February 28, 2015 by CH
Commenter 7darktriad3 writes about his ONE POON-HUNTING TRICK that turns around recalcitrant girls,
Not strictly redirection but I’ve found a great way of yielding high % of numbers when you get this type of response:
You: Send me your number
Her: But I hardly know you etc
You: Your right we should stay Tinder BFF and chat on here forever and ever
Her: Hehe I guess your right – ######
Essential Game Techniques 101 should be required coursework for all middle school boys.
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[…] Agree & Amplify For More Sex, Deeper Love […]
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I have heard of alot of cases recently of teenage girls self harming themselves. Any opinions on why this is ?
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There’s a strong degree of misdirection here – sort of an intellectual boxing – where she’s expecting a soft left jab of Beta whining and begging, whereas you’re smacking her with the hard right uppercut of Alpha agree & amplify sarcasm. Chicks love to be surprised by something which they weren’t expecting. Which is one of the reasons that they hate Betas so much – because BORING!
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Which POON HUNTING TRICK is being referred to here? Cite chapter and verse, please. Is there a commandment on the devastating use of sarcasm?
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@King A
“Which POON HUNTING TRICK is being referred to here?”
Agree & Amplify, like he mentioned and like this article is titled. Read more carefully.
“Cite chapter and verse, please.”
http://www.pualingo.com/handling-shit-tests-building-attraction/
“How to Pass a Shit Test: The best way to pass a shit test is to playfully ‘Agree & Exaggerate’ with what she says.”
http://www.pualingo.com/shit-test/
“the PUA can overcome it by, again, ignoring it, agreeing with it, or making a joke about it.”
And of course our host: https://heartiste.wordpress.com/2009/08/13/relationship-game-week-agree-and-amplify/
“Is there a commandment on the devastating use of sarcasm?”
Yes, see the above.
Glad to see you’re taking an interest in learning game! Keep this up and one day you’ll lose your virginity (Greg doesn’t count)!
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If she’s an HB7+, then she’s getting upwards of ten completely new proposals per day on scrotial media. Your proposal distinguishes itself by NOT following the Template of all the losers’ proposals. That’s unexpected – it surprises her – and you’ve briefly got her attention. Two points here: First, you can subsequently lose her attention by lapsing back into Beta Template mode [you’ve always gotta be pushing the envelope just enough to keep her tingling]. And second – if Game ever reaches critical mass [say, in the year 2020, or 2025], then everyone will be reciting the Asshole [= Alpha] Template, and at that point you will surprise her [and briefly capture her attention] by being a Gentleman [= revenge of Matt King].
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Okay, so “Agree & Amplify” is the Puaese neologism for sarcasm. Gotcha. Brilliant, groundbreaking stuff, brah,
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What she’s saying is legitimate. She doesn’t feel a connection with him and yet he’s pushing for her number. She smells a rat.
And if even if she gave him her number, if she doesn’t feel comfortable doing so, how likely is it that she’ll feel comfortable setting up a date?
Odds of flaking: 98%.
Don’t waste time prying girls’ numbers from their cold dead hands. Follow the comfort scent trail until it leads either to a same day/night lay or she suggests you get together again.
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Numbers are nothing. Tinder is where you are supposed to angle for a number quick, rev up your text game and get a real life meeting within the next week. It’s not a social media platform for hemming and hawing about your day or 3 yappy dogs.
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Getting her number is getting your foot in the door. To get all the way to full-blown PIV, you’ve got a lot more work to do, but for every phone number you secure, there are 99 Betas and Gammas who got nothing at all.
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Numbers are nothing.
As David X says in his book Relentless Honesty; “Why waste your fucking life on girls who don’t make it easy? Life is too short.”
While captain obvious is patting himself on the back about how he out performed “betas and gammas.”
I’m busy actually having sex.
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“‘Why waste your fucking life on girls who don’t make it easy? Life is too short.'”
No shit. But even the ones who “make it easy” put up some resistance. Otherwise none of us would be here.
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Will: “busy actually having sex” with “girls who.. make it easy…”
LOL’ed. Look, I’m a huge fan of Natural Chemistry – arguably the biggest fan of Natural Chemistry at the Chateau [and Day Gaming for Natural Chemistry at that] – but if all you’re scoring are the easiest lays on scrotial media, then Big Daddy says read this: http://www.cdc.gov/std/gonorrhea/arg/
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tinder is useless
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And she’s a Tinder attention whore to boot.
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Nope, this is solid.
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Fowler: “I’m 6’3 and usually the tallest guy… there’s a new guy in our social group – taller than me at 6’7ish and muscular… he always places his hands right on top of my shoulder and talks to me. It’s definitely an AMOG type behavior and I don’t like it…”
Trust your hindbrain here. Short of bending over and allowing another man to sodomize you, there are few social jestures more degrading and humiliating than this. Ariely, Thaler, Sunstein, Kahneman, and Axelrod instructed Obama to place his hands on Juan McAmnesty’s shoulders in the 2008 debates, and although I don’t much care for McAmnesty in general, he can’t lift his arms because of injuries sustained in his crash landing and subsequent torture in the Hanoi Hilton during Nam. And of course Ariely, Thaler, Sunstein, Kahneman, and Axelrod knew DAMNED WELL that McAmnesty couldn’t lift his arms, so this was a particularly cynically nihilistic gesture on their part.
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Ariely, Thaler, Sunstein, Kahneman, and Axelrod focus-group test ALL of these psychological warfare techniques, in order to maximize the aura of Alpha dominance – everything from verbal Game, such as “You’re likable enough, Hillary,” to the kino Game of placing of hands on crippled war veteran Juan McAmnesty. They also have their female cousins pull this shiznat in public – you’ll have a Barbara Boxer or a Debbie Wasserman Schulz on CNN’s Crossfire, sitting next to a white knight GOP dude, and the jewess will take her hand and place it on TOP of the GOP dude’s forearm for the entire appearance. Again, this is pure unadulterated psychological warfare of the highest order.
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I had a guy do that to me the other week and I asked him to give me a massage. It was truly classic as I groaned and said he is hitting the right spots.
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He does not do it anymore and when it looks like he could I ask him if he is going to give me another massage.
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I like this a lot – playful redirection that puts the guy in his place rather than a flat out “leave me alone” that can come off as insecure unless you’re good at doing it right.
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I take the guy by my side look into his eyes and say. ‘I think it’s enough’
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Yeah. I usually don’t say anything about it. I just move my shoulder as soon as they try to put their hand on it. If he says anything about it, then I can just say ‘oh….you want to put your hand on my shoulder/back/etc.?’ as if it were the weirdest fucking thing in the world and no one ever does that.
If you are 100% congruent, you can really shatter some realities this way.
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I look down then back up like Angel Eyes in GB&U when he sees Tuco reaching for his gun right prior to the climactic shootout.
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The proper way to handle this guy is the preemptive strike since he ‘s in the “tall enough to be awkward looking” height range.
Example: every time you see him, hang your coat on his shoulder and ask for a claim ticket like he’s a coat rack.
Example #2: when you first see him, Tell him “I loved it when Hulk Hogan body slammed you at the first Wrestlemania, Andre!” Then say nothing more
It will force him and others to look it up and he’ll see that you were referring to the deformed Andre the Giant. Follow up no matter what he says “I loved you in the Princess Bride too”
Poking fun in a way the shows the group you have the upper hand but in a way that doesn’t allow him to get mad without looking like a total asshole is how you handle this guy. If he gets mad, you just escalate humorously and point out how he’s being a killjoy for everyone else and ask “are you always like this? Easy killer.”
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hypothetically speaking, what would his best response to this tactic by you be?
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The hands on shoulders thing is not an overt dickish move,so I feel you have to be subtle back. If the guy is a bit of a goober you can get away with TMOM examples, but if he knows what he’s doing and has any alpha instincts then not so easy I’d say.
#1 He’d drop my shoulder, and there is your jacket on the ground.
#2 He’d point out you need to watch less porn and catch up on the news, Andre’s been dead many years dummy. I’m sure for many here if someone was taking the piss out of you, and when you tried to object and they told you to stop being a killjoy for our entertainment, their blood pressure would spike and smart arse comments would be coming back (the trick is not losing your cool) for sure.
I like the theory of playing it back, but I think something more subtle like the back message joke would work better.
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> “The hands on shoulders thing is not an overt dickish move”
Says Mr Gamma. The only thing that would be more “dickish” would be him sliding his dick right up your rectum. Jesus H Christ, we’ve got a lot of work to do, in order to instill even the faintest trace of masculinity in you little girls.
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I’m talking about from the average person’s perspective in a mixed company setting and the taller guy is casually standing next to him. Guy’s here will know it for AMOG type behavior, but many others standing around wont consciously think that, but many will interpret it subconsciously. I’m certainly not saying ignore it but over reaction will get noticed.
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Ok, so this redhead was doing incidental kino on me, trying to get my attention. One time she touched my belly in public (as opposed to pubic,heh). How do I A&A this? Take her hand and briefly put it on my package? On my thigh? Put my hand on her belly and hold it there? Inquiring young alpha minds want to know.
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Do you own a conversion van?
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No, why?
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Grab her hand and rub your belly with it, for good luck.
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That’s the one.
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What do you want out of this interaction? My read is you prefer plausible deniability flirting and that’s it. You are not looking to escalate. Is that a correct read?
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I want journal material for my social dancing and relationships book. Women flirting with me give me material for my book. Flirting mostly goes one way–from women to me. I might smile the amused mastery smile or smirk, but that’s all totally natural for me–part of who I am. I don’t consciously decide these thing. I typically avoid deliberate flirting.
I experimented with a very little deliberate flirting with a married woman (naively thinking that that was safer) and it snowballed into a mess from which I’m trying to extricate myself.
NB: People in my social circle blame me when women flirt overtly with me. I’m a married man going out solo, so obviously I’m catting and women have the right to assume that I’m catting. That’s the assumption that people make. Not my frame, however.
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the chick is touching you and you’re asking for advice? Gosh man, the key is in the lock and i twisted it, wtf do I do now!??
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Just looking to see what people suggest. I could talk about another redhead in my social circle who briefly cupped my buttcheek after a dance. (She has actually been sweet to me.) How would you A&A that? Suggest, “Let’s go for a walk?” Can’t really hold her hand on my butt in my social circle without severe repercussions to my marriage. The A&A is hypothetical anyway.
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HABD:
Field Report Update:
Mrs. Gamer ranted after I got home from dancing last night about the faux-cheating issue with another woman dancer and the bonding. I smiled for a while, said that I was sorry that she was hurt (not that I was responsible), then started walking away after it got boring. Mrs. Gamer followed me, ranting. I went downstairs to sleep in my favorite chair (like my throne). She sat down next to me on a piano stool, with quiet waterworks. I was asleep within two minutes. I woke up in the morning alone in the room. Serendipity!
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So theasdgamer, is this payback for years of nagging or something else? Seems you have reset the marriage right?
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Sure, been fakking the h311 out of 20-somethings. Oh wait, I haven’t been. Reset your brain.
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careful…..stories like yours end in her self-ejection 50% of the time.
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Let’s see…no kissing…no fakking…just some emotional bonding that was a pain in the @$$ and only lasted a brief time and which I assiduously sought to break because it was a pain in the @$$. Now I avoid the woman. No contact with the woman. My behavior has been solid. My frame.
Mrs. Gamer’s issue is that I wasn’t mateguarding myself by not going out, like she would do. She asserts that I should have used a woman’s mateguarding strategy. Like a beta would do. In her mind, that’s how I ended up bonding to the other woman. This is Mrs. Gamer’s frame. It’s frame v. frame and I cannot submit to her frame.
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i understand the dynamic dude. i’m suggesting you can overgame @ home too….
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@Tilikum
“careful…..stories like yours end in her self-ejection 50% of the time.”
yeah, these scenarios can be tough. too much comfort and she’s turned off and thinking of you as a beta chump. not enough and she starts shutting down and making plans to leave.
i think you handled it well. you gave her a little comfort but you didn’t let her drag more out of you. well played.
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Is she your wife? Or “Mrs” is used jokingly?
If shes your wife, fucking take care of your wife, faggot.
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Totally awesome white-knighting. Like. Totally.
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What is the goal here? Drive her away?
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It’s frame v. frame. Dominance. Why don’t you get that?
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He feels he had to act cold like that or the relationship will be ruined.
He has some unconscious guilt about that and is trying to assuage it by reaction formation -“I’m a cold cold playa!” and seeking approval from the peanut gallery here. Not telling if what he did was good/bad/stupid without a lot more context.
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I just don’t understand what the the end game is? Are you trying for a reset? Do you want her to get more sexual? What is the goal? Frame versus frame means as much as spy versus spy.
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No end game. Just ordinary maintenance. Aiming for her to be more submissive. She’s trying to impose her frame requiring me to abandon my mission.
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Some men employ game to improve their desirability to women for ultimately benevolent purposes. It’s an antidote to the self-defeating social conditioning that has dogged men for several decades now. Some other sick bastards use game as cover for their sadism while they exploit Internet forums to feed their narcissism.
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Ya, Kurt, I’m a bad person and narcissistic. Don’t you feel better now for having dumped on me? Like your status is higher or something.
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Are you married? OOOOHH I envy you,lucky dog!!!! Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
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Woof.
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@theasdgamer
nice frame control… but mrs. gamer still needs to be able to ‘win’… and i haven’t seen what challenge you have set for her…if you don’t give her a goal, she is not being lead…and she may decide to go in a direction you don’t anticipate…
as you probably figured out, ’emotional bonding’ is a bigger deal for girls than just some natural ‘release’ without the bonding…lol…it’s one step closer to commitment than just a bang. girls can ‘share’ but they don’t want to be ‘second-placed’.
re a&a on the redhead…LBF has it…grab her hand and rub your belly with it, for luck…but a&a will increase her attraction level, and with the kino, she’ll be higher on the escalation ladder…
good luck!
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habd:
Mrs. Gamer has missions to cook foods that I like and to lose ten pounds. She is to dance with other men when I take her out and to behave herself and not throw tantrums if I do something that she doesn’t like or fail to do something that she wants. She is to wear feminine clothes–no pants–when we go out.
Girls care more about emotions than men do. She thinks that the bonding is stronger than it really is. It’s not minimal, but it’s not limerence either.
The redhead a&a is merely a hypothetical. It happened in a hookup bar where people in my social circle were around. I’m not into pda–especially around my social circle. I like private walks.
I’ll be curious to see the redhead’s attraction level should I see her again, which wouldn’t be a surprise.
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@theasdgamer
all that sounds like loyalty testing (as opposed to frame battle), and mrs. gamer seems worried that she will be replaced, not just have to share…and her worries are amplified bc ‘bonding’ is farther along that path than ‘natural release’ without the bonding…don’t diss the emotional turmoil, blowback is a bitch…ask me how i know…lol…
mrs. gamer still needs to be able to ‘win’ or least have hope of ‘competing’ (sexually) as against other girls (and not just on cleaning the house type tasks)…she’s still a girl and operant conditioning is still in play (as is her hindbrain repo algorithms)…being replaced is a very real concern…and unless YOU let her compete, it is completely outside of her control…this includes ‘submission’ as a way to win…lol…
punish (ignore to extinguish…) bad behavior and reward good behavior with a reward that is important/valuable/desired by the target organism…kids, dogs, girls (even cats, though they are NOT dogs…lol)…that principle doesn’t change regardless of the situ. usually attention (positive OR negative from alpha) is the main reward for girls…
you can either control it/direct it or not…if not = drama…and that seems to be the case here (given the limited info).
it sounds like she needs to have a mission that she can carry out while you are out dancing, rather than just ‘waiting’ for you to get back…that waiting gives her hamster toooo much time by itself…lol…but she still needs to be able to ‘compete’ positively with other girls on a sexual/repo level…even if it’s just a positive comment like ‘you look hot tonight’…right before you go out…there are ways to support her without supplicating…
re her view of the bonding…per @Sentient = she’s a cat, not a dog…she views the bonding like a girl would…and as the other girl did…much stronger than you think it is…but unless you explained YOUR viewpoint, she doesn’t know any different…and even then, she can’t understand it…she’s a cat…lol
as your smv goes up and hers goes down, when the delta hits a certain point, without at least some positive encouragement, the girl realizes that she can’t compete (not many girls can compete with a hot 25yo redhead…lol), and without hope, she’ll stop trying and you’ll get an unanticipated result…
good luck!
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I would say there is a careful balance here. You are winning the frame war. But she needs to get something out of this too. Attention is critical.
Remember women need positive tension to maintain the relationship and to bond with you. What positive tension are you giving her?
You can pick the time and the place. But it needs to be done. And it should be done sporatically, see that creates positive tension. Take her on a walk just the two of you. When she least expects it. Spend a quiet dinner without the kids or any distractions giving her time to talk with you. Listen to what she says for a while. Then take her home and fuck her rugged.
Avoid sitting in your “throne” for a couple of days. Iknow it sounds silly but believe me if you are sitting there day after day not giving her attention that little act is eating away at her. Change that up and it will affect her. Hang out Ina different room.
Agreed on the over gaming. Looks like you are winning. She is still your wife if you want her around give her a chance to feel the positive tension that women need.
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Mrs.. Gamer has been keeping herself in the bedroom doing her stuff to keep busy. Ditched all the sex paraphernalia in the circular file. I go see her every now and then to check on her and she’s cold. I do one playful thing and depart. Maybe another day or two of this and she’ll thaw.
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@ASDgamer
Not sure there is much more you could do here if your goal is only to have some women flirt with you and you not flirt back or escalate…
To me vis a vis your wife’s response to your “faux affair”, you are running intentional dread on her. There are two forms of dread, intentional where you are explicitly telling her about other women and your actions and unintentional, where you are doing your thing and ignoring her questions etc. and she is left to her own imaginings.
Intentional dread can have its purpose, but really it’s just throwing down a direct challenge to her – you or someone else. It’s in her face and will get real old quick. Which is why HABD and others are warning you about unintended consequences. In these situations she might “win” by losing, ejecting and saving face. Also this preserves her narrative of the wounded woman btw. She can’t answer any of her BFF’s questions for example of “he is going out with THAT woman he has a crush on” or you coming home with another woman’s scent and hair on you etc. and to her,if you do not realize it yet, a “crush” or “oxytocin” as you have termed it is far more serious than sex.
Women have a different relationship to sex than men do. Because it is so easy for them to get. Women have sex for a variety of non-erotic reasons – comfort, companionship, advancing her agenda, $$$$, pity, bored, etc… Also this is why they are apt to forgive your one off sexual transgressions quickly.
But they crave emotional investment, bonding and ultimately commitment, and your “oxytocin” with the other woman is ringing all of her alarm bells on this front. In other contexts this could be viewed as an emotional affair. Certainly you were emotionally involved with this woman and don’t think that your subcomms didn’t flash this in bright neon to your wife over and over.
You are better off with unintentional dread. So you can go out, do whatever but not tell her much about it. let her hamster work FOR you instead of against you. She can imagine you fucking all kinds of other women (hamster hamster) until her hamster has had enough of this torture and then she can relax “knowing” nothing happened (hamster hamster) – regardless of reality. This is the space you need to play in.
If I were in your shoes and wanted to preserve things, I’d show the MRS some positive attention, tell her she is your #1 girl etc. A little more beta but without supplication. Then chill for a bit and slowly ramp back up the unintentional dread to punish negative behaviors as required.
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@ Sentient
Yeah, no more of this honesty 5h1t, which invokes intentional dread.
The bonding started level 1 (out of 10) and was easily suppressed. Later, maybe because of jet lag, it reemerged and got up to 3, which is when I started actively trying to manage it and decided to break contact. Nowhere near a crush level, but still very annoying. Anyway, now I’m in the “loss” stage of grief, so I’m almost to acceptance.
Women see emotional bonding as more serious than men do. For me it’s annoying rather than a major problem. I have no problem focusing on Mrs. Gamer when we’re together. The first 10 years of my marriage I was still emotionally bonded to my college gf (10 level at first!) and Mrs. Gamer never had a clue–love the one you’re with has always been my motto. I still love all my girls–fond memories.
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go take a shit or something else where she won’t follow.
Come out and tell her that her ass looks sexy and then grab her around the waist like a man would.
Why are you “logicalizing” her emotion, just CONVINCE her that you find her desirable.
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@trav do this
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Thanks for trying to help. She’ll just push me away as hard as she can. Been there, done that.
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Has she checked out of the marriage already?
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@ Reco
Don’t think so, because of body language, which is conflicted. Her torso and face face away when riding in my truck and she sniffles. However, her hips are angled towards me. She tolerates some overt kino on her arm.
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asd: agree with other comments that you need to find a way to balance and transition your dhv into comfort/connection with mrs. gamer.
has yareally ever weighed in on your deal? I’d like to hear his take, but he rarely appears to focus his fire on married ltrs, other than how to take them apart
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I don’t disagree at all with the suggestions to provide comfort. Doing that. However, it also takes time for the hormonal management mechanism to turn comfort into feel-goods. It’s a battle with cortisol from her insecurity. I can temporarily suspend going out solo to reduce cortisol production. That’s about all I can do.
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ASD how many days has this been going on? How often do you guys argue? Do you guys normally get along? Do you have kids?
Do you feel that she is fighting you? Or is she just in fear now?
One thing that you can do and has worked for me quite well is a simple non sexual long hug. Don’t say anything just the hug. Very good reward for good behavior. Negative tension is too high now and you need positive tension.
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@theasdgamer
“Field Report Update: Mrs. Gamer had another breakdown today when I told her about my struggles with the bonding at the same time that she issued her nuclear loyalty test.”
that loyalty test was probably directly resulting from your subcomms on the ‘bonding’…girls have 100x better resolution on that stuff than we do…
“Mrs. Gamer was totally unsympathetic, as expected. I told her that I woke up and thought about the other broad. Breakdown commenced with waterworks and no rant.”
ya, never do this…lol…’hey, honey, i just had a dream about that really hot broad i’ve been spending a lot of alone time with…’…lol…
on the flip side, if you expected this reaction, why proceed?…as per @Sentient above – indirect dread is best…i understand the impulse, but blue pill ‘sharing’ doesn’t work…lol…and while you were trying to let her know that you were working through your bonding issue, and that she didn’t have to worry, mrs. gamer just saw that she was being replaced…
“Been reconsidering relying on The Chat ™ to set boundaries. Not sure that married (or single) broads will believe The Chat ™ if a married man is out solo. Still, it’s good policy that I can always refer back to if necessary. Just don’t expect women to believe it.”
re ‘The Chat’…no girls will EVER believe your words over your subcomms and even if they did, they would never consider that ‘The Chat’ could apply to THEM bc they are special…(also, the flip side of this is why random boring talking can still be powerful if your subcomms are solid…) so, ‘The Chat’ is just another disqualification that will raise your alpha factor…and she will chase harder…if you truly don’t want to get into those situs, you will have to ‘go beta’ = ‘i’m really lucky that mrs. gamer lets me go out…’, ‘you are the BEST…i’ve never danced with a woman as beautiful as you…’, etc…basically LJBF zone yourself…
re mrs. gamer checking out…
“Don’t think so, because of body language, which is conflicted. Her torso and face face away when riding in my truck and she sniffles. However, her hips are angled towards me. She tolerates some overt kino on her arm.”
if she hasn’t checked out yet, you still have some time to turn it around. but, you are going to have to get on it bc that window might be closing…and YOU need to lead her where she needs to go, bc she isn’t going to get there by herself…
“I don’t disagree at all with the suggestions to provide comfort. Doing that.”
you might need to change tack, bc what you’ve been doing doesn’t seem to be effective…try @Sentient’s advice…’you are my #1 girl’, etc…instead of denying that there is anything going on with those other girls (which her hamster won’t believe…and if it does, you have even more problems…lol) YOU need to place her in first place…and keep referring to her in that capacity…and reward her efforts with attention…
“However, it also takes time for the hormonal management mechanism to turn comfort into feel-goods.”
it shouldn’t take more than a couple of minutes for her to swing back to positive emotions…her limbic system is set up for that…thats why girls like the roller coaster…lol…you just need to provide her with the proper stimulus to ping her limbic system…but YOU have to take some positive action to get her there, as opposed to a passive reset…which can take a long time…
“It’s a battle with cortisol from her insecurity. I can temporarily suspend going out solo to reduce cortisol production. That’s about all I can do.”
no, you can revise your action pattern to better manage her responses…see above…you don’t have to stop going out, just manage her expectations better…and let her/set her up to ‘win’…
“Yeah, no more of this honesty 5h1t, which invokes intentional dread.”
good…lol
“Women see emotional bonding as more serious than men do.”
that’s their highest prize that they give out…beta bux orbiter/providers don’t get offered this…only alphas…so, it’s the highest prize that they can get in return = attention from alpha = emotional bonding in motion…
good luck!
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@theasdgamer
stuck in the stack…
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@ Reco
Mrs. Gamer has insecurity the morning after every night I go out clubbing. Been going clubbing on weekends for 17 months. She only got insecure after I lost 50 lbs. And after she saw a very pretty 25 yo hang around my neck right in front of her, lol. And this latest mess with one of my favorite dance partners. Mrs. Gamer is typically insecure two mornings a week.
When Mrs. Gamer isn’t undergoing insecurity issues, she typically flirts with me continually. In public, at home, even “all over me” when we’re out. Five days a week + two half days.
We’ve been empty nesters for ten years.
Update:
Mrs. Gamer asked about getting together with another couple. Also is willing to commit to dance lessons for a month. Very chatty. Conclusion: Not looking to eject. As I said before, it takes time for comfort to beat the cortisol cascade.
I offered to take her out tonight. She objected to the venue I wanted to go to. Looking a gift horse in the mouth. 5h1t. Too much comfort. Very tough broad and has to be calibrated very carefully. Wish I could break her will and not her spirit.
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I find it heartening that your wife still loves you. If she does these things (flirting, etc), it’s obvious. If you’re truly committed, learn to balance dread / comfort for vaginasplosions
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jesus man. going clubbing EVERY weekend for 17 months without your wife. no wonder she’s insecure. that’s a bit much for any woman to handle. even if she’s is as much of a hardcore tough ass as you make her out to be.
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WTF is wrong theasdgamer? Why all the drama. You can’t figure out what you want? Spy versus spy is what you want? What is your goal. You want her to drop the attitude, be more sexual, enjoy your nights out clubbing?
Can you explain something tangible you want from her in one sentence?
Sorry but if you want to go clubbing half the week then marriage was not the right choice.
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Field Report: Endgame
So, last night I took Mrs. Gamer dancing. She liked the people I knew and had a good time except for one dance. So she focused on that one dance, lol. Wanted to have a bad time. We argued about it after we got home. She said I wasn’t sexy. I said that she was a fine piece of @$$. She said that she wanted to find hot new d1ck. She said that she wanted an open marriage. No more sex with me. Sounds like she’s checking out. Right?
Wrong. The subcomms were solid. Her words were total bull5h1t. (Didn’t think about any of my following actions at the time. Just did them. Gotta get graphic here where necessary for instruction.) Grabbing her and pulling her in was the wrong move. Too beta. Instead, using my hand, I poked deep into her pussy from behind, cupping her buttcheek. Very alpha move. She jumped. I turned around and walked away. The Chase was on. (See my post about Sexual Macrodynamics.) Mrs. Gamer said for me to come back. I kept walking. She went in the other room. I came back in a minute to face me, hugged her pinning her arms against her side. She jiggled my package roughly. I walked away again. All the time she was bitching at me.
Mrs. Gamer went upstairs. I followed and went into the bedroom. She was bitching the whole time. Threw her sexy black panties on the floor at my feet. (She was wearing a skirt.) Bitch, bitch, bitch. I argued and threw some shiv tests at her. She said that she wanted to change. I left the room and closed the door. Hit her with another shiv test. Bitch, bitch, bitch. I opened the door and she covered up rapidly. Had on a bra. I closed the door and hit her with another shiv test. She opened the door and followed, bitching. Covered up one breast and left the other exposed. Hindbrain was in total control. More bitching. I approached and started messing with her exposed bra-covered boob for a few seconds. She didn’t cover it up. More bitching. I left and went downstairs to sleep. Didn’t want to appear needy. Let her hamster work overnight.
Went back to the bedroom this a.m. She was brushing her teeth. I said that brushing her teeth was sexy. Not wearing panties, but her shirt was long and I had to reach to check. Caressed her tits a bit. Nibbled her neck. Bitchy reaction. I said that I wanted “duty” sex. Gives her plausible deniability that she wasn’t gonna enjoy it, lol. Got out the mouse vibrator, supposedly for me. More plausible deniability that she wasn’t gonna enjoy it. I told her that I wanted her. Hurt look on her face. She wanted to be desired, but was afraid that I didn’t desire her. Her bitching was one huge insecurity test.
End result, a good time was had by all. She still wouldn’t kiss me on the lips. Drove her to work since her car is in the shop and offered her my hand for her to kino as I drove. (She likes to kino it. Basic primate behavior–females groom the alphas. Emphasizes my status.) Mrs. Gamer was friendly and chatty. Big smiles. Entire body was leaning towards me. Liked having my hand on her thigh. Leaned over to get a kiss when we got to her workplace. Waved to me just before she went inside.
The key was to initiate The Chase with a massively alpha move. Notice that I approached, engaged her sexually, then moved away, rinse and repeat. She also chased some. Textbook Chase. Even arguing (which you might have thought would have put me in her frame) didn’t undermine the subcomms. I was just sexually playful and engaging with my subcomms even though we were arguing.
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Field Report Endgame Update:
Mrs. Gamer told me that she wants to bang many times per day (more than 6) “for bonding”. XD Told her that she’d better have my life insurance up to date.
Oh, yeah, one of the little gems that Mrs. Gamer dropped on me during her bitchfest last night was that she no longer felt bonded to me.
She’s showering now to get ready for dancing and fun&games. I love the Hamster when it works for me!
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“Mrs. Gamer told me that she wants to bang many times per day (more than 6) “for bonding’.”
Now that is sweet but one had to wonder if she will maintain that frame for very long considering the history?
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Putin, you nailed it. I knew it was just her tingles talking. She hit me with an emotional ambush last night–another loyalty test. Very unstable at this point
I wouldn’t even kiss her this morning when she leaned in for a kiss goodbye. She agreed last night that there are certain topics that we shouldn’t discuss.
Gonna discuss with her her need to get a handle on her emotions and avoid ambushing me.
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THE TRUTH
It has become obvious to me that there is a deadly form of blue pill which is being served in places such as this. Like the robot in the movie “Logans Run” he casts a net on the few remaining individuals who have come so close to escaping the matrix. Let me take a big picture view of what reality is first.
Alpha- They can resist the temptation to grovel when the female test occurs. It is a mind set which gives them supreme advantage/attractiveness to women.
Beta- Weak when it comes to a womens test. Placates and cheers women.
Blue Pill: Blissful ignorance and illusion
Red Pill: Truth, reality.
Blue Pill Individuals- Clinton’s, Obama’s, Bush, McCain
Red Pill Individuals- Ron Paul, Putin, Justin Amash
When it comes to the blue pill there are the individuals who are taking it and then there are individuals who are instituting and enforcing it. An example of this would be Bill Clinton. Clinton is the ultimate enforcer of the blue pill. What he did to force corporate and financial America to start serving up the gay/women/black agenda is historic. The evidence is strong regarding his strong arm techniques when it came to forcing Americans to swallow the fem/women/politically correct blue pill. Not only was Bill an enforcer of the blue pill but his balls fell off when he stayed married to Hillary and lifted her onto the national pedalstil. Throw in the fact that he would bomb Christians in Serbia to take Americans attention away from his history of rape. An Alpha does not need to rape a women.
When someone tells you that people like Clinton are Red Pill Alphas you need to run not walk away. DO NOT SWALLOW THIS BLUE PILL.
An example of a Red Pill Alpha would be Putin. Here is a clip of Puitn testifying about the first time he was introduced to the Red Pill.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BisbSxipR-I
When the U.S. told Russia that they need to swallow the fem/beta/gay/unisex Blue Pill agenda Putin poceeded to tell them to Fuck Off.
In fact the last time Obama was in Russia he opted to meet with the gays instead of Putin.
Putin pushed for a peace deal in Syria which stopped the slaughter of hundreds of thousands of secular and Christian men, women and children by U.S. backed Muslim terrorist.
Putin provided food and shelter to hundreds of thousands of refugees fleeing ethnic cleansing in Ukraine and Georgia.
Putin was against the war in Iraq which killed over 600,000 children and unleashed untold evil.
Putin was against the bombing and support of Mulsim Rebels in Libya.
Putin is not perfect but like a good king he values life and tries to stop evil.
In Russia men are men and women are women for a reason still. Puitn is not willing to sell out.
The bottom line is you have to be careful as the Blue Pill advocates are clever and willing to go to any lengths to deceive. Do not take their dismissal of this writing seriously.
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What an amazing technique.
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Church Talk
I would like to clarify some things regarding religion/Christianity or what many here call churchian and how it relates to Blue/Red Pill.
Christianity in America has been hijacked by the Blue Pill Culture. American Christianity is just another form of Blue Pill. Placating and pedestalizing women, feminine men, White shame and even gay agenda with a mix of noecon cheer-leading. Even Clinton was able to make American Christianity palatable to his lifestyle.
There was a day when the church in America had allies like James Dobson and Dr. Laura. Not that they were completely Red Pill but they did echo Red Pill traditonal roles. Hell, Dr Laura pushed wive’s to start sexing it up with their husbands and cooking them a good meal. Even Pat Robertson said that it was a divorcable act for a wife to withhold sex from her husband.
Now I am not trying to saying the Christianity in America was ever pushing the Red Pill 100%. I am saying that American Christianity has morphed into some kind of politcally correct Blue Pill now.
What many people have missed is that whenever someone like Dr. Laura or James Dobson pushed the Red Pill agenda they were ironically rode out on a rail within months.
Even non religious people such as Gabrielle Reece have been attacked for deciding to submit to her husband(Laird Hamilton) after seeing how he he just didn’t care anymore and was ready for divorce. Funny how women do that by the way.
Speaking of divorce, Putin’s decision to man up and divorce his wife because the realtionship had become unhealthy was interesting. Now he is going out with hot women gymnast. Not that I support divorce but he is a lot more intellectually honest than the scum America has in office.
Red Pill=Intellectual Honesty
I am starting to agree with many others on these boards that Orthodox Russian Christianity and Catholicism have some Red Pill attributes.
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“I am starting to agree with many others on these boards that Orthodox Russian Christianity and Catholicism have some Red Pill attributes.”
I don’t have any numbers to back this up, but I would guess that this is the case because those two churches are populated by older, more conservative parishioners, so they care less about placating the broader culture.
The evangelical churches in contrast, with their emphasis on feel-goods and pop music, appeal to millennials, and we’re a bunch of pussies as a generation.
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… nor would a wise man, seeing that he was in a hole, go to work and blindly dig it deeper.
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“The evangelical churches in contrast, with their emphasis on feel-goods and pop music, appeal to millennials, and we’re a bunch of pussies as a generation.”
When the whole point of faith is to not rely on one’s feel-goods, but to a higher power. They’re way off base.
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It’s not just American Christianity that is rotten:
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PARIS, Feb 3 (Reuters) – Germany’s Catholic bishops, responding to a worldwide Vatican survey, said on Monday that many Church teachings on sexual morality were either unknown to the faithful there or rejected as unrealistic and heartless.
They said the survey, drawn up for a synod on possible reforms in October, showed most German Catholics disputed Church bans on birth control and premarital or gay sex and criticized rules barring the divorced from remarriage in church.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/02/03/german-bishops-sex-rules-_n_4718711.html
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YKW must be rejoicing at the news.
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Luckily the magisterium is guided by the Holy Spirit rather than Tuesday’s public opinion poll.
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Little-o orthodox Christianity is the culture and civilization’s only hope. I mean, I’m still keeping my fingers crossed for the Manosphere and all, but…
The genius of political Christianity, exemplified in Christ’s directive to “Render unto Caesar,” is that it established a permanent, opposing ruling philosophy to the “thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers” which arise in every time and place. It is why, for example, the Chinks today are working so hard to claw out the Seed of Peter — one hundred million strong in their country — and will fail.
Unlike Islam, unlike totalitarian socialism, the West always had a rival alternative institution keeping the political powers honest, a sanctuary of last resort where the rules of men did not apply — which is why the Left has never been able to sink its roots very deeply in the Western political order as it has elsewhere. Of course the Left has forever been against the church, and short-sighted politicians always want to limit its influence. Écrasez L’Infâme! When the Left is the political class, then they have double the reason to écraser. And in Submission (or Islam), politics and faith are bound in the same institution, there is no Consul-like check and balance, which is why they are still essentially goat herders and camel riders.
Lately the insidious effectiveness of Cultural Marxism has weakened the power of the church as Loyal Opposition. Marxists learned the hard way over a century of direct attack that “the gates of hell shall not prevail,” and so they began a project of replacement of hearts and minds — the “long march through the institutions.” Cultural bellwethers today are convinced that only superstitious rhubarbs believe that God exists anymore, and parents teach their children that the institution of their liberation — developing an internal check against the destruction of licentiousness — is in fact a prison of unnecessary rules invented by frustrated losers and clerics. No more “opium [for] the masses.” The smart set believes their dippy nihilism will contain the fire they set to the very institutions that allow them to be.
This long march is why you see Protestants promoting the eternal-feminine, appeasing tattooed sodomites, and doing all they can to avoid speaking the name of Christ Jesus. It is what rightly turns you off from their worship of weakness. They jettisoned their orthodoxy and instantly (in historical terms) became at best an irrelevant appendage, at worst the servant of the Enemy. Your beef is with the Reformation, which was a salutary development, but unrestrained gave us the half-bred Enlightenment, which in turn gave birth to the demonic jackal Left. No matter, the 500th anniversary will unofficially mark its death in two years: 1517-2017. They’ve been hoist on their own relativism.
The Eastern Orthodox are indeed the best example of manly Christianity, but they are too peculiar to their territorial identity in The Kingdom of This World to allow the universality of Thy Kingdom Come. They retained a better purity than we did. “Patriarch” is not a dirty word to them. For that reason they are models of what the church should look like. That said, they do not have the institutional infrastructure to propound a universal message, unlike the Church of the West, invented and sustained by white Europa, and boasting a unified communion of a billion souls. This technically grows to include all baptized Christians (nearly a billion more) who confess to the primacy of the King of Kings but who have strayed from the flock out of historical exigency. All baptized in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit belong to one universal church. The rest is detail.
There is no neutral ground here. Either you cast your lot with the Pax Romana, which fused the West (Jerusalem, Athens, Rome [and sometimes Britain and Philadelphia]) together into a single, self-correcting polity that dominates the world to this day; or you cast it with the barbarian godless rabble, which includes the faggot atheists who scratch at their neckbeard pimples under the liberties originated by the Christian Kairos. In Hoc Signo Vinces versus Dude, Sky Wizard Spaghetti Monster lol (but PBUH just in case, because I’m scared of Mahometans). Pick one. Pick only one.
In any event, whoever dreamed up the word “Cathedral” to signify the Left simply does not understand what brought us to this point in history.
Matt
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Thanks Matt.
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Matt you shine in these sharp discourses on the ailments of western civilization. Excellent material.
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Orthodox is the only true Christianity.
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Good observation. When you try to appeal to a broader base, you sully the value system. God doesn’t change and it’s futile to make God fit one’s standards. That makes the person God.
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But they have pews to fill. It is a business, after all. Speaking as a pastor’s kid, you give your customers what they want.
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A pastor having a kid is the problem here. Of course your worldly church reduced itself to a pew-filling business. That’s the gravity of protestantism vs the lightness of orthodoxy.
The gospel promises the exact opposite:
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” Of course your worldly church reduced itself to a pew-filling business. That’s the gravity of protestantism vs the lightness of orthodoxy.”
Yeah, but the music sure is catchy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-WOneEXr00
Hooray.
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As a lifelong Catholic, look at the bravery the saints displayed in the face if adversity. They chose torture and execution over renunciation of their faith. Standing ones ground in the face of certain death to make a point – that’s as real as it gets. They’d need a stadium to contain their balls.
Catholicism in its traditional, pre-Vatican II before-horseshit true form, was about as big a champion of traditional gender roles as you could get. Men were expected to be men (still true today), but women were also expected to be women (NOT true today). Marriage 1.0 was good, and it reinforced society and theology. A seamless garment.
So yes, Catholic and Orthodox Christianity are the rock-solid foundations of Christian faith, and also unironically are the oldest, each being at least 1,000 years alive.
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Last day of February – submission for Alpha of the Month… Tom Hoey.
His girlfriend’s plea, post beating:
Alison Bretherwick broke into tears as she called her Long Island Banana Corp. lover, Thomas Hoey, her “best friend” and explained how she was a “victim as a result of the entire [legal] process.”
“My life has been turned upside down and destroyed because of this case,” the blue-eyed Bretherwick said in a steady voice. “I have repeatedly stated that he did not assault me … and because he did not assault me, that there was nothing to tamper with. My best friend and lover have been taken from me.”
http://nypost.com/2015/02/27/banana-mogul-gets-jail-time-for-beating-girlfriend/
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I like to think of this video as a meditation on man’s journey to mastery.
0:25 – the journey begins
0:37 – gently, with the old and weak
0:48 – but not with young bishes
1:03 – wake up! he’s serious
1:11 – the white knight postures, reconsiders
1:31 – look at that focus
1:48 – gently with children too
1:56 – oh yeah, take that (black dude considers white knighting too)
2:07 – the angry, ugly face of the modern woman
(He walks on, pure zen)
2:24 – he broke her down; she actually looks like a woman now
2:39 – she’s checking out his package; walk with a purpose, women notice
2:51 – a man’s gotta know his limitations
3:11 – and now for the real test
3:25 – and men then just step out of his way
3:30 – an old woman’s judgment
3:50 – he’s a natural now, as seas part before him
4:10 – mastery. and a movement is born
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Alas this tripped mod but now you can finally enjoy the video.
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A blog full of sexually frustrated virgins!!!!!
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More science that supports game? http://www.psypost.org/2015/02/playful-adults-preferred-in-choice-of-partner-32099
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The “wall” is 27 in China.
http://www.businessinsider.com/beauty-standards-family-values-china-2015-2
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expiration date:
As I ooze my way across SE Asia, I see this is true. 26 YO Filipinos suddenly ACTUALLY learn how to show up on time, which is a minor miracle compared to a Special Forces level determination to flake among 21 year olds.
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I’m not surprised. With immigration from China to Australia going great guns, there are increasing numbers of single, 35+ Chinese women on Australian online dating sites.
Most Australian guys avoid these women.
They have a cash register for a soul, annoying accents and the femininity and sexiness of a bowl of rice.
The fact that the local and imported Chinese men aren’t interested in them, then this itself speaks volumes.
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I recently discovered this site from the TRP / MRP sidebar. I fully intend to read every last post since the 90’s or whenever this awesome shit started.
I won’t be reading every comment or leaving any/many, but i’ll be here, learning. Always learning.
i’m on Reddit as rafcdadhusband.
Respect.
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[…] Agree & Amplify For More Sex, Deeper Love | Chateau Heartiste […]
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Are there anymore example of this technique please?
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“etc.” was the challenge given.
I’d have tried an A&A but thats more my personality :
Her: “but I hardly know you etc”
Me: “Ah, shit did I accidentally upload my mugshot?” Oops!
Actually on Tinder a mugshot would be golden to use as passive skank bait.
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The kind of picture you present online is way underrated. Don’t underestimate the importance of a good picture in internet game. Women are more visual than you think.
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A girl I met on POF last year reached out to me. She turned me down twice for a date, so I deleted her number and eventually forgot about her, until today.
Her: Hellloooo is this still Benson’s phone?
Me: yeah who’s this
Her: it’s [flaky bitch from the internet] how are you?
Me: how’s the view in there
Her: The view in where?
Me: the friend zone
Her: lol hey. that’s rude!
I won’t pursue her any further. Still, not giving any fucks really is a powerful defense against girl game.
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Victoria Regina – The Queen/Empiress of Great Britain, Ireland, India, and Wales was a little less than 5 feet tall.
Her husband, Albert, was a first cousin from the Fatherland.
No cock was ever more thoroughly worshipped than his.
And what, 8-9 beautiful Royal kids resulting?
Humanity is sliding backwards.
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And what, 8-9 beautiful Royal kids resulting?
Who carried hemophilia.
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The title of this one made me think of whorefinder.
http://takimag.com/article/liberation_rape_steve_sailer/print#ixzz3Sn7jhZdY
“In 2014 alone, for example, we saw … Heisman Trophy winner Jameis Winston leading Florida State … to the national college football championship while university officials languidly investigated a white coed’s charge that he had raped her.
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College football coaches face powerful incentives to scrape the bottom of the behavioral barrel harder than their rivals in recruiting large violent men. Not surprisingly, this leads to numerous scandals involving white coeds accusing black athletes of rape, allegations that are frequently made to go away by the local power structure, helped along by the discomfort modern Americans feel over becoming aware of black-on-white rape.
[ACTUAL Patriarchy/Rape Culture <<< Anti-Racism]
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The systemic rapes of young English girls by Pakistani whoremasters were covered up by politicians and the media for a couple of decades to hamstring anti-immigration arguments.
By contrast, Virginia frat boy and gang rape initiation rite organizer Haven Monahan doesn’t, technically, exist. But he fit the casting sheet for today’s most desired rapist. Similarly, in 2006 a hoax accusing the Duke lacrosse team of raping a black stripper was fabulously popular.
It’s almost as if the dominant worldview these days were less concerned over rape in general than over who is purported to be raping whom."
Once again, hysterical feminazis are no more than useful idiots for their betters who perch upon a higher tier of the victim pyramid.
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http://www.revealnews.org/article/did-air-marshals-abandon-high-risk-flights-for-sexual-trysts/
Check out the text messages. Classic game
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“Ok, so this redhead was doing incidental kino on me, trying to get my attention. One time she touched my belly in public (as opposed to pubic,heh). How do I A&A this?”
Redhead, eh? Therefore “of my people”. Just stick a gentle-ish headbutt on her, she’ll understand. Forehead, don’t knock any teeth out, mate, she’ll never forgive you. It’s our culture, innit.
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Maybe a forearm to the forehead as well? Then take ‘er right onna floor.
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It’s lame to play game if you don’t have a life. Better to be a nerd with a job than a game player even a decent one who lives on welfare/with his mom/etc. A basic job is enough though- better to be a stud working in a pencil factory than a rocket scientist with no game. But gotta have a platform, a lifestyle, hobbies, accomplishments. That doesn’t replace sophisticated communication ability but it’s better to have the former and not the later than the reverse, otherwise you slowly become dumber, and dumber, and dumber. People here care about reputation. Reputation is critical! I have denied this area of my life because I was careless and also empty at it. I have never tried to cultivate a good reputation. I assumed it required machiavellian scheming and management. I assumed it gave you headaches. I assumed it made one timid, a coward. Maybe it can. If you do reputation right, it can be the ultimate base I think. As you commit to a path, so are you bound by that path. not that you couldn’t have taken other paths, but when you commit to one, you’re stuck or you lose that path. But what is the alternative- be labelled a douche by respectable ones of society? Or become dumb and dumber? Some of us here are trying to cheat the system- looking for shortcuts to what is necessary.This stuff may work, provided it is not a shortcut. Shortcuts are tempters for people who are vicious. All viciousness comes from people who succumb to temptation for shortcuts. Don’t think I’m moralizing with dogma. I may be moralizing but without dogma, religious baggage, holier than thou. I say go for sex, sexuality, eros, accomplishment, success, whatever works, but don’t be vicious. Go the distance, the long way. Be always willing to revise your worldview, to more completion, complexity. Be breakable. if you’re not breakable, by truth, you’re stubborn and a pippa. If you don’t let yourself be broken when it’s safe, it might happen when you are alone and vulnerable.
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Crikey! That sounds awfully complicated.
(1) do I give two curly shits about the esteem of fools?
(2) is it made of wood? If not, fuck off. I don’t know nothing about anything else.
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Paragraphs and Paxil will help you.
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Watching ‘House of Cards’ Season 3, All I can think of the entire time is:
http://imgur.com/0RwpXxu
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The citizens of Russia know the truth. Russians used to admire the U.S. and would always be fascinated with Americans visiting Russia. No more after their country was gutted by American interests. Russians now know about the corruption, torture and destabilizing America’s CIA is so good at.
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As every Russian desperately grasps for every shred of pop culture that America shits out no matter how bad it is.
Try again.
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“As every Russian desperately grasps for every shred of pop culture that America shits out no matter how bad it is.
Try again.”
Reco, I really did not think there were that many blue pill people on this site. Not sure if you are joking or not? Anyway if you are serious then let me explain that Russians wanted a piece of America in the late 1990’s. The average Russian has grown tired of Americas gay parades, feminie guys and destabilization of countries while not caring about how many people they kill. Russians think Americans are stupid for following leaders like Obama and McCain.
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OT: Beta Of The Year:
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He has time to unlearn
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I think that’s actually a girl.
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on February 26, 2015 at 7:41 pm | Reply Anonymous
I have an acquittance who by most standards would be considered Alpha. Is ex military, big time lifter, great big truck, police officer, etc…
This guy is the biggest damn women cheer-leader who put a tattoo of his wife’s name on his arm and constantly talks about how his wife is so great at running their finances. His wife is a spoiled little witch with a fat butt and a negative, complaining attitude. She needs to be bitch slapped. One time I turned the sound up on the radio for a song I liked and she strutted over to the radio and changed the station. I slapped her fat ass while her 300 pound husband looked on in disbelief. She was not ready for it. He is constantly playing White Knight and making like he wants to make sure I am not a mean husband.
When he was growing up his mom used to take him with her when she would go smoke weed and fornicate with other men. His dad was very passive.
on February 26, 2015 at 8:27 pm | Reply SpartanTom
Thanks for sharing.
While we’re here though, just because he lifts and has all of these “alpha” things in his history does not make him alpha. Alpha is an attitude, do what you want, when you want.
It’s possible he COULD be alpha and have a tattoo of his wife on his nut sack, but he would need to still be his own man and chose this of his own volition as part of his mission. He did it of his own accord and is willing to walk when she tells him to shave his scrote and he doesn’t want to.
on March 1, 2015 at 5:39 pm Anonymous
“If this is real, then it is just screaming “Cuckoldry Fantasy” and “Latent Homosexuality”-
Captain Obvious, please explain yourself. I sometimes feel like he wishes I would bang his wife but maybe that is my imagination? He did have pictures of body builders in his garage once with grotesque looking muscles….
on February 27, 2015 at 5:54 am | Reply Captain Obvious
> “I slapped her fat ass while her 300 pound husband looked on in disbelief… When he was growing up his mom used to take him with her when she would go smoke weed and fornicate with other men. His dad was very passive.”
PLEASE tell us that you are making up this shit. Please.
on February 27, 2015 at 5:55 am Captain Obvious
If this is real, then it is just screaming “Cuckoldry Fantasy” and “Latent Homosexuality”.
on February 27, 2015 at 6:09 am Captain Obvious
Or maybe his Dad was such a fucking loser that the kid has no idea what it means to be masculine? Maybe certain aspects of masculinity need to be TAUGHT? Maybe what he thinks is masculine – woman rules the roost == “Everybody Loves Raymond” && monster truck == “Built Ford Tough” commercials – was learned from watching television and he’s just behaving the way that he thinks he’s supposed to behave?
on March 1, 2015 at 5:25 pm Anonymous
“PLEASE tell us that you are making up this shit. Please.”
I wish I could but truth is stranger than fiction. In fact last time we got together I asked him again if that really happened and he said it did a few times but his dad had problems too like drinking too much. lol
on March 1, 2015 at 5:33 pm Anonymous
“Built Ford Tough” WOW, funny you say that because he bought a dually Ford Truck which he worships. In fact if you say anything bad about Ford he gets upset. Pretty amazing stuff. Gosh I hate to say this but the blue pills that the military gives their guys is potent stuff.
on February 27, 2015 at 8:06 am | Reply Anonymous
Military and police don’t say alpha. They say brainwashed pawn and white knight. Anyone who joined s the military or police at this point deserves whatever the hajis or soon to be revolutionaries are dishing out.
on February 27, 2015 at 9:37 am | Reply Sean Fielding
Seems like fantasy trolling alright. But suppose it’s true.
I believe physiognomy is like chastity and race – something our ancestors knew in their bones but we’re in denial over.
By the common BMI tables, a 300 pounder has to be 7 feet tall or more to qualify as not obese, and 7’8″ or more to qualify as not overweight. And though these formulas don’t quite work for the extremely muscular, I have to assume the ‘pal’ is not named Klitschko or Valuev. With his background and BMI, he’s got to be a tall, very overweight mesomorph.
My guess is that the percentage of men in that group with much womanizing skill is close to zero. They are born to be conventional alphas at best, convention’s pawns at worst, as pointed out.
on March 1, 2015 at 5:29 pm Anonymous
The fact that you are calling fantasy confirms my thoughts about how crazy this was. His mom came over from Germany and met his dad there while he was in the military. He is about 275 and and around 6′ 1″.
Mom ended up divorcing his dad. He admitted that his mom is bi polar and had quite the sex drive.
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Field report – the state of the union
I don’t post a lot because the tools you have all given me lead me to be a pretty busy guy. This one I had to write up because it was something different and something telling.
A few months ago I made a post for no strings hookup. One of responses was from a woman in another state. She was very flattering toward me for my pic but more for my post; it was gruff, short, direct, specific and used non-pc language to ward of men from responding. We exchanged a few emails where she explained she felt unfulfilled by the nightlife in her city. I said, “hey, in another life…take it easy” she said she might visit someday; I threw cold water on it, not looking to put any long term thoughts in her head.
…A few months later, I get an email that she is coming to my city and has purchased plane tickets. I told her she had better have her own place to stay and explained my time with her would be limited to 1 meetup. she wanted to press on…
This weekend she was here. I had the longest, most enjoyably depraved bout of sex in my life. Checked a lot of boxes. Not going to get into the nitty gritty but she was a goddamn maneater…and I tamed the tiger.
When I met up with her (in public), I spent about 30 minutes feeling her out to make sure she wasn’t boil-a-bunny crazy. What followed was a sad indictment of the current state of beta males. She complained about the men and the women in her city. The men were soft, overweight, sedentary betas. They couldn’t handle her sex drive, directness, or need for a strong man. She said she had stopped dating for x number of months prior to coming out to meet me because the guys just weren’t worth it. The women were all fat, entitled, bossy in a “born on third base and think they hit a home run” way, and of course, SJWs. If a table next to you is too loud, the shhhhh policy show up. Basically, liberal feminists run amok. *Shudder*
She was attractive, fit, and petite, as far as looks go. Not long term material but good enough for a one night stand. Plus she was extremely direct and specific about what she liked sexually. It didn’t take much time to decide to head to a bed.
When it was all said and done, she had perma-smile. Multiple o’s. But heres the kicker: she basically worshipped me. I have never had this happen before. Very different. It was like I was Conan the destroyer and she was a girl in my harem. She moved over me catlike, she played with my chest hair, kissed and caressed every part of my body, basically acted like a cat when you give it catnip lol. I have had stuff similar to this happen before (laying on my chest, playing with chest hair, some girlish fawning, the ol’ pillow talk). This was unequivocally beyond that. I could have done anything to her and she would have done anything I said (trust me, I verified). She would have been happy to do this shit all day and night, apparently. It was strange, unfamiliar and extremely hot. It was the most manly I have ever felt; the confidence is dripping off of me currently.
All it cost me was $20.00. I took her to 2 well known food places but nowhere touristy. She flew to another state and all she got was marathon sex and a fast food. Didn’t give her a place to stay or act as chauffeur.
Heres what I did:
1. Shut the fuck up. Didn’t talk at all while driving or waiting for food. Answered her questions with brevity. Asked few questions but good ones (some from the list posted a few weeks ago on this site – the ones from the NYT).
2. Brought the wood. I think this more than anything is what made her believe my alpha state. Giving a chick mind blowing orgasms makes their hamster pretty much forget/justify anything they don’t like about you lol.
3. Body language in public. I let her caress/be lovey-dovey in bed after sex. But in public it was like she was a stranger. This of course made her want to constantly touch me/show other women she was with me. I would slightly shift or move away from her, enough to train her that she cant, aside from the occasional hand carass (her to me).
4. Wasn’t afraid to argue/disagree with her. She kept trying to get me to see things from her perspective. If it made sense to mine, I would give me slight agreement. If it didn’t, I called bullshit.
5. Set up (false haha) time constraints. Made her freak out, kept trying to buy more time with me lol.
6. Was fun & playful, especially in bed. My roommate said all he heard all night was moaning then giggling, then moaning then giggling etc.
This post was not to brag, believe it or not. I felt it was my obligation to write this because CH is doing more for men than anyone else and this story provides anecdotal proof that following red pill truths and the 16 commandants of poon leads to real world success. Proof that there are unsatisfied women who will literally fly to another state for a taste of alpha. Thank you fuckers, I love you all.
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Never tire of field reports.
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I know the high you’re feeling. I’ve been there. It changes your life.
It’s the feeling of a red pill being fully digested.
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haha thanks guys. You are right, it has changed my life for the better times infinity. God bless
…time for me to make another donation to this website’s fine proprietor…must thank our Dark Lord.
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“Fully digested” lol Boy, your thin knuckles are going to be curling faster than your toes from the sting of yet another lashing quicker than you can rewind your favorite episode of Glee.
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“…A few months later, I get an email that she is coming to my city and has purchased plane tickets.”
What one needs to realize is how underrated and understated this point is. This guy did not really game her into coming except to be aloof and act like he did not care. Can not stress this enough to some guys when they start talking about some gal rejected them. Just plant the seed and move on! You will be surprised at what happens a few months later.
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How often did radio silence work for you? Just curious given our discussions here.
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“How often did radio silence work for you? Just curious given our discussions here.”
It was my cornerstone game. Eventually I had many sea urchins. Quick Picker upper game was never my strength so I played to my strength. Connect and if there is ANY type of disinterest I move on INSTEAD of placate.
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“It was my cornerstone game. Eventually I had many sea urchins. Quick Picker upper game was never my strength so I played to my strength. Connect and if there is ANY type of disinterest I move on INSTEAD of placate.”
I believe it. But it’s still counter-intuitive to me, at least on the scale you’re describing. Ignoring a girl you’re interested in indefinitely is challenging.
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“A girl I met on POF last year reached out to me. She turned me down twice for a date, so I deleted her number and eventually forgot about her, until today.
Her: Hellloooo is this still Benson’s phone?”
Benson, What the hell is this!!!
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“Ignoring a girl you’re interested in indefinitely is challenging.”
…and that my friend is your issue.
Have you followed this through yet? You can’t marry someone that you are head over heels in love with…….
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“’A girl I met on POF last year reached out to me. She turned me down twice for a date, so I deleted her number and eventually forgot about her, until today.
Her: Hellloooo is this still Benson’s phone?’
Benson, What the hell is this!!!”
Don’t know what you mean. Elaborate, please.
“Ignoring a girl you’re interested in indefinitely is challenging.”
…and that my friend is your issue.”
I should have added that although it’s been difficult, I’ve been out of contact with the ex-GF for over a month. And the girl you said was shit testing me by refusing a date hasn’t gotten a text or call in a week.
So I’m sticking with it. I said it was counter-intuitive, not impossible.
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“’A girl I met on POF last year reached out to me. She turned me down twice for a date, so I deleted her number and eventually forgot about her, until today.
Her: Hellloooo is this still Benson’s phone?’
Benson, What the hell is this!!!'”
Still wondering what you meant by this.
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re: kerry and obama shoulder grab
These types of things are good to return and amplify IMO. Recently:
I had this leftist, tall, clown type beta male, an acquaintance of mine…. he walked up to me at the pub, him being 6’3″ or so and me being 5’8, placed his hand on top of my head and said some sort of demeaning greeting….
To which I maneuvered away from quickly asked him in an ornery fashion why he was touching me, followed by a “do you like it when people touch you” question immediately followed by me slapping his ass with all my might. He went red like a cherry pop and I have not had any trouble from him since. He actually socially validates me now constantly, trying to get my attention, tell me stories, etc.
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http://www.thevintagenews.com/2015/02/21/the-posters-that-warned-against-the-horrors-of-a-world-with-womens-rights/
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@culum Struan – some further observations on cadence and day game for you.
In my local coffee shop. One thing I’ve started doing much more of is being ‘open” to new interactions and this starts with your positioning and body language. So if for example there is a counter, take a seat facing away from the counter, toward the room. Try and position yourself near the flow of people or where they will congregate. Don’t look at your phone. Be open to the room. Much easier to engage people, observe IOI’s etc. And open everyone who comes to sit by you.
So I am doing this and open a mid 30’s married women with “your profile, it’s the exact same as my buddy’s daughter. ” which leads to how often she comes here (not seen before) because he is usually with me and I want to point her out to him etc. She is all smiles, gets her coffee and splits. 90% of women you speak to enjoy the interaction, even if it’s not going to go anywhere.
So now I am by myself and break my rule above to be open and turn to face the counter and read my phone. Of course I miss a tall slim 20YO hippy girl with a nose ring (running into a lot of these recently) , who has taken the stool next to me. LOL. Put my phone down and see she has a bag with “be the change you want to see in the world” written on it. Perfect. Convo goes like this:
M:So what kind of change do you want to see in the world? (incidentally this is a great open question that probes dreams and is emotional) with full eye contact.
H: Ohhhh. (a little flustered) Ha hahahaha. I guess I’d like to see the regime in North Korea overturned.
So this is a unique response and we get into how she would go about it (lame) and that she is in college nearby and is an International Affairs major. I tease her if The Interview was the best vehicle to attempt this change, So she is laughing at this,and I tease her about James Franco… Then she turns around to me, and this is the part you may find interesting, the pacing, the story telling, the routine (which I plan on using again with the same opener) – and asks me what kind of change i would like to see in the world. I have my coffee on the counter, which is a great prop and a great way to take focus off and put focus back on you and helps with the pacing.
M: I guess I would like to see more honesty in the world. Right? [eye contact, nod my head a bit, pause while she starts to nod her head] I mean all our interactions are becoming so dishonest [pause pause pause maintain laser eye] and… [pause] unnatural [doing this to set the stage for attraction is natural etc.]. Don’t even get me started on politicians today.
H: I know right!!! haha.
M:[pause holding eye contact then reach out across my body slowly get the coffee cup, looking away from her – she is following my movements – and slowly bring it up to my face, now looking back at her with the laser eye and take a long sip, lick my lips a little then slowly place it back down on the counter go back to full laser eye] I guess [pause] it started for me at a really young age [pause pause] my parents [pause] they were lying to me…
H: Ohhhh really!!!???
M: Yeah [pause laser eye serious expression] it messed me up you know [head nod, she is nodding along, pause] every year they would do the same thing [pause] I mean FOR YEARS this lying went on [a little hand gesture and volume for emphasis – maintain laser eye – she is leaning forward following this – i pause hear and go through the slow slip of coffee turn away and turn back routine stretching out the anticipation keeping laser eye, turn back to her] aaahhhhhh [pause laser eye] I just couldn’t believe there wasn’t a Santa Claus, you know?
H: ohhhh. hahahahahahahahahahahah. [touches my forearm]
So a lot of words to convey a 4 minute interaction but I think you can get a good sense from this how you can get emotional reactions pretty quickly. Ultimately this didn’t go anywhere, since it was too close to home. She was meeting a chode (not to pick on anybody, just descriptive – he was very anxious when he saw us chatting so close) and when he came she got her coffee and they took off. She gave me her name though and we shook hands. A seed planted. But she got what was unexpected from a stranger – a bit of the roller coaster, a random interruption of the routines of life, and good emotions.
Have fun.
Will be curious to see if this post goes through BTW – still have stuff in mod from 3 days ago…
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I like it and will be stealing this. Possibly tomorrow.
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Ditto lol that Santa shit is a solid rollercoaster story told right. Will likely steal it myself, I can see dropping it into my rapport toolbox ’cause honesty/lying segues nicely into my standard routines about how I don’t lie to girls to get them into bed etc.
Also good on the lasers. When you do a lot of solid lasering your interactions don’t even really NEED to be clever because everything is on the subcommunication level, like my buddy sends me Field Reports where he’s like “fuck this sounds retarded re-reading it but we were lasering eachother the whole time” and it’s like oh ok that makes sense then lol
But if you can get lasers going AND drop something clever like this, told with lots of build-up and pauses etc., that shit can be killer because it’s very rare for her to meet a guy that can do all that at once congruently and smoothly.
Also props for opening in the daytime.
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“In my local coffee shop. One thing I’ve started doing much more of is being ‘open” to new interactions and this starts with your positioning and body language. So if for example there is a counter, take a seat facing away from the counter, toward the room. Try and position yourself near the flow of people or where they will congregate. Don’t look at your phone. Be open to the room. Much easier to engage people, observe IOI’s etc. And open everyone who comes to sit by you……. So now I am by myself and break my rule above to be open and turn to face the counter and read my phone.”
FWIW, I have noticed in coffee shops that when I go find a spot with other open chairs around me and then settle in it is not too long before a women decides to sit next to me. These women choose me. I have come to believe that when a women sits next to you she is making a statement of interest.
It was when I positioned myself for interaction that it seemed to frighten women off. I think it is like a deer. They can be frightened easily so they kind of slowly check to see if it is safe before they move toward the feeder. I just need to sit calmly in my deer stand and let them get in position. For me it is better this way in day game. Now when I walk into a restaurant/bay it is different as women show no fear of raping me with their eyes.
Again it may be different with others but I put off a strong vibe which I am trying calibrate.
Funny but I remember when I was single and went to the apartment pool to chill on a lounge chair. A 9 came down and sat right next to me. It was a bit shocking. One thing led to another and before I knew it we were having dinner then banging all night. Huge tits. ,
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@Putin
“I have come to believe that when a women sits next to you she is making a statement of interest.”
Ya, we call it pAImAI which is a retarded abbreviation/term for basically “she could pick anywhere else in the room to stand/sit but she picked a spot right beside you or right in your line of vision”.
Here’s like a 20 page article from 2006 breaking it down lol:
http://ipua.blogspot.ca/2006/07/interesting-article-paimai-by.html#c115184892567703422
Naturals are EXTREMELY sensitive to pAImAI from a girl, but normal guys are completely oblivious to it and talk themselves out of it when they DO see it.
I once caught it in action full-stop. Two girls literally running around a nightclub trying to put themselves in my line of vision over and over, it was the funniest thing I ever saw and couldn’t believe it was happening because I always thought it was a subconscious/subtle thing but they were full out booking it. They didn’t realize I had noticed them already and knew what they were doing so to test it I kept going to different areas in the club (including different rooms) to stand/sit and face different directions and the second I moved toward the next spot they’d start moving to stand/sit in front of me wherever I decided to stop. They weren’t subtle about it at all, I remember seeing the one girl grabbing the other’s arm like “let’s go, he’s on the move!”
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If a beautiful woman is within six feet of me, my laydar starts pinging.
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“Ya, we call it pAImAI”
YaReally, Seems to line up with my own observations.
The other evening I was in a coffee shop just looking at my phone. Within 30 minutes I had deer all around. One gal moved her study materials from a table to a seat next to me. Then there were 3 gals who stopped at the door and started to look over and giggle. Finally one walked over to the trash can next to me so as to throw something away while the other two watched with baited breath. Was classic stuff.
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@YaReally This…and one other small observation. When a girl you’re gaming “Likes” a post on Facebook…it’s an IOI.
This is not the same as a random girl or a “friend” “liking” something.
A girl I gamed but then ignored suddenly started to “like” posts of mine…it’s a way of her just pinging me…
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Got opened randomly today by a young librarian as I walked past and by a woman banker at another teller window.
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@theasdgamer – LOL at “laydar” – I’m stealing that.
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@ Yareally
Noticed that a broad was telling me where she was on a night she was dancing but I wasn’t there. And that her husband hadn’t been coming to that venue on that night for a few weeks. It’s like she was trying to bait me into showing up on that night. Trying to get my attention. Maybe trying to get me to ask if her husband would be at the venue on a particular night? Seems a lot like pAImAI. Or maybe reverse pAImAI? Or is it trying to set up a meetup? Or just engage in the Chase? It “feels” like she wants me to show up at the venue on that night. Laydar.
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@Sentient – just saw this. Not sure when it popped up – good stuff
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@Sentient – just read the whole post through properly – LOL at Santa. I’m definitely stealing that. Need to practice this laser eye stuff a lot more though.
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This comment section got gayer than a Finnish postage stamp in record time.
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This example is NOT A&A. This is more like a passive-aggressive/cynical, and mostly sarcastic. And the girl’s response? A joke. She’s either kid, or desperate. A woman who’s used to being hit on will see right through his comment.
The example is not worthy of being shown here CH!
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“This example is NOT A&A. ”
Yes, it is. I’ve used many just like it with much success. He took her lame ass excuse all the way to its absurd conclusion–and got her phone number.
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Unrelated to the thread but if YaReally and others could weigh in on this:
I’m 29. Matched on tinder today with a 21 y.o. chick with big tits and good facial features. Her bio says “send me your favorite joke”. I open with a line I’ve used before with some success..
(I’m French canadian so the first part is in french.)
-ME: I like fish.
HER: That’s not a good joke.
-ME: A joke? That’s a statement.
HER: Oh. Alright. I said that because of my bio
-ME: I’m not into jokes. Go ahead and try one if you want, though.
HER: Hahahahaha no its ok
-ME: Can’t imagine the lame jokes you must have gotten by now. Mercy..
HER: Not really in fact!
HER: I got some good ones.
-ME: Just wait. So, what do you do besides contemporary dance and taking pictures with drinks in your hand?
HER: You’re right I am drunk in most of my photos
HER: I’m not into dancing, I’m at the circus school of (city) [an academy for circus-related performing arts here] going on 4 years now, I’m originally from California. Which explains my shitty orthograph.
-ME: Oh, we might as well switch now then. Thank god [we switch to english at this point.
HER: Hahahahaha what’s your deal then?
-ME: Flirting in french is such a pain.
HEr: Yeah clearly if your line is that you like fish.
HER: So where are you from?
-ME: My openers are tested and proven.
HER: I just don’t believe that at all
HER: Like how do girls usually respond to that and how does it then get you laid?
HER: Or a date or whatever you are looking for
-ME: Look at you, all intrigued and shit.
HER: I find tinder fascinating
-ME: You’ll get over it.
HER: Tinder, or you?
-ME: The former. Don’t get ahead of yourself.
HER: Sorry, I’ll play it cool now.
-ME: So. What makes a bubbly, perky Cali girl decide to leave her home state to come to this wonderful frozen shitholle we call [city]
HER: Hahahaha
HER: Sorry let me laugh at the fact that nobody has ever used those two words to describe me before.
-ME: Oh please.
HER: Please what.
HER: I’m serious! But moving on, I’m at at the circus school of [city]
HER: What are you doing here and where are you from and yes I’m intrigued just accept it.
-ME: I heard that the first time. That the reason?
HER: Hahahahahajsjs
HER Ok I’m focused now
-ME: Good.
-ME: All these questions. Am I gonna get a job out of this or what?
HER: Nope no job
HER: SO I explained why I’m here and you are still mystery man.
-ME: I spent a few months at the circus school last year. Love that place.
-ME: And don’t get your hopes up, I’m not that exotic.
HER: Wait really?
HER: DOing what?
-ME: Yeah.
-ME: Basic acro stuff. Nothing fancy.
HER: That’s so funny I bet I’ve seen you before.
-ME: Maybe. I do remember seeing a busty chick there every once in a while.
-ME: What’s your specialty?
HER: Ah the charm doesn’t stop
HER: Handstands
-ME: I should have guessed.
-ME: Listen. I gotta go soon, why don’t you leave me your number so we can exchange a few more pleasantries over texts. I don’t like spending that much time on tinder.
HER: [number]
I had decent text game already but reading CH and YA’s archives helped me step it up a little. So with this one I’ve built some attraction, maintained a healthy dose of mystery, teased, kept my frame (didn’t open with a joke as would be expected, didn’t answer questions when prompted to do so) and left her wanting more.
Now I’m leaving for the weekend on friday. So I’m hesitating between asking her out for drinks on thursday or holding out til next week, with some text game inbetween. I’m also hesitating what would be best to text her tomorrow (this is tinder, gotta move quickly after all). I was thinking something along the lines of “So, got lucky on tinder so far?” which I could maneuver into sex talk pretty easily. All suggestions welcome.
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“HER: Like how do girls usually respond to that and how does it then get you laid?
HER: Or a date or whatever you are looking for
-ME: Look at you, all intrigued and shit.”
I laughed.
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