Back in October, CH wrote, based on social circle confessionals, that gay marriage is a farce.
I’ll let you in on a leetle secret…
Every gay marriage that was talked about was an open relationship.
Not a one of these gays who were married, or planned to get married, held any pretense of practicing monogamy. When the topic of promiscuous married gays came up, the only surprise was the blasé avowal of the fact. The gay men announced their intention to defile the tacit monogamous stricture of marriage with such nonchalance that it would astound them to learn anyone thought they might behave otherwise.
CH didn’t know at the time that the New York Beta Times had already implicitly agreed with the Heartistian premise that gay marriage is a farce.
Many successful gay marriages share an open secret.
A study to be released next month is offering a rare glimpse inside gay relationships and reveals that monogamy is not a central feature for many. Some gay men and lesbians argue that, as a result, they have stronger, longer-lasting and more honest relationships. And while that may sound counterintuitive, some experts say boundary-challenging gay relationships represent an evolution in marriage — one that might point the way for the survival of the institution.
New research at San Francisco State University reveals just how common open relationships are among gay men and lesbians in the Bay Area. The Gay Couples Study has followed 556 male couples for three years — about 50 percent of those surveyed have sex outside their relationships, with the knowledge and approval of their partners.
Gay marriage was never primarily about expanding the marital franchise to “historically oppressed groups” in the interest of faaiiiiiirness or haaaaaaaarm reduction, as RAWMUSCLGLUTES Andrew Sullivan perpetually insisted through his fog of roidpouting. Gay marriage is a leftoid equalist project to undermine and eventually to destroy the traditional and biologically heterocentric configuration of marriage. Gay marriage is nothing less than a front in the everlasting equalist war against white male European culture.
Gay marriage is one cultural schism put to use by the Lords of Lies toward the redefinition and de-stigmatization of marriage from an organic mate pair system which safeguards the primacy of paternity assurance to a free-for-all “liberation” that corrodes trust between heterosexual couples and renders hetero beta males wholly prostrate to an antagonistic marriage market stripped of any protections for their particular interests.
Mark my words, a massive elite push to legitimize and maybe even codify polyamory is next on the agenda.
That consent is key. “With straight people, it’s called affairs or cheating,” said Colleen Hoff, the study’s principal investigator, “but with gay people it does not have such negative connotations.”
The study also found open gay couples just as happy in their relationships as pairs in sexually exclusive unions, Dr. Hoff said. A different study, published in 1985, concluded that open gay relationships actually lasted longer.
Gays and lesbians… just like you and me. Except not at all like you and me. And that’s a truth the equalists dearly want to hide from view.
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But if gays are not monagomous, how can one be sure that the kid coming out of their partner’s bunghole is theirs? lozozlzlzozo?
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Hahahahahahahaha!
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Polyamory: good. Actually, take the “-amory” out, and it’s better. Fuck love!
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Amen! Pair bonding is disgusting.
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Every homo I’ve talked to its about money. Benefits, insurance, inheritance, all money.
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Clearly they are crypto-Zionists.
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They may not all be crypto-Zionists… but they sure are useful idiots to the cause.
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Sent traffic. Enjoy!
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I’m with whoever seeks to end the institution of marriage. It’s technologically obsolete at this point. With the advent of birth control, paternity tests and the possibility of automatically deducting child support payments from paychecks, there is no reason for marriage. Would be patents should just make business contracts amongst themselves that specify their own unique expectations about fidelity, childcare, financial support and asset accumulation. Gay people can make their own co habitation contracts as well.
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I think it was the homosexual Justin Raimondo over at Antiwar who wrote that back in the 1980s it would have been ludicrous to suggest, among homosexuals, that they should “marry”. It was not something they were looking for, and they knew what marriage was, something for families and having children and that sort of thing.
Then things changed because of a political push, and any homosexual who “strayed from the pen” was attacked. It was not about “gay marriage” as such but just a cause for everyone to occupy themselves with, a flag to hold up.
It works only when you have a rights-based instead of goal-based morality. Same as polygamous marriage. “If everyone involved consents, what’s the problem?” Never mind how it is at odds with basic human psychology. Yeah, get “married” that way in an early age, swept away by the marches and slogans, and regret it for decades in old age, knowing you should have gotten your act together and sought help instead.
The study is interesting because 50 percent is an enormous number. If half have sex outside of the “marriage”, consider all the other sand in the gears that must accumulate. We already know that domestic violence is far more common among homosexual couples.
boundary-challenging gay relationships represent an evolution in marriage — one that might point the way for the survival of the institution.
“Drinking poison represents an evolution in health – one that might point the way for the survival of the concept.”
Because if something is degraded, don’t fix it – redefine it! While you’re at it, redefine cancer as healthy, and suddenly the number of healthy people is soaring.
Or if you have a lot of debt and little money, simply print more money. Then you’re rich again.
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It is known:
http://advindicate.com/articles/3022
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A classic, large-scale study by Bell and Weinberg conducted during the 1970s and published by the Kinsey Institute found that forty-three percent (43%) of white male homosexuals had had sex with 500 or more partners, and twenty-eight percent (28%) had had sex with 1,000 or more partners. Seventy-nine percent (79%) said that more than half of their sexual partners had been strangers.[i] In 1985, Pollack found that gay men averaged “several dozen partners a year” and “some hundreds in a lifetime” with “tremendous promiscuity.”[ii] In their 1997 study of the sexual profiles of 2,583 older homosexuals published in the Journal of Sex Research, Paul Van de Ven, et al., found that “the modal range for number of sexual partners was 101-500.” In addition, 10.2 percent to 15.7 percent had between 501 and 1,000 partners. A further 10.2 percent to 15.7 percent reported having had more than one thousand lifetime sexual partners.[iii] – See more at: http://advindicate.com/articles/3022#sthash.U5ZdbMBR.dpuf
500 sexual partners? 1,000? And 79 percent of their partners were unknown to them. Consider what all this does to the psyche.
While men are able to handle more partners than women, there is a point where men also will start to feel dirty, “used”, feel that something is wrong, feel as if their body doesn’t belong to them any more. (One thing leftists will not admit, but that is nevertheless true, is that your body, its appearance and use, shapes your psyche. It is, you could say, part of your mind.)
They will start to feel like empty vessels, exposed to the whole world, who can only deal with what they have done by doing it over and over again so as to prove that they can handle it. No wonder homosexuals have a far higher rate of alcoholism, drug use, depression and suicide than the normals.
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Gay marriage was never primarily about expanding the marital franchise to “historically oppressed groups” in the interest of faaiiiiiirness…–CH
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Right,
It is more about expanding the LEFTIST franchise to include OPEN homosexuals by selling sodomy to the public under the auspices of “see? all they want is to be just like you; married and raising children in the suburbs…”
They even refined the term “gay marriage” into “marriage EQUALITY” because they know the average person lacks the intellect to oppose any term containing the word “equality.”
I suspect the banks and lawyers are in full support of inflating the definition of marriage as it allows for more contracts to exploit in more creative ways.
The end game is to reduce the value of a white mans eye contact and hand shake to zero.
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It is mostly to discredit Christianity, which is defanged by having to recognize gay marriage as equal to natural marriage.
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Gay marriage was rushed through courts in both California/US and the UK at approximately the same time putting huge pressure on a tiny number of judges to make it law. Anyone objecting was labeled an ignorant, stupid Christian bigot. It was clearly orchestrated in my opinion by a well-funded gay marriage lobby group with the assistance of an academic, leftist elite. Gays are no more free now than they were before, no one was preventing them from congregating and if we ever remove gay marriage, that doesn’t mean they will really have any of the same rights we all enjoy stripped from them. I remember seeing some of the pro gay marriage groups and there were hardly any gays in these groups. They have their own lifestyle and sub-culture people have known about for many years. The one big success of legal gay marriage was to say that anyone with a traditional leaning bend, be they religious or otherwise, is an ignorant, stupid, hateful bigot.
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While we’re on the subject of LIES perpetrated by the liberal media, here’s some real talk:
http://28sherman.blogspot.com/2015/03/why-are-blacks-homeschooling.html
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The married gays I’m familiar with aren’t monogamous; it’s a source of drama and manipulation, but not separation.
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I have a friend who is a strong conservative gay. Yes, they do exist. He spoke of this when we had lunch last. It’s not about monogamy at all. It’s not about love. It’s all about sex. The gays won’t admit to that he told me. He also said that him and his partner of 10 years, each have their own prefernce (asian guys, blacks, skinny, etc) that the other one isn’t into to so they give each other “hall passes”. If straight people had those stipulations, imagine what life would be like.
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Life would be like inner city America.
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truth.
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Then there’d be no marriage at all. Marriage is not about a free-for-all fuck fest between “hall passing” adults you idiot. It’s a union between one man and one woman consecrated before the All Mighty Himself.
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‘It’s not about love. It’s all about sex.’
Interesting. Makes you wonder how this is different from guys and gals who hookup with each other just to get their notch count up.
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That’s not the point mein capitan.
The point is that the erosion of marriage as an institution actually weakens the grip of those who hate it.
For without marriage, how will feminists keep their tax base alive, and in the slave stall, working away on the debt they keep raising?
How will they fend off the real roving whorde of thirst crazed rapists that represent so many armies of the past?
When men truly are indifferent, and walk away…feminists will long for the day that men would actually rape. Because that would also be the day that they cared enough to die for something, or someone. Those somethings and someone’s being their families, and the estates they built to keep them healthy, fed, happy, and safe.
When men become just as self-centered, and shallow as most women, and their feminist handlers, the elite will change their tune real quick.
Unlike CH, I don’t think polyamory is it. Polygamy maybe, with men still cheating on the side. I think contract marriage, with tax incentives for men to allow women to get preggo is more likely. With five year term limits, and the monstrosity which is women’s court (family court) reduced to something more sane. As in men actually have rights that can be easily enforced, and child support that can be realistically reduced after a job loss.
It will be interesting to see the effect of Vasagel on society. When men tell bishes “My body, my choice!”
Go get knocked up some sucker who is dumb enough to actually want you for something greater then a cum dumpster.
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That anti-manosphere meme is strongly exaggerated. I bet 99 percent of CH visitors who are single are not against having a girlfriend when they find a suitable mate. To find out if you’ll be in a relationship, you date, and part of dating is to have sex. You don’t buy a car without a test drive. Sex is half the relationship after all, plus it’s fun and we need sex.
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earl: “‘It’s not about love. It’s all about sex.’”
Buggery, actually.
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No different. Both are forms of self-annihilating paraphilia.
Satyrism in men is considered a harmless pastime, and good for him! In women, nymphomania is a death sentence, first to her femininity, then to her purpose in life (motherhood), and then, if she goes long enough, to her body. Her loins are a sewage sink-trap.
On the other hand, male notch chasers underestimate the desensitizing effect of promiscuous intimacy simply because that effect is small relative to the female. But it is real, as any man born into and partaking of the sexual revolution should know. It becomes difficult to bond or even relate to other human beings, since the male slut is addicted to variety (see the movie Shame for a harrowing if somewhat exaggerated portrayal). There’s a reason why sociopathy is admired if not worshiped around here.
But here we are sounding out idols with a hammer as with a tuning fork. Expect the volunteer temple guards to arrive and attempt to scoff us off the premises.
Matt
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It becomes difficult to bond or even relate to other human beings, since the male slut is addicted to variety
Men good at getting sex are not “sluts”. As evidenced by the fact that no one uses the word “slut” for men. When the attempt is made to transfer it to men, it doesn’t catch on.
And again, how many are the men who fit that anti-manosphere meme that we hear from feminists and puritans/tradcons? That “you base your identity on how many women you can have sex with”, and “you chase from one woman to the next”. It’s no doubt very few visitors to manosphere blogs who do so. And those who do, are no doubt men who can handle it, so I don’t worry about them.
It is possible for a man to sleep with too many women, so that it affects him psychologically. (As CH has also said – but his writings are often misrepresented.) But for practically every man, that limit must be high. Sleeping with thirty, fifty, seventy women in a lifetime does not cause a man of sound mind to break down. As long as they are women he enjoys spending time with.
One of the best, though short-lived manosphere blogs I have read was written by muscleman, who at that time in his twenties had slept with around fifty women. His posts were experienced, analytical and good, showing him to be of a far more sound mind than many a man who rarely if ever had experienced pillowing.
On the other hand, being in a relationship with just one or two BPD women can affect you for years. Those here who have experience of that can easily answer this question: would two years of casually dating and sleeping with e.g. twenty nice, warm, happy girls have been worse for them than being in a two-year relationship with one BPD woman? Just putting things in perspective.
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Men you pursue notches to validate their sense of self are already needy and broken men, and could as easily be chasing validation with other things like career, money etc. And they often are.
Don’t confuse this kind of neediness with guys who bed women becUse they really just like women. The way they act, smell, feel and taste. It’s such a pleasure to be with so many of them. I think the career pua is far more the latter type than the former. For one you can’t get good enough at game if you have so much neediness and validation seeking in you to be able to realize much of a harvest.
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Arbiter:
It’s not only BPD women who can harm a man. An ice witch can do serious damage as well.
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https://heartiste.wordpress.com/2012/06/07/the-curse-of-the-player/
https://heartiste.wordpress.com/2010/11/02/the-eternal-shallowness-of-men-with-options/
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He has a point in that a man does become desensitized to sex over time especially with things like porn, hookers and what have you that give a man more stimulation and variety than would otherwise be possible.
I’m at a point where I prefer porn to sex and have been for the past 10 years. What began as a substitute by necessity became a preference.
Also, cheating means nothing to me since it literally means…nothing.
Did not hurt my ability to bond however, just means sex with the girlfriend (who is great btw) is a bit of a chore sometimes.
With women the damage is actually to their heart and soul and ability to love not to mention totally tanking their market value. When a woman cheats, she means it.
For men, there is no effect on market value or ability to love that I have observed.
Just because a man cheats does not mean he does not love his wife.
He simply does not consider it cheating because sex by itself means nothing to a man.
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Who said they were? The term “male slut” is a deliberately paradoxical construction because “no one uses the word … for men.” It’s meant to invoke something different from “good at getting sex,” namely, the compulsiveness and addiction of chasing after fleeting pleasures for their own sake, like alcoholism or a heroin high.
Addiction per se is destructive, no matter what the object. It just happens to manifest itself more clearly in women, which is why they get their very own word when it comes to indiscriminate sexual adventurism.
Then you go on to agree anyway. “It is possible for a man to sleep with too many women, so that it affects him psychologically.” Which demonstrates you deliberately split hairs to create enmity for no reason.
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I’m a pretty conservative gay, mostly because I don’t vote on meaningless social wedge issues.
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Thank you. You’re welcome in the Big Tent as long as you don’t force the issue and turn your private identity into the preeminent Topic of Our Time. We free men are anti-identity, or at least identity-neutral, when it comes to the messy sausage-making (don’t get hard) of republican compromise. Diabolein, the root of diabolical, means “to divide, to scatter.” It’s the enemy who divvies people up into victim constituencies and sets them against each other for purposes of gaining and maintaining power.
If you’re sticking your dick in another man’s shit chute, I’m going to tell you it’s evil and self-destructive and killing you, but the one thing it’s not is political. Unless you insist on making it political. In which case I will have to oppose you.
Matt
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Homosexuality: Private vice, not public virtue.
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Gays are just a nail to cultural maxists and their sadistic hammer. They don’t like gay people or appreciate their whimsy and charm, agreeableness. They just view gays as another victim group to pummel society into oblivion.
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My friend thinks that the gay community does a disservice by isolating itself and behaving the way that it does. He thinks even within the gay community there are too many splinters and people with agendas that don’t speak on his behalf. It’s interesting to hear his perspective because it’s not what I ever expect to hear.
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Sodomy is the inversion of one of the most sacred acts any man or woman could perform. It turns something beautiful and essential to life inside out. It is most certainly evil.
It is a black mass inside the holy temple of the body. It is performed by sad and sick people who are searching for their salvation inside someone else’s asshole.
Even worse, though, is defining deviancy down, where we force these poor lonely souls to reconcile themselves to their dysfunction rather than having the courage to call a physically dangerous, socially putrefying, self-destructive practice what it is: gangrene of the soul.
And now, in this last stage of decadence, we insist confused young men identify themselves primarily by their morbid acts, make them public, and cry endlessly until nothing less than the entire world learns to call evil good.
All of that said, poilticizing the issue is folly because it reduces an existential argument to the enemy’s terms (like “gay” marriage), which is conceding before we even make our case. I welcome sodomites to the cause just like alcoholics, PUAs, or Jews — so long as they keep focused on the goal and not their pet obsessions and grievances. Otherwise they the get full-bore blasting reserved for the traitor.
Matt
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I find it funny that so many are watching these reality TV shows (and by many, I mean many women) about Mormon/polygamy marriages.
Big Love.
My four wives. Or three, or whatever.
The fact is, the liberal hive mind so intent on destroying traditional values and it’s inherent Judeo-Christian foundation in this cuntry are so not realizing what they have wished for.
When the traditional breaks down, and beta males become a horde of sex-starved, over taxed, asininely angry mob of disgruntled mass….the left is going to shit bricks.
Because those were the very people they sent to war. The very suckers they hooked into marrying their brand of used sluts. The stooge, slaving away to the grave, to buy his mastress all the shit she wanted, and pay her bastard children’s way through college.
The broken back which our whole society is built on! And who gets blown up defeating our enemies.
When those “boots” get to stepping off the reservation, it will be amazing to see all those arctic cold fish trying to back pedal their proverbial bikes back into their much aligned “lovely concentration camp” existence.
Fuck them all. And don’t call back.
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Once the rock is lifted, all the creepy-crawlies come out to play. It’s their hey-day. Watch them destroy themselves. Bring popcorn.
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Sorry, Matt, you’re not really a “free man” if you’re stuck in an intellectual harness that leads you to describe private actions of consenting adults that have no impact on anyone other than the participants as “evil”.
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Ease off the sadism. You sound like a cultural marxist gleefully watching destruction. They will not destroy themselves without destroying everyone else. Your schadenfreude is a sin.
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I’m not sure to label homosexuality as evil but I do know that it is a straight up filthy lifestyle in just pure objective terms. It’s the sexual equivalent to crack cocaine in terms of inevitability of making you sick.
Just look at the on the surface facts. Gays fuck a lot more people than straight guys. This is simply because they can. Combine the average gay man’s massive partner count with the type of sex (anal) most conducive to contracting all sorts of STDs not mention the Big Kahuna that is HIV and it’s beyond stupidity to argue that it’s not way more risky than straight sex.
I really could care less about all that when it’s between grown men. However, I’m with Russia in that you shouldn’t be promoting a deviant unhealthy lifestyle to kids. It’s not proven but homosexuality appears to be mixture of genetics plus environment. I don’t think gays should be persecuted but it certainly should be something to be avoided if you can do it, so you shouldn’t present it as a good alternative to normal sexual relations.
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private actions of consenting adults that have no impact on anyone other than the participants
Funny how leftists say that and then through propaganda, laws, taxation changes, campaigns, and their online writings/attacks try to eradicate conservative lifestyles.
And yes, what you do affects everyone else. Sometimes not much, sometimes a lot. If you have a movement where you walk around town holding your stinking feces in your hand it damages society, because people are instinctively disgusted by your feces, a strong instinct evolved from a desire to protect ourselves from disease. If you push homosexuality in everyone’s faces that is also a damaging act.
Noteworthy how full of hate leftists become when someone plays a band like Manowar in public. No “It’s his own business” then. And put a nationalistic bumper sticker on a car, the tires are slashed. No “his own business” then either. In northern Europe, young men and women have been attacked many times for carrying a necklace with Thor’s hammer, and many schools ban it as “racist”. You leftists always accuse your opponents of the aggressive behavior you yourselves display most of all.
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So let me get this straight: straight men should recognize and follow the instincts that evolution has hardwired into them, but gay men should not, instead they should be judged by the standards attributed to an imaginary supernatural being by ancient middle eastern tribespeople?
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@Furious Ferret
You can’t use STD data both ways. STD data favors lesbians, who have even lower rates than straight people. STD data also favors East Asians, who have lower rates of every STD except Hep B. Are you going to start suggesting that we all turn lesbo and start interracial dating?
(I think it’s hilarious when right wingnuts cherry pick data)
[CH: sometimes a difference of degree is a difference of kind.
(i think it’s hilarious when left wingnuts miss the nuance)]
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“You can’t use STD data both ways. STD data favors lesbians, who have even lower rates than straight people. STD data also favors East Asians, who have lower rates of every STD except Hep B. Are you going to start suggesting that we all turn lesbo and start interracial dating?
(I think it’s hilarious when right wingnuts cherry pick data)
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WTF are you even talking about?
Ok let me be more concise. Male homos live a very unclean filthy lifestyle that is exponentially much more dangerous than straight male lifestyle because of anal sex combined with massive partner counts on all parties involved.
Lesbians, who cares? Most girls are more fluid on their sexuality than men and the ones that are all the way lesbo are almost always disgusting.
East Asian women. Yes please.
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According to the CDC ( center for disease control ) over 80% of HIV/AIDS cases are gay men. About 15% are people who used needles to inject drugs, and the remaining 5 % is a mix of things but very few heterosexuals.
Knowing that and continuing to fuck in the ass as many men as they can makes those gays evil.
And since a large percentage of gay men are bi-sexual and occasionally fuck women, then our women are at risk, and we heterosexual men are at risk.
Gay men are a clear and present danger and they cost us billions of dollars in health care.
They know it and they keep fucking in the ass as many men as they can.
They are not evil for liking homosexual sex behind closed doors, they are evil for spreading HIV/AIDS like candies on Halloween .
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“So let me get this straight: straight men should recognize and follow the instincts that evolution has hardwired into them, but gay men should not, instead they should be judged by the standards attributed to an imaginary supernatural being by ancient middle eastern tribespeople?”
That’s a complete strawman argument. If you were really interested in understanding Arbiter’s pov, I doubt your characterization of his arguments wouldn’t be so ridiculous. Your type of “comeback” is just so typical.
Man should not go against the fundamentals of biology, no. (Example: We should not base a society on the idea that men and women are the same; it’s clearly not true.) At the same time, no one is arguing that people’s base instincts shouldn’t be tempered to some degree in the interest of the greater good. Is this too much for a liberal to wrap his brain around? A bit too nuanced?
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Canadian Friend is right on the money. The CDC has put the science hammer down on the issue of male homo/bi-sexuals.
They are a contagion, a plague, a menace. They spread STDs, particularly HIV, at massive rates not only within their own community but to women as well, as a non-trivial percentage are bisexuals.
In a sane society, they would be treated because they have a very dangerous illness. This would involve regular blood tests for STDs and quarantine if diagnosed with HIV.
I would personally pay for a CRISPR-Cas9 SNP altering treatment aimed at remedying the gay gene.
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@ChuckSteak – oh, sure, but if you’re going to base a claim to curb biological instincts based on the greater good, don’t you need a more scientific explanation of why the greater good would be served than appeals to imaginary skygods and “it’s icky”?
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Are you trying to say that those stipulations aren’t also common among straight couples? Nonmonogamy would be just as common in straight couples if it was as destigmatized with us as it is among the gays.
Isn’t it kind of ridiculous for this site to be defending monogamous marriage anyway? I thought this was where pretty lies came to perish. If you’re spinning plates and keeping two in the kitty you’re engaging in de facto polyamory already even if you don’t want to call it that.
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Sounds like you’re being gamed. This fag try any kino yet?
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i don’t know if it’s all part of the same push, but this is the case in so many leftoid demands– they aren’t trying to help they are trying to destroy.
so like barnum & bailey, agrees to get rid of elephants– the lefties immediately say great next up is cats. their aim is to destroy, and they know barnum will succumb.
mcdonald’s gets rid of beef tallow in fries– anyone let up on them after that?
every employee that apologizes for speaking out of the orthodoxy, like brendan eich– does the apology do anything but put blood in the water?
again, not positive this is all exactly the same thing, but there’s no reason to surrender _any_ ground to what are enemies, not neighbors. it is just an invitation for more of their destruction.
gay people are not marriage advocates that wanted to spread the joy, they are abnormal and angry and they want to destroy what other people have.
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Translation: “We must destroy the village to save it.”
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The gay couples I am familiar with aren’t monogamous; it’s a source of drama and manipulation, but not separation.
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I’ll chime in as a loyal gay reader. It’s really embarrassing how homosexuality has become so politicized. I’m gay but I just don’t make a big deal about it. It’s a sexual preference so believe the federal government really has no business in legislating in this domain. Personally I think the gay marriage issue should just be settled on a state by state basis.
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If I were gay but didn’t have a bug up my ass (heh) about western civilization, I’d get gaymarried for the tax breaks. It’s rent-seeking behavior. Can’t really blame them, loot this sinking ship before it hits the ocean floor fellas.
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The point of any pathogen is to spread itself to other multiple hosts, as many as possible. Since this can not be accomplished via monomagy which caps the spread at “1”, then of course, of course, of course, banging other people is going to happen.
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Marriage is an artificial concept created by the elite to keep the peasants locked down with their offspring.
Early humans living in nomadic hunter-gatherer tribes looked very similar to lion prides or chimpanzee troops. Most children were offspring of the chief alpha male and his lessor alpha allies in the warrior class. Child rearing duties were done by women and supportive lesser beta males. All women competed to breed with the alpha. No one really knew who the fathers of the children were. It didn’t matter anyway, all the children were members of the tribe. It takes a village to raise a child.
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I know several gay couples that “married.” They are all open relationships now. I frequently point out that being gay and promiscuous in a relationship is all roses to them. Why would they want to mess it up by getting a bunch of lawyers and judges involved if they break up by getting married? Crickets.
Sure, you get the typical response of “Well if my partner goes into the hospital I don’t have family rights, estate planning is harder, etc.” But this is all non-sense and easily resolved with some simple legal docs.
No, the point is duplicity in attacking heterosexual marriage. There is no other reason to explain why you’d want to lock into relationship that involves, at a minimum, thousands of dollars of attorneys and judges to abolish. At worst, losing half your possessions as many me experience each day. And to do all of this when society doesn’t even want or expect you to get married? It’s completely bonkers and clearly shows that the intention is not about “fairness” at all, but just spite.
Most hetero men would jump at the chance to be in a long term relationship with no legal entanglements if things go south. If gays and lesbians want marriage, let them have it! A hetero guy today would have be nuts to get married when the idea of what marriage is is being utterly destroyed from every conceivable angle.
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Gay marriage was always about undermining the traditional concept of marriage. Part of the Frankfurt School.s long march through the institutions. I remember reading a comment by one of its earliest proponents, some lesbian Jewish hag, that this was indeed the real reason.
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I think the temptation is just too much for gay guys. Imagine a world where almost every girl wants to fuck at all time every day of the week. That’s what the world is like any decently physical attractive gay guy in relation to other gay men. You don’t have to romance or game the other gay men. You simply have to be visually acceptable and it’s off to the races.
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” Imagine a world where ”
Imagine a world without modern medicine and anti-biotics..
This level of promiscuity where gays have 100s of anonymous Anal “sex” partners would result in lots of infections, disease and death.
I am not that religious, but it should not surprise anyone that new and dangerous diseases popped up so quickly given the mechanics of Gay sex
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Yes, I’ve heard of that. A homosexual date is to have coffee or beer to talk for a while, “and if you like each other you go home to have sex”.
Not just for the men. Two homosexual gal pals made a chart over who had had sex with who in their city’s lesbian environment, and they found that all of them were connected in one big muff-diving web. “Everybody has sex with everybody”, one of them said in the documentary. Giggling. Just fifty years ago, I bet showing pride of that fact in front of the camera would have been considered gauche even among homosexuals.
We truly live in the classless society. Not without classes, but without class.
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That’s my line, thief.
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Get off your high horses. How is it “your line” when it’s been around a long time? You think you’re the first to talk about classless and class? Talk about lacking class. And knowledge.
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Class and lack of class: Diana’s brother uses a verson of that wordplay at her funeral, referring to the late princess’s ‘natural nobility’ in a dig at Elizabeth II and Charles.
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Easy there, killer. It was a joke, not an accusation of high treason.
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“…Imagine a world where almost every girl wants to fuck at all time every day of the week … ”
Men would have never built Western Civilization and all its wonders if they had been able to fuck 20 different women a day which is about the number of different men gay men have sex with in one night at a bath house or wherever they do that these days. ( which is why over 80% of HIV/AIDS is gay men )
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Exactly. Imagine the insanity of the unrestrained male sex drive paired with others of the same kind. All-day, non stop, reckless, unprotected fuck fest.
What I don’t understand is the argument that homosexuality is “against nature”, as canadianFriend says. That’s a wholesome sounding conservative value judgement, and while gay sex may be genetically, evolutionarily, and reproductively worthless, gayness as a trait is not necessarily so.
It’s been supposed that gay men in caveman days may have been a male presence on the home (hut) front, providing physical strength and spatial reasoning skills, etc. to a gaggle of females and helping to raise children and prepare food.
Also, notice how gay men in modern society bring a male rationality, acuity, and drive to bear on traditionally “female dominated” fields like fashion, visual design, jewelry, etc and do it way better. Hah.
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“Gay marriage is nothing less than a front in the everlasting [Scots-Irish] war against white male European culture.”
CH = THE BEST EVER
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Homosexuality is disgusting and objectively not positively evolutionarily selected-for for obvious reasons. Morally according to every major religion it is an abomination. It provides no benefit to society and garners only disgust from any reasonable human being.
To say that homosexuality is genetic is a misnomer. If there were a genetic component, then the gene cluster would switch on a phenotype which could not sustain itself biologically and reproduce to be passed down. Thus, it can only be considered a mutation, and one with deleterious evolutionary downstream effects via its expression.
The other option is that it is environmentally influenced, which champions of the left vehemently deny. This is, of course, because they want to push their agenda utilizing the “they can’t help it!!!” Shriek, where environmental factors in the home would indicate to a large extent that it’s a choice.
Guess which camp I subscribe to?
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Homosexuality is disgusting and objectively not positively evolutionarily selected-for for obvious reasons. Morally according to every major religion it is an abomination. It provides no benefit to society and garners only disgust from any reasonable human being.
To say that homosexuality is genetic is a misnomer. If there were a genetic component, then the gene cluster would switch on a phenotype which could not sustain itself biologically and reproduce to be passed down. Thus, it can only be considered a mutation, and one with deleterious evolutionary downstream effects via its expression.
The other option is that it is environmentally influenced, which champions of the left vehemently deny. This is, of course, because they want to push their agenda utilizing the “they can’t help it!!!” Shriek, where environmental factors in the home would indicate to a large extent that it’s a choice.
Guess which camp I subscribe to?
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“A different study, published in 1985, concluded that open gay relationships actually lasted longer.”
Where promiscuity is the norm, the prospect of openness is about the only thing that could convince you to enter a relationship. But suuuuure, straight marriages would be strengthened if only we all agreed to become swingers.
Eggs are expensive, sperm is cheap. When neither partner has anything of value to protect, the jizz flies freely.
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What’s “gay marriage”? It’s a mind-bender, like imagining “dark sunlight” or “dry water.”
Sodomites have every opportunity to get married, equal to every other citizen. They’ve been doing it ever since the deviancy slithered into existence. Their “right” to marriage has never been denied at any place, ever.
The only reason why we are playing word games today — and never at any other point in history — is because the institution of marriage no longer exists as a cultural institution, which foundered on no-fault divorce, the pill, abortion, and feminist antinomy long ago. Into that vacated word the freaks have been pouring any definition that occurs to them. I think one fellow in Japan “married” his pillow. Some heifer in the heartland “married herself.”
I mean, when Emperor Heliogabalus shacked up with a dude, even he didn’t try to alter the institution. He altered his sex instead, retaining the terms Husband and Wife, and calling himself the latter. He also married his namesake the Sun God to a meteor rock representing the Moon Goddess, so he wasn’t a total marriage bigot.
Matt
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Gay marriage is nothing less than a front in the everlasting equalist war against white male European culture.
Gay marriage is one cultural schism put to use by the Lords of Lies toward the redefinition and de-stigmatization of marriage from an organic mate pair system which safeguards the primacy of paternity assurance to a free-for-all “liberation” that corrodes trust between heterosexual couples and renders hetero beta males wholly prostrate to an antagonistic marriage market stripped of any protections for their particular interests.
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If nothing else lower class white males need some humor. How about some rhymes: A limp dick tranny must be your kids nanny – civil rights act! Or how about some comedy to attack the liberals misunderstanding of the concept of bigotry: Join us to discover how chicks with dicks are joining forces with radical islamic militants to help fight the bigots!
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Just another confirmation of what we all already knew. But gay marriage isn’t what’s destroying marriage; marriage had already become so weak and tenuous anyway that gay marriage is more a confirmation that the institution is on it’s last legs. Otherwise society wouldn’t have gone along with the joke to help make marriage a laughingstock by affirming this as a “real” marriage.
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White people are the cancer of humanity. We will turn all of you gay. Oy vey!
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The incredible thing is that Susan Sontag actually said that first line. And still she is held up as a feminist icon. And STILL no one mentions what race she belongs to, which is kinda relevant when she attacks Whites. People are instead led to believe she would be White herself. (Same with Betty Friedan, Naomi Wolf, Andrea Dworkin, etc.)
And no one mentions the homosexuality of the man haters like Sonntag, Friedan, Dworkin, Sheila Jeffreys, Ti-Grace Atkinson, Marilyn Frye, Cheryl Clarke, Valerie Solanas, Sheila Cronin, Susan Griffin, Mary Daly, Barbara Jordan, Joyce Trebilcot, etc. That would put their feminism and misandry in perspective.
How many feminist icons were heterosexual, White and non-Marxist?
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So what you’re saying is that gay men are a bit more advanced in creating viable red pill-based modes of living than the rest of us?
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They create and raise their posterity… how?
There is an article on Yahoo about a man who quit his job as engineer and bought a van, which he adopted to living needs. He travels and lives out of that van.
Great fucking way to live, if you ask me. I feel the call of the wild and I briefly fantasize about doing that. I’m somewhat technically-minded and my thoughts drift toward imagining how I’d rig my van, before driving it northwest and doing dishwasher gigs along the way to make cash. Then it’s a six pack of beer, my six-sting, and a stunning Yukon sunset.
In another life, as a solo male, maybe I’d do that. Thankfully in my twenties I did that a bit. But now I have responsibilities to the second generation, and at this time living out of a van is not good for them.
One more thing about opening your wings… it can get really fucking lonely at times.
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Well, they raise their posterity at least … high into the air, in bed.
viable red pill-based modes of living
Pay attention. Homosexuals have far higher rates of domestic abuse, alcoholism, drug abuse, suicide. They are also far more likely to be murderers and pedophiles. Just look at those who infiltrate the Cath church to prey on boys, that’s a life-long commitment to molesting children. (And of course the media only talk about them as priests.) What’s viable about this? Or about promoting leftist causes that aim at dividing Western society – women against men, parasites against the hard-working, workers against business owners, young against old, perverts against normals, immigrants against Westerners – in order to increase the Left’s support? And how is it viable to use taxpayers’ money, to use the media, to use the schools in order to make the weak, the attention-seeking, the borderline cases, the lonely, turn to homosexuality as much as possible, regardless of the effects on them later in life? Call it viable as much as you want, it must be opposed.
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Speaking of the “call of the wild,” I don’t think there’s anything as natural as a man and a woman raising children together. I’m gay but I have the self awareness to realize that. Furthermore, I don’t carry the childish resentment that many feminists and lesbians have against “the patriarchy” – I think at their core most gay men are with me on that. As Camille Paglia said “Heterosexual love is in sync with cosmic forces. Not everyone has the stomach for daily war with nature.”
Your fantasy about “opening your wings” is rightly tempered by your understanding that it is “fucking lonely.” There’s many a night when I drive home from work and wish I had a wife to great me with a hot meal or one of my kids run up to the door to show me his report card. Men being men, once the sexual sizzle dies out of a relationship there’s not a whole lot to sustain it… that’s where the sustenance of filial love comes in to create a full and meaningful life through your progeny.
That said I do believe the natural eccentricity of gay men and the attendant loneliness does foster the distinct and very potent creativity you see in this population. Acceptance of homosexuality goes hand and hand with decadence; as negative as the connotation of that mode of cultural expression is I’d take it any day over a dour, repressive and overly serious theocracy… I mean Islam … the boring geometric non-representational art, the total disregard for fashion (those burqas, ugh!). Same goes for the tacky Jesus iconography and drippy sentimentalism of what passes for much mainline protestant Christianity.
America’s #1 export is its pop culture and gay men have proven to be most exquisite tastemakers in that regard… I guess I’m just saying America is successful because it does embrace it’s misfits to a degree.
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>>> America’s #1 export is its pop culture
…actually, not even close to correct. Any average tractor mechanic in North Dakota is ten times more important to America’s balance of trade, than you are.
But they say that the man who can only see the hammer, starts to think that all problems are nails. That’s you, fruitcake.
>>>> and gay men have proven to be most exquisite tastemakers in that
…. you have done, and will do – whatever the Hollywood Chapter of our Tribe hires you to do and allows you to do. You are VERY far down on the food chain.
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homo:
I’d take it any day over a dour, repressive and overly serious theocracy… I mean Islam … the boring geometric non-representational art, the total disregard for fashion (those burqas, ugh!). Same goes for the tacky Jesus iconography and drippy sentimentalism of what passes for much mainline protestant Christianity.
Boring is tacky. The history found in the gospels is never boring. E.g., Jesus flirting with a Samaritan woman at a well. Shock! (Wrote a post about this.) Another woman wiping Jesus’ feet at a dinner party with her hair. Oh, wait, she was a whore. A disciple leaning on Jesus’ breast. Physical closeness and relaxed, engaging body language. Lots of playful convo if you know how to read. Playful. Fun. Biting. Controversial. Engaging. Not long, dull sermons and stiff formal suits. Not remote, unengaged, irrelevant, and boring. Very different from today’s churches.
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you have done, and will do – whatever the Hollywood Chapter of our Tribe hires you to do and allows you to do. You are VERY far down on the food chain
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You cannot help but like this yid
Actually we encourage you to continue to boast
Throughout the history that has been proven to be last the phase before your ass is kicked out
450 times or so but you never learn
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“But they say that the man who can only see the hammer, starts to think that all problems are nails. That’s you, fruitcake.
…. you have done, and will do – whatever the Hollywood Chapter of our Tribe hires you to do and allows you to do. You are VERY far down on the food chain.”
For a man who can only see Jews under his bed, they start to think all problems are a YKW conspiracy.
And if anything is to be learned from the past 40 years of economic history, is that those tractors you mention can be manufactured by Mexicans or robots.
Basically everyone in the world watches American movies and TV, and listens to American music.
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“Basically everyone in the world watches American movies and TV, and listens to American music.”
Bullshit. Speaking as someone who has for many years actually lived in multiple countries around the world, the wide swathe of people outside the Echelon nations actually prefer and overwhelmingly consume their own national and regional television shows and music. People generally like songs and stories in their own languages, featuring the physical ideals of their own cultures. Weird, huh?
Of course, it is true that the ideologies of even these national local programming choices are also very heavily directed to introduce and normalize the globalist/ant-white/anti-tradition/anti-local/anti-male ideologies that are so familiar in US programming. Perhaps that is what you meant to say.
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[…] Source: Heartiste […]
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Gays want to get married, not be married. Getting married is a fun party!
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Getting married is a fun party!
With access to your husbands Inheritance
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Many women are the same way.
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That consent is key. “With straight people, it’s called affairs or cheating,” said Colleen Hoff, the study’s principal investigator, “but with gay people it does not have such negative connotations.”
Except for AIDS. But hey, why notice?
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Fags have no use for monogamy and lesbians fuck men all the time. Lesbianism does not exist. Theyre bisexual. The recent articles discussing the study on womens sexual reaponse as measured via blood rush to their hot pussies compared to what they reported as stumulating further proves this. Women are sex maniacs and will fick anything if released from the chains of patriarchal induced decency. Claims to the contrary be damned.
Really why would they need a system that serves to ensure a man is raising his progeny?
Gay marriage is a farce. Theyre just playing house.
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Lol male sluts. King, get a life.
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Odd… I was under the impression that most lesbian marriages sexless when they weren’t physically abusive.
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This point is made in the new 3rd season of House of Cards. The Gay prisoner Michael admit’s to Claire that gay marriage is a sham.
HoC is Red Pill as fuck.
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Someone being homosexual due to a birth defect, that’s understandable. Someone like Justin Raimondo at Antiwar, who is no doubt such a case. He says he has never encountered hostility from people in paleoconservative circles, like Pat Buchanan, who simply accept his condition. (But he is called a “faggot” and more by leftists online for opposing the agenda of the homosexual organizations.) It is simply regrettable, like a guy bound to a wheelchair. You shouldn’t be called a “hater” for noting that it is regrettable.
But the ones who choose the homosexual subculture to get an environment of easy sex, alcohol, drugs and partying – those should be condemned. (As studies show, the majority of “homosexuals” stay that way only part of their lives.) As should those who try to affect the minds of young, weak-willed men, of borderline cases who could probably go either way, of those fatherless, rootless cases who desperately want something to belong to. Of those who have been sexually abused by homosexuals. Sending homos to schools to do this, that’s criminal.
We know that a large percentage of men in homosexual circles have been abused by other men. This is a case of being obsessed with that which has hurt you, in an attempt to feel that you master it. Also, more than 40 percent of homosexual women have been sexually molested or raped – for them, it is a case of being afraid of the penis, fleeing to other women instead. Therapists are allowed to help them with other behaviors caused by their trauma, but they are forbidden from helping with this one due to politics.
Furthermore, 70 percent of homosexual women in the U.S. are obese. A case of finding a partner when men don’t want them.
This combined with the destructive behavior that is rampant in the homosexual subculture, and with their political activism, their strong alliance with the Hollywood bosses so that they could create their own establishment in the media business, where they have parties where young and poor boys are molested – this means they must be opposed.
A homosexual who was simply born that way and who opposes the agenda – good. The rest of you – you deserve every moment of pain in your disease-riddled bodies.
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“Gays want to get married, not be married.”
Just as women want to be “in love”, not actually love someone.
The former is full of tingles, emotion and drama. The latter is hard work and at times very unpleasant.
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The Inheritance effects of Gay Marriage are going to smash WOMEN* in THEIR old age.
Large sums of INHERITANCE MONEY that would otherwise go to Women (the mothers, sisters and children of Gays) is now is now going to go to the “Husband” (or common law de-facto).
So enjoy the “wedding ceremony” sistas because in 20 years “tung tung” the ladyboy bride from thailand is gonna get 30-50% of your parents house.
*Men much less effected because of shorter life expectancy and larger retirement savings.
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WOMEN* are going to get financially smashed by gay marriage. Let me make it simple for the hampsters:
1) Imagine youre old 60 or 70 but with 20 years more to live
2) Your parents die leaving a house to you and your gay brother (whose life expectancy is much less than yours)
3) Your Gay brothers “husband” (or common law defacto) now gets HALF the INHERITANCE MONEY that would otherwise go to YOU.
4a) You spend your final years fighting over money with someone who is not family and was never faithful to your brother or
4b) You go to bed every night with Arsenic in your viens from the Bok Choy soup served up by Tung Tung the ladyboy bride and his 30 relatives from Thailand who are now living with you in your parents house.
*Assumptions…Women can’t / won’t / don’t save for retirement
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I know in eastern Europe one of the first things that is done when a CIA regime change is made….Gay Parade.
Ask Obama who he visited with last time he was in Russia. Not Putin. Hard to believe but neocon America is doing it’s damnedest to export it’s gay/fem agenda. In fact Russians now refer to Americans as fagots joking about their gay parades.
As much as I would love to go out with Russian women I would not travel there anymore. They used to want a piece of America, no more.
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“A middle ground might be to fight for same sex marriage and its benefits, and then, once granted, redefine the institution completely, to demand the right to marry not as a way of adhering to society’s moral codes but rather to debunk a myth and radically alter an archaic institution.” — Michelangelo Signorile, “Bridal Wave,” OUT Magazine, December/January 1994, p.161
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I have always said that gays are not America’s concern it is the beta neocon agenda which aggressively pursues Americans submission to the gay lifestyle. Americans now live in fear of saying anything negative about the gay lifestyle. Welcome to the so called freedom Kris Kyle killed for.
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America invaded Iraq for freedom?
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America invaded Iraq for freedom?
No they did it because one morning Bush and Rove got tired of eating puppies for breakfast.
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I lost a brother-in-law to Desert Storm. West Point’r – Tank Battalion Commander. His gay son ran through his inheritance living out the lifestyle in SanFrancisco. Now he lives on his mom’s couch. I reserve a special contempt of all faggots.
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The real social danger, is what they’re pushing, acceptance of open marriage.
Getting the betas to accept their women sleeping around (because they’re beta they’re not going to have the opportunity the women have).
The problem, and its a very real on is that the only incentive left for beta men to get married is the illusion that they are locking the girl down.
You take that illusion away and what possible reason do they have to get married and work hard?
None. Your married, hard working married slave boys are your revenue generators for your tax base and economy, Dalrock has that delineated out clearly. Single men, single women and married women have a small percentage of individuals that make a high income.
Married men are more likely to make more, work more.
They’ve erode marriage so far, I’m sure they think this won’t matter, but in the places where gay marriage is legalized the marriage rate drops faster for this very reason.
There will always be men that think they’re special snowflakes and that they’re relationship will be different, but that number of fools is already getting smaller
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“Married men are more likely to make more, work more”
I believe you have your order of causation reversed. Marriage doesn’t affect a man’s earning ability. Certainly not in the modern day, when employers can no longer openly pay married men more “because they have a family to support”. Rather, women’s hypergamy pushes them to marry higher-earning men, who also tend to work more than lower-wage men.
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Off topic here. Marriage can be a real challenge. To any of you single guys out there tread wisely. Marriage is a whole different ball game. I do not see many long term married guys on this forum talk about their marriage.
Last year I finally did a reset on my marriage after many years of beta hell. Used an 8 step process which I talked about earlier. Found ROK’s and CH just a couple months ago. Was like drinking out of a fire hydrant. I consider myself a very strong Alpha but as CH has shown marriage can naturally betasize a man. Anyway as I am finding out you still have to consistently maintain a strong frame and do maintenance. I have a filly who can cop an attitude out of thin air. She is also good at playing all kinds of shit game cards. Her mom was/is a monster and her dad is an icon for all beta’s to follow. In fact my wife promised herself she would never marry someone as passive as her dad. Her younger sister is almost worse than the mom. Who the sister married is a real trip.
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The 50% figure is bullshit. Read “The Man Who Would Be Queen”. One study found that all 156 gay male couples had outside sex partners within 5 years. Average gay man at age 35 had 1,000 lifetime sex partners. Monogamy is impossible for gay men. The only way they can be “married” is if we remove monogamy from the definition of marriage.
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‘Homosexuality DOESN’T EXIST in most hunter-gatherers…’
https://westhunt.wordpress.com/2012/02/16/depths-of-madness/
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Why does this matter at all to you? You advocate for straight men to be promiscuous so don’t be surprised that gay men want to be promiscuous too.
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Men being promiscuous is close to what nature intended, while gay men fucking each other in the ass is against nature.
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Also, gay marriage has nothing to do with anti-male divorce courts.
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Insomuch as it cheapens the entire concept of marriage, I think there’s an osmotic effect.
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Don’t be so sure about that. Gay marriages don’t face the same issues that hetero marriages do, like offspring, adultery, paternity fraud, child custody rights between biological parents.
But in the name of ‘”‘”equality'”‘” they will be governed by the same laws and the same courts. This will give homosexuals legal standing to influence laws governing heterosexual marriage and divorce, because ‘”‘”fairness”‘”‘. Seems like a dangerous idea to me.
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Insomuch as it cheapens the entire concept of marriage, I think there’s an osmotic effect.
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“some experts say boundary-challenging gay relationships represent an evolution in marriage — one that might point the way for the survival of the institution.”
To survive as only a plaything of the legal profession.
It will also encourage women to scheme of ways to rework the marriage contract when they feel like to get 50 shades of dick on the side and bail out of their responsibilities in the partnership.
“I married him, but I never agreed to the reverse cowgirl or to be monogamous”
“I married him but I never agreed to wash the stains out of his children’s underwear”
Marriage will evolve all right, into a dicey proposition at best unless you have money to pay for the right contract to protect yourself from evolution or change you do not want.
Pre-nuptial agreements almost become mandatory to record promises made at the beginning. But it’s a band aid on gaping wound. As soon as marriages have porous boundaries then you may as well each just retain lawyers and start a limited liability company.
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“Mark my words, a massive elite push to legitimize and maybe even codify polyamory is next on the agenda”
Of course it is. Muslims are one of the left’s darling groups, and their religion permits polygamy (but not polyandry). Where Islamic norms conflict with non-Islamic ones, Islamic norms must prevail. Like the left, they aggressively use lawfare to accomplish that goal.
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From what I can tell gay marriage was mostly pushed by straight women SJWs, middle aged lesbians, and few token gay men. Very few of the men actually get married, and for the ones that do it’s mostly a reason to throw a party. They also consider a “marital” relationship no more or less binding than any other.
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Remember the Chic-Fil-A fiasco? There was an article written by a former gay that was basically pushed into being gay by his two mothers who told him all his life that he should be gay and it is normal, you need to be gay because it is normal etc. As an adult it took years of therapy to realize he was not gay.
He further wrote on the gay perspective about that whole controversy and the whole gay marriage issue. To summarize, he stated no matter how many laws are passed, no matter how accepting main stream society will be, it will NOT be that magic wand that will fix your life and how you feel. He stated that the basic self loathing, the feeling of being different, the anger, the depression, and the whole spectrum of negative emotions will all still be there.
Basically the gay movement wants is NORMALCY. They want to be accepted the same way as a heterosexual couple would be, and the author states that even if they get the laws they want, it will NOT fix your life.
I support gay marriage because in the end, things will remain the status quo. There will be a minor surge in gay marriage until they find out how painful divorce is and go right back to cohabitation, except they now have their precious law that will give them the illusion of normalcy, but even with a law, they will still be the same angst ridden selves.
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[…] Back in October, CH wrote, based on social circle confessionals, that gay marriage is a farce. I’ll let you in on a leetle secret… Every gay marriage that was talked about was an open relationship. […]
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Is the case of leftists’ favourite groups attacking them, a case of white egoists being suppressed by ethnocentric agents of a different tribe?
http://racehist.blogspot.com.au/2015/03/robert-axelrod-on-evolution-of.html
Examining the dynamics of the model reveals how the ethnocentric strategy becomes so common and how “cheaters” are suppressed by ethnocentrics of a dif ferent color. In the early periods of a run, the scattered immigrants create regions of similar agents (Figure la). Colonies of those willing to cooperate with their own color will tend to grow faster, but over time, they face free riding by egoists who arise by mutation. Egoists who free ride cannot be suppressed by ethnocentrics of the same color and therefore tend to erode cooperative regions. Once the space is nearly full, another dynamic is added as regions with different attributes expand until they are adjacent to each other. These dynamics can be analyzed in terms of regions of contiguous agents having the same color and strategy (Figure lb). The most important aspect of regional dynamics is that an ethnocentric region will tend to expand at the expense of a region of a different color using any one of the other three strategies (Figure 2). In this way, free riding is controlled?egoists of any one color are suppressed by ethnocentric agents of different colors.
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That’s one way of removing the opposition:
Spiritual leader ‘manipulated 400 men into removing testicles so they could be closer to God’. A man has been accused of encouraging hundreds of followers to be castrated in a promise for them to become closer to God.Gurmeet Ram Rahim Singh, an Indian pop-star and telepreacher with a reported wealth of more than $50 million, is being investigated after he allegedly manipulated around 400 men to get their testicles removed – according to India Today.
http://www.independent.ie/world-news/asia-pacific/spiritual-leader-manipulated-400-men-into-removing-testicles-so-they-could-be-closer-to-god-31033481.html
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In the quest for at-one-ment with God, this is certainly an unconvential way to get the ball rolling.
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Take a look at the next thing on the agenda, headed to the good ole’ U.S. of A. soon enough:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2972542/They-look-like-new-boy-band-s-world-s-THREE-WAY-sex-marriage-Gay-Thai-men-tie-knot-fairytale-ceremony.html
Heh, “Fairytale wedding”. Oh, I bet it was.
Notice the comments are closed after 56 entries. Also notice the realtalk comments get thousands of upvotes, while the Cathedral-approved well wishers get thousands of downvotes.
Somewhere, Mr. Sunstein is feeling phantom shiv pain.
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2972542/They-look-like-new-boy-band-s-world-s-THREE-WAY-sex-marriage-Gay-Thai-men-tie-knot-fairytale-ceremony.html
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Interesting to see just how effective the liberal programming machine is. My family is a bunch of rural proles. 20 years ago there would have been unanimous and unambiguous opposition to fags getting married. As the propaganda onslaught has rolled on over the years (and the legalization of gay marriage in Canada in 2003) even my family has buckled on this issue. The older men are still mostly against it, the older women now basically say “I don’t care what they do as long as they don’t push it on me” (too late), younger men are mildly opposed to indifferent; younger women basically all support it – and this is the rural working class! Dad’s side is Protestant and generally more opposed, step-mom’s side are lapsed Catholics and generally less opposed to gay issues.
However, if you work in an office in the city and oppose gay marriage, you’re basically a social pariah (at least in Canada, and most of the US except for the South and Rockies. )
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Its a scam to collect benefits from pensions and social security from “partners”. Look further if you will but that is what the so called “community” is after, not love and acceptance.
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Want to keep little boys safe from being raped? Kill all the sodomites.
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I agree. But why. Don’t the lib elites come from the European culture they are destroying?
Is it a case of slam the door after you get through so no one else can enjoy the gains of the industrial and technological advancements we’ve had over the past xxx years?
Like the past low level employee becoming a dick tyrant when he becomes supervisor?
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Of course they are not monogamous. The evolutionary purpose of monogamy is basically paternity assurance and resource assurance. It is tied to procreation. Homosexuals do not procreate.
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Just like the Romans.
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This just in: Straight marriage is a farce.
[CH: quantity of decadence is its own quality.]
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Not a one of these gays who were married, or planned to get married, held any pretense of practicing monogamy.
I’m straight and I have no intention of ever practicing monogamy if I were to ever “marry” either. Feminism is to thank for that – there are so few “real” men out there that women will do anything to keep a man – even if that means “sharing” him with other women on his terms. Marriage is a thing of the past – and I have to say, “Good riddance.”
More and more women are catching onto the fact that if they are to have a man in their life, it will be on his terms and saddling himself with only one sexual outlet just isn’t in the cards. Not to mention avoiding the tax hit for marriage in the traditional sense. So while I don’t know what the future holds for the women who make up the core group that I see, I can say that over the last several years they have become a lot more accepting to the fact that in order to have some semblance of a “traditional” relationship, they will have to make some modifications – one being that he will be a lot older, and another being that she will share him, since there are younger women always waiting in the wings to take their place.
That is why I thank Feminists. They have freed men, from the shackles of marriage. Of course, they have set bear traps and codified laws to his detriment for any man stupid enough to try to play by the old rules. So to win in the new world, you have to come up with new rules, while dancing around the old. Just like in business – to win today, you have to exploit all of the laws designed to stop you, in a way they never intended.
So learn from the “gay” men – there are billions of young women out there for you to enjoy. And you can “play” house with any of them for as long as you wish, and it amuses you to do so… Just never sign anything, and remember – exploit everything that you can. You don’t “WIN” at life by playing by the rules… Not anymore… .
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The NYT’s link does not work
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I believe this is the link to the case study cited in the article.
Am I correct in understanding that one argument in the article is that these open relationships will save heterosexual marriage? This sounds fucked up.
http://thecouplesstudy.com/wp-content/uploads/BeyondMonogamy_1_01.pdf
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“Mark my words, a massive elite push to legitimize and maybe even codify polyamory is next on the agenda.”
Only half right. The push will be for feminist polyamory is next on the agenda. There is no way these betaboys will allow a man to legally cheat on their wives. They will, however justify the unfaithful trysts of feminazis, especially lesbian trysts. They will say how it is only fair because men have cheated on their wives for centuries.
Our nation is unmoored from the dock of sensibility.
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@ senseiern
Good call. Your prediction shows amazing prescience and I can’t believe the distinction you’ve suggested never occurred to me before.
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In the future utopia, that society’s Jacky Gleason’s catchphrase will be “one of these days Alan… one of these days… POW! Right up the shitter!”
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I’m no catholic, but it should be obvious that the principles taught by their priests aren’t supposed to bend for the congregation. http://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/sport/parishioners-walk-out-of-mass-after-priest-criticises-footballers-stance-on-gay-marriage-665910.html
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I worked for a company in the SF Bay Area part time while in college owned by a married bi-sexual male who’s clientele I soon discovered were mostly gay men.
I found it interesting the reality of a high level of promiscuity in the “committed relationship” sub culture of the SF gay community. As my job required interfacing with customers in a semi-social environment, I was hit on and propositioned regularly by older gay men all of whom were “married” or self described as being in a “happy, solid, committed, relationship”.
One guy was HIV+ with oozing skin lesions who lived with his “husband” who was supporting him since he was on disability. Nevertheless the guy propositioned me and insisted his “husband” didn’t care about him getting some strange on the side. This was back when AIDS was a death sentence because the drug cocktails that slow the spread of AIDS were in their infancy.
The gay community plays the victim card effectively when it comes to creating the perception that being persecuted for their orientation and the spread of AIDS is unfair and not their fault. The reality is a culture of promiscuity and not using protection is their downfall and has created a greater HIV infection rate in the straight community.
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I came here thinking that I would find an outspoken, but intelligent, blog dealing with men’s rights. Instead, I found an outspoken blog that’s really kind of dumb. Take this anti-gay hit piece. The claim is that “gay marriage is a farce.” The author first attempts to support this by citing to more of his own claims from last October. But claims aren’t evidence, and even if they were, his October piece concerned certain unnamed gay friends of his who are *not* married and do *not* intend to get married. It makes no sense to draw conclusions about gay married couples from a non-random sample of gay people who want nothing to do with marriage.
Then the author cites a NYT blog piece, which in turn is about a study of gay couples in San Francisco. The piece is from 2010, so kudos to the author on keeping up with the latest data. In any event, the couples study is not a study of gay married couples. In fact, it began at a time when gay marriage was not legal. It isn’t a prevalence study. In other words, it does not look at a representative sample in order to determine how widespread or how rare certain conduct is. It deliberately seeks out a broad range of different types of couples (open, monogamous, unmarried, married, etc) to examine various aspects of their quality of life. It is like a study that recruits 50% heavy smokers, 25% light smokers, and 25% non-smokers in order to assess commonalities and differences among the groups. Unless you were a complete moron, you would never cite that study for the proposition that 50% of Americans are heavy smokers.
In fact, there are studies which have looked at the prevalence of monogamy among gays and lesbians. What they have shown fairly consistently is: 1) lesbians are very monogamous, more so than heterosexual couples. 2) gay male couples are sensitive to external incentives and disincentives regarding monogamy. Monogamy was a distinctly minority practice in the 1970s, but from that low point, it has increased steadily. It is now the norm for gay male couples (married and unmarried) and this was true even before the gay marriage phenomenon.
[Ch: i have heard these confessions of gay promiscuity from married gays and gays in multi-year, ostensibly monogamous relationships.]
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[…] Gay marriage is a leftoid equalist project to undermine and eventually to destroy the traditional and biologically heterocentric configuration of marriage. Gay marriage is nothing less than a front in the everlasting equalist war against white male European culture. […]
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They are the new eunuch class, and everyone should read up on what happened to them once their masters weren’t there to protect them. They will always be intrinsically disordered and against everything good and holy. Their destruction is a natural facet of our goals.
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