Animatronic host society leech Bryan Caplan took a break from spreading the ass cheeks of his nation to report on GSS survey data indicating that monogamy remains the norm among Americans.
The problem with sex surveys of this sort — i.e., the kind that ask in no uncertain terms just how slutty (women) or charming (men) you are — is that people lie. They lie to assuage their egos, and they lie to meet social expectations. And lo and behold, there are attenuating studies which discredit to some extent the reported results of sex surveys. This one, for instance, found that:
Men report more permissive sexual attitudes and behavior than do women. This experiment tested whether these differences might result from false accommodation to gender norms (distorted reporting consistent with gender stereotypes). Participants completed questionnaires under three conditions. Sex differences in self‐reported sexual behavior were negligible in a bogus pipeline condition in which participants believed lying could be detected, moderate in an anonymous condition, and greatest in an exposure threat condition in which the experimenter could potentially view participants’ responses. This pattern was clearest for behaviors considered less acceptable for women than men (e.g., masturbation, exposure to hardcore & softcore erotica). Results suggest that some sex differences in self‐reported sexual behavior reflect responses influenced by normative expectations for men and women.
Men overstate their number of partners to a small degree, and women understate their number of partners to a large degree.
Two anti-Hivemind (or pro-Red Pill, if you wish) conclusions can be drawn from this very special insight about human nature:
1. On the subject of sex, women are bigger liars than men.
2. There are more slutty women running around in the world than sexually parched betaboys think.
I’d add that, despite the above GrateFacts, it’s a good bet that lower-N count monogamy is still hanging on as the norm among Eurasian peoples. Well, serial monogamy, at any rate.
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I don’t find it implausible that lifelong monogamy is modal. I am really dubious that there are a non-trivial number of slutty or semi-slutty women out there claiming to have only slept with one guy their whole life. They lie down, sure, but not that far down. Sleeping with under 5 guys is perfectly respectable these days. Furthermore, it isn’t terribly unusual for people to marry their high school or college sweetheart.
So, I would say that it is far from impossible to find marriage worthy women even in the contemporary West. You just have to be aware that they are not the majority, and take appropriate precautions.
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1. You need to know where to find these girls. More likely in church than in the club.
2. You need the appropriate game for these girls, which is not the same as what you need for slutty or semi-slutty girls.
3. You’ll need to deal with rejection by a lot of these girls on the grounds that you aren’t compatible long term, even if attraction is there.
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> “2. You need the appropriate game for these girls, which is not the same as what you need for slutty or semi-slutty girls.” Learn high-brow polite society naughty talk. You can use very roughly the same principles as with xHamster sluts, but just no obscenities – you need to think of clever phraseology which is very dry and clinical but which gets across the same message. E.g. “Them jeans make your booty look fat” becomes “Uhh, do they still make girdles?”
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Slightly off topic but very related.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1446886/
Only 29% of actual abortions were self-reported by the women in the sample. This finding varied dramatically by race, with substantially higher rates of underreporting by Blacks than by Whites or Hispanics.
Scienz be raciss.
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everything beez rayciss. Nature especially.
Women fuck a dude on vacation and it “doesn’t count.” Or it doesn’t count if they regretted it later and therefore was rape.
What a fuckin sick joke this society has become, all out war on truth. Lysenko would be proud.
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In the science of slutology context is king.
http://xa.yimg.com/kq/groups/22882378/2020169789/name/Preguntas%20sensitivas.%20Su%20impacto%20en%20el%20cuestionrio..pdf
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Only 29%? Odd that… my impression was that admitting to an abortion these days was de rigueur for go grrrrrl cred.
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A woman I really liked and held in high regard as a friend – brilliant, witty (I know…unusual) and attractive – told me over a glass of wine at a cocktail party that her most important political cause was ensuring it was easy to get an abortion, including late term, because that’s so important to women.
Have you ever felt your insides actually drop? I was stunned, and evidently the blood draining from my face didn’t slow her down, she started telling me about her fundraising and protest activities, and some shit about a call center. That she would have a stupid, destructive (and if you see who gets abortions, intentionally racist in the worst sense) practice at the core of her belief system staggered me. I had thought she was a decent person.
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I still find it hard to accept that the biggest non-negotiable of the Democratic party is right to an abortion. It can’t be merely about “women’s right to choose.”
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Has there ever been a policy more uselessly destructive and vile as abortion? It encourages bad behaviour and the poor women it is supposed to help escape poverty almost always end up with a brood of kids by bad boys anyway.
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“almost always end up with a brood of kids by bad boys anyway.”
That as I recall is also Sailer’s argument, that legal abortion has the effect of creating more lower-class pregnancies. The opposite argument is that without abortion, there’d be something like fifty million more underclass people around today. Either way, it’s a sordid affair.
To take your question as non-rhetorical, there are way worse policies with similar effects in place, many actively promoted by “Christian” leaders: welfare to single mothers and immigration.
[CH: i’ve read both leavitt’s and sailer’s arguments and data re: abortion as dys/eugenic X factor, and I still don’t know which direction it pulls. i suspect it’s mildly eugenic in the middle, and dysgenic among the very low and very high classes.]
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40% of abortions are blacks.
Which makes it odd that Democrats value it so much, given that by all accounts, most abortions are of babies who would be Democrat voters.
Aborted babies would be about 80% Democrat if they were allowed to live…
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“Which makes it odd that Democrats value it so much”
Hence my question upthread.
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Have you ever felt your insides actually drop?
Yes… in the context of an abortion discussion.
Even after years of reading about the female psyche I have tried and can’t understand why abortion is SO VISCERALLY IMPORTANT to these women. I can understand being mildly or generally in favour – but so viscerally fanatical? It’s like peering into another dimension where our laws of physics don’t operate.
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Their visceral reaction is their internalization of the general to the specific, or the solipsistic process of imagining themselves getting “trapped” with a pregnancy. It usually results from an inability to submit to their feminine nature and their own biology. Hence why they support abortion for others, not necessarily themselves.
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A woman I really liked and held in high regard as a friend – brilliant, witty (I know…unusual) and attractive – told me over a glass of wine at a cocktail party that her most important political cause was ensuring it was easy to get an abortion, including late term, because that’s so important to women.
It’s a shit test, not a deeply-felt conviction. Women don’t have deeply-felt convictions.
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In my experience, the one thing all women, and even the sweet ones, viscerally abhor is the thought of a man (other than their dream alpha) telling them what to do.
They respect State “authority” not one bit, when it doesn’t side with them.
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@Joe I’ve had similar run ins with women. I suspect that if someone was to come along and start a family with her and let her be a stay at home mom most of the time she would change her ways provided she was young(under 24) and not a byproduct of a liberal family and didn’t attend a woman’s study program at a major university and didn’t have a tripe digit notch count. These women are being sold a false ideology that does not comport with human nature. Don’t argue with them or try to change their minds just keep them pregnant. Nature will change their minds for you.
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“Their visceral reaction is their internalization of the general to the specific, or the solipsistic process of imagining themselves getting “trapped” with a pregnancy.”
This.
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What I find strange is that the pro-abortion stance makes it sound like pregnancy is something like a disease, contracted through no fault of her own. They make it sound like they just woke up one morning, pregnant, and it’s the ultimate act of patriarchy to force them to keep the pregnancy. Like they had no responsibility.
Every abortion I have personal knowledge of was the result of recklessness on the woman’s part. Birth control doesn’t fail; the reported failures are entirely a coverup of irresponsibility on the woman’s part. The only exception is a torn condom.
I get it that raw dogging is fun and you want the guy to blow his load inside, but it’s the worst moral cowardice to pretend you didn’t play a part.
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Girdles? What are you gaming 90 year old fat grammars?
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This evidence actually suggests that women and men are more alike in their sexual habits than you usually give credit for, thus making the expected stereotype just that. A stereotype.
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All stereotypes are based in truth. When you ask the crowd, you always get the correct answer. That’s the real crowd, real people, not the MSM-controlled hivemind that actively works every second to block and censor truth and promote lies, with the primary goal of promoting black-white mating and teaching our pretty white women to adopt black thug culture and/or wait until they are 35 to consider “settling down” to perhaps find a husband and make a baby.
https://meanderingstoic.wordpress.com/2014/01/07/
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I suspect you eat your own poopoo.
ROCK OVER LONDON,
ROCK ON, CHICAGO!
FOOLISHPRIDE: LIVES IN A DOUBLE WIDE
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Holy crap a Wesley Willis reference!!!!!
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I think the virtue here is continence, not celibacy.
Continence means you don’t fuck when you shouldn’t be fucking. Traditionally it applies to avoiding adultery, or perhaps avoiding fornication if in a relationship prior to marriage. I think today the meaning among the more promiscuous folks would be not slinging ass like a short order cook slings hash, and once you’re married, being exclusive. The actual religious among us would define it as celibacy until marriage. It really means being able to say “no” when you ought to, as defined by your moral standard (which you need to have as a precondition). Continence is always a virtue.
Celibacy, on the other hand, means not fucking. A lifelong celibate is continent, but not necessarily out of choice. It’s only sometimes a virtue.
Big difference.
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Hamster algebra.
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“thus making the expected stereotype just that. A stereotype.”
Go be a fool on somebody else’s dime.
Seriously, such studies drip with Cult Marx terminology.
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Oh, so this study is in fact bullshit and this didn’t deserve an post?
Next time address my argument or respond to someone else.
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Cultural marxist jargon is pretty much required in academia these days… the trick / challenge is to slip RealTalk in amongst it.
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Let’s call it what it really is in no uncertain terms to get through to the vast majority.
Most eyes glaze over when they hear the term ‘cultural marxists’
Call them ‘Cultural Communists’ to set off the internal visual lightbulbs and associations.
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@ foolish pride
“evidence actually suggests” is a dog whistle used by ugly feminists spinsters.
So, pride I suggest you need to get laid.
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CH, isn’t it interesting that women became more truthful in the situation where they believed that lies could be detected?
I never recommend people suspected of wrongdoing to take a polygraph. The reasons are many but the main one is that not even the police will accept it as proof of innocence. So why do a polygraph if it doesn’t help you?
There was one time I was talking shop with a police detective I know. He had this high profile case where a woman was accused of a heinous crime. Usually police bait a suspect into a polygraph. So I asked if he had offered the lady a chance to prove her innocence.
He just snorted and said she has a woman attorney. She won’t let her take one. And then he added, “besides they never pass the exam anyway even if they are innocent.”
We kid to each other about how much women lie. About Age, Notches, past boyfriends, etc
But what we don’t consider is how innately female this deception is. Perhaps women are just naturally more deceptive than men.
Perhaps College Sororities are actually Spy Schools for the suburbs.
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first off, never listen to a cop. They are full of shit, don’t know the law, and are liars.
Never speak to the police, period. Unless you called them. The rules of evidence are peculiar; only an attorney would know this. Hearsay rules PROHIBIT exculpatory statements made by you from being admitted in court. ONLY the things you say which are incriminating CAN be admitted as evidence. You might be able to admit hearsay to impeach substantive testimony by an officer as far as what you did and did not say, but a non-statement against interest is generally inadmissible.
“Prove her innocence”?!? What the fuck country do YOU live in, boy? You aren’t obligated to prove your fucking innocence and you should never try. GFD.
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This.
Hopefully well-known to many here, but a vid that cannot be promoted widely enough – Don’t Talk to Police:
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“But what we don’t consider is how innately female this deception is. Perhaps women are just naturally more deceptive than men.”
It starts with concealed ovulation. Only mammal species i believe that this is true of.
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Of course Earl might say female deception started here:
“The serpent was more clever than any of the wild animals the Lord God had made. The serpent said to the woman, “Did God really say, ‘You must not eat fruit from any tree in the garden’?”
2 The woman said to the serpent, “We may eat fruit from the trees in the garden. 3 But God did say, ‘You must not eat the fruit from the tree in the middle of the garden. Do not even touch it. If you do, you will die.’ ”
4 “You will certainly not die,” the serpent said to the woman. 5 “God knows that when you eat fruit from that tree, you will know things you have never known before. Like God, you will be able to tell the difference between good and evil.”
6 The woman saw that the tree’s fruit was good to eat and pleasing to look at. She also saw that it would make a person wise. So she took some of the fruit and ate it. She also gave some to her husband, who was with her. And he ate it.”
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They are crafting legislation based on these hoakey surveys, as described in “Pentagon Sex Report Fuels Media Rape Fantasies”.
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I like to say that it is not strong minds, but weak stomachs that abolish bad ideologies. Below is a translated poem of Zbigniew Herbert (1924 – 1998), called “A Matter of Taste” (orig: “Potęga Smaku”) on that very subject. He explains that anti-communist dissidents like himself were not so much men of character, as men who were disgusted with what they saw.
The translated poem:
It didn’t require great character at all
our refusal disagreement and resistance
we had the necessary shred of courage
but fundamentally it was a matter of taste
Yes taste
In which there are fibers of soul, the cartilage of conscience
Who knows
If we had been better and more attractively tempted
Sent rose-skinned women thin as a wafer
Or fantastic creatures from the paintings of Hieronymus Bosch
But what kind of hell was there instead
A wet pit the murderers’ alley the barrack
Called Palace of Justice
A home-brewed Mephisto in a Lenin jacket
Sent Aurora’s grandchildren out into the field
Boys with potato faces
Very ugly girls with red hands
Verily, their rhetoric was made of cheap sacking
(Marcus Tullius kept turning in his grave)
Chains of tautologies a couple of concepts like flails
The dialectics of butchers no distinctions in reasoning
Syntax deprived of beauty of the subjunctive
So aesthetics can be helpful in life
One should not neglect the study of beauty
Before we declare our consent we must carefully examine
The shape of the architecture the rhythm of the drums and pipes
Official colors the despicable ritual of funerals
Our eyes and ears refused obedience
The princes of our senses proudly chose exile
It did not require great character at all
We had a shred of necessary courage
But fundamentally it was a matter of taste
Yes taste
That commands us to get out to make a wry face draw out a sneer
Even if for this the precious capital of the body the head
Must fall
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A lot about the present problems can be better understood by reading the following works from an analogous era:
Alexander Solzhenitsyn “The Gulag Archipelago”
Czeslaw Milosz “The Captive Mind”
Zbigniew Herbert, poems
Arthur Koestler “Darkness at Noon”
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Another work by Solzhenitsyn that may be apropos to the problems of our times is “Two Hundred Years Together”.
Unfortunately, it looks like it won’t be published in English anytime soon.
Why that is I don’t know, it’s a mystery to me, it boggles my mind, I can’t for the life of me understand why, etc, etc. etc. Lols.
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That book by Solzhenitsyn transformed him from hero to unpublished zero overnight simply because it said a few naughty things about YKW. As Voltaire (or more correctly his biographer) said ‘to understand who rules over you just ask who cannot be criticised’
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My appreciation for the Herbert poem was just fortified by a visit to the Kakistocracy blog (CH blogroll)
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@Ang Aamer I recall a study that put the women under social pressure to tell the truth, and their average jumped by something like 25%.
I would love to see an analysis of the lie factors on reported numbers of sex partners, by gender.
I bet that the females that report modest numbers of partners, such as in the single digits, don’t lie.
I think the lie factors come in with double digit counts. In other words, the tail of the distribution smears way out to the right, but doesn’t take that many from the 0-10 pool. The propensity to lie increases with notch count, but dissipates into wild inaccuracy at notch counts in the high double digits.
This is just my hunch and based on my personal experience:
I had one girlfriend who honestly couldn’t remember how many it had been. One day after that she proudly showed me a list of something like 35. I pressured her a little bit more and pretty quickly that count slid up to about 70. One time in a drunken confessional state she said she thought it was more than a hundred. One affair she swore was purely non physical, then one day she let slip that they had sex once. I don’t really know what to believe, but it was fascinating anyway.
It doesn’t surprise me at all. When a girl gets into a mode in which getting drunk and having casual sex is no big deal, the notches accumulate fast. A couple of one night stands a month, a flurry of them each time she gets dumped, a few trains … a hundred just isn’t that big of a number.
What’s more, her ability to dedicate herself to a relationship gets eroded each time she whored out for anything – attention, drinks, money – and so each boyfriend lasted a shorter time, leading to ever more casual sex to ease the pain. It’s a downward spiral.
And this is a girl that is desperately trying to pretend to be pure now. It’s sad and absurd.
It’s easy to resent the fact that she was having a wild time while I was working my ass off in college, but then again, I wouldn’t trade places with her for anything in the world.
So, yeah, one of the great fictions is female notch count. CH is right on with this one. What’s interesting is the biological drivers to lie don’t go away, even though feminism may glorify slutdom.
SMH
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@Shortest_Straw
I have witnessed the exact same type of lies from an ex girlfriend that I catch up with (fuck shit out of) every once and awhile. I’ve seen her whole ride on the carousel at arms length. She trusts me so she speaks openly and my memory of her lies are better than hers.
She does the:
I NEVER slept wit that “friend” and eventually that turns intop “oh yah I did, but it was an accident”.
The I’m so pure now, once you hit 100 cocks the count resets, so I am at 2 and I don’t do anal anymore.
I agree with you on all points and note that the similarity between long term carousel riders is striking.
The one I know FREAKED on me when she was kind of drunk and I told her blowjobs weren’t that good / she couldn’t make me cum….. That’s when she told me “what I am good at” she says in explanation…
Silly girl.
AWALT.
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Yeah, it’s eye opening. The other thing I noticed is that sluts tend to be prudish. Not sexually adventurous, except when drunk. Clumsy. awkward, Inhibited. They can be aggressive and wild, but it’s uncomfortable to be around: It’s like they are trying to prove something, or they are acting out a role.
I don’t know whether it’s because they lacked confidence in the first place, and covered up their insecurity with sex appeal, or it’s because they never had the long term relationships that are conducive to sexual exploration.
Or maybe they turned to promiscuity precisely because it provided an outlet for their sexual anxiety.
The two wicked sluts I knew were BPD. High correlation, in my experience and from reports.
I’ve had a bunch of different long term relationships, and I have to say the sluts are the most stimulating. Definitely no one you want to build anything serious with, but they sure do keep you on your toes.
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I’m starting to understand why women have a rep for being bad at math. They don’t want to know what 2+26 equals…
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A hundred IS that big of a number. That’s a serious outlier.
Still, from the survey data that I’ve seen, the categories go like, 0-1, 2-5, 5-10, 10-15, 15-20, and 20+. I think it’s assumed that once a woman has hit twenty cocks, she’s basically numb to serious lifelong pair-bonding. Correct me if I’m wrong.
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100 is a HUGE number for a woman.
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I had a crush on a girl in college (I was stupid) that was at 20 (that she told me of) by the time she was 21. She’s now married with a child.
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In her post-rationalising, hamster driven little mind, the vast majority of guys she banged didn’t “count” because there was minimal emotional investment and no emotional attachment.
It affects the hamster in other ways though.
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Interesting question on N-count, CH: do you draw a value distinction (independent of age difference) between a 25 year old woman who rode the carousel and fucked 10 different men casually from ages 18-20, then met her husband and a 30 year old woman who had 10 relationships from 18-29 at an average of 10 years each and then met her husband? N counts are identical, but coefficient of sluttiness “S” certainly seems higher in woman #1.
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Edit: average of year each not 10. Typo
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It’s not just sex partners. To put it in prosaic terms: Every time a woman sells her sexuality – even advertising it for attention – her soul is diminished. It’s a long continuum from being a sexualized attention seeker to being a full-fledged whore. The flirty tease girls in junior high school were already learning to be whores. It doesn’t matter much whether they ever even kissed a guy; they were selling their sexuality. It hollows them out inside.
Put it a little more technically: Pair bonding requires a much more sophisticated set of behaviors. More evolutionarily advanced, if you will.
Whores lose their wife-nature. The wife-nature atrophies while the whore-nature is developed.
Sadly, the whore-nature is addictive. She basically can’t ever shed it once it sets in, especially if it sets in young. Spend some time around reformed sluts and you will learn the tells. Subtle things about movements, facial expressions … sluts gotta slut.
It’s not scientific, but: Whores have no soul. So your 10-guys-in-one-year girl will have an erosion to her soul that the ten-guys-in-ten-years girl doesn’t. The former will forever itch to get back to the easy thrills and validation of sexual attention.
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Are we watching CH’s hamster wheel spin? Most people are having less sex in general. The girls that want to ride the CC can, but most aren’t because women evolved to be selective in choosing their mates. More young people are also living with their parents than before, which is also reducing slutty behavior.
Yeah. there’s alot of hypocritical aspects to feminism, but ignoring inconvenient data and responding with emotionally driven arguments is just being a bitch.
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“The girls that want to ride the CC can, but most aren’t because women evolved to be selective in choosing their mates. ”
You can be selective AND promiscuous. Selective just means that you will utterly disregard 60% of the male population for a ONS. Or maybe even 75%. Sluts are some of the most selective women there are. Only Chad Thundercock will do for them.
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You don’t get it.
1. Those “losers” get laid more and better than many “winners”.
2. Of course sluts end up with “losers”. Winners don’t want sluts in the first place.
What I’m saying is that sluts have little patience for inexperienced betas. Those with ridiculous notch counts will be even less likely than a “good girl” to bang a nerd.
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Absolutely they are selective. Sluts are highly sexually competitive. Their self esteem comes from (their words, not mine!):
– leaving the bar with the hottest guy in the room
– being the chosen one
– getting the better boyfriend than others
– having less desirable friends, so guys that come into their social circle through the friend end up with the slut
– keeping a mental tally of the quality of dates they were taken on
which ends up in
– getting paid for sex on camera (and even then, being competitive about the quality of the guy they have sex with)
– getting paid for sex with strangers (and even then, being competitive about the qualities of their tricks)
One of the mysterious ways pimps control whores is by taking money from them. The whore is validated by handing her money to the pimp. It’s proof of her worth.
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“You can be selective AND promiscuous. Selective just means that you will utterly disregard 60% of the male population for a ONS. Or maybe even 75%. Sluts are some of the most selective women there are. Only Chad Thundercock will do for them.”
It depends on the type of “slut”. I think there are two kinds: the girl who sleeps with a lot of guys for affection (hoping it will lead to something) and the girl who has sex like a man… seeking variety, having little emotional involvement, etc. Those are the two types I’ve seen.
Girl 1 is less selective than Girl 2.
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“It depends on the type of “slut””
😆 Scare quotes? Really?
“I think there are two kinds: the girl who sleeps with a lot of guys for affection (hoping it will lead to something) and the girl who has sex like a man… seeking variety, having little emotional involvement, etc. Those are the two types I’ve seen.
Girl 1 is less selective than Girl 2.”
Idiot vs nympho?
Bottomline: women who fuck many men aren’t necessarily indiscriminate. Those who are, have a different name. We call them fat chicks.
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Men overstate their number of partners to a small degree
Probably because some of us fucking lose count.
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Any man fucking THAT much is a candidate for disease and perdition.
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You forgot to mention, I’m a virgin and play video games all day in my dirty t-shirt, right?
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Nowicki is a creep.
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A whore sleeps with a lot of men.
A manwhore sleeps with a lot of ugly women.
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Unless that manwhore is a fashion photographer.
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When I was 16-17, we had a survey about teen sex life in school conducted by some psychologists. It was anonymous, but we all sat down as we usually sit, being able to see each others papers – and we were filling out forms about how many girls we touched, kissed, fucked etc. It basically it took a second or two of looking aside to know everything about everybody… Guess how honest we all were. And guess how much “science” like this gets questioned.
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Men and women are exactly the same. Sex drive and the desire to engage in war are expressed differently. Thats all. Women are deceitful right down to their ovaries. Even they dont know when they’re turned on, their deceit runs so deep.
Life is war. There is no resting. Every woman is a pig. Accept it and move on. Fuck them all and knock them up and if you have a daughter, forget about her. They dont matter. Let the cunt deal with her. If you have a son and you care, take him from her when hes old enough to run and swing a stick reliably.
Destroy everyone and everything. Show no mercy. The only thing you should pass to your fellow man is knowledge, which most are too pathetic to accept.
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i love boobs.
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Here since it is Friday. And for that guy that likes Anne Hathaway so much…
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Half of all surverys are 70% false, and 83.2% of all statistics are made up on the spot.
Science rape! I’m back, baby!
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“2. There are more slutty women running around in the world than -most guys including a shitload of red pill half-swallowers who parrot red pill rules but refuse to give up their desperate fingertip grasp on the idea of their unicorn out there because it would cause them too many sads to give up and try to process and deal with reality.”
FTFY, CH.
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The few who aren’t just haven’t met me yet
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Glad you’re back man! Pulled a girl last weekend, no bang tho. Pulled her with her friend, went to this guys apt (guy got the other girl) cuz my place was so far away (my plan is to move near the heart of the city, I’ve had shitty logistics long enough).
We were both naked and STILL lol just ended up fooling around and touching a lot.
Probably needed more comfort, we’d only known each other for an hour and she was sober.
Lame, but it’s all good. I’m pretty sure she wanted to bang in the morning, but after spending all night drinking and talking and then failing to get the bang, didn’t really feel like trying. I’ll try harder next time.
Gonna be a great weekend
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How do you get naked with a girl and not fuck her? Holy shit
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@yareally is it a bad idea to get into an LTR before you can even support kids/have your career underway? Honest question b/c I’m going to grad school and don’t want to fuck anything up
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@ch pass this please? Looking for ya the great’s thoughts
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Haha @ch, talking about the first comment I had above…
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Ch you suck. But I love you
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chill out Will, you won’t actually die from oneitis.
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Haha this is great.
Yeah I just can’t wrap my head around how to get a *high smv* girl to chase you for the long haul. dont quite get it. I guess it just happens tho when your on yor ‘mission’ and you don’t realize it? Thanks yall
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Your gf is gonna suck every cock but yours
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the reality for a player (those that deal with the observable and objective reality of mating dynamics) is that any girl can be turned out given the right incentives.
women aren’t people, and to be a healthy modern man you must consider your interactions as a type of sophisticated husbandry.
to the bitter classicists, as Ya says above, let it go. the pain WILL stop for you.
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YaReally, Sentient, Walawala, Having a Bad Day and others
I’ve been reading this book (someone posted the link in the comments here recently):
http://www.my-secret-life.com/
It’s basically an anonymous memoir of a Victorian gentleman’s sexual exploits (from childhood onwards) in 19th century London. It is supposed to be a true account and I’m still stuck with him at 19.
The social and legal environment was completely different but sex still worked according to Game principles (social proof, isolation, non-judgmental, discretion, women resisting and then submitting etc) – it’s worth a review by itself – fascinating stuff, but one v puzzling point.
Walter’s (the protagonist) standard MO as a teenager is to basically pursue and sexually assault his family’s various household maids until they give in. Other than being caught by his mother he doesn’t really give a shit.
Of course 80% of what he does would basically be sexual assault and rape today (and not the FRA kind).
But what really interests me is that not only can he basically get away with sexual assault (restraining women, forcibly pulling women to the bed, shoving his hand inside them, forcibly kissing them, penetrating them over protests etc) but most of the time once he gets to a certain point, they give in and start enjoying themselves and have orgasms etc (sometimes it takes several attempts – aka assaults – over weeks with the resistance getting feebler each time).
He never actually does an actual violent rape even when he’s basically fighting the woman – if a woman is really serious about it, she can push him off and get away, and it happens fairly often (esp in the early stages of the “seduction”). A few maids get really upset, push him away, resign their jobs etc. But the majority – however much they complain or cry or whatever they say – actually stick around and over time their resistance weakens and they give in. And at this stage, Walter’s only a teenager – he’s not even that experienced. Just horny and persistent.
Of course, he’s the Master’s son, and very high value to these women etc, plus they couldn’t exactly complain to to police in those days. But the point being that the boundary for persistence and aggression which ultimately leads to success is WAY, WAY beyond what you might think (even if it isn’t possible in today’s legal/social scenario).
Do you guys see what I mean? I’m not sure I’m articulating this correctly – basicallyI find it really surprising that you can basically sexually assault a woman against her will and then once you have your cock out or inside her, then she will literally stop shouting and pushing you away and start enjoying it. Some of them even say he’s too young or not man enough etc but once they get going their perception of him changes.
What’s the deal with that?
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The “deal with that” is that this was erotica…
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The general consensus appears to be that it’s a real guy’s exploits and even if it is not, that it’s a pretty accurate record of sexual attitudes in Victorian England. My question was about the general approach to seduction, not any particular incident
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“Dear Penthouse Forum,
I never believed it could happen to me…”
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The deal with it is that women have responsive desire, they become aroused by male physical attention. This is what let women survive when they were captured by other tribes/conquerors and “made” wives. This is why they bond to a guy after sex. also why they respond so well to male dominance.
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pro comment.
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Right. Even if he’d raped them at the outset, if he continued to have sex with them, the story probably would’ve been the same. It’s uncomfortable to think about but I believe it.
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@Amy believes it and is up for it…
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All truths are uncomfortable so much that human very capacity of survival is based upon transforming, rationalizing, softening them
Land of truth is a cold, lonely and austere place like that old protestant church in Amsterdam
It is an equivalent of an a homely girl offering you to spend rest of your lives naked together
You shiver with cold
The only thing you think about is to run to Paris and lock yourself in Louvre
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@Sentient – very pithy and point taken. I’ve heard some of this stuff before but even after taking the red pill and have a pretty decent amount of experience with women – it’s hard to internalize going this far.
I haven’t tried any rough sex yet (beyond some ass spanking lightly) but I want to “work on it” in 2015.
YaReally’s guide would be great but I suspect he’s hesitant about posting it cos if people follow it blindly without calibration, they’ll be looking at being handcuffed by police as opposed to handcuffing a HB9..
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Culum
Next time you are having [sperg warning] *consensual* sex, try some light dominance moves. Grab her hair at base of skull and give a firm pressure pull on it, not a yank. Pin her arms over her head. Put your hand on her throat and give light pressure, put your fingers in her mouth.. etc. Hoist her over your shoulder and throw her down on the bed… even these mild dominance displays can really ramp things up.
Yareally has flirted with giving his rough sex primer, maybe your post will tempt it out of him..
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right. a guy doesn’t actually have to simulate rape to get a horny rise out of his girl. if she’s the typical nicegirl who hasn’t much experience with dominant men, a few small maneuvers in the sack like the ones you describe will send her into blissful oblivion.
otoh, a girl who requires a rape reenactment to feel anything has outed herself as totes cray cray.
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I figured everyone already did that. Arent 12 yr olds watching porn? Thats what barbra walters told me.
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I don’t think I would take much from a few sporadic accounts of things, honestly we will probably never know the truth, but mildly agreeing with what you wrote there are several cases I have seen where men wore down women until they eventually became their girlfriends and in two cases wives, that I know of personally. Maybe just refusing to accept some woman’s view that she is too good for you signals to them that they were wrong… maybe. At the same time it is a fine line, at what point do you become the creep? Once labeled the creep, I think you have to move on at that point.
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I have been reading this guy’s work. Chapter 3 was particularly touching, I feel ridiculous saying that. I am not reading this like erotic literature at all, it is like a journal to learn from, assuming it is real, and I am hoping it is. He really was quite brazen about what he did and these women seemed to just go along with it, and I don’t even think he was particularly high status. It is really making me think differently about women, about what they respond to.
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@martin – yeah I get the same feeling.
He’s not high status in the sense of being an aristocrat or anything, but he’s a “gentleman” with an income in the days when that phrase meant something with a budding career as an army officer and these women generally worked in his mother’s mansion..just relative status.
It’s like a *million* words long though and I am losing steam around Vol 2..
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‘There are more slutty women running around in the world than sexually parched betaboys think.’
Well if you take out the tatted, obese, serially drunk, short haired, feminist loving, debt producing, and attention seeking women…what other demographic of women are hiding the fact they are promiscuous?
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I personally knew a chick that looked like a nice, LTR type girl and was a nympho all along. Just saiyan.
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Nymphos can’t cover that up…either she was actually a nice LTR girl, or she had a hundred red flag tells that weren’t noticed by guys.
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I think I saw that Movie Of The Week too… it was back in the eighties, and starred Annette O’Toole, if memory serves.
/heh, heh… O’Toole… heh, heh
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“Nymphos can’t cover that up…either she was actually a nice LTR girl, or she had a hundred red flag tells that weren’t noticed by guys.”
She was a nympho, but I didn’t know her well enough to know it, even though she was a classmate. Didn’t bother taking a good look at her private life and from outside she seemed wholesome.
I had no idea…
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Thing is, she wasn’t even trying to hide it. Quite a libertine. However, she had absolutely 0 of these indicators. Well, maybe except attention seeking and that only appeared later on.
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‘Didn’t bother taking a good look at her private life and from outside she seemed wholesome.’
Wholesome as a lifestyle is good…wholesome as an appearance can be refuted with some digging.
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hardcore Christians usually
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Nah, they can’t hide it either. They’ll either get pregnant or someone will blab.
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These r selected things are not like us.
http://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/nation/2015/01/22/new-hampshire-twins-home-alone/22202579/
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What the fuck are Nigerians doing in New Hampsire?
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I don’t know, but I was *just* talking about Nigerians last night with a date. There are 171 million people in Nigeria. Half as many as the US … in a land area about 1/10 the size.
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timely comment: http://www.koanicsoul.com/blog/a-critique-of-anonymous-conservatives-rk-selection-theory/
they are r selected — breed like rabbits then don’t care for their children.
not like us.
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They’re there to bring New Hampshire’s standardized test results more in line with the national average.
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New Hampshire Nigerians? I hate New Hampshire Nigerians.
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If you ask a woman her “number”, the typical woman will divide by 3.
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And still get it wrong…
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Who does that? My approach is don’t ask, don’t tell.
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Private Detective to Pvt. Pillow Biter … Eventually she’ll broach the topic – just before that scorching burn when you pee.
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Its not until you truly get over the ‘Madonna Whore’ complex that you start to realise that every woman has the potential to be a slut, provided you sing the right bird song to bring it out of her.
Don’t be fooled by the nice wholesome girl you see sipping a coffee in the corner of a coffee shop. They all want and crave wild sex.
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you’re right, but when it comes to relationships and family there is ample evidence you should avoid those that have already achieved their slut potential
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That’s the usual huge, huge mistake. Most women do want badly lots of wild sex but only with ATTRACTIVE men, that is only with uncaring asshole players.
They are utterly revolted by any attention from unattractive men.
For most women sexuality is something that depends completely on “chemistry” (also called “consent” by them), that is “gina tingle”.
Thinking that women have a single attitude to “sex” is a very big mistake; it is projection of a man’s point of view. For women sex with or without “chemistry” is a completely different thing.
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When I was 24, I had a female roommate who was 28, and she brought a friend over who was 34. The two of them were very pretty, easily 8’s. The 34 year old had an especially nice body (yes I saw her naked), never would have guessed her age. They both had bfs and a huge stable of beta orbiters, many of whom would actively compete to take them out, buy them dinner, etc. This was in the mid-2000’s.
We all got drunk and smoked pot. At one point the convo turned to our collective sexual N counts. To say I felt humbled is an understatement; both women admitted to sleeping with *at least* 60 guys. Then the 34 year old started bragging about her BJ skills and saying she could prove it. Yeah, getting involved with her was a bad idea, but I was blue pill back then.
Anyway, pretty much every guy I know has slept with 10 women or fewer, while most women I know feel if they have slept with only 20 or so guys, they are still “practically a virgin.”
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Funny, but I’ve never heard a man be as specific about his N-count as women are. Even the musician and athlete alphas I know, when asked, have been vague. I think we’re all secretly embarrassed.
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Most, if not all men are secretly embarrassed at the levels to which they have had to stoop at some point or another to fuck a low value woman (e.g. fatty/chubby HB3-4’s), particularly when at some point they have fucked a HB 7.5 – 9.
Hell, I know I am.
LOLZ
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“Most, if not all men are secretly embarrassed at the levels to which they have had to stoop at some point or another to fuck a low value woman (e.g. fatty/chubby HB3-4’s),”
😦
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yep
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Yep, and even putting aside outlying cases (solid 9s who are true stop-traffic-quality hotties and unabashedly riding the cock carousel from age 18-35), talking about high 6s and 7s who are “nice girls” by today’s standards, perhaps even mousy or a bit introverted, and who jump from LTR to LTR like greater beta men, check this out: it’s still twice as easy for the nerdy 6 girl than it is for a beta, so their number is typically twice as high as the beta they settle with when she’s 35 to 37 and he’s 35 to 40.
In other words, take a typical Gen X greater beta who lucked his way into some LTRs the past 15 years. He might have a notch count between 10 and 15. He might even have a few one night stands (or short term flings that he ended) under is belt, but for the most part, his other 8 or 12 were LTRs in which he got dumped for being too beta or not fitting in in this world. He was looking for a wife and family formation between ages 25 and 29. In between his 8 or 10 girls he’s had sex with, he endured looooong dry spouts of between 8 and 24 months. So our prototypical beta has a notch count of, let’s say, 13, at age 37 when he’s on match.com. That’s a pretty respectable number; as someone stated, many guys have a number less than 10.
Now let’s turn to our “beta female” who gets to “settle down” with and marry the beta described in the preceding paragraph. She’s a high 6, perhaps even a 7, perhaps close to an 8 (by beta standards) when she was 25. She has a good body but slightly plain face, might be pretty smart, reads books, a nerdy girl with a good body. Dresses moderately; she is NOT a slutty party girl (good for her). She really did want to find The One when she was in her 20s, but she too was a victim of today’s mating market brought on by what TPTB has been doing the last 40 years and especially the last 20 years. Okay, dudes, this nerdy beta woman of Gen X (who turns 40 this year), when she was 35 and really realized that the office working life sucks and wants to check out and get married (she wanted that when she was 27 but didn’t really want it enough–Madonna told her “don’t go for second best, baby, you’re too much better, baby, on your own!!!!, so she would not “settle” for any of the dozens of betas who awkwardly hit on her between age 21 and 32 who would have made great husbands and fathers), even this nerdy 7’s number will be between 22 and 35 — twice the number of her equivalent beta man. She will have no appreciation for this problem. She is the type of woman who does enjoy sex with her man, kind of understands men, but does not really understand (how could she?) the male experience in this world. Now why is our beta Gen X woman’s number 25 while her male equivalent’s is 12?
Because even though both pursued LTR strategy, going from one LTR to the next, the girl never had to endure any significant dry spell. No gap. Each time she ended an LTR (or perhaps she got dumped half the time because she had landed an alpha who did the dumping–she’s arguably an 8, after all, when she was 27), she had no trouble having a boyfriend within a month after. While her “equivalent” beta man endured an 8 to 24 month dry spell.
Finally, many, many more of our beta female’s (a Gen X member) LTRs involved playing house, living together outside of marriage for 8 to 28 months. During this time, much of the time was “good times” involving lots of sex. So not only did our beta female have twice as many partners, she probably had 5 to 10 times as much total sex.
In summary, our two beta members of Gen X between age 19 and 35:
Man: 5,840 days; 12 sex partners; had sex 240 total times.
Woman: 5,840 days; 25 sex partners; had sex 2,250 total times.
These are real numbers, folks. That’s keeping our beta female on the low end, giving her 90 sex acts per partner. (That’s basically saying she averaged a 3-month relationship with each guy, with sex once a day (average) for the 3 month honeymoon period.) Our average equivalent man simply did not get to enjoy nearly as much total sex.
This is a reality that women simply are not capable of understanding, but if you try to educate them, they will stomp their feet and go ballistic with indignation.
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The proof of Hamster Algebra.
Masterful comment. Applause.
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meh – if she was married that whole time and had sex 3x a week she would be bumping 2k. So her husband dies say, her N is 1 and her odometer is still 2000. You meet her on Match now. Is it much different?
The real lesson is avoid marrying older women. Young will have less mileage all around. There is no reason why a 35 YO guy should seek out a same age woman for child and family. No reason.
You think you are going to be having all these deep conversations about your shared experiences and cultural references AFTER you have kids running around? You think she is going to keep up on things that interest you? You sure as fuck aren’t going to keep up on things that interest her. 75% of your conversations are going to be about logistics, kids and the “business” of a marriage. So don’t worry about having not much in common with a younger girl. You will always have the kids to talk about.
You go hang with your guy friends and talk with them.
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AWALT ..
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/teacher-says-students-in-alleged-sex-abuse-should-have-kept-stupid-mouths-shut/ar-AA8uFPs
Teacher says students in alleged sex abuse should have kept ‘stupid mouths shut’
So .. two WIMMINZ teachers .. teachers get some young men .. who don’t / won’t say no to a slut .. like men the teachers age .. so much for being a slut doesn’t matter .. sorry I digress .. so much so that they hope to conceal their “their good-time”.
The boys parade around afterwards and tell everyone.
So men brag .. th wimminz conceal .. exactly what the study says.
And we know this because other WIMMINZ teachers poated supportive comments for those WIMMINZ teachers behavor. Either this teacher has done this or she is resentful that she didn’t (yet) or that her bubble was burst that men can’t / won’t keep their liason quiet.
Yes, we men slut shame. Who’s dumb enough to wife-up a slut (other than a thrusty beta)? You WIMMINZ (aka sluts) at some point aren’t even gonna have them available to you either. Or that’s my hope.
Seems it’s true though. The only moms pushing absetence is the reformed (lol) slut. She at least knows the damage her sluttiness has caused.
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How pathetic are the men in the public school establishment that the most Alpha guys these teachers can pick up are students?
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We all know education has been transformed to be more female friendly.
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That’s my reaction every time one of these stories breaks.
Then again, let’s face it… alphas aren’t going to go into teaching at the public school level… ESPECIALLY this past generation.
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Well after further review .. the teacher complaining about the boys talking was a “him”.
I guess I read the name Kane and thought woman.
Whoops a daisy. My bad.
Disregard my previous post .. we had a WK (white knight) try to curry favor with two sluts in hopes of (never) getting some (of the school sluts).
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I watched an old British movie ” The Browning Version ” last night. In it’s understated British way, it perfectly echoed many of the Man-Truths our host strives to enlighten us with here..
Beta Husband…. Check
Hypergamous Wife…. Check
Alph interloper….. Check
Now that our mass-media has fully embraces this man-Hating cult, known as feminism, often the only examples of male wisdom on TV, are to be found in old movies.
A list of the best of these old movies could be a very effective and gentler way of introducing blue pill Boys/Men, to some real Red Pill wisdom.
Has anyone got an example of an old movie that would make the…. Great-Movies-For-Men, list?
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The Fountainhead (Gary Cooper and a curiously scrumptious Patricia Neal), before all others.
Almost anything with Bogey, but Maltese Falcon and The Big Sleep foremost.
The Postman Always Rings Twice
If watching these has soured one towards women’s nature too much, the antedote might be something like No Highway In The Sky.
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I would recommend the first season of Californication if not the entire series.
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Dude… he asked for old movies.
Kee-rist, what are they teaching in schools nowadays?
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don’t sperg out on me Greg
((((shakin’ mah haid)))
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You’re one of those guys who calls another man who cares enough to do a job correctly “anal”, ain’t cha, Beavis?
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Attention whoring techniques (100 likes on instagram or fb) make there sluttiness easier too.
If you have a high smv girl (fucking her moving in LTR direction), BUT you are moving soon (3-6 months). Would you have to cut her off, or how do you go about dealing with that? Thoughts
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Is this the same girl who is a Junior??? I hope not.
Options are a) Marry her now. Take her with you. or b) tell her you will always treasure the time you had together and to call you if she is ever in the area. And move on.
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@sentient I value your advice.
Yeah it’s the junior college girl. Marriage would be stupid because Im going to medical school next year (so I feel too young to cross that line–logical side of brain thinking) and she’s still so involved with immature things I believe (sorority stuff etc)
I’m grieving (if that’s the right thing to call it) from my post coital oneitis and its been like 7 months of silence so I’m trying to figure out if I should say something or not (as in would it make me feel better).
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Yes marrying would be absurd but often the best way to look at an issue is to extrapolate to the extremes.
The picture becomes clearer with medical school looming. My sense from your posts is you are a chronic validation seeker (references to good schools, good frats, now med school) and ego/status personality .
You need to believe that you validate you. Not where you went to school what color your shirt is, what title you have or how much you make or who is on your arm. All that is really beta thinking.
If I were you I would defer med school for a year if possible, move someplace new like a beach community, get your own place or some roommates and work as a bartender. You need a load of alpha making life experience with women men and The world at large.
This will better prepare you for med school and the post school world. I’ve known countless beta at heart doctors who get hitched to either the girl they meet in school or the first girl post getting their Dr. Title. It often ends poorly. They wake up 15 years in with a wife who doesn’t respect them and they are thinking fuck I am a doctor I get lots of interest from other girls what’s up? But they have no alpha and are just unhappy or wife divorces them and they start the cycle over. (Btw only docs I know that are much alpha are top surgeons and guys like derms who have 7 figure multi office money machines).
If you take some time and develop some alpha social and life experience standing on your own feet you will be much better prepared to deal with the rigor of med school, residency politics and the onslaught of looking to be ex carousel riders your beta provider doctor flag will aattract in droves.
So stop validation seeking and k rock off the messiness. Forget this girl. Go forth and prosper.
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Yeah I agree. I don’t think I’m so much a validation seeker, it’s more that I’m just trying to make things clear for you (and other readers) as in I’m not just some fatty on a couch–I have passion and I have a good social life etc.
I think it’s also important for me and others to realize when to not get emotionally involved with a girl and when it’s safe. I shouldn’t have gotten emotionally involved with this girl and it’s a little more clear when to not invest myself/emotions into things.
Also taking a year off isn’t possible I don’t think b/c I got accepted for upcoming year.
What do you mean when you talk about ‘alpha making life experiences’? Examples? My notch count is decent. I think if I did that I would realize that I’m just wasting time or something ya know?
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@will
You say “I don’t think I’m so much a validation seeker” and then “I’m not just some fatty on a couch”. Don’t you see the validation seeking in this thinking?
You perceive one group (non-fattie non couch sitters) as higher status and you want to feel and be known as being in that “higher status” group. You need to derive your status and self worth from YOU not in comparing you to others. That fattie couch sitter might be a talented artist, musician, programmer or investor. He may actually be very alpha and have great game. Will needs to be concerned with Will and not how others think of Will or Will thinks others think of him. This frame is the path to authenticity.
Back to the girl, you felt “emotion” because your inexperience spun a narrative around the chemical reactions you were feeling (dopamine, oxytocin) that fed your neediness and validation seeking. In some way you determined that this girl “completed” you because she made you feel good, either about yourself (a girl like THIS likes me etc.) or by reflecting in her glory/accomplishments (she is from a great family, she is so bright, pretty, such a good person etc.). The narrative is LURV…
Now this is common the first few times you run into it, but IF you DO go out, get some alpha life experience, get into relationships, live with a girl for 6 months, travel together etc. you will find out that these “emotions”, it is all just a cycle. If you are on the path to becoming dynamic, passionate and authentic you will become inured to them, in such a way that you can appreciate the good times but not get caught up in the bad times, move on. There is always another bus coming down the street.
As to alpha life experiences, its more than just notch count (actually notch count by itself is a form of validation seeking). In a nutshell its about facing a diverse set of challenges and obstacles and by dint of force, craft, guile and will overcoming and even triumphing. About self reliance and the frame that develops from that.
For a MC/UMC white college frat boy, that arena is going to be down market. You know how to make small talk a a cocktail party and handle yourself in a reception. You need to learn how to relate to the poor and the working class. And not just relate, but be able earn their respect and lead them.
You need to get through situations where the HR department might be a big guy named Doc or Earl and a negative performance review might mean you got knocked square on your ass that day. You might need to get 8 Mexicans to stop goofing off and bust their ass and get work done so you can all go home or outwit a foreman who is trying to make “college boy”‘s life miserable. To handle dealing with your landlord when you are two weeks late on the rent (no parental support) or a garage when your beater car needs work you can’t afford. How to handle women who are much more raw, rapacious and require harder game than the sorority flowers at the kegger. Who might fuck you and not mention their meth dealer boyfriend, who they will of course tell that you fucked her and deal with that drama. All the little adventures that life will throw at you, outside of the warm cocoon of a MC/UMC existence.
I’ve said before, good things come out of working a construction job, building something or in a factory or bartending and being amogged by a rough clientele. You will learn a lot more about you, what you are made of, what you are capable of and these things will pay huge dividends when you go back to a MC/UMC environment, and med school especially in my mind.
After a year or two of this kind of life, gaming all the way, falling in “lurv” or handling any woman won’t trouble you in the slightest.
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I follow you and agree with what your saying. But you gotta remember I’ve had this red pill wake up already (hence why I read ch etc), so I’m aware of what’s going on around me and the sexual market. Do you think deferring a year would be a waste of time? I feel like I should just push toward improving my life and completing this schooling. It’s not like I can’t game girls in school too. If my life goal is to be happy and find happiness, wouldn’t it be important to embark on ambitious missions like this (med school)? The sooner I do this the closer I will be to a career and the closer I will be to actually support myself and maybe even a family of that’s what the road entails.
I’ve been out of school for a little bit, and I’m tired of the monotony and loneliness. The weird thing is I’m not even that lonely I have tons of friends. Yes, true, I haven’t moved anywhere my whole life and that’s something that would do wonders for me. But i would move for med school. Also, I don’t know what I would do if I didnt go to school really–this was a huge accomplishment for me.
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Learn to spell “their.” Be a man.
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@Will – I don’t know much about medical school, but do know quite a lot about other professional grad schools. You can certainly ask for your admission to be deferred a year. Some places it’s automatic and some places will ask you to justify it..but in most cases you will be able to do it if you want to.
You are going to be studying for MANY years if you’re going to med school. No harm taking a break and sorting out your personal qualities. And having some fun.
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Red Pill awakening yet you have oneitis for this girl going on a year now right? I came across a post from May 2014 of yours today, with Yareally and others giving you advice and you are still basically asking the same questions – how can I get this girl back?
i think getting on a med school tread mill will not leave you with the firm foundation and self reliance you will benefit from the most. If I were you and I could defer without much in the way of consequences, I would defer and move and learn about myself. You got to do what is right for you though.
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Pictorial depiction of Beta Bed Death
http://www.bodylanguagesuccess.com/2013/12/nonverbal-communication-analysis-no_31.html
http://www.bodylanguagesuccess.com/2014/05/nonverbal-communication-analysis-no_23.html
http://www.bodylanguagesuccess.com/2014/05/nonverbal-communication-analysis-no_22.html
http://www.bodylanguagesuccess.com/2014/05/nonverbal-communication-analysis-no_21.html
Poor bastard.
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This guy actually dumped his famous GF for tweeting an embarrassing photo of him while sleeping with an open mouth.
That’s not exactly beta.
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Do you seriously think that tweet was the only time she was disrespecting him?
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Way off base here… Rory was banging a chick on a glass table and they both fell through it. The chick ended up with cuts and scrapes and Nike paid her off to stay quiet and advised Rory to call off the wedding to avoid another Tiger PR fiasco.
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@Bob
Oh, is that where that hack Erdely plagiarized her UVA rape hoax story from? Heh.
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“Do you seriously think that tweet was the only time she was disrespecting him?”
I dunno. Considering how hard she took it, when he broke off the engagement…I don’t think it was just about beta bucks IYKWIM.
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I will never understand why TradCons hate potsmokers so much, yet oppose prohibition.
I mean, more people die from alcohol than cannabis. It is more harmful. It can lead to physical addiction. Lowlifes sometimes smoke weed but low lifes also drink like fish.
I don’t get it.
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Related to PLEASUREMAN’S posting of Obama’s joint pic in the “Is Obama our most embarrassing president” thread.
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The rationale I’ve heard is that cannabis, not being water-soluble, accumulates in the brain and screws it up, while alcohol washes out.
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A pothead comes across as more ‘off’ than a chronic drinker.
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Anyone who has been around “potheads”, even for a short while, can tell the pernicious effects of that weed on the thought processes… man.
Think Jeff Lebowski meets Dumber & Dumber.
Not to mention the whole barbequed lungs idiocy.
And note to potheads: this derision does not constitute an endorsement of alcohol abuse… you fairies.
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“this derision does not constitute an endorsement of alcohol abuse… you fairies.”
That’s the thing though. Only alcohol ABUSE is bad. But with weed, moderate use or not, it is considered the mark of the loser.
A guy who gets caught with some weed, once can get sent to prison while a drunkard who finishes a bottle of liquor a day (clearly drinking to intoxication) every other day is left to destroy himself. Does society not care about the health of these individuals?
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Of course society decries individuals who use alcohol out of context… and there are laws a-plenty in re intoxication… public intoxication will get you fined and a night in jail, or tacked on as a charge to whatever else you were doing at the time… DUI will get you a $10K bill, suspended license for at least 3 months on a first offense, and a permanent record that will haunt you thereafter… will even prevent you from getting a license to carry.
Etc., etc., etc.
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Nah. It’s because Jesus first miracle was turning water to wine.
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A running joke I have with a friend is the pothead who can barely string a sentence together withouts saying “duudde…” or “maaaan…” but turns into Demosthenes when the subject of legalization of pot comes up.
But speaking of scriptural support, I did once have a pot smoker earnestly tell me that in the correct translation of Genesis it says that God game man dominion over the “beasts and weeds” which means that marijuana smoking is Biblically sanctioned.
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Pot isn’t biblically sanctioned, because it almost always leads to intoxication, at least the current, sativa type stuff.
But I think that anyone who drinks and ends up drunk is comparable according to Christianity. Only stuff like wine and beer, and liquor in small quantities for the heavyweights would be sanctioned. Besides, the ancients usually mixed wine with water anyway.
Bottomline, anyone who gets drunk is comparable to the stoner in the eyes of Jesus, in all likelihood. Those who know better are welcome to correct me.
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Proverbs 31 The Sayings Of King Lemuel
6 Let beer be for those who are perishing,
wine for those who are in anguish!
7 Let them drink and forget their poverty
and remember their misery no more.
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Lol.
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Tradcons vehemently oppose anything that has the potential to expand consciousness.
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TradconsRational minds will vehemently oppose anything that has the potential toexpandcloud consciousness.FIFY…
You hop-headed fairy.
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It is because of the hippy problem. I think a tradcon is an american, southern evangelical if I am not mistaken, maybe some traddy catholics too which I am not really any of those things but I would oppose legal pot for as long as the hippy exists for being a degrading, ugly, excuse for a human being. Pot can’t be detached from the hippy and its ridiculous culture.
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Unbelievable chutzpuh. This is *our* complaint! African big sports level “student” athletes can’t read at a 2nd grade level, put are given the opportunity to be there because they are athletic r-selected freaks, and now *they* are suing because they were not “given” an education after they were they ones who skipped classes, cheated, made a mockery of higher education, etc.. Of course such an education could not be “given” to them, because 80 IQ gonna 80 IQ.
http://www.cnn.com/2015/01/22/us/unc-paper-classes-lawsuit/index.html
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Nothing amuses negroes more than white people who care what they, the darkies, think.
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Social desirability bias. I’ve read that men even inflate their number of infidelities on sex surveys. Ponder that for a second.
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“CAPLAN” America isn’t his nation.
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