A good troll should leave the target of its trollery wondering about its sincerity. Given the ambiguous nature of advanced trolling operations, many victims get tripped up by them. CH has, nevertheless, gained expertise in spotting all forms of troll, in part from experience dealing with them and in part from innate aptitude at sniffing out fake phony frauds. Here’s an “anonymous” reader who pinged the CH trollometer.
CH question of the week:
Can a 50 something guy consistently and successfully game hot girls in their mid 20’s?
I can’t wait to see the answers.
I bet.
The use of the artlessly derogating term “guy” in this instance is sort of a giveaway that this questioner is a female troll, probably badly aged, but I’ll take its question at face value because my answer is useful for men reading here.
The answer is: Depends. What does he have going for him? How charismatic is he? What do you mean by consistently? Does he have a huge gut? Is he self-confident? Does he mingle with younger women from a position of high social status?
But really the most important truth for older men reading is this:
The typical 50-something man will have more success gaming hot girls in their mid-20s than the typical 50-something woman will have getting the romantic attention of men of ANY age.
HTH.
He certainly can on seeking Seeking Arrangement. 🙂.
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I think you nailed the demographic of the poster, but not her intent.
She has an alpha husband who cheats, and she’s wondering what degree of poosay and how much of it he’s getting
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CH, one nice thing you find out about older women is that when they are horizontal, jowels and booby sag disappear.
Pro beauty tip for women: Stay horizontal a lot.
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not seen you on ‘d’s site in a while, you chucked in the missus and gone rogue these days ? always enjoyed your posts.
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Mrs. Gamer and I are doing fine, thx. I need to check on D again. Thanks for the props. I hang out a lot at Spawny’s blog these days.
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ads, glad to hear that, I think we will discover, a lasting LTR beats a PnD any day of the week.
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I threw up in my mouth.
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Thanks for sharing your visceral misery, not. Does it bother you if someone not you might enjoy eating and reading at the same time when you are miserable? Sheeple are always relativists.
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A comment like that makes one appear to be a trolling feminista.
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Swallow it, douchebag. Honestly, you are such a waste of oxygen.
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Maybe that’s why you’re omega?
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You aren’t going to win this one. This site is about helping men trade up for younger and tighter, not figure out how to make due with less. This just in: Old women are not sexually attractive. Welcome to Earth.
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So what are you doing here? Your hand’s your age and you can make it as tight as you want. You Fairy (H/T GE)
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My hand is way better than aged pussy.
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Oh I thought this was about article.
Yes old hags are disgusting.
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The best troll ever was that Promoting Justice character at Chuck R’s old blog.
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Troll notwithstanding…
While I’m sure there will be lot’s of needless debate over your age bracket as SMV peak – the short answer is yes, absolutely yes. I’m 47 and know other guys older than me who do great with mid 20’s. It is a perfect age really, they have gone through the college BS and have left the cocoon of mummy and daddy and now in the world for real, needing to make it on their own. They have shitty apartments and low paying menial jobs – and an egg timer running in the background…
They are very open to meeting successful cool guys who know what appears to them to be “everything” have tons of wisdom and a relaxed vibe. Authenticity.
It’s really the same game – alpha confidence, dominance, playfulness, teasing, flirting — charmed seduction… no matter what the age.
Likewise AFC beta is still gonna get AFC beta results at 20 – 30 or 50.
The real big advantage you have is over her peer group guys – you are everything they are not – you have stature, assets, experience, social proof… all the stuff chicks like besides looks. Get the right frame and you are golden.
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Great post, also you will have intense desire for them, they find that irresistible, their 20 something male peers don’t really have that almost out of control desire for them, to them they are just one of many, to you they are one of a kind.
Now that is what the female seeks at every age, even very very young. That absolutely intense desire for them.
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No.
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And no
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Yes, this. I see it a lot around here. Hell, I’ve been that older guy with the twentysomething girl. It’s key for older men to keep fit. Also, if you’re not used to dating much-younger women, don’t let it show. Occasionally I see older guys looking very awkward and self-conscious. Project confidence, charm, wit at all times.
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Also, project, they are all you want, but you will never verbalise that or let them know.
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Good advice all around.
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It’s key for older men to keep fit.
Yes, this. If you keep your weight down and avoid having the typical middle-aged man’s physique, you’ll automatically look younger.
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brought over from the other post… All these guys are in their fifties. What choices have they made? Who are they? Who would YOU rather be.
Hint – it’s not just the physical appearance. It’s a combination of things, attitude, etc. Look how SP is standing here for example…
Contrast is alpha.
Just being the different guy in a herd of 50YO guys who all look and dress the same is a huge advantage. You don’t need 5% bodyfat… sometimes you need a sport coat. Sometimes a fitted T shirt. Sometimes loud, sometimes quiet etc.
One thing for sure, when you live who you ARE, no matter what or how – you become authentic. Authenticity – of good traits – is catnip to women.
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You should stand out from the corporate dorks wearing boring, ill-fitting suits from Macy’s and pleated khakis and polo shirt. Sometimes all it takes is a shaved head, a beard, worn denim, a fit physique, etc., to distinguish yourself.
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Also, if you’re a 50-something man and you insist on wearing a sport coat, you could always throw on a brightly-coloured cravat or neckerchief to add a splash of flamboyance. Thurston Howell Game, brah.
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I like your style, Laguna!
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+1 on the fit physique… most guys don’t keep themselves taut, so one is bound to stand out.
It also gives you an air of authority, which not all gals dig nowadays… but the ones that do… ring-a-ding-ding.
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Comment about fit physical appearance is spot on… makes one stand out immediately from one’s peers, especially amongst older men.
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Funnily enough while googling an image for Thurston Howell came across this cat – Dai Llewellyn… who apparently slew epic numbers of hot young things as an older bon vivant. International Wildman Hall of Fame Society eligible… some wisdom from the man “I gave the message that I loved everything about women”… Spot on.
Quite an introduction to his obit…
“Sir Dai Llewellyn, 4th Bt, who died on Tuesday aged 62, became famous as a playboy, bon viveur and darling of the gossip columns, his reputation reflected in soubriquets such as “Seducer of the Valleys”, “Conquistador of the Canapé Circuit”, “Dai ‘Lock Up Your Daughters’ Llewellyn” or simply “Dirty Dai”.”
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/4231516/Sir-Dai-Llewellyn.html
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@Sentient I about died when I saw this picture. This reminds me of something that happened to me a couple of weeks ago. I am at a corporate event with about 100 or so of my peers. It is in a city and section of town with a large college population so young 20 something pussy everywhere. One night me and six other guys split up in a group to go to some of the bars. We are walking down this street and there is pussy everywhere. But the contrast in my clothes and theirs, is stark. I am 52 the rest of my group are 5 to 15 years younger than me. One of the dudes is in pretty good shape but dresses for shit. The rest are a fucking train wreck. I am talking huge beer guts, flip flops, cargo pants, stretched out golf shirts in strange colors, shitty posture, with that defeated look on their face, it was a example of what not to do.
I on the other hand dressed well, I am at least 20 lbs lighter than the rest. And I was “actually talking to girls”. I have had some really difficult times recently approaching solo in strange cities with few prospects, and crashing and burning. So I know how hard it can be. Besides night game is not my forte. But this place was heaven many many girls party atmosphere, and I was with my buddies. So I went to the bar and ordered a Glenlfiddich and started chatting to the girls around me. The first girls were nothing great but it was a warmup. But my friends just stared at me. Then as I talked to another group of cute latinas my friends moved away from me. This group of latinas left after a little while and another group of three very cute girls comes up and we just start flirting and talking and joking around. Lots of smiles innuendo touching hugging teasing. All these chicks were graduates and in mid twenties and it was a lot of fun.
I turn around to get some of my friends to come over and help me and my friends have moved to about 40 feet away and they are all looking at me like I just invented fire. I waved them over but none of them would come over. And of course they wanted to leave. It was a good interaction after many major failures lately. Needless to say my friends all treat me very differently now.
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@reco – well I’m shocked that big post went through. I have like 5 or more missing…
FWIW – I have the exact same problems with guy friends when we go out. One thing about game, when you start getting good it just seeps out, you can’t turn it off. so If I am out with some buddies invariably some flirting will take place and they will go pale.
At a big outdoor event, lots of young girls dressed up and circulating. great day great vibe. I am matching stares, opening just for kicks and invariably kino, hand on shoulder, teasing stuff like that. Just some good natured fun.
My buddy as we walk away from one such group “you assaulted that girl”… i stop and ask him WTF? He says “you touched her arm, she didn’t say you could”… I crack up. WTF… This is a mid fifties exec… pretty alpha if you just met him…
Later a hot number locks eyes with me. I hold her gaze to stare her down as we are going past… keeping her gaze by turning my head. she thrusts her hip out with her hand on it and say “keep looking” with a playful smirk on her face. I crack up. we keep going. He says “she told you!”… They just don’t see the game…
LOL
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@Sentient sometimes they go through. Who knows?
And that is exactly it. The looks they gave me was not one of envy or jealousy or certainly not encouragement. It was fear. It made them nervous, uncomfortable, they just wanted to leave. We were in the perfect spot for pussy and drinking and fun and we had only been there about an hour and they were not only not going to help me. But they wanted to leave. It was so far from their reality.
These are good guys successful high earners people you would want to be friends with, people I can trust. But the whole experience was surreal.
And it was not like I was doing anything spectacular. I have natural friends back home that would have blown me away in comparison.
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another thing that helps… hang around young girls. I have 4 daughters teens to early 20’s… I don’t game their friends LOL but it’s so easy to just chat up any random 20 something as a result – you know a lot of the popular references, and can explain to them how stupid they are, with conviction and no trace of anger LOL.
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Totes. It also helps to volunteer at high school and college parties in your community where you can mix and mingle with the young’uns. If you show up enough times and act cool, over time they will accept you as part of the group. Just keep it real.
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Likewise AFC beta is still gonna get AFC beta results at 20 – 30 or 50.
Glad to see Average Frustrated Chump still being used. Sometimes that’s a better expression than beta I think; less saddled with broad theory. I have seen it at the SoSuave forum, but rarely in the manosphere.
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Concur Arb. Alpha is not some kind of irrevocable certification. I HAVE ACHIEVED ALPHA STATUS SUCKERS! LOL
Everyone is a balance of alpha and beta traits, and a lot of that is situational and seasonal…
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My scarf, it was apricot.
Trouble is, I couldn’t keep one eye off the mirror.
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That song is about me.
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(heard in the background, high-pitched voice)
“You’re vain!”
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As I read this, there were clouds in my coffee
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Those were your dreams.
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That was da GBFM adding lotsa cream from his lotsa cockas lzozlzlz
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He does give away the things he loves
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Another half-century old cultural reference from Greg Eliot.
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Strapon, how’d you like my half-century old size 12 foot square in your ass?
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Your vein!
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Owww
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All flamboyance aside, the comment about fit physique to stand out is spot on. Makes one stand out immediately, especially when older.
It also gives your demeanor and words an air of authority, which not all gals like these days… but the ones who do, well… ring-a-ding-ding.😉
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Regardless of rate of success, a guy in his fifties who’s single really has no choice but to at least TRY to date women in their twenties, or younger.
Attractive women in their thirties are at their worst. High expectations + astronomical narcissism + egg clock ticking + declining sexual market value + bitterness = misery for Jack.
Women 40s onward: at least the narcissism declines but they smell and look like old dirty laundry. Instead of trying to hook you with their beauty, they’ll pull your pity strings with all their fn health problems. You’re better off with a dog….
I’m a successful, athletic mid-forties dude and I won’t look at girls over 25. Not worth the effort. The girls in their thirties are falling out of the trees all around me like overripe fruit but I can’t even talk to them without wanting to laugh, or cry. If they’re still hot hey’re expectations are so preposterous, like I’m going to hand them the keys to the kingdom for a couple of decent blowjobs and a sagging 35 year-old pair tits and ass? Talking to them at all simply validates their love affair with themselves. I pretend they’re invisible. This gives me no small amount of pleasure.
If they’re medium-hot then it’s just sad. They bought into the female sexual empowerment hype and now they missed their window. I might talk to them, or throw them a compliment if I’m feeling generous, but they get ZERO sexual vibe or flirtation from me. Because it’s cruel. It gives them false hope at a time when they really need to start focusing on building their 401k.
By contrast, take a young, curious, honest, unspoiled beauty who genuinely appreciates your company, and your cock, and she’s an absolute pleasure to spend time with. And if I accidentally knock her up, it won’t feel like the apocalypse. The sex is truly free. Because they feel free. It’s a brief window in a woman’s life.
It’s do-able, but if fifty-year old dude pushes himself to be youthful, fit, fashionable, unburdened psychologically and emotionally, and not needy, he can pull the young ones. Even if success is slow, you’ll find that merely talking to a woman in her sexual prime is still more satisfying than banging an aging bitterbitch.
Some tips: Embrace your grit, if you have it. You’ve earned it. And it’s attractive to a lot of women. Maybe most of them. I’ve noticed it’s the rebellious ones I have the most success with. Probably because there’s a taboo for girls to date someone that could be their dad. Learning to spot those types is key. Avoid online dating, texting, or other shallow forms of interaction. Be brutally teasing and unpredictable. Do the unexpected. Position yourself somewhere where you come into casual contact with lots of younger people. Work security at a club on weekends. Be a “photographer”, etc.
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Good stuff.
I just talked to a not-so-bad, surprisingly honest, 40s woman the other day. She referred to her physique as Gross.
As CH has posited many times, perhaps they despise us for talking to them at all, because they ultimately despise what they’ve become.
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Fantastic comments. My experience has roughly been the same.
I know what you mean about the rebellious ines. When I was really young and just starting out I restricted myself to the cute, respectable preppy chicks who I thought would make good wives, but I wasn’t particularly attracted to them.
As I’ve gotten older I find it’s the rebellious girls–indie girls, surfer chicks, biker chicks, artists, tattooed girls, etc–who are the ones most attracted, and who I find the most attractive.
As you say, putting yourself out there where you’ll find these women is key.
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Very shivie comment, sir.
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,”you’ll find that merely talking to a woman in her sexual prime is still more satisfying than banging an aging bitterbitch.”
This thread is full of some choice wisdom.
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Yeah, that was a solid page.
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@SF this is an amazing insight into the older man younger woman dynamic. There are so many gems I could not go over them all.
Just say that this has been my experience. My thought early on was hell I will just go after the ones 15 to 20 years younger than me that will be youg enough. This would be women in the early thirties to early forties. But it would not work. They were just too fucked up. I have to go with the twenty somethings they are so much easier to deal with.
And yes you are right just interacting with the 20 somethings is fun even if you don’t get the bang. And fucking the older bitter bitch leaves you down and regretful to have put in the effort for such a used up worthless cunt.
If I could rep you I would.
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“Troll notwithstanding…”
Sorry, but sometimes you gotta do what you gotta do to pull out the best in people.
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The 21 year old I’m banging now…is a 7, slim, cute, big smile, feminine, looks up to me. She told me the age difference (30 years) doesn’t bother her because I look younger. But more interesting are the things she says that affirm her attraction. We went to a concert the other night. The singer was blabbing between songs in a very self-effacing way. Two cougars in the audience were laughing at every word….mine says “He lacks confidence” when I probed her on this she said he was talking too much, laughing too much, and the tone of his voice lacked confidence. This guy was much younger than me. She’s not a naughty girl, but she loved banging, sexual with me but doesn’t talk a lot about it…many of these girls want a guy to lead them. She’s a student but she still pays her way when she can. I tell her to cook, she cooks. She likes my experience. She’s asked a few times about my previous marriage–curious because of course it’s something she has no immediate connection to. It’s refreshing being with someone intelligent, mature but still young enough not to be jaded. For her my bluntness, my experience, physically i’m in great shape, but I’m also a mental challenge—always teasing her.
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@Sentient absolutely. I find with mid 30’s on up women just become absolutely impossible to deal with. Younger ones can be entiltled but not all of them. Most are a little intimidated by an older man. They are more fun playful sexy, sexual, and just do not give me any bullshit.
And another thing is they are not really looking for a boyfriend or LTR from an older man. They are looking for a new and exciting experience. That means shorter term relationships. Maybe 2 or three months depending on how you manage them and how much you let them get attached. Fits perfect.
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[…] By CH […]
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I’m in my early 60’s in great shape and I game/pull mid to late thirty something’s with relative ease. I’ve even got one HB8 supplying me with Viagra she steals from her husband.
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FoG (Friend of Game) Blackdragon over at his blog posits that about 1 in 5 young women are positively attracted to older men. Another 1 in 5 are repulsed by their age, and the rest don’t judge on his age either way.
That seems about right to me.
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Dont forget, with BPD’s prob about 10% of the pop, they just love older guys. THey are insane, but , …… they still love it.
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If you emotionally connect with a woman she will NOT notice your age, and/or she will backwards-rationalize your age difference.
[CH: and bingo was his name-o.]
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So being an older white man is like being a black guy?
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Droll.
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Nah, we can’t fake dropping that many IQ points.. Or bulge our eyeballs out of our heads like the ni99rahs can.
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There’s a fat Dindu in admin support at my company who does that whenever he sees me.
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Looks like my SMV graph is back in vogue on SLUTHate and the Purple Pill subreddit again.
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It’s true though that most 50 something men will not be the ideal target of a 2ß somethings girl. Only the best will manage it, I would say, but then, they would have a decent chance succeeding even when younger.
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Not so… I’ve had periods of alpha and beta over the years.. At 47 things are great with women, at 20 things were terrible… same wrapper but different inside.
This is where game makes so much of a difference. Getting the right frame and the right internals and the experience to know why your externals are working and how…
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Some men don’t grow into their looks until their 30s, 40s and 50s. The weathering adds a more rugged look that a lot of women love. Also, broken bones, accumulated scars.
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Indeed, the scars of life.
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“Pain heals. Chicks dig scars. Glory lasts forever.”
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Not everyone is the same. But a natural in his 40s/50s would probably be even better at 26 when it comes to young women. Some are late bloomers, however.
I think we can say with conidence that a high value man in his 30s/40s holds a sort of sway over women his age that younger men even those who are high value don’t hold over women their age.
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I was around 5’2″ tall, 115 lbs at 15-16 y.o. Still dropped maybe 8 panties during those years at an all-boys boarding school when girls’ schools visited us. Did better once I hit 5’7″, 125 lbs at 18 y.o. in college. Then I went Blue Pill after my freshman year until last year. Yuk!
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Did you drop your panties for a different guy each time?
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@theasdgamer
“I was around 5’2″ tall, 115 lbs at 15-16 y.o. Still dropped maybe 8 panties during those years at an all-boys boarding school when girls’ schools visited us. Did better once I hit 5’7″, 125 lbs at 18 y.o. in college. Then I went Blue Pill after my freshman year until last year. Yuk!”
interesting. what happened to turn you blue pill? sounds like you started out as a natural. was it all the brainwashing you got in school?
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Were they girl panties, or boy panties?
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Not sure. Some churchian brainwashing for sure. Some my own misunderstanding. Maybe some cultural crap.
It never inhibited my flirting. I flirted with lots of nurses when I was working as a ward clerk at a hospital. I remember chasing one around a desk as all the other nurses in the unit were laughing and encouraging me to catch her. We could have been a sitcom!
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@ LBF
Not your panties, that’s for sure. Heh.
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The biggest age disparity I’ve ever witnessed in terms of very evident female attraction to an older man: late-seventies alpha flirting and heavily negging two early-thirties girls. Their eyes were lit up lit up like furnaces. He wasn’t famous or anything like that.
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That would have been both disturbing and hilarious at the same time. My gawd, couldnt you get him to hit closer to his age. Honestly the gag reflex….
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If you’re bothered by gagging stop shoving cox down yer throat.
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“oink
If you’re bothered by gagging stop shoving cox down yer throat.”
beautiful.
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Minesweeper: it coulda been worse. Imagine a late seventies man who still prefers older women.
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@jez – lol – I’ll raise you, how about the strange and quirky world of the young man who granny chases. very disturbing indeed. I’ve not witnessed this myself, but the odd one makes the papers.
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@jez, actually I have witnessed this. very strange, he early 30’s, she early -50s with grand kids in a LTR, if I ever need a rapid boner killer thought or that I discover ive ingested poison and need to puke, I just think of that.
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I was not disturbed. I was talking mental notes.
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“Girls” stops applying at 30.
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I disagree, I have met several thirty-something women who can be described as girls. I have even seen 32-year-old girls who looked younger than some 27-year-olds. It varies. Depends on if they’ve been taking care of themselves.
But also, there’s a habit to say “women” for women and “guys” for men. CH started an effort to flip that, to say girls and men instead. It’s a good idea.
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I agree that “girls” has become too ubiquitous for women of all ages, but “guys” is not similarly age-bound. “Gals” is the female equivalent, but of course it’s fallen out of use. Maybe it will come back.
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No, girls stops when she lays down the mantle that she needs a man. So nowadays its late 40’s.
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In the meantime, the term “gentlewoman” has completely out of usage. Wonder why.
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The “guys and women” pairing has become ubiquitous. It has to be resisted even in one’s own writing. If you can’t say “girls” for over-thirty women, say “females.” Or say “women” as long as you’re also saying “men.”
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*has fallen completely
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Besides, if you want to take a hard line, without a husband and a child, it’s not a woman.
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You couldn’t be more wrong
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They don’t want to say “men” – “guys” is androgynous and safer.
He’s not one of those awful “men”, just a guy.
You know some hipstar phaag in skinny jeans who likes extra foam on his latte.
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I refuse to use the term “guy”.
Think about what the original meaning of “guy” is.
Hint: November 5.
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Remember remember…
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How about “dolls”? I myself say “gals”.
Just don’t say anything sexist… the broads hate that stuff.
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Avoid “m’lady”.
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I learned “toots” from Donald Duck and women love Disney, so win-win.
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And never call yourself a gentleman, especially a supreme one.
[CH: unless you’re being facetious and fucking with a chick for seductive shits and giggles. not that i would know anything about that…]
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Omega play. It’s a bona fide game tactic. Like grabbing boobies and talking nerdy. But I wouldn’t know anytbing about that.
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Broads.
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Skirts
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Slits
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sup bitch
bitch i hate being called that i smashed a dudes windshield for calling me a bitch
your the only one that is allowed to call me that
you get away with anything i would never do anything for anyone like i do for you
he he he
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fuzzyhead babykinds cuddly got all kinds of names for em
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Gash
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Split-tail
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I’ve been using “boopsie” a lot lately… makes it easier not to slip up.😉
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Hatchet wound
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Walking penis sheath
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I use “guys” when referring to females and there’s never a problem. Hey “guys”.
It’s also kind of a neg because they might be thinking “hey we’re girls, does he not know or is that just how he talks”. lol
“Hey ladies” suks balls for some reason. Creepy as hell.
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This wasn’t a troll. CH’s aversion to the term “guy” is strange and distorts his perceptions.
[CH: that’s why i wrote “in this instance”. ohiomega, i’m wondering how much lower the quality of your comments will go? it seems with each new spurt of resentment you have less and less to say that’s remotely interesting. check yoself before you wreck yoself.]
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CH’s aversion to the term “guy” is strange and distorts his perceptions.
No, it makes complete sense.
A “guy” is an effigy burned on Guy Fawkes Day.
It’s a 100% feminist term for a man.
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One of the original bad boys, then.
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Speaking of “guys”, I heard they’re going to remake Guys & Dolls with Vin Diesel playing Sky…
… and this time they really DO flatten the Taj Mahal.
/60+ year old reference, a meaty jest, and whoever doesn’t appreciate it can go hang… lzlzlzlzlzlzozlzozlozlozlozlozlozlozlozl
[CH: ‘guys’ is one of those millennial shitlib tics that’s morphed from overuse by feminists and manlets into a snarky jab of attempted emasculation. i have tried to bring balance to the force by using the terms “men” and “girls” in all CH correspondence.]
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You notice that even gals nowadays are referring to their hen party friends as “guys”… everybody is a “guy”, be they hens or roosters.
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Ouch! I hit a nerve. Real men refer to themselves and their friends as guys. It’s not some feminist conspiracy, and it sure as hell no longer has anything to do with Guy Fawkes. Gimme a break!
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As a self professed Omega incel who sneers here with effeminate seething resentment, you are the last person to wield any authority trying to tell others how to define real men.
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It’s interesting this new generation that they admit they are bad at something in their screen name but in the next breath they are know it alls.
And this seems to be the reason for the continued lack of improvement on their part.
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In my mid-fifties I find twenty-somethings to be almost painfully vapid and shallow and not worth the effort, so I treat them that way (aloof, disinterested, dismissive, et cetera). The results of this have been…interesting.
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All of these old men bedding young women simply confirms that weight trumps age as a physical detractor. My female peers will canoodle with geriatrics before they’ll even cast a look my way.
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Cue Joe Pesci:
“Whadda we talkin’ about, the weight? So stop eatin’, ya fat bastid!”
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Raging Bull, eh?
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Raging Cuck.
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35-yr-old reference from Greg Eliot.
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Have you tried bodybuilding and running and stuff or is that too hard? lol
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Was that supposed to be some kind of neener-neener, Strapon?
I didn’t know classic movies had an expiration date… you thimble… you piece of string…
You fairy.
On a side note, I met Jack Lamotta about 25 years ago… he was glad-handing folks at some sort of convention, the purpose of which escapes me now… an obviously battered-looking old man, but still on his feet and fairly witty.
You should have seen the late twenties/early thirties women gathered around him, glowing and preening like school girls. And this was a good ten years after the movie which brought him back into the limelight.
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Jake Lamotta is a miracle. A guy who beat a guy infinitely more talented than himself without even heving the saving grace of punching power.
I didn’t watch that ight, but I cannot even imagine how he did it. Must’ve had a skull made of granite, the gas tank of a Panzer and lotta heart.
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Who did he fight?
The sweet science is very much a mental game; what you guys refer to as “mental toughness”
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Southern Man, Im in my mid-twenties and feel the same way. Just gotta spin plates and find other sources of entertainment and intelligent conversation!
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Re: 70 yo Lothario
If he’s still fertile, why shouldn’t he look for a fertile receptacle (i.e. less than 40 yo female) for his fertile sperm?
Isn’t that the point of the exercise?
oink
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A boring bitter dude at age 50 is the same boring bitter boy he was at 12.
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According to R.Don Steele in his classic “How to Date Young Women for Men Over 35”, gray hair is a chick magnet.
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gawd damm hope so…
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So are deeply etched crow’s feet. See Clooney, George.
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Sure, it’s possible. Here’s a 49yo married man of three, who really isn’t much to look at, gaming a 20-something yo college intern: http://www.kansascity.com/news/government-politics/article20822424.html
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Is there a primer on how to get around the comment-censor on wp?
Seriously, everything I post gets eaten.
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There’s some sort of weird word list that automatically sends comments into the ether. Others head for “awaiting moderation” and display as such to the originator, but those, too, never seem to get passed through anymore.
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Figuring that out is like dividing by zero.
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There’s definitely something up with the filter…..just ask spirit within, all of his comments keep coming out homo
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Proof by example: Yes. Abso-f’ing-lutely yes.
Not any hot girl in her 20s, mind you, but there are so many with daddy issues or who are tired of εffeminate boys (both trends brought to you by the fεeminists) that it’s a target rich environment.
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[…] Source: Heartiste […]
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Money, resources and status. Tools of the trade for older guys.
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A pair of gabardines, clean matching shoes and belt, tailored shirt, shiny yet masculine watch, and an executive-style hairdo completes the package.
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We’ll see if my post makes it out of the ether… if not – this cat Dai Llewellyn should be up for an AMOTC place… what an obit!
“He insisted, though, that he “never got up in the morning and thought, ‘I’m going to screw three girls today’.” But: “If it happened, it happened.”
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/4231516/Sir-Dai-Llewellyn.html
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Heh, great obit.
Died aged 62, a reminder for one not to dawdle.
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When I was in Germany, you call an adult single female a girl and she’d be tickled; call her a woman and she’d think you meant she was a frumpy grandma or lowly washwoman and would take it as an insult. In the USA we say women don’t want to be called girls since they say it’s sexist; I’ve noticed they just don’t want to be called girls by the wrong guys, but they’d find something about those guys anyway for having the audacity to think they had a chance with her in the first place. At 30 I went mgtow before there was even a term for it, since I had no interest anymore in dealing with the emotional battering from the harpies and harridans (I don’t beat women and once one would discover she could scream at me any way she wanted and I wouldn’t giver her a pair of black eyes, I was toast), but once I discovered Game I figured it was too late for me at 48 to find the baby-mama. If I could game a woman to STFU without achieving domestic abuse charges via “the laying on of hands,” be a respected father and retain my non-violence to females morals, it may be worth a look at dating 2.0.
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“I discovered Game I figured it was too late for me at 48 to find the baby-mama”
head down to welfareville , 10 on every street corner.
Enjoy.
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It’s not too late. Go for it.
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Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?
It’s not over until WE say it’s over.😉
Side note to Strapon… this here’s a 37 year old reference, you dweeb. lzlzozlzzozlzozlzolzozlozlozozl
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Forget it. He’s on a roll.
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Seven years, down the drain.
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I recently met a 73-year old man, a retired bank executive, who lives alone, drives a motorcycle and (he claimed) picks up 35-40 year old women. He told me they’re fun to fool around with, but not much to talk to.
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Go to SEA. Set up a small business. Hire young women for practice and extra alpha status. Stave off the 20 year old poon until you are 80.
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MPCers must be mentally ill.
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The real question here is “What kind of ‘guy’ can successfully game girls in their mid-20’s”?
Since last year I’ve consciously started gaming girls in their 20’s. The youngest being 21 and 23. The 21 year old I’m banging now is an interesting case.
She’s an exchange student, leaving to go back in a few weeks so the whole thing would be 6 weeks. She’s sweet, cute and likes me for my experience…overall life experience.
It triggers her “protector of women and children”, Leader of men, and possibly pre-selected….She has asked about my long ago marriage.
I act and look younger but am more mature. Being in shape, being involved in your work and community….all of this is a major turn on.
The other thing is confidence. We were at a concert in a bar the other night. She remarked that the main singer lacked confidence and was “Trying too hard”.
I found him too self-effacing….his beta behaviours struck us separately.
I didn’t have to try hard with this other the other 20 year olds.
Teasing, negs are important….We played pool the other day, I sunk the 8 ball prematurely…. “you won….” her eyes beam…. I continue….”…by default.”
She loved that…I repeated it….to the point it was like a chant. I’d start: “You won….” she’d finish….”….By default….”
I also start to see the world through her eyes….She’s got her whole life ahead of her….mine in some ways at 50 is “half-over”….but my own energy seems to inspire her to dress well, engage.
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Yes we can . I have a 24 year old and a 32 year old in my harem , I’m 56
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another option for older dudes… Yoga… and coffee shops and juice bars by yoga places…
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Yes. Hot yoga in particular attracts a lot of hot, fit girls. Be warned: they can be a bit intense.
Take up a hobby like motorcyles, cars, and boating. A couple of years ago I fucked an Easyriders model.
The shooting range can be a good place, too. A lot of chicks who are into guns are irritating ‘Fuck Yeah America!” patriotards.
Just hanging out at the beach brings you into contact with a lot of younger women. Pick-up beach volleyball games are always promising.
Also, indie music venues, heavy metal concerts, and tattoo shows are always good. A lot of those girls are DTF.
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Beach is definitively solid. and you can come across one sets…
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hot yoga= hot women. + tight bodies. My wife does it around 3x a week.
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be freakish if leader of bloods and me on same board lol
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Apparently older dude younger women has been a thing for quite a while…. LOL
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I guess fat chicks have been around awhile too.
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Don’t misjudge the 16th century. Rubens had a thing for fatties.
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In homage to Roger Sterling…. best Mad Men character going. shot from “real” life. Does an older guy have trouble getting women? It depends…. It depends…
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50’s gaming mid 20s
he he he
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when im 50 18 year old virgin
when im 60 18 year old virgin
etc.
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if it get to be too much fucking em ill just ask for volunteers to get artificially inseminated to build the army
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baby factories ill model them after the projects lol
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How come I never win troll of the week?
Rape!
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I’ve been banging a 21 year 7, slim, exchange student for the last month. She’s going back to her country in 2 weeks, then in September will study abroad again. I met her at a party, gamed her, took her out, banged her the first “date” if you call it that.
Later I asked her what it was about me she liked…she liked the stories, the experience, the confidence.
I make her pay her way from time to time, I don’t put up with crap, if she forgot her walled, she’s cooking dinner…
The point here isn’t can a “guy” bang 20 year olds…the question is “What kind of older guy do 20 something year olds want to bang?” She is not a tramp, she quite rebellious in her quiet way but very sweet. So this dispels the “bad girl” meme. She wants the experience and I like banging sweet, tight 20 year olds, it’s a perfect set up. She thought I was in my early 40’s not nearly 50…her dad is 52. She is quite mature, very accomplished as an honours student but chill—not a shit-testing cunt. Kind of just…sweet. Teasing and confidence were the big game drivers on my side. I didn’t have to go too cocky funny because she could figure that at my age I was “pre-selected”. She asked a few questions about my former marriage, then dropped it: “are you still in touch?” “What did you learn from it?” Me: “not to get married again.”
The other girl I banged in that age range was the 23 year old actress–she was nuts but also similar: more artsy, mature, kind of a quiet rebel. These girls seem to have lacked a strong masculine figure somewhere in their lives.
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Next question. Would rather have a son or a daughter as a kid? Assuming you want children.
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I want both, preferred a son and got a daughter. Wife wants a son too. My daughter is still really fun to be around and seems to be very bright at 7 months.
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I think most of us start out wishing for a son… but once they arrive, so long as they’re healthy, it’s all good.
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Looking at what is available to average looking men in terms of women…… I might actually lean towards daughter.
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Way too late to reply, but our founder, Maurice GIrodias, showed up at a court hearing with a 19-year-old model when well into his fifties. Later relocating to the states, he had a doctor lady who paid his bills following bankruptcy, though she kinda got pissed at him when he was busted with another 19-year-old at a FedGov sting.
Everything I’ve read about him indicates he was a world-class ass-getter. Confirmed by folks who knew him. He’s maybe best-remembered today for publishing the S.C.U.M. Manifesto, but let me be clear, he fucked Solanas. Also, never had money.
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