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What A Butthurt Feminist Sounds Like

March 13, 2015 by CH

A commenter going by the handle Desdinova Superstar (she bright long time) was a little piqued about the crass CH insinuation that makeup is a try-hard, penis-pedestaling beautification routine women religiously perform according to the precepts of an ancient genetic algorithm that subconsciously compels them to attract the highest quality men possible. Her ham-headed feminist gogrrl delusion is the sort of fresh meat I love to tear from the bone.

– “Women should, and will, continue to put the penis on a pedestal and try-hard to please men by using makeup to increase their attractiveness”

I personally do not believe that women use makeup to attract men.

You may not believe in sublimated sexual displays, but sexual displays believe in you.

I believe that women use makeup and clothing to compete with the attractiveness of other women.

Same difference. Women compete with other women to be the one woman men can’t help but notice.

The thought of attracting men hardly crosses their mind.

This is what all girls say. I recall a girlfriend once indignantly proclaiming, when I teased her on the matter, that she dolls herself up for no one but herself. It is to guffaw.

Girlwords carry about as much weight as John Scalzi’s jockstrap. It doesn’t matter that girls say they never think about attracting men when they slip into high heels and a slinky dress. That no-good, horrible, very bad thought doesn’t have to cross a woman’s mind for the underlying function to be the same: Namely, the enhancement of her beauty to attract men from among whom she can choose as her best option mate. Her gene puppeteer has made sure she does the right things to maximize her chances of scoring Mr. Right. Paradoxically, her genes have also made sure she is only dimly aware, if at all, of the procreatively devious machinations of her helical overlord. The transmission signal is strengthened when the electrochemical vessel doesn’t poke around too much in the circuitry.

They want to look better, more attractive, and get the attention of the women they’re competing against.

Look better… for men. Be more attractive… for men. Get the attention of women… to remind them not to poach their men.

Attracting men is just a side effect.

Dear adorably deluded Desdinova, you have it backwards. Attracting a suitable man is the prime directive. Makeup is the side effect.

The only time women think about attracting a man is when they’re competing against each other for a man who has high social value.

Or anytime a charming man enters the room, with or without other women present. Do you think women can only have feelings of lust or love for a man when other women are loitering nearby?

The only time women put on makeup for a man is when they’re self-conscious about their imperfections which usually occurs at the beginning of a relationship.

Or, you know, which occurs every other time a woman wants to feel attractive, including all that time as a single lady bemoaning her singleness.

After she gets “comfortable”, she’s no longer self-conscious and quits wearing makeup.

Clarification: After her boyfriend turns beta, she no longer worries about pleasing him. Which should be a lesson for men who choose the ball and chain. And, fyi, most women deep in relationships continue wearing makeup outside the home and on romantic nights out.

I swear, the argumentative style and peculiar mental contortions that feminists exhibit when reminded of their ultimate purpose here on earth share amazing similarities with the semantic effluvium of game-hating betas angrily whining against “putting the pussy on a pedestal”. Two peabrains in a pod. They belong together.

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  1. on March 13, 2015 at 7:43 am What A Butthurt Feminist Sounds Like | Manosphere.com

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    • on March 16, 2015 at 10:22 pm van gorilla

      2 things to mention here.

      1. I have heard this a hundred times at least. Where girls normally get confused is that women do want to impress other women, but that is all label whoring..the brand name duscussions in other words are what might make another woman jealous, the type of hand bag or size of ring is to make another woman envious.But without a doubt the general idea of looking good has always been to attract men. The problem is Western women believe this shit which leads to my second point.

      2.Women from other places in the world (usually places where they are over all more attractive) dont tend to say these things. Once when going out with a gaggle of Russian and Ukrainian women, one of the American tag alongs stated that she liked going to dance at male gay bars because, she explained that men wouldnt flirt with her, and she didnt need to worry about looking good (how many times have we heard that?) The rest of the import crew looked shocked and one of the more attractive and feminine Eastern girls asked “what exactly is the point of going out if men dont look at you and never flirt with you?” The whole point for these girls was to be desired by men. Of course they arent out in bars or clubs 4x a week like a spoiled DC girl might be but when they are, they look tip top and dont play uber defensive when being approached.

      Anyhow, what I think had happened is women in the West have started to believe the trash that cosmo has been teaching them…that combined with the grrrl power movies, music, and leftist teachings in our schools has all been responsible for the growing masculinity in Western women.

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  2. on March 13, 2015 at 7:46 am Tom H

    Been following this business of make-up making only marginal, if any, difference & I’m not sure it’s the entire truth. I’m certain it’s true for a fresh faced 20 year old. But for a woman who’s 5 minutes from hitting the wall I think it can make a significant difference. Or even a woman who only hit the wall 5 minutes ago. I happen to know a few 30 – 40 year old women who gain a couple of points on the right day.

    A 20 year old doesn’t need it, a 50 year old isn’t helped by it, but there’s a spot somewhere between where carefully & skillfully applied make up can make a world of difference.

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  3. on March 13, 2015 at 7:58 am Sentient

    Tremendous response CH. Hat tip.

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    • on March 13, 2015 at 9:51 am having a bad day

      +1

      @Sentient

      this seems to be a better place to put this reply to your ‘lesbian adventures”…lol…

      just to reaffirm…ALL girls – whether good girls, bad girls, churchians, strippers (especially strippers…lol), feminists, lesbians… – ALL girls have a hind-brain…whose ONLY purpose is to secure the reproduction of herself with the best male genetics possible…

      that means that ALL girls are subject to game…lol…regardless of their fore-brain beliefs…and their hamsters will make it ok (post-genetic contribution =…’wow, that’s never happened before’…lol)…or in the case of the OP, the wearing of makeup as something other than competition for ‘men’…(really alpha genetics…)…this is also why lesbians have ‘bed-death’…their hindbrains KNOW that they won’t be reproducing, so sex becomes less than exciting (= hindbrain stops releasing ‘procreation chemical cocktails’ = orgasms get weaker/less urgent…)

      if a girl is cute/hot/bangable = game her…if a girl has potential cute/hot/bangable friends = game her…sexualize early and often…lol…

      regarding your lesbian encounters (mistaken or otherwise…)…if two girls are out on a ‘date’ and you approach and they say they are lesbians, the subcomms = IOI…they are thinking about sex while talking to you…it is usually a shit test, so just handle as such and escalate…and even if its not, treat it like that anyway…just smirk and plow…lol…

      girl: we’re lesbians on a date.
      you: cool, women’s alternative sexuality is always intriguing…my ex was a lesbian. she was always really good at fixing my car…i never paid for an oil change while we were dating…she gave surprisingly great blow jobs, too…you wouldn’t think a girl that was only into girls before she met me would ‘get it’ but she did…she was always trying to make me happy…

      lesbians and feminists often get to the default position of not ‘competing’ for men bc they are low SMV and the quality of genetics that they are usually offered is not up to their hind-brain expectations…sooo, their hamster simply tells them that they don’t like/want/need men…it needs to resolve that cognitive dissonance…BUT, when they get some alpha attention, their hindbrains perk up and their hamsters are more than ready to make it ok…lol…

      also, on the girls with phones ‘back turns’…you can’t really win on those bc it’s a blatant ‘chase me’ move. if you approach and make her turn around = you chasing = her frame…your best bet is to simply walk ‘thru’ the girls to get to the other side for some reason, ‘ignoring’ them but forcing them to react to you by moving, then engage them on the way back thru their ranks (when they will be facing you as you come back, and after you have walked away from them to do something else more important, like get a napkin off the bar…lol) it works better if you could have easily walked around them…

      good luck!

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      • on March 13, 2015 at 7:26 pm Sentient

        @Habd – good stuff. Thanks for getting back on the back turn situation. I’ll try that as well.

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      • on March 14, 2015 at 9:04 am King A

        just to reaffirm…ALL girls – whether good girls, bad girls, churchians, strippers (especially strippers…lol), feminists, lesbians… – ALL girls have a hind-brain…whose ONLY purpose is to secure the reproduction of herself with the best male genetics possible…

        that means that ALL girls are subject to game…lol…regardless of their fore-brain beliefs…and their hamsters will make it ok (post-genetic contribution =…’wow, that’s never happened before’…lol)…or in the case of the OP, the wearing of makeup as something other than competition for ‘men’…(really alpha genetics…)…this is also why lesbians have ‘bed-death’…their hindbrains KNOW that they won’t be reproducing, so sex becomes less than exciting (= hindbrain stops releasing ‘procreation chemical cocktails’ = orgasms get weaker/less urgent…)

        This sounds like an attempt at a Nicene Profession of Faith or an early draft of the Apostles’ Creed.

        I believe in one Game, the ♂SCIENCE♂ Almighty,
        Maker of the Sexual Market Place,
        And in Alpha Male, its only ideal,
        Who was conceived by the Holy Seduction Forums,
        Born of the Virgins Frustrated,
        Suffered under feminist backlash,
        Was persecuted, driven underground, and went anonymous …

        I believe in one Woman, the unreconstructed slut,
        Imprisoned by hypergamy, driven by evolution,
        With HATE HATE HATRED for the beta …

        I believe in the Dark Triad, the holy Pick Up Blog,
        The communion of PUAs, the possibility of quim,
        The direction of my erection,
        And bangs everlasting.

        Amen. (or “Truth” expressed in affirmation)

        You already have a parody of the Ten Commandments. Why not an official credo for this community’s monomaniacal hermeneutics?

        You would do well to imitate how the early church dealt with various heresies and came to enforce the one faith at the Council of Nicea.

        Matt

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  4. on March 13, 2015 at 7:59 am What A Butthurt Feminist Sounds Like | Neoreactive

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  5. on March 13, 2015 at 8:07 am Days of Broken Arrows

    Worry less about women saying things like “I wear makeup for me!” and “I got implants for me!”

    Worry more that these are the people society says is fine to be our teachers and, increasingly, our leaders. Anyone with an allergy to self-reflection isn’t qualified to lead anyone down any path except one to disaster.

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    • on March 13, 2015 at 9:11 am FuriousFerret

      These people always existed. It’s just that no one really cared. If you were found to be legalistic loony tune back in the day, they just put you in some position where you could be ignored while at the same time keeping you busy such as Nun, Governess, Grade School Teacher, etc. Now we actually care what mental basket cases think and how we should actually implement laws based on their fucked up worldview.

      That’s the main issue. We let SJWs infect the average person on the fence. Most girls aren’t really feminist or have any natural inclination in the way that the wacky ones that influence policy do. They use it for opportunism as smokescreen for natural biological desires that essentially acts in the same way as letting a child eat nothing but chocolate cake as the main staple of their diet.

      That’s what other guys have said to me about SJW feminist types. ‘Just ignore them.’ I do and avoid them when I can but at the national political level they are fucking with my life because they are hideous and have all their energies directed at making the world conform to their warpigness enacted by law.

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      • on March 14, 2015 at 9:46 am King A

        If you were found to be legalistic loony tune back in the day, they just put you in some position where you could be ignored while at the same time keeping you busy such as Nun, Governess, Grade School Teacher, etc. Now we actually care what mental basket cases think and how we should actually implement laws based on their fucked up worldview.

        We don’t care more, they just have (what seem to us born in the analog era) bigger bullhorns to screech into.

        But this is an old approach to new modes of social connectivity. We see something in print and give it outsized authority because up until a decade ago it required massive resources and some degree of difficulty to communicate massively. The authoritative Cronkite broadcast or Speech from the Oval Office now carries the same weight as Glozell Green.

        It takes time for customs and etiquette to catch up. In the meantime, the freaks will have their moment. If you’re smart, you recognize the anomaly for what it is and can already see the signs of its collapse.

        No culture can long survive the undeclared rule of charlatans, women, ideologues, and whoremasters. Either they go or the culture goes. Attitude is key. Given the temporary ascendency of lunatics, we can either assume the culture must decline or that we will expel the alien infiltration. Doom and gloomers assume that just because tranny reprobate Elaglabulus briefly made it to the top means the entire empire must fall. But much more likely is that bourgeois normalcy will close ranks once they start to see real losses and expel the interloping regime with an equal if not greater counter-persecution.

        Joe and Margie Everyman haven’t felt the full effect, but they show every indication of desiring a focused opportunity to fight back: Chic-Fil-A, Hobby Lobby, American Sniper, and most politically, the Tea Party, are all minuscule signs of the midland giant stirring from his slumber — who sleeps deep but once incited become the most ruthless, murderous, warlike force on the planet: William Tecumseh Sherman scorching his own countrymen and smiling heartland pumpkinhead Harry Truman incinerating hundreds of thousands at a time. The unbearable cost of “higher education” that doesn’t teach their children anything but how to hate their own family cannot long persist.

        The antiwhite culture and menstrual crusade against simple men can only go so far before those men respond, as they are beginning to, if you have eyes to see it. The challenge has become how to channel the growing anger and against which of the amorphous, fey targets to organize for greatest effect.

        This country is not made of metrosexual coastal cosmopolitans with the loudest bullhorns and nothing else. The marginal gather at the margins to flame out while yeoman keep the faith. Freaks seizing new technology to “shock” us with their antinature is a leading indicator of cultural depression — think of the videocassette’s boomlet owing to porn, or 1/3 of the internet today swarming with criminals and sleaze. Sober, responsible civilization-builders eventually taking over is, and must be, a lagging indicator.

        The low barrier to entry brought forth an initial deluge of sewage from the Cultural Marxists, but the communication goes both ways. Destroying barriers released the zoo and created a shockwave that we are in the midst of surviving. But it also created our opportunity. Without it, no one here would have known each other.

        Matt

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      • on March 16, 2015 at 12:56 pm Pyjama Wearing Ninja

        We should also ban police from protecting pacifists. After all, if it’s immoral for them to use force, others shouldn’t use force on their behalf either. It’s time to let people die from their own hubris.

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    • on March 13, 2015 at 9:12 am Laguna Beach Fogey

      And our (single) mothers.

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    • on March 13, 2015 at 9:46 am anon

      This is what I have been saying. It’s serious, folks. It is obvious, at this point, that women literally should not be allowed to vote or be judges. Yet they have ALL of the power. They have led us to the destruction of a society that, while not perfect, was the best attempt at providing safety and happiness for the most amount of people. Women need to be controlled by law and customs, and we have failed to do it for 30 years, and the last 10 years have gotten astronomically worse. Women are never happy. They are literally angry about their bodies, having to bleed every month, and modern white ones are just plain against the idea of being a mother. When they are “liberated,” the smartest and best-gened ones will not get married, stay married, or have kids or support a family with the kind of support the father deserves. That’s just a fact, not an opinion. Look at the state of things right now. Tinder is king and marriage and family is dead.

      Women were no different in 1880 or 1930 or 1950. What was different was that the law and social mores controlled them, for the good of children, society, men, and women.

      Oh wow just wow, says any woman today if you mention anything like this, what an evil awful man I am. Men and women are equal!!! When what I’m saying was taken as obvious wisdom for 10,000 years until the late 1960s in the United States.

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    • on March 13, 2015 at 11:12 pm Shauna

      I got Implants for me! I just really want to play with my own fake, plastic tits! The pumps-and-dumps I get are just a side-effect!

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  6. on March 13, 2015 at 8:37 am newlyaloof

    After she gets “comfortable”, she … starts reading Game sites and arguing about the concepts. She thinks she’s arguing with Heartiste, but she’s really arguing with the truth that gnaws inside her. You may not need makeup Des, but you need a mirror, and that’s exactly what Heartiste is.

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  7. on March 13, 2015 at 8:42 am Joe

    Makeup is a nice way of pleasing us. But I prefer sandwiches. I’ve started consciously employing game principles in my pretty good I’m happy with it marriage. My wife then decided, for no apparent reason, to start making lunch every day for my son and me. We’re in a good school district. I’d eat the lunches the kid was getting without complaint. We’re both getting good sandwiches now though. And I love that and she gets a squeeze and a thanks-I-loved-lunch when I get home. She seems to like this arrangement.

    I suppose by feminist logic, she’s making the sandwiches to impress other women with what a good sandwich maker she is.

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  8. on March 13, 2015 at 8:48 am Mark Minter

    DarwinianReactionary describes Etiological Functions:

    “According to the etiological approach, the possession of a function is not a matter of possessing a certain property or set of properties but the possession of a certain history; there must be a history of 1. selection resulting in 2. reproduction in order for an item to be considered to be in the possession of a function. A feature of an item is a reproduction in this sense if the presence of that feature is the result of the workings of natural law such that had a previous item (the ancestor) been different in that respect the other item (the descendent) would differ accordingly. Picture the way the color patterns of a chameleon’s skin match the surface upon which it sits. If the surface had been a different color, the chameleon’s skin would differ accordingly (assuming the chameleon’s pigment arrangers are working as designed). Further examples are the way that the characters on the paper that come out of a photocopier correspond in shape to the characters that are on the originals, or the way that children’s genes are copies of their parents’ genes.

    The selection requirement for the possession of a function is the Darwinian process by which an item or feature is passed on because it has sufficiently often produced some effect that has contributed to the item’s successful reproduction as opposed to items lacking this feature. Those properties that are reproduced because in the past their ancestors have had a certain effect which lead to successful reproduction are called the reproductively established character of the item, and the effect in question is the function of the item. In short, to understand an item’s etiological function is to understand that which its ancestors did that accounts for the item’s reproduction as opposed to items lacking that feature. In the case of biological items such as organs or inherited behaviors such as mating displays, the function is that effect an item’s ancestors had that accounted for the proliferation of the genes responsible for its production. One’s genes are copies of one’s parents’ genes, and the genes that produce hearts have been selected by natural selection because they produce hearts. Hearts themselves contribute to the increased likelihood that an individual’s genes will be passed on due to that fact that they pump blood, not because they make “lub-dub” sounds, or squish when they are stepped on, or freeze when put into liquid nitrogen, or any of a million other things.

    Items other than genes and their biological products may have etiological functions as the theory merely requires that the reproductively established character to have been selected for reproduction because it has correlated with some effect more positively than items lacking this feature. Millikan, for example, claims that the imperative and indicative linguistic moods possess the functions to produce behavior and to produce true beliefs respectively (see LTOBC: ch. 3). Likewise, a learned behavior can have a function if it is reproduced because it has led to a reward; it being the function of the behavior to bring about this result, and a manufactured good such as a screwdriver can have turning screws as its function since it is this ability that has lead to the selection and reproduction of screwdrivers in manufacturing.”

    A screwdriver could just as easily be an ice-chipper or a shiv. But just because a particular use might be different than the Etiological Function of a thing, doesn’t remove the original function of the thing. You could heat a small room with a toaster.

    Makeup has the effect of simulating a woman in ovulation. Eyeliner frames the whites of the eyes, accentuating the pupils, mimicking that pupils dilate during ovulation. Blush and lipstick mimic the flushing of the checks and lips during ovulation. Concealers and base cover blemishes, which are signs of a less functioning immune system and a lack of symmetry.

    Standards of female beauty exactly exist as standards due to their Etiological Function, they enhance the reproductive power of women, hence her sexual capital, hence her social power. Woman may align themselves as to the perceived social power between them, but that power is given to them by men.

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  9. on March 13, 2015 at 9:03 am Kwim The Esquimuax

    Taken at face value, the woman’s statement is true. Competition between women for the top-spot in the pack’s pecking order is brutal beyond belief.

    When she says, ‘I don’t do it for men’, believe her. Women aren’t abstract enough to do anything for “men”. There is always ONE PARTICULAR MAN she is doing it for, and she knows EXACTLY who that is, EXACTLY how many other vixen are already in pursuit of that particular fox, and EXACTLY how she stacks up against them.

    Take it from a man with six daughters.

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    • on March 13, 2015 at 10:07 am Ang Aamer

      ^^^ Pro comment Bro – just pro

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      • on March 13, 2015 at 11:08 am Greg Eliot

        Seconded. And all I gots is but one daughter.

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    • on March 13, 2015 at 10:16 am Via Dolorosa

      6 daughters … On Saturday night there must be a scrum at the bathroom door. Do you have to call the crew chief at the power plant? Go to 110% on the reactor!

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      • on March 13, 2015 at 11:08 am Greg Eliot

        Heh, heh… local brownout caused by hair dryer overload. Film at 11.

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    • on March 13, 2015 at 10:39 am l82dagame

      Why then are young American not reversing the obesity epidemic? Among college aged men, it has indeed reversed. Over the past 3 years, college men have been getting more jacked and involved in fitness, many using juice of course. But far too many college girls have budding FUPAS, jelly rolls, thunder thighs, cankles. Even the ones from a distance that appear to have the right proportions, inevitable have a bit too much subcutaneous fat in the butt/love handle area. It seems like only 3 out of 100 college girls has a .78 WHR, 19 BMI, 19% body fat. Meanwhile it seems like 40% of the men have noticeable muscle tone and vascularity.

      If girls are competing so hard, why aren’t they trying to be in the best shape?

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      • on March 13, 2015 at 11:16 am Anton

        Because makeup is cheap and easy, and controlling one’s food intake is hard and requires persistence and self-discipline….

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      • on March 13, 2015 at 12:45 pm Kwim The Esquimuax

        So simple.

        Most women don’t think they have a chance at what they really want, so they give up and hide behind anti-shape-ist squid ink.

        Also, the men let them get away with it.

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      • on March 13, 2015 at 12:58 pm burke

        “If girls are competing so hard, why aren’t they trying to be in the best shape?”

        i think Kwim is right in that even tubs of guts get attention from men somewhere. solely-sexual attention.

        i think girls today don’t know the difference between the value of a hookup vs the value of a lasting bond. they think getting fucked by a high-value male is some kind of success at landing a man. but of course a guy will put it in a subpar chick if it’s free, there’s no obligation, no consequences of any kind. he’s not staying with her.

        i have had occasion to be shepherding some high school freshmen girls and the way they think is the same as a traditional woman, but there’s no functional framework in our mainstream society right now for them to be what they are and actually avoid becoming a worn-out-bitter-overweight-slut

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      • on March 13, 2015 at 1:15 pm Mel Gibson

        You must consider the generational mindset of these young muscular/fit men. As we’ve read many times here, they’ve been indoctrinated since boyhood about what real masculinity is from media, political correctness, single mothers and overall inexperience with women. These young muscular men incorrectly correlate attraction ques between genders, and thus believe being jacked is how they will get women. We all know that while being muscular/fit is helpful, it is not necessary to attract women. It’s about mindset. That self-confidence.

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      • on March 13, 2015 at 2:14 pm Kwim The Esquimuax

        The generational thing must be real. Demographics must have a lot to do with it.

        I got a 72 year old widowed father. He dates women between 45 and 60 mostly.

        He looks like Chuck Bukowski after a three day bender.

        He tosses them back into the pond if they aren’t trimmed and toned, or if they have what he calls a ‘crazy old broad stare’. My wife gives him all kind of shit for how he treats his dates, but he just says he isn’t looking for true love. “I had what passed for true love with this idiot’s [meaning me] mother… 44 years.

        Now I just want to have a couple of drinks and get laid as long as I can.”

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      • on March 13, 2015 at 7:39 pm blart

        “there’s no functional framework in our mainstream society right now for them to be what they are and actually avoid becoming a worn-out-bitter-overweight-slut”

        sad but true. but if there is a good mom as a role model and you raise them in small towns where things aren’t quite as bad, i suppose you might stand a chance of having a daughter whose not quite as bad off as the rest.

        i for sure see a difference in the kinds of girls who grow up in small town rural areas as opposed to the suburbs and big cities. even in this day and age. they are sheltered in a way and the parents that are raising them tend to have more traditional value systems and a whole community of people who live the same way.

        that means less exposure to all the negative influences (people) that you see everywhere else.

        if i had kids that’s what i would do.

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      • on March 16, 2015 at 4:41 pm Pyjama Wearing Ninja

        @burke, I’m only in my mid 20s and I have to say the bitterness in women my age is more off putting than the incipient wrinkles and a little aged faces. The reason why I don’t think I could date a girl that already finished university is this: all their girly enthusiasm is replaced by bitterness and stress once they start working, get a few more notches under their belt etc.

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    • on March 13, 2015 at 3:05 pm Captain Obvious

      K the E, do you have any familiarity with the concept of selling vintage band instruments on a popular national auction site? Your pseudonym is so very close to that guy’s…

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      • on March 13, 2015 at 4:27 pm Tam the Bam

        Cum all without, cum all within ..

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      • on March 13, 2015 at 6:49 pm Captain Obvious

        If he’s the guy whom I think he might be, then he’s one of the most prolific sellers on that popular national auction site.

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  10. on March 13, 2015 at 9:07 am mindstar

    “The only time women think about attracting a man is when they’re competing against each other for a man who has high social value.”

    At least she acknowledges that women compete for men with high social value. Otherwise she’s deep in denial

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  11. on March 13, 2015 at 9:11 am Laguna Beach Fogey

    “I personally do not believe that women use makeup to attract men.”

    Well, if she personally does not believe it, then it must not be true.

    Because personally.

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    • on March 13, 2015 at 9:59 am James Blonde

      Ah yes… the argument from personal incredulity.

      That train is never late.

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    • on March 13, 2015 at 11:06 am Greg Eliot

      I remember a Scriptural discussion show from years ago, where these nuns were “discussing” Biblical issues with a priest, and the one nun kept going on: “I personally feel that…”

      The priest looked at her as if she were speaking a different language than any on earth and simply said: “Madam, how you FEEL about Scripture is immaterial.”

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      • on March 13, 2015 at 5:32 pm Anonymous

        “.. how you FEEL about Scripture is immaterial.”

        Nice

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      • on March 13, 2015 at 11:16 pm Shauna

        “Immaterial.”

        How to shut down an argument; use a big word your opponent doesn’t know.

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      • on March 14, 2015 at 9:51 am King A

        Priests up, nuns down.

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      • on March 14, 2015 at 3:03 pm Sean Fielding

        How all the priests who have ever lived feel about scripture is only slightly more important.

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      • on March 14, 2015 at 3:06 pm Sean Fielding

        And the scripture itself is not very important anymore either.

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      • on March 15, 2015 at 2:39 am Greg Eliot

        How all the priests who have ever lived feel about scripture is only slightly more important.

        “Feel” ‘s got nuthin’ to do with it… when it comes to a man and his profession… as opposed to women’s Weltanshauung on everything under the sun… which (ahem) was pretty much the point of this subthread.

        And the scripture itself is not very important anymore either.

        And once again: How YOU feel about Scripture, you fairy, is immaterial.

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  12. on March 13, 2015 at 9:13 am superslaviswife

    Women who only dress for themselves often repel other women with their choices of clothing and attract few men even when they’re reasonably attractive and in makeup. Being the socially avoidant person I was, for most of my teens I took delight in wearing unfashionable clothes that other girls wouldn’t see me in, avoiding makeup like the plague and covering my figure as much as possible. Still got approached, even when obese, but my choice of attire killed it back a lot. When women dress “for each other” they are dressing for men. When women dress for themselves only, the tribal cues are all wrong and other women are even less interested/impressed than men are.

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    • on March 13, 2015 at 9:37 am Laguna Beach Fogey

      You see this occasionally in women who’ve simply given up on life: long dirty smocks, Playtex pants, medicinal shoes, and hair cut into the shape of a Nazi helmet (with bangs),

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      • on March 13, 2015 at 9:49 am superslaviswife

        I hadn’t given up on life. Just on other people. Getting thin and dressing for them didn’t work out, so I went to black baggy t-shirts, grunge jeans, mountain boots, socializing online and paying more attention to dogs than people. And, to be fair, it definitely felt like an improvement. More time to myself, more time reading, less awkward social conventions. It took a few years to realize that mainstream preppy people weren’t the only ones available for real life socializing.

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  13. on March 13, 2015 at 9:41 am anon

    The women who wrote that is stupid in the worst kind of way. She’s intelligent enough (for a woman) to think she knows enough “to be dangerous.” She’s the kind of idiot who will go to a 4th tier law school and graduate while not truly understanding anything, at all, about the original Constitution’s intent, private property, justice, contract, the reasons why women should not be allowed to vote, etc. Just a disaster of a woman. She’ll be a good-gened specimen perfect for creating four good-gened babies–the boys might go on to be great scientists or warriors, the girls can grow up like their mother and give the world future good men and pretty breeding women.

    If you suggest to her that a female animal’s primary purpose is to produce offspring, she will stomp her feet and believe with all of her heart that YOU are the one who is wrong and a crazy “misogynist.”

    Not one woman today can even contemplate the very obvious problem we have with lower-gened people having 4 kids while the best white women are having 0.3 kids on average.

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  14. on March 13, 2015 at 10:01 am Putin

    Another good post CH. The whole makeup thing is very interesting to me.

    I still do not understand why women try to impress other women! I see it all the time! Piling on the makeup to go to a women’s function where there will be only women!

    I hate makeup but it is hard to believe they do it just for men.

    The same goes for hair!!!! now that is a topic. Women constantly getting excited about other women short hair. I hate short hair by the way almost more than makeup. It seems the shorter the haircut the more excited the other women get! WTH!

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    • on March 13, 2015 at 10:12 am Laguna Beach Fogey

      Yes, short hair on women is a sure sign of mental instability and impending beard growth.

      I’m sure some women cut their hair in order to compete with other women, to see who looks the cutest in shirt hair, Others do it because they’re lazy bitches.

      Many women cut their hair short (thus lowering their SMV) because they’ve been hoodwinked into doing it by other women who want to eliminate competitors in the SMP.

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      • on March 13, 2015 at 10:29 am Days of Broken Arrows

        I actually knew some parents who insisted their high school daughter keep her (curly Jewish) hair buzz-cut short. Wasn’t too flattering a look. This is an area that needs to be explored: dominating, jealous mothers who purposely wreck their daughter’s SMV.

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      • on March 13, 2015 at 5:05 pm Captain Obvious

        > “insisted their high school daughter keep her (curly Jewish) hair buzz-cut short”

        Maybe they didn’t want her f*cking all those charming devil athletic Alpha shegetz boyz on the football team? Poor girl.

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      • on March 13, 2015 at 5:34 pm Putin

        “short hair on women is a sure sign of mental instability”

        Classic, I always felt the shorter the hair the more mentally unstable for women. lol

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      • on March 14, 2015 at 9:36 am The Spirit Within

        My sister has always kept her hair moderately short, and she’s the most mentally stable, down-to-earth, no-bullshit female I know. Loyal to her longterm bf (common-law husband) to a fault. I always tease her that she’s an honorary man.

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      • on March 16, 2015 at 4:47 pm Pyjama Wearing Ninja

        I talk to this Swedish girl online that cut her amazing long and blonde hair to slightly shorter than shoulder width. I felt like something broke inside me when she got on cam and I saw what she has done. It’s good I didn’t have my cam on or I would have literally been shocked at how someone can so easily sabotage themselves. What’s really sad is that by the time her hair will be as long again, she will already be past her nubile prime.

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    • on March 13, 2015 at 11:42 am itsme

      Piling on the makeup to go to a women’s function where there will be only women!

      just because there are only women there, doesn’t mean only women will see them.

      or have you not heard of phones and social media…

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      • on March 13, 2015 at 12:44 pm Amy

        It doesn’t matter, truly. I’ll dress up and put on makeup for a women-only event. We care about what other women think of us MUCH more than men care about what other men think of them.

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    • on March 13, 2015 at 12:39 pm Amy

      Women who dress for other women dress a little differently than women who dress for men. If you’re dressing for other women, you’re focusing on fashion and status markers (expensive sunglasses, purse). Men don’t care about those things. If you’re dressing for men you just stick to the feminine basics- skirt, high heels, fitted clothes.

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    • on March 13, 2015 at 1:38 pm Lex

      maybe it is because in the back of their head they know men don’t like it. one less girl to compete with.

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    • on March 13, 2015 at 11:18 pm Shauna

      Question: what counts as short on a woman? A pixie cut is obvious, but is a chin-length bob too short?

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      • on March 14, 2015 at 9:04 am Putin

        Yes

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      • on March 16, 2015 at 4:50 pm Pyjama Wearing Ninja

        To me anything shorter than shoulders is off putting and slightly longer than the bra strap is hot, especially if the hair is shiny and silky. Fun to wrap it around your fist or caress it and just to look at it.

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      • on March 23, 2015 at 9:15 am Shauna

        Ninja–Lucky for me then~

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  15. on March 13, 2015 at 10:02 am Stationarity

    Billions spent on makeup each year to impress other women….guffaw indeed.

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    • on March 13, 2015 at 10:21 am Via Dolorosa

      Victorias Secret in every Shopping Mall .. But they’re not doing that for men either – I suppose.

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  16. on March 13, 2015 at 10:06 am Meet Me

    It reminds me, in a roundabout way, of the thought I had about women giving their thoughts on “What is sexy”, ie what happens all the time when women want to try to own that idea (usually to create excuses for themselves and others, like plus size). What is sexy is determined by men (not gay obviously), and possibly not particularly, but through trial and error. That is, if a dude wants to bang you, or you can attract him with characteristics of beauty xyz, that xyz is “sexy.” Nothing else is, no matter what anyone says (again follow what men and women do, not say). Very basic idea, totally red pill though, as I’ve been astounded by the objections of something so obvious.

    To be fair, if someone knows that the female in question looks better than before (but probably won’t attract any quality of a man) they should just say that — “You look better” or “Great (implicitly “for you”) … but not “sexy” which I find is a high standard, that is, what most men would want to bang.

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  17. on March 13, 2015 at 10:07 am Putin

    When women dress for other women I call it clown dressing. I tell my wife to not go down the clown road. Same thing with hair, when women start cutting their hair for other women it gets nasty!

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    • on March 13, 2015 at 10:27 am Via Dolorosa

      They shave their pubes for other women too – I suppose.

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  18. on March 13, 2015 at 10:24 am Nataliya Kochergova

    Well, you can’t fault people for not knowing the ultimate (evolutionary) purpose behind many of their tendencies 🙂

    As for feminists, I’ve found they sometimes find makeup oppressive, and other times try to reclaim it like the word “slut”. There tends to be debate about that kind of stuff. Like there is debate whether it’s feminist to show your naked imperfect body to the camera, or it’s just giving the male gaze what it wants. Will it hurt the patriarchy more if you wear makeup or if you don’t? Needless to say, I’ve found “red pill truth” must simpler in this area. Things are as they are, and what you do about it depends on what you want to achieve. There is no cosmic battle between good and evil happening on your face.

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    • on March 13, 2015 at 4:15 pm Kate Minter

      Maybe a cosmetic battle 😉

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    • on March 16, 2015 at 4:54 pm Pyjama Wearing Ninja

      “Well, you can’t fault people for not knowing the ultimate (evolutionary) purpose behind many of their tendencies”
      I thought ignorance still is a flaw. Or stupidity.

      The reason why feminists vacillate so much is because the whole movement has no intellectual underpinnings and it’s just based on feels. What I feel today won’t be what I feel tomorrow.

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      • on March 16, 2015 at 7:36 pm Nataliya Kochergova

        Not knowing something isn’t a character flaw.

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  19. on March 13, 2015 at 10:24 am chi-town

    Fundamental concepts such as “drives” befuddle and confound them. Not all that long ago in a debate I had the pleasure lampooning gogrrlism in a similar context. The claim was people that have sex do not necessarily want children. Using their reproductive organs ya don’t say? They seem to think that nature would actually trust the human brain with fundamental necessitates. Au contraire. Drives like hunger and thirst are far better mechanisms. If we panned on when when to take a dump over when nature calls, bowel and bladder ruptures would be routine. But then they never did appreciate real feedback loops given their love of centralized planning. They plan while their hand is sizzling on the grill.

    Which means is not only do they try to commit everything to their conscious minds and awareness, they do so as unaware idiots.

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    • on March 16, 2015 at 4:56 pm Pyjama Wearing Ninja

      I don’t know why this is. I think NAP libertarians sometimes act in the same way: they simply assume everything is down to reason and with enough knowledge, we will all get along. But sometimes, people simply don’t want to control their urge to bash someone’s else teeth in.

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  20. on March 13, 2015 at 10:24 am Arbiter

    Well, this is a first. I didn’t think there were women who refused to acknowledge why women dress up. Even feminists know why, that it is for men, which is why they oppose it.

    “They want to look better, more attractive, and get the attention of the women they’re competing against.”

    Yes, and WHY do the other women value attraction? WHY does attraction matter? Because it has a function. The function is to get men. Otherwise there would be no point in increasing attraction.

    This is the same mentality as people who don’t understand how prices are set. A loaf of bread costs what a loaf of bread costs, right? It has a certain value because it has a certain value, right? As if it is a law of the universe. They can’t understand that it depends on what people want. This is why they are uncomprehending of fluctuating prices (other than as a result of increasing production efficiency – though they don’t read about such things), and think it must all be a trick by “the rich” when prices go up.

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    • on March 13, 2015 at 2:35 pm Arbiter

      Addition: it is also the same thing as people who don’t understand how currencies fluctuate. A dollar is a dollar, right? They have known how much it is wort ever since they were kids, and haven’t learned anything more since then. That a currency only gets its value from people’s demand for it is too hard to understand. So when currencies fluctuate it must be the evil capitalists who are doing their tricks again.

      The only absolute value is Life, without which no other values can exist. All things have value only through people’s demand for them, which comes from their instinct to survive as an individual or as a group. Goods, currencies, prettiness have value only because of people’s fluctuating desire for them – they cannot have value in themselves.

      Or to put it another way: if there was a group of women alone on an island, how long would they bother to wear makeup? “Compete with each other”, indeed. The competition loses all meaning when it cannot win any men. It’s like being a great fisherman in a country with no fish.

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      • on March 13, 2015 at 2:44 pm Arbiter

        While this opinion about “makeup only for our own sake” was new to me, women’s ability to deny that night clubs are about sex is nothing new. They pretend that “It’s about going out and having fun” – but men visit the club because there are women there. Yes, men can have fun without scoring, or tell themselves they are having fun. But the whole point is to go where the women are in the hope of catching them. (And the man who can’t hope to score will go anyway to keep his status in the group, in the hope of getting a chance with a girl in the future.)

        This is so obvious that it is an underlying assumption for men that doesn’t need to be stated. It is shown in comments like, “Lots of hot babes in that place,” and, “No use staying, only skanks left.”

        Some women admit this. The rest ignore it and quickly start to believe their own ignorance – because otherwise they have to admit that they are stringing guys along. Women love the male attention because they have always survived through men. The attention is like a drug to them. That’s why they go out. Their interaction with other women? Only to elevate themselves in the group so they can increase their chances with the men. (If you are away from the group all sorts of creepy men might approach. You want to be with the in-crowd to get the male leaders.)

        Oh, sure, there’s camaraderie. Just like there is camaraderie among the salesmen at work. But the whole point with going to work is to sell, isn’t it?

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      • on March 13, 2015 at 3:53 pm Amy

        Sure, but we also go to gay clubs to dance. If you really enjoy dancing (many girls don’t) you know it’s not ALWAYS about attracting heterosexual men. Often, but not always.

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      • on March 13, 2015 at 5:36 pm Anonymous

        Arbiter, when is gold going to make a serious move up?

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      • on March 16, 2015 at 5:04 pm Pyjama Wearing Ninja

        I used to go to clubs to have fun because I enjoyed the music and I had good drugs. I do get that most men use clubs only as a means to get pussy though, which is why I went to fairly niche clubs(the benefits being that I befriended the regulars so I had social proof whenever I took a girl from a party in a club to the club I went to for after parties).

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    • on March 16, 2015 at 4:58 pm Pyjama Wearing Ninja

      I’ve heard this canard before and not from feminists, so I think it’s something innate in girls to deny they crave male attention. Sort of like most men would try to hide their hardon in the middle of a club.

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  21. on March 13, 2015 at 10:47 am Werwolf

    Most western girls will doll themselves up for their boss and their weekend binge drinking, but their chumps at home will get no more effort than it takes to roll out of bed and pull on a bathrobe and sweatpants.

    If girls used makeup purely for themselves and their ego then we would not see these patterns in their behaviour. This behaviour indicates that it is not something they do for themselves but something in the environment to which they are reacting. They make more effort to be attractive when they know there is a chance they will be in the company of high status men.

    The real world effects of makeup may be marginal, but the intention behind it speaks volumes about girls’ subconscious desires.

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    • on March 13, 2015 at 11:23 am blart

      well said

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  22. on March 13, 2015 at 11:00 am JCclimber

    the competition is for resources. Historically, those resources came from alpha men who had the power and prestige to bestow upon their favored women.
    I have a flock of hens (home backyard organic chicken eggs are by far the healthiest and best tasting). No rooster.

    There is still a vicious pecking order in that flock. That pecking order determines who gets the best food, and the best roost, and the best nesting box to lay the eggs in. The lowest hen on the pecking order hasn’t even laid an egg in 8 months (she’s still young and healthy). That shows a little bit how important establishing yourself on the pecking order is for fertility.

    Ironically, at one point she was our most beautiful hen (of 8 varieties). But her personality was subservient and beta and despite being bigger and older than about 1/2 the other hens, she found herself at the bottom. She’s the only one who lays white eggs so we know she isn’t laying.

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    • on March 13, 2015 at 2:50 pm Arbiter

      the competition is for resources. Historically, those resources came from alpha men who had the power and prestige to bestow upon their favored women.

      Yep. I say pretty much the same thing in my proselytizing upthread.

      Interesting about the hens. Poor lowest hen in the pecking order. Can’t you give her a separate coop so she can get food and peace? Or eat her? But if you would remove her, would the other hens choose someone else to deprive of food, just to have someone?

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      • on March 15, 2015 at 8:56 am JCclimber

        We have a large backyard. There’s plenty of space for her to escape persecution for the day. For example, we sat my parent’s hen for a couple weeks. She was subjected to the unrelenting pecking order for 6 days, she would spend most of the day hiding on our roof, only coming down to eat and drink and lay eggs. By day 7, she had reintegrated into the flock. Before we gave that hen to my parents, she was near the top of the pecking order.

        But now after being a way for a few months, she was a “stranger” and therefore had to re-establish herself. Which she did, because her personality wasn’t to be a sad obese lesbian who cuts her hair short and hangs out in emo poetry slams.

        The current lowest pecking order chicken has no self-confidence, won’t assert herself, and is a constant stress case. Like a sad beta male.

        The meanest chicken will probably soon suffer the same fate as the 19 raccoons who’ve come snooping around our backyard in the last couple years. And yes, it’s legal to kill the vicious little bastards in your own yard.

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    • on March 13, 2015 at 4:44 pm Tam the Bam

      “Ironically, at one point she was our most beautiful hen (of 8 varieties). But her personality was subservient and beta and despite being bigger and older than about 1/2 the other hens, she found herself at the bottom.”
      So I’d be inclined to insert myself as deus ex, and whomp a few of those old boilers with a hatchet.
      I’ve had the same problem with cavies/guineapigs (all various forms of Rescue, from truly grotesque and traumatizing backgrounds). Not a fault of the individual animals, who really developed their characters once they realized the pressure was off (sown timothy-grass open ranges under cover). Just a relic of their relative weakness when introduced to the mob.

      Fuckit. If you’re going to keep animals, you have to do Right by them. Or eat them all up. Yum yum.

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    • on March 13, 2015 at 5:53 pm James Blonde

      She’s the only one who lays white eggs so we know she isn’t laying.
      ——————————————————————————————-

      Do chickins always lay the same color eggs?

      Or does egg color depend on the cock?

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    • on March 13, 2015 at 6:09 pm Broadsman

      Excellent observations! We urban types miss these real world examples from the Animal Kingdom.
      In big coops. farmers have to assume non-trivial losses of hens who are on the bottom of the social heap and literally get pecked to death.

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      • on March 13, 2015 at 10:07 pm Anonymous

        no they don’t…that’s why hens get caged and debeaked…

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  23. on March 13, 2015 at 11:02 am Puitn

    My mom used to constantly try and push my wife into the clown zone(poofy, ugly clothes, makeup and short hair. It was a big point of contention. I remember when my wife cut her hair somewhat short and my mom gushed for weeks.
    I remember watching women gushing over each other for who had the most clown like clothes, short hair, etc…I noticed that whenever a 8+ came into the room wearing a form fitting sweatsuit or old tight jeans with long hair and no makeup that the dynamics changed immediately.
    I remember when my wife was a brides maid at my sister wedding. Still have a photograph of them ALL lined up next to each other. Everyone had a frizzy short haircut and my wife stuck out like a sore thumb. I feel that down the road all the bridesmaids burned that picture. We still have it and am tempted to post it because it is such a classic.

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  24. on March 13, 2015 at 11:20 am Matthew Chiglinsky

    It’s nice to hear a dose of truth for once. It’s amazing how delusional women are about sexual attraction (especially feminists).

    This is more support for the theory that all women are basically the descendents of rape victims and as a result have Stockholm Syndrome towards men. A woman is confused about whether she wants sex or not because she is confused about whether her man is ultimately her attacker or her protector. Of course, in reality, he is both.

    “God” and “Satan” are both rapists. The only difference is that “God” will buy you dinner first and breakfast the next day and be a little gentler about it. (“Satan” steals the p____.) I suppose women should be thankful to have the lesser evil.

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    • on March 13, 2015 at 2:57 pm Arbiter

      This is more support for the theory that all women are basically the descendents of rape victims and as a result have Stockholm Syndrome towards men. A woman is confused about whether she wants sex or not because she is confused about whether her man is ultimately her attacker or her protector. Of course, in reality, he is both.

      No. It is support for the theory that women need men to survive.

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      • on March 16, 2015 at 5:11 pm Pyjama Wearing Ninja

        Anybody who has done some light BDSM with girls and played with their minds can kind of intimate that Chiglinsky is up to something, but I think he’s exaggerating. Women are simply designed to bond with men who treat them bad because exchanging sex for surviving is what the women of defeated men did. But I don’t think this makes women confused whether she wants sex – I’ve never known such a woman.

        This attacker-protector dichotomy is the male equivalent of the Madonna and the whore and I don’t know about other men, but I do sometimes feel both aggression towards and being protective of a girl.

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    • on March 14, 2015 at 2:27 am Carlos Danger

      Do you feel raped Matthew?

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      • on March 14, 2015 at 10:03 am driveallnight

        Yup. Check the boxscore, whorefinder got an assist on the play.

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    • on March 14, 2015 at 10:09 am King A

      This is more support for the theory that all women are basically the descendents of rape victims and as a result have Stockholm Syndrome towards men.

      More evidence for how the Church of Darwin occludes truth.

      You could have just said women recognize by their own immediate experience that they are smaller and weaker than men and learn as a sex how to navigate according to instinctive purpose. Instead you import pseudoscientific notions like “descendents of rape victims” and “Stockholm Sydrome” so that you can make up a theory off the top of your head.

      That’s the problem with the bourgeois fapping over natural science journals. It’s an invitation to make stuff up whole-cloth and clumsily reverse engineer from the conclusions of some conspiracy-spinning dilettante. In this case, the conclusion is the dumb and pointless assertion that All Society is a Sublimation of Rape. The opposite of “peer review” that advances our understanding nowhere.

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  25. on March 13, 2015 at 11:26 am Starets

    Off Topic.

    Are there many regular readers of ‘The Occidental Observer’ and Dr. Kevin MacDonald here?

    ‘The Occidental Observer’ appears to be under cyber-attack. For much of the past week the website has been down or very slow. Dr. MacDonald put up a post noting that.

    It would appear that the real-talk about YKW has drawn a response. There was a recent, excellent 3 part series of posts about YKW and predatory money lending. I wonder if one of the shylocks mentioned by name in the articles is funding an attack?

    I’m surprised ‘The Occidental Observer’ hasn’t been taken down before now, what with the nature of the subject matter and the consistently accurate and highly critical analysis.

    I hope the site survives. All these various red-pill sites function as our samizdat in todays Neo-Weimar West. We have to be woken up to just how broken todays society is before we can hope to fix it.

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  26. on March 13, 2015 at 11:33 am YaReally

    @Sentient
    “I backed off of negs because on 6/7’s I kept running into “nice” girls you just got hurt by them, not in a bitchy way but in a “i like him and he’s making fun of me” way. But this caused me to fail to build attraction on the 7/8 range… so still having trouble calibrating the neg. Any resources etc appreciated here.”

    RSD Julien’s PIMP product. Specifically the Outer Game sections, very specifically the Vibe section of it. Very specifically the stuff on qualifying a girl and combining it into stacking devalidation (halfway thru the first vid)…complicated subject until you hear it explained, but it’s basically a turbo-charged version of negging that goes way beyond what Mystery was doing. A buddy and I have been experimenting with it and the reactions we’ve been getting are ridiculous. I know everyone thinks I’m an RSD shill lol, but I only recommend legit useful shit (and Tyler doesn’t care if people pirate Foundations, Blueprint, etc.) and PIMP is legit useful. If you aren’t rolling in $ you won’t have a problem finding it through “other” means.

    Try to ignore the crazy “I’ve just snorted a line of coke” mannerisms he has going on, listen to what he’s saying and watch the infield stuff he shows to demonstrate it and look where he’s using it and how they react. He does it to an extreme level for the sake of demonstrating how far you can take it, but toning it down to a less harsh level while keeping the structure he uses is still insane powerful. He’s taken a bunch of PUA concepts that everyone knows already work and combined them then streamlined the result…first time I’ve been legitimately impressed by new information in a few years of checking out pickup products that just rehash old knowledge.

    I’ll try to explain it better at some point and after I’ve played with it some more myself, but Julien’s explanation is flawless and in-depth. The easiest way to describe it is that he devalidates the girl, then changes conversation threads before giving her a chance to qualify herself, and then he stacks that multiple times like Mystery’s multiple threading conversation technique and gets her extremely invested in trying to qualify herself to you and then after a while smoothly allows her to “win him over”, creating HUGE investment on her part which triggers a chain reaction back to her hamster that says “if I’m chasing him this hard he must be high value”. It’s brilliantly devious.

    Would send anyone to this resource instead of traditional “negging” resources, this is like Neg 2.0 evolved/enhanced as far as I’m concerned.

    And for anyone who missed it, here’s a bunch of vids to watch with my comment finally out of mod:

    https://heartiste.wordpress.com/2015/03/10/how-the-urban-man-can-be-more-masculine/#comment-654207

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  27. on March 13, 2015 at 11:35 am What A Butthurt Feminist Sounds Like | Reaction Times

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  28. on March 13, 2015 at 11:36 am zodak

    i wear these heels for me, not because they make my ass more pronounced for men. i wear this lipstick for me, not because they make my lips look flush with blood. i wear this scoop neck shirt for me, not because it shows off my cleavage.

    ugh, i can’t keep going. they should all get medals for their mental gymnastics.

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    • on March 14, 2015 at 2:31 am Carlos Danger

      There’s a Marilyn Manson song kind of like that. It’s one of his better ones.

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  29. on March 13, 2015 at 11:40 am YaReally

    Yo CH what triggers comments getting caught in mod?

    Is it including multiple links or links to specific sites or passing a certain length or using certain keywords or something? Like half my comments are spending forever in mod the last couple weeks. Would be cool to know what the spam filter is catching so the regulars know how to avoid getting stuck behind it.

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    • on March 13, 2015 at 11:45 am newlyaloof

      my sh!ts in mod too. Would also like to know.

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    • on March 13, 2015 at 11:47 am Tilikum

      seems like symbols and anything that resembles an email addy. multiple links posted one after the other will do it too.

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      • on March 13, 2015 at 4:42 pm YaReally

        “seems like symbols and anything that resembles an email addy”

        I would lol hard if it was just the at symbol we use to direct a comment to someone that was actually causing it all this time lol

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      • on March 13, 2015 at 5:02 pm Captain Obvious

        “Your comment is awaiting moderation.” LOL’ed.

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    • on March 13, 2015 at 12:00 pm Sentient

      Yeah it’s all over the map. Really kills dialogue when post is overrun by 4 new posts… and you wait 2-3 days for release.

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      • on March 13, 2015 at 5:28 pm Anonymous

        “Really kills dialogue”

        This

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    • on March 13, 2015 at 12:01 pm Sentient

      and there are two holds – one is “awaiting moderation” the other post goes through then you get nothing, just back to the top of the page.

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      • on March 13, 2015 at 12:28 pm Anton

        Yep

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    • on March 13, 2015 at 4:55 pm blart

      i’ve noticed that my posts get through more easily when i’m logged into my work network and the ones i post from home hardly ever go through immediately.

      as Sentient said, it definitely kills the flow of the dialogue

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      • on March 13, 2015 at 5:58 pm James Blonde

        just change your name to arbiter and you can stink up every thread with 30 posts

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      • on March 14, 2015 at 1:06 am Culum Struan

        It’s very random. I’ve had really long posts go through without mod and much shorter ones get caught up.

        I very rarely include links so it can’t be that. I do use the AT symbol quite often but plenty of posts without it also get caught.

        Doesn’t seem to make a difference if I’m logged in to comment or not (so I don’t bother usually)

        I just try and make it a habit to check the comments of the last 4-5 days of posts but don’t usually go back before then. If it’s longer than that, worth leaving a short reminder message on a new post I think (but yeah – kills conversation – you shouldn’t need to have workarounds like that)

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    • on March 14, 2015 at 2:56 am driveallnight

      Y’all know how hard it is to do driveby under these circumstances?

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    • on March 14, 2015 at 10:21 am King A

      You know where you won’t have this trouble, Miss Landers? At your own URL address.

      If CH cared much about having a forum, he would have addressed this issue long, long ago. It’s just not a priority. (There are also rumors of books and site redesigns that never come to fruition but encourage people to keep the faith and donate.)

      Which is a shame. He could have had his many fans doing the work of moderation for him and be casually editing a high-quality gang blog rather than struggling to provide daily content. One can fight the internet’s exponentiality or one can use it to great advantage.

      But a radical redesign smelled too much like “monetizing” his “hobby,” and he never devoted resources to it. Free minds and free markets win. Those who stand athwart the force of capitalization yelling Stop become the brick in someone else’s edifice.

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    • on March 14, 2015 at 6:32 pm Murray Street

      @YaReally

      Do you give out your email? I’d love to run some things by you. Otherwise I have to randomly post around hoping you and the other pros see it

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    • on March 16, 2015 at 7:37 am Truman

      It’s triggered by including too many “lol”s. You know how CH feels about masculine vs feminine writing styles.

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  30. on March 13, 2015 at 11:44 am Ronin

    They say cats do such crazy shit because they have no PFC or judgment-center to their brain. They just get an idea and go do it.

    I’m starting to think, despite how hyper-connected we hear a woman’s brain is, there has got to be a complete and total lack of connection between their Lizard-Brain and verbal-processing-center.

    -Or at least between the VPU / vagina-processing-unit, & the speech-center / anterior-cingulate-nonsense-gyrus.

    lulz

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  31. on March 13, 2015 at 11:46 am Tilikum

    Can I add something minor here: “according to the precepts of an ancient genetic algorithm that subconsciously compels them to attract the highest quality men possible (IN THE MOMENT).” They have the attention spans of gnats.

    They are never looking for the absolute best man ever, just the best man in front of them in the moment. Soooooo…..don’t have better looking friends or mean mug like crazy if you do. (if some cricket gets ya chirping)

    Be the best choice she can make in that moment.

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    • on March 13, 2015 at 3:01 pm Arbiter

      Tilikum can’t write anything that isn’t just a release of his pent-up hatred of women. “THEY EVIL! THEY SLUTS! THEY BITCHES!!!” It’s fun to see. The poor, fat old loner pretending that he has something to contribute, when it’s just an omega’s mental masturbation. All he writes here is hatred of women and worship of Jews – because he sees on television that you need to worship Jews, and that’s his whole world. Now go drink some more beer and sit in front of your precious teevee, fatty.

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      • on March 13, 2015 at 7:48 pm dirkdiggly

        come on now, fellas! Same team! Dust off and get back out there, let’s put our individual differences aside and get the balls in the end zone…Who’s with me?

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      • on March 13, 2015 at 9:02 pm Tilikum

        Dude, you gotta stop letting me live in your head rent free!

        VoxDay has a cool Gamma series up right now that I swear is about you.

        I’d head over, take off your jew/dems dat done you wrong/nigger hatin’ hat for like 10 min and self reflect and heal your fractured id.

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      • on March 14, 2015 at 3:09 am driveallnight

        If he has un-heat fucked bottled beer that he’ll ship here to Quintana Roo, I’ll pay the goddamn freight.

        Absolute fuckstory. Next step, I lobby for a UN resolution.

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      • on March 14, 2015 at 10:38 am King A

        Sounds like you’re being the bitch by responding what you presume is Tilikum’s character rather than countering what he actually said. Which is what women do. They personalize disagreements.

        If ad hominem weren’t such a corrupted term hijacked by defensive pussies, it would be applicable literally here. It means “to the man.” You have some ongoing personal beef with this fellow which you criticize, e.g., only deep insiders have any idea what you mean about his “need to worship Jews,” as it is not at all in evidence from Tilikum’s comment. How about instead you proceed along ad rem, or, addressing his point.

        I interject here because almost all forums are hobbled by this obsession over a man’s ethos or character to the exclusion of his logos or argument as actually presented. Demonizing a speaker is easier to do than making a counterargument, since the former only requires imagination, assertion, and usually dishonesty.

        It’s all of a piece with the general feminization of the culture. This bitchifying, backbiting, non-sportive gossip is the equivalent of a gaggle of women sniping and snipping at each other. But we are supposed to be against that corruption here.

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      • on March 14, 2015 at 1:43 pm Tilikum

        stop letting me live in your head rent free and build something.

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      • on March 14, 2015 at 2:49 pm Arbiter

        Awww, little Tilikum is hurt again. LOL He never has anything to say, just his hatred of women and RAAACISTS.

        “living in your head” LOL Tilikum has been reading up on how to deal with evil bullies! “Use this line, that will show him! Hilarious.

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    • on March 14, 2015 at 11:01 am King A

      “… compels them to attract the highest quality men possible (IN THE MOMENT).” They have the attention spans of gnats.

      They are never looking for the absolute best man ever, just the best man in front of them in the moment. Soooooo…..don’t have better looking friends or mean mug like crazy if you do.

      You can look at their attention deficiency as a drawback or an advantage. If all that matters is their immediate purview, you can use that far better than it is used against you — keeping them perpetually at the point of anticipation, mystery, dread.

      But again, the key is attitude. You isolate one of a woman’s (many, many) deficiencies and decide that defensiveness (keep her away from “better looking friends”) is the best approach rather than going on the offensive, i.e., becoming such a looming presence in her mind that the very thought of transgression nauseates her. If being her One Man against the big scary promiscuous culture of the modern sexual market sounds impossible to you, well then there’s the problem. Not only is it possible, it is passively desired by women who are otherwise slave to their limitless emotion (see Rousseau, Emile).

      Unfortunately, this community discounts the key ingredient of alcohol in the PUA recipe. Not that it is the decisive factor, but there is so little attribution of a player’s success to the social lubrication of Demon Gin. Keeping a woman sober is at least half way to keeping her faithful — booze gives them (and us) a courage monumentally difficult to attain sober, even as it destroys their capacity of judgment and the ability to think ahead, all in the pressuring environment of ubiquitous public intoxication. Everybody else is doing it!

      If only the modern woman weren’t actually “looking for the best man ever.” They are, and that’s the problem. They won’t settle and get on with their lives, they are princesses who were taught to regard anything but royal treatment as a personal affront. Fortunately, that tendency is eminently manipulable too, since their deepest selves know they aren’t royal but rather just an easily replaced and aging hole, and they are glad for the man who, despite active resistance every step of the way, cuts through their auto-generated bullshit.

      Matt

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      • on March 14, 2015 at 1:40 pm Tilikum

        while I get the whole paradox of choice argument but IMO and experience females of the species like to think in small concentric circles of time which are growing ever smaller. month, week, day, hour, moment, etc.

        Maybe the smarter ones use logic and time based thinking to over ride their emotions of the moment, but thats rare in my observation. Then again that may have more to do with how they perceive me, hard to say.

        RE: Arbiter. I have always (since a kid) been a lightning rod for crazy and haters. It just…is. All good.

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      • on March 14, 2015 at 2:23 pm King A

        …females of the species like to think in small concentric circles of time which are growing ever smaller. month, week, day, hour, moment, etc.

        Of course they do, when you leave them the opportunity to think rather than performing that accursed task for them.

        “All of [wo]man’s trouble stem from [her] inability to sit quietly in a room alone.” — Pascal

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  32. on March 13, 2015 at 11:53 am Prof. Woland

    There are two basic types of plastic surgery. One type is an attempt to look younger or reconstruct an appearance and the other is to fundamentally alter it. A good looking woman will probably have an ego to match so it is normal for her to put energy and resources into maintaining her status (youth / fertility) for as long as possible. That is healthy unless it is obsessive and is to be understood. Where you have the trouble are women who are unhappy with their looks and want to be somebody else. An extreme case is Michael Jackson who could never look like Dianna Ross no matter how hard he tried. Eek.

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  33. on March 13, 2015 at 11:57 am itsme

    when girls say ‘i dress/makeup/boobjob for myself’, you can sometimes see on their faces that even they don’t really believe the words that just came out of their mouths. it’s like it’s an automatic reply and then you see a quick ‘wtf?’ microexpression.

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    • on March 13, 2015 at 3:02 pm Arbiter

      Though how often have you heard women say that? Most know that it’s for the opposite sex, just like men know that they dress up and go to night clubs for the opposite sex.

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    • on March 14, 2015 at 2:47 am Carlos Danger

      However, as with most things female, there’s built in plausible deniability. There is indeed vicious competition between women and they express it through clothes among other ways but it’s a sub text of the greater game.

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      • on March 14, 2015 at 11:04 am King A

        Best said. “Plausible deniability” should be the title of the original post. That’s the essence of it.

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  34. on March 13, 2015 at 12:07 pm itsme

    alpha of the week:

    http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/bored-pilot-draws-penis-flight-map-tracking-app-article-1.2148182

    lozlzozlozozlzolzzllz

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    • on March 13, 2015 at 1:05 pm burke

      that guy’s great but i’m going to disagree and put forward this guy i found from a link on yours

      http://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/japanese-porn-king-shimiken-begging-reinforcements-article-1.2146395

      he’s doing everything he can. although a plate of feces might disqualify him

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      • on March 13, 2015 at 2:20 pm JCclimber

        now there is a literal shit test for you!

        “you want to be a porn actor? Really? Prove it, we’ve got this hot role for you that someone will pay 500,000 Yen to see…”

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      • on March 13, 2015 at 3:08 pm Arbiter

        “In this industry there are only 70 male porn stars to 10,000 women. The number of male porn stars in Japan is less than that of Bengal tigers,” he wrote. “With 4,000 new films every month, the number of male actors simply isn’t enough.

        Amazing numbers if that is true.

        Shimiken claims he’s bedded more than 7,500 starlets during a nearly two-decade career and now earns as much as $23,573 per week. He owns a small fleet of flashy cars and is a hero to legions in a country that produces more that twice the number of skin flicks as the U.S.

        That’s an industry I would expect Hong Kong to be able to take over a large piece from, but maybe they have laws against that.

        He instead eats a strict, high-protein diet and performs a testosterone-boosting workout for 90 minutes, four days per week. He also pops protein pills and takes zinc, apparently to make his semen whiter.

        The paleo diet to the rescue!

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      • on March 13, 2015 at 5:06 pm Laguna Beach Fogey

        Lift, squat, eat Paleo, take supplements:

        To maintain the strength necessary to make up to six movies a day, Shimiken exercises 90 minutes a day, four days a week, focusing on heavy weight lifting and deep squats, which he says not only help his thrusts but also build up testosterone. He lives off a go-bag filled with glutamine, branched-chain amino acid, zinc (said to make semen whiter), arginine, and vitamin jelly. He dumps the bag’s contents out for inspection, and nowhere in the pile is the pill that fuels the American porn industry: Viagra. “I haven’t had to use it,” he says. “Yet.”

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    • on March 13, 2015 at 5:08 pm Lumpy

      Alpha of the week: Dirt Nasty

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    • on March 14, 2015 at 3:38 am driveallnight

      Gay porn actors are far and away the highest-paid on-screen performers in porn. Don’t know why or what for, but I have this is on good authority from el fuckpuppet.

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  35. on March 13, 2015 at 12:34 pm bo jangles

    Its cultural, when you go to Latin america, girls know exactly the effects their tight skirts have on men and how best to show themselves off. I’ve lost count of the number of pictures of girls posing with their asses sticking out. Then you’d see my gfs little cousins who are like 10 wearing fluorescent miniskirts, and you realize that sexiness and competition are trained early. Poor American girls who when they are lucky enough to be beautiful don’t know what to do with it.

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  36. on March 13, 2015 at 1:13 pm newlyaloof

    It’s Friday, gentlemen!
    Make it happen (nsfw)
    http://www.kindgirls.com/photo/metart/jenni_2992/2594/16/3/

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  37. on March 13, 2015 at 2:02 pm A_wife

    I’m late to this argument, so i may have missed some nuance. But, FWIW, I wear heels and makeup because that is what is required for me to look polished for my job.

    [CH: and why do you think that is? why don’t men need to wear makeup to look “polished”. think hard about my rhetorical challenge.]

    I also get a manicure weekly, my eyebrows waxed every other week, a pedicure monthly and my hair cut and highlighted every 6 weeks. I take a shower and apply deodorant every day and shave my legs and armpits every other day. I wear clean clothes and iron clothing that is wrinkled before I wear it. I dress stylishly but on the modest side for NYC. I maintain my weight, eat healthfully and go to the gym a few times a week to exercise and lift weights.

    Other women (and other moms) can be cruel and may judge you and your children when you’re not “put together”. My husband’s colleagues and friends will likely think less of him if they think his wife is a slob. But ultimately, it’s about showing respect; that I respect and value my place in society, my family and my colleagues at work by adhering to expected grooming standards. It’s simply good manners. I exercise to stay healthy so I can live long enough to raise my children to adulthood.

    I have a loving husband at home; we have a satisfying sex life. Cheating on my husband would not only be breaking my marriage vows but also cheating on the father of my children and by proxy, damaging to my children. I have no intention of ever doing that so I assure you I am not looking to pick up other men in order to procreate with them or even just to play slap and tickle.

    When you guys settle down you want your wife to only sleep with you (of course), but do you want your wife to stop looking attractive? I doubt it.

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  38. on March 13, 2015 at 2:21 pm sturmrugergp100

    I am taking my wife out to dinner this evening. I guarantee she will be dolled up…for me.

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  39. on March 13, 2015 at 3:09 pm Anonymous

    “This is an area that needs to be explored: dominating, jealous mothers who purposely wreck their daughter’s SMV.”

    I second the motion

    oink

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    • on March 14, 2015 at 9:08 am Anonymous

      YES!

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  40. on March 13, 2015 at 4:17 pm Kate Minter

    girlwiththedragontattoo is the perfect example of a fresh-faced beauty.

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  41. on March 13, 2015 at 4:34 pm Desdinova Superstar

    Aww, you’re such a sweetheart to put me in the spotlight!

    The thing you may have missed is that both you and I are on the same side of the coin. We’re both male. We’re both against feminism. We both agree that society has been ruined by it. For the most part, I enjoy your posts. I just happen to have a different viewpoint than you do on a woman’s primary incentive for making themselves look pretty, and I have no problem backing it up. I do a lot of thinking outside the box and outside the general manosphere. I’m always looking to learn something new about women, and have no fear of putting my opinions and ideas out for people to think about and compare it to the things they see going on in real life.

    Shortly after a man and woman enter a relationship, she will begin to put less effort into her looks when she’s around him. However, if she goes out with her girlfriends, she will get herself completely dolled up. Is this because she’s looking for a new man? Not necessarily. Then why is she putting on makeup and dressing nice to go out with her girlfriends?

    Women are competitive. They will compete against each other with their appearance. They get an emotional charge out of it. They will look at, judge, and harshly criticize other women based on every single part of their body, including the things that are covering it. Recently I was doing a job in a client’s home, and they were watching a daytime talk show consisted of an all-woman panel discussing and criticizing the female celebrities’ wardrobes at the Grammys. Why were they not discussing the male celebrities? The answer is: They didn’t give a damn about the male celebrities. They got more of an emotional charge out of what the women looked like, and nit-picked away at their wardrobes. So why wouldn’t this apply to real life situations?

    CH, next time you’re out on a date with a woman, ask her what she thinks about another attractive women in your vicinity. I guarantee that she’s already evaluated the other woman, and will have a quick answer for you on how “slutty” or “ugly” she is.

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    • on March 14, 2015 at 7:43 am been busy babe boo

      You really don’t get it huh

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    • on March 14, 2015 at 11:24 am King A

      Women absolutely get dolled up for themselves. Looking good is their primary purpose in life as women or as exemplars of the Eternal Feminine. They look good, they feel good.

      Yes, CH takes the idea of The Sexual Impulse is The Engine of the Universe to cartoon levels of absurdity. It’s a misinterpretation of Dante’s famous line, “The love which moves the sun and other stars,” and then accelerating that misinterpretation past the breaking point. Then he throws Pseudodarwin into the mix and the whole theory becomes a stew for True Believers only — but convenient to his proximate purposes, which is countering an entirely different agenda of anti-nature, feminism, while pedestalizing base adolescent desires.

      Now, do women use makeup primarily to attract men, or is it a secondary cause? That kind of nuance cannot be teased out in this forum.

      You were a target of convenience. Subtleties have no place here. Write in bold crayons or GTFO.

      Matt

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    • on March 14, 2015 at 2:52 pm Shauna

      You’re such a sweetheart for the new material!

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    • on March 16, 2015 at 5:18 pm Pyjama Wearing Ninja

      The reason why women become slackers once in a relationship is because their boyfriends are beta and they feel secure in their affections. Oddly enough, this is the same reason why men stop seducing their women and why their women lose interest in them(becoming beta).

      And they doll up when they go out with their female friends because that’s when their boyfriends aren’t around and maybe someone better than their boyfriends will come along. It’s pretty much that simple and it’s also why this:

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  42. on March 13, 2015 at 4:55 pm Anonymous

    “Booth babes, sexy cosplayers might be banned from events because feminists hate beauty”

    Yeah, let’s stop using sex to sell stuff. That’ll work great when exhibitors discover their traffic has hit the toboggan slide (even the SJW cunts won’t show up, because there’s nothing to be outraged at any more) and they all jump ship for other conferences that aren’t run by cowards.

    As Aesop said, maybe you can’t please everyone, but you will NEVER please SJW cunts, so it’s best not to hand them Czechoslovakia and the Sudetenland.

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    • on March 13, 2015 at 5:04 pm Anonymous

      I forgot, plenty of cosplayers are just fangirls who admire some female character or other (Lara Croft, Female Shepard, etc). Better ban them too. Establish a 50-foot no-cosplaying perimeter around the building so they don’t manage to oppress any uggos.

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    • on March 16, 2015 at 5:19 pm Pyjama Wearing Ninja

      I’m laughing hysterically at your summation. rofl. Nice non-sequitur.

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  43. on March 13, 2015 at 5:02 pm Anonymous

    http://www.reaxxion.com/6198/how-patreon-is-getting-gamed-by-privileged-white-women

    LOL, look at that picture. Chumps give her over $4000/month on Patreon. White males are apparently jumping into the scam as well, just pretend you’re a victimized girl and presto, instant income.

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    • on March 16, 2015 at 5:27 pm Pyjama Wearing Ninja

      http://twitch.tv/goodgirlmiwa
      Check her top donations. That $5k+ donation, Christ! Why can’t I be a girl so that I can play video games for a living without having any talent at it?

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      • on March 16, 2015 at 5:27 pm Pyjama Wearing Ninja

        Funny enough, she had nudes leaked and she got banned from twitch for drinking on cam, but she got unbanned because she has a pussy.

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  44. on March 13, 2015 at 5:04 pm Tam the Bam

    Des, as a probable adjunct to your opinion, it took me a while to realize that:
    (1) ‘Er Indoors never wore much more than lippy, and neither did her girlfriends. Usually when meeting opposition cubicle drones over contracts. Never for a night out (leaves ugly smears on the gin-glasses)
    (2) she and all her ladypals are somewhere On The Spectrum, despite their girlyness. It’s the inbreeding, and also what makes them tolerable as conversationalists. Therefore they could not ever be made to care enough. The sad retards. Just like me, their proximate cousin.

    tldr; british girls are idle clarty uncaring sluts, but you can have a larrff with ’em.

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  45. on March 13, 2015 at 5:26 pm Anonymous

    “I believe that women use makeup and clothing to compete with the attractiveness of other women.”

    “The only time women think about attracting a man is when they’re competing against each other for a man who has high social value.”

    do you even

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  46. on March 13, 2015 at 5:40 pm Puitn

    I don’t buy that women dress like clowns for men. Just don’t. Some of the fashions and hair styles I have seen women gush over are ridiculous clown shit that would attract no man, just women.

    Now sabotage? That I might be able to buy.

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    • on March 14, 2015 at 2:11 am whorefinder

      I remember a great quote from a chick dressed to the nines (seen online, not heard in person):

      “The cleavage is for the men; the shoes are for the women.”

      Sex difference rape!

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  47. on March 13, 2015 at 6:41 pm Broadsman

    While high IQ women have their advantages (smarter kids, price checking, following recipes, etc) their major downside is that they think up some amazing rationalizations and let themselves believe it.

    In general, they tend to misuse the power of a competent forebrain. Feminism is the latest example. I’m beginning the think that happiness for a man is found in an only slightly brighter than average woman. If you find a really smart woman who is grounded and not prone to pseudo-rationality, she could be a real prize.

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  48. on March 13, 2015 at 7:17 pm Dude

    hey there 🙂

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  49. on March 13, 2015 at 7:30 pm Anonymous

    Hi CH!
    I miss yoooooouuuuu. 😉
    You forgot me, but I didn’t forget you. You pop into my mind here and there. Come visit me. xoxo

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  50. on March 13, 2015 at 8:35 pm AWA4

    Indian girls like white guys better than Indian guys.

    What’s your opinion on Indian guys, Mr. Heartiste?

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  51. on March 13, 2015 at 8:37 pm AWA4

    Indian girls prefer white guys

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    • on March 14, 2015 at 2:09 am whorefinder

      This is an intra-brown fight of the sexes, dickhead. back the fuck off them.and let the brownies discipline their females.

      Apartheid rape!

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  52. on March 13, 2015 at 10:18 pm universe

    Her gene puppeteer has made sure she does the right things to maximize her chances of scoring Mr. Right. Paradoxically, her genes have also made sure she is only dimly aware, if at all, of the procreatively devious machinations of her helical overlord. The transmission signal is strengthened when the electrochemical vessel doesn’t poke around too much in the circuitry.
    – Oh man, In the early stages of six-pack abs from all the laughter.

    I’m crying ‘uncle’ for the girl’s behalf on this post.

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  53. on March 14, 2015 at 2:07 am whorefinder

    This chick sounds like PA using a sock-puppet.

    Sock-puppet rape?

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  54. on March 14, 2015 at 4:33 am walawala

    Ok dudes, an update for you and a little text exchange that I personally found so amusing I share it in its entirety. You’ll recall the 27 year old I was banging—fulfilling all her dirty fantasies with—everything…suddenly blows me off—tells me to fuck off and accuses me of banging other girls…I go radio silent for two weeks…then I’m walking down the street and out of the corner of my eye I spot her with another…local Chinese guy…of the kind of “nice guy” type…he’s grinning like a dick and she’s smiling…it’s clearly a date.. She doesn’t see me.

    I text her and I had to say this…: \

    Me: that was you on the escalator just now. Looked like you were bay sitting your nephew or younger brother

    Her: that was not me. My sister. Twin

    Me: get back to babysitting ME FRAMING HER AS LEADING HIM

    Her: He’s the same age as my sister HER DEFENSIVE…RESPONDING IN 2 MINUTES

    Me: look good….like brother and sister. I approve. You need that

    Her: No need ur approval. When my sister got sick he took half day off. Drive her to see doc TRIES TO FRAME HIM AS THE WHITE KNIGHT

    Me: That’s nice…I’m too unpredictable. You need someone who will drop everything for you. Better fit. I FRAME MYSELF AS THE POLAR OPPOSITE

    Her: she rejected of course. she can take care of herself SISTER REALIZES DUDE IS A WUSS…..

    Me; but you need someone who wants your approval badly and will do anything for it. Dream come true. I approve NOTE THE INCEPTING OF IDEAS…I IMAGINE HER SHOWING THIS TO HIM AND HIM BEING CONFUSED.

    her; ur AGREEING TO MY UNPREDICTABILITY LINE

    Me; I’m too much of a free spirit for you.

    Her ur quite annoying. no need ur comment. Approval whatever. none of ur business

    Me: you can be 30 minutes late and he will wait patiently. This is what you need

    You can complain non stop and he will listen. This is important….and he will apologize when you talk nonsense and say crazy things. I’m relieved.

    I did write way more than I normally ever texted when I was banging her. But the context was sooooo irresistible. She’s accusing me of cheating on her and I catch her….and I then start slipping in the BF destroyer: I approve…brother and sister…nice…you need that…drawing a line..

    I imagined them at Starbucks, her typing madly, him asking “What’s wrong???” and comforting her while she thought about me banging some hot chick…

    Yes, I did over-type…but was aware she would be showing the dude this and imagining what a herb would say…”HE’s so rude….” yes…IF he did all that stuff for her sister…I imagine him hugging her…while she things about me spanking her with a belt doggie style…

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    • on March 16, 2015 at 5:40 pm Pyjama Wearing Ninja

      lol, I pity the guy, but I had a similar experience. I had lunch with this girl with a nice rack and the next time we talked she told me about this guy that keeps inviting her on this trip and trying to give her flowers and writing her poems. Mind you, the guy actually wrote half decent stuff for her and she kept asking me why would he think she’d accept his trip proposition(from the way the idiot talked, it sounded like he had already bought the tickets or something, but he kept asking instead of assuming the sale and he didn’t qualify her AT ALL).

      So I feigned an OMG reaction and told her I must throw away all the poetry I wrote for her now and that I guess I should cancel the tickets I bought for us to go to the mountains. Her reply was ‘noooo, I love the mountains’. So instead of devoting time to writing stuff for her, I simply teased her and did some non-sequitur stuff on her prior to this. I don’t get men who hate women for it instead of being thankful you don’t have to actually write poems to get laid. lol

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      • on March 16, 2015 at 5:47 pm Pyjama Wearing Ninja

        I continued by making her qualify herself for the trip to the mountains by pretending she’s not athletic enough and teasing her about why should I take her(flipped the script she had on that dude). Too bad I fucked up by postponing meeting her again and making something happen. 😦

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  55. on March 14, 2015 at 6:54 am Culum Struan

    @walawala – I didn’t think it was overtyping at all in this context. You are getting the reaction you want from here.

    What struck me most was:

    1. You are plainly messing around self-amusing yourself and it comes through very clearly

    2. You are pushing things (and keeping on texting her) even when she doesn’t seem to welcome the text (and yet she keeps responding to you).

    I’m learning to calibrate the second point myself because I don’t want to be stalker-y and keep on texting a girl who has literally said “don’t text me anymore” or similar – but sometimes it’s just a shit test.

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    • on March 14, 2015 at 1:11 pm walawala

      @Culum About 4 hours later, I sent; “:Lolzzzzz”

      She replied with a rationalization of why it was ok to be later; “It’s called flexibility”….

      There were a ten ways I could reply to that but didn’t reply at all.

      What’s clear from all this is that the bizarre over-reaction to me saying a woman baked pies for me…was a way of projecting her own guilt that she had started seeing some local herb….so accusing me of cheating was a way for her to justify it to herself…see how a woman’s rationalization hamster works?

      Women react angrily to you based on how they feel about themselves….that’s why it’s best to ignore that shit and not get too bogged down in the details.

      in today’s case…it was just too satisfying to catch her with a herb and then watch as she texted me clearly while she was still with him…and if she showed him my texts if would only re-enforce the “you’re the rebound guy” concept to him. Considering how I’ve fucked up a few game things..this was quite fun to do.

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    • on March 15, 2015 at 9:34 pm walawala

      @Culum and all….of course….she wrote me today: “hey babe, want to see you…promise I won’t be late”…

      I haven’t replied…yet…will let this stew a bit….then bang her brains out.

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  56. on March 14, 2015 at 7:20 am PA

    The female character in this video is certainly not a feminist.

    In twenty-year hindsight, this video is about how Murka disowned her men with NAFTA, full-on cheap labor lobby immigration, and toxic Kulturkampf. The female character can literally be seen as an ideal of a supportive woman, or it can be seen as a symbol of God’s grace through a man’s — and a nation’s — darkest hour.

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    • on March 14, 2015 at 7:17 pm PA

      This may seem like ancient history and I do not know the insider stuff in the music industry, but the title and the timing of this song seem meaningful. This is just after Bill Clinton was elected and part of his Hillary’s campaign stomping was her feminist cred. Infamously at the time, she said “I’m not sitting here like some little woman standing by my man, like Tammy Wynette.”

      This is an allusion to Tammy Wynete’s classic song “Stand by your man.”

      I can’t help but think, that in the writing of this song and releasing it in 94, there was a conscious support, somewhere, for the old idea of a woman standing by her man.

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      • on March 15, 2015 at 11:48 pm Random Guy

        While it maybe true the popularity of the song may have been because of the old idea of a women standing by by her man.

        The video it self almost comes off as anti-the idea of the song.

        Everything is crap, the house is crap, roaches are every where, the guy is emotionally non-open, depends on god instead of her.

        There does seem to be religious symbolism through out it; she bathes him like perhaps Jesus and John the baptist or getting baptized in general?

        Was the video implying women who did this, had a matyr syndrome or were doing it just to feel “better” than others?

        Despite the fact that basically she kept him alive and going and would never leave him, what does he do at the end he “plays his ace”….he leaves her.

        Considering how much symbolism is going on her and the traditional phallic nature of knives i have to wonder what was going on there as well.

        There’s a few ideas going around here that I’m not quite getting either, just vaguely aware that they exist.

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      • on March 16, 2015 at 5:51 pm Pyjama Wearing Ninja

        Random Guy, tell me a romantic song written/sang by a woman who doesn’t have the man leaving her, her being wronged somewhere, him somehow not being good enough etc.

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    • on March 14, 2015 at 7:21 pm PA

      The video focuses on the crucifix more than once. Again, cant help but notice that.

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  57. on March 14, 2015 at 8:32 am Simon Wolfe

    In fact, thinking on this some more,

    Makeup is not used to make a woman prettier, in an ostensibly physical way. Makeup is used to make a woman appear younger. It’s a short circuit, a cheat code to game the system and snare a man they could not otherwise attract. It allows them a longer ride on the carousel, a few more precious years of trading what beauty they have for free drinks, resources and fun times with sexy cads.

    They might not speak out loud about it, but I believe women are vaguely aware of the impending wall and on some basic level they are terrified of it. When they hit the wall they lose everything.

    This is why makeup has so much value and is a multimillion dollar industry. This is why they wear makeup at work and on nights out, where they still want to leverage their beauty to gain social status for as long as possible.

    Incidentally it is also the reason why the efforts to market makeup to men have been a wholehearted disaster and it only appeals to the freaks, losers and dropouts. Men have neither need nor desire to appear younger than they are.

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  58. on March 14, 2015 at 8:38 am Dimitri

    So, as a thought experiment, let’s imagine two scenarios:

    1. All men disappear from the earth. Only women remain.
    2. Everyone disappears except for 1,000 women and 50 men.

    Women will dress and style themselves in the same way in both scenarios?

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  59. on March 14, 2015 at 8:48 am Bill Brasky

    “Girlwords carry about as much weight as John Scalzi’s jockstrap.”

    Words to live by. Hopefully someone is collecting these lines somewhere.

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  60. on March 14, 2015 at 9:18 am Putin

    I think we need to be honest here. Makeup, well the jury is still out.

    Clown clothes and short hair….well there is no way in hell a guy is going to be attracted to that shit. And the more clown like the more these women gush, especially older women. I have seen it over and over again. They would rather dress up like a poofy clown than get themselves into shape and wear a tight form fitting outfit.
    Have a long haired natural beauty wearing just some tight jeans walk in on a women’s clownfest and the whole dynamics change in seconds.

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  61. on March 14, 2015 at 4:51 pm Sean Fielding

    Regarding mental gymnastics, all performed nimbly while spinning on a hamster wheel:

    Feminists convinced themselves a half-century ago that somehow, the freedom of the penetrated sex to be penetrated a lot by the penetrating sex equals ’empowerment.’.

    And that in contradiction of the basic fact: evolution has designed the penetrated to carefully trade sex in exchange for commitment, while the penetrators carefully trade commitment in exchange for sex.

    When one considers that this mental broad jump is the very foundation of second wave feminism, no other stupidity should surprise.

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  62. on March 16, 2015 at 6:41 am Ton

    “Paradoxically, her genes have also made sure she is only dimly aware, if at all, of the procreatively devious machinations of her helical overlord.”

    Sentences like that keep me warm in the winter and cool in the summer.

    Tanks

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  63. on March 16, 2015 at 12:40 pm Pyjama Wearing Ninja

    “I believe that women use makeup and clothing to compete with the attractiveness of other women.”
    As you say, CH, compete for what? Male attention. That’s like saying that the only reason we learn game is to amuse ourselves in social situations and to hone our repartee, it has NOOOOOTHING to do with pussy.

    This foolishness is analogous to saying we eat fruits because they’re sweet and taste good despite evolving to have a penchant for their taste because they’re healthy to eat. This impulse can be hijacked and result in rampant obesity due to HFCS and other such sweets. If a woman tells me she dolls herself up to compete with her friends, I will regard her as intelligent as an obese person that says the healthiness of food is assessed by how well it tastes.

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    • on March 16, 2015 at 12:42 pm Pyjama Wearing Ninja

      Frankly, what I find amusing is that apparently attaining sperm and boring the next generation is simply a side effect of women competing with each other. Such a species would have long went extinct. Feminists rejecting science and evolution though isn’t something new.

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  65. on March 18, 2015 at 8:15 pm Shauna

    Found one on YouTube.

    http://imgur.com/gallery/bcr0I26

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