Yesterday, I speculated on motives for co-pilot Andreas Lubitz’s murderous sabotage of the plane he flew into a moutain. Three of my speculations appear to be strong possibilities, based on the most current evidence come to light.
2. Beta male rage. He suffered a recent breakup and took it out on himself and 150 strangers. […]
4. Terrorist mole. We’ve had a spate of planes going down because of pilot treachery. Have secretive terror-sponsoring societies filled flight schools with terrorist moles? Talk about the long game… […]
6. Muslim convert. No evidence of this, but I wouldn’t be surprised if the media Hivemind keeps this kind of info under wraps for the duration of public interest.
I settled on the schizophrenia explanation, figuring that based on Lubitz’s history battling depression and bad things happening to people who take anti-psychotics that it was the most likely reason for his mass murder-suicide.
But, that wasn’t my first instinct. When I saw a photo of the guy, my gut told me he was a lovelorn beta male candidate who may have flew (heh) into a psychotic episode triggered by a relationship breakup. I decided against my gut, in favor of the more “PC” speculation. I should’ve stuck with my gut. News arrives that Lubitz was seeing a therapist to get over his fiancée dumping him.
Reports this morning suggested the pilot may have been badly affected by a “relationship crisis” and was struggling to cope following a break-up with his girlfriend – who he was due to marry next year.
He is said to have shared an apartment in Dusseldorf – the destination of the doomed plane – with a woman whose surname is Goldbach.
The beta male rage angle is looking better.
(NB: This isn’t omega male rage, a la Elliot Rodger. Omega males are sexless castaways. Beta males can get girlfriends, but are awful at maintaining relationship hand, so they frequently get dumped, what seems to them, out of the blue.)
Chalk one up for CH speculation #2. What about the other speculations? Looks like I was onto something as well when I suggested (#s 4 and 6) that Lubitz may have converted to Islam.
All evidence indicates that the copilot of Airbus machine in his six-months break during his training as a pilot in Germanwings, converted to Islam and subsequently either by the order of “radical”, ie. devout Muslims , or received the order from the book of terror, the Quran, on his own accord decided to carry out this mass murder. As a radical mosque in Bremen is in the center of the investigation, in which the convert was staying often, it can be assumed that he – as Mohammed Atta, in the attack against New York – received his instructions directly from the immediate vicinity of the mosque.
We’ll see if this gets confirmed by German authorities. Or not, given that the Davosian Hivemind would wish to assiduously conceal such information from the public.
The whole horrible spasm of evil stinks to high hell of the effluvium excreted by a nexus of romantically defeated beta male rage + psychotropics + religion of peace + social atomization. Like commenter Bill said, white Westerners, and white Western men in particular, have become “unmoored”. Blowouts like Lubitz could become a feature of the future, rather than inexplicable one-offs. Unmoored white men, and especially white women, will increasingly find a soothing comfort in the black-and-white tenets offered by the alternative to secular, vibrantly diverse, libertardian materialism: Muhammadeism.
(A battle pitting Muslim beheaders against beep booping libertarians is gonna be awfully one-sided. And seriously cut into my poolside time.)
Chief Christian Sadist Pleasureman writes a lot about SCALE, and how its growth is tearing apart the fabric of society. He’s onto something, but I should point out that SCALE has other downstream effects he doesn’t often consider. One of them is the observed reality that massive SCALE permits women a broader pool of alpha fux to garnish their beta bux. SCALE encourages women, and the top 20% alpha males they desire, to satisfy their worst instincts.
Kind-faced (aka tamed) beta males like Andreas Lubitz get chewed up and spit out by SCALE. They have no community outside of immediate family. The implicit contract of relationship stability that was a given in the time of his beta father and grandfather has been severed. SCALE has permitted wider romantic vistas for women, for good and ill, and they are voting with their feet. The wreckage of Lubitzs left behind looks like the dumbstruck face of a good-natured beta who can’t believe his dependability and emotional support aren’t good enough for his disenchanted lover.
So now the question remaining is whether Lubitz’s romantic troubles precipitated his psychotic break and turn to Islam, or if his mental problems and embrace of Islam pushed his girlfriend away. Either way, the story is an omen for the future of white civilization.

Beta males are ideal converts to Islam.
They are accustomed to being programmmed, and they even gain a slim chance to regain their testicles as a muslim.
too bad their chicks are nasty.
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http://www.nybooks.com/articles/archives/2015/apr/02/slouching-toward-mecca/?insrc=hpss
I can definitely see it. Besides those who simply submit like the protagonist of that book, more than a few will sign up for no other reason than to stick it to the femcunts and multikultists.
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All suicide bombers are lonely, horny, awkward beta/omegas who are manipulated by those who completely understand what makes them tick. They are promised an immortal name and 72 sky ‘ginas.
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no proof the pilot was a muslim
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no proof the pilot was a muslim
The thing about him going to a radical mosque in Bremen must’ve come from somewhere. The PC-ness in the newsmedia are preventing the Germans from coming out with it — they won’t even speculate on his religion at the moment — but the truth will out eventually.
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if the system planted a bomb on your car and detonated it as you drove past a black church, you would be designated an evil white supremacist.
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I hate it when that happens.
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perhaps awkward in the western sense….to social retarted sociopathic western women then yes…dont see latinos and asians doing this.
muslim women yeah they are nasty even persian girls if they dont get the nosejob(nose job capital of the world)
SOme of those bombders werent always loners though however like the tsarniov guy.
that virgin thing isnt sex its suppose to be servents, not an orgy up there.
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That must be why feminists like to convert to Islam…plenty of beta males they can control.
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Can’t tell if you are being sarcastic here or not, but there are a great number of feminists who convert to Islam. Not to control betas, but so they may finally submit to a real man. White women in the US and the UK are the largest demographic of new Muslims via conversion.
If American males don’t tape their undropped nutsacks back on, their granddaughters will be speaking Arabic.
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Lol. now THAT was funny earl. High five.
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‘Not to control betas, but so they may finally submit to a real man.’
Nah…the feminists got all the power they wanted in the West. Now they are bored so they are going to try and usurp the power Islam has.
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Beta males are ideal converts to Islam.
They are accustomed to being programmmed, and they even gain a slim chance to regain their testicles as a muslim.
Bitterbetas (a.k.a. gammas) also resent alphas. They want to belong to something, but decide that Western civ sux, so they go muzzie. Exact same mentality as to why many bitterbetas and omegas become SJWs.
too bad their chicks are nasty.
Usually, but not always; and regardless of their looks, Muslim girls usually still have their unspoiled feminine charm and do believe in being wives and mothers. I know for a fact that some betas go over to the religion of pieces after falling in love with one of their girls.
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To their credit, the mohammedians are honest about the true nature of YKW and of women: SERMON IN MONTPELLIER, FRANCE: WOMEN ARE SELFISH BY NATURE, DENY THE GOOD BESTOWED ON THEM BY MEN http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3273169/posts
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If Islam has anything to do with this, I’ll eat my fuzzy hat. The sources claiming his Muslim ties are suspicious at best.
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Yeah…

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i was trying to find the source for all the muslim articles and it’s michael mannheimer here
http://michael-mannheimer.net/2015/03/26/copilot-der-airbus-ungluecksmaschine-war-islamkonvertit-er-steuerte-die-maschine-bewusst-gegen-den-berg/
he has deleted it apparently. that doesn’t mean the explanation isn’t true, it would certainly make sense. i don’t think of heartbreak as being a cause leading to killing 150 people
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Betas build civilizations. Structure yours so that they get laid, and watch it run. Build it around a hamster’s moment-to-moment whims, and…well, at least you get tingles!
I’m sure we’ll be hearing from Jizzabel soon about how moar feminism could’ve stopped this guy (betas would have a tough time wreaking havoc from the insides of concentration camps).
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What is SCALE?
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same question
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Yes, what is SCALE? The link doesn’t say.
It’s also the first time I’ve seen it mentioned at CH.
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Gonna take a stab and say its an acronym for something like Secular Corporate Atomized Liberal Equalist. Don’t know for sure.
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Super Cruel Alpha-Lovin’ Evolution. My best guess
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http://mpcdot.com/forums/topic/155-the-limits-of-human-scale/
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Abbreviation of: size, complexity, atomization, liberalization, elitism.
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Heartiste, could you write a post discussing the difference between the Clark Gable, Cary Grant, William Powell type alpha males and the professional wrestler type. Are they both alpha? Why are they so different?
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I’ll add to this that rapid technological progress has stripped the illusion of meaning from modern life. Everybody is connected to everything and the big grinning skull of futility is lurking just beneath the LCD screen. Humans have nothing to work towards anymore other than increasing their own narcissistic supply. Even a minor loss can trigger feelings of suicidal existentialism when you have no support network or resources.
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you can always get in touch with your inner white negro?
gold chains, drumbeats and pussy
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For once, you’re on to something. Has to be authentic though. We’ll leave the bling and bongos to you nogs.
For us it’s bespoke suits, firearms and pussy.
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There’s a problem with the type of pussy Mr. Blonde dreams of: most come attached to asses so big they have their zip codes, ala Moochelle, you know, the Ubangi bubble butt complex?
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if it keeps you from flying your plane into the ground; who am i to challenge it?
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8bztE5IbQOo
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Hey Rastus, don’t forget David Burke.
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Should clarify, the David Burke I’m referring to is the violent Negro who was fired from Pacific Southwest Airlines after being suspected of stealing money. He boarded a plane, shot the crew, and crashed it into a field, killing everybody else on board. He had seven kids but was never married (hue hue hue). You were saying?
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thats different, he had a valid reason for revenge.
the german nut was living the white man wet dream.
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I believe I nailed it yesterday when I said the default answer is islam until proven otherwise because that’s what they do.
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That’s what der fuhrer thought.
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It just isn’t a worthwhile suicide in Islam unless you take many innocent victims with you.
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It’s even more worthwhile if you take one guilty bastard with you. Too bad Dominique Venner didn’t get that.
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The default is corporate greed until proven otherwise the Airbus 320 is a turd with wings and it would be a lot cheaper for the Airline and Airbus to blame some depressed guy then admit to plane failure. All a corporation has to do is hit certain narratives like depression and Islam and the story then gets a life of its own…
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Why would this guy hit a mountain instead of the EU parliament building or some other structure? If you going to commit mass murder go big or go home…
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Because departing from Barcelona he would have to make sure that he could keep the pilot out of the cockpit while flying right across France, as far as the actual destination over in Dusseldorf, and take a bet on whether the Frogs, who are understandably twitchy at the moment, wouldn’t sling a Mirage or a Rafale at it to shoot it down. EU overlords are very very keen on their own untouchability. As are the Swiss bordering the flightpath.
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Nice try, prog-tard. Nasty French prosecutor says it was deliberate and the fight pattern established same. Besides, Airbus is a socialist govenrment consortium, why would the French prog-tards rail against their own baby?
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Nobody really knows what happened unless you have listened to the blackbox. You dipshits are too eager to impose anything that fits your world view on every story you hear.
Just because I am not a corporate worshiping autistic libertardian does not mean that I am a progressive.
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Boeing and Lockheed are socialist government consortiums too.
Take the dick out your mouth before you call somebody else a cocksucker.
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please writa about that “free the nipple” crap lol. apparently the breast is not a sexual object men just make it one… the human stupidity is limitless http://postimg.org/image/kkdcl927h/
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“Breasts aren’t a sexual object” LOL I love dumb chicks like this, they get on their knees faster than a starving Japanese kid
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If tits ain’t a sexual object, they’ll certainly do until one comes along. 😉
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[…] Council of Realtalkers Vindicated? Andreas Lubitz Was A Recent Convert To Islam And A Lovelorn Beta … […]
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Dollars to donuts his fiancé was taking advantage of his work trips away from home to carousel til the cows come hom. He didn’t have the guts to kick her to the curb though, and his betatude metasticized into profound, nihilistic self-loathing.
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Peter O’Toole as T.E. Lawrence in the movie ‘Lawrence of Arabia,’ had a problem with being around and participating in killing. “I enjoyed it,” he said.
I guess I am sheltered – so many people looking for ‘relief’ in killing others.
How ’bout this bitch:
http://fortruss.blogspot.com/2015/03/22-year-old-ukrainian-femanazi-from.html
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That story about conversion to Islam is basically unsourced. It reminds me of Hunter Thompson’s “reporting” about Ed Muskie taking Ibogaine, about which he later remarked, “I never said he was taking Ibogaine, I said there was a rumor he was taking Ibogaine. Which was true, and I started the rumor.”
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actually, stop listening to what the media says. most stories that receive 24/7 coverage on major networks are the result of #9 on your list…. most likely including this one
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Good post. I ‘ve just been watching the French news and they are clearly playing the psychiatric angle; no mention of a recent romantic breakup or a possible conversion to Islam. But what is SCALE? I couldn’t find it in the Urban Dictionary.
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SCALE is not an acronym as speculated above. It sort of the idea that a healthy social order can only be “scaled up” so far. Therefore the multicultural/multinational social model cannot work because it’s too big and complex.
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Thanks. I sometimes wonder whether any nation really ought to be bigger than, say, Switzerland. Humans just don’t do “big” all that well.
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I am asian from Singapore. I thought I’d pop in today.
The first is to thank the proprietor. I state categorically that Heartiste offers the plain damn truth and the best advice on EQ and social skills anywhere on the Internet, period. If you have no agenda and no ego to defend, if what you want is to get laid and you are determined to try anything and everything – and I mean determined – until you achieve your goal, you will realize that seduction techniques work. Everywhere. US. Europe. Asia. And Heartiste, for free, delivers this priceless advice. AMOG, negging, alpha posturing, etc., these are proven and priceless instruments of seduction, but they are also invaluable tools for getting ahead in life, in your career, in getting people to listen to you, in persuading people of your ideas.
And for the second reason, first, I’d like to apologize to the proprietor for drawing attention away from him for a moment. The greatest alpha I know has just passed away. He is the Prime Minister of Singapore, Lee Kuan Yew, and I know a great many of you who have heard of him think he is a tinpot despot, and are wondering how much I am paid to do this. I am not paid anything at all. As I type this, tens of thousands of my countrymen are waiting outside our Parliament, in line for 10 hours or more, waiting through the night to pay him their last respects. No one asked or even expected them to come; they all appeared, unbidden. He is an alpha not in the definition we have here of having a great many women, though he no doubt could have been. He was faithful to his wife all his life and it seems to me that he lost the will to go on after she died. No, he is an alpha in the sense that he was incorruptible principles, vision, and had solid titanium balls and he made our lives immeasurably better.
You are fighting an onslaught of bullshit and LKY is the straightest talker I know. I’d like to keep his memory and words alive and this Chateau is a repository of truth. If nothing else,I hope his speeches and works bring you some reading pleasure. Perhaps you will like this, as a start: “Equality is an aspiration, it is not reality, it is not practical”.
http://www.straitstimes.com/news/singapore/more-singapore-stories/story/his-own-words-equality-aspiration-it-not-reality-it-not-
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Well, as an American ex pat living in France, Lee Kuan Yew always seemed like an alpha to me. He spoke the truth and governed his country wisely. His methods wouldn’t work everywhere but they certainly worked in Singapore. May he rest in peace.
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No No No playa… this is where you went wrong. Audi????
Listen up y’all. Beeeee EMMMMMM DoubleUUUUUUUU!!!!! Always.
That’s why she broke up with you…
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3014920/Germanwings-pilot-killer-bought-two-Audis-one-one-girlfriend-weeks-ago.html
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How many times has a Christian, atheist, Buddhist, or other non-Muslim individual perpetrated this kind of bullshit? I would bet good money that it’s close to never. But nobody can ever dare suggest that this obvious correlation between Islamic converts and suffering should be grounds to prevent someone from performing important jobs like piloting.
At the same time the correlation between having a penis and filing claims for car damage is sufficient grounds to charge men more for vehicle insurance.
At the very least, couldn’t people take an individual’s emotional state into account before putting the lives of men, women and children in their hands? Or is that politically incorrect now too?
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SCALE = Society’s Creating A Liberal Environment.
Or…
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Some creatures are less equal
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With the polarising of the sexual market we’re seeing a return to a tribal society. Before the concept of marriage made the sexual market more equitable and gave almost every male a bite of the evolutionary cherry, women were monopolised by the very elite men.
Marriage meant that the elite men had to sacrifice their harems, and all but the most attractive of women had to give up access to prime alpha seed, but it incentivised the winners, the low value men, into working towards something bigger than themselves, society. Despite all the sacrifices made by those at the top, everybody benefitted from a safer, more stable society.
We have reached and gone beyond peak civilisation. The leftist attacks on marriage and the traditional nuclear family have left them in tatters. Without the incentives of marriage, betas will drop out and disengage from society.
Some will be seduced by traditional, reactionary movements, and Islam, while an alien ideology to western men, represents the biggest, baddest reactionary movement out there.
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I am still not buying this. I think he was seriously mentally ill…end of story. This is very similar to Susan Smith, who drove her sons into the river or Andrea Yates who drowned all her kids. In the same way feminists attempted to explain away their behavior by shoehorning it into a predetermined mold, the manosphere is attempting to explain this guy’s behavior like they did with Elliott Rodger.
Crazy people do crazy shit. That’s the lesson we should be taking from this. He was seeing a shrink and on meds. Ding ding ding! Don’t put such people in charge of heavy machinery! I don’t drive a car while on Benadryl. He should not have been piloting a plane on head meds.
If you want to break a taboo and stigmatize a group, I’d recommend making it the mentally ill, not Beta males, most of whom go through a period of depression, then move on. Mental illness needs to be taken more seriously and the way to do that is to call it out, not pussyfoot around as the idiot, bleeding heart “advocates” are saying on other pages.
People on these meds need to be required to report it to their employers, like children who need to go to the school nurse for Band-Aids.
Hell, I’d even go so far as to say that his Kamikaze move had more Alpha panache than Beta-tude. It takes serious balls to bring a plane full of people down. Not Beta at all. A Beta would kill himself with too much alcohol. Or, more likely, stay home and watch sitcom reruns, then get back in the game after wasting a year.
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Finally, a sane post.
The rest of you fellows need a finer bullshit detector in this information age, unless you don’t plan on using the internet.
Matt
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Thanks for the props. But I made the mistake thinking he was prescribed psychotropic drugs and was allowed to fly. Turns out you’re not allowed to fly on them. So, in the end, he needed to be medicated, wasn’t and crashed the plane. This reminds me of the schizophrenics and bipolar people who think they don’t need meds.
My original idea still stands. It was mental illness. No game coach nor better society could alter that. But better laws need to be in place to prevent this sort of thing from happening.
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It was mental illness. No game coach nor better society could alter that.
Of course mental illness can be altered by society.
Mental illness, and the individual suffering from it, do not exist in a vacuum. The mental illness is a part of “society”. Though it might be more accurate to say it exists where society does not.
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Yeah because our society is perfectly ok and nothing happened, keep walking people, a sick and degenerated environment infested with misandry, a rootless society foisted on an individual. Add to this mix Psychotropics so dangerous suicidal tendencies and madness are listed among its side effects will do no harm.
Look It’s a miracle this things don’t happen more frequently.
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Yeah because our society is perfectly ok and nothing happened, keep walking people. Let’s see: a sick and degenerated environment infested with misandry + a rootless society foisted on an individual. Add Psychotropics so dangerous suicidal tendencies and madness are listed among its side effects to the mix and sure nothing will happen.
Look It’s a miracle this things don’t happen more frequently.
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It’s the unmoored on one side and Moors on the other.
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Droll… but the card says “Moops”.
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“Fuzzies” vs. “Muzzies?”
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“They have no community outside of immediate family.”
That lil buried line describes the essence of the Western condition ever since the War on Community was declared in 1954.
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Exactly.
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You lost me at Mohammed atta. Jet fuel can’t melt steel, homey.
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Every intelligent human being understands that the three towers were brought down via controlled demo.
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what kind of height and weight were these arab hijackers?
none of them looked very badassed to me?
i cant wait for some clown to try and rob me with a box cutter.
i’ll even give them em first slash free.
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The burning fuel didn’t need to melt it – just weaken it enough. Not that I expect the fever swamp conspiracy buffs to bother, but read some actual engineering analysis here:
http://www.tms.org/pubs/journals/jom/0112/eagar/eagar-0112.html
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Yeah, every kerosene stove I’ve ever seen melted and collapsed on itself. Even a nearby third kerosene stove that wasn’t burning!
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For someone who claims to care about whites, PA seems quite committed to the idea that white Americans were behind 9/11, not brown Arabs.
What would an anti-white, Muzzie-excuser do differently?
Was the 1993 WTC attempted bombing (which killed 6 people) also not by Ay-rabs, but white American Neocons?
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PA is basically a commie-troll; he plays the role of a manospherian, but he really is a little commie agent designed to sew discord and dissent. His techniques are very reminiscent of the old KGB disinformation campaigns; would not be surprised if his i.p. address or pay checks came from Israel or the eastern bloc.
One key KGB strategy was to promote conspiracy theories that implicated wrong doing on the part of the u.s. govenrment. The KGB was foremost in playing up the JFK conspiracy theories , partly in self-preservation (a soviet-defector communist killing a u.s. president obviously makes the USSR the prime mover suspect).
These 9/11 nutcase theories are part and parcel of that KGB stuff, despite most being utter nonsense on stilts. But PA, like all true leftists, just keeps repeating the Big Lie.
Commie-stooge rape!
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Jews aren’t White.
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Jews aren’t White.
Explain. What is your definition of ‘white’?
And in case you didn’t know, Bush, Cheney, and Rumsfeld, are not Jews. They are as white as white can be.
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http://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/2014/12/ashkenazi-jews-are-not-white/
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If Jews weren’t considered White, the de-whitification of greater NYC would be as obvious as that of Detroit.
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Apparently, Sean Fielding (who has been exposed as having an IQ of 70-75) :
i) Cannot debate himself, and can only post links that don’t support his claim.
ii) Thinks all Jews are Ashkenazi Jews.
In fact, in America, half-Jews are as common as full Jews (of which only some are Ashkenazi Jews).
In appearance, Jews are white, so they are white.
Plus, this buttfucka-roni didn’t address the point that Bush, Cheney, and Rumsfeld are not Jews. He just posted a link thinking that suffices (typical).
Low IQ, Sean Fielding is.
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In their own way, it is obvious to Jews.
Here’s a Jewish movie reviewer, criticizing a Jew’s movie, for creating a faux vision of NYC – faux because insufficiently Jewish.
http://www.salon.com/1998/12/18/reviewa_12/
These jameleons know they’re not really white.
My apologies in advance for inducing a widespread urge to shower on CH by linking to Salon.
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Above @ corvinus.
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Yeah, weakened steel, that’ why there were NO intact bodies among the wreckage nor were there crushed desks, file cabinets, or any other typical office funiture detritus; it was all blown to smithereens by controlled demolitions.
Weakened steel would bend, not collapse into a nice neat footprint ready to be removed in a short period of time.
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Virtually all of the fuel from the airplanes was spent in the fireball on impact. No steel-frame high-rise has ever collapsed due to fire, including day-long raging infernos. Until each of the twin towers collapsed cleanly into its own footprint. And then a third high-rise a football field away collapsed in solidarity with its big brothers.
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A one-hour introduction to the subject, created and presented by credible (and brave) professionals in fields that include architecture, structural engineering, demolition, chemistry, and others.
It is well worth your time.
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“In appearance, Jews are white, so they are white.”
In appearance, coral snakes are milk snakes, so they are milk snakes.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mimicry
[CH: jews are a white ethnicity with considerable middle eastern blood.]
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It’s playing the ‘define race’ game of the enemy, but since CH has weighed in, for which I’m grateful, I’ll give my opinion:
Biologically, Jews are a sub-race of the Caucasian race, intermediate between the White sub-race and the West Asian sub-race. There is good autosomal DNA evidence for this.
Culturally, the effect of Jews is by far the greatest anti-White force in existence. Whatever anti-White animus other races have would threaten us no more than a gnat, if it were not for the power of Jewry.
The term ‘ethnic’ implies a blend of biology and culture. Because of the fuzzy margins in the biology of race, I like the ethnic approach to race – it’s important to me to include a cultural component in the concept.
Biologically, Jews are only a little distant from European Whites. Culturally, to me they are our mortal enemies, however few or many of them or us are capable of recognizing it. So putting the two together in an ethnic view of race, Jews are most definitely not White.
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Ethnicity as I’ve outlined it may leave too much wiggle room for some.
If a pure biological approach is preferred, note that even if the overall genetic distance between Whites and Jews is close, if the key genes that cluster differentially between us are important enough, the net effect would still be to make us two behaviorally very different races.
These would be genes contributing to Jewish verbal intelligence and ethnocentrism say, and White trust and empathy on the other hand. The kind of differences that, together with the sheer difference in numbers, create a host-parasite relationship.
The problem is we don’t know much about such genes yet. We do know about the overall genetic distance.
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It might be time for the term “Aryan” to make a comeback if we’re going to start calling Semitic Jews “white.” Are Saudi Arabians and Lebanese white also?
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nobody is white when hung from a tree.
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Ya’ll know Mike Wallace settled the Jew / White issue…
http://trutube.tv/video/8273/Mike-Wallace-admits-he-is-Jewish-and-NOT-white
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anon2, you child: in this context white means “northern European Christian background” and Jews do not consider themselves “white”. in fact it is obvious that the International Jew has been working to destroy “white” civilization for 100 years.
jews are not white and they are the first to say so.
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And whitey’s on the moon.
Just when I was beginning to think that maybe just maybe the doomsayers had a point, here comes solid evidence that they are hopelessly befuddled in the age of the internet when it comes to good sourcing. It’s a relief, actually.
If the conspiracy were as effective as suggested, there would be more reliable-sounding whistleblowers, and dissent like the above would not exist. Smelling bullshit on the internet is a key skill in the 21st century. Of course devious plots happen, but they at least have to be consistent with their own internal logic, and they leave behind better evidence. You fellows are getting into The-Apollo-Mission-Was-Staged territory. Amirite, Jimmy Blönde?
Matt
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Jet fuel can not melt steel?
well I’m no expert but I know for a fact that most jet fighters until a few years ago could only use the afterburner for a few seconds at a time because the heat from the burning jet fuel would…you guessed it… melt the engine…which is made of different steel alloys…
They now have better alloys that can resist that sort of high heat, but when they built the twin towers almost 50 years ago they did not have those alloys and they had no reason to use them in towers that are not supposed to be covered in burning jet fuel.
by the way how do we melt steel? with FIRE!!!
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The only answer to Islam is National Socialism aka Racial Socialism. It is a contemporary worldview that trumps Islam because it is based on the acknowledgement and the importance of race.
The world needs leadership, and the prophet Adolf Hitler has left us the blueprint for success.
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The only people Hitler killed were other whites.
Troll.
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Troll…ololozz
What do you do when someone threatens you and attacks your family?
Do you cower like a little bitch, or do you Man Up and fight?
Thanks to CH for letting my link stand. I would encourage anyone interested to listen to Mein Kampf on audiobook. All of the answers are there for those brave enough to swallow the BIG RED PILL.
One of my favorite quotes… “If, with the help of his Marxist creed, the Jew is victorious over the other peoples of the world, his crown will be the funeral wreath of humanity and this planet will, as it did millions of years ago, move through the ether devoid of men.”
We are witnessing the results of the Marxist creed playing out in real time. Enjoy being YKW-ed.
Are you Jewish?
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Are you Jewish?
No, I just think socialism is faggotty.
That you support it exposes you as weak, lazy, and unproductive.
Plus, almost all the people Hitler killed were white. The Germans who died by his orders, French, Polish, Russian, Norwegian, British, etc. Only whites died, and certainly no one darker than a Greek (going by the melanin level of Jews, not their religion).
You idolize the person who resulting in millions of white deaths, even if you don’t count Jews.
What a dumb buttfucka-roni you are.
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Anon2 is, most likely, a Jewish poster pretending to be non-Jewish. If someone spends enough time reading the comments left by Jewish posters, there is a similar writing style that they use. And they are also very obsessive about leaving comments, months after months, in reaction to issues that are important to jews.
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How old are you, thirteen?
In NS Germany, EVERYBODY worked for the community, or they went to camp, where they worked.
“That you support it exposes you as weak, lazy, and unproductive.”
I am a business owner that had his first paper route at 9 years old and have been working my entire life. Lazy, weak, and unproductive? LMFAO… if I saw you in person I would be forced to bitch-slap you into next week.
Obviously, you’re riddled with Jew-think, as you are incapable of realizing that England and France declared war on Germany for having the audacity to reclaim German lands stripped from them in the Treaty Of Versailles. So in actuality it was NOT Germany responsible for those deaths, but rather the “allies” that you knob-slobber over.
So you just carry on thinking your Capitalist, Libertarian, Jewish nightmare of a worldview will have the strength to defend itself against the threat of Islam.
Why will extremists always win? Because they are FUCKING EXTREME, and they are willing to die for their beliefs.
Are you willing to die for Democracy. Capitalism, Homosexuality, Rap Music, Twerking, Gender Identity, and every other form of degeneracy smothering the West in filth?
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I’ve had several years experience dealing with people on psychiatric medication…enormous increases in murder\suicide.
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I’m a pilot, and if Germany is anything like the FAA, there isn’t a depression (or anti-psychotic) medication you can be prescribed which doesn’t immediately invalidate your medical certificate. Even the stop smoking drug Chantix invalidates your medical. Any drug does, if it’s mood altering at all, plus pain meds (real or synthetic opiates), and more. Google FAA medication or go to AOPA and look up medications and FAA. Since that’s likely part of a bilateral ICAO agreement, I’ll wager Germany is exactly the same. Go look at the disallowed list, it’s quite impressive.
I’ll wager he was simply a depressed loser who pancaked the plane rather than get on medication in the first place. That kind of medication = no more being a pilot. There are people I know who’ve had their medicals denied for diagnoses and / or meds they were prescribed in high school.
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I agree with Alex. Have friends who are commercial pilots. IF they need to take anything, their wives get a script and then the husband uses it. It’s stupid because it just forces the pilot’s to either forgo real treatment, or take meds without any physician oversight. Close friend is senior pilot with ***** and takes Xanax to help him sleep. Has to do it all in secret. Stupid.
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can you be an alcoholic?
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Jim LOVES the movie Flight.
The brotha ended up in prison all the same, ya feel me? After flying upside down and shit.
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Im drunk right now
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Yeah, I remember the last time some beep booping libertarians ran into some jihadis. RIP jihadis! You should have brought more dakka.
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What do they expect?
Suicide is now the seconded biggest killer of young Men in the west. And yet our fem-vote obsessed governments still refuse to spend any money tackling or even researching it.
Predictably, our gyno-centric media has also all but ignored what many medical experts have started calling “The Silent Epidemic” of male suicide.
The only time it seems to even rate a mention, is when they take a few women down with them.
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I am more cynical. The elites engineered this because they wanted to create a new example of a white male terrorist so as to run interference for Muslims.
Timothy McVeigh was used for years as an excuse to not blame Islam for 9/11 (or the 30 other terrorist attacks they conducted in other countries). But as McVeigh was 20 years ago and the new crop of leftoids don’t know about him, they need a new one.
All this is just to give the people who scream ‘Islamophobe’ an excuse to point to the 1% of terrorism not done by Muslims.
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that is a good point. the leftists will take sides with the muslims and say “see, white men commit terrorism too”. as if that somehow made the rise of islam less of an issue, if anything we just have 2 issues now to talk about.
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This is almost exactly 20 years, to the month, after Timothy McVeigh. Almost too perfect timing of a ‘we need a new white male terrorist to hold up as an example for the next generation’.
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… a delicate balance, because if post-christian whitey internalizes the idea that terrorism GETS things done, watch out… Breivik was a bite-size snack.
Less bloodily, but with wider applicability, “exposing imperial nakedness” a la Snowden.
oink
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because they wanted to create a new example of a white male terrorist so as to run interference for Muslims.
Well, we should find out soon whether or not he did in fact attend a radical mosque in Bremen. The leftoids are definitely keeping far too quiet about his religion, and instead are going on the attack and attempting to disqualify those who suggest that he may have been muzzie.
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Why would the elite give a shit about Muslims so as to run interference for them? Muslims are at most, merely pawns like the rest – it’s not like those in power actually care for the proles.
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The women wept: “So that’s where all the good guys have gone.”
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from the Mail, it says he had only 600 hours experience, it mentioned another man with 6000 equaling 10 years exp so let’s say he has been a pilot for 1 year. Just prior to this he experienced burnout and depression apparently but was later cleared. So, these early signs of something wrong were there, the supposed breakup, if it happened, came recently. It is more likely that these early signs of mental illness foreshadowed this event than not, so I think we can assume there was something mentally off about him prior to any of the romantic hypotheses. A breakup would likely be distressing regardless but it is more questionable that it was the cause, assuming it happened.
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$10000000 dollars/euros/shekels says the crash site becomes a pilgramage for lonely eurowomen who leave flowers and talk about how great he was, and all convert to islam.
Like Jim Morrison, who, despite dying before she was born, had his poser on Reese Witherspoon’s wall growing up, to which she said, “Good morning, Jim,” to everymorning.
Live fast, die young, leave a spectacular corpse….one way or another.
Rock star rape!
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Rather than the monster he is already being portrayed as in many parts of the media, this young man is just another victim of the times we live in.
A victim of “The Silent Epidemic”. Which, as mentioned before, is now the second biggest killer of young men in the west.
Even if he is found, as H suspects, to have recently converted to islam he is still just another victim… [converting to a backward, self-destructive religion, is just another convoluted form of suicide]
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You mean the second biggest killer of young white men in the West.
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[…] Source: Heartiste […]
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Hope it is true he converted just what PEGIDA needs
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OT: Real Talker on Fox is suspended/fired. Libtard alt-weekly writer says it’s a ‘tragedy’ that he Real Talked, but it’s OK a black woman said there should be more cops shot.
http://blogs.dallasobserver.com/unfairpark/2015/03/hey_the_kid_apologized_what_do_you_want_professional_grievers.php
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Germanwings are hastily removing all their adverts from the London Underground because of the caption.
“Germanwings. Prepare to be surprised.”
(seriously)
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This is the dumbest blog on the internet, Love climbing inside the minds of true loserdom.
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Glad you could join us.
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So you’re the guy who plays the computer whiz on all those tough hip-hugger-wearing lady detective shows?
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elmer for the win
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And we love living inside yo’ haid, rent-free.
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Pleasureman’s description of scale, i.e. social atomization under a gigantic society ever increasing (and contradictory in complexity) with a rotten managerial class is spot on. Lubitz seems a beta male with mental problems lacking any sort of cultural or social support. There will be more like him.
The West always had crazy people. Generally, they targeted famous people. This is different.
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whiskey, why don’t you blog any more? I love those “girls HATE HATE HATE beta” riffs.
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whiskey only came up with that one good sentence in his entire life.
That is not enough upon which to be a worthwhile blogger.
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Please don’t get him started on black males.
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Ive read that this guy ordered a new audi for his GF. So whether the primal (de)motivation or not, he was definitely a beta. On another note, US army mission in Afghanistan suffered more casualties from suicides than taliban bullets. So long, Western culture.
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Most guys in the military suicide because their girlfriends/wives dump them for other cocks while they are away.
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In WW2, 200 days in continuous combat — less than 7-months — made you a psychiatric casualty.
Military psychiatry has improved a whole lot since 1941-45. However, most long service (10+ years) American military are on their 4th-to-5th tour in Iraq or Afghanistan.
For US Army troops that works out to 48 to 60 months.
The higher suicide rates of deployed troops in Afghanistan reflects that fact.
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I can’t think of a better way to guarantee that the US will lose the next real war it is in than to expose its soldiers to the divorce industry while they are deployed. I won’t go so far as to say that spouses who cheat on their deployed husbands should be court-martialed for treason… but I can hardly think of a better way to undermine military effectiveness than to have that kind of thing hanging over soldiers’ heads while they’re at war.
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“or received the order from the book of terror, the Quran, ”
Do these semen slurpers not cringe internally as they write this shit?
If Islam is about terror, why do 90%+ of muzzies disagree? Checkmate neocrusaderscum.
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In hoc signo vinces, you mud croissant.
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That’s some nice latin there, recalling the holy revelation to the great Emperor Constantine. It wasn’t that cross though – it was the Chi-Ro.
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Islam is not the problem. Sharia Law is. The debate in the muslim world is how quickly can they implement it world wide. Let death spiral birth rates clobber the West or death and destruction. And only a very brave muslim will deny he wants Sharia Law you mental midget.
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Funny, I grew up in a Muslim family, and we usually had far more important things to be concerned about than imposing Sharia Law on a bunch of white people. I guess it’s how liberals keep fantasizi…er, fretting about how those evil Christian fundamentalists are going to enslave all the atheists and kills all the gays any day now…
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@Ardalain ‘Christian fundamentalists’ have as much power as a dry flamingo fart. Plus they try to win the argument(which I don’t adhere too) without strapping TNT to themselves. And who said anything about ‘white people?’ Are you implying that the Nigerians battling the Islamic savages are white? Or that Coptic Christians are white? Or the battle in Sri Lanka was about keeping down the evil white? You can evade the reality that the Caliphate is on the move, but you can’t evade the consequences of evading that reality. Europe, surprise surprise – not just whites, are about to find out sooner rather than later.
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If you think you’ve won the match by consoling us Westerners that “only” 10% of Islam is cause for concern, well… :duckface
I’ve used this analogy often, here, and I’ll use it again:
When there’s a hornet’s nest in the area, you avoid it… sure, most of the hornets are “good” hornets who won’t sting you… problem is, by the time you can tell the good from the bad, it’s too late.
Further… the good hornets will never, EVER side with you against their fellow hornets.
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I like your analogy. I also like the 10% dog shit in the ice cream container. It is all contaminated. Who wants a scoop?
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It improves the dog shit considerably… but does little for the ice cream.
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Nah, here’s the better syllogism:
What do you call a drop of wine in a barrel of sewage? Sewage.
What do you call a drop of sewage in a barrel of wine? Sewage.
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if you convert now, when you go to prison you can convert again and be a double Muslim doing triple life.
nobody fucks with you. Convert early and avoid the rush.
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That works.
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One could also ask ; how come about 99% of terror acts are committed by Muslims?
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I didn’t really buy that posted link about Lubitz being a Muslim convert but then I saw this…
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2015/03/breaking-german-news-germanwings-airbus-co-pilot-was-muslim-convert/
If those screenshots of his Facebook are real….
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Not his facebook. Read more carefully.
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Why libertarians? You think Ron Paul is sympathetic to Islamicists? Or do you mean “liberal” instead?
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Worried for a minute yesterday cause of the ESL and the manifestation of spergy rage, but then I saw Arbiter post and I felt an immediate relief that OUR little buddy was OK.
Who knows but dude looks pretty BetaTwinked out to me.
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The media is reporting that this dickhead had about 600 hours of total time. Here in the U.S. even a copilot of a turbojet powered commercial airliner is required to hold an “Airline Transport Pilot” (ATP) rating which requires a minimum of 1500 hrs total time. How was this homo not still instructing in piston twins at 600 hours? Are the ICAO standards that different from the FAA? Can an ATP holding Chateau resident help me out here?
As for muzzies… yep they’re poised for a booming (heh) market in converts from the post-masculine west.
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The American requirement for an ATP ticket is only 18 months old; it’s a rule promulgated in the aftermath of the Colgan fiasco in Buffalo. Until recently, then, in the USA (as in Europe today) all that is required is a Commercial license, which requires only 250 hours.
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Sorry, “… all that WAS required WAS a Commercial …” You were flying with unqualified noobs on the commuters until quite recently.
Also:
a. the fact that taking medications of virtually any kind disqualifies American pilots simply means, as noted above, that pilots either self-medicate or fly damaged or have a cash-basis relationship with a physician whom they trust.
b. pilots have a direct relationship with the Aviation Medical Examiner, who does not work for the airline that employs the pilot.
c. pilots self-report their historical medical, drinking, drug use, drunk driving, reckless driving. It’s a felony to not report accurately, but there’s a reason why one’s AME is NEVER one’s personal physician. My AME has restored to flying status people with meth, heroin, blow, addictions; drunks, former drunks, heart attack victims, and on and on.
d. The AME is appointed by the FAA. He issues the flight medical. The medical is presented to the airline. Unless someone rats out the damaged pilot, which is extremely rare, his disabilities are maintained in the shadows.
/3500 hours, piston and turbojet (two LOAs), not an airline pilot.
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I have a girlfriend, incidentally, who is a surgeon. She has a cash-basis relationship for a specific medicine with a trusted fellow physician.
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MANY people in GenAv that fly around without a license at all. 😉
Who’s gonna pull you over hahahaha.
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Another SJW loses his job thanks to his SJWing:
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2015/03/hateful-leftist-jerk-now-on-food-stamps-after-posting-abusive-chick-fil-a-video/
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Hilarious schadenfreude.
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One of the best songs about West’s arc of descent — and hope of rebirth:
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what country you from?
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What ain’t no country I ever heard of.
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You know exactly where he’s from, thwack.
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i dont remember asking you a god damn thing
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Funny because that is a song made by people from my corner of the world; the province of Quebec in Canada where most people speak French ( as I do )
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I look for evidence that Lubitz converted to Islam and all I find is bullshit.
Sometimes having an objective mind in the blogosphere is like standing outside the ape exhibit at the zoo.
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The internet is an amplifier of the human condition…
… and that’s seldom a good thing. 😡
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Re whether Lubitz was a muslim convert: Follow your own link to the story http://universalfreepress.com/report-germanwings-co-pilot-recent-convert-islam/. Then notice that the source cited by this UFP rag (for Lubitz was a muslim) is the home page of this German magazine: http://www.pi-news.net/. Then use Google translate to read the only article on Lubitz in that magazine: http://www.pi-news.net/2015/03/der-psychopathische-massenmoerder-ein-anderer-blickwinkel/.
Nowhere in that article does it assert Lubitz was a muslim convert. If there was an earlier article on this site claiming that, the site has pulled it. Just scroll through the entries of the last 2 days on this site to confirm this.
I haven’t read your blog but you do realize that the other people citing this same false UFP story is the Stormfront.org brainiacs?
If such people are your fellow travellers, I apologize for pointing out the error of your ways. You’re clearly doing the best you can.
[CH: why so serious?]
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I tried translating a few times hoping the juicy Islam conversion story line would materialize.
Isn’t insanity doing the same thing over and expecting different results…? 😉
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Narcissist now proven, psychopathic bent follows.
Essentially Andreas Lubitz was another Brevik personality type.
If Lubitz really was a convert, then that will add immense volumes of kerosene to the “reactionary” arguments against the currently triumphant Leftist Islamophobia cant.
The implications of “Anyone in your neighborhood can be turned into death cultist next door by any radical Mosque in your country” are going to “bend like Beckham” the Leftist arguments on Islamophobia in ways very…bloodthirsty.
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Speaking of flight, come take a ride on the intergalactic pimpmobile :
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/60-seconds-inside-the-mind-of-an-astrophysicist
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I’m pretty sure most Islamic converts are all, to some degree, beta or omega or dbag
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Shit goes bad. All. The. Time.
Was he depressed over a woman? Was he Islamified? Did he not get enough hugs as a child? One cannot know for certain what his malfunction was when he decided to self deliver, but what i do know is that the West might as well rename itself “The Land of Broken Toys”
Next time you are at work take a real good look at the people you work with. Ask yourself, how much could they endure before they go off the rails?
Reminds me of that scene in The Thing. “Watch Clark”
There will be more of this, much more. Western world is coming apart and all i got was a mountain side of debris? Muh Feels are hurt.
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The center cannot hold.
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Great post. I am more optimistic on the question of quality, of the people stuck at the office.
Or at least neutral (on that question).
People having not been put to the test, is what is killing them.
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when its your time to go, its your time to go; but when its the pilots time to go, its your time to go too.
just sayin
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Chit-chat out here is that Shin Bet psychologists have developed a profile: middle-aged, shlubby Palestinian guy who barely has his head above water financially, is under the thumb of a fatso wife, and sees no path out of this.
It is quite clear that these fellows don’t “fanatically believe” in the 72-virgins thing…. but think it’s worth a gamble to find out. Anyway, in their real daily life – there’s “nothing left to lose”.
There are also younger “shahids”. I haven’t heard any gossip about profiling for those types. Profiles are pretty iffy. But sometimes, its all we ‘ve got.
I myself have neutral feelings towards Islam-as-such. The Israeli Circassian community (Caucasian-race muslims who arrived in northern Galilee in the 1840’s, after the Circassian Genocide – probably the modern world’s first) are mellow people who have THE highest rate of compliance with conscription in the State of Israel. Many, many of them serve out a full 20 years to get the pension.
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As predictable as the sun rising in the east comes the same old tired line – following a mass airplane crash – ” there are ties to moslem terrorism”. Trotted out and blared loudly from every media organ available. All controlled behind the scenes by AIPAC of course. This scenario had become so predictable it has long since lost any plausibility. now in this instance the” motive” follows on the heels of a 100-0 by that cast of misfits- otherwise known as the US Senate- who voted on doubling down on sanctions for Iran. Another false flag ? – meh …never, totally preposterous say the lumpen boobs.
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Lolzlolzlolz
Hire a woman, hire a problem.
http://time.com/3762254/kleiner-perkins-ellen-pao-sex-bias/
And this bitch is now the CEO of Reddit.
Feminism is out of control.
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“Reports this morning suggested the pilot may have been badly affected by a “relationship crisis” and was struggling to cope following a break-up with his girlfriend – who he was due to marry next year.”
Of course. I called it from the beginning. No other explanation seems plausible. Plus, he had the face of a beta with “sump me!” written all over it.
C’mon guys, this was an easy one.
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I don’t know about the libertarians you’ve met, but in my experience it’s overwhelmingly the case that libertarians are well armed and willing to defend themselves. If the shit ever hits the fan enough that beheadings are an actual threat domestically, the laws against self defense aren’t gonna stop anyone from doing what has to be done. See the ‘looters will be shot’ neighborhoods when Katrina hit.
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Man drowns himself after seeing ugly bride for the first time http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3273177/posts
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He hadn’t been able to get a glimpse of her because it was an arranged marriage, which he had been forced into.
This stupidity of arranged marriages would explain why Asians generally don’t have any game. Which leads to things like Chinese culture praising ugly women as better wives.
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@Corvinus and a big reason why hot Chinese girls have an expectation that guys will chase them no matter what they do…so they pull drama and then guys supplicate and follow or chase.
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With the death of /duck/, there’s a new NRx posting board /aristoi/ at:
https://8ch.net/aristoi/catalog.html
check it out!
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Left comment. I think it went to spam filter.
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Clues Forum.info has a great thread going on the fakery done in latest hoax jet crash .
http://www.cluesforum.info/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=1786
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http://universalfreepress.com/report-germanwings-co-pilot-recent-convert-islam
attributes the news to one Michael Manheimer at German site http://www.pi-news.net (very un-PC) without linking the corresponding post’s url. Presently, there’s no post of that kind at pi-news.net; if there was, it has been deleted. At Mannheimer’s blog there has been a post putting forward that claim–it’s deleted presently but still available in google’s cache:
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:yzLjkwEI9pkJ:michael-mannheimer.net/2015/03/26/copilot-der-airbus-ungluecksmaschine-war-islamkonvertit-er-steuerte-die-maschine-bewusst-gegen-den-berg
At pi-news.net commenters are pissed at Mannheimer’s speculations for being completely unsourced, I share that view having read the post above. I once had an email exchange with Mannheimer trying to explain to him how to properly source a claim–he wouldn’t understand and turned out to be a rather low watt bulb. Heartiste: too much, too soon, at least for now.
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Andreas Lubitz was not psychotic. He just had his prioriies muddled-up; like a brain dead teenager who thinks:”If I kill myself (and several others.. They will all feel so bad.!!!”
This is truth, not delusion. Everybody will feel really bad after you kill yourself (and the token others)
Seriously wrong long term future sense: check.
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Lmao. I like how everyone crying beta boy Islam this and that,yet Islam is the only religion not overrun by feminazis and LGBT faggots.The crux of societal Islam is designed to keep the men in charge as it ought to be. Islam knows how to keep fuck-wits in check…. I’m ignoring the fact that the OP has zero credible evidence of any negative Islamic influence on the pilot. But understandably OP is a die-hard FOX news broadcaster.
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Clip from a short film “Pasternak” (in Spanish; English subtitles) released last year. People on a plane all discover that they know (and have mistreated) a guy named Pasternak, who turns out to be a crew member. Pasternak completes his revenge on the world by locking himself in the cockpit and flying the plane directly into his parents’ house.
Andreas Lubitz must surely have seen this movie.
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So how long to manufacture a 8 minute tape with some breathing, door knock, and some final muffled screams in the back? This is not the first Airbus to fly into the side of a mountain.
oink
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there are far more mentally ill people than detected thru chimp outs and visible freaking…
Ive known 3 people who killed themselves;
guess what color they were?
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[…] Yesterday, I speculated on motives for co-pilot Andreas Lubitz’s murderous sabotage of the plane he flew into a moutain. Three of my speculations appear to be strong possibilities, based on the most current evidence come to light. […]
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@CH, Scale is an important observation. Let’s say a supersexy Alpha is born 1 per 100 males. In a small town the Alphas are few, rare and quickly locked down. He flashes and fades like a star.
In a big city, the Alphas can group at certain locales (nightclubs) or can be available per smartphone/Tinder technology to create a permanent females-dicking continuum. They get endless pussy variety, while all the females get their Top1% sexy stripper and the ride will never end.
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and right on cue
shenanigans involving ANOTHER 320.
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What is SCALE? Please define; not found on any web-based acronym finder. On mobile phone; no time to search ChatHeart on laptop. Thx
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