The shapes of female figures have real world consequences, for both men’s capacity to experience pleasure and willingness to commit, and for women’s ability to leverage the sexual market to snag a winner man and fulfill their romantic needs. Given that men, unlike women, are neurally primed to get aroused and motivated solely by stimulating visual cues, it’s difficult to overestimate just how much a good body shape assists women in the promise of a healthy and happy love life.
“Beauty is in the eye of the beholder” is a lie insofar as it presupposes every female body type is equally attractive. They aren’t. Women don’t have equal sexual or marriageable worth. Some body types are better than others. And one body type is so much better than the others that women who possess it can name their price.
The Anti-Gnostic, ruddy and taut from doing a yeoman’s job disinfecting that cistern of stupidity at Cheap Chalupas whenever the subject turns to mass nonwhite immigration, forwards a handy chart illustrating the four five female body types.

He adds for effect,
Female body types: hourglass, pear, banana, apple.
I’d add a body type of “rotund”, given the historically unprecedented numbers of fertile, obese females.
Never bonked an apple or a rotund. Ever. I’ve had some widely variant sexual partners, but if she doesn’t have inflection points that result in a definite waist, the right subinsular is just not going to be firing. No amount of drugs or desperation on earth could get me over that hump.
The recently added Rotund fifth female body type:

Who said America’s inventive spirit is dead? We’ve invented a whole new female body type!
Of the five, rotund is obviously the most disfiguring, and the ugliest female body type. A woman with this non-shape will suffer MASSIVE constraints on her mate choice options. Compared to less celestial women, she will have the least number of men pursuing her, and those who do will be the lowest value men. Her odds of spending many years enduring painful involuntary solitude are very high. Like her male analogue the socially clumsy nerdo, she will likely spend months, perhaps even years, in parched involuntary sexlessness. And any man she does manage to lure into her sticky, bulbous, pitcher plant vagina will be less interested in a longer-term commitment with her than he would with a woman of more human shape.
The Rotund female body type is so bad in contrast with the others that it practically deserves its own graphic. Correction: It needs its own graphic due to screen size limitations. So we boot Violet Blobbybarge into Jupiterian orbit where she belongs, and rank the remaining four female body types in ascending order of attractiveness.
Apple
Not nearly as atrociously repulsive as the Rotund, the Apple nonetheless squats lumply below the other three body types. Top heaviness works for linebackers, not women.
Pear
The Pear is interesting, because much of her sexual appeal or lack thereof depends on the distribution of her fulcrum fat. If her fat sits grotesquely on her hips like a hoop dress, and her ass juts like a National Geographic native, she will turn off more (white) men than the Apple-shaped girl. If she sports an incipient fupa, even worse. The entire deleterious effect is magnified if her narrow-shouldered upper body sways like a swamp reed atop the mountain of fat below.
But if the Pear’s fat isn’t obtrusive, and it rests gracefully and smoothly on child-birthing hips without too much distortion, the Pear can be quite bangable. Unfortunately, most Pears aren’t this lucky.
Banana
I expect this categorization to elicit the most opposition from the penis gallery. Men like curves, and will assume the Pear has more of those boner-inducing curves than the Banana. But that’s not how it always plays out. Bananas have curves that are proportionate to their overall slender body shape. The waist-hip ratio is what counts, not the absolute hip width.
Bananas are your archetypical athletic girls: Tall, slender and built like sex pistons. Bananas are overrepresented among porn starlets, probably because they have the optimal balance of higher testosterone-induced horniness and thin body shapes that arouse male viewers. If the Banana has a narrow waist to complement her lithe hips, and her torso isn’t overdeveloped, she will turn more men’s eyes than the Pear. However if the Banana is tubular, the Pear with pleasing pelvic padding will win more head-swivel contests.
Keep in mind that men with a keen future time orientation who are also seeking relationships will be better at projecting the Banana and the Pear into the future, whereupon they will see with mental clarity what happens to each type of body after ten or twenty years, and the Pear doesn’t come out looking so good under those conditions. The Banana typically holds up better, while the Pear turns into a Weeble.
Hourglass
And here we arrive, at last, to the goddess. My, but she is a tall drink of tumescence. The vast…. VAST… majority of men prefer hourglass-shaped women. Those perfect Playboy measurements — 34/24/34 and mostly unchanged in their boner-popping power since time immemorial — are so desired by men that women with this body type run laps around their sexual market competition.
The Hourglass lady is desired by the most men, pursued by the most high value men, and when pursued is solicited the most frequently by men with offers of long-term commitment. If she is also pretty of face, she has, for all practical purposes, unlimited sexual market options.
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There it is. Women would do well to understand and accept the visual acumen with which men make their split-second judgment of women’s bodies. Men are frickin electron microscopes in human form when they’re visually assessing women’s figures. A centimeter here, a millimeter there, can mean the difference for women between suffering the awkward sexual interest of a spazzy beta or the passionate love of a smooth alpha. It can mean the difference between waiting for years for an Alex Pareene to propose in cubic zirconia, or weeks for a God of the Rod to gift wrap a bag of Skittles.

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Dude
http://is.gd/v7sBBY
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Heh.
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Rotund. they’d probably be offended by the term instead of grateful for the kind euphemism for beastmode.
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My ranking order are
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2. Banana (a very close second, I like skinny toned bitches)
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5. Star Jones & Lisa Lampanelli finger fucking eachother with poop
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6. The “Rotund,” sitting on a lake of frozen tears (and ice cream sandwiches) a la Dante’s Inferno.
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Ha ha ha. Same here.
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[…] By CH […]
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CH: ”The Hourglass lady is desired by the most men…’
Jizzabel: “But the plus-size market is so large [heh] and there’s so much diversity…”
http://millihelen.jezebel.com/big-girls-want-bold-fashion-too-an-interview-with-the-1683252640/+katedries
…this is beyond a difference in personal taste; they’re in a different universe…
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… a different universe… one with much larger moons.
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That’s no moon.
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And ooh!what gravity does to them!
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> “That’s no moon.” Thread winner. For the youngsters:
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Come on Zombie. “Youngsters” know Star Wars too.
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Its too big to be a fat station…
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gravity is oppressive and discriminating against fat womyns!
We have to add helium balloons to the welfare system! The heavier you are the bigger the balloon, so everyone can weigh 120 lbs!
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> “add helium balloons to the welfare system”
I had to overnight something to a PO Box [couldn’t use UPS or FedEx], so I was standing in line at the Post Office, and there was some strangely slender mud chick [mulattoo vs mestizo vs dune coon], ahead of me in line, who otherwise would have been admirably banana-shaped for a mud, except that her posterior stuck out just a little too far, and it dawned on me that this was probably the first time that I had ever seen the oft-rumored silicone implants of the buttocks. I wonder whether Whitey is now subsidizing this shiznat via Obamacare? If not, then it can’t be long now before we hear chants of “No Silicone, no Peace!”
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Can’t be a different universe… universes are supposed to show evidence of heavenly bodies.
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Last month my friend and I were curious about our measurments because we both wear the same size dress, and she is only 2cm more tall than me yet our bodies look very different. It is fascinating. There is a body shape calculator but if you have a 10 inches difference between your waist and breasts/hips etc, it just says you are hour glass. Which I dont think is accurate because most women of healthy weight have about a 10 inch difference between the Waist/hips/breast. Surely it does not mean they would all still be hour glass if they were to gain weight. Even 4 extra pounds will go to the breasts on some women, the stomach on some, the hips on others etc.
I have seen slim apples and slim pears look beautiful, because slim apples are skinny women with huge boobs. Slim pears do not have boobs but they have meat on their thighs and hips so they still look feminine. Bananas dont have much breasts or much hips, but I think it is quite a common shape.
Hour glassed women are women able to still look good with a few more pounds. Because it is evenly distributed. The most unfortunate for women is to gain it in the stomach.
There is a website which says there are more body shapes. It is quite interesting.
http://www.bodyshapecalculator.co.uk/trinny-and-susannahs-12-body-shapes
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Some thoughts on celebritys shapes..
Christina Hendricks is a hour glass who is a little heavy, but has maintained a excellent WHR. Kelly Brook is a slimmer hour glass, with a flat stomach but still quite large breasts and hips.
Kate Upton is a classic apple. When she is slim she looks good. Angelina Jolie is also a slim apple. While she stays slim everywhere else, she still has roundness and weight to the breasts.
Keira Knightly is a banana, very little waist definition, flat chest, very straight shape.
Pear shape is women like jennifer lopez.
[CH: this is stretching the definitions a bit. most hollywhore women are hourglasses. for instance, compared to the average for its type, jlo is far more hourglass than she is pear. keira is banana, but a sexy banana with nice hips and ass even if her tits are lacking. jolie is more hourglass than apple. kate upton is banana.]
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There is a “skittle” shape. lol And “brick.” She’s a brick..house.
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Hourglass with a bulbous booty; not one that spills to the sides, but arches ever so softly from the back to the thighs.
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I think it I’m most attracted to tall skinny girls (banana) with a touch of baby fat in the face. I just feel so turned on by the slender figure
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Coming out of competitive sports as a kid, I used to love the slender chicks. But as you get older, you realize that a chick is gonna need some body fat in order to support a regular menstrual cycle and some baseline fertility of the womb. Also, as I’ve gotten older, the face is getting way more important than the other body parts. And the quality of the skin – all other things being equal, chicks with weird skin are falling further and further behind the chicks with really soft smooth oleaginous skin.
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CHICK #1, really soft smooth oleaginous skin:

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CHICK #2, weird skin:

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I disagree with bananas>pears. But then, I am not exactly unbiased…AHEM.
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I feel bad for blind men. We should support technology to help the blind see for men’s rights.
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Our ancestors fucked under many a moonless night and the blind can feel the golden ratio as good as an ace RAF pilot.
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Although you have to dig through the scientific literature for “current proof” – what will become common knowledge in the future is that body fat storage is actually hormone mediated.
These body types correlate with various health markers and signal our limbic system as markers of attractiveness.
Apple: predominant upper and central obesity associated with mismanagement of insulin, thyroid and cortisol – think stress and malnutrition
Pear: a slim upper body and corpulent lower body are primarily indicative of hormone issues related to toxicity and poor liver health – more specifically xenoestrogens and IGF-1
Banana: as CH correctly identified, this body type, though rather healthy, tends to have higher testosterone levels. Not super feminine, but more often than not DTF.
Hourglass: body fat distribution signals balance between hormones, especially between androgens and estrogens (not too many male hormones). Highest attractiveness and peak limbic stimulation.
Rotund: You’re lucky if the medical system can keep you alive past 1 decade.
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That is interesting.Thank you.
But I am curious about bone structure. It is not only fat distribution which causes the shape of the body right? It is also the bones. Some women have naturaly small hips for example, some wide shoulders, some wide hips etc.
I have noticed women tend to vary in their shape from country to country. For examples, Russian women tall, narrow hips and big breasts, Greek women, more short, wider hips and medium breasts. Polish women big breasts but also generaly bigger on top in weight. Do you think there is a reason for this?
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Absolutely. Your thought revolves around the epigenetics and genetic heritability of bone structure. As a general rule:
Genetics loads the gun; the environment pulls the trigger.
The bigger question is how much of bone structure can be attributed to genetic heritability and how much can be attributed to environmental influence. Not much research in this area. But data from the heritability of height allows to extrapolate: one study I’ve read shows that your height is 87-93% determined by genetics (for men) and 68-84% for women; the rest is environmental influence (think nutrition, physical activity, etc.).
The environment would select for certain bone structure within a population. For example, the long distances run by Kenyans would select for more lithe bone structure to accommodate their habitat and lifestyle. And again, economic prosperity has been surmised as helping the Dutch become some of the world’s tallest (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/randal-olson/why-are-the-dutch-so-tall_b_5544085.html).
As for obesity and body fat distribution, the epigenetics of these issues are still being elucidated. But it’s obvious to everyone, compared to bone structure and height, that the North American milieu has far more pressure and influence here.
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anon, post more please. much needed info here, a breath of fresh air from the hateful snark.
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In an interview, Jack LaLanne mentioned getting letters from women who couldn’t get pregnant until they got in better shape, thanks to his TV exercise show. He said it was a mystery how that worked, but it was so satisfying to help ’em get pregs! Now we know something about the hormones involved.
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Skeptical skeptic is skeptical… that’s way too wide a margin on the woman side to be believable.
Of course, “one study” immediately puts the cum grano salis take on things.
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Genes set the maximum potential. Environment (marginally) helps you reach your potential or inhibits you in reaching it.
But barring extreme environmental shocks like malnutrition or injury, your actual height, intelligence, athleticism and other qualities will be as your genes intended.
No environment will make a four-minute miler out of a slow kid.
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Never said it was gospel. The field of epigenetics is still relatively young and developing. But the overall premise of the big picture is still plausible. All it is saying is: “Factors other than genetics playing a bigger part in a woman’s overall height in comparison to men”.
Not that much of a stretch.
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68% to 84% “not that much of a stretch”?
Au contraire, mon frere.
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Spot on!
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Interesting stuff anon. Any further reading links?
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Nothing for the non-specialist reader. However if you’re willing to sift through mind-numbing amounts of obscure scientific literature…
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Somewhere between the two – I’m a nutrition/biology geek, but no scientist.
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I’ll take the banana shape all day long. She is least likely to be fat, which is a fundamental criteria over all else….
and the slender bodies suggest youth, too.
and if she is an ingenue….
deadly.
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Dated a banana type; her thighs weren’t much larger in diameter than my upper arms! But she ran every day (worst exercise one can do, as it ages you and wears tremendously on your joints) and was proud of it. Tits were like grapes on a table.
Much prefer the pear. Generally a nice ass, with moderate sized breasts that remain perky and up there on the chest. Hour glass women have to work too hard to maintain and once those larger breasts start to fall, there’s no telling how low they’ll go. Been there too. Annoying how she had to keep moving those fat sacks around, like cantalopes in the bottom of the legs on panty hose (tights for you Brits)……
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anything by Vargas works for me…
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@Sentient Anything here (but not limited to) works for me: 35-24-35.tumblr.com
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Yeah that’s a good one man. This one too http://themindfuckofgoldenbirdies.tumblr.com/
ahhhhh….
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Though a “banana” with a pretty face is super. And they do stay slender. pears will get fat, and not in the right places.
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Sentient, it’s going to be just about impossible for that chick to nurse a baby. As you get older, you start thinking about shit like that, and the scrawny chicks start getting crossed off the list.
[CH: as YOU get older. important distinction. because if the slender girls you pursue are younger and in their fertile prime, then they will have no trouble carrying and nursing babies. the value of “fat stores” on women is something of a myth perpetuated by older men who are stuck dating plumped up older women.]
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Keep in mind even scrawny girls are pushing 15% body fat. Which is enough for their incubator to work.
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@captain obvious this girl isn’t “scrawny” this girl has a great body. “your style of girls” are girls that I think are slightly chubby probably
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@Captain Obvious. ….
Sorry dude your theory is wrong. I’m 47 my wife is as well. 5 kids later she is still a size 0 and wears a 26 Jean. Same size as her teenage daughters. Body a lot like this girl but had b cups, which post breastfeeding 5 are now A’s. Rather have that then 15 lbs in waist and thighs.
Key to young guys looking for slender wives who will age well look at the neck, you never see a fat woman with a swan neck. Also look at the arm where the shoulder meets the tricep and bicep. If this is slender she will likely stay slender. A lot of young girls who will end up storing fat have thick upper arms. Also the shoulders should be broad like this girl here but not meaty. Will help proportions even if she gains a few in the keister.
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I’m saying that those eentsy-weentsy A-Cup titties are NOT GOING TO MAKE MUCH MILK!!! If your family gives birth to tiny little 5lb baby boys who grow up to be 5’5″ tall, then fine, maybe the child will survive. But if your family gives birth to 10lb baby boys who grow up to be 6’5″ tall, then the child is going to starve to death in infancy. As you get older, you start thinking about this shit: big C- or D-Cups for the milk production, and wider hips to get the child out safely. Ergo your youthful preference [coming out of competitive sports], for banana, morphs into a more mature preference, for hourglass.
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Captain Obvious,
I see we have a very obvious female anatomy fail here.
Pre-pregnancy breast fat has very little to do with breast milk production after childbirth.
Long form, see links:
http://www.babycenter.com/404_is-it-true-that-small-breasted-moms-produce-less-milk_10310185.bc
and
http://www.babycenter.com/0_making-breast-milk-how-your-body-produces-natures-perfect-ba_8785.bc
Short form — It’s the hormones, Stupid.
Hormonal imbalances from obesity are far more likely to interfere with breast milk production after birth than being a thin, athletic, banana shaped woman.
Youth and thinness beat age and a too high a BMI every time in the fertility, birth, and breast feeding sweepstakes.
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Larger boobs doesn’t mean larger mammary glands. It means more fat. My wife has A’s they swelled up to damn near Cs when she was breast feeding. On the last kid she donated her excess milk.
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Re Sentient’s black lace banana babe, is there a name for that gesture with the two fingers held near one eye?
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One more, because… well do you need a reason! Flawless, skin, hair, face, neck, tits, waist, legs… only drawback she has a mouth and words come out of it.
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I would gigiggedy both of their geshmoygedens
Twice.
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Andddddd @sentient that girl may very well be close to a 10 in my book.
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wide hips are needed to give birth to big heads. my head is huge (all dem brains) and I nearly killed my mother… so the legend goes
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@ VRW
“wide hips are needed to give birth to big heads. my head is huge (all dem brains) and I nearly killed my mother… so the legend goes”
not only do wide hips make for easier childbearing, i’ve also read somewhere about a theory that suggests part of the reason hips can sometimes spread even more after a baby is delivered is so it’s easier for the mom to carry the child around. most moms put little ones on their hips to carry them.
so if that’s true, wide hips are a good indicator of childbearing ability AND also an indicator that the girl is built well for mothering in general.
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@ Experienced Father and WillBest
you guys are both wrong to some extent. true that women with itty bitty titties can produce as much milk as women with big beauties but it takes more effort on their part to do it. smaller breasts just can’t hold as much milk as large ones. makes sense for obvious reasons.
According to this article, they actually have to feed their babies more frequently than a busty mom just to keep up their supply. that’s not ideal.
http://breastfeedingbasics.info/do-big-breasts-make-more-milk
Question: Do Big Breasts Make More Milk?
“The simple answer to this question is no. However size DOES matter in this situation. If you have small breasts, you will need to nurse a little more frequently to maintain your milk supply at the same level as those who have larger breasts. The science behind this principle goes something like this:
As your breasts become fuller, the tightness or engorgement of the breast tissue signals the milk producing glands to slow their milk production. Women who have larger breasts can hold more milk before their breasts begin to get engorged with too much milk.”
it’s cool you guys love your wives and you want to stick up for them but the fact is, there is a reason most men are attracted to well developed breasts. it’s not an accident. well developed breasts are just more efficient for feeding babies. no denying that. Captain Obvious was simply pointing out the obvious…heh.
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blart,
After 30(+) months (and still counting nights without sleep) of breast feedng children, you learn a few things about the subject. This statement:
>>smaller breasts just can’t hold as much milk as large ones. makes sense for obvious reasons.
Is irrelevant.
Breasts feed 1.8 to 3 oz per feeding after 4 to 8 weeks for between 7 and 12 feedings, with fewer feedings getting larger quantities of milk towards the laterpart of that time range.
See:
http://kellymom.com/bf/pumpingmoms/pumping/milkcalc/
During the first few weeks of postnatal life, you may have to breastfeed your baby more frequently (up to 8 to 12 times a day). This is mainly because the size of your baby’s stomach is small and he can only take small amount of feeds. Also, the maternal breastmilk is digested more readily than formula milk. As the capacity of baby’s stomach grows, the frequency of feeding decreases to 7 times a day by 1-2 month of age.
and
http://www.newkidscenter.com/How-Many-Ounces-Of-Breastmilk-Should-A-Newborn-Eat.html
“After 6 months
After the initiation of weaning foods, the overall intake of breastmilk by babies decreases significantly. Most babies consume up to 30 oz. milk by 7-8 months of postnatal life that further decreases to 19 oz. by the first birthday. The amount of milk also depends on the amount of solid food taken by the baby.”
See also:
http://kellymom.com/bf/pumpingmoms/pumping/milkcalc/
In exclusively breastfed babies, milk intake increases quickly during the first few weeks of life, then stays about the same between one and six months (though it likely increases short term during growth spurts). Current breastfeeding research does not indicate that breastmilk intake changes with baby’s age or weight between one and six months. After six months, breastmilk intake will continue at this same level until — sometime after six months, depending in baby’s intake from other foods — baby’s milk intake begins to decrease gradually (see below).
The research tells us that exclusively breastfed babies take in an average of 25 oz (750 mL) per day between the ages of 1 month and 6 months. Different babies take in different amounts of milk; a typical range of milk intakes is 19-30 oz per day (570-900 mL per day).
When this comment you quoted regards breasts starts to make a difference:
>>Women who have larger breasts can hold more milk before their breasts begin to get engorged with too much milk.”
Is after the Baby starts sleeping “a full night through” (usually 4-to-5 hours not 6-to-8).
Since this is usually after 6-months, when most parents have introduced solid foods, yet again the issue of bigger versus smaller breast storage for feeding babies is irrelevant.
As for this:
>>there is a reason most men are attracted to well developed breasts. it’s
>>not an accident. well developed breasts are just more efficient for feeding
>>babies. no denying that. Captain Obvious was simply pointing out the
>>obvious…heh.
I think it more …ahem… Obvious that breast fed babies are more likely to fixate on Breasts as adults.
Early formative life experiences make a huge difference.
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Sentient, question for you. Theoretically couldn’t a marriage be reset by flirting, texting girls and not actually having to have sex with them outside the marriage?
It seems that you are married and I would be interested in hearing your story particularly if it includes breaking free of beta in your marriage.
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Not just theoretically, but practically. And it’s not just flirting per se. It’s EVERYTHING! Never back down in a fight. Never apologize. Gentle playful teasing [with a twinkle in your eye] to get a point across. Use third-party examples [everything from disfunctional couples whom you know to shitlib anti-male television commercials] in order to subtly but persistently teach her about Evo-Psych and the Frankfurt School agenda of unleashing female Cluster B insanity as the means by which to destroy Western Civilization. Here’s a good place to start [listen to Cluster B FoxNews Cunts ripping into Rand Paul]:
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Another reply in mod, but ALL THE WOMEN of your acquaintance – from Grandmas to Granddaughters – will respond well to increasing signs of masculinity on your part. Steadfastnest, resolve, determination, grit, playfulness, ANGER! [when it’s appropriate to lose your temper], showmanship, leadership, humor, and prescience. Use Evo-Psych to analyze and PREDICT social trainwrecks which are about to happen [“Your friend’s wimpy little husband had better man up and grow a pair or else she’s gonna take on a lover”], and when your predictions come true, chicks will think you’re a frigging minor pagan god.
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@putin “Sentient, question for you. Theoretically couldn’t a marriage be reset by flirting, texting girls and not actually having to have sex with them outside the marriage?”
You can reset your marriage without talking or flirting with any girls at all, let alone having sex. In fact most guys could not handle the sex, too much dopamine, too much guilt. They will crack. You need to do what is right for you.
First step is understanding where you are in your marriage and how you got there. Is it low arousal or low attraction? Is it too much alpha asshole behavior or too much beta orbiter behavior? Etc.
If it is the traditional story of a fairly alpha guy who gets married and gets betaized over time with kids etc., falling victim to blue pill tropes like “women need romance, women need more housework from you, everyone has less sex over time, etc. etc. it’s pretty easy to reset your relationship in terms of what needs to be done and very hard for these guys to do it because they lack the will and inner frame to piss off their wife and not care. They are too thirsty and too used to walking on eggshells around the princess bride and the whole BP “happy wife happy life” thing.
So to reset, first examine how you got where you are, when did the sex go bad and take a hard look at yourself. What are your weak spots – are you lazy? Do you layabout and watch TV or play video games in your spare time while your dishwasher is broken, your yard looks like niggers live there, you have debt consuming your paycheck every week, you are carrying a thirty pound gut around, you are wearing 10YO dockers everyday and baggy shirts, you have Low T, you can’t get a hard on, you last 30 seconds in bed etc. This is structural stuff you need to start getting your arms around. Guess what Starbuck, this shit is NOT sexy to your bride. I tell you, i see you guys and you are not the same guy you were when you met your wife. Blue pill thinking fucks with men too. They like the whole forever thing because they can justify getting lazy.
So start by forgetting about her for 3-4 months and just work on you and the low hanging fruit. Make a list (she probably has one you never get to) and FIX all the shit that’s broken or dirty. and don’t do it like a faggot seeing how she responds and looking for a treat and a pat on the head and sex. Fix the shit because you have some pride and it needs fixing. YOU: Going to the store. be back later. [come back – just start working on your project] Her: What are you doing? NOW you are going to start that blah blah blah. You: Whatever, I’m tired of looking at this. [gets thing fixed, showers and NEVER mentions it again] Her: I suspect you are expecting something for that now aren’t you blah blah? You: So cute when you are like that [leaves room].
At work, get that raise or get on a path to increase your income or responsibility. Stop coasting.
Diet. Drop that 30 lb gut. and don’t mention a fucking word about it. Just go about it. You:I’m not eating with you tonight I will make my own meal. Her: WhAT? Tonight is bacon cheeseburger chili mac and cheese casserole night? You: Enjoy. Thanks. [eats salad he makes, drinks water]. Lose that shit as fast as possible.
Fitness. start doing some exercise cowboy. walk. Just start walking for an hour a day. Then some pushups. If you are up for it start hitting the gym. again, make no mention of it. You[gets up at 5 am and gets dressed, grabs gym bag] Her :WHAT? Where are you going what are you doing you woke me up blah blah blah. You: Hitting the gym. Go back to bed….
Clothes. Once you have dropped that 30 lb gut, you will need some new clothes. Just go and get some. make sure they fit. If they don’t go to the tailor. Make sure the stuff you get is simple and stylish. Not fashion forward. Just well fitting, good colors and fabrics and age appropriate.
These simple things are the first steps WAX ON so to speak. This starts to destabalize the relationship. Her hamster will pick up on this right away. Your SR is going up and hers is going down.
Let me know where you are in your marriage and we can get to the next steps. Upping dominance, passing shit tests, leading relationship, increasing sex frequency and passion. IOI’s etc.
Work on your inner game. You don’t need her and you don’t need any validation from her. You are enough, you validate you.
And get the MMSL Primer and read it, the old blog and early forum stuff too.
I’ve been alpha and betaized and brought it all back. my story I will tell when I have more time.
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Captain Obvious, that clip is sickening and what we have to deal with in this country. This is not a free country. Mexico is free. I can say “let me get into your pants” to a women in Mexico and she would laugh it off. I say something like that in the U.S. and I lose my job or go to jail.
Sentient, “I’ve been alpha and betaized and brought it all back.” Yes me also. Except I had to to this shit all on my own as I did not know about websites like this until recently. So now I am in data collection mode. Wish I would of seen this stuff earlier as it would of saved me a lot of time. It got unbearable when my business went south and I was going to Christian counselors. I told some of my story on an earlier post.
I married a women who basically had never been dumped in a relationship. As arrogant as this sounds I would lose interest in women very fast because they were so easy to get. By “get” I do not mean sexually but emotionally as I tried to be a good Christian guy and very rarely banged women.
.”In fact most guys could not handle the sex, too much dopamine, too much guilt. They will crack. You need to do what is right for you”.
Excellent points! So basically did you have to use cheating for your situation?
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In my experience, you can use other girls to spike up your marriage. But it has to be done in such a way that your wife doesn’t have her emotional floor dropped out from under her. In reseting – you want to elevate her esteem, confidence and passions.
Flirt mercilessly with other girls – they’ll be particularly receptive to your attention because of your preselected and it validates them. Creating sexual tension with other girls – will hone your game, boost your confidence and sate your appetite for variety. Keep your wife grounded by that it’s all part of a ruse to seduce her. Knowing your gaming her with pivots – doesn’t detract from the feelings she gets. Done openly it will give her big time tingles.
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Captain Obvious, thanks for the insights. I could say so much about that clip from FOX news but in the end the neocons are never going to let him get elected!
“Your friend’s wimpy little husband had better man up and grow a pair or else she’s gonna take on a lover” YES! but the only reason she has not yet is because of her looks. She stares her husband down and talks openly about her regret to getting married early. If it wasn’t so sad it would be funny. He keeps going to Christian counselors. He left one counselor who said she would never change. She is so unhappy and he is so afraid of her.
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CANDY’ O
The Cars were my favorite growing up.
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Elvgren for me
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Rotund isn’t *really* a body shape. Under all that fat, she’s an hourglass or one of the three fruits, right?
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Watching too many Weight Watcher commercials are we?
But you are correct, any body type can become covered in rolls of fat if you follow the Government’s diet recommendations, instead of modified Atkins or Paleo.
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Rotund isn’t *really* a body shape. Under all that fat, she’s an hourglass or one of the three fruits, right?
That was humor, right? Serious question.
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No, I’m serious. If she diets away the weight, gets down to 22% body fat…. won’t she be one of those shapes? Those shapes are based on fat cell distribution, not overall amount of body fat. Am I making sense?
She’s probably a very fat apple.
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That’s a fair point. I’m mainly just wondering where all those enormous, jutting guts are coming from. Seems like more going on than just too much cake.
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@34/24/34
34/24 ~ sqrt(2)
24/34 ~ sqrt(2) / 2
interesting that…
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are we going to start going through sine, cosine, and tangent tables now for 30/45/60 degree angles?
more like let.it.learn AMIRITE?
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Wild! Math is pure just like the hourglass figure.
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The golden mean shows up in all sorts of the most attractive proportions on women also.
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Is that the same thing as the golden ratio? Good old Donald Duck in Mathmagicland!
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Actually, in re the sexual promiscuity of bananas, Vox has a study that suggests bananas (what he calls “snake-hipped women”) are actually less likely to whore around, and hourglasses (and presumably pears) more likely.
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Link
(in case you missed that the word “study” above has a link)
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When I think of “pear”, I think of a woman with no tits and big ass… can’t have it.
I don’t mind a little extra on the hips, but there’s gotta be a big rack to balance it out.
No big tits, no dice. I cannot deny.
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The stomach is the no go line. I see a lot of pears these days but with flat stomachs (some have abs) in the 23-27 YO group. Back in the day we would have considered these girls fat. But they are not, just pear shaped. with strong athletic legs. still bet they go to shit though after kids.
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I don’t necessary go straight to no tits when I hear pear. A friend of my wife rocks a 32D bra size, waist is around 26, but then her hips are up around 40
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With you there, Greg (on this and on so many other subjects).
Ignoring the blob-shaped fatties for the moment – though better to simply ignore them at all times and under all circumstances – is there anything worse than the flat-chested, pear-shaped chick? Especially if she is verging on hefty. Can’t stand overweight bints who don’t even have the goddamn common courtesy to sport some decent tits.
Britain is stuffed with ’em. Pun intended.
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More “nice ass, moderate tits”, than your description. Like my wife back when she was almost human.
You must love being smothered by sweater puppies, eh? Don’t ever forget what gravity does to those things!
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I cannot deny!
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While it is true that banana type women have curves that are in proportion to the rest of their bodies, wouldn’t you guys want a woman who actually looks like she went through puberty?
Also, high testosterone might not be the sole cause of women being unfeminine. Some unfeminine women do indeed have higher testosterone levels. Some unfeminine women have low testosterone levels, but also low estrogen levels. Same goes with men. Some unmasculine men have higher estrogen levels, some unmasculine men have low estrogen levels but low testosterone levels too.
This is how it plays out: High testosterone woman – manjaw ogre who is DTF. Low testosterone low estrogen woman – introverted aspie female nerd. High estrogen man – gay. Low estrogen low testosterone man – introverted aspie nerd.
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While it is true that banana type women have curves that are in proportion to the rest of their bodies, wouldn’t you guys want a woman who actually looks like she went through puberty?
If they “have curves that are in proportion to the rest of their bodies”, they’re more subtle than those of an hourglass with wide hips and big boobs, but they’re still certainly there. I like both hourglasses and bananas. They both appeal to me, but in somewhat different ways.
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Our new marketing director is banana-manjaw-high t chick. Her voice is deeper than our tech director’s.
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Yes, but not all unfeminine women are high-T manjaws. Go to any STEM school campus and walk around. Tons of low-TAND low-E girls and guys.
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http://cdn28.us1.fansshare.com/photos/kristinkreuk/kristin-kreuk-men-fitness-body-814602817.jpg seriously, you wouldn’t? Does this look like a prepubescent girl?
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I think most men would say that she’s above average. I also think that she has an exceptionally pretty face. Women with pretty faces can be somewhat over or underweight and men will still like them. That being said, most men would prefer Marilyn Monroe, Jayne Mansfield, or Sophia Loren.
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That’s always been my Triummmmvirate!
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Indeed. Sounded like shaming language from a chick!
Burn teh pedos!!!111!11one
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“wouldn’t you guys want a woman who actually looks like she went through puberty?”
Female detected
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yeah, SC is either a bitterbitch or a bitterbetaboy. this is classic femcunt strategy 101 to slander normal male desire as pathological.
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I expect this categorization to elicit the most opposition from the penis gallery.
Muhdik, lol.
Mrs. Gamer is a well-ripened banana with Coconuts and her shape has held up well lo these many decades. Excepting the sag due to gravity, of course. Her hips have tended slightly towards boyishness. 35 x 25 x 34
Skin looks good thanks to Mary Kay. Hair looks good thanks to Lady Clairol.
Still bangable after all these years. Not sure if the hourglass holds up so well over time. Expect some ballooning.
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Off topic comment here. Still trying ti understand the stance or philosophy CH board has regarding porn.
I have heard of cases where men get ED from looking at porn all the time so this is a valid concern. There are also moral questions to it as well as concerns that it could undermine the relationship. But I still don’t have a good answer to this question…
1. If some women get excited watching porn then why not use it to help augment sex in the relationship?
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Look up Rollo’s no fap rule. Plus there are hormonal reasons to only bust inside a woman => greater T, fapping => lower T. No one’s perfect but stay away from porn.
Stay away. It’s like McDonald’s except mooooooore eviiiiiiiiilllllllll. “Why go out and meet women when I can stay here with all these girls?” or “Why focus on improving my relationship with my partner when she doesn’t put out when I can just spent quality time with all these eager girls?”. Just don’t do it regularly, better yet, don’t do it at all.
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Thanks for the answers and would agree with pretty much everything you guys said.
But most of what was said is focused on the guy watching it. Still not sure why it could not be used by the lady in a LTR/marriage if it gets her real horny which makes for good sex?
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Girl-on-girl can be rather instructive for bringing some pleasure to the real thing. But watch only once in a great while!
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I might add my opinion here. I don’t know whether pornography use causes any health issues but I will say this that is is a great excuse to avoid improving yourself. I would say avoid it if you are trying to learn about pickup or meet women, it just seems counter productive in that regard. You need to avoid anything that saps you of motivation.
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oh and as far as women who watch it, I think they should be excited by you, not by porn, isn’t that what you want? That kind of excuse, to augment sex, just seems like a red-herring. Obviously that isn’t what porn is used for, those obscure things. Just accept the bad of porn outweighs any of the good, that is my opinion.
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@putin – try it and see how it goes. Avoid just you watching solo and avoid her watching solo and avoid using together all the time. It’s all about dopamine response. You want that to come from you big fella, and you really want it to come from her for you, or else there will be trouble. And not the good kind.
As to no FAP – there has been lots of debate on this, MMSL boards come to mind. My view is nothing is as beta as a married guy jerking off down the hall when he has a woman in his bed. and don’t think she doesn’t think that is beta as well. You are a man, have your needs known, and have them met. High school kids with no game can jerk off.
also no FAP will raise your T level and put you in the right mindset to initiate properly, and to smack down shit tests properly.
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porn does cause ED…i was in college wacking it maybe 2 or 3 times a day to porn. on days where i was scheduled to go out that night i wouldnt jack off but when i did pull i could never get it up. for ages i put this down to alcohol because i do drink alot. then i found theory on the net that hardcore porn (shit like mommy daughter anal threesomes ha) desensitizes the brain to real bland sex with your standard 5-8 smv college girl.
i stopped watching porn and after a few months the problem was gone. even if you casually wack it to porn it saps lot of motivation out of you to chase real life broads
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The other side of that equation is that a man might purposely choose that option legitimately because dealing with real women in the real world can fuck up your life in so many ways, Especially in today’s environment.
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I have a theory that greater acceptance of outwardly expressed deviant behavior (e.g. homosexuality) is a result of the ubiquity of online porn. I think people’s tastes for weirder and weirder material are developed by use and overuse of porn where a tolerance is built up not unlike a the tolerance of a drug user – one needs more explicit, more graphic, more deviant oriented material to elicit the same degree of arousal. Having the experience of feeling like a secret and voyeuristic, but non-participating deviant themselves, they are reluctant to make moral judgments on a social or political level out of feelings of guilt and the wish to avoid hypocrisy.
It may be a post hoc ergo propter hoc fallacy but it seems that the increased capacity to download material in terms of file size (and therefore permitting, for example, streaming video) permits the production of more material and niche material and tracks pretty well with the acceptance of all things gay. In the net’s earlier days of dial up modems the wait for a single and complete explicit picture could last minutes, and there was less of an ability for non-commercial persons and entities to upload the diverse material on offer today.
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“I think people’s tastes for weirder and weirder material are developed by use and overuse of porn where a tolerance is built up not unlike a the tolerance of a drug user – one needs more explicit, more graphic, more deviant oriented material to elicit the same degree of arousal. ”
I think that line of thinking is more in line with anti porn propaganda from both extreme religious right and left feminist hags.
Most young guys are straight up addicted to porn and most still jerk it to a standard guy banging a hot girl.
What internet porn has done is allow people that are predisposed to those weird fetishes is easily indulge in them.
It’s the same wrong logic with drugs pertaining to weed. That smoking pot is eventually going to lead everyone that uses it to hardcore meth and heroin whereas that happens to a minority of people that smoke up. Most guys I know stick to booze and weed with some minor experimentation of harder stuff. Same with porn but I don’t personally monitor their jerk off habits.
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@Furious Ferret: I wouldn’t dismiss the effects of porn as right wing propaganda. There are studies done in reference to this phenomena, along with observation of the world. Guys today are more effeminate than before (hell even more effeminate than in the 90’s) and one of the causes behind this is the ubiquity of porn (overstimulation).
By the way anal sex as well as Double penetrations were not popular or even part and parcel of the male fantasies 20 years ago and were promoted anyway, increasing the threshold of tolerance, until those types of porn became standard. If movies like Selma and other feminist proganda that are complete failures are still being funded in the movies is because agendas are being pushed and the same case can be seen in porn where the net incomes of most producing houses are going down (in spite of its omni-presence) and they continue in the “business”.
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There’s a good site out there called “Your brain on porn”. Pretty startling information.
There are studies that are showing men in their early twenties with testosterone levels equivalent to a seventy year old man.
Men are meant to chase and fuck real women not masturbate to pixels.
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@Reco – I’ve seen that Brain on Porn stuff – what was interesting about those studies is that when they did studies on men (of different ages) who stopped masturbating to porn, the sex drive and T level and the various brain changes all went back to normal.
But the kicker was that it took LONGER for the younger (under 25) guys – several months – as opposed to a few weeks to a couple of months for the older (35ish) guys.
The reason? Nobody knows for sure, but the hypothesis is that the older guys did not spend their teenage years whacking off to easily available high-def hardcore online porn, unlike the younger ones. We actually had to work a lot harder for it and were less exposed, so our brains were less affected in the crucial teenage years.
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Yes I think that mens brains are just what you said at a young age they are still developing but when they get older it is more established.
You have created those goat paths deep in the brain and it it harder to change.
This also goes to the issue of someone that is addicted to porn/fapping and making it harder for them to get off of it if they started young.
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dude, I’m 35 & after finding the info on that site & realizing what porn was doing to me it has taken me all of 6 months to get my mojo back after going cold-turkey. That site is a lifesaver.
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I hear ha brother. It is like we have this form of self medication and most men don’t even know it.
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Solution: make your own with her.
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Actually a lot of these sites use made up shit to transport their message and make men afraid of fapping. Therefore men can be manipulated by sex through women, the media and society.
It is true that overuse of porn may cause ED and lower your motivation to chase, but the decline of T started well before internet porn and the reasons are a multitude of factors such as xenoestrogens etc.
IMO there’s nothing wrong with masturbation every once in a while. For some guys with an enormous drive it can be useful to let them live productive lives.
For others who don’t want to deal with women anymore it is your only remedy.
In the end it’s like everything: it’s good in little doses but harmful in big ones.
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I can tell where a woman is in her menstral cycle by the way she smells and tastes and by the glide inside. She’s probably more aware of how primed I am for mating. It’s said – a mother can tell the day her son enters puberty by the way he smells.
The smell of the couch-crease carries far. Save your loads – she’ll thank you for it.
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On average, women are way, way, way less interested in porn than men – it goes to the roots of our neurology, with men as visual and spatial hunters of animals and women as mental and verbal organizers of plants and children.
I treasure my inner images of my woman inviting me from behind in nothing but pumps and wispy panties, she treasures the sound of my voice; deep, soft and so close my lips are grazing her ear, telling her dirty, low-class things in a high-brow way.
So don’t expect to amp things up with women much through porn – YOU have to do that.
That said, the sexier babes are almost always curious enough to include it in the repertoire occasionally.
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That’s a superb bit of advice right there
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Question for CH.
I saw an excellent article which included a list of 4 or 5 things to do to change your marriage for the better. You even challenged it as superior to any psychologist/counselor advice. It was impressive but I think the article was written a couple years ago.
1. So have you updated, changed or added anything to the list?
2. Do you feel that everything needs to be done on the list for success? In other-words could you text, flirt with women instead of taking the risk of actually cheating?
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And then you have (1) the Pumpkin, well-represented among the Cheetos-guzzling female SJW population, and (2) the Chayote, increasingly embodied by the grub-like female Indio-Mexican immigrant community.
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Chayote? You’re too kind. More like “Stuffed Burrito”!
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this is the ideal body-type for any high test male (warning:dicklets need not apply):

[CH: would bang, but truthfully her overlarge ass is the type to appeal more to black guys.]
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Hahaha so true @ch
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looks like my wife
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Would bang. However doubt she has an ITG. Can work with it but if her ham sando isn’t exposed by her ITG from behind its not good for repeat business.
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Dumb question. What’s an ITG?
BTW, dat ass is perfect… for now. She looks Greek or French.
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Inner Thigh Gap.
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Thick upper arm, short neck, narrow shoulders and a big ass. Let me know if she ever loses the 40 lbs she gains from her first kid.
Congrats Dad your wife has grown by a third…
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Ideal?
Hardly, although not bad… make her an Aryan instead of some mystery meat and she’d pass my “would bang”-ometer.
But Sentient’s right… that body is a time bomb upon which pregnancy is going to light the fuse.
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She needs to tone up. I’m liking that booty, but it is too fatty at the moment. Get some squatting in and it’ll maintain.
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For those wondering, that’s Joanna Zanella (i believe she’s mexican). I only know this because I watch UFC and that’s Brendan Schaub’s current girlfriend.
She comes pretty close to my ideal, too. I don’t like girls with small asses or even medium sized ones. These type of bodies(and asses) instill a primal force in me to impregnate them. Here’s another pic:

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Fun fact: Brandon Schaub is quite the douchebag. LOLZLZOLZOLZO
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BON!
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nice latin booty for sure but her facial features look more asian than latin to me. bag over the head and i’d totally do her, though.
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This chick is nothing to write home about.
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@CH I feel like sometimes you dislike stuff for the sole reason that Black or other Coloured guys like it. I personally think that girl’s face is kinda plain, but her body is a 10. I would love to trade bodies with that girl as long as I can keep my own face. I think that most White men would agree that her body is better than that of most women out there.
Her butt is not overlarge. Saartjie Baartman’s butt is overlarge. The girl in the photo is nowhere near steatopygic.
[CH: i didn’t say her butt was steatopygic, i said it was overlarge. it’s bigger than the white girl butt ideal. i’m on record as saying that black men probably like their women fatter and bigger in the rump. the reason for this racial difference in female shape preference? a topic for discussion!]
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I actually think she’s slightly too chunky for me but she’s not considered fat in my book by any means just oversized. Ch said it well. Just saying
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I’ve noticed most brown Latinas hit the wall HARD.
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There is one additional body type, which is the strawberry (which is my favorite): large bust and narrow hips.
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That’s apple.
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Uggh! Knew a woman like that once: above the waist was a Playboy centerfold, below was a 12 yr. old boy! Disconcerting to say the least.
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There are at least 2 more types.
Spoon: intermediate between hourglass and pear. Think pear with slender waist. A personal favorite.
Inverted spoon: intermediate between hourglass and apple. Look up Jayne Mansfield’s measurements.
Of course body shape is not the only factor. I used to favor HG-shaped girls, but(t) those I could ogle on a daily basis were rather short and not very slender waisted (24/34 is not low enough WHR for my taste). The advantage of pear/spoon shaped girls is that there are more of them, so there is a good chance you’ll find one who is perfect in other respects, such as butt shape.
As for banana shapes, if a girl has a low WHR then she is definitely not banana shaped by my definition. Ever seen a banana that is thinner in the middle?
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I’m a banana shaped person who is thinner in the middle. Problem is, I could stand to lose half an inch in the belly area and gain an inch in the boobs area, plus an inch in the butt area. My WHR is like .74 which is kinda sad.
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Start squatting. The booty will fill out nicely. And, you’ll lose that inch in the belly. See #2.
http://www.t-nation.com/powerful-words/10-great-things-about-lifting-weights
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No, I meant a real banana: ever eaten a banana fruit that is thinner in the middle?
Out of mathematical necessity, everybody with WHR<1 is thinner in the middle (and that includes men who are not rotund) but for me a banana shaped woman means a woman with a boyish body, or perhaps a manly body. It is true that very slim hourglasses are not very different from very slim bananas, but at that level I wonder whether the birth canal is wide enough for a big brain like mine (OTOH putting on weight would not make the birth canal any wider!)
It's more complicated with apple shapes, because it depends on how much of the chest is breast, if you see what I mean.
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@Aspie Nerd, my definition of a banana shaped body is any woman whose boobs and hips have similar measurements but her boobs minus waist or hips minus waist is less than 9″. An hourglass shaped body is any woman whose boobs and hips have similar measurements but her boobs minus waist or hips minus waist is 9″ or more. For example, a girl who is 36-24-35 is an hourglass whereas a girl who is 32-24-32 is a banana.
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There is something even more nuanced and subtle that I’m into…hourglass or pear is less important to me. (Though 34/26/38 is ideal to me at 5’2″, and most ladies that have these below-mentioned nuances are close to these measurements):
What turns me on over all is this one certain kind of roundness everywhere. You know when a fit girl with a developed pelvis has thighs that flare out from the hip and are widest a couple inches below the crotch? There is no gap (gaps creep me out as juvenile and/or masculine).
Thing about these girls is that this flared roundness is everywhere on them. It’s between the knuckles of their fingers even! Do you guys know what I’m talking about? Usually it is South Asian subcontinental ladies who have this, or else northern South American ladies. But I’ve met nordic ladies with it too, just not as many.
(Semirelevant: Been with one obese woman one time ever. She had a waist and a gorgeous face. From Brazil. End of a long dry spell. No hurry to do that again but it wasn’t nearly as bad as I had anticipated. Actually she had lots of indicators of my type deacribed above, kind of a shame she was so fat because she was born with all the pretty genes!)
Anyway do you guys know what I’m talking about or should I clarify?
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If you could find a pic showing what you’re talking about, that would help.
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Hey the best I can think of is the pioneer plaque else I would be posting friends pics. Jessica alba and denise richards are getting close but not many celebs come close. Alla kushnir is a lighter semiceleb example.
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https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQe0ApOqvia03BhNWbwLXeKDObPyytY3ELxYQnK3dgJYSbCmLEQZ242cbVGTA
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Hmmm pioneer plaque girl doesn’t have the thigh flare, just a healthy average body…ill find a flared thigh
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See how these are wider below the hip than at it? They can get a bit bigger with this shape for my taste. No need to be this hard but no complaintshttps://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTGqwfYriC0VvqA0IwXR4Tulb08dXTG1iFZ3c2KqpvsejkS1f51
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Starting to see it. Almost reminds me of a gal at my work. Short chick, maybe 5 feet. Great, bulbous booty and a nice rack (though I’m wondering if they’re new or she’s taking some bc that’s building ’em up, but they’re spectacular.)
{Quick aside: now I’m thinking of Markie Post.}
But she’s got nice thighs; not too thick, but not too thin. Think she played soccer in her younger days. Slim core. She’d look even better if she didn’t booze it up so much and at least toned up.
But based on that Pioneer Plaque, I’m getting a better picture.
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Should clarify the roundness is tight and fit if slightly plump. The genes will show at at bmi 19 but they look their best from 23 to 25 to me.
The obese if elsewise pretty brazilian was several years ago; as an example of these genes even showing in extremely adverse conditions
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Hourglass or gtfo
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It’s all about the peach – with a cherry on top
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Rotund is something added on top.
A rotund hourglass woman isn’t nearly as repulsive as a rotund apple.
America is importing rotund apples in the millions.
It’s making rotund pears out of its actual daughters.
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OT but really amazes me the feminization of the super bowl. We have talked about the pink bandannas and pink shoes and all of that crap. But attending a superbowl party in my neighborhood really took the cake. Host family is very nice and it was typical suburbia with mostly intact middle class families. But the women are there to talk women shit and watch the fucking commercials.
I was sitting next to one married couple and the fat wife could not help but just light up and start going on all a twitter every time a commercial break came on. Never mind this was one of the better superbowls in a long time. Or that one of the most significant endings in NFL history. But noooo we have to fucking see what happens with the goddamned puppy and the clydesdale horse. I wanted to puke. Since taking the red pill I have studiously avoided network television except for certain sports and old movies etc. But this I could not avoid. It was right there in front of me and I had to not only sit through this orgy or estrogen secreting idiocy. But listen to my neighbors bleating on about each item. It was not easy.
Then you had some NBC news femcunt interviewing the president, and the location they picked was a kitchen. Not sure why. You also had the most girly fucking vacuous entertainer they could find for the half time show Katie Perry. And she didn’t even show her tits. Which she seems to be quite proud of usually. Disgusting. There were at least two commercials that had men actually crying in them. Children with dads that were absent Nissan. A TMobil commercial that had that 3rd rate comedian Sara Silverman in a delivery room saying that were sorry but your baby is a boy. So sad. Why would anyone with a pair ever buy anything from TMobil. Superbowl how about circling the bowl?
And what the fuck is the NFL lecturing us about domestic violence with Chris Carter crying. Are you fucking kidding me? If they want to do something about stopping domestic violence they ought to be prosecuting all those wife beaters, murderers, and child abusers they call football players in the NFL. Is this some kind of parallel universe? I bet if they put all of the NFL players in prison tomorrow they could singlehandedly bring down the U.S. domestic violence statistics by a few points.
Then they had a commercial with a femcunt director off camera getting kids to imitate run like a girl, and throw like a girl implying that girls run and throw just as competent as men and that it is insulting to say run/throw like a girl. And there were a couple of females at the party loudly agreeing with this. I could not take it any more. So I said “hmmm I wonder they don’t use these girls are in the superbowl or the world series”. Needless to say things got a little quiet for a minute.
We should do a survey on what the top ten most slanderous feminized television commercials are. And then get people to vote on it. Then we could use social media to publicize it. Just to shame these fucking companies that pull this shit.
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What the femcunts and manboobs don’t realize is that when men are in power politically/socially and women are not, even when the women “rise up” and fight the establishment, it was largely peaceful impetuous childish disobedience.
When men on the other hand get sick of the oppression olympics bullshit and finally collectively snap, bones get broken and lives end.
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Yeah it is a shame. Because they dont think about it at all. They just keep reacting. I am convinced that you can get women to do just about anything. They are infinitely malleable. And they do not see the consequences down the road at all.
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It’s weird that hourglass girls are so out of style lately. Kim k wouldn’t be so popular is she had any competition. In the 90s hourglass girls like laeticia casta and claudia schiffer were all over the place. Now it’s fridge bodies like Alessandra ambrosio. Pity. For most women, hourglass is easier to obtain than banana. But a lot of sports and workouts get you to banana.
[CH: bullshit. the hourglass shape is a function of underlying bone and sinew structure. a woman with a natural hourglass shape won’t lose her hourglass if she lifts weights or runs three times a week. now, where you are within striking distance of the truth is the case of extreme female athletes, like marathoners, who do lose some markers of femininity after years of hard training and hormonal changes.
you wouldn’t be, by any chance, a fatty fat fat fuck apologist, would you? no of course you wouldn’t.]
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Women with the hourglass shape are the female expression of the mesomorph somatotype.
[CH: bingo.]
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Never thought about it in those terms but that makes perfect sense.
The real true hourglass stunner is like of those more human than human NFL running backs/linebackers who look like they were created by a comic book artist.
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Also, bananas are ectomorphs, and I suppose pears are endomorphs. As for apples, my guess is mesomorphs with too much testosterone.
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@corvinus I think that apples are endomorphs with too much testosterone. Pears are simply traditionally feminine looking women but without the ample boobs.
Each body type has its strengths and weaknesses. Hourglass girls are #1 at age 20. Pear and apple girls are tied for #2 at that age. Banana girls are the least attractive at age 20 but age the best, so they are #1 at age 40-50. If you want to have kids, do it with an hourglass or pear woman because they have an easier time giving birth.
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@SC
Well, bananas are not washboard-flat (unless they’re malnourished), so I think they still outrank the others except hourglass when young. The fact they age better helps explain why I ultimately prefer banana over hourglass.
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I lose my hourglass somewhat if I lift a lot and I don’t perfectly balance opposing muscle groups. Normal women rarely lose enough body fat for this type of thing to be a problem but if you’re thin enough, a lot of workouts make a girl look worse. Rowing eventually wrecks a thin girls body by bulking up the upper body. Even pilates willruin the hourglass after enough of it because 99% of women cannot both have a muscular abdomen and an hour glass waist.
I have to lay off many workouts to keep the hourglass. And a thing i know about in life is how to keep an hour glass figure. Granted most of it is genetic but it can be enhanced or ruined through chosen actions.
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+1 Nice reply.
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Good with the weight lifting; very bad with the regular (and lengthy) running; that will only age a woman badly.
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> “It’s weird that hourglass girls are so out of style lately.”
Sodomites/Sapphistes and YKW run the fashion biz. Sodomites/sapphistes want girls to look like little boys so as to try to lure teenaged kids over to The Dark Side [sexuality -> androgony -> sodomy/sapphistry]. And of course YKW don’t want the Shkotzim to propagate, so they are loathe to allow dissemination of imagery which might inspire a young shegetz boy to knock up a shiksa and give birth to a shkotzim abomination.
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Goy vey!
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Oh, NOW I get it, Zombie! All the young models with perfect untouched ovens have to attend the Frankfurt School where they learn to love the the Darkness in their hearts, and their final exam consists of fellating Axelrod while Soros slams them from behind, and if they pass, they get to return to their Satanic synagogues to corrupt all the innocent little Christian girls into becoming lesbianic whores for the black transsexual gibmedat women who run the Obama White House and then and then and then and then …
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basically, little spoon’s error is assuming “out of style” means the same thing as “not sexy anymore”. gay and female fashionistas decide what’s “in style”, but men still respond viscerally to the hourglass shape like they have for millennia. when the elite culture turns away from supplying what straight men desire, you have evidence that a growing anti-male bias is skewing cultural creative output.
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Excellent comments on article in NY Magazine about why women freeze their eggs.
http://nymag.com/thecut/2015/01/real-reason-women-freeze-their-eggs.html#rzWrgt:Yho
markmallarde
I’m a male that has been both the “nice guy” and the “bad boy” to different women for many years. My observation: women want men that are out of their league in terms of looks, wealth and education. These are the “bad boys.” The men don’t really want them that much but are still willing to sleep with them. When women date men at their own level, the men want them more but have less appeal because they are lower caliber. (They also are “nice.”)
Parents have failed women. Women have soaked up a lot of nonsense and don’t realize that they are not princesses until it is too late. Women have no conception how much more attractive we find most of them at 21 to 25 than at 35. Women, it is like the difference between a guy that is 6’2″ and 5’7″. Or one who is bald and one who has hair. Get it?
The old deal was you spend your youth with us and we will stick by you when you get old. Now women just want the latter part of the deal. No, thanks.
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Great comment, variation of which I have made here many times
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Dr. Keffe, the feminist fertility shrink says the following to the author:
“There’s something wrong with the men in your generation,” he said. I was stunned. Here was a doctor who had just been talking about the importance of considering statistical significance, blah blah blah.
“It isn’t you,” he said. “All day long, I see patients like you. You’re smart, beautiful, accomplished, nice. It makes no sense. I go home to my wife and I say, ‘There’s something wrong with the men in this generation. They won’t grow up.’”
I’ll spare you the rest, I can’t hear it anymore. It’s always men’s fault! It couldn’t be that women are crazy and entitled sloots and marrying is the most stupid decision in a man’s life? Noooo waayyy
I’m typing this stuff again because wordpr ess wouldn’t post it! And if it’s not going through this time I’ll post it a bazillion times, because it’s worth it!!!
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It’s a living
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“The old deal was you spend your youth with us and we will stick by you when you get old. Now women just want the latter part of the deal. No, thanks.”
That’s pretty much it. Fuck that.
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Mark, there are many great posts on this site but you totally nailed it. I then laughed later when I read your post about the guy Dr. Keefe taking her $9k and asking, What’s he gonna say, “You missed the boat, but this’ll help you sleep” or “You should have settled down before your triceps turned to gelatin”? I was rolling, then I looked up and it was … you again! Well played, sir, too logical for these idiots. Great stuff my man.
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What do you think about plus sized models?Like Robyn Lawley? I think she is beautiful.
[CH: of course you would.
ps she’d look a lot more “beautiful” if she lost 40 pounds.]
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Even with weight loss she would still suffer from Kate Upton syndrome.
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She looks ok/good in some of her photos; but not in that one where she looks to have a shrunken head or a disproportionately large body.
Though keep in mind that in modelling shoots, hundreds of photos are taken, lighting, filters and photoshop etc all play a role and only a few photos are selected to make their way into magazines and so on.
She is a “big bitch” and according to Wikipedia; 1.88 m (6 ft 2 in) tall, and 36C/D – 29 – 39.5.
One must also wonder about the large woman/big vagina factor.
Would it be like throwing a sausage down a hallway?
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I like plus size models more than girls like Karlie kloss.
I think the best bodies on the world belonged to raquel welch, selma hayek and and laeticia casta in their primes. Laeticia is to body what belluci is to face imo.
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@ little spoon
agree about welch, hayek and casta but belluci is not just a pretty face. she has a smoking hot body.
and for all you doubters who think the older chicks don’t have it. here’s an eye opener.
monica bellucci is 48 in this photo
[CH: it’s not impossible for an older chick to have it. it’s just very very VERY rare.]
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Her breasts would have to be at least three inches bigger before I’d say “would bang”. Right now she’s a bit too bottom-heavy and tom-boyish.
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Whenever a female says that another woman is “beautiful”, you automatically know it’s either
1) a mild fatty with extremely soft, feminine features (see above)
2) a high-T ultratoned athlete (and the female usually comments with jealousy on the woman’s arms or abs or some other marker of masculinity, but never breasts or hips)
3) a skinny pixie-stick with pretty eyes, zero curves, and an image of wealth and luxury (see Hepburn, Audrey)
But the one thing you can count on? That other “beautiful” woman is never, ever, ever, EVER … beautiful.
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Oh bullshit. I think Catherine Zeta Jones in her prime was one of the most beautiful actresses on Hollywood history. Anyone want to argue she isn’t a 9+?
Women appreciate beauty, too.
[CH: she was a 10 in zorro.]
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[CH: of course you would.
ps she’d look a lot more “beautiful” if she lost 40 pounds.]
-40 lbs, I’d go for her. I like tall girls.
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“Google employees eat lunch in a cafeteria adorned by artwork created by Google employees, in Mountain View, Calif.”
http://s.newsweek.com/sites/www.newsweek.com/files/styles/embedded_full/public/2015/01/26/0130siliconvalley08.jpg?itok=C9kiQC_R
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What some would call “Encorpera”.
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The last thing I want to look up and see while I’m eating a bowl of Parmesan pasta is E.T. With eye makeup staring at me creepily. What the fuck.
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It’s from sensational Newsweek essay that rips the lid off the treatment of women in tech.
“The Glassbreakers women are launching a product for women, designed to solve a problem women understand better than men, in an economic sector that has traditionally produced products shaped by the minds of young men for young men. It’s inarguable that white, upper-middle-class young men have applied the new technologies to make things that reflect their desires and culture and foisted them on the world. Women who complain about sexist video games get death threats from legions of boyfans conditioned by formative years on the Xbox controller to believe it’s their right to rescue—or maybe assault—wasp-waisted half-naked damsels in distress. And the anonymity of the Internet has proved relatively more menacing to women.”
Glassbreakers. Maybe they should call them Ballbreakers. The essay is a tour de force in web photo-journalism. A laff riot.
http://www.newsweek.com/2015/02/06/what-silicon-valley-thinks-women-302821.html
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I’m with you there.
Lawdy, mama… the face that launched a thousand lunches.
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The interesting thing about the “plus size” stores is that the dresses they sell allow fat women to fake being hourglass. So really, that’s an endorsement of the CH. Checkmate, feminists.
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So according to the post this is Emily Ratajkowski is pretty much GOAT. Hour glass with low body fat and facial symmetry of the gods.
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Body 10. Face I’m not sure, seems off to me.
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I’d have said face ten and body eight but honestly I like shorter bodies with bigger thighs. Hips really but thighs show it best.
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She has prominent features but they are perfectly proportional.
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she’s not perfectly symmetrical. look closely. the left side of her face (left side from her perspective, right side to the viewer) is larger than the right side. it’s really obvious in the eyes; her left eye sits higher than her right eye. she had a prenatal growth trajectory that favored her left side. (i’d bet she’s left-handed, or at least stronger on her left side).
would still bang. body: 10. face: 8.5
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CH: eyes also too far apart because of wide nasal bridge. Face is pretty but far from ideal.
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Both face and body seem off to me somehow. Could be because she’s Polish, and they tend to look odd; OTOH, it’s only one picture and not necessarily a good one.
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I am maybe just barely noticing any asymmetry, keep in mind this is a 3 dimensional image that is mapped in to a 2d grid so it removes some depth and perspective. She appears to be flexing her left eye brow. I will say that if you look carefully at her right thumb it looks weird compared to her left thumb. Also, no point on right elbow, disgusting. Gigantic mole on abs, sickening. 1/10 for body. Would not bang.
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@Martin – is this parody or are you serious?
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sentient- sorry I am just ribbing everyone. But if you look closely at her hair, you can spot a split end, 0.5/10. Would not bang.
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Little girl with a fishmouth. Pass.
Also/: the fashion world prefers bananas (or as we old ‘uns used to call them, stick figures) because a.) they’re easier to dress and b.) because to the mostly homosexual designers, the models resemble little boys.
The fashion world also prefers stick figures because they know that while few if any women will measure up to their “ideal” body shape, female insecurity drives sales of all fashion-related items: clothes, shoes, magazines, makeup, diet aids etc. And women, being idiots, can’t see through the scam.
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“Little girl with a fishmouth. Pass.”
…….
You honestly deserve to inhale Zyklon B.
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…and you’re just the girly to feed it to me, I suppose? My Twerp Meter just went off the chart.
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I’ll have yours as well then.
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Her titts had a starring role in David Fincher’s recent film, Gone Girl.
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A lot of women with congenital scoliosis (a bent spine) look just about perfect. They are like Ballerinas in most respects(thin and beautiful) ; they just look weird naked. Like a snake with tits…
Androgen insensitivity Syndrome makes for some hotties – like Ann Coulter. Abundant tits, tall, thin, big masculinized brains. Big strong hands, naturally good pistol shots, but, tragically their lower girly bits can break down with normal
usage.
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The banana shows best in photos and elegant dress but I’d admit that the hourglass/curvy-not-fat body type elicits the strongest visceral attraction – a compulsion originating in the loins.
[CH: banana is great for catwalks. hourglass is great for fucking.]
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Finally somebody said it. You don’t know the difference until you’ve taken both for a spin. I’m *still* thinking about the hourglass figure I had in October/November, and how mind-blowing our sex was.
Leave bananas for breakfast.
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[CH: banana is great for catwalks. hourglass is great for fucking.]
absolutely
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The mother of my children was a 19 year old musical prodigy Who had somehow bullshitted her way into the freshman class of a front ranked American Medical School! I said… Hey…
Sex happened. Beautiful children happened.
God be praised.
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CH, the humor in the article. Dont mean to throw out a beta vibe but the article reframes the truth in a less bitter way.
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Hit the send button too soon, Forgot to add that the humor in the article was good. Laughed at this one. Keep adding more humor
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For some reason im into skinnier pear shaped bodies. It’s prob second on my list to hourglass. The pear shape isnt bad though. The girl has to be slim though or else you can misinterpret what I’m saying as a fat girl ha
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Buzzfeed shitlib retort.
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All of them are ugly
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And way way off on body type. Most are too fat for any historic age, as well.
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still can’t figure out why Pete Carroll didn’t just give her the ball at the one yard line.
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Wtf?! Censor CH, censor
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Feminine petites with near-flat chest are f’n hot. Especially blonde and in a sundress.
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You can have ’em. Give me a 5’8″ brunette hourglass with great legs and flexibility.
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“Feminine petites with near-flat chest are f’n hot. Especially blonde and in a sundress.”
nope
[CH: blonde in sundress is great. i dunno about the flat chest part. little tas tas are fine if the complete package is prime. a totally flat chest would just be weird.]
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agreed.
blondes aren’t my top choice but i do see the appeal for other men. i actually prefer feminine petite girls as opposed to the taller variety and a sundress on any good looking girl is great.
it’s really the near-flat chest that i’d have a hard time with. been with a couple girls like that and they just didn’t do it for me. felt a little pervy actually. like they were underdeveloped or abnormal and i was doing something i shouldn’t be doing. couldn’t get past it and it was sort of a boner killer. same way i feel about a totally bare vag. just not my thing.
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Depends on how good their nipples are. Little teeny ones like an 8 yr. old are no good. Need a decent aureole and an nice firm, large nipple at least of the same diameter as the tip of your pinky.
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A little daygame vignette… 7 but approaching the wall (late 20’s). Divorced two young kids. See her at the coffee shop every now and then. Her kid did something humorous one time. saw her out at a bar on my way out a few weeks later and commented on the thing her kid did. some laughing, light kino. she was with two woemn and I was leaving with a buddy. We did that thing where you see someone out of context, in a different place, dressed differently and were both like woah… Anyhow a good response from her as I leave the place. Could see some attraction.
see her in the coffee shop a week later. she is a couple people behind me in line and I could see her eye coding a bit. I IGNORE her intentionally, get my coffee and go sit down, avoid the beta thing to do to come over and pick back up from the bar. Not thirsty. She gets hers and goes and sits in the opposite corner. hahaha.
a few weeks go by, we keep giving each other glances but no communication. I’m just taking it easy this is a bit too close to home anyway, so no big deal. sometimes the window is open but for a moment, especially with single moms. No big deal.
Today I am sitting reading the Chateau. She comes in from behind me and takes the stool next to me and opens me with a “Hello Sir!”. Now here is the fun part, GAME knowledge kicks in and the calculations are done in a fraction of a second. I take note that there are plenty of empty seats and ample room to stand and wait for a coffee, but she came all the way over and took the seat next to me, I take note she opens me, I take note of her posture. which is leaning forward and slighty giddy. DING DING DING Game on.
Pre game I would have ignored all these signs, but know, especially building on the prior interactions its a swift and smooth transition into sexy game vibe. I ask her, turning full towards her but leaning back a bit “did you call me sir because I look royal or do you think I am an old man”? Playful and disqualifying and start the strong direct eye contact. she laughs says “no I don’t think you are old I call everyone sir even women”. I say that’s pretty weird and she laughs and says no not really just her friends and I say well that’s kind of a col hipster thing to do these days. she jumps in with “so how old are your kids”? and the games begin.
We chat a bit and I slightly sexualize the convo, she is like wow you have 5 kids me “me yeah, well you know how that happens right”? we chat a bit more, she discusses when the kids are with their dad, when they are with her [hmmm why would she mention this], she asks my name. I take her hand and hold it while she asks me three more times what my name is (a little loud in here). Just extend my hand a bit and make her extend all the way over. Hold it for a good 30 seconds. Full eye contact the whole time, but I do glance from time to time at the corners of her eyes where she has just the beginnings of a wrinkle [and I know she frets about and this puts her in a defensive position via sub communication] she says she has to run, a bit flustered, and her order is up. OK Take care.
Point is, pre game knowledge I would have ignored her. Game knowledge, I know she is attracted, I know as a single mom she will look for no strings attached windows when she is DTF. The rest is just an interlude.
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Outstanding story. And what some unmarried dudes may not understand is that to married dudes like us, this “successful” interaction is a huge victory. It ain’t as good as actually taking this interaction to the sack, but it’s the knowing that you can (and may) that is key. These daily interactions are what keep a man feeling alive inside. Gotta keep your game-cardio up after all! lol.
Case in point, the other day I’m at the grocery store after work. Had to get pet food (one item). Cute Latina is in front of me with her two young kids. She sees my one item and says I can go in front of her. In my pre red pill days I would have just said thanks and went on my way. This time, I said, “Thank you kindly. I owe you one.” Now, why would I say I owe her one. In my mind, saying this will make her wonder how I’ll get in touch with her again to pay her back. I then tell her she has cute kids and how they remind me of my own and how I wanted eight kids but that number dropped after each kid and multiple pets. She’s all smiles and drops the line, “Yeah, their father wanted lots of kids too ….” Full stop! Prior to red pill I never would have noticed the subtlety of what she said. She didn’t say, “My husband.” She said, “Their father.” To me that was either her opening the door for a future fling with a single mom, or her subconscious hampster dissing her current husband by not admitting she had one. Either way, I could have carried it further and asked for a number and I’m sure she would have given it to me. But I was cool with going my own way and winking at her as I left.
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Sentient, no offense, but it shouldn’t take a game blog to tell you that when a woman looks at you for several weeks, then finally sits down next to you and says hello — that she *might* be interested. Come on now.
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and?
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I was just surprised that, pre-Chateau, your game knowledge was so lacking that you would’ve missed all of that. I mean, she might as well have been setting off pyrotechnics that spelled “fuck me” in the sky.
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TSW, has any man ever respected you?
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Any man? Hell… any SENTIENT being?
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“GAME knowledge kicks in and the calculations are done in a fraction of a second.”
This is the part I have to force myself to keep practicing as a mumble or word stumble at jump can be fatal. So I try and try again.
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For this sort of discussion this site can be quite useful: http://www.mybodygallery.com/index.html
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Of interest:
“So what size was Marilyn Monroe actually? Luckily, many of her dresses, carefully preserved, are still around to measure off of. Further, one of her dress makers also chimed in with exact measurements he took. Those measurements were 5 ft. 5.5 inches tall; 35 inch bust; 22 inch waist (approximately 2-3 inches less than the average American woman in the 1950s and 12 inches less than average today); and 35 inch hips, with a bra size of 36D. Her weight fluctuated a bit through her career, usually rising in times of depression and falling back to her normal thereafter, but her dressmaker listed her as 118 pounds and the Hollywood studios tended to list her between 115-120 lbs.”
http://www.todayifoundout.com/index.php/2012/04/marilyn-monroe-was-not-even-close-to-a-size-12-16/
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@Sentient – the two times in my life I’ve made out with genuine HB8.5-9s (both models), I’ve always been instinctively surprised by how slim their waists are and how easy it was to put my hands around them..it is just virtually unheard of to be able to do that to most women nowadays
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I know right? When I met my wife it blew my mind I could almost put my hands all the way around her waist, probably 22 – 23 inches then. Lot’s of guys post about narrow waists being bad for childbearing, that’s BS. Wife has had 5 kids all natural births.
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http://fusion.net/story/41833/wealth-gap-calculator-are-you-in-the-millennial-one-percent/
There’s some truth to this story – Millenials are unemployed or underemployed or working in a field unrelated to their degrees, and thus swimming in six-figure student loan debt.
Then the writer started down the attack-of-the-Millenial-1%ers-route about 1/3 of the way into the story, saying its dominated by white males (gasp!). He uses words like “affluent” and “prestigious” to lead readers to believing these Millenial 1% white males were somehow magically placed into these positions in a “self-perpetuating income pattern.” Etc. etc. blah blah.
This story might be more up Captain Capitalism’s alley, but CH might be interested.
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pear shape is complicated. There are bad ones for sure. On the other hand a B cup with not too prominent shoulders may take this shape with child bearing hips and a good ass. If there is a good 20 BMI with a flat stomach, more or less with the fat never appearing above the waist but rather modestly filling in soothly around the ass and thighs, you are in business. So in other words it hits the 2/3 waist to hip ratio , only that the upper body is not as well balanced as an hour glass.
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this plus 1000
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Slightly disagree with the lack of sex for rotund body types. Thirsty betas approach my woman’s fat roommate all the time. At first I thought she was making it up for attention whoring feels, but I have witnessed it myself many times now. I guess it just goes to show that thirsty betas are just as much to blame as women when it comes to the state of American women….no incentive for fatties to change if thirsty betas will be supplicating themselves for some desperate sex/affection anyways.
[CH: if you follow the link provided in the post, you’ll read a study that found fat chicks get less sex than thin chicks. and no surprise that this result agrees with most every man’s (and woman’s) real world observations.
listen, i know it’s a strongly held MRA belief that thirsty beta and omega males are lining up to pork disgusting fatties, but it just doesn’t happen that way. fatties suffer in the LTR AND the sex markets.
yes, it’s true there are lots of thirsty dudes, and that sometimes these dudes dumpster dive to relieve their blue balls. but the fact remains that fat chicks are not getting as much sex as they could if they were thin and sexy. men exercise choice, even thirsty betas exercise choice, and those male preferences have real world consequences for women who fall below the ideal for their sex.]
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I see it all the time. How a guy can make peace with the fact that his girlfriend will never look good in a bikini, I’ll never understand. America is like Thailand for women.
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Or like The Gambia with white men.
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Although British men are apparently even worse when it comes to going after porkers:
Link
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True CH, although I was thinking more along the lines of dumpy chicks who’s identification as fatty is somewhat offset by the legions of obese. I mean a big fat chick is of course a desperate, miserable, undersexed thing.
But I do see a lot of guys out there, paired up with girls who will simply never look good naked. Sure they aren’t obese, but they are saddle bag chubsters to some degree, and they do land guys who seem to have made peace with the whole situation.
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I’ve often told, here at the chateau, of the two absolutely rotund women I personally knew (one extreme pear, a neighbor with two kids… the other, a true land whale, violin teacher to my own children, back in the day) who immediately were married again in less than a year after their husbands divorced them… and no, they weren’t cheating before the divorce.
And it wasn’t like they were super-sweet or had “beautiful faces”… Kee-Ryst, both had kids in tow and STILL latched onto another guy before the ink was even dry on the divorce papers.
Still (((shakin’ mah haid))) over it.
And this is why nothing will improve in the West until the Apocalypse… or at least a depression severe enough to make the Weimar Republic look like a minor inconvenience.
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What CH is trying to point out is: fat chicks may have dudes after them, but the sex they do get is definitely underwhelming.
Think of being a vending machine getting nothing but pennies.
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The good or bad sex is a moot point… the real issue is men putting up with anything… and I mean anything… for what is probably bad sex…
… which makes it all the more galling, and a sure sign that nothing is going to get better in the West while women don’t have to worry about where the next meal is coming from.
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Another possibility is that fat chicks will select and chase men who, while maybe not actually thirsty enough to want them, are too shy to dump them, and end up marrying them. IOW, these betas will seem alpha to them because they’re not thirsty, but they’re too beta to tell them to go stuff their pie holes. So while beta thirstiness may be part of the problem, another factor is that many landwhales aggressively try to get married, whereas hotties don’t.
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I think the instance of a man too shy to NOT say no to landwhale who was pursuing him for matrimony is apocryphal, at best.
And if so, well… some guys just deserve whatever misfortune falls their way due to lack of sack.
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I was once at a wedding and one of the guests (a normal young guy in good shape) was with a horrifyingly fat creature. Short AND insanely fat. My father and I observe their dance floor lumbering. He looks at me and says “I’d rather die of celibacy.” I reply “it would be easier to step over her than to walk around her.”
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Did the young guy come off as very shy and awkward to you?
One of my male cousins is extremely shy. I never knew him to have had a girlfriend. He does make good money now, but unfortunately he has recently hooked up with a very outgoing landwhale.
I don’t know how common shy man / outgoing landwhale couples are, but they’re fully understandable.
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Your future wife: http://deadspin.com/tinder-girls-icebreaker-just-fucked-edelman-no-lie-1683702726
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Could have been worse… coulda been Wilson.
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The last girl I was with had a really good curvy hip waist, (probably a pear), but she was a bit thick and pushing it. Fun for a while banging her. Doggy was most doable position because when she was on top, it was just too much weight flailing around. I couldnt concentrate on my dick, all I felt was pressure from her thighs. And one glimpse of a slightly cratered ass in a full length mirror and I could feel recoil. She looked like 2 distinct people, below waist was thick, bootylishous. Above was smaller. Visually very appealing to me, but the practicality of throwing her around in hot steamy passions wasn’t possible for my body frame. She had 30 lbs on me. Time will not be kind to her, she will chunk out.
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>Top Pentagon officials and a senior Democrat in Congress so distrusted Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton’s 2011 march to war in Libya that they opened their own diplomatic channels with the Gadhafi regime in an effort to halt the escalating crisis, according to secret audio recordings recovered from Tripoli.
>Gadhafi’s son and heir apparent, Seif Gadhafi, told American officials in the secret conversations that he was worried Mrs. Clinton was using false pretenses to justify unseating his father and insisted that the regime had no intention of harming a mass of civilians. He compared Mrs. Clinton’s campaign for war to that of the George W. Bush administration’s now debunked weapons of mass destruction accusations, which were used to lobby Congress to invade Iraq, the tapes show.
>“It was like the WMDs in Iraq. It was based on a false report,” Gadhafi said in a May 2011 phone call to Rep. Dennis J. Kucinich, an Ohio Democrat serving at the time. “Libyan airplanes bombing demonstrators, Libyan airplanes bombing districts in Tripoli, Libyan army killed thousands, etc., etc., and now the whole world found there is no single evidence that such things happened in Libya.”
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/jan/28/hillary-clinton-undercut-on-libya-war-by-pentagon-/
>Hillary Clinton’s ‘WMD’ moment: U.S. intelligence saw false narrative in Libya
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/jan/29/hillary-clinton-libya-war-genocide-narrative-rejec/?page=all#pagebreak
>Secret Benghazi report reveals Hillary’s Libya war push armed al Qaeda-tied terrorists
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/feb/1/hillary-clinton-libya-war-push-armed-benghazi-rebe/
>Listen to the tapes: Intel undercuts Hillary Clinton’s primary argument for Libya military action
http://www.washingtontimes.com/listen-tapes-libya-clinton/
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In keeping with the theme of the other shapes named for fruits, I say rotund = Baked Potato.
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lol
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Speaking of female body types, R.I.P Bruce Jenner 😦 If you can’t beat ’em, join ’em? Another casualty of the Kardashian Imperative.
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I saw his phiz, post-XY, on some mag at the grocery aisle the other day… I literally felt visceral shame.
Beyond The Valley Of The Haid-Shakes
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I see that he got another cereal endorsement
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Too droll.
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It almost makes you wonder if there isn’t some mk-Ultra style (see wiki) project behind some of the bizzarity and self destruction.
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Negatory on that. Science improves sawbones’ skillz. These “famous” clowns happen to have shitloads of money. Sawbones lo-o-oves them some money, and there’s more and more of them every day.
Ultra,MK/Naomi, Operation Gladio, Templars nor nuthin else need be invoked. Just the inevitable separation of suggestible fools from their wedge BAMN.
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If the only way to have value is to be a woman, I guess none of us should be surprised. #shameonSuperbowlshaming
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Bizarre.
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For purely classification purposes, where do you put Avril Lavigne? Skinny, not enough WHR to be hourglass but definitely more curves than the average banana.
[CH: she’s one of those mini bananas.]
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Banana. I like banana.
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Total slut. I’d estimate her vaj has played host to ~15 cocks.
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Whatever. Would smash, would like it. Was referring to body type anyway not how thirsty she is
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You don’t need my approval. My estimation of her cock count is not a charge on your taste in women.
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Listen to what the women say:
A sign of the times we live in.
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I’m wondering if any responses were edited out…
Of course, the questioner had to be a negro… and the women’s responses they showed laid on the mudsharking extra thick.
I think it’s more a sign of the YKW media rather than the times in which we live… but point taken.
Wish the spade would have stopped me on the street and asked. Hilarity would have ensued to the point where the editors would have gnashed teeth on whether to cut or keep lzozlzozlzozlzozlozlozlozl.
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Don’t get jealous Greg, I’ll be your black friend.
You’re like my very own Casper the Friendly Ghost.
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Friends come and go, thwack… but enemies accumulate.
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Heh, heh… the lawn jockey holds up his lamp and imagines himself a luminary.
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Why not use your original moniker, Thwack? Be black and proud, my brother.
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It was brought up in another thread but will someone please address the disappearance of GB4GM? I always wondered if it was Greg Eliot.
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I had nothing to do with his disappearance. LZLZOZLZOZLZOZLZOZLZOLZOLZOZLOZLOZOLZ
If you meant you thought I was his alter ego or he mine, well… you flatter me and do him an injustice.
Indeed, I often pay his free-wheeling style homage.
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yeah but guys look at ashley graham ‘rock’ this tiny bikini in the swimsuit edition. see size 14 is beautiful now
http://www.etonline.com/news/159150_ashley_graham_rocks_tiny_bikini_sports_illustrated_swimsuit_ad/
the comments need a major injection of reality
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Well, truth be told, she may be at the upper limit of my personal acceptability… but still acceptable.
Would-bang… so sue me, I likes ’em big, so long as they still resemble the female of the species.
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she’s very proportionate for a big girl, has a great hourglass shape and doesn’t look too lumpy so that adds points for sure. most fatties aren’t so lucky.
too big to risk any long term entanglements with because she’s likely to turn into jabba the hutt at any minute but i have to admit, i do find her somewhat bangable. surprised myself with that one.
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Gentlemen. Bangable =/= desirable. Just like what comes out of my ass is technically edible.
Ashley is obviously cute and 90-nth percentile for chicks anyway. But she’s just a bit overweight. Fact. Plus – with any girl, imagine the chubb splayed in the cold harsh light of the post-coital morn and then tell me there isn’t a part of you that thinks “could do better”.
Always preferred a lean girl who I can throw around instead of a lumpen chubbster I feel like I’m servicing. It’s like taking a Maserati for a spin on a Saturday morning vs loading the station wagon on a Sunday eve.
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Fat gurlz still be fat, no matter what size the bikini! Nothing 6 months of a paleo diet couldn’t cure.
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Bro – you need to add me to your blogroll.
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Never though I’d see Hartisti employ the use of ‘goddess’ to describe a desirable feemail. Must be getting a little soft in his old age 😉
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I must admit, I actually prefer the banana over the hourglass – something about athletic thin women…
Current girlfriend has the hourglass shape though, so I won’t complain.
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Weird, but I go with the pear. The the rest follows in the same order.
Of course , low fat deposits are the prerequisite.
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