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Asshole Game Week: The Relationship Reset

January 30, 2015 by CH

Asshole Game Week: Day One is here. Day Two here. Day Three here. Day Four here.

The Chateau has plenty of readers already in relationships and (lucifer help you) marriage. Many of them would like to know how to apply asshole game to the women they love and are afraid to drive into boredom because of legal ramifications.

The rules of the Game don’t change when you decide to keep a woman around for longer than a few nights. All that changes is the frequency and intensity of your tactical assault. Instead of “shock and awe”, it’s more like “surprise and delight”.

On that dulcet note, reader Sentient demonstrates by example,

A few notes on asshole game from the confines of a marriage/LTR. Now while these may not have the the same storytelling value of asking a single girl to hold your drink while fucking another girl in front of her, they do render the desired nuclear effect on a fully pampered princess bride, who has grown accustomed to her beta lackey hubby:

1. She asks you to fill her water glass with a whiney “i’m thirsty… and a wiggle of a raised glass” and you say “No thanks”.

2. She asks you to run downstairs and get her xxxx from yyyy and you say “I think you can manage that, it’s good for your glutes too”.

3. She informs you that her BFF has arranged a play date for the kids and you and her an hour away from home at some place you have zero desire to go to, and she expects you to be the driver, as always and you say “Have a good time, not interested”.

4. You make a move for sex at 10 PM on a Wednesday night, she gives you the cold shoulder and something like “we just had sex [fill in the blank] days ago”, and you say “Ok, have a good night”, kiss her on the head and leave the house “not sleepy, going out for a bit” your departing words… a furious litany of hamsterese lighting up your phone for the next hour, which you ignore.

5. and the coup de grace, when she wants to have a BIG TALK ABOUT THE RELATIONSHIP and she says “I don’t like how you have been acting the last [fill in the blank]…” and you look her square in the eye and shrug “you don’t have to”.

BOOOOM goes the dynamite. Relationship reset activated. #winning #welcomebacktestes #tingles

“Relationship Reset” is a good way of putting it. That’s precisely what you want to do. Reset your girlfriend’s or wife’s impression of you. And there’s no hotter button to push than the one that activates a tingle torrent. A million things about you can anger a woman, but if her anger is accompanied by a stirring in her snatch she’ll rationalize your flaws away as if they were puffs of girlish illusion.

Commenter newlyaloof adds a few more Relationship Reset strategies,

#6 Dress/eat differently (adding variety to your life). When wife notices the switch and comments about it, say, “Yeah, I’ve moved on.”

#7 Mention the young, cute girl at the office whenever possible (commute with her if possible too). Instant wife motivator.

#8 Can’t remember who stated this, but if your wife questions anything that you mention, say “Because the words left my mouth, that’s why.”

#6 is thermonuclear, and the blast radius enlarges the longer you can maintain an air of opacity concerning the meaning of your explanation.

I hope everyone enjoyed Asshole Game Week. If popular demand warrants, I may feature another week devoted to the craft of cleaving clefts by psychological axe.

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  1. on January 30, 2015 at 2:23 pm Asshole Game Week: The Relationship Reset | Manosphere.com

    […] Asshole Game Week: The Relationship Reset […]

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  2. on January 30, 2015 at 2:28 pm anon

    In the sixth year of my marriage, which had been nearly sexless the prior three years, my ex-wife wanted to take a month-long vacation, over Christmas no less, to her sister’s house on the other side of the country with my kids, about 6 weeks after we had already taken a 2-week vacation even though finances were not good.

    I put my foot down and told her that she was not taking my kids away from me for 30 days. She was pissed. She did not go on the trip (I stopped her), but she did move out (with the kids) three months later and divorce me. I had made many beta mistakes the prior six years. I responded to marital problems with the classic beta mistake of ramping up the butt kissing–trying to be nicer and do more dishes.

    Wish I had known the red pill stuff then. I still would not be attracted to my homely ex-wife, who is the least physically attractive person I have ever so much as had a date with in my life, but I would have saved the marriage for the kids’ sake. I now know there were many shit tests where what she wanted and needed (subconsciously) was for me to be a man and put her in her place, forcefully–something I never would have done back then in my ignorant blue pill days.

    Lesson to you betas: read the content here carefully. I married a woman who was way, way beneath me in SMV in every respect, but even so, I was the one who got dumped for being too beta, in the end. Even plain 6s are repulsed by beta.

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    • on January 31, 2015 at 7:03 pm Putin

      Interesting anon. I agree on the marriage shit tests.

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  3. on January 30, 2015 at 2:33 pm no

    Fluidly (assume formlessness) has to be the best social skill in life to master. You are dangerous and interesting when you do this. Don’t ever get set in your ways too much even when what you do is tried and true there is always a new angle to explore. This is why I am never in relationships but at the same time women want to get into one as soon as they know me.

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    • on January 30, 2015 at 2:35 pm no

      Fluidity damn autocorrect is a bitch on kindle fire hd

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    • on January 30, 2015 at 7:23 pm NothingMan00

      The way 48 Laws ends with “Assume Formlessness”: seems so ominous but perfect.

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  4. on January 30, 2015 at 2:40 pm Asshole Game Week: The Relationship Reset | Neoreactive

    […] Asshole Game Week: The Relationship Reset […]

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  5. on January 30, 2015 at 2:49 pm D

    Image analysis? http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2933407/Meet-Ricki-Lander-73-year-old-Patriots-owner-Bob-Kraft-s-bombshell-girlfriend-three-years-dancer-turned-actress-half-age.html

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    • on January 31, 2015 at 7:05 pm Putin

      That’s What I’m Talking About!

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  6. on January 30, 2015 at 2:56 pm John Dark

    Damn but these asshole game posts have been good reads.

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    • on January 30, 2015 at 3:47 pm corvinus

      Every week should be asshole game week.

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      • on January 31, 2015 at 7:25 am Lucky White Male

        How about “Older Man/Younger Girl” week

        untapped goldmine

        scattered posts in archives but nothing in depth

        what is see is a lot of younger girls are non-plussed by younger guys their age, and so are

        1. either actively looking for an older guy for quick sex

        2. would become very responsive very quickly provided the older guy knew what to do

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  7. on January 30, 2015 at 3:01 pm Odin's Ravens

    I’ve found relationship game is a lot like any other game. If you choose a good woman you won’t have to deal with much. But you can’t get lazy. Keep playing the game and constantly flirt with other women to remind yourself you can have others if you choose.

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  8. on January 30, 2015 at 3:05 pm Singlebass

    Enjoyed this post but it sure failed to underscore the fundamental and pitiless truth about single game vs. married game.

    Single game is fun. Exciting. It can be tempestuous, with outcome uncertain.
    Occasionally getting shot down in flames is inevitable, expected, and frequently hilarious. Winning at single game means exploring fresh pussy and reveling in the incomparable adrenaline rush of starting a new relationship with a hot young thing who thinks you’re the greatest guy on earth. Single game done properly, with arched eyebrow and bemused insouciance, is a can’t-lose proposition. If all else fails, eject. No harm no foul.

    Married game is not fun. It is not exciting. It’s a soldier, wet and cold, slogging through mud with a 75 pound pack on his back, with nothing to look forward to but more mud and more slogging. Go ahead and carpool with the new cute girl in the office…..if you want to hear about it every fucking hour of every fucking day. Go ahead and use the “because the words left my mouth” line on your wife of 10 years….if you want to endure a week of cold, furious silence/sarcasm/snark. There will be no new pussy. There will be no adrenaline rush. The best you can hope for is a maintenance of the status quo. A truce. A standoff.
    Sounds pretty romantic, doesn’t it?

    The grim facts are these.
    It is impossible to maintain an impeccable alpha frame as a married man. If you change diapers, run the dishwasher, pick up the kid’s clothes off the floor, run a vacuum occasionally, clean the downstairs bathroom before your guests arrive, etc etc, then you are engaging in behavior that can and will be subconsciously viewed by your wife as feminine and beta. These behaviors become increasingly repulsive to a woman as time goes on, but, paradoxically, she will become volcanically angry and resentful if you don’t do them. YOU CANNOT WIN THIS GAME.
    Furthermore, women generally like, or at least don’t mind, conflict with their spouse. Men generally despise conflict and will go along to get along. Most men, myself certainly included, will allow themselves to be devalued and even debased in order to avoid overt conflict with the wife. Women relish, and even engineer and manufacture, marital conflict. YOU CANNOT WIN THIS GAME.
    Lastly, ejecting, nexting, and “no harm no foul” are not operative forces in a marriage. You can arch your eyebrows and suggest she tone her glutes all you want, but the day she decides she is tired of your shit is the day you lose your house, car, kids, and most of your 401K. YOU CANNOT WIN THIS GAME.

    I’m not saying that no man should ever get married, but no man should ever get married without being fully aware of the lifetime of ennui and risk that awaits him.

    [CH: the risk can’t be obliterated, but it can be mitigated.]

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    • on January 31, 2015 at 1:45 pm Anonymous

      This plus 1000

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      • on January 31, 2015 at 7:30 pm Putin

        Thanks for the post Singlebass! No doubt married game is a different world.

        I have been married a long time and let me tell you that I have had to put up with a lot of shit. Getting women was very easy for me and I had developed a rotation which was great. But I was not attracted to many women unless they were hard to get. Well unfortunately I married an angel of death who had never been dumped before. I could tell you stories but basically after going to 3 Christian counselors I was at the end of my rope. My daughters were starting to act the same way as my wife so I decided that I don’t have much to lose except for a great son. I implemented a 10 point plan which involved punishment such as canceling my life insurance(boom), starting to text other women and sell assets as to separate them. The finale came when I got back from meeting with my parents and told her that I mentioned the path we are on. I explained that I told them that she hated sex and was a prude.(nuclear). Then I showed her the latest girl I texted and asked if she would like to see a picture of her.
        The next morning she asked if we could make up. I went into the bathroom and gave her a big sloppy kiss and then said well you need to get more sexual and the first thing you can do is text me a shot of your breasts. She laughed with glee. Got the text within 10 minutes and then I told her to send me some passionate texts. she did.

        Bottom line is the shit tests continue but I am able to gain control of the marriage now along with the help of advice from cites like CH.

        I remember seeing an article on CH in which a 5 point list was given which entailed coming home late and texting other women. I was thinking to myself that it may have been easier to follow that plan instead. Either way it is better advice than going to counseling for sure.

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    • on January 31, 2015 at 3:38 pm Eg

      Until you realize the futility of being the greatest guy on earth and that all it is is a new iteration of the same vicious cycle. YOU CAN’T WIN ANY GAME. That’s the grimmest of facts.

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    • on February 2, 2015 at 8:43 am Sentient

      I’ll call bullshit on this. first it’s a false choice, there is no reason you can’t have both, marriage and some on the side [just don’t fall in love or have her fall in love].

      Second no one is 100% alpha all the time – nor do they need to be. You can be ‘beta” at times from an alpha frame. You are just being beta because a)shit needs done (roof leaking, kid throws up, etc.) and you are a man and will set it right or b) she needs a bit more comfort. You are NOT doing beta things as a covert contract to get more sex or from a place of neediness or validation seeking.

      A LTR is an alpha beta balance. Moment by moment, because her hormones are always fluctuating and her emotions – the only truth to women – are always changing.

      Lead your relationship, act like you actually have something in your ballsack, hold her accountable, don’t be a needy PA pussy, don’t accept sub par sex (frequency and passion), be flirty and fun with ALL women and keep a light thrum of dread humming in the background and you can certainly WIN.

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  9. on January 30, 2015 at 3:10 pm Scott

    I’m married, and one thing which has kept us stable for years is in the first week we were dating I told her I had a 20lb rule. If she gained weight, she was gone. At first she scoffed, then tried to barter – what about when I’m pregnant? The weight of the baby, and if you’re not within 20 lbs within a week of births you’re done. She has said since that this has remained a motivator for her to stay healthy.

    The second thing I do is when she asks me to get her a glass of water or starts drone on about something boring – I look at her with wide eyes, tilt my head and say sarcastically “fascinating! Tell me more!” And then I go back to what I’m doing.

    She expects this behaviour from me now and doesn’t try to fight it. It keeps her happy I stead of randomly melting down.

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    • on January 31, 2015 at 3:59 pm Greg Eliot

      I’m a big proponent of the “Fascinating!” gambit.

      Sometimes I add “You tell the best stories!” and keep staring until she breaks eye contact and either laughs or gives me one of them girl punches in the arm.

      Never fails, especially when you act like you’re sincere, but keep that smirking twinkle in your eye.

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      • on January 31, 2015 at 4:02 pm Bel Riose

        Greg!

        Matt King is back!!

        You can commence licking his ass *now,* if you please…

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      • on January 31, 2015 at 4:18 pm Greg Eliot

        If he is back, it’s high time… ‘though truth be told, more and more members of the chateau over the past few months have joined the fray on the right side of things.

        You, however, haven’t changed one bit, bitch you is…

        … you’re still the sock-puppeting pusillanimous little pismire you ever were, with rent-free living space in your kopf for the spirits of better men than you, rather than a brain.

        (((shakin’ mah haid)))

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  10. on January 30, 2015 at 3:12 pm henry himbeere

    Too bad not all wives can be as devoted as Lakshmihttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0h8HKtHg6w4 but OTOH not all hubbies are quite as sturdy as Lord Vishnu.

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  11. on January 30, 2015 at 3:15 pm Captain Obvious

    > “A million things about you can anger a woman, but if her anger is accompanied by a stirring in her snatch she’ll rationalize your flaws away as if they were puffs of girlish illusion.”

    When she throws the Category Five shit storm at you, HOLD YOUR GROUND. God created her to be a swirling hurricane of emotions and irrationality and [at least situational] insanity. Your job is to be her Rock of Gibraltar. Never back down. Never apologize. Never do any of that pansy-assed defeatist horseshit which the [anti-] marriage counselors advise. You being a linguini-spined little drip does her all the good of a flaccid penis – she needs you to be hard. Rock Hard. Rock of Gibraltar Hard. NEVER BACK DOWN IN A FIGHT WITH YOUR WOMAN. And afterwards, you’ll be rewarded with makeup sex, which is the best sex of all.

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  12. on January 30, 2015 at 3:16 pm The Judge

    It’s so depressing that you can’t do shit for your fuckin wife without her turning into a cunt over it because her terrible stupid mind can’t wrap itself around the fact that you’re now family and a woman becomes special to a man after a certain point.

    But we slready know the ideal way for man and wufe to behave, for it is describes in the

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  13. on January 30, 2015 at 3:38 pm Arbiter

    On another note, a girl is coming over this Saturday to spend the night, first time we’ll do the deed. She lives far away and I know she’s poor, so I bought her a train ticket online and sent her the code to use as a ticket when she steps aboard. You shouldn’t do a girl favors before you have slept with her, except when it is something you can obviously do for her. She’s coming to my place, so it’s something that I benefit from too, and I bought her the ticket so she can come over more times despite her empty wallet.

    Anyway. She then sent me a message back saying, “”That is so nice of you to buy me a ticket, thanks! Can I have your address so I can have it in case it is needed.”

    Wow. What a way to thank me. I assume she wants my address so she can find me online and check up on me, maybe find my income level. She asked for my last name before but we were in a loud room with other people by the table and we were interrupted. I have never had a girl ask for my personal info like that before, though. Wonder how I should reply to that. It annoys me that she would throw in her selfish concerns right after an act of unselfishness from my side. Yeah, yeah, women are selfish and all that, but this was a bit too abrupt for my taste.

    So now I’m thinking of a response that is just enough to let her know what I think of that, but not enough to make her call off the weekend.

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    • on January 30, 2015 at 3:47 pm The Judge

      Wtf

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    • on January 30, 2015 at 4:44 pm jez

      She’s making a long journey to come and stay with you, but she doesn’t know where you live and doesn’t know your name?

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      • on January 30, 2015 at 5:08 pm Arbiter

        We have met many times in another context, a spare-time interest. Do you usually tell people your address in normal conversations? And yeah, she knows my name, obviously, but you don’t mention your last name when you’re out with friends. Asking for name and address is clearly for checking me online, and since she already has met me with friends many times, the only thing to check would be income.

        Not far enough to qualify as a “journey”.

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      • on January 30, 2015 at 7:42 pm Captain Obvious

        > “Asking for name and address is clearly for checking me online”

        And for ruling out the possibility that you’re an ax murderer [and registered sex offender] who is out on parole?

        > “She lives far away and I know she’s poor”

        C’mon dude – man up here. You can be both a gentleman and a masculine playah – the two are not mutually exclusive. You make it sound like you just want to tap it and then dump it, which is tantamount to turning the poor girl into an outright prostitute. Do you not have some natural chemistry going with her? Is she a nice girl? Maybe possibly even a sweetheart?

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      • on January 30, 2015 at 7:56 pm Arbiter

        “Man up” is not a phrase we like around these here parts. It comes from advice columns in women’s magazines and the like, and it is always about extracting resources from men. “Man up, even if it’s not your baby”.

        You can be both a gentleman and a masculine playah – the two are not mutually exclusive.

        You mean like paying for her train ticket when I didn’t have to? How did what I wrote exclude being a gentleman, if that’s what I want to be?

        You make it sound like you just want to tap it and then dump it

        It is not wrong to have a fling, or ten. We are both adults and know what we are doing. But what in my text there says I want to tap it and dump it? When I wrote about wanting to see her more times?

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      • on January 30, 2015 at 7:58 pm Arbiter

        And for ruling out the possibility that you’re an ax murderer [and registered sex offender] who is out on parole?

        When I have seen her many times through a hobby, in the company of other friends, like I wrote?

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      • on January 30, 2015 at 8:18 pm Captain Obvious

        C’mon Arbiter, man, you don’t just pluck some poor naive peasant girl waif out of the countryside and bring her to the Big City in order to make her your own personal pump-n-dump semen receptacle – that shit is getting out towards Jeffrey Epstein levels of EVIL. Take the poor girl out on a fun date and relax and enjoy yourself, and, who knows, in nine months maybe she’ll be pushing out a little Arbiter Jr and the world will be a better place and everyone will live happily ever after. PS: In the USA, you d@mned better know about the Mann Act, if, say, your pump-n-dump semen receptacle were to cross from NJ or CT or PA into NYC. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mann_Act

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      • on January 30, 2015 at 8:42 pm Anonymous

        Jez, don’t be jealous that Arbiter has been chatting online ALL DAY with babes. They chat online for like two hours every day, so I guess you could say things are getting pretty serious.

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      • on January 30, 2015 at 8:44 pm Captain Obvious

        Reply in the ether – check back again in 48 to 72 hours.

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      • on January 30, 2015 at 8:50 pm Captain Obvious

        You could make an Agree-and-Amplify joke about it and toss it right back at her: “No, because then you’ll google me and discover that I’ve been to prison and I’m an ex-con bad boy [like your mother always warned you about] and you’ll become so hopelessly smitten with me that I’ll never be able to get rid of you.”

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      • on January 31, 2015 at 6:23 am Captain Obvious

        “PS: And don’t ask me to start spanking you. The last chick I started disciplining was coming over her at 3AM in the frigging morning, banging on my door, demanding that I get out the paddle and put her over my knee. You chicks are all frigging nuts.”

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      • on January 31, 2015 at 1:42 pm The Spirit Within

        @Anonymous

        +1 on the Napoleon Dynamite reference

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      • on January 31, 2015 at 3:03 pm King A

        #JeSuisLafawndah

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      • on February 1, 2015 at 11:06 am Arbiter

        Aw, little Tilicum is too much of a pussy to post under his real name so has to post his chickenshit comments as anonymous. It’s hilarious how I have driven him away from the blog. He probably spends his evenings watching his stories on teevee while guzzling cheap beer and cursing those he hates, young people, “gym rats with their tanning salons” (the old loser is stuck in the 80s) and of course women.

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      • on February 1, 2015 at 11:17 am Arbiter

        “C’mon Arbiter, man, you don’t just pluck some poor naive peasant girl waif out of the countryside and bring her to the Big City in order to make her your own personal pump-n-dump semen receptacle – that shit is getting out towards Jeffrey Epstein levels of EVIL.”

        That’s an odd comment. You keep reading things into this that aren’t there – even after I set you straight. Twice now have I told you I want to see her more times. Do I have to say it again? That you keep up this “pump-n-dump” crap is seriously white knighting.

        “poor naive peasant girl”, what the fuck are you smoking? Where does it say she lives in the country? She studies at a university, that’s why I said she’s poor. It seems adding that one word made your protective instinct go haywire so you can’t read replies.

        “Take the poor girl out on a fun date and relax and enjoy yourself”

        Once again assuming things that aren’t there. Are you projecting something from your own life? I have been on dates with her. If you could read anything other than the word “poor” which made you short-circuit, you’d see that I have said I have met her many times before. We know each other. This is ridiculous – don’t answer unless you read what you are answering.

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    • on January 30, 2015 at 8:18 pm Anonymous

      You tell her “I took care of it. Call me from the train station if YOU have a problem, and I will take of that too”.

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      • on February 1, 2015 at 11:19 am Arbiter

        Of course I met her at the train station. It seems some here have problems understanding that if a girl comes by train or plane or bus to your town from another town, it goes without saying that you meet her there. It makes me wonder how much experience those who reply like this really have.

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    • on January 31, 2015 at 7:59 am Anonymous

      Why is it weird she wants your address when she’s coming to stay with you? I’d just assume it’s because she wants to be able to find your place when she comes over…

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      • on February 1, 2015 at 11:07 am Arbiter

        You don’t think I’d meet her at the train station? Why would I bring it up if that wasn’t the case? If she had to come to my place by herself of course she would need my address. Apparently I have to spell out every little detail.

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    • on January 31, 2015 at 10:03 am oh gosh

      Even the people who supposedly don’t buy into societal programming et al are so deluded. Newsflash Arbiter: there is no such thing as “an act of unselfishness.” Everything you, me, anyone does is done FOR OURSELVES. The only reason you paid for the ticket is because you want something out of this. Giving money to a homeless bum is only done for the giver’s own satisfaction, ultimately. This blog has blown away many delusions of the human race, but it’s also opened up new ones that people cling to.

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      • on February 1, 2015 at 11:09 am Arbiter

        Newsflash oh gosh: the claim that no acts can be unselfish is irrelevant to this issue. And in case you missed it, I also wrote that I would also benefit from buying her a train ticket, so yeah. (And of course acts can be unselfish. Whatever libertarian websites say. If you want to claim otherwise, fine, but don’t say those who don’t but that libertarian pap are “deluded”.)

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    • on January 31, 2015 at 12:38 pm YaReally

      @Arbiter
      You’re paranoid. She just wants your address incase her phone dies or you can’t find eachother or the train breaks down and she has to cab it or you end up being a serial killer and she needs her friends to know where to look for the corpse.

      Don’t give her your last name (why would you give them your real last name in the first place? If you give her one give her a fake one…she will definitely google your full name lol) and if you’re in an apartment building just give her the address of the building not your unit/buzzer number (don’t even tell her it’s an apartment building so she doesn’t expect those).

      It’s fine lol you could probably get her to come regardless but like, you’re reading way too much into this and refusing to give an address might make her flake because, well, that’s weird behavior.

      It’s why I say I don’t use Facebook, instead of saying I have Facebook but you can’t friend me on it. Because I know it’s weird behavior to NOT allow a girl to add me on her Facebook and looks like I’m hiding a wife and kids etc. so instead of dodging around it which is unusual behavior and suspicious, I just rule it out completely as an option and avoid that situ.

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      • on January 31, 2015 at 12:41 pm K

        @ Arbiter

        everything YaReally said is spot on.

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      • on February 1, 2015 at 11:13 am Arbiter

        “Paranoid”? When I have met her several times already, in the company of friends of mine, and she knows me? No. She also knows what hobby I am tied to, so in case I would – and I have to laugh – be “a serial killer” people could easily have found me when she horribly disappeared.

        How often do you meet serial killers, YaReally? Now who’s paranoid?

        Not be able to find each other – at a train station? And train break down – when we both have cellphones? Cab it? If I wouldn’t show up to meet her and wouldn’t answer the phone, why would she go to my place? No, that’s not the reason she wanted my address, it was to check up on me online, which is a shitty thing to do.

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      • on February 1, 2015 at 11:26 am Arbiter

        And by the way, what I replied to her was, “So you can check up on me? Hah. You’ll see when you get here”. Then I ignored that and wrote about meeting her together with a friend, and she replied that we’d see each other soon, which we did, the next day.

        Yes, boys and girls, it was that simple. But apparently this made some brains spin out of control with assumptions and white knighting. “axe murderer”, “serial killer”, when I’ve known her for months. Please. A telling lesson about some of the Chateau clientele. If a question doesn’t follow well-rehashed tracks, the inexperience comes out. From now on let’s stick to whether you should buy a girl a drink at a bar.

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  14. on January 30, 2015 at 3:46 pm The Judge

    Btw what happened to GBFM? The blog is gone too

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    • on January 31, 2015 at 1:43 pm Anonymous

      He was disappeared by SJW.

      he pops in from time to time to tell us what he’s learningz in heavenszz

      Lolzlolololzlolz

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      • on January 31, 2015 at 3:45 pm The Judge

        What happened?? I know it was a few months ago but don’t know any details.

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  15. on January 30, 2015 at 3:52 pm Anonymous

    “#7 Mention the young, cute girl at the office whenever possible (commute with her if possible too). Instant wife motivator.”

    #9 get cute young girlfriend at teh office

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  16. on January 30, 2015 at 3:53 pm Benson

    “‘I don’t like how you have been acting the last [fill in the blank]…’ and you look her square in the eye and shrug ‘you don’t have to’.”

    I’m keeping that close for future use. I could have avoided a ferocious nut stomping if I knew that response three weeks ago.

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    • on January 30, 2015 at 4:01 pm Sentient

      Full attribution that line is from Fredless who posts at mmsl. And it works. Oh boy does it work…

      Happy Assholing 😉

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      • on January 30, 2015 at 5:04 pm Benson

        “Oh boy does it work…”

        I bet, because complying with her wishes certainly doesn’t.

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      • on January 30, 2015 at 7:45 pm Captain Obvious

        > “complying with her wishes”

        I’ve got a reply lost in the ether right now to the effect that you NEVER BACK DOWN in a fight with your woman.

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      • on January 30, 2015 at 8:01 pm Benson

        “I’ve got a reply lost in the ether right now to the effect that you NEVER BACK DOWN in a fight with your woman.”

        Definitely, though it’s hard to maintain that frame when the possibility of losing a beautiful baby looms over you.

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      • on January 30, 2015 at 8:20 pm Captain Obvious

        Please don’t tell me that she went to the abortuary and murdered your child.

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      • on January 30, 2015 at 8:57 pm Benson

        “Please don’t tell me that she went to the abortuary and murdered your child.”

        I know you’re trying to be funny, but I feel compelled to point out that I was making a Swingers reference. Now I also have an excuse to post this clip: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vvKeDr3k7n0

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      • on January 31, 2015 at 6:28 am Captain Obvious

        No, I actually assumed that you were a reasonably handsome guy, and that she was a fairly cute girl, and that she was pregant with your “beautiful baby” [because at the end of the day, children are the only thing worth fighting over]. But if SHE is the “beautiful baby”, and if you are worried about the loss of HER, then you are still deeply mired in a Lesser Beta / Greater Gamma mindset. YOU ARE THE PRIZE. Not she. Losing you is HER LOSS. And when [or if] you [ever] grow up, you’ll realize that losing her was YOUR GAIN. “Never backing down in a fight with your woman” is part of Outer Game, but you have got to work on your Inner Frame which propels the Outer Game. Ditch that whole Beta/Gamma mindset of yours, and work overtime on achieving the ne plus ultra of Inner Frame, which is the nirvana of “Frankly my dear, I don’t give a damn.”

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      • on January 31, 2015 at 6:34 am Captain Obvious

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      • on January 31, 2015 at 11:16 am Benson

        ” you have got to work on your Inner Frame which propels the Outer Game.”

        I agree with everything you’ve said, but unlearning a lifetime’s worth of bad habits takes time. In particular, I’ve had trouble coming to terms with the success I’ve had since developing some game. It’s shockingly effective and I wasn’t ready for it. I imagine it’s similar to going from extreme poverty to affluence overnight.

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      • on January 31, 2015 at 5:35 pm Captain Obvious

        1) Don’t knock up the wrong woman [knock up the right woman instead].

        2) Don’t dip it in some terminally nasty shiznat like antibiotic-resistant syphilis.

        3) Don’t let a jealous husband and his trusty 12-gauge shotgun blow your head right off of your shoulders.

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      • on January 31, 2015 at 5:56 pm Benson

        “Don’t knock up the wrong woman [knock up the right woman instead].”

        That’s been bothering me, too. I thought she was a good fit for motherhood. Had she been a slut who blew me the same night we met, this would be a whole different situation, speaking from experience.

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      • on February 1, 2015 at 6:51 am Sentient

        @Benson if you check your NAWALT mindset and realize AWALT you will greatly expand your game success. Any girl will have sex on the first interaction if you are the right guy and can spike the attraction enough. I k ow from experience as well from ons and my darling bride of 25 years, she was a good girl who attacked me on our firsts ate because I overwhelmed her her asd. The difference between the chaste girl and a sexual girl is the guy.

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      • on February 1, 2015 at 11:35 am Arbiter

        But if SHE is the “beautiful baby”, and if you are worried about the loss of HER, then you are still deeply mired in a Lesser Beta / Greater Gamma mindset. YOU ARE THE PRIZE. Not she. Losing you is HER LOSS. And when [or if] you [ever] grow up, you’ll realize that losing her was YOUR GAIN. “Never backing down in a fight with your woman” is part of Outer Game, but you have got to work on your Inner Frame which propels the Outer Game. Ditch that whole Beta/Gamma mindset of yours, and work overtime on achieving the ne plus ultra of Inner Frame

        Captain Obvious, despite your name it’s obvious that you rely on PUA phraseology. “you are the prize!” is typical ego-pumping. (How do you know every single guy is “the prize” and not the woman he is trying to get? Ego trip that could keep a balloon in the air for days.)

        Lesser Beta, Greater Gamma, YOU ARE THE PRIZE, losing you is HER LOSS (you know him? You know her?), Outer Game, Inner Frame, Outer Game, Beta, Gamma, Inner Frame … Jeebus. And you take the time to insult him saying he hasn’t “grown up”. This reeks of inexperience. And no, posting a YouTube video doesn’t bolster your case.

        And neither does taking your name from TV Tropes. Every little kid who wants to look clever online posts a link either to the “Captain Obvious” “trope” or to the “So Yeah” or “Sarcasm Mode” tropes. Simple, ridiculous “tropes” that a child can understand. Links and references should be to actual facts, basing them on TV Tropes is the wrong direction. And if it has to be TV Tropes, at least choose something other than the most obvious, snarky “tropes” to show that you have actually bothered to read a little bit.

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    • on February 1, 2015 at 12:05 pm Benson

      “Any girl will have sex on the first interaction if you are the right guy and can spike the attraction enough.”

      Probably. I nearly slept with her on our first date, but the point I was making is that she is objectively higher quality than any of the other girls I’ve dated so far.

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  17. on January 30, 2015 at 4:03 pm Two-Sider

    It is high time Heartiste declared his official position on whether by teaching Game, he increased mudsharking by white women.

    On one hand, game works very well, and overcomes many drawbacks.

    On the other hand, the comments section here is filled with losers who have no interest in Game, but whine about being passed over by white women for a colored guy (which would not happen to any white man who has even a little game).

    In fact, mudsharking is exactly proportional to insufficient white guys with game.

    So which is it, CH?

    Are you going to claim that Game doesn’t work if a non-white guy (like Roosh or VK or Matador) does it?

    Or are you going to claim that Game works very well, and will often greatly improve the results of a colored guy using it (thus offending your white-nationalist readers).

    Either Game doesn’t work when a colored guy uses it, or Heartiste has, over the last 6 years, enabled thousands of colored guys to bed white women.

    One of these two has to be true.

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    • on January 31, 2015 at 3:23 pm King A

      Mudsharking exploits a deficit in female character, not in the hypothetical white male character which is no part of that sordid equation. Now it’s The White Man’s fault that women are going native in a culture of mixed-race propaganda in our cereal commercials?

      CH shouldn’t teach game because swarthy men listen more? No, the solution is for the white “losers who have no interest in Game” to step up and reclaim their manhood. Otherwise you are suggesting that manliness is for the dark races, which is covert (and perhaps unintentional) support for the ongoing sissification of whites into mug-clutching pajama boys.

      “You may have no interest in the game, but the game is interested in you.”

      Matt

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      • on January 31, 2015 at 7:16 pm Anonymous

        This. Thanks Matt. The comment to which you responded is nigger level stupid.

        Dumb fuck: I see very African boys with beautiful very fair blue eyed women everywhere I go. I was not there when they met. I don’t know where they met. Probably in high school.

        This is especially prevalent in the very young–age 18-21. It’s all they know as the propaganda has ramped up one hundred thousandfold the lady 6 years.

        As the companion goodbye in a photo website shows. Prom. School. The cool thing for a hottie to do is be with an African.

        You can bet if I’m out no African AMOGs me in front of any girl.

        I’m talking about poor innocent 19 year old beauties who I’ve never met.

        Women do what they are told to do on TV. YKW has done this on purpose. It’s just fucking obvious and horrifying once one really sees what’s been happening.

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    • on January 31, 2015 at 4:10 pm Greg Eliot

      On the other hand, the comments section here is filled with losers who have no interest in Game, but whine about being passed over by white women for a colored guy (which would not happen to any white man who has even a little game).

      There are several here to decry the Decline of the West, the antiWhite agenda of the Cathedral and its puppet-masters, and the general lowering of standards in re sexual activity by women (cock-carouseling).

      But I can’t recall anyone in the comments section specifically “whining” that he lost a girl to a darky.

      Maybe one or two sock puppets on rare occasional may have been trolling and I missed it… but “filled with losers who whine about being passed over…”?

      You’re either some sort of trolling shill, with a Passover fetish at that… or the usual misspoken, mistaken, misreading darky attempting a “muh dik” neener-neener at YT.

      Alas, the chateau already has enough of both, so…

      Avaunt, thou fool!

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      • on January 31, 2015 at 6:17 pm Anon2

        Actually, Greg, you are one of the worst, unlike the other commenters here who still have a primary interest in Game.

        Should I remind you of Christina Hendricks’ husband?

        I see this is merely a signal that I have to make sure my Game stays good enough.

        If a man of an inferior race has a woman that I want, that is the same as seeing a man shorter, balder, or poorer than me with a woman I want. His game was better, and I need to never stop improving.

        You just whine and ‘shake your haid’, ensuring that your marble-sized brain falls out.

        Learn Game and compete.

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      • on January 31, 2015 at 6:43 pm King A

        We can all agree that the best approach is to not think of miscegenators at all. Don’t give their coal-burning the air it needs to even smolder.

        White women are the biggest racists of any group when it comes to sexual selection, as they can afford to be, being the most desired. The anomaly only becomes an issue when we fixate on it like wannabe cuckolds.

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      • on January 31, 2015 at 7:23 pm Anonymous

        Anon2 no his game was not better. I wasn’t there. She is disrespecting her white father.

        And the goodbye photo blog is accurate. I keep seeing VERY PRETTY thin 19 year old hotties with AFRICAN DARK darkies.

        Saw it just this past Thursday night. And they made out On a lounge couch all night, she wearing a shirt skirt. He was basically fingering her in public.

        60 years ago I’d have been free to do something about it. He was not bigger than me.

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      • on February 1, 2015 at 12:07 pm Greg Eliot

        Actually, Greg, you are one of the worst, unlike the other commenters here who still have a primary interest in Game.

        Fool, I’ve often said here at the chateau that I’m happily married and have no need to “compete” with the flotsam that passes for you clowns.

        Having never had trouble getting laid in my younger years, and still having opportunities to this day in winning the favors of women in my interest range, some of the monkey dances you younger guys do nowadays, calling it “game”, just makes me… well… shake mah haid.

        (a schtick phrase I humorously appropriated from one of my Cyberian bete noires, here at the chateau, if you need the reference as to why I use it so often, but I digress.)

        And for the record, most of my haid shakin’ goes towards the socio-political shilling that the Sunstein Brigade attempts at this site… so if the shoe fits, get it square up your backside.

        The next time I want to hear the opinion of an asshole, I’ll break wind.

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    • on January 31, 2015 at 5:33 pm ho

      He is right from the perspective of “why the fuck are people here projective bleeding out of their ass whenever they see mud sharking?”

      It is normal to be disgusted by coal burning and shun those who do it. But in the Goodbye for America blog, almost without exception, mud sharking posts lead to incredible butthurt, with 25 comments at the minimum.

      This is unbecoming. If I was a dark, I would pop wood over the gnashing of teeth. One can oppose miscegenation without sounding like a whimpering dog.

      There will be white chicks that fuck blacks. Get over it. What you should oppose are efforts to increase to prevalence of it. Fuming over mere pictures of it happening is pathetic.

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    • on January 31, 2015 at 6:37 pm PA

      mud sharking posts lead to incredible butthurt

      It’s hard to tell the age of unfamiliar commenters but my gut feeling is that younger guys generally don’t get too bothered by mudsharking. It’s not so much that the are “tolerant,” as that they are not yet old enough to feel invested in the future. That, and they understand that the blacks are taking out they trash. Sure, absent the government’s boot they’d have laid a beatdown on the offending couple on general principle like in the Old South but that’s not the world they live in now. It’s older people — men and women — who see the big picture better. The biggest opponents of mixing is not young white guys, but white men and women with daughters.

      I look at mudsharking somewhat like at drunk driving deaths. I don’t want driving or drinking to be illegal but I do want DWI socially judged and homicides punished. And while some may write off a mudshark as no loss to them, to me that is still a human being with a family, who, like a teenage girl killed by a drunk driver, leaves behind a grieving family. And unlike the victim of a drunk driver, she also leaves a humiliated family — and by extension — a humiliated race behind.

      This is unbecoming. If I was a dark, I would pop wood over the gnashing of teeth.

      Is there anything pushed by the Murkan Empire that does not produce parasite-glee in darks?

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    • on January 31, 2015 at 6:40 pm PA

      One other thing that I may elaborate more later. Lower-end white girls used to try to look thin and attractive because lower end white men still had standards. Now, those girls don’t bother because they know that they can get a black guy who doesn’t mind. This creates a market-skew that runs up the foodchain, and that affects all of us.

      [CH: and lower end white girls who stayed thin and feminine also had a decent shot at snagging an upper end man. which, in the big picture, is an ideal system for spreading good genes throughout the race.]

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    • on February 1, 2015 at 11:41 am Arbiter

      “It is high time Heartiste declared his official position on whether by teaching Game, he increased mudsharking by white women.”

      This is typical for attention whores: direct wild accusations of treason against the leaders of the movement. If the leaders reply, then the attention whore can beam with pride – one of the big guys replied to him! To him! That means he is big too! He matters!

      Bullshit accusation. So CH shouldn’t teach game because some non-Whites could read it? I laugh. That’s like saying you are a traitor if you post about economics or health or anything else, because non-Whites could read it.

      Besides, many of those non-Whites who read CH regularly will more or less agree with race realism, or they wouldn’t stay. There were a whole lot of readers years ago who didn’t stay because they were race deniers.

      Anyway, it is not for you to decide what is “high time” for CH to do. What have you ever done for the cause you supposedly adhere to? Far more likely that you’re an anti-White troll.

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  18. on January 30, 2015 at 4:05 pm askjoe

    cool week of stories, brah.

    I just saw this nuclear post relationship bomb by lib-shit head (but alpha apparent) Penn:

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2930174/Sean-Penn-opens-Charlize-Theron-finding-love-54-rejects-former-marriages-candid-interview-Esquire.html

    I’d consider this marriage to a girl half my age to be my first real marriage, if we did it.

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  19. on January 30, 2015 at 4:08 pm The Myth

    Don’t want to clog up the comments section just wanted to extend my gratitude for all of the information. Asshole Week was pretty awesome and I never stop learning when I come to your blog. My life has gotten immeasurably better since I’ve started reading a long time ago and putting into practice what I’ve learned and I just wanted to say thanks.

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  20. on January 30, 2015 at 4:25 pm Zendog

    Discovered red pill, CH and RM about 6 months ago. In an ltr, shacked up, for 7 years, and she dumps me. She is emotional train wreck, I try to elevate from beta to pretend alpha and say ‘OK’ with no emotion. She is going mental, trying All sorts of (what I now know is) beta bait and I’m ‘OK, all fine, whatever’. She moves out.

    I try and game (no idea how to do it, complete failure – will continue on the learning curve) on other birds – no idea what I’m doing, know the theory, no practical experience @ 51, never needed it in the past, but followed beta method and serial monogamy. Not for me now, no way back.

    I text here, no punctuation, ‘fancy drinks tonight’ – tried alpha fake it. Wow, loads of fun, sex was absolutely best ever. two months in, even better! Thank you red pill, CH, RM.

    Post was about ltr stuff, it really works, she loves it, even if we were still living together, this is the way to go.

    Zendog.

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    • on January 30, 2015 at 4:42 pm Arbiter

      Ouch, seven years, that’s a long time. But great to hear that you succeeded with game after that. Game saves!

      There is quite a difference, isn’t there, between losing a seven-year relationship, and losing a seven-year relationship and having great sex with another woman afterward?

      Thinking of the game deniers, the “what’s the point?” types who try to find any angle to attack the manosphere teachings.

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    • on January 30, 2015 at 8:09 pm The Seeker of Truth

      What is RM?

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      • on January 30, 2015 at 8:27 pm mendozatorres

        Rational Male

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  21. on January 30, 2015 at 4:30 pm Johnny Salami

    Seriously married dudes everywhere, follow this post. Do what they say. It will be the biggest dose of ActRight

    If she responds by wanting a divorce, then she is definitely cheating on you and has an emotional springboard lined up.

    It may suck at first, but you will be better off. Also humanity will be better for knocking these biotches down a peg.

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  22. on January 30, 2015 at 4:31 pm Johnny Salami

    Word press seems to filter out a lot of posts

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  23. on January 30, 2015 at 4:51 pm newlyaloof

    yeah, man! When you truly get to the point where you don’t give a fuck about the consequences of ending your marriage with kids, you can drop these nukes with ease. And it’s not so much that you are being an asshole – you’ve simply tried all other non-asshole tactics you could think of and your woman may not have responded positively. The switch flips so you don’t flip out.

    And NOW the sex starts flowing. Ironic shite right there. Have to buy another box of condoms tonight too since I ran out.

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  24. on January 30, 2015 at 5:01 pm tteclod

    I strongly recommend switching around your lifestyle habits occasionally. Keep ‘er guessing.

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  25. on January 30, 2015 at 5:25 pm driveallnight

    Just reset porn girl yesterday with a variation of #3, lolzzzzlollll

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  26. on January 30, 2015 at 5:54 pm jonbovi

    CH has improved my life massively.

    In an LTR currently with a woman of high caliber – would never have approached her, much less been able to handle her years ago as a sniveling beta.

    I’m probably still somewhat beta, but it seems the “bang for your buck” from just a little bit of asshole game is enormous. It took way, way too long to realize that a woman’s ego is the worst enemy of a good LTR.

    Thank you, CH.

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    • on January 30, 2015 at 6:27 pm bonjovi's cousin

      i like this, i like this alot………………………………………………..

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    • on February 1, 2015 at 11:44 am Arbiter

      Indeed, the “bang for your buck” from just a little game awareness, whether asshole game or not, is enormous. For a lot of guys even the most basic PUA/manosphere teachings are an eye opener. And other things they somewhat thought of already, but they need someone to tell them clearly – such as, don’t contact her too often, don’t write too long letters, don’t ask her out again right away.

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  27. on January 30, 2015 at 6:11 pm The Spirit Within

    This stuff works … until she wises up, or just doesn’t care anymore. And then it doesn’t.

    Don’t ask me how I know.

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    • on January 30, 2015 at 6:42 pm Putin

      How do you know? I am married by the way.

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      • on January 31, 2015 at 1:45 pm The Spirit Within

        You don’t follow instructions very well.

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    • on January 31, 2015 at 3:45 pm King A

      This “stuff” never doesn’t work. Unless you play it like a magic trick to get immediate results — rather than living the philosophy.

      The strings on women resonate from the bow of command. If you come off as a domineering fuckwit who read a few game tips, you’re missing the point.

      Men are so afraid to be men in this culture that even a crass simulation of leadership via petulant bossiness is preferred over the castration and passivity of the Good Men Project with which women have been forced to compromise.

      Matt

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      • on January 31, 2015 at 4:00 pm Bel Riose

        Oh fuck.

        He’s baaaack……..

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      • on January 31, 2015 at 10:05 pm The Spirit Within

        Exactly, Bel Riose. Matt King has probably never kissed a woman in his life. His view of what “works” (read: “be manly, man”) is so theoretical it makes my toes curl in disgust.

        Let’s spell it out for him: All LTRs, married or not, de-alpha even the alphaiest alpha. But he wouldn’t know that.

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      • on February 1, 2015 at 10:54 am Stilicho

        No “probably” about it: he’s admitted as much, in a comment he posted some time ago.

        Apparently kissing a woman prior to marriage — to say nothing of actually sleeping with a woman prior to marriage — violates Dipshit Matt King’s deeply – held religious beliefs, is a sin, etc….or somesuch. I can’t remember exactly what he said, and have no desire to try and track down the comment.

        Bottom line: he’s about as qualified as Jessica Valenti, or Hanna Rosin, to comment on Game.

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      • on February 1, 2015 at 12:12 pm Greg Eliot

        StraponWithin siding with another asshole at the chateau and talking shit from the safety of his keyboard about a guy whose shoes he wouldn’t be fit to shine… go figger.

        Birds of a fairy feather. lzozlzozlzozlzozlzozlozlozlozl

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      • on February 1, 2015 at 12:25 pm Pluviophile

        it makes my toes curl in disgust.

        What a disgusting, feminine reflex you have.

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      • on February 1, 2015 at 8:34 pm Greg Eliot

        Exactly… the boy continuously misses the irony of how he so often outs himself as a slack-jaw.

        “Toes curl in disgust”… geez, Louise… the haid couldn’t shake more.

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  28. on January 30, 2015 at 6:25 pm Putin

    “lucifer help you”- Somewhat new to the board. Not your conventional off the cuff comment so anyone wish to enlighten me?

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    • on January 30, 2015 at 7:49 pm Captain Obvious

      Tongue-in-cheek reference to the Dark Triad and its nearly irresistible allure to most women: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_triad

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      • on January 30, 2015 at 7:51 pm Captain Obvious

        If you haven’t read it yet, then stop whatever you’re doing and learn Cleckley’s case history of “Stanley”: http://www.cassiopaea.com/cassiopaea/cleckley.pdf

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      • on January 30, 2015 at 7:54 pm Captain Obvious

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      • on January 30, 2015 at 7:57 pm Captain Obvious

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      • on January 30, 2015 at 9:00 pm Putin

        Thanks

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      • on January 31, 2015 at 10:01 am Hugh Mann

        Never mind Cleckley, check out agent Zig-Zag

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eddie_Chapman

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      • on January 31, 2015 at 11:03 am Captain Obvious

        Cleckley was a towering genius – a simple country boy from Georgia who discovered “Cluster B” when everyone else was worried about Freudian distractions such as how to potty-train a little boy. My guess is that the Oscar Mayer Wiener Academy might also have been aware of Cluster B, although since they were all sociopaths themselves, it would have required a tremendous amount of honesty on their parts to have come to grips with it. And since they were also pathological liars, I doubt that they had that sort of honesty of introspection. But they certainly would have been aware of BPD and HPD bubbling just beneath the surface in all of their female YKWess patients.

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    • on January 31, 2015 at 3:54 pm King A

      Using evil is kewl language is his nod to What Brung Him to prominence, even though his personal gates of hell are not prevailing. A man can only earnestly be a part of this war for so long before he puts away childish things and makes his decision for Christ.

      His strategy for now is to not talk openly about his gradual conversion, lest he be forced to confront some contradictions.

      But the signs are there …

      https://heartiste.wordpress.com/2014/04/17/jesus-had-game/

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    • on January 31, 2015 at 4:00 pm King A

      … and here:

      In hoc signo vinces:

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  29. on January 30, 2015 at 6:56 pm Putin

    Does a women lose her sex drive in marriage because the guy is beta or because of age? I have a friend who is a complete beta and his wife resents him tremendously but he swears she has lost her drive because of age?

    His wife will actually stare him down and openly talks about her regret of getting married early.

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    • on January 31, 2015 at 1:42 pm Sentient

      Both. And both are your fault. Betaization – well you can read all about it here and fix it. Age also brings hormonal fluctuations however which can lower sex drive and responsiveness HOWEVER you can, get involved and ensure your wife is doing what she can on hormonal and natural therapies and DREAD will induce your little flower to tend to your needs, despite how she is feeling. So don’t fall for the blue pill BS “that’s just what happens”…

      He needs to implement operation relationship reset ASAP.

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      • on January 31, 2015 at 2:12 pm having a bad day

        +2

        (that’s a double endorsement…lol)

        he’s the man = HIS responsibility for his AND her outcomes…remember…she’s just a silly girl (regardless of her ‘strong and independent women’ schtick…)

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      • on January 31, 2015 at 2:39 pm Culum Struan

        @HABD – just replied on the older thread to your big response to my online dating exchanges. NOthing major – just saying thanks and its interesting how I am understanding dynamics which were invisible even a few months ago but they are so obvious now (when you pointed them out)

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      • on February 2, 2015 at 4:29 pm Putin

        Yes, I told him it is all his fault even though he whines about how mean and crazy she is.

        I have come to the conclusion that beta men can destroy their whole family

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    • on February 1, 2015 at 11:46 am Arbiter

      You need to eat paleo, practice Intermittent Fasting, and exercise, to slow down aging and keep the energy. Then your sex drive will remain strong much longer.

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  30. on January 30, 2015 at 7:14 pm Asshole Game Week: The Relationship Reset | Reaction Times

    […] Source: Heartiste […]

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  31. on January 30, 2015 at 8:18 pm TLOS

    Heartise, this is the best content you’ve put out in a while. Not just because i prefer game posts, either; your clarity and practicality are stronger as well.

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  32. on January 30, 2015 at 8:51 pm bear

    Went through a spell with the wifey that was a bit rough. She says ” when we get back to ____ I recommend we do marriage counseling”. I looked at her and laughed and then said “No”. She’s like ” What”? I said “No as in never. Change your attitude and things will get better” That was that. She never brought it up since and things have gone pretty smoothly since.

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  33. on January 30, 2015 at 8:57 pm Rum

    Sometimes luck plays a role. Imagine an outdoor scene where GF 1 is giving you shi.t about you not fulfilling all her needs. etc., when GF 2 (who is half her age and knows GF 1s name} walks up and says “Hello GF1” and then turns to look at you with shamelessly sexual intent. I did not plan it. Nonetheless, it was a fine day to be alive and it helped GF 1 find enlightenment.
    For a lot of complicated reasons that I do not want to go into (having to do with GF 2s mother(GF3) & me – and promises I had made)… it was only a few times.

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  34. on January 30, 2015 at 11:25 pm walawala

    One of the girls I’m banging is the 27 year old. She started pushing back on me and I laid down the law about the issue.

    So I’m on holiday and I’m returning home after 2 weeks….nothing in my fridge, and wanting to bang her brains out. I texted a few comfort texts and she texts “I want to see you so bad”.

    Me: Come over Sunday and make breakfast. my fridge is empty

    Her: I’m working so early on Saturday and blah blah, can we meet up later in the week?

    Me….nothing, radio silence…A few hours later

    Her: Ok babe I’ll come over with the groceries.

    The one part of game I have the most trouble with is resisting the temptation to ALWAYS call girls out for their behavior or risking looking angry, butthurt etc.

    There is a time to blow up but it has to be strategic and it has to be done quickly, ruthlessly and then disappear.

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    • on January 31, 2015 at 5:20 am Culum Struan

      @Walawala – yeah I’m working on this balance too. I think it just takes experience. I’m erring more towards ignoring or responding with LOL than actually calling them out on stuff.

      I’m also trying to practice “not replying to every text” when I have a few girls who are into me enough that they regularly initiate texts..don’t want to lose the tingles so to speak

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    • on January 31, 2015 at 6:22 am Sentient

      Excellent point wala. This is outcome independence on action. Oi can also be viewed as abundance mentality, you can BE OI in your interaction because you are not needy. This is not just in regard to sex. You are not needy for anything, companionship, affirmation, validation, things to do, places to go, people to see etc.

      In a LTR especially marriage with kids many guys end up living in their wives worlds. Your friends become mostly parents of your kids classmates because your wife spends a lot of time with other moms. Or you spend a lot of time around her family. You give up most of your hobbies and interest due to work and weekends spent on house stuff. Your single buddies they all fall away. You end up an orbiter in your relationship and orbiters are guys without options. Guys without options get friendzoned. Guys WITH options get tucked. The cat rarely plays with the string that’s just laying there, its not until it gets pulled away that it chases.

      Somettimes the best thing to do is invite her to do something and if she hammers, tries to bargain or says no don’t say anything furrther just go do it. It could be as simple as going for a drive or to the store or doing a hobby in your garage. The key is you are away and she is not with you. This sets her up for the mini death, the take away of your presence. If she has any glimmer of feeling for you or even if she is just so fullof herself, it will hit its mark and she will feel a disturbance in the force. An ebbing of her allure and this is usually rectified by sex. Curious creatures women. Cats are not like dogs.

      Of course actually being passionate dynamic and authentic means you always have things to do that you love and interest you so every thing then becomes beyond game. You are just living your life, and she will know she is lucky to be a part of it.

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  35. on January 31, 2015 at 3:17 am Daily Linkage – January 31, 2015 | The Dark Enlightenment

    […] Asshole Game Week: The Relationship Reset | Chateau Heartiste […]

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  36. on January 31, 2015 at 6:08 am gurshar1

    It’s unreal how well asshole game works. It’s also unreal how transparent shit tests are with game knowledge.

    I write a message to a chick on a dating site. No reply. I write another one, this time accusing her of being a fake account. Like clockwork, she replies.

    Her: Yeah, you got me, I’m a guy who lures boys into his cave and ties em up.

    Me: don’t worry, I’m heteroflexible. 😉 #(Agree and Amplify)

    Me: as long as you don’t give me an STD, we’re all set. #(qualification, A&A further)

    Me: You’re clean, right?

    Her: nah, not much, only AIDS #(test #2)

    Me: lol, now I know you like it up the butt #(don’t know what this counts as. Probably as what Ch was talking about last post)

    Her: not at all!

    Me: Yeah right. Reading your answers, there’s nothing I wouldn’t expect from you. #(she is a pure fuckslut)

    Her: I just like rough sex and being submissive that’s all. I won’t do EVERYTHING.

    I suggest that she becomes my slave. She asks me to describe. I mention things like slapping her, making her suck my balls or making me food and sucking me off while I eat.

    Her: sorry, that’s not for me, it’s just sexist machismo. #(are you fucking kidding me? YOU answered that you like to get slapped or bitten until her skin breaks. Cheap shit test.)

    Me: don’t blow smoke up my ass. I know your kind.

    Her: really? You think I’d like that? 😀

    Me: yes

    her: I dunno. I like liberty, I’ve been fighting all my life for my rights as a woman. I don’t like an oppressive man. 😉 #(…..did I mention shit test?)

    Me: You can play feminist in public, I actually prefer independent women #(hey put out more quickly)

    Me: But in the bedroom, I make the rules.

    Her: I like 🙂

    Resistence: smashed to smithereens.

    I am especially fond of the opener. Girls are so narcissistic, a person denying their existence is unbearable for them. They have to scratch that itch.

    Also look at the preposterous shit tests administered. Lol. Can you imagine John Q. Beta passing through? he would apologize for suggesting that a self admitting submissive freak in bed is just that. More evidence, as if needed, that sluts aren’t as easy peasy as many say.

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    • on January 31, 2015 at 7:04 am Captain Obvious

      GS1, that chick actually sounds strangely intriguing. Beware of developing feelings for her. Although if you were to develop feelings [and start thinking LTR], then she almost sounds de-programmable, as though you could Truth-Talk her out of all the Oscar Mayer Wiener Academy lies which have piled up inside that little skull of hers. Which is why I say that she sounds strangely intriguing. Just force yourself to keep holding an imperturbable Inner Frame if you do find yourself developing feelings.

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      • on January 31, 2015 at 7:18 am Captain Obvious

        In terms of Evo-Psych, and the biological affecting the psychological, when you meet her in person, in ascending order: 3) Beware if she has really good skin, 2) Be doubly wary if she has a lovely voice, and 1) Be triply wary if she smells really really nice. Because it sounds like the two of you already have some chemistry developing…

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      • on January 31, 2015 at 7:53 am gurshar1

        I highly doubt that actually. Based on what I have seen, she has The DarknessTM. It’s just that she isn’t from America and the sluts here are just not as caustic as the ones in USA.

        I also have somebody else in mind who actually IS sweet and has chemistry with me. She is nothing like this slut. But I agree that this particular one seems charming compared to the husks that walk the earth over there.

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      • on January 31, 2015 at 9:34 am Captain Obvious

        Just reading that text exchange between the two of you as it unfolded, it was like watching a ballroom dance – you were leading her and she was following you and I got the unmistakable sense that she WANTED to follow you.

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      • on January 31, 2015 at 9:43 am Captain Obvious

        Kind of ironic that I chose the tango from “Scent of a Woman” right after I was warning you to be especially wary of the ones who smell the best. You get that scent in your nostrils and it will fuck with your Reptilian Brain Stem and your ass is gonna go “straight” into Neanderthal mode.

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  37. on January 31, 2015 at 8:02 am Anonymous

    1. Dress a little nicer than usual. Tell your wife you’re going to run an errand. If she asks why you’re dressed so nice either pretend to not hear her and walk away or feign baffled ignorance and leave. Then go run your errands. Expect a softened your wife to be soft but very watchful when you return. Give her non committal replies to any questions. If she brings it up that evening, tell her with exasperation, “Geez, I bought some nails at Ace. What is it with you?”. You are now a mystery man who she can trust.

    2. If you have a penny pinching wife, spend some large sum of money on a hobby. I did that. My wife exploded – and I shruvged her off – when she saw it on the credit card bill two weeks later. Of course I hadn’t tell her I had bought it. The next day she was very soft to me, constantly studying my face, made my coffee, etc. I think my actions subconsciously told her I was a bit uncontrollable. It also told her I believed that I make enough to easily pay for my hobby and my actions ironically reassured her that she picked a good provider. Uncontrollability and an ability to provide makes for a content wife.

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  38. on January 31, 2015 at 8:05 am Eliezer Ben Yehuda

    OT. EBY predicts the Next Big Thing in SJW “advocacy”….

    Abolition of the Grand Jury.

    A few hours googlie’ng will reveal, what an advance in justice and human rights, the Grand Jury was. Many men died to allow you to have Grand Juriors in charge of indictments.

    PS: GJ’s are ===autonomous=== and have zero obligations to listen to a Judicial Officer or Executive Officer. Anyone is allowed to swear out an affidavit, and send it to the Foreman of the Sitting Grand Jury in a jurisdiction.

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    • on January 31, 2015 at 8:32 am gurshar1

      Yuropoors look at the US justice system in confusion. Allowing laymen to decide about the fates of defendants? Lol.

      I know the benefits of the Jruy system, but I also know why one would find it strange.

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    • on January 31, 2015 at 8:52 am I Know Grand Juries

      No, I as the prosecutor absolutely control what goes into the Grand Jury. No one gets in there unless I want them to. The Grand Jury is a check and balance on my power, nothing more.

      Citizens can already go to the magistrate in my state and “swear our warrants” against other citizens with absolutely no police involvement. I do not have time to tell you what a huge mess that makes. I can tell you it results very quickly in women getting their husbands locked up in jail quickly.

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      • on January 31, 2015 at 8:05 pm Eliezer Ben Yehuda

        >> No one gets in there unless I want them to

        Probably true, but only because of public ignorance and apathy. That statement is a confession to several indictable offenses. Watch your back.

        I comprehend that you think you’re safe from justice…. but so did all the wingnuts who are now under the public spotlight for destroying “herd immunity” to measles and other contagious diseases. It’s only a matter of time till one or more of them receives mob justice.

        Watch your back, shipmate. Jury Nullification will be your downfall.

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      • on February 1, 2015 at 1:20 am ho

        Pro vaxxers are insane. Do you even know how ridiculous the US vaccination schedule is? People like you deserve castration.

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    • on January 31, 2015 at 1:39 pm Anonymous

      Correct. Ferguson. Grand juries get it right. It’s ibvious why antiwhite racists want to eliminate it. If the grand jury dies we are truly not free. That’s soviet Russia time. All powerful government makes people like heartiste disappear for exercising speech.

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    • on February 1, 2015 at 11:53 am Arbiter

      A White man is attacked by a Black in the street, the case goes to court. No luck! The area is mostly Black, so the jury will be dominated by his racial kin who will never let him be convicted. Instead the White man risks being thrown in jail for assault.

      In other cases, juries hold out for a “CSI ending”, because somehow, maybe, someone could have … tampered with the evidence! Set up a conspiracy! There could be lots of people involved! Because they have seen that on teevee, and they have a two-digit IQ.

      In another case they convict the guy because they don’t like the way he looks, and they don’t like his political beliefs. The prosecutor plays on their feelings and they answer like puppets on strings.

      Juries are a farce. A typical example of how the FFs thought that everyone would be a well-read genius once you took away kings and nobles. The masses would all be intellectuals. Yes, sure they would.

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  39. on January 31, 2015 at 9:17 am Soft censorship – Amerika: New Right, Conservationist, Traditionalist, Deep Ecology and Conservative Thought

    […] can see the effects of soft censorship above. An outspoken men’s rights blogger, Heartiste, is now categorized as a “dangerous” site through search engine DuckDuckGo’s […]

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    • on January 31, 2015 at 5:36 pm Putin

      Yeh, it is just a matter of time before “they” shut it down. You can’t have this type of information get into the public domain.

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  40. on January 31, 2015 at 10:16 am Putin

    Question for CH.

    Where does a daughter get her cues from? It seems to be the mother. Crazy mom=crazy daughter. Slutty mom=slutty daughter. Disrespectful mom=disrespectful daughter.

    It seems that a dad has less impact than he thinks when it comes to raising a respectful and chaste daughter.

    What is everyone’s thoughts on this?

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    • on January 31, 2015 at 10:32 am Sentient

      It all comes back to what a father will allow. A wife is just an adult sized child. Treat them both the same.

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      • on January 31, 2015 at 10:53 am Captain Obvious

        > “A wife is just an adult sized child.”

        So much TRUTH in this simple eight word sentence. To a certain extent it even applies to Moms and Grandmas and Aunts and Great Aunts etc etc etc.

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      • on January 31, 2015 at 5:19 pm Putin

        Sentient, So how your wife acts is how the daughter will act. And how your wife acts is a result of how you treat/handle her. So how you manage your wife directly effects your daughter because she will act out how her mother behaves. Would this be a fair overview?

        So if the daughter is showing disrespect how do you deal with that? Punish the mom? And most men like their wives to act like sluts in the marriage so you want your daughter to act like a slut before marriage?

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      • on February 1, 2015 at 4:35 am Culum Struan

        LOL@Sentient

        You have a gift for the pithy description.

        Like this whole “dynamic, passionate, authentic” trifecta. You should give it a name..”The Three Pillars of Alpha” or something..

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      • on February 1, 2015 at 7:00 am Captain Obvious

        Putin, you’re gonna be juggling all of them – wife, daughters, mother, mother-in-law, sisters-in-law, aunts, grandmas, great aunts – ALL OF THEM. Think of it as spinning plates, only you are [largely] spinning them all asexually [although the old ladies love Love LOVE the naughty gossip about adultery and secret bastardy and whatnot]. My experience would be [with all of them]: NEVER BACK DOWN IN A FIGHT [first and foremost], and then during the quieter times, when you aren’t fighting, gently work them logically through the Evo-Psych so that they can understand where you’re coming from. My experience is that chicks LOVE to hear you analyze events via Evo-Psych, especially if it involves third parties.

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      • on February 1, 2015 at 7:06 am Captain Obvious

        EVO-PSYCH ON WIFE: “Your friend’s husband had better man up and grow a pair and quit being such a wimp or else she’s gonna get bored with him and take on a lover. In fact, it wouldn’t surprise me if she’s already seeing someone on the side.”

        EVO-PSYCH ON DAUGHTER: “That girl at the swimming pool today – she’s gonna be real trouble down the road. It will start with maybe her asking you to shoplift something from the mall, and then it will progress to maybe her wanting the two of you to go meet some boys who have alcohol with them, etc etc etc. That girl is BAD NEWS. I know her type and I do not trust her. Watch your back around her.”

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      • on February 1, 2015 at 8:53 am Sentient

        @ Putin

        “Sentient, So how your wife acts is how the daughter will act. And how your wife acts is a result of how you treat/handle her. So how you manage your wife directly effects your daughter because she will act out how her mother behaves. Would this be a fair overview?

        Yes. If your wife gets away with murder, your daughter knows you are weak. Also your wife is more apt to then side with a misbehaving daughter because she won’t want any sanctions on or allegations of hypocrisy (from the daughter) regarding her behavior.

        So if the daughter is showing disrespect how do you deal with that? Punish the mom?”

        You deal with disrespect by imposing sanctions and consequences. You avoid disrespect by establishing limits. Remember, your wife is an adult sized child, what do children do? They seek limits, they test for limits, they sniff out bullshit and weakness and they RESPOND WELL to finding limits. Limits means they are safe, someone is in charge, someone is leading. If you are all hallow threats without consequences they run amok. If you come down as you said you would every single time without fail, they develop respect. Women and children want to be led and have no responsibility.

        (BTW – if you are ever out with your wife (or even without) and you run into someone who asks whether you have any kids and their ages, lead with “well let’s see, I have a 47 YO girl, a 22 YO girl, a 17 YO boy” etc. it’s very funny when the light goes on and they realize you mean your wife)

        “And most men like their wives to act like sluts in the marriage so you want your daughter to act like a slut before marriage?

        Nooooo. Establish boundaries on your daughters, regarding dating, curfews, dress, friends etc. They want boundaries, despite all the crying and fussing over it. Your wife is your slut in private, your girls will see her as a matriarch, not a slut. Train them, just like a dog.

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      • on February 2, 2015 at 4:24 pm Putin

        Sentient, thanks for the detailed answers.

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  41. on January 31, 2015 at 11:04 am martin

    I’ve been reading some of amanda marcotte’s advice for men on women. I do not intend to create a disturbance here and I am doing it more to see what the hostile enemy is saying than actually as advice. There is something the feminists have in common with blogs like this, both argue that the same male characteristics are unattractive, namely strange desperate acts done in a longing way. The feminists just take one small example of a crazy person in a club doing something unattractive and extrapolate that to all men under the idea of patriarchy. It seems to me the feminists don’t actually have any experience with attractive men because they only harp about unattractive things men do and seem to believe all men are guilty of them. That might be why their advice is so useless. For example, they think you should not talk to women unless they first give you some sign you are welcome. That advice, being predominant would scare many men I think but would anyone tell you not to apply to a job unless you received a signal to apply first? No one can predict the future, so that particular bit of advice needs to be excised from the media and male psyche.

    [CH: ugly hatchet-faced feminists like amanjaw marcuntte only have experience with the unattractive behaviors of socially awkward loser men, so their perspective is skewed. higher value, socially savvy men with options would never stoop to hitting on fugs like marcuntte, unless it was a frat prank.]

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  42. on January 31, 2015 at 11:32 am blairnaso

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    • on February 2, 2015 at 8:16 am The Burninator

      Man oh man, right the fuck on. Red pill used to be the norm for “Joe Middleclass”. I am old enough to remember the remnants of these days, it was an entirely different universe back then that you young guys have no idea about. This shit was real. Love it man, great video blairnaso, thanks for a blast from the past.

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  43. on January 31, 2015 at 8:59 pm Kim du Toit

    I’ve been married over thirty years, with three wives (two ex-* and one current) and allow me to share just one word of wisdom.

    The first (VERY FIRST) warning that your wife/girlfriend is taking you for granted is when your first name turns into “Come Here!”

    Stamp that shit into the ground, and life will become easier.

    *I left both exes because I was unhappy and they weren’t living up to my ideal.

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  44. on February 1, 2015 at 5:55 pm Travelove

    If only I’d reached the manosphere before my 12-year relationship imploded!
    When things started to go south, probably because of my extreme betaness, I did the only rational thing to do: I threw more beta at it!

    Cue final 2 or 3 years of progressive withdrawal from my social life, constant nagging, sex once a month if I was lucky…

    I got tired of trying, and at the same time had the feeling she’d end it at some point… So I broke up. It should come as no surprise to the followers of this blog that she resisted it quite a bit.

    Not all is bad, as I’ve been enjoying the single life, and with the help of this and other blogs, working to shed my inner beta. I’ve multiplied my lifetime notch count by a factor of 5, and it’s been a riot. I’ve been integrating asshole into my game, can’t argue with the results when I can actually bring myself to do something that’s so contrary to my personality.

    But I’m kinda sad I didn’t get to try these reset tactics. Although now I tasted hot 24 y/o pussy again, I can’t fathom trying to win back my 34 y/o ex!

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  45. on February 2, 2015 at 6:09 am Anonymous

    I’ve got a problem with #4, it is very heroic but what the hell do you do when you come back. Chances are she won’t be softened by it. When a wife is specially insistent you can try to drive the conversation away but afeter the 3rd or 4th repetition of the question you have to answer something!

    Also, regarding the refusal to do something, when the thing is for your kids you are toast. “please bath the kids” you:”no, I have to prep their supper”, “well you could do both things, I’m very tired” and if you confront this it quickly becomes a contest about who has done more that day.

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    • on February 2, 2015 at 8:11 am Sentient

      “I’ve got a problem with #4, it is very heroic but what the hell do you do when you come back. Chances are she won’t be softened by it. “

      Couple things, a) it’s not exactly heroic to go do something else you’d rather do after you get turned down for sex and establish your own frame, it’s from a sad beta place that you would think so. Life can be so much better if you live in your own frame instead of someone else’s.

      b) first, who cares if she is softened by it, that’s not exactly why you do it. You do it to establish your own frame. You do it so you are not laying there with a boner and nothing to do like a beta boy. It’s a side benefit that it WILL in fact soften her.

      Fortune favors those who dare. Go be daring.

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    • on February 2, 2015 at 8:27 am Sentient

      what the hell do you do when you come back?

      You act like nothing is wrong or unusual. Be pleasant. SHE : Hamster Hamster Hamster Where WERE YOU!!!!!! You: Out. SHE : WhAT DID YOU WHO DID YOU WHAT!!!!! You< Yawn. sleepy now, want to go to bed. Goodnight. [yes i've done this and yes it works]

      or if she is more subtle… SHE: Oh your back. Where did you go? You: Went to the XXXX (bar or place with girls the best answer). SHE: Who was there? You: Usual crowd. SHE: Did you meet anyone? You: Couple of people. Night night.

      But really and this is what you need to get your head around, there is a much higher likelihood that she will be wet and ready when you get back. Cats are not dogs after all.

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    • on February 2, 2015 at 8:29 am Sentient

      you have to answer something!

      Yeah if she presses don’t lie, just tell her you were hanging at the bar, talked to whomever and tell her in a I don’t give a flying fuck what you think about it manner. You’re not trying to appease her.

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  46. on February 2, 2015 at 9:26 am Anonymous

    It is from a sad beta place that I’m speaking, yes. Going to a bar would be the most out of character thing to do, since I’ve never done it in 5 years. I don’t go to bars. Instilling dread in my relationship is difficult because of this. all my waking hours are accounted for, be it work or tasks at home.

    It will have to be subtly and slowly increasing my time off the radar or I’ll never be able to offset the status quo in a positive way. I’ve done the “I’m moving on” thing just to the very brink and the relationship nearly went down the drain. Being more considerate has put me in a better position, but still no sex. Must say she’s a SR5-6, I’m an 8 no joke. But psychologically she can run circles around me. Always gives a “reasonable” reason why I should comply, and can’t argue back. She knows too much.

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    • on February 2, 2015 at 10:25 am Sentient

      The MMSL forum is filled with thousands of guys who go 80% of the way, and a handful of guys who pushed it all the way. That handful is happy or single. It’s up to you.

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      • on February 2, 2015 at 4:16 pm Putin

        “The MMSL forum is filled with thousands of guys who go 80% of the way, and a handful of guys who pushed it all the way. That handful is happy or single. It’s up to you.”

        Nice.

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  47. on February 3, 2015 at 5:14 pm Benson

    “when she wants to have a BIG TALK ABOUT THE RELATIONSHIP and she says “I don’t like how you have been acting the last [fill in the blank]…”

    Out of curiosity, how do you distinguish beta bait like this from a comfort shit test, as explained in this post? https://heartiste.wordpress.com/2014/06/18/value-shit-tests-vs-comfort-shit-tests/

    It seems like a woman could drop either of the two on you at any point in a relationship and they seem easily mixed up.

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    • on February 5, 2015 at 2:19 pm Sentient

      @Benson

      Just saw this. You can get them mixed up, but it is easier to recover from a misdiagnosed loyalty test than a misdiagnosed shit test. so until you are sure, just treat it like a shit test. Tease, A&A, stomp, ignore… whatever fits the bill.

      If it is a real lack of beta and too much alpha she will come back with the loyalty test again and usually open up, get sad, get worried, get scared. A loyalty test at it’s core is she is afraid of losing you and want’s more comfort that YOU aren’t going anywhere.

      So when she raises her glass and wiggles it “I’m thirsty”, that is going to be a shit test 99% of the time. Sure she may like it if you waited on her, that might give her some comfort but more likely it’s just a show of dominance on her part.

      Loyalty tests have a lot more “please, I’m scared, do you still love me, find me pretty, etc.” to them.

      In the beginning of resetting your relationship, err on the side of treating like a shit test. Unless you are a biker ex con MMA dude with three girls she sees you hanging with all the time.

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    • on February 5, 2015 at 2:25 pm Sentient

      and if you have hand in the relationship,you can usually recover quickly on failed loyalty tests with a simple “hey babe, you’re my girl”… if she beams, passed a loyalty test… if she winces failed a shit test. sorry better luck next time!

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    • on February 5, 2015 at 2:32 pm Sentient

      Little scene from last night. In bed with wife 10PM. I roll over by her and start to tease her, she huffs and pushes me off. says something like “I don’t feel like I’m part of your life, (I had a guy stop buy for an hour and have a beer, of all things) like you care about me”

      Now I have been doing a shit ton of things for her the last 6 months and she damn well knows it. so I treat this as the beta bait shit test. “That’s a preposterous statement, you can’t believe that”… sometimes you don’t need to be clever, just not let her get away with BS statements. what you DO NOT do is get into justifying to her what you do or trotting out the thousand things you do for her, or logically try and convince her what she said was incorrect. So I just leave it at that, roll over and read. Go to sleep.

      This morning she wake sup, strips off her PJ’s and climbs on top of me without a word. she is pleasant all day. No mention of last night. Shit test. Shit test passed.

      #winning!

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      • on February 5, 2015 at 3:59 pm Benson

        So let me run this by you: when my ex called me and complained about my lack of communication, that was beta bait, because I tried to comfort her and it didn’t work. But earlier in the relationship when she openly told me she wanted to talk more, those were comfort tests.

        If so, I handled the beta bait like a comfort test and the comfort tests lIke shit tests.

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      • on February 5, 2015 at 4:30 pm Sentient

        Probably right. early in relationships if you display some alpha qualities you can get loyalty tests, especially if your SR is + hers (in her eyes).

        My wife said when we started dating she couldn’t believe someone like me was with someone like her (in a good way), classic loyalty/comfort test. but again, early in the relationship. 10 years on, when you hear “more romance, more housework for you” more likely shit tests.

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      • on February 5, 2015 at 5:58 pm Benson

        Interesting. I think I pushed the ashole routine too far, which made her suspicious and brought on the beta baiting.

        The marriage anecdotes are awesome. it’s amusing that we all share such similar experiences.

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      • on February 6, 2015 at 9:02 pm Benson

        “early in relationships if you display some alpha qualities you can get loyalty tests, especially if your SR is + hers. My wife said when we started dating she couldn’t believe someone like me was with someone like her (in a good way), classic loyalty/comfort test.”

        Yeah, I think you called it. I got a couple of shit tests early on, around the second date, which I easily passed, but she otherwise threw loyalty tests at me. In fact, I got the “I can’t believe we’re dating” one the first week. Overall, though, I failed too many, then I took the beta bait when she called me on it.

        Costly lesson.

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      • on February 6, 2015 at 9:57 pm Sentient

        Welcome to the club. Membership – nearly every man who has ever lived. Not very exclusive sadly.

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  48. on February 9, 2015 at 12:02 pm Niklas

    I ask my LTR for a glass of water when we’re watching TV, most days she complies.

    Overall, things are going pretty good.

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