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Types Of Game

February 25, 2015 by CH

This post is 1/8th tongue-in-cheek, so don’t get yourselves too worked up into an inference lather. Disclaimer aside, there is a solid, observable foundation for the basic premise that there exists a need for categorical types of game streamlined for efficiency in different contexts and with different women.

Don’t misconstrue this to mean that there are no universal game principles. The point is that along with the universally applicable seduction techniques, there are refinements of execution that a man could undertake to improve his return-on-courtship (ROC). On that rascally note, here’s reader Putin with a cursory list of what he considers different types of game:

Types Of Game:

1. Quick Picker Upper Game
2. Text Game
3. Recover Relationship Game
4. Marriage Game.
5. Crazy Women Game? Is there such a thing or are they all crazy?
6. Dating/relationship game

Any others……

Why are there even “types” of game? The need for differing styles of game rests on three realities: One, the races and cultures of women are different from each other just as women as a sex are different from men. Two, women’s desire changes with age (and by monthly cycle). Three, environmental contingencies can subtly realign women’s mate choice priorities.

These realities suggest that game tailored to a woman’s specific needs which are informed by her racial, life stage, or contextual realities will be superior to a “one size fits all” game.

To recap: Game will vary according to three major input variables:

-Women’s race/culture. (Race and culture are nearly synonymous, notwithstanding leftoid beliefs to the contrary.)
-Women’s age and monthly cycle. (Evidence, both laboratory and real world, show that women crave alpha cock more when they are ovulating.)
-Women’s mating context. (Context includes relationship status, sex ratio, pickup venue, etc.)

I can already smell some of you sweating the small stuff. Pat yourselves dry, un-knot your laden brows, and put down your pickup manuals for a second. There’s a simple rule that governs the effective range of beneficial modifications to game:

Maxim #20: All types of game are basically variations in the balance of beta male and alpha male traits.

To visualize this maxim, imagine a line representing the spectrum of male psychosexual characteristics, running from extreme beta on one end to extreme alpha on the other.

ßeta<—————————————————————————>Alpha

Now, if one had to (or could) choose between the two poles, and nothing in the middle, it is BY FAR better to choose extreme alpha over extreme beta. The latter will get you laid more often, and for most men getting laid more rather than less is at least one of the primary ingredients in the recipe for life happiness.

But women are creatures with a dual personality — they crave both the provider beta and the piledriver alpha. Alpha fux, beta bux, as a wise man once said. A man will maximize his ROC if he knows how and when to balance the expression of his plush beta side with his dominant alpha side.

How much beta or alpha maleness to display in the presence of a woman in whom you want to incite spasmodic gushers of… love… depends in part on the confluence of those three input variables I mentioned above. What is her race/culture? What is her age? Is she a girl you just met on the sidewalk, or is she a girl you’ve been dating for six months?

Taking all that into account, plus a girl’s particular personality profile, will guide you to express the best mix of beta and alpha traits. Or, to put it in PUA parlance, you will find that important balance between comfort game and attraction game.

Returning to Putin’s “types of game”, it’s easy now to evaluate each type based on the metric of beta-alpha balancing. I have placed hatch marks along the beta-alpha spectrum to show you how much of each you should emphasize relative to the other.

1. Quick Picker Upper Game

ß<———————————-|–>A

You’re shooting for a quick lay. This means you’ll do best targeting horny girls with few scruples and low impulse control. 90% alpha.

2. Text Game

ß<—————————–|——->A

Text game is an impersonal medium that favors alpha over beta. Comfort stage game doesn’t translate very well to ASCII. (She’ll miss that strong eye gaze.)

3. Recover Relationship Game

ß<———————–|————->A

Insufficient data. A relationship could falter because the man became too domesticated or too emotionally disconnected. (NB: It can also falter when the woman becomes too chunky.) However, most relationships fail because the man lost touch with his inner alpha asshole. The hatch mark slightly favors the alpha side.

4. Marriage Game

ß<—————————|———>A

Marriage game is a specific instance of relationship game. Time and familiarity erode a man’s alphaness, so marriage game typically requires more infusions of alpha, although there are exceptions (like when a woman manages to rope a charming cad into marriage, and later discovers it’s hard to change a tiger’s stripes).

5. Crazy Women Game? Is there such a thing or are they all crazy?

ß<———-|—————|———->A

Thanks to their dual mate choice algorithm issues, all women are a little crazy, but only a tiny minority are bunny boiling crazy. I put two hatch marks here because the genuinely crazy chick is best played like a fiddle, alternating potent doses of beta and alpha until she feels like she’s on a seesaw. With crazy chicks, a good offense is the best defense. PS: Cut and run as soon as you’ve drained your balls (this could be a full year for those of us with robust testicular bounty).

6. Dating/relationship game

ß<——–|—————————->A

Assuming this type of game refers to that delicate moment in time between the passionate first few weeks together and the serene routine that distinguishes relationships that have reached the six month milestone, I’d say that more beta is the key here. You’ve already established your alpha fides, and now she’s wondering if you’re boyfriend material or just another pump and dumper about to break her heart. This is a good time, if you’re so inclined, to do those little beta things for her that relax her amygdala and dilate her labia minora.

In a future post, I will explore in greater detail the specifics of each type of game as they relate to common scenarios most men will experience at some point in their lives. This post was meant as a general outline to get your head in the right mental space.

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  1. on February 25, 2015 at 1:23 pm Types Of Game | Manosphere.com

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  3. on February 25, 2015 at 1:30 pm Arbiter

    This reminds me of a warning I read long ago in a pickup forum. Often the guy who has learned pickup will do well in the beginning, get the girl and then drop the ball. He thinks that now it’s time to reap the rewards. Worst of all is if he tells the girl what he did in order to get her – smiling, expecting her to compliment him for his clever tactics. (Actually, you can tell her some of this late in a relationship, but not in the beginning. “I actually knew you were going there.”)

    From the girl’s perspective it’s like witnessing a personality change: this guy who seemed suave and fun suddenly changes, and he thinks she will like his “honesty”. He thinks they are now “beyond all that stuff”.

    As a wise man said: down the line you will be tempted to think that game is over. It is never over.

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    • on February 25, 2015 at 3:23 pm FilthyMattress

      Great post.

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    • on February 25, 2015 at 3:50 pm Greg Eliot

      This…

      In general, fight the urge to let people know how clever you were in getting your way…

      … the best con is the one where the mark isn’t even sure he/she got conned.

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      • on February 26, 2015 at 12:29 pm no

        Always seem dumber than your mark. Women like to think that they out-smarted you and that they won you over.

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    • on February 25, 2015 at 7:02 pm redpillgirlnotes

      Indeed, I can vouch for this. I had a guy reveal he had been “gaming” me 6 months into our dating and how it was ok because it was to make the relationship better but at the time, blah blah blah someone Deangelo…stuff I did not understand at all…and it felt like the whole thing fell apart right there and never recovered. Having no clue what “game” was, I immediately thought he was some sort of player, liar, con, cad who was just working me despite his protests. We broke up. It was shortly after that I discovered the red pill, ironically, trying to figure out what in the heck he was talking about. In short: never explain, just do it, she doesn’t want to know, she won’t get it anyway. But it works, just don’t tell her! Women want to believe “it just happened…fate…stars aligning…”

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      • on February 25, 2015 at 7:17 pm Putin

        Women can’t help it that they are secretly guy crazy even though American culture tells them they should not be.

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      • on February 25, 2015 at 8:51 pm redpillgirlnotes

        I would agree, women are actually just as crazy about guys as guys are about women. No matter what culture says, facts are facts. It is hardwired. There may be elaborate dances around it, but it is still what it is. Perhaps the dance serves some purpose, perhaps it is wasted time and energy, but we are born into the world, culture, time, and the rules we are, only the few awake realize they have the option of questioning it, including knowing the dance is a bunch of smoke and mirrors but mastering it anyway.

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      • on February 26, 2015 at 1:31 am Heywood Jablome

        A stupid illusionist reveals his secrets to his audience.

        Women are childish and foolish creatures who want to be deceived. They cannot bear to see the man behind the curtain, so give them the giant talking green head. The Red Pill kills a woman’s attraction for the guy who feeds it to her.

        Don’t go to a woman for friendship or frank conversation unless she’s a relative or she’s someone for whom you will never ever ever have any sexual attraction. Seek deep friendships with other men; women are almost all incapable of true friendship.

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      • on February 26, 2015 at 2:43 am Philomathean

        Mr. Jablome,

        You are spot on.

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      • on February 26, 2015 at 6:20 am Will

        Why are you here?

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      • on February 26, 2015 at 10:00 am redpillgirlnotes

        @ Will good question, I am here because after that relationship ended I realized I didn’t understand how men think or what they were looking for in a relationship, so I decided to learn, found the manosphere, and have heard things here (not only this site but also at others) that I have never heard anyone say before, but they made total sense. There’s a lot to all this, and I think if people knew it (including women) we’d have fewer failed relationships/divorces, which would be a good thing.

        And I think CH spins a clever turn of phrase, I enjoy his writing. I have worked as a professional writer and editor for years and good writing is hard to find.

        Plus, it’s just fascinating, I think the manosphere is one of the few places where things worth discussion are being discussed. I predict in time these ideas will spread to the larger culture, but right now this is the bleeding edge, the fringe.

        That said, I hope my presence is not an intrusion and if it is, I will not comment here.

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      • on February 26, 2015 at 11:21 am Sentient

        @WIll said “Why are you here?”

        @redpillgirlnotes said “hamster hamster hamster”

        The reality is – alpha widow…

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      • on February 26, 2015 at 11:25 am redpillgirlnotes

        @ Sentinent actually I did answer but it is in moderation. And no, alpha widow is not the reason.

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      • on February 26, 2015 at 11:30 am redpillgirlnotes

        All I was trying to say was to agree that telling a girl about game is a mistake. And share an example of that. I did not come here to argue or to be called names. Peace.

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      • on February 26, 2015 at 12:32 pm no

        100 percent agree. The superficial knowledge of game is so prevalent now that it is better to seem less gamey and more natural. I am even opening women with compliments now. Why? Because they expect a neg of course. Only a few choice negs will I sparingly use of at all.

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      • on February 26, 2015 at 7:47 pm Putin

        “Why are you here?” You missed it…..

        “Women can’t help it that they are secretly guy crazy…”

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      • on February 26, 2015 at 8:40 pm redpillgirlnotes

        Oops Putin, in haste I read that “all women are crazy” not all women are GUY crazy! But either way… Likely right.

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      • on February 26, 2015 at 7:49 pm Putin

        “@ Will good question, I am here because after that relationship ended I realized I didn’t understand how men think or what they were looking for in a relationship, so I decided to learn, found the manosphere, and have heard things here (not only this site but also at others) that I have never heard anyone say before, but they made total sense. There’s a lot to all this, and I think if people knew it (including women) we’d have fewer failed relationships/divorces, which would be a good thing.

        And I think CH spins a clever turn of phrase, I enjoy his writing. I have worked as a professional writer and editor for years and good writing is hard to find.

        Plus, it’s just fascinating, I think the manosphere is one of the few places where things worth discussion are being discussed. I predict in time these ideas will spread to the larger culture, but right now this is the bleeding edge, the fringe.

        That said, I hope my presence is not an intrusion and if it is, I will not comment here.” = Women can’t help it that they are secretly guy crazy.

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      • on February 26, 2015 at 7:53 pm Putin

        “@ Sentinent actually I did answer but it is in moderation. And no, alpha widow is not the reason.”

        Way to go Sentient you ran her off with your shit game.

        redpillgirlnotes come back please! I promise we are not all like him! lol

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      • on February 26, 2015 at 8:33 pm redpillgirlnotes

        @ Putin should I stay or should I go? All women be cray cray? Some more than others but yes, all about every 28 days or so…

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      • on February 26, 2015 at 10:38 pm Putin

        “@ Putin should I stay or should I go? All women be cray cray? Some more than others but yes, all about every 28 days or so…”

        Just Stay! You can add some women perspective. At the very least I can bring purpose and meaning to your life.

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      • on February 27, 2015 at 5:53 am Sentient

        Oh Putin you are still one of those guys aren’t you? You must realize that there is absolutely no valuable perspective she can add to our conversation because it is all going to be filtered by a solipsitic view “of the moment” depending upon that hours chemical mixture in her brain or post hoc revisionist hamstering of misremembered events.

        And likewise whatever “wise counsel” you give her will be similarly disfigured to suit whatever her biology is dictating at some future moment.

        Remember war games?

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      • on February 27, 2015 at 2:08 pm redpillgirlnotes

        @ sentinent and putin,
        Now now boys! I know it may be hard to believe, but I truly do just find this stuff interesting.

        I used to follow and post mostly on a red pill site called just four guys, which has active commenters male and female and we would have fun breaking all this stuff down, but unfortunately that site has pretty much gone defunct, hopefully it will arise again, always great discussions there. Every now and then a gal would pop in and spew fembot “you guys just don’t get it/hate women/are small bitter losers” and then they would get chased off. So if the fear is I am going to do that, trust me I will not. I am in agreement with the red pill, and that feminism destroys has created a world that doesn’t work for men or women, and that maybe once it had good intentions but now has just gone around the bend. I was raised in that world, and just assumed as many women do that feminism was “pro female” only to discover it is not, and that it is steering women to their own doom. As CH says in the other post, I would agree many feminists are bitter man haters themselves, or jealous, or not datable and so they want all women to join them in their manless misery. No thanks. The red pill helped me get my head straight and now I am engaged to a wonderful man and understand how to treat him right because of what I have learned from the manosphere and we are very happy.

        Sentinent, I get the feeling no matter what I say you will not believe it is well intended, so how about this, you can just ignore my comments and we can agree to disagree? Friends?

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      • on February 27, 2015 at 9:15 am Putin

        “Oh Putin you are still one of those guys aren’t you? You must realize that there is absolutely no valuable perspective she can add to our conversation because it is all going to be filtered by a solipsitic view “of the moment” depending upon that hours chemical mixture in her brain or post hoc revisionist hamstering of misremembered events.
        And likewise whatever “wise counsel” you give her will be similarly disfigured to suit whatever her biology is dictating at some future moment.
        Remember war games?”

        Ooohhhh I think he really likes you redpillgirlnotes. lol

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      • on February 27, 2015 at 8:18 pm Sentient

        If you were truly red pill you would realize you are an empty vessel and ruled by your biology were emotions at the moment = truth. The fact that you take an innocuous observation and try and twist it into some kind of personal attack cum love triangle just proves how true to type you are cast here. Solipsism much?

        My caution is for the recovering beta guys, that they are not ensnared and deluded by anything you might write. Great red pill sites have been laid to waste by this kind of subversion.

        And it’s nothing to do with you. I love women. especially naked. It’s just the fact that a guy is not going to gain any insights from some lone hamster ramblings.

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      • on February 28, 2015 at 1:11 am redpillgirlnotes

        Ok sentient…. hamster, hamster, hamster…is that about right?

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      • on February 27, 2015 at 9:28 pm Putin

        LMAO. I just left the coffee shop in a town with a major college. I started reading your last post Sentient and bent over laughing with tears streaming from my eyes as most of the patrons(80% women) watched with amusement.

        Dude, I need to party with you. You are a classic.

        I don’t know if anyone has noticed but this whole thread has like 4 things going on at once. Sentient you are really worried about this women?

        Sorry redpillgirlnotes but most most guys are more interested in your body than what your opinion is. As Dr Laura says “guys are simple, just give them sex and a sandwhich and they are happy”. I know that is a bit archaic but afraid it is the truth.

        Sentient, I like you, not in an American fem/unisex/gay way though.

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      • on February 28, 2015 at 1:20 am redpillgirlnotes

        @ Putin yes, I have gathered that re sandwiches and such. Much easier to be a woman figuring out a man than the other way around. Agreed.

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    • on February 26, 2015 at 1:54 am walawala

      Never tell a girl you gamed her. However…you can explain to her what defines “Attraction” according to Ev Psych.

      I ask this all the time: “Do you know what creates attraction in females?”

      her: looks…

      Me: nope

      Her; is he strong???

      Me: not exactly

      Etc. Then you can say: 1) Leader of men 2) protector of women and children 3) pre-selected by other women.

      That last one always gets them curious. Then when you explain: “Other women want to fuck him..” always the girls I tell this too get mildly turned on. Then I explain it in “psychological” terms: in caveman times when other women had shorter lifespans and wanted to make sure they picked the best genes for procreation (ie fucking) then they would look for men who other women had already selected.

      Women get this…..this conversation is NOT an explanation of “game” but it is a great way to have a conversation about game to women without revealing what you’re doing.

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      • on February 26, 2015 at 2:53 am Philomathean

        I have a genuine curiosity about the dynamic between the lovely Kate and Minter’s relationship. I mean, for example, does Minter verbalize the threat of Dread Game when Kate’s nature get’s the better of her?

        I wouldn’t want a Game aware women, but if redpillism works for them, so be it.

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      • on February 26, 2015 at 8:38 am mendozatorres

        Women soak up that psycho babble like crazy. This is solid.

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      • on February 26, 2015 at 9:11 pm Benson

        If you explain what you’re doing without making yourself look bad, talking about game isn’t a deal breaker. I once watched my buddy explain asshole game to his girl.

        Him: *Some rude comment*

        Her: You know, you’re a real asshole

        Him: It’s true. But I act that way because you like it.

        Her: No I don’t. I wish you’d stop!

        Him: Baby, you do like it, it’s subconscious.

        I laughed so hard I cried. They dated for another six months after that night.

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    • on February 26, 2015 at 6:19 am Will

      What a great comment.

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  4. on February 25, 2015 at 1:48 pm mendozatorres

    A good outline to get started. As I read this, and as I’m learning about the stock market, I cannot help but see a parallel between the two. The obvious factor in that they are both markets and everyone’s trying to get the most of their investment; money in the stock market, time in relationships.

    One of the great tidbits I read about investing in stocks is to use financial analysis to find solid companies and use technical analysis (i.e. reading charts) for the right time to buy. For me, this outline serves as technical analysis.

    Good stuff.

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    • on February 25, 2015 at 2:09 pm Sean Fielding

      Time?

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    • on February 25, 2015 at 7:09 pm cash

      technical analysis is astrology for boys.

      actually, if you used astrology to time your trades, you’d probably beat every technical analyst out there.

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      • on February 25, 2015 at 8:31 pm Tilikum

        haHA! witty and quite true.the greater fool theory has prevailed…forever!

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  5. on February 25, 2015 at 1:59 pm Laguna Beach Fogey

    Beard Game has been working for me in recent months. It tends to work best on the hornier girls (with facial hair fetish?) as well as the more traditional ones attracted to the masculine look. Go figure.

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    • on February 25, 2015 at 2:38 pm mendozatorres

      I like Bard Game. Start quoting Shakespeare to tame the shrew.

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      • on February 25, 2015 at 3:47 pm Greg Eliot

        My favorite go-to lines when she starts sulking:

        “Woman! Unknit that threat’ning unkind brow. And dart not scornful glances from those eyes. To wound thy lord, thy king, thy governor.”

        Turns things around every time. 😉

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      • on February 25, 2015 at 4:19 pm ho

        The Bard must’ve been a player or at least charming enough to be one.

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      • on February 26, 2015 at 10:03 am Mischievous Cad

        ‘What a piece of work is a man!
        How noble in reason, how infinite in faculty!
        In form and moving how express and admirable!
        In action how like an Angel!
        In apprehension how like a god!
        The beauty of the world!
        The paragon of animals!

        ….Inner Bard game.

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      • on February 26, 2015 at 7:42 pm VRW

        Love that quote Greg Eliot

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  6. on February 25, 2015 at 2:18 pm Lurker

    Whilst I know that a balance is needed, I’m surprised by the extent to which Beta is favoured over Alpha in 6) dating / relationship game.

    I’d be interested to hear examples of advised beta moves in that context (from anyone), especially given that you referred to the “time between the passionate first few weeks together and… the six month milestone,” as I am at this point in time now.

    I guess when you work so hard to bring out your hitherto hatchling alpha, you lose that beta instinct you relied on so blindly in your blue pill days.

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    • on February 25, 2015 at 3:13 pm Deep Winter Chode

      I’d say this is the point where she’s wondering ‘Where is this relationship going?’ – and where you should start storyboarding the answer. Short term – plan a vacation and spring it on her as a surprise – say, a week in the Caribbean – Doesn’t matter if it works out long term, neither of you will forget that trip.

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    • on February 25, 2015 at 3:28 pm S.Plissken

      At 6 months start looking for a new gf.
      Gfs expire around 8 months.
      At this point they start becoming bitchy, starting stupid fights and start a downward spiral into frumpy-ness. In general they are just too comfortable with you.
      Unless you want to have kids with this girl it’s almost time to trade in for a new model.

      However, it could just be that MY game isn’t tight enough yet..

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      • on February 25, 2015 at 3:32 pm Lurker

        Maybe true. I’m contemplating basing my current strategy around a similar model, whereby I only stay with each girl until the honeymoon period is over, however long that may be in each case.

        But that doesn’t answer my question about advisable beta behaviour BETWEEN the early stages and the 6 month mark.

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      • on February 26, 2015 at 11:56 am Reco

        If you want your LTR to be long term you will need to provide a woman with tension in the relationship. And that tension can take many forms. If you do not provide her with that tension that she craves. Then she is going to create this tension. But it will be a negative tension. There are two reasons for this one to get the tension she needs and to force you to act. It will be unconcious but very real. She will start to do things that Plissken talks about. Being bitchy, pain in the ass, not wanting sex, gaining weight, not looking good, nagging wearing stupid pajamas everywhere. These of course are forms of shit tests and her looking for tension.

        Your positive tension will bring this back in alignment. That is the alpha side. You will be tempted to slack off too much and be too beta, go with the flow, not get Into a big argument about something, get lazy and not give her what she needs. This is a mistake and will kill the relationship and also kill her desire to fuck you. She will push against you and give you negative tension. And if you don’t alpha up and respond it will get really out of hand till she eventually finds that tension somewhere else. Via an affair or fucking other men just for a fling.

        Examples of positive tension in a LTR are tease her often, give her shit about stupid things she does, slap her on the ass when she is in the kitchen and do it in front of other people, fuck her rugged when she expecting the usual lazy sex. Make sure you are leading just like when you got her, tell her you are going on a trip and to pack her shit right now. Some of these things will piss her off. Just laugh or smirk and act like it is no big deal. Disappear for a day and don’t answer your phone. Keep spinning plates, even if you are not cheating keep those plates in the background. She will sense it. Don’t always come home at the same time. Spend time apart. Go on a vacation without her with your buddies, don’t ask her just plan it. Your the man lead. Come home from work and tell her to get naked and get in your bed and stick her ass up in the air and you will be there in a minute. If she starts nagging you leave the room. If she follows you leave the house and go to a bar and have a couple of drinks.

        You do these things and she will want to fuck you every day deep into the monotony of a long marriage. This will get her wet 100 times more than some stupid flowers on Vagina day.

        @red of course you like that idea of alpha and beta because you are a woman. Your brain is split in two. You need both.

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      • on February 27, 2015 at 5:44 pm theasdgamer

        +1 to Reco

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    • on February 25, 2015 at 3:28 pm Philomathean

      Just be yourself.

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      • on February 25, 2015 at 9:03 pm redpillgirlnotes

        Just be yourself…lol good one! If only it were that easy, right?

        Lurker I would tell you if I could…it is probably different in each case, the ideal beta/alpha balance, frustrating as that is. I will look forward to reading about that too, how to gauge that balance in the LTR situation. Seems most red pill sites advocate all alpha all the time (or beta outcast you will be) It intrigues me this possibility of a hybrid being the best of both worlds in one man. That sounds pretty darn nice, actually!

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      • on February 26, 2015 at 3:02 am Philomathean

        red,

        Once the paradigm shift is interiorized interactions with women become autonomic irrespective of context.

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    • on February 26, 2015 at 10:16 am Mischievous Cad

      Poon Commandment VII

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  7. on February 25, 2015 at 2:24 pm thunderlips

    recover relationship game…without dread or letting her come to you.. I’d be interested if there was such a thing.

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  8. on February 25, 2015 at 2:47 pm martin

    I came up with my own strategy for game, it is called industrialist game. You become an industrialist and through the ripples in space time that causes relative to your status’ mass, women begin to gravitate towards you ultimately reaching an equilibrium in orbit. So goes the theory, hasn’t been confirmed with experimental evidence.

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  9. on February 25, 2015 at 3:11 pm Reservoir Tip

    What it means to be an alpha can be summed up succinctly:

    An alpha, at his own will, has the ability to make a woman feel like a million bucks or a pile of dirt.

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    • on February 25, 2015 at 3:21 pm theasdgamer

      Great quote. Did both in one night. Rapture to waterworks.

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      • on February 25, 2015 at 8:06 pm driveallnight

        Heh. “From outrage to orgasm” is my name for that trick

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      • on February 26, 2015 at 11:21 am Greg Eliot

        “From outrage to orgasm”

        Wasn’t that the working title of that 50 Shades book?

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      • on February 26, 2015 at 6:18 pm driveallnight

        Thwack’s a big fan, maybe ask him? When he heard you could pre-order it from Amazon, he immediately booked a flight to South America.

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      • on February 27, 2015 at 4:26 pm Anonymous

        Severely droll… well-played.

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  10. on February 25, 2015 at 3:22 pm Philomathean

    What about influencing the behavior of the women in our lives who are not sexual items, e.g., mothers, sisters, aunts, ect.? My younger brother is getting steamrolled in a living situation he finds himself in with my aunt. I advised him to sack up and put in the work to change the dynamic of the relationship where it’s his will that is imposed rather than hers.

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    • on February 25, 2015 at 3:27 pm FilthyMattress

      Far less work to get your own place.

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      • on February 25, 2015 at 7:14 pm Philomathean

        Indeed.

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      • on February 26, 2015 at 12:59 pm Reco

        Exactly. If he wants to be a man, and be his own man. Get his own place. Even if he is young and cannot afford a nice place today at least it is his place. Small price to pay for your masculinity. I moved out when I was 18 I was almost penniless, but it was the best move I ever made.

        By the way never argue with a woman. It is like arguing with a pig you will both get dirty and only one of you gets anything out of it.

        A tip for dealing with women in your family daughters,sisters,mothers,aunts, and sometimes wives. When you get into that emotional shoving match with them you are playing right into their wheelhouse. Even if you win the argument you will get nothing from it. But they get plenty from it, they get that drama, that emotional rush, the negative tension that they need.

        I have a teenage daughter, and she is a good girl but like most her age a ball of emotions. When she gets amped up. The first thing I do is stop the chaos and carrying on. I immediately take her phone. Then let things go to silence and let things cool off. Then the next day when everyone is calm. I then sternly and calmly bring up her transgression. I usually do not even have to get my first sentence out before she is crying and apologizing to me and ready to make amends.

        Works every time. When you play into those emotions you are playing on her field. She is the master of this at 15 already. Play on your field calm rational reason. And it will improve your relationship with your female relatives.

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  11. on February 25, 2015 at 3:25 pm theasdgamer

    CH wrote: “all women are a little crazy”

    Most women are really crazy some of the time.

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    • on February 25, 2015 at 7:43 pm Southern Man

      “bunny boiling crazy” is the sort of phrase found only at The Château.

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      • on February 25, 2015 at 9:42 pm theasdgamer

        Reminds me of a time in my past when I was a serial killer…of cute, white bunny rabbits. I was working in an ophthalmology lab where laser research on rabbits was being done. Their eyes would be lasered and the rabbits would have to be sacrificed. One of the docs was Japanese and ate the rabbits after I butchered them.

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      • on February 25, 2015 at 10:19 pm The Spirit Within

        It’s from Fatal Attraction. In college, my friends and I used to call girls “bunny boilers” all the time.

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  12. on February 25, 2015 at 3:57 pm IMGrody

    I need naive high school girl in this list. My brain says go a little more beta than normal but my balls say to just plow forward with the alpha dickheadedness thats worked in the past.

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    • on February 25, 2015 at 8:40 pm Captain Obvious

      Naive 18-YEAR-OLD high school girl. We don’t need the F*B*I_k*i*d*d*i*e_p*o*r*n unit subpoenaing the real names behind our IP addresses.

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      • on February 25, 2015 at 9:52 pm Anonymous

        LOL

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      • on February 26, 2015 at 6:25 am Will

        Too late

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      • on February 26, 2015 at 4:57 pm IMGrody

        Its 16 in Montana. *Cues dueling banjos*

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  13. on February 25, 2015 at 4:30 pm u dramallama

    Don’t know if there’s already been posts on this or not, but lately I’ve been thinking a worthwhile CH post would be about which specific strategies work best for gaming women by their personality type (and which girls would be best to go after based on your own).

    I think this could be especially useful because I’ve noticed that I actually have an easier time talking to/chatting/building the attraction of extroverted women, rather than introverted ones. I kind of chalk this up to my own natural introversion, the idea being that conversations with extroverted chatterboxes require less effort, so I’m less taxed/tired out by having to do exert myself as much carry the conversation…might be a good yin/yang dynamic or something.

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    • on February 25, 2015 at 5:29 pm blart

      “I kind of chalk this up to my own natural introversion, the idea being that conversations with extroverted chatterboxes require less effort, so I’m less taxed/tired out by having to do exert myself as much carry the conversation…might be a good yin/yang dynamic or something.”

      i’m like this as well. very outgoing, extroverted girls can be exhausting sometimes but in general i usually prefer them. i don’t have to work on keeping the conversation going or keeping them entertained. i get to relax a bit because they do enough of that for the both of us. kind of nice.

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      • on February 25, 2015 at 11:24 pm Benson

        Interesting. I prefer introverted girls because they usually live a lifestyle that I can tolerate: they have a small circle of close friends and prefer quieter, more intimate environments. They’re usually better conversationalists, too, because small talk bores them.

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  14. on February 25, 2015 at 5:11 pm Putin

    So to carry on regarding my original post about giving off a creep vibe. This does not happen all the time but when it does it is always with 7’s and under. Never happens with 8+. In fact I usually get good responses from 8+. The reason I bring this up is because it is uncomfortable for me when a women starts acting like she needs to cover her butt and breasts.

    Funny, because when I was going out with my wife her best friends boy friend told her that she should be careful because he thought I was bad/pervert/etc. Well that just made her like me more lol. So maybe that is just the vibe I put out and because of movies like “Frozen” it makes these non attractive women nervous. But why not the attractive ones? When I go into the bar at Mi Cocina’s or on an elevator at work with an attractive women I get very positive/aggressive responses.

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    • on February 25, 2015 at 8:43 pm Captain Obvious

      We’ve talked a ton at the Chateau about what a bunch of nutjob witches the HB6s can be. Thousands of posts about it. As you get out towards HB8, the personalities [on average] seem to improve dramatically.

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    • on February 25, 2015 at 10:09 pm Deep Winter Chode

      As I’m sure you know, most communication is nonverbal – so your ‘vibe’ can be attributed to your body language or vocal tonality. And – As you didn’t speak to the ass-crack-cover-girl it’s likely the cause of her discomfort was something about your body language.

      Because both men and women are picking up on this and reading it as ‘creepy’ – I’m going to speculate that you have a roving eye – and that while taking in women with your eyes – there’s something in your bearing that’s either too oblique or too open. You’re not perceived as being in control of your impulses.

      The difference in reaction between not-so and very attractive women – is in how each deals with ‘admiring’ gazes. A not-so attractive woman becomes uncomfortable and squirms under the weight of one. Whereas, the attractive woman while often more self-assured – rarely meets a gaze that doesn’t dart off or drop to the floor. A heavy gaze is read as a sign of equal self-assurance and this validates her. So, if what you say is true – I’d say it’s likely your body language is too open.

      Practice disinterested body-language. Speak over your shoulder, check your watch often, keep your feet pointed away from women – and see if you can’t calibrate your body language. It’s a major tenant of game – to make her earn your attention and chase you – by using body language in push/pull gambits – so best get tuned in to the vibe your giving off.

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      • on February 26, 2015 at 1:12 pm Reco

        @ DWC. Awesome post. Exactly what I need to work on. Keep that strong initial eye contact with the hotties. And control body language during the interaction.

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      • on February 27, 2015 at 9:00 am Putin

        Deep Winter- Appreciate the serious post. Some good stuff to consider for sure.

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      • on February 27, 2015 at 9:44 pm Putin

        Deep Winter, alright I have another question regarding this issue. Why do guys, expecially if they are paired up give me dirty looks. Seriuously, it happened again tonight. I am in line at the coffee shop and a couple of early 20’s heterosexual guys are in front of me. One turns to scan the line and starts staring at me in a incredulous way. Then whispers to friend who turns and looks at me. I get this all the time. Bitter stares. WTH?

        By the way you could not be real young given what you are able to discern?

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  15. on February 25, 2015 at 5:32 pm MB

    You really can’t be too alpha in a marriage. In this day and age its the only thing that keeps her aiming to please. To give an example : Today the wifey and I were getting ready to go out together. Just as we are getting ready to leave she starts acting bitchy and whiney. So I just look at her, say nothing get in the truck and take off. Later she texts ” Our marriage is in trouble” – I laugh to myself . Let her stew in her juices for a few then respond ” Ill give Dr Phil a ring” . She responds with some other stupid shit that I just ignore. Later I get home – whines a tiny bit more – I ignore her. Then she knuckles under – becomes pleasant to be around and makes me a great dinner.. Alpha works – all the time. You woman’s moods are her moods – they’re not yours and there is no point letting it affect your frame.

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    • on February 25, 2015 at 6:37 pm Putin

      LOL, yes that was hard core not even a warning shot.

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      • on February 25, 2015 at 9:52 pm theasdgamer

        Hard core is when I go out dancing solo 5 nights a week, including weekend nights. Medium Dread. Been doing it almost a year.

        Tonight I told Mrs. Gamer that I had been dancing too much with one particular woman whom I’m currently avoiding. More Dread. Serves her right for prying.

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    • on February 26, 2015 at 1:10 pm Reco

      Excellent. Works every time. Check the scene from “Goodfellas” when Henry Hill comes home late after being out all night. The women start bitching. He just laughs turns around and leaves. Classic.

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  16. on February 25, 2015 at 5:41 pm MB

    o

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  17. on February 25, 2015 at 6:11 pm Types Of Game | Reaction Times

    […] Source: Heartiste […]

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  18. on February 25, 2015 at 6:20 pm Robyd82

    @ Chateau, what about gaming high white hispanics? They seem to identify with spics a bit, but their id is still white, right? This seems to be the biggest race / culture split.

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  19. on February 25, 2015 at 6:26 pm Putin

    More Churchian game from James Dobson-

    The first night that I applied the new formula was one of the most thrilling
    experiences of my life. The girl who is now my wife saw me starting to slip
    away on that evening, and she reacted with alarm. We were riding in silence
    in my car, and
    Shirley asked me to pull over to the curb and stop. When I
    did she put her arms around my neck and said, “I’m afraid I’m losing you
    and I don’t know why. Do you still love me?” I noticed by the reflected light
    of the moon that she had tears in her eyes. Sh
    e obviously didn’t hear my
    thumping heart as I made a little speech about my solitary journey in life.
    You see, I had reestablished the challenge for Shirley, and she responded
    beautifully.
    The psychological force which produced our see-saw relationship is an
    important one, since it is almost universal in human nature. Forgive the
    redundancy, but I must restate the principle:
    We crave that which we can’t
    attain, but we disrespect that which we can’t escape.

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  20. on February 25, 2015 at 7:33 pm MB

    The travesty is that Focus On The Feminine err..Family’s solution to all your problems in a marriage relationship is for the guy to double down on the niceness. In short become even more of a sad pathetic sack of shit whose filled with hope that all this extra dose of niceness will miraculously clear the cobwebs from between her legs and turn the ole shrew into a sweet smiling doting ray of sunshine. How futile, how sad ,how pathetic.
    My advice to these Christian guys that are living with a hardened harpy – if you want to make her change – pull some hard game. It does wonders at turning the ship around

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    • on February 26, 2015 at 1:20 pm Reco

      Absolutely she needs that tension. She is begging for it. Gaming your wife is the only way. It is amazing how fundamentally true this is and how almost impossible to find this information would be in today’s society.

      It is no wonder that the divorce rate in the US is only 50% with the majority of husbands not at all aware of this vital ingredient. Took me 20 years to get it.

      Actually if you include all the people who are married but not happy, or marriages that have had an affair. The marriage failure rate in the US would push 90%.

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  21. on February 25, 2015 at 7:44 pm bear

    Foucs on the Feminine err.. Family. Yeah I would love to see him and his minions preach this on their show. No their solution to marital problems is for the guy to double down on the niceness. Yeah that will really work . Turn the guy into even more of an AFC albeit with 3X the niceness. Meanwhile the cobwebs never get cleared from between her legs and she becomes even more of a shrieking shrew.
    My advice to any Christian guy who has to deal with a hardened harpy – pull serious game. If she won’t follow scripture, its the only way to turn the ship around

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  22. on February 25, 2015 at 10:09 pm SC

    I’m going to have to side with the leftists on one thing: race is not always synonymous with culture and behavior. I have interacted with enough interracially adopted people to know and see this. I have also interacted with enough people who have spent their whole lives living with different race people to see this too. In my experience, when I deal with people who have lived their whole lives with another race (neighbors, friends, teachers, classmates, colleagues) they tend to act like the race that they live with instead of their own race. This happens even if they had no control over their living situation.

    I live in a majority White area, and of the few Coloured children at the local schools, a substantial percentage of them were adopted by White families. They have very White mannerisms (this is a good thing) even if they don’t have three digit IQs.

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    • on February 25, 2015 at 11:22 pm Fugue

      CH I think you are confused about race and culture being synonymous. It hints at a certain clannish exclusivity that can be interpreted as misguided if not small-minded. It creates broad generalizations and stereotypes that a person considered naive or uneducated would propose. SC hit it on the head minus his arrogant assumption that the “colored” kids have double digit IQ’s. But for educational purposes: “Race” is a classification of people according to their physical appearances, geographic ancestry, and heritable characteristics. “Culture” is a classification of people according to their beliefs and values that include spirituality, religion, region, language, and livelihoods.

      Those definitions make the world a bit more complex and a lot less simple than one might assume or pontificate.

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    • on February 26, 2015 at 1:22 am Fugue

      “They have very White mannerisms (this is a good thing) even if they don’t have three digit IQs”

      Do you mean they as in they as in a group of individuals? Or they as in a race? As an African-American with a 3 digit IQ I find this statement grossly offensive. The reason why is because if you saw me walking down the street you would assume I have a 2 digit IQ based on my race what that might represent or convey. Not only would that be an error in judgement but a projection that is totally inaccurate in reality, really your reality, when in my reality, objective reality, is on the contrary.

      To assume that because they are “colored” as you have shamelessly put they must have 2 digit IQ’s, shows more of a bold claim than proper reasoning. Is that your opinion or is it a fact? Do you know the said children’s IQ? Do you believe you can tell someone’s IQ just by looking at them? Do you believe race, sex, sexual orientation, religion, ethnicity, height, eye color, hair color, education, penis size, breast size, etc can influence or determine intelligence? Do you say things about people to make them look bad? Do believe that statistics are more factual than personal or real world experience or observation? Do you consider your statement subjective or objective and why? Do you consider yourself an intellectually honest person? Do you consider yourself intelligent and if so why? Have you taken the WAIS-IV IQ test? And if so what did you score?

      Just trying to understand your thought process and the foundation of your thinking to better understand you as a person even though I don’t know you and will never meet you. This is purely an intellectual discipline. As an African-American I am sincerely interested. If you do not answer or respond I will not be offended.

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      • on February 26, 2015 at 1:38 pm Silliness

        Hah! You are going to get a lot of this on here. lol

        There was some commenters on a post a few weeks back that claimed that Blacks had an average IQ of 70 and below. Can you believe that?

        When I pointed out to him that what he was saying is a 70 IQ mentally retarded and made no sense. Cant remember the dudes handle. But he held his opinion and said that most of them cannot read when they are in college. lol

        I shit you not. When I challenged him on this. He then told me it had been proven in Chales Murrays book “The Bell Curve”. Which of course you could tell he had not read it. Since it never said that.

        I tried to explain to him that just because a bunch of crack pot liberals freaked out about his book and called him racist did not make their claims correct. Its a wild ride in here.lol

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    • on February 26, 2015 at 8:18 am martin

      I agree. I don’t like the term white because white people can be so different from each other, and I have no problem with that, people weren’t meant to live under a mono culture. Even among non whites, across Africa there are subtleties just to pick out one example. But even so, across Europe things are different, and that is fine.

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    • on February 26, 2015 at 11:02 am Greg Eliot

      It’s been my experience that, without fail, my so-called “white acting” friends of colour only remain so when not among a group of their own kind.

      When amongst their racial kin, they quickly revert to that mean… which ever serves to create puzzlement and disappointment… and the eventual “awakening” epiphany… to us well-intentioned young white liberals.

      It’s the old Lone Ranger joke… “whaddya mean ‘we’, paleface?”

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      • on February 26, 2015 at 6:22 pm Fugue

        I think your “white acting” friends struggle from insecurity and identity issues. There is a lot of pressure as an african-american to conform to cultural and predicable conventions if not you are out cast and deemed an uncle tom, oreo, sell out. I am being cynical here but mostly the criticism come from those who lack education and/or naive. Some people just don’t understand human psychology, socialization and/or assimilation. The only way to deal with it is to build self esteem, a strong authentic identity, and accept criticism and befriend those who accept you for you and have similar natures. A person just needs to have integrity really.

        The same can be said about whites. I have white friends here in Texas who tell me about the racist things whites say about blacks behind closed doors. Whites who consider themselves moral and good. So in fairness one could say when whites get around other whites they lose the “friendly square white guy” persona and go full John Derbyshire and Jared Taylor behind closed doors. There are whites who call other whites who befriend or date blacks n*gger lovers and coal burners but go to church on Sunday and convince everyone they are good people who don’t hate anyone and loves and accepts everybody no matter what.

        I don’t think you are that naive to believe that people are who they are in society and take everything for face value. I think as long and people treat each other with respect and kindness there is no problem. What people say or do in private I can’t hold against them. There was a time when I would say racist things about whites behind closed doors and then go smile in my white friends face. I have since out grown and matured from that behavior. That was my own personal choice but then again I am not perfect but I treat everyone regardless of race or whatever with dignity and respect until proven other wise.

        Like my friend Michael Corleone said “We are all part of the same hypocrisy”

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      • on February 27, 2015 at 8:34 am SC

        but here’s the thing: where I live, many of the Coloured kids never or almost never get a chance to be amongst people of the same race as them. this is especially true for the Coloured kids who were adopted by White families. also, when I say ‘Coloured’ I don’t just mean Black; most of the Coloured adoptees are in fact Korean or Chinese (although a couple are indeed Black). Even if those Korean/Chinese adoptees eventually meet others of the same colour as them they don’t chimp out or anything.

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      • on February 27, 2015 at 9:37 am James Blonde

        Greg Eliot
        It’s been my experience that, without fail, my so-called “white acting” friends of colour only remain so when not among a group of their own kind.
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        Don’t feel bad Greg, white people do the same thing when they are around racists. This blog is a great example of the phenomenon. All white people looked the other way and said nothing when thwack was assassinated.

        “I vaas only following ordaahs”

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      • on February 27, 2015 at 4:30 pm Greg Eliot

        Bullshit… if white people did the same thing to the same extent, there would be no such thing as SWPL and SJW.

        Not forgetting the term “polite company”, where any breach of etiquette in word or expression is immediately and severely corrected with but a look, and if the hint isn’t taken, outright shunning.

        Whites police their own… something you darkies will never “get”.

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  23. on February 25, 2015 at 10:39 pm Rum

    There is game that gets yur dik wet and there is game that does not. At least tonight.
    Here are my suggestions for the taxonomy of “Game”. 1. The Mad rush and/ versus 2. Give the flower enough time to spread herself fully open.

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  24. on February 25, 2015 at 11:22 pm The Seeker of Truth

    In marriage game I go complete prick/asshole at least 95% of the time.
    I insult, scream and demand results when it comes to housework. She is a shitty housekeeper, but is always willing to spread her legs.
    If given the chance to know her better before marriage I would not have married her.
    Sometimes I think I actually hate her. Most times I completely do not care howor what she thinks of me.
    That said, i coconstantly look up porn and backpage bitches on my phone so that she can find it. ( I have no privacy, or so she thinks). She rages about betrayal and shit then throws that thing on me. When done I mostly go back to reading whatever’s on deck. She’ll ask, “Well?” I usually reply, “Well what?” She’ll usually have some response like, “Fuck you dick!” I’ll respond, ” You just did.”
    Boils her blood every time.
    Listen young men who value vows. Choose wisely. If I had known game in the beginning I’d have not chosen her. Now five kids later I’m stuck by my own honor. If you are in a similar position you can only hope to make the best of it. Game on!

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    • on February 26, 2015 at 10:48 am theasdgamer

      I hear ya. Check out my post about Relationship Game. You just need to train her to do housework like you’d train a dog.

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      • on February 26, 2015 at 11:02 am blart

        “You just need to train her to do housework like you’d train a dog.”

        this is true and he doesn’t have much choice if he’s planning to stick it out with her. but he also has a valid point about choosing wisely. we all need to remind ourselves of this from time to time. some girls are just more work than others. that’s a fact.

        and although trying to tame them in the beginning might seem like an exciting challenge, living with a difficult woman long term will exhaust you and wear you down. there are girls out there who don’t require as much “training”. not many of them but they do exist. worth their weight in gold when you find them.

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      • on February 26, 2015 at 11:19 am Greg Eliot

        You just need to train her to do housework like you’d train a dog.

        Eh… dog training techniques rarely, if ever, work on cats.

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  25. on February 25, 2015 at 11:33 pm walawala

    I think there are some combinations: the Crazy Girl/Dating Game….

    This is where you need to really take an objective view on what you ‘re doing and what you’re getting out of the interaction.

    In the case of two girls I’m currently banging whom ive written about before, they tend to get angry for no real reason, but usually its something related to jealousy. When I’m with them I game them: tease, comfort, etc. But what’s critical is how you spend your time apart.

    I text regularly….sometimes to say hi, sometimes to banter, sometimes to hear them out on some issue.

    The key now is not to get too sucked into their daily dramas. I chat, tease but try to avoid more detailed text chats…thought sometimes I end up doing that.

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    • on February 26, 2015 at 9:04 am thunderlips

      yo wala, what’s your email

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  26. on February 26, 2015 at 1:51 am Sonny

    “….relax her amygdala and dilate her labia minora”.
    Finally the hours I spent reading Grey’s Anatomy as a teenager are paying off.

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    • on February 26, 2015 at 10:50 am theasdgamer

      You need to read up on watches next. History, mechanisms, designers, etc. So that you can actually make a watch and talk about it next time someone asks you what time it is.

      Sperg Game.

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  27. on February 26, 2015 at 4:00 am Alex

    On a side note here is a nuanced approach to the Charlie Hedbo affair. http://gyaltenoneverthing.blogspot.com/2015/02/a-seculartake-on-charlie-hedbo-most.html

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    • on February 26, 2015 at 12:51 pm KP

      If by “nuanced” you mean “insane”, then yeah it’s a nuanced approach.

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  28. on February 26, 2015 at 5:06 am pupton1974

    Office/co-worker game. Requires stealth, cunning, and patience…love to see CH analysis of this one, which I do believe deserves it’s own category as well.

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    • on February 26, 2015 at 6:25 am Anonymous

      Girls love the workplace romance and its attendant HRballbuster taboo subversion. Doubleplus good if one or both of the participants is married and CIA spook-level slyness and mind games are required. That said, workplace game and banging is not for the feint of heart and you have to be good at extraction, (i.e.playing the long con).

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    • on February 26, 2015 at 6:50 am Loyalist

      I don’t recommend this in a small office, but vast bureaucracies in bigger cities are great for this. You have armies of young single professional women, with young recruits (interns) constantly replenishing the ranks, and backed up by reservists of married women. Meanwhile, you probably have no work to do all day, have a good salary with which to buy nice clothes and gym membership, and a cubicle which you can use as your base of operations. Now, it must be stressed, these are career women so pump and dump rules are in effect. Just keep it outside your own work unit, i.e., you don’t report to the same manager and don’t see each other every day. This is handy for when you dump them, which you will.

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    • on February 26, 2015 at 8:40 am mendozatorres

      That’s a risky endeavor all around. And should it end negatively, it will only favor the girl. I’ve had interests in some ladies here at work but the old adage of “don’t shit where you eat” keeps me at bay. Not to say it still doesn’t cross my mind.

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  29. on February 26, 2015 at 7:34 am walawala

    Batshit crazy game:

    Ok…I just got the most bizarre angry text ever. It came out of the blue from a girl I’ve been banging regularly. We just met up Monday. She texted earlier to see if I was free to go to some art show in March. I was. I bantered back and forth with her about art and sent her some goofy cat photos saying this was the art I liked. She sent some. Then I sent a photo of some meat pies I’d taken.

    Then this:

    Her: looks spicy

    Me: My Peruvian friend made them.

    Her; A woman?

    Me: Hahaha you know any male bakers?

    Her: nice. u have woman bakes for you. glad to know. thanks for telling me that. what else I need to know. she baked in ur house? Hot fuck after that lol

    Huh? The Peruvian woman is fat, married with a rug rat kid. But I agreed and amplified:

    Me: yeah, we rolled each other and flour and rubbed raw meat on each other

    Her; Fuck off

    her: 😦

    Her: ur not the person I though you were nor the fucking batman or james bone . ur just a fucking selfish, filthy elderly liar n pathetic sex addict. go check the doctor n do some good for humanity in the limited and short time of your life. Thank you.

    Wtf? I didn’t reply. This was the kind of fucked up nonsense I’ve been avoiding for some time. Great bang though…but nuts.

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    • on February 26, 2015 at 10:43 am theasdgamer

      She hit you with a loyalty test. Major sign of insecurity, just like the rest of her convo. She needs lots of comfort. Can be salvaged. Likely wants to really bond. If she’s sweet and makes sammiches….

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      • on February 26, 2015 at 10:56 am theasdgamer

        Now don’t go and splain about the baker woman. Just invite her over for a naked no-sex cuddling night. Tell her you want her to cook your favorite dish and give you a backrub. That will feel like comfort to her.

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      • on February 26, 2015 at 5:14 pm walawala

        @adsgamer yes. I haven’t replied because I’ll wait for her to reach out. Plus that reply from her to an imaginary hot Latina baker was over the top.

        Not sure how it went from a photo of meat pies to “You dirty old man”… and James bone–lol.

        But I think holding off a while before replying would work. This is way over the top insecurity that comes out of nowhere. One second we’re talking about going to an art show…next minute this nonsense.

        Yes, I could have come up with a ton of smarm responses—spinning off the James Bone misspelling…but I think it would have been playing into her hands with that. No reply is best.

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    • on February 26, 2015 at 10:48 am Thoroughbred

      Great dread… Great agree & amplify… And great going dark. I’ve still got a lot to learn, but man this kind of back and forth is really helpful. Do tell us if/when she comes back with tail between her legs.

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    • on February 26, 2015 at 11:06 am Sentient

      “ur just a fucking selfish, filthy elderly liar n pathetic sex addict.

      God level in sight…

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      • on February 26, 2015 at 8:56 pm theasdgamer

        Naw, she’s into him for sure, but he needs to calibrate her comfort accurately.

        I get this 5h1t from Mrs. Gamer alla time, usually after a night out dancing solo. Been doing that for a year now and she lurves me.

        Usually Mrs. Gamer says I’m old, bald, and unattractive…right before she grabs my package. Then quizzes me about some broad. (I try to keep discussions like this out of the kitchen, what with the knives lying about. Crazy women and knives aren’t a good combo to be around.)

        I take Mrs. Gamer out dancing sometimes and she lurves it.

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    • on February 26, 2015 at 11:15 am Greg Eliot

      Her: ur not the person I though you were nor the fucking batman or james bone . ur just a fucking selfish, filthy elderly liar n pathetic sex addict.

      Bone’s the name… James Bone… and watch that ‘elderly‘ stuff.

      (((gotta love it)))

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    • on February 26, 2015 at 11:44 am lazy guy

      Shit, did one of her “friends” pick up her phone and text you deceptively while your girl was in the bathroom??
      Some individuals’ degree of insecurity can be truly astonishing.
      The self-assured individuals appear to be the rare exceptions.

      “James Bone” — ha ha, I like that.

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    • on February 26, 2015 at 12:12 pm having a bad day

      @wala

      “Her: ur not the person I though you were nor the fucking batman or james bone . ur just a fucking selfish, filthy elderly liar n pathetic sex addict. go check the doctor n do some good for humanity in the limited and short time of your life. Thank you.”

      that’s some good emotional response there, that is…lol…and she even thanks you for it, too…lol…keep up the good work…

      you: your welcome

      can you point to the spot in the text where you should have known she was looking for a ‘fight’?…that same spot is where a beta would take the bait…

      good luck!

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      • on February 26, 2015 at 12:35 pm theasdgamer

        HABD:

        “Her: ur not the person I though you were”

        Mrs. Gamer hits me with this kind of stuff alla time. “Ur not the man I married.”

        Field Report Update: I ended up nexting the married broad I was dancing with and bonded with. Only would dance one dance with her one night. She left early. A week later she asked me to dance five times and I never asked her. She changed venues. I saw her at one lesson within a week and she said that she missed dancing at “our” venue. I quit the lesson and changed all my venues. I needed a change of pace and space from her. I turned the lemons from my experience with this broad into lemonade for my book. 🙂

        Wouldn’t you know it, another married broad who goes out solo has invited herself to one of my new venues. I opened my big mouth about my plans this weekend when she was fishing. Time for a chat with her.

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      • on February 26, 2015 at 12:52 pm having a bad day

        @theasdgamer

        “Mrs. Gamer hits me with this kind of stuff alla time. “Ur not the man I married.””

        ya, that’s just a garden variety beta baiting shit test…i’d be surprised if it didn’t exist in every girl’s rolodex…i think it’s standard issue…lol…

        you: yep, i’m sexier in every way possible…[smirk]

        good job on figuring out ‘distancing’…the other option (as you know) is to just ‘release’ the chemical cocktail the natural way…lol…

        wrt the married girls…ya, there is a lot of ‘unsatisfaction’ out there…and the current legal climate provides them with LOTS of latitude on chasing their tingles…but, you have to expect that…at some point, ‘alpha’ = alpha…lol…

        good luck!

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      • on February 26, 2015 at 5:17 pm walawala

        @habd the line: “a woman?” I knew it was beta bait….That’s why I replied with : Hahaha you know any guys who bake?

        Now…for those reading my story…I was getting this same nonsense from my crazy ex gf….and replying with walls of text.

        In this above case….I haven’t replied. I smarmy response like “Thank you” or “James bone…shaken not stirred” would have been too easy.

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      • on February 26, 2015 at 9:58 pm having a bad day

        @wala

        ya, “a woman?”…

        that’s where her roller coaster ride started…lol…(she must be in her ‘asshole’ part of her cycle…lol) then she gets to the top right before the big drop at …’Hot fuck after that, lol’… and she’s just waiting for the bottom to drop out (her hamster = “come on, alpha dude, don’t take the bait…pleeeease…”)…and…you don’t disappoint her!…yeah! she’s in free fall!…agree and amplify FTW!…lol…

        everything after that…from ‘fuck off’ until her ‘Thank you.’ (capitalized no less…lol) is her getting a massive emotional rush…it might seem crazy or over the top to you, but it’s not…it’s just part of her limbic system celebrating having found an alpha stud…lol…

        just think how cool it would be if you LOVED roller coasters, but never could find one to ride, and then they just happened to build one right next door…lol…wouldn’t you take advantage of that opportunity?…same with girls…only theirs is wired in at the chemical level…where else are they going to get a ride like that? seriously…beta bob in accounting?…lol… who doesn’t want to upset her…just like all the other guys she meets…bc she’s hot?…lol…

        that’s why YaReally calls them silly girls…bc they do shit like that…lol…and they can bc you are the oak her little squirrel runs around…lol…

        note – if you read btwn the lines, you can see her hamster talking directly to you – ‘lol’ = i know this is going to be good!…’Thank you.’ = thanks for the ride, you didn’t disappoint me…

        if you haven’t answered yet, just treat it like a flake…stay dark until you want to meet up, then just ping her with a time and place…don’t mention the roller coaster…lol…or just do the ‘lol’ and go dark for a couple weeks…

        good luck!

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      • on February 27, 2015 at 2:09 am walawala

        @HABD I didn’t respond at all to this. I thought it over. It would be odd because last time she did this, I replied with “…” and a week later she reconnected like it was all normal.

        the “lol” and the “Thank you” were odd things but like you said, perhaps they are subconscious. I read them as sarcastic and snide.

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      • on February 27, 2015 at 5:45 am Sentient

        Great as per usual HABD – for the young dudes… this is totally spot on. Spent almost 2 decades fighting against my asshole nature under Churchian delusions of “happy wife happy life” with scenes just like this one here regularly.

        Now I know when Mrs pulls shit like this, and I laugh in her face or ignore her or give her “you done” or “tone”… yep she will be cuddling up for a fuck real soon. Without a word mentioned from me. Usually she will say she is sorry before hand…

        Cats are not dogs.

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      • on February 27, 2015 at 6:22 am theasdgamer

        HABD: she must be in her ‘asshole’ part of her cycle

        “a woman?” Massive Dread is operating here. She’s looking for competition under every rock.

        Mrs. Gamer gives me the same loyalty tests (last night after our bang it was “this just confirms my suspicions”…lol) and she doesn’t do cycles any more. This isn’t related to menstruation. It’s just insecurity. You younger guys haven’t seen this yet.

        This is instance # 6 in CH’s list above–Dating/Relationship Game.

        wala: You need to provide a little more comfort, not more Dread from going dark. Specifically, you need to provide “in person” comfort where the two of you do something that doesn’t involve a date, like her cooking a meal for you at your place. She wants to feel connected to you. You don’t want to commit, for sure, but let her know that she can connect to you.

        Her frame in her rant shows that she’s not submitted to you–it’s very judgmental. If she were submitted, she would be saying stuff like “Why do you do this to me?”

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      • on February 27, 2015 at 6:36 am theasdgamer

        wala: What will happen if you go dark? You will amp up her crazy. This might cause her to submit, but likely not. If you want to get her to be more submissive, you could call out her judgmentalism…”judgmentalism is so boring and ugly…what might have been a sweeter way to express your feelings?”…after a few days have passed for her to cool down a bit. This will show a cool head on your part and total relationship dominance.

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      • on February 27, 2015 at 7:37 am having a bad day

        @theasdgamer

        got one stuck in mod from yesterday…

        @wala

        “I replied with “…” and a week later she reconnected like it was all normal.”

        that’s bc it is/was…that’s how hot girls work…lol…

        @theasdgamer brings up a good point on comfort. have you been telling/letting girls do stuff for you? cook, clean your place, shop for you, etc?… girls really do love doing that kind of stuff for ‘their’ man…even (especially) if he doesn’t cave to a monogamous ltr…that’s just more opportunity for her to ‘compete’…note – it takes more frame control to stay out of the closed ltr…but it brings more ‘intimacy’ with the girls…

        so, roller coaster girl got hot under the collar bc you ‘let’ some other girl bake for you…if you haven’t ‘let’ her do something like that for you, you ‘2nd placed’ her…girls hate that…lol…you can tell her that you will let her cook for you, but she has to plan the meal, shop and cook it at your place…set it up as competition with the meat pies…lol…

        also, ‘sarcastic and snide’ = so what?…lol…just part of the emotional roller coaster…don’t take it personally…lol…actually, that might be the best lesson out of this situ…remember, watch what girls DO, not what they SAY…if you are doing it right, they are just bundles of emotional chaos wrapped around a wet pussy…lol…

        good luck!

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      • on February 27, 2015 at 10:54 am walawala

        @HABD I didn’t let some woman bake for me…I bought the pies from a woman who bakes. 27 year old went batshit crazy just in her own imagination.

        Now…on to second one. The 26 year old I gamed a few months back, classic number close etc…haven’t banged her. She won’t bang me. She comes over, cooks for me, cuddles with me on the couch….won’t kiss me until “I know you better”. We’ve gone out 4-5 times. Each time the date is at my home and involves cooking or doing something at my home—but NOT fucking.

        So this got boring for me. So I ignored her. Then I went out to a club, she was there, had a dance with her…that was it. Ignored her the entire night. Was chatting with other girls, hanging out, had a drink.

        I leave, say “Bye”. Ten minutes later I get this text:

        Her: you ok?

        Me: ?

        Her: you didn’t smile much

        Me: Dancing is serious business

        Her: hope you’re fine

        Her: glad you’re fine

        Her: 🙂

        Spot the dread game here. Girl gets TONS of my exclusive attention…gives nothing back—well, she cooks but so did my mom.

        Some of you guys were asking about how this all works…It works when you make it seem you’re there but not paying attention but she’s expecting it.

        Third…girl I’m banging….last week my crazy ex gf came out, brought me champagne. This girl suddenly goes batshit jealous. She baked a cake this week, invited me over. I was with a friend of mine so we both went over. He’s gay…so he’s the perfect wing man. I get a wall of text:

        Her: XXX is creepy, not good for you. u tend to pick bad girlfriends I got worried.

        She’s telling me my ex gf is “creepy”—note the use of that word applying it to another girl…

        I didn’t reply. I think replying is over-gaming. I want this girl to wonder if she offended me or if I read it, or if I care. Then when I bang her again…and I will bang her again, she’ll bake another cake for me.

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      • on February 27, 2015 at 11:30 am having a bad day

        @wala

        “I didn’t let some woman bake for me…I bought the pies from a woman who bakes. 27 year old went batshit crazy just in her own imagination.”

        even better…lol…let the 27 yo cook for you anyway…that’s what a girl’s reaction to pre-selection looks like…let her compete with her own imagination. you can only win…lol…

        “Now…on to second one. The 26 year old I gamed a few months back, classic number close etc…haven’t banged her. She won’t bang me. She comes over, cooks for me, cuddles with me on the couch….won’t kiss me until “I know you better”. We’ve gone out 4-5 times. Each time the date is at my home and involves cooking or doing something at my home—but NOT fucking.”

        the subcomms on this are that she wants you to FIGURE THIS OUT…lol…she ISOLATED with you 4 to 5 times…in an ISOLATED location…by yourselves…with PHYSICAL contact…ALONE together…lol…did i mention that you were ISOLATED?…lol…look up LMR techs and figure out which might work best and try it…lol…

        “So this got boring for me. So I ignored her. Then I went out to a club, she was there, had a dance with her…that was it. Ignored her the entire night. Was chatting with other girls, hanging out, had a drink.

        I leave, say “Bye”. Ten minutes later I get this text:

        Her: you ok?

        Me: ?

        Her: you didn’t smile much

        Me: Dancing is serious business

        Her: hope you’re fine

        Her: glad you’re fine

        Her: 🙂

        Spot the dread game here. Girl gets TONS of my exclusive attention…gives nothing back—well, she cooks but so did my mom.”

        she gave you LOTS back…lol…see above…ISOLATION ain’t ‘nothing’…lol…she’s still chasing you…hoping you can figure this out…this is the head-turn girl, right?…when she turned her head, did you back off…or wait her out…up close and personal/staying in her space…so it could ‘just happen’?…

        “Some of you guys were asking about how this all works…It works when you make it seem you’re there but not paying attention but she’s expecting it.

        Third…girl I’m banging….last week my crazy ex gf came out, brought me champagne. This girl suddenly goes batshit jealous. She baked a cake this week, invited me over. I was with a friend of mine so we both went over. He’s gay…so he’s the perfect wing man. I get a wall of text:

        Her: XXX is creepy, not good for you. u tend to pick bad girlfriends I got worried.

        She’s telling me my ex gf is “creepy”—note the use of that word applying it to another girl…

        I didn’t reply. I think replying is over-gaming. I want this girl to wonder if she offended me or if I read it, or if I care. Then when I bang her again…and I will bang her again, she’ll bake another cake for me.”

        see, girls are starting to do domestic things for you…have them compete on cleaning your place, next…lol…

        good luck!

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      • on February 27, 2015 at 11:42 am walawala

        @HABD Right, this is the “head turn” girl. I couldn’t get it going. Tried various techniques. Now my technique is no-technique, no more attention for a while. That series of “you ok?” texts was telling but not sure what to do with it. She’s chasing. But I’ll wait for some concrete offer of something and amp it up.

        But it’s BORING just being alone and getting the same LMR 3 times in a row. I never have to work for it so I didn’t.

        Last time I just left it and she was crawling all over me. When I responded she backed away—like a kitten and a ball of string. I’m the ball of string in this scenario.

        Any thoughts on breaking through LMR? She’s there…not angry, not leaving…just not doing…anything or responding.

        One thing I did say was “Do you want to kiss me?”

        She said “Not until I know you better”

        Me…pulling the Mystery line: “I didn’t say you could, just asking if you wanted to…”

        She loved the banter…still didn’t work. But she didn’t leave until it was time for her to go.

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      • on February 27, 2015 at 11:55 am having a bad day

        @wala

        “She’s there…not angry, not leaving…just not doing…anything or responding.”

        = she wants you to figure it out…and it has to ‘just happen’…

        “Any thoughts on breaking through LMR? ”

        drop back to textbook escalation and ramp it up ‘properly’…

        http://www.vindicarlo.com/DiCarlo%20Escalation%20Ladder%20-%20vindicarlo.com.pdf

        good luck!

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      • on February 27, 2015 at 1:59 pm theasdgamer

        Could be the girl is a deliberate blue ball tease. Turn the tables. Talk to her when she’s at your place but don’t let her touch you without resistance. Make her escalate.

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      • on February 27, 2015 at 5:39 pm theasdgamer

        HABD:

        Field Report Update: Mrs. Gamer had another breakdown today when I told her about my struggles with the bonding at the same time that she issued her nuclear loyalty test. Mrs. Gamer was totally unsympathetic, as expected. I told her that I woke up and thought about the other broad. Breakdown commenced with waterworks and no rant. [Cue “Cheater, Cheater” by Joey and Rory]

        Been reconsidering relying on The Chat ™ to set boundaries. Not sure that married (or single) broads will believe The Chat ™ if a married man is out solo. Still, it’s good policy that I can always refer back to if necessary. Just don’t expect women to believe it.

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    • on February 26, 2015 at 1:04 pm kuchak

      james bone…heh heh, she said bone.

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    • on February 26, 2015 at 1:45 pm Reco

      Your response should be:

      “does this mean a blowjob is out of the question?”

      lol

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    • on February 26, 2015 at 3:23 pm YaReally

      @walawala
      Send “lol” then 2 weeks complete radio silence no matter what she sends you.

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      • on February 26, 2015 at 3:30 pm YaReally

        P.S. She’s getting attached. Inviting you to art shows and shit = priming you to be her BF. So back at the start banging another girl wouldn’t be a big deal to her, but now it “hurts” her that you were with her Monday and ALREADY have some OTHER SLUT!!! omg!!! lol

        Can probably still bang her but be careful now that you’ve crossed this line: expect your texts to get published somewhere or shown to other people so don’t text anything incriminating about your life/relationships in general (like I NEVER talk shit about my girls to other girls because I know those girls will show other girls those texts I’m talking shit if they get the chance…so I won’t be like “no those other girls are just meaningless sluts to me” in text where one of those other girls might read it one day on a crazy bitch’s Facebook post lol), and make sure you haven’t done and aren’t doing anything that could be misconstrued as a false rape accusation if she goes off the deep end.

        Also expect potentially more difficulty getting her to bang you, like if you go to the art show she might purposely not put out that night in an attempt to get you to LTR her up for access to the poon.

        This is why I don’t do “date stuff” with my girls…too much of it and this moment comes sooner than it would have if I kept her at arm’s length.

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      • on February 26, 2015 at 5:17 pm walawala

        @YaReally I haven’t replied because I think the “fuck off” was over the top…

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  30. on February 26, 2015 at 8:49 am Karl111

    Do Chinese/Oriental or Indian-Pakistani men have weaker game?

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    • on February 26, 2015 at 9:41 am walawala

      Chinese guys are mostly pussy-whipped. They are beta orbiters who buy their way into a girl’s life and spend their time clinging.

      When I was with the various girls in my social circle, some faggot was always talking trash about me to the girl….and often they would parrot this crap back to me. I’d get mad. Then I realized these guys were deliberately trying to stir this shit up to break us up. Betas.

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      • on February 26, 2015 at 11:08 am trav777

        A real alpha would have shoved these little chinks up against the wall and advised them to stop talking shit or else.

        Why are you making fucking easy pieces like Asian girls into such a spergy endeavor?

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      • on February 26, 2015 at 3:50 pm Sentient

        @Trav – every time you post you reinforce you really are this kid with the glasses… let it go man.

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    • on February 26, 2015 at 10:11 am Skinner

      Probably in most cases. But I’d say it’s linked to their weaker SMV.

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  31. on February 26, 2015 at 9:08 am chris

    Here’s a theory for you:

    Feminists are a phenotypic morph.
    Feminism is political-ideological weaponization by that phenotypic morph.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polymorphism_(biology)

    Polymorphism in biology occurs when two or more clearly different phenotypes exist in the same population of a species—in other words, the occurrence of more than one form or morph. In order to be classified as such, morphs must occupy the same habitat at the same time and belong to a panmictic population (one with random mating).

    http://rsbl.royalsocietypublishing.org/content/11/2/20140977

    “Stay or stray? Evidence for alternative mating strategy phenotypes in both men and women”

    This study shows there are two disitnct phenotypes within human populations. Promiscuous people and non-promiscuous people. Promiscuous = low digit ratio=higher testosterone=short-term mating strategy.

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25250010

    “Feminist activist women are masculinized in terms of digit-ratio and social dominance: a possible explanation for the feminist paradox.”

    This study shows that feminists are masculinised in terms of digit ratios=lo digit ratios=higher testosterone.

    This explains why feminism is about changing society from long-term to short term mating. It explains why they defend women being sluts. It explains why they defend women cuckolding. It explains why they defend and agitate for women to pursue careers and achieve self-provisioning sufficiency. And it explains why they try to change the culture to support these values and necessarily oppose their anti/inverse values.

    Thus, there is no right-wing war on women. There is a right wing war on the short-term mating or feminist or matriarchal morph.

    Likewise there is a left-wing war on the long-term mating or anti-feminist or patriarchal morph.

    And here’s the catch; most women are in the long-term mating / anti-feminist / patriarchal morph.

    In other words. feminism is anti-(the majority of)-women.

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  32. on February 26, 2015 at 10:06 am Mischievous Cad

    H, what about….. Stripper Game?

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  33. on February 26, 2015 at 10:10 am James Blonde

    Stop the presses!

    CH taken to the woodshed by a gay white supremacist:

    http://www.counter-currents.com/2015/02/does-the-manosphere-morally-corrupt-men/#more-53264

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    • on February 26, 2015 at 11:10 am Greg Eliot

      I hate Illinois Nazis.

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  34. on February 26, 2015 at 11:02 am Theatre

    Can anyone interpret these statements for me? This girl I was gaming for about two months. But unfortunately I wanted more so I broke it off when she showed some hesitation and started telling me my flaws. ‘Betahurt’ mistake that I now regret.

    So I decided to text her after two weeks and apart from general chitchat when I brought up the idea that Isolation allowed me to see things differently these replies were thrown at me.

    “why did you contact me? y sudden mind change?”

    “you don’t have anything substantial to add here hence ur reply” (she said this after I said you think too much )

    “everything clear on ur mind?” (after I said that things become clear when we are alone)

    It feels like that she is looking for more reassurance but I am afraid that she might just be beta baiting and will bait me and leave. I cant decide What should be my course of action since I am not sure if she is actually interested or just baiting me.

    I guess the one good thing is that she is not indifferent.

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    • on February 26, 2015 at 11:09 am Greg Eliot

      I’ll defer to the opinion of the text masters, but it sounds like a lost cause to me… and I would have given her the air after that that “substantial to add” remark.

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    • on February 26, 2015 at 1:03 pm Scray

      ‘Can anyone interpret these statements for me? This girl I was gaming for about two months. But unfortunately I wanted more so I broke it off when she showed some hesitation and started telling me my flaws. ‘Betahurt’ mistake that I now regret.’

      So, here we can see that you either a) made a game mistake somewhere along the line that led to you pushing for more rather than her, b) didn’t even really get anywhere (you don’t specify whether you slept with her or anything), or c) just got unlucky (I know that it’s popular in the PUA-sphere to ascribe 100% of the blame to yourself, and there’s ALWAYS something you could have done better, but sometimes, shit just happens that is out of your control).

      ‘So I decided to text her after two weeks and apart from general chitchat when I brought up the idea that Isolation allowed me to see things differently these replies were thrown at me.’

      “why did you contact me? y sudden mind change?”

      “you don’t have anything substantial to add here hence ur reply” (she said this after I said you think too much )

      “everything clear on ur mind?” (after I said that things become clear when we are alone)’

      Ah. Wow. Lighten up, Leonardo. Whatever you did before was probably some angsty bullshit. I’ve been there. If you want to make it work to your advantage, you need to leave the ‘wanting more’ part unsaid and just withdraw. That allows her to imagine that there’s some manly, noble reason for you being distant than ‘oh he’s a bitch.’ Better thought: just ditch it. When there’s ‘more’ to be had, she’ll push for it. They always do.

      The play here, in text messages, is a) seem fun and b) get her to meet up with you and c) when you meet up DO NOT TALK ABOUT YOUR DEEP THOUGHTS AND FEELINGS. You are killing her attraction. She is supposed to have thoughts and feelings.

      If you must ‘lay it on the line,’ then do so and move on. Don’t linger on it. Literally ‘yeah I’m into you and want to be with you,’ as if you were just shooting the breeze and it was no big deal. The more you drag it out the more she feels like you need her approval and need her to agree with you.

      It’s not over thought. Some would say it’s ‘never’ over.

      Her: “why did you contact me? y sudden mind change?”
      Me: Ya. Kinda missed joking around with you (I would say some form of this…you can make it more C&F, if you want…I wouldn’t make it any more touchy-feely than this, tho)

      Two rules for texts:
      1) Every text should either build or maintain your value
      2) Every text should move you toward a meetup

      If you aren’t doing both of those things, you’re just screwing around. So talking about how ‘thinking when you’re alone’ makes things clearer is a NO, here.

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    • on February 26, 2015 at 5:29 pm walawala

      @Theatre Great post. Here’s the thing I’ve begun to see up close after reading and intellectualizing: girls think and react emotionally NOT logically.

      I have had this SAME situation and it ended the SAME way…

      You reach out and lay it out there for a girl. Suddenly—and I’m not sure what the psychological term for this is—but perhaps it’s the idea that your reaching out triggers in her a sense of “weakness”. Her own ego/sexual market value shoots up. She’s now in a power position and the relationship she thought she wanted is suddenly no longer appealing.

      She’s just basically parroting nonsense: “everything clear in your mind?” she has a need to see you supplicate further.

      The fact she didn’t reply positively to your vulnerability and honesty is a very good case study of how women self-sabotage.

      Leave it. Go dark and find someone else…ignore her outreach—and she will reach out after this when she doesn’t hear from you because she likes the “orbiting” behavior but isn’t prompted to act because you didn’t make yourself a big enough challenge.

      Your post leads me to confirm that unless the girl makes a first move and it’s a genuine move…there’s no sense in re-connecting.

      Back to my crazy ex whom I’ve written about at length but who has provided me with tremendous insight into my own and woman’s hypergamous behavior.

      I reached out proactively to her several times after she left. She responded….but then started throwing all sorts of hurt nonsense at me: “I have other guys chasing me” kind of stuff…I had no “power”.

      Now? After ignoring her for the better part of a year…she comes out to my New Year’s party to dance with me, I get her to help me clean up…kiss her…then tell her to leave. She’s now bringing me drinks at a party…hanging around—just enough to drop interest. I text her afterwards with “You’re stupid”—-she’s responding with good humour and banter…

      I have NOT asked her out again…I have NOT expressed any direct interest…

      So it’s the old “We had to burn down the village to save it” paradox….

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      • on February 26, 2015 at 9:02 pm theasdgamer

        +1

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  35. on February 26, 2015 at 11:19 am Sham

    I submit for the enjoyment of my CH brethren the following A++ trolling:

    https://www.facebook.com/tattoo.moms.are.horrible

    How did I discover this gem? A friend of a friend, who happens to be an unemployed single mom heroin addict with a bazillion tattoos shared it with hundreds of her friends outraged and demanding everyone report it, of course.

    Perhaps more fitting for Goodbye America, the comments on her post are of course entirely supportive.

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  36. on February 26, 2015 at 11:38 am newlyaloof

    Off topic, but cool:

    There’s another game called Driving Home Game. Whenever someone gets up on your ass in their car behind you, plop your arm on top of the passenger headrest (like the Alpha couch pose you posted some time back). I’ve been doing this for quite some time and 85% of the time, the person behind me will back off. It’s a trip! Give this game experiment a try and report back. Usually doesn’t work on women – I guess they want to get even closer.

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  37. on February 26, 2015 at 3:39 pm Lichthof

    or in this girl’s case – ‘ why bother’ game.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/melanie-curtin/ten-things-to-avoid-when-_b_3447210.html

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