I’ve read all the pickup theories concerning this burning question. On paper, each side makes reasonable arguments. One that sticks out is the claim that women feel more comfy in their own places, and their comfort will translate into easier sex.
Theories abound, but my experience has already given me the answer to the question ‘my place or hers?’. It’s an If THEN ELSE *beep boop* computation.
1. If your place is much farther away than her place, go to hers. Favorable logistics wins every time. Too much delay getting her from the date venue to a bedroom means more time for her tingle anticipation to dissipate.
2. If the above condition is not met, by default take her to your place. As a percentage of total number of venue-to-home bounces, you will close the deal more often at your place than at hers. This is what I’ve found to be true. Taking a girl back to your castle instills a power dynamic that works to your favor. She will “feel led”, and that feeling, especially when coupled with a stir of anxiety, arouses her. Plus, a woman who knows subconsciously that she can kick you out of her place on a whim is a woman who has too much psychological leverage to ever fully submit in that most pleasurable way to your indomitable presence.
EXCEPTION TO ABOVE RULE: You’re slinking around for supplementary pussy. Best then to keep your mistresses in the dark about your permanent abode(s).
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I like fucking girls in the dead of winter, outside. They warm up once it gets going.
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Definitely hers (subject to logistics), makes it easier to bail after the deed.
[CH: true, but i’m not the kind of guy to bail post-jizzbomb, despite what you may have heard by unbiased third parties.]
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great post
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This is a judgment call. One girl I’m banging regularly invited me over to her place for the first bang. She texted to say she was home after a party and drinking and said come over she’d mix drinks. The more I pushed back saying it was late…the more she insisted.
I finally relented and when I came over banged her hard. Then left. Now she comes over regularly…The point is it’s a kind of moot point and dependent on how your interaction.
I think in the first case she was horny, it was late and it was a roll of the dice for her to invite me…Me coming over was her reward.
Generally the girls I bang don’t have their own places, they live with their parents so when I invite them over, nearly always they bang me.
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Agree with aiming for Home Field Advantage for the seduction. Heck, all my accouterments are there…fireplace, hi-fi, massage oil…
One exception I had recently: a DTF I picked up at a bar (yup, she was alone, midweek). I accepted her invitation to go back to her place. I banged her and left within 1 hour. I never saw her again, just a “did u like last night?” text from her and “Yes nice to have a little fun” response from me the next day. I didn’t want her knowing where I live…
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I aim for hers, in case she’s a loon. But usually mine is more convenient, and I’ve also had more success getting the bang at mine.
As for supplementary pussy….hypothetically, is being friends with your target on social media a disaster? I can imagine her cunt friends finding out and wanting to tell your girlfriend you “cheated on her”. Just to stir up juicy drama under the guise of doing the right thing. Or is that an unlikely scenario?
I suppose the overarching question is how do you find a chick who’ll keep her mouth shut — at least while your cock isn’t in it?
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My only real working option is to go to their place, but the fact that that’s what I would need to do isn’t helping whatever issues are making me a complete loser around women.
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i usually have them come to my place. more convenient for since i get up early most mornings. but i do think it’s good to mark your territory in her place once in awhile. makes her think of you when you’re not there.
was seeing a girl for a little while but we hadn’t said anything about being exclusive. i had told her i wasn’t looking for a relationship. so i’m pretty sure she was still seeing an ex and/or occasionally hooking up with a guy from work.
she had been to my place quite a few times but i’d only been to hers once when we first met.
we ended up at her place one night. instead of going right to bed like usual, i went out and sat on the couch and looked through the magazines on her coffee table. i helped myself to the food in the frig, checked out the liquor cabinet without asking. i then had my way with her on the couch and then in bed. i hung out for awhile after and then went home.
she came over a couple times after that and then i went to her place again and did pretty much same thing i’d done before. i didn’t think anything of it. i was just feeling relaxed and making myself at home.
apparently i was doing more than that…
after the first night at her place, she texted me the next night saying she couldn’t be in her bed without thinking of me. after the second time, she was asking to be exclusive a couple days later. i can guarantee she didn’t have another man in that place until at least a year or so later when we finally broke up. probably not even until a while after that.
establishing your presence in a girl’s home like that is a very effective way of keeping you on her mind and keeping other men out of her bed. and the nice thing about it is, you don’t even have to tell her not to see anyone. you don’t come off as jealous or needy or anything. you’re just marking your territory in a very subtle but effective way and it just sort of takes care of itself.
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“EXCEPTION TO ABOVE RULE: You’re slinking around for supplementary pussy. Best then to keep your mistresses in the dark about your permanent abode(s).”
Tom Leykis argues that all women should be treated like “supplementary pussy,” and men should therefore do everything in their power to keep the details of their lives and even identities private. You don’t want her to know where you live after the break up. Bitches be crazy. He views dating as a war–we want the maximum pussy from them for the minimum money and vice versa. It’s a cold cosmology, denying the existence of love and the value of marriage or children.
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Very dependent on the situation and the girl!
I enjoy it when she meets me at the door wearing a little costume she couldn’t possibly wear anywhere else except at a swing party. I enjoy it when she has something nice for me to eat. I enjoy not having to clean after I’m done and gone. She enjoys the tension of waiting for me to arrive. She usually has nice cotton sheets.
On the other hand, I enjoy when I have every toy and accouterment at hand, including the music we will enjoy. I enjoy sending her away when I’m done with her. I don’t enjoy having to wait for her to show. Girls almost always leave a mess too. My mattress is firm and a good workout platform.
As a traveling man, girls get a kick from getting invited up to my hotel suite (21st floor) in the swankiest part of the city. Here in Seoul, few women have their own place anyway, usually living with the parents into their 30s, hence all the DVDbangs (private rooms for “watching DVDs) and “love motels.”
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Hell, that’s why I got married… it beat having to wake-up and go home at 3:00am.
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Because I was married was why I had to get up at 3 am and go home.
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My comment is stuck in moderation. What triggers this?, so that I may avoid it in the future?
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Logistics is one of the most overlooked aspects of game.
If all else fails, there is always the car, depending on how much room you have.
Though most women over their late 20’s expect a place to go to and fucking is nearly always better on a bed than in the back seat.
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One nice thing of going to her place is she gets to act out the seducer which can be fun. She excuses herself and gets changed into lingerie lights her candles etc and revs herself up in the process…. Good times.
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Sentient, great point. Some of my favorite seductions happened this way.
However overall CH is right, your best shot to close the deal is at your place. There, you can lead, you call the shots, you can pace the interaction and make sure there are no cockblocks. You can set up your place just right.
My place these days is like Quagmire’s from family guy. As soon as she comes in everything is in place. My living room is used for storage so she has to come in my bedroom. Once there, the lighting is low and sexy (I took out the overhead lights and just have warm low light lamps). A Drake album starts playing as soon as I hit the space bar on my laptop. I bring in two beers from the kitchen and already have an opener in my room. The only place to sit on is the bed.
I sit next to her on the bed with light incidental kino and make small talk in a low sexy voice while giving her laser eyes and we drink our beers. There are plenty of interesting items in my room that I can use as props to go into several well rehearsed stories about emotionally rich experiences and travels. Once I finish my beer I take hers out of her hand and set them down, make my move and bang her.
Some girls have even thanked me afterward for how ‘smooth’ the experience was. They can tell I’ve done this dozens of times, but who cares, it’s all about the magic.
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Very tight Kant. Reminds me of the days I had my own place, same kind of thing, just a solid routine, well worn.
Mine was come over for a swim (nearly naked), some kino with suntan lotion, chill by the pool – aloof. Go on up to my place, great waterfront view and no furniture… Contrast. Chill tunes go on, I make some quick food (omelette always a hit), pour some kava (no beer then, contrast DHV), eat on the blanket on the floor, close to each other, “romantic”. Play it cool. Aloof.
Then ask her, laser eyeing, very close “what are you thinking?” and they would always say “I’m wondering when you are going to kiss me” and I knew they were going to say exactly this thing, and so I was very chill and non-plussed leading up to it. aloof. Always effective. Ahhh good times.
I thought about telling this story on the game denier thread here https://heartiste.wordpress.com/2015/03/26/i-dont-need-game-to-pick-up-lsmv-chicks/#comment-657842
Because this was before “game” as we know it existed, however looking back I can see it was all there – confident, aloof, DHV game. And it was repeatable. Over and over. LOL – game deniers.
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yes, that is how i always made the decision. plus they like the” adventure of being in a new apartment & exploring & learning about the mysterious stranger they just met.”
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I usually prefer their places and for most of my life have tried to do it on the road because I hate cleaning after the fact. Lately though I’ve had most of my success on home court though.
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Your place if it’s nice. Your apartment can and should be part of your game. It’s your homefield. A man’s home is his kingdom and so forth. It says a lot about who you are. In a way your home and the items in it are a reflection of your worthiness or mate-value. It directly indicates your financial success or professional importance as well as indicates your interests and lifestyle and hints at character traits such as cleanliness and responsibility. Anyway, as some have described, your place is part of you and should be integrated conceptually into your overall game.
This isn’t to say there aren’t good times to go to her place instead for reasons other than proximity. If her place is nicer or more comfortable, or maybe you have roommates or maybe your place is a dump at the moment. Sometimes its nice to not have to clean up. I always find girls apartments very comfortable and inviting. I like to invade it (and her) and slowly leave my mark on the place if it’s a girl I end up regularly seeing or dating. It’s like you own the place and own her.
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