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Reader Feedback: The State Of The Union

March 4, 2015 by CH

It’s always preenfeed to receive positive feedback from guests of Le Chateau. An anonymous reader regales:

Field report – the state of the union

I don’t post a lot because the tools you have all given me lead me to be a pretty busy guy. This one I had to write up because it was something different and something telling.

A few months ago I made a post for no strings hookup. One of responses was from a woman in another state. She was very flattering toward me for my pic but more for my post; it was gruff, short, direct, specific and used non-pc language to ward off men from responding. We exchanged a few emails where she explained she felt unfulfilled by the nightlife in her city. I said, “hey, in another life…take it easy” she said she might visit someday; I threw cold water on it, not looking to put any long term thoughts in her head.

…A few months later, I get an email that she is coming to my city and has purchased plane tickets. I told her she had better have her own place to stay and explained my time with her would be limited to 1 meetup. she wanted to press on…

This weekend she was here. I had the longest, most enjoyably depraved bout of sex in my life. Checked a lot of boxes. Not going to get into the nitty gritty but she was a goddamn maneater…and I tamed the tiger.

When I met up with her (in public), I spent about 30 minutes feeling her out to make sure she wasn’t boil-a-bunny crazy. What followed was a sad indictment of the current state of beta males. She complained about the men and the women in her city. The men were soft, overweight, sedentary betas. They couldn’t handle her sex drive, directness, or need for a strong man. She said she had stopped dating for x number of months prior to coming out to meet me because the guys just weren’t worth it. The women were all fat, entitled, bossy in a “born on third base and think they hit a home run” way, and of course, SJWs. If a table next to you is too loud, the shhhhh police show up. Basically, liberal feminists run amok. *Shudder*

She was attractive, fit, and petite, as far as looks go. Not long term material but good enough for a one night stand. Plus she was extremely direct and specific about what she liked sexually. It didn’t take much time to decide to head to a bed.

When it was all said and done, she had perma-smile. Multiple o’s. But heres the kicker: she basically worshipped me. I have never had this happen before. Very different. It was like I was Conan the destroyer and she was a girl in my harem. She moved over me catlike, she played with my chest hair, kissed and caressed every part of my body, basically acted like a cat when you give it catnip lol. I have had stuff similar to this happen before (laying on my chest, playing with chest hair, some girlish fawning, the ol’ pillow talk). This was unequivocally beyond that. I could have done anything to her and she would have done anything I said (trust me, I verified). She would have been happy to do this shit all day and night, apparently. It was strange, unfamiliar and extremely hot. It was the most manly I have ever felt; the confidence is dripping off of me currently.

All it cost me was $20.00. I took her to 2 well known food places but nowhere touristy. She flew to another state and all she got was marathon sex and a fast food. Didn’t give her a place to stay or act as chauffeur.
Heres what I did:

1. Shut the fuck up. Didn’t talk at all while driving or waiting for food. Answered her questions with brevity. Asked few questions but good ones (some from the list posted a few weeks ago on this site – the ones from the NYT).
2. Brought the wood. I think this more than anything is what made her believe my alpha state. Giving a chick mind blowing orgasms makes their hamster pretty much forget/justify anything they don’t like about you lol.
3. Body language in public. I let her caress/be lovey-dovey in bed after sex. But in public it was like she was a stranger. This of course made her want to constantly touch me/show other women she was with me. I would slightly shift or move away from her, enough to train her that she cant, aside from the occasional hand carass (her to me).
4. Wasn’t afraid to argue/disagree with her. She kept trying to get me to see things from her perspective. If it made sense to me, I would give her slight agreement. If it didn’t, I called bullshit.
5. Set up (false haha) time constraints. Made her freak out, kept trying to buy more time with me lol.
6. Was fun & playful, especially in bed. My roommate said all he heard all night was moaning then giggling, then moaning then giggling etc.

This post was not to brag, believe it or not. I felt it was my obligation to write this because CH is doing more for men than anyone else and this story provides anecdotal proof that following red pill truths and the 16 commandants of poon leads to real world success. Proof that there are unsatisfied women who will literally fly to another state for a taste of alpha. Thank you fuckers, I love you all.

You’re welcome.

One thing I would mention about these women who possess an outsized craving for absolute submission from themselves and absolute mastery from their lovers: Be cognizant that some women who readily embrace overheated sexual or romantic attachment early on can be major pains in the ass later, should you decide to invest more substantially in them. Watch for warning signs from her, like intemperate griping and complaining about all the men in her life who “didn’t measure up”. You’ll need a strong and swift pimp hand to tame these kinds of women. This caveat aside, it’s better for the health of a possible future relationship to fall deeply into passionate lovemaking sooner rather than later, and hotter rather than cooler.

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  1. on March 4, 2015 at 3:52 pm Reader Feedback: The State Of The Union | Manosphere.com

    […] Reader Feedback: The State Of The Union […]

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    • on March 5, 2015 at 7:19 am Anonymous

      I had a girlfriend like that once. She was bipolar. You don’t get something for nothing. Incredible in bed though.

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      • on March 5, 2015 at 7:38 am anon 2

        Exactly this. Plus 1. But the correspondent is fine. He’s obviously not looking for any LTR. This type of girl in LTR will eventually get violent and do stuff like throw your stuff out the window, throw a knife at you, etc.

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      • on March 5, 2015 at 8:25 am Captain Obvious

        ¿ {crazy in bed} if and only if {crazy in the head} ?

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  2. on March 4, 2015 at 4:09 pm Reservoir Tip

    Put simply, around men and women alike, be a fascist.

    Everyone, despite the verbal objections that are sure to come, loves a fascist.

    Reminds me of a story…

    I went on a date with a super feminist girl from my university last Summer. She was pretty much what you’d expect intellectually, but she was cute enough for the bang. At Steak n’ Shake, we began talking policy, and I started probing her (a sign of things to come) and picking her mind for why she was a feminist.

    Expectedly, I heard the usual, worn-out talking points about wage inequality and blah blah blah…

    Then, out of nowhere she begins talking about socialism, and how she thinks it’s the best thing since sliced bread, quite literally.

    Blood in the water.

    Me: “Ah. Ya know, I can’t say I’m incredibly anti-socialist either. What’s disturbing to me is how quickly it falls apart when immigrants begin taking advantage of the host country’s social net. It really seems to work best in a homogeneous nation. Don’t you agree?”

    Her: “Yeah, I wouldn’t disagree with that.”

    Me: “Nationalism is an important aspect of maintaining homogeneity in a nation, and thus preserving a functional socialist state. What do you think?”

    Her: “Yeah, that totally makes sense to me.

    Me: “So what if we took nationalism, and socialism, and we mixed them together… Sort of like a national socialism. What do you think of a system like that”

    Her: “Oh that’s something I could definitely get behind.”

    I took her to my apartment complex’s gym and boinked her against the wall-sized mirror, and I’ve never been with anyone nearly as depraved.

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    • on March 5, 2015 at 6:03 pm Scray

      At Steak n’ Shake, we began talking policy.

      Lol why tho.

      I think a lot of this is confusing correlation with causation. If you have solid game or if she’s attracted to you, you could have the most pacifist, commie ideals ever and it wouldn’t matter.

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      • on March 6, 2015 at 6:55 am Reservoir Tip

        Because substance is important.

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    • on March 5, 2015 at 6:41 pm Akagi

      >Me: “So what if we took nationalism, and socialism, and we mixed them
      >together… Sort of like a national socialism. What do you think of a system
      >like that”
      >
      >Her: “Oh that’s something I could definitely get behind.”
      >
      >I took her to my apartment complex’s gym and boinked her against the
      >wall-sized mirror, and I’ve never been with anyone nearly as depraved.

      Nazi hate fuck.

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      • on March 6, 2015 at 1:08 am Greg Eliot

        Hey, say what you want about it, dude… at least it’s an ethos.

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  3. on March 4, 2015 at 4:10 pm Reader Feedback: The State Of The Union | Neoreactive

    […] Reader Feedback: The State Of The Union […]

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    • on March 5, 2015 at 8:35 am Captain Obvious

      Joosney JooBC “Family” Network, “The Fosters”, 13-yo sodomite kiss:

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      • on March 5, 2015 at 8:38 am Captain Obvious

        That’s what Michael Eisner is showing your children on Joolevision while you’re away at work so that you can pay all those taxes to support the alien invasion.

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      • on March 5, 2015 at 10:33 am The Spirit Within

        Eisner left Disney over 10 years ago, and was responsible for its rejuvenated animation division.

        You’re a fucking lunatic.

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      • on March 5, 2015 at 1:51 pm Captain Obvious

        No, TJW, I’m just a lone voice on teh innertoobz pointing out how your Tribe is hell-bent on eradicating Western Civilization and the White Race. “Iger was born to a Jewish[2][4] family in Long Island, New York.[5]” @H!tlerWasRight.

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      • on March 5, 2015 at 2:23 pm Sean Fielding

        “During his first day as chairman of the Disney company — his first day, believe it or not — Eisner ordered the production of an R-rated film, about the kinky sexual misadventures of a typically neurotic Jewish family in the Los Angeles area. This was the first R-rated film ever produced by the Disney company — but certainly not the last….”

        solargeneral.org/wp-content/uploads/library/Disney-And-The-Jews.pdf

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      • on March 5, 2015 at 2:28 pm Sean Fielding

        http://www.solargeneral.org/wp-content/uploads/library/Disney-And-The-Jews.pdf

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      • on March 5, 2015 at 2:46 pm Captain Obvious

        Robert Allen “Bob” Iger (born February 10, 1951) is an American businessman and the current chairman and chief executive officer of The Walt Disney Company. He was named president of Disney in 2000, and later succeeded Michael Eisner as chief executive in 2005… Iger was born to a Jewish[2][4] family in Long Island, New York.[5]…

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      • on March 5, 2015 at 3:01 pm The Spirit Within

        You have just unapologetically linked to an essay by William Pierce.

        William Pierce. William fucking Pierce.

        The guy who wrote The Turner Diaries.

        Which was carried around in the back pocket of one Timothy J. McVeigh.

        And used as a field manual to blow up the Murrah federal building in Oklahoma. And kill 250+ Americans. Innocent Americans. Mostly innocent WHITE Americans.

        You’re a rat-faced son of a bitch.

        But by all means, keep hating. That, after all, is the way empires are built and maintained. Right? Isn’t that what history teaches us?

        lollzzzlolzlolzolzolzzlolz

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      • on March 5, 2015 at 4:00 pm Sean Fielding

        The essay has truth.

        TJW has butthurt.

        A great deal of butthurt for a ‘Catholic.’

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      • on March 5, 2015 at 6:01 pm Captain Obvious

        Robert Allen “Bob” Iger was born to a JOO-ISH family in Long Island, New York.

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      • on March 5, 2015 at 8:33 pm PA

        Which was carried around in the back pocket of one Timothy J. McVeigh

        So you’re gonna denounce the Beatles because Charles Manson was inspired by one of their songs?

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    • on March 5, 2015 at 9:13 pm PA

      Which was carried around in the back pocket of one Timothy J. McVeigh.

      From TM’s perspective, his enemy one year prior incinerated 74 Americans, including a large number of children. Something like 20 of those kids’ charred bodies were later found with single bullet wound each, presumably as mercy killing by the adults as fire and smoke became inescapable. Also around that time, an Asian-American sniper put a bullet through a good American woman, Vickie Weaver, who was mourning the death of her 14-year-old son, shot to death by the enemy (as TM saw things) the day prior.

      The way, presumably, TM saw things is in terms of enemy force vs popular insurgency. And as every insurgency in human history tended to see things (my late grandfather was a decorated veteran of Armia Krajowa ), those who work for the occupant are fair game.

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      • on March 5, 2015 at 9:37 pm PA

        https://goodbyeamericainaphoto.wordpress.com/2014/07/26/crosshairs-on-america/

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      • on March 6, 2015 at 1:07 am Greg Eliot

        In SchlomoWithin’s world, only certain people count.

        A great deal of butthurt for a ‘Catholic.’

        Nice to see others are noticing that too… and it’s about time.

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  4. on March 4, 2015 at 4:14 pm Captain Obvious

    > “2. Brought the wood.”

    I’ve heard from chicks that a shockingly high number of dudes now are addicted to Cialis. [Anyone heard of any longitudinal studies as to whether the incidence of impotence is increasing?] They’re telling me that that’s also a major driving force behind the divorcee MILF cougar culture – their desperation for actual real non-fake wood.

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    • on March 4, 2015 at 4:22 pm mendozatorres

      Bringing up Cialis, I’m always paying attention to the string of commercials where Cialis and Viagra are mentioned:

      fast food–fast food–beer–Cialis/Viagra–liquor–fast food

      Can’t help but think that abusing one leads to another. Not to mention just sitting around the house and eating fast food, boozing it up whilst watching TV.

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      • on March 4, 2015 at 4:33 pm Captain Obvious

        Yep. Shit for a diet. Shit for exercise. Sitting directly on your prostate for 8 to 12 hours per day, staring at Excel spreadsheets in cubicle-monkey hell. Drinking city water polluted by upstream women urinating birth control hormones. Pseudo-estrogens in plastics. Porn addiction. Etc etc etc…

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      • on March 5, 2015 at 6:52 am Greg Eliot

        I have trouble swallowing pills (except for the red one… lzozlzozlzolzol), so I don’t want to take a chance on Cialis or Viagra…

        … I’m afraid they might get caught in my throat and I’ll wind up with a stiff neck.

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    • on March 4, 2015 at 5:13 pm theasdgamer

      Never have used any enhancer nor needed to.

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      • on March 4, 2015 at 5:24 pm walawala

        with Cialis it’s like chicks wearing padded bras or fake eye-lashes. They wouldn’t know you took it…they just know how you can bang them hard for more then 2 minutes and keep going.

        I take it regularly and by being able to bang chicks for 10 minutes or more means they go crazy about sex.

        So all’s fair and when it comes to game, it’s just another tool…

        But you still have to game the girl to get her to fuck you. How you fuck aftyer that is a factor of whether she wants to fuck you again and again…

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      • on March 4, 2015 at 6:17 pm burke

        i have used it recreationally and i have friends that have gotten dependent on it, at least mentally. if you’re with a new girl who’s good looking, you shouldn’t ever need it unless you’re 80. but occasionally it’s nice to just put it out of your mind altogether and have a passive cement post sitting there

        one thing– if you have real erectile difficulty that’s not mental, remember your boner’s basically a heart barometer. get yourself in shape, lose weight, and any problems should go anyway

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      • on March 4, 2015 at 9:40 pm Philomathean

        10 min or more?

        lol the bar is very low with you.

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      • on March 4, 2015 at 11:37 pm Anonymous

        Mine is mental. I spent too many years as a beta and thus didn’t get laid, which meant watching pron and reading smut, as a result reality never measures up to what my depraved mind can conjure anyway. At the same time the current state of Western women has hit my testosterone level like a 2×4 to the back of the skull.

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      • on March 5, 2015 at 11:50 am Content

        Whoop-de-doo for you faqgot, come back to us when you lose your virginity.

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    • on March 4, 2015 at 6:17 pm Anonymous

      Wtf. How can britches tell fake from real?

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      • on March 4, 2015 at 6:18 pm burke

        they can’t, unless your face has the telltale hot red look to it that viagra can cause. but in terms of the actual wiener, no.

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      • on March 4, 2015 at 6:30 pm llllooooolllzzzzzlllolll

        Viagra and levitra leave you with a stuffy nose and flush face. Cialis not so much. Really the results vary for everyone. Its not “pop pill -> 4 hour erection”. Some dont even get rock hard. Viagra gives some guys sponge dick.

        Anyway the only reason to start working out and become a healthy real.man is to marry a 16 yr old virgin. These mid 20s whores will still fuck you with a limp dock, so who gives a fuck??? So go forth, prematurely ejaculate, and play some video games. Fuck this world and fuck mexicans and fuck muslims. These hoes aint worth it.

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      • on March 4, 2015 at 7:24 pm Captain Obvious

        Apparently the dudes are very upfront about it: “Give me a little warning if we’re gonna have sex, so that I can swallow a Cialis beforehand.” It totally grosses out the chicks. I guess you could think of it as “Assume the Sale” gone horribly awry.

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    • on March 4, 2015 at 8:50 pm Reco

      Actually the biggest cause of this is the last one. Porn and masturbation. That alone will totally fuck up your hardon and your sex life.

      Check out a website called your bran on porn. Shocking the effects it has on males.

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      • on March 5, 2015 at 2:50 pm Anonymous

        Bumper sticker: If you think porn is harmful, try feminism.

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    • on March 5, 2015 at 5:23 am Captain Obvious

      > “The men were soft, overweight, sedentary betas…. the guys just weren’t worth it.”

      There was a scene in “Better call Saul” the other night, where Jimmy McGill was helping a semi-senile old woman in writing her will, and he was being such a charming devil that she got the old lady gina tinglez, and she congratulated him on his “moxie”. I don’t know whether I’d call Jimmy an “Alpha”, but he’s a darned good talker. If he lifted some weights and got a better haircut, then he could be a first-rate PUA in no time flat.

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    • on March 5, 2015 at 6:21 am Culum Struan

      @walawala – don’t really need Cialis but thinking about experimenting.

      What exactly does it do to help a guy who has no trouble getting it up? As in – what’s the experience?

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      • on March 5, 2015 at 8:34 am walawala

        It keeps you hard longer and lets you fuck multiple times a night. There’s 2 dosages, the “weekend” one and the “daily” one. If you take it…you can fuck for 20 minutes at a time…these girls i’m banging fall in love quickly after a few times because no guy has ever lasted that long.

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      • on March 5, 2015 at 9:55 am burke

        maybe walawala is exaggerating for effect but just to clarify, cialis/viagra don’t do anything for premature ejaculation. they just make the initiation of bonerization easier and shorten refractory periods.

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      • on March 5, 2015 at 11:20 am Reco

        So let me get this straight cialis will not make you,last longer but will help you get more bones in one night?

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      • on March 5, 2015 at 11:29 am K

        @Reco
        “So let me get this straight cialis will not make you,last longer but will help you get more bones in one night?”

        basically all these drugs do is help you get the right amount of blood flow to maintain a boner because for whatever reason, you’re body isn’t able to do that on it’s own.

        if you aren’t already turned on by the girl you’re with, they won’t do anything for you. it’s not an instant boner kind of deal. they also won’t keep you from ejaculating if you’re having a great time. all these drugs do is help your body function properly if your body isn’t doing the work on it’s own.

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      • on March 5, 2015 at 3:57 pm cash

        reco,

        boner meds give 50year old men the dick they had when they were 16. you get hard when the wind blows, you cum, you get hard again. you can fuck all night.

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      • on March 5, 2015 at 4:10 pm Sean Fielding

        Technically, they may not do anything for PE, but practically they do. Refractory period becomes short to non-existent, so if round 1 only lasts 5 mins, it’s irrelevant because you’re basically straight into round 2 for way longer, then round 3 for longer still, etc ….

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      • on March 6, 2015 at 3:29 am Culum Struan

        Thanks guys..interesting. Don’t you need a prescription for this stuff? Or is it all dodgy online ordering?

        Think it may be worth trying with the latest FWB.

        Another newbie question: what happens if you take it and then DON’T have sex? Is it just permanent boner and you have to keep masturbating or something?

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      • on March 6, 2015 at 11:37 am walawala

        @Culum in Asia, you can buy it over the counter. They have two dosages, the 25Mg or “Weekend rocket” which gives you the diamond-cutter for three days or the 5Mg ones which come in a package with days of the week like birth control pills.

        I alternate. If I take one and don’t bang a chick, I can feel the blood flow. If you’re turned on you get a hard on.

        For me, I can bang a girl all night and into the morning. Sometimes I can’t get off and the girl is basically begging me to stop because i’m fucking her so hard……then she wants to go again.

        There’s no way for a girl to know and even if she did….who cares. Women don’t care about that stuff.

        Also I have taken it and if i’m tired or not so turned on, it does nothing.

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      • on March 6, 2015 at 7:41 pm Junior

        @walawala – what if any are the side effects? I’m a healthy chap with a healthy sex drive but this sounds pretty awesome, why not try it?

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      • on March 6, 2015 at 8:01 pm walawala

        @Junior Medically I don’t know the side effects. Personally, I get very dry eyes and if I’ve had a few drinks I get a bad headache in my eyes. But, the added psychological benefit is I feel powerful and positive after banging the shit out of a girl who is screaming her head off and a panting, sweating mess who then wants to cook for me and give me gifts.

        “Healthy guy” is relative. Cialis gives you a powerful hard on and you can keep banging a girl all night. As a younger guy I could do that…without Cialis it takes longer and if I’m tired or had a drink I can’t stay up or hard. With Cialis I can.

        Check the medical side effects and cautions. But if you’re healthy, take a lower dose—5 mg.

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  5. on March 4, 2015 at 5:19 pm farmlegend

    I have known women quite like the one described by the anonymous reader.

    Every one of them turned out to have some sort of personality disorder, ie., BPD, HPD, bipolar, or who knows what. Though my sample size is not large, we’re talking 100% with PD’s.

    Or perhaps it was just my luck.

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    • on March 4, 2015 at 5:52 pm Weenis

      and this is different from other women how?

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      • on March 5, 2015 at 3:13 pm farmlegend

        Only by degree, I suppose.

        Seriously, a woman with a bona fide personality disorder is fully capable of concealing it for a good while in a new relationship. Until that happens, who wouldn’t be charmed by a sweet, attractive nympho with olympic class skills?
        You’ll feel like you hit the lotto until the ugliness rears its head.

        Look up Rollo’s story about his four year relationship with a woman with BPD.

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    • on March 5, 2015 at 5:36 am King A

      Good observation. This woman is of a certain kind, an adventuress typical of her generation. She was born into a loose culture and bred by feminist empowerers. She has no reliable defenses, internal (discipline) or external (daddy’s shotgun). She inherited the pill-mind, seeing sex as sport, like a man. She almost definitely has some personality disorder, and with 80-90% of new men she first has sex the first time — the important time — when she is drunk.

      In all, a motivating story. But the question is, what about the failures?

      Where are the big-fish stories about the girls who successfully resisted? Are there any singular women worth pursuing who put up a strong defense, or is the PUA method only about “plenty of other fish in the sea” and avoiding oneitis® at all costs?

      If this method has any claim on even partially being a ♥SCIENCE♥, shouldn’t analysis of the failures be central, even more important to understanding the precise nature of the beast? Sure, you hear about the anecdotal fizzle-outs in the more honest confessions deep in the bowels of the commentary. But when are these deeply developed from experience into repeatable theory?

      I don’t mean some chode who hasn’t read game scripture and is simply misapplying the wisdom. I mean veterans who do everything right but still fail — and are honest enough to locate a potential weakness in the method rather than in circumstance or even themselves. Are there women, for instance, that couldn’t be gamed sober but fell into bed after a couple drinks? We all know about the good girl who can’t resist Alpha Seduction, but have any of you ever encountered a single one who managed to pull herself away from your charms on principle? Has the Anti-Slut-Defense™ ever prevailed?

      This is why the game shock jocks come off as spazzy infomercial salesmen who stumbled into just enough success to talk about it — rather than the methodical love doctors of their imagination. This is why the PUA community comes off as a locker room where bragging dudes exchange mildly exaggerated war stories — rather than a pragmatic meeting-of-the-minds.

      An honest inquiry eventually gets around to asking: What part of success and failure is owed to the art, and which to circumstance? What are the limits of game? Are there any?

      Matt

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      • on March 6, 2015 at 11:01 am Greg Eliot

        This is why the game shock jocks come off as spazzy infomercial salesmen who stumbled into just enough success to talk about it — rather than the methodical love doctors of their imagination. This is why the PUA community comes off as a locker room where bragging dudes exchange mildly exaggerated war stories — rather than a pragmatic meeting-of-the-minds.

        The usual response from our Lochinvars of the boudoir is that any modern-day Penelope… hell, even Mother Teresa herself… can be turned into a raving slut… IF you (like them, lozozlzozlzolz) know what you’re doing.

        And any failure is merely the result of your inherent betadom and/or spergitude.

        (((shakin’ it here)))

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    • on March 5, 2015 at 6:55 am Greg Eliot

      Granted, a good lay is nothing to scoff at… BUT…

      … life can be funny, things can turn on a dime…

      …and a man can’t take too many chances when the down side is so steep.

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  6. on March 4, 2015 at 5:19 pm white on, man

    Say, what happened to Great Books for Men? I know they deleted his blog. But I didn’t know if he has a back up or what not. I thought he was just a silly troll at first.

    Did he just drop out altogether?

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  7. on March 4, 2015 at 5:29 pm Weenis

    I have had chicks fly to see me from Florida, Texas, California, and Panama. Even had one chick drive from CA a few times. Had a chick fly me out to Boston for a crazy weekend. Most of these chicks were 10 to 15 years younger than me. This was even before I found the manosphere.

    Just tell them what to do, man.

    Women dream not of equals, but of Masters.

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    • on March 4, 2015 at 6:32 pm llllooooolllzzzzzlllolll

      No you havent. No they havent. And no they werent.

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      • on March 5, 2015 at 10:14 am Weenis

        haha ok man. Whatever you have to tell yourself.

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    • on March 5, 2015 at 10:52 am Frank Wunder

      Weenis,

      If you read your comment in comparison to the other comments you should see how absurd and puerile your comment is.

      It’s the unnecessary and derailing “I was so drunk I crapped my pants” story that no one really wants to hear.

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      • on March 5, 2015 at 3:09 pm Weenis

        I didn’t realize it was puerile and absurd, because it’s all true.

        I was a major blogger and I built a massive online harem and played them like a fiddle. It’s not that hard to believe, in my mind, knowing how women are. Had I really tried, there would have been more. I was fairly broke at that time (blogging will do that for you)

        I think my main mistake was forgetting that this is the internet, where trolls abound, and my happy story just sounds like trolling. So, I am presumed thus.

        No worries, feel free to assert that I am an absurd, puerile liar.

        I can assure you, much worse is true of me than that.

        But my original comment is true, and I am satisfied to know that.

        My apologies to all, for derailing the thread.

        as you were.

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  8. on March 4, 2015 at 6:07 pm Anonymous

    listen guys. it doesn’t matter if she comes

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    • on March 4, 2015 at 9:32 pm Olay Dave

      Extra icing on the cupcake. Nothing wrong with getting her off, but it doesn’t need to be your mission …..it does show a certain mastery though.

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      • on March 5, 2015 at 11:56 am Content

        What it shows is a slave mentality that her pleasure is more important than you having your nut like a man.
        If you can do it without even trying great, but this is like 2% of the pop (of women I mean, who cum easily) and I’m in my 40s having banged dozens so trust me on this.

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      • on March 7, 2015 at 5:53 pm The Spirit Within

        Re: 2% cum easily

        I used to think this too, but 7 of my last 8 have been very orgasmic. Either I’ve gotten better in bed or I’m just getting very fortunate with my selection of women.

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  9. on March 4, 2015 at 6:10 pm Harland

    I don’t think a woman like this needed to be gamed at all. When she’s buying a plane ticket to your town, all you need to do is brush your teeth, dress nice and have a place to take her. Using tactics like false time constraints is just overkill. She’s already decided what she wanted, otherwise she would never have been browsing the “post for no-strings pickup” web forum in the first place.

    And in fairness, a maneater like this always has problems finding the right kind of man for her. I’m as horny as anyone else, but after a certain point I want to do something else. A woman under my care will be rogered repeatedly and thoroughly…but on my schedule.

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    • on March 5, 2015 at 4:23 am theasdgamer

      Women always need to be gamed–just not always for seduction. Sometimes to manage drama and sometimes to send them packing.

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  10. on March 4, 2015 at 6:25 pm burke

    my thanks to the whole community for this text i got from a girl i refused to get into a relationship with. she’s engaged and now wants me to ‘train’ her to get the job done once she’s married (i know, stupid, all she needs is to stay thin and cook. but i am going along with it). hadn’t heard anything for a while but then

    “The student saw 50 shades of grey last night and wants the teacher to tie her up and fuck her into next week.”

    normally in my past life i’d have eventually been despised because of my beta instincts. but this one, i just tore it up with her and when she asked to be together i said “that’s not me” and let her go. better to be her alpha fantasy forever than a sad and pitiful remembrance of beta

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    • on March 5, 2015 at 7:07 pm blart

      nice work.

      don’t want to get too personal but was she all on board with the bondage stuff once you hooked up or was that just a tease to get you to bed?

      only asking because i’m curious how much girls are just into the fantasy of it versus how it plays out in real life.

      your feedback would be much appreciated.

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    • on March 5, 2015 at 8:10 pm blart

      thinking i read that wrong. you said you let her go. was that awhile back and the point is that she’s still texting you? or did you do the fifty shades shiz and then let her go? crazy she’d still be wanting to be together even though she’s engaged.

      either way, it’s a good story. alpha widow status for sure.

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  11. on March 4, 2015 at 6:40 pm Ohiomega

    *Putting on my Devil’s-advocate hat* So, what exactly happened here? 1. Guy “made a post for NSA sex.” (Where?) 2. Chick thought guy’s pics were hot and therefore responded. 3. Chick thought guy’s pics were hot and therefore flew to see him. 4. Chick thought guy’s pics were hot and knew he was up NSA sex, and therefore had NSA sex with him.

    I’m missing the part where game had anything to do with any of this.

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    • on March 4, 2015 at 7:32 pm Captain Obvious

      He could have lost the lay if he had opened his big fat mouth and talked himself back down into Beta mode. Or showered a bunch of Beta provider money on her. Or hadn’t assumed the sale. Sometimes discretion is the better part of PUAistry.

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      • on March 4, 2015 at 8:27 pm Ohiomega

        Any or all of that might be true. Who knows? She did buy a plane ticket and a hotel room just to see him, though, so it’s hard to imagine her backing out of the hookup.

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      • on March 5, 2015 at 4:24 am theasdgamer

        Lol, she could have found another hot d1ck within 20 min of landing.

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    • on March 5, 2015 at 1:52 pm Scray

      Ya. You will notice a lot of this in ‘the game.’ People confuse ‘fool’s mate’ with game constantly. Actual game is rare.

      Most naturals actually don’t have particularly good ‘game.’ Their game consists of figuring out which girls are instantly DTF and locking in. That is a part of the game, but it’s 101-level.

      The confusion sets in when a male 4 and a male 8 (based on looks) have that same ‘natural’ game level. The male 4 will just sleep with fatties and uggos, and the male 8 will mostly sleep with normal-cute chicks. The male 4 is known as ‘fucking everything that moves’ whereas the male 8 gets credit for having some sort of ‘game.’ Anyone who’s in the game knows better.

      In general to assess a man’s game level, you need to look at who he’s scoring with and use what I call the 2 point rule. Women view all men who are +2 SMV points as alpha, all men who are -1, +1 SMV as beta, and all men below that as omega. The betas who aren’t ‘invisible’ as ‘just friends’ are the ones who are 0-1 SMV points above them.

      So, female looks + 2 – male looks = game SMV add. A 7 dude who gets short-term sex with a 6 has +1 SMV from game. A 5 dude who can get short-term sex with a 6, however, has +3 SMV from game.

      Because game is rare, if you go out into the world, you will mostly observe these trends for appearance, i.e. usually dudes scoring short-term sex are +2 points above the chicks they’re getting it from.

      That’s why game is one of the only ways to get a girl you truly can appreciate for her beauty. If you’re a physical 8 banging a 6, do you really care? Probably not, which is why it’s short-term and why it’s easy for those ‘naturals’ to treat the girls like shit. Give those guys a girl above their looks level and watch them turn beta quick.

      Now it’s not perfect. For example, if you know the dude is super rich or something, that’s a competing variable.

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      • on March 5, 2015 at 2:02 pm K

        “Because game is rare, if you go out into the world, you will mostly observe these trends for appearance, i.e. usually dudes scoring short-term sex are +2 points above the chicks they’re getting it from.

        That’s why game is one of the only ways to get a girl you truly can appreciate for her beauty. If you’re a physical 8 banging a 6, do you really care? Probably not, which is why it’s short-term and why it’s easy for those ‘naturals’ to treat the girls like shit. Give those guys a girl above their looks level and watch them turn beta quick.”

        good points.

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  12. on March 4, 2015 at 6:46 pm Brannon

    All this obsession with notch counts and NSA sex is pretty cool. It reminds me a lot of the homosexual lifestyle.

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    • on March 4, 2015 at 8:56 pm Anonymous

      When you hooked up with gay guys, you mean?

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    • on March 4, 2015 at 9:34 pm Olay Dave

      ” It reminds me a lot of MY homosexual lifestyle.”

      There, FIFY! You’re welcome, precious!

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    • on March 5, 2015 at 5:17 am Deutsches Volk

      Of course. Gays are both men, so they do what men would do if they didn’t have to worry about what women want–or if men have game to make women do what *they* want. 😉

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    • on March 5, 2015 at 7:59 am Greg Eliot

      All this obsession with notch counts and NSA sex is pretty cool. It reminds me a lot of the homosexual lifestyle.

      Let’s be fair now…

      … to queers.

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      • on March 5, 2015 at 3:04 pm The Spirit Within

        Your reply “Let’s be fair now … to ____” was tired the first 300 times I read it. The next 300 times I considered it beaten to death. Now we’re nearing a thousand repetitions. Retire it, old man. Get some new material. Steal from Milton Berle joke books or something that all the kids these days are laughing at.

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      • on March 5, 2015 at 4:48 pm Greg Eliot

        I told you before, dweeb… when I want to hear from an asshole, I’ll break wind.

        Your time spent as an altar boy really left some scars.

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  13. on March 4, 2015 at 7:09 pm Erik

    This blog has changed my life .I really appreciate the wise words

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  14. on March 4, 2015 at 7:15 pm Lara

    He should end it on a good note and not have anything to do with her from here on. She’ll then remember him fondly.

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  15. on March 4, 2015 at 7:17 pm Ang Aamer

    I liked this post.

    I also like the follow on point. BANG first then see about a relationship. A wise man said to me once that 95% of the women he banged he rejected from LTR because of lousy sex.
    I was aghast (beta mental state) how could a guy just casually not be concerned with a woman’s feelings.
    With older eyes I see what he was getting at. If you bond in a relationship first you may “grade on a curve” for sub standard sex. It’s better to test drive the sex first THEN judge if she’s LTR material.
    This is why i believe that most women delay sex. They know they may be disappointing so they try to get you hooked emotionally first.

    Oh and I liked the plug for the 36 nyt questions.
    I have used this as well with an LTR… we banged so it’s not just for new flames… it works for people who have been together for awhile too.

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    • on March 5, 2015 at 3:38 am kai

      Spot on. Delayed sex is a very common tactic, for this exact reason. Game has not had a lot of effects on the way I deal with girls (I am an unredeamable beta 😦 ), but for this yes: I do not accept delay anymore. 3 dates with correct logistics is my max.
      Or maybe it’s not game, it’s just me getting older. Lousy sex (or no sex) after a lot of time and/or money investement is pure hell, and contrary to what women magazine will tell (do they ever get something right? I doubt it), sex improve very little with time/getting to know each other. In my experience, the best sex you will ever have is usually reached after 1-5 times, never more than 10.

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    • on March 5, 2015 at 12:11 pm Amy

      “This is why i believe that most women delay sex. They know they may be disappointing so they try to get you hooked emotionally first.”

      That’s not why we delay sex. But I agree with you that sexual compatibility is hugely important in an LTR.

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    • on March 5, 2015 at 5:58 pm Scray

      Women only delay sex with a guy they find attractive if they think they will be judged for not delaying sex. If a woman thought there would be no judgment for gangbanging 20 attractive dudes at once, she would do it. There it is, chief.

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      • on March 6, 2015 at 10:40 am Amy

        Not always. Women also delay sex with a guy they find attractive if they’re trying to feel out whether he’s an LTR possibility.

        I know some of you don’t believe it, but most girls have no interest in gangbangs. It’s easy to avoid judgment in today’s world, and if I wanted to gangbang 20 attractive dudes with anonymity and without judgment, I’m sure I could do it. It would probably be easy. But I don’t want to, so I don’t.

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  16. on March 4, 2015 at 7:43 pm Fowler

    http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/fashion/news/from-criminal-to-catwalk-convict-jeremy-meeks-wins-modelling-contract-for-a-fashion-career-after-prison-10084874.html

    Jeremy meeks- the photogenic convict/layabout wins a modeling contract for generating tingles with that facial bone structure and bright eyes.

    Meanwhile, hardworking betas grind and toil for weekly duty-sex, while their wives gush amongst themselves about the latest tingle-generator.

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    • on March 4, 2015 at 10:52 pm NEE EE CEE

      Looks crazy to me. Nice eyes though.

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    • on March 5, 2015 at 7:46 am anon 2

      Except that 80% of betas grind and toil to pay taxes to allow women to be “independent” and get ZERO sex, not weekly duty-sex.

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  17. on March 4, 2015 at 8:06 pm stained class

    habd, YaReally, walawala, tilikum, Sentient, all the heavy hitters.. a question.

    An ex i’ve been on and off with – ran into her at my gym this past thursday (she lives outta town)

    she said “text me later”

    monday, 4 days later, i texted her:

    me: hey doll in town for a week on course.
    tnight or thurs after 9 i should be available for trouble

    (5 hrs later) her: Hey! I’m busy tonight and
    Thursday I close. In the process of getting
    another job at a restaurant

    ..while i was waiting for her reply – i picked up a girl at a corner store – we made plans for that evening..

    3 hrs later I text back: thats fine babe found someone else 2 go with

    her : (a-ok sign) awesome! Good for you

    she texted me 45 secs later..

    I obviously haven’t replied back. she mentioned last time we chilled if I liked the ‘chase’.. either that or why don’t i chase..

    either way, I asked her to explain herself, she said she believes if a guy truly wants a girl he should chase after her..

    It obviously mindfucked me – I’m not sure how to proceed.

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    • on March 5, 2015 at 6:39 pm Benson

      ” …she said she believes if a guy truly wants a girl he should chase after her.”

      Bullshit. http://www.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/20kt3d/in_askmen_after_a_break_up_has_a_girl_ever_said/

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    • on March 5, 2015 at 7:57 pm walawala

      @stained glass. Yes…my crazy ex wondered why it was I didn’t “chase” her after she dumped me…then when I did completely did a number on me running off with another dude, push-pull—basically she gamed me.

      My insights—yah it “obviously mindfucked me”—that’s because you care.

      Look at what you did…you meet some other girl=good.

      You send a butt-hurt passive aggressive text “found someone else”…=bad

      She could smell the hurt from that note and so she tried to reframe it so your hamster started spinning….”good for you” is her butt-hurt hamster spinning.

      Girls want to know you care so their own egos can be satisfied they have “options”=beta orbiters.

      I’ve been in your position. It’s sexual limbo. Drop her, disappear…don’t answer her outreach.

      IF and only IF you feel you could game her the way you would a new girl…set up a text: “Drinks, xyz” if she pushes back. don’t reply.

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      • on March 5, 2015 at 8:32 pm stained class

        Thanks.

        Interesting as my mindset when I texted her “found someone else” wasn’t at all butthurt.. I wasn’t really thinking honesty – I was simply getting my shit together to head out that night, realized she said she was busy, and replied..

        Yeah, I’m not sure whether she was butthurt, like you say, or it was a genuine blow off..

        Time will tell.

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    • on March 6, 2015 at 12:09 am Scray

      she said “text me later”

      monday, 4 days later, i texted her:

      Uh. Don’t get too caught up in manosphere ideals. If you were legit busy for 4 days or whatever, that’s cool. But don’t feel the need to put off just to put off.

      me: hey doll in town for a week on course.
      tnight or thurs after 9 i should be available for trouble

      And it gets you into trouble, because you wait a long time but then are in a hurry to hang out that night. So she can’t hang out that night and then you were just dealt a shitty hand with her closingThursday.

      3 hrs later I text back: thats fine babe found someone else 2 go with

      Super obvious butthurt passive-aggressive.

      she mentioned last time we chilled if I liked the ‘chase’.. either that or why don’t i chase.

      It’s okay to let her know you like her.

      Idk what would have been wrong with txting her the next day, asking if she was free any day of the week, and, if you got a positive response, locking it in, or, if you got a negative response, letting it go.

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      • on March 6, 2015 at 12:40 am stained class

        @ Scray

        looks like it came off that way, though I wasn’t butthurt when I texted that.. doesn’t really matter I guess..

        You’re saying I should wait a few weeks and shoot a text? or wait a month, or until she re-engages..

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      • on March 6, 2015 at 1:55 am Scray

        Is there some sort of point behind freezing her out? If you want to hang out with her, text her and meet up with her. If she blows you off, then let it go. Right now, the situ is uncertain. Remove the uncertainty, then play it from there.

        Regarding you being butthurt or not when you texted her….maybe it’s just one of those interpretation things. When I read it, that’s how it came off to me. Sometimes that can happen, too.

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      • on March 6, 2015 at 10:10 am stained class

        @ Scray

        well, like I said she’s my ex.

        she reached out to me after ending it.. ever since then, she’s been slighty more cold(er) as the time went – by the time i arranged to for a hang the 3rd time around – she said “I dont know i have to think about things..”

        roughly 5 days after that i tell her to call me, she asks what about? i reply i just want to talk – call me when you can.. she never did.

        then a week later i run into her at the
        gym when she was in town for a couple days.. i was kinda alpha in that i ran her through a workout and pushed her.. buti was reactive and rattled when i saw her there.. i went in for the kiss whrn i walked her to her car..

        she was half responsive.. she then said “text me later” .

        not sure if she wants the orbiter and validation (mentioned if i like the chase) or because shes insecure..

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      • on March 6, 2015 at 11:46 am walawala

        @stained glass:

        You tell her to call you …she doesn’t.

        You move in for the kiss, she’s not into it.

        She’s “not sure about things”….

        Notice a pattern here? You’re chasing. Stop doing that.

        Stop all contact….otherwise you will be an orbiter. When you do re-engage, make it short and keep it light. this whole “I want to talk” when I read your words I freaked out…

        I wrote before my crazy ex gf started orbiting me….bought a ticket to my event…crashed my NY party, asked me to put champagne in the fridge for her and then came by to offer me a glass and dance with me.

        I sent her a text late late at night:

        “You’re stupid”…and then she bantered back and forth.

        She’s now popping in and out of my social circle. I invited her to dance to a particular song and said “I fucked you to this song…” she didn’t flinch…

        I couldn’t have done this 6 months ago because…I cared. Now I game her the way I would any new girl in my rotation…..no special effort but if she’s there I’ll neg, or tease…nothing serious.

        I think you should drop it…stop thinking about her…bang 10 other women…then you won’t care if she responds or not…and by then she will and you’ll have 2-3 other girls on rotation like I do now.

        One drops out, you have 2 or 3 more.

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      • on March 6, 2015 at 12:13 pm Hunter

        @walawala

        Bravo, man, bravo. Couldn’t have said it better myself as I’ve never been in a relationship.

        But my advise to all guys trying to get with their exes…

        Stop. If she’s not chasing you, it’s a lost cause. Do it when you already have abundance with other women.

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      • on March 6, 2015 at 12:56 pm Scray

        she reached out to me after ending it.. ever since then, she’s been slighty more cold(er) as the time went – by the time i arranged to for a hang the 3rd time around – she said “I dont know i have to think about things..”

        roughly 5 days after that i tell her to call me, she asks what about? i reply i just want to talk – call me when you can.. she never did.

        Lol this is IMPORTANT info.

        1) Apparently she ended it?
        2) She’s being wishy-washy
        3) And you are saying shit like ‘I just want to talk,’ etc.

        Now the situ IS clear.

        So ya, don’t chase her. Optimal move here is the fade away radio silence for X months and then after that only when or if she reaches out to you. Cut it loose.

        wal is right…focus on banging other, hotter chicks.

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      • on March 6, 2015 at 1:03 pm stained class

        @wala

        right.

        she made mention at the gym saying “stained, i think about texting/calling you, then i think.. (something about how i wont change back to the old me that first attracted her..)

        thats why i gave this some light..

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      • on March 6, 2015 at 1:21 pm stained class

        @Scray

        with the “I just want to talk” line..

        its was like this:

        me: call me

        her: im at work wont be a while ..etc

        her: about?

        me:  “i just want to chat, give me a call when you’re free”..

        she said she didnt call because it was late, and in the coming days because she was busy ..lol

        then she pulled out the line on how she thinks about calling/texting, but..

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      • on March 7, 2015 at 5:23 am walawala

        @Stained “stained, i think about texting/calling you, then i think.. (something about how i wont change back to the old me that first attracted her..)”

        This is her blaming/shaming you for her own guilt about leaving you/the break up.

        I don’t know the details: If you broke up with her, then she’d be hurt and chasing you. If you she broke up with you…she lost attraction somewhere…

        I’ve been in this exact situation. It’s no win. You’re trying to negotiate something that can’t be negotiated—Desire. Rollo Tomasi writes about this on Rationalmale.

        The thing is these girls ALWAYS come back…but it’s not the same because of the history.

        She needs to feel the loss and that you’ve changed….you’ve changed by moving on to someone else.

        This is a poison well…if you’re not over her and still spending time…you’re wasting time on her when you could be investing time in someone else.

        This affects your game and your self-confidence.

        Move on…ignore.

        Mine is hovering/orbiting me…I shoot a funny one or two word text every few weeks or a photo…she responds in 20 minutes or less no matter what time of night it is…The content is no different from any of the other girls i’m gaming. She’s not special.

        Focus your energy in a more positive direction. Your question is a good one, it demonstrates how logically guys think vs how emotionally girls act: indecisive, capricious, flighty…

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  18. on March 4, 2015 at 8:09 pm stained class

    Have a question in mod for the titans around here – habd, walawala, YaReally, tilikum, Scray, Sentient..

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    • on March 4, 2015 at 8:42 pm Walky Talky

      Same here.

      Opened like this online
      Me: You dont look like 21
      Her: Yes. Because i will turn 22 in a few days

      Whats a good response to that? Milder than ‘good for you’, harsher than ‘thats nice’

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      • on March 4, 2015 at 8:48 pm stained class

        – that’s pretty/cute

        – can you blow 22 candles

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      • on March 4, 2015 at 9:25 pm driveallnight

        “Cool. Not talking about dog years I hope”

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      • on March 4, 2015 at 9:38 pm Olay Dave

        “Hmmmm, four the hard way”………..turn away.

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      • on March 5, 2015 at 2:33 am walawala

        @Walky Talky

        You: You don’t look 21…should I be worried?

        Her: Yes because I turn 22 in a few days?

        You: Oh? Fishing for a birthday present? How clever you are

        Her: noooooo blah blah blah

        You: Well, if you promise to behave let’s find a way to celebrate. You are fully legal so a drink would be appropriate…

        Always be closing.

        So many of these interactions are just banter that lead no where. Unless you’re long-gaming a girl…figure out whether she wants to meet..>If she doesn’t move on.

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      • on March 5, 2015 at 4:26 am theasdgamer

        “First anniversary of your 21st birthday.”

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      • on March 5, 2015 at 5:23 am llllooooolllzzzzzlllolll

        She already has you. Just move on in a normal fashion and stay aloof.

        She doesnt mind looking older than she claims, and didnt find your joke amusing, knowing full well that she probably does in fact look her age.

        Hot girls always have game. Its natural to women as its natural to most young boys until reality weeds out the emotionally weak.

        Here you are asking for a retort after 2 lines of dialogue?? She already knocked you out of the park. You should have noved on in your own direction already.

        I suggest a non sequitur and keep it moving. Then ignore her for a bit. Your response should be whatever observation or desire pops into your head at the moment of reading. And then move on.

        Finally, my advice is to go outside and behave like a real man. King David didnt waste time thinking of a clever neg. His manliness and status as an exalted one embodied the neg. All who crossed his path felt the force of his wordless Neg.

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      • on March 5, 2015 at 5:25 am llllooooolllzzzzzlllolll

        Actually..fat birthday Cat ahould be your response.

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      • on March 5, 2015 at 8:37 am Hunter

        None of those responses lead it anywhere.

        “Jeez you’re getting old. Soon you’ll have to get hitched and call it a day. Don’t look at me though, not marriage material. You’d ruin me.”

        “Good for you. What do I get for a present ;)”

        “Stop lying, you’re about to turn 21. It’s okay though, I’ll get you your first ever cider.”

        “It’s okay, I’ll make you feel 19 again. The best is yet to come”

        Or try:

        “Perfect, meet me at Bar X and we’ll celebrate like you just turned 21”

        Just some thoughts, mostly for myself. I myself keep fucking up pitching the meet.

        Anyway, each and every one of your response don’t imply sex in anyway, now or in the future. Imply sex. Use sexual innuendo. Pitch the meet asap.

        Just re-preaching YaReally, kant, Scray, habd, Lumpy, walawala, and others.

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      • on March 5, 2015 at 1:28 pm Scray

        Her: Yes. Because I will turn 22 in a few days

        Two rules for txt/msg game: 1) Always be DHV’ing, 2) Always be moving toward IRL meetup. The rest is calibration. I don’t know what vibe your profile gives off, so here’s just some general examples….

        You: We should party/celebrate/etc.

        If you don’t mind giving value outcome-independent style, then I’d even slightly DQ:

        You: You should celebrate, and if you need ideas X Y Z are the best places for parties in this town.

        If you want to throw in some C&F:

        You: Wow I’ve never dated a senior citizen before —> you should celebrate/etc.
        You: Nice…you’re like a cougar now —> should celebrate/etc.

        I actually tend to back off the C&F in initial txts…establish some rapport first, then a CF blitz.

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  21. on March 4, 2015 at 9:50 pm Rum

    This State of the Union Post and its many well intentioned commentarians – leave me with a headache. But Clarity is good!!!!

    Be desirable.

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  22. on March 4, 2015 at 11:26 pm no

    This reminds me of a woman who visits me from a state away when she is in town. Long live the feminist era of the beta male. The sex has been great for me.

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  23. on March 5, 2015 at 5:39 am PA

    The Gamma-themed discussions at Alpha Game gave me a lot to think about VD’s hierarchy vis a vis Heartiste’s alpha-beta-ome.ga scale. Advocates of one scale sometimes criticize the other as overcomplicated or simplistic, respectively.

    But each has its place. Heartiste’s scale measures a man in terms of a single factor: his attractiveness to women, therefore it’s a linear “hot or not” to chicks) continuum. Vox’s scale measures a man in terms of his standing among men (of which female attraction is a byproduct), and that is a multiple-factor metric– dominance/submission, aggression/non-aggression, hierarchical/non-hierarchical. Therefore it’s two-dimensional at the alpha-sigma and gamma-om.ega ends of the continuum, and it differentiates alphas and betas as two kinds of high status men (and the rare sigmas).

    I’ve come to understand what a potent weapon Heartiste’s game teachings are, and how potentially lethal to an unwise practitioner. It’s really advanced shit, that can backfire on the user.

    For example, CH’s principle of Irrational Confidence, in gamma’s hands just amplifies his gammatude.

    VD’s scale teaches the fundamentals of “know thyself” and then improvement in status may follow. CH’s scale is best used by those who are ready for it. Gammas aren’t.

    This analysis is work in progress, admittedly.

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  24. on March 5, 2015 at 6:19 am Culum Struan

    Vignettes from life Sentient style

    Went to a conference for work-related reasons. Not TED but think along those lines..more low-key. No interest in doing anything overt or closing in that environment – too close to my work but great opportunity for practicing social stuff and flirting a bit with IOIs etc. Lots of cute girls..wide age range.

    Some random thoughts:

    -I have some really good stories based around a hobby of mine (I don’t usually tell these on dates or clubs btw – it involves revealing too much personal information than I am comfortable with on a first date with an online girl). Especially with practice – these are killer stories that tick a lot of boxes (risk to life, excitement etc). After a while, I used to join conversations and people were like “You’re the guy who does [X]..tell these people about it..”

    -And while that was fun, I’m starting to think of those stories almost as the equivalent of being good looking, or doing magic tricks for girls. It’s great for grabbing attention and building some initial attraction (and social proof in group settings), but you need to get out of it fairly quickly and onto building rapport and comfort fairly soon or you’ll end up in Performing-Monkey-Land.

    -Based on my stories, vibe, chat etc, I had clear IOIs from a bunch of girls – about 5 (I was at the same conference last year and only had IOIs from one girl. I was nowhere near as good at spotting IOIs, not as confident socially, etc). So some improvement. In fact the girl from last year (who didn’t attend this year – HB6.5, great tits) texted me a couple days ago to chat saying she was so disappointed to miss the conference this year and she would look me up when next in my town, and she added me on FB a few months ago – very chatty etc. Basically all I need to do is isolate her when she is next in my town and the game is pretty much up.

    -IOIs I’m pretty decent at spotting – usual laughing, being very engaged in conversation, DDB eyes, offering to exchange numbers..shaking hands, seeking out for conversation – basically I know it.

    -One particular instance, sitting next to a HB7 woman (briefly in a group convo with her previously but not introduced) at a session. Related to something the speaker said I whispered to her “So he’s saying wealth is a turn on? No shit” [I didn’t want to get all red pill talk on her about how technically it is social proof not wealth etc]. She turns round and tells me “I think power is a turn on”. BOOM – I locked EC and was like “That’s a very insightful thing to say” – the eye contact was electric. Then after the session she was having a smoke and I went up and she was really keen to talk..I had to cut it off after a bit because if I wasn’t going to escalate, it was going nowhere (and I wasn’t going to escalate).

    -Most interestingly, another HB7 (objectively) but very slim (almost getting to model-skinny), long legs, striking looks, about 30. Just something about her really appealed to me. Making a presentation about her performing arts project on Kickstarter with her partner although they are not together (actually quite interesting I’ll probably donate). Intelligent, but you can almost hear the incredible solipsism (even more than most women) screaming out of her. Unsurprisingly hard drinking (and I was surprised at an after-party when she turned down a joint). Total extrovert party girl – has to be the centre of attention of any group she’s in. Something about her – the most interesting woman there by miles – not the hottest, but the most engaging – I was drawn to her literally as soon as she walked in.

    -Earlier in the day she happened to be sitting alone and I went and opened by teasing her about staring blankly around her, then she laughed and introduced herself and then I built some attraction by telling her one of my stories and her working partner joined us and I continued and they were both really engaged and then I left the convo before I had to. Later on, I participated in some group workshop she conducted and was one of the 3-4 most active participants cracking jokes and creating a good atmosphere.

    -Later at night, everyone’s had a lot to drink..she’s at a table of 7-8 people absolutely holding court with a bunch of guys and girls (luckily the group also included another – early 20s – HB7 who had been giving me large IOIs all day so my social proof was covered).

    -I just went and sat in the empty chair beside her and was like “So this looks like an interesting conversation” and both her and the other HB7 instantly engage with me. The IOIs are really quite strong at this point – she immediately lit up when I came and kino’d me and was like “You will really like this conversation..I wish you’d come and sat with us earlier..” and stuff like that. Several times she said that. She then told the group that I have this interesting hobby and I held the entire group locked in and fascinated (about 7-8 people including people who went to get food and come back to the story) for about 15 min.

    -It was great fun. Just being that socially dominant. Lots of EC with the target HB7 (RAS fully locked into me) but I made sure to look at every one else too particularly the other HB7 giving me IOIs. It was such a rush – all those people hanging on my every word – their emotions mine to drive based on how I told my story. Even when I let someone else speak I *let* them speak – as soon as I said something everyone reacted to *me* and no one else.

    -I didn’t want to overdo it with the story telling so I stopped it and took the conversation elsewhere but the benefit still remained – I was totally in command of the group and asked them questions and let them talk the way I wanted to. The HB7 also talked a lot but she talked to me..she wasn’t used to not being the only centre of attention and she was (at one point) like “So you live in [her city] right?” to me and looked really disappointed when I said no. Some mild shit testing in expressing some disbelief at one of my stories but it almost felt like a formality – as Sentient would say my vibe and state were sky-high. Only incidental kino – more her on me than vice versa actually. The action was in the EC and vibe and the RAS bubble between us.

    -I alternated between talking to HB7 beside me and chats with the broader group. She told a couple of good stories too. At one point I finished a story to the whole group and just as I was ending, HB7 and I were locked in full laser-eyes with each other and the bubble was so strong that some beta orbiter from the edge of the group tried to follow on and start his own story based on mine, but HB7 and I literally did not hear him – like he said “There’s another story” about 3 times before she and I registered it and I looked at him and explicitly asked him to tell his story.

    -Then she was talking to a couple of beta orbiters who were giving her loads of validation and I was sitting back a little bit teasing her when I joined the conversation but otherwise letting her be and I was talking to other people in the group. At one point I made the rest of the group laugh in a separate conversation..she actually broke away from her orbiters and asked the group if they had laughed at what she said or what I had said. When they said it was based on what I said, she actually turned to me and said wonderingly “You’re as entertaining as I am..” [as if she was the only one who could keep a group engaged]

    -After that I just let the group wind down and I sent her away to go eat dinner etc because I knew I wasn’t going to escalate – otherwise I’d have tried to escalate in some dominant way (she added me on Facebook pretty quick the next day – just like all the other girls who gave me IOIs though).

    -Pretty much any of those 5 girls who gave me IOIs – I know if I had isolated them and built rapport, I could have escalated really hard..pity about the environment but great experience socially.

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    • on March 5, 2015 at 6:23 am Culum Struan

      PS – Also note that last year I was a speaker at the conference so much more visible and higher-status, yet I had far fewer IOIs than I did with much improved social and game skills this year.

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    • on March 5, 2015 at 8:03 am Anonymous

      That’s some solid amog stuff there Culum. Demonstrates to the game deniers how valuable understanding game and social dynamics and practicing it are to more than just picking up. To those guys – even if they are hating you – it registers, you are the man. Will have a ripple effect as your reputation spreads.

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      • on March 6, 2015 at 2:44 pm Sentient

        ^this wa sme BTW…

        “my vibe and state were sky-high.”

        this is definitely the key thing to me. If you are in state, it’s like you can’t make a wrong move, everything is fluid. It must be dopamine and endorphin release. Music definitely helps trigger it, or amplify it. I’ve been working on the NLP thing as well,where you think about a real positive state experience you had and squeeze your hand and it does kind of bring t back. I will be looking into this more. Have a post pending about being out of state and tired and a bad time, and then boom back in and I can now feel momentum (squeezes fist)…

        If there is a way to be in state 80% of the time I want to find it.

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    • on March 5, 2015 at 8:33 am Loyalist

      I read that long post only to find no bang at the end. Disappointing.

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    • on March 5, 2015 at 10:02 am Ronin

      Excellent stuff. Those Cat Fancy Magazine conventions are the best.

      Chicks who never get out, you start talking about Ragdolls & Torties,… next thing you know: SKIDOOSH! -break out the wellies, it’s up to the ankles in pussy-juice.

      Good times, man. Good times…

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    • on March 5, 2015 at 10:23 am Captain Obvious

      CS: “5 girls who… I could have escalated really hard..pity about the environment but great experience socially…’

      Dude. Be patient. You’ll see ’em again. You’re laying [no pun intended] the foundation for f*cking any and/or all of them in the future.

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      • on March 6, 2015 at 3:31 am Culum Struan

        Heh@”laying the foundation” – indeed.

        @Loyalist – the point is not the bang. I get enough of that (and if I had isolated any of the 5, my chances of a bang would have been v high) – the point was the learning about social dynamics and interactions and social dominance – that’s fun in itself.

        @Anon – thanks. Yes, I actually had a few people who remembered my talk from last year tell me they enjoyed it and that started the process off this year..

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      • on March 6, 2015 at 3:58 am Culum Struan

        Also Lol@Ronin. Not that far off in parts..

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  25. on March 5, 2015 at 7:37 am Deutsches Volk

    http://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/08/opinion/sunday/sheryl-sandberg-adam-grant-how-men-can-succeed-in-the-boardroom-and-the-bedroom.html

    Hashtag’s #leanintogether. I think you know what to do. 😉

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    • on March 5, 2015 at 7:57 am Greg Eliot

      Our esteemed authors…

      I’d LZLZOZLZOZLZOZZLOZLZOLZOLZOLZOLZOLZOLZOLZOL if it wasn’t for, well…

      … every.. fucking… time.

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    • on March 5, 2015 at 12:56 pm Holden Caulfield

      Facebook CCO (chief cock carousel operative) recommends continuing the carousel ride. . .

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  26. on March 5, 2015 at 8:44 am Holden Caulfield

    Facebook CCO recommends you keep the cock carousel going:

    http://news.yahoo.com/men–this-time-sheryl-sandberg-is-talking-to-you-024517279.html

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    • on March 6, 2015 at 12:48 am Greg Eliot

      It brings a tear of PETA compassion to me eye, to think of how many hamsters had to run their poor little hearts out, just to keep that heavy carousel turning.

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  27. on March 5, 2015 at 9:33 am anonymous

    Hey its the anonymous original poster – seeing CH comment on my post made my day lol.

    To answer a few questions I saw in here:

    False time constraints
    -exactly like ASDgamer said – the false time constraints are part of the seduction dance, make her cherish the time more. But more selfishly important, it was to make sure I kept her on MY time schedule. She did like other chicks in the past and kept trying to slightly alter my plans/time table. Plus i had shit to do later lol.

    Why game her, she already flew out
    -Captain obvious gets the bingo; i could have fucked it up and never made it to bed if she didnt like my vibe. She was extremely comfortable commenting on my body like i was a piece of meat. And as i had correctly guessed, she had a plan B dude waiting in the wings in case i flaked or turned out to be lame (which frankly, is smart of her). In her attempts to qualify for me as sexually attractive, she would occasionally drop info on Plan B dude’s texts, which was basically him desperately begging her to please fuck him lol.

    I agree with the Dark Lord and several like minded commenters – this was a one time thing. It will make it more memorable for both of us and she definitely could be a head case. luckily I set my frame in cement; she knows she met me for no strings sex, knows im not a sissy boy, and knows I didn’t promise her anything, etc. But thanks for the words of warning, advice from CH and the commenters here is worth its weight in gold.

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    • on March 5, 2015 at 2:39 pm Hackett To Bits

      @anonymous: you da man…
      It feels good to get a full dose of that manly confidence. I know, now that my eyes have been opened. See, for example, my comment about Crucifixion Girl from a few posts ago.

      I can’t overstate what CH and the wealth of commentary here provides to the novice. 6-7 months ago, I was a 44 yr old newly divorced dad, not despondent, but definitely wondering, what’s my next move? I discovered CH by accident (a link from Derb). At first, I didn’t like what I read…it was quite jarring to discover just how far down on the food chain I really was. But the more I read, the more I was convinced. Based on this and my field forays, I was able to accept the Red Pill.

      So over the months I’ve gone from middling beta to banging and discarding (for me, part of the process has been learning how to be an asshole when necessary) several women, including a chick half my age, to a current rotation of two fine pieces of ass and the option to say ‘No’ to others. Scoring the sex is a sign of a larger accomplishment for me: becoming a man who is in control of his life of relationships with women.

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  28. on March 5, 2015 at 10:06 am Ang Aamer

    Hey I just thought of this!!!

    Wouldn’t it be

    “State of the Poon-ion”

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  29. on March 5, 2015 at 10:42 am AWA4

    Advice on how Indian guys can game white girls.

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    • on March 6, 2015 at 12:49 am Greg Eliot

      Just what the world needs… more Indians. :duckface

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  30. on March 5, 2015 at 10:45 am cheesetrader

    Conservative women are hotter that profemsjws Danish version

    http://thoughtcatalog.com/harold-holger/2015/03/13-photos-that-explain-why-the-media-is-in-a-frenzy-over-denmarks-nikita-klaestrup/

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    • on March 5, 2015 at 2:15 pm Lara

      She doesn’t look very conservative. Instead of her political views, I’d ask her what she charges by the hour.

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      • on March 5, 2015 at 3:09 pm cheesetrader

        Admit it, you just want the dress

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      • on March 5, 2015 at 4:44 pm Ang Aamer

        she wishes she could look that GOOD in that dress.

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    • on March 6, 2015 at 12:53 am Greg Eliot

      Heh, heh… oh, those wacky Danes and their politics!

      She’ll be running on the Attention Whore party ticket.

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      • on March 6, 2015 at 6:00 am cheesetrader

        She would stimulate my economy….just sayin’

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      • on March 6, 2015 at 9:27 am Greg Eliot

        Interest rates are already rising.

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  31. on March 5, 2015 at 12:20 pm DNA

    Thanks to most everyone on this blog for following along and playing my little game. While a couple people every once in a blue moon speak out, most here are loyal players. However, recently someone got pissed at the whole circus and called me out on it. – DNA

    Angry human:

    I really dislike the phrase: ‘”Who knows what the future might hold? The possibilities are endless.” I think that it is just a bullshit phrase people like to tell to each other to falsely cheer one another up and avoid facing mental distress by ignoring the sad reality of their current existential situation.

    And well, actually, we do know. Perhaps not with complete exactitude, but we can get a pretty fucking accurate idea.

    The future certainly holds death, for everyone. And before death, there are a limited amount of mundane, insignificant and meaningless occurrences, events and situations that could happen and that a person could end up experiencing. Many of those depending on the social situation, genetic composition and personality traits, can already start to be discarded as they have almost zero chances of ever happening other than inside the individual’s imagination. Not to mention that none of it, not even the best case scenario of a combination of things happening, will have a significant impact whatsoever on anything other than distracting the meat puppet from the fact that it is decomposing towards nothingness, about to say bye bye forever and that their forced emergence from the void to just momentarily being to purposelessly swim around lost in a sea of cosmic indifference, was monumentally futile and absurd.

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    • on March 5, 2015 at 6:51 pm Rum

      DNA
      Oh, come on.
      In about 1790, John Wilkes wrote:
      “What can life ere supply
      but a few good fucks, and then you die”.
      And he stole that from some Greek, who had stolen it from some Etruscan poseuer who had gotten ahold of an ancient mis-quotation from a Neanderthal sage. Whose name I cannot remember.
      But the original wisdom-quote was…”There are no minor details. Everything you do matters utterly.”

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    • on March 6, 2015 at 12:56 am Greg Eliot

      Listen here, you nihilist fuck…

      … at least National Socialism is an ethos.

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  32. on March 5, 2015 at 12:43 pm cormorant

    Human sexual dynamics in a nutshell: http://i.imgur.com/1YAHZvc.jpg

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  33. on March 5, 2015 at 1:09 pm Concerned

    https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9151897 from a nerd who sympathizes with Adria Richards because he too knows what it’s like to walk in fear:

    “For many years, when I’d be walking downtown, if I saw a group of people that looked like they were from a typical rap video (not specifically any race, but more the group’s clothing and body language, although race does play a part of it), I’d turn down another corner. This is mostly due to what got fed to me by TV and other sources, and the knowledge that a nerdy white guy is probably the most hated vulnerable person in that area at that time. Now I know that this is totally irrational, and it wasn’t until I forced myself to not turn a different corner each time, that I started to get over it.

    Now on another level, I’m a very bashful person, so I have a hard time looking at people in the eyes when I talk to them. Therefore my eyes are pointed at a 30 – 60 degree angle downward towards the floor. And guess what is in that line of site if I happen to be talking to a woman at work? So I learned to just stare straight ahead, or start messing with my phone, whenever a female coworker passes me in the hall. Just to avoid giving the impression that I’m looking her up and down, due to my natural instinct to avoid eye contact by shifting my gaze downward towards the floor after seeing someone make eye contact with me (which, as mentioned, can be taken the wrong way, and land me in HR).”

    What a shame. This is a man who’s smart enough to contribute to society in some tech nerd capacity. He does exactly his duty (walk “fearlessly” toward urban youths, quake in fear of getting chub around a woman). Poor dude.

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  34. on March 5, 2015 at 1:09 pm Anonymous

    “U.S. millennials post ‘abysmal’ scores in tech skills test, lag behind foreign peers”

    Why bother, and invest 10-15 years of the prime of your life, when plutocracy will undercut you by importing “just as good” indopaks, chinx, semites and melanesians, further keeping your pay low in the name of racio-gender equality to wymin-negroes, while simultaneously and at the same time berating you incessantly for your misogynistic ray-sizm?!?

    Someone will need to manage them eemeegrants negroes and carousel ridin’ slores, might as well be ye.

    Middle management or bust (dad’s basement)!

    oink

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    • on March 9, 2015 at 12:01 pm anon 2

      your comments are always spot on and great. you are one of the best “anons” here.

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  35. on March 5, 2015 at 2:03 pm Putin

    Here are 5 classics although could not say they are my ultimate favorites.





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    • on March 5, 2015 at 3:06 pm The Spirit Within

      Those links weren’t necessary. It slows down the page.

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      • on March 6, 2015 at 1:01 am Greg Eliot

        Not to mention the poor taste in (ahem) music.

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      • on March 6, 2015 at 2:22 am Scray

        The only cool non-overplayed song here is Mean Street. And Mean Street is only fun for the first few seconds where EVH paradiddles harmonics on the guitar.

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  36. on March 5, 2015 at 2:37 pm Wolf N. Shepherd

    Tell it like it is CH.

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  37. on March 5, 2015 at 4:44 pm Rex Hymens

    Question for you guys. Every once in a while I like to go hog hunting…you know looking for a fattie. What do you guys say when theses beast come back with such attitude as if I am inconveniencing them by talking to them. The last time I checked no one was beating down the door to bang these fatties.

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    • on March 6, 2015 at 1:00 am Greg Eliot

      Often the body reflects the soul… they don’t respect or like themselves, hence they’ll berate you as a no-status, no-class thirsty beta for appearing to like them.

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    • on March 6, 2015 at 2:20 am Scray

      lol yeah they are. Guys line up to buy hot chicks dinner. Guy line up to get their rocks off on and in the….well, yeah. So lower SMV chicks are used to being approached, too, and for exactly the reasons you’re approaching them. Most men are fat and have no game…so their short-term sex options are limited to that exact field.

      However, this approach is part of the game: treating a high SMV girl like you’d treat a low SMV girl makes her believe that you’re higher SMV.

      An unused but apparently handy-in-this-unfortunate-situation corollary is that treating normal PD material like they’re higher SMV makes them think you might want them for more than a PD. Maybe dinner. And this possiblity means that they don’t pre-emptively reject you —> anti-game.

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      • on March 6, 2015 at 9:34 am Greg Eliot

        Treat a lady like a whore and a whore like a lady.
        – Anita Loos, authoress of Gentlemen Prefer Blondes

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  38. on March 5, 2015 at 6:45 pm Bray

    After reading the dog training post, I’ve been trying to figure out what sex dog you should have. Male or female, what proves greater alpha

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  39. on March 6, 2015 at 2:23 am Reader Feedback: The State Of The Union | Truth...

    […] It’s always preenfeed to receive positive feedback from guests of Le Chateau. An anonymous reader regales: Field report – the state of the union I don’t post a lot because the tools you have all given me lead me to be a pretty busy guy.  […]

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  40. on March 6, 2015 at 5:52 am WYD?

    Great feedback. Thanks!

    I think that if you’re a responsible student of CH’s teachings (either from CH or as a natural), it should be relatively easy for you to do this anyway because there are no unknowns about what needs to or is going to happen. She is traveling across the country to come and get laid – no two ways about it.

    As you don’t know her well, trying to be chatty in that short space of time would be awkward at best, pretentious at worst on the back of some hot sex. So keeping quiet for most of the time is natural, I suppose.

    The tough part would be maintaining frame throughout her arrival and departure, i.e., not getting smitten by her, not melting due to all the good sex and not being intimidated by her directness. And yes, being demanding, yourself, about what you want to do to her in bed. This, for me, is where much of the effort is needed.

    Again, great feedback! Keep it coming…

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