A couple weeks ago, CH wrote:
Mark my words, a massive elite push to legitimize and maybe even codify polyamory is next on the agenda.
A day ago, a mainstream Hivemind megaphone had an article about some old skank who slept with a bunch of losers while her cucked beta husband — although bless him he managed to prevent this feminist crone from reproducing — meekly acquiesced to his wife’s spiritual eatpraycumguzzle journey. Oh, and the raging narcissist wrote a book about it all.
Get ready for “The Wild Oats Project.” And not just the book. Get ready for “The Wild Oats Project” phenomenon — the debates, the think pieces, the imitators and probably the movie. Get ready for orgasmic meditation and the Three Rules. Get ready for “My Clitoris Deals Solely in Truth” T-shirts.
The reader who forwarded the article noted, “Are you psychic? Right on queue the mainstream media shows up with a trial balloon for polyamory.”
Psychic? Only a little. Mostly, leftoids are just really easy to read.
Yep, open marriages full of wonder and free of hostility or jealousy will be the newest old frontier the replicant Leftoid Industries will attempt to normalize as authentically human. After that’s accomplished (bet on it), gay pederasty is next.
Legal and social sanction of polyamory is not the same as widespread embrace of the sex at dawn lifestyle. That hoped-for popular embrace of polyamory by the left-behinds of society may never come, if current arrangements are indicative of future compositions. FACT: Most open polyamorists are hideously ugly. Polyamory is not the free choice of physically and psychologically attractive people. FACT: The typical nasty three-way in a willingly conjoined open relationship is one leather-faced high T cougar whose labia could survive the chemical bath of deep sea volcanic vents, one wretched, low T omega male “primary” whose job it is to sniff the cuckcum in his wanton whore’s granny panties and masturbate, and one slightly higher T (or, more accurately, lower E) beta male who couldn’t afford an internet connection for better quality virtual vagina.
Ad revenue for major Hivemind media organs has been dropping like a stone. I guess they’ve decided to say “fuck it” to serious journalism and let loose with the technicolor ejaculate of their gnarled ids.
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Maybe it will be called “wild oating” – married people sleeping around when they are getting older, before they are too old to up their count.
I saw a forwarded New York Post link about this earlier, written by the author herself. The story is full of quotes that make you think “what the hell?” but that are written in a “move along, nothing to see here” tone. She left out a lot of things though, as CH’s Washington Post link shows – things like joining a commune. She instead calls it a “sexual-education center”, makes it sound like evening classes.
http://nypost.com/2015/03/16/i-bedded-12-strangers-in-a-year-with-my-husbands-permission/
Two minutes after he’s gone, I climb back into bed and text my husband, Scott, whom I’ve been with for 18 years. “Just saying good night,” I type. “Good night, dove,” writes back Scott from wherever he is.
Aww. What a dove.
Before then, starting a family had felt like one route to this elusive state of feminine fulfillment. But Scott had made it absolutely clear he never wanted a baby, and even had a vasectomy.
Actually, this guy has it coming to him. If he doesn’t give her children to bring up and to help her mature, then life becomes empty for a woman.
I was approaching my sexual peak and was relaxing into myself.
This New York/Los Angeles catchy magazine language. It makes you wish EMP bombs would take out all electricity so that everyone using this language would die from their inability to live in reality.
the crazy 12 months in 2008 and 2009 I jokingly call my “Wild Oats Project,”
21st-century upbeat name, making it a “project”. That should take care of things. Slight detail: women don’t have “wild oats”, it refers to men’s sperm. But leftoids never care about accuracy in language.
I broke the news to Scott that I wanted an open marriage in early 2008, a few months after his vasectomy. “I won’t go to my grave with no children and four lovers,” I told him repeatedly. “I refuse.”
You go, girl! “I refuse” to not sleep around, that’s cause for divorce right there. But again, he has it coming to him. His vasectomy should also be an immediate annulment of the marriage. Clearly his wife wanted children, and that is not an unreasonable request.
My first step was placing an ad on nerve.com, a kind of intellectual version of Craigslist’s Casual Encounters.
I looked through it, a website with articles. It’s leftist “Freakiness is fun and consequence-free!” crap.
OneTaste was the place where I selected most of my lovers
Whaat? I though those “communes” were not about casual hooking up but about freeing your “spiritual and sexual self”, etc. Just like … nudism. Could it be that gurus who set these things up have the ulterior motive to get access to starry-eyed women, regardless of what they say about philosophy? The shock!
But we had a real connection.
In other words, the twelve years younger astrologer Jude was good at his game. He wanted sex with her, so he knew what to say and how. Good job, Jude.
But, by the end of the 12-month project, moving back home full time proved more difficult than I had thought. After you open up a marriage and experience a whole range of sexual variety and aspects of yourself you’ve never had before, it’s hard to put everything back in the box.
Moral of the story: if you start having sex with others, the relationship will end. Just end the relationship first and make it honest. It is tiresome to listen to the leftist talk about how there are no instincts, no right way to have a relationship – then you see even the most leftist of couples being unable to handle it.
Suddenly I found an updated version of myself.
Like computers! “Updated”, how chic and modern. She has it all figured out, all the clever words in place for her “project”.
Meanwhile, it turned out that, for around six months, Scott had been exclusively sleeping with one woman, a lot younger than me. That bothered me, especially as they hadn’t been using condoms.
Neither had she – used condoms, that is. Gotta hand it to Scott, he managed to make her jealous and nervous. Since Janet only had sex with twelve people, and only one or a few times with each, Scott probably had more sex.
Five years on, Alden and I are happily living together. It’s a regular, monogamous relationship. I’m grateful I experienced my marriage to Scott (who has since found a new partner) but now, for this part of my life, I believe being with someone who is the most temperamentally like me is where I can learn more.
She “experienced” her marriage. Again, she has a way with words. Leftoid thinking, repackaged to sound cool and modern, oozes out of her choice of words and descriptions.
Actually I suspect the whole idea was a way for her to find a new husband, while keeping the chance of staying with her husband as a backup plan. But of course she won’t write that in the book.
So we learn at the END of the long article that she got a divorce. Her marriage failed because of this. That should have been in the TITLE, framing the whole story. Most readers won’t read to the end and discover how it went – they will only see someone writing in an upbeat tone about an “open marriage”, and it sounds like a great success. That’s what mots people will remember.
First I channeled the creativity I would have used to become a mom into my sexuality, and then I channeled it into writing my memoir.
Odd. Having children is about “channeling creativity”, no obligation to create a second generation. No obligation to her parents to give them grandchildren so the chain will continue. The sexuality becomes her “creativity”, and then her memoirs. The memoirs are not about teaching anyone anything (though, unsaid is the desire to make people accept wild oating). It is all about her having fun like a twenty-something.
The Right focuses on duties, the Left focuses on experiences.
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Hello CH,
I was at a party and this girl says “your sort of an asshole”. She wasn’t legitimentally mad at me, she was referring to how I usually engage her on twitter. After she posts ill make a smart remark or something along those lines (not every time she posts). I do agree with what you said a few posts back “The CH lesson is always, ALWAYS, supremacy of attitude over execution. If you possess the alpha attitude, the sexy words will fall into place”. I agree with his statement whole heartedly don’t get me wrong. However i still think knowing what to say cant hurt anything. so I ask you whats the ideal response? Any advice is appreciated, thank you.
-NorthWestBest
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“So they say, smiling the same way you are too… you LOVE it don’t you! If you think that’s great, wait til you find out how much of a dick I am… here, I’ll show you, grab us 2 drinks, the finest, and meet me ” smile and laugh with them to ride the high of nonchalant exhilaration between lasereyes and steadily building more comfortable welcoming puysical rapport with body language inviting them to Ingroup gestures to furnish the instant understanding of being “in” on the Joke and the game where Nobody else is. There, on a silver platter. Bon appetit
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Acusa you sound like a fucking faggot.
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Notch+1
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If you wanna sleep with her that very night, then you stare straight into her eyes and say very slowly, in a deep voice: “Honey, I’m 50 Shades of Asshole. Your asshole, that is.” But after saying it, you gotta be prepared to immediately take her by the hand, drive her straight home, and perform ana1 on her backside. You can’t deliver a line like that and then back off down into Beta Orbiter mode again. Dark Triad only. Nice Guys need not apply.
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“Honey, I’m 50 Shades of Asshole. Your asshole, that is.”
Too much commitment. Better is “An @$$hole for you, tonight.”
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The question is whether you want to fornicate with and/or sodomize her. AGREE & AMPLIFY: “Honey, I’m 50 Shades of Asshole.” Now you can leave it at that and just walk away. But if you wanna strike while the chemistry is hot, then you ASSUME THE SALE: “Your asshole, that is.” And then you take her by the hand and leave. Not for beginners. Not for the faint of heart. Not for dudes with squeaky voices or sweaty palms or trembling knees or hyperventilation. Pure Dark Triad Svengali territory here.
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This type of advice reminds me of what a former roommate told me once:
I had just gotten back from a club with two buddies of mine. While there, I asked a girl if she wanted to dance. She said maybe later and I figured whatever. (Many, many moons ago before taking the red pill.) I told my roommate what had happened and he looks at me, deadpans: Next time, pull your dick out, throw it on the table and say “Now whatta ya gonna do?”
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NWB:
“your sort of an asshole”
Agree and Amplify. The type of A&A depends on your frame.
“youbetcha, living the dream” –fantasy dhv
“and you wouldn’t want it any other way” –cocky, engaging
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@NorthWestBest – something along the lines of what theasdgamer said – “Yeah and you love it”, said with a smirk and checking her out. It is HOW YOU SAY IT that is most imp
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Wrong. Wrong. Wrong. You’re supposed to lick her asshole right then and there. Page 72 of the Mystery Method.
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Doh, sorry Dude, I forgot!
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Just give her a sardonic Clark Gable smirk and reply:
“Sort of?”
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If you wanna go cute-and-cuddly-teddy-bear jerkface on her, it could be “Sort of? JUST SORT OF?!? Ouch, that hurts my FEE-WEENzzz…” with big sarcastic puppy-dog eyebrows. Followed by a smirk.
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‘engage her on twitter’
this doesnt sound good at all man, it reeks of a desperation of first you found her on it, then you comment/’tweet’ her?
GTFO twitter and go for number/date etc
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Simply say, ‘Yeah.’. Then take a sip of ur beer or whatever and take in the room like you’ve forgotten she’s there.
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To be clear it will be “The De-Stigmatization Of Polyamory Is Underway…For Women”. Men will be stigmatized relentlessly for banging more than one girl.
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Indeed. Fat acceptance, polyamory…all that insanity is for women only.
Sometimes I wonder if women as a gender are intentionally trying to get men to the point where we will simply collectively start treating them like shit…
And they’ll love us for it.
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That’s something to ponder. Are they reflexively shit-testing the shit test? maybe there’s hope. Fucking unintended consequences.
It’s probably unhealthy to soak myself in 100proof bourbon while delighting in the spectacle of the many CrimeThinkSnitch groups clawing at one another.
This fucking place (earth, now). Madhouse. Imagine the worst, predict it, and become a prophet.
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> “if women as a gender are intentionally trying”
Women aren’t intentionally creating this Narrative – the Narrative is being written for them, by Evil Psychiatry Incorporated. Women [and especially at-risk Women, to the Left of the spiritual bell curve] are just doing what they’ve always done, which is to follow the Narrative that has been written for them to follow.
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The text continues like this (taken from Rollo’s comment section):
“Meanwhile, it turned out that, for around six months, Scott had been exclusively sleeping with one woman, a lot younger than me. That bothered me, especially as they hadn’t been using condoms.”
Which totally proves your point. All the freedom solely for women, men are reduced to husbandry.
Soren is right as well. Women trying to push their limits is “the meta shit test”.
However I don’t see men putting their feet down. They either drop out, refuse to marry or excel at philandering.
[CH: of those three reactions — dropping out, avoiding marriage, philandering — the second two are nothing like the first. dropping out is a nonstarter to any man who loves the company of women. avoiding marriage and philandering can be seen as a version of putting one’s foot down, because both encourage women, by way of incentives, to curb their unappealing excesses.]
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OK, this is sick, I can’t even comment more than a sentence. And when I do it disappears in the black hole
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Even Jeff Bezos is allowing this filth at the Washington Post: “I was no prude, as a sexually active single gal. But as a standing policy, I did not sleep with strangers. I slept with Nico that night because, thanks to those Google-assisted communications, he didn’t feel like one…” http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/love-in-translation/2015/03/13/759964a2-c773-11e4-a199-6cb5e63819d2_story.html
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My bad – Heartiste’s link above is already to a piece at Jeff Bezos’s Washington Post.
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The text continues like this (taken from Rollo’s comment section):
“Meanwhile, it turned out that, for around six months, Scott had been exclusively sleeping with one woman, a lot younger than me. That bothered me, especially as they hadn’t been using [protection].”
Which totally proves your point. All the freedom solely for women, men are reduced to husbandry.
Soren is right as well. Women trying to push their limits is “the meta shit test”.
However I don’t see men putting their feet down. They either drop out, refuse to marry or excel at philandering.
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You think there will be a total reversal? That seems unlikely, because right now the (flawed) logic that feminists used to justify female promiscuity is that men do it and therefore women have just as much of a right to do it too. It’s part of their “gender equality”.
What I think is more likely is that everyone will just end up screwing everyone, like Sodom and Gomorrah, and the angels will descend once again to save the righteous and once again clean up the mess humanity has made.
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Jesus told them another parable: “The kingdom of heaven is like a man who sowed good seed in his field. But while everyone was sleeping, his enemy came and sowed weeds among the wheat, and went away. When the wheat sprouted and formed heads, then the weeds also appeared.
“The owner’s servants came to him and said, ‘Sir, didn’t you sow good seed in your field? Where then did the weeds come from?’
“‘An enemy did this,’ he replied.
“The servants asked him, ‘Do you want us to go and pull them up?’
“‘No,’ he answered, ‘because while you are pulling the weeds, you may uproot the wheat with them. Let both grow together until the harvest. At that time I will tell the harvesters: First collect the weeds and tie them in bundles to be burned; then gather the wheat and bring it into my barn.'”
(Matthew 13:24-30)
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Polygamy has been discouraged in the west because it creates a “second son” or surplus men problem, and more recently because it is oppressive to women.
On the female side, the older wives are basically discarded once they hit the wall, and although they are provided for, they are locked down inside the relationship. No eat pray love for you, dearie. They maintain their position by attempting to oppress the more junior wives, who are the male’s favorites. I suspect women enter a traditional harem thinking it will be sexy and then find out that after a few years, it’s like the worst middle school they ever attended, with no escape. My wife likes trash TV and she was watching one of the polygamy shows one night and we talked about it and she – sensible woman – said she couldn’t imagine how awful and unhappy the women must get after a while.
The surplus men need to find something to do with themselves. In the middle east and middle ages, they traditionally made war and became criminals. In modernity… perhaps they become the permanent video gaming class. There are good arguments to be made that the later Crusades and a lot of the Caliphate’s mucking about toward Europe, scorched earth affairs, were the results of the surplus sons looking for wealth and power that their fathers and older brothers’ had horded. China is trying to figure out how this will work out given their One Child policy, and India will face the same thing in the near future due to sex-selective abortion.
If you are alpha enough – and I mean old school beat some ass has a herd of cattle on the ranch alpha – you have nothing to fear from reverting to this sort of tribal system. You had better keep your pimp hand high with the women, however, and keep your guns and pals handy because those surplus men tend to get pretty maraude-y. The fantasy of this as a feminist wonderland is only possible in a gentle western society with plenty of social captial to spend on fantasies. As their leftist poltiics continue to march from victory to victory, there isn’t going to be so much leeway for people to live out their fantasy lives. Life is going to get rougher here and they will regret having broken down this taboo. Oh well… not my problem.
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Great comment. I’ve read about the polygamous communities in Arizona, Utah, Montana, Mexico, Canada, etc — and the “excess” young males are by far the biggest problem to the community’s stability. One community goes so far as to literally drive them out of the town when they turn eighteen and drop them off in the nearest big city. Don’t come back.
China is having a problem with excessive numbers of young males (thanks to the one-child policy and rampant abortion of female fetuses). They realize that they have been shut out of the national sexual marketplace. This has led to a lucrative black market in the kidnapping of female North Korean escapees.
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“The surplus men need to find something to do with themselves. In the middle east…”
Homosexuality.
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> The fantasy of this as a feminist wonderland is only possible in a gentle western society with plenty of social capital to spend on fantasies.
When the MALE cops and marines stop buying into protecting this, the game is over. Hard.
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> “MALE cops and marines” Can you imagine being a white male police officer in Ferguson, Missouri right now? Chimpanzees with rifles are shooting at you, Chimpanzees with suits from the DOJ are suing you, and Evil Psychiatry Inc is directing the entirety of its “mainstream” media to goad the chimpanzees into a tribalistic frenzy and hysteria directed at you?
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As a man with an open marriage, and upfront about it, I’ve confirmed this. The vast majority of women aren’t ok with with what I do. I’ve considered being underhandedly honest by not even mentioning I have an open marriage to women I’m macking on.
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[…] Source: Heartiste […]
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She looks like Al Franken. And what a fuckin cunt. He gets his tubes tied so she wants to fuck other men. Not to get pregnant . Just to fuck. Imagine the outrage if a man did that to his cunt of a wife.
Anyway its a fake marriage so it doesnt matter. They werent 2 sterile people getting together just to be together. They deided to not procreate. Their union was worthless from the beginning.
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The text continues like this (taken from Rollo’s comment section):
“Meanwhile, it turned out that, for around six months, Scott had been exclusively sleeping with one woman, a lot younger than me. That bothered me, especially as they hadn’t been using condoms.”
Which totally proves your point. All the freedom solely for women, men are reduced to husbandry.
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Translated into English: “After I asserted my basic human right to slut around on our marriage and slept with (I lost count of how many) guys, which shows how steamingly hot I am because my clit don’t lie, he went and found a stable relationship with a younger, hotter woman, the whore. I think he’s an asshole for behaving in this way because he could get a disease or get her pregnant. Other than his stupidity, I have no regrets.”
Translated into subtext: “After a string of pump & dumps with some okay sex but no emotional joy, I am resentful that my husband – who is now lost to me for all intents and purposes – went out and upgraded, finding a younger and hotter woman whom he has bonded with. I feel so left out and used. Fuck I’m stupid. Oh God, this is a disaster and I can’t see my way out. Hey, maybe some more empty sex with guys who throw me away like a Kleenex will fix it…shit, I hope I get some good alimony out of this.”
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Same article re-written for us dumb aussies can be found here with a video too…
http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/relationships/robin-rinaldi-i-bedded-12-strangers-in-a-year-with-my-husbands-permission/story-fnet0gt3-1227265537001
She said:
“My first step was placing an ad on nerve.com, a kind of intellectual version of the online personal listing. Under the heading: “Good girl seeks experience,” it read: “I’m a 44-year-old professional, educated, attractive woman in an open marriage, seeking single men age 35-50 to help me explore my sexuality. You must be trustworthy, smart, and skilled at conversation as well as in bed.””
Good girl? Attractive? Please pass the vomit bag……..
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Do men with ‘side hos’ fall into this same category?
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Only in the” observation of analogies for purposes of justifying hypergamy of ugly chicks” sense; not in the “approval of new ways” sense. The concept polyamory is accetable only for women!
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Actually, yes. heartiste is incorrect that only women are poly.
[CH: i never said only women have poly urges. in fact, CH is on record — MULTIPLE times — writing that men have stronger and more frequent polygynous urges than women have polyandrous urges. CH is also on record as stating that polyandrous women will be able to fulfill, sexually at least, their urges with less effort than polyandrous men will be able to fulfill theirs.
SC, you know what other kind of commenter incessantly puts words in my mouth? cunt feminists. are you a cunt feminist?]
I had a male classmate who had a good natured, thin, but facially unattractive gf so he told her he wanted to be poly. Now, the gf was too good natured to get a side bf while he had 5 side girls at one time.
If everybody were to practice poly (God forbid), at the very top of society you’d see high status men openly having several gfs at the same time, and just being more open and honest about it than they previously were. At the bottom of society you’d see a bunch of omega men sharing the few women who would have them.
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and how is that different from what’s currently in place? Those rich muscular tall men get most of the girls and men who don’t have much game, accept less than perfect (just for the record, most beautiful women get men lapping up after them and most normal average women would be grateful to find an awesome (sorry Beta) man.
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No. A man with a piece on the side is a cheating pig dog, a slime bag, an example of No Good Men any more.
A woman who cheats is Spreading her Wings, You Go Girl! and How Dare you Call Her a Slut!
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This.
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“Yeah and why is it so hard for men to ‘commit’ these days?!? Don’t any [alpha] men want a relationship [with all the strings attached and no sex in a sexually exclusive relationship]?”
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Cheat. I hate that word. No man should ever use it…unless talking about a card game.
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I disagree. A man AND women who makes their partner look like a chump sucks but Joe, you are missing the point (or your sarcasm made you appear stupid), it’s all about sowing their wild oats (which usually means they are single and getting sexual conquering out of the way before they find someone for a commitment/long term).
Men and women are Sowing their Wild Oats (I personally can’t see the point in empty sex). Men AND women are cheating. Equality is almost here! One day we will all realize that those two kinds of people will mate and live UNhappily ever after (because past promiscuous behaviour only encourages more promiscuous behaviour be it male or female, it doesn’t get it out of your system like many men believe)
Those that end up happiest are those who focus on the real genuine attributes of a person. We also dont sleep with everyone (because our personalities make the act sacred) and we dont date up (because we know that he will have a higher value and will dump or cheat on us) and we accept someone for their values and personality (because a broken man or women is almost impossible to change) and we recognize the lust because of someone’s “hotness” as temporary (because that goes with age and even familiarity) . We focus on what sort of man will make a good father /or mother. We look at consequences and long term satisfaction.
I’m not sure why you all get so angry with men or women who are promiscuous. Let them find each other. Let men and women go out and do the same. Assholes will attract cheating women. Fake bitches will attract a man who uses them to raise his family while he plays the field. Why does it bother you so much?
Also why are SOME of you trying to encourage men to sleep with women but somehow these women are all to remain pure. You are breeding sluttiness with the PUA tricks you encourage each other to do. You say we are illogical but you are doing one thing but hoping to keep women another way. It makes no sense. That’s like me telling you I want a good guy but date a jerk. It’s as confusing as that. If you want us to remain pure, then dont encourage your brothers to lie to sleep with us. I’m confused as to why you all get so angry when you are perpetuating the situation. Like I said only some of you are like this so I apologize if it appears I’m stating you are all like this. I appreciate the goodness in men as much as I recognise what I’ve already stated about SOME of you.
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@sugarbaby,
You need to realize that men are not and never have been in charge. Women are and always have been in charge. Men simply follow the culture that women create. Women have created a culture that rewards cads and bad boys with sex and actively punishes men who attempt to be good husbands and fathers with divorce rape and taking their children from them while enslaving them with child support quotas.
You women created this culture. Us men are only trying to live in it. We don’t like it but we aren’t in charge. So we can’t change it. We can only react to it. It’s up to the people in charge, women, to finally take some responsibility for their power and to grow up already and fix our defective culture.
Woman up already. The only way men can fix this mess you all have created is through war. Do you really want to get to that point?
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ok, I have read a lot of youtube comments stating that female on male rape often goes underreported and should be treated as a serious matter. This is baffling on so many levels I don’t even know where to begin. But if this actually happens, where are those women? Why haven’t I ever come across them?
[CH: i don’t buy the female-on-male rape under-reporting argument. my guess is that most f2m “rapes” are 1. trannies muscling weak men into position, 2. post-beer goggle regret, and 3. divorce court flim flam.]
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Why haven’t I ever come across them?
Unless you’re into warpigs, count yourself lucky.
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Female on male rape is just another step in pushing the prog agenda. Men and women are not the same and rape should take that into account. Right along with everything else like education and the work force.
I’ve been “raped” by a girl. I was drunk and this HB4 kept insisting on sucking my dick. I said no at least ten times and tried to pull her head out of my lap. She kept going.
Is this rape? Do I have any desire to press charges? No because I’m not a woman.
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*Christians* called it: the de-stigmatization of everything is underway. There are two options for society, and they do not share power.
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We thought it was the Frankfurters. The Frankfurters!! But it’s deh Debbil!! Deh Debbil!! Cast him out with fire!!
Deh Debbil!!!
Corweenus. Corweeeeeenus.
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The story has also made an appearance in the Australian mainstream media.
http://www.theage.com.au/entertainment/books/robin-rinaldis-yearlong-sex-romp-ends-in-broken-marriage-and-a-book-20150317-1m1kdb.html
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Makes me embarrassed to be Australian. Yuck. Why not just separate if you want to bang other people. The moral of the story is don’t open up your relationship because it’s never JUST sex.
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Progism is ugly. That’s what will eventually bring it down.
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Being ‘open’ in a relationship is a sign of ‘tolerance’ and part of being non -rascist – doncha know?
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I can’t understand how this broad can lie like that with a straight face and seriously believe that people would buy it…
(shakin’ mah haid)
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Penn State Professor Loses Her Mind on International Flight
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Ph.D. Sociology, December 1995
Boston College
Chestnut Hill, Massachusetts
Halnon, K. B. (1995). Women’s agency in HYSTERIA and its Treatment. Boston College Dissertations and Theses, AAI9613827.
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FuriousFerret, March 13, 2015 at 9:11 am: “These people always existed. It’s just that no one really cared. If you were found to be a legalistic loony tune back in the day, they just put you in some position where you could be ignored while at the same time keeping you busy such as Nun, Governess, Grade School Teacher, etc. Now we actually care what mental basket cases think and how we should actually implement laws based on their fucked up worldview…” https://heartiste.wordpress.com/2015/03/13/what-a-butthurt-feminist-sounds-like/#comment-654926
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Link to Furious Ferret’s comment in mod, but he’s right: In the old days, these crazy broads were consigned to the nunneries. But Evil Psychiatry Inc realized that if they could just Gramsci-ify the curriculum, then these at-risk psychiatric basket cases could be flipped from spouting the Rosary to spouting Marx and Freud and Marcuse and Alinsky. For Evil Psychiatry Inc, this sort of psychological manipulation is so trivially easy that it’s like stealing candy from babies.
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The odds are good she lost her mind at some point before the video starts, probably 10-15 years earlier, at a minimum.
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Got a few other points in mod – especially about Furious Ferret’s supremely OUTSTANDING post of Friday the 13th – but this sort of at-risk personality has been targetted by Evil Psychiatry Inc and the Gramsci Project so as to be groomed into becoming their swallow-the-koolaid cannon-fodder true-believing foot-soldiers.
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americans should stop funding sociology entirely, it is just an exercise in groupthink and politics trump science. People like this woman are paid a salary to come up with unfalsifiable theories that are then regurgitated by leftist media and ultimately make their way in to people’s minds. there should be more of a movement to end tax payer funding for her brand of nonsense.
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When Gingrich et al took over in January of 1995, there were cries of “Defund the Left!” But Evil Psychiatry Inc countered with “Save the Chillunz!” and “Grandma will be eating dogfood!” and Gingrich pussied out and Evil Psychiatry Inc won yet again. Then Bush-Walker Inc hammered the stake through the heart of that agenda with its embrace of “Compassionate Conservatism”.
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As Henry Ford clearly wrote 100 years ago, “Americans” are Jews who are loyal only to the tribe. That’s who literally controls every aspect of America today, including everything related to higher education and who and what gets published, as well as banking, printing of money, the media, movies, TV, all three branches of government, all of the top 500 public corporations, and any medium corporation that wants to survive.
When foreigners think of “Americans,” they think of Jews. That’s literally who they see as the Ambassador to their country and other people at the top of both government and the private sector.
World War II and everything that has happened since shows this fact.
We goy “Americans” have no power to influence elections, policy, funding of universities, or even the “common core” leftist brainwashing that starts with our kids in kindergarten. Update on that: my kid was “taught” in a leftist brainwashing attempt on “I-ready” that cavemen did not eat meat. Can you fucking believe that.
They are literally bat shit out of this universe crazy, the leftists are.
They are propagandizing a vegan lifestyle to elementary school children!!!
Yes, as CH has observed, the modern higher education is a fucking joke. Dads pay their hard earned money that they were able to earn despite a lifetime of affirmative discrimination to send their daughters off to alpha fux the frat houses and have liberal arts professors who are militant lesbians teach a class called “Marriage & Family” where they spend the entire time “teaching” that the nuclear family will be dead in 20 years. I experienced such a class in 1994. At least half the students were women who should have been getting ready for marriage and their first child within 2 years.
If you think these young women were not influenced by this dike’s message, you are crazy.
YKW controls all funding, of everything, everywhere. Wars, books, college, media, music deals, what’s pushed on youtube, who gets a book deal, what is mandated as the e-learning for elementary schools, whether GBFM can have a blog where he quotes the Bible, whether the man who fucking invented Java Script can have a job or whether he is ruined for giving $800 of private first amendment speech money in support of traditional marriage, a cause that was agreed with by 65% of his fellow Californians, whether the “Ferguson” debacle is created but all mention of black on black crime and black on white crime is covered up.
CH, where’s that list of all the white men who have been fired for stating obvious facts that don’t go along with hivemind narrative control?
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Penn State also employs Michael (hockey stick) Mann, climate “scientist”.
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Posting this late but hope it gets read. Several years ago I was waiting in line to see There Will Be Blood for the 2nd time. This was in Menlo Park. Got to talking to a guy in line. It was his 2nd time seeing the movie as well. He’d also read Sinclair’s book as I had after seeing the movie. Anyhows, he was a Stanford prof and definitely lib, but when I told him the oil barons, doheny et al, made it possible for the allies to win WWI, he told me it was a good point. Later, during the screening I asked a man sitting next to me, in at least his 50s, to please be quiet bc his talking at the screen was annoying. And he did shut up. Then after the movie he got in my face and said you don’t tell someone to shut the f up, very loud while waving his finger in my face. So I smacked his finger away and warned him to be quiet again. He looked like he was about to cry. I believe he was drunk and all his actions were for attention. Walking out I saw the prof again. He was smiling and told me the a-hole was another prof and had tantrums from time to time. I told him tenure was a hell of a thing…
So, this crazy wench wants attention of any sort to fill her sad empty life…
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It shouldn’t escape notice that at every turn of this agitation they assure middle America that they only want “X” and that it’s ridiculous and defamatory to say that they want “Y” or that “Y” will inevitably follow “X,” and then immediately after “X” is gotten they proceed in demanding “Y.”
In my living memory I saw first the agitation for hate crime laws to stem an alleged epidemic of Matthew Shepherd anti-gay murders, then the legal dismantling of sodomy statutes (as we were assured it had nothing to do with gay marriage, just privacy), then agitation for “domestic partnerships” and “benefits” as a compromise to avoid gay marriage, then the entire Democrat party denounce gay marriage and restate its commitment to “traditional marriage” while simultaneously pushing for “domestic partnerships” and scuttling an anti gay marriage Amendment, then demands for gay marriage, after that rogue Democrats granting extralegal marriage licenses, then repeated Court challenges and a United States President embrace gay marriage (which he had opposed in order to get elected), and now that victory seems imminent and after assurances that multiple spouse marriages would not follow, a push for normalization of multiple spouse marriages and an embrace of self-mutilating mental defectives.
The media agitprop and shaming pushed by YKWs (I’m just paraphrasing Biden here) was so comprehensive and unyielding that in under a few decades an utterly ridiculous notion that two men could marry one another became elite conventional wisdom. It’s horrendous and frightening since it’s hard to imagine what other ideas they couldn’t do this with on an even shorter time horizon.
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Thank god there were no children to be destroyed by her selfish, attention whoring “project.”
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Woman needs to be “Che’ ed”!
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I was part of the media and have some of these poly types as Facebook friends. To the letter, they all have the same beliefs. They’ll put out links to story after story supporting gay marriage, trans kids, and polyamory.
Anyone who disagrees with them is judgmental, a bigot, “hateful,” or living in the past. Or they “hate women.” So they have redefined the act of simply wanting a woman to be faithful as “hating women.”
This is a hard attitude to argue against. Hope you all can find some good counterarguments.
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Do you think there’s something cuckoldish about a guy who isn’t exclusive with his girlfriend and doesn’t mind if she’s not exclusive with him?
[CH: yes. an apex alpha male has side plates while his main dish stays loyal like a labradorable.]
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Looks as if she hit the wall more than once. I couldn’t tolerate even being in the same room with her.
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I am not so sure this is so horrible for men given the reality of the sex ratio that exists and will probably even get worse. Just because monogamy has been the norm for the past whatever years, doesn’t mean it has been the norm in human society over its history. The reality of mating systems has been that they are “fluid” and are a function of the prevailing “socioecology” of the time.
The book, The Red Queen lists the four commandments of mating system theory:
(1) If females do better choosing monogamous and faithful males, then monogamy will ensue, unless …
(2) Men can coerce them ( my edit: into either polygamy or monogamy, depending on the cultural system extant)
(3) If women can do worse than choosing an already mated male, then polygamy will result, unless ….
(4) Women can prevent their males from mating again, in which case monogamy will result.
There is little discussion over “polyandry” (polyamory is just a euphemism to “draw eyes away” from the “real” meaning of polyamory, one woman-two or more men) in human mating systems because it occurs so infrequently.
In general, it only occurs in a sparse ecological system, some desert or high mountain environment where it literally takes two or more men to “support” a woman, somewhere remote where some more powerful man would not come and “take” the woman. Often it is between brothers, a “time-sharing” arrangement with the understanding than when the younger brother is able, he moves off to become “prime” in a relationship with a woman, himself possibly taking on a “junior partner” in maintaining that woman.
And again this current blather about the subject is a hard reality of the current sex ratio and in the deflation of the roles in men in society. We live in a veritable “pussy desert”, with little constraint on women because women have such incredible Sexual Capital due to the reality of their scarcity, relative to the number of thirsty men. If the reverse were true, then women would be hunkered down in marriages, screeching over any deviation from monogamy. Woman want nothing to do with any system that doesn’t favor them.
Unless men can coerce them into it. (often a function of the “socioecology” extant at the time. And most of you have no coercive power at this time, not economic, not societal, not cultural, not sexual, and not physical).
That conservative women’s blog post about the lack of marriage that is going around listed 70% of men 18-35 are not married and 50% of all men 18-50. And while we men like to jump up and down on the couch about our Marriage Strike, the reality is that number actually a function of the motives of women more than it is some rebellion among men. A good chunk of that 50% of all reproductive age men would marry IF THEY COULD. Many men in that count are involuntary celibate, intractably so, often for extended periods of time, decades for some.
And this celibacy causes massive psychological damage in some. And in some cases, the damage is worse if the man had been in some relationship where he actually incurred the biochemical effect of bonding, then to be cast out, most likely into extended, possibly permanent celibacy. And the nature of biochemical bonding is that it punishes men for not remaining with his bonded mate in order to keep them near her to maximize the protective and supportive role of human males in child rearing. He gets reward from sticking around and significant psychological punishment for abandoning, whether voluntary or involuntary.
So then consider the hierarchy of women’s preferences:
(1) Marriage to George Clooney, no work, and lots of attention and Red Carpet opportunities as his wife.
(2) Part time job that pays 250,000 a year, she gets to wear cool outfits, deals with lots of people, and a rotating carousel of sexy men.
(3) Same job with access to George Clooney’s sperm on the side
(4) Being George Clooney’s second wife if the job thing isn’t possible
(5) Greater Beta husband with access to Clooney’s sperm
(6) Greater Beta that she is able to cuckold
(7) Greater Beta that coerces her into monogamy
(8) Normal job that allows her to pay the bills and ride the CC
(9) Normal job, kids and child support from an alpha
(10) Normal job, kids and child support from a beta
(11) Beta husband who she cuckolds
(12) Monogamous Beta husband and kids
(13) Normal job and cats
And then descending further down the list anything having to do with any of the lesser betas, deltas, gammas, omegas, which actually compromise now over 50% of males. And you will most likely slide down from alpha or greater/functional beta into one of these retched states with age.
It is easy to sit in youth, or some higher male status and look at men in some more wretched state, some pitiful, despicable groveling relationship status, and to feel scorn for them. But the trauma of isolation and celibacy is incredibly painful and damaging, both physical and mental.
Even in young men that will see better days as their SMV rises as they mature, this isolated state can functionally harm their amygdala, creating pathways in processing that never are truly forgotten, creating episodal memories of pain and dejection that limit the boy’s possibilities for future emotional development. A healthy amygdala responds to crisis and stress with viable action. An unhealthy one responds with coping systems, false realities, and a lack of mature response to challenge.
Both the animal kingdom and humans have ample evidence of male altruism in broadening sexual access for other males. The Wingman is perect evidence of this. Fuck, this CH page is evidence of this. Male dolphins gang up and isolate a female, and then rape her until she is fertilized, then allow her to rejoin the other females. Lion brothers cooperate to attack another pride and kill the alpha, taking the females. I described the situation with the brothers above and the one wife above. It is not only economic necessity that forces polyandry, it is the desire of the older brother to ease the pain of the younger.
When I was in the Marines, the scuttlebutt and lore was full of stories of buddies where one had hooked up with a girl. And he felt genuinely bad for his buddy and this almost argument would ensue where successful one would say “Man let me see if she has a friend.” And the other would say, “No, you go. I’ll wait her in the street for you.” And then the other would say, “Let me see if she’ll do us both, man.” “No, you go. I’ll be fine. Don’t fuck it up for yourself.” “No man, just let me check.” “No man, don’t be foolish.” I have known of gang bangs where one Marine would let his close bros fuck his girlfriend. And much the same sort of dialogue would ensue. The one commonality among all these Marines was the experience of long periods of isolation and involuntary celibacy. We knew what it felt like and our filios for our brother Marines was strong and to give others some respite from it seemed normal in the social contexts of that society. “Fuck a bitch man, you’re my bro” in a warrior society that valued each other over outsiders.
And this pussy desert we live in is both enduring and possibly a permanent wfeature of the social landscape for many, many years to come. We come here on this page together to assist each other in getting through it, to find some contentment, to alleviate pain through cooperation and knowledge.
It would take outlawing contraceptives and abortion, preferences to married males in hiring ( or at least the removal of threat of reprisal for not hiring females ), marriage bars as existed in first half of the 20th century to change the prevailing social and sexual climate to limit feral female tendencies. And even then it would take decades to instill some normalcy.
In the meantime, there will continue to be the alpha/beta divide, informal polygamy, bad sex ratios, and legions of involuntarily excluded men. You could argue that social acceptance of polyamory would only make this worse. Polygamy would be more prevalent than actual polyandry (one wife, two or more husbands). The RooshNMe female forum had already almost unanimously supported this idea, One alpha, multiple “sister/wives” binding together socially and financially where the “important” relationships were between the wome, the “sisters”, and the guy was just some aside. Of course the top most tier of women will completely refuse this status and demand Commandment 4 listed above, a total monopoly of dick, time, and resources.
And it is hard to say if this creates more and more lower status males condemned to isolation and resulting pain. Or if it just formalizes the current state of affairs.
For many men, marriage already sucks and is a lonely affair, with the rent of time, work, and money after kids come. Consider the possibility of “splitting the rent”. Of having a “brother” to outnumber that bitch. That when she went to bed (as they always do) earlier then men, that you have a bro with you to hangout, smoke joints, and watch sports. That on weekends when she is harping about Home Depot this and Target that, that you and your “bro” work it out so one weekends he plays that role and you golf. Then the next you switch. That when she gets all bitchy insane, the two of your bind together and shout her fucking ass down. Consider that maybe, with your combined incomes, that the stress and fear of the world was lessened, that the two of you could carry the “log of life” easier than one, that you have a true ally in way that a bitch may never be. Maybe the whole sex thing is different than what we think, that someone is always cuckolded. Maybe after years, the two guys say, “It’s your turn to go fuck her. I did it last time.” and the other guy says “Man, you done blown my high. We don’t we just don’t and say we did. I give you five dollars if you do it.”
Maybe, just like those Marines of lore, that if it is time to divorce someone, the discussion goes as it did about the hookup. With the two of you coming to the better option…
She goes.
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‘dja notice that the same folks who were emitting pictures of Traycon ===as a cute child=== are now flooding the airwaves with pics of Tsarnaev….. in his hunky days before his throat was shot up, and he lost the ability to speak due to an injured tongue?
Anything to keep those bad-boy-fantasy-lovin females tuned in…. advertisers want to speak to folks who spend their paycheck every week, not the ones who put it in the bank.
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The genitals do double duty —
Particularly the clitoris.
The popular notion that the clit is tightly sited just under the Mons is erroneous…
The legendary clit is a nerve structure that peaks there — but is not so limited. It continues unbroken as a neural network all of the way down and around the vulva — thence straight up the body — right between the rectum and the vagina.
Once this geometry is visualized most of the female sexual response falls into place.
1) The PRIMARY purpose of the clitoral neural network is to control shock during childbirth. The intensity of discomfort is so staggering that without the pain suppressing hormones released by the clitoris no woman could survive delivery of big-brained children.
2) The HEAVY BREATHING of childbirth is triggered by this very neural organ — which also fires off during other stimulus — ie the sex act. This is why the female is ALWAYS the super heavy breather — and continues to get wound higher and higher the more her clitoris is PRESSED.
3) The clitoral network is intensely pressure sensitive. This is to be contrasted with stroking, which is arousing to both breast and buns.
4) The ‘g’ spot and other manipulations merely duplicate the critical ‘stations of the birth’ that call for a fresh jolt of pain suppression / pleasure chemistry in the female brain.
5) The deep clitoris entirely explains why a fully aroused woman can climax during anal penetration — particularly when her mate is facing her, she’s massively lubed, and she participates by masturbation.
Such a thrust profile engages the ENTIRE clitoral network at the same time. Further, the penis — with its vertical bias — is driven, pulse by pulse, right along the deep clitoris almost replicating the dynamics of child birth. (Itself a pulse-wise enterprise: push, push, push, push, push… and so forth.)
Indeed, this freaky pleasure makes addicts of them all. Virtually to a woman, every porn starlet admits that this particular form of violation takes them to the limit. The gals really do climax — and insanely so — from such stimulus.
In professional porn pain killing drugs/ lubes are administered (edited out) so that even the pharmacology of child birth is imitated… particularly for an anal shoot. {See: Dana & Chloe}
6) Hence, all of the heavy breathing is triggered by the cross over between the clitoral response to childbirth and deep penetration during sex. The reptilian brain conflates the two.
7) Of course, it’s the same reptilian deep programming that compels the female into ever increasing submission/ passivity during the ‘wrestling match.’ It’s her reptilian response that causes the woman to be aroused by dominance displays of a primitive character — spanking and ‘body crushing.’
The latter takes the form of pinning the female — often via gravity — so that she can’t possibly get away. The female response is to go into total submission — and even further arousal.
This behavior is so primitive that it can be observed in shark ‘love’ — spiders — and mammals. Females simply ‘lock-up’ and take the jolts. This response is coded in at the ROM BIOS level of the organic brain.
It was coded in by natural selection about 500,000,000 years before present and survives as part of the ‘boot code’ for all sexual life.
8) This submission routine is logically embarrassing — as once the passion passes the female can’t explain to herself just quite what happened.
This ‘logical jump’ is unique to the female…
Losing track of where his erection is at does not work for the male. Quite the reverse is true. For the male, sex is an ‘in-the-body’ experience — hers. The more the male looks at his sexual conquest — the MORE aroused he becomes.
Which ties right back into why all men at all times want to screw the best looking babes to hand. This visual feed-back arousal loop is unique to the male.
For the female — staring off into space — typically with her eyes closed — is all for the best. So, his looks — at the peak of the affair — are actually irrelevant.
Indeed, some battle (dueling?) scars would not be unfavorable for his persona. {Tats are mock battle scars — this is their ‘charm.’ Tats on a female = total tramp … she’s been on the field of battle, all right…}
9) All of the above ties into the modern dilemma: our females are overfed to such a degree they can’t climax.
Elaborating: not only does the female benefit from slimness — she needs to have an empty colon to climax. THIS is why you never want to over feed a ‘date’ before taking them to the bedroom.
Her sex muscles, being directly related to birth contractions, and defecating, can’t really fire off when there’s inventory requiring circumspection.
This is compounded by issues of caffeine, cocaine and booze. Each, in their own style, screws up the screw.
This aspect is one reason why many porn starlets discover — to their amazement — that ‘dateless’ sex with studs that don’t give a damn about them personally — is the best screw they’ve ever experienced.
Other than a touch of cocaine, their systems are empty and clear.
(Cocaine is ruinous for the studs — as one may witness. Like booze, it sets the man on — yet takes off his performance. It’s the number one career ender in porn. Beware.)
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I’ve been married beta for many years, with children, and after reaching my limit of a sexless marriage, I found the Red Pill. Since then I’ve become less beta, and opened my marriage to get a sex life without leading a double-life, I’ve read a lot about polyamory, joined a polyamory discussion group, and have multiple mistresses…
The more I learn about polyamory, the more I see how it fits in here. It fills the Alpha Fucks/Beta Bucks hypergamic drives in whatever configuration the woman wants, and it fills the “poly” drive that all men want (and only Alphas can achieve).
Beta males involved in polyamory are trying to play fair, and don’t understand why they are getting a shitty deal. Given the availability of the red pill, I have a hard time believing polyamory will become/stay accepted as more betas take it. I speculate that this is how the feminine primacy implodes: Acceptance of polyamory makes it overt, unignorable, so shitty for betas that a mass of men take the red pill and start turning into alphas and stop taking the shit.
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It’s a book review, H. You didn’t point out that the reviewer (a guy) thought the book was exasperating and that Rinaldi was full of horseshit.
She had an abusive childhood too. Never woulda guessed it. /eyeroll
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i thought you were wrong as i’d read the article but didn’t check the link here
but i read this http://nypost.com/2015/03/16/i-bedded-12-strangers-in-a-year-with-my-husbands-permission/
and it’s an interview with her in case anyone craves more of her life insights
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This shit won’t last. We’re at the tail end of a self-indulgent social era, not unlike the roaring twenties that preceded the great depression. These behaviors are simply a cancerous outgrowth of a prosperous time.
My prediction is that within the next 10-15 years there will be a major war, probably a cyber war or some combination of wars that threatens our infrastructure. It may even be a civil war. And we’ll enter an extremely austere period where there will be witch hunts for anyone who promotes the type of luxurious indulgences (such as polyamory) that ran the country into the ground.
Let them have their fun now because it will be short-lived.
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i think you’re right about events (i think depression + likely wars) but i would disagree with the idea that what they’re doing is any fun. maybe it’s better than sitting in a basement alone (debatable) but these are very unhappy people we’re talking about, doing very unsavory things with very unattractive partners.
anyway, the cull will be satisfying to live through and i will look forward to doing my duty and re-taking-up polygamy and proper repopulation
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“but i would disagree with the idea that what they’re doing is any fun. maybe it’s better than sitting in a basement alone (debatable) but these are very unhappy people we’re talking about, doing very unsavory things with very unattractive partners.”
THIS^^^^^^^
the guys in scenarios like that for sure aren’t with the women they really want. they are settling for the bottom of the barrel because they don’t have options. but we all know they are really wishing they were man enough to do this:
http://www.returnofkings.com/58482/7-reasons-every-man-should-date-a-latina-at-least-once-in-their-lives
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funny that they mention loyalty. i had a latina girlfriend for awhile. she fit most of the descriptions in that post pretty well. especially the loyalty.
she didn’t dislike many people. pretty easy going other than an occasional jealous tantrum but if she thought someone was disrespecting me or treating me badly or if she thought i was wasting time on someone who she thought i was too good for. oh boy would she want to kick their ass. and kick my ass for allowing it.
she was always respectful and friendly to my family and friends even if she hated them for stuff they did to me. i know she did that out of respect for me because i cared about them. but even if she was always sweet to them, they for sure knew better than to bad mouth me in front of her. i think everyone just knew that she would have destroyed any one of them if i’d given her the okay…lol.
thinking about it now, i realize that she was actually a big part of my path to the red pill. she expected me to be a man who wouldn’t allow people to walk all over him. she didn’t just want that. she expected it.
not only was she was respectful and loyal to me but she also expected that same level of respect and loyalty to me from everyone else i dealt with.
unlike most western girls, she would never disrespect me in public. in fact, it was the total opposite. she would defend me to anyone, anytime even if i didn’t deserve it.
respect and loyalty were huge issues with her but ultimately that’s why we broke up.
she was working a lot and i ended up banging this skanky girl i met at a bar. she found out and was pissed that i would pick someone so trashy. that’s what upset her the most. not that i cheated but that i cheated with THAT girl.
she said if she’d been hotter than her or at least a halfway decent girl instead of slutty bar trash, it wouldn’t have bothered her so much. i actually believe her. i think she actually would have been okay if the girl had been a higher quality girl.
it was all about her feeling disrespected that i would pick someone like THAT over her. i think it lowered my value in her eyes and she had this messed up idea that if i could sleep with that girl i must somehow see her as equal to her in quality. or that maybe i even saw that other girl as being better than her. that was really insulting to her and hurt her pretty bad. couldn’t get her to understand that isn’t really how it works but we never recovered from it.
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“i realize that she was actually a big part of my path to the red pill. she expected me to be a man who wouldn’t allow people to walk all over him. she didn’t just want that. she expected it.”
funny how some girls can support you, bring out the best in you, and build you up like that while with others, you have to work on fixing THEM while also expending a huge amount of time and energy preventing them from breaking you down and destroying you.
shame about the break up, she sounded like a keeper.
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@88 good post.
“it was all about her feeling disrespected that i would pick someone like THAT over her. i think it lowered my value in her eyes and she had this messed up idea that if i could sleep with that girl i must somehow see her as equal to her in quality. or that maybe i even saw that other girl as being better than her. that was really insulting to her and hurt her pretty bad. couldn’t get her to understand that isn’t really how it works but we never recovered from it.”
When you really start to understand women you realize this is EXACTLY how it works, exactly how they think. She showed you some deep truth. Women are always competing against other women. She was totally right, according to her nature. What you showed her by getting a lower quality girl is that you make poor decisions and are lower sex rank / SMV than her.
Always go younger hotter tighter… She has to respect that even if it kills her. You gave her nothing to respect and she couldn’t live with not respecting you. Good lesson here.
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Sorry 88 but you lost a good one. She sounds the opposite of an American women.
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“unlike most western girls, she would never disrespect me in public. in fact, it was the total opposite. she would defend me to anyone, anytime even if i didn’t deserve it.”
that is for sure unlike what most western girls would do. there are some that aren’t too bad but i don’t it’s natural for most of them.
some degree of loyalty is still one of the first things i screen for in a girl though. after going out with a girl for a little while, i almost always try saying something controversial in front of her and some other girls. ideally in front of her friends or family. if she makes funny of me or argues with my point in a really disrespectful way, i will know what kind of girl she is.
it’s okay for a girl to disagree with me but if she is one of those who automatically defaults to name calling or sarcasm or some other rude behavior to try to make me look or feel stupid…especially when it’s in front of others, i know she’s not the type of girl i want in my life. if i’m going to invest my time in a girl. treat her right and have her back, she better do the same for me.
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And we’ll enter an extremely austere period where there will be witch hunts for anyone who promotes the type of luxurious indulgences (such as polyamory) that ran the country into the ground.
Provisional Government of National Restoration (PGNR) waits patiently in the wings.
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Funny, I was just thinking this morning that the period after the current cancerous elite and its regime is toppled and replaced with patriots will be known as “The Restoration.”
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The American Restoration Authority (ARA). If you haven’t read Gary Shteyngart’s “Super Sad True Love Story”, do so today. For CH regulars, this book, in which a nebbishy New Yorker pursues a Korean-American girl amidst a collapsing USA about 20-30 years in the future, has everything: an America sliding into irrelevance, alpha-beta-omega dynamics, the cancerous developments of social media, the increasing casualization of sluttiness… if a bunch of CH regulars got together to write a piece of speculative fiction that would illustrate the things we talk about, you couldn’t do much better than this book. Buy it. Read it. Pass it on.
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Making Up for Missing Out:
http://therationalmale.com/2015/03/16/making-up-for-missing-out/
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The nasty 3-way you describe was profiled exactly a few years ago on 20/20 or Dateline. One could predict the ugly meltdown when polybabe inevitably goes into menopause.
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As CH et al. have mentioned many times, condoning this kind of decrepit behavior is essential in unlocking the hypergamous sexual floodgates for women. Notice the emphasis on her lack of guilt over not raising any children too. If you don’t have any kids, don’t worry about it! Meanwhile, our elites will continue to import low-r types from all over the world.
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That’s actually a pretty scathing review for a reliably leftist rag like the WP. Seems at least one of them is willing to point out the absurdity, narcissism and callousness of the SiQ (Skank in Question).
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Agree – pretty well written and pretty funny review – excellent subtext too – this was the best line: “If exasperation could give you orgasms, this book would leave me a deeply satisfied reader.”
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This is really fucked up. These girls will be unhappy misfits as adults, if they aren’t already.
http://inthesetimes.com/article/17645/the-radical-brownies
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I’m amazed that isn’t from the Onion – the leaders are LGBTQXYZBBQ wymynz of color and giving out badges for radical self-love?
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Common Core Test: Only “Right-Wing Political Groups” Deny the Holocaust http://freerepublic.com/tag/*/index
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WHY is Bill Gates subsidizing this shiznat? Why does he so hate America and Western Civilization and Christianity??? Why is he working so hard to destroy us from within?
[CH: he never got over his locker stuffing?]
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Locker stuffing? Is that next to the turkey stuffing?
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Or could it be that he is exactly what he looks like and not what he claims to be?
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Who’d have thunk that some assembly code, written at the most opportune time in history, could propel a man to such heights?
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I looks to me like Gates became a SJW right after the government threatened to break up his company. Or it could just be a coincidence.
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I saw Gates on the jewbox recently. He looks really slumped over, depressed and unhealthy and in particular like he is high cortisol, high insulin and low-T. He needs to get onto T-ciprionate 2-3 times a week and get out into the sun and get some D3.
A guy like him could have his own endocrinologist and with that and a little exercise he’d soon be waking up with wood again. And maybe he’d stop being a feminized globalist bag of shit.
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Vape pens keep you from getting arrested. They also allow for a much higher concentration of cannaboids per hit.
The sex is mind blowing.
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Yikes, wrong thread.
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Holy wrong thread, Bat Man!
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Lolled
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Assembled – what’s the deal here?
So i’ve come across this pattern and looking for some input on how to optimize this kind of interaction. My game is 90% SNL only, no numbers day 2s etc. Extract or die, And always in new cities and venues, so limited to no social proof, circle, wings etc. Solo.
So this situation has happened over and over same thing different day… So last night was at a work event, late in the bar. Talking with a good 7. I am running some game on her mostly to make this other women I pulled at this event last year jealous. Last Year’s has been cool to me, so I am kind of amused. I think she wants me to chase her. I’ve said hello to her the other night but have otherwise just sat back. I am talking to this other girl and I can see Last Year’s whipping her head around every 5 minutes in mid conversation with some other dudes and looking at me. It’s pretty funny.
So I pull This Year’s over to a low couch, arm around her guiding her and sit down just the two of us. I am lounging back on it, arm spread on the back of the couch, she is sitting and turned towards me talking. Good postures ot make Last Year take notice. Eventually Last Year splits. So I focus more on This Year. And it’s good, I am doing some laser and some kino. She is fine with the hand holding and with my arm around her, at one point i pull her close so she laying next to me with my arm around her. we are getting into some rapport stuff. I am teasing her about her 70’s porn star hairdo and stuff like that.
But any kino on her leg, knee after like 2 seconds she just moves my hand off. she’s not rude at all, just lifts it off and puts it next to her leg. I’m cool, just keep talking and try again in 10 minutes etc. This goes on for a half hour. She is still fine with me touching her back and holding her hand, wrist arm etc. But not the leg. So after a while I’m like let’s go and she demurs, thanks but I can’t kind of thing, I’m flattered etc. I’m ok with it, just like Ok cool. But she reaches into her bag and gives me her card, tells me her cell number is on it. apologizes again and then says three different times I should call her, she gets to [City] once a week. really I should call her etc. etc.
And this is the pattern. has happened a bunch of times, where I get some kino going but the girl won’t extract but they force their number on me (I don’t do numbers so never ask or hint for theirs). Like they go to the bar and write it, their email and facebook etc on a piece of paper and put it in my pocket stuff. Last words are always like “call me, seriously, call me” etc.
So what’s the play here when I find myself in this situation, how can this be played better for extraction, SNL? Is it not enough attraction, too much rapport, ASD or what? I don’t think it’s a provider vibe, because I’m married, wearing a ring etc. It’s like the hamster is almost there but wants the “best” of both worlds, flirtation with a hint of more to come, but preserving the poon.
I’m all ears….
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For culum et al, just some random stuff that I liked this week…
Opened a 7 hiptser Starbuck’s worker in the shop, she was going around with one of those duster things and I told her she looked like a “demented fairy godmother” and this totally cracked her icy shell and she was laughing. reminder that girls just like fun and something unique. after I few minutes i tried to set a drink up with her and got the “seeing boyfriend tonight”…
Tall 7 mid 20’s at event, just some random negging. She shakes my hand like a man and I wince and make fun of her manly hand shake. she is like well I’m a woman that’s how we need to do it to compete. i tell her try it like a women and you won’t have to compete, here let me show you and take her hand and hold it palm down and say see soft, gentle feminine while holding it. she never pulls it away. We are in Hollywood so she wants to play the what actress do I look like game. I turn this around and make her guess me a few times, then throw out a fairly ugly girl for her that has some resemblance to her, Minnie Driver, she is just a little pissed and says she usually gets Katie Holmes… so I reach into my pocket and hen tput my hand on her chest just above her tit like I’m pinning something on her.she likes what’s that? I say it’s a Modesty award. damn. do it again and again and say funny it won’t stick… so she cracks up at this as well. she was leaving but grabs another drink with me but then has to go to client dinner, they pull her along. I see her the next night and she tells her friend I’m the guy who taught her how to shake hands…
Sit next to a tight bodied Minnesota girl, 7 – mid 20’s at the pool, she’s in a bikini, I’m nin pants and a shirt just taking a break. . Nice athletic bod, full C cups. great great Midwest eyes and smile. She’s at this event with her boyfriend. I start running some game on her and in a few minutes we are deep in conversation about her hopes and dreams, it’s early and she’s not drinking but then she joins me in a cocktail, I start seeding some boyfriend destroyer stuff, they met on Match.com, dated for 6 years, live together, all her family says he’s reaaaaaaalllly super super nice and I say well that’s not me I’m bad etc etc. So I’m starting to tease her about her relationship and why hasn’t he locked you down and stuff . and just starting to pull back the surface on why nice is bad for her etc. and he comes around.
And I feel bad for the dude. He is 30, 5’5, maybe 140 lbs and he is bringing her a friggin chocolate chip cookie… so we chat the three of us for a while and he is just a nice beta guy, clearly punching way above his weight with this girl, so props to him. I tease her by talking to him saying “Your fiancee here was just telling me all about you” and she cracks up at this, like an inside joke, he shoots her a shocked glance when i say fiancee… so I leave them be. Do wish i could have hooked this guy into the Chateau, he is going to need need need it.
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Meanwhile: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2998726/Anthony-Kiedis-52-takes-girlfriend-Wanessa-Milhomem-22-surfing.html
Lolzlolzlolzlolzozoz.
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“Anthony, who recently ended his two-year relationship with 20-year-old Australian model Helena Vestergaard…..”
Right on
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I love to dance with the 20-somethings. Really irritates all the old married women who fear that their husbands will follow my example.
The Black Knight of the Red Pill
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Dread Field Report:
After the dance-bonding fiasco, wherein the Gamer opened a can of Dread Worms, which Mrs. Gamer examined individually in detail, Mrs. Gamer has metamorphed from the Ice Witch into the warm, fun Sprite that the Gamer loves. The Gamer never stopped going out clubbing solo. Eighteen months of running Dread.
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My Clitoris Deals Truthfully In Sores
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“FACT: Most open polyamorists are hideously ugly. Polyamory is not the free choice of physically and psychologically attractive people.”
I’d say the people who are OPENLY running around yapping about their Polyamory are similar to all the gross fatties and old hags and chodes in BDSM scenes. They’re ugly and no one gives a fuck about them so they latch onto a label to make themselves “special” because it’s the only way they feel relevant/unique. So they’re annoyingly open about it because it’s basically saying “look how ugly I am, but I have permission to take mutliple partners and totally get them! And so does he! So really we may look like an ugly couple with low SMV but we’re actually ATTRACTIVE because we can sleep around with other low SMV fatties and uggos”
The people who make that shit work don’t talk about it because talking about it makes it not work. It’s behind the scenes shit. ‘Cause it works till the woman gets enough social pressure and judgement to not be cool with it anymore. No one socially pressures or judges the fat ugly Polyamory chick because hey she should take what she can get. But the hot girl will get shamed with “he should settle down with you, he doesn’t love you, don’t you respect yourself” because they expect her high SMV to land a man’s commitment…so the utmost importance is keeping this shit on the down-low behind the scenes.
Case in point: I don’t even know what “polyamory” is lol I’m pretty sure it’s what that reality show with the dude and the 5 fatass wives was, but I don’t know and I don’t care. Because I don’t need a label, I’m not looking to make an identity out of it or to define it to society, because it’s on the down-low when I do it and it’s between the girl and I because I want to keep as much social pressure off her as possible. So even if I’m out banging around and she knows it, I let her know that she can tell her friends and family that we’re a monogamous LTR and I’m her boyfriend etc., it’s fine, that keeps them off her back and allows us to continue a lifestyle that ultimately the girl is usually happier in (because I stay attractive and stay at the top of her Hypergamy when I have other girls on the go instead of a monoLTR where I just get fat and lazy and forget how to flirt with girls etc…so she gets a high SMV guy with my arrangement).
But the people who can sit around debating the nuanced definitions of polyamouros and monogamish and polyfidelity and shit, it’s like the people who are all “I’m a gender fluid queer transmorph bi-cuddle dragon”. They’re irrelevant and looking for an identity to give their existence meaning and specialness.
They look at “what label can I choose to pursue that will allow me to do things that make me happy?” whereas someone doing it for real looks at it as “I do what makes me happy, people can label it however they want I don’t care”.
It’s very very very hard for a celebrity to have an LTR where the girl bangs the guy and the guy bangs a bunch of girls, because their lives are under such scrutiny that the media will pressure the chick.
Gene Simmons banged a million chicks on the side of his marriage and his chick was probably fine with it…until he got cocky and made a reality show about his life and his philosophies on relationships and got caught on video fucking some chick and suddenly the entire WORLD is outraged on his chick’s behalf and social pressures her until he finally has to marry her.
Meanwhile Will Smith and Jada fuck around, Pitt and Jolie too, probably a bunch of other celebs since they’re all high SMV and working in emotional situations with people on different ends of the planet etc. But they’re smarter than Gene and don’t brag about it or get caught and bring a ton of social pressure on their woman.
Guaranteed in non-celebrity life, like the day to day all around you, there are TONS of relationships between hot people where one or both partners has permission to fuck around and the couple is blissfully happy with that arrangement. You probably know or have met a handful of people like this, but they keep it on the down-low and aren’t running around the swingers clubs and bragging over beers about it for props from their buddies (who will tell their own wives who will bring it up to the original guy’s wife and every other wife on the block and all socially pressure her into feeling bad about something she didn’t feel bad about till buddy slipped up and bragged).
You can do a one-way oLTR where you get to fucks other girls and the girl only fucks you, but you’re not gonna find the guide on how to pull that off on this week’s episode of “possibly gay dude and his 5 fat wives” lol
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Comment stuck in mod, plz approve!
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My comment is also stuck in moderation, like YaReally’s. I was among the first people ever to comment on this blog. Still not used to me?
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A man that sleeps around or takes on a lover while married is just being a man.
A woman that sleeps around or takes on a lover while married is a slut.
This is not hypocrisy, it is just the natural order of things, the way nature intended.
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Sex bots, or virtual sex of some sort will be reality sooner than later. Guarantee it. The demand is there and the profits will make someone or somebodys extremely wealthy, I predit make Rockfeller look like a pauper even. And women will cease to be of any real consequence. Men will never have to put up with them to get laid.
I know its been spoken of on this site before, but I’ll take it further. I’m not sure alphas will even feel like dealing with them after awhile. Think about it, do you think there will be any more wars? Even the crazy sand riggers will calm the F down. Only women will be left to fight wars… And I say, I hope so…
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Sad but true. I wanted to google “pederasty” to figure out what that means but then decided maybe best not to know.
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“…gay pederasty is next.”
And redundant.
[CH: true dat. but redundancy increases the funny quotient.]
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[…] A couple weeks ago, CH wrote: Mark my words, a massive elite push to legitimize and maybe even codify polyamory is next on the agenda. […]
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