Commenter irishsavant puzzles over a seeming contradiction at the core of Game philosophy.
I acknowledge that I haven’t taken a formal course in Heartisteology but surely there’s a blatant contradiction here. How do you square the primacy of a woman’s need to be desired with the dismissive treatment inherent in the Alpha game plan which seems to be the only way to win a woman’s heart?
The contradiction is neatly resolved once you accept the essential conflict of women’s romantic longing for the desirable man who will deny the prerogatives of his own desirability to embrace monogamous commitment to her.
Women need the desire of a man who is himself desired. This contingency is responsible for much of the contradictory nature of female intention that befuddles inexperienced men. Yes, a woman loves the idea of the man so struck by lust that he loses control around her, and yet she knows that a man’s lustful abandon means nothing if he surrenders himself to any willing provocation. His surrender means so much more when it’s wrested after a string of battlefield victories, and his self-pride is at its zenith.
This is the impetus for the female attraction to men who walk the line between strong sexual intent and cavalier dismissiveness. To solicit a woman, then push her away, then coyly reconsider, repeated as necessary and with emphasis at each step added or removed according to its reception, until the passionate coda, is the formula for winning seductions.
A woman wants to be desired and taken, but she also wants to feel like she, alone among women, is capable of inflaming that desire, and what better proof of her power to arouse and capacity to awaken well-fed beasts to the hunt than the beast’s initially cagey appraisal of her worth as prey?
Executive Summary: Male desire is a conflagration. Female desire is tinder waiting for a match.

[…] The Paradox Of Women’s Need To Be Desired And Dismissed […]
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I have always interpreted this (the women’s paradoxical desire for love and dismissiveness) as highlighting the fact that the woman KNOWS that the man need not need her. Meaning that she knows he is to move on, to find greener pastures etc. She wishes only to be an accessory in his life, possibly absent, if she hinders his development.
The way I see it, the woman does not want to actually be a hindrance or a dead weight to any man, hence why she attempts to cut him off via bitchiness etc. Because she knows he can do better. It is thus her altruistic instinct kicking in.
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I disagree. There’s nothing altruistic about sexual desire. Women “attempt to cut men off via bitchiness” either to test their ardor or (more often) to actually cut them off. The whole “you’re such a nice guy and you deserve so much better” thing is a pleasant fiction designed only to cushion both parties’ egos.
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“The whole “you’re such a nice guy and you deserve so much better” thing is a pleasant fiction”
that’s not pleasant at all. It’s actually the worst thing to hear if you know hamsterspeak. and if she’s talking about it she’s not stimulated in the seduction reptile part of her brain. actions are everything and she needs to stay in the moment. if she’s analyzing it’s already too late.
hamsterspeak is fascinating. case in point: “friend”. For a woman this has two opposite meanings.
1. Friend of the “friendzone” or social media “friend” or acquaintance she has no intention of ever banging. beta orbiters. ego boosters, etc. While friend is the common way to reference this position, I don’t often hear the woman actually say the word to others regarding a guy. It’s more implied. It’s more said by the guy as in “she’s my friend.” lol.
2. Friend of the “meatspace” or the good kind of “friend.” the one she’s banging and in love with but there is no official relationship yet. she can’t say boyfriend when she introduces you, so she says, “this is my friend so and so.” She wants the whole world to know that you two are “friends” and that she’s the woman at your side, regardless of official status.
she has no problem at all holding these two opposite definitions in her mind simultaneously. paradoxical yes, but easy enough to understand if you “throw away logic and accountability” and step into her world occasionally.
the more paradox the more fun in bed.
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“social media”… “meatspace”… REPORT: NEARLY A QUARTER OF ALL TEENS GO ONLINE “ALMOST CONSTANTLY” http://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/2015/04/14/report-nearly-a-quarter-of-all-teens-go-online-almost-constantly/
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A little post on windows.. TLDR – skip it, day game, nothing happens.
Grabbing the coffee. 5 empty seats at the counter. Take the seat next to a slender early 30’s blonde on her phone (body 7, yoga pants, tight shirt, slender, face 6, just kind of plain). Just chill and drink. She is talking to a GF, getting emotional about her divorce in progress. Hmmmmm. emotion is a great thing to play with. She starts getting more agitated and gets up and goes outside. I drink my coffee.
A little while later she comes in and takes her seat. I am looking out the window, not paying attention to her. she leans over and puts her hand on my shoulder and says “sorry you had to hear all that, I hope I didn’t ruin your morning”… Aha. There it is. Female to male kino. High emotional state, divorce proceedings. Lordy this is a tunnel sized window opening here. But pre red pill, I would have just curtly nodded to her and moved on with my day.
Here I put my arm around her right away and pull her in and give her a squeeze and tell her “yeah sounds like you are going through a rough patch, but things will get better”….with strong eye contact. Floodgates are open. Male authority and comfort are very powerful. She is fully turning toward me now and we discuss the many issues in her life. Punctuated by kino to and from each other. I’m mostly just hmmm hmmming but giving her solid laser eye and the occasional nugget of wisdom like “five years from now, you won’t remember how you are feeling today” and she is eating it up.
She explains how she just moved to this part of town, has a new apartment down the street and is just getting used to the area. Window. She is going back to school for her MBA, full time. Lot’s of free time window. She tries to play the game of “I was out at XXX bar recently and all these young college guys kept coming up to me. it was weird. I had to leave” which I interpret as some kind of jealousy routine. I laugh and neg her with “you know those frat guys are into cougars right?” and that settles her right down. She asks me a bunch of questions and we play that game a bit. Kino still going back and forth. Laser eye is working, she is getting really fidgety and a little flustered.
I get up get some water stand next to her hands on hip, full erect pose, keep nodding and lasering, my arm pressed next to her arm for a bit. The I make a motion to clear my place and she is like “i kept you too long. I really enjoyed meeting you. You made my day, gave me the strength I needed. I’m [name]”. I take her hand hold it for 30 seconds and introduce myself. She says “I hope I see you around here again” I just nod, then move and put my cup in the bin. Come back past her and open my arms and she comes right in and we hug. She is gripping me, pressing her head on my shoulder. I tell her this is the start of another great day and that I will see her around. Take care.
since this is in my pool, I won’t piss in it, but it’s there, set up for round 2 if I want. the thing is, keep aware. keep your mind open, spot windows. emotion is always sexual… you just need to find a way to play it.
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Awesome story. Very nicely played. Goes to the issue of open widows you just talked about recently.
What do you think made her pick you to approach? That kind of thing does not happen to me very often.
By the way was ready to play a little tonight at the hotel lobby bar. Unfortunatley a total sausage fest. Try again tomorrow.
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Nice.
In your pool. explain?
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@Reco – “What do you think made her pick you to approach? That kind of thing does not happen to me very often.”
That’s the thing, I set myself up by choosing the seat to begin with. She was the end of the counter, there were 5 empty counter seats in a row next to her but I chose the one right next to her instead of one in the middle or the opposite end of the counter. On purpose. If you have the opportunity, in a bar or in day game, go and sit right next to the girl. Then she will open you or you will open her. I would have opened her but she beat me to it. Also get the kino going at the first chance. Changes the dynamic right away. So instead of just smiling when she touched me, I pulled her in a half hug.
“By the way was ready to play a little tonight at the hotel lobby bar. Unfortunatley a total sausage fest.”
Yeah this happens. You can get better odds by choosing your hotel more strategically. Hotels that have something more going on are better, like the bar or lobby restaurant may in themselves be a bit of a scene, people other than those staying in the hotel hitting it as well. These are generally more upscale places or hipper kinds of chains like The Standard or a W. Also get better odds if your hotel is at the nexus of several other hotels, so you can cruise around a few lobbies quickly if yours is slow.
And I find 9PM is a good time, even as early as 8:30. Like in a straight up stand alone bar, you probably want to be later like 10PM but most singles don’t want to be alone in a bar that late, its too explicit a message. The hindbrain knows its up for some sex but the forebrain is still thinking “i’ll just grab a glass of wine and check some emails before going up to my room” and they just happen to put themselves in a position to have it “just happen” by sitting in a bar.
A lot of these women are married as well so they aren’t going to tell their hubby they went out to a bar bar and had a drink, but one at their hotel is no big deal. Buried in the bill as well, one charge for the whole stay etc.
@Putin “In your pool. explain?” – as I mentioned in a previous post to you, don’t piss in your pool, i.e. don’t get entangled close to home, in your city, neighborhood etc.
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So in your town. Do not want to bang because of potential aftermath issues.
Well there is always empire building and that one will be a good addition.
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@ Sentient:
“Here I put my arm around her right away and pull her in and give her a squeeze and tell her ‘yeah sounds like you are going through a rough patch, but things will get better…’
Ha. Such a sweetheart. That’s a good example of building comfort without emoting too much.
How would you have opened had she not started the conversation?
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@Sentient – good one.
I just have another similar one in mod about spotting open windows and using them – something I need to practice.
I’m trying to figure out this “emotion is sexual” business a bit more. How do you turn emotion sexual or into attraction? Something along the lines of responding to it with a strong male frame and letting the attraction develop out of that? But I haven’t thought it through fully…
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@Benson “How would you have opened had she not started the conversation?”
Could go one of three ways 1) based on her sub coms could have asked her “so – hows your day going?” or something to comment on the conversation but in a chill, half joking way. Would do this is she was sub comming more “open” if you know what I mean, and with my antennae already up to try and capitalize on the emotion, this would have been a good way to go to get right into it. Always better and easier to get rapport going talking about “something” that is important to the target – instant connection – and I am probably 15+ years older than this woman was, so I have lots of experience – so it’s an authentic interaction. This is basically what happened except she opened me.
or 2) if I had good energy I have had a lot of success just going into a story, using the girl with the “be the change” bag and the Santa Claus parent’s lying to me punch line (wrote about this before), so the basic would be just open her “so I was in here a few weeks ago and I was talking to this college girl, she had this bag that said “be the change you want to be in the world”… and just go with the whole routine. But you need the right energy to pull off something like this, punctuate it right with the pausing and all.
and 3) and most likely because its the easiest just a straight up simple indirect opener “mmm this coffee is really good today, what kind did you get” etc. One of a hundred basic nothing comments that get you talking with her. You can still jump into 1 or 2 from this. It’s simple reliable.
Don’t let great be the enemy of good and all – this isn’t a performance. Ramp up the convo from this with laser eye, kino, flirting, teasing etc. normal stuff.
@Culum Struan “I’m trying to figure out this “emotion is sexual” business a bit more. How do you turn emotion sexual or into attraction? ”
Emotion is already sexual, especially in women. Her largest sex organ is her brain, because it controls the release of all the chemicals and hormones she needs to get aroused. For guys we just need our eyes and our balls and we are good to go.
That is the point of all the ^_^_^_^ roller coaster story telling, spiking attraction, push pull etc. To get the circuit charged. Once its charged it needs an outlet, a resolution. Have you ever had make up sex or angry sex? Same deal but trust is already established so you move right to it. So here you are looking to sexualize the emotionally charged situation, which is easily done through kino. I could have gone more direct and would have in another location – pull in for the hug. Hold it. “mmmm you feel good” and a nibble on the ear, take her hand, let’s get some air. Leave with her.
Think about the state she is in – fear, anger and what resolves that? Comfort, affection, attention, affirmation…
Look into emotion and biochemistry. also if you have Sex God method, read the chapter on Emotion – the E in the DEVI sequence.
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Pragmatically, it aligns with the problem which I’ve been wondering about: Trying to categorize the kinds of girls who naturally want to chase versus the kinds of girls who naturally want to BE chasED, i.e. her responding to you being a Cl!t Tease versus you responding to her being a D!ck Tease. And then for applied Game Theory, questions such as “Can I cl!t tease a D!ck Tease?” Or, if you’re a girl, “Can I d!ck tease a Cl!t Tease?” At some point, if you want attraction to occur, then the positive end of the one magnet needs to be aligned with the negative end of the other magnet. Unless you can figure out how to reverse the polarity of a magnet.
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And it could be that some people are never going to be naturally attracted to one another, no matter how hard they try. Unless [at least] one of them is a psychopath who is capable of pretending to be something they are not, in which case the attraction isn’t natural – it’s entirely contrived and artificial.
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I guess reversing polarity of magnets and faking psychopathy gets us to Game Theory and the Dark Triad. Or else to professional gold-digging wh0res who know how to play wealthy men for fools.
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Could you be more concise, Zombie? Or at least stop answering yourself?
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CONCISE: I wouldn’t get involved [and have never personally gotten involved] with any chick who played games such as D!ck Teasery. Yeah, if you put enough sweat equity into it, your Cl!t-Tease-Fu would eventually overwhelm her D!ck-Tease-Fu [you are a man, after all], but at what cost? She’s still a D!ck Tease at heart [at least right up until you break her heart], and s/p marriage, I’d guess that she’d switch gears and become a ball-busting femc*nt Nurse Ratched. Personally, I’m big into searching for natural chemistry, where the very first time the two of you set eyes upon one another, you’re ready to rip off each other’s clothes.
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When she gets that hamster dopamine hit of “I’m the one, I’ve got him now, he loves me” her evolution-tuned subconscious is set at ease, believing that if she’s impregnated by him he won’t outright abandon her and her new burden.
The dismissal gamesmanship just reinforces that she’s got to try harder to win his love precisely because it’s less accessible (i.e. more valuable), and can be withdrawn at any time.
That’s why women love marriage. It’s a state-supported risk-mitigation strategy and indeed it has tamed many men, whether alpha or beta, and allowed women to skip the “try harder” part of a healthy ongoing romance.
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State-supported risk-mitigation strategy. That’s brilliantly put.
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So, in a word, women need to conquer, too. They need to conquer the man’s stoicism and indifference to provoke him to desire, and the harder it is to do that, the more satisfying the victory (and the waves of orgasm) for her.
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True, except that laid over top [or beneath] all of that is the fundamental premise which holds that sperm is cheap, whereas eggs [and especially l!ve b!rths n!ne months later] are the most precious thing of all. So is it her victory to have chased the man all the way into the bedroom? Or is it his victory for having lured her into exposing her eggs to his s33d? The egg theory says that most women ought to want to BE chasED [since their eggs are so precious], and since sperm is cheap, they shouldn’t be aroused at the thought of having to beg for sperm [much less chase it].
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So is it her victory to have chased the man all the way into the bedroom? Or is it his victory for having lured her into exposing her eggs to his s33d?
Both have (heh) scored.
He scored because he had enough self-confidence to not turn into a year-old Labrador retriever p33ing all over her shoes, but rather convinced her he was a cool cat.
She scored because, while sp3rm is cheap, the sp3rm of a cool cat is much, much more precious. Like the tears of an alpha versus those of a bitterbeta.
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> “the sp3rm of a cool cat is much, much more precious” Yep, talking about that below here.
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Either the word “e*g*g” or the word “s*p*e*r*m” caused by reply to be eaten.
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Probably the latter 😉
It’s become a real pain in the … lately
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AD, down below here, I’m talking about cheap Beta Provider s*p*e*r*m versus expensive Alpha Bad Boy s*p*e*r*m, vis-à-vis the chick’s logical capacity versus her hindbrain desires. Which works as long as we are a K-Selected people with plenty of broken-souled Betas to do the providing.
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@CH: Your marching orders for the next days are to build in a button to +1 an article! 🙂
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This paradox is not logical. That’s why it’s vital to understand game. It’s a kind of thinking three moves ahead. I’m better at this but at times I find it exhausting and then I realize I may be too outcome dependent and over-investing. Checks and balances.
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There is a logic to it, however it is a very circular kind of reasoning.
Male desire for women is mostly hard-coded. We would desire women even if women had no desire for us.
Female’s do not actually desire men, they desire sexual success for themselves. Women are somewhat instinctively in love with themselves (the women who do actually love a man have learned how to do it, or have a man who has always held frame). However, being an attractive man is entirely dependent on your independence. No woman wants a man she has to look after, that is entirely in conflict with her sexual success. In short, only males who cannot possibly be dependent on another can be valued.
Since female sexual success (love of self) depends on both being desired by others, and on the value of the people desiring them, the contradictions are set. How can you be desired be someone who is high value, when the conditions of value on those you wish to be lusted over include not needing you?
Women indeed have a pickle there.
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> “Women are somewhat instinctively in love with themselves (the women who do actually love a man have learned how to do it, or have a man who has always held frame).” Having a dominant culture which fills these girls’ heads with poison from the moment they are first dumped in front of a television set certainly doesn’t help matters here.
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> “the contradictions are set. How can you be desired be someone who is high value, when the conditions of value on those you wish to be lusted over include not needing you?” Again, we used to have a culture which tried to warn girls about these perils which they would face in life.
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How about a second part on the way men can best express their desire within the realm of push-pull after they meet women.
Our feminist media tells us respect and compliments are the way to go. They’re not, but a lot men grow up with this wrong assumption. A better method is to replace compliments with teasing and replace any direct mention of sex with innuendo (especially if she brings up sex, which is often Beta bait).
This throws into question how much you’re actually interested in the woman — you’re showing interest but also dismissing her. It creates both interest and mystery.
My media comment aside, some of us knew to do this naturally in high school, but it was beaten out of us by college feminist brownshirts and then the 21st Century’s edition of nuns, now called HR directors. Sometimes getting in touch with your inner teenager works.
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Don’t you mean hot-cold? Push-pull is for dealing with resistance. Hot-cold is for eliciting her to chase. Teasing and innuendo and such – is playful attention – Hot. Being aloof, ignoring and curious disappearances – cold.
She shouldn’t question whether you’re interested in her – but, that she’s not in control of it. Show no interest or lose interest too soon – and she’s a woman scorned. Hot-cold rewards intermittently. But, it does reward.
IMO, the best way to deploy hot-cold is to express interest up to the point you can craft a bespoke compliment – then go cold. She feels the pursuit – but, before she can congratulate herself – you appear to have lost interest.
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That brownshirts reference means you have not fully digested the red pill as you are parroting the Matrix speak that is spoon fed to us 24/7.
I will repeat it yet again that the German National Socialist movement of the 1930s was the biggest threat to the western world order and made the Matrix shit scared. That is why every day we are told about their ‘evilness’ so that we do not get any ideas.
The Germans knew what was coming and stood up and fought for their survival until the bitter end. You might not agree with every or indeed any blueprint they had but reading source material (not the modern Westernized versions) and it is a fascinating time in history.
Regarding inter-sexual dynamics, the Germans openly encouraged sexual relations from the age of 16 years. They knew when a woman’s most fertile age was and they believed that openly encouraging sexuality would reduce the effects of homosexuality.
Strong emphasis was placed on physical beauty. H-i-t-l-e-r says in ‘Mein Kampf’ that ‘let the fit bodies find each other’
H-i-m-m-l-e-r described prostitution as a necessary evil but he strongly believed in rewarding his warrior soldiers with multiple beautiful women and of course the Lebensborn project was touted where a fit & healthy SS officer was the perfect specimen to sire 3 or 4 young fertile beautiful women.
Nude sun bathing, the enjoyment of the sun, beer, carnivals, family day events, reduction in crime, safe modernized streets and the enjoyment of living with your brothers and sisters of the same breed.
Germans I know who lived through this time bravely say it was a wonderful time.
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It’s the very contradiction within their hearts that women find so intoxicating. They can’t help but fall in love with the emotional rush that comes with being pulled in both directions by a dominant man. The push-pull aspect of seduction is simply the man doing what they’re feeling emotionally, except this time it’s coming from someone not themselves.
Women are crazy and they love it. What they love just as much is a man taking that and using it against them. It’s all about the feelings.
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Well said. This is the zone to be in. Unplug your logic circuits.
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“Women are crazy and they love it. What they love just as much is a man taking that and using it against them. It’s all about the feelings.”
It’s funny because it’s true. I was fucking with my exes head in so many ways that she figured out eventually, but she still couldn’t stop herself from enjoying my machinations. The problem is that women suck at self-control so even when they realize men aren’t really good for them, they still can’t stop themselves.
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Sounds like the plot of every bodice ripper novel.
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CH,
This is post worthy.
A UK Guy moved to USA, learns pick up, has a harem with kid 7 no marriage —
“‘I started reading about pick-up artists and how you can use psychology to make yourself more attractive.
‘I would practice by standing in Leicester Square at lunchtime and after work, trying to get girls’ phone numbers as they walked past.
‘In no time, I was sleeping with amazing women I could only have dreamed of back at school.’
Adam became so knowledgeable at seducing girls that he started a career as a dating coach – running the popular YouTube channel AFCAdamLondon.
Adam adds: ‘After being a nerdy loner all my life, I was suddenly leading this Hugh Hefner lifestyle.
‘It felt like I could sleep with any beautiful woman that I wanted. At one point, I was dating fourteen girls at the same time – it was crazy!’”
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-3036709/Man-TWO-live-girlfriends-share-child-rearing-date-nights-kingsize-bed-wants-woman-in.html
Note the age of his current harem.
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Does it really count as an Alpha with a harem? If you read the entire article, his GFs sleep with other men, with his full support. The older child is not his but the product of one GFs previous relationship. It seems more like polyamory with a better looking cast of characters than you normally see.
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Getting out of a possible “divorce rape” without a mark is alpha.
Getting two 25-26 year-old women to replace the wife and have one bear your child, while keeping the 2nd, is alpha.
All else is squid ink.
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So he snags a single mom and is raising some other guy’s kid. That’s Alpha?
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kuchak,
There are none so blind as those who don’t wish to see.
Go back and look at the family picture of the mother of the infant shown in the article.
She is in hot “7” shape less than eight weeks after birth of her second child.
That is a woman working hard to keep her man, despite being a “single mother with child from previous relationship.”
That level of physical effort on her part is pure PUA “applied dread” driven.
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Will read the article later but just want to mention that a lot of AFCAdam’s old stuff is solid regardless of whatever weird arrangement (and marketing of that arrangement ’cause he’s always self-promoting) he’s doing now lol
His personal claim to fame was that he was a guy who combined pickup with working as a club promoter so he was running huge entourage game where he’d walk into the club with like 15+ girls all dressed the same way to match his outfit etc. and would get his buddies to do the same so they’d walk in with more social proof than most guys have at their own birthday party. Dude is a huge effeminate nerd but he was surrounded by pussy for a handful of years.
I consider the club promoter part as kind of cheating but just because you have connections doesn’t mean you have to LEAD with “Hey, do you girls want to get into a club for free tonight?” and try to bribe them so the only reason they’re out with you is the free shit, you can still open and run normal game and legit attract them and then just also happen to drop a “say my name at the door, bring your girlfriends” and let them assume you’re just a connected social guy. Most of Adam’s in-field stuff I’ve seen is just him being a cool social guy on the street, he’s not dropping “I’ll get you a free bottle babe, ask for Adam at the door” shit to get numbers like most promoters do.
He covers some stuff on social circle and networking/entourage subjects that guys who aren’t managing huge groups of girls like that don’t cover so it’s worth looking into his stuff if you’re in college or just landed in a new city and want to start building social circles of hot girls. Take what you can use and discard the rest like Bruce Lee.
It’s really easy to critique these guys’ personal lives like “look, see even with their TRICKS they ended up LIKE THIS!! It’s because he’s actually a beta under all the pretending alpha-ness so nyah nyah PUA is a scam!” lol ’cause quite frankly a lot of PUAs are going to end up all fucked up in the end as we see how their stories turn out, just like a lot of bodybuilders are going to be all fucked up when their steroid abuse catches up to them, or a lot of guys who suddenly come into shitloads of money will end up overdosing on coke snorted off hookers or end up poor again, or boxers are going to be fucked up from taking hits to the head. Hell, I’m taking my own chances in my own long-term life plan that may or may not pan out.
But regardless of the paths they take in their personal lives, the information they teach works…just be smarter than they were about the long-term execution of it and build off it. If you’re a bodybuilder ease up on the roids, if you get rich learn how to manage your money, get out of boxing before the brain damage kicks in or stick to safe sparring etc. Pickup is a tool, use it however you want. The original guys are like kids in a candy store ’cause they’re the ones who were like “holy shit we’ve all gained superpowers” like they won the lottery, but the next generation of dudes can learn from their later-life mistakes.
This is all the more reason why Red Pill and Manosphere guys shouldn’t be ignoring the old PUA teaching like Mystery Method etc. They’re missing a lot of information that they could be using to evolve and enhance their own paths because there’s so much overlap and I keep seeing guys on TRP going “guess what I just discovered!!” all excited and it’s like ya that was already discovered and written about on Page 43 of Mystery Method you could’ve saved yourself some learning curve if you just read the old shit.
How far you take it or what you do with it is up to you, if you teach me to shoot a gun and then you go on a killing spree that doesn’t mean learning to shoot guns makes you go on killing sprees, I can use that skill for a completely different purpose. Someone knee-deep in pickup can end up alone with a gun in their mouth on a cocaine binge in the bathroom of a nightclub at 45 surrounded by shitty party girls or they can use the same skillset to build a solid social circle of quality successful buddies and quality girls who have their shit together while they work on their health/wealth etc.
TRP and parts of the Manosphere love to shit on PUAs but RSDTyler has probably the healthiest overall TRP lifestyle of the old guard. Dude keeps in shape exercising daily, makes bank off his own independent business he started from the ground up, doesn’t drink, doesn’t smoke or do drugs, eats crazy healthy downs vitamins and shit daily, travels a ton, teaches other men to better themselves, has 2 cute kids with a baby mama who’s stuck around through the whole thing and he’s still off pulling 3-somes and trying for 3-way makeouts during sober daygame.
Ya his awkwardness still comes through ’cause he started out as a hardcase and probably has some aspergers but overall he’s setting a pretty solid bar considering all that and considering the disadvantage of his looks lol Like there’s nothing in his lifestyle that a TRP person shouldn’t want to achieve for himself. It’s silly to throw away all that knowledge/experience just because “oh that PUA stuff is just negs and fuzzy hats don’t read that shit, just lift and make money and don’t be a pussy and the bitches will sense how alpha you are bro”.
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I recall the plot of this college fraternity caper movie where upperclassmen had compiled a manual of sex techniques and stashed it in the library – under ‘Learn Chinese Cooking’ or some such title. After studying it – freshman became sex gods … Now, everything needed to develop a skill set, build a solid social circle of and attract quality girls is out on youtube.
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Gold Jerry! GOLD!
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my husband’s first ever comment on my appearance was ‘you’re kind of cute’ and on our first date he also made fun of the jeans i was wearing… lol
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Here’s something interesting for you guys:
A lesbian “invents” a dildo (“semenette”) that looks and functions like a dick with the explicit means to impregnate a female without intercourse. Therefore a reservoir with the jizz of your choice is attached to it.
The inventor states that it was her idea as she and her, well, partner wanted to “start a family”. But, she explains, it is not only created for lesbian couples but also if the man suffers from ED.
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Wait, ED, you ask? How did he obtain the precious fluid, if he can’t get it up?
So my guess is this:
It’s first and foremost created for lesbian couples. I advise any sane man to never donate jizz. If you do, prepare to pay child support later.
Second, always flush used wrappers, take them with you or mix them with Po-210…
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I advise any sane man to never donate jizz.
Sperm banks should all be shut down.
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Have some tabasco sauce handy and put that in the used condom before you discard it. That way, if you just screwed a crazy woman who tries to squeeze your seed out of the condom and into her, you’ll know about it from her screams. h/t Leykis 101
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Nah, capsaicin won’t kill the cells, and that’s all I want.
I might invent some spermicide fluid, which contains capsaicin as well, so that you won’t ingest it, you know, just for your safety hehe.
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Wait, ED, you ask? How did he obtain the precious jizz, if he can’t get it up?
So my guess is this:
It’s first and foremost created for lesbian couples. I advise any sane man to never donate sperm. If you do, prepare to pay child support later.
Second, always flush used wrappers, take them with you or mix the content with Polonium.
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The way I look at Female attraction is to realize that women have two minds.
They have the Unconscious Limbic mind.
And they have the Conscious Logical mind.
Game is nothing more than a series of male behaviors that route around the Conscious and directly simulate the Unconscious. If you think about it this way you realize that all the “don’t pay attention to what women say (consciously) pay attention to what they do (unconsciously)” advice is not confusing at all.
Take a Game behavior like aloofness or amused mastery. You see a behavior that logically “should” be repellant to a female. But, in Game field tested manner the exact opposite is true. This is logically confusing to men because men are 99 percent logical in our daily lives. A woman will sometimes state the very illogical “there was just something about him” hind brain statement while every gal just nods knowingly. They nod knowingly because every woman even moderately attractive has had an Alpha moment when their emotional Unconscious Limbic hind brain has obliterated all conscious thought. A man only get this way with a really hot bad girl who causes lust making him temporarily forget the real hazards of making out with a Pro Defensive Lineman’s date (Ahem). Women LIVE in the Unconscious when it comes to mating.
I think the Limbic Unconscious is like a neural net laid down at the beginning. The limbic minds purpose is really specialized it’s designed to find the extra ordinary. All behaviors that are not normal (with normal being defined as beta or within 2 standard deviations courting behavior) wake the Limbic up.
Game in this context is simply to keep the Female Limbic engaged and the Female Logical in second place. Every male behavior is analyzed with a girls past experience dictating if the guys behavior is normal beta just like 2 standard deviation 95% OR if it’s the rare 5% alpha.
Oh and add in that during the month the Limbic mind may be stronger a certain times of the ovulatory cycle. AND add in age with 22 being the age of peak fertility.
Now we have a comprehensive understanding of female mating choices. No wonder men go for younger women. It’s not the logical mind that has become jaded (although that’s the sassy shit testing mind-part that is speaking to you). It’s the LIMBIC part that has had all the alpha / not so alpha men in her past programing her to be ever more discerning for that precious Alpha mate.
This is why we push-pull as men. We DO IT because so few men have done it in ANY women’s past.
And once the limbic is fully engaged we can then caveman and demonstrate our desire for a woman.
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Well, there’s also the fundamental maxim: S*p*e*r*m is cheap, whereas E*g*g*s are precious. Her logical brain settles for cheap [Beta provider] s*p*e*r*m, but her limbic brain lusts for expensive [Alpha bad boy] s*p*e*r*m. On the other hand, as our society disintegrates into more of an R-Selected cesspool, Bad Boy s*p*e*r*m will become much more common, and so women’s limbic brains will have to adapt to lusting for gentlemanly well-mannered well-cultured Provider s*p*e*r*m.
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Of course the other question is whether Evil Psychiatry Inc and the Gramsci Project have intentionally poisoned the well so as to limit the amount of expensive Alpha bad boy s*p*e*r*m, and to maximize the amount of cheap
Beta provider s*p*e*r*m.
http://www.amazon.com/dp/1451644183/
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We’re also at a weird nexus in the culture, as we make this artificially-enforced transition from K-Selection to R-Selection. I know a ton of libtarded white chicks who fell for the cultural poisoning [Joostream media constantly promoting the lie of the K-Selected Nog rocket surgeon] and who are now single mothers raising half-human/half-chimpanzee abominations, and cursing the child’s long-gone R-Selected Nog father. And conversely, I feel like there is still enough of an embedded cultural memory of a K-Selected society that many chicks THINK they are marrying a strong & silent Alpha [John Wayne, Cary Grant, Gary Cooper], only to realize after a few years of marriage that they actually married a weak & silent Beta [Steve Carell]. I feel like I meet so many white chicks now who are dying inside because they feel trapped in a marriage with a guy who disgusts them.
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and who are now single mothers raising half-human/half-chimpanzee abominations, and cursing the child’s long-gone R-Selected Nog father.
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Until the child grows up to become president of the United States.
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T-h-w-a-c-k is really making a meal of this Obama thing… as if it wasn’t the exception to prove the rule.
You’d do better using Derek Jeter as your Please Miscegenate mischling poster child.
(((shakin’ mah haid)))
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That sword cuts both ways… and like some guy sitting near a pond once said, most men lead lives of quiet desperation.
But a man can find ways to make his life palatable, introspective being that he be… through work, hobbies, and of course, other gals. 😉
A man understands that his destiny and so-called happiness… whatever that is… had to stem from within before it manifests itself on the outside.
Women nowadays would rather wallow in their mostly self-imposed misery than find sliver linings upon which to hitch their wagon, if I may mix a metaphor.
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Actually it’s a really good metaphor – the abandoned White Mother mirrored in the now-abandoned White Nation. Even YKW are scratching their heads and asking “WTF just happened?” Especially as Soebarkah and Valerie Jarrett conspire to give the Persians the means by which to destroy both Tel Av!v and JooYawkCity. Pretty much exactly what you’d expect from the son of a strongly R-Selected wife-beating alcoholic – the very same son whose white grandmother so disgusted him that he threw her under the bus as she lay dying of cancer. R-Selected Dark Triad Ant!-C!vilizational N!h!lism FTW.
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Thats right;
in yo face nigga, in yo face!
bahhhhaahhhaahhhaaa…
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Obama is not exactly the exception that proves the rule. Like his wife, though to a lesser degree, he was promoted beyond his ability until he garnered enough attention from TPTB for them to realize he was the perfect plant for the job.
Became POTUS in a similar way to how Kagan got on the SCOTUS:
http://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/2015/04/does-jewishness-matter/
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He’s not the exception?
Well, then… who’s the next mischling in line for that (cough) hallowed office?
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Another way of looking at it; or, if you prefer, a different exec summary:
Women need to be desired, but if you show that you desire them, then their need is satisfied. Women need only work on the men who don’t show desire up front.
Of course if a woman works at it and doesn’t get any male desire in return, then she’ll eventually give up, hence the need for push-pull.
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Of course if a woman works at it and doesn’t get any male desire in return, then she’ll eventually give up, hence the need for push-pull.
this is true. i worry sometimes about the guys on here getting the message that all asshole all the time is the answer. and when you hear all these guys talking about getting bangs but not being able to maintain LTRs with anyone halfway decent. it makes me think they aren’t getting that it’s all about balance and push pull like you said.
when i was first trying to shift gears into red pill territory, i went way overboard being an ass and acting like i didn’t care because i didn’t want to slip into my old beta habits. but you know how that ended up? i ended up losing some girls who would have probably stuck around if i had balanced things out a lot better. going too far one way or the other and you end up losing the girl. gotta have balance.
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Desire unreciprocated is creepy.
desire masked in ambiguouity piques curiousity.
Desire masked in ambiguouity dismissed soaks panties.
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your presumption you are allowed to judge desire is more creepy, spinster bitch. Fuck off and die after you are full from your cads and cats diet.
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In romantic fiction targeted towards women (which is most romantic fiction), the male love interest is often established to be high value very quickly and without much real exposition (and typically without explicitly acknowledging this process). This can be achieved in a variety of ways, but it’s sufficient to say that it’s much simpler than in real life. The bulk of the story then focuses on the female attracting and securing the male love interest.
A good example of this is the twilight series. The male love interests are assumed to be of high value and thus they are able to ridiculous and self deprecating things and still mostly maintain the attraction of the female love interest. Your mileage may vary.
Herein we see the solipsistic nature of females and why they can’t really explain how men should attract women. They completely skip over the first step to courtship, which is that the man much establish his own value. Men that don’t establish their own value are effectively invisible to women and thus women completely don’t understand how they judge male value. It’s subconscious.
Establishing value is not the only step that a man must take in courtship, but without it any other step is useless.
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Women have never been able to explain anything. No woman alive can explain the female orgasm! Scientists had to figure out that the prepubescent boy can achieve female types of orgasm without refractory period because their balls are not ready yet. A male has to explain the female for the world to know. Figures.
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A recent case in Divorce Court concerning the Wu-Tang Clan illustrates these principles:
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What a fucking farce this country is.
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the worst of american women all in one video..shocking
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I’d love to play that video for the men who decide to wife up those broads 10 years from now.
#Rudeawakening
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Good f***ing God. Five minutes of shit show awfulness. These young women are truly f***ing repulsive. As a 50 year old, I can assure you I wouldn’t fuck them with someone else’s dick. No feminine qualities at all… None. Deep, scratchy tobacco voices… Fat rolls. I feel terribly sorry for the young men of today if this is the pig slop they have to choose from. We’re finished.
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> “I can assure you I wouldn’t fuck them with someone else’s dick.” Okay, that’s an instant classic right there.
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Say, Cap’n… that expression has been around since I was a teenager.
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I never heard it before but it’s a quality sentiment.
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The new version is: I wouldn’t fuck them with Hillary’s dick.
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What’s the purpose of showing these orchestrated that this mischlings and n1663rs have their wet dreams about?
Giving legs to this sort of bullshit makes you an agitprop stooge… like most of the other alleged lady-killers around here.
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What’s interesting about that video is that it shows that women, when alone, aren’t total whores. Some might be slutty, horny or easy, but to become outright whorish(fuck ya, cheat on him lol), they need the encouragement of their female peers.
What I find funny about the girls(18 to 22) in my country is that they’re exactly like this, they just don’t brag about it or espouse feminism idiocy. My generation is the last quasi-sane one and the conservative Eastern European women probably disappeared by the early 2000s among young people. I just seem to know too many girls who cheat or cheated and the girl I’m currently fucking has a boyfriend*. lol
*she wanted a booty call yesterday and she was being coy about it so I pretended I don’t understand she wants sex(while provoking her to have dirty thoughts), which made her sulk while trying to see what’s up with me(e.g. logging in and out of FB Chat). After a couple of hours of this, I simply Whatsupped her ‘someone’s being horny today’. She read it(quickly) , didn’t say anything. When I got home, I texted her a time to be at my place. When she got to my place, after smoking together, I was tormenting her about her being ‘cute’ when horny and not getting her way and then I whispered in her ear during sex that she’s such a ‘delightful slut’. I also sort of denied her the D until she admitted her boyfriend sucks in bed(this seemed to arouse her, although I was doing it just to troll her feelings, but she was a leaky mess to begin with). It’s funny because she initially didn’t want to say something bad about him, but I asked her why is she at my place then and that if her boyfriend is so awesome, she can go home. A few times, in between the things I tormented her with, I concatenated comments she’d like about her body being so nice and her being beautiful.
What’s funny is that I asked her if she wants to keep giving blowjobs like a teenage girl(she’s 19) and she got pissy I’m dissing her skill. I can’t complain about what she’s doing(thanks porn), but I told her that I’ll teach her how to give head better if she’s going to wear a schoolgirl skirt and she seemed excited about it. I’m sure if I would have asked liker her boyfriend would, she would have said no(she insisted he says please when he asks for sexual favors; I was like ROFLMAO inside).
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What a strange post PWN. You criticism them as whores yet then encourage them to act as such.
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Absolutely. These coozes are playing to the camera. Anybody ever see the business plan of Girls Gone Wild?
But it is a nice little summary of how seduction is on “easy mode” for today’s self-styled lotharios. Whenever you start to believe that some Master Player’s “method” has given him special access to special women, remember how few genuine obstacles one must overcome to get a buzzed coed hundreds of miles from daddy to play with his pathetic little pecker.
When Bacne and Afroman can use monkeyshines to get sloppy sorority sisters from Iota Eta Pie and Omega Beta Moo to play-act the slut, you know we aren’t adjusting anyone’s “score” upward for difficulty. It’s why the chief article of PUA faith declares all women to be secret sluts just waiting for a street magician (It Can Be You!) to kino their panties off. To even hypothesize the existence of a minimally virtuous woman with a soupçon of self-control explodes their formulas like dividing by zero.
Matt
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Good God! I used to regret having been born too soon, all those easy to lay beauties that I missed out on. If these are exemplars then I’ve missed nothing. They may think that they’re feminine and provocative but to my mind they’re neither.
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‘I thank God,that I was born Greek and not barbarian, freeman and not slave, man and not woman; but above all, that I was born in the age of Socrates.
Plato
I thank God that I was born slut and not virtuous woman, feminist and not patriarchy slave but above all that I was born in the age of i-phone
FemSlut
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Did you see the other video from the same series asking the girls what the most “ratchet” thing they did on spring break?
It was sad. Girls bragging in public about being gangbanged by three or four guys. Pretty bad stuff.
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She wants your desire not you asking her for permission. Now go ask your mommy of its ok to fuck a biatch right in the poos. Or maybe daddy will do it for u.
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I feel that men who seem like they desire you and exhibit restraint are attractive. Men who seem unmotivated or indifferent are not attractive
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Have you ever been tied up and gagged with your own underwear?
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Probably at some point though I can’t recall a specific instance.
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Normally I find LS annoying… but that, Mr. Blonde, was one smooth burn.
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I didn’t even understand that to be an insult. How was that a burn?
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Feminist(butto)X,
An ambitious lass…
Who wants to have class…
Knows that my ass….
Makes whopping quantums of gas.
It will be your privilege and honor to detox my buttox. You will be using a turmeric essence, to generate a nice golden hue.
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What is your take on women detoxing their buttox in front of men?
I’d prefer a response in limerick, of course.
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Oh the old fried ice thing again with women.
There’s nothing a man can do to trigger desire in a woman who doesn’t desire him.
[CH: wrong.]
So go with having her desire you more than you desire her. That’s how it should be.
[once a man knows how to trigger desire in a woman, it’s just a matter of time until she desires him more than he desires her.]
One example of this…she touches you more than you touch her.
[right.]
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[CH: wrong.]
No this is a truth as much as the sun rising in the east. Think of it like the friendzone.
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There’s nothing a man can do to trigger desire in a woman who doesn’t desire him.
[CH: wrong.]
I would guess, actually, “it depends”. Sometimes the desire is latent or dormant, and can be awoken with game. But sometimes, the woman just doesn’t like that particular man’s physical type or whatever, and nothing will work.
[CH: the “wrong” of course refers to the assertion that there’s “nothing” a man can do to trigger desire in a woman.]
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‘But sometimes, the woman just doesn’t like that particular man’s physical type or whatever, and nothing will work.’
And that’s what I meant by nothing…not even game will work. Latent or dormant desire still means desire is present there.
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Earl – how would you explain the prevalence of the oft told story of the girl saying “I never would have imagined being with him, he is so not my type” …?
The heart (and vag) is awakened by the mind. The mind is awakened by game.
From your posts I can tell you have never changed a girls demeanor from cold/benign or outright hostile to awe and lust with a comment and a smirk. This is why you don’t believe that desire can be created. This kind of thinking is just a crutch to preserve male ego in the face of failure, or to avoid the risk of failure completely by not starting an interaction…
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‘From your posts I can tell you have never changed a girls demeanor from cold/benign or outright hostile to awe and lust with a comment and a smirk. This is why you don’t believe that desire can be created.’
No I believe that desire is more based emotionally and a woman’s turf. If she likes you…you can certainly fan the flames of desire. If she is going in cold for you, you can’t create desire in her. I’d even take hostile because you are working with something.
Plus I have plenty of times changed a girl’s awe and lust to cold/benign or with comments and smirks. That’s why I think it’s 90% her feelings and 10% you not screwing them up.
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@Earl “Plus I have plenty of times changed a girl’s awe and lust to cold/benign or with comments and smirks.”
Ahhhh I see the problem. Once you have done the opposite you will believe the opposite…
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I’m thinkin’ this girl is just a classic example of privilege gone off the rails:
https://maggiemcneill.wordpress.com/2015/04/13/guest-columnist-kaytlin-bailey
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It’s a cruel God that made women such beautiful creatures, and then gave them such high standards.
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That wasn’t God on the high standards part…that was the serpent.
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Matt King will be along any moment to show you the error of your theological comment.
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Matt King won’t be commenting again until the chateau’s supply of vapors is replenished… the continued sight of your swooning puts him off his feed.
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And yet, they always toss their high standards out the window when an alpha comes around.
It’s a nonissue.
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“1. For the most part, yes. Don’t do anything you are not 100% comfortable doing. You need to live with yourself. Most guys will cave, confess, feel enormous guilt etc. If it’s not fun and affirming, don’t do it.
2. You misunderstand – don’t rub it in her face, don’t let her know know if you will, and don’t let any of her friends or family find out. Pro tip – your beta white knight buddies WILL tell her if they know…”-
Sentient, the pro tip is so true. While going through the reset I noticed the white knight friends getting all lined up to save the damsel in distress. Was truly amazing and made me sick at the same time.
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“I noticed the white knight friends getting all lined up to save the damsel in distress. Was truly amazing and made me sick at the same time.”{
i had a buddy like that. always playing the white knight to the girls behind our backs and then acting like everyone’s best friend at the same time. disloyal piece of shite. i’m sure he thought he was just better at gaming than everyone else so that’s how he justified it. but the reality is, he just probably couldn’t get decent girls any other way so he had to hone in on other guys’ women while they were having a rough time.
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I would call them vultures. Waiting for the relationship to die. That was their only hope and even then they were never successful.
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There not vultures, vultures act with more purpose. They are just white knights. It’s a dominant characteristic in the majority of guys. They are just programmed this way. I bet the majority of white knights would be offended if the girl offered sex to them because that would shatter their image of women. I mean if it was a deliberate strategy to get laid, that is at least some type of game.
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I had a friend who did the same thing as blart’s friend with my ex’s in college. The friend pretty much admitted he was desperate to get a girlfriend so the vulture act.
White Knights truly think they are helping the damsel in distress.
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Is it wrong to ask your wife every now and then if she found someone else yet?
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Best to leave hypergamous dogs lie.
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You are probably right. I think I have been overdoing it especially when I tell her she should try and find a guy with a good pension. She said that all the guys at her work are beta’s.
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I dunno – it sounds like you have a pretty good rapport there with your wife. Keep it up. She might be a keeper. How many kids do y’all have?
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“I dunno – it sounds like you have a pretty good rapport there with your wife. Keep it up. She might be a keeper. How many kids do y’all have?”
A few. The youngest is 17.
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She thinks sex is really not that important.
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You could ask her if she’ll let you bring a [younger] sister wife into the marriage to assume the baby-making duties now that she’s getting premenopausal.
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I’d advise to establish some passive dread. You working out, or droppin some weight is fine. Or buy some expensive underwear. She’ll pick up on it, it’s women’s logic and the competition anxiety will make her want you more.
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S!ster w!fe suggestion still in m0d.
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Sisters wife is married to a beta, white knight who is ex military and a police officer. 6′ 1″ 280 pounds. Wife and two daughters names tattooed on his arms. His mom would take him along to visit her lovers and smoke weed when he was a boy. He cheers for women. Wife has a part time job with dad’s small business but she wants to go full time with big company now. She showed a little ioi toward me at the last family get together.
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“I’d advise to establish some passive dread.” –
Will this increase sexual desire? Give me an example other than the underwear thing….
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Why, dude? The new and more expensive underwear signals to her that you have some reason to look good down there, and since she knows it isn’t for her, she fears some competition. Losing weight and starting to work out is another great strategy, because that’s what women do when they’re getting ready to leave you. It’s crucial that you’re not doing anything actively like approaching strangers or voicing your concerns about the dead bedroom.
Play the game better than her by using womens’ methods.
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“Losing weight and starting to work out is another great strategy, because that’s what women do when they’re getting ready to leave you.”- wow is that true. Already in good shape though.
“It’s crucial that you’re not doing anything actively like approaching strangers or voicing your concerns about the dead bedroom.”- Holy shit! I have done a lot of both!
anon dudebro, how do you know all this? What do I do now? Why can’t I approach other women or get their number?
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anon dudebro – been reading Rollo Tomassi’s book?
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Lichthof, I didn’t read it I inhaled it. his stuff is excelelnt and IMO the most profound when it comes to women’s psyche. To put it short the book is a must read, but don’t get caught reading it, as that will really set her on fire.
Anonymous, see, the concept is that you make yourself more attractive to women in general. You might be in good shape, I say get even better. You seem like a lazy dude to me. Stop it.
You can’t approach or complain though because these overt techniques will give her a reason to blame you for everything. So passive stuff like I mentioned above are the key.
Women may enjoy s*x, but to them it’s more a tool to control you! Show her that you aren’t impressed by her s*xuality and that denying you the poon will not phase you. In the meantime you will get attention from other girs preferably in her presence, so that she fears to lose the security and provisioning you’re offering her to another woman. When you take the comfort away from her she will try to get it back and what is the only tool women have to secure a man’s commitment?
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anon dudebro-
“In the meantime you will get attention from other girls preferably in her presence,” – So do or don’t approach other women?
“so that she fears to lose the security and provisioning you’re offering her to another woman.”- lol, I worked my ass off 15 years so she could stay at home and do facebook. She hated me.
When you take the comfort away from her she will try to get it back and what is the only tool women have to secure a man’s commitment?- Alright I am calling bullshit on this one. I am working less than I ever have my whole life. Not making much. Sent her back to work. Seeing improvements that I did not see in 15 years.
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Well, these are just some thoughts of mine, you might have different realtionship dynamics, but some basic rules still apply.
With comfort I mean this: She’s basically very comfortable in her LTR with you and even though she might basically enjoy s*x that’s not enough for a woman. If you instill the dread, she will fear losing you sooner or later and try to use s*x to rope you in again. This depends on a multitude of factors though.
As I was saying, do not approach strange women. Don’t try to discuss this issue with her.
As for other suggestions, use your brain. What can you do to show that you’re still interesting to other women, where could you be to receive some flirting, etc. In a newer thread sentient mentioned to get a hobby and stay out a little later than usually. –> don’t be predictable!
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“Well, these are just some thoughts of mine, you might have different realtionship dynamics, but some basic rules still apply.
With comfort I mean this: She’s basically very comfortable in her LTR with you and even though she might basically enjoy s*x that’s not enough for a woman. If you instill the dread, she will fear losing you sooner or later and try to use s*x to rope you in again. This depends on a multitude of factors though.
As I was saying, do not approach strange women. Don’t try to discuss this issue with her.
As for other suggestions, use your brain. What can you do to show that you’re still interesting to other women, where could you be to receive some flirting, etc. In a newer thread sentient mentioned to get a hobby and stay out a little later than usually. –> don’t be predictable!”
Thanks for the insights. When I detect dread in her it seems to be coming from the fact that she sees the reality of me with another women. Before my threats were never taken seriously.
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It might be her seeing you with other women or her imagining it. And for the imagining part, that’s when you go out, get a hobby etc. Womens’ imaginations are a powerful force.
One last thing: Always show her, never tell. That’s a must. For example You show her with your attitude and keeping it vague when you return from your hobby or whatever, you never tell her you got some flirting.
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I went to the drugstore on my lunch break with every intention of approaching someone who didn’t work there. None of the other customers qualified for flirting, but one of the cashiers was attractive so I jumped in her line.
Once she started ringing up my drink I asked, “Are you having an exciting day?” It’s pretty innocuous but typically gets a laugh. She actually told me she was excited, though, because she got a new car today and couldn’t wait to go drive it. I teased her for bragging about buying a Ford focus, and she launched into a speech about why it was a step up from her last car.
This is very mild stuff but I got a laugh and a smile, and our brief conversation was better than silently staring out the window while she rang up the transaction. Plus I’ll probably see her again.
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Building an empire one women at a time.
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Sounds like the subtitle of a movie.
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Ya’ll hear about dat rape in Pnama Beach? Me neither, dawg!
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Hello, I have a question about text game:
I’ve added recently a girl friend in Skype from my little brother’s Internet social circle (she’s living at 1h+ of driving). I was like “let’s add her, practice my text game”.
She’s a cute asian, not hesitate to make sexual innuendos. She talks to my brother a lot, but he’s in orbiter status.
After several days of her accepting my invitation, I have this text exchange, though I was out of state (I couldn’t find anything witty and stuff):
21:07 girl: Hi c:
21:25 me: hey
21:25 girl: how are you?
21:26 me: yea. You look like in great mood.
21:27 girl: Yeeeeah?
21:27 girl: What do you do?
21:28 me: training
21:29 me: you do you train
21:33 girl: yes
22:00 girl: why?
My questions are: Is it bad that I ended it like this? And What I could’ve done to make it progress more? I’m not used to text game, so it’s really tough for me.
The last few times I got a number, it all went down super fast the moment I started texting with the girls I picked up, even if the girl was attracted in person and it went well live. My guess is not enough comfort or lack of escalation (like asking the number before leaving because I didn’t escalate enough to what could’ve been a kiss in person).
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Dude, this is your brother we’re talking about? And you’re going behind his back? Your own brother?!?!? At least give him a heads up. SRSLY. Nothing is more important than family. Never risk your relationship with your family over something as trivial and as stupid as p00ntang.
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Welcome to the world of the South Park muh-dik generation.
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The aspie is strong in this gentlemen. Seriously the brother relationship trumps any infatuations you have with a broad.
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She is just a friend, not his girlfriend. I would try NOTHING if they were actually going out.
If he actually wanted to improve and seek my help (because he knows I think differently), I would be GLAD to help him instead, but he’s too much socially conditionned to accept what this site talks. If I would give him advice about women, he would just ignore me and/or call me sexist.
Also, I just wrote “practice text game”, I don’t want to drive more than 1 hour just to bang her. I don’t do that to piss off anybody, just to improve myself. I don’t have a car anyway.
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Traitor.
Your character has been revealed.
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The yellow fever is a reliable first tell. Some internal right-angle must be a couple degrees askew for a white man to go slumming at the International House of Pancake-Faces.
Matt
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Women want to be desired by the sort of guy who maybe just had an old used car of his sold&bought in the main auction room at Sothebys in London (Mayfair), England. The surreal amount of money involved will always be the minor point, as these things go. Bling is bling. Until it is better than bling.
The main point is that this kind of story can easily be refined and retold in such a way that it leaves the ladies wanting to know more about you – a lot more – than any other car related game-thing you could ever imagine. Mystery, royal-status, foreign mystery; it is all good.
It was a Porsche from the factory race shop.
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These musings always sound better when you picture them coming from an old cat. I wish there was an easy way to animate this…
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Heh, heh… Rum-Tum-Tugger
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[…] Commenter irishsavant puzzles over a seeming contradiction at the core of Game philosophy. I acknowledge that I haven’t taken a formal course in Heartisteology but surely there’s a blatant contradiction here. […]
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I actually role played a beta chump as a joke with this girl. She laughed and said it was revolting. Then she f-ed my brains out. Who knew studying beta behaviors and mimicing them for a laugh would get tail haha
Thanks CH
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In the meantime, this poll suggests a Hillary Clinton victory at the presidential election:
https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20150413084747AA9UKro
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Yes a CNN clown has just communicated breaking news to the dumb multitude
“Young girls are excited about Hilary”
I guess it is safe to say that Hilary is equally excited about the young girls
Compared to the Carpet Muncher even Agrippina has some redeeming qualities
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I don’t think this is a contradiction/paradox, nor do I need some fancy rationalization about women not actually wanting sex or men to explain it. It’s simple, women desire men to feel lust towards them and their desire arouses them, but the man has to DHV first. Basically, women want qualified desire, not simple desire(in my case, I do find horny women sexier and I like provoking them until they can’t control their lust, but if she’s unappealing physically, no thanks).
This is why Mystery’s cat string theory is so apt. Take a string and play with a cat and let the cat grab the string often(being a horndog to women) and she will lose interest. Don’t let the cat grab the string at all and she will lose interest(the guy who never approaches or seldom displays sexual interest).
“who may meet the expectations of your gender politics (treats me as an equal; is respectful of me; communicates with me) and your parents’ preferences, but he may also put you into a sexual coma”
I have a problem with that. The man isn’t sedating women into a coma because they meet the expectations of her gender politics or whatever. He does that by lowering his value by giving a shit to begin with and then conforming to things that women find repulsive sexually(can I, pretty please, touch you there = conforming to her gender politics?).
From my experience, which isn’t vast, but I’d say is ok considering I’ve been with girls from different regions of my country, ethnicity and social class, is that women want you to desire them and skillfully ‘subjugate’ them to your desire. All of the girls were white, so I won’t talk about other girls, but I’d be surprised if this would be different. If either the desire or the skill isn’t there, she won’t be receptive to you.
The lack of desire can also signal a health problem, evolutionary speaking. If you don’t want to fuck a pretty girl, you are spewing many potential genetic problems regarding being sick, fatigued or a pussy that is lying about his desires. Now, even if you’re a novice, you know when you ran good game on a girl. Even if she doesn’t like you back and you don’t get her in bed, if you did the right things, was she genuinely offended by your desire? So desire isn’t a problem and never was, except if you conflate desire with being a horndog. Just like being dismissive towards her doesn’t mean being an indifferent and blase(I fell for this when I was virgin and just started reading about game)
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Nietzsche put it better in his Will to Power doctrine. But hey, if you need the aviator goggles and feather boa to get you there, who am I to judge?
Matt
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All women are rape victims with Stockholm Syndrome, and they can’t decide whether the pain of pregnancy and childbirth is really worth the pleasure of being loved. They are conflicted.
With a man, there is no consequence to having sex, which is why he is so eager to jump into it. If there was no government forcing him to pay child support, all he technically has to do is go run and hide somewhere like an irresponsible coward.
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How about you go and spit your feminist bs over at jezebel, they might actually like it
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Actually the USA gubmint forces meek & weak White Betas & Gammas to pay for the babies sired by loud offensive Alpha Bad Boy R-Selected Nogs. [White Alphas are either in the underground cash economy or else they’re paying only 20% due to Cap Gains differential taxation.]
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CH, why are you allowing this obvious cooze shill to parade around here?
And under a man’s name?
(((shakin’ mah haid)))
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“If there were no government forcing him to pay child support, all he technically has to do is go run and hide somewhere like an irresponsible coward.” — Matt Chinglinksy
“…distrust all in whom the impulse to punish is strong.” Nietzsche understood the modern SJW perfectly.
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All feminists live in delusion about human behavior works because they don’t care to research how God set things up in the beginning.
First note…one of the first seeds of true love is sacrificial suffering. Such as a woman sacrificing her body to bring new life into the world.
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What do you think would change when Hillary Clinton wins the elections?
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E V E R Y T H I N G
/gayface
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LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Ok, I get it now.
I……think…
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This girl had a car accident and needs money:
https://dreadedscribe.wordpress.com/2015/04/13/unforeseen-storm/
I feel sorry for her, but I’m afraid if I help her I’ll be a white knight (because if she was a guy I really wouldn’t care at all).
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Is that actually YOU, dearie?
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Former Rams RB Lawrence Phillips suspected of killing prison cellmate http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3279076/posts
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http://img1.imagesbn.com/p/9781599323794_p0_v2_s260x420.JPGa
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Not sure anyone cares.
Not sure if it’s actually news. Dog bites man. meh.
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Are you old enough to remember the 1996 Fiesta Bowl championship game? That was the single most dominant NCAA football team that I’ve seen in my life. Apparently Sagarin agrees. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1996_Fiesta_Bowl
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I’m old enough to remember the first Super Bowl…
Nevertheless, I don’t follow college athletics and seldom pay attention to pro sports beyond a bit of baseball…
Nor do I see the connection here.
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I actually don’t follow sports anymore, but I was a sports nut as a kid. And this idea that [arguably] the best player on [arguably] the greatest NCAA football team of all time is now, not quite two decades later, just another incarcerated thug murderer, is pretty stunning to me. Maybe OJ Simpson did for sports icons what Bill Clinton did for adulterers? So that now it’s all just ho-hum everyday occurence boring dog-bites-man?
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“Are you old enough to remember the 1996 Fiesta Bowl championship game?”
I remember that game. Frazier was unstoppable and all the talk about Phillips. I hate Phillips. In a MNF game in 1999, because Phillips missed his block, Aeneas Williams laid out Steve Young and that was Young’s final play.
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You can’t make this shit up.
http://money.cnn.com/2015/04/14/news/economy/heforshe-equal-pay-day/
“Men, turn your pocket change into something meaningful.
That’s the United Nations’ message for National Equal Pay Day. It’s part of a campaign of the HeForShe initiative, which asked men to post photos to social media holding three quarters and three pennies.”
There’s more lolzolzlzlzolzol.
“The UN also asked men go one day with equal pay, suggesting they donate 22% of their paychecks Tuesday to HeForShe, which will use the funds to to support equal pay programs.”
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If women are making 78% of what men are getting, they’re overpaid.
Ladies, let us know when you’re actually doing equal work.
Now go fetch me that left-handed screwdriver and two gallon cans of Tartan paint.
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Ha.
If women only make 78% of men, then why doesn’t every company fire all of its male employees and hire only women? 22% savings in labor costs goes a long way toward profit.
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Because they’re only worth about 48% of the pay they are pulling.
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