Commenter nash2z writes,
[The sexual marketplace] is beginning to favor the much older man/younger woman pairing.
I will illustrate. I am a 52 year old white man, and am currently dating a 21 year old white woman, and a 24 year old white woman; simultaneously. I met both online, thru a dating site. I’ve gathered from both that their attraction to me (I do look a few years younger and can pass for mid-forties, and this is a prerequisite I believe) is in their expectations that I am more old school masculine than the younger men they can choose from in their pool. But there’s another reason I’ve picked up as well – and that is the expectation that the older man is not part of the pump-n-dump crowd (little do they know) of which the predominance as of late has been making these women feel cheated out of what they consider to be quality relationships. What they are looking for, in response to what they have been enduring their entire sexual lives, are for men to consider them in a more serious LTR light – never mind that they don’t deserve it. Putting off a muted version of this vibe while at the same time reminding them of the overall beta-flavor of their respective man-circles has done wonders not only to score with these two women, but in my favorable responses from other under 25 female prey when approached.
Could we be seeing the response from women to game – in the wider acceptance of the older man/younger woman pairing. Time will tell.
Effeminizing Millennials works to the sexual market advantage of older, more masculine men who haven’t yet learned of the wonders of the brony, male feminist, and transsexual anime lifestyles. But nash2z hits on another explanation that may be more pertinent: There are some younger women who crave a rock solid relationship. Whatever the objective reality, I would bet that older men do give off a “I’m capable of, and willing to, form an adult relationship with a woman who meets my stringent criteria for a worthwhile lifelong mate” vibe.
By filtering for these kinds of younger women tired of the dating scene, the older man can increase his meet-to-lay-to-love ratio. Beyond this implication, it’s a hypothetical exercise whether the acceptance and utilization of game by cad hopefuls will drive significant numbers of women into the arms of older (or younger) men who signal their readiness for more serious commitment.
[…] One Reason Younger Women Like Older Men […]
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Show me ANYWHERE in the dominant culture, K-12 and on to Bachelor’s and beyond, where little boys are seeing ANY promotion of masculine virtue. These kids have no idea what it means to be a man.
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1960s:
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2010s:
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You people who aren’t keeping tabs on the culture have no idea as to the total-warfare scorched-earth GENOCIDE which is being waged against the hearts and minds and souls of little White boys. You have no earthly idea.
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Bears are Jewish?
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Yep, bears are now jewish. YOU HAVE NO EARTHLY IDEA HOW BAD IT IS NOW FOR LITTLE WHITE BOYS!!!!!
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And may we assume that everyone is aware that “Elmo” is played by a sodomite negro who molests little boys?
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And may we assume that everyone is aware that “Elmo” is played by a sodomite negro who molests little boys?
Now, now, let’s not be judgmennnnntal about (inferior) Afro-Muslim cultures.
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You have no idea how much I envy you for this.
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“You people who aren’t keeping tabs on the culture have no idea as to the total-warfare scorched-earth GENOCIDE which is being waged against the hearts and minds and souls of little White boys. You have no earthly idea.”
As I said the other day, I recently glanced into a current high school history textbook and was sickened. Genocide is exactly the word, even if it is (for now) mostly restricted to the psychological, social, academic, corporate, and judicial spheres. No question these people yearn for the day they can at last erect the gulags and gas chambers openly, just like every other socialist regime in history that they venerate.
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Now, now, let’s not be judgmennnnntal about (inferior) Afro-Muslim cultures.
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The last white man alive in the future super white high tech society, will impose so many costs on the environment that it will only be able to sustain ONE of him.
On that day his robots will surround him and the darkest one will very politely let him know the next round of technological progress will impose such huge costs on the environment that it won’t be possible to support any white people at all; and would he mind ingesting this cyanide pill so white progress can march on without him?
*Please accept this moon rock as a token of our appreciation*
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The “dominant culture” is receding. Don’t worry so hard. You’re needlessly inducing an aneurysm. Cut out the caffeine and alcohol, take some blood thinners, put a cold compress on your forehead, and read this:
http://www.jamesbowman.net/diaryDetail.asp?hpID=601
Overestimating the enemy is worse than underestimating them. The former freezes you in place while the latter merely sets you up for a rude awakening. We have a tendency to enlarge our enemies to the point where our very enlargement gives them just enough power to keep us in their thrall. We want to be “in the know,” we want our diagnosis to be precise, we don’t want to be caught holding our dicks. But making a life out of obsessing over evil takes you out of the game and traps you in despair.
“He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster. And when you gaze long into an abyss the abyss also gazes into you.”
You are destroying your worth as a culture warrior. You are getting caught up in detail. They are deliberately baiting you, boiling your blood for a purpose: to consume you with your own thoughts and outrage rather than doing something effective.
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The last white man alive in the future super white high tech society, will impose so many costs on the environment that it will only be able to sustain ONE of him.
Shut up, hippy.
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T-h-w-a-c-k, the only thing your kind has to worry about is whether or not the last white man turns out the lights as he leaves the room.
And for the record, it’s comments like yours above that made no one decry your (ahem) “assassination”, as you termed it when CH banned your black ass for race trolling the first time.
(((shakin’ mah haid)))
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The Captain of the Titanic was a hero to most.
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The Captain of the Titanic was a hero to most.
Yeah, and he drove a huge liner into an iceberg…
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Yeah, but he was a rabid antisemite and blamed YKW for the disaster…
“Iceberg, Ginsberg… they’re all the same!”
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Since I started dating younger women I’m getting response like “I like a guy who’s more mature” or there’s the fantasy of “I just want an older guy who will just want to fuck me”—subtext here—older guy will want to settle with her…
In some cases it’s me being foreign and older. But it could also be the “experienced” aspect mixed with confidence.
Girls will say “you’re pretty confident aren’t you?” or some variation.
They also like the banter and humour that dudes their own age seem afraid of.
A girl I made out with and always game was wearing a floral print dress….
Me: I want to pluck you….
Her: blushing “Ohhhhhh”
Context is important—if you can look younger or act younger but be older that’s a plus. The downside is no girl wants to be with a guy who “looks” like her dad—wearing a gay sweater, beer gut….comfy shoes.
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In many cases, the beta behavior women hate is actually of immature male behavior. Hence the term “mature” suggesting sexiness in men.
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> “immature male behavior” It’s not immaturity, it’s utter cluelessness. TPTB have intentionally withheld from little White boys any and all edumakashun in what it means to grow up to be a MAN. Instead, little White boys are now fed a 24×7 diet in growing up to be effete panty-waist limp-wristed ballerinas.
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It’s not immaturity, it’s utter cluelessness. TPTB have intentionally withheld from little White boys any and all edumakashun in what it means to grow up to be a MAN.
SJW crap in the public skoolz administered by fat middle-aged liberal broads doesn’t really work all that well, doanit?
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Impregnate these women and take them far away. let their hands become coarse from tending to the soil
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>But it could also be the “experienced” aspect mixed with confidence.
So a kind of preselection.
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In other words, if an older man acts semi-beta, he can get the half of the woman that wants a beta to take care of her, but if he is an alpha, once she gets pulled in by fake betatude, the alpha side takes care of her need for an alpha half. The only problem with that is, it will be rare to get a woman who hasn’t rode the carosel to the point that even John Holmes would be throwing a hotdog down a hallway. On the positive side, they tend to be more open to sexual experimentation and less likely to complain.
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Don’t know if one can be semi-beta and Alpha at the same time. The “beta” qualities like resources etc. which would make a suitable LTR and possible marriage/home/kids have to flow from the Alphaness of a man being at the top of his game from a professional standpoint. I don’t think you can present the resources angle as quid for the poosy quo (that is textbook beta). In fact, the quote relates that younger women crave the unabashed masculinity of the older man when viewed in the context of mewling Millennial boycunts. The LTR qualities (or perception thereof) have to be congruous with the Alphaness – the successful guy has the house and cars and money because he wants them and can get them not because he’s creating a pre-made “nest” for a woman.
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There is no reason for any man to act “beta” under any circumstance whatever. If you do it to score some impressionable young trim, not only have you deployed an unnecessary tactic for a rudimentary task, you’ve sold your soul for a mess of pottage.
Women forever need a daddy. We want them to stay childlike or else they lose their femininity, and consequently, their beauty. It’s not news that defenseless, naive, and drunk millennials can be scooped up by the hoe-ful — they’ve been taught they are full-grown women when they are more immature at their age than any cohort of any generation in history. And their boomer “dads” are enfaggened pussies who would almost pay to watch their girls get defiled.
What countervailing factors remain today? The feminist shame factor — fat women howling neuroses up out their vaginae like a clammy stink spout at the cruel injustice of beauty mated to power? (If you like the company of pretty women you are a pedophile, etc.) The age of consent legalism held up like a thin piece of parchment against the tsunami of nature’s instinct?
Older men capturing young women is not difficult. In fact, it is the opposite of difficult — it is the natural order of things, just as women pair with taller men as a rule. Women have always married men older than themselves because it takes longer to make a man, who has to become worldly and competent while a girl only needs a brief stint at Finishing School. Women are at peak beauty twenty years earlier than men are at peak power.
Now, what are we going to do with this occult knowledge (that is in fact “written on [everyone’s] heart”)? Bang lotsa chicks?
If you have made it to 35-45-55 and haven’t received your perceived quota of prime-age quim — and there really is a limit before the candy starts to rot your teeth; if you are trying to make up for lost time and missed opportunity; if you feel entitled to the pristine bodies of virgins because you spent your 20s being a timid, dry-dicked chode; then that’s the pathetic factor you are discounting. That’s what creeps normal people out, seeing a middle-aged divorcee pawing after college sophomores, and rightly so.
The problem isn’t that May-November pairings are unnatural. They aren’t. The problem is that a mature man should have gotten his shit together and sowed his wild oats before they rotted in the sack. By a certain age a man should be transmuting his sexual energy into lasting endeavors, accomplishments, and progeny. If he isn’t, there is something deeply fucked up about thinking he can turn back the clock without the world noticing.
Matt
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Age can be a double-edged sword. You may have heard about the wealthy 70 year-old who married a gorgeous girl in her mid-twenties and was asked to account for his success.
“I lied about my age”
“Told her you were 60 then?”
“No, told her I was 80”
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I don’t think an old man could consistently cut it in this age of hyper connectivity, young chicks will get bored stiff in their company.
The only exception is when a man has his shit together financially speaking, ie oozes money, then he can easily attract younger women.
Very few women will turn down an all paid holiday in 5 star resort in the Bahamas.
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i habitually bang young chicks. I’m just substantially more entertaining than their peers. WTF, you think fuckin facebook and this shit is entertaining? It bores them silly and they don’t realize it until you are giving them some excitement and real emotion in a conversation.
Last time at LAX, I sat down amidst a number of people just smartphoning and I said shit like “wtf, are your smartphones THAT interesting, put that shit down and shut it off.” Within a couple minutes people were laughing, chatting, numbers were getting exchanged, etc. Let the booze flow.
If I see a girl who is bitch shielding with her stupid ishit, I almost scold her. “is that 4 inch screen full of virtual bullshit ACTUALLY what you wanna do with your life, wouldn’t you really rather have a drink with a fantastically attractive guy like me?” You add some prop in as a joke to take the edge off that, “in this airport lounge bar with their ‘premium’ merlot, PRE MEE UM” and you go from there. Just approach, direct, and add some ridiculousness and you’re off to the races.
Recognize that this connected life is terminally boring and repetitive. It’s as fools goldy as feminism. Sold hard but only leads to disappointment.
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Isn’t that part of the mystery? If you’re 23 you pretty much have to have Facebook and whatnot and be beside your phone posting “just ate a turkey sandwich, #yumm” – if not you’re some kind of countercultural weirdo. But if you’re older you can cultivate the mystery of not being “connected.” It’s the frame, not the content.
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Not been my experience. You don’t have to have a pile of cash and plane tickets to woo younger women, you just have to offer them the opportunity of not being the least-clueless one in the relationship for a change. Young women hate, hate, hate having to wear the pants. It’s not daddy issues that makes them appreciate the company of someone who always has a plan.
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Touche
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half right, the money and settledness does help. go out– the younger guys just don’t have money usually. and no, girls don’t say no to trips. makes things easier as you get older.
but the first part, i don’t think is true at all. being hyper-connected does zilch for improving someone’s physical company. no one wants to sit with someone as their face glows from their phone. and it’s not exactly tough to stay up to speed on connectivity– we don’t have to be perfect, just as good or better than young guys. not tough.
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A lot of my 40-something buddies have 25 year old girlfriends. Works well until the guys get bored, or start acting needy.
Not that I’m asking but I don’t think they play text game at all, they seem to use-non-connectivity as a way to keep the girls at arm’s length a bit. Not texting maybe is game in and of itself – “Nah, sorry I didn’t get your text. I don’t pay attention to the phone unless you call.” Just a different way of establishing a frame.
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Agreed. No-texting game IS the way. Just nip that one in the bud early.
Believe it or not, a girl taught me that. A hot alpha-female stripper. She never texted. Always called, and only when she wanted to get laid. And if I ignored her calls she showed up at my door.
Figured if it worked for her it could work for me, and it has. Beautifully.
However… I make exceptions for the occasional one word text. Example: “drinks?”
You have to gauge a girl’s sex drive. The higher her sex drive the less communication needed to keep her hooked.
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“You have to gauge a girl’s sex drive. The higher her sex drive the less communication needed to keep her hooked.”
i’ve noticed this too. i had a past girlfriend like this. she didn’t need or want constant communication. just a text or two every couple of days or so and i didn’t see her very often. kind of an introvert so i think she liked having a lot of time to herself. good deal for both of us. and as soon as i got in contact with her she was always ready to go straight to bed. didn’t care about long dinner dates or anything. just straight to bed.
of course she eventually dumped me because, in her words, “i know you don’t care about me very much and i can’t keep loving someone who doesn’t care if i live or die”
still confused about what happened with that one.
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Easy cure – when she pulls out the phone, tell her to put it away – she’s with a man.
I’ve done this a lot – and it works like a charm
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its not just money. it can be pretty much anything. access to booze, a place to stay the night at instead of having to go home, no rules, no sneaking around or even drugs. the only downside for them is if they get knocked up, they will be ridiculed by their friends if they know. which is also another aspect to the old guy young chick dynamic. the tabooness of it. the secretiveness of it. this goes doubly for dorm college chicks. if they are sleeping with someone on campus ppl are going to know about it. To some women this is not acceptable. Having a nice apartment with no roommates. Specially if its close by historical areas or downtown or some place with a view somewhat close to campus. Every now and then drive around and look for new apartments and places to live, if you see some place that looks interesting investigate it a little. Being a little proactive in this department can pay off big. I personally like a place with a view, but living 3 or 4 stories up or more can make moving and getting stuff. Those places tend to be hotter in the summer and can cost a little more.
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lol. you could hope.
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@Heartiste, from my observations of younger dudes at bars, they have no clue about what “The Oak” concept of planting your feet and remaining still is. They just fidget all over the place and can’t let go of and stop looking at their phones. They just are not comfortable in their own skin in the bar environment (used to be this way). I think younger women can just sense that in older dude’s behavior and demeanor – that and they dress better. Just my theory, but if you watch older dudes at bars, you will see what I mean. They are oaks, and the young guys are willows.
P.S. It’s Friday, gentlemen:
http://www.kindgirls.com/photo/nubiles/marina_viskonti_44376/6891/12/6/
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Hmmm. Timely post. If I may, this might be a situation where “NAWALT” (really). I’m 39 and currently banging a hot 24 y.o. “very educated” woman who is a ton of fun. Fun times with her. That’s not a huge age difference, but that’s pretty respectable. Not gonna happen without some game. I finally got it through my thick skull and went hardcore alpha, not “asshole” but positive YaReally style (as best I can do it) alpha. I changed my tinder profile to a straight up awesome one that instantly started getting results. Not even going to share it here, but it is awesome. And ya I’m fit and can pass for early 30s, and that helps.
But as to the post: my profile basically straight up says “I only do alpha fux with young, fun loving hotties who are having fun. If you have “had your fun” and are now looking for your beta bux and boring dinner dates, don’t message me.” and it says a few other super cocky things that seem to attract women (trade secret). Basically the old GBFM thing but without gibberish.
After I changed to this profile I immediately started getting 15X the messages from real women under 30. Some of them, like my 24 year old, flat out admit they love sex and are doing the CC and have no interest in a relationship and want an older guy who knows what he’s doing, and she aggressively said she does not want a relationship. She calls herself “a kid,” fully bought in to the modern narrative that’s been set for her. She just flat out took my profile as what she wanted–once a week FB. Cool with me. Also because of my study of YaReally, I don’t plan to get oneitus either and I have other plates spinning. I faked it until I maked it with her, and there will be others soon.
And do you know what? It is fun to flirt with and have fun with a little 24 year old cutie. She’s super positive, fun, not at all bitchy, gives me compliments, is epic (EPIC) in bed, sends me naked pics all day that I did not ask for, and she’s a very hard 8.
I’m done complaining about the state of the world. I was given this world; I didn’t make it. I cannot change it. “If you can’t beat ’em, join ’em.”
Thank you, Mr. CH and Mr. YaReally, for all the lessons.
To the new dudes here who are bitter and suffering having just discovered the red pill: your only option is to learn game. Just do it, even if it takes 3 years. You went to law school for 3 years, right? Spend 3 years reading YaReally’s comments. And this is good: women *want* you to have game. They will light up for you and glow for you, if you only act cocky-funny, and it’s not that hard to do. Especially the hottest ones, as backwards as that sounds, between age 20 and 27. They are proudly riding the CC, and when they meet you, they are hoping you’ll be sexy and not a dorky provider beta. So don’t disappoint her. If the CC is bad for society or her in the long run, not my problem.
What a magic trick, indeed.
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Awesome post. Can you elaborate more on what you did with your tinder profile? Did you do professional photos? Is your profile very long?
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Donation of the cost of a hardcover book made.
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“There are some younger women who crave a rock solid relationship. ”
There are more young women who crave a cock solid relationship.
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This
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He makes a good point, which is: be youthful, physically and mentally, and you can clean up as an older dude. An example of the type of man who can pull this off well is the former pro athlete. Someone who’s pushed himself and can offer the best of all worlds to a woman: virility, wisdom, financial stability, experience.
The payoff of dating younger women (as an older dude) cannot be over-stated. Imagine buying a new Audi for, say $30k. That’s your younger woman.
Now imagine buying the same car, but 10 years old and with 120k miles on it, for $70k. That’s your older woman.
See the difference?
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Yeah, all the physical and mental work that I put into myself in my twenties has paid off now in my late thirties. Young girls may want older men, but only if we appear youthful. I boinked a 19-yr-old and a 22-yr-old late last year. The others since then have all been around 29-30.
With THAT being said …
I’ve got a 47-yr-old brunette coming over tonight. That’s significantly older than me, but if she’s already hit the wall, then it was cushioned with eggshell cartons or yoga mats or something, because I would’ve pegged her for no more than 35. Plus, she’s got that Minnesota Nice, and femininity and charm go a loooong way. As do her natural Ds.
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“That’s significantly older than me, but if she’s already hit the wall, then it was cushioned with eggshell cartons or yoga mats or something, because I would’ve pegged her for no more than 35.”
some women just age better than others.
i always think it’s funny how many guys will say that there are no attractive women over 20 but i think that’s because of where they live. i see PLENTY of very attractive women in their 30s, 40s and 50s where i am. i’m sure it’s situational. i live in a nicer suburban area where the people are generally pretty conservative and in middle to high income brackets. i think you tend to see a higher caliber type of woman here than in other areas.
some of it is due to good genetics i’m sure but the rest of it is because they just haven’t abused their bodies like most other women. even taking out the diet and exercise factor, i don’t think it’s all that hard for a girl to age well if she just avoids being a hardcore party slut in her younger years.
“Plus, she’s got that Minnesota Nice, and femininity and charm go a loooong way. As do her natural Ds.”
yeah, despite what most of the guys on here say, a sweet feminine personality can make a big difference in how you perceive a girl. the natural don’t hurt either…lol.
and people can call it oneitis or wife goggles if they want but in my opinion, whether or not a girl has a sweet disposition is a huge factor in whether or not i will my waste time with her. i don’t care how hot she is, if she has a shitty personality, i’m not giving her the time of day. i’ve been there, done that. will not do it again. absolutely not worth my time. but give me a sweet girl whose eager to please and not too terrible on the eyes. i’m happy as a clam.
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Blart read more here before you comment. You have many basic things wrong.
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Should he be assassinated?
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@Anonymous
“Blart read more here before you comment. You have many basic things wrong.”
i don’t take advice from guys who are too chicken shit to pick a handle but thanks anyway bro!
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Yup.
To me, a woman who’s absolutely sweet, charming, and eager to please gets +2 points added to her SMV. Last night, the 47-yr-old brunette showed up at my door in a tight skirt and black leather boots. She brought me a housewarming gift, suggested ways to reorganize my kitchen, and later even did my dishes after dinner. After half a bottle of wine, she was pinned down on my bed, experiencing the first of four orgasms. Afterwards she oh-so-sweetly asked me to let her spend the night. I agreed.
She was the perfect female. The weird thing is that this is the type of romantic experience you hope to have with a gorgeous tight-bodied twentysomething hottie. But a lot of the milennial women — as described her almost daily — are socially retarded, overly tatted, obnoxiously entitled, bitch shielded, and possessers of pudgy midsections. They don’t understand the intoxicating power of a really pretty smile, clean skin, and genuine kindness. It’s hypnotizing to a man.
So it’s a sad state when a thirtysomething man finds more femininity and attractiveness in the arms of a 47-yr-old woman than in her 23-yr-old competition. Yareally and others have predicted that in ten years, you’ll see a swing back towards sweet, ultrafeminine behavior. I hope it happens.
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@The Spirit I think you’re taking this from the BLUE PILL perspective.
To suggest a 47 year old woman coming over and cooking for you etc etc doesn’t have ulterior motives and is “sweet” is dreaming. This is just not possible.
EVERY woman has an agenda…sometimes that is a personal agenda. In the case of younger women they may be experimenting or they want to settle.
There is no such thing as a “Sweet” disposition. Every girl I’ve gone out with has a sweet kitten-like demeanour….until they don’t. Then their bizarre raging mood swings kick in and they hate me….only to miss me or regret whatever stupid thing they’ve done a day later.
Have all the fun you want. But to suggest that women have a “Sweet” demeanour is Blue Pill.
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“So it’s a sad state when a 47 ….”
I have been saying this for a while now.
American 23 years olds are overrated. Lots of PUFA and attitude.
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if you think it’s blue pill to acknowledge that some women are just more enjoyable to be around than others, you’re seeing things all wrong.
most young women today differ from the women of day’s past. not in a good way. we all know this. this subject is discussed almost daily here on this blog. that is proof that feminine sweet women do exist or we wouldn’t have anything to compare them to.
and we all have ulterior motives. so what? if a girl is sweet, sexy and compliant because she wants to get on our good side, well, isn’t that the whole point?
can’t be so cynical that you aren’t even able to even enjoy a girl’s sweet behavior when you see it without seeing it as a manipulative ploy. that’s no way to live.
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that last comment was meant for walawala obviously
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@Putin
American 23 years olds are overrated. Lots of PUFA and attitude.
yep, totally agree. all the talk about pedestalization and that’s exactly what most of these guys are doing. it amazes me what they will tolerate from these young girls. they’ve convinced themselves that they are worth jumping through hoops for but they’re not worth all that. not even close.
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@blart This is Blue Pill because the belief that some women are ‘different’ is unicorn thinking. It’s like believing you’ve found your soul-mate.
Girls who accommodate have a reason…i now question: what am i witnessing? Is this in response to my game? Has my game triggered the types of responses aligned with me getting what I want.
Some girls are more bitter and jaded than others. To suggest an older woman is a better choice than a younger one is wishful thinking.
What I’m looking for when I game a woman is not “compatability” it’s whether this is someone i can spend time with after I fuck them.
I’m not looking for someone to hang out with every day.
For this reason I’m now rotating a few girls who don’t ask and I don’t tell what i do in my spare time away from them.
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@walawala, yes, you’d amazingly find uglier women having the same sweeter dispositions, especially when their boyfriend has higher MV. I probably compiled data from dozens of relationships from friends and chubby girls with not so special faces, in general, give better head. What a surprise that women who aren’t good looking(and 47 years old women, no matter how in shape, aren’t good looking; e.g. while Sharon Stone was great looking for her age in Basic Instinct 2, half the girls in my university classes looked better lol) make up for it in other ways.
Secondly, I hardly give a shit if a woman cooks for me, unless it’s a long term thing. She can buy food on the way to my place for all I care or I can cook or buy food. The reality is that even most middle aged Western women are incompetent chefs at best.
Frankly, I got to the point where the idiosyncrasies of women no longer irk me. I accepted them as they are, much like you would if you had a pet cat or a pet dog. Educate your pet as well as you can and either kick it to the curb or accept it as it is. Romantic disappointment requires one to project one’s romantic ideals onto real people, which is silly to do with any sort of ideal.
Even what The Spirit Within calls socially retarded, I just see as something to use. What I find unique in each woman is the various emotional trips you can take them on and to a smaller extent they can take you on. I could hardly give a shit if they cook for me. I’d find it more enjoyable to make a teenage girl cook for me because that actually has value: she has to learn how to make a dish and so on and execute it. Some woman a third older than me and with 20 years of cooking experience devoting 15 minutes of her life to making some half assed meal for me means nothing. You can see the same behavior in women: drinks from high status men are appreciated, drinks from losers are just free drinks.
The reality is that any girl has a sweet disposition if you know how to fuck with her mind, unless she’s seriously broken emotionally(e.g. feminist activist :P).
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Spirit it is cool that you found a sexy feminine 47 YO. But my experience has been that when they hit the wall physically they are more often than not also hitting the wall with their personality. They usually are more combative, more opinionated, more difficult all around. They seem like they are incapable of just getting along. Whether I am alpha or higher beta. Their time on the cock carousel has turned many of them into broken used up old gold digging whores.
The younger ones on the other hand more often defer to my opinion on things admitting that they really do not know anything. They are more fun loving and and willing to learn. Complimentary and they look up to me. In fact taking some of my previous flings with 20 somethings into consideration. The things said to me by these young girls has been sweeter and more supplicating than any thing my wife ever said to me.
Of course some women are different and can go against the norm. Maybe you found one. I will be curious to see how it holds up.
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At 47 I find the opposite, that younger women are all too happy to be swept up in the fantasy of a powerful older guy for a short term fling. I think also they find is sexy that they are competing with other women, a wife for example that has the commitment, and that is also a turn on. And that you both know this is just a fling there is nothing coming from it. I think so many guys go full beta as soon as sex is involved and these girls don’t want that (because the guys are not catches).
The sweet spot is 23 YO’s up to 27. They are no longer awed by “seniors” as they were when they were freshmen in college. And the average 23-27 YO guy is pretty lame. He may have been BMOC Frat dude but now he is shining the shoes of 40 and 50 year olds. Low man on the pole, with nothing in the way of assets to speak of, shitty apartment, maybe roomates etc.
And the girls, well the bloom is off their “little girl in the big city” rose glasses. Now they are jammed into shitty apartments, have to pay rent, are broke, aren’t remotely interested in marrying and settling down, have shitty jobs answering mostly to older women who hate them for their looks and torture them with passive aggressive bullshit… what else is there for them? Broke beta guys still acting like they are at a frat party????
No, the opportunity to be with a worldly powerful dude who is all GAME, all alpha and reeks of assets… That is a powerful fantasy that is easy to let them execute on.
It’s open season out there guys in your 40’s and 50’s. Just be careful in mixed groups, they are concerned about their BFF’s judging them… Isolate. Extract.
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This is actually pretty accurate from my experience ha. And I’m that assetless ex frat dude. But hey us frat dudes got heaven for 4 years-you can’t deny–and we do have a little more to work with in terms of social circle etc. But I see friend zoning happens a lot.
I said it somewhere in this comments section.
If you are in your 30s and have a career making 150k+ and you have good game or some, then you can really get a lot of the 20s girls..a lot….game has to be there though.
You don’t even have do be making a lot of money you just have to be super passionate about something. I.e. A ski bum livig near a mountain or something.
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Since reading this site, it’s been great chatting up and hitting younger women. Even if you get rejected, you have the best come back line: “That’s okay. You may not be ready for someone sophisticated right now. I’ll ask later.”
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Makes you sound like a faggot with hurt feelings. Like girls saying theyre too pretty or werent really interested anyway.
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Actually, I’d say it works if he delivers it properly, which he won’t do if he’s actually a faggot with hurt feelings. I’d get rid of the ‘Ill ask later’ part though. Why would you even bother going back to her?
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and hitting younger women.
No wonder you’re not getting anywhere.
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+1
but it’s still better than pedestalizing them.
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You understand “hitting” means “fucking”?
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don’t be this guy…
Be this guy
and have strong game.
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LOL!
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I posit that every single woman not only craves a HUSBAND (ltr is a marriage, case closed) but NEEDS one. Whether or not she knows this herself. A real manly valuable husband. They can say what they want and auck all the dicks they see and surveys can repeat themselves but the actions of these slutty, horny, lonely, desperate, thirsty maniac women tells a different story.
Keep in mind always that it doesnt matter what a woman says. It doesny matter that shes inprisoned by marriage. She needs chains. Women cant handle freedom. Their luxuries and fr3edoms were bought and paid for by men. They cant survive without men. Theor place is at a mans heel, complaining about the scenery.
Is the current legal atmosphere conducive to divorce rape? Yes. But women dont divorce rape real men of value whom they love and respect
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A few thoughts : I am dating 20 year olds and getting more attention from that age group than ever before. Thanks Uncle CH. But yes, the ‘hook up’ culture on college is frustrating to many young females. Also these women crave strong men – their fathers were not strong and their male peers are not strong.
I was in a diner the other day near DC – a white middle class suburb and nearly every boy that came in (ages 6- 18) acted and looked like a girl. It is only going to get worse.
My heroes: Charles Bronson, Ian Botham, Steve Waugh, Lothar Matthaeus and erm ahem the 1996 German team who were European Champions in soccer (the entire team were alpha), the 1982 West German team who trained for the world cup with activities such as smoking cigarettes and fucking women in hotels, the 6th Army – I cling onto you all.
West German Team 1982 – don’t fuck with these (they even attacked their fans!)
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Want to stay in the game longer? Get on the juice (steroids) TRT.
I started at 28, wish I had started at 21.
I think this is a huge underlying factor among 50 something males chasing young girls: what do your test levels look like?
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Not good for you. Go with progesterone instead. Get the Ray Peat one.
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I’ve found that online is much easier at 28 than 23. Yeah I know its not that old. The difference to me is that girls who are a couple years post college operate in a much more scarce/purposeful dating mindset than the ones that are still partying most weekends. They’re not even close to the wall but seeing their friends get married and have babies must have some sort of effect.
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Show me ANYWHERE in the dominant culture, K-12 and on to Bachelor’s and beyond, where little boys are seeing ANY promotion of masculine virtue
Dominant culture is your adversary. You have to have an in mala fide relationship with it, unlike if you, say, had a country of your own.
Acculturation is up to you. Read Greek myths to your boys. I own a thick, recently published beautifully illustrated kids edition of all the major myths. No false or gratuitous diversity in the illustrations, any softening of the original narrative is solely for reasons of age-appropriateness. Heroes sometimes overreach. Your benefactors sometimes backstab you. Women sometimes betray you. Sometimes a warrior betrays a woman. Gods are capricious.
All characters in my edition are blonde or brown haired, all are very attractive. A boy lights up when he is read (or when he is old enough to read on his own) about heroes like Theseus, Odysseus, and Perseus.
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Classical Greeks and their mythology is also fairly red pill when it comes to women and their motives. You don’t get a lot of the pedistalization that one might from “King and Castle” type myths. The female was viewed as essentially base and beast-like in her instincts and motivations, a creature of the earth who needed to be cloistered and held under a firm hand lest her nature be unleashed.
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Hesiod with his Catalog of Women is as red pill as it gets.
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Link to Amazon?
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Usborne Illustrated Stories from the Greek Myths 2011 ed.
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Gracias
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There’s a great book entitled The Uses of Enchantment, which talks about how fairy tales’s meaning and importance; especially how young kids love them, allowing them to relate to their understanding of the world.
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I’d recommend the Flashman series as well to any 12/13 YO boy. It’s fantastic. Flashman is a counter hero – a liar, a coward, a cheat, a bully and ruthless womanizer who by pure luck becomes a military hero and keeps advancing in rank in the same manner. Totally red pill and some great history as well.
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I took my best friend’s nephew to see “Watchmen” and it had SODOMY in it. It was HORRIFYING to have been entrusted with the boy’s care for the evening and I completely unwittingly walked into an anti-civilizational trap like that.
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Sentient, please explain why you would want a boy to emulate a guy who is a cheat, bully, coward, etc..? What am I missing here?
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You’re screen name is Putin and you need me to explain this?
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“You’re screen name is Putin and you need me to explain this”
Holy Shit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Right, PA, but who’s gonna do it? These are our younger brothers and our sons and our nephews whose hearts and minds and souls are being destroyed by The System. Yeah, it’s great for the older PUAs who can still score fine young snatch on account of rampant effeminization of the 20-somethings. But if a masculine counter-culture doesn’t emerge, and emerge soon, then you can kiss Western Civilization the hell goodbye. There are precious few grains of sand left in the hourglass.
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I cut my teeth reading Edgar Rice Burroughs novels- The Tarzan series, David Innes at the Earth’s Core and the John Carter Martian series. My favorites were the Earth’s Core- novels lots of scantily clad cave Girls and shooting dinosaurs with express rifles i.e elephant guns.
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Mine were the original Hardy Boys series, handed down from my dad and uncle. 1950s hardbacks. God, I loved those books.
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WTF is a dad?
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Greg Eliot may not be your daddy, but you’re certainly his bitch.
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Paul Atreides
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On September 23, 2014, at approximately by 5:58 AM, Debora Vailes re-posted on her personal Facebook page a photograph of a little girl crying because of the shortcomings of Common Core. Later that day, her school principal, Dr. Dana Nolan, after discovering the post, gave Deborah Vailes her first written reprimand and ordered her to refrain from expressing any opinion about public education on social media and to remove her anti-Common Core post from the social media site – ASAP… Two days later, Dr. Nolan held a mandatory faculty meeting of the Pineville Junior high school. She informed the faculty at the meeting that Deborah Vailes was reprimanded due to posting a negative opinion about Common Core on Facebook. Dr. Nolan warned the faculty not to share their personal opinions or speak-out in any way… Dr. Nolan has stripped Debbie Vailes of her responsibilities, and placed her in a job category which, according to Vailes’ colleagues, will be eliminated at the end of the school year resulting in her termination… http://joemiller.us/2015/02/school-prepares-to-terminate-teacher-for-facebook-post-opposing-common-core-curriculum/
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PA, I can tell from your tone of voice that you have no idea how desperate the situation really is. We’re talking about the intellectual equivalent of the White Russians fighting desperately to stop the Bolsheviks from taking over and murdering 10 million Ukrainians in the Holodomor. And, as before, the White Russians have their backs against the wall, and the White Russians are LOSING.
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Wow, what a thundercunt
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which one is white?
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Here, read this- an intellectual history and appraisal of our schooling system. Has its faults as a work, but immensely informative and explains a lot about why schooling is the way it is, and lays out its faults in detail.
http://www.amazon.com/Underground-History-American-Education-Investigation/dp/0945700040
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although CC may have more standardized testing than i’d like, i’m still a strong supporter. it’s good to have some national standard for what students are supposed to know at the end of every grade. otherwise schools in alabama will do away with math and science classes so they afford to build NFL quality practice facilities for the football team.
i got a 4th rate education but lucked into the super-famous college everybody in america wants their kid to attend. and almost flunked out because i was so unprepared. (i test well and on my application i told a good story about my upbringing and there was probably a geographic diversity quota i satisfied.) i needed remedial everything efore i finally figured it out.
when someone attacks CC, i assume that person wants poor kids like me to get crappy educations.
fuck you.
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That’s great to hear, PA. Very cool.
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I find myself re-reading books I’ve read as a child such as the mythology of the Greeks and I can appreciate these books better now than I could then. It’s ironic that the noxious beliefs the left has to include in every movie made nowadays resulted in me actually getting more educated. Since I stopped watching movies, I started reading 100+ pages a day of global literature.
While I’m unsure how this would help in the West, here smart girls appreciate intelligence. For example, on a date I talked with this girl about Wittgenstein’s work because she read some of it. Too bad there aren’t that many intelligent girls here. I guess brothel work is easier and pays better than busting your ass reading to actually be an interesting person and have a real job. lol
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Keep it up. ♥Science♥ says that older men chasing younger women contributes to human longevity and the survival of the species.
http://news.stanford.edu/news/2007/september12/men-091207.html
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If I have a daughter I want her married at 18 to a White man, a greater beta, no younger than 30. This is ideal as she will offer her invaluable youth and beauty in exchange for resources and long-term provisioning.
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Question for nash2z and others:
How do you work the age thing on dating sites?
Because I’d have thought it would instantly DQ a 52 y.o. to 98% of girls the age you’re dating the instant it comes up, but would love to be wrong on this.
I mean, even if you never give them your exact age directly, you have to at least prep them for physical reality at meet-up, no?
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I second that question. Im 46 but look barely 40 and can pull 20somethings in person as easily as any other age group but online the age is front and center and a deal break for most of them.
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You lie about your DOB so you age is younger. However, somewhere in the profile say something like “I never tell my real age”, or “I only lie about my age”. I’ve seen women do it!
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I put my age down as 45, on the site. I never reveal my last name prior to having actually fucked them a couple of times, in order to discourage googling. It also adds to the mystery, and women do love mystery. So far no one has checked. In one case I just flat out lied about my last name, not a bad practice to get into with women as crazy as most of them are.
When we meet, I do look the part, and an careful to maintain the fiction by avoiding talk about my personal life, being circumspect with cultural references that might be viewed as dated, and being up but not too up with modern trends.
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This is a problem. Most online dating sites are not set up for this. Much easier to meet them in person then it is not such an issue.
Online they look at age and picture. I person they start out feeling your vibe and your approach. Still need to look good. Not neccissarily be good looking but look good.
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Don’t put your real age. Girls usually don’t. The 27 year old I was banging put her age down as 30 because she wanted an older dude. When they meet you and you game them, the age thing doesn’t matter.
In person, I’ve gamed and banged a 23 year old, 31 year old and 36 year old…age was never a real factor it was presence and game that drove this.
The way I carried myself, the techniques: neg, tease, push-pull, eye fuck, comfort, rapport, sexual spike etc were drivers and differentiators.
Also observe guys in your social circle. How do they act around girls? Younger guys tend to pedestalize girls or act like “gentlemen” which means white-knighting.
One girl I’m banging says she hates “pussies” when it comes to guys who don’t stand up to her. It means I can push it with the sexualizing comments but she doesn’t want me to be “too nice”…
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“One girl I’m banging says she hates “pussies” when it comes to guys who don’t stand up to her. ”
These girls are amazing fucks from my limited sample size. lol
And the age thing is simple: just lie. When I was 17 and I used to chat to women from other countries a lot instead of going to class, I simply had an age like 79 on my myspace or whatever and I simply joked that that’s my real age because nobody lies online if they asked me how old I really am.
@wala, where did you study bodylanguage? Just observed men in movies and IRL?
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@Pajamas… I worked in the arts for some time so body language was a part of the choreography. But I only started applying and paying attention to it in a game context about 5 years ago.
There are some great explanations here and also on the internet. Try simple things and build from there…
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Take this for what its worth. I went back to college in my late 30s. Found Game and started trying it. Those college years were the best dating years of my life. The oldest girl was 27 and 11 years my junior. The youngest 18 and 21+ years my junior. The girls I went to class with never called me old man or dad or anything like that unless it was flirty.
Fast forward to post graduation, I was dating a 40 year old, just 3 years my junior. She ended up with another 40 year old who attends the same college I went to even for the same major. He was telling me how all the students call him old man, dad, grand pa etc. He could get the 40 year old’s attention but not the 20 year old’s. I could get the 20 year old’s but not really the 40 year old’s. I’m heart broken over that, Really. No. What’s to love about young women?
Game works. The point is not to be a 40 year old trying to act/look like a 20 year old. The boys will beat you every time. Be an INTERESTING 40 year old who dresses well and you’ll do fine.
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Dynamic, Passionate and Authentic – wins at every age. But a couple extra decades of life experience over a 20 dude, it’s miles apart.
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DD good stuff. Do not try to look young. Try to look good. Be who you are and own it. Be the cool mature non needy older man that they are interested in knowing.
The surest way to fail at this is to try to be the young guy. It is the equivalent of the comb over. If you are going bald shave your head or cut it short. Own that shit. Same with your more mature personality.
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“The surest way to fail at this is to try to be the young guy.”
Absolutely. A word to the wise for guys north of, let’s say, 35. In our declining culture, it’s pretty normal for guys of all ages to dress like a bum. Young guys can get away with this to a certain extent, but when an older guy dresses that way, it doesn’t work at all. In addition to looking bad, it can also carry the whiff of trying to be the young guy – even if that’s not at all what the guy is actually trying to do.
This is not to say that you need to walk around in a three-piece suit all of the time (though I used to know a much older guy – probably north of 60 at the time – who actually did this and, believe it or not, it seemed to work), but it does mean that you might want to go out of your way a little bit not to dress in the manner a teenager.
As you say, own it. Any hint of “trying to be the young guy,” and you’re pretty much done. If the girl in question wants a teenager or a frat boy, why would she be interested in you anyway? Know your target market, and play to your strengths.
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I agree with the not try to pretend you’re 20, but you also can’t look like a 40 years old. What you can really do as an older student is be nonchalant. The reality is that what most teenagers and early twenties people don’t know is how irrelevant everything they do is and they keep fretting over nonsensical things. I’m just in my mid 20s and I feel liberated from all of those questions and obligations.
So yes, dress well, maybe a little younger than you are, but don’t adopt teenage fashion and actually have hobbies. If you know how to dance or own a bike or you do anything that is interesting, you can do better than the younger guys. I plan on getting a 2nd graduate degree and a PhD in a foreign country in a few years and I plan on making my 2nd time in life as a student worth it, while being paid to do so!
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Relevant to dating the drama seeking attention whoring prone women:
“YouTube Rape” as in I didn’t know I WAS raped, until my friends, family, school saw it posted, & I decided I’d either been raped or I was a slut.
http://www.avoiceformalestudents.com/regret-is-not-rape-lessons-from-an-old-school-feminist/
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Is it Stig Greybeard’s latin cousin, paying some manlet a visit?
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Protip for those new to online dating: “tired of ________” in her profile means she is bitter and unpleasant, no matter how hot she is and regardless of what fills in the blank, with the exception of something humorous like “justin bieber”
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I’ve seen this also. However, many of these girls are still be good for a same night lay if you sprinkle in a little beta provider game. Just a trail of crumbs, because a little goes a long way…
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They may be adverse to hooking up but if they think you are hot and are horny enough they will still do it. but you have to play it rally cool with them. One tactic I use is working in to the convo somehow a joke about how I never get any. Or its been x months. blah blah blah. This seems to disarm their asd a little. Dont even be directly sexual with her. Just hang out with them and wait for them to get horny or lonely on her own. Then send her a text on new moon and full moon. chances are she might be in the mood during one or both of those times. Push for hanging out, watching tv or a movie or playing puter games.
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As a member of the millennials (barely), I can tell you that it’s most definitely benefitted the masculine among us to have the competition shot to shut by feminism.
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As a millenial (1991) I strongly concur pussy throws itself in front of my feet several times a day tons of girls are orbiting me etc.
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Women want Patriarchy. Offer it.
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Pithy, succinct, and salient.
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Cotw
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@tteclod: Bullseye.
It’s late to add comments to this post, but this field report ties in enough to fit here, I think.
I have started banging another woman who is younger than me. Her ex-husband, from what she described, was a total manboob. They never had children. She was attracted to me when she found out I am a divorced dad, commenting how it shows I’m “a caring guy” (i.e., tingles and moisture).
This began Friday night. I executed all the right Alpha moves…I did all the leading, walking the streets while holding her hand always with mine palm down, hers palm up, etc. When she dropped a teasing shit test on me at dinner, without looking at her, I smirked, grabbed and tickled her armpit, and continued talking as if had brushed off a minor irritation…she laughed with delight. Here, by g-d, was a man who was unafraid to touch her as he pleased.
I bounced her from a bar, to a restaurant, to a café, to a Starbuck’s (it was cold outside that night), ultimately to a bar with live bands. At 6’, I pretty much tower over her (5’4”). Walking in the streets of the city, I pulled her in for our first kiss. During that, we pressed our foreheads together, and she averted her eyes downward while smiling; again, a sign of submission.
I took her home, and I did my ‘usual’, setting us up for sex by the fireplace. Afterwards, we slept upstairs in my bed. Routine game stuff, I know. Stay with me, this where it gets interesting.
The following morning, she hinted at going, so I started getting touchy-feely with her again…back upstairs we went. This time, I had to work a little to strip her naked. She giggled and playfully squirmed away while I did it. Eventually, I had her where I wanted her, kissing her all over. I was about to do her, but she writhed and moaned on the bed, refusing to hold still. Pre-Game Me might have said something like “duh…what are you doing?”
Then she gave me this sexy, sidelong Look. It was only there for a split second, but New And Improved Me got the message right away: The Look said “…the only way you’re going to take me this time is if you’re a bad man…”. Something went off in me. I forced her down, pinning her arms out, like a crucifixion. I got between her legs and entered her like that, in a push-up position. A series of screaming, twitching orgasms followed.
Typically, I get complete submission from a woman. I know this was not extreme sex, but this little episode was so unusual to me. It didn’t seem or feel like she was acting out a role play fantasy. It struck me as a kind of shit test, the subliminal message being: will you take the initiative and dominate me the way I like, or will you wimp out? And as I progress now through a succession of women, I find that they sooo want to be dominated in one form or another. Long live the Patriarchy!
In conclusion, I’m throwing it out there, just out of curiosity; has anyone else experienced anything like this sort of in-bed test for beta?
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Yes. My first go with two women matched this. One required restraints. I married that one.
The process by which we play the field is really a process by which we narrow down options to the best compatibility, or perhaps the best result we can aaccomplishe .
Gentlemen, especially you youngsters, don’t forget the lyrics to that corny old tune: “You gotta know when to hold’em, know when to fold’em, know when to walk away.” There’s eventually a last time you walk away. That time, you take your winnings with you, or you go home broke. Know when to walk away. Don’t walk away broke.
The Patriarchy’s wait’n for you on the flipside. Death in your garden is good.
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yes
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Yep, they really just want to feel overpowered by you, so they have no choice but to submit. Happens to me a lot. That’s where us bigger guys have a natural advantage.
Good catch on the Look. Those subcomms tell the real story.
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That story gave me a boner.
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One thing I do is answer shit tests in a way to make the girl feel indignant and then I tickle her. I sometimes use it as a gauge to see if her indignation is actually real: if she will just laugh like a 7 years old girl, fake indignation; if she protests being tickled much, she hates you. 😛
” It didn’t seem or feel like she was acting out a role play fantasy. ”
It doesn’t feel like that if you actually dominate them and don’t simply have them enact something that turns them on. Basically, you make her feel lust and her sexual submission is the price she has to pay for her lust to be satisfied. Most men probably fail at this because you have to be ready to pull out and pretend you’re just going to stop fucking if she won’t do what you want. If you’re adept, you’ll do this before she’s about to cum and she will cave to pretty much anything you demand. If she won’t cave, I assume she will masturbate furiously while thinking of how much she wants you back in her. It’s a win-win if you have a long term view on these things.
Also, she should do more things to please you in bed than you do for her. Idk how much this works on older women since I didn’t have to deal with them much yet.
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/men/active/mens-health/11425655/Why-do-so-many-middle-aged-men-feel-so-lost.html
attracting a lot of attention so Just gonna leave this here let em know what you think
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I can’t stand reading this propaganda anymore, it makes me sick. Guess it’s the anger phase, still…
I’m supposed to “enjoy the decline”, how so?
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“I feel my generation of men inhabit a place that I call neutered uselessness.”
Egad. This MFers *SHOULD* be killing themselves….
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“And psychological studies (such as a 2013 survey of 10,000 people published in the journal Economica which examined the way in which we adjust to new circumstances) show that women are better able to adjust in the wake of a major life change. In divorce, for instance, women typically come out marginally happier even though they often suffer a bigger financial hit; the Economica survey showed that men tend to be especially badly knocked by unemployment, an effect that persists for up to five years.”
interesting. this makes sense. since the beginning of time, women have been coping with life changes akin to divorce so they are better suited to handle it i think.
used to be a woman would find a man, have kids, he’d go off and die in battle or from an illness or injury on the job or something. another man would probably step in at some point to provide for her and her children but it wouldn’t necessarily be easy. all changes like that are difficult. this might happen several times over a woman’s life span and she’d have to roll with it or she wouldn’t survive.
men on the other hand would usually pick a woman, have kids and have her around until he dies in one of the ways i mentioned before.
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I think it’s related to the fact most women get validation based on their looks while men get theirs based on what they have around them(job, status, money, family etc). A divorce won’t make a woman uglier, but it will destroy the things men get validation from.
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Tellin ya, you’re gonna see a lot more reports like this over the next 10-20 years. The culture is shifting. Reversion Theory in action.
This is just like I described it, the girls WANT an LTR so they try the older guy because logically he should be ready to settle. But, like this guy says, the aren’t marriage worthy yet, the girls don’t know WHAT to bring to the table yet because there’s a societal ban on teaching them that information thanks to feminism.
We’re at the turn of the tide. If you’re in your 20s or early 30s, do NOT settle yet. Keep playing the field. Take care of your body, handle your career, and pick the best girl from your harem to settle with at 40. The <25yo crowd will be jonesin for a cool attractive older man and they'll have figured out they need to hit the gym and learn to cook and land you in their prime.
If you're 30 dating a hot 30yo who doesn't regularly hit the gym and cook for you etc, you're gonna be 35 with a post-wall woman. Your dick will work till 50, that's 15 years of banging old post-wall vag when at 40 you could've found a 23yo girl who looks exactly like her and cooks cleans does squats rejects crazy third-wave feminism etc
We're gonna see a return of "charm school" under a different "empowering" name that's going to teach young women how to be feminine and marriage-worthy. An entire generation of 30+yo feminists will die old and lonely, their spazzing delusional blog articles serving as a warning to future generations of women.
Don't cash out too soon. Go visit a young nightclub and look at your competition. Just a bunch of "gay BFF" boys.
Literally it's like boys have become girls in their energy and vibe and body language and looks etc. all a 21yo girl has experienced is feminine energy. No father in her life, no make teachers growing up, no manly peers, they're just surrounded by feminine and gay BFF energy all the way to 21.
Then you come in and laser her, holding eye contact as you spit some dominant alpha game at her and she's like "omg I don't know what this is I've never felt this before but my gina is tingling when this guy talks to me!!" and it blows her mind because she's never experienced it before.
Your SMV is not only going up but the next gen of boys' SMV is going down making yours even higher relative to them.
I can't wait till 40. It's going to be epic.
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It’s the gabardines we older fellows wear, along with the executive-style hairdo, tailored shirt, and clean, matching shoes and belt. A shiny but masculine watch tops off the ensemble.
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lol gabardines. um … no.
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How bout them gay ass socks with the little built in belt?
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LOL
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Let me add a datapoint – 52 yr old that has bedded a 25 and 27 year old in the last month. A nice run to start 2015. I also look much younger, keep in shape with mma training and other ways. Ex military (seems to add or seriously detract depending on the girl). In both cases I threw out comments that could mean I am a white nationalist, and they both came back. I swear I could hear the hamster running in their pretty little skulls after I made the comments. Their look was precious. Not sure of the correlation here, but I intend to continue with the field experiment, I’ll report back.
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Like what kind of comments? That’s some serious game… Interested in what you attribute the interest to. Was it the danger?
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Contrast. Contrast is alpha. They want want they don’t get a truckload of everyday.
And if you own it – authenticity to boot.
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I’m not to my 30s yet, but I’ve noticed that guys in their 30s who look 6+ and in shape and have 150k+ salaries get pretty much whatever girl they want (obviously need some sort of game knowledge or natural).
But this requires a lot of beta in your 20s.
Someone correct me if I’m wrong
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Get out, talk to women and find out.
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The white nationalist comment struck home.
I just let fly too, they fucking eat it up.
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White nationalist = “I’m a man who can defend the tribe like he’s supposed to. And bonus: I’m automatically a badboy.”
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@corvinus, can? I might be wrong, but most white nationalists are men who whine online. Not much into the defending the tribe thing.
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And most antiWNs snark online from the safety of their keyboards.
You fairy.
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Aw, hell… the browser got me again on the blanked out e-mail and name…
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It’s OK Greggy boy, the “you fairy” gave you up.
I’d encourage you to change it up, branch out. Seems your identity is turning into a prison. So much so that your name is unimportant.
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I’m well-aware, silly Tilli, that my GGR homage is my known shtick, here at the chateau… among others homages to the everyone from GBFM (lzlzlzozlzozlzozlzo) to even the late t-h-w-a-c-k, resurrected as James Blonde (shakin’ mah haid).
Just firing a preemptive strike against the dweebs that would say it was sock-puppeting when Anonymous appears.
You may now return to your previous-scheduled inanity.
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For the record, the post about antiWN snark was directed at PWNinja, not Tili… thought that was obvious, but apparently not.
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I think it just boils down to the fact that all things equal an older man’s frame is much stronger than a young man’s. The experience differential is huge and if you add in a career that requires a strong frame, like attorney or CEO, etc. it becomes even larger.
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What online dating sites do CH fans like?
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Therealworldisoutsideofacomputerscreen.com
Dating sites are generally low return on time investment and not very much fun. They can work, but….used OKC and Match – using the real world now and much happier for it.
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You have it exactly backwards. Dating sites work extremely well, and are more efficient than prowling IRL. But only for those of us with killer photos and well-thought-out profiles.
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Don’t forget meatspace.com
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Dating sites only favor the women. Like cheesetrader said, you’re better off going out, approaching, rinse and repeat.
Of course you can have success with dating sites, but I’d say your energies are better invested going out.
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What energies? I don’t have any photographer friends, but if you have one, you only have to ask them for two hours of their time to take some decent pictures of you(you can go and ask parents in the park to take pics with their kid if you’re not anti-social; this is in the case you want to do the Krauser style pics). Invent some coherent profile description and send it to girls you know and tell them you’ve seen that on a guy’s profile and make a joke about how pathetic it is. If they’ll laugh along with you, it’s shit. If they’ll sort of defend the guy and not join the ridicule bandwaggon, put it on your profile. Bonus: if you know a photographer, ask him if he knows any models you can hire for pics. The odds are, he will know one or two models you could have a drink somewhere with and have your pic taken.
Then come up with a clever line you mass send to ALL women. Then block the ones that answer and aren’t up to par looks wise and continue with the rest. I’m apathetic about online dating because most people I know who tried it say the girls are reluctant to meet, let alone DTF and that they mostly use such sites for validation where I live.
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If you’re looking for top notch quality girls I would do day game and not online.
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As a 50 something who only dates 27 and younger – yes on the observation above. I had one girl actually break up with me b/c she was scared that she wanted to finally be able to have a relationship with a man – but that it wouldn’t go anywhere (She stayed away for about 4 months before coming back)
I love living in the university town.
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@ chessetrader bravo my brother.
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Excellent work, sir. You are an inspiration to us all.
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Well first of all let me say that I consider myself a novice to the game. I am learning and I am getting success but it is slow. Kind of why I am here is to learn.
I have done online game and have gotten quite a few bangs from it 18YO through 31YO. And a couple of mini relationships. But it was a hassle. There were a lot of gold diggers to go through and I had several chicks last year that I literally had them in the hotel room and making out with my hands up their dress and they were stopping me asking for a payday. Thats a whole different kind of LMR. I just let a couple go. Sent them home.
I got tired of this after a while wanting to sharpen my skills and get more of what I wanted when I saw it in the real world. That leaves mostly daygame. I kind of follow HABD and Ya Really’s recommendations. I talk to people wherever I go. In line, in the airport, restaurants, flirt with bartenders, waitresses, retail clerks, hotel lobby bars are a really good place to meet women. Not all of these have been in their 20’s. lol
And to top this off I am an introvert. So 52 years of not approaching has built into me a very strong aversion to this necessary step. But I push myself and I have some good days. I am noticing that more women are giving me IOI’s than I used to get usually older 30’s and 40’s and that is new. I never get a negative reaction, not yet at least.
I travel a lot and that really helps. I can talk to girls in other cities and not see them again for a while. One other thing. Someone once told me that approaching these young girls is more of a fantasy kind of a thing and not a BF type thing. If you approach them like its just for fun a fling something new to try. They are much more likely to respond positively.
I just did a backtrack informal count of my approaches I did this week in my head and it was six solid contacts nothing was over 32. Nothing closed. But that is ok. I will see most of them again soon and will pick up where I left off.
Enjoy the ride. It can be a lot of fun.
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@Reco – hell yes – excellent journey you’re on – and you’ve discovered “patient game” – we older guys can afford to be patient – and that in and of itself can be hugely attractive for the young women we both like so much.
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Patience communicates as abundance mentality and non-neediness. Catnip.
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Went through a similar journey and I found my whole life improved 200%. Away from women I was more engaged in my work, getting fit, more confident in general, had alot more males friends wanting to hang out with me, negotiated a pay increase beyond my expectations. The trick for me is not validation from women that is merely the icing on the cake it is all about enjoying life and self improvement.
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@Reco It’s easy to practice on girls when you go out. I try all sorts of things.
The age thing is more about how you carry yourself. If you look like a “dad”…you’re shot. If you dress more cool, and keep yourself in good shape you can practice the techniques until they become part of you and then you’re naturally more confident. No one is “born” with confidence.
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“If you look like a “dad”…you’re shot. If you dress more cool…”
I agree, you can’t look like a “dad.” But you also can’t look like you’re trying to be the young guy.
The older man is offering something different, and his appearance should signal that at a glance.
I’d be curious as to what older guys here find to be the most effective third way.
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@Trainspotter….I’m in shape and slim so that shaves off some perceived “age”.
Fatter guys tend to look older.
Also, the clothes—I wear more classical clothes: jeans, fitted shirts, cuffs, tailored suits…
Also, go where younger girls go—salsa nights. This gets a bad rap but I suspect that’s because most guys can’t or won’t dance. This is a natural interaction with women who if you’re not creeping them out by hovering will pass through a few of the escalation ladder stages naturally.
You’re already kino-ing them. Negs, teasing, push-pull…eye contact.
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Some posts still in mid related to the fantasy thing. CH?
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I started talking to people everywhere too. I make it a point to say hi/bye to the employees of the establishments I patronize and it’s amusing but they’re actually happy to see me now. There were these two cuties giving free stuff at the supermarket and when they were about to offer me one of those wee sandwiches, I pointed somewhere and said ‘check that out’ and stole a sandwich when they were looking to the big nothing I pointed towards. That made them laugh out loud.
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They eat this kind of stuff up. Their lives are so boring most of he time. Also physical escalation is so important. Just the simple act of touching the waitress when she comes to your table is strong stuff.
You can actually see the change in her demeanor. She will sometimes even start to lean into your touch on her arm or back after you do it a couple of times in a row. She will soften and look in your eyes more.
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http://news.yahoo.com/hungarys-premier-rejects-immigration-multicultural-society-160801932.html
Signs of sanity. Maybe visionaries like Krzysztof Kieslowski were right after all and the spark of rebirth will come from Eastern Europe.
Now the most important thing for Hungary’s political class is to stand firm. Do not backtrack. You have nothing to gain and everything to lose by giving the enemy an inch.
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Absolutely. Our enemies are vicious and shameless liars. When they are on top, they love to lord it over us. But when faced with real opposition, they will pretend to be interested in reasonable compromise. They will feign moderation, and that they seek “only X” or “only Y,” nothing more. Please, be reasonable! Why do you persecute me so?!?
We’ve seen this pattern in the United States for decades. When the immigration floodgates were opened, whites were assured that the ethnic composition of the nation would not be seriously altered. Very little would actually change. But now? They gloat about our impending minority status. The mask starts to come off.
When the “civil rights” campaign was in full swing, whites were assured that it had nothing to do with miscegenation, or really anything other than giving blacks a fair shake. Whites were assured that little would change, except that a wrong would be righted. Now, of course, miscegenation is promoted non-stop, huge numbers of white women are literally afraid to admit in public that they only want to date white men, job and educational discrimination against whites is massive, violent crime against whites is endemic. Countless white neighborhoods and schools have been destroyed. And our overlords relish rubbing our noses in all of it.
These are not “nice” people. They aren’t reasonable people, or even misguided people. They are vicious, hate-filled liars. When they pretend to be something else, it’s just a ruse.
Hungary, and the rest of Europe, should learn from the disaster unfolding here. Give the anti-whites an inch, and it’s just a matter of time before they destroy your entire society, and every last Hungarian in it.
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to favor the much older man/younger woman pairing.
I have to agree. I’ve definitely noticed that a LOT of the women I tend to interact with on more than a ONS type of relationship, are more than willing to bring me to interactions with their friends. To a certain extent this is worrisome, as I like to be their “dirty little secret”, and when they take you home to meet their family, they are following the script for a LTR. But that is fine as long as they do it on my terms.
Two of the three women in my “core” group – the ones I see regularly – have started to bring other women to my bed. And obviously have let it be known that they have no expectations of fidelity on my part, but have told me in no uncertain terms that they only want me. Now to a certain extent this is because the one that adopted this approach has been with me the longest – but one of the others has seen it as a “winning” approach and is following the same script.
I suspect shows like “sister wives” – at least I think that is what it is called – is showing that this is more and more the “norm” where women understand that to get a man worth their time requires they change their approach, and that “marriage” is what people consider it to be. Heck, one of the women in my core group has been with me for four years – that is longer than many marriages last these days.
I don’t know how long the present market place will favor me, but I will enjoy it for as long as possible. Well, I have to get out of here. But I wanted to respond before heading down to set up for the evening.
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Super loaded old dudes withstanding, I really have a hard time believing the whole: “im 50 and dating a 20 year old” shtick.
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How old are you? You see it more as 50-yr-old men creep into your social circle. If you’re under 25, you probably won’t hear about it. Girls keep that shit locked down.
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Yup and that’s perfectly okay. I’ve no need to go hang out with my girl and her besties – that shit is dull.
For Adwokat – something to consider – this is a game blog and there’s some selection bias going on – the older guys like myself and Reco are here because we enjoy game and we enjoy dating girls in their 20s. However, we’re a minority amongst our peers – you’ll see a higher % of guys like us here than you will in the real world – most of our peers are either married or trying to date 40 something battleaxes or have simply given up.
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True. Girls do keep it locked down. If you’re 50 plus and dating 20 something’s its gonna be a fling more than likely.
I want to say the dating sites work great. Good photos, check. Most important tho, is good text game. That’s how you flip them from the app to the phone, and from the phone to your bed.
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“I’m 60 and dating a 28 year old”. Does that work any better for you?
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…..and thats why you lose to em 😉
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A lot of things are inconceivable when you’re in your twenties
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Just keep telling yourself that it’s all about money, looks and age with women – and when your 50 – you’ll kick yourself over all the opportunities you left on the table … Opportunities that my 5 decades knows how to seize. THAT is why chicks dig experience, amigo.
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These old fuks are delusional, the only ones dating HOT 20 somethings are millionaires and even then the girls fuck younger alphas behind his back. The rest are possibly dating but it’s 4-6/10’s. (Note; this is a general rule I’m sure there is the rare older guy not rich but very alpha dating hotter younger women.)
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This just shows your ignorance. Funny how you know my situation even the girls attractiveness On A 1 to 10 scale. Lol. I remember when I was In My twenties and I knew everything. Lol then I grew up.
Money has little to do with it unless you make it about money. I never give any of my girls money or gifts or trips etc.
And if they are keepin this locked down which is usually the case. It is you who is getting cuckolded.
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that’s not exactly true. you don’t have to be a millionaire to get cute young ones if you’re older. some young girls do like older men for the novelty of it. these aren’t wife/mother/LTR situations mind you but there’s nothing wrong with enjoying it for what it is.
you are right to some extent. i don’t think i’d call it dating in most cases either. i don’t doubt that some of these guys are banging these girls short term but they aren’t keeping them around so they don’t really count as real relationships in my opinion. but as i said, nothing wrong with enjoying it for what it is.
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Hey Uncle Reco keep saying Lol
Lol exudes your masculinity and makes me rethink my statement
Lol
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Refer to CH’s SMV for males regarding money and career….
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Hey little boy. Lol don’t worry about addressing my issues. Just make fun of of my use of lol
That’s the sound of someone losing. Lol
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Peppering texts or posts with “lol” reeks of conversational “nervous laughter”… definitely a bad habit for a man… leave that stuff to the girls.
GBFM has shown us the way on that score: if you must, use lzlzozlzozlzozlzozlzozlzolzozlozlozlozlzolzol instead.
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I’d love to hear some “Old Man Game” field reports.
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@Anon..“I’d love to hear some “Old Man Game” field reports”
How about an “Older Cad Game” FR from a few weeks ago…
(Warning… Those with short attention spans, scroll on)
Chick squeezes in at the bar next to me and orders a bottle of white for her and her two girlfriends that are sitting on the other side of the room. Eye contact, hair flick, smile (I must stop doing that) plus she came the long way around to get served next to me. (4 IOIs.. Going in)
Cad: Hey… Don’t you know it’s rude to order wine in a cocktail bar.
HB: Really…why’s that?
Cad: Because these guys are artists. Imagine you trained at cocktail school for 5 years, getting beaten every day, before you’re allowed to work here and then someone comes in and orders a bottle wine!
HB:LOL… but I like wine.
Cad: LOL.. That’s not the point… If Picasso knocks on your door, you wouldn’t ask him to paint your bathroom, would you?
Bar Man: (LOLing as he hands her the bottle)
HB: LOL.. Now you’ve made me feel bad ( mock sad face)
Cad: Cad…and you are? (Holding out hand)
HB: HB (hand shake)
Cad: (picking up her bottle and studying the label) Did you know…. in some cultures it is considered good luck, if when opening a new bottle of wine, you give the first glass to a stranger.
HB: LOL… Is that so…lol… You’ll have to come and ask them (pointing to her friends)
Cad: (Ignoring invite) 26 right?
HB: No..21
Cad: LOL…
HB: what’s funny?
Cad: I thought you were older.
HB: Really?
Cad: Fuck I just realised… you’ve only been an adult for 3 years LoL…Pity.
HB: Why pity?
Cad: Because it never works.
HB: What never works?
Cad: Me and 21 year olds.
HB: LOL
Cad: I know what your thinking and yes, the sex is always great… but then they always get upset.
HB: LOL.. why’s that?
Cad: Because whatever we talk about afterwards, I’ll always be right and you’ll always be wrong and you will get frustrated… I’ll laugh and you’ll get upset… I’ll laugh even harder, you’ll get angry and we’ll probably end up having angry sex. Which will be hot… but then we’d talk… I’ll be right again…. and that’s pretty much how we would keep going until I get bored and end up dumping you for an older woman.
HB: LOL.
Cad: (getting a cigarette out) And that’s why this will never work. (Put a napkin over my drink and head outside for a smoke).
Walking back in… I get a wall of IOIs from all three, who are looking me over and giggling…. Ended up bouncing them all around some of my favourite bars… but alas no SNL (Isolation failure + over gaming = Wicked C/B)… Was a fun night though… number exchange+smooch.
(However, the preselection of leading 3 chicks around my usual watering holes, laughing at every word I said, did help me bang a chick I’d been planning on banging for some time)
MC
PS. “I like this guy. He reminds of me…. when I was young and stupid” is my standard comeback to jealous younger AFCs attempting a C/B.
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There are already lots of old guy field reports… I’m 47, Walawala, reco, immoralgables, Buena Vista, Laguna beach fogey etc etc. All 40 plus.
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When I was a senior in HS, my classmates kept rambling to me about how cute my father. He had a beat down shit car I refused to drive despite being allowed to do so whenever I wanted(yes, a teenager preferring mass transit to how bad that car was lol). What he does have is a brilliant personality when it comes to teasing, joking around etc.
He met most of my classmates throughout a week during which me and them had to take some national tests. My dad was in his 50s then. I so wish I would have inherited his expansive personality instead of my mother’s introverted and thoughtful nature.
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I’m actually going to agree with @Hugh miron.
99 times out of 100 a 20s (especialllyyyy young 20s) aged girl will be creeeeeped the fuck out if a 50s guy tries to get sexual with her.
Unless it’s cempletely different wherever you live lol.
I know of it happening ONCE my whole live dude was 55 and girl was around 29 and they worked in the same office and he was the alpha in the office and made 200k +.
That’s typically the situation you will see it in. And that’s not very common either
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And @mischievious cad.
That was a field report that could’ve been dumbed down to: talked to a 21 year old games her for a little got her drinks then parted ways.
I was thinking 50s men having sexual relationships with 20s girls
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Why? Back up your statement.
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I dont doubt older guys are getting bangs and flings out of young girls but I dont think most young girls are actively seeking out a dude two and a half times their age or more. Plus online girls are a different ball game. Most online chicks tend to be lower quality…theres usually a reason why they resorted to online dating in the first place….At best older guys are a novelty to those who are into that.
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All right man let’s parse out what you are going on about:
“I don’t doubt older guys are getting bangs and flings out of young girls “
OK then. So you don’t doubt it. That’s the thing about reality, it’s gonna happen regardless. So as demonstrated here, many times, older guys are totally banging young girls, like 20+ year younger girls. You agree.
“I don’t think most young girls are actively seeking out a dude two and a half times their age or more.”
And they are not. Just like they aren’t seeking out poor, short chubby guys. However what girls say they want – and what blue pill guys think girls want – has no relation to guys that girls actually fuck. Why? Game, in a nutshell.
There is no young guy or old guy game per se. There is just game. And tight game, regardless of the age of the protagonist, is tight game. Just like tight game is tight game in the hands of a poor, young, short, chubby guy.
If you are actually out picking up women, you can see the moment when they “turn on”, it’s a visible physical response. It’s observable. And it really doesn’t matter who the guy is on the end of that gaze, the fact is HE, young or old, rich or poor, ugly or handsome, ripped or chubby, has turned HER on.
And that is that. In summary, girls are not turned on by what guys think turns them on or what they will post on instagram or pinterest or posters on the walls of their room… They are turned on by a dominant male frame.
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It happens. It’s not the norm, but okay? Alphas aren’t the norm, either.
It’s not the money. It’s really simple. If you live for 50 years as a man, you will have been exposed to more shit and you will become less rattled. You will be more solid in yourself and whatever frame you project, all else equal, than a younger man.
Think about it: married guys are more attractive, fathers are more attractive, dudes with money are more attractive, etc. etc. => life experience. Women like guys who have been through life and experienced it.
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You may not want to hear it but it’s true: I’m 50 and my current GF is 25, and hot. I never date older than 30. Cheers.
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I ran one cross-country race at the state level.
I swam at a couple state meets.
My husband walks faster than I can.
And I love it.
I once got a 700 on my verbal SAT.
I finished my masters at 22.
My husband’s genius blows me out of the water. And I love it.
I studied in Europe for a semester.
I traveled alone through foreign countries in the middle of the night.
My husband has lived on twice as many continents as I have.
And I love it.
Anything I can do, he can do better.
He can do anything better than me.
Part of that’s because he’s amazing;
part’s cause when I was born he was twenty-three 🙂
And I love it.
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Very charming.
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I’m 6’3 and usually the tallest guy in a social situation. For once I’ve gotten a chance to see how people feel around me – there’s a new guy in our social group – taller than me at 6’7ish and muscular. Every time there’s a get together in a mixed setting (group of guys and girls I mean), he always places his hands right on top of my shoulder and talks to me. It’s definitely an AMOG type behavior and I don’t like it, but I’m not sure how to get him to stop doing it without seeing reactive or petty. I pretty much just try to stay out of arm’s length of the guy now… I mean he’s a decent guy and definitely has some game. I just don’t like being 2nd best.
Any tips?
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Everytime he does it. With a big smile and looking right in his eyes and put your hand on top of his head.
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Yeah. Keep an open stance, hands on your hips and maintain eye contact – If he’s doing the talking and holding your shoulders – it’ll appear beseeching – like he needs your approval for something. Then walk up to the hottest chick in the party and say – ‘My friend over there thinks your cute but he’s too shy … You’ve approached, disqualified yourself and now you can run match-maker game on her … you short, sneaky mudder-fugger.
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ask him questions that will evoke yes responses but do it in respectful, non-challenging way. Getting a series of yes responses builds compliance momentum making it easier for you to continue leading the interaction. Even if you get a few nos then he’s still falling into your stronger frame just by providing answers (i.e. he’s reacting to you). Either way you’re leading the interaction and it should have the effect of raising your value so he relates to you on equal ground. Wouldn’t hurt to have an audience for this. Also look up Yes Ladder.
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+1.
And other posts in mod for a while it seems.
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They also like older men because it opens another world for them. We’ve already experienced most of what she has yet to imagine and have discovered a lot more cool stuff, interesting people, etc along the way.
Nullifying a 25 year age difference can be like a minefield. You definitely have to lead the interaction more, and usually (but not always) have to establish more comfort than a younger guy would. And her responses (good or bad) must have ZERO effect on your sense of self worth and ZERO effect on your frame.
If she shows interest in a much older man then she assumes or (hopes) that he is confident, has direction in life, and is capable of and will lead the interaction If she finds him lacking in these traits then he gradually morphs into a non-sexual entity, just like one of her dad’s boring friends. If he shows any lack of impulse control, neediness,or seeks rapport too soon then he instantly morphs into a creepy old perv.
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will look into this, thanks
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“Any tips?” Yes when a guy does something like that to me I do the “Bill Murray”. Just grab his love handles in a semi gay way. It will cause a recoil relfex.
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Put your hand on his ass.
There’s actually some truth to that. Why does it matter? If it didn’t matter, you wouldn’t care.
The only reason he’s doing it is he’s insecure about his height (6’7 is huge) and is trying to make contact. I’m 6’4 and 200# and I never do dumbass AMOG shit like that.
When he puts his hand on your shoulder, smile sweetly at him and slide over like he’s your protective boyfriend. Put your hand around his waist. Tell him how good it feels to have his hand on your shoulder.
Or put your hand on top of his, on your shoulder. Look at him adoringly.
He won’t do it again.
Or just flat out ask him why he’s touching you. Tell him it’s cool, but you want him to know you’re not gay.
It really doesn’t matter what you do. When your frame is solid, nothing matters.
I fucking hate it when guys do these cheap attempts at dominance. You’re either dominant or you aren’t, and where you put your hand doesn’t have shit to do with it.
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@ShrtstStrw
“I fucking hate it when guys do these cheap attempts at dominance. You’re either dominant or you aren’t, and where you put your hand doesn’t have shit to do with it.”
the worst is when they butcher a handshake by trying to squeeze your fingers…is nothing sacred?
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Agree and amplify is so hilarious because it works with just about everything. In this case, it’s misconstrue and amplify though.
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What I would do is I’d say “dude, get your hands off my shoulders.” See if that works.
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“Dude, not without dinner and a few drinks, I’m not that type of guy”. Say it half jokingly and then laugh it off. Say it right and it’s actually not very confrontational at all, and the subtle gay insinuation about him will back him the hell off.
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6’7″ Guy AMOGing you? When he puts his hand on your shoulder, slip towards him under it, put your arm around his upper torso, and rest your head on his shoulder.
Then say “I love how ALPHA (6’7″ guy) is!!”
He will stiffen in horror, everyone will howl.
Doubt he’ll do it again, and you’ve got a friend instead of a competitor.
To be a source of amusement is an honor.
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break his legs
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Tell him that you’re flattered by his advances, but you just don’t swing that way. lol
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One major disadvantage of 20-something girls is that 99% of them have vandalized their bodies with tattoos. Plenty of 40-plus women haven’t abused themselves like that.
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Yep on the tats. Disagree over 40 can be useful.
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Sad times in this way
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This thread is as good as any to be reminded of a great classic:
“Young girl, get out of my mind
My love for you is way out of line” …
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“Have Some Madeira, M’Dear” is more to the point.
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Heh, heh… antepenultimate… great word, I’ll have to find occasion to throw that one around. 😉
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Wet bus stop, she’s waiting
His car is warm and dry
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… daddy says she’s too young
But she’s old enough for me
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Just like that book by Nabokov!
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“…better run, girl
You’re much too young, girl.”
(disqualification game)
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I’m a 27 year old beta. Recently lucked into a relationship with a non-fat 18 year old. My coworkers wonder why I’ve been walking around with a Cheshire Cat grin these last few weeks.
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Ive been on tinder for about 5 days now. And I live in a pretty big city in the U.S.
Anyways I haven’t seen (through all of my left and right swipes) one 8 or higher. Maybe 3 from the 200 swipes. So whoever is applauding tinder is wrong (at least in my book) ha.
But side note: I did go on a date with a 7 and we venue bounced and then had sex like 3 times back at my apartment (this is first meet 3 days after I downloaded the app) so yes quick hook ups are possible, but the girls are pretty much broke
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And it was way easier than night game (but she was a 7)
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The Sons of Putin will lead the white race to the future. May God help us all..
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Me likes.
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Vlad has two daughters.
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However, I have come to see why the Russian/ Orthodox Church will be the savior of Christianity in the end times. It’s all unfolding as predicted.
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Christianity is what originally made white men go beta i.m.o.
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Tell that to the Normans.
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And the Franks… then again, I belief William The Conqueror was a grandson or some relation to Karl Der Grosse (Charlemagne, to you Frankophiles).
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Would agree Carlos
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Yeah, Slavic culture is a real model. I love the girls, just try to make sure you clear the victim’s bodies off the sidewalks near the White House.
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Joan Rivers, Larry Sinclair, Michael Breitbart…. I’d say they have less blood on their hands than your DL hero.
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According to OKCupid, Indian men have the lowest response rate of all races. Indian men get an even lower response rate than Asian/Orientals.
Even Indian-Paki women give a low response rate to Indian men.
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I wonder how Caribbean Indian (“west indies”) men fare.
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They’re black, I believe.
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Brown chicks sure like sleeping with the white male patriarchy. Whuddup widdat, dawg?
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Brown people in general act like they are desperate to be ruled over by Whites.
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Can’t have an advanced technological society without us.
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You can’t have oil to run it without sucking Islamic cock.
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…i didnt say black. I said Caribbean Indians. You ignorant fucking retard.
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…i didnt say black. I said Caribbean Indians. You ignorant fucking retard.
Arawaks are extinct, bub.
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@James, sure we can. We could invade the Middle East, kill every single brown person there, crucify their royal families for giggles and then take every single drop of oil. The fact we don’t is just out of magnanimity.
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or you enjoy Saudi cock?
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White’s are in demand !
With the cocksize i have few women think older men have more masculine traits.
Quite the opposite, the old “get married” boys are the opposite of masculine, how many more times does it need to be pointed out that MARRIAGE and LTR are beta-male prerogatives, dudes with scarcity mentality who need to pin down a women for the long haul because they have no options.
The advent of sluttery and porn has awoken the sleeping giants among men, and vastly larger shares of the us of the millennium generation aspire to be the most Alpha we can make ourselves, young women of high SMV always tell me that though the average guy is more effeminate nowadays, the ratio’s of very masculine men has risen too, society is polarizing in terms of Alpha/Beta.
This post talks about girls’ ages who seek old guys, but doesn’t mention their SMV, they’re likely to be rejects.
The problem with multiculti is that undesirable are no longer relegated to fapping and dying off, now the rejects from every group are pairing up to spawn beta-offspring.
This is a problem, a big problem.
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Interesting perspective. Although your c@ck size has little to do with getting them into bed in the first place. But I do think you have touched on some valid points Darius. So what you think is that most 20 somethings are creep-ed out by a 50 year old and that only the rejects go for them?
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If I had to choose five songs as best in rock history, it would be a tough one. But if under pressure and without a whole lot of time to think about it, I’d pick:
– Lynyrd Skynyrd “Tuesday’s Gone”
– Pink Floyd “Wish you were here”
– Boston “Amanda”
– ABBA (TBD)
– U2 (TBD)
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What are your “pick then now” five?
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Great topic, too many for me to try and choose from.
It is my opinion that 77-80 was the Cambrian explosion for rock. Think about how many bands were in their prime during that time. Love a good guitar riff.
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Tuesday’s Gone is solid, but my favorite Skynyrd tune is “Simple Man.”
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Ballad of Curtis Loew!
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Rolling Stones “Stray Cat Blues”
Donovan “Hurdy Gurdy Man”
Pentangle “Sovay”
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Donovan wrote some great stuff. Mellow Yellow and Atlantis are also great songs. Good selection.
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“If I had to choose five songs as best in rock history . . . under pressure and without a whole lot of time to think about it . . .”
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Do you think that’s very likely to happen?
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Well James, what would you pick?
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Stooges- Gimme Danger, Funhouse, Dirt, Down in the Street, 1970, 1969, I Wanna be Your Dog, Search and Destroy, Sick of You
Monster Magnet- Space Lord, and anything else.
Hawkwind- Master of the Universe
PA, those last 3 bands are gay. I would never admit to even listening to Abba, much less liking them and I am fully aware of how iconic they were in Europe during the 70s.
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ABBA: gotta add a touch of yin to rock’s yang. Think of them as Beach Boys meets Fleetwood Mac. U2: yes, figuratively very gay non-musically speaking but as artists they did tap into something very resonant with the Northern soul. Its the Celtic roots. The list of five is self-evidently very limiting and for example, I was unable to represent my favorite genre, Grunge in my off the cuff list.
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Yeah, but would there ever have been an ABBA had there not been a Howlin’ Wolf?
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All seriousness aside, if you can respect the aft and craft of the “pop tune”, then Benny, Bjorn and company were the conductors of the master class.
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I will concede those points. Mama Mia killed ABBA for me. I was angry when I left the theater after watching that piece of trash. I wanted my money and my two hours back. Then when Bjorn was going around with his pro-atheism campaign as a Richard Dawkins stooge a few years back, it was the icing on a bad cake.
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Yeah, the stage play Mamma Mia was a feminist wet dream…
… but you can’t blame B & B of ABBA for that, they didn’t write the story… it was a take off on a Gina Lollabriggida film from the sixties, Buona Sera, Mrs. Campbell.
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Sure I can. They obvously liked that plot line and used it for their POS extravaganza. What artists say and do colors whether I like them or not. I won’t listen to the Clash either because they’re commie POS too.
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I’ll blame ’em for Chess… but I think Mssrs. B & B were all-too-happy to collect a payday on Mamma Mia without having to do any work.
It was a songwriter’s wet dream, and having gone through the bitch-divorce thing themselves, I doubt they gave a rat’s ass about the details of story that someone pasted atop their music.
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What about Jane’s Addiction, Stone Temple Pilots, Soundgarden, shit like that? That shit is raw son
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They’re ok. None of them are as good as the Stooges or Monster Magnet. All of them borrow heavily from the Stooges. Are you 80 or something? You’re not fit to be my father, little boy.
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Anyone who doesn’t put Won’t Get Fooled Again in their Top Five list of greatest rock songs has an opinion unworthy of consideration.
And for all fellows waxing poetically in re the Stooges, I’ve got two words for you:
Velvet Underground
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Grossly over rated. They made about two albums that were any good. Those were only half filled with good Songs- Venus in Furs, Heroin. I’m at a loss for more great songs by them of the same caliber the Stooges put out on every record they made. John Cale was a chump lefty who secretly wished he was a soldier. Lou Reed was a sodomite. Not even close. Nico was just whacked out, if hot in her day. I saw her play the 930 club in DC in the early 80s and she was completely zoned out. Everything the Stooges did was awesome. They burned oh so brightly and so fast.
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VU are grossly over rated. They only have about 3 songs that aren”t total noise.
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Your opinion, fair enough… the minority opinion is always given its say up to and including the Supreme Court. lzozlzozlzozlzolzolzozl
One music pundit once said: “The Velvet Underground’s first record only sold 30,000 copies… but every one of those buyers started a band.”
For that matter, look up what your vaunted Stooges and Iggy Pop (as well as dozens of other (ahem) icons) had to say about Lou Reed and company.
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my personal ‘faves’ as opposed to some sorta objective ‘best-five’ that i could never, ever summon:
1) Jimi Hendrix, ‘Who Knows?’
2) Rolling Stones, Dance Little Sister
3) Rolling Stones, If You Can’t Rock Me
4) Public Enemy, Black Steel in the Hour of Chaos
5) Rolling Stones, Beast of Burden
(I could never create a list like this that would have any true sense of personal permanence; this list is more like a analyzed projection onto a figurative past youth.,. or something like that…)
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I think it is fair to say that most men in the armed forces are beta. Their women cheat on them at a very high rate. They need to consantly validate their decisions with group think. They are scared to think for themselves or challenge conventional wisdom.
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But they’re also cheating on their women. The Military has a lot of real men too. Remember, you become a man. Most 18 year olds aren’t there yet. People who haven’t served and talk shit about the military are pussies.
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So?
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I agree w/Putin
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So?
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If their women cheat, it’s two-fold, not necessarily related to alpha/beta:
a) extended absence of their men… alas, Penelope is a character in a 1200 year old story.
b) many “military wives” begin as camp followers around military bases, and are not the always the best of beginning stock for LTRs.
And the general population is guilty of needed to “validate decisions” or not challenging “conventional wisdom”… a more heinous sin in that milieu than the quite-necessary-and-understandable military environment that requires quick obedience to executive decisions, if the unit is to survive.
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Add two millennia for Penelope. Our roots are deep.
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Duh on me, I was thinking 1200 BC, Fall of Troy or thereabouts, not 1200 years ago.
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Interesting question. Historically war was the most manly thing a man could do. It is something women are very bad at (I’m talking fighting and killing, not verbal sniping). In many, many cultures, a man wasn’t considered a man without being able to fight in battle.
As for ‘scared to think for themselves’, every soldier thinking for himself is how a unit gets killed. War requires rapid, coordinated action, and that means unquestioning obedience to a leader.
Still, the military is full of poor people who join because they have no better options, and there probably are a lot of betas in there. Any of whom could mostly kick most non-military men’s asses in a fight, of course.
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The Army and Marines together have about 625,000 members and about 15% are women. Any pool of that many men between the ages of 18 and 45 will be primarily betas, just as in the civilian world. I served 4 years and was an officer. In my unit, we had guys who could slay pussy with the best of them on this thread and we had guys who were absurd caricatures of betas. Some guys were straight out of Beetle Bailey. Most were regular men. The military takes boys and turns them into men. A combat unit is a blue collar environment and the men are, for that reason, pretty tough and resilient despite being betas, just like in the real world. Red pill knowledge is not mainstream, so those who slay pussy likely are naturals versus having a learned skill, which is what is taught here. Most of you just talk lots of shit and deep down feel a sense of failure for not having served. I see this all the time in my private life. In any event, I’d rather have any one of them watching my back than someone who places hos over bros. Pussy is good and it is important in life but it is not as important as having good character and honor, which the military still teaches. You won’t get those lessons from the cultural Marxist sewers we have these days. Nor will you learn those critical infantry skills you will soon be needing. Repeat after me: Bros before hos, Bros before hos, bros before hos. Got it?
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“Any of whom could mostly kick most non-military men’s asses in a fight, of course.”
Yes, but they’re too busy obeying commands like good dogs, which isn’t something alpha men do. Anybody under the rank of captain in the military is a boot licking sucker.
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Let me guess… you got drummed out of Basic for not wanting to wake up at 5:00am and clean all those icky commodes?
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And of course, they just hand out captain ranks to the manor born. (((shakin’ mah haid)))
How do you think one makes captain and higher, fool?
The military maxim… and it applies in the working world in many cases as well, especially those well-known ‘dangerous’ jobs… is that in order to give men orders, you first have to learn to follow orders from men.
Only spoiled little dweebs would disparage that reality.
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How’s that surprising? Unless you’re attracted to sucking the dick of your superiors whenever they ask you to, you aren’t attracted to a modern military life. Maybe the military helps you become a man once you get out of it, but making yourself cannon fodder and the plaything of your superiors betrays not only that you’re beta, but also a high dose of imbecility.
The only people who aren’t fools in a Western military are those who are in them for the money. E.g. the US military career is pretty lucrative, especially with the super early retirement. this is mostly because the overall US economy is garbage though.
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Says the homoerotic projector who wouldn’t last two days in boot camp.
What is it with you dweebs and your attempts to Cathedral shame with your own fantasies about sucking dick?
Is that something along the lines of like when a faggot accuses others of like tendencies when said others call him out on his swinery?
Take a hike, fool.
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To connect with much younger women: Be at least semi-famous in real life, be fascinating in real life, bring social proof like a train, and inspire a belief among them that you are genuienley unique (and that they are not).
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Yeah I cant imagine charles manson did much listening to his sluts. Or genghis kahn. Or henry kissinger
But as the old saying goes, there’s more than one way to skin a woman alive and consume her exposed muscle fibres.
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In other words dynamic pasionate and authentic. This works at any age btw.
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Get texts that say -from hotties – ” I am desperately afraid of losing you”. Or find your better game.
There is no “Try”.
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This is the end..
My beautiful friend;
My only friend…
The END.
Jim Morrison — A Fully paid up member of the 27 club….
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How is this anonymous troll site still alive?
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Why are you still alive?
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It’s because the prices are I-N-S-A-N-E!!!
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[…] One Reason Younger Women Like Older Men | Chateau Heartiste […]
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Even you Yankees need to learn the lyrics to this song. It’s your fight now too.
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[…] Commenter nash2z writes, [The sexual marketplace] is beginning to favor the much older man/younger woman pairing. I will illustrate. […]
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http://jezebel.com/the-greatest-pick-up-move-youve-ever-attempted-1688537869
I think you guys need to get over there and subvert this. This truly needs a shiv or sixteen. Play it straight–just get over there and talk about your pickup moves. I’m sure they’ll appreciate it.
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http://www.boredpanda.com/plus-size-celebrities-david-lopera/
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Hot bitch strongly and repeatedly agitates for a beta orbiting acquaintance of hers to commit suicide. He does it, and she publicly weeps crocodile tears (tweeting “Such a beautiful soul gone to soon” and #WeCanEndSuicide).
Police read his phone and find that the bitch repeatedly and insistently cajoled him to commit suicide and hurry up and get on with it.
http://gawker.com/teen-charged-for-allegedly-urging-friend-to-kill-himsel-1688639914#
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It sets a dangerous precedent when they can hold you responsible for someone else’s susceptibility to suggestion.
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I agree with that. She’s a vile person but I don’t necessarily want the gubmint involved. I just think it’s instructive to see (again and again) the utter ruthlessness that women exhibit to beta men. She wanted him to commit suicide so that she could gain “suicide survivor” victim status.
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I don’t think this is a new law or even application of it. I believe incitement to suicide has been a crime for a long time actually. It’s not prosecuted much because it’s difficult to prove. Since they had her texts, she left a lot of evidence and a good audit trail.
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No no women a r e perfect angels.
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It has nothing to do with women being angels, nor am I defending this little cooze…
… it has to do with being governed subjectively, whenever someone in power gets pissed.
We’ve all told someone to go jump in a lake, and worse, in the heat of the moment.
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Incitement to murder is a crime and has also been a crime for a long time. I would venture to say it is even based in English Common Law.
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We’re well aware of that. Incitement to any felony is a crime… and yes, technically-speaking, suicide is against the law.
But my original point still stands… subjective enforcement of the law.
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If it had been your kid who killed himself, you would think much differently. I hope she does time and is raped daily by she boons.
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And if Trayvon had been your kid, you would have hoped Zim got the same?
(((shakin’ mah haid)))
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I’d like to believe I’m above such solipsism… I don’t deal in “if it happens to me, this… if it happens to you, that.”
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…several crimes hold individuals responsible for ‘another’s susceptibility to suggestion.’
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I don’t think it’s so much selective as the evidence is readily at hand. This was far more egregious and many degrees greater than telling someone to go jump in a lake. It was a systematic and repeated effort recorded for posterity. That’s the principle difference here. Women get away with so many lies and deceptions in our legal system, I’m glad to see one called out on it.
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I understand the desire for revenge and justice… especially in re the spoiled princesses of the West.
But damn, some teenaged cooze shoots off her mouth and the Darwin Award takes effect on some poor schlub?
Sounds like you guys, in your quest to cease white-knighting gals, or all-too-ready to white knight beta-di-tutti-betas… whom are normally skewered here at the chateau.
As they say Down Under… ya cahn’t ‘ave it both ways, mate.
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Yes and no. A mentally retarded person for example.
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vile as fuck
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A lot of angst among so called men out there. I go into interactions with younger women with the intent of getting sheet tested knowing that I will pass. The results are better when I used to try and not break any of the rules. I know I’m doing it right when I start to get called out for my rudeness or whatever fake reason. Last night was an example of this. I turned down certain sex from an 8. Why? Because I had other options but also I have her hungry for me now more than she has been for any man ever probably.
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A fine song and video, also from Sweden:
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James Blonde: “You can’t have oil to run it without sucking Islamic cock.”
Now why would a nice zhyd like you go around spreading such brazen lies to the goyim?
Wait, I know. Erets built nukes, but even Erets dares not build one nuclear powerplant. Why does Erets insist sucking Saudi kok?
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One good thing about the Ay-rabs is that they’ve sucked in millions of potential immigrants from places like India and Pakistan that would have otherwise gone to Europe or the USA.
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wonder how young is too young. almost everybody loses their virginity at 15-16 but I did it at 18 with a hooker. Now I am 23 and want to go to brazil or india and fuck a 15 year old. Its not child sex tourism because that is some pre-pubescent shit.
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I am in a similar situation. I missed out on the precious teen years ass well and I feel like I will never live it down. I wonder about the legality of going to another country where it is legal to have sex with 16 year olds.
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It’s illegal for US citizens to have sex with anybody under the age of 18, anywhere in the world, at any time.
When I was living abroad last year, I had a friend who actually got hauled in by the feds because he simply *knew* another guy who was having sex with 14- and 15-year-olds in that country. Keep in mind we were not on US soil.
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“knew” in the Biblical sense, globetrotter?
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Oh, come on, doesn’t the FBI have a Psych Unit which can think up cleverer aliases than “twenty 3 depressed male”? Epic Gubmint Bureaucrat FAIL!
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Gary the beak gave you 16 years already, now shut up and do your porridge. No internet in Parkhurst.
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Wow, someone wants to take this website down.
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Go away and stick your head back up Obama’s ass.
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Only thing about 20 year olds is they’re so dumb… dumb, dumb,dumb, but so sexy… Last comment I had from one.
“A man is not a man, unless he has a decent beard.”
She said this in front of all her young Beta orbiters, who either have bum fluff or scraggly beards.
I grow a decent beard.
Another thing I’ve noticed, the young 20 year olds employ eye game of sorts…Literally eye fuck you.
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One area where young guys do have some advantage is social circle game. They know a lot more young women from school, work, church, just growing up together, former gfs etc. So you see out in bars groups of mixed sets invariably all around the same age. They take up lots of space and appear close and friendly to each other but closer observation will reveal the majority of the guys are friend zoned orbiters. So still much opportunity for older guys.
An easy way to gain traction in these circles is to befriend bartenders and waitresses. Just get to know them well and find out where they go out. Then when you are out at that spot it’s easy to say hey and meet their group. Totally natural way to go about it.
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First, anecdotal evidence (whether they are real or fake) is not enough to demonstrate mating preferences in humans generally. Beyond any personal anecdote, there is precious little evidence that female humans actually do prefer older men. So sorry, but that kind of storytelling may sound surprising to anyone cognizant of the literature on mating preferences in humans:
Smart people can usually see through the lies to focus on the numbers!
[CH: self-report sex surveys are close to useless predictors of real world mate choices. ESPECIALLY as it pertains to women’s mate choices. details available upon request.]
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Too many of us here date or are married much younger women to take you seriously. Run along little girl.
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But in reality most women do date men at least slightly older. My question for you is IF a younger woman were to date an older man, what would be the main reasons for that?
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The denial is deep in this one.
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Your not hot enough to be so bitchy.
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Eh, she’s a stereotypical duck face girl. lol
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There’s also the fact that my generation is far less interested in dating than prior generations because casual sex is rampant. About half of my married friends cheat, the vast majority of men in relationships I know cheat liberally and use the relationships as an excuse for getting sex(except the few who plan getting married to their high-school/uni girlfriends and who bring quasi-dowries to the table). Mind you, I’m Eastern European and here people are more relationship driven, but the reality is that young men are no longer shammed by the ‘marriage and kids’ thing. The men I know who do want that simply chose women from whom divorce wouldn’t be painful if things don’t work out by having them put more into the marriage than they did financially and they cheat, sometimes liberally. Even I feel bad at times because some of these girls are really nice, high quality girls and knowing their husbands better than they do is ironic.
I have a friend who probably cheated with 5-6 girls on his LT girlfriend and he keeps her around only to have a place to sleep in while visiting her city. He wants to give her the honor of dumping him after he’s been a pig to her, but the more asshole he is towards her, the more she clings to him. lol
I might think men are shit for behaving like this if I didn’t know women better and I did think women are the nicer sex before I had more experience with them than hugging when we met.
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About half of my married friends cheat, the vast majority of men in relationships I know cheat liberally and use the relationships as an excuse for getting sex(except the few who plan getting married to their high-school/uni girlfriends and who bring quasi-dowries to the table).
This is not as new as you think it is. There are coo coo clocks with mechanisms that show men climbing up and down ladders from the wife’s window as the husband shows up at the door, so it goes back a few hundred years at least. Carnival or Fasching is also a cultural license for adultry in most countries that celebrate it. I could have said the same at age 25 or so. It is also cyclical by generation and age specific. Young people cheat more.
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If I was you, I wouldn’t bet on a career in academia or the sciences. You could try gender studies or other fields for innumerate idiots who don’t understand the epistemology of the scientific method.
The data you cited to back your argument is irrelevant for various reasons:
1)an analysis of the overall marriage market is inconsequential to what women prefer for more casual liaisons.
2)an analysis of the overall marriage market is inconsequential because it focuses mostly on marriages that are irrelevant to the point CH is making: about what presently young women prefer(for flings, again).
I can go on, but seriously, just learn to cook and suck dick. Leave thinking to people who are actually equipped for it. The irony of your post is that it combines abysmal reading comprehension* with a pompous vocabulary. Don’t try so hard to pretend to be something you’re not: someone with something interesting to say.
A summation: CH doesn’t even deny the fact that women prefer men a few years older than they are. He even commented on articles that emphasized this. Nobody said that most young women prefer men in their 50s. What CH claims is that there might be a large enough subset of young women that are willing enough to sleep with older men that identifying and gaming them is something older men might have success doing. I’d also suggest finding someone’s blog who actually understands statistics because that person makes some glaring errors in interpreting the data he analyzes(e.g. you can’t say men peak at 26-27 based on the preferences of women because the OKC users are self selected and I assume their age distribution isn’t comparable at all to the general population).
*CH’s post wasn’t about mating preferences in humans generally, it focused exclusively on a SUBSET of YOUNG women; so not only you must exclude all marriages with women over 25 – or whatever CH considers young, but he’s not even talking about young women in their entirety
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Younger women expressing interest in older, established men?
Hold on …
[opens window, sticks out hand] .. ah, right you are, there’s another apparently interminable Depression on. Color me astounded.
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Most women prefer older men but that is only like 5yrs isn’t it?
Though until like the 90’s most romance books main characters were women in their teens to early 20’s with the love interest being in their mid-30’s.
Though a lot of women did dig on Sean Connery even into his later years didn’t they?
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just leaving this with this post, it’s nothing new but is a funny read
http://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2015/feb/21/why-are-older-men-looking-at-women-half-their-age
hopefully LESS than half their age
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I wish women would understand that if we liked the same things they do, we’d all be gay and they’d be unfucked.
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The trouble with having a rock solid relationship with an older man, is that men are likely to expire long before women do even when they are close in age, if they’re older, you’re likely to be on your own much longer. My late mother in law was married to a man 25 years older than her, and she was a widow for forty years. Of course, for some women that might be an advantage.
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But the man isn’t stuck with some old hag while he’s still spry and able to slay strange pussy. I think ten years or more should be the minimum. But it takes men who are also not going to let themselves go. Maybe your mother was an Alpha widow? I doubt my wife will remarry once I die either, although she will likely be able to attract and keep a good man. He just won’t be me and that’s all the difference in the world to her. I will be looking to arrange a marriage for my daughter to such a man when the time comes. Grandchildren are too important to leave to chance.
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“My late mother in law was married to a man 25 years older than her, and she was a widow for forty years. Of course, for some women that might be an advantage.”
yeah well. women who marry much older men aren’t doing it so they can grow old and gray with the loves of their lives.
they are fully aware that the man will die much earlier than them. he will most likely leave her financially secure and she can just replace him with another man after he’s gone. of course they see it as an advantage.
[CH: or, you know, a woman might marry an older man because she truly, deeply, loves him.]
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So reading that article; it’s like so chick you let yourself gain a lot of weight, you have a bad haircut and you don’t have any sense of style, dress and probably bearing.
But your in all likelihood going after the Sean Connery’s, the George Clooney’s and the Johnny Depp’s of the world that you can.
Sometimes the hypocrisy and self-delusion is almost inspiring.
Why do you think the men need to have their A-Game but you don’t even need to try?
Reminds of those “Forced Single” guys or whatever they call themselves that can’t be bothered to learn social skills, lose weight or get a good job.
How little do you value the people your trying to get laid/LTR with?
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I still maintain that younger women would rather play house than actually be involved with the struggle of a LTR. Sell them the fantasy but don’t fall into the beta trap of unconditional love.
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It is the most natural thing in the world for them. If you can afford a woman to be at home and let her, you will have a hard time getting her to work again. They will often suddenly turn up pregnant too. I call this housewife mode.
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If a woman would afford keeping me at home and would let me spend her money, I’d do it too, although I wouldn’t get pregnant. 😛
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Sounds like “mature” is being used as a synonym for “masculine.”
Tempting for a happily married family guy to go enjoy some me time, but there is no future in it.
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