Reservoir Tip slips the thematic quip in his anecdotal blip,
Had a great, short exchange with a German girl I’ve been seeing:
“You know… I’m getting ready to leave town, so maybe I’ll actually take you on anise little date before I go.”
“Out of your apartment?!”
It struck me: every date I’ve been on with this girl has been she coming to my apartment to hang out, or me making her take me to get food or groceries. I’ve never spent a penny on her, or taken her anywhere even remotely interesting.
This is the same girl that told me what she liked about me was the fact that I’m an asshole, and all her ex-boyfriends were lost puppies.
The things you can get away with when you have the right attitude…
So true. When I’ve been on top of my game, full of self-indulgent attitude, the women in my life would demand so little, and give so much. Fancy dinners? No. How about crashing in bed all day, fucking and channel flipping. That’s the shared intimacy which makes fond romantic memories you might tell your grandkids with sufficient euphemistic nuance.
The right attitude is the equivalent of eight figure bank, seven inches extra height, six circles of social connections, five academic credentials, and four plates on bench press. The Attitude is irreplaceable.
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eofahapi is our runner-up COTW:
I believe that the reason men experience such intense highs and lows, is because for them their emotion is not used as much. They do not talk or live in emotions, they live in logic, so when that emotion boils over, it is raw, uncultivated, childlike and intense. It is extremely endearing.
Women love a stoic man not necessarily for his stoicism, but for the anticipation they feel for his white hot passion when he is roused from his stoic slumber.
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Finally, a COTW consolation prize goes to PA, for his recounting an experience with a svelte sexpot that would send the typical tenth wave millennial fug feminist into a rage spiral of rape-flecked spittle.
Confession from my early 20s. Hotel party, lots of people and drinking. This dude and I both gun for the same chick. Unfortunately she goes for him. He was a grade-A asshole alpha, so I understand. Later everyone crashes in various beds, floor, etc. Dude, chick, and I share a queen size bed and I get woken up by their fumbles at fucking. He got whiskey dick and they gave up. Now I’m horny and wanna do something.
She seems asleep. So I coyly put my arm on her, pretending its in my sleep. I stop and gauge her response. Nothing. Almost, like she’s pretending to be asleep. I tell myself to go ahead, and I slide my hand up her T-shirt, no bra underneath. And I am ready for her to jump awake angry, in which case I’d say “sorry, I was asleep and probably thought you’re my last girlfriend.”
But she is still. I friggin swear, by her breathing, that she is pretending to be asleep. So I start playing with her breasts, gently at first and then boldly. Horny as hell at this point, I slide my hand down her ribcage, her tight tummy, down to the elastic of her shorts. and she moves her hand to block me, at which point I know she’s awake and then I travel back north.
Female coyness is an evolved behavioral tic to fool men — and. come to think it, fool women as well — about women’s rapacious sexual urges. Of course, a girl can pretend to be asleep to receive the caresses of that slow hand without bearing the emotional dissonance that often accompanies prompt sexual submission to an illicit interloper.
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Finally? One more! Cutting deep with the poison-tipped shiv, Musashi scans the Vox staff for signs of dormant testosterone, and draws a conclusion which earns him (her?) a consolation runner-up COTW.
If the grid went down everyone in that photo would be dead within 24 hours.
Those people won’t last a day once the diversity gets riled up.
They could use the equity in their blue city fantasyland one-bedroom condos to pay protection money, which might buy a few of them a week’s worth of extra life. Beyond that, there’s no amount of semantic evasion that’ll save them once the diversity hits the fan.
[…] Comment Of The Week: Attitude Begets Gratitude […]
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The lesson that the German girl confirms:
“Benefits should be conferred gradually; and in that way they will taste better”
–Niccolo Machiavelli
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CH: “crashing in bed all day, fucking and channel flipping”. She can go shopping with her girlfriends. What she needs from her man is to get F*CKED. Hard. With lots of 0rgasms.
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And buns in her oven.
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except everything is a passing moment and all the orgasms and children don’t mean much of anything – if anything – when she’s once again in a deprived state, which is the base state of existence. For the men who didn’t comprehend: it means that your previous ejaculations are irrelevant when you have more germ cells you need to expel from your body
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Well, if you insist: Womem actually get the most intense “org@sm” of their lives from the endorphin rush immediately following natural v@ginal ch!ldb!rth. It’s why the dykes are so into f!sting. And pretty much every p0rn actress [whom I’m aware of] has had her @nus so badly stretched out of shape from f!sting that she surely has to wear adult Depends diapers to catch her bowel movements. Bottom Line: Michelle Duggar probably has had about the most intense set of sexu@l experiences of any human female on the planet.
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Initially read that last line as “there’s no amount of SEMITIC evasion that’ll save them once the diversity hits the fan”. LOL’ed. Nogs don’t do semantics.
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This site is brimming with epic posts and comments, it’s difficult to pick favourites.
Women love a stoic man not necessarily for his stoicism, but for the anticipation they feel for his white hot passion when he is roused from his stoic slumber.
Yes, this is it.
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Unleashing The Monster Within. Your woman needs to see that every once in a while.
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Yeah, that’s a great observation.
That’s part of what they mean when they say they “like a challenge”.
Of course, stoicism is hamsterized as “emotional inavailability”, but its really just how an actual man acts.
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… and for his stoicism. There is something lost in CH’s translation.
The key concept here is continence. Disciplining oneself. Self-control. The stoic can apply his emotion as needed, he can let it flow when the situation warrants; the “white hot passion” guy cannot apply stoicism as needed, he slave to being “roused.”
There’s another word for it, too: chastity. Which, again, is not about abstaining from passion (the modern connotation) so much as channeling it to willful ends.
Eofhapi’s comment in full was about men’s remarkable ability to apply their “intense[] emotions … in extreme circumstances” as opposed to women managing a steady wave of pathos in every little circumstance they encounter. To indulge unreliable passions is an act of the man’s will. For women it is a way of life.
Further, when men do engage their deliberately restrained emotional expression, it manifests as more honest and “raw” and “endearing,” because they do not have exquisitely-honed (read: manipulative) processes for conveying emotion. Therefore it comes out more “uncultivated, childlike and intense.”
Women admire this range of control — so foreign to them — more than they are impressed by some Jersey Shore hothead who is known for his dramatic, PMS-like mood swings.
Like I said at the time, hers was one of the most perceptive comments posted to this site this year. I’m proud like a papa.
Matt
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This: “Women love a stoic man not necessarily for his stoicism, but for the anticipation they feel for his white hot passion when he is roused from his stoic slumber.”
… reminded me of this:
“Poetry is not a turning loose of emotion, but an escape from emotion; it is not the expression of personality, but an escape from personality. But, of course, only those who have personality and emotions know what it means to want to escape from these things.”
– T.S. Eliot
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Excellent Eliot quote.
On poetry: Vapid and debased examples of the art form often stem from the poet employing the form as a vehicle to emote rather than a vehicle to provoke emotion in the reader.
Below is favorite of mine:
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Is that the white Don KIng?
what country he from?
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T whack my boy,
Again, use the white side of your brain or a Google search, whatever is more accessible.
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For those of you who appreciate the music of language below is a reading of three poems written by Richard Eberhart.
http://www.poetryfoundation.org/features/audioitem/4586
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My white side is old, worn out and calcified just like your game.
I get much blacker when I deal with the cracker so don’t be half steppin and comin at me lame.
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Big mistake, thinking the white half is stale and the black half is vital. That shit is just stories merchant-dictators tell you to flatter you.
Look at a rap video: ‘boons flashin’ baubles. Loon at faggy Frisco swpls: dislocated people looking for their spirit.
Your mom elected for her boy to have welfare-beggar monkey hair genes. Shoot each other over sneakers while merchant-dictators smile genes. Too bad you feel that you can’t measure up to your spiritual white genes.
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LOL,
if this is your weak attempt to spit some verse?; all I got to say is “thanks for playing”. You got a lot of heart but your rhyme skillz are whack. Even Greg Eliot gotta scratch his hee-uud on that one.
You are a long way from Starbucks son; try not to get yourself killed out here.
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T whack,
You’re too funny … I with I could ruffle your dreadlocks.
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As you goin’ gentle into the night,
No game and no fight,
‘Cause it’s white that’s might,
An’ might makes right.
As yo’ night gets blacker,
Think back on dis cracker,
Who be giving you the fits,
And gettin’ titz on the Ritz,
Mmmmmmmmmm… gooooooooood cracker!
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T whack …
Resident poèt maudit.
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Yo Blonde,
You’re black and you’re weak
your conscience i’ll tweak
for being a freak
with no guidance to seek
You hang with the whites
Cuz you ain’t got no sites
You want some rights?
Your spit is bile and weak
Wake up homes,
You don’t compete
I tell you again
you’re weak in the knees
you’re a lame-ass bitch
“accept me please”?
Go back where you came
Away from this place
You’ll get your ass shot
And scrambled your face
Your head on a stick
on the corner
to remind your stupid friends
where they belong
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Jbs white side likes to see his darkie side suffer so it overrides his black genes to send him here every day for ritual punishment.
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OT, but gawd damn, shit the bed, this is good:
http://mpcdot.com/forums/topic/155-the-limits-of-human-scale/
Best thing I can remember reading on the tubez in quite a while.
Have a strong one in hand, though…damn.
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Tldr. Bored after the first paragraph.
Population control is never necessary. A society that would need to implement it is a society that has reached its pinnacle and is filled with expendable parasites. By the time it gets to this point, social upheaval is well underway. The herd will cull itself. Life is an endless series of ironies
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Would?
You speaking from some parallel universe where is this isn’t demonstrable reality?
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Reservoir Tip has it right, whether by accident or intention. Err on the side of stinginess. Exaggerate and stretch the value of your time and attention as farrrrrrrrr as you can, and reward good behavior AFTER the fact. It’s like starting an employee at $8 an hour, so that there’s room to reward improvement.
My first few dates are usually helping me run errands. “Hey, come with me to go buy a box of screws, check the air in my tires, buy dog food “, etc. This vetting process lays a lot of groundwork in one feel swoop.
I love doing this to a five star princess, just for shits and giggles. The results are nearly always positive. Even when they aren’t I get a good laugh.
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I love doing this to a five star princess, just for shits and giggles. The results are nearly always positive. Even when they aren’t I get a good laugh.
Hot babes long for a man who’ll treat them like an average chick.
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except when theyre rattled with insecurity
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They’re all rattled with insecurity. It’s just that most of them are great at masking it with meds and deflecting it with snark.
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Nice… which reminds me of a tale of my youth, so have a seat, kids.
Before I got married, I was trying to make up my mind between two possible future choices of bride…
Both gals were evenly matched in looks and sweetness and.. dare I say… even displaying a modicum of intelligence under the right circumstances.
Alas, even their breasts were of admirable comparative size, so that time-honoured tie-breaker likewise failed me.
Hence I tossed a cent on the ground and told them the one who brought it back to me gets a ring on her finger.
As I mentioned, they were both evenly matched in every way, and both eagerly… and simultaneously… grabbed for said penny, in an Amazonian effort to win the man of her desire.
This is how copper wire was invented.
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pa’s comment describes a very very common occurence, i hooked up with so many women in college just by the 2 of us crashing in the same bed by accident after drinking. iv crawled into bed with girls, and they have crawled into bed with me sleeping. it seems creepy on the surface but deep down both parties want it. its the best excuse for ‘it just happened’ for girls
i guess your shit out of luck if this happens to you in america and your a beta, youve got a rape accusation coming your way ha.
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“i hooked up with so many women in college just by the 2 of us crashing in the same bed by accident after drinking”
Isn’t this how most people get laid in their late teens and twenties? Did I miss the resurgence of holding hands on the porch swing and pitching woo?
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This is important. If you don’t drink in high school and college, your are completely screwed (P.C. for the filter). Social life in our idiotic society revolves around the vile drug alcohol, so don’t think you can be, “above it.”
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Well, I suppose there’s aggressive matchmaking like the Mormons do, or marrying your cousin like Muslims.
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I’d argue that it’s more about pot now than it is alcohol, which I find even more vile.
I never touched either in high school, and still haven’t smoked pot, but I can certainly see where you’re coming from.
It’s all pack-following crap that I never wanted to get involved in, though. Sure, high school sucked for me sex-wise, though I defnitely passed up a lot of poon from good looking girls out of my own obliviousness, but why would you want to be involved with that crowd anyway?
On a side note, a great date that I take girls on often (I make them drive) is going to a cigar shop and picking out a cigar. I like to explain the the process of smoking a cigar, what I like about it, the flavors, etc. to the girls, because whether they are interested in smoking or not, they’re interested in a man who is passionate and knowledgable about something, especially something she isn’t used to.
Then I pull them back to my apartment, smoke my cigar on the porch, which is great in the winter time because they like to get close to me, and building tension between puffs as we converse.
The lay is inevitable.
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OM, I was you once – a complete tee-totaller – no booze at all through high school and the beginning of college. Then my college gf ran off with some dude in a garage band and I was all “WTF???” and so I had to reassess everything and I ended up taking a papist chick out to a nice restaurant [btw, papists drink booze like fish drink H2O] and I got up my courage up and decided to order us some wine and the waitress recommended a riesling and the rest was history. Now I strongly urge you not to waste good brain cells on poison like beer or wh!skey, but sitting in a restaurant [or lying on a blanket in the park], and sipping on a nice glass of wine, with a chick whose company you enjoy, is on the short list [maybe the Top 5] of the very best and most fun things you can do in this life.
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“btw, papists drink booze like fish drink H2O”
Jaysus, Joseph and Mary, I didn’t know the tee totaling American Protestant existed outside Norman Rockwell’s America anymore. You guys have had a rough go of it in the culture wars since the Noble Experiment met its ignominious end. The WASPs I’ve known certainly didn’t need any encouragement from our king in the pointy hat what sits on his throne in Rome to imbibe with Catholic zeal.
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Pauline Kael: “I don’t know anyone who voted for Nixon.”
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Let’s not go crazy now… we Pentecostals can teach y’all a think or two about the bending of the wrist.
The only thing we don’t allow is standing intercourse, for fear it will lead to dancing.
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Ha. Ha. Silent majority indeed. Maybe a little too quiet. The country was a much better place before you abdicated in favor of they who shall not be named.
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Not a teetotaler. I started drinking socially when I was about 25, so as soon as it was too late. I only did that to try to fit in; I still don’t like being under the influence of anything. I’d rather do something interesting than make myself dumb enough to think standing around talking to drunk persons is interesting. Drinking is a necessary evil. I drink just enough to earn permission to be in our designated socialization areas (bars, parties, etc.) without getting drunk. It’s such a headache to have to spend money on that garbage and monitor my intake so I don’t end up dead, in jail, or without a ride.
I’ve learned the immense amount of willpower I exerted to resist peer pressure throughout high school and college was wasted–counterproductive even. Peer pressure should have been my guiding light. Hollywood likes to romanticize the individual. It’s a Western thing, I guess. In truth, even in the West if you try to go the opposite direction of the herd you will be trampled. We’re social animals, unfortunately.
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The Church of Peter — so named after the rock and conqueror of Romans, forever — is the golden mean between paganism and puritanism.
We drink and can hold our drink because the Lord created us “that [we] may have life, and have it abundantly.”
Benedicamus Domino.
Matt
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Told a Russian girl to come over, and after we’d get something to eat. Got there, ran my hand over her and asked, “you need to shower”; and she said she already had. Took my hand and headed for the bedroom.
When she dropped me off after dinner, I said, “I’m leaving Saturday. If you want it again you’ll have to come before that.” She thought for a second, and said, “I’ll come Friday”; and she did, both ways.
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CH – Thanks for the COTW mention….I’m a he.
Everyone should play a little game when they’re out-and-about, maybe at Walmart or a restaurant, look around and ask yourself “how many of these people would survive a no-shit, grid-down, fighting in the streets crisis?”
It’s disturbing to say the least how many seem to possess no tangible skills, no physical prowess, no guts. They are utterly dependent on things staying just as they are.
If the crisis lasts six months, half the country would be dead….at a minimum.
The upside is the more intelligent/attractive females will recognize what’s happening early and immediately whore themselves out to whomever they think will take care of them. So, there’s that…which is nice.
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Because if you did die you’d be back in nonexistence, which is where you came from originally and where you’re headed anyway, regardless of how long you tread water before drowning
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I’ve been doing this for years. The reality is very few will survive – period. The closer you are to the urban areas the higher the level of carnage will be. These limp wristed faggots have created a society that’s a powder keg ready to erupt. I remember my old man a number of years back right after Obambis election laughing and saying to me ” the biggest voters for this Marxist clown are the upper middle class whites and when this demon is done wreaking his carnage they will be the demographic who pays the highest price. Idiots”
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Spent the day on 14th Street in DC and I could not believe how many faggots straight or gay there was. It spurred me into serious day game and the results were immense. One girl even complained that guys in DC are too shy.
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Another day approach. All comments, criticisms appreciated.
I went to lunch with my younger brother today. While I waited for him on the patio, a waitress came by with my drink. She pointed at two guys in the parking lot and whispered, “I think those guys are homeless.” They cracked open a cheap beer to share and confirmed her suspicion.
“Why are you whispering?”
“Because I don’t want them to hear me,” she whispered.
“They can’t hear you. Stop being retarded.”
“I want them to leave.”
“You should tell them that. Actually, go fight them.”
“How about I fight you,” she said as she gently slapped my arm.
“Oh, so now you’re hitting me?”
She made a fist and said, “That wasn’t hitting. I’ll show you hitting,” with a big smile on her face.
“Don’t do that. I believe in equality; I’ll hit you back.”
She giggled as she walked back to the kitchen. A huge group of kids came in a few minutes later and the whole staff went to help them, and I never saw her again. I should have asked for her number before she walked away. I thought I would have had another chance to talk to her. Still, I think it was a good exchange. I’m definitely getting more comfortable with these interactions, too.
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“I’ll hit you back” < "I'll hit that."
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@Benson
Missed a beautiful window to turn things sexual:
“Don’t do that. I believe in equality; I’ll hit you back.”
While a good reply, if you had said something like “Careful, that’ll get you a spanking.” or “Don’t do that. I believe in equality; I’ll smack you back…on the bum (or “on that ass of yours” if you’ve already got a sexual vibe with her and calibrate that you can go that direct).
It’s making a similar joke (“if you hit me there’ll be consequences ’cause I’m a big ol’ alpha male”) but by turning it into spanking instead of just hitting it subtly turns things sexual. If I’m ever joke about hitting a girl or punishments for her I always use spanking.
Subtle nuance, but the concept itself of looking for those windows to turn things sexual is a big part of my game and why I’m able to set sexual frames early on which get the girl thinking of me as “he’s sexy” instead of just “he’s funny”.
Only pointing it out ’cause the rest of the interaction was solid. Well done, keep it up.
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“Subtle nuance, but the concept itself of looking for those windows to turn things sexual is a big part of my game and why I’m able to set sexual frames early on which get the girl thinking of me as ‘he’s sexy’ instead of just ‘he’s funny.'”
What a great way to escalate things. Thanks, dude.
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“How would you guys have moved the interaction forward?”
Everything comes down to instigate, isolate and escalate. That’s it.
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I don’t get how anyone doesn’t think to sexualize things.
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@YaReally, Kant, HABD anyone else.
A week ago Kant wrote something to the effect of me conveying too much interest so I tried something different with the 24 year old film student I met online and took out over the weekend.
Smoking body…6-face. But cute. She showed up at the venue in heels, sexy stockings and short shorts. Her personality was bubbly and happy…and we did have a lot more in common than I had thought.
She was already telling me how “honoured” she was to meet someone so accomplished. I didn’t have to try to hard. We had dinner and she just seemed enthusiastic about everything. I asked her about 50 Shades of Grey and we talked about it from an aesthetic point of view.
There is “50 Shades Game…” which you guys should try. EVERY girl has seen it so I start to ask them about what they thought….usually “Boring”… is the answer. My cue to start asking about “What not enough fxxxkng for you?”
Talking about this film is a great way to sexualize. I suggested we go back to my place and watch 9 1/2 Weeks. I didn’t make a big deal out of it.
As we walked to the ferry, I saw the big ferris wheel and suggested we try it. She loved the spontanaety.
I also took photos of her legs which she also liked.
When we got back to my place, I made tea, set up the movie…then she blabbed away. I slowly moved in, looked at her, kissed her hard….That was it. I banged her 3 times. She was so into it.
Later she said “Wow, did we have alcohol?” no we didn’t have a drop.
Then it was like “It just happened” she said. So the idea of just being clear in the intent without being overt worked. I held hands, talked about the movie, took photos of her legs which she liked…but it was all calibrated. She seemed open. I also “framed” her….”You seemed like the type who would like having her picture taken…” etc.
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@Benson target girls who are on their own….two girls…one girl is hot the other ugly…too much work. The fatty is a natural cockblock. Why make things more difficult?
The whol PUA thing about “neg the hot one and then focus on her friend…” is fine but why?
Two girls immediately puts an unnecessary obstable in your path.
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@walawala
“Two girls immediately puts an unnecessary obstable in your path.”
If they’re both cute enough to justify an approach?
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@Benson “If they’re both cute…”
One will always be a cockblock. You’re creating work for yourself and risking the possibility of getting nothing.
I’d highly recommend you focus and get good at identifying single prospects. Approaching single girls is a challenge dont’ complicate it with other obstacles.
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“I’d highly recommend you focus and get good at identifying single prospects. Approaching single girls is a challenge dont’ complicate it with other obstacles.”
Fair enough. I only ask because the pickings were slim yesterday. Despite my stopping at four different locations to run errands, the girl I mentioned was the only one I saw that would have been worth the effort.
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@Benson and @Wala – sure singles are easier because there are less variables to account for, however the tradeoff is it greatly retards your game. Same as going for lower SMV girls. Practice on all girls, singles, multi girl sets and mixed sets. That’s the best way to tighten your game and you will have many many more opportunities. No targets at all = no game development.
At this stage failing is as important as success, if you can sit back and analyze the interaction. You need as much feedback as possible.
I did the singles thing, don’t get me wrong and like not approach singles, but it makes you think you have magic, then you get blown out easily by a two set…
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sentient
I’m not against approaching a group. In fact, I did it accidentally a few weeks ago when I teased two girls for blocking my way to the register at a tobacco shop. I didn’t realize that that was my way in until they left.
But I didn’t have an excuse yesterday. I saw them first at the coffee shop, engaged in conversation, then later across the street at the thrift store I was at. Anything indirect I came up with sounded gay.
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@Benson: my go-to come-back:
“Behave, don’t make me send you to the naughty corner”.. (Thanks Krauser)
Turns things sexual, is dominant and reframes the whole thing back to you.
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I think I could have number closed with my original response, but had I responded with one of these reframes, would it have made it easier to get her out on a date? How would you guys have moved the interaction forward?
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@Benson…she’s giving clear IOI’s…after the “Behave” line, you could have just gone direct: “You seem crazy enough for me to want to get to know, what’ s number?”
I’ve use the “You seem xxxxx for me to want to get to know.” Works because it frames her a certain way ( you seem crazy/interesting/safe enough/whatever enough) but also makes your intent known (“for me to want to get to know”).
Girls like to be put into a “box” so they can either get out of it or feel that you know them more intimately.
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“…you could have just gone direct: ‘You seem crazy enough for me to want to get to know, what’ s number?'”
Definitely adding that to my bag of tricks.
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@Benson
Hired Gun tips:
Tell your buddy “I’m gonna go for this waitress’ number. When I kick you under the table, go to the bathroom for like 5 min.”
So when she’s on her way over your buddy fucks off and you have isolation with her. Flirt it up and drop a standard “you’re (some quality she has), I’m impressed. Most girls are (opposite of that quality, this is so she feels your interest is justified and she earned it for some special snowflake quality she has instead of you just macking every waitress). We should go for a drink sometime. What time are you off?” time-bridge number close, and you’re good.
And when your buddy comes back and asks if you got her number and you nod yes and he holds out his fist to bro-fist you, tell him to quit that shit till you get outside and no one can see cause it can trigger ASD if she or her co-workers see it.
Note that the game is exactly the same as with any girl: qualify her, time bridge, isolation, etc. Under her hired gun job she’s still just a normal girl who runs on the same emotions as other girls. Same with bitchy girls, hardcore man jaw feminist girls, strippers, your female boss at work, they’re all girls underneath and work the same way.
It’s just that a hired gun comes with the extra puzzle of “how do I avoid causing a scene so that she doesn’t feel the social pressure of co-workers and customers watching her hand out her number like a big ol slut and the creepy uncalibrated guy at the table thinks she’ll give him her number too etc”
Like you CAN number close her in front of your friend or a group esp for a casual hangout or group activity but it’s going to be a less sexual close than if you had isolation and isolation has a waaaaay higher % rate of success overall because it avoids ASD.
There’s a reason the trope of the waitress writing her number on the bill exists. It avoids causing a scene and she doesn’t even have to come back over and risk you saying “OBOY I WILL DEFINITELY TEXT YOU SO DO YOU WANNA GO OUT FRIDAY???” and causing a scene. She just silently makes her number appear for you and nobody has a clue.
With hired guns I like to use “What time are you off?” and push for meeting up after she gets off work. It means she’ll be a bit tired and not dolled up (usually they come to work in their waitress uniform if it’s plain looking and if it’s a sexy uniform usually they come to work in sweatpants and an old shirt no fucks given lol) but 1) being tired means getting fucked senseless and passing out curled up to a man after a few orgasms sounds appealing, 2) she’s still probably in a good mood excited to hang out and attracted/flirty VS hanging out a week later when who the fuck knows what mood she’ll be in, 3) customer service jobs blow and going for a drink after a long day of dealing with customer bullshit is appealing and 4) you can have her doll herself up for you next time to make up for whatever ugly shit she’s wearing after her shift.
Biggest thing is to calibrate and stay cool. If she hesitates and you pick up the vibe that you’ve put her in an awkward situ where she LIKES you but she likes you at WORK and doesn’t want to hang out outside of work (very common in customer service, like a stripper will have customers who she’s super into when they come in to visit but she separates her stripper life from her normal life, or she’s just happy to flirt and have a “safe” customer to hang out with when the creepers get too much to handle but she isn’t actually like “I want to date this guy and risk drama”), just lol and brush it off like it’s all good and keep flirting like normal. You can try again another time and demonstrating that calibration tells her you “get it” and won’t make drama for her so she’s more likely to meet up because you’ve shown you’re cool about it. Nothing is worse than gettig butthurt over a failed number close and then shit is too awkward for you to go there or for her to serve your table anymore.
If it’s daytime she’s probably off her shift at 5pm, if it’s evening and it’s a restaurant she’s probably off at 2am (which’ll end up being 3am after clean-up). If it’s a popular bar/club with lots of customers she’s probably off at 11pm cause usually a late shift 9pm-2am group of girls comes in.
If it’s a slow day/night you can txt her thru her shift after you get the number and keep her buying temperature spiked and it’s easier to get a few min of isolation in general to get her number in the first place so number closing her on a boring Monday shift where she’s watching the TVs in the bar half the day and has ample time to txt flirt with you can make her day more exciting VS number closing her on a Friday night shift where she’s running her ass off and can’t txt you and meeting up can feel more like a hassle.
If she meets up with you after her shift that’s basically a 100% green light to fuck her. Have a drink or two flirt it up and get the fuck outta there back to your place.
Also industry people all know eachother and are recognizable depending on how popular they are so don’t escalate in public cause they probably recognize the people at the table beside you or know the bartender etc. try taking her for coffee or to some obscure empty bar where she’s not likely to know anyone. Like some old people pub with literally no customers is perfect. She doesn’t care about how nice the venue is all she cares about is getting away with the perfect crime of boning a customer with no one judging her lol
Good luck.
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@walawala
“Girls like to be put into a “box” so they can either get out of it or feel that you know them more intimately.”
Good observation and well stated. Will probably steal this.
This is why making statements instead of asking questions is powerful. “Where are you from?” isn’t as emotionally engaging as “You’re a SoCal girl aren’t you, I can tell lol” where either you’re right and she gets an emotional spike of “omg what gave me away!! Do I act a certain way?? How did he know??” or you’re wrong and she goes “omg I am NOT!!! Why does he think that??” and has to defend herself, ESPECIALLY if your cold read is a bit of a neg (like you say it with the tone of voice of “oh no not ANOTHER one of these girls ugh”) where she’s REALLY on the defensive and determined to get out of the box you put her in.
Way more emotional rollercoaster, emotional impact, need to qualify herself to you, investment on her part to win you over, mystery, etc when you put her in boxes. The “so where are you from?” stuff is just boring information/resume exchange zzzzz
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So it sounds like I need to work on isolating in these situations. Speaking of which, I saw a girl while I was clothes shopping today. I wanted to approach but she was with her ugly friend the whole time. She never stepped away from her, and I couldn’t think of a subtle way to engage both of them.
Any suggestions?
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@Benson
“I wanted to approach but she was with her ugly friend the whole time. She never stepped away from her, and I couldn’t think of a subtle way to engage both of them.
Any suggestions?”
Indirect openers. Read Mystery Method, pay attention to Group Theory. This is all covered already lol
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My Gf told me something important tonight, and damn easy to remember. She said: “Psychosis is strange.”
@4^&#=+><?.+)(& !!!!!!!!!.
This conversation happened at Lolas Bar and Rolling horror freak show of a grill…located just a few short blocks from where we live.
She is getting so much better from her schizophrenia. I am back to giving her regular, daily. intensive shooting lessons again.
This strange seeming move has saved my actual life over and over again.
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> “her schizophrenia… regular, daily. intensive shooting lessons…” DA FUQ???
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I think it depends Benson. If you frequent the place and are trying to build something there then you are fine as you set yourself up as high value. She definitely showed interest. If you will not see her again then you could of asked for her number which would take some boldness.
Sounds like she is into fisting.
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She doesn’t know me on a first-name basis, but she’s seen me before. I took my ex-gf there once as well, which definitely helps.
“Sounds like she is into fisting.”
Sounds like I’m not interested.
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‘The right attitude is the equivalent of eight figure bank, seven inches extra height, six circles of social connections, five academic credentials, and four plates on bench press. The Attitude is irreplaceable.’
Internal disposition is always more important than external validation. And the more it is humble as opposed to exalted…the more you are getting it.
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Excellent video about freedom of association
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College Student Says You’re Just Not Smart Enough to Understand Safe Spaces
http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3278323/posts
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“When I say your argument makes me uncomfortable, it is because I am greatly concerned that you have not done the requisite thought and research into generating an inclusive thesis that considers as many nuances as necessary to deliver a sound debate,” DiZoglio writes. “If you do not believe that skin color, age, religious identity, sexuality, class or (dis)ability have an effect in cultural political or economic problems that we debate at universities, then it is you who is trying to remain comfortable despite such frightening realities.”
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I think this white guy in OB-GYN at Brown might have sired the mystery meat:
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Or mystery-meat was adopted? Or this is the second wife? Maybe nog cuckoldry?
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http://9gag.com/gag/aB3EGvN
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On the gift giving part….sadly yes. I do get girls I’m banging gifts. Usually it’s just food, sometimes a Business Class toiletries kit or pyjamas from first class—free-giveaways.
One girl I’m banging who I gave the pyjamas too can’t stop talking about them…it’s both a private joke but also genuine gratitude I thought of her.
The cheaper the gift…the more they’re excited. As I move up…I dedicate a group of songs I’m playing when I dj—they melt…that’s free.
But when I get something “looks” expensive…they don’t appreciate it.
I bought a girl I was banging stockings that cost $6 at a market in Vietnam but which would likely retail at Victoria’s Secret for $70…she just complained they didn’t quite fit right.
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The strongest effect from a gift I ever gave a girl: we’re driving to a party and at the community entrance I stop the car by the “welcome” landscaping, lean out my driver’s side door and pluck a flower for her.
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@PA yes. I still have some tendencies towards gift-giving that I’m trying to shake. The flower, or being at a party and taking a used champagne cork and signing it and giving it to her..cost nothing and have “value”.
The “cost” of the gift is irrelevant. Those stockings cost around the same as a cup of coffee…but somehow they “looked” expensive and she was actually kind of turned off.
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I’ve always been sparingly given gifts and when I do its something free and “au natural” like that. It does wonders for making the gina tingle.
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She was holding the flower during the entire party.
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Aw 🙂
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Best part, she was highly allergic but kept grasping that weed blossom anyway. Looked like she got punched in the face with all the swelling and redness and tears.
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True love… that’s a keeper!
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A real test of your Game is whether or not you can get a girl to accept your warm shit on her soft chest … on the first date.
The fastest I’ve convinced a young lady to swallow my kids was ~45 min after meeting her. If I reflect on that moment honestly, I’d have to admit she wouldn’t have let me duce on her breast in that timeframe; reason being, embarrassingly, my scat game ain’t that tight.
That said: Are girls seduced by scat game eligible for these tokes of appreciation you describe in your comment, or are they regulated to shit-n-dip status?
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I’m always been generous to a fault, and my open-handedness has become legend. I give magnificent friendship and lover’s gifts, or none at all.
I can’t help being sporty with me brasso… I always figure I can go out and make more.
“I drive my enemies before me and take their flocks. The Turks pay me 100 gold guineas a month in tribute, yet I am a poor man. For I am a RIVER TO MY PEOPLE!”
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i enjoy giving nice gifts as well. what’s the point of having money if you can’t spoil the people you love once in awhile?
and despite what most of these schmucks say, giving a girl something nice once in awhile does not lower your value in her eyes one iota.
if you are doing it right, she will only see you as more valuable than she already did and work harder to please you.
besides, nothing beats seeing a beautiful girl’s eyes light up and knowing it was your doing.
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wala,
“I bought a girl I was banging stockings that cost $6 at a market in Vietnam but which would likely retail at Victoria’s Secret for $70…she just complained they didn’t quite fit right.
that just pinged enough of her beta provider circuit to earn you a shit test…lol…
good luck!
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Notice everyone in that Vox photo is smiling, the classic modern prole smile. “Everything is great, please like me.” You look at photos older than 1960 and people looked how they normally look, or a stern stare as it gets older than the 1940s. Every president stares seriously in their presidential photo until you reach Ford and Reagan. Important people don’t smile much in their photos either. The higher the dependence on others, the bigger the smile. “Please like me. I’m not threatening to you.”
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This is a big topic of conversation – part of Evil Psychiatry Inc and the Gramsci Project’s goal of destroying masculinity and replacing it with Beta/Gamma docile eunuch servitude. EPI + GP start the indoctrination in frigging daycare:
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Back in the old days they were too busy getting shit done. Smiling was a luxury they couldnt afford.
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Don’t forget, back in the day lots of people were missing some teeth; it was rare for an average old man to take them all to his grave.
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For the benefit of your white brain half (we all know the black half be hopeless), the evil white man has had restorative dentistry for 300 years now.
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You’re being very niggardly with your research.
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You’ve exposed the chink in his logic.
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[…] Reservoir Tip slips the thematic quip in his anecdotal blip, Had a great, short exchange with a German girl I’ve been seeing: “You know… I’m getting ready to leave town, so maybe I’ll actually take you on anise little date before I go.” “Out of… […]
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Look the important question is: is that four plates in total, or four plates per side?
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Reblogged this on XWorkx.
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Went out with another couple last night. The other wife mentioned that guys are pigs which seems to be one theme of hers. She mentions situations where she was working on design projects and guys have made lewd comments. Also upset that guys(some older men) have made passes at her daughter during the time she was 16, 17 and 18 years old. She is very upset/hurt at her dad for remarrying so fast after mom died and because he seemed to be overly concerned about sex.. Her husband is a little beta, does not say much but will disagree with her every so often. The daughter is very nice, loyal attractive and not conceited. Dad is strict with her. Daughter has gravitated toward a friend who is abrasive and feministic though the daughter won’t tolerate too much of her BS.
My son is going out with the daughter who is very nice. Daughter likes him a lot. Hopes to marry him probably. Son is a good Alpha who does not say much.
Question: Any advice or concerns here?
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Talk your son through all of this [at least the big picture stuff]. Most importantly: What is your own ethnic & religious background [and your son’s mother’s background], and what is the other family’s ethnic & religious background?
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http://www.fredoneverything.net/Vassar.shtml
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So, true. As we say it’s the company and not the activity that matters. If all hte manjaws knew how little we care about their hiking and biking aspirations and how much more we care about holding, touching, licking, and f-cking the woman we like, they would stop posting their discovery channel pictures all over facbook, instagram, match, etc.
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Oh man I have a story to tell the crowd:
So this weekend I hung out with 2 girls I used to work with (one is a 6 and the other an 8) but they are mid 30s and I am I’m 20s (so older than me).
Anyways we ended up drinking a lot and going to one of their apartments and laid in the bed together hooked up with the 8 a little.
Here’s the thing. For some reason my drunk self “snapchatted” a “3some” selfie of me in the bed with them and the 8 in her bra/thong. Sent this to my current oneitis who is the 8 junior in college and her friend.
The fact that I even care proves that I have oneitis still I know.
BUT i want to see this girl before I go to med school. Is there any hope or wat for this to happen
It’s so hard to go game and fuck another young 8 b/c I am moving for med school in 3 or so months. What is a good way to handle this situation it is eating away to my soul…
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Dude – you were lying in bed next to one chick and you sent a picture of her to another chick? That is seriously f*cked up, and it might even be a FELONY – both at the state level and at the federal level [something like interstate wire transport of non-c0nsensual p0rn0graphy]. Seriously – grow the f*ck up, or else your a$$ is gonna end up in prison [either normal prison, or frigging psychiatric prison for the criminally insane]. Or shot dead by an LEO. Or shot dead by some girl’s father who is sick to death of you st@lking his poor daughter. And your crazy a$$ wants to become an MD ?!?!?
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Sup Playa… You’re sending the wrong message broski. Snap chat that mad 3 Series shizzle… Your BMW game is weakass shit playa. This is why she is rejecting you.
read about strong BMW game in my playa guide playa..
https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/1173808-elliot-rodger-manifesto.html
ER – rollin…
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You’re killin it bro.
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Nah Bro… you know what’s killin it playa? My text game is soooper tite! Like yo mams.
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Poor @Will… this episode will probably force you to move on.
Think about if what you sent will be perceived as HIGH VALUE to a hotter younger girl. A mid 30’s 6 and ah , ehh hemmm… 8. Let’s take the scoring at face value OK. To a 20 YO smokeshow in the prime of her flesh, these are ancient beasts.
So it was not only try hard, but also lowered your value to her.
To execute on preselection, the girls with you need to be at least as hot as the target girl, if not hotter. And it should be something that gets back to her from another girl, or social circle. Not a direct pic to her. Too much investment.
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TLDR – guys playing at home, going older and uglier is not going to work… (and going older is going uglier – apples to apples)…
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@sentient
If I do meet up with her and talk to her, is there anything i can do or say to ease my mind from this all. Not for her, but for my peace of mind ha. Just tell her the truth about some things or something? I realize getting another girl is the solution, but that will be difficult for me right now for various reasons.
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“meeting” her, i.e. stalking is another bad play here. You are going full Lloyd Dobler… You make lots of excuses why you can’t hook up with another hot young girl, tonight, this weekend etc. because you are maybe going to med school in THREE MONTHS? WTF? Three months.
Go out, meet a new hot young girl and spend time with her. and move on. This is the prescription.
Don’t do this
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I’m not going to be like that ^ though.
in the time that I was seeing her, her sorority friends were probably in her ear saying “he’s a jerk…you can do better….he’s only trying to get poon…” Etc.
Now I just want to simply go to a park/walk with her and see her before I leave across the country and maybe mention that I’ve been hurt really bad in the past so I’ve developed a thick skin against commitment.
That way at least her and her sorority house won’t think I’m some sex addict weirdo…
I just want to get peace of mind. I’ve hooked up with other girls but I haven’t developed an emotional connection with any so that is why my oneitis is still evident.
I wouldn’t beg like a beta-boy to ‘take me back’. I would tell her what is going on with my career/life and explain to her some things.
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“she is not a typical slut. ”
Pfffft.
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@sentient, one bro I talked to about it who’s pretty alpha thinks I should just tell her how I feel
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And @Sentient
What is your point with this while Lou dobbler video and analogy thing
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your subconscious did you a favor Re: your oneitis and burned her down.
people’s psychology is funny eh?
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What do you mean? And I wouldn’t be like Lloyd dobler…. I would simply go for a walk or go to a park with her and explain things. not to get her back. Her friends were probably saying “he’s a jerk…you can do better…he’s fuckig weird….he only wants sex…” Etc. b/c we fucked a lot and cuddled a lot and she is not a typical slut. Her parents are very conservative (she has a curfew still when she lives at home).
I would just want to explain to her that I’ve been hurt in the past bad so I’ve developed a think skin against commitment. You know so her and her sorority won’t think I’m so weird.
I’m not trying to get her back. I want to see her before I leave. I’m the one going across the country.
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not Lloyd Dobbler. He’s Mark “Rat” Ratner from Fast Times at Ridgemont High.
Enjoy your nice walk in the park romance. You’ll be forever labeled a creepy beta nice guy for your efforts.
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@Will – damn man. You have asked probably 10 times and the board has told you 10 times move on and leave it. So either nut up lil fella and execute on your plan, or stop whining about wanting to do it.
But it makes absolutely no sense how this:
“Her friends were probably saying “he’s a jerk…you can do better…he’s fuckig weird….he only wants sex…”
is at all mitigated by this:
“my drunk self “snapchatted” a “3some” selfie of me in the bed with them and the 8 in her bra/thong. Sent this to my current oneitis who is the 8 junior in college and her friend.”
Nor how you now going and telling her you have been “hurt” in the past will change anything. And the BS that you don’t want her back – LOL. Sure.
You don’t realize this is a game you cannot win. You are already lowering your value so much that if she could get over her growing disgust and regret and take you back, she will ALWAYS know she has the hand in the relationship. So it will never be what you want. Get that? even by “winning her back” you are going to lose.
The only way to get ever get back with an ex is she comes back to you, with fervor.
For the casual reader – so this is how alpha frat boys are doing it these days? Will what do your bros think of your plans with this girl?
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watch and have a cry
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will
this is the non-sugar coated version, so skip if you don’t want a slap upside yo head…lol…
i’ve bumped into your saga a couple of times now, and Sentient and everybody else has given you really good advice = move on…BUT you don’t seem to be able to do that. that’s telling me that you are still stuck in the feminine imperative…if you haven’t yet, go to Rational Male and read, read, read…and believe that shit…bc it’s in line with reality…lol…
you don’t seem to be aspergery (i recognize the tells…lol) but just really blue pill beta…so here’s some help…you seem to need to understand whats going on, so here’s a breakdown…
“So this weekend I hung out with 2 girls I used to work with (one is a 6 and the other an 8) but they are mid 30s and I am I’m 20s (so older than me).
Anyways we ended up drinking a lot and going to one of their apartments and laid in the bed together hooked up with the 8 a little.”
this is good, actually…except that it seems like you were only doing it to ‘get back’ at/prove your worth to your crush, since you even thought about her in situ…
“Here’s the thing. For some reason my drunk self “snapchatted” a “3some” selfie of me in the bed with them and the 8 in her bra/thong. Sent this to my current oneitis who is the 8 junior in college and her friend.”
this wouldn’t even hurt you if your crush wasn’t your ‘crush’…lol…and you were just doing this for self-amusement…but she knows exactly WHY you sent this…you are still BEGGING her to take you back…yes, that’s what this is in girl talk (subcomms)…and you were trying to prove your worth to her…
“The fact that I even care proves that I have oneitis still I know.”
well, at least you have that going for you…which is nice…
“BUT i want to see this girl before I go to med school. Is there any hope or wat for this to happen”
no…no hope at all…unless you want to have a no contact order following you into med school…but what you expected from the peanut gallery here is some form of ‘you go, girl…love conquers all’…and that we would FINALLY give you the magic red pill words to say to turn this crush around and get her approval for you…BUT there aren’t any magic words for this situ…
“It’s so hard to go game and fuck another young 8 b/c I am moving for med school in 3 or so months. What is a good way to handle this situation it is eating away to my soul…”
i completely understand…i’ve been in the same situ (back in college)…what you are doing is seeking her approval = straight up feminine imperative…’if ONLY i could talk to her, she would approve of me…and everything would be right in my world…’ but the thing is, seeking her approval is the thing that she doesn’t like about you…you see the dilemma that you’re in…it sucks, but the ONLY way to win is to not play…
it’s not that hard to go and game another girl. just walk into the campus commons, spot a girl you think is cute (not your crush…lol…that’s too stalkerish…) and go over, look into her eyes, smirk a little and say “you look like you’re in the engineering program. what’s your best subject?” then just talk to her for just a little then eject…’hey, i’ve got to go. see you around…” then, do that a couple dozen times…with different girls…lol…
yes, it’s socially retarded, but you need the reference experiences of approaching/opening girls with NO pressure on outcome…your attitude that you need to fuck if you even open a girl is limiting you = outcome dependence…
“If I do meet up with her and talk to her, is there anything i can do or say to ease my mind from this all.”
no…you can’t quit smoking by just smoking a little…lol…
“Not for her, but for my peace of mind ha. Just tell her the truth about some things or something?”
this is you seeking her approval…which is you BEGGING her to take you back in girl talk/subcomms…
“I realize getting another girl is the solution, but that will be difficult for me right now for various reasons.”
your outcome dependence doesn’t stop when you get shot down…lol…you need to work on you FIRST. oneitis is the idea that you are not good enough to deserve this girl and you are seeking her approval, which you won’t/can’t get this side of her hitting the wall…and then it’s not really ‘approval’ as much as it would be her settling for you as a provider…
“I’m not going to be like that ^ though.”
no boom box or trench coat , eh?…try goodwill…lol…
“in the time that I was seeing her, her sorority friends were probably in her ear saying “he’s a jerk…you can do better….he’s only trying to get poon…” Etc.”
maybe, but if she saw you as alpha stud, she wouldn’t listen to what her friends were saying…her hamster would spin, spin, spin to make her seeing you ok…
“Now I just want to simply go to a park/walk with her and see her before I leave across the country and maybe mention that I’ve been hurt really bad in the past so I’ve developed a thick skin against commitment.”
this is you seeking her approval…still…as i mentioned before, this is you BEGGING her to take you back/give you another chance in girl language…
“That way at least her and her sorority house won’t think I’m some sex addict weirdo…”
this is you seeking approval from your crush and the other girls = feminine imperative…they don’t think of you in a sexual way at all. they only think of you as a beta…if they think about you at all, which they probably don’t…
“I just want to get peace of mind.”
you aren’t going to get that from a girl…not even this girl/crush…
“I’ve hooked up with other girls but I haven’t developed an emotional connection with any so that is why my oneitis is still evident.”
no, your oneitis is still evident bc you don’t really believe that you deserved your crush (bc she’s NAWALT), but that you ‘had a shot’ with her…and for some ‘unexplainable reason it didn’t work out bc you did something/didn’t do something/the stars didn’t align/the coffee was cold/whatever stupid reason you can think of…
“I wouldn’t beg like a beta-boy to ‘take me back’. ”
you’ve been telling ME you are going to BEG her to take you back (in girl talk) and i’m not even a girl, so she’s going to pick up on this way faster than i did…lol…
“I would tell her what is going on with my career/life and explain to her some things.”
why do you care what she thinks or that she ‘understands’ about your situ…serious question…answer that and you will be staring into the depths of the feminine imperative…if you answer that honestly, you will notice that it’s some variation on ‘i will work hard and become successful, so that when you are ready, i will be there for you…’ = beta provider attitude…
“What do you mean? And I wouldn’t be like Lloyd doubler….”
lol…goodwill really might have that trench coat and boom box…
“I would simply go for a walk or go to a park with her and explain things. not to get her back.”
= begging her to take you back…see above… but in the future as a ‘settling’ option…
“Her friends were probably saying “he’s a jerk…you can do better…he’s fuckig weird….he only wants sex…” Etc. b/c we fucked a lot and cuddled a lot and she is not a typical slut.”
the friends weren’t saying this…her hindbrain/hamster was…and she is AWALT…lol…you can’t change that. it’s just basic biology…
“Her parents are very conservative (she has a curfew still when she lives at home).”
doesn’t matter to her biology…and if she was living in the sorority house…she didn’t have a curfew…lol…
“I would just want to explain to her that I’ve been hurt in the past bad so I’ve developed a think skin against commitment. You know so her and her sorority won’t think I’m so weird.”
again, ask yourself WHY is this so important to you…also, this is wishful thinking on your part (ask me how i know…lol)…you’re trying to spin a bad situ back into your favor. but it can’t work…literally CAN. NOT. WORK. the way you envision it…it’s biologically IMPOSSIBLE…
“I’m not trying to get her back.”
lol…maybe not now…but post-wall you’ll be expecting ‘a shot’ with her…
“I want to see her before I leave. I’m the one going across the country.”
here’s a better application of your time/energy before you leave (but you won’t take it bc it puts YOU first)…set up a tinder/ok cupid/ etc account for your new city/destination…and start gaming girls on there…you know, girls that will actually be available at your destination…
you are like a LOT of other guys that get a taste of the red pill. you’ve held it in your mouth long enough to get a sense that swallowing is the right thing to do, but it’s scary as hell bc you know what’s on the other side and it really is bitter reality…and that maybe you can have it both ways…just enough red pill reality to give you enough extra insight to maintain/experience a positive blue pill life with that one special snowflake/unicorn…but it doesn’t work that way…
good luck!
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I agree with everything you’re saying, but here’s the thing:
Me and this girl were fucking on and off for like 10 months. Great sex. And she’s asked me for commitment before I just avoided the question/games around it. So keep the history with her in mind
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OT – Thoughtcrime has arrived.
Cabdriver fined $15,000 for telling two lesbians to stop kissing in his cab.
http://news.yahoo.com/cabbie-ordered-pay-15-000-telling-women-quit-170859908.html
This “non-discrimination” stuff sounds all peachy at first. Then you realize it’s used to criminalize thoughts and words. Orwellian.
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Thought about posting that one yesterday – “Some Fat Guy in L.A.” nailed it over at Free Republic – “HOMOS TRUMP MUZZIES”. http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3278265/posts#22
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@ HABD
“That” woman found me, lol. Married dancing buddy (MDB). Someone (prob a woman) must have ratted me out. She brought her husband to the intermediate class and he quit after a few minutes. Didn’t rotate–was exclusive to MDB. When MDB rotated to me, she apologized for him sitting out as not having the experience that I and others had (upqual’ed me and DQ’d him). MDB also said that she liked my beard–only woman last night to do so. I led her through some interesting patterns ad hoc. She played with her hair when we were about to dance. Fakk me, I looked at her face. Oxytocin addiction is linked to looking at the trigger face. P It was getting so I hardly thought about her until last night.
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@theasdgamer
welcome to the club…lol…
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wow…now the stack is grabbing posts back off the page after they’ve been posted. i lost one higher up to will = now in mod…lol…
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HABD, it’s reeeally frustrating to be in bondage to an addiction and that the woman on the other end doesn’t want to let you go–just wants to string you along giving the least attention. It’s hard to just not play when I’m around her and she’s deliberately standing in my field of vision, messing with her hair.
Figuring out her strategy–she brings hubby along for a time or two til he gets bored and quits coming, then she has plausible deniability for going to a dance lesson that night every week. Maybe she’s chasing….
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@theasdgamer
ya, she’s chasing…you could let her catch you…lol…or…
you could always start to ‘chase’ her…lol…you know, beta-style…game can be used to ‘deescalate’ too…
‘you’re soooo pretty. you are the most beautiful woman i’ve ever had at my lessons. i can’t believe you even like me’…
‘you’re awesome’…
‘thank you for liking me, and being nice to me’…
‘i can’t wait to see you at the next lesson. would it be alright if i called you to let you know when it is’…
‘here, i bought you a flower. is there anything i can do for you, right now’…
and don’t forget to supplicate to the husband, too…
‘i wish i were [her husband]. he’s sooo lucky to have you…’
lol…that should work in about a week and a half…plus it’s good material for your book…
good luck!
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Thx for feedback.
Ya, only problem is that I might slip into a slow, low speech pattern and laser her while I’m saying the beta 5h1t. It’s pretty automatic for me. Besides, her attraction seems feral and it would probably outlast any betaizing I attempted. She’s pretty sharp and would likely suspect a rat and just chase that much harder. Besides, I probably couldn’t help laughing when I said that 5h1t. I once commented on how amazing the technology is that Lady Clairol uses and she grabbed that as a compliment about her hair. Didn’t slow her down one bit. She chased harder.
1. What would she likely do if I admitted hiding out from her? I bet she’d continue to chase, but try to be more subtle. What would she do if I told her that I hated being dance-bonded to her and that it really pisses me off that I feel trapped and can’t act naturally around her? That might scare her off at first, then she might relapse, doncha think?
2. She seems to be in total control of her supplicating husband. What would she do if I said to her, “Your [your husband] is so whipped. I bet I could fakk you on your sofa while he’s in the bedroom masturbating over porn.”
3. I expect that MDB pursued her husband 7 years ago for BB. Got him hooked on sex, then threatened to cut him off 3 years ago unless he married her. And now he’s on a low-maintenance diet. Thoughts?
4. Oh, MDB commented again on FB about looking forward to being at the dance venue. What would she say if I said that I could see a lot of her cards? Does she suspect that I realize that she’s chasing? If I said, “If we got it on, it would be wild&crazy. But I’m gun-shy ever since I was almost shot by an estranged husband,” What might be her response? More chasing, I expect. Maybe reassurance that she’s careful.
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@theasdgamer
if she’s as ‘feral’ as you say she is, your only other option (other than the usual way…lol) is to use her ASD against her…instead of trying to eliminate the ASD, you’ll have to ping it, so she’s stops chasing for fear of being labeled a slut…for that to happen, you’ll need some help from her friends…lol…
on 1 – she’d feel like she’s winning and chase harder…
on 2 – she’d feel like she’s winning and chase harder…
on 3 – standard beta bux situ = she feels like she’s winning and can chase harder…
on 4 – she’d feel like she’s winning and chase harder…
sounds like you can’t lose…lol…
i would say to just enjoy the attention, but there is obviously some part of you that is responding to her sexuality…and she knows it…lol…if she was 100 pounds fatter, would your oxy bonding still be a problem?…lol…
sooo, you are in a position to push the envelope…faaking her would be easy, but if you’re not comfortable doing that, you shouldn’t…
however, you can use this situ to try other stuff…like it’s a reality video game…lol…(and will be a great addition to your book…figure out where you need some material for the book and use your experience with her to fill in – this is basically a chance to practice modeling her behavior… without a sexual reward for her…just use attention/no attention for reward/punishment and see what happens)
start telling her to do stuff – buy you a drink, dance with that guy over there (start with some normal guys, then ramp down…lol), tell her where you are going to dance next and have her wear something really trampy…lol…yes, i know all that will spike her arousal…lol…but eventually she’ll get tired of chasing you and not getting you (you’ll probably get a confrontation about it) bc it will eventually ping her ASD…but you can actively manage the process instead of worrying about it…plus it will give her a chance to throw some shit tests at you, which you can then fail if you want to…lol…
good luck!
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@ HABD
Is MDB’s attraction feral? (Thanks for your question causing me to examine this.)
Items:
1. MDB displayed primate attraction cues–big eyes, followed by turning her head and smiling. Major, feral IOI.
2. MDB dances more with me than with anyone else by a factor of two. Frequently asks me to dance. Strong, overt IOI. I confronted her about dancing so much. She didn’t change. ASD? Hah, none with me.
3. MDB plays with her hair when she’s around me. A lot. Strong, overt IOI.
4. MDB instigated dance-bonding with me. Major chasing. I confronted her about it. Chasing never stopped.
5. MDB isolated with me…twice. Wanted a third, but I didn’t go along with it. Indication that she is DTF.
6. MDB responds quickly to my few texts. Compliance.
7. MDB posts on FB when she will be at a venue we both used to dance at. Doesn’t do that for other venues and didn’t do that before I stopped going. Instigation for meetup.
8. MDB comments about where she will be dancing where I don’t normally go and mentions when her husband wasn’t there. Instigation for another meetup.
9. MDB showed up at a dance lesson, which is unusual for her. Chasing.
10. MDB has been chasing for about a year. Long-term, feral attraction. She is very strong-willed as well and goes for what she wants.
MDB is doing what an older woman needs to do if she wants to compete with younger women. Maybe instigate stronger for more isolation. Maybe build more rapport. I think that men want rapport and women need trust.
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@ HABD
there is obviously some part of you that is responding to her sexuality
Ya think? lolz Her feral attraction pings me strongly. She isn’t unattractive–petite, rangy, hourglass figure, nice hair, good facial skull structure, no age spots, but she has deep crows feet when she smiles. Charming, warm smile. Almost never kinos–reserved. I wouldn’t normally notice her except for her charm, her feral attraction, and her asking me to dance so much. A high-T girl, no doubt, even at her age.
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You supposedly superior whites talk about date-rape and murder like it’s nothing, and then you have the nerve to criticize other races? You’re no better (and maybe worse), a bunch of self-righteous Antichrists.
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That is sexual assault, by the way, just groping some girl who isn’t even with you on a date. (I mistook it for date rape at first.) It has nothing to do with feminism.
It’s also really lame. With all that psychological “game” you guys talk about, you still think you need to stoop so low as to grab a girl who’s only barely conscious enough to stop you before you commit full-on rape.
You guys are sociopaths.
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The girl wasn’t pretending to be asleep. She was asleep, and your act of sexual assault woke her up. It’s amazing the number of excuses you sociopaths can come up with to justify date rape.
There is a medium between a feminist / white knight and a complete monster. It’s called being a gentleman. Real men are gentlemen.
You people are monsters, and it’s amazing you haven’t been arrested for outright rape yet.
[CH: you are a high level nuanced troll, an ugly woman, or an effete manlet. whichever you are, your entertainment value is dropping by the second.]
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Oh, CH, he’s a lemon–make some lemonade. Shirley there’s some way to poke fun at him.
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Yay, I got comment of the week runner up. Thank you. 😀 I missed it because I was on holiday and then, it was Easter.
Blessed belated Easter everyone.
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