Every so often a commenter drops a line that couldn’t be a more perfect execution of game in the field.
Walawala graces us with his latest:
The Red Pill realization I have is that despite their constant emotional outbursts and mercurial mood swings, if you understand that deep down inside women want you to “get it” and win them over…the rest of what they do is a smokescreen you have to wade through.
I re-opened a girl I banged mid last year. “Let’s meet up for drinks” I said.
“Seduce me” she replied.
“We’ll see” I said.
The Blue Pill [ed: aka beta] guy would say “OK”….where’s the fun for her in that?
“We’ll see”. No need for exorbitant wit. A simple two-word declaration of fuzzy intent is all it takes to pass the Jumbotron Test and, not coincidentally, the Tingle Test. Coolasfuck. That’s the man you want to be, because that’s the man women love.
Technical game discussion follows.
The reason “we’ll see” is so effective is the challenge implied by the statement. You are essentially disqualifying the girl. The chaser and chasee scripts have been flipped.
“We’ll see if you meet my standards and therefore inspire me to put some romantic effort into wooing you.”
From there, the girl silently translates this into the womanese:
“Who is this guy to be so cavalier about my value as a sexual object? He must be a winner. I like winners. Wooo, suddenly I’m feeling very juicy down below.”
There’s another reason the line “we’ll see” advances from a great one-off open-rift riff to coolasfuck poetry: The brevity. Women prefer curt cads.
[…] Coolasfuck Game Of The Day […]
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Off topic perhaps, but CH again proven correct:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25581229
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i haven’t bothered much with the SCIENCE posts lately because the constant stream of external validation gets boring after a while.
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That link is a goldmine of scientific validation of game, to anybody interested.
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Honestly, CH, that sounds like a great overconfident vainglorious line to deliver at the bar.
“I haven’t bothered with women lately because the constant stream of external validation gets boring after a while”
“I haven’t bothered with dick measuring contests lately because the constant stream of external validation gets boring after a while”
“I haven’t bothered with modeling competitions lately because the constant stream of external validation gets boring after a while”
Etc
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> “The brevity. Women prefer curt cads.”
It’s a shame that this point got buried way down at the end of the essay. Your IQ [and your general ability to grasp reality] is always going to be way higher [and more profound] than your woman’s [even if she’s an academic superstar – trust me on this] and you are always going to have to give her the watered down Cliff’s Notes wikipedia urbandictionary summary of anything that you try to explain to her. For the younger guys, who still do productive work, it even applies to your interactions with the suits in management – there’s an acquired skill in learning to tone down the wild-eyed enthusiasm and slowly reciting a two or three sentence synopsis of a 500 page technical paper.
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That is a beauty. One of my favorite things to say is “if you’re a good girl”.
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The men in my family say, “if you dont talk today”. If I asked if I can have something new the next day or something, they say of course if you let me have peace and dont talk today. (Not in a abusive way, though).
I think most men are like that naturaly, just the new generation have changed because of feminism most men dont think they can tell a woman to not talk, in this day.
That is kind of game, isnt it? If a woman asks for something and he says “yes, if you don’t talk”.
[CH: yes it’s a kind of game. it is a mutually beneficial transaction after all.]
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You can end almost anything in if you’re a good girl and make it better.
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Nothing beats :
‘Detox my Buttox’.
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The girls at the GasButtox Institute (GI) have been working hard and producing incredible results. They have innovated very novel musical instruments for my buttox to play, such as a clarinet and ergonomic harmonica.
Amy in particular has done great work at the GasButtox Institute. She placed a magnetic strip on her nose and vertically ran her nose up and down betwixt my buttox in a rapid, credit-card manner. She vigorously swiped her nose 87 times in total, to the delight of the packed audience. She paid the $5000 fee in full.
All of you should praise Amybuttox for her great work. She deserves a standing ovation and is the inaugural inductee in the GasButtox hall of fame.
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It’s more sporting to wait until Amy (or Lara) pipes in before you give ’em the business.
Still, most droll.
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amybuttox did get inducted into the gasbuttox hall of flame. that deserves a public announcement.
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Missed your window, dude. Would have been a perfect opportunity for a witty riposte in the form of “Greg Elliot tilted his nostrils at the appropriate angle to my buttox and received the following: Refining face mask, facial steam cleansing, gaseous aromatherapy…”
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manofmystery seems to be yet another troll who likes to project his homoerotic fantasies on others. :duckface
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“She vigorously swiped her nose 87 times in total, to the delight of the packed audience. She paid the $5000 fee in full.”
You cad, you charged me $43,500!
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You cad, you charged me $43,500!
That is correct.
– $5000 was just for that one detox. The same fee no matter how many swipes your nose makes.
– $38,500 is for the other tuition and fees for being an enrolled student at GasButtox Institute (GI).
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Now, I should point out the decimal error – you thought 87 x $5000 is $43,500, when in fact it would be $435,000.
That is why I love women… they dispense with the unglamorous details like mathematics and get right down to the important business of the detox.
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Zero, schmero. I’m just proud I could do the 87×5 in my head!
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Just when one thought it couldn’t get any funnier, GB tops even himself.
Well-played, sir… well-played, indeed.
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“Now, I should point out the decimal error – you thought 87 x $5000 is $43,500, when in fact it would be $435,000.
That is why I love women… they dispense with the unglamorous details like mathematics and get right down to the important business of the detox.”
I was wondering……
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She: “Seduce me.”
Me: “My turn to play hard to get.”
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@ GasButtox
She deserves a standing ovation
I give her a sitting flatulation.
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I like it.
“Wait, are you trying to get in my pants?” often works for me in playful response to a girl who is being extra nice, flirtatious, or showing some interest.
It makes them laugh or blush, and gets them thinking about sex.
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I think “nah” would have been an even better response.
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nope. “we’ll see” is the carrot held just out of reach. it’s perfect.
“nah” is better than “ok,” but fails to communicate both the chase aspect women love and the coolasfuck persona women chase in a way that “we’ll see” hits masterfully.
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I woulda said… “Depends on how hot you’re gonna look!” or “Seems like a lot of work!” I prefer qualifying through banter over being dismissive when it’s with a girl I had already been with. There’s plenty of time for that once she’s back in. I usually don’t need much hard-core game if I’m re-initiating.
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One thing that is ubiquitous in Russians is the word “perhaps” you ask them anything and the answer is a bloody “perhaps”. A one little beautiful word once you know where to use it.
On another note the while act of sex is about domination and being dominated. If you can’t dominate outside of bedroom :beta/ you can’t dominate in bed.
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I think the perhaps is a typical Eastern European thing. Maybe that’s why nobody gets shit done around here. 😛
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i’d initially have gone with “maybe,” but something about “we’ll see” actively shifts the burden onto the girl to prove herself worthy of seduction. well-played. the best game often resembles haiku in brevity and beauty.
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+1
I, too, thought “maybe” also works but you’re spot on why “we’ll see” is the better choice.
Good analysis.
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I’d like to dedicate last night’s Patriots Super Bowl win to the manosphere’s biggest fan of black athletes, Whiskey. We all know his religious belief that white men simply aren’t good enough to play positions like wide receiver in the NFL, let alone win the championship.
How great was it to see three HUGE strikes against his dogma of black athletic superiority: Gronkowski: TD. Amendola: TD. Edelman: Game winning TD.
The last time 3 different white players (non-QBs) on one team scored a TD in a Super Bowl? Who knows, probably decades.
What a great inspirational legacy for young white boys who dream of playing in the NFL some day! In 2015, after decades of anti-white male animosity, and religious like belief from the Whiskey’s of the world, coaches and recruiters who overtly ignore white players for offensive skill positions…white players caught most of the balls and scored most of the points in the most watched Super Bowl ever, for all the world to see.
http://www.bostonherald.com/sites/default/files/styles/full/public/media/2015/02/01/020115patsnl44.jpg?itok=lIXSzOiv&c=e8685f61cb832f964df35a2c87e18576
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It was a great game.
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at the precise moment of that last second goal-line interception, one could almost hear the snap of a million white leftoids’ hearts breaking in unison for their beloved black QB totem.
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no only about Russell. Did y’all notice that when the Pats have the ball they have 8 or 9 white players? The entire offensive line, Brady, and the two little WR/RBs, Edelman and Amandola, and Gronk. It is always at least 8 on any given play, with Edelman and Amandola subbing for each other.
THey have done this for years. It is partly why they win. As explained in “White Men Can’t Jump,” white guys play to win and black guys play to look cool and look like they are too cool to try. THe latest fad in the NFL is every black WR now tries to make one handed catches when doing so is not necessary.
It was the same when the Colts and Manning were dominating–entire O line was white.
but back to Pats: of course you will never see any MSM commentary along these lines, noticing.
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@l82dagame
Ha ha ha. Think of every little pwnage of an obviously-blacker team by an obviously-whiter team as a free psyops for our side.
at the precise moment of that last second goal-line interception, one could almost hear the snap of a million white leftoids’ hearts breaking in unison for their beloved black QB totem.
And then there was that little chimpout on the next play just afterwards. TNB, y’all.
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too bad it wasnt Packers V Patriots – White Supremacy VS White Pride
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The fight at the end was great too.
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The most complicated positions (QB, OL) are dominated by whites, as are the positions where the player must perform alone, often taking the entire fate of the game on his shoulders (punters, kickers). Quick thinking and coolness under pressure. The great Steve Sailer talks about this.
The interchangeable, raw athletic positions — boxers, basketball players, cornerbacks — are left for the swarthy as beneath us. Whites in this country have better options for glory, within sport and without.
“White men can’t jump” was a funny canard we allowed to prevail out of noblesse oblige. They take it seriously.
N.B.: Of course Jesus was involved as well. Angels carried Jonathan Edwards to record lengths because of his devout Christianity. In hoc signo vinces.
Matt
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N.B.: Of course Jesus was involved as well. Angels carried Jonathan Edwards to record lengths because of his devout Christianity. In hoc signo vinces.
Wow. Just wow. You can be sure Matty is dumb enough to believe this, too.
So every time a nig wins, it’s the Jewish tribal god Yahweh who is behind it? Every time a crime is committed, Yahweh is behind it? Or is it only when something YOU want to happen that Yahweh is responsible, and he refuses to intervene when, say, a nine-year-old girl is raped to death by an African gang?
So you praise your little fantasy creature … why, exactly? “Because he let someone do something with a ball!” Talk about selective thinking. Ignoring any time the fantasy creature either is behind crimes, or allows them to happen. Supposedly this creature can and do interfere with the physical world, but it chooses not to when truly bad acts are committed.
And Matty can’t drug himself enough on the thought that this creature is on his side, and helps someone with a ball.
What if Jonathan Edwards has religious views that oppose yours? As he probably has. Christians always contradict each other, and attack each other over religion, it never ends. If Yahweh helped him, doesn’t that mean Yahweh prefers his beliefs to Matty’s? Yes, it does. Matty better pick up a pen and write to Edwards, begging him to tell Matty what to think, or Matty is going to hell to be buttfucked forever. Actually that might be right up his alley.
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“The interchangeable, raw athletic positions — boxers, basketball players,”
…….
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More concerned a white coach like Carroll would make such a dumb call and NOT run his black beast in. Of course then your “triumph” would be ruined by an all black team. There was a reason though Massa wasn’t out in the fields, use your bucks.
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it was a bad call, but more relevantly, seattle wouldn’t have been in a position to run in a one-yard TD if on the previous play their receiver hadn’t gotten incredibly lucky to have a batted pass just happen to land on his numbers instead of hitting the ground.
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Speaking of libs’ broken hearts, should Seahawks have won, the miraculous catch would have been even more affirming to the black-QB worshipping lib than if it were a normal skill-based reception. The reason is not as paradoxical as it seems. We’re all magic-thinkers to some extent — libs more so than others — and therefore an ‘act of god’ lucky break would have given the victory a Providential seal, like it was destiny, right side of history sort of thing.
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yes. to broaden the lesson, “changing hearts and minds” is more myth than possibility. that’s why lampposts and rope were invented!
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Darrell Bevell made the call, not Carroll. Lynch was terrible at goal line rushes. He made something like one out of five the entire year. It was bad execution more than it was the call, though Cris Collinsworth’s whining at the end set the tone for the controversy.
That said, they should’ve called a play-action bootleg. The C-Hox had a time out and 30 seconds to do something creative on second down. Wrong “black beast”: let Nipsy Russell Wilson make a play with his feet, it’s what got them there. Instruct the dapper scampering halfrican to use the white side of his brain, look for the open receiver, or shuffle on in.
Matt
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It would be interesting to see if Carroll was hoping to pad somebody’s stat with a passing TD.
A more generic theory for the WTF call was that he was hoping to loosen up the line defense and “at worst” have the play be an incomplete pass.
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Worst call ever.
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I thought that as well. Similar to Ravens vs Niners and they call three fades when they have a running QB and a great RB that can punch it in. In this case, I figured Harbaugh wanted his Montana moment to win the game via a passing TD. Living too vicariously through his players on that one.
Ever since Joe Cool did it back in Super Bowl 23, I can’t think of a better play to win the game. I even like that better than Rofl-burger’s TD to win versus ‘Zona.
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This just isn’t how pro football works. They don’t look at the field and think “what is the best play” according to a fuckin fan. They have a chart of situation/down/distance/field position and they have preplanned the plays they intend to use from there. SEA’s gameplan called for passes from that position, and they had successfully used them all game long.
Butler just made a great read probably from studying tape. He knew the pick would lead the WR under for the slant and he jumped the route. SEA knew from studying tape that they had favorable advantages against NE on the goalline from shotgun spread sets.
This is why these things happened the way they did. Good gameplanning puts players in positions where they appear to have magic abilities.
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Just to throw it out there (pun), one other possible reason for the bizarre offensive call: Vegas.
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Well, glad you all enjoyed the game. Though for myself, I have absolute zero interest in watching grown men playing with a little ball. Oh, games can be fun – when you play them yourself. Watching others play, why would I do that? They aren’t even related to me, I don’t know them. And never, ever is a game “important”, whether it’s a game of checkers on your computer or a game of ball on grass somewhere. People just cling to games and pretend they are important because they need something easy to talk about at lunch breaks at work, and they are too dumb and too lazy to read about actual important things.
And then we have the ridiculous issue of a soccer team “representing” a country, and “oh look, there are immigrants in the team, nyah nyah!” Because every professional soccer team in the higher leagues HAS to include non-Whites. Regardless, how do they “represent” me? And the endless discussions of: if a team buys a player from another team, does “our” team really “represent” us with a bought player who doesn’t even live here? Children. Children’s discussion.
Pick eleven people in the street at random. Do they “represent” you? No? Even though they live in the same town? Even though they are actually walking the same streets as you, far closer than those in the national team are to you? If they don’t represent you, how can you feel tied to the “national team” with some guys you’ve never met? Oh, but they are on teevee. Your beloved goddamn teevee, your modern god. Why does that matter? Because those on teevee say so. They say what’s on teevee is important to you. And you see them and hear their voices in your livingroom, so they must be right. They’re practically family!
And people wonder why things are screwed up today.
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Calm your tits, Orbiter. Everything does not reduce to geopolitical conspiracy for you to alarmingly shit your short-pants over. You betray your leftist personality by insisting, as they do, that “the personal is the political.”
Sport is the last place where merit even somewhat prevails, and until recently, was unapologetically masculine. It’s a fucking pastime. And the fact that you are alienated from the two manliest cultures yet remaining — the military and athletics — says everything about your late-blooming attempt to catch up with manhood. No wonder you niggle over every little thing and explode upon contact. Work on your sense of humor. Lightness. Our host would call it being aloof.
Praise Jesus.
Matt
P.S. If you’re going to presume to correct a superior, double check yourself, and then check again. Then lay aside your baseless self-regard, and check one last time.
http://french.about.com/od/grammar/a/adjectives_fickle.htm
Imbécile.
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Aw, poor little fanatic, how I have hurt you.
Calm your tits, Orbiter.
Wow, what a retard. It’s spelled “Arbiter”. You think that’s an insult, but you don’t understand the choice of name – the difference between an arbiter who decides, and an orbiter who waits for a decision, is the difference between A and O, Alpha and Omega. Do you understand now? Good.
Everything does not reduce to geopolitical conspiracy
Where did I talk about a (hah) “geopolitical conspiracy”? Keep your lies to yourself.
You betray your leftist personality by insisting, as they do, that “the personal is the political.”
Oh, I’m a leftist now? Nice try. You have no arguments at all when you type out something, other than sniveling about your precious religious fanaticism. You can’t understand even half of the conservative ideology that is discussed here, you can’t take part in the discussions, and then you call me a “leftist”. Hah!
Sport is the last place where merit even somewhat prevails, and until recently, was unapologetically masculine.
That shows you have no life experience. You’re like any dumb fuck in a warehouse at lunch break – you think all that exists in the world is what you see on your teevee. Since you only see sports, then “Sport is the last place with merit!”
So all the other areas where merit matters – you don’t know about them. Incredible. You’re even dumber than I thought.
And the fact that you are alienated from the two manliest cultures yet remaining — the military and athletics
Um, no. Like many others here I have written about working out, which is something I’m very sure you are far removed from. And you have revealed yourself to be a neocon lover. Jew lovers are anti-White. Disgusting.
“alienated” from military? Hah, funny. If you only knew. But a dumb neocon lover like you of course thinks that the US of AAA! has the only military in the world, and the neocon goals are the only goals for a military. So to oppose what they do is to oppose having a military, right? Nice try.
You lie and equate neocons with the Right – and with the military. Not surprising since Jewish neocon sources are where you get your twisted worldview.
“Praise Jesus.” LOL Religious hypocrite, who acts like a little child when called out on his bullshit. It’s always hilarious to see how anti-Jesus the supposed Jesus lovers really are. Your hypocrisy is shown every time you attack Rollo Tomassi, Vox, CH or others for not being fanatics like you, insulting them. Would Jesus do that? Like many other failures you are only hiding behind religion to have something to brag about, but you don’t actually follow whatever morality it teaches.
Perfect. You’re a great example of Jew-loving religious retards.
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“P.S. If you’re going to presume to correct a superior,”
Aww, boo-hoo, how little Matty must have cried. Other posters say what they want to say and then start again in the next thread. But you, like a little child, can’t leave anything. And you pretend you speak French? Fucking retard, you don’t know shit about the world. And you are even too lazy to write out what you want to say, instead posting links to hide behind. Congratulations, you just became my favorite target. You have only yourself to blame.
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Soccer? Dude, the name of the sport is football!
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The Flats win! Long live the Deflatriots!
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A weird thing that we’re seeing down here in sub-Mason-Dixon Bible-Belt country is that the nogs also love Love LOVE them some Patriots. Grass is always Greener syndrome? Also YKW -vs- Shkotzim: Yid Kraft with white employees versus Goyische Kopf Allen with nog employees. And tons of Stanford U quota hires. Weird shiznat. YKW angle definitely lets Kraft get away with shiznat which is forbidden to Shkotzim [compare Sephardic conman Marc Cuban and his shegetz n*a*z*i darling, Dirk Nowitzki].
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“We’ll see” is indeed a good response. Sometimes you see people write, “You have to keep so much in your head to follow all the PUA advice”. But how much do you have to keep in your head to drive a car? Or just to ride a bike? Or to write? You learn and practice and incorporate it naturally. And it all becomes part of your style effortlessly in the end.
Just recently I was at a café with a girl. She had her elbows on the small table between us as she held her cup in both hands and leaned closer to me, and I did the same, as we had both just sat down with the coffee and were warming our hands. But then I thought, this is too close, so I leaned back in my chair for a while. I think years ago I would have kept leaning forward the whole time, thinking that as close as possible for as long as possible is good. Now I remember countless little pieces of advice and incorporate them in my own style. Each little piece is not so important, but together they form a tapestry of tantalization.
CH links to an earlier post that links to a Mail Online story: “Strong, silent types DO get the girl: Men who use fewer, shorter words are seen as more manly and attractive”. The basic stuff we often forget because it’s so obvious, but for many young guys it isn’t obvious until it’s spelled out. For many a small dose of PUA/Manosphere goes a long way in telling them what they need to change. Being a man of few words also works on other men: the one who speaks less is viewed as more intelligent by all. As long as what he does say doesn’t ruin the impression.
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I like “we’ll see” too. It’s good to have all-purpose go-to lines like that in one’s mind.
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Another thing that I use often is taking a girl to a particular store on a first date. This store sells things for the home like scented candles, vintage posters, drinking games, large teacups with mottos, wide armchairs in neon colors, wooden boxes for the kitchen that are made to look old. Chicks love it. Better to spend half the date there than to go straight to sit down somewhere.
On a later date I sometimes take a girl to a baby store, saying I want to buy something for my cousin’s baby or the like. She’ll swoon over all the plushies and baby toys and tiny clothes. If it’s in the winter I say I am looking for a particular kind of summer hat, which they don’t start selling until later in the year, so I don’t have to buy anything. But she’ll come out of the store all warm and fuzzy inside. She’ll start thinking about her future and how important it is to start a relationship.
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All purpose attitude even better.
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All purpose attitude even better.
Well, that’s common online: “You don’t need all that, here’s the win-all solution.” People are always looking for that one thing that does away with the details.
But doing pickup means there will be many things people think of. Many practical things, big and small. This is something PUA forums generally do better, handing out specific and practical advice. While the manosphere is better at describing the general frame. Which is also good. But sometimes people need to hear the practical, detailed advice too. An example of which is exactly what CH showed in his OP.
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My buddy would always say that whomever talks the most is usually the most insecure; their nervousness was the reason for their chattiness. Any and all silence is uncomfortable for them. I’ve noticed this about a co-worker. Doesn’t help he’s loud, too. Then I read this Plato quote:
“Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something.”
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Dead men tell no tales
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lol your politics comments are pretty good, but when you start to divulge details of your dating life, you come off as a quite nerdy beta baby boomer.
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For telling details – sure. Most people are too cowardly to give out any details. Most people here probably do zero pickup, so I don’t really care about them. What is the worth of your posts if you say nothing that will ever make you look like you made a mistake somewhere? Then you are not being honest, and what is dishonesty worth?
It’s like Mike Cernovich at Danger & Play writes: he doesn’t reply to emails where guys ask him to look at their website, because the websites are always the same: “some cool pictures of yourself in sunglasses, some link about biceps, some old PUA comment”. He says, if you aren’t writing something that makes you hesitate to click the button, something that might embarrass you, then what’s the point? What can you bring then that hasn’t been said a thousand times before? Go out on a limb, show some honesty, show that you actually do pickup in the real world, which will never be a cool and perfect story without mistakes. If I hear of how great and flawless someone’s style is, and how he never has to think of any details, then I know he’s full of bullshit.
[CH: if anything can be learned from the past few years of SJWville, it’s that realtalker anonymity is a worthy and sensible pursuit.]
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Agreed on all fronts, especially your first point. Game is, as I said in a recent post, something which is practiced and lived more than studied.
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Excellent point Arb. And great initial meet ideas. In the US that store is Anthropology. Easy way to set a meet, not the same old same old to start off with, lowers a s d, opens up great channels of emotion to mine later and build rapport over and easy to segue to “let’s grab a drink at xxx nearby”.
I like. Guys who don’t don’t go out with girls.
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Personal question- what do guys think of super long hair? Like hair down past a girls butt. Maybe down to the middle of her thighs. Is that sexy? Weird? Does it make her look like she is a dork into fantasy or something? Is it no better than hair down to the middle of the back? How long is the perfect long for hair?
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depends on shaft quality. (heh)
i would say long hair starts to look weird once it falls past the ass bottom crescent.
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Second that
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Thanks. Mine isn’t exceptionally long. Just to the top of my butt. It occurred to me that it wasn’t much effort or time to grow and that if I let it grow another two years it would be to the top of my thighs. It is hard to comb now though. I don’t love taking care of this all, but forest nymph look would kinda be cool.
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Off the top of your butt is exceptionally long. Anything more flirts with circus freak territory, but in these sorry days of the mandatory, peak-beauty pixie cut, I’ll take it.
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You are all insane. A woman’s hair can never be too long.
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It is so rare, so dating a girl with hair like that would be fascinating. It is hard to even think of how attractive that would look on a particular girl since you almost never see it.
Now that I think of it I did date a girl with hair reaching her thighs, a long time ago. She was a very petite girl too. Looked like a forest nymph with that hair, with a soft and light voice because of her small size. It was charming. The hair tends to get in the way in bed, though.
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Also, show us a pic of the hair in question
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like this?
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That long hair is fascinating in the beginning, like I said … but I have seen girls cut overtly long hair and look better afterward. When it is shorter it moves more, which makes it look livelier. The hair in that picture is too far down over the thighs I think, it wouldn’t move the right way, wouldn’t give off the signal of something lively and healthy.
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“like this?”
More like this.
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Makes her look extremely submissive.
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My massage therapist (legit) would always wear her hair up and one time I saw her with it down, quite long, stopped right at the top of her buttox, just below the lower back. When she was ready for me, I saw her and she was so amazingly beautiful; it was like letting her hair down gave her a solid point up in attractiveness. I asked her about it, how she does a good job of putting it up and she sheepishly added, “Yeah, it’s cool.”
Then, the next time I went for a visit, she chopped it off. Not quite the pixie-boy cut, but hella shorter, just barely passing her ear lobes. Made such a huge difference. It’s like she lost 2 points from when I saw her with her long flowing locks. In fact, that image is still seared into my head because I was greeted with a nice big smile and her face looked brighter than before, which I attribute to the the hair. I love long hair on women
(Odd note: that time when I saw her long hair, she referenced her ex-boyfriend when I inquired about her plans for Thanksgiving. On the next visit, when she chopped her hair off, I asked her plans for New Year’s and she mentioned something about her partner. I tried by best not to make a reflexively quizzical face that I missed out if she dropped a “she” sometime after having said that. I wouldn’t date her but I will add she is bangable. Maybe since she’s got tats it’s shouldn’t be hard to snag.)
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Just my own preference and taste, but …that’d be a Wow! from me.
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I’d say between the bra strap and the dimples above a girl’s ass is the sweet spot. Shorter hair than shoulders is only for women who aren’t interested in men and women who are so gorgeous that they take the piss and cut their hair short.
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Shoulder length is more than long enough… what looks good standing up can quickly become a nuisance in (ahem) other positions.
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*Science* crying out for Heartiste analysis:
http://www.nber.org/papers/w14969
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meanwhile men continue to kill themselves at far higher rates than women lol. Sounds like just another justification for more services targeted to women, while men have almost none.
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Of course women’s happiness has declined feminism was primarily an attack on women women are happiest when they’re kept housewives as depicted in the 1950s.
Now women are as unhappy as men who the fuck wants to work all day nobody works unless they have to
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In response to a tweet CH posted earlier:
“RT @dpinsen: @SOBL1 @heartistethink of it this way: would a woman prefer hanging out with Leo’s friends or Brady’s? Hollywood or locker ro…”
The answer depends on wheter they value a (a)white beta/omega in Hollywood over a (b) black alpha in a locker room. To answer that, you have to determine the woman.
My educated, but nevertheless hunch, is women from 4-6 would take (a) because most are faghags and self-empower womyn whose greatest relationship achievement hope is to be Ellen Degeneres’ next wife.
7-8.5 women desire the alpha male and will take his pumpndump over the beta male, any day.
Having not dated above 8.5, I have no idea.
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i dunno. i think most very high value women would pass on the jock meathead types if they can instead have an alpha with more to offer in the personality, charisma and intellect department.
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yeah, a charismatic movie star will mop the floor with a sports star’s groupies.
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Hollywood alphas are not interested in women.
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Being jacked has almost become commonplace in some areas. Even preselection by women has been watered down by the feminist centric culture/ you-go-slut-girl cultural norms. But fame and masculinity at the same time is so rare.
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Or just more fame… see “rock star”.
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Charismatic spectrum:
rock star > movie star > sports star > everybody else
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Can you truly say with confidence rock star > movie star in terms of true alphatude (options with women)? I would think them quite equivalent,
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Rock stars MUST have massive charisma. Movie/TV stars are performing on an often empty set for a camera and can get away without it. Rock stars have to improvise and calibrate. Movie/TV stars get endless retakes to fix a performance.
It’s the difference between Steven Tyler and Johnny Depp.
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I’d say movie stars do better with women than rock stars if we exclude shitty actors like Schwarzenegger. If you’re a movie star because you’re actually good it means you could manipulate people and fuck with them fairly easily. Rockstars seem more charismatic only because they’re marketed as such. When you buy a movie ticket, you go to see a movie, not to see actor X perform so the marketing isn’t usually about the cast(even when the actors are renowned, they’re mentioned in passing).
So I see no reason why rockstars must have massive charisma. That’s just marketing. What any live performer must be good at is vibing with the audience. So I think movie stars do better with women and if you look at the top wives and girlfriends for both rockstars and movie stars, you will see that the women of the latter are hotter. The discrepancy seems to get bigger the older they get.
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I’m thinking, barring any notable exceptions, movie stars have a vastly wider pool of women from which to choose… wider in environment, age range, and quality.
On a side note, I always thought it humorous that Ringo wound up getting the hottest babe out of all his band mates…
… and I don’t see anyone fighting over Lennon or Cobain’s widows. lzozlzozlzozlozlozlozlozlozlozl
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A point I was going to mention… male movie stars age a helluva lot better than rock stars.
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[…] Source: Heartiste […]
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The latest exchange with the 27 year old I’m banging went like this….she flaked, I disappeared, soft-next, instilled dread. She texted late night that she was missing me. Girl beta supplication ok, so I set up a second date and then it went like this after I’d texted to confirm something.
Her: yea you mentioned that ( What a smart-ass little bitch comment)
Me: just seeing if you’re paying attention. you passed.
Her: winky face icon then: “I rmb the details”
Me: We’ll see
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I’m curious, how do you make the date happen with “we’ll see”? I presume put plans out, while assuming the sale has already happened from a frame perspective?
I’ve been trying to meet this cute 21-yo off tinder. We’ve been texting on whatsapp, sending voice messages and pics back and forth for days. She invited me to meet for a sec when out with her friends. I flaked on that. Then we set up another thing, but she flaked on me, but I expected that so I was out at a museum lol. She apologized for the flake and said she’d be game to meet tuesday (today).
I’ve put in a ton of work cuz she looks like a hotter/younger version of an ex that fucked me up a bit.
I messed up yesterday and sent her like 3 texts in a row that were pretty gay/tender, and not emotionally polarizing. Whatsapp told me she saw them, so like 2 hours after I tried some chick crack. She bit instantly.
~8PM
Me: I hate you just a little bit.
Her: Hahaha why you hate me?
Me: You’re too nice
Me: I want a girl that’s a little evil
Her: Hahahhaha [ed: fuck you, respond to me]
Me: [In spanish] I bet you’re already getting ready for bed.
Her: [In spanish] Hahha no, I’m on my way home
Me: [In spanish] Come here instead. You work hard. You need hugs
Her: I was in university, will you visit me in my university tomorrow?
Me: We’ll see…
Gameplan is, “your lucky day. let’s do blah good logistics blah at 4pm” and she’ll say “no but…” and we can go from there.
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“We’ll see” is a response to some shit-test, it’s not a connecting text, it’s more of a containment and re-framing text.
I’ve been in your situation. I invite girl out or to come over, she instead says “I’m home having drinks now, come over.”
This is not a shit test. It’s an invitation to bang her brains out.
Here’s how I would have handled your situation.
You: Come over. We’ll stare at the stars
Her” I was in university, will you visit me in my university tomorrow
You: Depends…
Her: on what?
You: Throw in a coffee and muffin and it can be arranged.
see how my interaction already assumes the meeting without being too eager?
you’re still making her work for you even though you’re coming to see her.
Got it?
I think you’re over-thinking looking beta but there’s only so much a girl of that age will do unless you’re James Bond or George Clooney.
Don’t self-sabotage with dead end texts that look cool.
IN my case the girl was saying “Seduce me”…”We’ll see is re-framing”…in your case “We’ll see” signifies too much disinterest. Given that younger girls have so much on the go, she’ll just make other plans.
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@Wala – excellent points Wala. I’ve used a variant of “we’ll see” to good effect, when a girl is doing a challenging shit test to you like “I’m not going to kiss you/fuck you/see you” I use “we’ll see how you play your cards” which puts her in flip scripted chaser mode in addition to just an unsure interaction. Straight “we’ll see” can come off as try hard in some cases.
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@Lumpy, you should use this passive-aggressive style only when you flirt with a girl or when she shit tests you. When she wants you to invest something, you must make her invest something too. For example, walawala suggested a muffin and coffee. Even if she won’t buy you anything once you get there, it doesn’t matter much insofar as you spin her cupidity in a humorous way.
To answer your specific question, you don’t make a date happen with we’ll see. I see it as a great response for whenever a girl asks you to do something that she enjoys. The benefit of ‘we’ll see’, ‘if you’re a good girl’ etc is that it qualifies her to do something in exchange. If you’re a good girl can mean anything you want at the time.
@walawala, I’d say most of the time a girl is coming up with an alternative ‘date’ in which one and she are alone anywhere where sex can happen means one should buy condoms. Plus, it’s not like she will ask you to come over and not answer the door. Most of the times I’ve been in this situation and didn’t get laid are times when I fucked up.
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“When she wants you to invest something, you must make her invest something too. For example, walawala suggested a muffin and coffee.”
See Mystery Method “hoop theory” for more on this. He breaks it all down in detail.
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You lost hand when you tolerated “yea you mentioned that.”
Shit test, and you failed when you played into her frame justifying your first text with “Just seeing if you’re paying attention.”
The great thing about text game is that you have time to cook up a good response. In this case, the proper response is ABSOLUTELY. NOTHING. AT. ALL.
Just go silent and ignore her. She will pick up on your displeasure.
Then, later on when you see her in person, look her in the eye on your date in the middle of a sentence and stop, and say, “i didn’t like your attitude in the text you sent me. don’t do that again.” then just resume conversation without giving her a chance to respond.
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@YaReally and co
After reading your post on shit testing with your brilliant-as-fuck text responses I ran into a testy girl on tinder. So I dropped one of your lines. And then another. And then the building caught on fire. 😀 What’s a good way to de-escalate/switch topics if you know continuing to stomp shit tests will make her drop more that will blow you out at some point?
This girl’s an 22-yo 8 ballerina. Really fucking hot but not the hottest of her group of friends looking at the pics.
—
Me: You look like trouble embarrassed monkey emoticon
Next day:
Me: You’re just scared I’m a better dancer than you
Next day:
Her: hahaha sorry just saw this
Her: Hell yeah, you look terrific
Me: Shhht 😉 Do you have whatsapp
Her: Yes
Her: [In spanish] But I won’t give it
30 min
Me: Pffft please, you were convinced the second you saw my pics. 😉 [ed: my main pic is me hugging a llama lol]
90 min
Her: haha em no
20 min
Me: I don’t know if you’re worth convincing yet…
Me: I haven’t seen you in a little black dress. Why are your pics all boring? Are you a nun? lol
3 hours
Her: that sounded soooo stupid
Her Omg considering the pictures that you’ve got its even more ridiculous
Her: idk yet why I liked you
Her: Probably a mistake
30 min
[ed: This seemed like a good time to de-escalate the shit testing but I had no idea how to do it without losing her attention. So pour more gas on the fire and see what happens!]
Me: Because we would make beautiful babies
Me: If I use all my charm on you now I won’t have any left to get you in bed later
Her: wtf, yeah because you are not charming at all.. please delete the match, byee wave emoticon, punch emoticon
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lol
In other news, those shit test responses are money. I’ll take the frame from them and reword them but they work pretty good verbatim too lol! “Why are your pics all boring? Are you a nun? lol” got me laid off tinder with one of the hottest girls I’ve had in year or two. I’ll post that up in a bit. 😛 I have a few more text game questions but I’m finding the right convos to illustrate them.
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@Lumpy
Take this with a grain of salt cuz I’ve just been focusing on gaming in real life.
I’m not so keen on the second text, but hey, got her to respond so can’t find fault in that.
Her: Hell yeah, you look terrific
Me: Shhht 😉 Do you have whatsapp
(took the bait too quickly, she has to give you shit)
Her: Yes
Her: [In spanish] But I won’t give it
Me: Pffft please, you were convinced the second you saw my pics. 😉 (escalate as a reward for complying to you, not shit tests)
(I would’ve given her shit for assuming you wanted her whatsapp instead of escalating. Maybe you were just genuinely curious if she had one. Maybe you were qualifying her (I only talk to people who use whatsapp, I’m really into it or whatever).)
So yeah, a pretty common thing for guys to do is escalate or supplicate when they don’t know what to do with shit tests, rather than just dismiss or blow her test out of the water with an IDGAF attitude response.
So then we get:
Her: haha em no
Good opportunity to respond with DHV/personality stuff here (Most girls fall for my irreverent charm 😉 You’re different).
Me: I don’t know if you’re worth convincing yet…
Doesn’t make much sense here cuz now you’re assuming she’s not convinced after you just assumed she was.
Me: I haven’t seen you in a little black dress. Why are your pics all boring? Are you a nun? lol
You give her shit, she gives you shit (and EVEN more considering your responses)
Her: that sounded soooo stupid
Her Omg considering the pictures that you’ve got its even more ridiculous
Her: idk yet why I liked you
Her: Probably a mistake
Me: Because we would make beautiful babies
Me: If I use all my charm on you now I won’t have any left to get you in bed later
It’s kind of like a downward spiral in my opinion. Again, you escalated where you should’ve blown her test out of the water or ignored it. But regular guys do this at the club, they increase escalation and the girl just assumes you’re a loser/desperate.
Her: wtf, yeah because you are not charming at all.. please delete the match, byee wave emoticon, punch emoticon”
And done.
Hope this helps, wanted to try giving advice. Again take with grain of salt, just going off of my real life game experiences (which SHOULD translate well into texting). But whatever.
Simple fix to all of this is stop reacting to hot girls, get rejected more, text more girls, stop taking things so seriously and treat her like a brat.
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@Lumpy
Too much sticking to a script. Forcing the square peg in the round hole. You’re basically throwing lines at her instead of building them into the convo with a natural context so it comes off too disjointed/random.
Like I wouldn’t do:
Her: idk yet why I liked you
Her: Probably a mistake
Me: Because we would make beautiful babies
Me: If I use all my charm on you now I won’t have any left to get you in bed later
The first line flows okay but there’s no context for that second line. You have to either adapt the line or not use it, or coax the right context out. So I might do something like this:
Her: idk yet why I liked you
Her: Probably a mistake
Me: you were probably drunk. Drinking while you Tinder will make me seem way more charming. (some teasing and self-depreciation)
Her: lol you’re not charming
Me: I’m holding back…if I use all my charm on you now I won’t have any left to get you into bed later
So I still end up using that line but I’ve guided the flow of the river of conversation toward a situation where that line is contextually relevant and clever rather than disjointed and coming off as a pre-canned routine/line.
Make sense? Don’t look for holes to cram the square peg into and cram it into round ones…just guide the convo toward holes and if they’re round coax and massage them into shape for that square peg.
Or shave the corners off the square peg. Example of shaving corners and changing the line to adapt to the conversations context.
Her: you’re not that smart
Me: I’m holding back…if I blow you away with my intellect now I won’t have anything left to impress you with to get you into bed later.
Both of these come off more natural and improvised than what you were doing but it’s only because I’m creating the right situation to use them. From her perspective though I come off as smooth and witty and effortlessly passing her shit-tests.
It’s kind of like faking someone out to create an opening for an uppercut vs trying to just swing uppercuts at them while they’re guarding.
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http://media.independent.com/img/croppedphotos/2014/05/24/elliot_rodger_t479.jpg?ad14627618f647f3902aa65ed5ac8237c798b1ef
Hold up a sec Ya… I thought all girls had round holes? and I have BEEN trying to jam my peg in them, butt no luck. Is it that some girls have square ones? I heard a guy say once that asians had square ones and it was hard to get in the corners, but I thought he was BS’ing me man. so what’s the deal?
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Thanks for the feedback. I’ll apply it and post up some results!
I’m totally with ER on peg jamming here. Hole shape is just a limiting belief. 😀
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I can’t believe ballerinas are on tinder messing around with losers who are on tinder.
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try having decent pics before you use a canned line insulting a fucking ballerina’s pics. do you even have any showing you doing anything athletic or anything other than holding a drink in a bar? (it’s not impressive to hug a camel)
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@Lumpy – are you able to post a link to that shit-testing post, sounds well worth the read for us amateurs
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Here ya go!
https://heartiste.wordpress.com/2015/01/26/asshole-game-week-replacement-therapy/#comment-644814
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Even more slick:3
Her” Will you come over to my university tomorrow?
You: Depends?
Her: On what?
You: Throw in a coffee and muffin and I could get my chauffer to drive the stretch limo over. 3pm?
Her: logistics logistics..
Then you’ve had still been fun and gaming her without self-sabotage.
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She’d have to throw in two cups of coffee and two muffins then. 😛
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Some of the different ways I say yes… “Sure” and “Mmhmm”
I use “nope” to say no
Other ways I answer questions… “Perhaps”, “Possibly”….”We’ll see” (has been explained by CH). “Depends” may be effective.
Her: “Seduce me”
You: “Sure” …… non-chalant,
You; “Mmhmm” …. if a banged her 6 months ago…she knows I have a deep
voice
You: “Perhaps”…. variation of “We’ll see”
You: “Possibly”…. variation of “We’ll see”
My favorite response to ANY question or request is “standby”.
Her: “What are you doing later?”
Me: “Standby”
Her: “What are you watching?”
Me: “Standby”
Her: “HELP, HELP, Help me now!!”
Me; “Standby”
LESS IS MORE…..
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good stuff. not intentional in my case, but i have a tic of saying ‘mm..hmm’ with a rising tone when i have nothing to say. the funny thing is girls take it as being interesting. they might repeat back as a query, smiling, or they take it as if i’m looking down their shirt or appraising them, and it sexualizes the conversation
no genius of my own, it’s just that it’s an unclear expression, and the girl generally will imagine it to be the right thing to say to make her fantasy world progress
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Reminds me of the Scarlett Johansen line in Vicky Cristina Barcelona when she says ‘you’re going to have to seduce me’ to Bardem who sits there looking bemused. That is my favorite ‘game’ movie. CH – I liked your analysis of this movie.
I have not seen any analysis of Clooney in ‘Up In the Air’ – did you ever do one for that?
Side topic – the comments on the Errol Flynn Alpha post are closed but I bought his book after reading that post. Not sure if he is an alpha after reading that book – his wife constantly threw things at him, beat him up and later took all his money. he was also ripped off by an asian female gambler.
He lived a crazy life for sure though.
Rubirosa is more of a legend for me and James Hunt is my hero.
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