A reader needs game advice, stat. Time is of the essence, so think hard and think fast, like you would have to do if you were in the reader’s shoes right now.
At the coffee shop there’s a cute girl in line waiting for her drink. She’s wearing daisy dukes with red tights underneath; she has a yoga mat and a big black purse that would comfortably fit a bowling ball. Her back is turned but we’re standing close; she does two very subtle periphery glances – a short one and a longer one lasting about 5 seconds – I am unapologetically checking her out and she knows it. If there was any doubt, she sets her bag down on the floor in front of the bar and bends over in front of me. Then she sits down just to the left of the bar with her back still turned – there’s a chair to her right, but it has a sumi ink station and won’t be a good work space for my computer.
How do I open-to-close a girl in a coffee shop with her back turned that is deliberately trying to create sexual tension? If I clown I can open her, but I’ll kill the vibe. How do I keep the energy up without saying something so offensive that I get kicked out?
“sumi ink station”? fuck this fey earth.
Don’t worry about getting kicked out. If you worry about that, you’ve already failed. Worrying about bad consequences with tiny odds of occurring will stunt your inner game.
Forget any sexual stuff. This is, I assume, day game, in a coffee shop. If you immediately go sexual after she nonverbally flirted with you, she’ll perceive you as a desperate horndog, eager to chomp on her cockteaser beta bait.
You could implicitly call her out for glancing around, and then gently chastise her form. (This is a flip-the-mating-script category of opener.)
“It’s fun to check out the goods in a coffee shop. But the trick is to do it with some subtlety.”
This line of attack would require sitting near her, which would mean sitting at the sumi ink station (again, wtf). It would also encourage further conversation.
If sitting near her isn’t an option, then on your way walking past her, say,
“If you need some more time to check me out, I’ll be sitting over there.”
Likewise, this line is about assuming the sale and putting yourself in the “chasee” role. Chicknip.
Another option: Leverage your surroundings. Dawdle for a bit around the sumi ink chair as if you’re deciding to sit or not, and say,
“If I sit here I won’t get any work done. I’ll be distracted by… the ink.”
Anyhow, that’s all I got atm. Commenters, fire away.
“You know… It’s rude to stare.” has worked for me on several occasions.
[CH: forgot about this shortnsweet classic line. shame on me, since i’ve used it too.]
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Next time just draw a big cock n’ balls on the sumi ink station
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If you made a production of it, and really sold it (chin scratching, slow and deliberate strokes,) I bet she’d laugh her ass off
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i think this is the direction i’d go, and i think maybe simplified versions of 3 or 4 in this would be great to have in your repertoire anyway:
might be too much work though, especially with her putting out the vibe already. definitely sit down, and then:
– ignore the ink and work, and tell her she’ll need yoga less if she doesn’t have to crane her neck to see you.
– or draw a shitty stick figure of yourself and push it over to her, “it’ll last longer”.
a lot of easy options
work gives you a real time constraint, you can number close and go do your thing. or i suppose drop work if it looks like you could take it further. any of these will be better than going and working and stealing glances til you’re a creep. 3 SECOND RULE
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“You do that yoga stuff? Can you put both legs behind your head?”
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wait, i have the answer!!!!
You have a chick that you say is CLEARLY interested, so OBVIOUSLY the correct think to do is SPERG OUT and fucking overanalyze every minute detail for the scientifically PERFECT pickup line!!!!!!
Just walk over and say hey how you doing. SAY IT WITH BALLS and it doesn’t MATTER WHAT YOU SAY. Alphas don’t agonize over what to say to a bitch! They just make shit happen.
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Hey… tried heat yoga? its great… And take it from there. Let her tell you about her yoga class and etch.
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Yoga yes, but neg her.
“No way you can sit full lotus. I can, but of course, yoga was created by men, for men. You’re welcome.”
Or
Ever done naked yoga? It’s a real thing, I assure you. You look like you might be too timid to try it though.
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[…] A Test Of Your Game: Coffee Shop Close […]
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[…] By CH […]
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“Excuse me….can you tell me where the nearest pet store is?”
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“What country you from?”
works on ALL girls ALL the time and im sure you know why.
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You’ve used that very line on me several times! I never knew you cared. My taint is all gooseflesh now.
Matt
P.S. I’m from the united States of America.
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look, I try to help you guys out despite your hostility towards all things non frost bitten. You can hate the game without hating the players, its allowed.
I gave you guys this easy “knock” because it works; what you do when they open the door is up to you.
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Such a magnanimous soul, to yet help those who want to extinguish you! You are The Giving Tree in the orchard of The Chateau.
Or is it another manifestation of the deep masochism of your race? You don’t have to destroy yourselves, you just have to accept your worldly inferiority with the consolation that it is infinitesimal in the eyes of your maker, who loves his infinitely imperfect creatures equally.
LOVE2HATEME
HATE2LOVEME
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It takes some balls but just go up to her, give her your profile and tell her that this may sound strange but you noticed her yoga mat and it makes her look interesting. There is a million directions you both could go with this line. Sit down when she seems open and chat on.
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“If you’re going to visually rape me, the least you could’ve done was buy my coffee for me.”
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You look french. Is someone in you family french? Seems to work well with most women.
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Re: the twitter thread regarding blue being the new orange. Blue was used less in oil paintings in the past because blue was by far the most expensive color to make.
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Sit down at the ink station and draw some stick figures, then ask her to critique your artwork.
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Start with ‘hi’ or ‘hello’. Then go off something in the environment. You’ll find out all you need to know within the starting moments of the interaction.
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I wouldn’t do that because the flirty vibe is already there. Why tone it down with this trite stuff?
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Because you are still essentally strangers.
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The direct approach is seldom tried, it’s refreshing when it’s heard.
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absolutely. no need to overthink.
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We really do overthink this stuff. Gran Torino had a great scene about how to talk.
You can do the overtly flirty stuff when you know each other better.
[CH: cleverness is a fitness trait in men which women find attractive. if you’re good at it, don’t hide it.]
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“I’m stumped: I can’t think of a single pick-up line that’d work on you. Would you write down your phone number on this napkin while I think some more?”
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Heh.
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That’s bad. At least girls here would just laugh AT you. If they’re mean, they’d give you a sarcastic answer or just plain out write a fake number on the napkin. You need to at least make it seem like what you say isn’t canned.
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True, but it buys time and opens conversation, even if she’s laughing at you.
And it has the distinct advantage of authenticity, which is hard to fake.
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It has the same advantage of authenticity any non-specific canned line does.
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Take out some paper and mention you enjoy centering during sumi-e right before yoga.
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If you need the structure, hi or hello are ok but are a little too classic. Open with whats up or hows it going or how are you-something like that-if at all. Then an anchor that may or may not be genuine or unique such as I noticed or this may sound strange but–something along those lines.
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Does everything really have to be a witty opener? Why not go with “Hey what’s up” and then smoothly escalate the teasing while going through a normal conversation.
You: “What are you reading”
Her: (50 Shades of Gray or some stupid chick novel).
You: Oh thank god, I assumed that you were just like all the others. Way to prove me wrong (smirking).
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This is a thought experiment designed to generate some new approaches, I think. Or to create something insightful we’d analyze. If so, yes, it has to be something witty.
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“Don’t worry about getting kicked out”
If you are scared the 90lb effeminate hipster barista can kick you out of the coffee shop you might as well just lop your balls off now.
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“Hey.” (with a grumpy face. Women like the grump for some reason, as long as you’re otherwise enjoying yourself; women have a sixth sense for bitterness — or the lack thereof.) “What’s up with that [choose something odd that she’s carrying or wearing] ?”
Works like a charm. Especially with obvious buying signals like that. They’ll smile, laugh, and start talking about it. Off to the races.
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Colombia for the win.
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Write your digits on the Sumi Ink Pad. Add a note, “When we have more time.” Then fold the note carefully. Wordlessly present Sumi note. Bonus points if you can get it in her bag. Extra bonus points if you use lipstick. She’ll tell everyone in her yoga about the mysterious Sumi-Man. Not a word.
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Ask her if she left room for cream. Your schlong is hanging out of your fly (obvs.). Impassive face.
Lean back and prepare for head.
Tight frame, boys. It’s all about frame.
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Film a video of yourself loudly wondering why no women ever fellate you on sight even thought you have a nice car and a beautiful face. Then spill your hot coffee on her back and use it as an excuse to clean up with your tongue. For extra boldness, spill hot coffee into her cleavage and then rush to grab napkins to clean it up. Knock tables and people over on your way. Bring her into your world. Shit your pants and then demand that she follows suit.
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“What (yoga) studio do you go to?”
One of literally dozens of angles you can go without appearing like a desperate little boy or a subtle approval seeker. From there, ask how long she’s been doing it, express your interest in it, talk about how things like this are hidden in the city (subject transition), etc. Seamless conversation.
For the reader: your goal shouldn’t be to get someone attracted to you by using a clever or entertaining line. Make it your communication goal to speak to anyone, anywhere and everywhere. Thus, when you get into situations like these, conversations come as second nature rather than as a forced reaction to one’s apparent beauty.
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And yet, all PUAs recommend building attraction before building rapport and you’d do the opposite. And considering she’s sending flirty signals to you, I doubt she wants to discuss her yoga class. She wants to have fun and giggle.
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“And yet, all PUAs recommend building attraction before building rapport and you’d do the opposite”
He’s already in A2. A3 would be him opening her (however he does it), so he can just go right into C1 (normal conversation shit like PermanentGuest described).
A1 = showing value. If she’s checkin’ him out and sending him obvious Approach Invites like that then he’s shown enough value for her to move things into A2.
A2 = female to male interest. She’s showing interest in him with all her flirty shit and eye-contact etc. she’s doing. So before he says anything he’s already achieved this. This makes it a Warm Approach with an AI, not a real Cold Approach. A2 is where a lot of Naturals start, it’s why a lot of Naturals 1) won’t cold approach for real, they often wait till they get a hard AI like this scenario before they’ll approach so they have a green light VS legit cold approach where the girl hasn’t shown any interest in advance, and 2) have pretty “boring” game where they just “make conversation…bro just ask her questions and listen to what she says and stuff”…they can do that because they’re starting from A2.
A3 = male to female interest (note that you wait till you’ve hooked her and she’s shown interest before you reward her with showing interest first…female to male interest comes FIRST). This is where the OP is starting out. Literally ANYTHING he does that pro-actively opens her is achieving A3, whether it’s a clever witty line, a “hi, my name is YaReally”, throwing a pen at her, doesn’t matter.
C1 = basic conversation about yoga or whatever. This CAN be more fun and witty and exciting conversation, but it doesn’t HAVE to be. Long as it pushes things in a sexual direction and towards the lay.
If a guy is getting THIS warm an approach and NOT approaching the girl, I would question if he’s actually into dudes. This scenario is like swinging at a T-Ball.
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YaReally, great chart!
Field report on dancing
1 a.m. country dance bar. I cold-approached and asked a late-20s broad if we had danced before when she was sitting next to a dude and she said that she wanted to dance. Her hand was on my waist to start and went lower. Minimal convo. She cupped a cheek, then fingered my crack. 0 to S1 in less than a minute. My main DHV was dancing and she couldn’t dance at all. I know a lot of people at the bar and chat them up some. She was drunk, maybe. I had had a couple of dance-gasms with other partners before I opened the fingering broad. DHVs.
Lots of broads were lasering me as I danced with the drunk broad.
Questions? Comments?
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@theasdgamer
“Questions? Comments?”
did you get buyer’s remorse?…lol…
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She was a 5 at best. Wasn’t really keen on her. Good material for my book, though.
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A dance-gasm is a really cool (ya, really cool) experience dancing. One was with an Iowegian doing West Coast Swing. First time dance partners. We connected well technically, so I decided to take her through some difficult moves and they worked great. Spun her out from a basket, then spun her back in to a rotating couple’s turn (telemark) to a drop, a rollout, then my right hand took her lower back around her right flank, then rolled her back in to a lean, where my right arm transversed her body. Then raised her out of the lean to the staccato beat of the music.
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Please see my latest blog post. “Building attraction” here is tantamount to convincing her to like you. This shouldn’t be your goal. Neither should it be your goal to entertain her like a circus monkey in order for her to laugh and feel good.
Also, familiarize yourself with the concept of covert communication. The importance here isn’t what comes out of your mouth, but your vibe. And if you’re the opposite of the reader who submitted the question, you’re an easygoing, charismatic guy who likes to have fun interactions with people at any given time.
One who lacks intuition (a man, obviously) will see it as a mundane conversation about a activity, while the intuitive person will see a sort of conversational dance taking place due to eye contact, mood, and vibe. This is where the flirting happens, which is essentially subtle play-fighting.
Again, you don’t need a blueprint (no pun intended) to talk to an attractive female. Just change your mindset and practice your conversation wherever you go. If she feels you, cool. If not, cool.
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she likes you. talk. give her a reason to say yes.
people don’t look at things they don’t like. tell her quietly that out of the two girlfriends (well……..one wasn’t a gf really but it was complicated because she SAID she was separated and you weren’t really looking to be a side dude but never-mind) you had that dressed like that one liked yoga and the other was just weird and seemed to like people to THINK she worked out but eh, not so much.
HEY! you aren’t some untrustworthy and sociopathic yoga-slash-workout faker are you? christ last time I barely got out of that hotel room with my kidneys…
and…..stop. say nothing.
ANY smile, any laugh or humor….go to asking for her number. then, stay fun and fresh, or you will donate the pooooosey to me!
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Ink station? Assuming you can use it, touch her shoulder on the way by and doodle her a flower. Give it to her and smile.
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“Pull my finger”
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Best opening line :
Detox my Buttox
-GB
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ink station. yin yang symbol. tarzan style, “me yang, you yin.” chest thumping tarzan yell optional.
hell, ask her if she wants her tarzan fully loaded, take it from there
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I think you were unto something with the first suggestion I would write down my number go up to her and say ““It’s fun to check out the goods in a coffee shop. But the trick is to do it with some subtlety” give it to her then just walk out.
There isn’t any room in the shop anyway so why hang around. This would be a double punch impression because you called her out and made her even more curious by walking out.
*Bonus points if you slap her ass and wink before you walk away.
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Reblogged this on XWorkx.
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“Who bitch you is?” or “Do you like skittles?”
Dude has to make a call here. Does he chase the poose or flip open his laptop? If you’re working, you’re not gaming and vice versa. Pick one, stay focused.
So if he’s gaming, hop up in the gay ink chair, and start her hamster spinning about the yoga. Done.
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I thought you guys were against sluts. If you’re going to stop feminism, you need to let girls like this know they are garbage.
So, ignore her disgusting antics, and go find a more decent girl.
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I’m not against sluts. They’re great for getting our dicks wet without the effort of marriage and relationships. And she will know she’s garbage when she won’t get more out of me than my sperm. Plus, I see no logical link between stopping feminism and letting sluts know they’re just sluts. Sluts have always been around and always will be around while feminism is just a passing fad.
Are you virgin? lol.
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Here’s an interesting girl who’s into fashion but consciously chooses to dress decently most of the time, unlike the fashion sluts here in America:
https://akviilee.wordpress.com/feed/
(from some small Eastern European country called Lithuania)
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She looks about 12 years old, you freak. Quit creeping after kids online. It undermines your ability to take the moral high ground over guys who, y’know, actually go and talk to adult women.
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How long have you been stalking online your perfect slavic unicorn? Go outside.
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ey yo gurl lemme holla at ya
u want sum fuk?
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Since I don’t know what the fuck a sumi ink station is (and am proud of it), I’d just stare at it and ask “what the fuck is this thing supposed to be?” Maybe give her a suspicious look as if she put it there.
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That’s both an excellent approach and a good way to filter out the pod-people koolaid-sucking un-persons: If she launches into some damned PhD level dissertation of outrage and butthurtness and tendentiousness about discrimination against “sumi ink station WTFE-ers”, then “Next!” But if she turns around and stares into your eyes and smiles and runs her hand through her hair, and says “I was wondering the same thing”, then congratulations: You might have just met the mother of your children.
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To not get thrown out: black op your words n facial expression.
Go slowly to the faggit station. Care yourself with a smirk and bravodo. Sit down. Look her dead in the eye and say: all the chairs were taken. U don’t mind do u? Smirk motherfucker.
Stealth and bravado ™
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Dean? The girl you’re chasing is unsalvageable; find someone else or you will be miserable in five years.
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Wait. A minute. You said she had a yoga mat. Why didn’t you just start a conversation (like a normal person) by asking her, “You do yoga?”
I find the best way to start conversations is by making curious observations about the surrounding environment, and since she’s obviously already interested in you, there’s no way you can fail except by doing NOTHING AT ALL (like you did because you weren’t sure how to “game” her).
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It’s so obvious you don’t really approach. On any quality girl, that wouldn’t work because she hears this trite stuff day in and day out. I’m Eastern European and girls here aren’t particularly cunty, but your question would prompt a sarcastic reply along the lines that no, that she’s just carrying yoga gear around so that uncreative losers can have something to talk to her about. Ask a question about yoga, but not something whose answer is obvious, especially if it’s a yes or no question.
And of course you can fail even if she’s interested in you. There’s a reason why I didn’t fuck all the girls that IOIed me.
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You can use normal conversation game and then ramp up. It’s safe and you get some props for opening her, she can see you are interested and have at least a little grit but if you can open her and set her hamster spinning, that’s the winning hand.
So she gets a dozen safe feelers a day, nice shoes, hair, skirt! etc… Snooze.
Try something that will make her remember you a little. something simple but from a cocky and confident frame. Not try hard. get her to smile or laugh a little and be chill about it.
“I don’t know how you do it” pointing at the yoga mat.. she will think you are talking about yoga or something. If she doesn’t say “do what” just plough on after a little pause “I couldn’t sleep on one of those things”… She will likely smile or laugh at this and proceed with “what’s wrong, you get kicked out of your house (or boyfriend kicked you out) or something and sleeping on the streets”. Say it with a smile in your eyes, not like a dick.
This gives her a little spike, and if she runs with it or A&A’s you (yeah I’m totally homeless can I have a dollar), well you got this now.
You see how this little burst sets you apart from everyone else? This stuff is what makes Game Game and not just another timid beta faking a conversation.
And fuck the ink station dude!!!! She is there for a coffee, she will be gone in 10 minutes, you go work then. LOL
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Is that a yoga mat, or are 21st century pimps just looking after their whores’ knees better these days?
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Everyone is way over thinking this.
She apparently performed a lot of pre-verbal flirting. So… make sure you read the signs right.
Opener
“Hey I noticed your mat do you go to a local studio?”
At this point she either engages with slight smile and full attention because she wanted you to make a move… or she’s a tease.
continue conversation about yoga – how you need to find a studio where you can work on your Warrior 3 or whatever. In my case I dated a yoga teacher so it’s easy for me to talk the lingo.
Exchange number AND email on the pretense to find out about local yoga studios. CLOSED. Take her to a tea place, then to a bar for a nice martini. kiss close. go for same day bang.
If a girl is posing like this for you she most likely is VERY interested in sexual activity RIGHT NOW. Don’t pause don’t wait. Time is of the essence.
In fact if a girl was stretch posing in front of me I would take it as her body screaming “I’m fertile TAKE ME!”… therefore re-arranging your day around this hottie in heat is what I would do. Taking a half day to bang a yoga girl is not be a bad way to spend an afternoon.
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you: “Justin Timberlake would be proud”
her: “huh”
you: “for bringing sexy back”
her: *whatever*
you: “how was yoga”
her” *whatever*
you: “I have work to do, and you’re too distracting. Give me your number.”
*get number and leave*
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Coffee House Raid
Have a question for CH. Wife has become very suspicious and wants to visit my favorite Coffee House with me in tow. I get the feeling she wants to do a full inspection. What do I do? I really like this particular place and have built some rapport with various patrons and baristas.
1. Tell her flat out NO and raise more suspicion.
2. Take her and not wear my wedding ring. Play off that she is just another gal interested in me.
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Your plan to allay your wife’s suspicion is take her there without your wedding ring? You’d be better off wearing work gloves.
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Don’t let your wife control your life. If you are at this point she needs to be punished.
She thinks you are fucking around you need to let her know that if she keeps this up you will. She is still under the impression that she can stop you from fucking around. Next time she asks to go to coffee shop disappear for the whole night. She will call and raise hell. Do not answer the phone and do not say anything when you get home. If she is not used to this there may be a lot of carrying on and crying and he’ll raising at first. This is normal. Stick to your guns. Whoever has the strongest frame wins.
If your wife already knows about your situation at the coffee shop that means your spinning plates strategy is working. Now move to another location where she does not know about. She should never know your stomping grounds.
Marriage is a fucking battlefield without game. With game it can be tolerable.
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Why should this cause any concern for you? In a LTR, this situation should provide you with useful preselection and pivots – pivots to/from your wife to/from the other girls there who you know.
That is unless either your wife is not as [relatively] attractive as the girls in the shop [lowers your value], or you have given the girls in the shop indications that perhaps you don’t have a wife [lowers your value]…
For me these situations are pure gold, keep the wife on her toes. And though she hates it, she also loves it. and that’s the nature of women…
So I go in to my local with the wife, who looks hot and girly in general and very hot for her age and boom, firs thing early 30’s manager greets me at the door, hand on my arm so glad to see me. This is a girl who has major eyes for me and I chat regularly with about her lack of finding guys, she always saying all the good ones are married… and we are shown to our seat. here our waitress is a early 20’s hottie I am always flirting with and she is bouncy and friendly and will often make some mention of some other time I was in solo, maybe a stray fragment of a conversation we left or something. Just a little breadcrumb… she takes our order and goes. While we wait another waitress will come by briefly and say hi…
My wife will do one of 2 things. If she is in a good mood, she will give me a wry smile and bust my balls, like “so is there anyone here now we haven’t met yet” or some shit like that… or if she is in a bad mood she will sit and quietly fume and give a few glares to me and the girls…
And my reaction is the same. Big smile to her “i love this place. Everyone is always so friendly”… and later, when we get to bed, she will be revved up. sad that this is how it works for women, but you can’t fight nature. Go with the flow…
It’s amusing to watch all the female subcomms and competing… they never rest these girls.
Have fun.
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“I’m curious, didn’t your parents ever tell you it’s impolite to stare at strangers…” with a shit eating grin on your face
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Tap her on her shoulder, give her your phone and demand she give you in her number
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*Tap her on her shoulder, give her your phone and demand she give you her number. While not saying a word with a shit eating grin on your face
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It is important to be playful, not merely engaging, with an opener. Not all of CH’s openers were playful. The broad was seeking validation; neg her need for validation. Even though the neg is overtly sexual, it is playful; the broad opened the door, so you shouldn’t be afraid to walk thru.
Start by whispering into her ear, “If you feel the need to bend over again in my line of vision, I’ll be sitting over there. I might even look.” When she turns to look at you, laser her with your eyes and assume an amused mastery smile.
Gamer
“Pussy is just pussy.”
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My favorite line, not necessarily that “Gamey” but assumes social proof, is “I don’t believe we’ve met.” Just take it from there.
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Start using the ink station and act like you have no idea what you’re doing. Ask her what the point of this is and tell her to teach you. Tell her you’re gonna draw her. Start drawing her with huge boobs and a huge ass bent over in front of a guy with a caption saying “oops I dropped something” you can draw the guy with wide open eyes and caption saying “nice” (you can make the drawing more innocent if you feel like it or draw her in some in a downward dog pose). Laugh together and talk about yoga.
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Also, with the Yoga, you’re forgetting the new age angle: Hey, I just want to say you’ve got really great energy.
You have to be a little hippy dippy, but it can work.
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Get your big boy voice on this one.
“Hey, grab us a seat over there”
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That is the best answer, Anteros. Show leadership and create the frame she is seeking.
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If you’ve interpreted her behaviors correctly so far and she’s interested in you, forget anything witty or try-hard — just go with normalsauce. Say hi, good morning, ask her if she comes here a lot, has she ever been to that place on 9th and Couch where they roast the beans for two days straight, etc.
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Sumi ink is that from squid or something? Only question in my world about most things. “Can you eat it?”
What is a yoga mat? Is it like, a mat?
I’d have shown my lack of class by asking her if she was going hiking, the only reason I could ever think of for toting a mat around (unless she had a turban and a beard).
I do know what Daisy Dukes are .. guess the red leg things are against ticks then?
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“I hear yoga is great for burning lots of calories…”
“nice to see women in this city taking care of themselves and not just riding on natural beauty…”
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Beret cocked to a rakish angle, desert boots, corduroy sports coat with elbow patches, black coffee, pecking my novel into an Alphasmart Neo.
Chick magnet.
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Turtleneck, forgot the turtleneck.
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Pocket square.
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“I like peanut butter. Wanna fuck?”
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Here’s how I’d play it. She’s given 2 IOI’s and is consciously or unconsciously wiggling her ass in front of me. She’s primed to open.
After the second IOI, I’d walk over and say:
“Nemaste…”
When she turned around in surprise I’d be holding my best alpha pose eye fucking and slowly and pointing to the mat say:
“cool mat…you’re either a yoga instructor…or still in kindergarten…which is it?”
When she started laughing, I’d hold my gaze, crack a smile and sit down…
False time constraint: “I’ve got to go but I cant resist knowing what’s in that big bag…”
After that the usual banter would ensue and I’d move it to comfort…perhaps talk of the spiritual side of yoga and how flexible she must be. (sexual spike) I’d find a way to touch her leg to test for firmness…
Then I’d move to comfort…more about the spiritual side, perhaps a DHV story about being in India or perhaps my own interest in arts and dance and how that provides the perfect escape for me…Introduce kino early…
I’d say it’s time to excuse myself…”Well, you don’t seem crazy so I think it would be a good idea we met up again to continue this…over something stronger…chai….” another laugh. I’d get her number and leave.
Then I’d text her 20 minutes later: “Nemaste yoga girl…let’s meet up for drinks this week…”
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It’s spelled “Namaste”.
I literally can’t even. Wow just wow. #yesallwomen
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“It’s pronounced ‘nAmaste'” …she would say…
“Right…They don’t teach you that in kindergarten…yoga instructor it is…” I would say.
When I get IOI’s the banter flows because the girl is usually all giggly to begin with.
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do the quick analysis…she’s non-verbally flirting AND she sat down with an open seat by her = her hindbrain is primed for sex…she just needs to get buy-in from her hamster…soooo you’re looking at a SDL/instadate situ…she flirted then sat down at the sumi ink station (i had to look this up…lol…the apparent goal is to create ‘public art’…but it is also a very social process = AI/IOI…) with an open seat right next to her…so, she wants you to approach her…
caveat – she’s got her back turned, so it’s a mild shit test = chase me…so, just hold your frame = you see something you want, you go for it…
make your choice – pua or work…don’t split your focus, it doesn’t work…so, work can wait…
she’s cute, not hot = no neg necessary…just flirty vibe and solid frame…
now you have to make a choice – reference the yoga…or not…i’d take the yoga route bc it sexualizes the interaction and has plausible deniability…
approach her (stroll up and take your time)…pause behind her by the seat (take your time…you can even watch her body language for her ‘anticipation’ response…lol)…pull out the seat and sit down slowly (like you own the place and she has been waiting for you…)…look her over again until after she ‘notices’ you (you already know she has seen you do this, so you need to keep this frame)…then study her face until you find three things you would change to make her hotter…your frame is that you are still trying to decide if you are going to let her into your life…if she says anything to open you, just ignore it and proceed with your open…
if yoga route , you have to avoid interview questions and any overt reference to the yoga itself (bc you’ll kill her sex buzz, that’s why…lol) = then tell her “you look…[pause, look her over again, smirk and laser eyes]…flexible…” if you did it right, she should blush…lol…[laser eyes and smirk] “so tell me…[pause]… what’s your favorite position…” then just hold for her answer…
you’ll have to riff off her answer, but that’s the opener i’d use…and throw in a small compliance test right away…’hand me that ink bottle/pen/napkin’…later, you can tell her to ‘pose for me’…then direct her to bend over (again) for you, while you draw a ‘kitty’ (emoji b-day cat)…lol…
if not referencing the yoga = you need to focus on the big ‘look at ME’ purse or the red ‘look at ME’ tights…but most of the things i can think up off the top of my head involve negs, so wouldn’t be optimal in this situ…
good luck!
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How about saying, “It’s always a good time for Christmas”…. (red tights and green Starbucks’ Logo)
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Basically what most guys will do in this scenario lol:
Next time you’re hesitating approaching off an AI, just remember how chode this seems not just to an outside observer but also to the girl who’s slowly deciding you’re more and more of a pussy the longer you take to approach her if you two are on eachother’s radar like in the OP’s scenario. Don’t be this dude…grow some balls and pro-actively pounce on warm AIs.
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I couldn’t get past 0:40, simply because I would have definitely gone over then.
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Reminds me of 40 years ago. Took me 10 min on a study date, but I eventually went over to ask a girl why she kept looking at me. We had met once before and she had made a big deal talking about her bf, so I figured that she was taken. Girls are never really taken.
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“so I figured that she was taken. Girls are never really taken.”
So true.
I got a number from a gal today. She would not give me her number a couple weeks ago at the Coffee House because she “had a boyfriend”. Well today I said hello, we talked and I typed her name into my phone then asked for her number. She said gosh you are persistent, took my phone and typed in her number. There was no game, which is the story of my life.
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edit to add – there was no game THAT I RECOGNIZED…
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Yep no game. The stars just magically re-aligned this time round. Please teach me this star aligning sorcery you possess. Oh wait that would involve me taking conscious steps = game. So just wave your magic wand my way instead master. Tanx!
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The only way this cat in the video’s game would work is if he was wearing a wedding ring hahahaha
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1. While you’re still waiting for your coffee, drop your bag in the seat next to her and say, “Hey, watch this for me for a sec.”
2. Change your mindset. Who care about whether the seat will be a good work station for you to use your computer? Who cares about what you open with? Remember abundance and just approach.
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“Hey, do you do Crossfit? You look like a Crossfit girl.”
Some of those crossfit chicks are kind of muscly so it’s not clear if that’s a compliment or not.
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“Red tights? Is that a monthly adaptation of British red coats? I think you should save the daisy dukes for next week.”
Anyway, I get the impression of beta bait, which is a test of emotional loftiness, scarcity, and value. My example is hyperbole, but hit that test immediately, while in line. Positively express disinterest and ‘amused mastery’. My read is that she desperately wants and will only accept a man with an iron will. Demonstrate without hesitation. By the time she sat down it was over. She probably requires advanced game. She’s a challenging play and she knows it.
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“sumi ink station”
Hipsterfag.
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Some good news?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-3018680/How-staggering-40-millennials-believe-homosexual-relationships-immoral.html
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Somebody page Pleasureman. Apparently not all millennials are pozzed.
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I bet that yoga mat’s just for show
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Overthink much? Jesus.
You’re not trying to create attraction or overcome resistance.
She is attracted, and not resisting.
She wants you to say hi. Say it.
“Hey. I’m Mike. What’s your name?”
Boom. Right there you have separated yourself from 99% of guys. You have demonstrated confidence, friendliness, sociability, and normality.
Ya think this girl would like to meet a confident, friendly, sociable, normal dude?
Yeah, you’re damn right she would.
Don’t compliment and for gods sake don’t make an overtly sexual comment right out of the gate. These are why guys wind up lonely creepers.
Don’t neg her right off the bat. Asshole.
Don’t hand her your phone and demand she put her number in with a big “shit eating grin”. Psycho.
Don’t awkwardly loiter around the ink station (whatever the fuck that is) acting like you can’t decide whether or not to sit down. Retard.
Damn, guys. Everything is not all game all the time.
A man who hits the gym, has his own place and a little disposable income, and is confident, friendly and interesting, is going to have all the girls he wants.
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This.
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there’s more thank one way to skin a pussycat. oink
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i noticed your prize winning ass. it got me thinking that i can bet you are really proud of it.
laughs…maybe some bla bla
ignore
so do you work out or its all natural
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I like the places that write the customers names on the cup and then call it out when it’s ready.
If I see any prospect(s) behind me in line or the if the chick serving is bangable, I like to create a fun vibe by giving a particularly crazy name, And then make her write it down properly, which always gets a giggle from her. Me: Oh and can you make sure you call my whole name out as last time I got the wrong coffee.
Then when its ready I never answer unless that call the whole name out.
“Double shot cappuccino for Horacio?”
Me: looking around for someone else to answer.
“Double shot cappuccino for Captain Horacio?”
Me: Looking at watch
“Captain Horacio Horn-blower your double shot cappuccino is ready?”
Me: Busy checking out the chick in the line. (The chick who took the order usually tells them it’s me and that they have to call the whole name out)
“Captain Horacio Horn-blower III. Your double shot cappuccino is ready?”
Me: (Hand up) Ah. Thanks.
Usually the chick in line, who’s now waiting for her coffee next to me, is giggling and very open to being opened by the guy who’s got all the whole staff giggling.
Me: Hi, I’m David.. you are…..?
Her: Hi, Joan.
Me: Wow, what an unusual name….
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GSOH
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Walk up to her. Look her straight in the eye. Then pick up her big bowling ball bag and walk out of the shop with a smile. When she chases you out, pull her in close and make out.
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