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Baby Got Swayback

March 4, 2015 by CH

There’s a new(ly identified) attractiveness standard by which women are relentlessly judged for sexual, romantic, and yes, marital worth: The swayback. Reader Experienced Father passes along the relevant study.

This paper reports independent studies supporting the proposal that human standards of attractiveness reflect the output of psychological adaptations to detect fitness-relevant traits. We tested novel a priori hypotheses based on an adaptive problem uniquely faced by ancestral hominin females: a forward-shifted center of mass during pregnancy. The hominin female spine possesses evolved morphology to deal with this adaptive challenge: wedging in the third-to-last lumbar vertebra. Among ancestral women, vertebral wedging would have minimized the net fitness threats posed by hypolordosis and hyperlordosis, thereby creating selective pressures on men to prefer such women as mates. On this basis, we hypothesized that men possess evolved mate preferences for women with this theoretically optimal angle of lumbar curvature. […]

Men again tended to prefer women exhibiting cues to a degree of vertebral wedging closer to optimum. This included preferring women whose lumbar curvature specifically reflected vertebral wedging rather than buttock mass. These findings reveal novel, theoretically anchored, and previously undiscovered standards of attractiveness.

The optimal swayback looks like the middle female silhouette:

The woman with no swayback too closely resembles a prepubescent boy. The woman with excessive swayback looks like a scoliotic whore who spent too may nights leaning into the open car windows of johns. The woman in the middle is juuuuuust tight.

It’s theorized that women with a 45 degree curvature of the lower spine are best adapted for squatting on their haunches and foraging for food. Over time, men would’ve come to prefer this female body shape because it indicated better fitness at the job of gathering nuts, berries, and other huthold objects.

I don’t know if this study controlled for race, but I bet one that does would find that the male preference for swayback is more cross-racially universal than is the male preference for bloated booty, which black men favor more.

Anyhow, more lab confirmation of the CH formulations based on real-world observations that biomechanics is god, love is a tender effusion stimulated in men by small adjustments in the geometric contours of the female face and body, and feminists are butthurt loons.

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  1. on March 4, 2015 at 11:33 am Baby Got Swayback | Manosphere.com

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  2. on March 4, 2015 at 11:47 am Arbiter

    Wearing high heels improves swayback, it seems. That’s the real reason for their popularity, not that “they are a symbol for imprisoning women” as the feminists would have it.

    the male preference for bloated booty, which black men favor more.

    I think they talk about big asses (or the media establishment has chosen it for them to talk about) because that’s the only thing they can mention about their women. They certainly can’t talk about complexion, light skin tone, refined manners, fine facial traits or long, lush hair. If they’d truly love big asses so much, why would they lust more for women from all other races than their own? As everyone knows, and as response frequency in OkCupid amusingly shows.

    Not to be confused with a firm and round ass. Those bloated asses don’t even look like they are part of the body. It’s like bodybuilders on steroids that make them look like balloon animals – the extra muscles look like they are slapped on outside the body. (There is a reason actors like Henry Cavill get buff, not abnorm.)

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    • on March 4, 2015 at 11:59 am Amy

      Women are actually getting butt implants now. It’s insane. As a young white woman, though, you really do get the message from the media that big butts are sexy, and that most men find them sexy, even on thin girls.

      [CH: most of the butt implant stories come from brazil, a place filled to brimming with mulatto women who are trying to attract, you know, less white-ish men.]

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      • on March 4, 2015 at 12:21 pm llllooooolllzzzzzlllolll

        Just do squats.

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      • on March 4, 2015 at 12:26 pm llllooooolllzzzzzlllolll

        FFUUUUUUuuuck, Amy. Which one is you? Id cum in all of you but I need to know which cum receptacle Im addressing.

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      • on March 4, 2015 at 12:39 pm theasdgamer

        Butt implants, huh. Would explain the prevalence of butthurtedness in women.

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      • on March 4, 2015 at 1:08 pm Aspie Nerd

        “you really do get the message from the media that big butts are sexy”

        Yeah, and you also get the message from the media that men are attracted to young, slim women: ain’t that insane??

        “and that most men find them sexy, even on thin girls.”

        ONLY on reasonably thin girls. It’s called low WHR.

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      • on March 4, 2015 at 1:11 pm Laguna Beach Fogey

        Some of them also wear special “ass pads” in lieu of implant surgery. Several years ago I briefly dated a woman who wore one. Not attractive.

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      • on March 4, 2015 at 1:15 pm Ang Aamer

        what CH said

        Breasts are all that matter – all you have to look at is the response rate of black women on OK Cupid to see this “big butt” meme is nothing but black women feel good fiction.

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      • on March 4, 2015 at 2:19 pm mendozatorres

        Well played, theasdgamer!

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      • on March 4, 2015 at 6:46 pm Anonymous

        Don’t worry Amy, there are still plenty of small Penised low testosterone having white men who have no choice but to like white women with flat asses and no hips because they can’t please women larger than a size 0, because their penises would not be felt.

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      • on March 4, 2015 at 7:09 pm Ohiomega

        http://imgur.com/N7N8ZzE

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      • on March 5, 2015 at 11:26 am aspergeryone

        The one on the far left is considerably less attractive than all the others. I’ll bet you that that is Amy.

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      • on March 5, 2015 at 4:36 pm Putin

        “Just do squats.”

        Exactly llllooooolllzzzzzlllolll. Maybe that is too much work for them.

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    • on March 4, 2015 at 12:19 pm llllooooolllzzzzzlllolll

      Black men will fuck anything. And they orefer white women with huge asses. If you want to get bkack guys riled up (i know its easy but work with me here), tell them Kim Kardashians ass is fake.

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    • on March 4, 2015 at 12:25 pm llllooooolllzzzzzlllolll

      High Heels do nake them look sexier but when you realize the damage theyre doing, and how those shoes ruin their feet and give them bunions..BLEECCH

      How a nigga appose ‘a suck a bitch toes during anal mish if they all deformed and shit??

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    • on March 4, 2015 at 6:43 pm Anonymous

      BLACK men go for,other races of women because THEY CAN and also to laugh at hater ass white men and make White men look and feel stupid.

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      • on March 4, 2015 at 9:05 pm Philomathean

        Whiskey?

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      • on March 5, 2015 at 2:06 am l82dagame

        Black men put white pussy on a pedasal. 9/10 times, the white pussy that does come their way is either fat, extremely tatted up/pierced, weird hairstyle, or feminist/SJW. The amount of normal looking, non-tatted, well adjusted white girls from a nuclear family that become mud sharks is in fact lower than the lesbian rate. Which brings up another point, damn near every lesbian white chick is with another white chick. There is just something in our DNA that attracts us to the right sexual partners. The vast majority will find a healthy partner of their own race. A certain small percentage of the population will carry negative genetic traits which will make them attracted to the same sex, a different race, people with significant genetic defects (dwarfism, etc.) or people who haven’t reached puberty or are approaching/beyond their sexual reproductive phase.

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      • on March 5, 2015 at 3:45 am Philomathean

        I82,

        An intact family with original mother and father is paramount for the development of healthy White female sexual psychology. Black male/White female sexual relationships are, for the White woman, a rejection of her father, of his absence, whether that absence was physical, emotional or both … for her melanin rich lover, a status symbol that marks his triumph over White men in general and a rejection of his negritude specifically(the latter sublimates itself to an affirmation of same).

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  3. on March 4, 2015 at 11:49 am elmer

    I’ll never forget the first time I saw a SE Asian woman squatting with her feet on on the seat of a western-style commode. They say that posture is better for pooping and delivering babies.

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    • on March 4, 2015 at 12:20 pm llllooooolllzzzzzlllolll

      It is. Labor in hospitals is ridiculously ccounterproductive. And our toilets are just as retarded.

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      • on March 4, 2015 at 8:50 pm WillBest

        I only know what I have seen my wife do three times, and they basically pin you into a squatting position while you are on a 30-45 degree incline plane so that the doctor can get in there.

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      • on March 5, 2015 at 12:03 pm Amy

        Sure, you’ve got gravity helping you out. I always heard that women having babies lying on their back is for the benefit of the doctor. As for toilets, squatting is a must just for the germ factor. One of the most valuable lessons my mom taught me is how to use a public bathroom without having any part of the toilet or handles touch my bare skin. Lol

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      • on March 9, 2015 at 4:06 pm SC

        Yup, it’s the one thing that White Americans do more stupidly than Black Africans. In many Sub-Saharan African societies, the woman in labor simply stands in squatting position and has another woman kneeling down and ready to catch the baby when it drops down. White American doctors (and also Jewish American doctors) somehow don’t understand that gravity is useful.

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    • on March 4, 2015 at 12:42 pm Laguna Beach Fogey

      And for squatting on dick, surely.

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    • on March 4, 2015 at 1:56 pm Harland

      Yeah, I’ve had my toilet seat broken by bitches doing that before. No fun.

      Not the “squat toilets are better” argument again. Your phone and keys fall to the floor, it’s murder on the knees, and the supposed cleanliness factor is used as an excuse to have filthy, stinky bathrooms. After all, your butt never touches the seat so why bother cleaning every week?

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    • on March 4, 2015 at 2:58 pm Anonymous

      this is how I poop now, If I can swing it, obviously not always at work, but it really does make a difference, no straining, just smooth

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  4. on March 4, 2015 at 11:50 am Baby Got Swayback | Neoreactive

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  5. on March 4, 2015 at 11:50 am cloudswrest

    Technical term is “Lordosis”, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lordosis

    See also sexual “Lordosis behavior”, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lordosis_behavior

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    • on March 4, 2015 at 8:59 pm WillBest

      Interesting because the result of pushing your breasts forward would be to simultaneously increase your swayback.

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  6. on March 4, 2015 at 11:53 am mack

    Yeah, I would like to know how the degree of swayback (depth measurement)correlates to the horizontal sway or swish of a women’s walk.

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    • on March 4, 2015 at 12:00 pm elmer

      We musn’t let these gender-based biomechanical stereotypes from allowing women in combat. My first wife once had a gig measuring women’s breasts to determine the human factors of nipple chaffing caused by male-centric military clothing. A more unisex uniform styling then being the subject of great inquiry.

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  7. on March 4, 2015 at 12:03 pm SuperFucker!

    I can’t stop chuckling at what a karmic backlash this for the feminist push for looser norms for women’s sexuality. Now that it’s socially acceptable for a woman to show off her entire body, either by wearing yoga pants, tight-fitting jeans, or nothing at all (via porn), guys get to see EXACTLY what’s on offer. And for most women, it’s not much.

    A perfect waist/ass is a VERY difficult thing to fake, even with butt surgery butchering. The vast majority of them would better off if skirts that showed too much ankle were still considered scandalous.

    I wonder how nature will respond over the next ten years. More subterfuge via a feminist push back to more conservative clothing?

    They’ve royally screwed themselves either way.

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    • on March 4, 2015 at 12:32 pm elmer

      You are probably too young to remember the “braless look” of the early 1970s when barely concealed nipples were all the rage. Sadly the effects of gravity worked their relentless force on all those once-pert breasts and the fashion waned.

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      • on March 4, 2015 at 12:42 pm llllooooolllzzzzzlllolll

        I love the braless look especially on flat girls. Fuck i dont care if theyre saggy if I can see those nips shaking in the wind. In manhattan especially the village and soho, the sluts are always braless. I think they want me to jerk it in front of them, what do you think?

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      • on March 4, 2015 at 12:49 pm SuperFucker!

        Perhaps in a few years when aging women get tired of trying to cram yoga and boot camp classes into every free minute of their day, and they accept the inevitability of their sagging asses, the yoga pants will fade into fashion history too.

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      • on March 4, 2015 at 1:04 pm fredmertz

        Thats the look sported by Bruce Jenner….

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      • on March 4, 2015 at 2:23 pm mendozatorres

        There’s a girl here at work that seems like she goes braless cause when she’s walking, them beauties are moving freely. Has great legs too.

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    • on March 4, 2015 at 12:41 pm SuperFucker!

      The other magnificent right hook the Ass Trend takes at feminists is that it affirms the male preference for younger women, since asses coincidentally hit their ideal shape, firmness, and texture just as women hit their prime fertility window.

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      • on March 4, 2015 at 1:56 pm K

        i think you’ve got something there. seems as though women’s breasts and asses are the first to go when a girl hits the wall. when a girl is firm and plump in all the right places, it’s probably a good indicator of fertility.

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    • on March 4, 2015 at 3:41 pm Tam the Bam

      I don’t pine for the return of the bustle and corset, personally.

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  8. on March 4, 2015 at 12:11 pm cheesetrader

    How about lardbark? Ooooh – sexy fatkinis!1!11 Barf

    https://www.yahoo.com/style/size-22-model-tess-holliday-says-fatkinis-make-her-112693314868.html

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    • on March 4, 2015 at 12:17 pm Amy

      “But self-acceptance also comes from external factors making one feel confident, and, as Holliday points out, the Sea by Monif C. line is made specifically for women sizes 14 to 24 and therefore features include boning, tummy tuck lining, underwire, and high-waisted two-pieces.”

      Do they not see the inherent contradiction? You’re not “embracing your size” if you’re buying shapewear designed to make you look thin.

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    • on March 4, 2015 at 3:29 pm Reco

      Why did you have to do that? Now I am ill.

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      • on March 4, 2015 at 6:21 pm KP

        Nobody make you click on the link, dude.

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    • on March 4, 2015 at 4:23 pm gaoxiaen

      No thanks.

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  9. on March 4, 2015 at 12:17 pm llllooooolllzzzzzlllolll

    Ive noticed that white women waaaaay down the chain, white trash level, are either hunched over or at the extreme 61 degree sway.

    Theres something so depressing about white trash. White people at the low end tend to exhibit all the classic tells that let you know they were pulled from the genetic trash heap. Whenever I go to the Englishtown, NJ flea market for used tools, I want to kill myself.

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    • on March 4, 2015 at 6:33 pm Anonymous

      True, but then at least borderline retarded white people have the courtesy of looking and acting like retards. They still have higher IQ than most blacks.

      There are Plenty of fine negro specimens out there with great symmetry, who will try and act smart or noble, with maximum pride and outward chutzpah, until you ask them to read out loud….

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  10. on March 4, 2015 at 12:28 pm j

    Manginas crying foul on ad campaign: http://edition.cnn.com/2015/03/04/sport/e3-harelbeke-cycling-sexism-poster/

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    • on March 4, 2015 at 12:45 pm cheesetrader

      We need more ads like that!

      Or this one which was banned in Britain

      http://boingboing.net/2015/02/25/uk-bans-worlds-thinnest-ph.html

      Chick is seriously hot

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      • on March 4, 2015 at 2:14 pm Eeyore

        Camilla Hansson, Miss Universe Sweden. Norway is represented by Elise Dalby. Enough said.

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      • on March 4, 2015 at 2:20 pm Greg Eliot

        Hannson looks like she could be from any Mediterranean nation… at least Dalby looks Scandinavian.

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  11. on March 4, 2015 at 12:30 pm Stationarity

    When you have a big belly, maybe you need a large ass to bring out the swayback.

    About a decade ago I became a licensed massage therapist. Several of the girls I worked on in class had that swayback even laying flat on the table. I didn’t need a study to inform me it’s bonerific.

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    • on March 4, 2015 at 12:31 pm llllooooolllzzzzzlllolll

      After looking at pictures of teen nudists, I might have to become one.

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  12. on March 4, 2015 at 12:38 pm theasdgamer

    Brazil. Reminds of a joke about whores and soccer players.

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    • on March 4, 2015 at 3:26 pm The Spirit Within

      Don’t tease us like that.

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      • on March 4, 2015 at 5:03 pm theasdgamer

        Picky, picky. How do you want to be teased?

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  13. on March 4, 2015 at 1:01 pm Corypheus

    Psychology today must be trolling feminists: 12 ways to spot a misogynist might as well be 12 ways to spot a man who is irresistible to women https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/the-mysteries-love/201502/12-ways-spot-misogynist

    Wasn’t there another study that said that sexist men do better with women?

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    • on March 4, 2015 at 1:08 pm cheesetrader

      The best part of that article is how they lay the “blame” at the feet of a traumatic experience caused by women….that’s gonna fry on fembrains

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    • on March 4, 2015 at 1:34 pm Aspie Nerd

      My understanding was that a misogynist is a man who hates the company of women. (Compare to misanthropist.)
      Now it has been redefined as a man who does everything that needs to be done, to enjoy the company of women.

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      • on March 4, 2015 at 2:01 pm Harland

        Misogyny = anti-Feminism. Two different things entirely, but they are used as synonyms by SJWs.

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    • on March 5, 2015 at 9:32 am Erudite Knight

      The comments to the article are pretty good, some red pill ones surprisingly.

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  14. on March 4, 2015 at 1:32 pm ohreally

    Most white women tend to have flatter butts so what would be the use of white men favoring an ample derriere. It’s far too rare to find among women in their race.

    It’s interesting that many white men tend to call themselves “breast men” when again their women don’t seem to have much going on in that department either.

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    • on March 4, 2015 at 1:47 pm llllooooolllzzzzzlllolll

      Plenty of white women have outstanding asses that stick out on their thin frames. Though these blogs talk a out then like theyre the ideal, women in the 50s and 60s had terrible soft bodies. No asses and they had soft guts. Flat asses are gross. Kate upton is disgusting.

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      • on March 4, 2015 at 5:52 pm K

        “No asses and they had soft guts. Flat asses are gross. Kate upton is disgusting.”

        agreed. do not understand the appeal of kate upton. she has the body of an out of shape manboob.

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      • on March 4, 2015 at 6:14 pm Harland

        “Women are only attractive who have washboard abs” is a very recent idea. A very corrosive one as well, women are supposed to have bellies. That’s where the baby goes.

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      • on March 6, 2015 at 12:03 am Heisenberg

        “Women are only attractive who have washboard abs” is a very recent idea. A very corrosive one as well, women are supposed to have bellies. That’s where the baby goes.”

        this is true. don’t like a big old beer gut of course but a nice little pooch on a woman is very attractive.

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    • on March 4, 2015 at 3:23 pm Neecy

      Agree. Most WM have no choice but to like flat butts because most all their women don’t have asses.

      [CH: this is false. plenty of white women have nice round asses. of course, compared to the jungle jiggle of black woman backstops, yeah, you could say white women asses are “flat”.]

      And many big breasts on White women are surgically placed and enhanced.

      Another thing White men with small penises are fit for flatter skinnier women.

      [you keep riding this hobbyhorse. do you have a lot of experience fitting small penises?]

      The reason ethnic (not just black) men like curvier women with bigger butts is because they are built penis wise to be able to please curvier women with bigger butts.

      [no. the reason is because they are r-selected and breed like rabbits, so they have no ability to appreciate the graceful feminine form of the more advanced races of women.]

      European men with small penises of course would be intimidated by bigger butts because they are not built to be able to please and handle women with such.

      [peter north cleaved.]

      That is why many White men prefer stick skinny women with FAKE boobs. That’s all they can please.

      [i understand that “stick” is black mamajama-ese for “height-weight proportionate”, but that doesn’t change the fact that black women have to push away form the table because as a lot they are fuckin humongous.]

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      • on March 4, 2015 at 3:56 pm eofahapi

        I do usualy like your comments Neecy. 🙂 . But that comment generalised a lot. Have you been to Europe?

        Believe me, we have thin women with good shapes, big breasts, and not silicone, but natural big breasts. There are beautiful white women with good shapes, as there are beautiful black women and other races also.

        Just because a man is not attracted to a woman does not mean he is “intimidated” by her. If a man does not like me, I am being vain to say he is just intimidated..instead of understanding, that actually maybe he just does not like how I look. We should understand men have their preferences, and to generalise all white men by saying they are “small” is not a correct argument. Maybe one man just does not like big buttocks, and maybe another man does. Some white men maybe love big buttocks, and some dont.

        I hate to play the racist card, but your comment was racist, and offensive. You just generalised by saying white women have flat buttocks and false breasts, and basically no shape. And that our men have undersized down there areas.
        I am not attacking you, I just had to give my opinion.

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      • on March 4, 2015 at 4:22 pm ChuckSteak

        “of course would be intimidated by bigger butt”

        lol

        That must be it! It can’t just be that fat black women repulse us. We’re just scared of them. Right…

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      • on March 4, 2015 at 5:45 pm Anonymous

        You just mad because big asses are only hot on chicks that are not black lol,

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      • on March 4, 2015 at 6:40 pm Anonymous

        youre just mad because your d!ck is too small to please a woman who isn’t the size and shape of a pubescent boy.

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      • on March 4, 2015 at 6:47 pm Ohiomega

        CH, are you really gonna refuse to swallow the tiny little red pill that black cocks are bigger, on average, than white ones?

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      • on March 4, 2015 at 6:48 pm Anonymous

        I didn’t say you were scared of Black women idiot. I SAID men with low testosterone and small penises (generally white males) are intimidated by juicer (NOT FAT ) women because their bodies are not equipped to please any women over a size 0 who looks like a teenage boy.

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      • on March 4, 2015 at 9:31 pm Philomathean

        Amazing.

        The small White penis thing can be roughly translated to: “I see this amazing world around me and my people have absolutely nothing to do with the creation or maintenance of any of it. That makes me sad, lowers my self esteem and irritates me on a level find difficult to articulate.”

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      • on March 4, 2015 at 9:48 pm NEE EE CEE

        uh oh I hit a nerve!!

        [CH: classic case of projection.]

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      • on March 5, 2015 at 3:04 am Lazy Hero

        Neecy ur a stupid nigger

        No one wants blacks. No one. U don’t matter. If u disappeared tomorrow the world would be relieved.

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      • on March 5, 2015 at 5:59 am Greg Eliot

        I’m not sure I understand this whole white women don’t have asses thing.

        Watch fewer Audrey Hepburn movies and more Marilyn Monroe, Sophia Loren, Jane Mansfield, and Jane Russel flicks….

        You fairies.

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      • on March 5, 2015 at 6:11 am Greg Eliot

        Neecy, if that’s you in the picture, you look to be in the ballpark of body type on how I likes mah wimmen… bigger breasts and hips but still proportionate, as in “looks like a woman, not a cage ball”.

        We just have to get together, my little chocolate drop, and dissuade each other of our respective prejudices in re small penii and negro arrogance… if only for the sake of chateau post quality.

        In short, mama… I’ll have you singing a different tune (or maybe whistlin’ Dixie) about YT’s Down Under endowments… and you can convince me that Pam Grier ain’t the only negress with a standing invitation to Schloss Eliot.

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      • on March 5, 2015 at 8:55 am ChuckSteak

        “I didn’t say you were scared of Black women idiot. I SAID men with low testosterone and small penises (generally white males) are intimidated by juicer (NOT FAT ) women”

        You contradicted yourself within a span of two sentences. I guess words just mean whatever you want them to mean at any given moment.

        No, I’m not “intimidated” by women who have shape. Women who resemble Marilyn Monroe’s form do not “intimidate” me. Black women who are simply obese or overweight (in your tard-speak of euphemisms, that would be “juicy” women) are simply repulsive to most non-black men. You interpret polite passivity (white men being embarrassed for black women due to their pathetic state) for “intimidation.” We’re not intimidated; we’re embarrassed for you. Even more so when you make sexual overtures towards us. But whatever you have to tell yourself to get you through the day.

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      • on March 5, 2015 at 9:03 am ChuckSteak

        White men may have less testosterone than blacks on average. And smaller penises. I’ll grant you that. But within the context of the entire human race, white men do not have small penises. They also don’t have the low IQ that so typifies black men. White men will gladly take twenty or thirty extra points of IQ (relative to the black average) over an extra inch or two of penis size. And unfortunately for you, the high testosterone that your men have also carries over a bit to the women of your race as well. Black women are not exactly…feminine…compared to other women. Blacks are just a masculine-ized race of people on extreme of the human spectrum; East Asians (who are highly feminized) are on the other. Caucasians seem to be right in between.

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      • on March 5, 2015 at 9:25 am Amy

        Huh? A small ass isn’t necessarily a flat ass, Neecy.

        I’m not an anatomy expert, but it seems to me that the penis size a woman can comfortably handle is more a function of sexual frequency and arousal level than ass size.

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      • on March 5, 2015 at 9:36 am Philomathean

        I’m inclined to belive the small penis insult is a tool propagated by the porn industry to demoralize White men specifically and White people generally. I’ve always found it curious because of my own length and girth. “You can’t handle dat” is a saying blacks lob at Whites when a black woman is present. What does that even mean? That I couldn’t satisfy her, that she’d make me cum quickly? They wrongly assume that 1) I have an interest is satisfying her and 2) her satisfaction would be a concern of mine.

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      • on March 5, 2015 at 11:05 am Anonymous

        Don’t bother replying to neecy

        She doesn’t know how averages work, especially when it comes to penises, neither does she have any experience with white guys because none would ever bang her. She doesn’t realise when she boasts about Dick-size that she’s also insulting those 80-90 per cent of black guys who are not significantly larger than the white average. Dicks are not really an amazing thing, only gay guys care intensely about that shit.

        Shes just trying to make excuses for the fact that black women are just not attractive to anyone. When guys of any race see a nice big booty from behind, with straight hair flowing just above, they are HORRIFIED when she turns around and turns out to be an ape-like black chick in disguise. DISSAPOINTMENT. Nevermind the fact that it’s hard to be fooled in the first place, because a black chicks legs often looks like a mans wearing drag!!!!

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      • on March 5, 2015 at 11:38 am ChuckSteak

        Like CH was saying above, it’s projection. They (being black men and women) assume that because black men are fine and even enjoy big fat asses and grotesque forms, that white men must as well. Deep down, we really want to fuck fat gross women; we’re just not up to the challenge of it. Right. May as well say that I don’t watch Maury or Jerry Springer because the topics on those shows “intimidate” me from an intellectual standpoint. I’m not up to the challenge of trying to understand the depth of such programming. I can’t count the number of times black and Hispanic men have given me a “you be crazy” look for showing no interest in some land whale that was holding their attention.

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      • on March 5, 2015 at 1:10 pm Greg Eliot

        youre just mad because your d!ck is too small to please a woman who isn’t the size and shape of a pubescent boy.

        Your mama never complained… ‘though she tried her best to wear it down.

        (((since we’re playin’ the dozens)))

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      • on March 5, 2015 at 10:43 pm Anonymous

        @ eofahapi

        Oh you found offense to my comment – yet all day these small penise do can’t get laid White men in here talk about Blacks and Black women making racist remarks and you find MY COMMENTS offensive?

        Typical. Overlook your own races disgusting remarks and act all butthurt when people basically remind you that your race is not as superior as you like to think.

        Most White women have FLAT NON EXISTENT ASSES, fake breasts and most white men have low testosterone and small penises.

        That’s just the truth seeetie!

        Why do you think white men are so intimidated by Black men? Because they can’t measure up. LITERALLY!

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      • on March 9, 2015 at 9:10 am ChuckSteak

        “Most White women have FLAT NON EXISTENT ASSES, fake breasts and most white men have low testosterone and small penises.”

        Call ’em “flat” or whatever you will, white women, on the whole, seem to get a lot more attention from the opposite sex than black women ever will. That’s not me being “mean”; that’s just the God’s honest truth. And I’m sure that explains your transparent bitterness towards them.

        White men have low testosterone and small penises? Relative to what? Even if blacks have larger penises and more testosterone (I’m being charitable by even giving you that one without qualification), whites are not “low” in a global context, by any means.

        “Why do you think white men are so intimidated by Black men? Because they can’t measure up. LITERALLY!”

        Well, there’s also the fact that blacks actually commit more violent crimes.

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      • on March 9, 2015 at 9:43 am eofahapi

        “Oh you found offense to my comment – yet all day these small penise do can’t get laid White men in here talk about Blacks and Black women making racist remarks and you find MY COMMENTS offensive?

        Most White women have FLAT NON EXISTENT ASSES, fake breasts and most white men have low testosterone and small penises.

        That’s just the truth seeetie!

        Why do you think white men are so intimidated by Black men? Because they can’t measure up. LITERALLY!”

        Ok. I tried to talk kind.

        You are the one who is “butthurt” my dear. You can not stand that any other women outside of your race can be attractive. You can not stand that men have their own individual preferences. You stoop so low as to insult the men of a whole race to feed your own ego.

        I do not like hate towards any race. We are each of us made, by nature, by God, whatever you personaly call it. I am not a white supremacist, the notion that I consider my race “superior” is idiotic. Do I think there are differences? Absolutely. But even awareness of those differences will never push me to tar all with the same brush. You expressed your opinion as a individual, not as a representative of your race, and you did your self a great disjustice with your opinion. You are the racist here, not me. You tarred all with the same brush. I never condoned racist comments made towards people of your race. I do not like hate, as I said. Your comment show smallness of your mind, shallowness Not everything in life amounts to size of a mans penis. For you to believe it does, tells me you are insecure and hateful.

        I said to you, I think you are a very beautiful woman, and I think many women in your race are your beautiful, Some men will like how you look, some men will not. That is reality. But if you can not accept that and go so low as to insult all women who are of a different race to you, it tells me more of you than it tells me of that particular race. When you insult our men, it tells me more of your own insecurity, than it tells me of our men.

        And I advise you, come to Europe. You will see beautiful natural women with no silicone breasts, and men who are really men, who will not care about your shallow conclusion of them having small penises. They will laugh in your face, my dear. I could go to Africa, and meet many beautiful women with beautiful faces, bodys and hearts, I am sure. I could meet many who I think are not beautiful. If I considered a few not beautiful, would that make me a racist?

        I am not insulting your race, I am insulting you and attempting to bring you back down to earth. Wake up, my love.

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  15. on March 4, 2015 at 1:39 pm newlyaloof

    IT’S THE PATRI-ARCH!

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    • on March 4, 2015 at 2:25 pm mendozatorres

      +1!

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  16. on March 4, 2015 at 1:49 pm Harland

    So, there are:

    1) swayback

    2) digit ratio

    3) hip ratio

    4) What else?

    Who’s going to be the first to construct a metric to derive a Female Attractiveness (Theoretical) scale? The better your F.A.T. score, the better and more feminine a woman should be. This can be a DIY or preselect the classical measurements from Audrey Hepburn, Venus de Milo, Linda Darnell, etc.

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    • on March 4, 2015 at 3:07 pm Ohiomega

      Audrey Hepburn? lol!

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    • on March 4, 2015 at 3:52 pm anonYmous

      33-24-36-61° only if she’s 5’3″ heh. Cosmo aint got nothing on that.

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      • on March 4, 2015 at 4:25 pm mendozatorres

        Starting to look like map coordinates. {}-marks the spot!

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  17. on March 4, 2015 at 1:51 pm Phillyastro

    Does anyone have any studies correlating male penis size to female swayback or butt-size between the races? I think it could explain a lot of differences.

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    • on March 4, 2015 at 4:37 pm NEE EE CEE

      No studies needed.

      Men with small muscular frames, low testosterone and small penises will naturally prefer women with little to no meat on their bones including but not limited to – flat asses and non existent hips. Because penises are not needed to please breasts, these men will often find big boobs less intimidating.

      Men with larger muscular frames and who are well endowed with highest testosterone levels will obviously be more attracted and fit to please curvier women with larger JUICIER buttocks and bodies.

      Women of varying races are built according to the male of their race. Thus flat asses no hips and very small natural breasts would be more found on European women due to the smaller muscular frames and less endowed (I.e SMALL PENISES) found in most European men.

      Women with curvier juicier more feminine looking bodies will be built according to their men who are more masculine in build and very well endowed (I.e BIGGER PENISES) on average.

      You’re welcome 😙

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      • on March 4, 2015 at 6:46 pm Phillyastro

        I think you have the chicken and the egg reversed. For survival purposes, sub-Saharan female would develop larger haunches than her European or Asian counterpart. Thus, the male would evolve to have larger genitalia to penetrate the female. That’s my theory, and I’m sticking to it!

        And yes, I know this isn’t the place to post about sub-Saharan cock without getting mocked. So, I’ll take the heat for SCIENCE!

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      • on March 5, 2015 at 1:13 pm David

        What do you mean by “juicier”? How can a butt be juicy, other than gross stuff coming out of the ass, or sweat? (Or vagina juice dripping into it I guess.) Need I get any grosser? A fat ass isn’t juicy. It’s plain unattractive to me. Useless meat hanging out the back.

        I’m a white guy who prefers women look very thin, like fashion models. But I am not tall so I prefer petite as well. Fashion models (top ones anyway) have FLAT butts.

        And no they don’t look like boys. The shape of leg muscles, how the hip sits relative to the body, etc. … they do not look like boys AT ALL. Maybe if it’s a very feminized boy the boy might look like a woman, but again normal male development is fundamentally different because I guess one carries a womb, the other doesn’t and has more explosive strength.

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      • on March 5, 2015 at 3:07 pm wtf

        This is pretty fucking speculative. I’m small-framed, have an average dick and like big tits, I guess I’m a medical marvel. Broscience at its worst.

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    • on March 4, 2015 at 9:22 pm WillBest

      I must be missing something because any woman that is fat enough to affect even a below average sized penis to penetrate and ejaculate is pushing land whale status.

      In order for biology to select for larger penis the women would need to effectively be sleeping with multiple male partners simultaneously thereby giving a greater advantage to the penis with which provides both the deepest penetration and best scooping action.

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      • on March 5, 2015 at 5:31 am Anonymous

        You mean, If black guys have big cocks, it’s because their women are fucking whores?

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      • on March 5, 2015 at 8:58 am WillBest

        “You mean, If black guys have big cocks, it’s because their women are fucking whores?”

        Pretty much (and STD transmission rates seem to confirm that). I was mainly dispelling the notion that smaller penises are biologically unfit in terms of ability. However it is entirely possible that women are more attracted to bigger dicks because they are a sign of better genes, or a means of obtaining more pleasure. And on a continent where people still walk around in loin cloths the size of ones junk is more easily appraised by women than where people wear more clothes.

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      • on March 5, 2015 at 11:11 am Anonymous

        So let me get this straight….black women have not even selected black males for large penises, in fact they are too stupid to select based on anything, they’ve merely banged guys indiscriminately and by coincidence the larger dicked males have been more successful at fertilisation?

        WOW, WHAT FUCKING SCUM, AND WHAT A BIZARRE THING FOR ANY BLACK PERSON LIKE NEECY TO BE PROUD OF!!

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      • on March 5, 2015 at 6:47 pm WillBest

        How is a woman supposed to select dick size exactly?

        I mean in today’s world of “sign here in triplicate or its rape” and “oh shit that was some tiny dick, I best grab me some plan B” they can select for whatever they want.

        But on an evolutionary time scale, rape wasn’t a thing. So you are either impressing the woman’s father/kin so he doesn’t kill you (think the father looks at a potential suitors cock?) or you claim her for your own.

        Which means that in order for big dicks to gain ground in an evolutionary sense either
        1) Large dicks and increased sex drive (or sperm quality) are linked thereby increasing the frequency of sex and thus number of children in a monogamous/polygamous setting or
        2) Larger dicks increase reproductive odds in a polyandry setting

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  18. on March 4, 2015 at 1:51 pm high test brah

    men with high test testosterone tend to prefer women with bigger breasts and asses. that’s because an exaggeration of these dimorphic qualities in women not only signify their fertility, but also their ability at birthing young without too many complications. it’s only natural that in an r-selected society as ours, would such preferences spill across the mainstream media and uphold as the ideal.

    which biological, they truly are.

    [CH: her body is a grotesque caricature of a feminine woman. she’s the kind of woman that i said black guys would go for.]

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    • on March 4, 2015 at 3:30 pm llllooooolllzzzzzlllolll

      Don’t forget Robert Crumb.

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      • on March 5, 2015 at 6:13 am Greg Eliot

        Or Russ Meyers. lzlzozlzozlzozlzozlzozlzozlzolzolzol

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    • on March 4, 2015 at 3:54 pm Ohiomega

      Oh, damn! Her body is hot, hot, hot, at least under the clothes. In reality, either the tits are fake or the tummy corseted.

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      • on March 4, 2015 at 3:59 pm Ohiomega

        Confirmed: fake tits.

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    • on March 4, 2015 at 4:12 pm Scray

      This chick looks like a hot woman who ate another hot woman. She’s just fat. It’s hard to tell because women deposit their fat differently. She looks like 20 pounds overweight tho.

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    • on March 5, 2015 at 1:16 pm David

      I care more about the ass (I like it slim) than about the breasts. The ass attracts me. It’s what my dick will go into. It’s the target.

      The breasts are for her mothering role after she has my children. They’re for the kids not for me. Hence I am not naturally stimulated by them.

      Good sized (not humongous) breasts look shapely and proportionate on the female form — whereas a flat chest is distracting to the overall look. So it’s an aesthetic reaction, but it’s not visceral like my reaction to a hot ass is. And hot for me is slim with great legs — and very slim is great.

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      • on March 5, 2015 at 1:19 pm David

        Funny story: I did try nursing on my wife’s breasts once, when the baby was asleep and she was engorged and needed to get some milk out and flowing. I couldn’t do it worth a damn. There’s an instinctive nursing action that babies have, that I obviously don’t have any more.

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  19. on March 4, 2015 at 2:11 pm Waffles

    Infatuated US teen found almost frozen to death on bank of Chinese river after travelling 7,000 miles to be rejected by girl he fell in love with over the internet

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2975990/Infatuated-American-teen-drowns-freezing-Chinese-river-flying-7-000-miles-meet-girl-fell-love-internet-getting-blind-drunk-told-wasn-t-interested.html?ito=social-facebook

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    • on March 4, 2015 at 4:41 pm Laguna Beach Fogey

      This drunk “American teen” was actually a chubby African dude with dreads.

      I’m surprised (disappointed, really) the Chinese police didn’t just kick the disgusting savage into the river.

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      • on March 8, 2015 at 11:10 pm SC

        I’m glad that the Chinese police have higher personal standards than you do.

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  20. on March 4, 2015 at 2:16 pm Greg Eliot

    I like sway back… I cannot deny.

    Hmmmmm… just don’t have the same ring to it. 😡

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  21. on March 4, 2015 at 2:23 pm Wolf N. Shepherd

    “feminists are butthurt loons”

    CH always ends strong.

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  22. on March 4, 2015 at 2:26 pm Ohiomega

    As an avid and longtime consumer of porn (read the name), I think it’s funny that porn is the only place left in our society where overt racial preferences are ubiquitous and tolerated. Why is that?: because you can’t fool a boner; it wants what it wants, and the races vary in the commonality and degree of secondary sexual traits present in their women. White women have way more instances of the “big titty gene”–the one that makes natural (I can tell 99.99% of the time) tits without having to draw from other, nearby fat reserves, because there are none. It’s like slender legs. . . flat belly. . . DAAAAAAYUUUUM! Them some huge-ass muthafuckin’ tittays (one of my favorite Tinder pick-up lines). Asian girls have this gene, too. Most of them don’t break the B-cup barrier, but there are some who are so stacked it’s unbelievable (Hitomi Tanaka, et al.). Back 2 da white wimmenz, their asses are all over the board, so the average one is of average juiciness. I’m a tit man, but I find it hard to masturbate to them–I gotta have an ass, and bigger is better, to a point. I’d be willing to bet most of the white dudes in here are of a certain generation. They think their preference for flat (or, as they would say, normal, healthy, etc.) asses comes from the Ten Commandments of Horniness handed down by Almighty Evolution, but more likely it’s from being imprinted by the porn of their adolescence. Black guys do seem to be all ass men, though, to the complete exclusion of the breasts. I think that’s a cultural response to their bitches, who are mostly bootylicious, some to the point of grotequery. This goes hand-in-hand with black dudes’ higher tolerance for fat. It’s almost as though if her ass is phat, it’s OK if the rest of her is FAAAAAAAAAT, and we know fat becomes more attractive or less repulsive as one slides down the socio-economic ladder. As a tits AND ass man, I think Hispanic women generally have the best balance of the two, but obviously these aren’t the 4-foot Mexicans who look like they just came to life and stepped off the side of an Aztec pyramid we’re talking about.

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    • on March 4, 2015 at 3:33 pm The Spirit Within

      Latin women come in all different shapes and sizes. They’re not a race, they’re a loosely connected confederation of different Iberian-speaking countries with sometimes radically different gene flow. Look at slim white Argentinians, bootyrific Afro-Brazilians, indigenous mountain hobbits in Mexico. Can’t generalize.

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    • on March 14, 2015 at 9:16 am Lion of the Judah-sphere

      Black women have big titties too

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  23. on March 4, 2015 at 4:13 pm Pete69

    I’m a white male and I am very concerned with the sexual preferences of black men (almost to the exclusion of my own). No im not homo

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    • on March 5, 2015 at 11:15 am aspergeryone

      For god’s sake, why?

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    • on March 5, 2015 at 1:06 pm Greg Eliot

      You’re worse than a homo… you’re a homo troll.

      Back under the bridge… you fairy.

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  24. on March 4, 2015 at 4:19 pm Sean Fielding

    Some people here don’t know what the fuck they are talking about.

    To a first order approximation, ONLY white women have large breasts:

    http://www.targetmap.com/viewer.aspx?reportId=5285

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    • on March 4, 2015 at 5:53 pm Anonymous

      Whats the deal with Russia…Lots of hookers and goldiggers with implants? As for the the rest of map, lets see the obesity/bmi index map. See if it correlates.

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    • on March 4, 2015 at 6:04 pm K

      yeah, but the only reason we have a big cup size in the US is because most women in our country are FAT. and why is the average size so big in asia? don’t get that.

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  25. on March 4, 2015 at 4:29 pm Baby Got Swayback | Reaction Times

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  26. on March 4, 2015 at 5:37 pm farmlegend

    My observations – women with the 61 degree lordosis have above average base line libidos AND a preference from getting boned from behind. I’ve not known an exception to it.

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    • on March 5, 2015 at 10:24 am Putin

      Interesting. I believe that.

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      • on March 5, 2015 at 10:53 am Putin

        My observation is that I am also very attracted to 61 degrees.

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  27. on March 4, 2015 at 6:19 pm Anonymous

    they’re all the same girl, just wearing progressively tighter black dresses. From 1950s housewife to 2015 instagram, butt-implant, fly-me-to-Dubai and gangbang me for cash hoes.

    The evolution of woman.

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  28. on March 4, 2015 at 6:48 pm cloudswrest

    Speaking of swayback/lordosis, here is a pic of the recently assassinated Russian opposition leader’s girlfriend. http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/02/28/2631A74100000578-0-image-m-3_1425164339894.jpg

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    • on March 4, 2015 at 9:31 pm WillBest

      Why am I disturbed by this photo so much?

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      • on March 5, 2015 at 12:08 am Mean Mr. Mustard

        She probably told them where to find him.

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  29. on March 4, 2015 at 7:31 pm Gentlemen Prefer a 45° S Line | Via Korea

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  30. on March 4, 2015 at 10:29 pm Bobb Dobbs

    A very recent meta-study of penis size (published in BJUI, British Journal of Urology) concluded that the existing studies on the correlation of race and penis size were insufficient to draw any conclusions. Past studies had reached conflicting conclusions, some saying European whites had bigger penises and some saying African blacks had bigger penises. And some found no racial correlation at all.

    When a signal is so hard to detect, you know it is not really there. There might be a skew one way or the other, but it is not much. There is presently no reason to assume that any race has a noticeably bigger dick on average than any other race. Individuals can vary. Porn stars are typically selected for the size of their dicks (and before Viaga, their ability to stay erect.)

    [CH: i’ve come across a few penis size studies. the results were a mixed bag. some said no noticeable diffs. some found results in line with rushton’s rule of three. i don’t know what the average diffs are, nor do i care enough to find out, but i can say there have been more black guys in the gym locker sporting giant dongs. my guess is that if the racial difference in average penis size is negligible, there might be more extreme right tail penis size representatives among blacks than among either whites or asians.]

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    • on March 5, 2015 at 11:39 pm Mean Mr. Mustard

      What about a study on the size of women’s vaginas according to race?

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    • on March 9, 2015 at 6:29 am SC

      I just straight up asked a girl who had a reputation for promiscuity if there were any differences in race for that matter. She said there is no difference in average size, but Blacks have the highest standard deviation and Asians have the smallest.

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    • on March 18, 2015 at 8:56 am Marissa

      Locker rooms = soft. You can’t judge size when they’re flaccid.

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  31. on March 5, 2015 at 3:20 am Daily Linkage – March 5, 2015 | The Dark Enlightenment

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  32. on March 5, 2015 at 4:26 am Anonymous

    The “mysoginist” in the phychtoday link

    DAMN!

    A12point rewrite of our Castellain’s ’16 commandments.

    Why I never! Oink

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  33. on March 5, 2015 at 10:08 am Putin

    “It’s theorized that women with a 45 degree curvature of the lower spine are best adapted for squatting on their haunches and foraging for food.”

    Imagination gone wild. It seems to be a pattern with evolutionists where they go into the Imagination Station and come out with this kind of stuff. This why we heard crazy stories about cold blooded fish type animals evolving into land roving warm blooded animals and then evolving into swimming whales. At some point math and fossil records have to come into play. I could go on and on but won’t

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  34. on March 5, 2015 at 10:28 am Just Saying

    The optimal swayback looks like the middle female silhouette:

    I zeroed in on that one as the one where the woman is on her knees with her pu**y in the air as she looks back over her shoulder at you waiting for you to mount her. Yeah – that’s pretty much the optimal one…

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  35. on March 5, 2015 at 11:21 am aspergeryone

    One physical attribute I’ve never seen discussed is what I call the “long butt”. This is a butt that ties into the legs gradually rather than coming in at a 90 degree angle. It may be tied in with this lordosis thing, I’m not sure.

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  36. on March 5, 2015 at 5:57 pm Lion of the Judah-sphere

    Some of you guys are crazy. Bigger booty is always better booty

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    • on March 6, 2015 at 12:50 am Mean Mr. Mustard

      With an ass that big, can she even reach far enough to wipe it clean?

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    • on March 6, 2015 at 1:19 am Greg Eliot

      Okay, okay… I admit it… Neecy was right… I’m intimidated.

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    • on March 6, 2015 at 1:20 am Greg Eliot

      How’d ya like to get lost in that Bermuda Triangle? :yikes:

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  37. on March 5, 2015 at 6:07 pm Lion of the Judah-sphere

    No swayback needed! The high mate value is immediately obvious.

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  38. on March 5, 2015 at 11:47 pm Mean Mr. Mustard

    Some of the most consistently flat/bad asses belong to Chinese women.
    This is based on quite a large sample size as Melbourne (Australia) has had thousand upon thousand of Chinese flooding in over the last 10 years.
    It is far harder to find a Chinese HB8-9 than almost any other nationality/race.

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  39. on March 6, 2015 at 2:20 am Baby Got Swayback | Truth and contradictions | ...

    […] There’s a new(ly identified) attractiveness standard by which women are relentlessly judged for sexual, romantic, and yes, marital worth: The swayback. Reader Experienced Father passes along the relevant study.  […]

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  40. on March 8, 2015 at 8:43 am Taylor

    I think that swayback is so ugly,deformed looking, I’m thankful my swayback is 0 degrees. My breeding dog of an adoptive mom has it. Women who have it I’ve noticed are only good as fucking/breeding machines. And the funny thing is they always look like they’re asking to get fucked in the ass with that swayback. And they always have those nasty tummies to accompany them. I wouldn’t trade my board-flat stomach for that nasty swayback.

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