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A European Man On American Women

February 20, 2015 by CH

A European man living in the US has a few thoughts to share about American women. He’s quoted in full.

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So these are my thoughts from a West European man living in the US who had had multiple of women from all continents (my accent and looks cause a storm in the US)

I have read this quite excellent blog and it actually saddens me but does not disappoint me what is written here based on my own experiences.
Of course I speak in general terms, one of the stories above is about a German woman so exception do of course happen. Hence no comments about ‘ but I met a French lady and she blah blah blah’

Basically in short and across the board – American women are not worth shit. They are trash pure and simple and it’s only getting worse. I have had lots of success with them and the more I seduce, the more disappointed I am with them.
Hardly any white American women in their 20s know how to cook, very very few know how to flirt seductively, most of them are defensive tired manginas.
It is quite frightening how competitive white schoolgirls in the US are taught to be particularly in sports and they take this competitive nastiness into the workplace.
In short they are very undesirable and then we have the games. Oh the games – how any man can build a communication of basic trust with an American woman is beyond me.
From the very off if you interact with an American woman (even if you have zero interest) she will think – that you think she is amazing (they always pedestalize themselves) and automatically go on the defensive.
Then if she does like you – it’s play the games of not replying to your text, ignoring your text then replying. Hot/cold – again is she worth all this? Nope.
Certainly not future mother material if she cannot be trusted or show respect to respond to a text.

Also I find them very boring. One example only last week – in a bar met a very attractive Boston girl ( I find blondes from the East coast largely very boring) and she bored me for two hours.
The following night I met an attractive Latina and it was flirtatious, fun, lots of body contact and then dancing. A very enjoyable night.

Based on my experiences if you date girls from the Catholic countries in Europe – it is fun and an adventurous.
The girls are out to meet a future husband eventually for sure – but right now they want great, fun experiences – good food, travel, dancing, laughing.
I have met so many warm blooded amazing women who are fun, laid back, love children, fantastic cooks, great sensual lovers and definitely future mother material.

Similar enjoyment with Asians (not American born) – Vietnamese particularly pleasurable, Africans and Indians.

American girls leave university and it’s – find great job (check), find man (check) and the sterile life of consumerism and acquiring wealth and stuff begins. It’s tedious.

One of the problems is you American dudes in that you out up with this shit. The cheerleading thing still amazes me how this happens.
Kids start trying out to be a cheerleader as soon as they reach puberty and are out on a pedestal form that early age. Cheerleading (or slut training) needs to be stopped.
That will end the self -entitled narcissism of American females.

In short American females like to be treated rough as it taps into their puritanical guilt (spanking) feeling associated with sex but mainly because they like being treated like trash because they are trash.

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This concept of female self-pedestalization needs more air time. It’s funny when an average-looking woman assumes a man who’s asking for her insurance info after she rams his car is hitting on her. That wee womanly hamster requires constant tending.

Look, American women aren’t as bad as this reader insists, but they are getting worse. I’ve heard similar surprised laments from European men mired in the American dating scene. Are all these guys irrationally spiteful? Presumably they have experience with European women, so they’re in a good position to compare and draw conclusions.

I’ve dated my share of European girls. Maybe my selection filter is sterling, but none of them were a horrible experience. I haven’t had that many bad experiences with American women, either, but then my threshold for what constitutes an irritatingly bad romantic experience is probably higher than what most men could tolerate or even enjoy. If you know women well, what makes them tick, you’re better prepared to brush off or redirect the eccentricities of their sex toward something mutually fulfilling. In fact, you come to enjoy their little games, because you deal with them as a mindfucker equal. As a man confident in his ability to swat away the natural female compulsions that so infuriate romantically naive men with less experience in the pooning fields.

Female courtship games are like “getting hotter/colder” signposts pointing you in the direction of pleasure, or away from it.

On the whole, I’d say the European women I loved were more feminine than their American counterparts, but I’d bet this reader is Spanish or Provencal French and has a distinct preference for the sunnier girls of South Europe, biasing him against white American women who are, mostly, Anglo-Germanic and thus by disposition colder and more careerist than the Southern Euro female norm.

That’s my hunch. I could be wrong. Certainly, there are Northern European men, especially the ones willing to live overseas, who like the exotic and are easily captivated by the raw, seductive vibe of women from milder, less crisply K, regions of the world. If this reader is one of them, then it’s not surprising he would be put off by American women who aren’t, underneath the hood, all that different than his native Northern Euro dating prospects.

In news that will prove to be relevant to this post once you think about it for a second, another American female teacher is accused of banging her high school students — six of them in total (she’s a busy gal). Female teacher pedofucking has got to be on the rise; there have been too many stories in the past few years like this one to count. Is it something in the water? Nah. I think what we are seeing is the leading edge of a culture speeding into full scale disintegration. As American men become more beta and androgynous, American women feel more intense cravings for psychologically dimorphic badboys. This slutty teacher phenomenon is an extreme manifestation of a general American woman romantic ennui caused by an enfeebling of the (adult, white) men available to them. Part of this male enfeeblement is itself caused by a legal and extralegal punitive bias against traditionally European expressions of masculinity.

American men are hamstrung, in other words. And it’s the result of a deliberate progressivist project as well as a self-imposed generational gelding.

Maybe the amplifying lust for jerks and the growing disgust for betas are hardening American women. Instead of coaxing women’s femininity to come out and shine, the badboys are having a grand noncommittal time exploiting a sexual market starved for their special brand of lovingkindness, and dispirited women are flailing to gain leverage against their own darkest, desirous urges. The Pillsbury Betaboys meanwhile are trying harder than ever, supplicating and prostrating themselves until all life is drained out of vaginas subject to their anhedonic pleadings.

The naive man dips his toe in the American dating scene and discovers the women are mannish, narcissistic killjoys, having surrendered their femininity on the altars of social media attention whoring, obesity, and careerism. The question hangs: Is it too late to fix American women? Or is the fate of the West shackled to the dead weight of all these androgynes?

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  1. on February 20, 2015 at 8:14 am A European Man On American Women | Manosphere.com

    […] A European Man On American Women […]

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    • on February 20, 2015 at 1:16 pm HopenChange

      ” If you know women well, what makes them tick, you’re better prepared to brush off or redirect the eccentricities of their sex toward something mutually fulfilling. In fact, you come to enjoy their little games, because you deal with them as a mindfucker equal. As a man confident in his ability to swat away the natural female compulsions that so infuriate romantically naive men with less experience in the pooning fields.”

      See, this is exactly where the problem lies. Those men that through self-proclaimed “enjoyment” – come on, really? enjoyment?? – perpetuate the ability of women to play these pathetic games, by playing along with them, are exactly what allow them to perpetuate such games. No man, who naturally attempts the path of least resistance, will put up with these games UNLESS it is specifically for their fear of losing this particular partner or being unable to find another comparable one. It is specifically this mindset that allows American women to keep up with this nonsense. Honestly, this type of thinking I find to be in rash contrast to most of what CH rightfully professes.

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      • on February 20, 2015 at 3:36 pm thanatos

        “See, this is exactly where the problem lies. Those men that through self-proclaimed “enjoyment” – come on, really? enjoyment?? – perpetuate the ability of women to play these pathetic games, by playing along with them, are exactly what allow them to perpetuate such games.”

        You literally cannot stop them from doing it. Even by giving them examples of a less irritating and more mutually beneficial way to interact.They will always revert back to their lizard brain programming in these matters. I have tried over and over. There’s no way to do it. The only thing you can do is tie them up so they are not doing it to someone else, and as a more romantically-experienced man, they are not doing you any emotional or psychological harm. The only thing that works is playing along, but redirecting them into doing something that you find more enjoyable.

        I have come to believe that playing these games is like a Tourettes Syndrome tic that most women have as a result of their condition of being female.Every sexually healthy woman knows how to play them from the time she is born, no matter her level of intelligence,training in sexual matters by men or other females, or her level of personal experience with men. And women,like the lab rat that kept pressing the button for a hit of cocaine rather than food or water until it died,for some reason,simply cannot bring themselves to stop doing it.

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      • on February 20, 2015 at 7:21 pm da GBFM lzzzzzzzlzlz (TM)

        10,000 VIEWS CAN’T BE WRONG!!! LZOZZZZZZZZ

        10,000 VIEWS CAN’T BE WRONG!!! LZOZZZZZZZZ

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    • on February 20, 2015 at 5:17 pm Gerhard Tamson

      Right wing doom-mongers are too quick to confirm the suspicions of the left. Any time you claim that left-wing programs are successfully socializing women to be men and men to be women, you deny basic biological constants that prevent this from actually happening.

      In my opinion, more basic explanations are in order. White American women likely overestimate their SMV based on attention from non-white males and subsequent correction from white males – the European man’s findings are predictive of this. Alternately, feminism could be viewed as a strategy to increasing social female value to society, pumping their heads with visions of power augmented by the natural fact that women tend to be valued more highly than men in society on account of their reproductive capacity.

      It’s a simple market disruption, not an existential rewiring of essential femaleness.

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      • on February 20, 2015 at 5:27 pm Gerhard Tamson

        Also, he claims to be a “European man”, but he could just as easily be a naturalized arab. In that case, it wouldn’t be surprising that he was getting shut down by white women in America.

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      • on February 20, 2015 at 6:16 pm irishsavant

        Most of what the guy says about American women is true and it makes them deeply unattractive, especially the competitiveness and pedestalising. The problem is that those exact traits are increasingly manifest in European women as well, especially those from northern Europe.

        Maybe biological programming will rescue them and us from the Cultural Marxist wreckers.

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      • on February 20, 2015 at 6:20 pm R

        Gerhard
        He is not getting shut down – did you read the article? The more he seduces the less he admires them.

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      • on February 20, 2015 at 6:34 pm Gerhard Tamson

        R – that could just as easily be classic fox and grapes mentality. Do you take everything you read at face value?

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      • on February 20, 2015 at 6:49 pm Gerhard Tamson

        His comparison between American blondes and American non-whites is also predictive of fox and grapes style thinking because American blondes have the highest SMV whereas the non-whites he mentions simply don’t.

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      • on February 20, 2015 at 11:33 pm Carlos Danger

        I recommend going to Europe one summer on vacation and observing our women and the local women side by side. Our women are boorish, easier, and less attractive. It would be embarrassing if it weren’t so sad.

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      • on February 21, 2015 at 3:13 am Gerhard Tamson

        That’s a given, and you have Jewish culture to thank for it. Still, not relevant to my post.

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      • on February 21, 2015 at 10:53 am Arbiter

        This is some greaseball Med, or Arab, Kurd or Turk, talking crap as so many of them. Always hating the Germanics whose work, money and inventions they live off. And OF COURSE he will claim that he is oh-so-successful with the women he hates, they all say that. In reality: they won’t give him the time of day, hence his shit-talking and bragging.

        Interesting to note how many are unable to see through this typical pattern.

        I bet you’re the same ones who believe Gypsy beggars/thieves when they say they “came looking for work but are now forced to beg”, and you think that when they carry a crutch that must mean their legs are bad. Because why ever would the darkies lie, right?

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      • on February 21, 2015 at 11:59 pm Gerhard Tamson

        I doubt he’s med, Northern European girls like Mediterranean men. He’s probably some arab creep.

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      • on February 23, 2015 at 10:14 am GustavoM

        “my accent and looks cause a storm in the US”

        Arab for sure.

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      • on February 23, 2015 at 2:29 pm Hymen Mingesky

        Eh, this is a (despite its great insights from Ole CH, and a select few commenters) a PUA site; expect a lot of Shitthatdidnthappen.txt.

        [CH: you could say that about the entire internet. we’re in the golden age of shitthatdidnthappen.txt]

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    • on February 20, 2015 at 11:17 pm Poindexter

      It seems unlikely the reason for the increase in female pedo teachers is due to their fancying the badboys. I see nothing age-related about that phenomenon; they could just as well go for older badboys… unless I am missing something?

      It seems to me that it’s more like the opposite: they want naive, malleable sex objects over whom they can exert control and domination. In other words, feminism has allowed for the expression of their formerly repressed masculine, yet still heterosexual, urges. Also, it may be the desire to recapture their fading youth — like some homosexual men try to achieve a masculinity they feel they do not naturally possess — by fucking it. These women are also psychologically broken, too, and are expressing a predatory urge, as well as an antisocial bent.

      If it were simply disgust for betas — which I agree exists almost universally in women — we’d see rampant female pedo-teachers in Sweden and other “strictly enforced” feminist paradises where conformism and the Law of Jante cow men into social and sexual submission. But all the evidence of female teachers choosing underage males appears to come out of the U.S. and a few in the U.K.

      I generally agree with CH, but I think this time it’s a case of fitting the evidence to suit the theory. I am willing to hear arguments to the contrary, though.

      Also, one thing confuses me about calling Southern European countries “mildly K-selecting”: Italy and Spain have the lowest birthrate in Europe — non-breeders even for a continent of non-breeders. That fact has perplexed me for a while now; it’s just so counter-intuitive.

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      • on February 21, 2015 at 10:57 am Arbiter

        An increase? Where did you see any numbers? You have seen some news pieces in the media, but nothing about an increase. “cow men into social and sexual submission” LOL Always funny to hear Americans think they know something about the outside world. You’re the same people who couldn’t place Ukraine on the map even after four months of daily news broadcasts last spring. Placing it in Britain, France, Africa, the Middle East, China, Southeast Asia, South America, and Alaska. Americans should just shut the fuck up about the rest of the world. Don’t think knowing some little detail you’ve picked up from some comment section makes you an expert, buddy, even though I can see it is useful in duping other Americans.

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      • on February 21, 2015 at 3:56 pm me

        Oh, they’d probably love to go for older bad boys, but it’s pretty unlikely those older bad boys would go for them. Have you seen the photos of those pedo teachers?

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      • on February 22, 2015 at 12:40 am Carlos Danger

        Good jobs are tough to come by in much of Southern Europe, which is a major factor.

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  2. on February 20, 2015 at 8:20 am anon

    This bloke absolutely nailed it. Spot on dead on balls accurate. Bravo. And one need not be a European man to realize these facts.

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    • on February 21, 2015 at 10:58 am Arbiter

      This is some greaseball Med, or Arab, Kurd or Turk, talking crap as so many of them. Always hating the Germanics whose work, money and inventions they live off. And OF COURSE he will claim that he is oh-so-successful with the women he hates, they all say that. In reality: they won’t give him the time of day, hence his shit-talking and bragging.

      Interesting to note how many are unable to see through this typical pattern. I bet you’re the same ones who believe Gypsy beggars/thieves when they say they “came looking for work but are now forced to beg”, and you think that when they carry a crutch that must mean their legs are bad. Because why ever would the darkies lie, right?

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      • on February 21, 2015 at 9:37 pm P

        I am surprised to see my comment as a main post.
        No – as the author I am quite successful with American women. I do not value them now, they are boring and do not know how to flirt or be sensual.
        I turn them down. I get alot of attention from American white women. I do not find african americans attractive so do not go near them. I get alot of attention from American women at work, in the day time – so not just bar types.
        Nothing to do with getting one up on America – nothing to do about military complex lol.
        My post was to say ‘ American guys you need to look elsewhere – I understand why you feel the need to play game. Do not put up with this mediocrity and shit’.
        Some American friends date eastern European women – they know.

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  3. on February 20, 2015 at 8:21 am dastardlyrake

    “The girls are out to meet a future husband eventually for sure – but right now they want great, fun experiences – good food, travel, dancing, laughing.”

    Tradcons need to drop the “only marry virgins” meme if they want the volk to reproduce. Sex is often used as conflict resolution in primate societies, some sharing perhaps greases the gears of civilization. besides, who wants to eat the same meal every day for the rest of his life?

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    • on February 20, 2015 at 2:14 pm antirationalist

      I don’t share beers, beds and vaginas with other men, I guess we’re different.

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      • on February 23, 2015 at 11:11 pm dastardlyrake

        As far as you know. But then you are an anti rationalist.

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      • on February 23, 2015 at 11:22 pm dastardlyrake

        As an antirationalist I have no doubt in your ability to to keep the deceptive sex monogamous

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    • on February 20, 2015 at 2:29 pm FilthyMattress

      Your blog is brilliant, never stop writing Cad. I am eager to hear more tales of the vibrant Red Line and its denizens.

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      • on February 23, 2015 at 11:12 pm dastardlyrake

        Thank you. Much more is cumming.

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      • on February 23, 2015 at 11:17 pm dastardlyrake

        Also, please explain what is this Red Line and its denizens?

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    • on February 20, 2015 at 3:49 pm ho

      TradCons want you to marry “reformed sluts” and single moms.

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      • on February 23, 2015 at 11:23 pm dastardlyrake

        tradcons are unaware of their philosophy’s contradiction with the world

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    • on February 21, 2015 at 9:12 am Bill Brasky

      You like yours pre-digested, I take it?

      Did you miss the part about their defensiveness, bitterness, hatred of men, etc?

      Sounds like you are making a virtue out of what has become a necessity – fucking dirty, spoiled, spiritually ugly sluts who want you to choke them and fuck their shit hole.

      Then ten years later some stupid faggot marries them, and they get to play “wife” and “mother”.

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      • on February 23, 2015 at 11:10 pm dastardlyrake

        I’m not making a virtue out of reality, I am only regurgitating reality

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      • on February 23, 2015 at 11:26 pm dastardlyrake

        I am not making a virtue out of reality, I am simply regurgitating it. Your demographic desires demand that men reproduce with non virgins. If your goal is reproduction among the desired races, than have no shame in recognizing who the foot soldiers are.

        You are still blue bill. A woman wants to be submitted. A woman is a genetic inheritor of the genes of war brides, virgin or not. Your virgin is no different and would get wet reading fifty shades of gray but would lie to you about the humidity of her panties.

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    • on February 21, 2015 at 9:38 am J.M.

      So it’s “marry the whores” now? No wonder the West, specially the Anglosphere is fucked, beginning with rewarding women for their sluttiness. Besides who wants their children to be “sons of a bitch” literally?

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      • on February 23, 2015 at 11:11 pm dastardlyrake

        Your demographic desires demand that we marry the whores

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      • on February 23, 2015 at 11:27 pm dastardlyrake

        No need to marry any whores. Just reproduce with them and keep the 7th century warlords in the desert.

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      • on February 23, 2015 at 11:35 pm dastardlyrake

        Your son’s gene’s are not altered by your wife’s past sexual history. If you anglosphere breeding is your primary concern, than breed breed breed away.

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    • on February 21, 2015 at 11:00 am Arbiter

      I don’t think anyone follows the “only marry virgins” nonsense in real life. But it’s useful a a way to brag about high standards in online forums and displaying a holier-than-thou attitude. In real life, the keyboard jockeys would take anything they could get.

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      • on February 23, 2015 at 11:36 pm dastardlyrake

        Yes. Most girls lose their virginity in high school. It is numerically impossible for everyone to marry virgins and for the anglosphere to breed at replacement levels.

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    • on February 27, 2015 at 12:22 am slag rocker

      I agree as long I am being shared (preferably with a host of lucky women.) Doing the sharing on the other hand , even in primitive times (with some exceptions) is never going to add up well for the man. No matter if its risk of her carrying another mans seed, an energy draining, painful or deadly disease or simply leaving you high and dry for a new alpha, none of them fair well for us men. A simple glance at human nature, plus all the knowledge this blog alone has bestowed upon us, will tell you that unlike men, the vast majority of women cannot and do not just “fuck” simply for the pleasure of doing so…they mate and pair and get wet for various other reasons, and are usually unfaithful for far more nutty reasons than just busting a nut. If women could swap and fuck the way men can (with very little to no emotional attachment) then we wouldnt need game. We would all have been stuck in a maddening orgy and died off as a race a long time ago.

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      • on February 27, 2015 at 12:13 pm dastardlyrake

        Slag, the gorilla harem of 1 promiscuous male with several faithful females deprives a large number of males of reproduction and in and of itself encourages civil unrest.

        As creatures of higher intelligence, I do not believe that the key to our advancement is to give into our baser instincts of mate competition. The logical conclusion of submission the shadowy orders of our genetic past is single male, multi-female harems.

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  4. on February 20, 2015 at 8:22 am C

    Maybe you should make an effort to meet American women who don’t hang out in bars….

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    • on February 20, 2015 at 9:35 am Ripp

      Its a start. Still however the cutie at Starbucks coming back from the gym can easily morph into super slut bar slore.

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      • on February 20, 2015 at 2:28 pm Hopeychangey

        Both creatures you mentioned are one in the same in my land

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    • on February 20, 2015 at 12:59 pm Olay Dave

      As if the on-line crowd is any different? How so?

      I think his description is accurate overall; especially about the self-pedestalization, which is way out of hand!

      Just broke off with two different 50+, skinny redheads. Each had two degrees, could bike or run long distances and were tourists in several countries, but neither couldn cook anything. Boiling water was a mystery. Each was at most a 4.5 and yet, each thought she was solid 6.5-7. Simply delusional!

      See them both still on-line, trolling for a sugar daddy/sucker to “paste” into their busy lives. Maybe I’ll get them crazy cat lady starter kits!

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      • on February 21, 2015 at 11:02 am Arbiter

        As for cooking, I wonder why people assume that women from other parts of the world would be able to cook. Some of them can, others don’t. I have met all kinds. That’s one meme that needs to stop.

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      • on February 21, 2015 at 6:59 pm C

        The women you are looking for don’t hang out in bars, post profiles on dating sites, send messages to guys who post on dating sites. The women you are looking for are not objectifying themselves. Go about your business doing things you are genuinely interested in and stop trying to pick up chicks. This isn’t rocket science.

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    • on February 22, 2015 at 2:10 pm Captain Obvious

      > ”Maybe you should make an effort to meet American women who don’t hang out in bars….”

      Instead of searching for them in the bars on Saturday night, cruise the Evangelical churches on Sunday morning. More poontang than you shake an erection at. SRSLY.

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  5. on February 20, 2015 at 8:23 am Philomathean

    “Pedofucking”… More precisely: “Hebefucking”.

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    • on February 20, 2015 at 12:26 pm Tim

      True. Fair’s fair.

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    • on February 20, 2015 at 6:26 pm irishsavant

      Not sure I get your drift on that….

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      • on February 20, 2015 at 8:00 pm Philomathean

        Hebephilia.

        The girl cited is not a pedophile. Pedos are attracted to humans lacking secondary sex characteristics.

        I have a history of dating younger women and have been slandered by slatterns hurling vajhurt pedo accusations my way because my cock doesn’t flinch at most women their ages, usually 30+.

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  6. on February 20, 2015 at 8:33 am SC

    It’s not just White American women. It’s obvious that this man is French or Italian, because they are used to having very beautiful women in those countries. Also, Southern European women are less feminist than Northern European women. He would be just as disappointed if he went to England/Ireland/Germany/Netherlands/Sweden. Some of it is indeed feminist crap, some of it is genetic and unavoidable. It’s not Northern Europeans’ fault that we’re just not as good looking as the French and Italians. It’s not entirely our fault that we are genetically more prone to obesity. White Americans and Northern Europeans need to stop stuffing themselves with junk food but even if we adopted French/Italian lifestyles, we would lose weight but still not be as thin as them.

    Lets face it; the situation of White American and Northern European women is partly due to feminism, cultural decline, and bad eating habits, but it is also partly due to genetics. Fat apologists think that 0% of Northern European obesity is preventable; they are wrong. MRAs think that 100% of Northern European obesity is preventable; they are equally wrong.

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    • on February 20, 2015 at 9:45 am Carlos Danger

      How come most women in Northern Europe aren’t fat then? Italians love Nordic or Germanic women and game them relentlessly. You see it all the time on vacation.

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      • on February 20, 2015 at 10:01 am ho

        They’re blonde and have blue eyes.

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      • on February 20, 2015 at 10:24 am Carlos Danger

        Bella Bionda!

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      • on February 20, 2015 at 10:40 am Pijama Wearing Ninja

        They’re not as fat because instead of making excuses and whining, they go for walks and workout while Americans only exercise their mouths(either through excuse making or through eating).

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      • on February 20, 2015 at 10:51 am ho

        Also, Nordics on vacation are a whole lot easier than the local chicks. Might’ve something to do with it.

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      • on February 20, 2015 at 12:30 pm corvinus

        Wrong, according to Roosh:

        http://www.rooshv.com/10-things-you-should-know-before-visiting-turkey-in-the-summer
        I think I’ve done a poor job killing the false stereotype that Swedish girls are blonde bombshells. While their genetics are pristine, modern Swedish girls look like tattooed burritos. The most beautiful girl in the world is probably Swedish, but her more numerous variant—the chubby Swedish girl with burly shoulders and a rectangle face—disgraces her ancestral line. Nonetheless, you’ll never see a Turkish man pass on a Swedish girl, no matter how grotesque and vile. That makes me wonder if Turkey is a backup plan for white women who can’t compete in their own lands.

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      • on February 20, 2015 at 5:00 pm SC

        Northern Euro women are thin compared to White American women. English/Irish/German/Dutch people still have sky high obesity rates compared to the French and Italians.

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      • on February 21, 2015 at 11:12 am Arbiter

        ho

        They’re blonde and have blue eyes.

        So the non-White Muslim “ho” claims that North Europeans are fat, but the muds go after them anyway because they are blonde with blue eyes. The ho is talking out of his ass as usual. North Europeans are among the healthiest people in the world, with far healthier eating habits than South Europeans. South Europeans eat white bread with peanut butter in the morning and think that’s a breakfast, and they smoke like chimneys, and they are supposed to be healthier? Right. North Europeans eat healthier and work out more, and Scandinavians are more active in free-time hobbies than southerners. So the myth about southerners being more social is just that.

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      • on February 21, 2015 at 11:20 am Arbiter

        Corvinus quoting the swarthy misfit Roosh, who sells books to other social failures who need an excuse for why they can’t find any women. “The American women are BAD! It’s not my fault!”

        Roosh is a pathetic joke. He writes about living in a Croatian, or was it Romanian, village with “gorgeous women”. LOL They are rat-faced, ugly criminals. They have ugly, staring masculine eyes that make them look like they have taken drugs in order to stay up without sleep for a week.

        But Roosh needs to sell books to survive, so he needs to tell his potential consumers that there are low-cost countries they can go to with “gorgeous women”. While the expensive countries are of course … bad, feminist, evil!

        Reading his crap about peoples I am familiar with is a weird experience. His lies seem taken out of thin air. But Americans couldn’t even place Ukraine on the map even after four months of daily reporting last spring – placing it in France, Britain, Africa, China, Vietnam, South America, etc – so they have proven they know nothing about the rest of the world and are easily fooled.

        While their genetics are pristine, modern Swedish girls look like tattooed burritos.

        Bullshit. Not more tattoos than in other Western countries, or in the Balkans for that matter which Roosh praises to the heavens because those are the countries he can afford. Roosh is a liar, plain and simple.

        chubby Swedish girl with burly shoulders and a rectangle face

        LOL

        Funny how the Paki Roosh never says anything about his own dirt-level people.

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      • on February 21, 2015 at 11:35 am corvinus

        Northern Euro women are thin compared to White American women.
        …not really.

        English/Irish/German/Dutch people still have sky high obesity rates compared to the French and Italians.

        Actually, I’ve seen plenty of fat eye-talians. Also, what are white Americans, basically? Yup, English/Irish/German/Dutch people living in North America.

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    • on February 20, 2015 at 10:35 am Pijama Wearing Ninja

      I think American women are shit and I like Swedish women. I think they’re often interesting and fun girls, which I can’t say of American women. And young Swedish women aren’t fat nor are Dutch women fat. You just need to stop making excuses and move your lard asses more.

      And yes, not 100% of obesity is preventable. There are people who have health issues such as hormonal problems. I suppose race mixing is good for Northern Europeans then if you’re so fucked genetically that you balloon in the presence of food without even having hormonal problems.

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    • on February 20, 2015 at 11:34 am llllooooolllzzzzzlllolll

      Italian women have big feet. And theyre Italian. So they have that against them.

      I really hate guineas. Fucking stupid hand talking loafer wearing goat fuckers.

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      • on February 21, 2015 at 11:21 am Arbiter

        Italians and Slovenians also have the fattest children in the world now. Stuffing them full of pasta, and for breakfast they get white bread with peanut butter.

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      • on February 22, 2015 at 1:32 pm Siberian Subway Masturbator

        I’m Italian and I don’t wear loafers. And everyone likes us but YOU, you BIG MEANIE!

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    • on February 20, 2015 at 11:39 am Joe

      I married an English girl and she’s made a pretty good wife. To the extent there’s been issues, it’s because I’ve been less alpha than I ought to be at times over the years. Since gulping down the red pill I’ve realized she demands leadership and sits there looking at me unitl I provide it. She’s a good girl.

      In general Euro girls seem to be better LTR material. I spent most of my misspent youth in Western Europe and the women were just a lot easier to form a genuine bond with. It was easier to bang an American girl but Teh Crazy was always just around the corner, waiting to jump up and surprise me.

      That said England has gone pretty much to shit. Chav culture has triumphed. Most of the younger women are impossibly coarse. Some of the wife’s family are English and continentals. They split pretty clearly – the downscale ones would put Kentucky trailer trash to shame with the booze, drugs, whoring around, general lack of manners and stupidity and You Go Grrl antics, the upscale ones are feminine, refined, and thoroughly attractive. Most of the general population in Northern Europe seems to be downtrending though compared to 15 or 20 years ago. The rot is spreading.

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    • on February 20, 2015 at 1:18 pm Greg Eliot

      It’s not Northern Europeans’ fault that we’re just not as good looking as the French and Italians.

      Well, the two “best all time” Frenchies were Bardot and Deneuve (sp?), who would pass for Scandinavian any time of the day.

      Sophia Loren, Gina Lollabrigida, Claudia Cardinale, okay, sure… but if you’re saying they outshone Marylin Monroe, Grace Kelley, Ingrid Bergman, et. al., well… lzozlzozlzozlzozlzozlozlozlozl.

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      • on February 20, 2015 at 2:57 pm Carlos Danger

        Sophia Loren is probably the finest woman of her Generation in Hollywood. She is a lady and never once embarrassed herself or her family. She aged well and man did she have a rack.

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      • on February 21, 2015 at 7:52 am Greg Eliot

        Sophia was the gold standard for her “type”… no question about it.

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    • on February 20, 2015 at 5:11 pm FilthyMattress

      This will be a long post. If you have the attention span of a gnat; you are not worthy of the knowledge herein contained. May your testicles shrivel and die.

      As a man of mostly (heh™) northern european extraction, I have never had a problem staying relatively lean and muscular. I don’t even own a gym membership and my jaw line and stomach remain thick, solid, and most importantly, tight. I attribute this to a high metabolic rate, which I have attained through genetic and epigenetic means.

      For those who *may* be genetically disposed to corpulence (muh genes) and are looking for an epigenetic solution, I recommend you read the writings of Dr. Raymond Peat (www.raypeat.com) who has written at length about the metabolic rate and its connections to aging and health. I don’t agree with him on everything but he has some excellent insights into how the health of our mitochondria, our metabolic rate, and our body’s health are inextricably linked.

      One other point…xenoestrogens are everywhere now and may be the driving force behind obesity in the western world [1]. A man who is interested in remaining a man, should do everything in his power to avoid them. About a year ago I stopped eating or drinking anything out of plastics, including ‘BPA free’ plastics. So called ‘BPA free’ plastics *can* have more total estrogenic activity than those containing BPA [2], as BPA is a relatively weak xenoestrogen. My libido has gradually increased, my pectoral fat deposits are gone and my tolerance for bullshit is practically nonexistent. I also started taking a couple daily grams of vitamin E (find a brand with no soy, I use Thorne) as it not only is a estrogen receptor antagonist [3], but it also functions as an aromatase inhibitor [4]. Powerful stuff.

      [1] http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0099776
      [2] http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3222987/
      [3] https://clincancerres.aacrjournals.org/content/15/12/4242.full
      [4] http://www.fasebj.org/content/18/9/1019.full

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    • on February 20, 2015 at 6:27 pm irishsavant

      Are you for real? Northern European women are WAY better looking than their southern counterparts. No contest!

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    • on February 21, 2015 at 11:08 am Arbiter

      It’s obvious that this man is French or Italian,

      It’s obvious you have never been to France. North European women look far better. Not saying this for politics, as is the typical case when people start comparing countries – it’s just a fact.

      And you say you’re from northern Europe, and French and Italians would still look better? There are attractive women there, yes. Maybe you met one, and that’s enough for you to generalize. And if you are unsuccessful in your own country, you will have an incentive to generalize. “The women in my country are crap, so it’s not my fault I can’t get any of them!” Same as when the swarthy Roosh talks about American women, and his failed audience laps it up.

      White Americans and Northern Europeans need to stop stuffing themselves with junk food

      Yeah North Europeans are far, far healthier than South Europeans. Italian and Slovenian kids are now the fattest in the world, because they are stuffed full of white bread and pasta. South Europeans love white bread, cigarettes, pasta, and do more drugs. They put fucking peanut butter on their French breadrolls in the morning, for fuck’s sake, and call that a breakfast.

      Makes me doubt your claim about living in northern Europe. Or knowing anything about regional differences.

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    • on February 21, 2015 at 5:10 pm Thorsen

      I dont think this is correct.

      When I compare the local Scandinavian girls with the South euro exchange students, the local ones usually come out on top.

      Even comparing Scandinavian and perhaps german girls to American ones, is not really accurate either.

      The US has a far greater problem with obesity, compared to all European countries. The print T-shirt, baggy pants and sneakers look is also not to common in these parts of Northern europe.

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  7. on February 20, 2015 at 8:34 am Heywood Jablome

    Focus on women 18-22 & “cut one out of the herd” if you want to train a future wife and mother.

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    • on February 20, 2015 at 8:40 am anon

      This is completely unrealistic generally, and certainly for any man currently older than 25. It’s just not going to fly in today’s environment. I don’t care how much game you apply. You will *not* have an LTR lasting any longer than 3 years (and that’s extreme) with any woman you meet who is younger than 21 at the time you meet her. She *will* move on and want to sample other dicks. That’s today’s world.

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      • on February 20, 2015 at 5:03 pm 88

        “This is completely unrealistic generally, and certainly for any man currently older than 25. It’s just not going to fly in today’s environment. I don’t care how much game you apply. You will *not* have an LTR lasting any longer than 3 years (and that’s extreme) with any woman you meet who is younger than 21 at the time you meet her. She *will* move on and want to sample other dicks. That’s today’s world.”

        unfortunately you are absolutely correct. i’d say three years is even pushing it. just based on the anecdotal evidence on this site, i’d say it’s no more than two years max. really sad state of affairs.

        one good thing about it though is that most of these young girls today won’t have kids so at least they won’t be passing this trend on to their future children. maybe things will eventually self correct after a generation or two.

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      • on February 20, 2015 at 7:06 pm Heywood Jablome

        Oh, ye of little confidence …

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      • on February 21, 2015 at 6:06 am Tilikum

        “certainly for any man currently older than 25” HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

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      • on February 21, 2015 at 11:24 am Arbiter

        Funny how Tilikum can never post anything of his own. A sign of a life with no education, no social life and zero contact with women, who he of course hates for not wanting to go near him.

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    • on February 20, 2015 at 8:23 pm bo jangles

      One thing ive consistantly noted from south america is that girls who had ltrs from their teens(often 15) to their early 20s seem to have great attitudes. So +1 for training.

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      • on February 21, 2015 at 3:02 am Heywood Jablome

        Exactly.

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    • on February 21, 2015 at 9:52 pm 88

      @Tilikum
      “certainly for any man currently older than 25″ HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

      yeah okay. we all know you can bang these sloots. big whoop.

      that’s not up for debate here. we’re talking about having these girls stick around for more than a couple years and having them actually be wife/mother material. very few of them fit that criteria. no matter how old you are.

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  8. on February 20, 2015 at 8:35 am anon

    Best post in a while and CH posts are always good. CH, as to your question at the end, I asked you that same question a few days ago. I don’t think you answered. What’s your opinion? Is there hope, or is this a runaway train at this point.

    Also, and this was brushed on in the correspondent’s letter–these young girls younger than 25 today are *really* socially awkward nerds. Like, they don’t know how to flirt, at all. They have grown up using facebook and now the other stuff (instragram etc) at an extreme level and *they* are the ones over-nervous most of the time, I have found. This is not bitter beta related to me failing shit tests. No, I’m talking about how since I have gotten better the last year really trying to channel CH and YaReally lessons, am super comfortable talking to them, flirting, at ease, alpha posture etc — the young girls are just… super air headed and with no knowledge whatsoever, for one thing. But yet there is the self-pedastilization and undeserved high opinions of themselves, of course.

    Nothing between the ears. Even after you pass shit tests, they are not “sensual” (good word the correspondent used) in bed. (And no this is not caused by me; I am good in bed.) Even if they are hot, they often lack flexibility (literally) in the legs, if you know what I mean (they apparently quit ballet before they were 8), not “sexy.” It’s not even their fault. Women are women, and like the CH view says, we smart men here do not hate them. These women are SO confused about themselves and how they should be, because they have grown up with a constant barrage of super-left-fourth-wave feminism that is REALLY REALLY dominant in all MSM, especially the last 15 years. Just look at this world right now, if you are late 30s or older, and compare right now to even 1995. A 21 or even a 26 year old woman who has come of age the past 15 years is royally effed up in the head in so many ways. A man has to lead and teach them to be able to even enjoy their own sensuality.

    And as the correspondent said also, hook up with a good Latina, and it’s so different. They purposely exude sensuality, at least, in bed. They “make love” to you or enjoy you making love to them. One can feel the difference with them compared to most white American women.

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    • on February 20, 2015 at 5:13 pm K

      “And as the correspondent said also, hook up with a good Latina, and it’s so different. They purposely exude sensuality, at least, in bed. They “make love” to you or enjoy you making love to them. One can feel the difference with them compared to most white American women.”

      +10

      the sexiest woman i’ve ever had was a latina. a little mexican i think but also brazilian or argentinian so she wasn’t built like spongebob as someone else mentioned…lol. perfect hourglass body.

      sexually inexperienced and not visibly slutty outside the bedroom but she was a natural in bed and just oozed sensuality without even trying. and she wasn’t raised by her latin family so i do think there is a genetic component to it.

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      • on February 20, 2015 at 6:29 pm R

        What about the cheerleading culture the writer mentions? It’s a uniquely American thing and goes beyond the grace of a Miss World. it’s scantily clad females shaking their booties in front of mostly beer drinking males and try outs for this slut training begins at 12 years of age.
        Literally sluts placing themselves on a pedestal.

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      • on February 20, 2015 at 7:56 pm El Capitan

        Yeah, but they are mostly shaped like Sponge Bob

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      • on February 20, 2015 at 10:49 pm K

        @El Capitan
        “Yeah, but they are mostly shaped like Sponge Bob”

        agreed

        no doubt it was the south american lineage that balanced her out. without a doubt, there are more bad mexican girl bodies than good ones.

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      • on February 21, 2015 at 8:49 am Laguna Beach Fogey

        Sponge Bob would be an improvement.

        Most of them are shaped like Kool-Aid Man.

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      • on February 22, 2015 at 12:47 am Carlos Danger

        Sponge Bob would be an improvement.

        Most of them are shaped like Kool-Aid Man.

        You owe me a new keyboard and maybe a monitor. LOL!

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    • on February 21, 2015 at 11:27 am Arbiter

      And as the correspondent said also, hook up with a good Latina, and it’s so different.

      Yeah, those box-shaped torsos on the Mexican women, and the heads too big for the body, very sexy, right? And the way they curse and mouth off in public, to cashiers or whoever else doesn’t give them whatever they want. Not to mention their high standards, taking White people’s tax money in the form of welfare, feeding of White people’s land like parasites, while voting for anti-White politicians. So womanly.

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      • on February 21, 2015 at 9:58 pm 88

        yeah mexicans aren’t the best choice but spanish (from spain) and south american latinas are a whole different breed. sexy, beautiful and feminine. far superior to most american women…without question.

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      • on February 22, 2015 at 12:48 am Carlos Danger

        Venezuela, Brazil, Columbia have some really fine looking women.

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      • on February 23, 2015 at 8:15 pm Heisenberg

        “Venezuela, Brazil, Columbia have some really fine looking women”

        yes they do. there’s a reason south american women have dominated miss universe pageants for the past couple.

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      • on February 27, 2015 at 12:36 am slag rocker

        You shouldnt think “short imbred border jumper” when someone says Latina. Go to Uruguay or South Brazil for example…tons of German, Spanish, Italian blood, but with warmer personalities.. Think Giselle Bundchen, not fat mullata from a rap video. I’m talking sexy, feminine , and usually know their role in the house. And its worth mentioning that an 8 here would be a 5 there.

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  9. on February 20, 2015 at 8:36 am anon

    OT: Is it even possible for a goy to get a job with any major media organization? Serious question.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/people/rachel-feltman

    Every. Single. Time.

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    • on February 20, 2015 at 1:21 pm Greg Eliot

      They’ll squeeze in a gentile every now and then, even in figurehead positions, for the purpose of plausible deniability.

      But you’d better toe the party line, if you know what’s good for you.

      [CH: can we leave aside the ykw talk for one thread? is this too much to ask? a lot of readers have to be feeling like a cartoon character getting bonked over and over on the head by a mallet.]

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      • on February 20, 2015 at 3:16 pm Bel Riose

        CH — haven’t you realized that Greg Eliot only serves three purposes here?

        1. Licking Matt King’s ass.
        2. Railing against blacks.
        3. Railing against “YKW.”

        ((((shakin’ ma haid))))

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      • on February 20, 2015 at 5:27 pm Captain Obvious

        BR, do Axelrod and Sunstein pay top dollar in an off-year like 2015? Or do you only make the big bucks in an election year?

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      • on February 20, 2015 at 6:23 pm Anonymous

        2 out of 3 ain’t bad?

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      • on February 20, 2015 at 10:15 pm Ronin

        Nobody’s perfect?

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      • on February 21, 2015 at 7:55 am Greg Eliot

        And Bel Riose/Stillicho/other sock-puppet monickers serves but one purpose… projecting his homoerotic (or should I say eratic?) fantasies upon his betters.

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      • on February 21, 2015 at 11:28 am Arbiter

        And Bel Riose apparently only serves the purpose of trying to hide inconvenient facts under accusations of “racism”.

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    • on February 22, 2015 at 1:42 pm Siberian Subway Masturbator

      Well, you were there with your journalism degree, superior experience and kiss-ass attitude right?

      What went wrong in the interview?

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  10. on February 20, 2015 at 8:48 am lcs

    Isn’t this really what Nabokov was complaining about in ‘Lolita’? The ruinous effect of American culture on adult females drives Humbert into the arms of a child, who it turns out already has a vast amount of slut training.

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    • on February 20, 2015 at 9:19 am Erudite Knight

      Nice lit reference.

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      • on February 20, 2015 at 6:41 pm Anonymous

        Wow at that pre-Jew takeover Disney cartoon. Awesome.

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      • on February 21, 2015 at 6:35 am Captain Obvious

        > “Wow at that pre-Jew takeover Disney cartoon. Awesome.”

        Yep. [Down below here.] The speed and efficiency and totality of YKW’s complete re-writing of the culture [into what is now our current anti-culture], in only about two decades, since roughly January 20th, 1993, when Slick Willy the Enabler was sworn into orifice, is a pretty damned horrifying spectacle to behold. And dudes who aren’t keeping up with the anti-civilizational anti-human cultural POISON which the Evil Psychiatrists are pumping into these children [not to mention the pharmaceutical poison, like the SSRIs] – you dudes who aren’t keeping up with this shiznat have NO IDEA HOW HORRIBLE IT IS. It is 24×7 scorched-earth total warfare against the shkotzim and their mashiach.

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      • on February 24, 2015 at 8:32 am Erudite Knight

        I’d argue it started way before that, a big one being the ‘evil nazi’ trope of ww2.

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    • on February 20, 2015 at 9:48 am Captain Obvious

      The cultural poisoning starts at a very young age.

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      • on February 20, 2015 at 9:50 am Captain Obvious

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      • on February 20, 2015 at 9:53 am Captain Obvious

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      • on February 20, 2015 at 9:54 am Captain Obvious

        Presumably Mr Europe doesn’t have YKW poisoning his native culture quite so successfully.

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      • on February 20, 2015 at 10:24 am Carlos Danger

        Since I have a new baby daughter, can you recommend what she should watch? I want to control that sort of thing carefully.

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      • on February 20, 2015 at 10:30 am Heywood Jablome

        Carlos, she shouldn’t be watching TV. Period.

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      • on February 20, 2015 at 11:25 am Carlos Danger

        I was thinking of non-television type stuff.

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      • on February 20, 2015 at 1:14 pm CarpeOro

        Carlos, you could carefully filter older movies (a lot of today’s crap started not just in Hollywood but movies across the globe). Charlton Heston for example was in numerous epic films (Ben Hur, The Agony and the Ecstasy, El Cid, etc.) where he is a man. On the other hand, even film Noire pieces often show the insidious creep of feminism (Gene Tierney is feminine beyond the dream of most men in this country, but is portraying a career girl, apparently unmarried in her later 20s). So many of the root concepts of how society is supposed to be today are at odds with these movies. I suspect that is why they are not appreciated as much as they should be and only get lip service from the movie industry today. Both men and women see the roles they should be playing in society and can’t handle the cognitive dissonance they cause.

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      • on February 20, 2015 at 1:54 pm Captain Obvious

        > “Since I have a new baby daughter, can you recommend what she should watch?” On the internet, get VLC player so that you don’t have to watch the commercials at JooTube. Then look for A. J. Jenkins = “kidstv123”. Shawn the Train = “coilbook”. “The Kids’ Picture Show “. A Canadian guy who calls himself “Busy Beavers”. The best of the Hindu stuff [and there’s a ton of it] is probably “HooplaKidz”. There’s also lots of Walt Disney, and there’s vintage Schoolhouse Rock, written by one of the great unknown geniuses of the American music scene, named Bob Dorough:

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      • on February 20, 2015 at 2:01 pm Captain Obvious

        On television: Nothing from the USA. Absolutely NOTHING. It’s all 100% joo-ified evil. Safe choices include select shows from the BBC: “Sarah and Duck”, “Poppy Cat”, “Charlie and the Numbers” [which can also be found on JooTube]. Maybe “Peppa Pig”, but Peppa is trending a little Cluster B. From Australia: “The Wiggles”.

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      • on February 20, 2015 at 5:04 pm Captain Obvious

        And of course I mean VINTAGE Disney. Ol’ Walt, like Henry Ford and the John Birchers, saw the world for what it was. Check out the caricuture of “The Brush Salesman” and try to tell me that Ol’ Walt didn’t understand who the wolf really was:

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    • on February 20, 2015 at 10:32 am Pijama Wearing Ninja

      Kudos to you for not being fatuous and vapid.

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  11. on February 20, 2015 at 8:49 am The One

    @SC

    Before the Mexicans came, Italians were the largest minority in America. So there should plenty of Americans with good genetics as long as you like brunettes. Stop making excuses

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    • on February 20, 2015 at 8:59 am SC

      What excuses? I live in a majority WASP area, so I don’t see many Italian Americans very often.

      Very few things are caused entirely by genetics or entirely by environmental factors. If all the BMI 30 women were forced into the exact same diet and exercise program, the vast majority of them would get thinner, but to varying degrees. Some women, will get all the way down to BMI 19 and some will never get past BMI 22-24. You MRAs are just as wrong as the fat apologists. Stop being an extremist.

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      • on February 20, 2015 at 10:21 am Carlos Danger

        Italian women don’t age well due to more exposure to the sun and their beauty ideal for women is an aquiline nose. I prefer Slavonic women over all others. A lot of Italian men go to Russia or Ukraine for a wife, especially the ones from business families. They are right behind Americans and Brits.

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      • on February 20, 2015 at 11:37 am Lex Corvus

        You can stop writing “MRAs”. There aren’t any here.

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      • on February 20, 2015 at 12:25 pm Loyalist

        There’re still WASP-majority areas in the USSA?

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      • on February 21, 2015 at 11:31 am Arbiter

        You MRAs are just as wrong as the fat apologists. Stop being an extremist.

        MRAs? That and the rest of this comment – and similar comments – shows that SC is a drive-by poster. His posts about how female obesity in the U.S. should be ignored must have a reason. Fat girlfriends?

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      • on February 27, 2015 at 12:48 am slag rocker

        I love this blog, but some of you guys commenting sound like a bunch of total fags. I think some of you sit around throwing around terms and BMI measurements, instead of um..I dunno maybe going out and talking to girls?

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    • on February 20, 2015 at 11:43 am llllooooolllzzzzzlllolll

      Lol most live on the east coast, in cities and the surrounding suburbs. And most are manjawed loudmouths with big stone feet and hairy arms.

      The itslians that came here, as with every immigrant group, were the illiterate goat fuckers who couldnt spell their own names.

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      • on February 22, 2015 at 1:49 pm Siberian Subway Masturbator

        I’m Italian, have a doctorate and scored 790/740/IDK//800 on the GREs.

        Somehow, Mr. loll..etc, I think you’ve misunderstood something, somewhere.

        Maybe you go back to your lab after outbursts and work on your cure for cancer. But you seem more like a negative guy, who tries to find the fault in the world in others, instead of your self.

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    • on February 20, 2015 at 12:34 pm corvinus

      Agree with your point about plenty of Americans with good genetics, but you’re a bit off.

      First of all, Mexicans tend to get fat.

      Also, Italians are concentrated in the Northeast, but they’re relatively rare in the rest of the country.

      White Americans, outside of the Northeast, tend to have a lot of blondes due to heavy German ancestry (in the northern states) and Scots and English ancestry (southern states).

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      • on February 20, 2015 at 1:25 pm Greg Eliot

        I grew up in a fast-paced environment with a lot of Italians… every time you’d turn around, you’d see a day go.

        All kidding aside, my best friends were invariably Italians my entire life… the most hospitable people on earth, God bless ’em.

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      • on February 21, 2015 at 11:38 am corvinus

        All kidding aside, my best friends were invariably Italians my entire life… the most hospitable people on earth, God bless ‘em.

        There’s a reason Italy is considered Europe’s heart.

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  12. on February 20, 2015 at 8:52 am Ang Aamer

    I really have to agree with the Euro guy. It’s pathetic what passes for American female behavior these days.

    And his observations in the workplace are dead on. I have had to counsel like 20 subordinates NOT TO DATE their 20 something female co-workers. Two boys were so bad off I had to get the cleaning staff to throw a couple of Latinas their way to get them off weapons lock. (not kidding – I don’t need a lawsuit)

    It’s hard for young guys to get this but girls in the 20s are in wait state for something better. If you are dating a 20 something careerist wench and you do not come from a very wealthy family you ARE a place keeper (make no mistake about your role). I literally have dealt with sob story breakups after a Miss 20 found a lawyer and her office engineer beau was shown the curb.

    I don’t even bother to teach red pill anymore… it’s just so programmed that I hope the lads don’t make a permanent mistake before 30. Or they leave… lots of 20s guys and gals are short timers everywhere.

    Oh and don’t get me started on the 5-6 score gals that get into a tech organization and realize that they are now Belle of the Ball. Arrrgggg

    —– rant off —

    About the Female Teacher / Male Student thing… which should be renamed TILF from now on… snicker

    My LTR is a teacher… met her by accident and she is from Europe originally so double lottery winner here. But she says that schools today are just a sea of Estrogen. All female staff, all female teachers (mostly) and she’s seen it many times like a female prison guard… all a gal sees for male companionship is… her students.

    Men have been driven from education in greater numbers. Heck I would be surprised if you can GET an elementary education job as a dude now. And besides if you were a hunky dude how would that look in middle school / high school??

    I think it’s a combination of two very important themes in 20-30s women teachers. 1 – They just don’t want to settle down without playing the field testing the waters. 2 – The only males they meet are testosterone addled students… so that’s the pool they can pull from.

    Oh and another thing… I think that the TILF issue is larger than anyone realizes. I taught in College and just from the limited scene I saw. There are like only 1-2 percent of these “relationships” ever reported. I mean when I taught I had a dyke tell me flat out that a student doing her can’t be against university policy… since a woman can’t coerce or assault another woman. (true story)

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    • on February 20, 2015 at 9:51 am mendozatorres

      Sounds like the female teachers having sex with their male students is similar to the 5-6 gal in tech who thinks she’s all that. Since they’re so few males in the teaching world and women are scarce in the tech world, it’s as if they’re a novelty. For the female teacher, her curiosity if piqued higher; for the 5-6 tech gal, her self-pedestalization ramps up.

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      • on February 21, 2015 at 10:13 pm 88

        “similar to the 5-6 gal in tech who thinks she’s all that. Since they’re so few males in the teaching world and women are scarce in the tech world, it’s as if they’re a novelty. For the female teacher, her curiosity if piqued higher; for the 5-6 tech gal, her self-pedestalization ramps up.”

        my ex was in the tech industry and ended up cheating with a co-worker. you are correct about how much attention they get. very few women to share the male attention with so not only do they get more attention than they would if there were more women, they are spending all day, every day with a bunch of guys. naturally when you spend that much time with the opposite sex, stuff is gonna happen. i imagine if i was in an office with only one or two other men and a dozen or more women, all day, every day, i’d be hard pressed to control myself too.

        in restrospect, i would have discouraged her from going into that industry. seemed like a smart move going into a practical field instead of getting some fluff degree and making crap for wages. she made good money too but she was spending more time with the guys at her office than with me. not good for the relationship at home, that’s for sure.

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    • on February 20, 2015 at 10:30 am Pijama Wearing Ninja

      I think the female to male teacher ratio at my school was higher than 9 to 1 and the teachers fucking students were still the men, not the women. American women are just amoral whores and this is just an excuse.

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      • on February 20, 2015 at 1:46 pm Deep Winter Chode

        I’d volunteered to be a teachers helper at my sons’ kindergarten class one morning – and was asked to fill out a Division of Youth and Family Services background check form. Perhaps only 1-2% of ‘relationships’ are reported – perhaps it is ‘just an excuse’ – but, here I am requiring a State Seal of Approval to read stories to half a dozen kids.

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  13. on February 20, 2015 at 8:56 am Hymen Mingesky

    European opinions regarding anything American can be dismissed out of hand IMHO. They all have military penis envy.

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    • on February 20, 2015 at 9:50 am Carlos Danger

      This is true but its also true what he says about American women. I agree with him 100%

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      • on February 20, 2015 at 10:06 am Hymen Mingesky

        I don’t agree. The US isn’t a mono-culture. He might be 100% right about his experience with the .000000006 -.000000018% of American Women he encountered. Hell he might be 100% correct about 20% of American women, but the guy is still being histrionic.

        CH, and not the reader has the more realistic view here, IMHO.

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      • on February 20, 2015 at 10:17 am Carlos Danger

        Observe Megan Kelly below. She is very attractive but has the charm of a pit viper. She literally turns me off sexually with her attitude and bearing.

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      • on February 20, 2015 at 11:52 am Hymen Mingesky

        We can’t all aspire to be fox news leg models

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    • on February 20, 2015 at 10:27 am Pijama Wearing Ninja

      I’ve talked to over a hundred American women from various states and most of them were pure shit. Theyre just vacuous, amoral whores for the most part. The exceptions can be quite awesome, but this is how Americans are intellectually too. A mass of brainless cretins with a few really awesome people to exchange ideas with, but little middle ground.

      It’s awkward because I generally clicked well with Scandinavian and Dutch women so it’s not that I have a predisposition for the sunnier personalities of Southern European women.

      @Hymen, just because you’re morons who think fattening the wallets of the military industrial complex stock owners(thanks for subsidizing my country buying military equipment btw :*) is something to be proud of doesn’t mean the world is envious of your military, especially since beyond expenditures on it, you have nothing to brag about militarily. Maybe you can brag about letting faggots and women in the military considering your military history(including recent) is a joke.

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      • on February 20, 2015 at 10:50 am Hymen Mingesky

        You seemed rustled/defensive. I suppose it must be demasculating to be from a region of the world whose entire defense is predicated on the good will of a bunch of mongrels across the Atlantic. Welfarism and subsequent impotent rage shouldn’t be surprising from a denizen of the land of gibs me dat though.

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      • on February 20, 2015 at 10:37 pm Putin

        “just because you’re morons who think fattening the wallets of the military industrial complex stock owners(thanks for subsidizing my country buying military equipment btw :*) is something to be proud of doesn’t mean the world is envious of your military, especially since beyond expenditures on it, you have nothing to brag about militarily. Maybe you can brag about letting faggots and women in the military considering your military history(including recent) is a joke.”

        Pijama,

        I will be the first to admit that the neocons are a fuckin embarrassment to America. But realize that there are some Americans who are not buying the MIC, fem, gay, politically correct, ethnic cleansing, Muslim supporting bullshit anymore.

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      • on February 21, 2015 at 11:42 am Arbiter

        You seemed rustled/defensive. I suppose it must be demasculating to be from a region of the world whose entire defense is predicated on the good will of a bunch of mongrels across the Atlantic.

        Against what, Russia? The Soviet Union was a threat, Russia isn’t. The neocon-controlled Washington is the threat to both Americans and Europeans today.

        “entire defense”? With nukes in Western Europe no one can invade it. Except, of course, through mass immigration, which is only possible because of the constant propaganda churned out from Hollywood for generations.

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    • on February 21, 2015 at 9:32 am Tam the Bam

      Aaah quit yer whining.
      So why don’t y’all pull out before you blow your load?
      It’s an expensive hobby, and thoroughly unappreciated.

      Leave us to the mercies of Pooty-Poot, as long as Ze Chermans are allowed their own nukes as well as the Frogs. I’d like the Polacks to have ’em too. And the Iranians lol.
      (Brits’ ones don’t count, the only “Go” button for theirs is located somewhere on the banks of the Potomac. They’re just the hauliers).
      Could be interesting times …

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    • on February 21, 2015 at 11:37 am Arbiter

      Most of what Europeans write about the U.S. online is wrong, and most of what Americans write about Europe online is wrong. With “most” I mean nearly everything. Whether it’s a right-winger or a left-winger trying to score a point makes no difference.

      One example: it is telling when Americans talk about “Europe” as if it was one country, and give their opinions on “Europeans”. Leftists do this to claim that “Europeans” support them, while conservatives do it to denounce leftist “Europeans”.

      It is like talking about “the Americas” as one culture. Maybe you get it from watching TV shows where the characters have “been to Europe” on vacation. Might as well say “been to Eurasia”.

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      • on February 22, 2015 at 4:31 am Carlos Danger

        There exists a European meta-culture and there is a North American one as well.

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  14. on February 20, 2015 at 8:58 am Laguna Beach Fogey

    Too true.

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  15. on February 20, 2015 at 9:05 am Erudite Knight

    Kind of ironic that the teacher having sex with the guys is ‘hot’ or someone more ok, yet if it was a guy slamming 16 year old girls, man it’d be over EVERY news and jizzbel site wanting to kill the guy.

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  16. on February 20, 2015 at 9:07 am elmer

    It’s those average gals at Encorpera who assume I am hitting on them over any interpersonal communication and thus decide I should be put in my place on the corporate SMV chart that have driven me to avoid workplace interaction with females at all levels.

    And re:vietnamese, hell yeah, as seen in “A Man Wants a Wife, Not a Co-Worker”.

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  17. on February 20, 2015 at 9:07 am Laguna Beach Fogey

    The “self-pedestalization” stems from American females being told from birth that they’re perfect. And a lot of this comes from their beta dads, who spoil and pedestalize them in an effort to inspire the love they’re not getting from their wives. Behind every AAB (All-American B*tch) is a soft, thirsty beta shlub.

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    • on February 20, 2015 at 1:29 pm Greg Eliot

      Well, I’ve never heard a mom call her daughter anything but “AH-MAY-ZING!!!”

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      • on February 20, 2015 at 4:06 pm Loyalist

        Yep; and every POF profile of single moms in my area goes like thus: “I’m a single mom to an amazing x yr old boy/girl.”

        With the upbringing these degenerates are providing their bastards, I’d very surprised if they’re “amazing.”

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  18. on February 20, 2015 at 9:12 am Captain Obvious

    Rudolph William Louis Giuliani: Never back down. Never apologize. This is how it’s done, little padawan apprentices. NEVER. APOLOGIZE.

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    • on February 20, 2015 at 9:20 am Captain Obvious

      Megyn Kelly: Mr Mayor, do you want to apologize for your comment?

      America’s Mayor: LOL’ed, not at all, I want to repeat it.

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      • on February 20, 2015 at 9:21 am Captain Obvious

        That’s how it’s done. NEVER. APOLOGIZE.

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    • on February 20, 2015 at 9:30 am Ripp

      But don’t cross dress.

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    • on February 20, 2015 at 9:30 am Scythian Arrows

      I would never have him as POTUS, but damn if that isn’t the way to handle the wailing and gnashing of teeth from shitlibs.

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      • on February 20, 2015 at 9:39 am Captain Obvious

        It’s the first time I’ve seen a GOP pol act like he had a pair of balls [which were even slightlylarger than BBs] since, oh, maybe when The Gipper, at 73, asked the 56-yo sissy-fag dweeb twit, Walter Mondale, whether he’d like to arm wrestle.

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      • on February 20, 2015 at 10:11 am Hymen Mingesky

        I’d take Rudy G as prez just for the shitlib tears.

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    • on February 20, 2015 at 9:46 am Mike

      Who the fuck cares about these assholes?

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      • on February 20, 2015 at 9:26 pm MontyDraxel (@MontyDraxel)

        Watching a man with an unshakable frame dealing with a woman is instructive.

        Rape.

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    • on February 20, 2015 at 10:21 am ho

      Debbie Schultz-Wassermann. Holy shit, what a despicable reptile.

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      • on February 20, 2015 at 11:54 am Scythian Arrows

        As if the last name alone wasn’t a tip-off.

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      • on February 20, 2015 at 1:35 pm Greg Eliot

        I tried closing my eyes, but then I heard The Voice… and it was as if a Bene Gesserit were coercing me to do awful deeds.

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      • on February 20, 2015 at 4:54 pm mendozatorres

        Her voice is like she’s eating potatoes and forgot to chew. And her hair is all top ramen 10 for a $1 status.

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      • on February 21, 2015 at 11:39 am corvinus

        Probably the ugliest blonde I’ve ever seen.

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  19. on February 20, 2015 at 9:17 am PA

    “it’s play the games of not replying to your text”

    That’s a good observation. My own friggin sister used to do that shit until I made it clear to her that I will not accept this kind of bullshit.

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    • on February 20, 2015 at 12:17 pm anon

      Yep, if you analyze the way women treat texting coldly and rationally, they are simply rude. It’s playing games, of course, but we all know they check their phone for texts constantly, it takes 2 seconds to send a text, and–here’s the kicker–they can and do respond *instantly* when they want to. Do they think we don’t notice? And they will shut down all attraction if you fail to follow the CH script. I continue to be reminded of this fact. You can NEVER chomp on the beta bait. If you’ve attracted a woman, even so well that you hooked up on the first date that was supposed to be a one hour little meeting, as I did last week on a week night, she will ramp the the beta bait in the subsequent few days *hard core*. Even if she was the one who seemed like she wants an LTR, is mid 30s, and the date went really really well (great chemistry, she clearly had a very good time, thought you were hot, went home with you with no resistance, banged, SHE texted you the next day saying “you are so cute!” (generally she acted like a beta woman). Even so, if you give a hint of beta (such as by sending her any text at all or trying to schedule a second meetup, she will lose attraction, forget how attracted she was to you just three days prior, and start to blow you off.

      I’d like CH to do a post on this specific sub-category (if I’m correct): women ramp up the beta bait in the 3 days immediately following a bang, even (or especially?) if the woman was the one who seemed more LTR-desperate during the meeting that led to a day-one bang.

      It’s like, a man cannot let down his guard and show any beta AT ALL even when it appears by any logical analysis that the woman is WANTING you to do that (be sweet to her) and that she would be put off by more alpha-game that got her number and the first date in the first place. Because of pre-selection, it seems like a woman would literally rather think that the man fucked 6 different women 6 nights in a row than think he is actually a decent man who might eventually want an LTR, even if the woman is 37 and wants kids and was all about how she wants an LTR during the first date.

      Women require that you play games, no exceptions.

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      • on February 20, 2015 at 2:18 pm Mike

        I agree with you almost completely BUT. you should give in a bit after the bang. you need to reward good behavior on her part, and banging is definitely good behavior. Be nice and sweet the following day, then taper off the day after that. then the 3rd day is just back to full on game. flaky response, distant, aloof, Until she sees you again. rinse and repeat.

        at least that’s my 2 cents

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      • on February 20, 2015 at 4:04 pm Sentient

        Some good stuff @anon. I totally agree, the beta tests are strong post sex.

        This is the slope to betaization. You had your girl all weekend, fucked 10 different ways, she pleasant as can be, you are having a great time. She raises her glass and wiggles it “can you get me something to drink? Pleeeeeeeeese?”

        BAM

        What do you do Starbuck?

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      • on February 20, 2015 at 5:25 pm K

        “I’d like CH to do a post on this specific sub-category (if I’m correct): women ramp up the beta bait in the 3 days immediately following a bang, even (or especially?)”

        read a post or a comment on here awhile back that said to keep a girl clamoring for more, guys should ideally be either fucking her every three days or so. or at least giving them some positive attention around the three day mark because of the way they come down off the oxytocin high and then crash. if someone remembers that and has the info, i’d appreciate it.

        also, i think the shit testing you’re referring to right after sex is usually about needing comfort. these kinds of tests need to be handled a little differently than the average shit test. this is where the after bang cuddling, breakfast the next morning or the morning after text comes in. those things take very little effort and the pay off is enormous.

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      • on February 20, 2015 at 5:31 pm FilthyMattress

        Spot on anon.

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      • on February 21, 2015 at 6:53 am Captain Obvious

        > “It’s like, a man cannot let down his guard and show any beta AT ALL”

        ^This, little padawan apprentices. There might have been a time, 50 or 75 years ago, before the Evil Psychiatrists unleashed the HPD/NPD/Nurse-Ratched Cluster B insanity upon us, when you could actually let down your guard and indulge in a little “Mr Nice Guy”. But not anymore. It’s like what’s happening [above here] with America’s Mayor: NEVER back down. NEVER apologize. NEVER! Pedal to the metal. When in doubt, put the Alpha into an even higher gear and floor it.

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      • on February 24, 2015 at 3:41 pm mendozatorres

        “Just put that hammer down and give it hell….Eastbound and down, 18 wheels and truckin’. . .’

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    • on February 20, 2015 at 1:41 pm Lara

      That is rude. I wonder how to handle that if she isn’t your sister, but someone you are interested in. I’d be tempted to write her off, unless I was texting her excessively or she was very busy.

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    • on February 20, 2015 at 1:52 pm PA

      In the confrontation I made a Heisenberg face and told her that I will not accept lack of respect from airheads.

      She is not an airhead (but is high smv) and she took my words to heart.

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  20. on February 20, 2015 at 9:18 am duderino

    I suspect there’s an economic aspect to the decline in American dating. Compare my father’s economic story to yours: He dropped out of high school and worked at a fiberglass factory. He married my mom who didn’t work or learn to drive until her early 20’s. Her life ambition was to marry and have kids. After a few years, he builds a house in the country for $40,000. (circa 1990) He made about 30k a year at the time. This all happened in a very rural area but I suspect cost of living was still low for most relative to income. What does the high school dropout and the professional mom look like in today’s economy? A lot worse than we looked, I had it pretty good.

    I’d argue that women don’t have that much choice if they want to avoid poverty. If you want to avoid trailer park life, you’d better focus on career and delay children. I also think that the transition of men into customer service, PC campus culture, and jobs with overbearing HR policies is part of the betaization of men.

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    • on February 20, 2015 at 2:30 pm Sentient

      Men should focus on jobs of invention, security, building/growing things and sales…

      Females should focus on caregiving, nurturing and looking pretty. They can nurse or teach .

      Observing a national sales conference… To a woman all the girl reps are a 7. Just trading on their looks, worse than a hooked because of the hypocrisy. Just to give DR Rosen a semi when she comes to call. Do you think he wasn’t buying anyway if the reps name was Doug or Phil instead of Christine or Tammy?

      On a side note – the majority of these ladies are wearing rings. Young men don’t let your wives make a career of traveling and hanging out drinking with the most alpha guys in the company… That’s not gonna end well for you.

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      • on February 20, 2015 at 9:33 pm Putin

        “On a side note – the majority of these ladies are wearing rings. Young men don’t let your wives make a career of traveling and hanging out drinking with the most alpha guys in the company… That’s not gonna end well for you.”

        Lol…yep it would almost seem common sense but you know what they say “ignorance is bliss”.

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    • on February 20, 2015 at 6:35 pm Bobby Cuddlefuck aka The Hamster Whisperer

      Bernakification to the bucks equals losta cockas in the butts.

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  21. on February 20, 2015 at 9:21 am Ripp

    “Is it too late to fix American women?”

    Almost.

    Unless there is a pivotal shift in the next decade that bursts the dam of lies and allows an equilibrium to begin.

    It’s been discussed here before: it’s going to take a revolutionary event that will necessitate the rise of the white man to come to terms with his failed experiments of:
    -women’s suffrage
    -racial equalism
    -non-christian based moral framework
    -ever expanding unchecked ‘tolerance’ for the weak
    -unchecked social welfare
    -unaccountble government growth

    And even then it will take a few decades.

    Sometimes I’m convinced we’re past the tipping point and we just have to let the fire burn itself out.

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    • on February 20, 2015 at 2:02 pm Michael Robert Ryan

      [i]Unless there is a pivotal shift in the next decade that bursts the dam of lies and allows an equilibrium to begin.[/i]

      There will be. Naturam expellas furca, tamen usque recurret.

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  22. on February 20, 2015 at 9:26 am nash2z

    I would agree with this European that, American womanhood has reached new lows recently, and there is no end to the bottoming out going on, in sight. I would also agree with the Dark Lord’s analysis – especially that the contempt held by women for betamales and the “flailing against their own dark desires” is skewing the sexual marketplace in a major way.

    It is beginning to favor the much older man/younger woman pairing.

    I will illustrate. I am a 52 year old white man, and am currently dating a 21 year old white woman, and a 24 year old white woman; simultaneously. I met both online, thru a dating site. I’ve gathered from both that their attraction to me (I do look a few years younger and can pass for mid-forties, and this is a prerequisite I believe) is in their expectations that I am more old school masculine than the younger men they can choose from in their pool. But there’s another reason I’ve picked up as well – and that is the expectation that the older man is not part of the pump-n-dump crowd (little do they know) of which the predominance as of late has been making these women feel cheated out of what they consider to be quality relationships. What they are looking for, in response to what they have been enduring their entire sexual lives, are for men to consider them in a more serious LTR light – never mind that they don’t deserve it. Putting off a muted version of this vibe while at the same time reminding them of the overall beta-flavor of their respective man-circles has done wonders not only to score with these two women, but in my favorable responses from other under 25 female prey when approached.

    Could we be seeing the response from women to game – in the wider acceptance of the older man/younger woman pairing. Time will tell

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    • on February 20, 2015 at 9:56 am trav777

      which dating site was this?

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    • on February 20, 2015 at 10:06 am Laguna Beach Fogey

      I just had a similar experience with a 19-year old. She wanted commitment, LTR right off the bat.

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  23. on February 20, 2015 at 9:27 am Scythian Arrows

    “The question hangs: Is it too late to fix American women?”

    Not without fire and sword.

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    • on February 20, 2015 at 9:31 am Ripp

      Agreed. And even then it’ll be a battle of mass sacrifice.

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  24. on February 20, 2015 at 9:31 am martin

    This man sounds like a Spaniard. I don’t know if I would try to divide Europe in to Catholic and non-Catholic in order to make sweeping generalities because Catholic influence fluctuates by region and it was mostly Catholic at one point in history. Regardless, there is a bit of an issue with his assertion. Countries like Spain, France, and Italy all have average marriage ages higher than in the US. The women do tend to live in their parents houses but I sincerely doubt that means they remain celibate until they are married. In contrast, an American woman might marry younger so just that alone suggests they aren’t all careerists or sluts. Now the issue of these attractive women having sex with students is interesting. Maybe a few stories here and there isn’t good enough but I do really wonder what is going on with that.

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    • on February 21, 2015 at 11:42 am corvinus

      It would make sense. For one thing, Protestants are much more permissive about frivorce than Catholics, which would color all sorts of different aspects of their dating and marriage culture. In Protestant countries, if you mess up your first marriage and beta out (if male) or bitch out (if female), no problem. In Catholic ones, you’re stuck in “separated” limbo until your spouse dies.

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  25. on February 20, 2015 at 9:33 am The One

    @SC

    It’s extremist to move to a location with less WASP’s? Men are leaving to different countries, surely you can change states, I did.

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  26. on February 20, 2015 at 9:45 am Aspie Nerd

    This is based on very limited experience so take it with more than just a grain of salt.
    American girls were not as bad in my days as they seem to be today. The loveliest, though not necessarily sexiest, were farm girls. Of course, once you marry one of them, she might get Sudden Feminist Syndrome 20 years later, and what can you do? the problem is the divorce laws, not the women themselves.
    Euro girls are not all the same, obviously. English girls make American girls look almost sexy, by comparison. However, I’d probably feel safer marrying an English rather than American girl, not that either is gonna happen.
    Italian women are like American women in one way: both of them relentlessly try to get the upper hand in a relationship. The difference is that an Italian woman won’t divorce you: perhaps aware that she’s past her sell-by date, she’ll keep you as a beta provider. If you move out, then you’ll be a beta provider anyway. (This is based on the experience of some Italian friends.)
    German and Dutch girls are quite assertive, not very feminine but I like it: due to my Aspie tendencies I like girls who tell me what they think.
    Eastern Europe is the place to go for feminine girls. I got to know (friend zone, without regrets on my part) a Bulgarian girl who thought Western Euro girls are very assertive while Northern Euro men are almost effeminate. I can see her point about the Western girls (though I can handle that level of assertiveness) but I think she is wrong about the men: she confuses braggadocio with masculinity.

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  27. on February 20, 2015 at 9:57 am Anton

    “The Pillsbury Betaboys meanwhile are trying harder than ever, supplicating and prostrating themselves until all life is drained out of vaginas subject to their anhedonic pleadings.

    The naive man dips his toe in the American dating scene and discovers the women are mannish, narcissistic killjoys, having surrendered their femininity on the altars of social media attention whoring, obesity, and careerism.”
    ————————————————————————————————–
    Great literature.

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    • on February 21, 2015 at 12:18 am Carlos Danger

      Makes you wonder who the real author might be.

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  28. on February 20, 2015 at 10:01 am Bike Bubba

    I’m with the guy who noted that maybe somebody needs to date someone he doesn’t meet in a bar. The girl who is easily bedded is, given the near 100% STD infection rate for promiscuous Americans, one with not a terrible lot going on between her ears. Same thing for the guy she sleeps with, really.

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    • on February 20, 2015 at 11:06 am Harland

      I like how the icon for internet-feminist above is in the shape of a penis.

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      • on February 20, 2015 at 12:47 pm Bike Bubba

        Suggesting that one might meet smarter people if one looked outside singles bars, or that sleeping with promiscuous people is a great way to get the clap and is therefore foolish, makes me a feminist? Seriously?

        And look at your own inkblot, Rohrshach. Veddy interesting, as acolytes of Dr. Freud might say.

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      • on February 21, 2015 at 2:31 am Harland

        “Acolyte”? Who *uses* words like that?

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      • on February 21, 2015 at 8:43 am Greg Eliot

        Guys who didn’t drop out of high school?

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    • on February 21, 2015 at 9:33 am Tilikum

      They are all situational whores dude. Learn to live w it. You mom, your wife, your daughter.

      Choke it all the way down, set yourself free.

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  29. on February 20, 2015 at 10:07 am YaReally

    lol don’t worry, the tide is turning. Shit will be very different in 10-20 years.

    10 years ago there was no PUA industry teaching men how to get a girl. Now game and red pill teaching is mainstream.

    10 years ago no average 21yo dude knew anything about protein powder or macros. Now the majority lift.

    10 years ago the average 21yo dude wasn’t thinking about multiple passive income streams and bucking the system to be a self-sufficient entrepreneur. Now I know guys in their mid-20s buying and flipping condos and running side/Internet businesses and shit.

    What do these societal shifts all have in common? Men who were being shut out of getting what they wanted from the SMP started figuring out how to raise their value to get what they wanted from the SMP.

    The same thing is verrrrry slowly starting to happen with women but it won’t be noticable on a large scale for a solid 10-20 years and even then it’ll be more like 30-40 before it’s the majority.

    What is PUA really but “charm school” for men. Why did women go to “charm school”? To learn how to maximize their value to land a high-value man.

    When high-value men reject women for long-term commitment long enough to reach the tipping point, “charm school” will make a return. It’ll be underground like PUA was, to avoid feminists accusing them of betraying womanhood, but when the first handful of 23yos who exercise cook clean have positive attitudes etc land actual legit husbands and a happy family life with kids, other women are going to think “ok I’m still a feminist BUT this bitch landed a high value husband and all these other girls are being pump n dumped…it may not be feminist approved but fuck it I’m looking out for number one and I’m gonna learn to cook clean exercise etc and hamster rationalize it as empowering so I can land a husband like she did”

    There will be Jezebel articles about homemaking being the new feminist empowerment one day lol

    The <25yos I meet have their shit together better than the 25-45yo women (aka victims of feminism). An increasing number of <25yos are at the gym (in my experience it's the 22-25yos, the 18-21s are still retarded lol) doing squats regularly, running marathons, learning to cook, not going to bars as much (once every few months mostly sober instead of wasted weekly), READING even, looking to lock down a man BEFORE they focus on their career instead of after, starting to question feminism, starting to see their lonely cat lady feminist aunts working till retirement and thinking about how much more appealing the Mad Men lifestyle of taking care of a high-value alpha man looks, etc.

    They're not good at it yet because all the ways that they need to offer value are scorned by feminists so there's a lot of conditioning to hamster around to justify it, but from what I've been seeing in-field women are going to figure out how to maximize their value the same way PUAs did and cooking exercise etc will be their "Red Pill" that starts to spread.

    Calling it now lol. So whoever's reading this archived somewhere in 2055: The YaReally Reversion Theory was born right here lol It's why I'm waiting another 10-15 years before I consider settling down, I expect the selection to be much higher quality and the next generation of men being born right now, when they get to 35-40, will be in paradise with the selection of marriage quality women.

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    • on February 20, 2015 at 2:35 pm Ripp

      2055 US History Books in Uni:

      Dr. YaReally and the poop that brought down feminism. A revisionist movement.

      “I have a dream…”

      Lolzzllolz

      I Dont know man. I still see so many early 20s women that are most concerned with the next vegas/cochella/cool thing and college + career shit…oh and of course the yearning to get pooped up on by guys like us.

      But the cat lady 40s+ headed for insol is growing at a rapid pace. Exponentially it seems like.

      We’ll see. Until then…u best know I’ll be pinching off kashi cereal pure loafs on all dem biatches.

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      • on February 20, 2015 at 4:49 pm mendozatorres

        Wait till the student loan bubble bursts, then college won’t be something on their minds.

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      • on February 20, 2015 at 8:32 pm YaReally

        @Ripp
        “I Dont know man. I still see so many early 20s women that are most concerned with the next vegas/cochella/cool thing and college + career shit”

        Like I say, it’s not common yet lol It’s not going to be something that’s noticable for a while and it’s going to happen at different speeds in different cities etc. It’s not going to just be an overnight upgrade across the board tomorrow lol And I know the Manosphere especially loves to spank their rage-boner over how horrible western women are these days because it helps them justify their shitty game.

        But I’m noticing the seeds sprouting out there and I wasn’t looking for it it’s just something I’m running into enough to think “hmm…that’s an interesting thing that just happened, I thought the last time it happened was just an anomally…”

        Or maybe I’m just the absolute luckiest guy in the world and I just completely by sheer luck run into these quality girls in which case I should buy a lottery ticket lol

        @mendozatorres
        “Once other women see it firsthand, the proof is in their pudding.”

        That’s what I’m banking on. Guys don’t swallow the Red Pill because it tastes good…we WISH the world was the fantasy that Disney and the Blue Pill sold us, but reality aligns with the Red Pill so we accept it. Feminism can shit all over putting a man before a career but if a handful of girls land a high-value man by doing that, other women are going to follow suit and we all know women are pro at acting in their best self-interest and rationalizing away any issue anyone has with it lol

        @LWM
        “I’m trying to find an old TD article ‘ 25 Points of Not Telegraphing Interest’”

        The one you linked is the only 25 point article by Tyler that I can think of off-hand.

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    • on February 20, 2015 at 3:17 pm PA

      The feminine awakening will be triggered by a realization that a Duggar girl has more sexual magnetism than a thousand Miley Cyruses. That the flash of an Amish girls’ wrist is sexier than a thousand thongs.

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    • on February 20, 2015 at 4:34 pm mendozatorres

      “ok I’m still a feminist BUT this bitch landed a high value husband and all these other girls are being pump n dumped…it may not be feminist approved but fuck it I’m looking out for number one and I’m gonna learn to cook clean exercise etc and hamster rationalize it as empowering so I can land a husband like she did”

      That’s the rub right there. Once other women see it firsthand, the proof is in their pudding.

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    • on February 20, 2015 at 7:00 pm Lucky White Male

      Ya –

      I’m trying to find an old TD article ‘ 25 Points of Not Telegraphing Interest’

      Any idea,

      If I’m correct its not the same thing as this well-known , a diff 25 points http://www.theattractionforums.com/miscellaneous/90-25-point-checklist-things-not-do-td.html

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    • on February 21, 2015 at 7:08 am Moses

      “When high-value men reject women for long-term commitment long enough to reach the tipping point, “charm school” will make a return.”

      It could also break another way:

      “When high-value men reject women for long-term commitment long enough to reach the tipping point, feminists will use the law and manginas to deny men any other options.”

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    • on February 23, 2015 at 7:27 pm King A

      I had a snarky reply welcoming you to the school of ancient virtue and Christian conservatism, but I’m going to be the bigger man here and just say you are 100% correct in your assessment, if perhaps premature with the timeline a bit. It will take several generations to be completely cleansed of the cultural poisoning into which everyone today alive has been born.

      “The facts of life are conservative.” Sooner or later a man figures this out and passes it along, or his line is snuffed out. “Liberalism is the ideology of western suicide.”

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      • on February 23, 2015 at 7:43 pm Tilikum

        good to see you supplicate to reality and recognize that your time is not now, but maybe later.

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      • on February 23, 2015 at 8:20 pm King A

        “Supplicate to reality”? Is English your second language?

        I say total victory is in the offing for the steadfast and faithful, and you interpret it as surrender to the passing era. I counsel resolve and your first thought is submission. You have the mind of a woman.

        “Whoever marries the spirit of this age will be a widower in the next.”

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  30. on February 20, 2015 at 10:09 am Pijama Wearing Ninja

    I met a former HS classmate a while back and she kept whining about how she doesn’t have someone who loves her and how her friends bla bla bla. It’s funny because in HS she dated older bad boys and wouldn’t have dated me and now I wouldn’t date her unless she paid for the dates and I’d do it just for the free shit. I envision a future of spinsterhood for her despite being quite a cutie back in HS.

    This being said, I decided I should start shivving the aging part of my FB list and I’d like some help. I recall seeing that relationship between female age and the age of the man they find the most attractive and the relationship between male age and theage of the women they consider hotties. Does anyone have a link to that? I decided I should ask before I go looking for it because maybe some of you bookmarked it.

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    • on February 20, 2015 at 1:42 pm anon

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      • on February 20, 2015 at 2:39 pm Ripp

        Ah yes…rollo’s great chart that brings pain to the slore army.

        We should replace the tops of all mosques, temples and churches with the “2 slopes” icon of poonery.

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      • on February 20, 2015 at 3:54 pm mendozatorres

        I’m right where I need to be.

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    • on February 20, 2015 at 9:36 pm Lumpy

      Data viz shiv

      http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2751179/Are-girl-22-Then-don-t-bother-online-dating-Alarming-graph-shows-ages-attractive-opposite-sex.html

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      • on February 21, 2015 at 11:31 pm Mark Kimmel

        That’s a trainwreck of a comments section. Reaffirms my belief that most people shouldn’t be allowed to vote.

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  31. on February 20, 2015 at 10:15 am anonYmous

    There used to be a news site entirely devoted to women teachers sexually assaulting young students. It was voluminous. And teachers were suing the site for posting news links pics and name of the assaulter. It was funny because it was obvious some of the teachers were stunners. 8s or 9s. But they hada good attorney who coached them to look ugly.

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    • on February 20, 2015 at 10:38 am Heywood Jablome

      Try this one. The archive goes back a long, long way.

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  32. on February 20, 2015 at 10:23 am Sentient

    It’s not as bad out there as many make out. Yes there are NO girls and yes there are birches but I’d say still most girls are pretty pleasant and enjoy male attention, even if you can’t get them to act on it.

    I can handle a girl expressing no interest. Cest la vie and all. Move on. What’s becoming increasingly irritating is the men. The white knights the jealous and the angry beer boys. Get a brothers back guys, applaud a good move, top o the hat for a guy getting shot down. Join the party. Don’t just stare and sneer because you couldn’t do anything but watch.

    Man. At a hotel bar last night. Early not crowded. Four dudes all strangers sitting over on my left. None of them talking to each other. All staring at their phones. Quiet as a church. I look at these guys none want to engage. Now there is a big meeting here and lots of hot sales girls floating around. One comes over to get a wine to go outside with. I open her right up. Soon she is laughing and flirting and arm punching me and I am teasing her until she has to get back to her group. I give her a hug. She leaves. I turn back to my drink and look at the 4 dudes. All of them just glaring at me. Still no one says a word. I smile oh well go back to my drink.

    15 minutes later another 7 walks past me. With a guy. I make eye contact. She says nice jacket. I stop her pull her in, tell her don’t just look go ahead and touch it get the full experience. She is cracking up. She tells her guy friend to take a walk for a bit and we sit and chat for 15 minutes. Laser eyes, laughing good Kino going. I try and get her to blow off the dude but she won’t, also she has to get back to her kid for school tomorrow etc. Whatever. Dude comes back so they go, she gives me a big full body hug and a kiss on the cheek. I tell get out of here and slap that was goodbye.

    Again look over at the 4 dudes and now they are really seething! Just raw anger it seems. No head nod+ no raised glass. No conversation at all. Weird feeling.

    Later that night I come across an honest to God 6 foot solid 9 former professional ballerina. More on her later… But to this point fucking white night older bar tender who knows her starts chiming into my conversation saying to her “didn’t you say you had to study tonight? You have to be up at 6 right?” and shit like that… I tease her with oooohhhh I think he really likes you. Fuck. This was a real challenge without a friggin bar tender trying to fuck it up for you. Back in the day a bar tender would help you out. And she was loving loving loving it… Laughing smiling good Kino… All of it.

    Guys try and wing each other. There are enough girls to go around.

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    • on February 20, 2015 at 4:16 pm having a bad day

      @Sentient

      “Again look over at the 4 dudes and now they are really seething! Just raw anger it seems. No head nod+ no raised glass. No conversation at all. Weird feeling.”

      the functional purpose of anger is to resolve the cognitive dissonance btwn self-identity and reality…those dudes’ identity was that meeting girls is hard…and that you need to have looks/money/etc. just to open (deserve) a cute girl…your chatting up a hottie and getting positive results is dissonant to that outlook…lol…blue pill all the way…keep up the good work…lol…

      I get those looks, too…lol…mostly from ‘successful’ guys in their 30’s when i’m chatting up those college girl sets for fun (almost as bad as the looks from ‘spinster’ cat ladies…lol)…and they can’t figure out how to even open them one-on-one…bc they get shut down by a simple beta baiting shit test as the girl’s beta provisioning algorithm kicks in as the default setting…lol…

      i’d can on those guys (mostly bc they are not trying/putting in the work…and i still would if i thought they were red pill…), but i understand the power of the social conditioning (feminine imperative) they are laboring under. so, i’ll try to at least help them if they’re not TOO hostile…lol…a comment here or there…it might make a difference for them down the road…but you can’t force a red pill down a guy’s throat…they fight too hard…lol…

      understand where that impulse (anger) comes from…it used to be that men would gather together and just shoot the shit (at the saloon/local bar/’men’s club’/etc) and support each other, etc…that was just what men did…younger men coming in and interacting with older men…learning how to ‘be’ in the world…but doing that now is seen as ‘unacceptable’ bc ‘equality’…

      the blue pill expectation is that ‘men’ are expected to NOT do that old-school stuff bc it’s sexist…and women REALLY want a sensitive, emotionally available man…so, when guys are in a setting (bar) where they used to just sit down next to each other and talk (it didn’t matter if they knew each other before or not…) now they can’t do that simple thing bc then they wouldn’t ‘qualify’ for the cute girl…

      so, then you come along and just chat up some hotties = old school expectations…and it works…lol…so, now those guys are sitting there going ‘wtf’…i’m NOT talking to anybody…i’m having a shitty time…AND i’m not getting a girl?…their cognitive dissonance goes UP…fast…lol…plus they just got shut down on tinder again…lol…

      good luck!

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    • on February 20, 2015 at 4:17 pm having a bad day

      @Sentient

      …in mod…lol…at least it’s not the stack again…

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      • on February 20, 2015 at 4:47 pm Sentient

        Well I’ll share the story of the ballerina. So I was bouncing around, turns out the majority of places where I am shut down at 10. I pass one restaurant with a bar still open, but can see some table stacking in the back. Going to close. Thinking herm, just call it a night. But I cathc a glimpse of a single, from the back of her head. Looks maybe slim but can’t see her. Go on in.

        She is facing away from me at the bar. empty wine glass. Half empty water glass, her keys out on the bar. Ready to go. She is watching something on TV.

        So I order a drink, then open her with some comment on what she was watching. she turns around . shazaam. Model pretty. 25. Tall. great teeth… we start chatting. I’m in a good mood so good vibe going. She is studying acupuncture, she got into it after a ballet injury. I know something about eastern medicine and have dated a few very good young ballerina’s (but no pro’s) so I am hitting all the high points with her, but in a teasing way, making fun of her a little. She is a west coast hippy girl, so tease her a lot about that. she is eating it up. Great personality, smiling, laughing (it’s out there guys).

        She finished her acupuncture class an is heading home. Logistics not good, she lives 40 miles away comes to town once a week for night class and stays with her boyfriends parents, which is were she is headed. So I see the challenge and try to ramp up the attraction and extract her to another spot. Now she tells me up front she has to be up at 6 AM to get back to work, and she has to write a paper (weird but I think she was honest) so she is throwing up some objections. no no no no I can’t stuff. But still playing along. she hasn’t left. I start kino hold her arm while telling her a story and she winces, says she injured her arm. I ask her if her boyfriend beats her, she laughs. I say maybe he should, for being a clumsy ballerina (she fell on a boat). she is still laughing. I taker her hands and say let’s read each others palms. she starts to go on about her life line. I take both hands and am just holding them, looking in her eyes, stroking her palm with my thumbs. she is not resisting, not pulling away. i ask her to point out her lifeline, she laughs and says she has no idea.

        I see she has a bird tattoo on her wrist, so I hold her arm with one hand and with my other hand just lightly trace over it, over and over, while asking her about it, what she was thinking, where she got it (18 in Spain on a trip) and make a little fun of it (this guy was drunk right? etc). She is laughing, saying yes she will tell her grandkids how stupid she was. She mentions something about getting sleep to cure liver problems and says if you got 8 hours of sleep a night it would change your life. She asks if I believe her “depends who I’m sleeping with I guess” delivered while continuing to stroke her wrist and laser eye. she gasps a little, smiles, blushes, eyes dilate a bit. Now with all this good kino and eye contact and sharing the bubble is forming, strong. I can feel it.

        And so can this fuckhead 45 YO bartender. He starts out loudly from across the bar “Hey Ballerina, Don’t you have to be heading out soon? Didn’t you say you had school work and be up real early”… and POOOOF reality check. she starts to mumble Uh yeah I really should get going (now the whole staff is just waiting for us to leave to mop up) I try another time to bounce her. she shakes me off. No no no I really have to go. So nice etc etc. she stands up. Solid 6 foot with a low heel on. swan neck… little hiug and sashays off to her car.

        I pay my tab, give the barkeep a FU look and a quarter tip.

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      • on February 21, 2015 at 8:12 pm Sentient

        Still huh?

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      • on February 22, 2015 at 6:57 pm Sentient

        mods lots of stuff locked up… release anytime soon?

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    • on February 20, 2015 at 7:17 pm Lucky White Male

      My experience these days is the average guy next to you at the bar, cigar lounge, game, beach, pool, hotel convention, etc, etc, is chump central

      shame to say, but they have only themselves to blame. too lazy, too scared to improve themselves

      when a guy comes into their orbit with some game, or even something as simple as hitting on girls you can see the envy

      envy is a very real thing, you have to be careful. robert greene (48 laws) is so on the money when he says one of the biggest moves for power is envy. watching out for it, not flaunting it and putting it in people’s faces.

      i heard an entrepreneur talking about how the biggest problem he had becoming a success was not necessarily the endless hours in business, the business itself, but — other men.

      basically – all of his major problems in business came from other men – personal issues from envy spilling over into business

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      • on February 21, 2015 at 12:03 am Carlos Danger

        Good comment and observations.

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      • on February 21, 2015 at 6:57 pm FilthyMattress

        @LWM

        Great comment. Collective envy of large groups of average men is the most dangerous thing in the world. Subversion of the mob is critical to success, in all things.

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    • on February 20, 2015 at 10:15 pm Putin

      LOL, seriously dude, that is some good stuff. Sounds like you took on the whole bar and won. More game than I. Interesting about the bitter men.

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    • on February 22, 2015 at 11:12 am Putin

      “oooohhhh I think he really likes you.” Reading this again, I will have to remember that line as it will probably come in handy nowadays. I was in a Starbucks last week and two guys came in trying to game some women. They were giving me the worst bitter looks and I was not even talking to women!

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  33. on February 20, 2015 at 10:31 am Sentient

    I look forward to the day when 11 year old boys, playing 7 minutes in heaven, know it in their hearts that the girls shrieking and protesting the loudest are the ones that WANT to be in there with him the most. And the young fella reaches out his hand and grabs hers with a cocky smirk and shrugs “I guess you’ll do” and pulls her confidently into the closet …

    CH – Godspeed in your mission to bring this future to fruition.

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    • on February 20, 2015 at 12:38 pm martin

      interesting take. I am so bloody sick of being told to be ashamed of being attracted to curves, especially after some cunt puts it all on display. Another point that occurred to me: the whole rape-culture culture and sexual assault epidemic epidemic would make anyone think sex is an imposition on women. I thought about this some and what occurred to me was “is it really that bad to have a cock put in your vagina”? I can think of a lot worse things than that.

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      • on February 20, 2015 at 10:18 pm Putin

        “bloody sick of being told to be ashamed of being attracted to curves”

        Yes

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    • on February 21, 2015 at 11:47 am corvinus

      I look forward to the day when 11 year old boys, playing 7 minutes in heaven, know it in their hearts that the girls shrieking and protesting the loudest are the ones that WANT to be in there with him the most.

      A game application here, too. If you text a girl and get silence, she’s not into you. But if you text a girl (for the first time, and something completely innocuous) and get a huge hamster barf, with weak excuses as to why you shouldn’t text her, then…

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      • on February 21, 2015 at 10:19 pm K

        “A game application here, too. If you text a girl and get silence, she’s not into you. But if you text a girl (for the first time, and something completely innocuous) and get a huge hamster barf, with weak excuses as to why you shouldn’t text her, then…”

        this is the truth. if a girl is truly not interested in you, she will just ignore you. if she’s responding at all, even in a negative way, she’s wanting to keep the conversation going.

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  34. on February 20, 2015 at 10:40 am kaizersoze71

    Is it too late to “fix” an American woman…yup. Until the courts change and make women accountable for her actions, yes.

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  35. on February 20, 2015 at 10:44 am John

    Too late to fix America, period. The women are just a product of the culture.

    I used to mourn this country’s passing but now I’ve adopted a bemused absurdist outlook and actually hope I live to see it burn. Sounds like a good time.

    As far as women, just enjoy them as much as you can but never expect anything at all from them. I find the more you treat them like whores the more they try to prove they’re not.

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  36. on February 20, 2015 at 10:46 am PA

    My guess is that an overwhelming majority of those American girls word be on their way to femininity if guys started hard-negging them by default. Even with anti-male culture in this place.

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    • on February 20, 2015 at 11:33 am Carlos Danger

      I agree. You Need to expect that they cook and if they don’t neg them hard for it. Do that for each and every bad and vulgar trait.

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  37. on February 20, 2015 at 11:10 am anon

    Tinder report, i don’t get why she went cold when i started asking some more complicated questions, would love some insight into this

    We’re both <25, eastern europe, she's a ~5.5

    Me (17:24):
    – Wow
    – How was Vegas? (she had some pic from vegas, it was interesting since we're in Eastern Europe)
    Her (17:24):
    – Amazing !
    Me (17:26):
    – I've traveled through europe but only in chill places. I think i'd only last 3 hours in vegas before I'd end up in some mustang's trunk
    Her (17:27):
    – :)) we rented 2 mustangs
    – I also like loud places
    – Silence depresses me
    Me (17:29):
    – Haha
    – What's the craziest thing you did there?
    Her (17:31):
    – Well I got drunk in a high roller and then I went on the strip :))
    Me (17:33):
    – I thought some nice american seduced you and took you on an adventure
    Her (17:36):
    – :))
    – Actually the craziest thing that happened was
    – I got a note saying "our secret text me!"
    – from a married guy
    Me (17:38):
    – lol, why didn't you answer
    Her (17:39):
    – so the guy was next to me
    – and he told me he left a note for me on the table
    – after I read it he ripped it to pieces
    – what the hell… i don't want to handle a married guy
    Me (17:41):
    – Haha, it probably wasn't the first time he's done that
    Her (17:42):
    – :)) possibly
    Me (17:43):
    – You say you can't handle married guys but if brad pitt came to you tomorrow with a note you would forget angelina existed
    Her (17:45):
    – more like adam levins
    – levine
    – or jhonny depp
    Me (17:48):
    – Interesting, I don't go after actresses who are considered super sexy, I rather like girls like juno temple
    Her (17:53):
    – Mhn
    Me (17:56):
    – If you could talk to anyone famous for an hour, who would you pick?
    Her (18:00):
    – i don't know
    – i find it hard to think about now
    – there would be too many
    Me (18:03):
    – I'm patient, out of all of them one must shine through
    Her (18:14):
    – Hugh Laurie
    Me (18:17):
    – Good answer
    – Why?
    Her (18:22):
    – I liked him a lot in dr. house
    Me (18:46):
    – He was brilliant, I've seen the whole series atleast two times.. I had a lot of free time when I was a kid lol
    Her (18:47):
    – :))
    – yeah, i still watch it on TV when i can
    Me (18:49):
    – You should come by so we could watch old english comedies he also played in
    Her (18:55):
    – I appreciate the intention, but it's probably not going to happen
    Me (18:57):
    – You're going legal on me already lol
    Her (18:57):
    – Legal? :))
    Me (18:59):
    – You used a very.. institutional language
    – Are you a lawyer?
    Her (19:00):
    – No
    Me (19:01):
    – Hmm, too bad. I could use a lawyer (fishing for a "what for")
    Her (19:03):
    – I can't help you with that
    Me (19:11):
    – You're too serious, loosen up. You know what they say.. time moves pretty fast, if you don't stop and look around every once in a while.. You could miss it (According to tinder she didn't check this message for atleast 20 min)
    Her (19:42):
    – you're wrong, i'm trying to pay attention to stuff around me (hard to translate this)
    Me (19:43):
    – that's more like it 😉
    – talk tomorrow, i'm meeting some friends now
    Her (19:44):
    – bye bye

    What I think I did wrong :
    – could've handled the meet rejection better, stuff like "damn, i already made popcorn :("
    – shouldn't have called her out on it. instead should've tried to lighten the mood more. basically I gave up on it there
    – after she answered to me calling her out, even though i was online ( talking to other girl) I shouldn't have responded that fast. I did it because I knew she knew I saw her reply and was afraid to not appear butthurt but… it also made me look like I was eagerly awaiting her response

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    • on February 20, 2015 at 1:52 pm anonYmous

      You started off good but women don’t like being interrogated. She wants simple fast and easy. In tinder you don’t need rapport just high quality condoms. Attraction is or was there so you were working in the opposite direction. Escalate. Don’t ever ask a woman too many questions. Then they have to think which hurts. Instead of asking what happened there. Tell a wild story and see if she reciprocates.

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      • on February 20, 2015 at 10:03 pm Putin

        “You started off good but”….Yep

        Over did the talking and questions. We have all been there.

        My son does not say much. People wonder why his girlfriend is too hot for him.

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    • on February 20, 2015 at 4:32 pm kuchak

      Many questions from you but zero from her which in my experience means lost cause, move on, she’s not interested. Even with the “I need a lawyer” remark she won’t ask why. The last ditch effort of “You’re to serious…” will just piss her off at this point. Had this many times, you tell them about what your up to, they tell you about what they’re up to, you ask them more details about what they’re up to, they’ll tell you more details about what they’re up to, but they will never ever ask YOU a question.

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    • on February 27, 2015 at 12:57 am slag rocker

      You asked too many questions, showed way more interest than you should have.

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  38. on February 20, 2015 at 11:15 am Ohiomega

    Marriage, LTRs, and children (Oh, my!) are in no man’s best interest. These fogies remembering “bygone days” need to GtFo. Love does not exist any more than God does. The sexual revolution was the greatest thing to ever happen, just ahead of Internet porn, and the next great thing will be when prostitution becomes legal, making game–and marriage–obsolete. It will probably hasten the Western Gotterdammerung as well, but, who could possibly care?

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    • on February 20, 2015 at 4:35 pm kuchak

      COTW

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  39. on February 20, 2015 at 11:16 am hearse-tist

    Too much complaining.

    American women are crappy blah blah blah, women were so much better in the “Good ol days” (TM).

    Sit back, put your feet up and enjoy the decline. You’ll find me poolside.

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    • on February 24, 2015 at 11:08 am Jack-o-Lantern

      America’s future is Detroit:

      http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2014/12/07/opinion/sunday/exposures-detroit-by-air-alex-maclean.html?_r=0

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  40. on February 20, 2015 at 11:17 am Joe

    European women are rapidly becoming vapid whores. Bring one to the U.S. and watch her Americanize, get fat, turn into a feminist man-hater, and turn sex into a weapon. My friend married a “good” Polish girl and brought her home. It took a couple of years for her to turn into a fat, alcoholic, spiteful bitch. He worked and paid the bills, but after a while she stopped doing anything around the house or working outside it. She turned into a fat cow. Then suddenly she was pregnant. That kid, incidentally, was unplanned from my friend’s perspective. They were going to wait 5 years to get the finances stabilized before having kids. She filed for divorce before the kid was 1, because she had her 18 year annuity.

    She then went on a tear getting fucked by random guys for five years. Her daughter, probably destined to be a teenage mom now, used to see mom getting plowed by a different guy at least monthly. My personal favorite was she saw her mom getting plowed by a young black dude and his two friends. Today she’s dating a loser white guy, but still gets fucked by ither guys.

    This is what European women are today.

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    • on February 20, 2015 at 4:13 pm ho

      ” My friend married a “good” Polish girl and brought her home. It took a couple of years for her to turn into a fat, alcoholic, spiteful bitch. He worked and paid the bills, but after a while she stopped doing anything around the house or working outside it. She turned into a fat cow. Then suddenly she was pregnant. That kid, incidentally, was unplanned from my friend’s perspective. They were going to wait 5 years to get the finances stabilized before having kids. She filed for divorce before the kid was 1, because she had her 18 year annuity.

      She then went on a tear getting fucked by random guys for five years. Her daughter, probably destined to be a teenage mom now, used to see mom getting plowed by a different guy at least monthly. My personal favorite was she saw her mom getting plowed by a young black dude and his two friends. Today she’s dating a loser white guy, but still gets fucked by ither guys.”

      Don’t you know? It was because he “checked out” that this happened.

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    • on February 21, 2015 at 12:16 am Carlos Danger

      That is always a danger. You have to maintain contact with their home culture and you have to still pick well. It’s still the minority though, that turn to crap like this. These marriages have about an 80% success rate from what I recall reading. My wife has adapted but not changed fundamentally. We’ve been married eight years and have been together for ten now.

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  41. on February 20, 2015 at 11:33 am llllooooolllzzzzzlllolll

    I bet there are much more female teachers doing that. There must be more twen boys that know to keep their mouths shut. I think..

    As for teen girls and male teachers, who knows

    Btw, european men are total whiners and very emotional, so it doesnt surprise me this character is reacting like this. Personally, Ive worked with zero Europeans who werent short tempered and defensive. As with everything, the truth is floating somewhere in the middle.

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  42. on February 20, 2015 at 11:41 am Pijama Wearing Ninja

    CH, you have this woman complain on your twitter feed that the EU to US woman comparison isn’t fair because the EU woman is 21 and the American 30, missing the fact that the European woman actually sounds more mature and well rounded as a person to begin with, which is what you’d expect from an older, not a younger woman. Talking about scoring an own goal there. lol

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  43. on February 20, 2015 at 11:54 am senseiern

    I would say that ideas of American women are biased by North East environment

    [CH: while i’ve spent some time in the ne, the bulk of my pooning has been in other regions. this is more an observation based on swpl-y urban white women who exist in just about every major blue anglo city.]

    As a travelling standup comedian, I have experienced women from around the country. Stereotypes are what they are because those stereotyped are who they are. Northeastern women: These women are isolated. Unlike the shared traits of most women in the USA, almost no geographic similarities exist between Northeasterners and the rest of the country. Having said that, the change in geography is not a set line, but a gradual transition into the other areas…when you go from Northeast to Mid-Atlantic to Southern, you don’t have a hard fast CAREER/FUN/SMOKING RETARD. Instead it gradually transitions from one trait to the other. DC for example, are career women who are more fun seeking than NYC. Raleigh is more fun loving and less career driven and heading toward Florida-level retard than DC, unless baby factory on welfare is considered a career. NE: Career oriented, skinny(not athletic), feminazis who see sex as a way to deal with a body need but not otherwise important. Mid_Atlantic: a thin band that are fun seeking drunkards. They resent the Northeasterners altering their hometown. South: The closer to the beach, the hotter the body. the closer to the Ozarks, the more they become one with the mountain, both in girth and mentality. Midwest: Basically the reservoir lake of Ozarkians who are dammed up by the Appalachian range. Montana(and surrounding states): The rough life keeps them more grounded. Although they could kick the as of the tough girl from NYC, they otherwise keep the femininity that is attractive to most men. They tend to be beefier, not no where near the double whopper from the Midwest. They share much of the traits of Texans. NW: There has got to be a bipolar magnet on Mt. Saint Helen’s. The women are yogatistic tree-hugging nutjobs. They don’t trust the government but are happy to elect libtards who will only work to increase the size of the untrustworthy government they mistrust. Treat them like a squirrel. Feed them, but don’t try to catch one. Once they eat your nuts, let them go back to their hole in the tree. Californians are actually three states and similarly three ares. Northern Cali: NW all the way. Los Angeles: Self-centered cheerleaders…always hot and centered on themselves and making themselves feel good as those we all exist to meet their needs, and when we don’t, their psychy is shattered…it is fun/cute for the first two, then it makes you want to puke. San Diego: Right wingers who love John McCain and Duncan Hunter. Most are hot, but that is probably the illegal alien influence. Some SDers are transplants from the Midwest. The recent transplants are hefty, but soon get in shape and learn to stay quiet because they don’t want people to realize how dumb they really are. Texas: A lot like the Southern, but with a strong party streak. Florida: Like California, it has a couple areas. The Tamp/Jackson/Oralando triangle is pure redneck retard. They have breast sizes that have gravitational pull. They have brains like black holes, which must be why the breasts stay perky with the mutual attraction. Larry the Cable Guy in a woman’s body. Southern Florida: The Cubans are nutso and shittest their men constantly. Here in Orlando, the women are hot, very friendly, because the weather is nice most of the time, and when it isn’t, they are friendly in hopes you will invite them into your hurricane shelter.

    CH posted: “A European man living in the US has a few thoughts to share about American women. He’s quoted in full.

    ******

    So these are my thoughts from a West European man living in the US who had had multiple of women from all continents (my accent and looks c”

    [i don’t deny the validity of your observations about geographic differences in women, but i see these cultural peculiarities getting swamped by geographic mobility, socially atomized transplants, and a rush to blue urban centers by young women. honestly, if you plopped a dude down in a san fran nightclub and a chicago nightclub, he would have a hard time telling any differences in the behavior of the women.]

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    • on February 20, 2015 at 3:56 pm mendozatorres

      You’re right about Cali and spot on about LA.

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    • on February 20, 2015 at 4:08 pm Sentient

      “f you plopped a dude down in a san fran nightclub and a chicago nightclub, he would have a hard time telling any differences in the behavior of the women”

      Yeah but in Chicago they would at least be pretty.

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      • on February 20, 2015 at 9:29 pm Putin

        “Chicago they would at least be pretty” Chicago? Seriously?

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      • on February 21, 2015 at 1:52 am senseiern

        And chances aregreater that it’s really a woman.

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      • on February 21, 2015 at 2:13 am Sentient

        Seriously. Chicago has very high quality. All the Nordic stock from Minnesota Wisconsin and Iowa flood to the big city. Totally not kidding.

        But best in the summer.

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      • on February 22, 2015 at 1:01 pm Freddie

        And they would at least be biological women!

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  44. on February 20, 2015 at 12:20 pm Anonymous

    we can't let lone nutters get in the way of progress #illridewithyou #endwhitepeople #socialjustice #stopracism #wearetheworld

    — Barbara L Spectre (@Barbara_Spectre) December 17, 2014

    a recent tweet from that YKW witch that wants to destroy europe

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    • on February 20, 2015 at 3:35 pm mendozatorres

      She’s wishing to get nutted

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  45. on February 20, 2015 at 12:28 pm jfkswingman

    Wiki says Maplewood is 35% is AA, so one guess on the ethnicity of the ‘teens’.

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  46. on February 20, 2015 at 12:51 pm The Spirit Within

    I’m seeing a woman from Barcelona right now. Her compliant, sexy attitude is such a breath of fresh air. I’m going to screen *for* foreign women from now on.

    The blonde Megyn Kelly competo-bots can cry into their beta males’ shoulders. This alpha doesn’t want ’em.

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    • on February 20, 2015 at 1:20 pm Dr. Giggles

      Funny you mention how compliant your woman from Barcelona is. We like to think that something inherent about American culture that makes women mannish. But women’s bad attitudes has to do more with the way men, from their hometown, treat them.

      Back in college, in my Spanish Lit class, one of the girls that sat next to me spent a whole year abroad in Barcelona. She was a cute 6.5 Colombian parents but born and raised in the U.S. (She was about to graduate and already lined a P.R. job at Nabisco). I heard stories from her how the local Catalonian men on the street would body check her with out apology. She said in a scandalized tone how rude they were to her, and how loud and aggressive they sounded when they got into arguments.

      The reason your Catalonian girlfriend is compliant and not-entitled is because the local men who are strangers won’t automatically give her respect or act in deference unless it’s earned or they get to know her personally. The same for other countries. Russian women seem more feminine to us because their men are demanding, and tough with them. Thank the men, not the culture.

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    • on February 20, 2015 at 1:25 pm Philomathean

      Your “toes curl” at the thought of confrontation. What makes you think your paygrade is alpha?

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      • on February 20, 2015 at 1:44 pm Greg Eliot

        Tough to live that one down… lzozlzozlzolzolzolozozl.

        I’d eventually let it pass under normal circumstances… but that “this alpha” self-styling is the big tell, from my experience.

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      • on February 20, 2015 at 3:28 pm Bel Riose

        And Matt King stated he “loved” FeministX/Littlespoon, posted long supportive screeds on her blog, and got nothing but blueballs in return.

        So much for Big Brother Game!

        If we’re not going to let people live down their stupidity, then let’s be sure to add our resident Jesus Freak Jesuit to the list.

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      • on February 20, 2015 at 8:44 pm Philomathean

        I familiar with this genre of faggot.

        He styles himself as a citizen of the world. His mission in life is not to offend and he pays lip service to vibrancy but only experiences it in his choice of foods.

        He’s deathly scared of black people and his experience with them primarily comes from the relationship he enjoys with his television.

        His dad is a faggot. The nuts, bolts and nuance of his faggotry was born from the example his father set.

        His mother ruled the household with an iron cunt.

        He’s never taken a punch to the face, let alone given one. Something every man should experience.

        His notch count stagnates at ~2.

        His favorite reading is YA.

        He prefers to pee sitting down.

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      • on February 21, 2015 at 11:49 am corvinus

        Gamma males often think they’re alphas.

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      • on February 21, 2015 at 9:31 pm The Spirit Within

        @Philomathean

        Cool story bro.

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  47. on February 20, 2015 at 1:07 pm A European Man On American Women | Reaction Times

    […] Source: Heartiste […]

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  48. on February 20, 2015 at 1:17 pm Hardin Thicke

    I’m not doubting Euro man’s observations, but men are not acknowledging is that a woman’s behavior is based on her perception of your value. Women have no core or center or whatever you want to call the “thing” that men have that gives them their sense of being. A woman’s “thing” is situation-based, based on her life circumstances or the man she is with.

    The same woman that is playing games with your texts, is flaking on you, isn’t cooking for you, etc…….is the same girl that answers an Alpha’s text faster than the speed of light, never misses a chance for a date or “date” with him, and maybe she still doesn’t know how to cook but she’s going to make sure her Alpha is fed and his balls are drained before he leaves to go to work the next morning.

    [CH: the general principle you outline is correct, but misses some important details. alpha males do get flaked on and do have to deal with women playing head games. the difference for alphas is that they are good enough to quickly neutralize those natural female tendencies. they just play the game better than lesser men. that doesn’t mean the game totally vanishes on the strength of their mere presence.]

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    • on February 20, 2015 at 2:35 pm Hardin Thicke

      Great clarification.

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      • on February 21, 2015 at 9:14 am Hardin Thicke

        In my experience the men that women perceive as alpha do get flaked on and do have to deal with games, but it’s a lighter test. If she perceives you as alpha she will give you the occasional “pop quiz” to test your alpha creds, but if she has doubts you have to get a perfect score on the SAT before she lightens to load again (heh).

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    • on February 21, 2015 at 6:18 am Tilikum

      I’ll go one step further than CH. You literally WAIT for the game to be played by them, and if you are good enough you can sit there and call out which variation she will try and use before she does it.

      The goal (which by the way our European man is lamenting) is to speed through it, get to the other side. Then you realize that if you stand em on their heads, they all look like sisters. Thats a b ummer day and takes a while to get past.

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  49. on February 20, 2015 at 1:18 pm Lara

    Men tend to like women who like them. It makes we wonder about this man’s claims of success.

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    • on February 20, 2015 at 1:33 pm PA

      That’s generally true but there is a time and place to depersonalize things and comment on the state of affairs of the world. Maybe that’s what the Euro commenter was doing.

      My experiences dating most American women have been excellent and I “lime” American women. I still get along with them well (coworkers, waitresses) but I can step away from personal experience and observe how social forces since the eighties have affected women.

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  50. on February 20, 2015 at 1:25 pm newlyaloof

    It’s Friday, gentlemen! Don’t let anything stand in your way (except for something like this):

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    • on February 20, 2015 at 1:47 pm Greg Eliot

      That’ll make things stand which ain’t got legs…

      … and I bet she’s only had, oh, maybe four or five dozen (ahem) relationships, up to this point… so she’s about ready to “put a ring on it”, boys.

      lzlzozlzozlzozlzozlzozlzozlozlozlozlozl

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      • on February 22, 2015 at 1:06 pm Freddie

        Only ring she’s worrying about is a COCK ring! See what I did there? Cock ring.

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    • on February 20, 2015 at 3:34 pm mendozatorres

      You got to shave before you leave the house in a dress like that… and I don’t mean your legs.

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    • on February 20, 2015 at 9:37 pm Jim Jones

      I would touch her. She’s FAT or should I say Phat!!!!

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    • on February 20, 2015 at 10:15 pm Olay Dave

      Izzat even human? 4 or 5 dozen relationships? In what? A year?

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      • on February 21, 2015 at 7:57 am Greg Eliot

        I was attempting to be charitable. lzozlzozlzozlozlozlozl

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    • on February 21, 2015 at 12:30 am ho

      Fucking mare. Hairpull material.

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  51. on February 20, 2015 at 2:15 pm Ripp

    (OT)

    CH:

    Here’s a great article giving an overview of an HBD documentary produced in Norway. The documentary is several episodes and I’ll bet there are several fatal blows to the leftard narrative in the videos themselves. However time consuming to endure the entire set- the VDARE article gets to the mark quickly.

    Gender and race equalists, genetic nay sayers and the whole damn diversity promoting academia meet your destruction.

    And the conclusion of John Derbyshire is spot on. I imagine if this documentary were to be shown on MSM and in US universities, riots and protesting would ensue at epic levels.

    A CH analysis would be awesome.

    John Derbyshire On Culturalists vs. Biologians; Or, Where Is The American Harald Eia?

    http://www.vdare.com/articles/john-derbyshire-on-culturalists-vs-biologians-or-where-is-the-american-harald-eia

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    • on February 20, 2015 at 4:00 pm ho

      Yet he will blame Islam rather then the genetic tendencies created by Islam for Muslims failure. LOL.

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      • on February 20, 2015 at 6:58 pm Bill

        Derbyshire does talk about genetics especially with blacks and IQ differences.

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      • on February 21, 2015 at 12:35 am ho

        Of course he does. He isn’t a retard. However, there’s a huge blindspot with regards to Islam. Persians, South East Asians or Bosnians aren’t all that bad. Islam itself is probably only 20% of the reason for the violence, IMO. (rest is higher religiosity in general and genetic tendency toward low empathy and tribalism)

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      • on February 21, 2015 at 1:55 am Carlos Danger

        Americans are deeply ignorant of Persia. The West views Persia through the lens of Ancient Greece. Their culture and technology were very advanced in the Ancient World at the same level as Rome, China, or India. Persia had a very advanced logistical network established for its defense and huge industrial infrastructure to support it. There is a lot of untapped brain power there. Ride hard, shoot straight, and tell the truth.

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      • on February 23, 2015 at 11:41 am The Spirit Within

        And Persian people really like American people. We’re simpatico. Many Persians have told me this.

        The government? Meh, not so much…

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    • on February 20, 2015 at 10:32 pm Bill

      That was a great video! The part where the Norwegian social scientists refused to believe in biological differences between sexes even when they are confronted with evidence from British and American scientists.

      The Scandinavians have a religious view of equality and science be damned if it gets in the way of their egalitarian theories. When the interviewer asked the Norwegian “Gender Expert” for the scientific reasons she does not believe in biological differences between genders she said “I have no scientific basis, I have a theoretical basis”.

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      • on February 21, 2015 at 8:00 am Greg Eliot

        It’s easy to think “we’re all the same” when your nation basically is (or at least was, until recently) “all the same”.

        A bit more vibrancy and “Brievik Syndrome” may prove as viable as Stockholm Syndrome.

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    • on February 22, 2015 at 10:30 am Sean Fielding

      Derbyshire amounts to a useful idiot for pro-White thought. Good for inducing noobs to be honest about nogs, but he’s frankly dishonorable on the core problem, the Eskimos. He sucked Goldberg’s cock all those years at NR before the break-up, while belittling a far, far better man, Kevin MacDonald.

      Ever Sailer, a self-avowed philo-J thrilled to get his spot, along with Frost, Derb, PB and so many more over at Eskimo Unz’s, is much stronger on THE question.

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  52. on February 20, 2015 at 2:20 pm Tim

    WOW- and with perfect timing comes this:

    http://jezebel.com/why-do-men-always-think-you-like-them-1686378021

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    • on February 20, 2015 at 3:37 pm Anonymous

      I unwisely followed a link to a movie review on Salon yesterday, and the turd buffet of mental illness on display in the sidebar “most popular” article list was just breathtaking. There is truly nothing left to be said between sane people and liberals.

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      • on February 20, 2015 at 6:55 pm Anonymous

        Yep

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  53. on February 20, 2015 at 2:21 pm Chuck Steak

    This is a bit off-topic; but I figured some folks here would find it interesting to dissect, nonetheless.

    http://time.com/3716469/attraction-internalized-racism/

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  54. on February 20, 2015 at 2:22 pm redpillgirlnotes

    It is sad but true, Amsrican women have been brain washed by feminism that being feminine is wrong and weak. Quite the opposite! So what if a guy body checks you? Add some shimmy to it, wink at him, and enjoy being alive for God’s sake! Smile and move on. Its good innocent fun, not eye rape or whatever its called. F*ck, next the feminists will be advocating burkas! Women, wake up before the blue pill ruins your life. As for this post, CH is on a roll, too many rolicking and clever turns of phrase here to list but this one is my favorite… “but then my threshold for what constitutes an irritatingly bad romantic experience is probably higher than what most men could tolerate or even enjoy.” Taking it for the team, reporting the results, advancing social science and gender relations in a brave new way (that no university would ever ever fund.) What a guy! Hopefully this predicted dating utopia where men act like men and women act like women again will emerge, too late for the gen x’ers, but still it warms the heart thinking of it! May it be so…

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  55. on February 20, 2015 at 2:32 pm anon2

    CH/YaReally et al. — need precise advice on a precise question, please:

    Day 1 (as YaReally calls it) with an HB7 met on old fashioned dating site (not Tinder) — super beautiful face, would be a 9 except she’s 37 years old (I’m 39). Supposed to “meet for just one drink” early evening after work (I set that frame). Turns out she’s cute as I was hoping, she clearly thinks I’m cute, I have my A game that day because I happened to be in a relaxed mood, so doing alpha posture, eye contact, etc was easy. She basically talked a lot and I listened and smiled and looked at her like a piece of meat while licking my lips, tons of good eye contact, good kino while walking around the city (cold night, arm around her, no resistance) but I successfully faked being alpha so she liked it as opposed to it being beta creepy male gaze. I faked it til I maked it and she thought I was hot. End up grabbing some food, only because it was 9 PM and we were hungry…was not set up originally as a beta dinnerview date.

    Then go back to my place, no resistance, making out, I’m thinking “sweet this is in the bag, I’m about to have sex with this hottie.” She has an allergic reaction to my dog, no lie. She had told me she’s allergic to dogs but wanted to come back to my place anyway to see if it would be ok, as it’s a little dog. She literally starts breaking out into hives and having shortness of breath–was not faking it.

    So I got cock blocked by my dog, had to take her out for fresh air, and she’s all flirty but does not agree for me to simply follow her back to her place that night (now it’s midnight; we both have work next day). But she’s super flirty, texts me “you’re so cute!” when she gets home that night, texts me next day saying “hopefully we will go out again soon”. Like basically no shit testing.

    like….. no problems at all.

    In this situation, the following week, how much beta bait is happening and what are the rules of text game now? Only purpose of texting is to set up a meetup. I get it. I have really gotten better about avoiding being the friend guy texting about the weather or any such thing. I sent her a few texts in the week following these events, we were supposed to go out tonight, but she has flaked saying she has to be with her cousin in the hospital all weekend. but starting Wednesday, also, her texts dropped off, whereas before she was the one being sort of beta flirty with me. we had talked about meeting up Wed night (seemed to me a sealed deal) and she was supposed to text me when she got home (to tell me to come over) and never did (which was simply rude IMO to not send any text all after directly saying she’d text me when she got home).

    Ok… perhaps I’m not giving you enough info but I did not text all that much after the magic night last Thursday and Wednesday, a whole week, did not see her, in the meantime have 4 other plates I’m working on.. She should not have gotten the impression that I’m a thirsty beta lasering in on her.

    I supposed she might actually have a sick cousin in the hospital, but when she’s being flirty, that does not prevent sending a text. Could it be late late LMR or whatever you would call it because she was seeming soooo easy before? She was the one telling me “hopefully we’ll go out again soon” then she picked Friday (today). I only suggested Wed spur of the moment on Wed because it seemed like such a done deal and did that in a super alpha way too (won’t go into details) – that was the night she said she’d text me when she got home and then sent no text.

    Thoughts? I did not over text her, in my opinion, but did I need to act super aloof and not communicate with her at all for a week to seem like it’s no big deal to me, even after she tells me I’m “sooo cute” and says “hopefully” we’ll do it again soon??? I mean, we basically said literally ok next time lol we’ll just go to her apartment because of the dog allergy thing. I was thinking this is super sweet because she lives down town right next to my office. Could not be a better situation if she wants to be a FB.

    As I type this, I realize that one answer might be that if she’s that easy with me, she is with other guys too, and she is indeed hot (looks very young), so she could have been on another day 1 with another guy that went well, that night, same story different guy. Perhaps she does it every night.

    On that note, one way that I have successfully killed my inner beta is any hint of jealousy or expectations or Oneitus-focus. I’m getting better and having fun flirting with several plates…need more, but I’m working on it. If she’s spinning male plates, great, good for her!–I don’t care. I just want to be one of the plates. I’m wondering if she wrongly thinks I would want exclusivity LTR?

    So my question is also how to let her know that “I get it” and I just want to be “in the YaReally club” of guys who get it, and she does not need to worry about me being a needy beta schlub stalker creeper who is going to text her all day and fall in love. I just want her one night per week. I feel like she beta baited me the week after my dog cock blocked me (that was a done deal, that night!), and perhaps my move was to go more dickish alpha like make fun of her? “hey slow down baby you’re not getting a ring any time soon” ??? or simply go silent for 5 days after that one night ???

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  56. on February 20, 2015 at 2:47 pm Tim

    I personally am just reaching a level of profound disdain of virtually all women. It makes me not even want to approach anymore, because a few sex sessions doesn’t seem worth dealing with the bullshit anymore, especially for someone I am almost positive I won’t really like. Any advice for this negative mindset?

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    • on February 20, 2015 at 3:27 pm Carlos Danger

      Sodomy?

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      • on February 20, 2015 at 4:02 pm Tim

        It’s fine if that’s what works for you but that’s something I’m not interested in.

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      • on February 21, 2015 at 12:31 am Carlos Danger

        Your post had us worried. Stop expecting them to think like men or find one who does. >My guess is that’s at the heart of the Problem. The vapidity and lack of mechanical reasoning skills is what annoys me most about them.

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    • on February 20, 2015 at 3:55 pm ER

      For reals? Wingman! Let’s sarge bro!

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      • on February 21, 2015 at 8:12 am no

        Heh right on

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  57. on February 20, 2015 at 2:59 pm PA

    Here is my Friday Female Felicity. An enchanting performance, more Apollonian than Dionysian in this Bealtes cover. Her eyes roll back as though she’s in a profound mystic state. Her breasts swell when she takes an inhale ahead of the incantation Jai Guru Dava, Um, or “give thanks to the holy teacher”

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    • on February 21, 2015 at 8:42 am James Blonde

      The singing bar is so low for hot white girls.

      Wake me up when you find one worth LISTENING to.

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    • on February 22, 2015 at 10:44 am Sean Fielding

      Thanks PA. Check out the Aryan aesthetic of her flight cap and jacket – a perfect match for her face. This look is starting to come on strong now.

      Laibach has long been coy on this but their explicit views don’t matter. As with game, it’s what they do, how they look, the symbols, that matter.

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  58. on February 20, 2015 at 2:59 pm Hugh Mann

    OT – “Mass brawl breaks out between two groups of women at Fifty Shades of Grey screening”

    http://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/mass-brawl-breaks-out-between-two-groups-of-women-at-fifty-shades-of-grey-showing-10059946.html

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  59. on February 20, 2015 at 3:01 pm Amy

    “Female teacher pedofucking has got to be on the rise; there have been too many stories in the past few years like this one to count. Is it something in the water? Nah. I think what we are seeing is the leading edge of a culture speeding into full scale disintegration.”

    I wonder about this too. It’s possible it used to go unreported. But also… it used to be that women were teachers until they got married, which meant that teachers fell into two groups: (1) young women looking to settle down or (2) spinsters. We didn’t have married-but-bored pretty teachers in their 20’s like we do now. The pretty girls married early and left.

    I think the general western feminization of men has had many terrible consequences, but I don’t think female teachers lusting after students is one of them. If these women are looking for rough masculinity, how many 16 year old boys really fit the bill? And the dynamic is all wrong, with the female in the teacher/leader position.

    I think it’s an outgrowth of our increasingly hedonistic, amoral culture. Reality TV, ubiquitous porn, casual hookups. YOLO mindset.

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  60. on February 20, 2015 at 3:31 pm Carlos Danger

    This is for PA.

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    • on February 20, 2015 at 3:34 pm Carlos Danger

      Not the one I wanted. Sorry. Sasha’s still hot.

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      • on February 20, 2015 at 3:37 pm PA

        go ahead and name the one you intended. I’m not very current on contemporary pop singers over there (the ones my underage relatives in the old country post on FB invariably suck) but there have been some really good ones in the 90s. Interestingly, eighties-on, PL in my opinion produced much better rocker grrl than sexy divas.

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      • on February 21, 2015 at 12:27 am Carlos Danger

        I wanted Sasha, just not this one. It’s some cheesy amateur’s cover using the videos pictures. The song is actually wholesome and upbeat and sentimental fare but well made. I mostly think Sasha’s nice looking and it was also meant to be a plug for Slavonic women. I see a lot of good pop videos coming out of Eastern Europe

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  61. on February 20, 2015 at 4:03 pm remmem

    Got a question for yareally or anyone who’s hard-nexted a girl..

    Had a GF of 7months. She started getting flaky and bitchy to me, hard-nexted her.

    She caught glimpses of me during it with other girls, one time she blind-sided me when I was on a bench, on a date with a girl and there was absolute terror in her voice. I laughed and left immediately w/o speaking to her. (lol, didnt laugh on purpose.)

    Anyways 3 months past and she txted me. Ignored it, she txted me again the next night ” What are you doing tonight.”

    Two days later I finally called her and asked if I could stop by, She was absolutely against it, told me she had to go and hung up. Was kinda pissy.

    I txt her the next day..She rapid fires my questions..I told her too many questions i’d call her..

    She replies, ” No, that’s ok.”

    I called her, shit-tested me really hard and I mostly passed IMO. She was laughing by the end but said, ” I’m not doing this!!”, meaning not making small talk/ shooting the shit with me.

    Why’d that happen? What’s up? And do I give up or chase her for a bit?

    First time I’ve ever hard-nexted a girl.

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    • on February 20, 2015 at 6:22 pm Deep Winter Chode

      My read: You dumped her – and the rest is her making you jump through her hoops. Do not chase, give her a ‘little spoon doesn’t make the rules” response to her next test – without saying it – make her realize that flakiness, bitchiness and head games don’t earn your attention. Then set her up for success by giving her a hoop of yours to jump through.

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    • on February 20, 2015 at 8:42 pm YaReally

      “Two days later I finally called her and asked if I could stop by, She was absolutely against it, told me she had to go and hung up. Was kinda pissy.”

      You gave her the validation she wanted so she doesn’t need to chase you anymore.

      Now you have to hard-next her for like 6 months because now you’ve taught her that if you hard-next her you’ll eventually cave and start chasing her again and call her and “ask if you can stop by” (?? wtf, you don’t do this, you wait till she’s begging to stop by your place and then you reluctantly allow her to, you don’t go chasing HER lol).

      You’re chasing her now which undoes everything the Next was doing so you might as well not have done a Next in the first place.

      Don’t cave on the Next or you just fuck yourself over. Read walawala’s fiasco with his ex for what happens when you keep caving on a Next too soon.

      (also for accuracy’s sake this isn’t a Hard Next, a Hard Next is when she’s completely removed from your life forever, you’re just doing a long Soft Next…common mistake tho, I’ve probably fucked this terminology up myself in the past lol)

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      • on February 20, 2015 at 10:34 pm walawala

        @ remmem/YaReally Yes…this takes incredible discipline. All that happened because she’s lost attraction for you and your “Value” has gone down…there’s no “dread”…

        My biggest mistake as YaReally points out was to constantly believe that I could circumvent the process…that by responding to her little pop-ups in my life…I could make her want me….It only set me back. Only when I took the initiative, told her to “fuck off” and walked away…for good…did she start to come around…slowly…

        After 10 months of ignoring her…finally she came around…slowly. When she did something nice…I would reward her with a crumb of attention…usually to say “hi” or dance with her.

        I left it to her to make the moves and I would decide how I felt. Finally after 10 months she came to my New Year’s party at the very end to dance with me. “I knew you’d come” I said…she was all flustered. That was my own amused mastery. I got her to help me clean up the venue…made out with her, then said bye as I went home with another girl.

        See? By then I didn’t care. The “Soft next” is to leave…let her come back to you and make the effort.

        Case and point…27 year old I’m banging…flakes, comes back. She now gets how it works. She tells me “I don’t want to talk to you!!!” Because I made other plans for Valentines Day. Me: “…” disappear.

        She reaches out to wish me happy lunar new year….I reach back…Set up a date to bang her.

        The punishment has to fit the crime here…the power of the “Soft Next” is that it lasts as long as it has to….You can’t be soft-nexting every time she’s late for 5 minutes. But you have to be disciplined enough to stick to it for the appropriate amount of time. Also, SHE has to be the one to reach out NOT you…so wait it out.

        Finally, you can’t say anything about the “Soft-next” otherwise you look like you’re “Punishing” her….She’ll know you are…but women are all about “covert” communication….she’ll ask you… You just say “Busy with friends”…or something.

        But ultimately….and this is a credit to YaReally, if she’s broken up with you…that’s bad…in my crazy ex’s case…she broke up…she didn’t have a fight with me…or wasn’t pissed off at me. IF that’s your case…you have to disappear. She will want to reconnect. But then you have to ask yourself…what’s the point?

        A third-case…23 year old I was banging…suddenly just wants to end things. I told her “let’s meet up”…she said “no”….I never replied and have ignored her now for 4 months. I see her…She gives me IOI’s….I ignore.

        Anything short of her throwing herself at me…is not worth me lowering myself to be “Friends” or whatever it is she’s looking for.

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      • on February 20, 2015 at 10:41 pm Putin

        “My biggest mistake as YaReally points out was to constantly believe that I could circumvent the process…that by responding to her little pop-ups in my life…I could make her want me….It only set me back. Only when I took the initiative, told her to “fuck off” and walked away…for good…did she start to come around…slowly…”

        Cannot say it enough. Sometimes the best response is no response.

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      • on February 21, 2015 at 2:09 am Sentient

        Solid gold advice from @wala….

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      • on February 21, 2015 at 7:19 am no

        Game is solid otherwise minus the drunk texts but I am having trouble advancing on mixed sets or going deeper into the set trying to steal the girl away from the guy. Even a link to something to get the brain moving would help. Also have you ever stolen a cute lesbian off her gffffff lol knowwhatimsayn….a lot of these in the gangs that I run with….

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      • on February 21, 2015 at 7:28 am no

        Also I would love to go as your wingman sometime. I guess I can contact you from your wallpaper blog but I would just fly into your city and but all your beer and other party memorabilia for a week. I may have a big chunk of cashola coming round the bend but it may not be till the end of the year. Really want to meet you if possible. I of course will have to fly in with my top girl and another homeboy for safety in numbers.

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      • on February 21, 2015 at 5:22 pm remmem

        Damn dude, there is so much conflicting advice being thrown out with soft-nexting, get’s really confusing.

        It sounds like what you’re saying is the case here though. I feel like I had a lot of hand, and now it’s gone.

        It was actually a conscious decision to chase after her for a bit, I soft-nexted her for two weeks once before..She was really just..Butt-hurt. She drunk called me like 4 dff nights..I call her and she absolutely is over ever seeing me again. I told her she’s overreacting, that I still wanted to hangout if we could get along..And she txts me two days later to hangout.

        Idk. I’ve had a lot of success putting a little effort to get back in touch with girls after soft-nexting them. Never really blocked a girl out for so long before.

        Is making an ex beg to get back with you really the only way? Can’t you just hit them up after like 8 months of silence and “Wanna get a drink?”

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      • on February 21, 2015 at 6:11 pm YaReally

        @remmem
        “It was actually a conscious decision to chase after her for a bit”

        Irrelevant. Doesn’t matter why you wrote 2 + 2 = 5, you may have been perfectly justified from your perspective but 2 + 2 still = 4, you’re not getting the checkmark on your test for it regardless of whether it was on purpose or not. Sounds harsh but that’s just how it is lol

        “I soft-nexted her for two weeks once before..She was really just..Butt-hurt. She drunk called me like 4 dff nights..I call her and she absolutely is over ever seeing me again. I told her she’s overreacting, that I still wanted to hangout if we could get along..And she txts me two days later to hangout.”

        And how did that work out in the long-run? Like you said “She started getting flaky and bitchy to me” Why do you suppose that happened? What girl would start getting flaky and bitchy to her man? Maybe one who’s been taught by that man that no matter how shitty she behaves, he will eventually chase her again…she now has two reference experiences that no matter how shitty she is, all she has to do is waggle her tits in your face a few times and you’ll chase her again.

        So now you’ve taught her TWICE not to respect you. The reason you’re here now is a direct result of your actions from before, where you taught her she doesn’t need to fear losing you.

        “Idk. I’ve had a lot of success putting a little effort to get back in touch with girls after soft-nexting them. Never really blocked a girl out for so long before.

        Is making an ex beg to get back with you really the only way? Can’t you just hit them up after like 8 months of silence and “Wanna get a drink?””

        lol I mean, try it and let us know how it works out in the long-run. You might be the lucky lottery winner.

        Like walawala said:

        “My biggest mistake as YaReally points out was to constantly believe that I could circumvent the process…”

        Sorry dude. If it helps we’ve ALL been there at some point. I know how it feels, but right action takes priority over good feels.

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      • on February 21, 2015 at 10:55 pm walawala

        @Ren “”Is making an ex beg to get back with you really the only way? Can’t you just hit them up after like 8 months of silence and “Wanna get a drink?”””

        I will only share my insights and you will have to do what you think is best.

        The answer to your question is NO…unless you really want to just hang out.

        Calling an ex out of the blue is like opening a random girl on the street. She has to give you an IOI or you’re just opening a random girl…and she’ll immediately clue in that you want to bang her…then she’ll have hand.

        Story from a few days ago…my crazy ex shows up at party i’m at with a bottle of champagne for the holidays and asks me if I can put it in the fridge where I store things. “OK…as long as you pour me a drink.”

        I store it. I’m with another girl, she comes by and asks for the champagne. I go to get it and without her seeing…shake the fucker up and then politely hand it to her. Later I hear a loud POP! Sure enough, she comes by with the champagne. She dances with me…she’s back giving me IOI’s.

        So I text her later: “You’re stupid” that’s just another random text I send to girls…

        Her: “No, you are..”

        Me: Nah, you got me drunk…tomorrow I’ll be sober…tomorrow you’ll still be…

        Her; blah blah blah banter…

        I left it there.

        That’s a year more or less of the soft-next. It’s a year of just ignoring her. A year of moving on. A year of banging other girls. You sound like you’re still hung up on her=oneitis. She contacts you for validation and attention NOT because she wants to be with you. When you understand that…the “Soft-next” concept becomes easier. The 27 year old I bang…gets this because I’m doing it early and consistently. The crazy one finally understood it after YaReally drilled into my thick head how to do it…

        But she was the one who made the first move. Now? I don’t really care. This is more a teaching moment for me than something I’d like to re-ignite. At some point I will bang her again…but I’ll make it her idea…then I will get…to put it in psychobabble terms… “Closure”…

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      • on February 23, 2015 at 2:00 pm Pete

        @ YaReally, Wala, Anyone else

        I’m in a similar situation and not sure how to handle the next’ing. I’ll (have to) cross paths the girl in my social circle pretty regularly. Told her explicitly I’m not interested in “playing friends” (as per Rollo), but she keeps contacting me every 3-4 days.

        How would you handle cutting ties without being anti-social or coming across as butthurt? Absolutely don’t want to make a scene, since we kept things discreet beforehand.

        Should I just ignore her texts and let her figure it out herself? Should I block her number, unfriend her on facebook? Should I straight up tell her to “fuck off” for trying to push her LJBF frame on me and extract my attention?

        And I know ya feel me when I say that I don’t want to completely burn bridges just in case she decides to come back around later. Yeah, still hung up on her.

        (And yeah, I’m working on two fresh prospects already. The rational part of my brain knows what needs to be done, and I’m taking action.)

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      • on February 24, 2015 at 12:00 am walawala

        @Pete this was/is my situation with a few girls. You’re getting hung up on the “social circle” thing thinking you’ll be judged by your peers. Who cares.

        I had this happen twice. The most recent was a girl I was banging who just suddenly decided we were “too close”.

        How do I handle it? I ignore her…completely…like she doesn’t exist. I greet everyone but her….If I have to—like at Christmas, I wish her a Merry Christmas like I’m a robot and then move on to the next girl like she’s my favorite: “Hey! Merry Christmas!” Back turns. Now the girl always gives me IOI’s and motions to me to say hi, smiles or sulks. I ignore…I walked by her the other day and just give her a perfunctory nod or a raised eyebrow like “Seriously???” and walk on.

        I did that with my crazy ex as well. At some point crazy ex came round. She wants something—attention or something. But now when she gives something….I reward. But I don’t go out of my way to give her anything…

        She smiles….I smile. But this was only AFTER she made several major efforts on her own and of her own initiative….and after a sufficient period of time.

        For the second one…no. She was a complete bitch so rather than sulking, I just carry on like she’s invisible. Don’t make eye contact unless you have to. She’ll figure it out.

        Remember….you’re doing this for YOU not to punish her. IF she wants to be “Friends” and this is not an option for you….let her go. The outreach she’s making isn’t about igniting a spark…it’s to relieve her guilt and confusion.

        AFTER a sufficient amount of time on your part and some REAL concrete actions on her part: gift, help, banging….whatever…then you can re-game her the way you would any new girl….For now….eject.

        It takes discipline. But remember by disconnecting from her, you’re freeing yourself up to pursue opportunities with girls who do want you for more than a friend.

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    • on February 21, 2015 at 12:40 am ho

      Pretty sure you’re still good to go. Need to stay balanced.

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      • on February 22, 2015 at 2:28 am remmem

        “Irrelevant. Doesn’t matter why you wrote 2 + 2 = 5”

        I read that on blackdragon’s thread about soft-nexting, not my idea. Same with shooting them a feeler txt after 3-6 months to meetup, a year if that fails.

        “still hung up on her=oneitis. She ”

        Kind of. It really is tragic, we had a really good thing. I’m more attractive than her, I have banged a dozen girls hotter than her in my life but it’s ok cause she is just perfectly my type. We have good physical and emotional chemistry. She had incredible attraction for me at one point in time, very invested. Not an easy thing to replace.

        I guess my plan as of now is disappear for 5-6 months…If she re-initiates contact with me…Slowly give her snippets of attention until she chases herself back into my life.

        The two txts she sent me a week ago:

        “You looked good tonight.”(she caught a glimpse of me with another girl.)

        NExt night 1:30 a.m “What are you doing tonight?”

        So basically I should of strung her along, ” Busy..Not really interested to be honest, sorry.”

        Unforunately in 6 months i’ll have other girls by than. And I don’t see her chasing me 9 months after we parted ways beyond a casual, ” Hey whats up?”, she won’t give two shits by than. Neither will I.

        P.s. Thanks for the information. I’ve had 3 gf’s my entire life, literally wandering in the dark here, no idea what to do.

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      • on February 22, 2015 at 3:16 pm YaReally

        @remmem
        “I read that on blackdragon’s thread about soft-nexting, not my idea. Same with shooting them a feeler txt after 3-6 months to meetup, a year if that fails.”

        Gotta’ understand that you’re dealing with a bigger problem than he’s talking about. He’s talking about first offenses but you, I’m assuming, let her behavior get out of control enough to finally soft next her. So by default you’re dealing with a much more aggressive situation, which calls for a longer next and being harder to get than a default 3-7 day recontact her soft next.

        Like, you let a LOT of little behaviors slide over those 7 months that added up to this. Every time you let one of those behaviors slide that’s another reference experience she has that you’ll put up with bullshit.

        If you had been properly soft next’ing her literally from day 1 on very minor infractions, you wouldn’t get to the point where you have to do a huge soft next like this.

        That’s why it’s hard for a married guy to suddenly start soft nexting his wife. She already has like 10 years of experience of him letting her get away with shit so she doesn’t respect his authority or willingness to cut her out of his life for good. Whereas a girl who, the very first couple times she’s late for something or cancels something, suffers instant soft nexts, she’s very likely to quit that behavior because she realizes it has immediate consequences and she’s not likely to ramp that behavior UP because she fears losing the guy.

        Make sense? It’s like a dog, you can calm a dog down as long as you get him when he’s just noticing a car and is a 3 on a 1-10 scale of aggression, but if you let that dog get to a 7 it’s gonna be a lot harder, and if he gets to a 10 you aren’t gonna be able to control him. So from day 1 you have to be paying attention and be ready to snuff that shit out before it even gets to a 3 so that it learns not to go past 3. If you let it constantly jack up to 10 every time a car goes by, when the 50th car that goes by and you try to get his attention to calm him down at 3 he’s going to ignore that and blast up to 10 because he’s so used to that.

        “Unforunately in 6 months i’ll have other girls by than. And I don’t see her chasing me 9 months after we parted ways beyond a casual, ” Hey whats up?”, she won’t give two shits by than. Neither will I.”

        That’s the rub. 🙂 GFTOW and use this relationship to force yourself to remember how important it is to be soft next’ing at the start and set the frame of the relationship from day one. Don’t be passive, be active.

        It’s like having multiple girls, if the girl you’re with knows from day one that you have other girls on the go then she’ll be okay with it if she stays with you. But if you act like you have no other girls and do 5 years with her and then suddenly want to have other girls, you’re going to have an uphill if not impossible battle because you didn’t set that frame from the start.

        Don’t worry, it gets easier with time. All of this is learning experiences. There are other amazing chicks out there and you’ll enter relationships with them handling them with proper discipline from day 1 because of this loss.

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      • on February 22, 2015 at 5:30 pm walawala

        @renmen I totally understand. Read my posts to get a sense of what to expect…a year ago, I was where you are now…

        You’re still in Blue Pill thinking with the whole “good chemistry” thing. All this scheming on how to get your ex back is frankly a waste of time. If she was interested she’d be with you…period.

        Typically girls self-sabotage..but don’t make it easier for her. Knowing what I know now, if I was her, i’d still be sending you texts every now and then because 1) it would give me validation when you responded—even if you were shitty to me 2) I like the drama without the investment of being together 3) I’m probably chasing some other dude so texting you helps to take the edge off THAT chase.

        That…is how chicks think. Forget about her and move on. Read YaReally’s posts to me. Also, read Rollo Tomassi’s post on “Dumpster Diving”…

        Do better with the next girl with all you’ve learned with this one. Now I have 3 on the go, two I’m banging and one I’m gaming who cooks for me and wants to “Get to know the real you” which requires long-game. Two are in their 20’s… Suddenly crazy ex is fluttering around in the wings trying to get my attention….and true to form after banging 13 women last year…I don’t really care other than for the learning opportunities it provides.

        I look at all these experiences as teaching moments for myself. You can do that too.

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      • on February 22, 2015 at 7:04 pm YaReally

        got a response in mod

        also a response up above in mod. PLZ HELP ME HURTIZTE!!11

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  62. on February 20, 2015 at 4:21 pm Anonymous

    I’m going to defend American women in this regard: they (most of them) grew up in an environment with a culture of insanity where the traditional, and rational, culture was obliterated by relentless political propaganda and “marketing”. Now they don’t know who they are or what they’re supposed to do. Up is down. Down is up. And they have to take antidepressants to get through the day without crying.

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    • on February 20, 2015 at 5:24 pm redpillgirlnotes

      I would agree, not to make excuses. I think women have been led astray by the ideologies of the past 40 years, just as blue pill men have been. Most women born post feminism/sexual revolution simply accept these ideas as “the way things are,” rather than question if they are true, or if it’s working. And so they live according, their lives are messed up, they don’t understand why, they double down on the shit that’s not working, only making things worse. If they do question it, they likely get so much flack they learn not to, when they do play along they get affirmation and atta girls. Women are creatures of consensus, so to take a stand or break from the crowd is not a “woman trait” but clearly it also works against us. I wish more women would question these ideas – feminism, sexual revolution, the push for women to get an expensive education and then pursue an intensive career, the dismantling/marginalizing of marriage and family, ask themselves if it is working, and if not now what? I learned pretty quickly in school that the ok answer to “what do you want to be when you grow up” was NOT a wife and mom. God forbid!!! The reaction would be you may as well throw away your life, girl! The next girl says doctor or teacher or lawyer or president, she gets praise and go girl! Be all you can be! The indoctrination starts young.

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    • on February 20, 2015 at 6:32 pm Deep Winter Chode

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    • on February 20, 2015 at 6:59 pm Anonymous

      Yep, but you’re not the first to say that here. Not even the first today.

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    • on February 23, 2015 at 11:35 am remmem

      ” Forget about her and move on. Read YaReally’s posts to me. Also, read Rollo Tomassi’s post on “Dumpster Diving”…”

      I have. You guys have to realize that I thought I was taking right action, i’m not sitting here pining over this girl and txting her because I lack self-control.

      Realized something was off though, that’s why i’m here.

      “You’re still in Blue Pill thinking with the whole “good chemistry” thing.”

      Bleh. She is replaceable. I’ve gone out 7 days a week since I nexted her and have braught one solid mltr quality girl into my life thus far(who moved.) It’s just objective reality that it’ll take awhile till one pops up again. Not complaining, it is what it is.

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  63. on February 20, 2015 at 7:24 pm bo jangles

    I always thought I was over the top antiUS female..then I asked a Colombian girl I know what she thought of them..she topped me by a mile.

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  64. on February 20, 2015 at 7:41 pm splooge

    lol at nice ondian
    anyways think its south euro culture to be more emotioal and warm an northern ones are stoic and feel awkard by affection and passion. they afe mire stoic.

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  65. on February 20, 2015 at 8:07 pm walawala

    I’m torn on this post. On the one hand I think it applies to women in my own country too. On the other…is this a reality or a perception caused by my own failures with them?

    I tried something new this past week…not losing my shit with women: no calling them out on their crap…not responding immediately to shit-tests, not taking the bait…

    The results are still not solidified but by doing this, the girls who were acting up came back…the “Soft-next” worked…I’m setting up a few bangs next week.

    I think the frustration comes from having an impatient mind-set…I want results…NOW..(American) women with their entitlement issues are making it vital for guys to adopt a strong frame and get their inner game issues sorted…

    This stood out for me:

    …””badboys are having a grand noncommittal time exploiting a sexual market starved for their special brand of lovingkindness, and dispirited women are flailing to gain leverage against their own darkest, desirous urges. The Pillsbury Betaboys meanwhile are trying harder than ever, supplicating and prostrating themselves until all life is drained out of vaginas subject to their anhedonic pleadings.””

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  66. on February 20, 2015 at 9:20 pm Putin

    “Oh the games – how any man can build a communication of basic trust with an American woman is beyond me.”

    That is why many years ago, when I was single, my game morphed into no game. I played no games and it was the perfect weapon for games. I ask you out and if there is any hesitation then I move on. Adios. Eventually they wonder why I am not pursuing them. They eventually became permanent sea urchins in my life. It was a bit of a slow process but had very good long term results.

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  67. on February 20, 2015 at 11:40 pm PA

    In the ‘learn something new everyday if you pay attention’ category… I learned via a Sailer thread that Radiohead’s “Creep” was judged in court as a ripoff of The Hollies “The Air that I Breathe.”

    Damn. I like both songs. Creep is near-perfect musically. Patrice O’Neill was right, that song hits White soul.

    So where is the ripoff? The tempo, the bass line maybe. Chords? Half the fucking Country and old rock sings do the A-D-A-E chord progression like in ‘You are my sunshine’ and ‘This land is your land’ and Waylon Jennings ‘Amanda’ and Dan Baird ‘I love you period.’. There are only so many chords to work with. Or Bm-A and G-C or G-D-Em, like ‘Freebird’ or 4Non Blondes ‘What’s up’ or Lennon ‘Happy Christmas’ or Pink Floyd ‘Comfortably Numb’ doing the ubiquitous G-C and A-D progression.

    Nonetheless, I haven’t heard the Hollies song in a while so it’s good to be reminded of it.

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    • on February 21, 2015 at 12:22 am Carlos Danger

      I made that connection right away when I first heard Creep. Still, Creep is in a different key and has a different beat too. I think the judge was a Hollies fan and wanted to give them some money. I’ve heard far more obvious rip offs that were never challenged.

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      • on February 21, 2015 at 8:32 am James Blonde

        Carlos Danger
        I think the judge was a Hollies fan and wanted to give them some money. I’ve heard far more obvious rip offs that were never challenged.
        ——————————————————————————————-

        Bingo.

        The judge was probably an arrogant boomer trying to force youngsters to recognize and kowtow to his generation…

        A large part of white creativity is now employed inventing new ways to sue each other instead of producing things of constructive value.

        Radio heads production qualities (mixing, mastering) are one of the main reasons for their success; its ear candy. Personally Im underwhelmed by their ethos.

        Maybe its a white thing?

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      • on February 21, 2015 at 10:06 am Bill Brasky

        Im white, a guitar playing music fan, and I never understood why Radiohead is put on such a pedestal.

        It just sounds like such weak faggotry from the pseudo intellectual swpl types.

        Art needs balls.

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  68. on February 20, 2015 at 11:47 pm Stationarity

    Meanwhile, what fresh hell is this?

    https://archive.today/MuBdh

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  69. on February 21, 2015 at 3:09 am Amasius

    “Part of this male enfeeblement is itself caused by a legal and extralegal punitive bias against traditionally European expressions of masculinity.”

    I just lost my job (no warnings ever) for flipping off a female co-worker who screamed at me to shut up, so I know how this goes. I don’t consider myself alpha at all, I just stood up for myself in a basic way and I got nuked for doing so.

    The “victim” (who is a blatant narcissistic sociopath and had been harassing me for months), the HR person, and my union rep were all “empowered” “professional” “women” therefore I didn’t stand a chance.

    Women have instituted a reign of terror over men which has reduced many of us to pussified cowards and they will punish us if we ever act masculine, yet they also crave masculinity. I don’t even know how to disentangle such contradictory garbage.

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    • on February 21, 2015 at 6:35 am Tilikum

      leave the corps to the women, let em crash.

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      • on February 21, 2015 at 10:21 am Tam the Bam

        But that’s Not Fair!
        Therefore successful, ruthless yet unemotional, profitable male-heavy one-man bands, startups, and even full-on enterprises shall be taxed, to “support” Lean-In shoulderpadded part-time GoGrrrl Kaffeeklatsch clusterfucks. Because equality.

        Mark me words …

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    • on February 21, 2015 at 9:22 am Captain Obvious

      > “a blatant narcissistic sociopath… yet they also crave masculinity. I don’t even know how to disentangle such contradictory garbage.”

      The Evil Psychiatrists had seen this Cluster B insanity in their female patients, and they KNEW DAMNED WELL that unleashing this insanity could bring an entire civilization to its knees. Ergo “Feminism”.

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    • on February 21, 2015 at 10:30 am James Blonde

      Amasius, “the finger” is basically the most direct “fuck you” a person can deploy; too direct for the work place I say.

      I suggest the passive aggressive approach for such situations because that way, not only do you fuck them; but you make them do all the work.

      and, and,

      as a side effect, your “barb” (if I may use some GE), takes up more real estate in their skulls and the people who witness it.

      Ambiguity has a quality all its own.

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      • on February 21, 2015 at 3:20 pm Greg Eliot

        It’s about time you returned the (((shakin’ mah haid))) favor. 😉

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    • on February 21, 2015 at 10:44 pm Mark Kimmel

      Are you married? If not, hire a lawyer and file a formal wrongful termination suit. You can claim you were fired because you’re gay.

      Fight fire with fire. Fight victim status with victim status.

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  70. on February 21, 2015 at 3:15 am Daily Linkage – February 21, 2015 | The Dark Enlightenment

    […] A European Man On American Women | Chateau Heartiste […]

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  71. on February 21, 2015 at 10:09 am themightysieben

    lol. Author is intimidated by sporty aggressive american women.

    If you’re not dating a terrorist, you’re not alive.

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  72. on February 21, 2015 at 3:02 pm Carlos Danger

    This one is for Greg Elliot and James Blonde.

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  73. on February 21, 2015 at 6:15 pm Mark Kimmel

    OT: The propaganda machine starts young. Now, sending your kids to public or private schools in U.S. will mean teaching your child self-hate from day 1:

    http://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/22/nyregion/at-new-york-private-schools-challenging-white-privilege-from-the-inside.html

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  74. on February 22, 2015 at 7:00 am Darius Dread

    Gerhard Tamson said “Also, he claims to be a “European man”, but he could just as easily be a naturalized arab. In that case, it wouldn’t be surprising that he was getting shut down by white women in America.”

    I think he’s onto something here.

    So i’m a Dutchman, with relatives in Arizona and Colorado, and i have experience with life in American society, including how women tend to be like, and reading this diatribe i must conclude that the guy writing this is indeed more likely to be a naturalized arab, or an american pretending to be a European man.

    Judging by the writing, i think it’s the latter of those two options.

    As a European man allow me to say, that there is absolutely no difference between northern European white women, and American white women.

    Same attitude, same looks, same everything.

    I Don’t believe a European man actually wrote this.

    I sounds like this whole post was a “foreign women” rant from some guy still living in the delusion that women elsewhere are any different from how women are in the States, it’s a pathetic “greener pastures elsewhere” mentality.

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    • on February 23, 2015 at 9:21 pm van gorilla

      Northern European women are also very masculine in comparison to Southern Euro women. …hell in Scandanavia the men dont even approach.

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    • on February 23, 2015 at 9:26 pm van gorilla

      Actually it pains me to admit it being of Geman stock myself, I was very dissapointed in the number of smoking, drunken, slutty sclampen when I got to der Vaterland. I can tell you English women are the worst, followed by German and Dutch and sadly even through the beauty in Scandanavia I was sadly surprised at the amount of boring drunken sluts. Now Spanish, Italian, some French and nuat about all Eastern Euro women are far more feminine, slim and beautiful in general than the West.

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  75. on February 23, 2015 at 10:24 am gig

    Based on my experiences if you date girls from the Catholic countries in Europe – it is fun and an adventurous.
    The girls are out to meet a future husband eventually for sure – but right now they want great, fun experiences – good food, travel, dancing, laughing.
    I have met so many warm blooded amazing women who are fun, laid back, love children, fantastic cooks, great sensual lovers and definitely future mother material.

    Similar enjoyment with Asians (not American born) – Vietnamese particularly pleasurable, Africans and Indians.

    American girls leave university and it’s – find great job (check), find man (check) and the sterile life of consumerism and acquiring wealth and stuff begins. It’s tedious..

    I don’t buy this. There aren’t many guys in the world with that experience, specially counting that all those girls weren’t met in California, but accross the globe

    And surely those guys wouldn’t be spending time on game blogs

    Can you imagine Dan Bilzerian posting here?

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  76. on February 23, 2015 at 12:38 pm radagast

    Great post and good analysis CH. Exactly why I come to this site.

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  77. on February 23, 2015 at 1:15 pm The Cad

    Hey I know we don’t like to harp on this subject but fuck, look at these two greedy cunts.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-31589202

    Both been in top positions of political power in the UK for years, both YNWs and both ready to sell us out for cash to the highest bidder.

    You may remember jack straw arguing at the UN for the bogus iraq invasion, which the French rightly blocked. But hey, they went and did it anyway. Sending hundreds of brave young English Men to fight and die for the interests of is-real.

    They used to hang traitors, now they just give them a seat on the next Gravy train.

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  78. on February 23, 2015 at 1:29 pm Anondc

    I know the Euro – he’s from Spain. Looks like Jordan Knight, lives in DC and gets women everywhere he goes. He brings women to his American friends including me. His comment is nothing about getting one up on the US, military penis envy or what not. He just basically wonders what is wrong with American women and feels sympathy for the American male. Flirting is also interesting – in Hollywood movies American women are shown as being flirtatious – I have seen few real life instances of this. They do not know how to do it.
    Northern European females may be similar but not as crude in my experience, always pay their fair share on dates and do not play games as much.
    Happily most of my circle in DC are dating Polish girls.

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  79. on February 23, 2015 at 8:25 pm Xar

    Calories or culture – something has to burn.

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  80. on February 23, 2015 at 9:18 pm van gorilla

    What the writer posted is sad but true. I understand the desire to defend American women from some of you and seeing as many of you/us who are from smaller town USA – where the girls sometimes still maintain femininity and looks- its understandable. I can tell you upper middle classs white American women in cities like DC, Boston, Nyc, Miami, etc do pretty much suck. It starts at home with the SWPL crowd, who instead of sending theit daughter to ballet in pink dresses and pierced ears, send them off to Karate or baseball practice. Even scanning through the Facebook profiles of clients/coworkers in Latin America shows their daughters posing in feminine stances or cooking with mommy, already understanding the importance of both..in contrast the American female making a muscle with mommy or showing off her new baseball glove.

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