One thing you’ll notice, and to which many men in similar circumstances will attest, is the puzzling decrease in eye flirting from mediocre women after you’ve experienced a personal improvement in your sexual market value stock.
It goes like this: You learn game, or acquire higher social status, or lose a lot of weight and carve out a masculine physique, and then begin to exude a presence, and carry yourself with a winner’s airs. You walk with your back straight, head held high, eyes flickering with percolating aggression and grin electrified with mischievous intent. You expect more women than ever before will be unable to avoid flirtatious eye contact with you.
But a strange thing happens. You are ignored by that undifferentiated mass of HB4s-6s passing you by on the sidewalk. Some of them even faintly scowl at you. What’s going on?, you wonder.
Just when you lose count of all the middling plain janes refusing your sexy smoky smolder, and you perch at the precipice of self-doubt, you also notice, happily, an increase in the number of hot babes — HB8s, 9s, and those rare O’Keeffeian flowers, 10s — stepping in to fill your ocular dance card. And, you can’t help but mentally acknowledge, a flirty eye glance from one HB9 can erase an angry brow and studied evasive glare from one hundred NB5s. (NB = Not Babe)
I’ll tell you what’s going on. Those NB mediocrities who once thought you were safely within their romantic wheelhouse back when the beta oozed from you like a jelly donut, now raise up shields of ego-protection when your alpha aura accosts their blandness. The plain girl’s refusal to allow her eyes to drift into your vicinity is nothing more than a defense mechanism to spare her self-conception the indignity of your assumed romantic rejection. You are too good for her, she knows it, and this prompts a subconscious sour grapes retaliatory countermeasure from her.
You’ll know this is what’s happening to you, (rather than that you are a variable in the simple arithmetic of female indifference to omega male white noise), if you concurrently experience an upsurge in eyeball attention from much hotter babes than have normally noticed you. The newly minted alpha male enjoys complementary rewards of his SMV stature: The sudden interest of better-looking women and the convenient removal of interest from homelier women whose posture of silent, spiteful preemptive rejection helpfully self-culls them from your briefest consideration.

Off topic, but thank you CH for your great website. You have changed my outcome, and outlook on things. It’s also good to see that you have racial views. Keep it up!
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You are all invisible to most girls you desire before you actually approach them.
Either you can act, or mentally masturbate. I prefer to approach.
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Eye contact is essential.
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And unwanted at every level of society, I’ve found. A poor beta and a rich beta are both uneasy with eye contact. Eye contact signifies a certain level of animalistic aggression that most men these days are uncomfortable with – except the ones worth your company, of course.
Still eye contact is essential and something every real man should practice.
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It’s definitely a strong signal. In the working class area I grew up in any guy who caught a longer than a few seconds of eye contact from another guy would meet it with something like “you got a problem” or “take a picture it lasts longer” an immediate challenge.
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Yes! More beta men treat it like a challenge, like confrontation.
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what color are you?
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You’re an odd little man, aren’t you?
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He’s definitely not one of your ilk, or he’d be down on that pole in a new york minute!
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Strong eye contact and stony silence are invaluable in the working world, especially when being “asked” to do volunteer for some meaningless work or after hours horseshit. Works on those offering apologies also. I try to think of DeNiro in Godfather II when the tenement landlord is apologizing to him for evicting the old woman, and he just looks at him, saying nothing. Landlord backs all the way down, leaves with his tail between his legs. Similar results with management types that got where they are by sucking ass and tickling balls, not actually leading.
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Between men, extended eye contact is a challenge.
No other reason to do it and it can get your butt kicked.
If a man stares at me I stare back, if it goes too long I’m going to find out what his problem is.
Beta guy will look away first and try to act like nothing happened.
He got punked.
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This is why I make sure to take the long way home sometimes and visit the chateau. At your best, you siphon certain dynamics of human nature from the pit and chase them into language in a way that rivals Céline. Well done
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Why don’t you just suck his dick?
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Something a repressed homosexual would say
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Cuzzzzzzzzzzzzz it’s in yer mommas mouth. Bitch.
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What color are you?
Judging from your churlish ingratitude, I’m guessing you’re a negro.
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judging from that plate of hate you eat every night Im judging you’re a pale faggot
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Good. Hate is more useful than despair.
I have comprehensive files on human psychology.
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Are you black?
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> “You walk with your back straight, head held high” Holding your head high is actually HARD work, and it probably helps to be working with some weights [e.g. lie on the ground and hold a weight on your head and do mini ‘head-ups’ against the resistance of the weight – and do this in all four directions]. Over time, bad posture and scoliosis really take their toll. Also, I am convinced that Evil Psychiatry’s Psychological Warfare Team taught candidate 0Bama to arch his head back [rather than naturally slouching it forward] in order to project the aura of superiority over schlub McAmnesty and schlub Willard.
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And of course there was the ultimate kino-humiliation of placing his arms on McAmnesty’s shoulders, where the Psychological Warfare Team knew d@mned well that McAmnesty couldn’t lift his arms, due to combat injuries.

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And anyone who thinks that these “kino-clues” [whether real or faked] don’t work spectacularly on at-risk voters, like single white womynzzz, is a fool who shouldn’t even be wasting our time chez Le Chateau.
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Zombie Shane, that’s the most ridiculous paranoid shit I’ve ever read. Evil Psychiatry’s Psychological Warfare Team teaching Obama to stand straight?
Fool.
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Getting back to the actual posture: Sitting on your @ss all day long, in a scrunched-up hunched-over position, staring at a computer screen, is just about the worst thing that you could possibly do for your posture – especially as regards retaining the ability hold your head up high and walk tall and stand proud. Cubicle monkeys are at a terrible risk for developing early-onset scoliosis and Beta Slouch. And again, I strongly urge any manosphere cubicle monkeys to develop daily weight training techniques for counteracting this [although the long term solution is to start your own bidness and quit being someone else’s cubicle monkey].
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beats pickin cotton
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Thwack, everything beats being you.
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EVERY SINGLE MOTION that 0bama makes is very carefully scripted. The Psychological Warfare Team pours over the smallest aspects of his kino and his voice inflections and his wardrobes and the photo backdrops etc etc etc. Which of course TJW knows perfectly well, since TJW is on the Axelrod/Sunstein payroll. http://iepecdg.com.br/uploads/artigos/090402_grunwald_behaviorial_obama.pdf
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Reblogged this on XWorkx.
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Omega males who don’t approach are self-culling in the same, logical way, so why the criticism of their timidity?
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It’s criticism of their loserdom. Or more to the point, it’s a feeling of revulsion, probably due to some DNA-encrypted mechanism.
Losers are unnoticed at best, and bullied most of the time. Look at the cruel games kids play.
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“it’s a feeling of revulsion, probably due to some DNA-encrypted mechanism”
i suspect the revulsion is correlated to the rather high chance an omega will betray his tribe to outsiders, especially when threatened
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Or it may be just the usual CH “tough love” approach towards bottom of the gene pool manoids.
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Get comfy, this is a long one but stick it out and you’ll read some shit and make some connections that I haven’t seen anyone else really write about before:
For the record I get zero eye-contact from ANY women.
My buddies (esp the ones who are non-white or short, like not traditionally good looking) don’t believe me because they’ve seen me in-field macking girls and they’ve seen me build my value up in a venue to the point where girls WILL throw me eye-contact. But if I’m just walking through a crowd at the mall or down the street or around a grocery store I get NO girls tossing me eye-contact. Hot, ugly, groups, solo, doesn’t matter, I’m essentially invisible by default. It’s not that we look at eachother in the eyes and she glances away too fast for me to do anything. It’s not that I look at her eyes a second after she looks away from mine. It’s not that she checks me out on my way up to the checkout counter and then looks away when she thinks I’ll notice. It’s literally they’ll look completely off to the side of me, down, above me, etc. and actively avoid meeting eye to eye.
On the flip side I have a non-white buddy who’s daygame advice to me is always stuff about “man just hold eye-contact and they melt” and it took him a while to understand that somehow a non-white guy gets more eye-contact than a white guy. Logically, I should be the one getting EC and he should be getting ignored. We’re in a city that’s primarily white too, so it makes even more sense that we should be seeing the opposite results. Logically the girls should be checking out the guy who more closely matches their mental image of who they should be with.
I attribute it to being peacocked by default. A non-white dude in a white city is peacocked by default. It’s an unusual sight to see, especially since he walks with confidence so it’s like “huh? What’s that?” and instinctively they look at him. Because they can’t instantly label him in their mind since he doesn’t fit their mold of what they expect to see, they have to observe him to classify him. The same way if a clown run through the room most people’s heads would turn to look at it just out of reflex. I have a short buddy (5’2″) who gets a lot of looks when he walks into a room too, because again he’s peacocked by default.
These looks aren’t necessarily attraction, they’re primarily curiousity or just a reflex, BUT they DO allow the guy an opportunity to lock eye-contact confidently and not look away and start gaming from that foothold. My short buddy uses the attention to engage people and build social proof quickly.
Whereas I have an extremely generic look. If you had to describe a generic average looking white guy, that description would be me lol Average height, weight, looks, clothes, you name it. I don’t even peacock, no wrist-bands or necklaces or wild shirts or anything.
And the fact that I look like all the other generic white guys ends up working AGAINST me…because how many cool attractive money dudes has she met? They’re rare in general as it is. But there are a TON of lame chodey beta AFC white dudes all around her, from her social circles, to her orbiters, to her classmates, to her friend-zoned childhood best friend with a crush, to every lame-ass dude at the bar who’s ever hit on her. All the guys who seemed cool at first but then turned out to be lame after a couple dates etc.
And engaging these guys can be annoying because they’re lame/boring, they get clingy and needy, the sex is bad, she ends up having to avoid their calls for weeks while they throw emo tantrums or cry about why she doesn’t like them etc. etc. On top of that, who are the primary assholes she experiences, like not the attractive assholes but the ones who legitimately do shitty things to her and her friends? Probably white dudes. Who’s her ex-boyfriend who was a loser? Probably some white dude. Who are the guys on the bus and street who give her weak-ass catcalls and if she accidentally makes eye-contact with some loser on the bus he takes it as a sign he has a chance and sits down beside her with his bad breath and awkward weirdness and she has to engage him the entire bus-ride etc (this is why when you watch a hot girl get on a bus she’ll often be looking down at the floor, not around the room, because she doesn’t want to accidentally make eye-contact with some loser and she’s in an environment where the people are probably losers cause they can’t afford cars lol).
So we have like hundreds or thousands of reference experiences of white guys being lame-ass chodes or assholes, losers, etc. and maybe a couple experiences with legitimately money white dudes who, even long-term, stay high-value.
So if we’re both walking down the street toward eachother, is it safer for her to assume I’m one of the few awesome dudes she’s met, or that I’m one of the VAST number of “I don’t want to engage with this guy” guys she’s met and avoid eye-contact? Especially if I look exactly like all the other generic white dudes?
And on the flip side has she ever MET and hung out with, like, a non-white dude or a 5’2″ guy in a primarily white city? No, probably not. She may have an idea of some stereotypes from TV/movies, but that’s about it. So she doesn’t KNOW what my buddies will be like and their body language and vibe doesn’t match the stereotypes she expected so she has to check them out to try to confirm the stereotypes to classify them. They may literally be her first reference experience of seeing one in person. Look at Mystery, you see THAT weird shit walking past you and how can you NOT look out of sheer curiousity at “wtf am I even looking at is this real life??” And if you’re a girl in a bar you want to shit-test that instinctively out of curiousity…but passing shit-tests builds attraction so you’ve just walked into the spider-web he laid out.
I get a similar issue with bouncers, my non-white or peacocked buddies have a WAY easier time getting bouncers to recognize and remember them because I look like every other dude. They’ve thrown out 3 guys that look just like me that night and there are 20 of me in the lineup when they glance over the line and they’re purposely trying NOT to engage us because we’ll be doing some stupid shit like begging to get in or trying to bribe them awkwardly or complaining about the wait etc. so I just blend in with the rest of them whereas the bouncer will pick my non-white buddy out of the lineup all “hey man what are you doing in line lol”. I have to actively get face-time and a few solid interactions with them for them to pick me out of a crowd or remember me.
So there are benefits to looking unusual, even looking a way that would normally be deemed unattractive, IF you can learn to harness the attention it gets you. I tried to explain to my non-white buddy that if he went to his home country where EVERY guy looked exactly like him and 90% of them were losers, he’d experience the same effect and get why girls don’t check me out.
I have minimal to no value until I actively approach a girl and express my personality. It’s not that I’m unattractive in general because once I approach I can skyrocket in value pretty much immediately and being my charming self and they love me, but before I approach I am just invisible furniture lol That would affect my confidence if I didn’t understand how game/attraction/psychology work, like you get new a new shirt and a haircut or you’ve lost a few pounds at the gym and feel good and walk around and no girls notice you, and then it’s all big sad feels…but because I know that as soon as I engage them and express my personality they’ll view me as a 10, I go from a non-entity they didn’t even realize was in the room to “where did you come from??” puzzlement at how they didn’t notice such an attractive guy was nearby, it’s like I materialized out of thin air to them…and so I don’t care about not getting easy Approach Invites like eye-contact.
Now I could tweak this. If I could grow to be 6’4″, or if I got super Hulk jacked, or if I wore crazy peacocky clothes, or if I pulled up in a BMW, or if I was having a loud conversation with a buddy where I’m expressing my personality, or if I had a girl on my arm, etc. If I do that stuff I’ll get more AIs and eye-contact. Hell the whole PUA community was based around “try to stand out” before you even approach. But a lot of that stuff can be a lot of work for little reward because even with those AIs I’ll still have to approach her since the girls who will approach me will generally be overconfident 5-7s at best…a 9 isn’t likely to drop her shit to come over and say hi to a guy the same way Bill Gates isn’t going to flip his shit and dance down the street over finding a $10,000 bill on the ground because her entire nightlife social circle is often jacked rich good-looking dudes…plus she needs a guy who’s confident enough to approach her. A lot of the really good looking guys you see at the bar who don’t have game and like the guy who just climbed Mt Everest etc. stare at the 9s all night but end up going home with the aggressive/easy 5-7s.
Ultimately looks etc. will get you more easy invites but they don’t really matter because you still have to do the hard work if you want the really hot girls. That’s why we say “looks don’t matter”. A lot of these guys working on their looks and money are trying to get jacked and rich enough that 9s will come over and approach them. They’re trying to get Bill Gates to chase a $10,000. That $10,000 is great, but like, he has billions, he’s not going to fish that bill out of a sewer like the average person would. So they’re trying to get around having to cold approach because cold approach is scaaaaaaary! Then they get frustrated because ya they get laid by 5-7s with the occasional 8 and super rare 9 but it’s inconsistent as fuck and they don’t really get to choose. They’re trying to run passive game and hoping that table of 9s is going to come over and ask to suck their dick.
So my logic is that if I want the legit hot girls that have tons of options and turn heads, I have to approach them and express my personality to get them whether I’m jacked and rich or not. Since I have to approach them whether I’m jacked and rich, then logically it makes more sense to focus my energy on tightening my cold approach skills and get better at efficiently expressing my personality and building emotional engagement with them instead of lifting weights and working overtime.
And, plot-twist: BECAUSE I look so average, when I cold approach that peacocked 9 in a nightclub who’s used to only tall rich good-looking guys being confident enough to interact with her, this exact principle I’ve been talking about suddenly works in my favor because now I’M the peacocked one. A guy with seemingly nothing going for him approaching her confidently with game is so unusual that she’s curious. She won’t check me out from across the room by default (tho she might if I DHV a bunch in front of her), but she won’t be able to immediately categorize me when I approach because it’s so unexpected and she’ll shit-test the FUCK out of me (but what does passing shit-tests do?) but if I can run solid game on her and handle her AMOG orbiters, then I’m like some kind of celebrity level value to her because I go against all the stereotypes of what she’d expect from an average looking guy.
But by default I am invisible. Just posting this ’cause it’s something I haven’t seen people address before. On the net we all want to hype up that we’re badasses who strut into the room and all the girls’ heads turn and that that’s the guage of your game but getting eye-contact doesn’t actually mean shit in the long-run…it comes down to game. I can build higher value by getting in her face and expressing my personality than the jacked rich guy can with his passive “hope she approaches me” game. And if he has to get in her face and express his personality too, then I have more practice at that and a tighter skillset because I was working on that all those years that he was working at the gym and office. I have more experience handling rich good-looking AMOGs than he has experience handling average looking dudes with game and all it takes to get attraction is to be 1% cooler than him to the girl lol
I’ve had really good-looking wings with various skill levels, but like good-looking to where if I don’t do anything the girl will actively ignore me or brush off what I say and turn back to focus on him and I’m literally standing there looking at the back of the head of two girls while they stare up at my buddy like he’s amazing lol And that pissed me off for a while. But because it pissed me off I started getting up in the girls’ faces when it happened. And lo and behold I found that if I pro-actively get up in their grill and express myself, they’ll focus on me instead of him and on my on nights, my BUDDY was the one looking at the back of their heads while they were completely engaged/attracted to ME instead of him…the first few times that happened blew my fuckin MIND. Couldn’t believe what I was seeing, and neither could he lol
But all that was going on is that game has taught me to very efficiently express my personality and engage/captivate girls on an emotional rollercoaster quickly that hooks them and builds my value fast to where I’m higher-value than the good-looking guy who was like “so uhhh do you like coming here? that’s cool…” because he just came from the office where he worked an 80hr week and the gym where he silently worked out with his headphones on and got drunk off pre-drinking instead of heading out early and doing warm-up sets to get social and unstifled.
Now a good-looking rich guy who’s ALSO got game can have problems too, like getting put into a Provider role where the girl wants to date him instead of fuck him right away and he starts having to lie about what he does for a living and pick the girl up in an average car instead of his BMW etc. There was a thread on Rollo’s blog and one on TRP I saw recently where guys were talking about having to hide their success and make up fake jobs and shit. So if you end up having to hide that shit when you get it…then why are you reading this in the office at 11pm on a Friday night???? Go out and sarge, dumbass lol
The reality is that a good-looking rich guy who’s also got amazing game is about as rare as Michael Jordan also being better than Tiger Woods at golf and better than Bobby Fischer at chess and better than Gordan Ramsey at cooking and better than Jimi Hendrix at playing the guitar…it’s theoretically POSSIBLE, if he starts from babyhood and dedicates his life non-stop to all of those things 24/7…but realistically it’s unlikely, because there are only so many hours in the day. If you’re spending 2 hours a day at the gym to get super jacked and working 100hr work-weeks to get rich, that’s all time that you could have spent approaching girls and getting out of your comfort zone in social circles to tighten up your game so you’re not likely to have game as tight as someone like Tyler who’s spending all that time sarging. It’s just logic. The boogeyman myth of the rich good-looking badass guy who also has game is as likely as that All-Star athlete/genius/musician…and hell, even if that guy existed, you think he’s going to be down at your local pub? He’s going to be in exclusive clubs in LA and Vegas partying with Dicaprio lol Your competition is a bunch of average to above-average guys with anything from anti-game to weak-game to above-average game. If you put in the field-time and study you can dwarf them in terms of skill in a few years of hard work.
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I respect ur grasp of social skills but ur logic is so ass backwards. Most of ur comments are just ego saving bullshit cuz ur a loser at ur career. U recently said u were working on ur career hehe wat happened there? Not a good life for poor men, eh?
There is only so much one can do in one area of life like social skills and cold approaching. How about being a well rounded dynamic and interesting man who does a variety of activities
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@yareally that is great stuff. I have been with a wing that was off the charts good looking and a bad boy type and I got to know several girls from the back of their head really well. And not In The good way. And is was recently it was not pleasant. What would you do about that? Do you have any tips to get back in the game when that happens in the moment? He was also the drunk guy type that says what he want and they were all giddy over it. Amazing.
Also I always hear this theory about how game can get you up to maybe 1 point above your current SMV. Do you agree with that? I mean you are talking about bagging 9’s after all. That’s like the top .5% or something.
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Thought NB should stand for No Body
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Huge response in mod. Approve this one plz CH and I’ll give you my best sexy stare
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Ahhh. The good old days when things would come out of mod. Fond memories.
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I can still remember. . .
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“Approve this one plz”
pretty pretty please, with sugar on top
“Huge response in mod.”
I’ll summarize in case it never gets released.
“kant stared deeply into my eyes…. and then I bricked in his mouth.”
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Coincidentally, this has been happening a lot to me lately. I get some pretty nasty eye venom hurled my way by the ne’er-do-alpha plain janes. I’m still in a transformational stage, but I’m getting easy laughs and lots of attention from cute chicks. It’s unfortunate that unattractive women are such bitter losers, but hey, lighting up the eyes of the > 6s is worth loads of bitch face from women who don’t really matter.
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Props for “ne’er-do-alpha”. Clever.
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‘lighting up the eyes of the”
I love making good looking women smile. Snow blind.
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It’s condition reflex. Fear. Amygdala reacts on white color. Eyeball protein (the stare) and white teeth. The fleeting reaction.
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Interesting. I’ve never found black men threatening in any way (in fact, the twinkfags all have glamor muscles and a glass jaw) and I wonder if skin tone plays the same way as what you have described.
I often have thought that shitlibs like to pump the “white fear of the scary black man” meme for the simple fact that they are scared shitless of the capacity for whites (and themselves in that mix) to absolutely destroy r-Selected species and use it as a form of social control via projection.
Have to think on that a bit.
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do you have a daughter?
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Nope. High T….all boys.
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I often have thought that shitlibs like to pump the “white fear of the scary black man” meme for the simple fact that they are scared shitless of the capacity for whites (and themselves in that mix) to absolutely destroy r-Selected species and use it as a form of social control via projection.
Actually, I believe it’s projection. I’m not scared of blacks, but shitlibs seem to practically have a phobia of them. And when they meet blacks in person, they plaster this completely fake grin and completely fake niceness. I just treat them like I’d treat everybody else.
Ironic me being the actual equalist here. Heh.
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“Do you have a son?”
Fixed that for ya!
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Reflects my experience also. Especially the hostile glare from fat/old/ugly (or any combination thereof) chicks. Was slightly unsettling when I started to notice that; being confronted by such obvious, naked hatred (and jealousy?) when inhabiting the kind of carefree mindset that attracts such a reaction – and provokes the opposite response from more attractive girls.
Beginning, quite recently – and for my own amusement – to make a conscious effort to flirt with everyone, it’s surprising how often the munters won’t even make eye contact, and act curt and rude, whilst the cute ones hold one’s gaze, and usually smile broadly, and try to prolong the encounter.
Good looking girls recognise the game for what it is and are happy to play along, increasing their attractiveness in the process. Non-babes are, quite simply, anti-fun, which just compounds their repulsiveness.
Anyway, it’s another great CH post, and something to look out for – you know you’re doing something right once you start seeing the bitter broads giving you the stinkeye, and it’s possibly a more compelling tell than what might just be general, not particulr, friendliness from a cutie.
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There is a group in between the NB and HB during this phase that refuses to self de-select. Those are the one that hover on the line between hot and not hot. They often the town/station/ships bike and, because they been used to some middle to higher middle quality male attention, still consider themselves worthy of yours. Actively spurning them will raise your perceived value among quality women, but beware because your rejection of them will drive them insane with angry desire. Avoid these skanks at all costs because they are crazy stalkers in waiting.
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Protip right here.
Some examples are:
Bartenders
The typical gymrat chick
Young (18-20)
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Young. Is good.
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Conversely, I have noticed a disturbing increase in eye-flirting from genuine uggos when I am feeling down and out.
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After slavery a lot of white guys didn’t want to talk to me anymore.
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Who wants all that antique farm equipment cluttering up the place?
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Ask your woman next time you catch her staring at my gunz (and not sayin nothin)
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Ask yo’ mama’ the next time she’s reloading mine… and sayin’ plenty.
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Are you black?
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And why “Blonde” (feminine) rather than “Blond” (masculine)?
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Because the feminine form of blonde is blondie.
class dismissed.
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It’s up to the teacher to dismiss the class… not the clown sitting in the corner with the dunce cap.
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Because the feminine form of blonde is blondie.
class dismissed.
“Blondie” is the diminutive form of blonde.
(shakin’ mah haid)
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You do know the Celtics and the Germans were at one points slaves of the Romans. You blacks don’t half go on about it.
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Oh? And when did YOUR particular slavery end?
Or did you mean incarceration?
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With your kind’s abortion rates, I’m not sure you’re still not over being treated like fauna.
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If the commentary here was even 10% as good as the original posts, I would struggle to pull myself away from the chateau. YaReally and PA and a small handful of others are very high quality. Just giving props, and hoping this site goes on forever. And you have far, far more twitter followers than the numbers listed, for obvious reasons.
Off-topic. This quote, from a much earlier post, is burned into my mind and woke something up in me that, legitimately, changed how I see everything and how I behave:
“Easy living (c.f. porn, video games, endless plates of food stamps) has taken the edge off the urgency to create a compendium of works of spectacular art that can win over a large and dedicated audience of admirers and payers. Men, in a word, are being medicated into comatose feminized stupor by dopaminergic distractions”.
I would love to see more posts on this topic, how all of us have such untapped power that we could redirect, instead we waste it fapping to Sasha Grey’s distended anus.
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Greg Eliot, lets keep it in the realm of things you know about. What is it about the word “assume”? And by the way I never said all neocons are Nazi’s. Keep it real bro.
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-04-05/leader-ukraines-ultranationalist-right-sector-appointed-army-advisor
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“percolating aggression”
The lesser girls are probably intimidated more than anything else.
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I made mention of this earlier up that even men are intimidated by this same phenomenon. Even wealthy and powerful men will sometimes have an aversion to eye contact. You’ll know which ones took their status like a wolf or bought it like a sheep based on the amount of paid enforcers they keep in tow.
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great post.
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honestly I think eye contact is overrated. it probably had a use during fights or something you just ordinarily don’t do, i think it is rude now to laser someone with your eyes. pickup types do this constantly because they think it is getting them somewhere. i can tell when someone has read game manuals when they make excessive eye contact.
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I’ve encountered some alphas who can’t look anybody in the eye, but there’s still no doubt that they’re alphas. They tend to be the burly type.
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Eye contact is pointless. “Maintain eye contact when talking to someone!” Why? Conversation is verbal and aural. I don’t have to be looking at them to hear them.
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The only hostile look I occasionally get from women is from fatties with mudashark tells.
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Damn the mod to hell seems to be getting through just fine.
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When I was in college I discovered that if a girl across the room at a party locked eyes with me I could just walk up and start kissing her with few or no words exchanged.
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Barnabas, that is very interesting. It makes sense. Note to self on that.
Took balls to try that theory out the first time?
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Greg Elliot-“If the neocons are NAH-ZEES, why are there so many shekel-grubbers pulling their strings?”
I expect much better from you Greg. Truth has no agenda.
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http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-04-05/leader-ukraines-ultranationalist-right-sector-appointed-army-advisor
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“Putin fed and sheltered over 1 million refugees fleeing ethnic cleansing from the neocon backed Nazi government.”
Let’s read this again for comprehension purposes Greg. And no the conspiracy theory that there are no NAH-ZEES involved in the new Ukrainian government does not hold any water whatsoever. Laziness is the cause of these assumptions most times.
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http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-04-05/leader-ukraines-ultranationalist-right-sector-appointed-army-advisor
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I expect Godwin shaming language from the Cathedral.
Most here abhor neocons, and rightly so… patriotards and shills in the pocket of Israel merit nothing but disdain.
The fact that many prominent YKWs are poster boys for the neocons makes it ironic that you would speak of their backing a NAH-ZEE gummint.
So, hate on the neocons all you wish, they deserve it… but do try to escape the subconsious Cathedralese, there’s a good fellow.
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And for the record, keep your specific replies intra-thread… it’s a bit strange carrying them over from different subject earlier posts.
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“I expect Godwin shaming language from the Cathedral.”
Sorry for the shameful frame. With that said you came at me with some bullshit and I called it out Cathedral or no Cathedral.
Just stating facts.
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This post is absolutely true, but I think some of it is just plain old fear. Women, being smaller and weaker, are biologically wired to fear and avoid imposing-looking alphas just the same as beta men are.
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One of the keys to understanding the blue pill/red pill matrix is knowing who are the good guys and who are the bad guys. If you people think the neocons are not involved in a massive propaganda and misinformation campaign the likes of directing major media then you are greatly misjudging things. There is a reason the NSA now has a storage facility in Utah which is the size of a small city.
There is a reason people like Clinton, McCain, Obama and Ohiomega despise Putin. There is a reason Rand Paul gets attacked by Fox news, Democrats and Republicans when he shushes a female reporter. There is a reason Bill Clinton forced cultural diversity training on corporations.
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This reminds me of when the mystery method was big and “negging”was in vogue. This was designed for hot girls in clubs. If a girl is believes she is below your sexual market value, negging is really bad strategy. A sweet compliment followed by a gentle tease is a better opener. The girl doesn’t have to be ugly either, just too introverted/awkward to realize she’s gotten cute.
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One thing I’ve noticed about eye flirting is that girls give much more flirty eye contact when they are behind glass.
Yes, behind glass.
Meaning through a store window as I walk by, through my car window as I drive by, or through a subway car that is about to leave the station.
Its not the glass of course. My cursory analysis is that girls are more brazen with their approach invitations when there is little or no chance of an approach. Five feet from a girl and a sheet of glass between you can be the difference between being ignored and getting fuck-me eyes. I don’t know if a protective shield makes her feel safer flirting with a stranger or if it dings her social value less if her approach invite is given to a guy who will gone in a moment. Its a curious phenomenon.
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a great observation.
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What about behind bars? Fill us in on how that flirting style pans out, t-h-w-a-c-k.
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The Amsterdam red light district doesn’t count, nigga.
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How the fuck would I know?! When my cellmate is doing me from behind, eye contact ain’t happening, bro! Class dismissed!
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there may be another aspect of this, the opposite of a feigned cold shoulder; super drama
low self esteem average girls have a history of starting drama around me
im talking random chicks ive never talked to attempting to manipulate other men into physical confrontations with me
i assume they were just trying to ‘self-soothe’ their feelings of perceived inadequacy
any ideas…
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It’s a test by proxy. I’d consider this a good sign.
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test by proxy; trial by combat
thats some game of thrones level barbarism, bitches be insane
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This is perhaps a new awareness. I’m not so “afraid” or more positively positioned, I’m more confident about noticing and making eye contact with hotter women while ignoring the ugos.
It’s the same with any new skill. Since I’ve started Djing—I notice crap music…I notice good music, I can tell the pacing and when someone’s put effort into it. Before I couldn’t.
But eye contact is crucial….it always means something….an invitation, eyes down…shame or eyes down and smile, submission.
These are micro movements which I pick up on and if I’m not in the right frame of mind don’t act on….
A smile is almost always an invitation to approach.
I can also sense fear in girl’s eyes, nervousness, anger…deadness. Sometimes all from the same girl in the span of a few minutes.
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I have to work harder to game a 6 than I do an 8.
Get out in the field and you’ll discover the patterns.
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Inches?
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Even though you’re an imposter, I must say, one word has seldom brought me greater risibility. Well-played, sir… well-played, indeed.
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I noticed something similar to this a few months ago:
I had to go to the parking office for our building since my card no longer worked. I went with our receptionist and all the women in the parking office were typical bloated, fat office ladies. Young too; I’d say maybe mid-20s, but given their girth, you know, that stress tends to add years.
Right away, the one lady was giving me this glare, this downright vitriolic gaze, almost like attacking me with her looks much as she would verbally berating me. And even though at times her attention was towards the receptionist (a dude) she was sneaking out daggers through the corner of her eyes.
The only thing I could think of as this was happening: awesome!
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Re: shekel grubbing frontrunners
Let us not forget that frontrunners even found a way ‘to Adolf’s knob.
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Again, DUH!
Working both sides of the street has always been their forte’…
To the point where I’m sure evolution has embedded the trait within them at the genetic level.
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For this to even be a thread, along with the comments, goes to show you that men’s egos are quite delicate in their own right.
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Well, DUH!
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This article has cleared up one of the biggest frustrations i’ve been having lately in my Game. Being a Londoner and the majority of girls here being a 5/6 at best. I’ve noticed the majority of them simply do not want to make it obvious to me that they’re attracted.
This has gotten worse as my style and confidence has improved. It was really easy for me to turn in on myself thinking I wasn’t attractive enough to get the attention. But it seems the opposite is true – They’re simply viewing you as too high value and unobtainable. I may need to start traveling to Europe more. I seem to have a more accurate estimation of my value abroad and what I can really get.
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I’ve noticed this with my DB7 live-in girlfriend. (Decent Babe)
My life has gotten increasingly better financially, chiseled gym body confidence etc since I moved in with her last September.
She will be dump fodder soon enough, she knows it and I see it first and foremost in her longing gaze… Almost like she’s remembering what life was like when I was still attainable, although that even took a year of her hard work, determination and convincing.
I gave in, what can I say.
I just turned 40 last week, she’s 28. I settled.
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This effect can be useful to have a pleasant evening out alone when you are not looking to pick up anybody and just want to enjoy your beer. If you don’t ooze beta insipidness (and you never should, as a matter of habit) you will get swarmed by fat chicks, superannuated strippers, etc. It is too much work to swat them all away individually and still have a relaxing time, especially considering that each one has been formulating a scheme to draw you out. One needs a solution that scales up with minimal effort. So all you gotta do is game a 7 a little bit and the masses back off. If you frequent the same place often, just ladder up to get rid of the 7, and before long you have the hottest girl around (or 2 or 3 of them) under your arm. Game isn’t just about removing panties from hot chicks everywhere you can; it can be used to keep all the myriad interactions we have with women on our terms.
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It’s true. It’s all true.
The only caveat in my case is that in my immature years I would still get a lot of initial interest from cute girls, but my omega and then beta behavior would scotch that pretty quickly. Nowadays, I’m able to prevent that from happening.
But aside from that, if I had to guesstimate, I’d say there’s been a 75% dropoff in attention from uggos and fatties since I’ve learned Game. It’s not 100%, possibly because some of the Not Babes hope against hope that I am in fact a beta who simply happens to look good and have an attractive superficial attitude, but generally speaking, they don’t even bother.
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It’s a weird thing to experience plain janes act not only defensive around you but hostile.
Or…you get a split of plain jane hostility plus a following of girls who are happy to be your friend. which for those of us leaving greater beta is kind of a new thing.
Anyway, bitter angry fugs reminds me of a recent fugly statement from Sandra the Slut Fluke. She would never touch a republican, you guys, sorry. What is up with bleh girls going out of their way to say some guys have no chance?
[CH: self-promotion.]
It’s probably the same phenomenon. What? Now we have to take time out of our day to ingratiate? Is that what she wants…for mewling lesser beta republicans to try to buy her flowers? Or is she creating a mental barrier that cocoons her from rejections.
[she’s just imagining herself to be more sexually irresistible than she is.]
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Eye flirting goes down, as does conscious IOIs, but unconscious IOIs like hair preening and adjusting oneself, or the typical behavior a female does in the presences of a more high quality male will still stay the same, as far as I can tell. But I’m talking about plain janes 4-6.5s, not fatties or uglies [1-3s]..never really payed much attention to them.
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[…] One thing you’ll notice, and to which many men in similar circumstances will attest, is the puzzling decrease in eye flirting from mediocre women after you’ve experienced a personal improvement in your sexual market value stock. […]
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