Readers sometimes ask, “CH, if you were imprisoned in a cage of domesticity, how would you deal with the cramping of your style? What would do when your old lady is a faint echo of her former pumpworthy glory?” I’ve always half-glibly said, “liquor and hookers”. Now a reader happily affirms the essential ingredients of the CH recipe for the good life. We’ll call it CAP:
Careerism, Alcoholism, Promiscuity.
drunicusrex writes,
Careerism plus functioning alcoholism plus promiscuity is perfectly fine in men, so long as they support their families well, and raise strong, intelligent children.
It’s also very possible as a married man to enjoy a few drinks, keep a mistress discreetly, and be a fine father.
Most every wife will peter out eventually, in either looks or libido (often both) and yet a strong, successful guy is supposed to give up sex after two or three kids pop out?
I think not.Careerism, alcoholism, and eat pray fuck are disastrous in women. That shit ends marriages PDQ, and certainly trashes any maternal or parental instincts. Fuck that. Women who act like men make truly ghastly moms. (And stay at home Dads getting in touch with their metro side are questionable to say the least.)
Traditional sex roles = happiness.
So now wifey is falling asleep in the couch. Earlier from outside the window I saw some college girls heading out for St Pat’s stroll past our yard, towards the bars and shops around the corner.
Our little resort/college town does, in fact, have nearly as many temptations as any big coastal city.
But I have things to do at work tomorrow ….
perhaps I’ll just go out for one or two….
Executive summary: You reverse the sexual polarities at your peril and great risk to your family.
A self-confident culture on the upswing features a lot of men following the CAP formula for happiness. A few drinks, a young pretty mistress, and a diligently pursued passion (which could be a career or a hobby) is the secret sauce that inspirits men and motivates them to continue providing for their dutiful wives and paternally assured kids.
But, a sickly, self-negating culture on the downswing reverses this formula. Men become women and women become men. All sorts of crap flows outward from that toxic strew.
Careerist men: Strong, attractive, admirable.
Careerist women: Unfeminine, bitchy, untrustworthy.
Imbibing men: Fun, charming, sociable.
Imbibing women: Slutty, crass, poor mothers.
Promiscuous men: Happy, contented, appreciative.
Promiscuous women: Deranged, restless, divorce risks.
You’ve been warned.
[…] Careerism, Alcoholism, Promiscuity: Good For Men, Bad For Women […]
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Mind-altering substances are for morons who can’t be entertained without becoming artificially retarded.
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For the highly intelligent, the opportunity to be like the other morons for an evening (ie stupid) is a holiday not to be denigrated.
Getting stupid now and again is a great way to relax.
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Also, people with depression, including soft bipolar and SAD, shouldn’t drink. It makes things worse and leads to nonfunctional alcoholism. Intelligence doesn’t even matter. If your brain is fundamentally geared towards depression, alcohol, as a mood enhancer and a depressant, will gradually make it worse whilst enhancing the symptoms over withdrawal, creating reliance.
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ROFLMAO!
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where can i post my text messages so they they become a post. i totally out alpha’d this. i went nuclear in this bitch!
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It’s interesting that the CH anti-feminist message gets so little troll and hater pushback — almost none, really — while the Château’s racial raids get the paid and amateur shills out in numbers.
Barring a drunk fattie menstruating her outrage here from time to time, there hasn’t been any regular feminist opposition here in years.
[CH: one major equalist plank shattered, one to go.]
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The only way you would have people agree with the race issue is you only had a certain white demographic. People aren’t going to go against their own self interest or what they perceive to be in their own interests.
Most emasculated men have a shared vested interest in promoting feminine beauty in looks and behavior but it’s just not true concerning race. You’re going to support what helps your side. The white SJW types support diversity because of intra tribal competition that conveniently makes their position stronger, at least in the short term.
““It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends on his not understanding it.” – Upton Sinclair
Just change the words around
“It is difficult to get a man to understand differences concerning race, when his tribe/his social status/employment/wealth depends on his not understanding it”.
Of course this only for useful idiots, the leaders at the top of these minorities know the score. They don’t believe their own BS, they use it as a weapon. Well at least I don’t think they are that dumb to actually believe. However, I used to think this about Obama, but now I’m beginning to believe that he actually is that naïve and dumb.
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FuriousFerret,
This post is top wisdom.
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I meant say non-emasculated men want to promote traditional female beauty.
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wake me up when you get to the part where you justify mistreating people on the basis of color
zzzzzzzzzzzz
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“wake me up when you get to the part where you justify mistreating people on the basis of color”
We’re mostly against affirmative action here.
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Brilliant, FF. You very rarely disappoint.
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You mean if our countries were over 90 percent White? Like they USED TO BE?
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Thwack, I always wonder why you never mention your fellow tribesmen’s regular war on each other? If it wasn’t for whites trying so hard to civilize your tribes, they’d exterminiate each other in a few years’ fighting over drug turf!
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Now listen, you PUAs and frat boys and red state dwellers too
Tell all your buddies to spread the news
The day of non-judgmentalism you soon will know
As Gaea in her wisdom looks up from below
Will her battle be lost by segregating the races?
We want below-replacement numbers of babies,
not ones with (gasp!) alpha faces
Never, never, never, I say
For racial huckstering is here to stay
Never, never, never, I say
‘Cos Rev’m Sharpton is here to stay
[…one major equalist plank shattered, one to go…]
I don’t think that’s what we’re witnessing…with the aims of feminism largely achieved already, the Feminazis have slim pickings to define themselves against these days.
But race? This is one hill the Left will defend to the death…don’t expect a retreat, no matter what kind of experience, history or evidence from the biological sciences you throw at them…
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That’s a solid point about feminism already having won their victories in the West… good call.
And, of course, that small patch of cooze keeps men a-hoppin’ to their whims in all areas social anyway.
Obviously, when it comes to race, you’re never going to convince a sow’s ear to become a silk purse, nor will the leopard change his spots… so in THOSE areas, it’s always going to be an us-vs-them scenario, with resources at stake during fat times, and life at stake during lean.
The West, in its largesse and inherent sense of fair-play, will always feel guilty, so long as there’s a meal on the table and channels on the tube… and one assimilated “good” one of The Other to be pointed to.
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As a PUA frat boy red state dweller, I find it easier to not give a shit about race by living in all white neighborhoods. Outta sight, outta mind!
Race hustling and baiting will never end. Its probably why I never turn my TV on except for sports
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[CH: one major equalist plank shattered, one to go.]
It kinda helps that one equalist plank relied on trying to make women hate alpha males.
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So… what’s the weak point of the other equalist plank?
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TNB, but it’s counteracted pretty well by teevee.
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‘The inherent failure in feminism is that it tries to have women hate alpha males.’
I’m paraphrasing you corvinus, but yours is pure gold – there is world of depth behind your single sentence. Including feminism’s inevitable degeneracy into hating beta males instead, because of the impossibility of the first goal.
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Including feminism’s inevitable degeneracy into hating beta males instead,
Women hate other women, so it’s only natural that they’d hate men who act like and remind them of women.
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Gammas of either political stripe KNOW they suck with women, need help, and can spot the socialization issues in dealing with split-tails.
With race (as clear cut as it is to an observant man) it causes a ton of angst and gnashing of Mountain Dew stained and rotted teeth.
It’s inconceivable that they consider they have been lied to about EVERYTHING, no? Their psychology rejects it.
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I’ll see your Mountain Dew stained and rotted teeth and raise you a NeHi grape drank and moon pie.
Funny how the stereotypes are okay when they go YOUR way, eh?
And note, folks, the somewhat subtle brainwash…. (giving silly tilly the benefit of the doubt that he’s not the usual overt shill)… he mentions “either political stripe” at first, with the perfunctory Cathedral jibe about not getting laid… but then comes the zinger which only zaps the ig’rint hillybilly image that, of course, all racists are.
And yet, many, if not most, of the alleged ray-ciss posters here often elaborate their concerns and the true problems of this society in re race in fairly lucid and educated terms.
If y’all fancy yerselfs true red-pillers, boys… at least make an effort to stray from the Cathedral on the matter of race occasionally, eh?
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Mtn. Dew was a reference to your typical neckbeardin’, video game playing, softhand having, twinkster with skinny pants.
The idea of being a shill (for ?) is interesting though. Nogs? Jews? That one gets tossed at me a lot but I have to consider those sources.
Where I live I see maybe three nogs a week, wouldn’t even recognize a Jooooo. I literally don’t care because I either make enough money or good decisions to not have to co=mingle with them.
Shrug.
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Mountain Dew and rotten teeth meaning basement-dwelling vid-playing neckbeards?
Naw, that’s Jolt Cola and Cheetohs dust… the rotten teeth barb is reserved for Appalachians and Englishmen.
Get your stereotypes straight, kids.
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A cool benefit of dating a chick that doesn’t drink much is that you get a built in DD so you save money on drinks, gas and DUIs. A girl willing to drive you around as you get drunk with friends also comes across as more caring and considerate. We need more chicks like this.
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That’s how the girlfriends of all my friends that are getting married are. Girls, if you want to marry, drive men around when drunk and get your parents to give you assets such as a house.
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lol. not a bad plan.
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Show up early to a date and pay the bartender to give you ginger ales or something all night whenever you order “scotch and soda.” By the end of the night, you’ll have a drunk chick ready to fuck and zero chance of a DUI–win-win.
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You are a embarrassment to humanity, boy…
Just because that’s how your mama got knocked up, don’t go projecting that effrontery onto the men of the chateau.
Win-win? More like dumb-dumber-loser.
Avaunt, impious fool.
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Agreed. I shouldnt be troll feeding, but thats a lose-lose. A stone cold sober conversation with skanky bar chicks sounds awful
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do not be fooled by false niceties.
girls who don’t drink much and volunteer to be your DD all the time are usually just trying to keep tabs on you. they are also prone to becoming excessively naggy and bitchy about your drinking later on down the road when your drinking doesn’t seem so cute anymore.
your best bet is a girl who isn’t a stick in the mud about drinking and doesn’t need to know every stop you make while you’re out having a good time with your buddies.
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Your best bet is a girl who can keep her figure and does more suxing and less talking…
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But which of those young co-eds is going to clean up his diarrhea trail or trim his ear hairs after couch-wife decides that being alone is preferable to contracting a disease? Does he really want his children to loathe him for the rest of his days? The good life is one that should prepare you for the good death.
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Most married men won’t cheat or booze because they won’t have the inclination, talent or temparament for it. But having the option and sanction to do so would go a long way for men to reinvest in society. The meta message is to make marriage a good deal for men.
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Someone will be along any moment to tell you that if a man has sin in his heart he is still guilty of sin, so you don’t need inclination, talent or temperament. You still get the shaming.
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You have misinterpreted Matthew 5:27-28. You cannot sin without intention, and intention is the beginning of sin, not the end. The warning was made so that we self-discipline our passions rather than indulge them, to better and more intentionally direct our actions.
But thanks for the advertisement against Protestantism, which is in its last days. “Every man his own scriptural exegete!” has led to many stupidities and the mind-rotting disease of relativism. Relativism is a malady we are not treating, a cancer that has spread everywhere, and the cause of our culture’s eventual death.
Relativism is at the heart of every woe catalogued here. We have lost the ability to defend ourselves. Worse, we see nothing worth defending. Everything and everyone is equal — equal, that is, to the least common denominator.
Matt
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When you look with lust upon another woman what is your intention? Oh wait, never mind. Forgot who posted the reply.
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It’s awfully difficult for those who don’t truly believe in Scripture to try and make their case quoting it…
The nuances and subtleties of the Lord’s messages are lost… as is the understanding in re His intended audience (the Elect versus the great multitude, for example)…
Alas, then others gleefully step in (up to an including Satan himself) with what appear to be literal interpretations of the Word… or should I say, misinterpretations… not to edify, but to mock the religion and its followers.
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Intention is a necessary but not sufficient component of sin. In dreams begin responsibilities, they aren’t complete there.
If you habitually indulge every demoniac impulse that flashes through your brain-pan, you eventually lose control between intention and action. You become slave to whatever instinct seizes you at any given moment, like a toddler shitting his pants where he sits.
This sub-subculture pedestalizes instinct indulgence because that’s what weak men do — they see greater men above them seemingly do “whatever they want” and attempt to imitate them. They don’t see the discipline required of highest volition, they only see their superior making a choice. So they think all they have to do is follow their low-class instincts to achieve alphadom. In truth, they are just fat girls with a new excuse to eat all the cake they want.
But I will heed Greg’s advice and stop here.
Matt
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couch wives decide they wanna be alone irrespective of what you do…cuz Oprah and yougogurrrrrrrrl said so
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What the hell makes you think a couch-borne lardass would be helpful in his declining years, when she does not respect and help him now?
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[…] By CH […]
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I assume finding a mistress involves a lot of solo bar game at places you don’t go with your wife? Unless you have friends that are down for the cause.
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places you don’t go with your wife…yes. bars…no.
bar whores do not make good mistresses. they are more trouble than they are worth.
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Interesting… where do you recommend then?
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Tennis clubs. These places are usually swarming with single or married horny women who like to exercise, stay fit, and party.
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Problem with tennis is that you can’t do tennis clubs if you suck tennis and some of our parents didn’t take the propitious decision to invest in our range of athletic endeavors. :p
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jeez man it doesn’t have to literally be tennis or GTFO…take that and go with it. OK, no tennis, go lift and do fuckin yoga at the Y with all the slender eat pray loves…go play racquetball and pick some hottie to play “my mate didn’t show..you play? I have an extra racquet..c’mon it’ll be fun”…and that shit is fun, don’t need to be real great to wax her with blistering serves. Do something with a female where you can display outright athletic dominance.
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Secretaries, co-op students, girls from your church’s youth group, and, most importantly, groupies – get good at something, anything, and there will be groupies. Arts, writing, sciences, sports, politics, you name it. And I’m not talking big leagues – even in your local township. They are all sources of mistresses.
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Craigslist is the player’s friend. I’ve had a LONG series of mistresses off CL. In a large metropolitan area there are many, many women looking for a sexy guy.
I find writing one’s own ad is the path to success. When you write it, remember basic marketing – sell benefits, not features. Make it about HER needs and how you’re the man to fufil them.
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Seriously I thought CL was full of spammers.
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Honest question here, are they attractive and not crazy? Id be apprehensive of it
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Respondents include the crazy, the ugly, and the hot. Your job is to write the ad that will attract the type of women you want. Yes, you’ll get spam but that’s easy to blow off. The dogs can be dismissed early on.
Read the other guys’ ads first – then don’t write like that. Most guys want cheap and easy sex and expect the females to come running. Don’t think that works. Appeal to hypergamy and loneliness. Offer a “dress up martini date” at a swank lounge or quote some sappy poem that women love.
I’ve met and bedded some very fine, very eager women over the years. The two things they had in common were a lonely heart and a hot pussy.
I grant I’m not fishing for 21 y/o hotties. There are other ways to find those. But from 30 to 45 there are many good ones, at least for catch-and-release purposes.
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Yes, that pretty much sums it up.
Careerism? Check.
Alcoholism? Check.
Promiscuity? Check.
Life is good.
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Scary to see that it’s really that simple. Replace good smoke for alcohol and I think it’s still true. Especially if breeding and growing said smoke is a hobby.
Now we just need more posts about how to keep the mistress from contacting the wife and vice versa. Women talk too much.
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Comm security, name security, your friends are not your friends and travel…
And do not get feelings…
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Comm: second phone is a hassle so either text from primary phone (which compromises identity security) or email. I would choose email. Excuse why I can’t be contacted by phone? I don’t have a phone. Not because I’m poor, but because I refuse to be electronically tethered. Not sure that will fly. Might have to use second phone. PITA for even the most careful. and the mistress is supposed to relieve stress, not cause it.
Name: Fake name is easy. She can’t meet your family because they’re all far away. She can’t meet your friends because they’re always busy with their kids/wife. She can’t find you on social media because you’re not online (or make fake pages with your fake name). Lots of red flags but as long as you use the hamster to your advantage she’ll overlook them. Maybe for a while. How do you keep her from wanting to get closer? F buddies only maybe. If she’s up for that (and also a HB8+) she’s probably a CAP or borderline. Dead bunny scenario?
Outside social circle: Not too hard unless you’re in a small town.
Travel: This might be the key. Out of town mistress. But unless you travel there often you won’t be hitting it much. Kind of defeats the purpose.
CH might be right. Hookers. But that’s not hunting. And it seems like the mistress thing blows up in the faces of even the most powerful and wealthy men. Wives turn their heads until they don’t. Kings of old only had exclusive harems because the women were locked up.
Solution: Don’t get married. There are negatives to that too though.
Timing and luck maybe. Either way, I’ll never stop hunting.
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Last week my female neighbor just caught me with another chick [not my gf] pulling out of my garage. I sort of prepared for this by undermining said neighbor with gf (the neighbor is a little nuts), but I think my defense if it comes up will be to deny, deny, deny. The gf already suspects something’s up, but probably wouldn’t be upset enough to end it. We shall see.
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plant the seed of doubt…strike up convo with gf later in the day “that crazy lady next door and I got into it this morning, she kept on [blah blah make something up] and we had words, I don’t know what her deal is”….
then later if neighbor stirs shit…refer to this “she’s just starting shit because we got into it”
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sounds like a zany sitcom
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Frame Control – https://heartiste.wordpress.com/2015/04/06/alpha-male-of-the-month-das-booty/
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Women have sex on offer to bargain against their need for commitment; men have commitment on offer to bargain against their need for sex.
Because some men also talk too much, in this case me, my wife knows about my mistress, even meets her out shopping occasionally. However, she doesn’t contact her because she does not want to lose my commitment.
My mistress is an ingénue and much younger than my wife – her life is impregnated with meaning principally through love, sex and relationships – she knows at a glance that my wife is jealous of her, which gives her tremendous sexual pride. That is part of her short-term reward. Her long-term reward is knowing I can commit to her too if it becomes necessary.
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good points about short and long term rewards.
the best way to prevent them from acting up and causing problems is by making them feel special in some way. it’s been mentioned before but a girl is much more willing to share you with other women and not wreak havoc on your life if she thinks she has something the other girls don’t. something that makes her special or better than the other woman.
let her know you appreciate how much fun she is and hint at how you don’t get much fun when she’s not around. don’t badmouth the ball and chain or anything. just a roll of the eyes or a smirk or whatever gets the message across is all you need.
tell her something private and intimate about yourself and tell her you’ve never told anyone else. girls love that kind of thing.
i know some guys will say gifts are a no no with mistresses but getting her a little something every once in awhile will buy you months of peace and harmony. it’s great return on your investment because, trust me, if she knows you’re providing financially for another woman and/or taking her out and going on trips (stuff you won’t do with her because it’s too risky) she’s going to be jealous and take it as proof you don’t value her.
girls understand that men show investment and love by providing for the people they care about so when you don’t give a girl anything…ever but you do give things to another woman (gifts, housing, etc.) she is going to get jealous and hurt. and she will feel slighted. a mistress feeling any of those things is not fun to deal with. trust me.
a few years ago i was seeing someone on the side and learned some of this stuff the hard way. after awhile i started to see the trigger warnings though.
if i was going out of town with the wife, i’d make sure and send at least one or two quick texts midway through the trip telling her i was anxious to see her when i got home. that would keep her hamster from spinning out of control with thoughts of how much fun i was having with the wife.
when i didn’t do that. she’d be freaking out, texting me, going out drinking with friends. all kinds of stupid shit. but when i gave her a little reminder that i was still around and thinking about her, she was happy as a clam. it was also somewhat self protective on my part. she was a hot little ticket with plenty of guys around willing to snap her up.
i also started bringing something home for her once in awhile from when i was travelling. nice stuff sometimes but usually just junk. a little bottle of booze, or some mints from the plane. one time i even brought her the tablet and pen from the hotel. a bunch of crap but it didn’t cost me anything and she loved it. she just liked that i was thinking of her while i was gone.
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If you have to sneak around, you’re not alpha. Alphas either have so much money/status (side note: how is status separable from money?; I can’t conceive a situation in which they don’t coincide) that nothing they do can be wrong, because being wrong implies being within reach of punishment, or they are totally indifferent to the punishment, rendering it impotent, c.f. German philanderer who made his wife apologize to his mistress.
Getting married in the first place is beta to the maxx. The best that can be said about a married man is that he took one for the team, i.e. society, but you have to ask yourself to what extent such a thing even exists anymore. The reason for marriage was that people were going to be fucking anyway and there were no contraceptives, not to mention paternity tests, so unless your society was going to be full-on, “It take a village,” you needed a way to make sure the mother and father were responsible for their hellspawn and of establishing a line of succession. That was a long time ago.
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http://giphy.com/gifs/laughing-drunk-mad-men-hqOl7UJOVZJUk
Been trying to tell you guys this… but will you listen?
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A CAP life allows for great interactions like these between Mad Men.
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I once saw a thick book, I believe it was titled What Men Know About Women. I opened it and every single page was blank.
Lies. All of it.
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Not disagreeing here, especially if a wife starts packing on pounds or loses libido, but I pose a question…
What if a wife really tries her best to maintain an attractive personality and body/face, and continues to be all too happy to give her husband what he wants in the bedroom? Through no fault of her own (biomechanics are a bitch) she is going to decrease in attractiveness as age comes creeping in, and even the most doting, pretty 50yo wife can’t compete in attractiveness with a lithe 25yo that doesn’t have a care in the world. In this scenario is it the “right” or “moral” thing for a husband to not act upon the urge for some younger generation strange? Is there a line to be drawn here?
I struggle with this one and would like other opinions, but please none from the “well maybe that guy should have never married in the first place” trolls. For some men the paternal desire to have a wife and kids is quite strong, but that doesn’t mean the urge for new tail ever completely dissipates. The two are not binary for a lot of men.
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Is it “right” or “wrong” to cheat on someone you’ve made a commitment to, who is faithful to you, and who does everything she can to please you? If you think this is a difficult question, you are very morally challenged.
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biomechanisc are amoral, dad.
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“biomechanisc are amoral”
A little knowledge is a dangerous thing. It makes people extrapolate nine parts nonsense from one part insight.
Biomechanics (aka evolpsych) has built morality into the human psyche because we’re social animals. Unless you are the rare clinical sociopath, your wiring will fuck with you if you violate certain moral laws.
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@PA
No, herd preservation is socialized. Your on a site that is dedicated to desocializing betas away from these harmful (to men) tropes.
We no longer need each other to build society, its done. Revert to your nature and the natural order and you will profit handsomely. Push your socialized boundaries. Watch what happens…..(hint: you get a shit ton of respect)
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As above: one provides actual commitment to the 50 year-old wife, and sex, romance and the possibility of commitment to the 25 year-old mistress.
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Does your fifty year old wife not desire sex and romance from you anymore?
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JFS: Hard to say how much. I was very beta until I realized I had to learn some game to pull the mistress, so by that time, things had become pretty bad vis wife and I. There’s still a corner of her that desires sex and romance, but she’s a tough woman. Don’t forget the business side of marriage discussed by others in this thread – that can hold a marriage together too.
BTW, the ages were provided by Jason 773, not me – you can add a few years in my situation.
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If you (have to) ask the answer is no.
As for what is right and what is wrong, i would say that is binary but it depends on the context and situation and those are ever changing.
There is no line to be drawn with rules or words or commandments or laws. Which is the reason for a trial by jury. In colonial America adultery was a serious crime but a person had to be convicted of it.
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The only real answer to your question is that it’s either right or wrong, whichever you want it to be. It’s not like morality exists outside your head.
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correct. good post.
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Woman like that would be straight up devastated. To the core. Can you dance around that? It’s hard not to have very strong feelings for a woman who fulfills you in so many ways..you better be slick to shuck and jive your way out of the possible situation where she finds out. It’ll be a fuckin biblical typhoon of emotion I’m sure
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She’ll only be devastated if she feels she’s settling for you in the first place.
Not if she perceives you to be high status.
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This is why I advocate a big age difference, at least 15 years. Yes, the moral thing in this case is to stay faithful. If you still want some strange, be discrete and respectful of your wife. Don’t insult her or humiliate her in any way and that includes her finding out. Sex her as well or better than before. She has been good to you and that demands similar treatment and respect in return.
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“Don’t insult her or humiliate her in any way and that includes her finding out. Sex her as well or better than before. She has been good to you and that demands similar treatment and respect in return.”
bingo
most women will tolerate a lot as long as you don’t embarrass or insult them. pride is a big thing with women.
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It’s funny to hear you, and not just you alone, advocate respect for the wife along with tips on how to most effectively cheat on her.
Respect does not mean what you think it means.
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Unless you married her when you were 5, you are an older man. Over the years, with her devoted service, you should have developed intense feelings towards such a woman and know that, unlike most, she is actually special. There are few women who have the capability to deliver on their vows. Now you must deliver on yours.
I think that men believe in justice in a way women do not. You know justice demands your respect for her, she earned it.
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It’s a cage indeed, so you have to decide if you want to break out or not and risk breaking everything surrounding your relationship.
I wrote this over at Rollo’s:
Attention married women with children:
You are never a “mommy” to your husband. You are a MILF. It’s as simple as that. As long as your husband isn’t a beta, if you are having marriage problems, most likely you’ve forgotten how to act like a MILF to your husband (or you were a bad choice to begin with).
Case in point: Some time back as I was at the door on the way out to work, the wife gave me one of those one-armed throw-away hugs. I whispered, “Rub my balls real quick before I leave.” She replied, “Why?!” with a confused, annoyed, “how-is-that-relevant” look on her face. Totally clueless “mommy” perspective. She’s lost most of all of her desire to be considered a MILF. Just yesterday she said something on the phone that allowed me to throw in a phone sex reference/request. She replied, “You’re silly.” Silly! Like I was a freakin seven-year-old kid or something.
She’ll be SHOCKED and ready to lay blame when I forget how to be faithful though.
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THIS IS ALL YOU’RE FAULT YOU DON’T GIVE HER TINGLES MANOSPHERIAN PROFITS HAVE TOLD ME A WOMANS VAGINA IS A GUIDE TO ALL THINGS TRUE SO IF HER VAGINA FAILS TO TINGLE THAN YOUR FAILING AS A MAN!!!!1!!!
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I know all about the Sex God Method, but if a woman reaches the age where kids and the wall have stolen her mojo, ain’t much you can do. Told her her P#ssy’s gonna dry up if she doesn’t use it more with me. But if she didn’t have to have a p#ssy, she’s trade that Bitch in I’m sure. Some women “mature” beyond it all.
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“She’ll be SHOCKED and ready to lay blame when I forget how to be faithful though.”
Why not use some game first?
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Think of a game hunter hunting dead prey.
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Greg, Matt King, Arb, PA, et. al.,
I have a situ.
Quick backstory: Been dating this girl for two years, 11 years my junior. She lost her virginity to me. Most guys will rate her a 7. She’s sexually adventurous, bi-curious, but repulsed at the thought of scat play. Perhaps my scat game is too weak.
Paging YaShitty.
Anyway, she has a small group of friends and a small family. She’s finishing grad school, entering her last semester in a couple weeks (she’ll be working with autistic kids all day, eventually). I told her from the beginning I won’t be living in Miami for more than two years. The time for me to exit has arrived.
When I reminded her a month ago the tears rained down upon my haid and I subsequently assured her I’d stay down one more year while she completed her year long post grad state requirement for licensure.
Big mistake.
My desire to get out of this city is stronger than my desire to perform her endurance test so told her last night I changed my mind. While I don’t like seeing her cry, her tears couldn’t sway me a second time. I regret the situation particularly for going back on my word.
Thoughts?
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If she’s sweet and wants kids, you are garbage and have provided the enemy with evidence that men are the problem.
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This. You’re breaking the poor girl’s heart. Kn0ck her up a few times so that at least she’ll get some k!ds out of you.
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Thank you so much.
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LOL. If the Château isn’t a lively assembly of talent, then nothing is.
On a non-parody note, I dated a chick who worked with autistic kids. She had bitemarks on her hands and forearms. She told me that some autistic kids bite without a warning.
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I briefly dated a Google masseuse. The constant spectacle of pale, flabby Google execs made her gag.
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hard to bite when all yo teef been knocked the fuk out
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I’ve seen bite marks, too.
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Shouldn’t have caved the first time. Not sure what you want to hear, if you care more about your happiness and her tear manipulation didn’t work, pack your bags and leave? Tell her that she’s being unreasonable and that she can give up her licensure thing if she wants a chance at continuing this, but you won’t advise her to do that.
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Thank you so much.
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thoughts? Um…and? You wanna leave, leave…
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Thank you for the advice, you’re too kind.
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If a woman isn’t prepared to pick up stakes and follow her man anywhere he has to be, she isn’t a woman and you haven’t been enough of a man. Especially when it comes to these overeducated types who never make a decision in their lives, so they just keep returning to the comforting teat of grad school.
She will make an effort to follow, or you will leave behind problems. Win-win.
Making commitments in response to the water works is as stupid as can be. She needs you to think on her behalf, without the emotional dross women bring to every big decision. Worst case, she will secretly resent you for being a pussy if you relent to her Decision by Dramatic Outburst method. She already has a pussy. Tears dry. Lots of girls elsewhere.
Matt
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Mr. King,
Much appreciated, and you are right as per usual.
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“Working with autistic kids” is code for “I need to feel good about myself, like a good person”.
That young paduan, is an indicator that her personality is likely similar to a small metal cylinder that you will never fill with enough time, money, or attention.
Bio-mechanics are amoral, and she doesn’t really care, but is attempting to avoid bad feels. It’s not you as a person she loves, never has been. It’s how she feels about you.
Make her hate you and be kind. Either act like a whiny oversensitive bitch until she loses attraction, or call her an ugly loser and cut contact.
Ultimately she matters not one bit more than a stranger unless you knock her up. Bio-mechanics IS god.
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Well, if it isn’t fat stinkin’ Tilikum … Tilly goat, tilly boy. Come get one in the yarbles, if’n ya got any!
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Do you even understand what I wrote?
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Tilly doesn’t realize when he’s been had… nor perhaps a good Kubrick reference when he hears one.
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Are you drunk this early already again?
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What, are you counting?
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I salute your Beyond The Valley Of The D(r)olls parody of the Calling Ya-Riiiight field report.
This just might be the meatiest jest ever to grace the chateau.
Congratulations upon hitting the one time when the I’m-just-jealous barb has sharp veracity to it. I’m so green with envy I performed photosynthesis for lunch.
Well-played, sir… well-played, indeed.
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*taking a bow*
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I think you should have stuck with your word and not caved in. Giving her that false hope is probably the biggest issue here. A clean break is always the best. If she’s a good girl, let her down easy. Just dont pretend to pick her back up
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BigAl,
Kind sir, your ignorance is only surpassed by your wisdom.
Thank you so much.
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Well i dont drink at least. Can I get married?
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First you have to compose some Shakespearean verse:
“Spare not thy rod in the temple of my love,
thy reticence in proffer does not your cause behove,
indulge thine heart not in virtuous feasance,
lest my temple host itinerants in thine absence.”
[CH: shakespeare you naughty boy.]
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I’ve actually noticed that Hindus are far more stuck-up about not drinking than Muslims.
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Explains much.
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Proverbs 31:6, my little shill.
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Judging by your recent comments, you have learned nothing and made no progress at all since the last time you appeared. And not only that, you mock those who have invested considerable time in the fruitless task of advising you on how to be a better person. So, offhand, I’d say the answer to that question is no. Stop looking for compliments you don’t deserve, and start looking for how you can deserve compliments.
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Not your ordinary, off-the-cuff shiv … This is one of those damascus steel shivs that are repeatedly fired and forged over and over. You take this one out on special occasions – like a ceremonial sacrifice.
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Now that’s one to grow on.
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You mad, brah?
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Ooh, look who learned how to use game catchphrases! Perhaps you should have also learned that remarks like that are best left to men. That careers like yours are best left to men. That attitudes and actions like yours are best left to men. Instead of choosing to be a better woman, you’ve chosen to be a cheap imitation of a man. And that is why no one wants to marry you.
Good luck, little spoon.
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@ ls. sure, why not? you could go get married tomorrow if you really wanted to
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I was at my favorite lunch spot just now. I know the wait staff very well, but I always flirt with them as practice.
I left my credit card on the counter while waiting for my waitress to come ring me up. She comes over and grabs my card without saying anything. “Hey, you just help yourself to that,” I said with a straight face as she started printing my receipt.
I put a mint in my mouth, crinkled up the wrapper and flicked it at her. It made contact right between her eyes, and she said, “Wow, dude, that was rude!” then she laughed. “What was that?” “I don’t know, wasn’t me,” I said.
I found this all very funny, but her initial response threw me off. Did I actually irritate her?”
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yes, you irritated her clit
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Right. I think I’ll start carrying mint wrappers around in my pocket to use as openers.
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Neil Strauss used to carry a ball of lint, so why not foil?
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And I was so proud of my originality. Next I’ll start using in places where it’ll be more of a non sequitur.
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Good. now do that somewhere else where you don’t know anybody.
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I’m imagining how a girl sitting on a park bench minding her business would react to this. The thought puts a smile on my face.
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Watched a PBS travelogue on French chateaus. Featured this meme :
Les Trois Graces, representing the de Nesle sisters: Mme de Chateauroux, de Vintimille, and de Mailly, successive mistresses of Louis XV, 1765 by Jean-Baptiste van Loo
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The mademoiselles were looking, um, prosperous. And to think that ice cream sundaes hadn’t been invented yet…
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@ Sentient “…I take her comment not as snark, or a neg, but the kind of little truth that spills out from time to time. …..
Fowler – how long have you been with this girl?”
“It sounds to me like the classic blue pill story arc,…”
She certainly wasn’t trying to be bitchy- it was something she blurted that she felt (it’s a good neg to use in a relationship though). We’ve been together for nearly 2 years – part of that is long distance as she is finishing up medical school and I’m a 3 hour drive away for residency. We both lost our virginity late- me at 25 (after I discovered the chateau), her at 24 with me. Not a knockout in looks but her personality and sexual history is a profound rarity among women these days.
@blart “i think we seriously need more posts on relationship game here at the chateau.”
I do too. I’ve been going with the beta-beta-alpha guideline by CH that works for me well enough also- I can’t be aloof all the time.
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More posts on relationship game? One only need to follow the Commandments…
https://heartiste.wordpress.com/the-sixteen-commandments-of-poon/
If you really break it down, it encapsulates everything…
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How do you rationalize missing out until then? I struggle despite losing my virginity around my high school graduation. All those girls I’ve fucked up with because of disinterest or stupidity… Lol
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there’s no rationalization. It’s simply put- a lack of game.
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Sentient, sure, but that’s not what I meant. I’m sure Fowler missed out on some experiences he’d like to have. While I do get that the amazing logistics that high school offers won’t come back, I will pine for those years so I’m wondering how can one recreate that into adult life. I mean, I think of tutoring, learning photography and dance. If dance events, taking pro pics for starting models and tutoring high school seniors isn’t going to cut it as I get older(I can still meet early 20s through friends, luckily), I’ll hate my life. And just going forward is a rationalization I can see through. :p
walawala, when you say that you dj, do you mix or do you mostly make playlist kind of djing?
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Not sure exactly what you are asking ? If you are trying to create an abundance environment become an adjunct professor at a local college, bartend or invest in a coffee shop next to a yoga studio surrounded by apartments .
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@PWN I make a playlist. The music is quite unusual so it takes both skill and insight into knowing the music but also a good collection to work with.
From a game perspective, it’s a great way to DHV.
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heartiste do u have any advice how to turn on a man with madonna/whore complex? my husband sometimes cheats on me and he only likes two extreme kinds of women, hypersexualized “bad” girls with dirty talk, skintight leather, etc. and “good” girls with blushing sweet innocent smiles, white and pink lace, etc. Since I am wife and mother of his children I can only be a good girl and being overtly sexual is a turn-off to him, he hates if I initiate sex or do dirty talk, but he likes other girls to do that? I don’t know what to do I don’t want sex to become stale or bored but want to tread carefully and avoid doing things that would turn him off because he wants me to be all saintly? I know he loves me and is passionate when we have sex but I don’t know what to do! I don’t want to act “bad” and make him lose love for me, and I don’t want him to get bored of me and leave! I try to work hard on keeping my body in shape, do my hair, and all of that. please advise, I have been reading your blog forever! thanks! 🙂
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Ahh the female version of being the beta bucks.
Nothing you can do. Just as a good amount of girls choose husbands for their earning potential alone. He wants you take care of the house and kids and be submissive. It is what it is. Out of your hands. Anyways you probably knew the score about the situation when you entered it even if you were denying it to yourself.
I’m not trying to fuk over another guy but objectively the only way you’ll get wild sex is to cheat yourself.
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well ive had some luck with learning more subtle kinds of seduction, like flirty downturned eye contact, innocent yet michevious smiles, he likes my breasts and my body, I try to look as attractive as possible and I try to be passionate while still being “sweet,” I try to show him (not tell) about how much I love for us to be together… I wonder if theres anything else I can do? is it normal for men to have madonna/whore complex and where does it come from? any of you relate? its like he finds female sexuality a slutty dirty thing
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It’s simple, we like to degrade sluts and whores, but we’re somewhat loath to do those things to the women we love and respect.
I wish I could explain why this is so, but it’s simply built in. I won’t understand why fame makes the pussy tingle – it just happens. The Madonna-whore complex is just the opposite of the female fantasy of being quasi-enslaved by someone who is somehow gentle and loving at times. You can sort of see how these male and female impulses, albeit contradictory within the confines of the desires of each individual, are pair wise complementary for the two sexes as a whole.
There are some situations when we will feel like treating a girl like a slut in bed and feel sweet towards them out of bed, but this is rarer. Sort of like a girl finding a sweet dominant guy. Lol
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when i would try to say sexy things to him he would just hate it, he would say “what are you, a whore? please stop.” can any of you advise? do you know what I mean when I describe the subtle seduction style I am trying to learn and have any other ideas for me? movie characters? learning resources? personal experiences or anything like that to give me something to go on? I feel like there are some things I can do to try to lure him to pounce on me, but I cannot take any sort of sexual initiative at all or it just ruins the whole experience for him.
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I think he is just an extreme case of this split. There are women who get off on their own defilement and there are women who just like confident guys and everything in between. Now, when it comes to men, there’s a fluid definition in what we consider whorish behavior and while I don’t find girls wanting it rough or talking dirty to be whorish, there are men who do. You can’t change how he feels about these things because most people are too bigoted/emotional about such personal issues.
This being said, you could maybe get him to be more comfortable by role-playing with him. I don’t know how comfortable he is with himself or how good you are at acting(it does require some talent), but maybe you could have role-playing as an exploration area within your main relationship where you two respect each other. I don’t know enough about him, but he seems like the kind of guy who won’t appreciate you taking the initiative, no matter what stuff you learn from movies. What you can do is see how you can make him comfortable with exploring your sexuality and pouncing on you/whatever.
Are his parents religious/traditional? I ask because it seems to me that his natural Madonna – whore dichotomy got amplified to the point it interferes with regular sexual things. Regardless, I don’t think you can change him, but you can manipulate the environment to see what triggers this quirk of his and avoid it. Basically, you should know if he’s not opaque towards you what makes him uneasy about this. I pity you if he regards any sexual desire on your part or the like as whorish though because, pun intended, then you’re fucked.
I think the only way you can
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While I think it’s ironic girls crave their own enslavement, amusing that we, men, have these quirks when it comes to sex too. This Madonna-whore schizophrenia sometimes happened to me with the same girl in the sense that my desire of her made me want to both ravish her to the point of hurting her(somewhat/good kind of sex hurt, I guess), while in the same time I felt protective of her. Maybe if academics weren’t using their minds to explain away all these feelings, we would have more understanding now. I don’t know why men feel this or the Madonna – whore thing, in general, or why girls get off on being silly playthings and not being taken seriously. We’re just evolving animals and all these sexual selection quirks and sexual polarities/turnons we have are inherited from eons ago and expressed in a totally different environment to the one the mechanisms evolved in.
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Don’t dwell too much, he respects you pretty good is what I’m thinking.
If your only worry is you’re not turning him on..sure it’s a non issue if it’s passionate and all that. He’s prob averse to imaging his wife as his sex slave cum slut lol
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normal? all men feel like this or just my husband?? it feels so bad to read or hear about him being so desirous with other women acting horny and slutty, and being unable to stimulate that level of desire in him, even repulsing him, if I do the same thing 😦 makes me feel like there’s something wrong with me
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“it feels so bad to read or hear about him being so desirous with other women acting horny and slutty, and being unable to stimulate that level of desire in him”
Honey, I am a reformed beta, and refer to this as ‘the fundamental tragedy of human sexuality.’ One could summarize it as ‘sex and love are not the same, no matter how we wish they were.’ It is very difficult for sentimental people, ie most white women and beta males, to accept. I was 35 years past virginity before I did.
The sooner you can accept that this is human nature, the sooner you can find a solution that works for you. On that score, I would add that few women actually manage to combine whore and madonna in one person. They are very high SMV, very sensual beings, the women who manage the holy grail of female sexuality: inspiring an alpha to commit. You wouldn’t wonder how it’s done if you were one of them, you’d just know. Don’t fake.
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Interesting to think about. Boils down to ‘it’s impossible to have it all but some people get close.’
When I was young, my best sex was with wild hippy-type chicks that I did not consider LTR material, even when they were objectively hotter than my LTR’s of the time. I was horribly beta and into slut-judging, so didn’t stick with the wild girls longer than a few bangs.
Eventually married – my wife is pretty madonna-like by the standards of the modern West.
A very few women, high SMV and highly sexual beings, but with a track record of reasonable LTR commitment, do manage to pull off something of the madonna-whore combination that is the model feminism implicitly prescribes for every woman who feels the need to marry. Ironically, they are the last women who would meaningfully identify with feminism, a phenomenon that boils down to ‘hey you pretty girls who get pleasure from being sex objects, listen to us ugly women and don’t let men treat you that way.’
If you were one of these rare women who can pull it off, you’d know it. I say: don’t try to fake it – dangerous.
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“A very few women, high SMV and highly sexual beings, but with a track record of reasonable LTR commitment, do manage to pull off something of the madonna-whore combination”
women like this are rare indeed. but when you find one…oh boy.
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gosh, thank god, a softball question.
Here’s the answer- start fucking other men. Scientific fact, he will smell the semen on you and get aroused. Men are biologically wired to want to fuck women who have been fucked, so the little sperms can compete. He won’t know why he’s interested. Men can’t smell sex the way women can, our sense of smell is inferior.
the threat of competition to his sperm will prod him to action.
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Be a good girl. There’s not enough of those in this world. Compartmentalize his affairs and know that they can’t give him what you can give him.
Men seek sluts when fidelity and purity is unavailable because the transaction is simple and they don’t have to work so hard. But they are a habit little better than boozing and masturbation: they eventually degrade the person who indulges and wreck his constitution.
You’re a glass of ice-cold spring water wondering how to be mud.
Matt
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solid advice I have to admit (reluctantly)
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Awfully white of you.
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Sorry to say this, but you married a fuckin emotional, pathetic imbecile. Ignore him completely. Divorce rape him.
Yes I do believe some men deserve divorce rape.
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I wish I owned the tissue concession on this site with the amount of crybabies around lately. Yesterday, it was Doctor Fowler bemoaning his stale marriage – now here’s Anonymous Madonna crying on everyones shoulders about her husbands fantasy of purity.
Look – The courts of the world are choked with discarded marriages. If your lucky enough to have a viable one – then count your stars. Sexual frustration was never part of the bargain. So, either start f#ck’n your partners lights out – or let’s abandon the whole institution to the homos. Either way – stop complaining.
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Set. Game . Match. This isn’t simply the post of the year, it may in fact be THE post. All I could advance would be the thought that your larger observations of social health and vigor fit the individual even more. Beyond this most excellent prescription for a very happy Life what more can be said?
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The math on CAP doesn’t add up. An influx of only women from conquered lands, etc, is not possibly sustainable. Pussy follows the law of conservation like anything else. Hot mistresses are to double as another man’s wife? Obviously not viable math. Civilized patriarchy requires the you-tap-it-you-own-it-for-life rule. In decline, fuck sheeple men, but not when I (or civilized men) make the rules.
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You somehow think all men need and will have mistresses. And there’s a reason why civilized men making the rules is stupid. It’s how we got here: omg, it’s uncivilized to keep so many pplz disenfranchised so we must let foreigners, the stupid and women to vote. Lol
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“A few drinks, a young pretty mistress, and a diligently pursued passion (which could be a career or a hobby) is the secret sauce that inspirits men and motivates them to continue providing for their dutiful wives and paternally assured kids.”
this used to be well understood that this was the way men were meant to be. it is in our nature.
when people who start spouting off about adultery being a sin and that a man should feel guilt over cheating, it baffles me. for one thing, most of the people in the bible weren’t even married and they were fornicating all over the place. marriage is a man made institution.
as far as adultery goes, when marriages did start coming into play and became the norm, it was mostly about economics and security. people were in arranged marriages because it benefited their families and gave them financial security. it was hardly ever an ever-so-holy sacred bond between two people who were in love.
even most of the guys in the bible had mistresses and concubines or they just practiced polygamy. they took care of their first wives out of duty and obligation but they looked for love and passion with other women.
people knew then that marriage was basically for raising children and making strong family and community ties. you were obligated to take care of your wife for giving you kids and to keep the peace in your community but no one expected her to be your only source of joy and pleasure.
heck, most people (women and men) didn’t even expect joy and pleasure from the people they married at all. they were just business contracts with the sole purpose of raising children. nothing holy or spiritual about that if you ask me. the human soul needs passion and love as much as it needs oxygen. living in a passionless, loveless marriage kills your spirit. it turns you into a bitter shell of a man, a terrible husband, and a horrible father.
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Marriage is a merger of Estates. I wish people would get that, especially men. Women seem to get it, intuitively. What’s ironic is that even all the prejudices regarding familial origins are grounded in reason because of regression to the mean.
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all true.
why is most, if not all, romantic poetry and passionate literature written about mistresses, not wives? because…
duty for wives, love for mistresses
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What do you do when the GF traces your license plate number and contacts your Couch Wife? That scenario is playing out in the house across the street, and it’s ugly. I never realized that in any state you can pay around $30 to find out the name and address of a car owner. No amount of throw away email addresses and “burner” phones can prevent that. If you live in certain cities, I guess you can walk to your trysts, but most Americans live in the suburbs and small towns.
[CH: no doubt the Surveillance State is making it harder for men to fulfill their prime directive.]
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Lease. She will get a leasing company when she will trace the car. And the way you deal with these broads is having dirt on them too(I doubt her dad wants to see her with jizz on her face, e.g), lying to your wife or having the sack to come clean and tell your wife this is her new reality.
And stop with the omg, I can’t do my philandering safely. Everything in this life has risk and one difference between women and us is that we don’t need others to make stuff safer for us. Contrary to ch, the state makes it far easier for us to follow our prime directive considering it’s illegal for someone to crack my skull because I’m fucking his wife or daughter.
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Right, the prime directive of a molecule, DNA, that ha no knowledge that’s this futile process is even occurring. But you go, keep fulfilling your prime directive, and then the next generation can do it all over again, accomplishing nothing just like everyone else
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CH, what is your obsession with this “prime directive” – do you like being a slave to a molecule that doesn’t even know you exist?
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whats your obsession with romanticizing the fact that you and everyone else are still just pissing and shitting humans?
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You and almost everyone else here are the romanticizers Tilikum. I’m telling it like it is.
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I am not so sure about this. License plate I fo I believe is not publicly available.
In fact even police have to log every license plate request.
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Women are far and away more pragmatic about men’s affairs. I know of several couples that have survived a man’s affair and none that have survived a woman’s affair.
You could probably plot your relative alphaness against what your wife will tolerate.
brothel outside country < … < discrete mistress < rumored affair < open mistress < claiming bastards < having your wife assist in selection of your harem (as seen on Marco Polo)
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Pragmatism has nothing to do with it. The sexes are different. A man (religious or not) could have an affair and still love his wife and child deeply. A woman (usually) cannot have an affair unless she loathes the husband. Think “variety” for men and “hypergamy / serial monogamy” for women. If a woman cheats, she’s already 90% out the door.
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I actually saw some statistics on such a subject. It’s nowhere near 100% for women and 0% for men. For men, about a third of the ones having affairs want to leave their wife for their mistriess. For women, about two thirds of the adulterous ones want to leave the husband for the mister. I think everybody here can agree that female promiscuity is bad for society. I personally think that male promiscuity is less dangerous but still dangerous and should be avoided. It’s like the difference between driving after drinking 5 beers and driving after drinking 10 beers. 10 beers is more dangerous to other motorists, but 5 beers is still a bad idea.
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I mean, I thought this would be f**king evident. You’re implying that men aren’t as pragmatic about cheating and they’re all butt-hurt so they leave or some s**t? How many times have we read stories of mewling manlets (TM) begging their cheating wives to say, while these women callously rape them in divorce court?
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That is pleading with their executioner, not pragmatism. How many of those manlets would take the position if the innocent party could kick the other to the curb and keep everything?
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My point was, laws or no laws, women who cheat are already checked out of the marriage. Pragmatism (from a man’s perspective) doesn’t even enter into the equation at that point because it’s nearly impossible to turn it around once it reaches the point of her cheating. Perhaps women are the only ones who can afford to be pragmatic when the other spouse cheats.
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My point is, once a woman reaches the point of cheating, she’s already checked out of the marriage. From the man’s perspective, pragmatism doesn’t even enter the equation because it’s all he can do to keep her from physically leaving (as she has already left emotionally). Perhaps women are the only ones who can be pragmatic when the other spouse cheats as he usually wants to remain with her and the family.
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I think careerism in anyone is stupid because of how much of a time suck it is. In the current corporate climate, you’re going to have to bend over backwards and brown nose quite a bit too to get ahead. Generally, I regard people that define themselves by their careers to be vacuous and boring.
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Careerism != corporate drone slaving.
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Well, good luck with careerism without being a drone slave. That means not working for a corporation or in academia, which excludes most careers in today’s world. The drone mentality isn’t even my biggest gripe with careerism. It’s mostly that the vast majority of careerists are insipid, shallow people who often consider the amassing of meaningless baubles to have some merit. They have no real interests that require talent(outside their career) or a call for anything, they’re largely ignorant about what happens around them, about literature or music etc. The only way in which careerism makes sense for men is if they’re married and building a legacy. Otherwise you’re pissing away a vast amount of time on things that aren’t truly rewarding anyway. I respect far more men that took half a year off work and bought a jeep and lived out of it for that time while traveling through Siberia than some fruitcake who thinks spending time in an office gets him ahead.
Sure, if you have a sweet gig set up by your family or through connections, don’t blow it, but I don’t know anyone under 40 who became happy by working and most successful people I’ve talked to, regardless of country, got plenty of doors opened by their parents or family friends. Corruption in the West is endemic. So work to fund the stuff that really matters to you, but your work is totally irrelevant in the grand scheme of things and to who you are. Men not getting this is why you have so many men with money having to buy the attention of women.
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Yes. If your vocation takes priority over your avocation, you’re livin’ wrong. Endeavor to convert the latter into the former!
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Compartmentalist
Logistics for the CAP inclined married man–setup a PO Box at a UPS store or the like, use that address to open a bank account, divert a small amount of your paycheck to that account, and you are funded for philandering. I am closing in on a Marriott points free room with my next rendezvous.
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I did the same gal twice this week. She came hard both times using the magic wand. I did doggy style after that and it was good.
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was it your wife?
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“was it your wife?”
You bastard.
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How many things feel better than getting a hot women’s phone number?
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Wouldn’t know.
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“Wouldn’t know.”
Yes, but you could still make it happen. You still have time. I wish I was your age.
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the thrill when you first get her pussy out
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Getting a hot (white) guy’s phone number, of course!
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Besides the fact that he’s an Eeyore and a whiner, or at least pretends to be because that’s who goes to his site,
What about Roosh V’s idea that damaged men from less-than-adoring parents are better with women?
here: http://www.rooshv.com/women-in-their-prime-prefer-sex-with-damaged-men
Any thoughts?
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Good job at seeing through to the money. This article http://www.dailystormer.com/the-jews-of-the-pick-up-artist-industry/ may be overzealous, but it’s a reminder to try to see through to the money.
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Comment sampler:
“Despite [being Jewish, CH] has positioned himself at the center of the WN brand of PUA. He may be leading this segment of the industry so as to lead and control it, which is just what you’d expect from a Jew.
“Some of his posts are interesting and mostly accurate as far as I can tell, but he also overwhelms you with a lot of “game” ideas and techniques that I think are counter-productive in helping you succeed with women.
“His views on women and dating are quite narcissistic and seem somewhat Jewish.”
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“I looked at it and a couple of the other blogs. I am thinking of doing a satire piece. That would be fun for me, and probably the best way to get the point across. I think anyone preaching that the only way to present yourself as confident is to be an asshole is probably a Jew.”
Where do I sign up!
Matt
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The JQ is a legitimate item of inquiry, but far too many take it to monomaniacal extremes.
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where did this whole “ch is a ykw” thing come from? i’ve started to see it more and more. that seems exceptionally unlikely to me, but i suppose anything is possible.
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What about Roosh V’s idea that damaged men from less-than-adoring parents are better with women?
Damaged men? Depends. Living in that kind of situation can also easily produce omegas with no self-confidence whatsoever instead of alphas.
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It makes sense to me (observationally and personally).
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the dumbest thing anyone, especially men, can do is have children. considering the whole process is rooted in ego gratification – i mean, what other reason is there to have children? there isn’t one – and the prospect of how messed up society is, why would any person in their right mind create a new generation just to do the same stuff all over again?
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Gamma Gary the Drama Fairy is that you? You are right dude. NEVER have kids!
Meantime, I’ll knock up your old lady (unlikely right?) for ya twinkster 🙂
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You’ll venture down red pill lane a little bit Tilikum, but you turn around about a quarter of the way and have to resort to sarcasm and smart remarks because things get too scary for you. That’s just you protecting your ego
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lozolozlozlll
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First off…it’s been happening since humans existed. Even your father still did it despite probably those same thoughts.
Second…I don’t have kids but I do see the value in a man’s life to experience being a co-creator to a new human life.
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This over-simplifies the lived experience of many guys. Of course, there are downsides to having kids. Anyone can imagine them. But the downsides are remembered more strongly when your kids turn out to be stupid and ugly and maybe constantly trying to take your money.
On the other hand… if your kids turn out, right in front of your eyes, to be almost too good to be true, the whole idea of listing “downsides” begins to seem absurd.
Just being around very beautiful, fit, intelligent – sane- good humored young people tends to elevate ones mood.When those same fine young people think of you- their Father- as another incarnation of Thor or Odin, if not MORE. , well, maybe it was worth it.
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earl, your argument is everyone is and has been doing it, so why not do it?
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Rum, how is what you just said anything else but ego-gratification?
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‘earl, your argument is everyone is and has been doing it, so why not do it?’
Yeah…billions of people have done it before, they must get something out of it.
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Right earl, I said in my initial post that it’s ego gratification
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Nihilists are depressing, throw rocks at them
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no, it’s just that the truth is depressing, so we have to come up with ways of distracting ourselves from thinking about them
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The things Stinl has seen in the abyss, mannnnn. He can’t even.
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so you want us all to go extinct? thats where your logic leads.
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will not this race go extinct someday? of course it will (just a matter of when and how)
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Certainly the dumbest thing YOUR parents did.
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I love being a father. You need to grow up first but God has ways of planting bombs in the temples of our dreams.
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“God has ways of planting bombs in the temples of our dreams.”
nicely put
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Couldn’t agree more…just ask Matt King how his romances with Kate/GeishaKate/Kate Minter and Littlespoon/FeministX turned out.
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I like this. Related: how do you make God laugh? Tell him about your plans.
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“God has ways of planting bombs in the temples of our dreams.”
I would say, rather, God has a way of blocking our petty ambitions. When Mark and I were first engaged, there was the expectation that he would put me in a position to be able to stay at home. As you may know, all that fell apart. But we rallied and stuck together and fought through.
However, by the time we married, it was clear to him that the marriage was based purely on love for him as a person. I have no wedding ring, although I would like one so that its obvious to other men that I am married. I am proud of us and what we have done. Neither of us needs a lot of money to be happy.
And so everything that we could have considered a “bomb” has actually served the purpose of making us more humble, more united, more happy in what we have. We are working on something very big now. So much better than his previous opportunity. So much better than a run of the mill job. And its not about the money. Its about creating a better future for our town and our children.
So, that “heartache and the thousand natural shocks that flesh is heir to” when God knocks you down it his way of getting your attention. If you give him your focus, he sets you back on the right path.
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“Related: how do you make God laugh? Tell him about your plans.”
Same thought
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http://thosewhocansee.blogspot.fr/2013/07/we-are-wild-animals-treat-us-as-such.html?m=1
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Granted the things about woman that go this route are true…although I don’t think it is good in the long run for a man to be these things either.
I don’t know many men on their death bed who wished they stayed a little longer in the office. Being proud of your career and doing a good job is fine…but turning it into an all encompassing lifestyle makes Jack a dull boy.
If a guy has a beer or two to loosen up….that’s fine. Saying alcoholism is fine because it’ll create a never ending charming personality is a blatant lie.
And I’m still trying to figure out how a man can be promiscous without creating a promiscous woman. And once you invite a promiscous woman in your life…it’s hard to put Pandora back in the box.
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The more a woman drinks alcohol, the greater the chances that her twat will stink.
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Considering today’s world… what’s the ideal N count for a woman to settle down with?
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< 3
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It could be argued that 3 is far from ideal, since those 3 studmuffins will probably have reamed her out in every conceivable way, and dumped so many gallons of their ball sauce into her, that her teeth are metaphorically floating. 3 ONS might be better than 3 LTRs, on account of the reduced beaver wear&tear.
Look at the mathematics of a woman who’s taken 100 single nobs: (rom ROK) “100 men * 6” average length * 10 average strokes per minute * 20 minutes = 120,000 inches of cock going in and out of this one woman.
= 10,000 feet of cock
= 1.89 miles of cock
Add more men to this mix, suit the numbers to taste, and… she becomes even more “well-traveled.”
3 men could have laid her thousands of times each, so the young lady’s mileometer will need to be ‘clocked’ by a sympathetic mechanic/labiaplastician.
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Considering the times, less than three is great. I prefer 0.
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Remember that you will still need game regardless of whether she has a low or even 0 N count.
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i agree with the others.
under three is good. still need game no matter what.
girls with low notch counts may not have the bonding issues that high notch count girls have but they are at risk of having fear-of-missing-out syndrome. gotta keep them believing that you are the be all to end all so they don’t start thinking they settled too soon.
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Reblogged this on XWorkx.
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Guy at 1:20 alpha or just a jerk trying to be alpha because a girl happens to be there?
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guy with the gray shirt is a significantly better fighter than the dude with the wifebeater. he wasn’t afraid despite it basically being 5 on 1. i’m on his side. following dumb rules is for the birds.
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This is basically how Asia operates.
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Any thoughts on the shooting of the 50 yo, slow running and unarmed black dude by officer Michael Thomas Slager in US? Would this act of the police officer count as a beta male rage?
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cracker pigs vs ferral nigs
the joy
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TBF, back home plice can drop gipsies that are running away, no prob.
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I only saw the footage where the nog ran away. He was pretty fast and made it to the treeline in a couple of seconds. The cop had to shoot him premeditated at that point. I think beta male rage or unwarranted fear caused him to be so trigger happy. He committed murder though from what I know of the case.
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Beyond manslaughter, it is debatable
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Voluntary manslaughter in Sakerlina
2-30 yrs in prizn. My guess is 4, upfront.
oink
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I have witnessed my first nig-spouted “sheeit” in the wild. I thought it was a mild jab. Amazing the depths nigs will plumb.
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I’ll just leave this here:
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The sad thing is that this is no hyperbole
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The Germans have it right of course – ahead of their time as usual.
Bored, frustrated with life – head down to your local FKK and bang hot young 7s, 8s and 9s. Been there, done that- puts a smile on your face, gives you a shot in the arm. No drama, no baggage – and it actually spices up things at home
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Let me just start by saying that I totally agree with most of what has been said. However, I am not sure alcoholism is good for anyone…man or woman. But yes, women have come a long way in lowering their value based on past mistakes. I’m married and I have to say that telling your husband about your past sexual encounters is not the most redeeming thing ever. It was hard but necessary.
But you know what…it wouldn’t have been necessary if I had just kept my legs closed in the first place and preserved my virtue. So ladies, there is nothing wrong with waiting till marriage. It is unfortunate that the media makes promiscuity attractive and we have to raise our daughters with so much opposing force. How do we protect them from it all. How do we tell them that it is wrong to be so loose before marriage and that when they find a good man they will regret it.
On a different note, what is the hype about black men these days. I see more and more white women hooking up with black men and having their babies out of wedlock. It is ridiculous. They carry these babies as if they are a purse or something of a status symbol. A symbol of what exactly?? That your self esteem is so low that you have to run around fucking anything with a black skin. I don’t understand the hype about black men. Oh and before you judge, I am a black woman.
I’m just saying. You already have the pleasure of embracing your white men. Its like having a brand new car but instead going to salvage a rusty one from the carnage dump. I am not referring to all women who date black men in this case. Just those who present themselves as cheap whores to be stained. Yes I said it…STAINED.
Anyway, as I was trying to say earlier. Losing you virginity before marriage is not worth it. Because you can find a great man and it is a shame that you would not be able to offer that to him. It already damages the marriage before it even starts. And what is with the feminists of this generation. Career women need help…seriously. Every man deserves to have a woman cook and clean for him. To bare him children and take care of them. Be home to welcome your husband when he returns from a busy day at work. And if he demands sex, you give it him happily. Don’t make him work for it…he shouldn’t have to. Your body belongs to him. What happened to good old-fashioned values. Where the woman serves her husband obediently. Submit yourself to him. It is not a sign of weakness, it is a act that increases your value. I do feel sorry for men these days and what pool of women they have to choose from.
Ladies…you need to wake up!! Do it for our daughters.
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I agree with your stance on alcoholism. Rampant male alcoholism leads to the kinds of situations that are seen on Native American reservations. If all White men want to behave like Native American men, so be it. I’ll convert to Judaism if that ever happens.
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