• Home
  • Diversity + Proximity = War: The Reference List
  • Shit Cuckservatives Say
  • The Sixteen Commandments Of Poon
  • Alpha Assessment Submissions
  • Beta Of The Year Contest Submissions
  • Dating Market Value Test For Men
  • Dating Market Value Test For Women
  • About

Chateau Heartiste

Feeds:
Posts
Comments
« Turning Starcucks Into Starfucks
Comment Of The Week: #HateTogether »

Olga Game: How To Tame The Scrappy Minx

March 20, 2015 by CH

A reader passed along a screenshot of a text exchange he had with a girl he was trying to bang. He wanted to show how bratty this girl was behaving, tossing shit test after shit test his way, and wondered how he could eventually subdue her, wrest the brat from its chokehold on her id, and get her softly purring like a kitten.

Nick starts weakly. If you know the girl is a nuclear bitch, you’ve gotta make your first swing count. That pimp hand has to make an appearance early to set the tone of the conversation. Nick began like a normal human being, and quickly found out his politeness was ineffective. All his nod to courtesy did was incite Jessica to amazing feats of brattitude.

Right away she calls him Olga. For this reason, I call the style of game designed to tame tankgrrls, Olga Game.

Nick’s reply comes four hours later (he makes her wait as punishment for the ‘tude). He lifts a line straight from CH: “lol bratty mcbrattster”. So far so good.

She plays ball. Another five hours later, she replies “don’t question it hahaha” This chick has squared off with alphas before. I bet she has a clit piercing.

Nick answers two hours later, and amps the asshole a couple of degrees. He pulls out another classic CH line, “littlespoon doesn’t make the rules”. Too little, too late? We’ll see.

Jessica strikes back hard. She thinks she’s being funny, but her last text is tinged with cunty spite. Now I’m convinced that not only does she have a clit piercing, she has taken it up the ass.

I lost the original source for this reader submission, so I don’t know what happened next, or if there was an informative follow-up to this shiv-shaped badinage. All I can tell Nick is that he’s dealing with a hellion, which is bad and good. Bad, because she’ll eat you alive if you show a flicker of beta weakness. Good because if you get through her defenses with your pride intact, she will be the dirtiest slut in bed for you.

Olga Game is essentially script flipping. Girls like Jessica will expect you to continue your hard teasing banter, (and they’ll continue returning equally caustic parries); therefore, the way to win this battle… is to refuse to fight it. Take her mental hamster script and rewrite it. When she expects another emotionally arid jest, respond instead with a faux pose of sincerity, laced with a judgmental pique aimed at her inability to connect like a normal healthy woman.

Jessica Rabid: “no no I think you need to go put on a nice dress blah blah…”

Nick the Iron Dick: “sure, i’ll get on that as soon as you drop the act and be real”

This is thermonuclear script-flipping intended for a very specific audience and context. Gauge wisely. If a girl is a broken record with her endless bitch barrages of return fire, that’s the moment to think about deploying Olga Game. It’s shocking, and for the girl who is used to being shocked by assholes of varying degrees of state control, the “be real” plot change to the stale book of her dating life could be the shock that finally tames her.

Sometimes these sassy chicks get trapped by their own “I’m a tough broad” expectations, and lose the capacity to be emotionally vulnerable around men. Their hearts are as scarred as their vaginas. If you meet one of these girls, think about using that pair of high hearts you have up your sleeve. Make a feint toward vulnerability, however expertly faked, and the hardened trollop may soften up just enough for your penetrating id busters.

Just don’t be stupid about it. Don’t profess your attraction like some warrior poet. A little step back can mean a big leap forward. If she takes the Olga Game bait and backs off a little, you’ve got a chance with her. Now you’re no longer some “fun guy” she feels free to fuck around with because you’re “just another player like all the rest.” Proceed in this manner, extracting genuine emotions, but return to the previous script at inopportune times, like when there’s a sense that the conversation is veering close to sap. Unpredictability will slowly but inevitably switch the chaser-chasee roles into an alignment more favorable for the man’s romantic goals.

Share this:

  • Click to email this to a friend (Opens in new window)
  • Click to share on Reddit (Opens in new window)
  • Click to share on Twitter (Opens in new window)
  • Click to share on Facebook (Opens in new window)
  • Click to share on Tumblr (Opens in new window)

Like this:

Like Loading...

Related

Posted in Alpha, Game, Girls | 255 Comments

255 Responses

  1. on March 20, 2015 at 5:19 pm K

    Types of Women You Should Never Date. I’d say this girl fits into at least a couple of these

    http://m.positivemed.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fpositivemed.com%2F2014%2F12%2F16%2F7-types-women-never-date%2F#2856

    LikeLike


    • on March 23, 2015 at 12:41 pm 88

      good post

      LikeLike


  2. on March 20, 2015 at 5:25 pm Olga Game: How To Tame The Scrappy Minx | Manosphere.com

    […] Olga Game: How To Tame The Scrappy Minx […]

    LikeLike


  3. on March 20, 2015 at 5:40 pm Olga Game: How To Tame The Scrappy Minx | Neoreactive

    […] Olga Game: How To Tame The Scrappy Minx […]

    LikeLike


  4. on March 20, 2015 at 5:53 pm IHTG

    What a strange conversation. I could not tell who was supposed to be who.

    Also, “Olga”?

    LikeLike


    • on March 21, 2015 at 9:49 am VRW

      a couple of real wits here

      LikeLike


    • on March 21, 2015 at 3:00 pm Anonymous

      Chick tries to neg like a PUA, fails, news at 11.

      LikeLike


  5. on March 20, 2015 at 5:57 pm Kate Minter

    The proper response to this weirdo is: “Best wishes with your transition…” and never talk to her again. Honestly, guys. Are these the best women you can meet? If a girl’s a bitch, let her take a long walk off a short plank. Consider it training for the next guy she meets and NEXT!!!

    LikeLike


    • on March 20, 2015 at 6:09 pm Mr Meaner

      Why do you think a blog like CH even exists?

      Yes – these are the best women one can meet, because in Western society, these are, largely, the only women one can meet.

      LikeLike


      • on March 20, 2015 at 6:14 pm 88

        it’s true. most women are like this.

        LikeLike


      • on March 20, 2015 at 6:26 pm Kate Minter

        Then stop giving them the time of play. You’ll have to excuse me. I just came home from watching a the beautiful, feminist-obliterating Cinderella, and I want better for YOU!!!!!!

        [CH: ROI matters. if a few textual sleight of hands can turn a bitch into a hot sex spigot, it’s worth it. and, when the post-coital glow is worn off, payback in the form of refusing her commitment is still an option. all’s fair in love and whore.]

        LikeLike


      • on March 21, 2015 at 3:00 am Ang Aamer

        Kate, Kate, Kate… seriously like Meaner says.
        If the Olgas did not exist CH would not exist duh

        And this NAWALT crap from the female apologists is just so Vichy.
        In urban areas there are ton of Olgas yes we could all pack up and go to Ukraine, but we have jobs.

        If I were to say to you that Olga = ‘Female with Graduate Degree’ would that make it easier for you?

        And besides these chicks all crack eventually and when they do they are a good ride in the sack. Why argue with biology? If these arrogant tarts want to put their vaginas on a shelf as a prized possession. Do we as men walk away meekly from a challenge? They want to play this game. We are the ultimate big d!ck game hunters.
        But as you allude to Kate… Olgas are not really Long Term Relationship material AT ALL. And due to this Uber Bitch persona they have self selected to be a difficult Pump and Dump … but still are ONLY a Pump and Dump.

        LikeLike


      • on March 21, 2015 at 8:09 am glenbert

        I’ve certainly done my share of barrel scraping and still can’t relate to this batch weirdness.

        Also, anyone else picturing this guy reading from a printed-out PDF of text ‘game’ as he’s responding?

        LikeLike


      • on March 22, 2015 at 8:17 pm FilthyMattress

        “Also, anyone else picturing this guy reading from a printed-out PDF of text ‘game’ as he’s responding?”
        – @glenbert

        Yes, but, PDFs are so prole. I personally have illuminated Heartiste’s writings into a leather-bound vellum codex that I keep with me at all times.

        ‘Excuse me ladies, while I flip this script.’

        [CH: it is required.]

        LikeLike


    • on March 20, 2015 at 6:20 pm Captain Obvious

      I tend to agree with Kate. To put up with that much abuse, da beeyotch had better be a hard HB9+, and it would be strictly for anal only – no way in he11 would I risk having a child with a witch like that. If this is typical of what you guys cross paths with, then ditch the bars on Saturday night, and hit the Evangelical churches on Sunday morning. SRSLY.

      [CH: i wouldn’t say this is the typical girl that most men meet, not even in the blue cities, but this type of girl does exist in some number. it helps to have a game plan to deal with them on your terms, i.e. getting her to bed sooner rather than later.]

      LikeLike


      • on March 20, 2015 at 6:42 pm Captain Obvious

        I can see it as an intellectual challenge, and maybe just to practice your Game – using her attitude as a sounding board for testing your lines [and the delivery of your lines] – but for the sake of goodness, keep your wits about you, and don’t let down your guard and start developing feelings for a witch like that.

        [CH: a reasonable warning. it’s fairly common for former betas with some game to lose hand with sassy bitches over time because the betas couldn’t believe their good fortune and fell in love, or in uncontrollable lust, with these hellraiser chicks. ya gotta be ready and willing to walk and leave everything behind as soon as the heat turns the corner.]

        LikeLike


      • on March 20, 2015 at 8:36 pm JironGhrad

        Sadly, even Evangelical churches have their share of these. They hide it on
        Sunday, but nevertheless, it’s there.

        LikeLike


      • on March 21, 2015 at 6:25 am Captain Obvious

        I guess I’m lucky – maybe I’m living in Charles Murray’s Belmont, and y’all are dealing with the skanks in Murray’s Fishtown – but I do cross paths with a lot of really sweet, well-mannered, polite Evangelical chicks. [Unfortunately, I do sense the Prime Directive in all of them, and that they’d drop an egg in a heartbeat if they could get some of my seed, so I do feel sorry for their Beta husbands, but at least they’re POLITE about it.]

        LikeLike


      • on March 21, 2015 at 7:28 am deleted

        The comment about “anal only” reminds me of a comment we see with some frequency from CH/on this site that has solid historical/anthropologic basis: “Sperm is cheap. Eggs are expensive.”

        Except that that truism (like everything else) is now perverted and inverted by our “modern society”.

        I came (heh) to this conclusion some time ago. In a society where men can be forced to pay child support, even for unwanted children, until that child is an adult…. sperm is, by weight, far more valuable than gold. Indeed, it is the most valuable substance there is, as it carries with it tens of thousands of dollars worth of “child support”, which is actually “mother support” given how expensive it is.

        A triumph of feminism!

        ≠

        LikeLike


    • on March 20, 2015 at 9:51 pm Hymen Mingesky

      Yep, pretty much the only reasonable response. Unless you have some massive guilt complex, and think you deserve the suffering.

      LikeLike


    • on March 21, 2015 at 5:32 am Pyjama Wearing Ninja

      Kate, of course we can meet better girls than this, but the reality is that I don’t mind the girl being overtly an obnoxious cunt like this woman is being. I actually prefer these women to the covert cunts. This being said, these women have some benefits too, such as they are wilder in bed(while you can train good girls somewhat, it’s far more work; caveat: I’ve only fucked a couple of girls like this so it might simply be sampling bias).

      Another thing, if a girl is genuinely sweet, treating her like a little slut makes me feel bad sometimes. I know it’s for my benefit, her benefit and the benefit of whatever is between us, but the contrast between her general sweetness and how you turn her on and how she needs to be treated ‘bad’ can be mind fucking. So these women have their uses.

      LikeLike


      • on March 22, 2015 at 4:16 pm apollohaan

        Girls with galaxy class bitch shields are like that for a reason. After ten years of sliding down poles, she is doing her best to stop her hoeish ways. The hamster has fractured. One hamster fights to get off the CC since she’s “not like that anymore”, while the other pushes the “things just happen and im empowered”. The shit tests come hard and heavy due to the increased plausible deniability load, but if you pass them, you get her 10000 flight hour certified pussy.

        LikeLike


    • on March 21, 2015 at 1:12 pm Anonymous

      I have done this. Fun.

      LikeLike


    • on March 24, 2015 at 8:16 am Amy

      I know this is an old post, but….

      First, I agree with Kate. There’s a difference between playful teasing and a ball breaking bitch. She’s the latter. Second– if I’m being too much of a wiseass, the thermonuclear response that works for me even better than what CH suggests (which does work) is to say something like “stay classy” or “aren’t you delicate”. In other words, a jab at her lack of femininity. That hurts.

      LikeLiked by 1 person


  6. on March 20, 2015 at 5:58 pm Rude Awakening

    That’s a grade A rude cunt right there.

    “I’m more of a brad blah blah don’t question it”

    “Brad you’re more of a cunt…a rude one at that. I don’t question it.”

    Then silence and move on. Cut bait. No bitch is worth that nonsense.

    LikeLike


  7. on March 20, 2015 at 6:00 pm Laguna Beach Fogey

    Yeah, no thanks.

    Next.

    LikeLike


  8. on March 20, 2015 at 6:06 pm Mr Meaner

    This kind of stuff is standard fare with Australian girls, especially on Tinder, which is shit-test and flake central.

    Here’s a typical one I had recently, hot 24yr old blonde, I’d say a 9.5…

    Me: you look like trouble

    Her: Haha I must look like more trouble than I am. You look the same in both pictures

    Me: oh really? the second one’s my twin brother. double trouble.

    Her: What a coincidence… the second and fourth ones are my triplet sisters!

    Me: i was praying for that. so what are you looking for on here?

    Her: we got it yesterday so we’re finding out what all the hype is about. aka: heading on a road trip to america soon for 6 months…..soooo nothing really. you?

    Me: nothing as in, nothing serious?

    Her: Haha, why? Do you like to get around do you?

    me: let’s hang out a bit before you go to america. i’m pretty busy this week but next week could work

    Her: Yeah maybe. Depends if I still like you in a week though.

    me: depends if I still remember you in a week

    Her: Haha! Hopefully you will

    (three weeks later)

    Me: i vaguely remember you

    Her: Haha! Hey….I think I still like you!

    Me: how lucky for me. i’m free tomorrow night for a drink

    Her: I’m meant to be going to the movies with a friend, but she always flakes so I might be free.

    LikeLike


    • on March 21, 2015 at 4:28 am walawala

      @Mean Mr. Mustard….great exchange…I also have these texts…similar opener: “Behave” or “you look like trouble” or “hey trouble-maker” are good.

      LikeLike


      • on March 23, 2015 at 1:23 am Mean Mr. Mustard

        No; that was Mr. Meaner.

        Australian women are getting cuntier and more self entitled by the month.

        LikeLike


    • on March 21, 2015 at 5:39 am Pyjama Wearing Ninja

      “so what are you looking for on here?”
      Stop using that. Everyone and their mother asks that and her answer will never move the conversation forward. It’s not like she will say ‘I’ve been looking for your big dick, daddy Mr Meaner’. It will always be a bland boring response like hers.

      Otherwise I think you did really well. I wouldn’t say this girl is mean or obnoxious btw. Her shit tests aren’t really bad or offensive.

      LikeLike


    • on March 23, 2015 at 8:21 pm Some Bird

      I’m an Aussie too. I think you aced that interaction. To me that sounded pretty hot and sexy. She didn’t seem like a bitch at all, just having a fun flirty banter with you and you defo passed with flying colours.

      LikeLike


  9. on March 20, 2015 at 6:12 pm blart

    i agree with the others. who cares if you can flip the script on a girl like that? she’s not worth the headache. do not understand why guys waste their time on girls like this.

    and continuing to interact with her is just rewarding her for bad behavior. you give attention to girls when they are sweet, caring, and loving. you ignore them when they act like assholes. he’s giving her attention so she knows he’s still interested even though she treats him like shit. don’t see how that’s a good lesson in anything. that’s positive reinforcement used in the worst possible way.

    LikeLike


    • on March 20, 2015 at 6:19 pm 88

      like Mr. Meaner said, “in Western society, these are, largely, the only women one can meet.”

      this is the truth. most girls you encounter are going to be this way. most of them aren’t sweet, caring, and loving like you say. you’re living in a dream world if you think girls like that exist anymore.

      instead most of them are selfish, egotistical, and bitchy. that’s just how it is and we have to learn how to deal with these behaviors or we end up alone.

      LikeLike


      • on March 20, 2015 at 6:49 pm Mr Meaner

        I think what Kate’s missing is that game is the antidote to this epidemic of cuntitude. It’s the kryptonite of a bitch.

        When you flip the script on a bitch, and the next thing you know she’s on your bed with her knees behind her ears, there’s no greater satisfaction in life.

        After that, you can literally do what you want with her…. Fuck her again, or get rid of her.

        Call it taming the wild beast, call it sport fucking, call it whatever you want. Bitches like this are bored and complacent. Life is too easy for them. They need the reality jolt of game followed by a good hard fucking.

        Now, Kate, what was that about Cinderella?

        LikeLike


      • on March 20, 2015 at 10:47 pm B

        If enough men would just say ‘no’ that would change. If you want something to go away, stop buying it.

        This blog discusses the manipulations of hard-core six sigma outlier feminists on women as a whole to bring out the worst but like DeBeers selling diamonds it only works if men put up with it, adapt to it, and cater to it. If men say ‘no’ it won’t be successful.

        Women don’t want to be alone either and if this behavior resulted in that they would change and there certainly wouldn’t be so many women like that.

        LikeLike


      • on March 21, 2015 at 5:55 am Pyjama Wearing Ninja

        B, when you will kill all the dumbass betas that will give her validation without them getting sex, I will feel bad about hitting on her(rewarding etc) and actually fucking her.

        What irks me in my country is that so many cretin men pick up the tab for girls that even not so special ones sort of expect it. Even if I stopped rewarding these girls by ignoring them, they’d find plenty of pussy begging suckers.

        Which brings me to a story from a few years back. I decided I was bored with the girl I was with at the time and decided I should try my luck with this other girl I met, although she was the Eastern European equivalent of a Valley Girl. I figured she’d be fun to bed for a month or two. Ok, so she said she wants to go to this place, which was the most expensive coffee shop at the time in my city. So I decided that the chance of me replacing the girl I was currently with isn’t worth me bankrupting this stupid teenage girl(as I said, girls here expect you to pay).

        So we went there, I bought a bottle of water and the cheapest coffee(about $10, which is preposterous) and teased her and made her giggle and when I’ve had enough, I’ve put $10 on the table and said I have to go. She said she doesn’t have money to pay for her shit(she bought a frigging cookie beyond some fancy coffee and the like lol). I told her that it’s not my problem and I left. It felt almost as good as jizzing her face would have felt like. That facial transition from giggly fun to desperation was epic.

        LikeLike


      • on March 21, 2015 at 6:03 am Sentient

        @Mr Meaner – yes this. It’s a huge rush when you flip the script and have psychologically dominated a girl like this. I think that challenge – overcum – is what separates the thrill of the hunt guys from the pleasure of sex guys.

        And as meaner says it totally unleashes your dominance and assholery … Which of course is what she is begging for anyway.

        That said I still say these girls are the minority. Most girls are as blue pill as most guys and flipping between these nice girls and the birches is a challenge.

        LikeLike


      • on March 21, 2015 at 10:54 am B

        PWM, I have my own stories of these entitled feeling women and I understand the sporting aspects for short terms, but 88’s comment came across as being long term, ending up alone.

        Is ending up alone all that much worse than having to stay in game 24/7 until death? Let the game down briefly and it only costs a man half of his wealth, he gets all the debts, on-going costs, and ends up alone anyway. The alternative being this ‘beta’ existence of pay-check-to-pay-check debt loading and servitude? Alone doesn’t sound all that bad to be if those are the two options. Maybe it’s a distorted view of history but it seemed there used to be a good percentage of men didn’t mind being alone and independent and that probably kept society more balanced. A life at sea or trading routes or military adventures or whatever.

        Nature seeks balance and that’s probably why more and more men are dropping out. There’s a great imbalance and saying ‘no’ will correct it. If this continues, eventually women will have to rectify their behaviors and relationships with them will have to have benefits for men that justify the risks and efforts. Gaming, alpha, beta and such will continue as it has always been, but the middle ground that has shrunk into near nothingness these days will need to establish itself again if society is to survive in any sort of non sci-fi dystoipian nature.

        LikeLike


      • on March 21, 2015 at 3:14 pm Lichthof

        Mr Meaner – a stupendous post. Bravo sir.

        LikeLike


    • on March 21, 2015 at 4:33 am walawala

      @blart yes…and no. This bitchy act on the part of some girls is just that….an act by a girl lacking self-confidence who feels a need to project her insecurities onto you.

      If this is something from a girl I know, I usually just laugh it off…if it’s a girl i’m gaming who’s new….I usually hold my frame and then shrug it off…

      I had an exchange like this recently…I had said something

      Her: That’s stupid…you’re so stupid…

      Me: yup…

      Her; no that is really stupid, you’re stupid

      Me: I know I must be stupid to be still standing here talking to you….

      her: stops blabbing, I change the subject

      LikeLike


      • on March 21, 2015 at 7:09 pm blart

        get what you’re saying but i still don’t have interest in dealing girls like this. whether it’s an act or who she really is doesn’t matter to me. the behavior is shitty. and your example just reinforces my opinion on this. never had a girl tell me i was “so stupid” like that. not once. a girl said that to me and she would not get one more second of my time. instant next.

        LikeLike


      • on March 23, 2015 at 12:49 pm blart

        @walawala

        never had a girl call me stupid. not even once. that would be an instant NEXT if it ever happened. especially in a case like yours where there’s no reason to play along. she’s not your LTR, you don’t have kids with her. that’s unacceptable behavior from someone you barely know.

        don’t know where you guys are finding girls like this but i think you need to raise the bar a little or start operating in different social circles. you shouldn’t be encountering this so much and accepting it as the norm. it is not normal or acceptable.

        LikeLike


    • on March 22, 2015 at 4:20 pm apollohaan

      Starve the beast by withholding commitment. A few guys nexting her is hardly noticed and when it is, its hamstered away. Pump and dump + always be recording.

      LikeLike


  10. on March 20, 2015 at 6:35 pm Captain Obvious

    Scott Brown was on O’Reilly just now, and Brown said that when he was being sworn in as US Senator from Massachusetts, Joe Biden took the opportunity to feel up Mrs Brown. O’Reilly said that Brown should have taken his “swearing hand”, closed it up in a fist, swung hard, and broken Biden’s nose.

    LikeLike


    • on March 21, 2015 at 1:25 am Cortesar

      Mrs Brown is as ugly as Faux News and most likely as trustful
      Why are you wasting your time and incapacitating your brain?
      It is said in the Handbook of Sane Living that an hour of Faux news watching kills exactly 5687 synapses

      LikeLike


      • on March 21, 2015 at 5:57 am Pyjama Wearing Ninja

        The thing is, Joe Biden is known for feeling up women and making them uncomfortable. There are pictures of him doing that to at least half a dozen women. lol

        LikeLike


      • on March 21, 2015 at 6:22 am Captain Obvious

        PWN, O’Reilly and Brown were talking about the 2016 DEM presidential primary – mostly about Elizabeth Warren [since Brown ran against her in Massachusetts], but also Al Gore and O’Malley from Maryland – and they got to Biden, and O’Reilly started to make a joke about “Well, he’s got a career as a masseur ahead of him, but, ah, ah, well I can’t talk about that on a family-oriented channel” and Brown said, “You know, he did that to my wife, too” and O’Reilly was like “WHAT?!?” and then Brown told the story about the swearing-in ceremony, and O’Reilly said that Brown should have punched him.

        LikeLike


    • on March 21, 2015 at 9:25 am Tam the Bam

      Well-bred Victorian ladies wore a long hatpin, specifically for intercepting wandering hands. Like a chom it voiks.
      They very much did NOT rely on their menfolk to intervene in a “let’s you and him fight” way, as it would have been *undignified* for a gent to brawl with some greasy urchin even though he could have dispatched him with boxed ears, or a cut or two of the riding crop or cane.

      LikeLike


  11. on March 20, 2015 at 6:37 pm PA

    Back in my twenties I knew a guy who’s cut through the bullshit with a neanderthal act. A girl would start lightly shit testing and he’d ask “d’you wash your twat?” No girl expected dancing monkey banter from him after that and he got laid.

    [CH: yep, hard asshole game can definitely work in this situation. but it means being ok with the possibility of instantly losing the girl (and likewise, instantly winning her over). careless, reckless assholery can dynamite punchy pussies from orbit.]

    LikeLike


    • on March 20, 2015 at 7:05 pm PA

      Yes. And this would have to be congruent. Rock hard frame, which he had. Thinking back, this worked especially well on the girlfriends of the girl he’d ‘twat-nuke’. And there is a question of how do you apply this to texting, without blowing an unacceptable number of leads.

      LikeLike


      • on March 20, 2015 at 7:18 pm Captain Obvious

        Also the culture has become so coarse that it’s difficult to imagine what you could say to shock these gals. Speaking of which, are there any USA females who are NOT on RedTube or xHamster? It seems like there are MILLIONS of girls who are doing pr0n now.

        LikeLike


      • on March 21, 2015 at 7:17 am Philomathean

        And there is a question of how do you apply this to texting, without blowing an unacceptable number of leads.

        Three options: 1. ( . Y . ) 2. ({}) 3. 8=====D

        LikeLike


      • on March 21, 2015 at 7:53 am Greg Eliot

        Four options: 4) All of the above.

        LikeLike


    • on March 21, 2015 at 6:03 am Pyjama Wearing Ninja

      I was drunk with a friend in a bar after clubbing and we were just chilling before going home. This girl came there in the morning and my friend asked her if she wants a Cola. She said yes, he ordered another beer and a Cola for her and when the bartender put the soda in front of her, the guy asked her if she sucks dick. She, all offended, said no. So my friend took the soda back from her and said ‘then you don’t drink soda either’.

      Both me and the bartender snickered.

      LikeLike


      • on March 21, 2015 at 6:10 am Captain Obvious

        PWN, that’s pretty vulgar, man. And cruel.

        LikeLike


      • on March 21, 2015 at 11:24 am Pyjama Wearing Ninja

        I didn’t endorse it as game. It just amused the fuck out of me when I witnessed it.

        LikeLike


    • on March 21, 2015 at 9:32 am Tam the Bam

      Priceless. Sounds like Viz comic. Another classy dancer’s compliment is “Eeh, y’divven’t sweat much for a fat lass”.

      LikeLike


    • on March 21, 2015 at 9:57 am Anonymous

      can you explain why this works? is this just answering a girls shit with a vulgar non sequitur which instantly reframes?

      LikeLike


    • on March 21, 2015 at 5:31 pm PA

      can you explain why this works

      Not many can pull this off. It only works if it’s congruent as fuck with your personality. That guy was a 19 year old redneck, taciturn, always looking like he’s glowering and ready to kick ass (he was an easygoing dude once you got to know him). He said that with a tone of amused mastery. It made girls go “no yo diiidnt” and giggle. If it didn’t work on the girl he addressed, it worked on that girl’s girlfriends. Girls that age readily respond to hardcore playfulness.

      LikeLike


  12. on March 20, 2015 at 7:31 pm Singlebass

    I’ve been dealing with this exact situation recently.
    It became very tiresome and boring to have to constantly do battle/think 3 steps ahead/always be alpha/ etc etc.

    I told her I was sick of the games and for her to drop her tough-chick persona and be real for a change.

    She texted back and said I was being “high maintenance”.

    I immediately nexted her. I’ll never waste another second on this bitch.
    I wish I had gotten rid of her immediately when she started this crap.

    CH mentions ROI. Unless a guy can very quickly break through a woman’s ball-busting facade, the return will rarely justify the investment.

    As always….next. A thousand times next.

    LikeLike


    • on March 21, 2015 at 6:06 am Pyjama Wearing Ninja

      You should have answered her. I would have told her that I’m not the one that makes others deal with a fake persona in order to hide my own insecurities. Then cut all contact for a while and pretend nothing happened in a week or two. If she’s still cunty, next her then.

      Since you mentioned ROI, one more reply is cheap.

      LikeLike


    • on March 21, 2015 at 8:46 pm walawala

      @Singlebass I’ve done this…calling out a girl for her bratty behavior rarely works. The one time it can work is if she’s invested somehow. But if she’s in any way on the fence an ultimatum in my experience is too direct, she’s likely to bail and call you “high maintenance” just because her “logical brain” is in conflict with her emotional one which is driving this bitchiness.

      In my experience a far better strategy is to have several women on the go…and don’t allow yourself to be blue-balled.

      I sent a text like this to a girl who was tooling me: “say what you wanna say, ask what you wanna ask but don’t be a little baby bitch”

      She just disappeared. Then she started orbiting me again but by then I had realized that it was a waste of my time to follow her.

      I’ve just managed to reverse a girl who flaked and started seeing another guy just by maintaining my frame, employing a proper bf destroyer, disqualifying myself as a suitor “I think i’m too much of a free spirit for you…” and then agreeing and amplifying an insult she sent me.

      Girls….hotter girls especially love drama and they also have a need to control romantic situations by betacizing guys into following them.

      The only thing that has prevented me from falling into oneitis and my former ways is “abundance”.

      Directness works better in person than text because you can stare into her eyes and deliver what you want to say in a firm tone.

      LikeLike


    • on March 23, 2015 at 8:26 pm Some Bird

      @singlebass, you saved yourself years of having to constantly prove your worth. These type of broken women find equally broken men because they both want the avoidant person (it’s a sick type of push /pull).

      By you NEXTing her you let the assortive mating happen while you find someone who is just happy having fun and making unbelievable memories with you…she will find the broken guy and they will both be miserable together (it will be on and off for a while until he will eventually tire of the drama).

      LikeLike


      • on March 24, 2015 at 10:57 am blart

        THIS^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

        LikeLike


  13. on March 20, 2015 at 8:07 pm Dudester

    “Their hearts are as scarred as their vaginas.”

    hahaha beautiful!

    LikeLike


  14. on March 20, 2015 at 8:21 pm Anonymous

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-03-20/us-begs-russia-remain-%E2%80%98swift%E2%80%99-one-bank-fails-again

    LikeLike


  15. on March 20, 2015 at 8:28 pm Putin

    I am convinced that the women who has made a pass at you and been rejected has no greater scorn. Her bitterness knows no bounds.

    LikeLike


  16. on March 20, 2015 at 8:39 pm Sentient

    Watch Mystery here level this girl with the exact same technique – time to get real game… It works. You just need to time it exactly right, while attraction is still high.

    LikeLike


    • on March 20, 2015 at 9:56 pm llllooooolllzzzzzlllolll

      Ok I see how its necessary when the oportunity presents itself for the sake of the infield footage to bother with a cunt like that, but that girl is a 6 on a good day. And her voice is masculine and grating. So many of the women in these infield videos, from all of them, are not worth the effort. Theyre whatever looking and cunty. I have yet to see an infield video that wasnt clearly staged, feature a 7+. Tyler goes for every girl, and his “fun guy” schtick obviously works, but Im still waiting to see game work on model.level girls, for an average looking guy. Why dont they tey on these girls? Or is Ross Jeffries hogging them all looooooooooooooool

      LikeLike


      • on March 21, 2015 at 7:40 am Philomathean

        I just can’t get into it this deep. This is why I have no interest in becoming an expert practitioner of Game. It seems too manufactured, but I can understand the thrill would be not be unlike landing a big sale or hooking a fish.

        LikeLike


      • on March 22, 2015 at 7:18 pm King A

        “Olga game,” “routine stack,” “I could deconstruct nuances for hours…”

        E fucking gad. The dungeons and dragons crowd never went anywhere, they just adopted a new “game.” Hard vorpal neg +20!

        LikeLike


    • on March 21, 2015 at 12:08 am YaReally

      Beautiful work. I could deconstruct the nuances going on in this vid for fucking hours. His calibration to the shifting dynamics between them and to her reactions/tests/etc. is brilliant. There’s a LOT going on in this that people who don’t understand Mystery Method won’t pick up on.

      LikeLike


      • on March 21, 2015 at 1:01 am Cortesar

        “Deconstruct for hours”
        Is that possible?
        We all know you as a man of few words,
        your conciseness is almost legendary

        LikeLike


      • on March 21, 2015 at 3:25 am Coy

        N00b request … plz write 😦

        LikeLike


      • on March 21, 2015 at 6:13 am Sentient

        You should do it Ya. I’d dismissed Mystery as too far in the past then more recently starting looking in more detail at his stuff and found out that when my game ran great it was totally in synch with Mystery game, sans fussy hat.

        This video didn’t even make much sense to me a year ago but after I had this exact same result – DDB adoration/hot sex -after flipping the script on a bitchy lawyer it all opened up, and the Mystery was solved…

        I’ve since found Mysterys stuff to be much more in synch with my natural state, much more than RSD for instance.

        Would love to read your breakdown.

        LikeLike


      • on March 21, 2015 at 7:22 am Philomathean

        Yup to all this

        Lol

        LikeLike


      • on March 21, 2015 at 10:29 am Culum Struan

        @Sentient – I actually find this video quite hard to follow because it’s hard to see their facial expressions (although the big grin and DDB look on her face by the end is pretty obvious).

        I took a Mystery Method bootcamp almost ten years ago (before my LTR stalled all Game development for many years) and I recognize a lot of standard MM lines from there, but still had a lot of trouble following it (as opposed to the Cajun Keys to the VIP video which was epic – I think the filming was just better on that one)

        LikeLike


    • on March 21, 2015 at 4:43 am walawala

      “I love the antagonistic attitude…”

      “Before you rudely interrupted me…”

      “If I’m wrong I’m wrong….”

      “Is she always like this??”

      Brilliant

      LikeLike


    • on March 21, 2015 at 5:51 am been busy babe boo

      Sick video. Mystery is a master. Check his vibe and pace at which he talks. Combine that with his verbal game and it’s just unfair lol

      Scrolling through the comments and relieved to find a post about game tut. CH’s reply and analysis is really good on different levels and eye opening. I’d think of A&A, don’t take it serious/personal (which CH reply does) but also proactively grabbing the frame like that should really moves things forward

      LikeLike


    • on March 21, 2015 at 3:37 pm Lichthof

      Looking at the video -I could never be bothered talking to any bitch like that. I’m quite successful with women, I just talk to them make them laugh but I don’t go to great lengths. All women are social climbers so look and talk a bit arrogant, feel superior to them – make her feel inferior and get the tone across that your are special – and it is a pleasure for her to be in your company.
      I’m blond and can really play the arrogant Dutch type and am totally prepared to walk away at all times.

      Check out this clip from The Business with the tall Dutch guy with the pointy nose walking through the club – the pace of the walk and the eye movement. I walk like this in a bar/club – works a lot of times.

      http://www.metacafe.com/watch/an-nkqHbJmbuh7m2/the_business_2005_the_dutch_arrive/

      LikeLike


    • on March 22, 2015 at 7:43 pm King A

      W T F ???

      This is not what you mean by game. It can’t be. No.

      Reedy voice, that fairy je-ne-sais-quois Canadian attitude, trying hard to keep up conversational momentum with interchangeably plain women using inane, halting, quasi-buzzed banter.

      I didn’t think it was possible, but my respect for the chumps who live and die by unremarkable bar talk like this has diminished even further.

      I’m more sad than anything. I should have been content to live in my fantasy that the Pooahs were raising up wayward nerds into potential men. But no, I had to click on the YewTewb and find reality much worse than I had the possibility to imagine.

      Okay, maybe you haven’t ever done better than this. But hasn’t everyone seen better than this? Enough to know how excruciatingly awful this most famous, pioneering mPUA is compared to, say, your run-of-the-mill, slightly chubby funny guy at the fraternity?

      It’s potemkin villages all the way down. Gahhh.

      LikeLike


      • on March 24, 2015 at 7:10 am Culum Struan

        King A – this post is genuinely funny. I actually laughed out loud.

        LikeLike


  17. on March 20, 2015 at 8:43 pm themanofmystery2

    “No, I think you need to put on a nice dress, shave your back hair etc…”

    Here are 3 possible replies:

    Reply #1: So, imitate your morning routine?
    Follow up: just kidding, I’m sure you Nair your back hair AMIRITE

    Reply #2: the only thing that’s going to be “toasted” is you after I’m done with you

    Reply #3: You just turned my outtie into an innie 😦
    Follow up: just kidding, it’s way too huge for that.

    You can be very overtly flirty and sexual with these types of broads. See: suspected masculine digit ratio.

    LikeLike


    • on March 20, 2015 at 8:49 pm Tilikum

      Good, but i’d have flipped it back at her:

      Her: “No, I think you need to put on a nice dress, shave your back hair etc…..”

      You: http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-9EjMoFTwVJY/VNt-vXCHmMI/AAAAAAAAADo/y1X0yzMwIYg/s1600/image%2B(27).jpg

      LikeLike


      • on March 20, 2015 at 11:01 pm themanofmystery2

        I did!

        Reply 1: flip the script jokester jerkboy
        Reply 2: reframe to sex
        Reply 3: reframe to sex / overconfidence

        LikeLike


    • on March 21, 2015 at 3:41 am Kate Minter

      Alright, I’ll try to get into the spirit. This is something a female friend used to use. She had worked in sales and was pretty good at the psychology of game. She would ask something along the lines of “Is this behavior normal for you?” It tended to shut men up, but, on a woman, it would probably unleash the hamster, which you would just ignore for a while and eventually reply “You’re a weirdo, but I’ll meet you at x on y at z.”

      Suggesting someone is not “normal” or “weird” has a way of confronting people without using expletives that puts them on the defensive.

      But if you’re planning to not reply again,
      “You’re weird,”
      or “You’ll have to do a lot more than that to impress me,”
      or “I hope you kiss better than you talk,”
      or “How ’bout shutting up,”
      or “Only if you shave your chest first”
      or “Men don’t turn me on”
      or “Are you a Kardashian? Wait, don’t tell me.”
      or “Don’t you find feminism is a crock?”
      or “Too bad you can’t cook” (h/t Firepower)
      I guess would suffice.

      LikeLike


      • on March 21, 2015 at 8:17 am Pyjama Wearing Ninja

        Are men there that bad? ‘normal is boring. i could never be with a boring girl, so tell me something spontaneous you did’ or something along those lines. Hangover so not really feeling it atm.

        LikeLike


      • on March 21, 2015 at 10:15 pm Anonymous

        I’ve got no use for hard women. It’s a thrill to approach and attract a woman and I enjoy doing that artfully. Many, many many women have thrown cold water on my intentions – and even more have played along for no other purpose but sharpening their claws. But they’ve done so sportingly – which emboldens me to keep approaching other women until it’s rewarded.

        The species of ball cutter depicted in this post is drain on my reserves of dignity – Since taking the initiative falls to me – I opt to preserve that dignity at all costs. Moreover, if this is her default social dynamic it attests to a coarseness that will appear elsewhere, and repeatedly. If she’s bored with her dating life – there’s a reason. Fixing that is not worth the toll it takes.

        Bitch bears her teeth and has her hackles raised – you don’t offer it your hand.

        LikeLike


      • on March 23, 2015 at 3:04 pm K

        “The species of ball cutter depicted in this post is drain on my reserves of dignity – Since taking the initiative falls to me – I opt to preserve that dignity at all costs.”

        THIS^^^^^^^^

        does no one around here have any pride or sense of value in themselves? whether you flip the script and/or keep her coming back for more or not, wasting time on a girl like this is just a display of desperation and low value. not something to aspire to.

        “Moreover, if this is her default social dynamic it attests to a coarseness that will appear elsewhere, and repeatedly. If she’s bored with her dating life – there’s a reason. Fixing that is not worth the toll it takes.”

        exactly. girls like this are NEVER worth the effort it takes to get them to behave in a reasonable manner. even when the effort is minute.

        LikeLike


    • on March 23, 2015 at 1:35 am Mean Mr. Mustard

      What about:

      “You mad?”

      LikeLike


  18. on March 20, 2015 at 8:44 pm Tilikum

    Agree, he started weak ESPECIALLY since he likely had a clue she was a shitbird.

    I always text “Hey it was good to see me!” and let it run. Go hard up front, then switch it up, show some range.

    Any way you look at it it’s a long, long road to Lady Bit Junction so might be best to leave her to the pros.

    LikeLike


  19. on March 20, 2015 at 8:46 pm themanofmystery2

    Does anyone else notice how shitty and try-hard these women come off as in banter? Witty definitely isn’t the proper descriptor.

    LikeLike


    • on March 20, 2015 at 11:32 pm Benson

      Cat gifs and other wordless responses seem appropriate. I think that approach would be more effective than trying to go toe-to-toe with her all day.

      LikeLike


    • on March 21, 2015 at 8:18 am Pyjama Wearing Ninja

      What’s interesting is that they come off this way because they act like beta men. Overusing hahas, smileys and so on.

      LikeLike


    • on March 21, 2015 at 9:32 am Laguna Beach Fogey

      It’s just sarcasm and snark, which amusingly they confuse with wit.

      It’s even worse with American girls, who can barely speak the language in the first place.

      LikeLike


      • on March 21, 2015 at 8:47 pm The Spirit Within

        A course in wit should be made mandatory for all high school freshmen.

        LikeLike


  20. on March 20, 2015 at 9:00 pm SuperFucker!

    Where to begin… Ugh….

    First, there’s no “Nice meeting you”. Ever. It’s not fn sincere. You don’t know this girl, and she doesn’t know you. You’re both out to see if there is some mutual benefit to knowing each other. That’s it. So be honest about that, and skip straight to the invitation. “you free tonight?”. Or, better yet, call her and start getting to know her over the phone.

    Second, she has a lot more experience than you (Nick) do, so she sees right through your borrowed lines. Because of the weak impression you left when first meeting her, she thinks you’re her bitch. You should have been screening her when you meet her, not trying to impress her.

    Third, why are you playing along with her text games? Do you really have nothing better to do? She’s dragging you down into this tween smartass banter and your going right along with it. Assuming there was some sincerity in your sweet, sweet acknowledgment of how WONDERFUL it was to meet this cunt, the proper no-BS reply to her asinine text was to ignore it and ask her out. Period.

    Never, EVER tell a girl it was nice to meet her. For all you know she’s going to steal all your money and ruin the rest of your life. Always maintain a wait-and-see attitude.

    And go do something valuable with your life so that your relative worth is truly greater than hers and you don’t have to fake it by borrowing other people’s one-liners. That’s the long term solution. Do something that makes your nuts grow. Every day.

    LikeLike


    • on March 20, 2015 at 9:59 pm llllooooolllzzzzzlllolll

      Its hard to truly change habits, even thinking habits. Maybe he was a badass when he got the number but his inner whimp was clawing to get out. Texting in general I beliwve should be avoided unless its with your friends. My fucking scumbag ex boss used to text and i hated that shit.

      LikeLike


    • on March 23, 2015 at 11:59 am Reco

      Could you elaborate on this? I agree about the nice meeting you. But what about “screening” her? Good looking loser talks about this but I still don’t quite get it.

      What is screening and how do you do it? What does it look like in this context? Is it just an attitude or is there a more practical application of it?

      LikeLike


      • on March 23, 2015 at 12:49 pm Sentient

        GLL is all about screening… Basic stuff, IOI’s from her to you, her body language when you are around her, how close she is etc. and how receptive she is to kino. Grab her hand and chat with her and see what she does, if she tries to pull away. Basic kino compliance stuff. You can also screen for interest by dropping conversation completely and dropping threads of conversation and seeing if she re initiates conversation or picks up on the dropped threads. All this basically shows she has high interest in you. So this is all part of IOI game, you see an IOI and you pull/push on it and not ‘waste time” with no IOI.

        It’s very efficient but you miss out on lots of girls you could have turned on via game.

        and http://www.goodlookingloser.com/entry/in-field-videos/a-night-of-screening-women-in-the-bar-scene

        which explains it.

        LikeLike


      • on March 23, 2015 at 12:51 pm Sentient

        this is the video, don’t know how that other one copied…

        LikeLike


      • on March 23, 2015 at 12:54 pm Sentient

        Try it one more time…

        LikeLike


      • on March 23, 2015 at 12:55 pm Sentient

        Reco for some reason the link changes in WP. Go to this page and hit it… http://www.goodlookingloser.com/entry/in-field-videos/a-night-of-screening-women-in-the-bar-scene

        LikeLike


  21. on March 20, 2015 at 9:11 pm Ricardo Rocco

    Every girl is just like this bitch. Especially down here in Florida. You either find mudsharks or wiggas(ers) that don’t deserve 1 second of any man’s time. If and when you come across a girl who’s worth gaming you can bet your lucky stars there are 10 beta wiggers right on top of her playing the try hard card. I thank god every day for coming across this blog. Total eye opener.

    LikeLike


    • on March 23, 2015 at 12:02 pm Reco

      I tend to agree with this. I am down here in all the cities and women seem to be much more hardcore down here.

      Florida is a fucked up state.

      LikeLike


  22. on March 20, 2015 at 9:18 pm Olga Game: How To Tame The Scrappy Minx | Reaction Times

    […] Source: Heartiste […]

    LikeLike


  23. on March 20, 2015 at 9:26 pm Danindc

    CH usually gives great advice but Bratty Mcbrattster is really gay and unfunny. Been done to death. Sounds like Ross from Friends….not good.

    Also, how does Mystery do so well w ladies when he sounds like a homo? Serious question.

    LikeLike


    • on March 21, 2015 at 6:20 am Sentient

      Ha… Mystery is Paul Fucking Bunyan compared to the RSD guys… Tyler, Todd, Alex, Julian etc…. Women don’t look at guys the way guys look at guys… They can smell paper alpha a mile away. Your eyes will give you away, what’s behind them.

      LikeLike


      • on March 21, 2015 at 11:54 pm Danindc

        Ok I’ll take your word for it. But how does sounding like a homo help you bed women?

        LikeLike


    • on March 22, 2015 at 10:48 am Anonymous

      It’s not how you sound that matters, that’s the point . It’s your frame. Your confidence and the subcommunication of that confidence in your body language and the pace at which you are speaking. its non supplicating, and that is a dominant frame.

      Put another way, when you are dominant you don’t hurry, you don’t worry about what you say or what the other person is thinking about what you say. You just exist. Game is the tool to convey that attitude even if you don’t feel it.

      LikeLike


      • on March 22, 2015 at 10:49 am Sentient

        That was from me.

        LikeLike


  24. on March 20, 2015 at 9:29 pm yo

    its easy man just do like the dealers do
    just stick a needle in that chick
    she will be begging you to get her more for rest of life
    put her in the system she will always be available

    i woulnd’t do it but a certain group of people have no problem doing it
    this is what you need to warn your kids about if you have any

    LikeLike


    • on March 20, 2015 at 9:33 pm yo

      if you have kids also take em down to the courthouse and have them watch other kids not much older than them get their lives ruined
      prob a good tactic so they know reality not imagination only
      yea ive said it before but shit man it bears repeating

      LikeLike


      • on March 21, 2015 at 9:02 am Erudite Knight

        That’s a decent idea

        LikeLike


  25. on March 20, 2015 at 9:48 pm Hymen Mingesky

    Why bother? Can any of you explain what the point of having sex with a souless creature is?

    [CH: because if she’s hot it feels good? just spitballing here.]

    LikeLike


    • on March 22, 2015 at 7:54 pm King A

      Because that’s how lawyers are made.

      LikeLike


  26. on March 20, 2015 at 10:14 pm bear

    I’ve always been known as a blunt asshole, thus I’ve never experienced such cuntiness from a woman . That said my response after the Olga part would have been ” are you trying to be funny?”. That would have knocked the chip right off her shoulder. In all honesty, who would even want to fuck such a cunt when there are many beautiful feminine women out there who wouldn’t act this way.

    LikeLike


    • on March 23, 2015 at 2:42 pm 88

      “In all honesty, who would even want to fuck such a cunt when there are many beautiful feminine women out there who wouldn’t act this way.”

      my thoughts exactly

      LikeLike


    • on March 24, 2015 at 11:05 am theasdgamer

      Reply “KYDJ”. When she asks what that means, “Keep your day job.”

      LikeLike


  27. on March 20, 2015 at 10:24 pm Drunkricky

    “Charming” and “Try harder” are better replies.

    LikeLike


  28. on March 21, 2015 at 12:05 am YaReally

    smh smh smh

    “soulless”, “cunt”, “bitch”, “abuse”, “rude”, “headache”, “sick of the games”, “next that bitch”

    What the fuck am I even reading? This is just embarrassing. A bunch of “badass alpha dudes mastering the art of seduction” who can’t handle a minor PLAYFUL shit-test? Is it April Fool’s?? What the fuck site am I on?? Is this HUS??

    This chick is lol’ing and playing around having some fun. A “rude bitch” isn’t even responding to him, or is responding telling him to fuck off, not joking around with him. This is just minor flirting. Holy fuck loosen up a little and quit taking yourselves so seriously. That dude who posts the Elliot Rogers wingman pics should be having a field day in here, plenty of angry bitter wingmen to go hate women with lol

    Sentient’s Mystery vid linked up above is basically a must-watch. If you’ve read Mystery Method and understand everything he’s doing and the routines he’s using and the amount of calibration he’s using to tame that chick who’s giving him INFINITELY more direct shit than this little Olga text exchange, there’s a ton of valuable shit you can learn from that clip. He knows exactly when to play along, when to toss it back at her, when to have a “it’s time to be nice” moment, when to punish/reward her, when to stare her down, when to engage her friend and ignore her and play them off eachother, he’s stacking multiple open-ended routines and conversation threads, he’s throwing routines/stories that DON’T hit and then dropping them and switching threads because he’s calibrating to that and searching for the crack in the walls. It’s beautiful art. A lot of it would sound retarded in a logical transcription of it viewed through a male logical frame, but he’s playing her psychologically/emotionally flawlessly.

    Regardless of how hot you think the chick in Mystery’s vid is, the guys crying in this comment section would never be able to turn her around like that if they get this butthurt over a little playful shit-testing. Handling this kind of chick should be laughably effortless to you if you’ve got tight game. The phrase “this bitch isn’t worth the effort” shouldn’t even come to mind because disarming a girl like the Olga chick or Mystery’s chick should be such child’s play to you that you don’t even classify it as “effort” or “work” at all. Guaranteed that chick purrs like a kitten sweet as honey for him as his fuckbuddy, all of that shit she throws is just to weed out the guys who have no game and would dry her vag up.

    It’s like the Manosphere’s definition of “game” has morphed into “don’t ACTUALLY learn anything about female psychology, just go lift bro and then bitch about how cunty women are and then go stand around hoping that the sweetest nicest 10 in the world comes over and begs to suck your dick and make you a sandwich off the word “hello”, and if it doesn’t happen then she’s a stupid bitch and a rude cunt and you better Next her to really teach that bitch a lesson while you preserve your ego.”

    Just brutal.

    You know WHY this chick acts like this? Because she’s trying to weed out the chodes who take themselves too seriously and it WORKS, she would have screened out 90% of the dudes in this comment section and saved herself wasting her time on guys teetering on the edge of blowing a man-tantrum over their hurt feelz that a girl is goofing around.

    I don’t even know how to explain how insignificant this kind of thing is. What I’m reading is basically a bunch of grown men doing the equivalent of “what?? That 5yo girl giggled and called you a doody-head?? Next that bitch man, she’s disrespecting you, you better teach her a lesson, what a rude soulless cunt!!!”

    This isn’t “oh man YaReally will put up with so much abuse just to get pussy he’s a pussy-beggar don’t you have any standards letting these cunts disrespect you YaReally??” This isn’t ABUSE lol if you legitimately view this as abuse or disrespect, like, you’re so far off from the right headspace that I wouldn’t even know where to begin explaining how silly that mindset is lol

    LikeLike


    • on March 21, 2015 at 12:20 am yo

      prob best that ya can really hope for man every guy i knows life has been eaten by a woman
      cept mine yet

      LikeLike


      • on March 21, 2015 at 12:24 am yo

        getting with chick in us like a reverse lottery ya lose every week even if ya win

        LikeLike


    • on March 21, 2015 at 12:56 am anonYmous

      I know a lot of Brads and you are by far the most handsome. Did you play college ball?

      Heh. This is trenches stuff. Has IOI all over it. I live for this kind of stuff. When i get this kind of banter i fire texts back rapidly. It’s important to show my quick wit. Now she thinks the guy is thinking long and hard on his replies.

      LikeLike


    • on March 21, 2015 at 1:38 am SuperFucker!

      It’s not necessary to work as hard as mystery is in that video. First of all, she sounds drunk. Second, he’s taking a long, long time to connect with her emotionally, which is what she clearly wants. Yeah he’s teasing her and taking her on a ride, but he’s not hitting the right buttons soon enough.

      And she’s an average-looking girl, so all the PUA tactics are overkill. If he toned down the jerk stuff she would have trusted him sooner, and the chemistry wouldn’t be so forced. It’s painful to watch.

      LikeLike


      • on March 21, 2015 at 3:50 am YaReally

        “he’s taking a long, long time to connect with her emotionally, which is what she clearly wants.”

        Doesn’t matter what she wants, she has to EARN an emotional connection. She’s too hostile at the start to have earned a higher value guy WANTING to connect with her. The mistake a lot of beta AFC dudes make is the girl has done nothing at all to earn them except look hot and the guy is going up “so where are you from? cool that’s cool, so where do you go to school? oh cool, what are you studying? oh ya that’s a good course, I’m taking–”

        He deflects her shit and lets her spin herself out, then confronts her head on with silence and staredowns till she’s in a sweeter state and not testing as hard (notice that he only gives her shit when she gives him shit, when she’s sweet he’s sweet, he’s consciously subtly training her in the moment, look for the pattern in the video), THEN he gives her a deeper connection.

        Same shit as the dog whisperer lol, you don’t pet the dog when he’s excited and out of control, you ignore him until he calms down and THEN pet him.

        He COULD get rapport earlier, but she hasn’t EARNED it so it wouldn’t mean anything. This is heavy push/pull and qualifying her making her invest before he lets her have his interest.

        Is it overkill for an average girl? Sure, but you run this shit on a smokin hot girl and she’s going to be demanding your phone to put her number in because she had to invest in winning you over.

        Guys these days just want to Pull Pull Pull, with no Push. This is the type of game that has the chick stalking you because you made a huge impact on her and she had to invest in you.

        LikeLike


      • on March 21, 2015 at 3:51 am YaReally

        got a response in mod. It’s about building investment on her part.

        LikeLike


      • on March 21, 2015 at 7:01 pm RedPillMinarchist

        Mystery’s video is NOT impressive. Well, maybe for 2006 or so. But not for now. RSD Hotseats are MUCH more impressive. Little dudes like Tyler, Todd, Alex and now f**king Max are far better AND quicker than Mystery. Hell, Julien’s infields are far superior compared to Mystery’s.

        YaReally, you are holding a torch for an older form of an art form that has improved. Mystery Method is old and outdated. Game has evolved. Analyzing this video is a waste of time. You’ll get more out of RSD Max’s hotseat than studying Mysteries routine and neg method which was developed in the mid 90’s.

        LikeLike


      • on March 23, 2015 at 11:22 pm YaReally

        Stilllllll in mod

        LikeLike


    • on March 21, 2015 at 4:29 am Tim

      Agreed YaReally

      LikeLike


    • on March 21, 2015 at 4:51 am walawala

      @YaReally I agree with what you’re saying. If the girl is still standing in front of you…and spouting crap…she’s interested.

      Two interesting learnings to share. The 27 year old…I banged her hard last night. She came over, brought me some “gift” she won at her company dinner she was hosting…was texting to make sure I knew she was still coming over after I landed from my business trip.

      Why? Because after I called her out after seeing her with some guy and employing the bf destroyer (I saw you with your cousin, were you babysitting?’

      She launched into some remorse about “let’s meet up” to which I replied: “As an aging sex addict I need to know what remaining time I have left is well spent”. she immediately apologized said she would behave. Two days later, I then texted the return flight details. She showed up.

      Second case is my crazy ex gf has started hovering….She approaches me at the club, she invites me to dance….and then she runs bitchy game on me to push my buttons.

      I just laugh. The other weekend I dj’d a party and invited her to dance. She kept complaining about the sound quality:

      Her: “You’re the dj fix it…”

      Me: You’re a genius…you fix it…

      Her: It’s all buzzing

      Me: That’s Jim Morrison’s ghost, he keeps jumping from speaker to speaker, (Snapping my fingers) see…gone…

      Girls don’t shit-test and banter with guys they’re not interested in. If they’re not interested in them…they act “nice”…

      IF you cave in and start apologizing or getting frazzled, you’ve lost.

      These are two key learnings….you can show a flash of impatience or sarcasm but don’t lose your cool.

      LikeLike


    • on March 21, 2015 at 8:23 am Pyjama Wearing Ninja

      I don’t think she’s particularly bitchy either. She’s just horrible at flirting, almost bordering on autism level social ineptitude. lol

      LikeLike


      • on March 21, 2015 at 9:55 am radagast

        yep she’s just dumb af. not being a bitch hence the qualifying “hahaha’s” everywhere

        LikeLike


      • on March 21, 2015 at 3:07 pm Anonymous

        Trouble is, this nimrod thinks she’s the female Oscar Wilde. If a chick can actually make me laugh then that’s another story.

        LikeLike


    • on March 21, 2015 at 9:23 am Laguna Beach Fogey

      When there are easier, sweeter alternatives, it’s very easy to “next that bitch.”

      LikeLike


    • on March 21, 2015 at 7:07 pm ER

      “the Manosphere’s definition of “game” has morphed into “don’t ACTUALLY learn anything about female psychology, just go lift bro and then bitch about how cunty women are and then go stand around hoping that the sweetest nicest 10 in the world comes over and begs to suck your dick and make you a sandwich off the word “hello””

      Wrong again Yareally… the definition of Game is now just three little words playas, say it with me “Beeeeeeee – Emmmmmmm – Double UUUUUUUUU”…

      Now sarge bitches!

      LikeLike


      • on March 21, 2015 at 8:40 pm The Spirit Within

        It’s wrong that I laugh at your damn posts, but damn they’re sideways funny…

        LikeLike


    • on March 21, 2015 at 10:24 pm Tilikum

      Betas here posting and elsewhere posting, deserve to be loved, like women, for who they are. Not as we want them to be.

      LikeLike


      • on March 21, 2015 at 10:35 pm PA

        That, or… it’s not that betas deserve love. It’s that normal men expect a baseline level of class from females. Things like not stinking, not cursing, not being fat, not cursing like a man, not being repellent. “Expect” not in the sense of any entitlement.

        Sure, it’s normal for a chick to cold-shoulder an ordinary suitor. Its “expect” in the sense of expecting the sun to rise in the east, the sky to blue or grey, the water to be drinkable, and young women not have leathery souls and vaginas.

        LikeLike


      • on March 22, 2015 at 8:36 pm King A

        It’s that normal men expect a baseline level of class from females. Things like not stinking, not cursing, not being fat, not cursing like a man, not being repellent.

        But everything stinks in Fishtown.

        There is a faraway land inaccessible to many men who can only dream of such unicorn behavior, where women are instinctively horrified by uncleanliness of body and spirit. It’s called the middle class.

        LikeLike


    • on March 22, 2015 at 8:32 pm King A

      Sentient’s Mystery vid linked up above is basically a must-watch. … [a dozen lines of excruciating analytical clutter] … It’s beautiful art.

      Your epileptic pep talk combined with that eight-minute video advertisement for celibacy makes me want to exhume Elliot Rodger’s corpse and catapult him into your five-roommate, five-story walk-up.

      LikeLike


      • on March 22, 2015 at 9:32 pm YaReally

        Looking forward to your helpful in-field vids! 🙂

        LikeLike


      • on March 22, 2015 at 10:25 pm King A

        Right after you post yours, breaux!

        To give you a FLAVOR of my mad mPUApexAlphaMOG skills in the meantime, here are my mentors laying down some beautiful art for you to pore over “for hours.”

        Can’t wait 4 ur post analyzing these real social dynamics, if they’re not too real 4U lol lol lol. Hope it doesn’t caught up in mod lol. 😦

        LikeLike


      • on March 22, 2015 at 10:40 pm YaReally

        lol that was awesome. Half of that shit would work, I gotta write some of these lines down.

        Deadpanning “Excuse me, I need you to move so I can get by. I need a lot of room because my dick is so huge. That’s why I walk funny, ’cause it hurts, my thighs are just smashing into it. Very painful.” would be a great opener. Sets a sexual frame right away and clearly exaggerated enough to not be taken seriously.

        “It would be my pleasure…trust me, I’m BIG on pleasure. (fake cheesy player facial expression). Probably too big for YOU to handle, midget.” to a short girl would be great in the Attraction stage. Disqualifying her in a fun way.

        “You wouldn’t, not with your tiny brain.” would be great lol I already use a lot of “that’s because you have a tiny girl brain, shh, just be pretty and think about shiny objects” teasing that goes over great.

        That was great, see it’s not that hard to post useful things when you want to. 🙂

        LikeLike


      • on March 23, 2015 at 10:35 am Greg Eliot

        A glimpse into the world of YaReallyDumb(lol), courtesy of our modern purveyors of (ahem) culture.

        One of the hallmark insults of my day was “You can’t insult this guy”, meaning the fellow was too dense to know when he’d been lampooned… or he so totally corrupt, that he took the need for being heavily reproved as a mark of honor.

        The shoe fits… and you, um, playas wear it well.

        LikeLike


      • on March 23, 2015 at 9:58 pm King A

        Exactly. You know how you become satire-proof? By deliberately making yourself into a satire before anyone else can.

        It’s not that he’s unaware his cult is being spoofed. I’m sure he is.

        The problem is that he can analyze a parody as easily as the genuine article, using the same tools, and getting the same results. The whole milieu is indistinguishable from its send up. Criticism against pick-up — even pick-up extended to the extremes of parody — just proves how great pick-up is!

        A text exchange can’t just be a mediocre communication between two people looking for the same thing, it has to be declared a whole new category called “Olga Game.” Carrying on about your big dick can’t just be an amusing little act on a comedy show, it also “sets a sexual frame right away” and proves game’s thesis once again. You see, pick up science is everywhere. Notice, students, how the outgoing and funny guy attracts women! Be like him!

        In other words, we can be confident that most of the self-reported data which they collate and from which they draw their universal conclusions is exaggerated at best, flat out misleading at worst. If that weren’t the case, they would be better equipped explaining why a behavior is funny (and thereby teach their charges how to imitate it effectively) rather than simply noting, again and again and again, that wit and confidence tends to attract women. Like that guy, or this guy, and that guy.

        The Pooahs betray the disingenuousness of their method in the tendency to compose both sides of the script in their advice. “When you say X, she’ll say Y.” Not coincidentally, the great triumphs of game are demonstrated by movie scenes.

        The point is really driven home, though, when you get to compare their unverifiable reports to examples of their non-scripted “action” — as in the Mystery clip above, or any of their videos, really. How the community delusion mutually reinforces itself becomes clear.

        If they were honestly seeking a better science, they would elevate their failures higher than their successes, since the former yields more easily discernible information. And they would be obsessive about the method’s limitations rather than its magic effectiveness in every circumstance. Right now they take after Homer Simpson: “O beer. Is there anything you can’t do?”

        Matt

        LikeLike


      • on March 23, 2015 at 11:18 pm YaReally

        @Greg
        I’m sure your buddy Mugsy burned a bunch of knuckleheads with his scathing insult before you guys hopped on your scooters to head down to the malt shop to read some 10 cent comics. Have you seen the latest Archie? It’s a hoot, Big Moose is so dumb Reggie said you can’t even insult the guy! Lololz

        @King A
        Lol there’s plenty in that clip that wouldn’t work, I didn’t realize you two spergies needed those parts explained. I could also break down exactly why those things that work would work and why “a behavior is funny”. But you keep crying when I explain things and now you’re whining when I don’t. YOU’RE TEARING ME APART!!! So indecisive, just like a woman.

        Mysterys vid is a good example of consciously executing pre-planned routines to turn around a hostile set. There’s lots of good game out there but the point of the vid is how executing the basics with solid calibration works.

        I could post a bunch of RSD infield as usual to show game working, but I know that fucks with the narrative you keep trying to paint. I’m still not sure why you try to tell guys who go out and use game with success regularly that game doesn’t work are you sure you wouldn’t be happier on Jezebel? lol

        It’s almost spring, you should try leaving your house this spring and talk to some girls! They’re lovely creatures.

        LikeLike


      • on March 24, 2015 at 11:38 am The Spirit Within

        YaReally: Matt King is threatened by the idea of leaving the place where he’s most powerful: his keyboard.

        LikeLike


    • on March 23, 2015 at 6:17 pm Anonymous

      Disrespect is still disrespect.

      LikeLike


      • on March 24, 2015 at 11:07 am theasdgamer

        Sure, like when your toddler head-butts you in the balls.

        LikeLike


  29. on March 21, 2015 at 1:03 am Donohoe

    Most girls are like this nowadays. I’m a 19 year old Brit from the UK and this is average behaviour, seeing my country fall apart around me in a giant sweep of girls who have been fucked in the ass by guys like me

    LikeLike


    • on March 21, 2015 at 1:36 am Cortesar

      So you are 19 years UK ANALyst who analyzes Britain decline?
      We all understand your predicament as well as the rotten state of modern Britain analysis
      If it was not for young people like the Empire would have been doomed

      LikeLike


    • on March 21, 2015 at 3:39 am anon dudebro

      So that’s why you guys are pursuing little kids nowadays

      LikeLike


      • on March 21, 2015 at 7:55 am Greg Eliot

        Nowadays?

        LikeLike


      • on March 21, 2015 at 9:58 am Tam the Bam

        No, that’s exclusively the pastime of the Compulsory Diversity, and the Ruling Class.
        Us plebs don’t get a look-in at the sports of the masters, too good for the likes of us.

        LikeLike


    • on March 21, 2015 at 10:01 am radagast

      true, remember going to london and being shocked at how americanized/doomed the young women were.

      LikeLike


  30. on March 21, 2015 at 3:19 am Daily Linkage – March 21, 2015 | The Dark Enlightenment

    […] Olga Game: How To Tame The Scrappy Minx | Chateau Heartiste […]

    LikeLike


  31. on March 21, 2015 at 4:07 am OhMy

    Jessica Rabid: “no no I think you need to go put on a nice dress blah blah…”

    Nick the Iron Dick: “back hair sammich comin right up, would u like some cock cheese with that sir”

    LikeLike


  32. on March 21, 2015 at 4:44 am nicksleftball

    “Somewhere down in FL your Nanna just shed a tear.”

    LikeLike


  33. on March 21, 2015 at 5:04 am walawala

    Don’t look at what a girl says, look at what she does…

    He uses the “bratty mcbrattster” line on her at midnight.

    She replies with some nonsense…at 7am—basically the minute she got the message when she woke up…

    To the guys who blow girls like this off…you really have to calibrate your game and learn how chicks think.

    Do girls who hate you respond immediately? They’re trying to say “I’m interested..keep going”

    LikeLike


    • on March 21, 2015 at 8:29 am Pyjama Wearing Ninja

      I think the problem people here have is that they expect girls to have the same social aptitudes they’re expected to have and that’s silly. The reality is that most pretty girls get by until their mid 20s just by being pretty. They’re often dreadful both intellectually and at flirting because they’re simply not challenged to develop anything about themselves.

      I think her interest was obvious from how she was overusing hahas and smileys too, not just from the promptitude of her responses. I don’t even think she was trying to shit test him here, she was just trying to be playful and failing spectacularly. lol

      LikeLike


      • on March 21, 2015 at 10:42 am Greg Eliot

        I don’t even think she was trying to shit test him here, she was just trying to be playful and failing spectacularly. lol

        Yup… this is what passes for a woman’s “sense of humor”.

        LikeLike


    • on March 21, 2015 at 11:32 am stained class

      @wala

      in regards to your comment, don’t look at what she says, look what she does..

      this text exchange between the ex and i happened all within 6 hours. i took my time responding back – yet she won’t respond back. either she didnt get the text, or it got too real.. or she was just being polite??

      what’s your take.

      so this is what transpired between my ex and i after 2 1/2 weeks of no contact

      me: hey, ill be in t.o. for a while. taking salsa classes and joined a shooting range, you should come sometime. I just got back from a trip across canada. had an experience while traveling that has completely changed my life.

      her: Salsa classes? That’s interesting and surprising.. Shooting range would be fun. Get some internal anger out.
      The experience must have been pretty epic eh..

      me: yeah it was. i’ll tell you about it when I see you. hittin the range soon, whats your sched like?

      her: Well im pretty busy with my new job and stuff. What’s yours like?

      me: i can do friday or next week sometime. is there a time you can find to lock down? you have to book in advance at the range

      her: Can I even shoot a gun though…

      her: Don’t you need a license?

      her: I work a double Friday. I’m exhausting myself so I might call in Saturday.

      me: i’m off at 5 on saturday, so let me know if you decide to call in

      i last texted her 130am fri morning – a half hour after she texted me. she didnt respond saying she’ll let me know etc..

      LikeLike


  34. on March 21, 2015 at 7:25 am stuttie

    That Mystery clip was poetry in motion. I’ve read Mystery Method and used it in the field with good success, but he absolutely nails it.

    I can’t wait for Ya master breakdown – but you can actually pinpoint the moment she knows she will fuck him @ 6.18 and cements it with kino @ 6.25. Almost like ‘well done’ dude pat on the back.

    What a great clip – it has sooo much going on. A master class.

    LikeLike


  35. on March 21, 2015 at 7:29 am Torn and Frayed

    Instead of flipping the script, I would make her own this part she is playing She’s acting like an alpha male so make her continue with this personae, since all an alpha male ever wants is sex, which strangely enough is exactly what I am after….

    So in response the the sandwich quote I would have said something like, “yeah and then you’re going to expect me to give you mouth service while you watch the game?”

    This will either kick her back into her traditional sexually defensive position or more likely, she will escalate which could lead to at least an interesting text exchange

    LikeLike


  36. on March 21, 2015 at 8:01 am glenbert

    So, if I have no desire to date a goofy woman like this or to be this unoriginal of a man, what information can I really take from this example of text ‘game?’

    LikeLike


    • on March 21, 2015 at 9:35 am radagast

      “so, if i can take no information from this example of text ‘game,’ what information can i really take from this example of text ‘game?’

      LikeLike


    • on March 21, 2015 at 10:42 am Greg Eliot

      This is why Machete don’t text.

      LikeLike


    • on March 22, 2015 at 8:42 pm King A

      Stay away from junior colleges, porn sets, and trailer parks.

      LikeLike


  37. on March 21, 2015 at 9:15 am Orlov

    Olga? Zavali yebalo.

    Then radio silence.

    LikeLike


  38. on March 21, 2015 at 9:47 am Tam the Bam

    Still wouldn’t leave my wallet, phone or car keys anywhere Hairphobic TankGrrl could find them. Has a “desperate resentful opportunist” smell about her that I can’t quite pin down, no matter how high her HBscore. And I would absolutely never ever let her find out where I live, or work.

    LikeLike


    • on March 21, 2015 at 10:44 am Greg Eliot

      I got the same impression that this bish was a bit off…

      … I wouldn’t even leave behind my scent.

      LikeLike


      • on March 21, 2015 at 3:49 pm Laguna Beach Fogey

        Or even an impression.

        LikeLike


    • on March 23, 2015 at 10:29 am Anonymous

      You unintentionally nailed it. What a delightful, fuel injected hamster wheel reply: “I love the smell of your desperate resentful opportunism the in the morning..”

      LikeLike


  39. on March 21, 2015 at 9:48 am Mario

    Hey guys , need help there with some of the side orbiters…How do you flip the passive aggresive + compliment craving call :

    “blablabla about how date was good….then…Call me when you want to go out next time, I dont want to bother you.”

    Overgaming ? However, I dont like idea of falling for this trap. Been confronted with it multiple times, so its likely common chick ammunition.
    Obviously, no hamster feeding about “not bothering”. But how to counter the attempt at flipping the chasing script. So far, ignorance or b-day cats work well, sometimes, I drop random order “Im out at XX , be there at XY oclock” and I rock the date. Any ideas to tighten the game here?

    Thx for advice

    LikeLike


  40. on March 21, 2015 at 9:51 am radagast

    just want to point out that although nick bounces back somewhat admirably, guys should know that ‘heh’ is *such* a better response/neg setup than ‘lol.’ lol should be used sparingly and in certain contexts.

    pro tip: the godfather of them all is the smirk emoji. an entire week’s worth of heartiste material could be dedicated to the smirk emoji without overkill.

    LikeLike


  41. on March 21, 2015 at 10:57 am Rejected Princess

    OMG, I want Jessica to be my BFF.

    LikeLike


    • on March 21, 2015 at 6:07 pm Greg Eliot

      Damn it, Bel Riose/Stillicho/whatever… just pick a monicker and stick with it.

      LikeLike


      • on March 22, 2015 at 3:10 am Rejected Princess

        I have no idea what you’re talking about.

        LikeLike


    • on March 22, 2015 at 9:38 am Greg Eliot

      It was a good-natured barb directed at one of the village idiots here…

      … alas, yet another jest fallen flat!

      LikeLike


      • on March 24, 2015 at 1:30 pm theasdgamer

        Like certain incel d1cks, bro.

        LikeLike


  42. on March 21, 2015 at 12:23 pm Mario

    I think Nick is not doing bad at all. Olga puts more effort , while he keeps it short and sets the frame. However, I dont see such ho as a prize worth more than a couple fux. Id go B-day cat, then eject and keep her shelved.

    LikeLike


  43. on March 21, 2015 at 12:34 pm Aspie Nerd

    Actually it’s not clear that she’s calling him Olga: Nick could pretend to think that she’s correcting him about HER name:
    “i thought your name was jessica”
    (I adopt Nick’s minimalist writing style.)
    That gives her an opportunity to backpedal,and it’s also a neg. (“I’m not even sure what your name is.”)
    If she still tries to be clever then I’d not answer at all, let her think it over.

    LikeLike


    • on March 21, 2015 at 5:49 pm earl

      Yeah I caught that too. She could have just been naming herself Olga for whatever reason. We can tell later on how crazy she is.

      LikeLike


  44. on March 21, 2015 at 7:43 pm Sentient

    FWIW – to the OP my go to script flipper is simple and works in most circumstances – “we’ll see how you play your cards”…

    Flips the script, puts you in assume the sale position and her as chaser….

    so “Your not kissing me/fucking me” – “We’ll see how you play your cards”

    “I have a boyfriend” = “we’ll see how you play your cards”

    “I don’t mess around with married guys” = “we’ll see how you play your cards”…

    Etc etc.

    don’t worry that it might not make syntactic or logical sense… that is not the test here…

    LikeLike


  45. on March 21, 2015 at 10:40 pm walawala

    @YaReally, Sentient, Kant et al wanted to share a thing I’ve been doing for the last 6 months regularly with positive effect. I call it “Post Card Game”…

    Instead of trying to come up with clever “ping” texts for girls I’m gaming who may be luke warm or who I want to long-game I will send a photo of some interesting thing I’m doing.

    Last week I sent these out and they consisted of shots of my massive steak dinner, an ice cold beer I bought on draft, etc.

    I send these to girls often just with one word….”Grrrrrrrrrrr”

    If the girl is keen, she starts asking “Where are you?”

    If she’s kind of on the fence and sends: “Yummy” I gauge interest based on time of response and frequency.

    It’s a great way to calibrate….and there’s nothing I’d be embarrassed about in the “Jumbotron” test….or if as some other poster here suggested, she showed it to another guy or her friends…they’re just “postcards” NOT goofy emoticons. They often show some curious aspect of my travels or life.

    This is a way of engaging or pinging just to keep me on her radar while I’m busy with something else or gauging interest.

    I was gaming a girl like this last year. It never went anywhere but we still banter so it didn’t lower my value as a needy clingy guy texting her…when I didn’t get any response I withdrew….

    Girls love guys who are interesting or busy…a photo of something interesting from your day….can be anything, even some dude picking his nose….it just keeps the interaction going.

    If it’s a cocktail and I get a response like “nice….” or “Wow”….i’ll send back, “guess my drink…” or “we’ll go sometime” and see how the response is…

    LikeLike


    • on March 21, 2015 at 11:51 pm Benson

      This is good stuff. I have a dozen or so pics saved for just this purpose. One of my favorites is my ID pic from the blood bank I donate at. I have a stupid grin on my face in the photo, which makes the girl laugh, and blood donation is interesting volunteer work.

      They’re great as ping texts or for changing the subject when necessary.

      LikeLike


      • on March 22, 2015 at 2:32 am Anonymous

        @benson Good stuff.

        I avoid any photos of myself unless they’re meet in a suit or looking 100% fuckable by a girl. I also avoid photos of me doing stuff….prefer to keep the mystery of my hand or the location.

        If I’m at a sporting event…that I would send…I saw a turtle squashed on the road…i sent that to a few girls….weird signs like you see in Asia…i send…

        I also save photos chicks send me—stupid cartoons, ridiculous cats, batman, then some of the food I’ve been making that day, Post-Card game.

        The advantage is that it’s indirect and if you don’t get any serious interest after a few….i bail.

        LikeLike


    • on March 24, 2015 at 7:02 pm kant

      Wala, I actually have done this myself. Ridiculous facebook stickers work well too, lik CH birthday cat

      LikeLike


  46. on March 22, 2015 at 2:34 am walawala

    @Benson Good stuff.

    I tend to avoid photos of me where I don’t look 100% my best, nothign “goofy” of me…but goofy situations….a bus driver smoking…batman, cat photos, animals of any kind—a hamster playing the harmonica….

    If i don’t get interest beyond “cute” a few times….I bail. It seems a fail-safe way of engaging and pinging without the usual “Hey!!” Or some clever line.

    it’s more authentic if its something from my environment…it’s more irreverant and clever if it’s an animal or cartoon character….

    LikeLike


    • on March 22, 2015 at 10:31 am Benson

      Everything in measure. I don’t want to come across as a clown, but showing her that I’m having fun while donating blood to little kids who’ve been in car accidents is very effective.

      It’s an excellent retort to a shit test, too.

      Her: bitchy bitchy blahblahblah

      Me: *funny picture of me saving lives*

      Her: omg lol that’s so awesome

      Totally reframes the interaction.

      LikeLike


    • on March 22, 2015 at 5:41 pm Anonymous

      I use Monkey Selfie …. Google it.

      LikeLike


    • on March 23, 2015 at 12:36 pm Reco

      I have done this a few times with old flames. Just send photos of my travels with no expectation of a return. Then over time some start calling me again even got a couple of follow up bangs off of it.

      Key is to send interesting stuff showing your different locations and interests.

      LikeLike


  47. on March 22, 2015 at 10:20 am Major Styles

    Sounds like your typical empowered 9 in the West, receiving 5,000 likes from changing her profile picture on Facebook.

    LikeLike


  48. on March 22, 2015 at 11:36 am earl

    ‘Sometimes these sassy chicks get trapped by their own “I’m a tough broad” expectations, and lose the capacity to be emotionally vulnerable around men.’

    And that’s 90% of the reason why they are single. Emotionally vulnerable doesn’t mean you unleash your crazy on him…being vulnerable means you actually share your honest emotions with him.

    LikeLike


    • on March 22, 2015 at 12:10 pm Rejected Princess

      OK, and what if my honest emotions are actually my crazy?

      LikeLike


      • on March 22, 2015 at 12:57 pm Rude Awakening

        Theb I see cats lots of cats in your future.

        LikeLike


      • on March 22, 2015 at 1:51 pm earl

        Seek redemption from God. No man is going to fix you.

        LikeLike


      • on March 22, 2015 at 8:43 pm Tam the Bam

        Have a stiking yet intricate henna tattoo permanently engraved upon thy visage, my love. So I can run far, far away, very quickly, ASAP.

        LikeLike


      • on March 22, 2015 at 8:44 pm Tam the Bam

        dafuq? thought I’d caught it. “r” is missing … etc.

        LikeLike


      • on March 23, 2015 at 8:03 am Tilikum

        Start working the Renaissance Fair circuit? Mental illness is the norm and worn like a badge of honor there.

        LikeLike


  49. on March 22, 2015 at 1:19 pm stained class

    @ wala

    i had an exchange with the ex thats too long to put on here without the mod eating it.

    she responded fairly quickly – at one point firing off 3 texts in a row.

    when i told her to let me know if she takes saturday off (right after her 3 texts) she didnt reply.

    makes me think she never got the text

    LikeLike


    • on March 22, 2015 at 6:25 pm Benson

      I think your situation is more annoying than being ignored by an ex you still like. How long after the break up did she start the “I want you to chase me” bullshit?

      LikeLike


      • on March 22, 2015 at 7:04 pm stained class

        she broke up w me over holidays.

        3 weeks pass. she sends me a text. i reply a week later.

        she offers to come to her new place. i do after a couple days. went awesome. slept over. flawless.

        texting back & forth – i was in town so did a 2nd hook up. she was hot n cold and mentioned the chase – why dont i, or if i like it..

        my mistake was initiating 3rd hang out. she said she had to think about things..

        ran into her randomly at gym – she said text me later.. i did 4 days later. she was busy.

        went ghost 2 1/2 weeks then texted her. i’ll post the convo, see if it makes it past the fkn mod

        LikeLike


      • on March 22, 2015 at 7:10 pm stained class

        these were the texts between us:

        so this is what transpired:

        hey, ill be in t.o. for a while. taking salsa classes and joined a shooting range, you should come sometime. I just got back from a trip across canada. had an experience while traveling that has completely changed my life.

        her: Salsa classes? That’s interesting and surprising.. Shooting range would be fun. Get some internal anger out.
        The experience must have been pretty epic eh..

        me: yeah it was. i’ll tell you about it when I see you. hittin the range soon, whats your sched like?

        her: Well im pretty busy with my new job and stuff. What’s yours like?

        me: i can do friday or next week sometime. is there a time you can find to lock down? you have to book in advance at the range

        her: Can I even shoot a gun though…

        her: Don’t you need a license?

        her: I work a double Friday. I’m exhausting myself so I might call in Saturday.

        me: i’m off at 5 on saturday, so let me know if you decide to call in

        ..never replied

        LikeLike


      • on March 22, 2015 at 7:52 pm stained class

        thanks.

        i have replies and text exchange in mod

        LikeLike


    • on March 22, 2015 at 6:37 pm walawala

      @stained glass…. Ok… I’m going to give you my blunt advice. This is crucial to understanding what’s happening and to regain your frame and dignity.

      I’m in a similar situation but I’ll share how I’m handling it.

      First of all, the history of my crazy ex is too long and well known to repeat. She’s now chasing after a married dude and it’s clear why. He’s perfect: follows her around, does anything she asks but it’s unlikely he’s fucking her so he’s the perfect orbiter. She came out to my NY Eve party and we kissed and she cleaned up. Since then she blows hot and cold….some times when I run into her she’s super friendly, other times a complete bitch…it’s just who she is. She is still harbouring feelings for me…strong ones. But….she is the one who needs to initiate if this would ever move forward AND….it would only be a fuck…

      So, I text her once in a while….Post Card Game works best. It’s non-committal, I send a photo, she replies in two seconds with “nice”….Then I reply with “Spank your ass”….and leave it. We ignore each other.

      The point I’m making here…you have to be banging other girls and get out of the idea that there can ever be a re-kindling of this past romance….

      Fire off the odd text and leave it….then wait….see other chicks…..be totally irreverent…game her the way you would any other girl…

      DON”T ask her out….at the very least….suggest it….”IF we meet up again, you’re buying….”

      You won’t score points by being obvious….you will spark her curiousity by being mysterious….

      The fact she’s responding so quickly to the attention means she’s thinking of you…you’ve asked her out….leave it there. IF she’s interested she’ll reach out….but consider her just like any other girl now..she’s NOT “special”….she’s part of your rotation and the less attention you give her now the better. Treat her like you would any new girl in your rotation. Even with girls I’m banging I don’t usually text everyday….just sometimes to make sure she’s thinking of me….

      You’re thinking way too much about the details instead of the bigger picture….you asked her for drinks and she didn’t respond—-a lot of girls I game are like this….I usually just leave it after 2 tries…you should too.

      Disappear and get busy with something else…she’ll contact you somehow…she’ll reach out. When she does…don’t respond right away….when you do, just reply with “Drinks….this week. DAY”

      I did this with the 27 year old who was causing all this drama. When she finally came around and apologized and suggested we meet up, I waited a day then texted her my flight details…..she replied immediately and we met up when I landed and I banged her.

      Never make it too easy for a girl….always insist on something back….when they invest they feel like they’ve achieved something….

      To recap: leave it with her…wait until she comes back, gauge the reaction based on timing and how you feel….make one final play, if it works ….great…if not, then it’s just another girl you gamed who flaked….move on.

      LikeLike


    • on March 22, 2015 at 6:38 pm walawala

      @stained….I have a reply in mod for you…

      LikeLike


    • on March 23, 2015 at 2:33 am walawala

      @stained I had this same situation. My crazy ex gf started to make outreach, sort of giving off a vibe that she wanted to be in touch. After making out with her, I left it. I occasionally text her a photo from something and she replies in a minute. I haven’t asked her out yet but am thinking about it. If she says yes, great, if not, ok, won’t waste my time.

      You shouldn’t waste any more time on this girl either. She’s conflicted because she’s a girl and you have a history.

      You asked her for drinks and suddenly her hamster is in over-drive. Let it run its course and exhaust itself.

      But…DON”T ask her out a second time….if she says yes, ok, if she says “no/can’t” etc don’t reply, ignore her.

      Eventually she’ll come around and if she does, make it on your terms.

      LikeLike


      • on March 23, 2015 at 7:47 pm Culum Struan

        @Wala – your crazy ex? Go back? Why would you ever?

        LikeLike


      • on March 24, 2015 at 8:34 am walawala

        @Culum She reached out to me, started hovering. Typical stuff. I respond, she backs off. I disappear, she reappears. Zero investment on my part beyond that. Shot off a few texts when I was bored. She replied in two seconds. I suggested drinks. She was “busy”. The end.

        LikeLike


      • on March 24, 2015 at 9:57 am theasdgamer

        Your ex got what she wanted–to know if she could get your sexual interest. Next time wait until she suggests drinks before replying other than “…”

        LikeLike


      • on March 24, 2015 at 10:14 am walawala

        @adsgamer and I got what I wanted, she showed up at my party, she made out with me and she cleaned up. Another week she came up to me with a glass of champagne. It’s not like I was chasing. A meet up for drinks seemed like a natural follow up. Regardless that she claimed she was “busy”…her hamster is in over-drive after I went silent.

        This is where game matters….The go-to beta reaction would have been to either ask “well then when are you free?” or to get mad. I just ended up meeting with another girl. Texting costs me nothing but chicks live and die by them.

        LikeLike


      • on March 24, 2015 at 10:58 am Benson

        @ walawala: “Texting costs me nothing but chicks live and die by them.”
        True story. The crazier ones will even end relationships because of text messages.

        It sounds like you don’t really care if your ex comes back. I’m guessing that’s the point when it’s okay to start interacting with her again.

        LikeLike


      • on March 24, 2015 at 11:05 am Amy

        “Regardless that she claimed she was “busy”…her hamster is in over-drive after I went silent.”

        No it isn’t, wala. You just confirmed to her that she’s still got you on a string. Please, just ignore this chick. She’s playing you and I can tell you’re still invested. You have better options than this emotional vampire.

        LikeLike


      • on March 24, 2015 at 6:14 pm walawala

        @Benson I treated her the way I would any other girl I game. Negs, teasing, kino. I see it as good practice. But the biggest learning is not to get emotionally involved or emotional about the interactions: don’t get mad, don’t start over-thinking etc.

        There was another girl I gamed, 26, we went out around 4 times, she cooked for me but wouldn’t kiss me. One day I just blanked her, ignored her and cut her off. Eventually all these girls come back in one form or another.

        I also learned just how valuable my attention is. It’s the one thing they all miss.

        LikeLike


  50. on March 22, 2015 at 3:21 pm Benson

    I flirted with one of the nurses while I was giving blood today. I got her laughing and we seemed to have a good rapport, so I asked for her number before I left.

    She said she couldn’t give it out at work. I promised I wouldn’t tell on her and handed her my phone, and she said she could get in trouble. She asked me to write my number down instead. When I told her she would get it when I texted her, she insisted she couldn’t give it out on shift.

    I wrote my number down and told her I’d cry myself to sleep if I never heard from her, then I left.

    How could I have done better?

    LikeLike


    • on March 22, 2015 at 6:12 pm theasdgamer

      Too much rapport, not enough sexualization. She wasn’t into you.

      LikeLike


    • on March 23, 2015 at 2:35 am walawala

      @Benson, sounds solid. She asked for yours and she is working so it’s possible she isn’t flaking. If a girl insists on asking my number first, I usually say “This is for chatting purposes only, don’t be giving this out to any telemarketers” and then leave it at that.

      LikeLike


      • on March 23, 2015 at 7:19 am Benson

        Thanks for the feedback. I assumed I would have heard from her last night after she got home from work or not at all, but we’ll see. I’m guessing you actually hear back from some of the girls who get your number first?

        LikeLike


      • on March 23, 2015 at 8:49 am walawala

        @Benson usually the girl texts back “Hi”….

        LikeLike


      • on March 23, 2015 at 9:42 am been busy babe boo

        Who knows if she’ll text. The field will teach you everything so just keep pimping Benson bro. One thing I learnt early on is women (in fact most people in general) will always abuse power if you give it to them. It’s basically what being needy is. If she actually believes a text from her will “make your day”, toast! So if you say stuff like “I’d cry myself to sleep if I never heard from her”, you better have an unmissable player vibe so she knows you’re just goofing around.

        I like to say romantic shit like this all the time. For example if I exchange numbers with a HB on a night out I’ll say “we should totally get married tonight, text me when you’re done with your friends, I know just the right church”. But I make sure she sees me flirting with other girls and from my vibe she clearly knows I’m goofing around and will have a blast whether she texts or not. Also makes it easy for her to text late night with plausible deniability and funnily works well with my personal logistics.

        Btw by ‘vibe’ I mean, laser eyes, body language, vocal tonality/projection.

        Ps. don’t get married lol

        LikeLike


      • on March 23, 2015 at 2:30 pm Benson

        @walawala Are these mostly girls you meet online, or do you get this response during day game approaches?

        LikeLike


      • on March 23, 2015 at 5:30 pm walawala

        @Benson mostly online. In person, a girl usually gives her number or doesn’t. In the nurse case if you were gaming her, she may have been genuinely unable to give her number…fair enough.

        I think it’s a judgment call in that case. But normally if I get push-back I say: “I’m wearing the pants in this conversation…number please.”

        If I get the sense she’s being deliberately cunty…I just bail.

        Same as asking girls out, context is everything. I usually write like this:

        “Let’s meet for drinks this week”.

        IF I get anything less than an “ok”….I drop it.

        “Can’t this week” without a counter-offer= next

        “Busy/away etc” without a counter-offer=next

        BUT…if it’s a new girl and I sense there’s some interest I will follow up with: “What works?”

        But unless the girl is on a business trip or on holiday I think it’s pretty much impossible that she’s busy.

        I just had a girl tell me she couldn’t meet this week. I asked her when she was free….”Next week”. Next week I’m actually away. So yah, sometimes timing’s bad but…that’s usually just an excuse.

        Lately if a girl just says “Can’t this week”….I don’t even respond. What’s the point? I let my silence fill that space. Sometimes I will get the girl proactively following up…ie realizing she fucked up and needs to do something. But again, you have to begin reading the cues. My intuition is getting pretty good and “can’t this week” is a good indicator of lack of interest/initiative on her part.

        LikeLike


      • on March 23, 2015 at 6:06 pm Benson

        “In the nurse case if you were gaming her, she may have been genuinely unable to give her number…fair enough.”

        Yeah, I’m not fretting about it. But I generally won’t try for a number unless the interaction is progressing, and this one seemed to be. My problem was always failing to pull the trigger when I should have. I would approach and my game was good enough to spark some attraction, but I didn’t have the balls to keep going.

        “I think it’s a judgment call in that case. But normally if I get push-back I say: ‘I’m wearing the pants in this conversation…number please.’”
        Ha. That’s good. I’ll make use of it.

        LikeLike


      • on March 23, 2015 at 7:54 pm Culum Struan

        @Wala – this is good stuff – I do something very similar similar in terms of pitching a meetup online. No counter-offer is a big red flag, but sometimes you have to use judgment and still push for it.

        I usually get her to agree to a meetup on an unspecified date (unless I’m trying to pitch something same day) and then say “OK, send me your number and I’ll let you know” – then when she texts me, atleast I can practice text game on her and go from there.

        @Benson – I think the interaction sounds fine. The only thing you could have tried was getting her to say it out loud and memorizing it – stripper style. It’s not that hard to remember 7 digits (the area code you already know I assume) for long enough to put it into your phone when she moves away

        LikeLike


      • on March 23, 2015 at 9:01 pm theasdgamer

        wala, a woman friend asked me out, then bailed, claiming she was too busy. Maybe yes, maybe no. We have common interests. I replied, “Lol @ womens fickle emotions.” Could be her kid c0ckblocked me. She’s going out of town next weekend. She has flaked before and shown up sometimes.

        LikeLike


      • on March 23, 2015 at 9:41 pm Benson

        @Culum Struan Getting her to say it out loud is a clever angle. I’ll try it the next time I encounter a similar situation. If she was interested enough, that would have worked.

        Setting plans right then would have been rough. We were standing in the middle of the blood bank, just before she went to stick someone with a needle. I could see this working well online or in a situation without time constraints, though.

        Thanks for the input on the interaction.

        LikeLike


      • on March 24, 2015 at 1:17 pm theasdgamer

        Lately if a girl just says “Can’t this week”….I don’t even respond. What’s the point? I let my silence fill that space.

        +1

        LikeLike


      • on March 24, 2015 at 6:22 pm walawala

        @adsgamer In that case I wouldn’t have drawn attention to the flake or her flakiness. I used to do this when I got the “I’m busy this week” response.

        Now I just go silent and move on. Drawing attention to it suggests it bothers me in some way.

        “k” is good. It’s ambiguous enough.

        But lately I’ve pulled back on the “over-gaming”.

        Another girl I know wrote me a few weeks ago asking me about an arts workshop. I took that as an IOI. I gave her a straight informed opinion.

        Then another one came up and I suggested she attend. She wrote back to thank me and I bantered with her. Sent her some photos, teased her. Told her to come out to our Latin night. She was going away, then pointed out I hadn’t been out the last weekend—another IOI.

        In some cases if I’m busy and I know i’m going to be seeing the girl again, I go long game. There’s no sense in asking her out if I’m traveling or not in the city to meet up. “I can meet you in two weeks for drinks” is hardly a pull.

        “Let’s meet up when I’m back” works…I try different things depending on context. Sometimes I’m direct: “Let’s meet up this week for drinks…”

        Other times indirect: “Come out Saturday….” less likely to trigger ASD if I haven’t built up enough comfort.

        LikeLike


      • on March 24, 2015 at 6:31 pm theasdgamer

        @ walawala

        I actually don’t care if I don’t see her again. She has made it clear that she won’t respect any man she can walk over. It was necessary to point it out, but do it playfully. Special case.

        LikeLike


      • on March 24, 2015 at 6:35 pm walawala

        @adsgamer Context is everything in these situations….calling a girl out is something I do as well….when I can do so without appearing hurt. There’s a post here about how I recently did this and reversed a flake. It was quite calculated and there was always the chance the girl wouldn’t come back. It’s the point where you stop caring that they can almost sniff out.

        LikeLike


    • on March 23, 2015 at 7:56 pm Culum Struan

      @Benson

      PS – While it is generally not a good idea to give your number, it can sometimes work if there is enough attraction and the girls decides to text you (it worked for me on one memorable occasion in my beta, pre-Game days)

      PPS – You sound like you handled the interaction well from the details given but I would suggest you pitch a meetup first and then ask for the number after she’s agreed – the number is a detail, not the goal

      LikeLike


  51. on March 22, 2015 at 4:39 pm Ronin

    I’m glad that a place like this exists, where these things can get thoroughly riddled-out.

    But sometimes I wonder if the Aaron Sleazy school of pickup is right and many other schools of the art are more about needlessly complicating your social life for bro-points in the comment-threads in pursuit of a cake that’s ultimately a lie.

    Like @wala’s addition to this, too.

    LikeLike


  52. on March 22, 2015 at 5:47 pm reakcionar

    I’m totally off topic here, but did anyone here notice this popular motivational poster:

    Notice that she is actually missing the whole fucking bag and risking to get her toes broken, while talking about how “she can”. It’s the biggest feminist self irony I’ve ever seen.

    LikeLike


    • on March 22, 2015 at 8:48 pm Tam the Bam

      Ow! You could get a right nasty infected cut on the cheek from an ingrown toenail like that.
      Grab her by the taint and stuff your fist up. Soon brings ’em back to their senses.

      LikeLike


    • on March 23, 2015 at 9:36 am Anonymous

      yes, you CAN trade your womb for a pseudo-organic granola bar and a pat on the head from the plutocracy.

      oink

      LikeLike


    • on March 23, 2015 at 9:47 am Greg Eliot

      High kicks look good in practice… but don’t try ’em in a real fight.

      LikeLike


      • on March 23, 2015 at 12:42 pm Reco

        Haha I know. How many spots has she left open with this ridiculous kick.

        LikeLike


      • on March 23, 2015 at 2:28 pm reakcionar

        It doesn’t matter if her stance is horrible and that she’s even closing her eyes – she missed the most basic thing that gives essential meaning to that activity (missed a giant immobile target), and someone just made a motivational poster out of it. That is the amount of reality feminism is interested in.

        LikeLike


      • on March 24, 2015 at 10:56 am Amy

        We do kickboxing for exercise, not for fighting. Lol.

        LikeLike


  53. on March 22, 2015 at 6:03 pm theasdgamer

    @ Questions for YaReally HABD et. al.

    Was dancing at a swing dance party last night in my black cap, black western shirt, 501s, and black cowboy boot. New place–didn’t know anyone there. Mostly college-age and 20-somethings. A woman approached me and asked me to ask her to dance when it was convenient. 42 yo twice-divorced blonde HBD7 with her brunette 17 yo daughter in tow. Daughter was also a 7.

    Asked blondie to dance and danced with her a bit, then left her to dance with some others. Danced with daughter before I knew they were related.

    Asked blondie to dance again and we danced a lot. Then we stopped because she wanted to chat. Talked about her ex’s and that her life is wrapped around her kids. Gave off a strong Mom vibe. I started losing interest.

    Turns out we also graduated from the same high school, decades apart. Blondie mentioned that she used to chase boys.

    We started discussing the book I’m writing and doing research on. That led to me revealing my pickup past in high school. Didn’t actually say that I had been a PUA, but it was obvious.

    Blondie was talking about God quite a bit during our convos. I ignored it and redirected the convo. Figured it was chode bait. I talked about how the churches are so asexual that it puts obstacles in the way of attraction between the sexes. And talked about how the Song of Solomon is filled with sexual references (with no mention of the Deity).

    I got out some mint gum and Blondie wanted a stick, too. We were chatting standing or sitting facing each other with our faces six to eight inches apart. Within the kiss zone. Blondie avoided my laser-eye attempts. She started responding to my slow vocalization by holding gaze, then back to avoiding my laser-eye attempts. Wasn’t kinoing her because of the kid, except for incidental arm contact. She wasn’t kinoing me much.

    I asked blondie what one thing about her life she would change and she said she’d like to get out of her rut she’s in. Blondie also told me that she was pretty wild as a teen.

    Anyway, after a lot of dancing I got very warm and wanted to go out in the cool night air and Blondie was happy to accompany me.

    So we chatted a bit, then I suggested a walk and we walked arm in arm. First overt kino of the night. (Also my first walk/relocation/overt kino with a woman I just met in several decades. Inhibitions are falling.) Lots of talk of the Deity from blondie. Turned me off even more. Didn’t even want to kiss her. She said she was cold and wanted to go back. Figured it was the ball and chain. C0ckblocked.

    More convo. Blondie criticized public schools for discussing orgasms in sex ed classes. She was sexualizing the convo. She said that I was into her because of how much time I gave her. (Actually, my interest was more related to getting background for my book and practicing my convo skills since I haven’t been doing much convo–just dancing a lot.) Blondie asked me if I go to church. Christian screening question for a relationship. I told her.

    Blondie was talking about wanting a regular dance partner several times. I suggested that she go with me to my country dance bar. She said this weekend was out. Had her enter her cell no. and she confirmed receiving my text.

    Thinking this over later, I realized that I shudda suggested the “Let’s not let the kids catch us flirting” game as a way to derail c0ckblocking.

    1) Observations?
    2) Suggestions about how to proceed?

    LikeLike


  54. on March 22, 2015 at 8:10 pm zip

    Seriously, Gents, with all respect and appreciation for game but this little Jessica-Cunt belongs to the mental asylum and not on Sexual Market.

    LikeLike


    • on March 22, 2015 at 9:49 pm Murray Street

      Not really. She’s just a sassy twenty-something. Go out more.

      LikeLike


      • on March 23, 2015 at 9:31 am walawala

        @Murray Street agree…get out and start talking to 20-something girls….then start banging them…they’re all like this….sassy brashy, rude….it’s their version of “game”…

        LikeLike


      • on March 23, 2015 at 7:22 pm Anonymous

        Sassy doesn’t age well.

        LikeLike


      • on March 24, 2015 at 10:02 am Greg Eliot

        Exactly… and when did “sassy” become a badge of honor for these broads?

        LikeLike


  55. on March 23, 2015 at 9:25 am theasdgamer

    Got a question in mod.

    LikeLike


  56. on March 23, 2015 at 11:47 am Polar Bear

    This is what Charlie Sheen meant when he said he didn’t pay escorts to sleep with him he paid them to leave.

    LikeLike


  57. on March 23, 2015 at 8:13 pm Some Bird

    Are women like this really even worth your breath. Honestly, she’s just awful. She’s not even flirting, she’s just being rude (unless she has no idea how to banter). Why would you even waste your timee trying to game her?

    Maybe I do know why, it’s the ones that are hard to get that we all want, right? Do you secretly want to master these girls to feel super Alpha? Be honest because I see equally beautiful women and those who are bitches seem to get the males. What’s up with that?

    LikeLike


  58. on March 24, 2015 at 8:34 am Sentient

    Has anyone had a comment come out of mod or the ghost files since last week? CH said they had some system issues. Resolved?

    LikeLike


  59. on March 24, 2015 at 9:34 am theasdgamer

    My comment 656707 is stilllll in mod.

    LikeLike


  60. on March 24, 2015 at 1:40 pm theasdgamer

    Instead of “Bratty” reply, how about is

    Nick: Oh, u wanna talk to Olga…I’ll call her

    [a few minutes later]

    Nick: Hi Jessica, is Nick’s friend Olga. He such da manz. I luv it when he cums in my mouth after pounding my throat. I don’t think u r woman enuff to handle him.

    LikeLike


  61. on March 25, 2015 at 8:24 am theasdgamer

    @ YaReally, HABD, et. al.

    Since CH has been holding my question comment in mod for three days, I posted it on my site. Please comment there.

    LikeLike


  62. on March 30, 2015 at 11:55 am Anonymous

    Oldster here, pre-cell phone, at the bar used to have to write their phone number on book of matches, until a natural told me to memorize the digits instead. was different, impressed the chicks. Also good IOI when they keep asking throughout the night for you to repeat the number back to them (didn’t want you to forget it).

    LikeLike



Comments are closed.

  • Copyright © 2018. Chateau Heartiste. All rights reserved. Comments are a lunchroom food fight and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Chateau Heartiste proprietors or contributors.
  • Visit the Goodbye, America photojournal website.

    Then cleanse your visual palate with a visit to the Welcome Back, America photojournal website.

  • Pages

    • About
    • Alpha Assessment Submissions
    • Beta Of The Year Contest Submissions
    • Dating Market Value Test For Men
    • Dating Market Value Test For Women
    • Diversity + Proximity = War: The Reference List
    • Shit Cuckservatives Say
    • The Sixteen Commandments Of Poon
  • Twitter Updates

    Error: Please make sure the Twitter account is public.

  • Recent Comments

    Bucky on Comment Of The Week: The Left…
    Lichthof on Cesar Sayoc, “White Male…
    Scanman on Comment Of The Week: The Left…
    Amon Ra on Comment Of The Week: The Left…
    MikeF on Comment Of The Week: The Left…
    jOHN MOSBY on Cesar Sayoc, “White Male…
    Corinth Arkadin on Comment Of The Week: The Left…
    Craig on Comment Of The Week: The Left…
    William of Orange Co… on Comment Of The Week: The Left…
    Captain Obvious on Comment Of The Week: The Left…
  • Top Posts

    • Cesar Sayoc, "White Male" (& Deep State Updates)
    • Ugly, Misshapen, Tatted, Fat Catladies Hate Trump
    • Tourette's Game
    • Mocking The Globohomo Corporatocracy
    • When The Jumbotron Test Is Crushed
    • Comment Of The Week: The Left's Cultural Reign Is Over
    • The Confound Of Silence
    • The Sixteen Commandments Of Poon
    • "Conspiracy Theory" Conspiracy
    • Slutty Women Are Unhappier Than Caddish Men
  • Categories

  • Game

    • 60 Years of Challenge
    • Alpha Game
    • Cajun
    • Krauser PUA
    • Rational Male
    • Roosh V
    • Tenmagnet
    • Treatise of Love
  • MAGA MEN

    • Alternative Right
    • AmRen
    • Anonymous Conservative
    • Audacious Epigone
    • Dusk in Autumn
    • Education Realist
    • Evo and Proud
    • Gene Expression
    • Hail To You
    • Hawaiian Libertarian
    • Lion of the Blogosphere
    • My Posting Career
    • OneSTDV
    • PA World and Times
    • Page For Men
    • Parapundit
    • Rogue Health and Fitness
    • Steve Sailer
    • The Anti-Gnostic
    • The Kakistocracy
    • The Red Pill Review
    • The Spearhead
    • Unqualified Reservations
    • Vox Popoli
    • West Hunter
    • Whiskey's Place
  • Syllogism and Synthesis

    • Alias Clio
    • Arts & Letters Daily
    • Deconstructing Leftism
    • Elysium Revisited
    • Feminine Beauty
    • hbd chick
    • Human Biological Diversity
    • Library of Hate
    • Overcoming Bias
    • Stuff White People Like

WPThemes.


Cancel
loading Cancel
Post was not sent - check your email addresses!
Email check failed, please try again
Sorry, your blog cannot share posts by email.
Privacy & Cookies: This site uses cookies. By continuing to use this website, you agree to their use.
To find out more, including how to control cookies, see here: Cookie Policy
%d bloggers like this: