Possibly the most iconic charismatic alpha male jerkboy in pre-post-America movie history is the character “Bender”, played by Judd Nelson in the (all-white) cult classic The Breakfast Club.
On that topic, a reader writes,
I’ve watched this movie twice this month. You really have to appreciate Bender’s alphatude.
I think it would be fun to hear your take on him. To my surprise I’ve searched around the Manosphere and found zilch. You would think he would be the poster (man) for the Manosphere, at least Alpha of the Month!
Could it be that CH overlooked Bender as Exhibit Asshole of the jerk with the alpha attitude that is diggeth by yon maidens? I searched the archives and, scandaleux!, an ode to Bender is nowhere found. Pry your eyes, time to rectify.
Bender is the classic übercool, sarcastic, brooding, lone wolf neg machine who supercharges the sex fantasies of girls from good backgrounds. He has so many great scenes of game in TBC that it’s hard to pick a favorite, but this one — a quickie in a closet where Bender responds to Claire’s pregnant ASD inquiry about his feelings towards her earlier trick of putting lipstick on herself using only her cleavage — is (IMfactualO) the perfect distillation of charismatic jerkboy game in as few words as humanly possible.
Claire: Were you really disgusted about what I did with my lipstick?
Watch out! This is a scrumptious niblet of beta bait that Clarie tosses overboard to see if Bender goes all goopy on her. Most betas would promptly qualify themselves, along the lines of “no i was just kidding with you. how could i be disgusted by anything you do?”
Bender: Truth?
Bender knows what to do with beta bait. Tug on the line, get the girl excited that maybe you’ve bitten down on the hook, but attach an old shoe instead and watch her face light up when she reels it back onto the boat, happy that her feminine wile was so expertly subdued.
Claire: Truth.
Bender: *nodding as if saying ‘yes’* No. *follows up with award-winning smirk*
Unpredictability and playfulness are the alpha player’s coin of the womb. She expected a straight answer, he responded with a flirtatious contradiction in verbal and physical acknowledgment. In other words, he broke the courtship rules. And she loves him for doing that.
Bender’s alpha attitude is a fusion reactor of gina tingles. His kind is so rare and so in-demand by women that he’s practically his own gender, a subspecies of betamale flaccidus. Why aren’t there more of him, then? Maybe his subspecies is reproductively self-correcting, flourishing only when his numbers in the broader population are low.
The CH series, Great Scenes of Game in the Movies (GSGM), is a useful learning tool for men seeking to become the charming player who sets female hearts fluttering. Movies are fantasy, but fantasy reflects real life desire, otherwise no one would be interested in watching. Art must contain a kernel of truth to have any true effect on viewers.
Browse the archived GSGM entries
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and the one that started it all, here.
PS a girly commenter (swkstudent) to the above Youtube video snippet, shocked and dismayed by what she saw, felt an incredible urge to volunteer this ego-fluffing platitude:
no she likes him because she knows deep down he’s not an asshole and he was honest with her
It still amazes me the lengths to which delicate flowers will go to avoid the bleeding obvious when the bleeding obvious isn’t kind to their comatose belief systems.
swkstudent, you can’t later rationalize your love for a jerk by insisting that deep down he’s not an asshole unless you first know he’s an asshole. Otherwise, Brian, the niceguy in TBC who’s clearly not an asshole and who’s honest with everyone, would be sailing the seas of Claire’s beaver brine. And yet he’s not. Fancy that.
[…] Great Scenes Of Game In The Movies: Bender Gender […]
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Reminds me of Crazy, Stupid, Love where they actually nail a lot of the core concepts of Game. You should check that out when you get the chance, CH.
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How do some guys pull off sensitive game? They aren’t great looking and they really aren’t that great of people. It is a facade.
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would LOVE an expose of beta male of the week and white apologist Tim Wise (check his twitter for a chuckle or two: https://twitter.com/timjacobwise). this guy is the worst of the worst
[CH: timwise is in his own category: hypocritical anti-gentile low T faggot race cuck.]
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Not for nothing, but Sheldon Cooper. If he weren’t a spaz, would be perfect alpha male material. He’d be tapping Penny if he weren’t asexual because his game is tight.
His reactions to other people’s concerns, questions, morals, values, families, etc. etc. reveal some dark triad stuff.
of course, the nerds at Cbs are going to have to deballz him to make him consummate his relationship
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Behold the Millenial alpha.
What you’re saying is true of every gay male.
Lambda =/= Alpha
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I guess us guys and girls have different meaning for our unicorns.
the ladies want a gay bestie
the guys want threesomes
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PA, I hope you or my other main man Arbiter can comment on something I have been thinking about, being white/european descent, is it a loss if I cant find a good america white girl to have kids with, as compared to say someone of mixed descent like spain, or mexico or asia?
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I occasionally run into seemingly nice American girls under thirty. They may be plain to pretty, slim, but rarely “hot.” They exist.
As to having a child with a non-White woman, you have to ask yourself of you can love a child that doesn’t look like your family. It works for some White men but not for all. And then there is his identity to consider.
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@Erudite Knight, you’re seeking the approval of men on some internet site, men that you will never meet. Of course you can’t get quality white American women. lol
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“of course, the nerds at Cbs are going to have to deballz him to make him consummate his relationship”
It could be argued that what makes him alpha is that he has to be made to consummate his relationship.
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it’s the ultimate long sell…
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Yes…although I do think, in this case, Amy was right to back away.
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The most important trait for being alpha, in my opinion and the opinions of some men with game I know, is simply not giving a shit. Don’t give a shit about what others think and if you’re passionate even about boring things and if your IQ isn’t below room temperature, you will be able to sell the crap you do. It will also help you with being dismissive towards shit tests and inane things.
e.g. if I was an accountant and I was asked what’s my profession I’d say that in order to understand what I do, you must understand how numbers relate to the world around us. If I was having a walk with a girl, I’d explain how if aliens were looking at our planet in billions of years from now, they would see us having this walk. And we know this because of math and that in the same way astrophysicists find these things out about our universe, I do the same for the business world. When I look at the balance sheets of a company, I can tell how much effort goes in the production of various elements that end up in consumer products.
Then I’d go back to the astrophysics and ask her what does she think the aliens would think of us if they were watching. And after she replies, I’d get her hand in mine and either joke that we need to make a better impression on the aliens or go on a tangent to get her to imagine herself in the scenario I’d come up based on our situation. Of course, all of this would happen after some negging and teasing because I stopped making the stupid mistake of doing rapport before attraction. That’s if she wasn’t stupid. If she was, I’d come up with a dumbed down version of this or something else(e.g. I’d tell her that I’m a detective of sorts and joke about it before I’d come up with a short story about how accountants are the detectives of the business world).
Not being an accountant, I came up with this on the spot, but it surely beats saying the ‘oh, my profession isn’t that interesting, I’m an accountant. So what do you do?’.
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Also, if I’m asked what I do before it’s in my interest to say what I do I’d simply tease her about being a gold digger if she’s so curious about such materialistic things so soon.
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Good advice, PWN. I know my job revolves around numbers too, and I often think of various, creative ways to make my job sound mysterious. It’s fun.
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I’m unemployed. How do I sell that?
[CH: maybe stop trolling like a sperz (sperg + spaz) and pay attention to the lessons taught here.]
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Damn man if you spent half the time working on starting a business or even at a minimum buying shit off craigslist for cheap and reselling it on ebay – you might have some money and a life.
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I thought similar things, as I watched the movie.
LOLZLOLZLOZLOLZ
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“Can I eat?”
“I dunno, give it a try.” 😆
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The 80’s – In shop class – they don’t have those anymore – the shop teacher pulled the old, finger drill in the chest of a cocky mouthy kid and called him out.. LOL. Kid shit his pants.
Also had a teacher throw a friggen desk across the room at a kid. ranted at him about growing up in a “lily white” neighborhood. That guy was a nut. and he was a music teacher. LOL.
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good story. back then even the music teachers were badasses…lol.
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Where are in such a postmodern world that films like these are being shown in current films in order to pad their run time and earn some type of street cred.
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Movies are the modern mythos. We can’t use archetypes from the distant past as we used to (Gaia, Ouranos, Heracles, Achilles), now that the past has been deconstructed, quantified, dissected, and demystified.
Instead we turn to the future, specifically science fiction, which cannot be deconstructed because it hasn’t happened yet. Magic and the supernatural are replaced by technological fantasizing and “mutant” superpowers. (Cf. Arthur Clarke’s famous saying about technology and magic.)
The new myths’ function is exactly the same as the old myths’: personifying lessons about human nature in story form, since we identify with people more than abstract concepts, and narratives are easier than treatise or polemic or philosophy.
Except — the classical myths were conjured by masters and tested by the ages, whereas ours are penned by insecure nerds with a soft-left understanding of the human.
Matt
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Speaking of myths, here is something,
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Major Gay Marriage Study Was Fabricated, Author Admits
A study purporting to show that people’s views on gay marriage could change simply by meeting gay people has been retracted following revelations that its data was fabricated.
The study was published last December in Science, and prior to publication drew a great deal of attention from the American media. Vox, for instance, described the findings in the study as “kind of miraculous.” As it turns out, that’s exactly what they were, because they were apparently made up.
http://dailycaller.com/2015/05/20/major-gay-marriage-study-was-fabricated-author-admits/?print=1
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Never trust leftoids. Ever.
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You need to google “Rabid Puppies”/”Sad Puppies”. A reaction has started in the SciFi field because the Hugo awards have become utter carp. A winner in recent years? “If you were a dinosaur, my love”. I kid you not. Between the sjws and pedophiles (hard to tell which is a subset of the other sometimes) they have almost destroyed the genre. But there is the beginning of a revolt by the politically incorrect, the people who appreciate the traditional mythos and incorporate the understanding of it into their worldview instead of vilifying it and praising deviancy in its many forms like the sjws do.
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Campbell is a hack. Just another postmodern deconstructionist applying positivism to everything that came before him. The result is bemused nihilism, which you seem to personally reflect in all things. That professor is even worse, with his confusion of “myth” and “mythology.” You need better teachers. GIGO.
“Myth” is not synonymous with falsity. Myths are high-level parables that explain otherwise inaccessible abstractions to illiterate audiences. Only a dullard like Campbell would fixate on the literal meaning of the tales and point out the obvious as if it were revelation.
Not even ancient peasants believed in the literal truth of these narratives. What clueless postmodern arrogance.
In any event, I appreciate your attempt to find common ground. But you have to be better than this. Keep searching.
Matt
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Yes, Bender was the cool one. Not a typical “leader of men” as some understand Alphas to be. But a lot of men like that are more suited to leadership in tribal warfare and combat situations, not in soft, pussified consumer societies.
In generational terms Bender was the rebellious Boomer, Brian and Claire typical Gen X, and Allison the proto-Millennial. Andrew seemed like a repressed homosexualist.
OT: a close relative of mine dated Anthony Michael Hall in Manhattan in the 1990s. He was having all kinds of problems and would show up drunk at her Union Square apartment after midnight until she had security ban him.
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Speaking of guys growing into their looks as they get older, here is AMH… So HS geeks take note.
was also youngest ever cast member on SNL at 17 and was cast by Kubrik as the lead in Full Metal Jacket but couldn’t get a deal done.
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Still partying…
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and PS – AMH was dating Molly “It Girl” Ringwald during the filming of TBC…
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Better Bender
[CH: i’d bet futurama bender was based on tbc bender. or inspired by him.]
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I disagree. Maybe it’s just Judd Nelsons performance but he always seemed really cringingly try-hard to me.
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he’s still just a kid. remember he wasn’t so tough when the principle said he’s going to kick his ass the minute he graduates.
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Also, he goads the wrestler (from the safety of the classroom, and knowing Esteves doesn’t want to ruin his chances for a scholarship), but never quite has the stones to lock horns… what we used to call “all blow and no go”.
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wrestler kicked his ass…but then he pulls a knife once fight’s broken up.
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I guess it’s been too long since I saw it… I don’t remember them actually coming to blows. Then again, I can’t say I paid full attention when I did see it.
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He merely made him look like a fish, didn’t throw a single punch.
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Yeah, not only that, but he looked downright scared when the teacher took his ass into the other room and had a little chat with him:
Bender was a scared little boy pretending to be an alpha, that was the whole point of the character.
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Claire: “Are all these your girlfriends?”
Bender: “Some I consider girlfriends, some I just consider.”
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“Talkin bbbb-bout my generation”
Nostalgia. Think I’m gonna go listen to the love theme from St. Elmo’s Fire.
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Don’t forget the John Parr song! That shit’s epic!
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Man In Motion. I play it when psyching up for difficult sets (weights, I mean).
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I’ve got that song in my workout playlist as well.
That, and Joe Esposito’s “You’re The Best” from that instaclassic, The Karate Kid.
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Do you remember that song when the Cobra Kai are heading down to the beach on their motorbikes? I used to always wanna hear the whole thing. Thanks to youtube I finally have. What a letdown. The only good bit is the part that was heard in the movie (1:10-1:17 in the link). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RtxmvDwT9cc
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I almost forgot about that song. You’re right, only those first several seconds are good.
While we’re at it. . .
What about the immortal Marc Safan’s Win In The End from that little film that could, Teen Wolf!
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Scroop – better than that by a mile – try Rainbow’s “Power”. Ritchie Blackmoor may have been a pain in the ass, but played a mean guitar and had front men like Ronnie James Dio singing lead. Another great song would “Day of the Eagle” by Robben Trower. The metal today wishes they were half as hardcore AND skilled as those guys.
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I WANT MY CHILDHOOD BACK!!!!!
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HARDBODIES!!
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Rick Astley “Never Gonna Give You Up”, The Bangles “Walk Like an Egyptian”, Gloria Estefan & MSM “Conga”, The Cure “Close to Me”, The Cars “You Might Think I’m Crazy”, and of course the great white theme song of the greatest decade of our lives:
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Good God Almighty, I MISS BIG HAIR!!! Chicks with BIG HAIR just melt my freaking heart, man. BRING BACK BIG HAIR!!!!!
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Bring back BUSH.
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My deep dark far-edges-of-memory recollection is that Kelly LeBrock showed a very brief flash of BUSH in The Woman in Red. In her prime, Kelly LeBrock was way out around 9.95 territory, trending towards a mythical perfect 10.
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Geez, relax on the YouTube postings… how many times do you guys have to be told that they bring the threads to a churning crawl?
😡
Can’t keep anything nice around here.
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F*ck you. It’s the 80s. Don’t try to f*ck with my memories. It was the last time we had a president who even tried to pretend to give a d*mn about this country. And the last time that real men were allowed to act on television or in the movies. Before GHWB 41 squandered it all away [almost overnight], and Evil Psychiatry shut it all down once and for all with the ascension of Bubba & H!tlery in January of 1993.
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My favorite TV theme song is sung by the venerable Lee Majors of the show he starred in, The Fall Guy!
Heather Thomas for the win. (Markie Post had the body; hair, not so much.)
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I’d never heard that song before. Just listened to it. When he sings “wiiiiiin in the end” for some reason reminds me of part of the cult-priest’s chant in Eyes Wide Shut.
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That reply was to Mendoza’s Win In The End/Teen Wolf post.
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What’s cool at 16 is usually very pathetic when 35… jes’ sayin’.
And I’ve got room to talk…
I was pretty much that Judd Nelson character in high school, mostly because of a move from where I grew up… where I had numerous friends, a band, A/B grades, three letters in sports, the whole works that most junior high/high schoolers could wish for… and suddenly being “the new guy” in an area that was, shall we say, not quite as cosmopolitan from whence I came. Rebel without a cause on steroids, circa early seventies.
Sure, I killed with the girls and hung with the “cool” tough guys… but academics fell by the wayside and after graduation, if it wasn’t for a brush with the law and my joining the Army, I was heading for a life of minimum wage drudgery and/or half-assed criminality, like many of my erstwhile chums.
Luckily, whether from good upbringing that finally willed out, or just plain common sense, the Army and afterwards college, courtesy of the GI Bil, set me back on the path to righteousness… and riches, if I do say so myself.
Said erstwhile chums, on the rare occasion I ran into or heard about one or two of them some years later, were either in jail, rehab, or working whatever miserable job they could manage to hold down… and the women they had in tow were likewise hollow husks of former high school glory.
As Scripture says, when manhood arrives, it’s time to put away childish things.
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“As Scripture says, when manhood arrives, it’s time to put away childish things.”
+1!
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The movies are fun though… they have such outcomes as:
The senator and Mrs. Blutarsky.
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wise words
+100
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My life pattern is sort of executing the reverse.
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Touche’
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Hahaha
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True story. Much of the examples are to illustrate the tactics attitude as lesson, but a lot of the n00bs are going to think, ok I should act like him. No wrong. You’ll come off as a d-bag and a-hole. The key is to integrate some of these lessons into you own specific personality/game. Hence my hate for the notion of James Bond game. The notion someone would go from basement dweller to James Bone is asinine. The lessons here meant to integrate into your own specific game, whatever it is.
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“swkstudent, you can’t later rationalize your love for a jerk by insisting that deep down he’s not an asshole unless you first know he’s an asshole.”
The other side of this coin is the religious insistence that nice guys are really jerks in disguise, because that’s easier on the hamster than simply admitting they prefer jerks. Seems like this canard is everywhere these days.
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Indeed. Makes for a different feeling when she wistfully says “you’re such a nice guy …” (Google translates this to ‘I hate you, asshole’).
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as i a new reader, i’d just like to say that your articles are gold.
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What a coincidence. I was going to use the enigmatic Judd Nelson in Breakfast Club as an example of what I was a bit like in high school in my intro post on the other thread, but Judd gets the girls which is something I never did. I was also more intellectual and not as constantly angry and moody, and I didn’t dress as rebelliously. Still, people kept away from me, not because I was so tough, but I would definitely snap at people without much reason. Also my defences were always up, always suspicious of everyone’s motives. Maybe four times all throughout high school a girl tried to get close to me to “figure me out,” but I never gave in, suspecting her mission was to find out something about me and use it against me to humiliate me. Looking back, it’s more likely the girl was genuinely intrigued.
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Finally got to rewatch The Grass is Greener, a Cary Grant and Deborah Kerr movie about (this time) an affair to forget.
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CH,
Have you seen The Ghost and Mrs. Muir? Great film. Solid performances by Rex Harrison and the ever lovely, angelic Gene Tierney.
Harrison plays a ghost of a sea captain that lingers in his old house that Gene Tierney and her daughter have just rented. Later, she meets a beau and while Harrison warns her about the cad, she doesn’t listen. There’s more to it, but I don’t want to give too much.
Great film and as always, they definitely do not make them like that anymore. (For fun, it’d be great to hear ideas of a modern-day remake!)
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a good read, where it all started
http://www.darkmoon.me/2013/the-sexual-decadence-of-weimar-germany-by-lasha-darkmoon/
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TBC was written, produced, and directed by John Hughes a real hollywood conservative. I always loved his films. Frequently his main protagonists are cocky funny jerk boys (with a heart of gold) who game the system to their advantage and turn up their nose at Politically Correct conventions.
Ferris Bueller is another great cocky/funny character with an Alpha attitude.
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“written, produced, and directed by John Hughes”
his films have not aged well at all. boring first 5 minutes, pacing issues, unnatural dialogue, preposterous third acts, on the nose sub plots going for emotional impact
he hits us over the head with a message but the message isn’t even well defined.
one of the most overrated writer directors of his generation. in people’s memories the films are “classics” but going back to watch them again is torture.
haven’t watched tbc in 15 years but from what I remember bender doesn’t nail claire or even finger her or get a bj or anything and doesn’t he put her earring in his ear like a super beta and then jump into the air because he’s so excited she talked to him?
if bender was super alpha jerk boy he should have had two hb freshman waiting for him in the parking lot counting down the minutes until he was out of detention.
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Speaking of movies, I think CH would do well with a piece on how Maggie Gyllenhal is considered too old, at 37, to portray the lover of a 55 year old man.
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Its prolly because she looks more like she’s 55 herself. Seriously. She went from OK to just plain yuck real quick
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I don’t know…to me she always looked horrible. Never got the attraction.
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Why Professors Should Never Have Affairs With Their Students
It’s not about affecting professional distance. It’s about not wallowing in clichés.
Q : And this offends you because of your Jewish faith?
A : No it offends me as an aging Professor of Creative Writing!
http://www.slate.com/articles/life/roiphe/2015/05/why_professors_should_never_have_affairs_with_their_students_what_could.html
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The very first sentence: “I’ve been feeling exhausted by the number of male professors I know who’ve had, or tried to have, affairs with their students.”
OK, so that’s pretty much where I stopped. It’s a bitchfest, right?
First of all, we all know female professors (or high school teachers) are obviously above that sort of thing. Just look in the news.
Then there are the women students who complain bitterly about the prof ensuring there is no possibility for hanky panky, by keeping the office door open or even having a chaperone in the room when female students visit. Why would they do that when a woman never makes false accusations, you patriarchal shitloooooooords?
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The yenta feels exhausted by it all… she, the authoress of In Praise Of Messy Lives. lzlzozlzolzol
The comedy continues to write itself.
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Yet another yenta… meh.
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Try again from 5/11
was at a sporting event recently. Lots of outside bars in tents etc. Lots of women milling about, lots of drinking. Was with a white knight buddy. great guy but white knight to the core – even though he is pretty alpha in a lot of ways. So I am in a good mood, but have to keep flirtation on a low boil with him around babysitting me. some flirting with women, at one point I am laughing and joking with a 7 and I put my arm on her bare shoulder. she is laughing.. we stroll off. He later says “man you assaulted that girl”. I’m like you can’t be serious, he says, “you touched her”. I cracked up and rolled my eyes.
Later he is busy doing something, I am getting a drink. 21 YO bartender, 5’5 and maybe 105 lbs. Very slim. My type for sure. We are bantering. I see her wrist has a tattoo on it and she sees me look. she goes into “oh you saw that, it was a mistake”. I look at her and pull her skinny arm over and look at her wrist, tracing the outline of her quarter size tattoo, “what the hell is this supposed to be?” I ask her. she laughs and says a friend did it, it was a rebellious phase. I keep tracing it and laser eyeing. Then break contact. we chat – blah blah. She is in town for the event and new job she just travels from event to event with this company. So I tease her about a young girl on the road stuff. she comes from deep backwoods OH.
So I notice the vibe is growing and she keeps coming out from behind the bar and walking 15 feet or so past me to a garbage bin to do stuff like throw out a single napkin, or a single can of beer. So I know she is doing this for my benefit, so I can look at her. I comment on her build and ask if she dances as she walks by me again. she gives me the over the shoulder look and says no but everyone asks that. So as she comes back to me i say “come here” and put my hand out. she gives me her hand and I give her the PUA spin LOL and she lights up “whoa!” and laughs and I say she moves pretty good even though she is not a dancer, while pulling her in closer. she giggles and scurries behind the bar again. Between the infrequent customers we continue to banter.
She comes over close over the bar, I have both hands spread out past shoulder width on the bar, laser eyeing. she puts her head down but lifts her eyes to mine, a very submissive and alluring posture and then motions with her eyes to my left hand… “soooooo… Is your wife here?” I laugh and say “Oh you noticed my jewelry” and say “nah she is home” and now she is more coyly saying, “well what would she say about us talking…” I say “that doesn’t concern her now does it” and move to try and set something up for later with her. It becomes clear though that she is a No Married Guys girl and I realize I am negotiating with her about meeting up later. So I cut it off, lightheartedly, say I need to go catch up with my buddy. She says well come back she has this same spot all weekend.. blah blah.
I need to get some better game on these no married guys girls… More preparation, because 50% of the time they don’t care or ask, 25% of the time it’s a straight up turn on and that 25% of the time where they are interested but won’t budge… that surprises me and I fumble…
Thoughts from the collected?
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CH – mod release?
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I’m sure Sausage Within has this issue…
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Billy Dee bonus put it over the top. lzlzozlzozlzozlzozlozlozlozozlozozlozlozl
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Billy Dee Williams ended up shucking Colt 45 from his car down at the park.
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I agree
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Can CH dedicate post to ” music to lift by?”
I refuse to use a clock when working out and All the stuff I listen to is from other people.
Summer is coming and its time to get cut the fuck up…
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“sailing the seas of Claire’s beaver brine.”
(Double) Primus reference?
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The “Milton flirting with Maryann” scene in “Devil’s Advocate” is a good one.
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I forgot how good some of his dialogue with Claire was.
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A lot of people here are missing the point, even our esteemed blogger.. I haven’t seen the movie, mostly because just about anything out of Hollywood these days is blue pill, but from CH”s description there’s no way the guy in the movie is an alpha.
He’s a gamma or omega. Maybe a low level beta. No alpha or well adjusted beta would tolerate a woman who wears lipstick. No woman worth an LTR would wear it. This should be an absolutely non-negotiable deal breaker..
It’s an artificial “enhancement” that’s designed to appeal to female vanity and to fool men on the coarsest level. Any woman who wears It is showing low SMV, serious self esteem problems, and a complete lack of respect for the guy.’s ability to tell the real from the artificial. The only reason the scene could be in the movie is either to sell lipstick, or to appeal to female hypergamy–to make her thing that if she paints her lips she’ll get a marginally higher guy, wen it actually shows she’s delusional.
If you want to see alphas in movies you’re best off looking at something that’s more than 50 years old. There might be an exception here and there, but if you don’t know where to look among anything made after the early 1960’s or so, there’s no percentage in trying to find it. You’d be better off sticking with John Wayne or Errol Flynn or even Leo Gorcey..
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Lipstick: our great social menace.
Though it should be said there was a time when ‘painted ladies’ meant whores, plain and simple. It’s been a while since then though.
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Lipstick: our great social menace.
I thought Willie’s post failed even as a Matt King impersonation, but are you telling me belief this actually forms part of the red pill mythos?
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No.
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Scroop, It’s not just part of the red pill ethos/mythos. It’s one the major parts of it. If you haven’t grasped that yet it’s because you have, as yet, an incomplete understanding. Keep striving and keep learning. You’ll do fine. You just have to iron out the rough spots. Your future is still ahead of you.
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Lipstick? We’re talking about lipstick?
Any woman who sets foot outside her parents house before being betrothed is unworthy of anything more than a pity f*ck. That’s red pill ethos.
Step up your game Willie
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“Step up your game Willie”
Right. That’s good advice for all of us.
And since you mention it, stepping up your game is why I’m saying to avoid women who splash paint on their faces,
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You should have stopped at “I haven’t seen the movie.”
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Keep talking playa… I feel you…
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That’s your post?
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Perhaps this is why bull-dyke lesbians overhype domestic violence?
http://www.putslab.psu.edu/pdfs/Li%20et%20al%202014%20PLoS%20ONE.pdf
Women’s Preference for Masculine Traits Is Disrupted by Images of Male-on-Female Aggression
Women’s preferences for men’s masculinized faces and voices were assessed after women (n = 331) were primed with images of male-on-male aggression, male-on-female aggression, pathogens, and neutral scenes. Male-on-male aggression and pathogen primes were associated with increased preference for masculine traits, but the same effect emerged in the neutral condition. We show the increased preference for masculine traits was due to repeated exposure to these traits, not the priming images themselves. Images of male-on-female aggression were an exception; these elicited feelings of disgust
and anger appeared to disrupt the preference for masculinized traits. The results suggest women process men’s facial and vocal traits as signals of aggressive potential and lose any preference for these traits with cues indicating men might direct this aggression toward them.
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I think Charlie Sheen mopped the floor with his competition for the cooler-than-cool/alpha/jerkboy prize as his unnamed character from “Ferris Bueller’s Day Off”:
Best part:
Charlie: “You didn’t tell me your name.”
Jennifer: “Oh, It…It’s Jean…but…a lotta, a lotta guys call me Shauna.”
Charlie: “OK, Jean.”
Tingle atom bomb for a chick…
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I was going to post this as well. I use to fall in fear to the absolute nuclear bitchiness of Jean and to see her so bedazzled minutes later with a guy she seemed to loathe…it never clicked to me. I never got it until I was 36 years old and divorced…scratching my head. Now I find it a PERFECT example of what CH is preaching. Gold!
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Hackett – I had just met this girl, first date and she asked me what I thought of [stupid girl name] and I ridiculed it, really made fun of it. she gets frosty and says well I am thinking of changing my name to that. and then I just cracked up in her face – no apology, no remorse. We had sex later that night.
We were married 18 months later… LOL Beware guys…
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In honor of great scenes of game in the movies I have to give a special shout out to the official start of the summer of game, Memorial Day Weekend. Summer offers the promise of endless possibilities and is a game reset button. I am sure many in the Chateau can speak to the experience of arguably the most exciting arena of game, the coed summer shore house. In the car with the windows down, music up, that giddy flash of anxiety that hits the moment you smell the salty air, it’s too late now. Here it comes.
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Summer shore house co-eds, if memory serves, are like shooting fish in a barrel… it’s like walking into a woman’s prison with a fistful of pardons.
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I still think this is the best John Hughes alpha jerk movie scene:
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Matt damon on elevator in the departed is always a solid movie pick up scene:
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OT: Last night as I was heading into the store for another bottle of gin, a little old lady came up to me in the street, gave me a big smile, and said I have swagger. Made me laugh. At least she didn’t say I had pimp walk.
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“Why aren’t there more of him, then?”
Compared to the wrestler he is a weakling, compared to the vice principal he is a coward, and the police haven’t always been around to protect him from the consequences of insulting a better men.
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“He’s a gamma or omega. Maybe a low level beta. No alpha or well adjusted beta would tolerate a woman who wears lipstick. No woman worth an LTR would wear it. This should be an absolutely non-negotiable deal breaker..”
Sometimes the insanity on the internet makes me angry, sometimes it amuses me. This was a case of the latter…
Thanks.
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Disneys Frozen where he pushes her feet off the Sleigh, that part always stuck out for me .
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=S6j4qcD1fe4
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It was really only a matter of time before the Chateau would focus on John Bender of ‘The Breakfast Club’.
John Bender , brilliantly played by Judd Nelson (who was 26 at the time of shooting), easily ranks alongside Marlon Brando in ‘The Wild One’ and James Dean in ‘Rebel Without A Cause’ as one of the great cinema badboys, arguably the best of all because of his gritty suburban realism. It is deplorable that Nelson was not at least nominated for an Oscar for his performance and if he does no other work of note, ‘The Breakfast Club’ remains an outstanding achievement of his.
‘The Breakfast Club’ is John Hughes’s best film with a completeness that his other great work, ‘Ferris Bueller’s Day Off’, slightly lacks. What both films share is an enigmatic and deeply charismatic central character around whom the rest of the film orbits. ‘Ferris Bueller’s Day Off’ lacks the ensemble quality of script or performance of ‘The Breakfast Club’ and is also more of a straightforward fantasy (with it being generally accepted that Ferris Bueller is Cameron’s alter-ego, the man who the trapped and frustrated Cameron wants to be). Ferris Bueller is a far less likeable character than John Bender and, although no high-school bowsie like Bender would, in real life, possess the wit and articulacy that Nelson’s character has, this is no shortcoming of the film – it is, as the Chateau points out, a fantasy.
John Bender has an advantage over the characters played by Brando and Dean because, if for no other reason, ‘The Breakfast Club’ has a higher production standard than those films of the 1950’s and, as such, it is easier to watch. By the time John Hughes came around to the height of his career a more liberal attitude and practice had entered mainstream cinema allowing ‘The Breakfast Club’ to use explicit language and themes which would not have been considered in the 1950’s.
In terms of finding alpha moments, ‘The Breakfast Club’ has probably one of the richest repositories of such of any mainstream film. Bender spends nearly all of the film pissing off Princess Claire (Molly Ringwald) but the sexual tension between them grows incrementally and it becomes more and more obvious that Bender has seriously burrowed into her psyche – hear those tingles chime. When Brian interrupts their sexy ‘Moliere’ moment, Bender flings a damaged book at him in rage, but the sexual frisson is unmistakable.
As interesting is the vicious rivalry between Bender and Andrew Clarke (played by Emilio Estevez), the straight and serious beta jock who initially hits on Claire but gets politely declined.
Here’s why ‘The Breakfast Club’ is such a hit – it depicts the three levels of existence:-
Alpha: Bender and Claire
Beta: Andrew / Sporto and Alison / Emo (and they end up getting it on together by the end. Classic beta – Andrew doesn’t get alpha girl and has to settle).
Omega: Brian (who ends up getting nobody).
In that regard it is wrong to describe Brian as the beta nice-guy – Brian is the omega, while Andrew is the beta. Brian knows that he has no chance with an alpha female like Claire and can only fantasise, as Bender exposes him for doing, to his even greater shame. Andrew is not a nice-guy as such but he is a beta insofar as he is committed to conforming and playing within the system. Also his particular type of beta-dom manifests as butt-hurt and bitter rather than ‘nice-guy’. Remember that Brian ended up in detention for having a gun in his locker because he wanted to commit suicide. Andrew ended up in detention because he attacked a weaker boy in the locker room, very likely a subconscious manifestation of his frustration at having been pushed into an athletic lifestyle, to get a scholarship, that he did not want. Indeed, Bender makes a laugh of this scholarship nonsense during the film when he arses around in the gym and is taunting the deputy principal. This is another instance of Bender’s alpha-dom – he has taken a hit for the group by distracting the deputy principal (a great performance from Paul Gleason) while he lays on cannabis for the rest of the group (and see how that would go down in today’s America … !) As an alpha, the young prince is bestowing his weed upon the minions.
This film was released in 1985 and I remember that it made a huge impression upon us over here in Ireland – we were amazed to see how short Judd Nelson really is in real life (the photography had hidden this very well). At the time I was twelve, attending a bourgeois Roman catholic all-boys’ secondary school in Dublin, and Bender was like something from the space age, the man we all wanted to be, or to have like us. In hindsight our school was a deeply damaging environment of papist omega-dom and, in particular, our form teacher was a disgusting omega worm – unmarried, he spent his whole life in the school, engaged in the various ‘activities’ that seem to obsess such places and he boasted of how he had devoted himself to the “welfare of the boys” (* crickets *). I hated him from the start and it is interesting to recall that the other John Bender types at school felt the same way, and wanted nothing to do with him. That school was no proper environment for any impressionable teenage boy and it is significant that I felt the same way then as I do now, in my forties. As a place where adolescents could be moulded to cope with the realities of life it was hopeless and was no example for any boy.
Ultimately John Bender will always be a fantasy character, as the Chateau freely admits, but his defiance remains as inspirational and relevant today as ever before, leaving ‘The Breakfast Club’ as one of the greatest teen movies of all time.
***** OTHER NEWS:-
Social meltdown has hit Ireland. There is a level of social unrest across middle Ireland, across the type of people who would never cause trouble in their wildest dreams, that is unprecedented. There is a particular type of person who, when they become angry, release all hell. It’s not entering the mainstream media of the UK or North America, because the powers that be are too scared. When Ireland explodes it will take the rest of the world with it – it’s begun.
Look up “Irish Water” and “Irish Water protests”.
Bring the flames …
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In other news, the brazenness of turds knows no boundaries. They came to your home, eat your food, rape your wife and kids, and troll you hard:
“Amsterdam (AFP) – Faced with an increasingly segregated education system, Dutch immigrant children have taken to the streets of their ethnically mixed Amsterdam neighbourhood seeking “white” pupils to attend their schools and help their integration.
Around 100 schoolchildren — Arabs, Turks, Africans, Moroccans — accompanied by their parents and teachers, wore provocative dazzling white T-shirts emblazoned with “Is this white enough for you?”
http://news.yahoo.com/dutch-immigrant-kids-street-demanding-white-classmates-071506783.html
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