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The Atlantic Accepts The Heartiste Theory Of Jerkboy Charisma

May 22, 2015 by CH

Ah, dat jerkboy charisma. Chicks dig it. If you’ve been a regular guest of the Chateau, you’ll know why chicks dig jerks, and you’ll know why cultivating your inner jerkboy is a pillar of Game teachings.

For a long time, CH was out there, a retreat in the deep wood willing to preach the Rude Word to any lost and yearning soul stumbling along the stony path leading to the ancient oak doors. Few knew of our secretive hideaway, fewer still could grasp the revolutionary nature of our message.

But our mischievous proselytizing has finally breached the sound barrier of the mainstream information gatekeepers (and from the reaction to their first line of defense crumbling, they don’t like it). As one reader who forwarded the following article wrote,

The substance of this article will present no surprises.  The tone of the author, apologetic and disturbed by the findings, will also present no surprises.

Not at all. The Atlantic is the latest Hivemind organ to hate itself for falling in love with Le Chateau.

Why It Pays to Be a Jerk

New research confirms what they say about nice guys.

The suspense is killing me! I hope it lasts.

At the University of Amsterdam, researchers have found that semi-obnoxious behavior not only can make a person seem more powerful, but can make them more powerful, period. The same goes for overconfidence. Act like you’re the smartest person [ed: or sexiest man] in the room, a series of striking studies demonstrates, and you’ll up your chances of running the show.

The Atlantic agrees with CH that overconfidence is the heart of game.

People will even pay to be treated shabbily: snobbish, condescending salespeople at luxury retailers extract more money from shoppers than their more agreeable counterparts do.

Seduction is the art of selling yourself to women. And just as it is in the realm of business sales, snobbish, entitled jerkboys are the most successful at selling their promise of pleasures to women.

“We believe we want people who are modest, authentic, and all the things we rate positively” to be our leaders, says Jeffrey Pfeffer, a business professor at Stanford. “But we find it’s all the things we rate negatively”—like immodesty—“that are the best predictors of higher salaries or getting chosen for a leadership position.”

Humans aren’t a rational species; they’re a rationalizing species.

“What happens if you put a python and a chicken in a cage together?,” Pfeffer asked him. The former student looked lost. “Does the python ask what kind of chicken it is? No. The python eats the chicken.”

“You’re like a big bear with claws and with fangs…and she’s just like this little bunny, who’s just kinda cowering in the corner.”

But, careful… all jerk and no softie makes Jack a d-bag.

In Grant’s framework, the mentor in this story would be classified as a “taker,” which brings us to a major complexity in his findings. Givers dominate not only the top of the success ladder but the bottom, too, precisely because they risk exploitation by takers.

All well and good. You can’t expect to lord it over all the people all the time without attention given to your reception. However… if you HAD to choose between being a niceguy and a 24/7 asshole…

ALWAYS CHOOSE ASSHOLE. To wit:

Consider the following two scenes. In the first, a man takes a seat at an outdoor café in Amsterdam, carefully examines the menu before returning it to its holder, and lights a cigarette. When the waiter arrives to take his order, he looks up and nods hello. “May I have a vegetarian sandwich and a sweet coffee, please?” he asks. “Thank you.”

In the second, the same man takes the same seat at the same outdoor café in Amsterdam. He puts his feet up on an adjoining seat, taps his cigarette ashes onto the ground, and doesn’t bother putting the menu back into its holder. “Uh, bring me a vegetarian sandwich and a sweet coffee,” he grunts, staring past the waiter into space. He crushes the cigarette under his shoe.

Dutch researchers staged and filmed each scene as part of a 2011 study designed to examine “norm violations.” Research stretching back to at least 1972 had shown that power corrupts, or at least disinhibits. High-powered people are more likely to take an extra cookie from a common plate, chew with their mouths open, spread crumbs, stereotype, patronize, interrupt, ignore the feelings of others, invade their personal space, and claim credit for their contributions. “But we also thought it could be the other way around,” Gerben van Kleef, the study’s lead author, told me. He wanted to know whether breaking rules could help people ascend to power in the first place.

Yes, he found. The norm-violating version of the man in the video was, in the eyes of viewers, more likely to wield power than his politer self. And in a series of follow-up studies involving different pairs of videos, participants, responding to prompts, made statements such as “I would like this person as my boss” and “I would give this person a promotion.”

“I would open my legs for this jerk.”

Ok, if being a jerkboy is so personally rewarding, the inevitable question follows,

Instead of asking why some people bully or violate norms, researchers are asking: Why doesn’t everyone? […]

“That’s a complexity of humans,” Faris says: it was not until after the human-chimpanzee split that Homo sapiens developed a newer, uniquely human path to power. Scholars call it “prestige.”

There are different kinds of ways to project power (and consequently arouse women). “Prestige” is better-known to students of Game as Demonstrating Higher Value.

The Atlantic even goes so far to wonder if the Game axiom “Fake it till you create it” is a real thing:

I did wonder, though: Could the apprentice actors [tasked with acting irrationally confident], given enough time, come to inhabit their roles more fully? Anderson noted that self-delusion among his study’s participants could have been the product of earlier behaviors. “Maybe they faked it until they made it and that became them.” We are what we repeatedly do, as Aristotle observed.

Ripped from the Chateau headlines.

In fact, it’s easy to see how an initial advantage derived from a lack of self-awareness, or from a deliberate attempt to fake competence, or from a variety of other, similar heelish behaviors could become permanent. Once a hierarchy emerges, the literature shows, people tend to construct after-the-fact rationalizations about why those in charge should be in charge.

“Once a woman falls hard for a charming jerkboy, she tends to construct after-the-fact rationalizations about why the jerk she loves should be her soulmate.”

Likewise, the experience of power leads people to exhibit yet more power-signaling behaviors (displaying aggressive body language, taking extra cookies from the common plate).

Success with women breeds more success with women.

It is possible, of course, to reframe Anderson’s conclusions so that, for instance, initiative is itself a competence, in which case groups would be selecting their leaders more rationally than he supposes. But is a loudmouth the same thing as a leader?

aka the “bustamove” theory of Game.

So what is that special sauce that jerkboys have which flavors a woman’s life? Or anyone’s life?

When I thought about whether I had friends or associates who fit Aaron James’s definition of an asshole, I could come up with two. I couldn’t pinpoint why I spent time with them, other than the fact that life seemed larger, grander—like the world was a little more at your feet—when they were around.

“I want more LIFE, fucker!”

Then I thought of the water skis.

Some friends had rented a powerboat. We had already taken it out on the water when someone remarked, above the engine noise, that it was too bad we didn’t have any water skis. That would have been fun.

Within a few minutes, an acquaintance I will call Jordan had the boat pulled up to a dock where a boy of maybe 8 or 9 was alone. Do you have any water skis?

The boy seemed unprepared for the question. Not really, he said. There might be some in storage, but only his parents would know. Well, would you be a champ and run back to the house and ask them? The boy did not look like he wanted to. But he did.

The rest of us in the boat shared the boy’s astonishment (Who asks that sort of question?), his reluctance to turn a nominally polite encounter into a disagreeable one, and perhaps the same paralysis: no one said anything to stop the exchange. But that’s the thing. Spend time with the Jordans of the world and you’re apt to get things you are not entitled to—the choice table at the overbooked restaurant, the courtside tickets you’d never ask for yourself—without ever having to be the bad guy. The transgression was Jordan’s. The spoils were the group’s.

The transgression is the jerkboy’s. The romantic spoils are the women’s.

Isolating the effects of taker behavior on group welfare is exactly what van Kleef, the Dutch social psychologist, and fellow researchers set out to do in their coffee-pot study of 2012.

At first blush, the study seems simple. Two people are told a cover story about a task they’re going to perform. One of them—a male confederate used in each pair throughout the study—steals coffee from a pot on a researcher’s desk. What effect does his stealing have on the other person’s willingness to put him in charge?

The answer: It depends. If he simply steals one cup of coffee for himself, his power affordance shrinks slightly. If, on the other hand, he steals the pot and pours cups for himself and the other person, his power affordance spikes sharply. People want this man as their leader.

Women want to join a jerk’s world because they want to be taken on a mutually satisfying adventure.

I related this to Adam Grant. “What about the person who gets resources for the group without stealing coffee?” he asked. “That’s a comparison I would like to see.”

It was a comparison, actually, that van Kleef had run. When the man did just that—poured coffee for the other person without stealing it—his ratings collapsed. Massively. He became less suited for leadership, in the eyes of others, than any other version of himself.

If you’re nothing but a niceguy, people will come to despise you because you will be giving away your generosity as if it was worthless.

[C]ould rudeness cause other people to open their wallets too?

The answer was a qualified yes. When it came to “aspirational” brands like Gucci, Burberry, and Louis Vuitton, participants were willing to pay more in a scenario in which they felt rejected. But the qualifications were major. A customer had to feel a longing for the brand, and if the salesperson did not look the image the brand was trying to project, condescension backfired. For mass-market retailers like the Gap, American Eagle, and H&M, rejection backfired regardless.

This qualification exists in the field of pickup too. Acting like an egotistic jerk while hitting on fatties projects an incongruence. Hotties will scorn you, and the fatties will feel even more “devalidated” than they did before you leveled your very special attention on them. Interestingly, this aspect of jerkitude verifies the game technique of peacocking. If you stand out in a little way from the crowd of betas, your jerky charisma will be better received because you’ll be projecting a “brand image” of a man who breaks norms.

Luxury retail is a very specific realm. But the study also points toward a bigger and more general qualification of the advantage to being a jerk: should something go wrong, jerks don’t have a reserve of goodwill to fall back on.

This is why you’ve gotta mix up your jerkballs with some slow pitches, especially if you want a long-term relationship with a girl. A jerkboy can keep a woman spinning in a dizzying drama orbit for a long time, but eventually, should a major fault line erupt, she’ll come back down to earth, and if you haven’t provided at least a little padding for her landing the crash could be spectacular.

([Being a jerk] is also marginally more likely to fail you, several studies suggest, if you’re a woman.)

Contrary popular but embittered feminist belief, men don’t dig bitches (unless they’re smoking hot).

Yet in at least three situations, a touch of jerkiness can be helpful. […] The third—not fully explored here, but worth mentioning—is when the group’s survival is in question, speed is essential, and a paralyzing existential doubt is in the air.

Jerkitude is really helpful to your game right at that precarious decision-making point of your first meeting with a girl. When she’s wondering if you’re an interesting man she’d like to get to know is when being a jerk will nudge her in the direction of wanting more of you.

But can you become the jerk women love? There’s an anecdote in the article about an entrepreneur whose life changed after he joined the Marine Corp. His time in the Marines made him more aggressive. He learned how “to go from 15 to 95 real quick”. He did this so often that his personality permanently changed to a new, jerky valence, and it carried over later into business success.

Learning to become a jerk is just like learning Game,

Without that kind of modulation—without getting a little outside our comfort zone, at least some of the time—we’re all probably less likely to reach our goals, whether we’re prickly or pleasant by disposition.

You have to get outside your comfort zone. Not a lot. Just a little push against your comfy boundaries is enough to mold you into a better man.

He believes that the most effective people are “disagreeable givers”—that is, people willing to use thorny behavior to further the well-being and success of others.

No man is a jerk store unto himself. Speaking of “disagreeable givers”, that appellation fits a lot of natural players I’ve known. They are rude and shocking and arrogant, but are also sometimes surprisingly generous, and the recipients of the jerks’ generosity value it so much more than they would from a niceguy because they are preconditioned to assume the jerk had to sacrifice a lot more “character capital” to be generous with them. It’s like getting a pat on the back from the CEO versus getting slavish praise from the mailroom grunt.

Smile at the customer. Take the initiative. Tweak a few rules. Steal cookies for your colleagues. Don’t puncture the impression that you know what you’re doing. Let the other person fill the silence. Get comfortable with discomfort. Don’t privilege your own feelings. Ask who you’re really protecting. Be tough and humane. Challenge ideas, not the people who hold them. Don’t be a slave to type.

Game 101.

And above all, don’t affix nasty, scatological labels to people.

I dunno about this one. I’ve found that girls love my occasional streaks of sadistic cruelty. Ever play the “marry fuck kill” game with a girl you’ve just met?

It’s a jerk move.

And…

wait for it…

chicks dig it!

(this post was very meta-jerk.)

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  1. on May 22, 2015 at 12:15 pm The Atlantic Accepts The Heartiste Theory Of Jerkboy Charisma | Neoreactive

    […] The Atlantic Accepts The Heartiste Theory Of Jerkboy Charisma […]

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    • on May 22, 2015 at 1:02 pm da GBFM lzzzzzzzlzlz (TM)

      sounds like a lot of work
      just to get your cockasz wetz
      in a sterlizized gina hole
      where your cock is both
      far from the first
      and far from the last
      to be there

      lzozozllzolz

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      • on May 22, 2015 at 11:31 pm Matthew Chiglinsky

        Are you implying that only sluts like jerks? I think all girls like jerks, but the bigger the slut the bigger the jerk.

        So, yeah, with the nice girls I think you should be nicer. They deserve it. They’ve earned it by being nice. Respect the girls who respect themselves.

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      • on May 23, 2015 at 10:16 am Captain Obvious

        > “Research stretching back to at least 1972 had shown that power corrupts, or at least disinhibits.” I strongly disagree with this point of view. I am now strongly of the opinion that power ATTRACTS psychopaths. That power – be it in finance or business or bureaucracy or politics – acts as a FILTER which weeds out the decent people and leaves only the most ruthless scratching their way to the top. And things will only get worse as Evil Psychiatry dumps even more poison into our culture.

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      • on May 23, 2015 at 10:18 am Captain Obvious

        Apparently this is what happened in the Roman Empire – the wicked ones were assassinating each other left and right, in order to grab ahold of the Emperorship and the Praetorian Guard, in downtown Rome, but for normal folks, out in the countryside, life was generally rather peaceful and pastoral and predictable.

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      • on May 23, 2015 at 10:30 am Captain Obvious

        ‘CRIMINAL MEETING’ OF BIKERS IN WACO WAS ACTUALLY ORGANIZED POLITICAL GATHERING (On Breitbart ) http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3292555/posts

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      • on May 23, 2015 at 12:39 pm corvinus

        Are you implying that only sluts like jerks? I think all girls like jerks, but the bigger the slut the bigger the jerk.

        More or less true. A man pretty much has to be a bona-fide alpha to be able to pierce a slut’s cauterized heart.

        So, yeah, with the nice girls I think you should be nicer. They deserve it. They’ve earned it by being nice. Respect the girls who respect themselves.

        It depends upon what you mean by “nice girls”, and quite frankly, it’s not that cut-and-dried. Sluts can be awfully nice too.

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    • on May 22, 2015 at 1:35 pm da GBFM lzzzzzzzlzlz (TM)

      when you get to family courtz
      should you just game da judge
      and be a jerkboy to dem?

      will dat win you custody of da children?

      lzozozozoz

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      • on May 22, 2015 at 2:03 pm mendozatorres

        It worked in that critically-acclaimed film, Striptease. Dood kept custody of the daughter cause the judge liked how he played football back in the day. Day being high school.

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      • on May 22, 2015 at 6:25 pm Greg Eliot

        Acclaimed? If memory serves, that movie was universally panned… and considering it had a top-of-her-game Demi Moore allegedly stripping off, I don’t think it did hoped-for box office.

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      • on May 22, 2015 at 6:49 pm mendozatorres

        That’s the fun!

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      • on May 22, 2015 at 7:51 pm King Leopold's Ghost (DP)

        He’s right though. Game is mental jiu jitsu for a race of geldings in order to conjure up a cheap, fleeting pseudo-masculinity for an audience of bemused princesses.

        [CH: you make love sound so tacky.]

        White men have no real power, if we did Sumner Redstone would be in jail or worse for that Bella and the Bulldogs stunt.

        [white men have dormant power. you can hike and camp and even build a village over the landscape of a dormant volcano, but when she blows you’re shit outta luck.]

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      • on May 23, 2015 at 10:34 am Captain Obvious

        The last time I got a speeding ticket, I went in to plead the mercy of the court, and there was a late-40s-ish horny MILF as judge, and I swear to God that she wanted me so bad, I could have taken her back in her chambers and f*cked her brains out. [I was the only white guy, dressed in a coat and tie, amidst a sea of ch!mpanzees and armad!llos and assorted mystery meats].

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      • on May 23, 2015 at 10:35 am Captain Obvious

        “May the defendant approach the bench, your honor?” “Why, why, why, I suppose so.” WHISPERING: “Here, put your number in my phone.” I guess all she could do would be to throw you in the can for a few days.

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      • on May 23, 2015 at 1:07 pm Greg Eliot

        Here cum da judge, here cum da judge!

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    • on May 22, 2015 at 9:28 pm Anonymous

      Thank you for this post.

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  2. on May 22, 2015 at 12:18 pm mendozatorres

    “If you stand out in a little way from the crowd of betas, your jerky charisma will be better received because you’ll be projecting a “brand image” of a man who breaks norms.”

    Superb!

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    • on May 22, 2015 at 4:55 pm burke

      you can stand out of any crowd, even among superalphas. here’s led zeppelin faking it til they was making it during a low point by renting a jumbojet party plane:

      “At the time, Led Zeppelin suffered from almost surreally bad press — Rolling Stone suggested the band change its name to Limp Blimp”

      so…

      “the band posed with the plane in Bob Gruen’s iconic 1973 portrait… here are these guys — they don’t even have to button their shirts — and they have their own plane”

      http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/oral-sex-turbulence-true-tales-796850

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      • on May 22, 2015 at 6:23 pm Greg Eliot

        You can’t site a half-assed review in Rolling Stone as trouble for Led Zep in 1973… if anything, they were at the heighth of their power and popularity.

        You fuckin’ guys have to stop believing everything you read… especially from “hollywood” reporters and other Cyberian pseudos… merely because you think it validates some tenuous point about game.

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      • on May 22, 2015 at 6:59 pm Musashi

        Led Zeppelin from day one were on an express elevator straight to the top. By 1973 they were breaking concert attendance records everywhere they went. In terms of money, talent, charisma, and sheer audacity there has never been a more alpha band.

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      • on May 22, 2015 at 7:56 pm Daniel Plainview

        Zeppelin were the greatest rock band ever. They “made it” from the start, they never had to fake anything.

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      • on May 23, 2015 at 4:28 am James blonde

        Page faked many Alvin Lee riffs

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      • on May 23, 2015 at 6:44 am oink

        if you’re into that type of music, you’re better off listening to the boozy negroes who put it together.

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      • on May 23, 2015 at 1:08 pm Greg Eliot

        Can’t agree on that one… listening side by side, it’s like music from two different planets… always was that way, always will be, when the band itself isn’t a mere wannabe-negro (like the Stones, fer instance)

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      • on May 23, 2015 at 1:24 pm PA

        Republic of Ghana is a well known pioneer in rock and blues.

        Not. Music in North America came from Europe: Scots-Irish folk ballads, Christian hymns, and classical/marching band music. Blacks, being wired differently, reinterpreted those forms a lot of that into their own styles, creating blues, gospel, and jazz, respectively.

        But like more recently with hardcore rap or r&b, what black audiences and white audiences liked is a bit different. The great black Bluesmen and jazzmen played for white audiences, tailoring their style toward white sensibilities. Elvis Presley represents a sort of reclaiming of the original European music, which had passed through the black neurofilter, back to white aesthetic. Rock at its best is pure White energy.

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      • on May 23, 2015 at 1:40 pm Tirthankara

        Both rock and hip-hop are long buried. A tidal wave of electronic/tech. mishmosh drowned and expropriated them both. Whoever can translate the real blinding energy into something that somehow evades and goes beyond all that is going to fukk some shitt up in a big way.

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      • on May 23, 2015 at 1:47 pm PA

        electronic/tech. mishmash

        Dubstep is pretty awesome.

        Popular music goes through polished/raw cycles. The former is very production driven and tends to appeal to female sensibilities. The later is more stripped down and tends to appeal to male sensibilities. Bee Gees vs Led Zeppelin. Eighties, when even hard rock glammed up, gave way to the Grunge supernova.

        For at least the past decade, music has languished in autotune doldrums. The emergent “raw” music right now (taking into account the massive fragmentation of audiences) is a hipster/folk fusion.

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      • on May 23, 2015 at 3:30 pm Tirthankara

        Nice perspective. Dubstep definitely equals female sensibilities, by and large. I personally want to tear my own head off when I’m amidst its wonders. I think some more raw movements like Krautrock got absorbed into these castrated electro ‘doldrums’ before reaching their full potential, eviscerated. There’s definitely redeeming stuff coming though, like you illustrated.

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      • on May 23, 2015 at 3:47 pm PA

        I disagree about dubstep being femme. I’ll go out on a limb and compare it to heavy metal three decades back. Its wierd and somethimes arrhythmic. Female-sensibility music is either something to dance to or subjective ballads.

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      • on May 23, 2015 at 5:08 pm Tirthankara

        ..disco w/ multitudes of bladed vibrators up its silvery ass. It’s dance.

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      • on May 23, 2015 at 5:15 pm Tirthankara

        Metal at its more aryhthmic, (24 tone)

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      • on May 24, 2015 at 7:47 am James Blonde

        Rock at its best is pure White energy.
        ———————————————————-

        “Rock and Roll” was the 1950s equivalent of what early hip hop and rap was to rock and roll. It was mainly an attitude in addition to a stripped down more energetic version of contemporary music.

        The arts will always stagnate and become a cartel until a new group of younger VIBRANT upstarts can bust thru with a “fuckallyall” attitude.

        That was Rock and Roll and that was Hip Hop.

        *now bring the hate*

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      • on May 24, 2015 at 9:23 am Greg Eliot

        T-h-w-a-c-k keeps playing that “rock is attitude” card…

        But it’s the music… not the sneer of the singer, that lasts beyond the moment.

        It always was the music… always will be… if it’s going to be listened to by subsequent generations.

        The “attitude” of the singer isn’t mere styling, but the actual sound of his/her voice… which might very well carry a fair to middling song… but if the music’s no good, all the attitude in the world isn’t going to sell it.

        There were an awful lot of bands from the 60’s and 70’s that had ‘attitude’ and topped the charts… now forgotten for the most part.

        The records of other bands from those years are still around and selling… because they had composition above all else.

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      • on May 24, 2015 at 9:50 am James blonde

        and there goes Eliot with the weak cock block as usual… that train is never late.

        Rock and Roll is proof Martin Heidegger was right; there is no essence because the experience IS the essence.

        Class dismissed;

        except for Eliot; grab that mop and bucket and follow me boy.

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      • on May 24, 2015 at 9:59 am Greg Eliot

        All the pseudo-intellectual n133r-babble and snark in the world makes for raggedy clothing nonetheless when you is jes’ plain outta-yo’-league wrong, Jasper.

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      • on May 24, 2015 at 2:25 pm James Blonde

        None of you hafta take my word for it; just walk into any kuntry nigro back of the bus, reverend neckbone black church on Sunday morning, and when they fire up that Hammond B3, you will hear the pure authenticity that gave birth to rock and roll.

        They still do this today.

        Greg always goes too far in his attempts to discredit me. Its a shame because I believe he has potential, he could turn his life around…

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      • on May 24, 2015 at 3:57 pm Greg Eliot

        Don’t take it so personal, t-h-w-a-c-k…

        Just learn to admit that the “black experience” is not the be-all, end-all of American (ahem) culture that the Cathedral attempts to make it.

        And let’s just say our particular frames of reference… eh… differ.

        lzlzozlzozlzozlzozlozlozlozlozl

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      • on May 24, 2015 at 4:26 pm Tirthankara

        Composition is the core. But give credit where credit is due — Scott Joplin. They say he did for the rag what Chopin did for the mazurka. Of course he was influenced himself by R. Wagner etc. And of course he’s out of Texas. That’s where I grew up. While you bitches are arguing like sick kittens about origins, we press forward like true herdsman and live it up like we should. Most are both racist and unracist as hell, but if someone hits below the belt, all three sides (we chill with the Mexicans too) will typically go after them with fierce abandon. There’s a reason we tried to leave you guys and set up a new republic like true killers. You’re generally boring/petty.

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      • on May 25, 2015 at 5:52 am Greg Eliot

        Well, excuse us for forgetting to remember the Alamo, Chill Wills.

        If you find my bike in the basement there, the tequila’s on me.

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      • on May 25, 2015 at 5:55 am Greg Eliot

        ust walk into any kuntry nigro back of the bus, reverend neckbone black church on Sunday morning, and when they fire up that Hammond B3, you will hear the pure authenticity that gave birth to rock and roll.

        Yeah, we’ve all seen the James Brown segment in The Blues Brothers, thank you very much.

        Funny, whenever I spun the platter of acknowledged classics like Who’s Next or Pet Sounds or Dark Side Of The Moon or etc., etc., etc., etc., I ain’t hearing nuthin’ black…

        … not one drop. lzlzozlzozlzozlzozlzolzolzolzolozl

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      • on May 25, 2015 at 3:09 pm James Blonde

        What?

        the Beach Boys “unblack?”

        They have that do-wop sound; but the best way to the truth is to simply ask Brian wilson and the rest of the boys who they listened to growing up.

        Im done with your suck face white cracker pep rally nonsense Eliot.

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      • on May 25, 2015 at 3:22 pm Greg Eliot

        Dumbass…

        Everybody listened to everybody growing up, from Chuck Berry to The Four Freshman to Eddie Cochran to Gene Vincent to The Platters, etc., etc., etc.

        And yes, most bands had their fun covering tunes from all of the above from time to time.

        We’re talking the compositions of the bands themselves, once they matured and came into their own.

        Beach Boys do wop? California, chum, not East Coast urban street corner. You might want to listen to The Four Freshman and read up on how Brian Wilson used to spend hours after school on an old keyboard organ, fishing around until he “got” all the chords they were doing with their vocals. This was the origin of their later signature sound, coupled with Wilson’s unique genius for composing.

        Geez, Louise, this is what, about the fifth time we’ve covered this at the chateau? Brian Wilson could write and play the equivalent of Sweet Little Sixteen in his sleep… Chuck Berry on his best day couldn’t come up with a Caroline, No or God Only Knows.

        Learn the subject about which you would flap your yap, or just STFU.

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      • on May 25, 2015 at 9:20 pm James blonde

        Rock & Roll as “attitude?”

        Yeah, fuck Greg Eliot; young white teens first learned game from black people through their MUSIC.

        The reason Eliot fights the black people Rock and roll connection so hard is because it is so clear.

        Sux to be him.

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      • on May 25, 2015 at 9:31 pm Anonymous

        “Yeah, fuck Greg Eliot”

        James, you and Greg deserve each other.

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      • on May 25, 2015 at 10:31 pm Greg Eliot

        Nobody’s fighting any “black people rock and roll connection”…

        What’s being contended is giving whoever drew those original cave paintings credit for the Cistine Chapel.

        You start the whole ball rolling (yet again!) in an attempt to gainsay the whole “white energy” influence of rock, but continuously refuse to acknowledge things like the Beatles doing the gold standard version of Twist & Shout, or the Who’s masterful rearrangement of Eyesight To The Blind as integrated into Tommy.

        James, you and Greg deserve each other.

        Don’t know what that’s supposed to mean… but we’ll let you know when your opinion on our discussions is warranted.

        You fairy.

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      • on May 26, 2015 at 5:31 am James Blonde

        Greg Eliot

        What’s being contended is giving whoever drew those original cave paintings credit for the Cistine Chapel
        —————————————————————————————–

        Yeah, I know… those farmers who sent the Redcoats packing at Bunker Hill had nothing to do with the founding of this country.

        After all, they were just a bunch of farmers and alcoholics…

        Indeed, a couple of bike mechanics could never have anything to do with a 747

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      • on May 26, 2015 at 5:59 am James Blonde

        “You ready to rock?”

        “You ready to rock and roll?”

        First of all, women don’t say this; so this is strictly a dude question:

        When is the last time another dude asked you that question; and what was he really asking you?

        Think back?

        What were the circumstances? what were you getting ready to do?

        Rock and Roll is an attitude,

        and, and,

        Greg Eliot is an idiot.

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      • on May 26, 2015 at 9:34 am Greg Eliot

        “You ready to rock and roll?”

        First of all, women don’t say this; so this is strictly a dude question:

        When is the last time another dude asked you that question; and what was he really asking you?

        Think back?

        What were the circumstances? what were you getting ready to do?

        Ah yes, the ol’ “when ya gots nuthin’, revert to n133r-babble” gambit.

        For the record, I’ve heard that uttered by the likes of the Wilson sisters (Heart) and Joan Jett and Kate Pierson (B-52s), etc., etc., etc.

        What was your point again?

        Indeed, a couple of bike mechanics could never have anything to do with a 747

        Well, since your brought up aviation…

        God bless those bicycle mechanics… but they were a far, far cry from the jumbo jet designers, weren’t they? Pretty much like those three-chord “geniuses” you tout, compared to the likes of a Brian WIlson or a Pete Townshend or etc., etc., etc.

        And just don’t go saying we wouldn’t have gotten to the moon without them… that’s just, well… stupid.

        Oh, that’s right… you’re the guy that still maintains those moon missions were faked. But Eliot’s the idiot, eh? :duckface

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      • on May 26, 2015 at 6:26 pm James blonde

        What was your point again?
        ——————————-
        my point is, my frostbitten friend; when a dude asks you “you ready to rock and roll!”

        he aint axin bout no “composition”; he checkin your attitude bitch; specifically to determine if he can count on you to be for real, or you gonna fold up like some cheap ass greg eliot lawn furniture?

        How can you be so obtuse? (and look like a bitch too?)

        Listen Eliot, you lost this fight; stay down before I knock you down for good.

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      • on May 26, 2015 at 6:49 pm Greg Eliot

        when a dude asks you “you ready to rock and roll!”

        You been watching too many try-hard cheerleaders posing as frontmen.

        I fondly to this day recall seeing The Who back in 1975 in a 5000 capacity hall in Europe…

        Daltrey and Townshend didn’t ask the audience nuthin’, they just went about their business… and what a business it was, putting on pretty much the greatest rock concert of all time… but I digress.

        Your latest rejoiner, as usual, ignores all the gainsaying done to your previous claims, because after all, you got no counters to those body and head shots.

        But, as is your wont… t-h-w-a-c-k declaring victory from the floor of the canvas yet again.

        I think we’ll let the referee call this one… once he stops tripping over yo’ bruised carcass.

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    • on May 24, 2015 at 10:07 am joey

      “if the salesperson did not look the image the brand was trying to project, condescension backfired”
      so what happens if you stand out by peakocking or looking good, but naked you reveal some surgery or stretch marks, etc. does that break your brand image, lol

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  3. on May 22, 2015 at 12:35 pm martin

    too subjective for me. one (marxist) man’s jerk is another man’s gentleman.

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    • on May 23, 2015 at 10:38 am Captain Obvious

      I was hoping that the “measurement” they were taking was going to be the speed with which the waiter returned with the “vegetarian sandwich and sweet coffee”. Especially I was hoping that the hot waitresses returned more quickly for jerkboy than for nice guy.

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  4. on May 22, 2015 at 12:38 pm Biff Winnetka (@HypocriLib)

    Zack…the giving Jerkboy in Employee of the Month

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  5. on May 22, 2015 at 12:47 pm SuperFucker!

    Such an AMAZING post! Spot on!

    I’ve been gaming this girl who lives down the street from me. The other day she walked by and smiled at me. So I threw a carburetor at her and told her to fuck off. Broke two of her ribs. Now we’re dating and she’s head over heels in love with me! This shit really works!

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    • on May 22, 2015 at 12:53 pm oink

      Don’t they tech yew at yer yewishe schul that the propah spelling is carburetter?

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    • on May 22, 2015 at 12:58 pm oink

      But it’s true, you go full chimp on what you cannot reach (ergo the goy girl smiled at you strictly in your inflamed imagination).

      Sigmund the WienJude called it Reaktionsbildung IIRC?.

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    • on May 22, 2015 at 1:05 pm Canadian Friend

      Girls these days respond better to fuel injection throttle bodies than carburetors.

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      • on May 22, 2015 at 1:08 pm UltraFucker!

        i threw the transmission first but it landed short

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      • on May 22, 2015 at 1:49 pm The Spirit Within

        I threw the whole block at her with one hand but it sailed over her head and landed in a Chevelle 454 SS. I drove it away with the owner’s dog in the back and picked up the girl and we made sweet love at the beach under fireworks. Then I did it again the next day, but with a hotter girl and a better car.

        lol

        [CH: yeah but did you leave her better than you found her?]

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      • on May 22, 2015 at 3:10 pm Greg Eliot

        I bet your toes curled THAT day.

        lzlzozlzozlzozlzozlzozlzolzolzolzol

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      • on May 22, 2015 at 4:40 pm Kate Minter

        No, but the doctor did!

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    • on May 22, 2015 at 4:40 pm Kate Minter

      LOLOLOL

      Sense of humor is an underrated arrow in Cupid’s quiver.

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  6. on May 22, 2015 at 12:59 pm Canadian Friend

    “… If you’re nothing but a niceguy, people will come to despise you because you will be giving away your generosity as if it was worthless….”

    I wish I had been told that when I was a kid, and it had been repeated to me until I was an adult and left home. ( but then again both my parents are the nicest people I know…could be a genetic thing… )

    Although I was never a total beta I was never a total Alpha either, as a teenager I was even slightly like Judd nelson in Breakfast Club ( yep eerily similar to your story Greg Elliot ), defiant, bold, a sort of rebel without a cause involved in a few fights, and in trouble with the police a couple of times ( as a minor ) but was still too nice on too many occasions to too many people even naive at times

    …and despite hanging out with the toughest guys in school ( years later some ended up in jail for attempted murder ), I was usually shy with girls… a sort of semi alpha, semi shy guy…

    but I digress…

    Had I been taught these lessons when I was young my life would have been better in many ways, from better relationships with women to better chances at getting promoted at work et cetera…

    …there would have been much less headaches and heartaches…and I would have a larger nest egg for when I retire I am sure

    I guess in some ways I am a “late bloomer” ( started “waking up” in my 40s…)

    Thank you CH and to some of the guys here who also provide good advice. I would name names but the Award girl is pulling me away from the microphone ( haha)

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    • on May 22, 2015 at 1:02 pm mendozatorres

      There’s no such thing as a late bloomer. When it’s your time, it’s your time. Right now is your time. Mine as well. Knowing what I know now, I’m seizing it with every fiber of my being.

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    • on May 22, 2015 at 1:19 pm Ohiomega

      I’ve always wondered what was wrong with me, despising my own parents for their unconditional love. I guess it’s that they hold their generosity, and by extension themselves, cheap. How can one have anything but disdain for such a person? This would also be the reason the Christian god is a pussy faggot whom no self-respecting man would follow even were he dumb enough to believe in the possibility of the existence of such supernatural entities.

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      • on May 22, 2015 at 3:11 pm Greg Eliot

        You trolling fairy… get back under your rainbow bridge.

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      • on May 22, 2015 at 4:01 pm Sean Fielding

        There’s considerable art to his trolling though, Greg, including his point about the Christian God.

        Compare to our old Gods: no damn way Zeus/Deus Pater/Jupiter was all niceguy all the time. Hell, even the Old Testament God wasn’t that. But once Heaven arrives on the scene, His nasty side is all in an individual’s future and boils down to one instant of Divine Judgement. Thus far less relevant .

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      • on May 22, 2015 at 6:17 pm Greg Eliot

        You inexperience in New Testament scripture betrays you…

        Christ Himself was no “nice guy” when merited… two quick examples,

        He physically turned over tables in the temple and threw the moneychangers out bodily.

        He turned and railed angrily at His best friend for not getting with the program… “Get thee behind me, Satan!” He rebuked Peter.

        Whom the Lord loves He chastens and rebukes.

        I wish ye of little and no faith would just STFU about Christianity until you had some idea of what you’re talking about.

        You fairies.

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      • on May 22, 2015 at 8:10 pm dirkdiggly

        Greg, you make me chuckle every time with your deft application of “…you fairy”.

        heheheh

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      • on May 22, 2015 at 9:12 pm Regular John

        “You fairy” definitely needs to re-enter the lexicon. Hat tip to Greg for bringing it back. Archie would be proud.

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      • on May 22, 2015 at 9:20 pm corvinus

        Can also be slightly intensified to “fairy-cake”.

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      • on May 23, 2015 at 1:24 am Greg Eliot

        Thank Al Pacino as Ricky Roma for that inimitable epithet… or should I say David Mamet? 😉

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      • on May 24, 2015 at 12:36 pm ho

        Not gonna lie, that beatdown actually rivals the one in the beginning of the film.

        “You fucking child.”

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      • on May 25, 2015 at 5:58 am Greg Eliot

        Yeah, that Alex Baldwin cameo and the Pacino upbraiding of Spacey are two classics. Never gets old. 😉

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    • on May 23, 2015 at 12:29 am Carlos Danger

      My notch count would have been in the hundreds if this kind of knowledge and interchange had been available when I was younger.

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      • on May 23, 2015 at 10:40 am Captain Obvious

        And you’d have every manner of venereal disease and a bunch of low IQ offspring all over the damned place and child support payments like you can’t even imagine. There are a whole lot of reasons why our people are K-Selected and not R-Selected.

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      • on May 24, 2015 at 12:46 pm gunslingergregi

        most people have the child support allready though if gonna have it might as well go buck wild from the gate

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  7. on May 22, 2015 at 1:07 pm Laguna Beach Fogey

    Yes, exactly this.

    Often requires intense detox of years of harmful programming by parents, Church, media, and culture.

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    • on May 22, 2015 at 5:21 pm burke

      for some, decades. me.

      i was so nice and i was myself and everything, just like they said

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    • on May 22, 2015 at 8:43 pm Sentient

      Young fellas – if your Mom is always saying to you “don’t grow up to be an asshole like your father!!!” – you can disregard this advice.

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    • on May 22, 2015 at 9:22 pm corvinus

      I was constantly reprimanded for behaving “rudely” growing up, and even after I grew up, by both parents. Oddly enough, few others, least of all young women, had a problem with it.

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  8. on May 22, 2015 at 1:10 pm ho

    “No man is a jerk store unto himself. Speaking of “disagreeable givers”, that appellation fits a lot of natural players I’ve known. They are rude and shocking and arrogant, but are also sometimes surprisingly generous, and the recipients of the jerks’ generosity value it so much more than they would from a niceguy because they are preconditioned to assume the jerk had to sacrifice a lot more “character capital” to be generous with them.”

    One guy I know was a Pakistani psychopath. (who would smoke weed during Ramadan btw) It cannot be explained how much of a dickhead he was. His persona around women was what proved to me that the “chicks dig jerks” wasn’t just a myth. He would unabashedly touch a girls boobs and act like it’s no biggie. When a chick would mouth off at him on the phone, he’d go “You talk like this, but let’s see how mouthy you are if I’m standing in front of you.” Next time they saw each other, the girl was all smiles with a glint in her eye. he would talk to chicks like “we should have a bet: we fuck and whoever is uable to keep going buys the other one several drinks.”

    Tons of examples like that. However, he was also one of the most harmful and dangerous people to be around. The kind of guy who would toss an illegal gun he had in his hand on your lap as you sit on the backseat as cops approach the car and then brag about it to others as a funny story.

    What reminded me of him was the fact that he was also one of the most generous people I have seen. Buying things for his buddies and doing shit for them while also lying to them, wasting their time and bringing them into contact with criminal elements.

    Oh well…

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    • on May 22, 2015 at 1:24 pm Ohiomega

      Yep, just another instance of the wrong person being rewarded for doing the wrong thing in this backward, FUBAR world. . . .

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      • on May 23, 2015 at 8:32 am Tilikum

        Wrong?

        Interesting choice of words.

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  9. on May 22, 2015 at 1:14 pm Ohiomega

    Any salesperson who treated me with anything other than the utmost respect and total deference would most assuredly not get the sale. Gucci, et al, are for chicks, though, so maybe that part of their psychology is different from ours.

    Also, I have to say, the civilized world would be a much better place if it’s hierarchies ran entirely on what the article calls “prestige” and we call value, rather than having these stone-age relics running around breaking rules all the way to the top. Rules are meant to never, ever be broken under any circumstances. Got it, jerkboy, you worthless piece of shit who’s lack of inhibitions qualifies him for the gas chamber?

    One more thing: This reminds me of my governor, John Kasich, who’s fixing to be an also-ran in the GOP primary. He’s a well-known prick, going back decades–even his own Republican legislature chafes against his brusque nature and know-it-all attitude–but the voters don’t care because he has an air of competency, confirming Heartistian precepts.

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    • on May 22, 2015 at 1:56 pm Benson

      As a salesman, I think you’re lying to yourself. All of the concepts we discuss here I use on a daily basis to close deals.

      “How much does your service cost a month?”

      “It’s a million dollars a month. Do you have a PayPal account?”

      Kind of a jerky thing to say to the guy (or girl) who’s about to sign a long-term contract with you. But it usually makes them laugh, which gives them good feels about me as I start talking about the price.

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      • on May 22, 2015 at 2:11 pm Ohiomega

        That’s a joke. I don’t take it as jerky. Also, I take preemptive measures against salespersons. For one, I avoid interacting with them if at all possible. Second, I assume everything they say is a lie. Finally, I know what I want beforehand and only go to the store if I couldn’t get it online, thereby rendering their function merely to pick it up and hand it to me.

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      • on May 23, 2015 at 10:42 am Captain Obvious

        I actually have to agree with Ohio Smegma here. You pull jerkboy on me in a a sale, and you just lost the sale to someone else. Actually, the extent to which Smegma truly feels that way only proves that he’s an Eskimo troll trying to pretend to be a lesser beta shegetz.

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      • on May 24, 2015 at 3:29 pm Benson

        I actually have to agree with Ohio Smegma here. You pull jerkboy on me in a a sale, and you just lost the sale to someone else.

        It works. Although, the jerkboy routine is only a tool with specific applications, and I use it subtly. I never walk into a meeting with my middle fingers raised, screaming “buy or fuck off.” I usually bring it out when someone gets bitchy.

        What doesn’t work, interestingly enough, is trying too hard: pushing for the sales meeting after they’ve said no, calling too often, telling them repeatedly how much I want their business.

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  10. on May 22, 2015 at 1:22 pm UltraFucker!

    The ultimate jerkboy behavior is to just drag her behind a bush or dumpster and have your way with her. Good rule of thumb is to just work your way backwards from there until your in the legal zone.

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    • on May 22, 2015 at 1:46 pm oink

      What are you blabbering about, yarmulked goukopf meshuggener?

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      • on May 22, 2015 at 2:07 pm UltraFucker!

        somebody is feeling hormonal today

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    • on May 22, 2015 at 1:47 pm Canadian Friend

      Don’t forget to bring some carburetor cleaning fluid!

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  11. on May 22, 2015 at 1:44 pm 88

    OT:

    think you have to a hot ripped stud to get hot girls? think again. this guy is nothing great to look at but he must have some serious charisma, charm, game, whatever if his hot girlfriend is ambushing him with a surprise wedding and the rock is thrilled to be in on it.

    http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2015/05/21/the-rock-leaves-fan-who-was-supposed-to-interview-him-in-shock-the-whole-thing-was-insane/

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  12. on May 22, 2015 at 2:01 pm gunslingergregi

    So what is that special sauce that jerkboys have which flavors a woman’s life? Or anyone’s life?

    When I thought about whether I had friends or associates who fit Aaron James’s definition of an asshole, I could come up with two. I couldn’t pinpoint why I spent time with them, other than the fact that life seemed larger, grander—like the world was a little more at your feet—when they were around.

    “I want more LIFE, fucker!”
    ””””””””

    thats me baby he he he
    my girl tells me like i make her feel top of the world
    my wife mom said i can die now i have seen everything after we stayed in the presidential suite which dam im glad we did cause since i been back she has died rip mom i loved that woman she was so freakin cool

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  13. on May 22, 2015 at 2:12 pm Sutton

    I have a policy of not antagonizing the waitstaff. They can do unspeakable things to my meal. Is that beta?

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  14. on May 22, 2015 at 2:15 pm Treezus

    I posted a few days ago about being too much of an asshole and getting blow back from it. Sentient responded with positive advice. Reading this post reminded me that the same night I had reported on a girl with a 9 body, 7 face was talking to a friend and me. For some reason, I kept saying the most sexist, though true, things to her. When she said she was studying to be a chemist I showed surprise and told her it was very interesting to meet a woman going into that field. She sparred back and I recall saying things like, “I respect women’s greater ability to read and perceive emotions and cooperate with others. Its great that you’re a highbreed and retain those qualities while showing masculine ones.” Probably something else about submissiveness of women as great.

    So at one point she tells me she hates me. Literally says, “I hope you o home alone tonight and madturbate and cry as you do it. masterbare alone crying.” To which I bust out laughing.

    She then perceives to inquire of my friend if I get women. Bless his heart, he responds, “I’m sorru I have to tell you this, but he gets a lot,” which obviously makes her madder.

    I know fellas, this is terrible game, not even game. But she’s saying some other nonsense directed at me after my friend said that and her hands are moving wildly, and one gets close to me. I grab the arm near me and squeeze forearm while looking in her eyes. Can’t remeber if I made a dickhead comment during action, though it’s likely. Anyway, I see pleasure flood into her eyes while I’m squeezing her fuckin forearm.

    So I ran dullard cave man game. Girl spits out femenist bullshit she thinks she believes. I squeeze her arm with force, she tingles crazily, then runs off and has to try to rationalize that feelin with her beliefs.

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    • on May 23, 2015 at 10:50 am Captain Obvious

      Did you got her number? She’s primed, man. Although be careful with the violent kino. There’s a fine line between 50 Shades of Badass and 50 years in the penitentiary for violent rape. Now that you’ve shown her your ugly side, you could take her to a nice restaurant and show her your cultured side. Then go back to her place and get all 50 Shades on her.

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  15. on May 22, 2015 at 2:42 pm Treezus

    No, I learned what I was doing works poorly for picking up women.

    I also validated the truth in what I was telling her by her reaction.

    Also, just by talking to her I raised my status with other girls in the place, which was elevated by fact I was touching her throughout interaction and talking down to her. It seems sometimes that girls are more interested in me after seeing me draw such a reaction from a girl, especially a cuter one.

    But, yes, I have work on my game and avoid such frivolity in the future.

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    • on May 22, 2015 at 8:50 pm Sentient

      It’s a phase… part of red pill maturation to want to call out behaviors. But as you note – it’s not good game. There is a time and place for comeuppance, but most seduction is going to be fun, playful, energizing, sexual…

      Stick with the tried and true – A&A, neg (calibrated!), tease, flirt, push pull, kino, logistics, – instigate, isolate -escalate. That is if you want to progress to sex. If you just want to have conversations, disregard.

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  16. on May 22, 2015 at 2:53 pm duderino

    I was standing behind a hot girl at the grocery store a while back. She was fit and wore tight yoga pants. She was waffling over which sugar free energy drink to buy. I’d pulled an all nighter studying, and was beginning to feel sick. I unintentionally cleared my throat in a way that made it sound like I was telling her to gtfo of my way. She started apologizing and sheepishly grinned as I grabbed whatever had the most caffeine. I was barraged with questions about which drink was best and how she wanted something to give her energy without getting fat. Throat clearing must be an underrated opener.

    I was too grumpy and caught off guard to follow through. I’ve been gaining muscle lately and aren’t used to cute girls opening me. Anyone with experience talking to girls at grocery stores?

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    • on May 22, 2015 at 4:51 pm Kate Minter

      Yes, but it might not help you 🙂

      The checkout line (pun intended) is a good place to strike up conversations. You’re checking out (again) their groceries, maybe teasing them about how long it takes them to remember their pin number, etc. Also, the way grocery stores have reintroduced the cafe (some around me even have live music at them) it seems like the perfect set up. Meet standing in line, then head over to have a cup of coffee together or whatever.

      A perfect meet cute 🙂

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      • on May 22, 2015 at 5:15 pm lcs

        One of Eli Wallach’s earlier meet cutes:

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      • on May 22, 2015 at 6:02 pm Kate Minter

        That’s the same man?!?!?! *BLINK*

        My husband told me I wasn’t reading enough of this blog because I was getting too nerdy. I think I’m cured!!! hahahaha

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      • on May 22, 2015 at 6:30 pm Greg Eliot

        C’mon, Kate… if you sit through Baby Doll, you’ll find both Malden and Wallach somewhat “creepy”, in the parlance of you dames.

        Caroll Baker deserved much better, doll that she was.

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      • on May 23, 2015 at 7:33 am Kate Minter

        I was just startled by the contrast of such different characters presented by the same actor.

        Did she deserve better? She looked to be on the verge of adultery to me. Letting some guy lay hands on your neck is pretttttyy lax.

        A great scene for the PUA crowd about how to make a woman putty in your hands, and a wonderful example of ladylesson #1: “There is never a reason to be alone with a man who is not your husband.”

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      • on May 22, 2015 at 8:59 pm Sentient

        Great scene LCS…

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      • on May 23, 2015 at 1:45 pm Malcolm X-Lax

        Most young, beautiful blonde southern gals secretly lust for homely middle-aged jews.

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    • on May 22, 2015 at 8:49 pm Laguna Beach Fogey

      I regularly bark “Hey you’re holding up the line!” to women young and old at the grocery store. I always say it with a wide smile and big dimples. Never fails to get a playful response.

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      • on May 23, 2015 at 7:43 am Kate Minter

        haha I think the grocery store is actually a great place to meet people because there is the bond of “we’re all human; we all need to eat” that pulls people together. My husband pretty much chats up everyone, but he really excels in the grocery store. You wouldn’t believe some of the things people tell him. I call them grocery store confessions.

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    • on May 22, 2015 at 11:06 pm duderino

      The instadate at the cafe is a good idea. I feel like the grocery store is a bad place to go direct. (I see you like pizza rolls, wanna fuck?) But finding a way to continue the convo without awkwardly following each other through the store is ideal.

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      • on May 23, 2015 at 7:41 am Kate Minter

        Yeah, you’re still in a “safe” zone. What is going to happen to you in the grocery store?

        You know how when you see someone you know when you first walk into the store and you talk for a minute and say “it was nice to see you,” and then you continue shopping and you bump into them like five more times? How about making it a game. Tell the girl up front: “I know I’m going to see you five more times. I bet I can shop faster than you.” Each time you see her, it gives you a chance to build rapport.

        Next run in: “Is that all you’ve got? Didn’t anybody ever teach you how to shop?”

        Next run in: “Do you want me to help you? You look confused. No? Okay, see you in the next aisle.”

        Next run in: “Honey, did you get the toothpaste we need?”

        Final run in: “Okay, this is ridiculous. We may as well just shop together.”

        Whatever you do, just have fun with it:)

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      • on May 23, 2015 at 9:37 am uh

        “I see you like pizza rolls, wanna fuck?”

        Deliver that in an exuberant mood and it’ll work.

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      • on May 24, 2015 at 5:13 am James Blonde

        Two things you can always ask a girl in a grocery store:

        1. Do you work here?

        2. What country you from?

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    • on May 23, 2015 at 12:09 pm Captain Obvious

      If you’re exhausted and you don’t give a d@mn, that’s a perfect excuse to hand her your phone and say, “Enter your number”. Then txt her “From tall dark and handsome jerkboy at the grocery store. TTYS.”

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  17. on May 22, 2015 at 3:02 pm jr

    And then you run into Richard Kuklinski…

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  18. on May 22, 2015 at 3:23 pm Scroop

    the “marry fuck kill” game

    Can someone explain?

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    • on May 22, 2015 at 9:11 pm walawala

      search the archives. there’s a whole post on it here.

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  19. on May 22, 2015 at 3:57 pm The Atlantic Accepts The Heartiste Theory Of Jerkboy Charisma | Reaction Times

    […] Source: Heartiste […]

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  20. on May 22, 2015 at 4:09 pm Bill Price

    Heartiste, this is off-topic, but I’d appreciate a post on mate-selection criteria for guys who can choose women. A lot of alphas and higher betas probably want to have strong sons and good-looking daughters, so what’s the happy medium? Some of the hottest women are physically unsuitable for producing strong sons.

    Wouldn’t it be in the interests of a man who wants to have successful male progeny to choose a woman who isn’t too excessively feminine? If you’re going to choose a brood mother, it’s better to have a woman who is attractive but not too delicate, right?

    In that spirit, how should young men game Lindsey Vonn, Therese Johaug, Maria Sharapova or Lucy Lawless type women? In my opinion, it would be for the best for our people if these types of women had a dozen kids each.

    The problem is that I think a lot of men are very attracted to them, but also intimidated by their impressive physicality, thus leaving them open to cocky southern and equatorial types.

    [CH: there’s a lot to chew on here. I’ll put my thoughts in a post.]

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    • on May 22, 2015 at 6:28 pm Greg Eliot

      First of all, Lindsey Vonn should be kicked square in the azz… and if and when she was sufficiently repentant, then MAYBE talk about having children.

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      • on May 23, 2015 at 11:28 am Philomathean

        She’s ruined for all white men. No dice. Further, her father deserves horse whipping in front of his family and friends.

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      • on May 24, 2015 at 5:15 am James Blonde

        what was her crime?

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      • on May 24, 2015 at 7:08 am Philomathean

        Let’s just say violence will be commited against nature herself is the product of such a union produces another t-whack.

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      • on May 24, 2015 at 7:32 am James Blonde

        speak english motherfukcer

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      • on May 24, 2015 at 9:05 am Greg Eliot

        What was her crime?

        As if you didn’t know… you disingenuous fairy.

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      • on May 24, 2015 at 9:30 am James blonde

        oh wait, let me guess???

        she fucked a black guy?

        wtf?

        theres a black guy in the fucking white house…

        leave her alone you fag; and dont touch her dog either.

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      • on May 24, 2015 at 9:57 am Greg Eliot

        DUH!

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      • on May 24, 2015 at 12:08 pm Anonymous

        I’d like to see a Vonn Diagram of that.

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    • on May 23, 2015 at 12:22 am Carlos Danger

      Character is more important for men than physical attributes. If you want good sons, be closely involved in their lives. Those little guys live for their fathers’ attention.

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    • on May 23, 2015 at 11:44 am Philomathean

      Bill,

      I think there’s a post in the archives which address, in part, your inquiry on ultra feminine women and the offspring they’re likely to produce. I believe there’s a correlation between hyper femininity in a mother and the degree of the expression of her son’s masculinity.

      Gotta find the sweet spot: a combination of beauty and athleticism. If you want strong, masculine sons, choose a beautiful, athletic girl, who has a tall, masculine father and tall masculine brothers to maximize the preferred outcome.

      As for gaming the women you mentioned: they’re still women and they can’t escape their natures. Let their beauty dictate your application of Game.

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  21. on May 22, 2015 at 5:23 pm no

    How many of you can turn down good young just out of high school pussy that follows you around just for the chance that I might just validate her, and it not affect you? Get them to chase.

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  22. on May 22, 2015 at 6:06 pm Putin

    The conversation lasted an hour. There was a bitter bot watching. He was bitter because he wanted to talk to her but was afraid to sit near her.

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    • on May 23, 2015 at 7:01 am Sentient

      Careful… This is Rum’s turf.

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    • on May 24, 2015 at 12:30 pm Greg Eliot

      It was a dark and stormy night…

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  23. on May 22, 2015 at 6:29 pm The Lone Planet

    Never trust charismatic people.

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    • on May 22, 2015 at 6:34 pm Greg Eliot

      So you’re saying that you’re repelled by those to whom you’re attracted?

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      • on May 23, 2015 at 9:09 am quorasdesignatedasshole

        He lives on the lone planet.

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    • on May 24, 2015 at 11:56 am no

      It’s the orgasmic people who get to me most.

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  24. on May 22, 2015 at 8:32 pm Putin

    NSA loves the mod

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-05-18/chris-christie-calls-snowden-supporters-civil-liberties-extremists-his-latest-desper

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  25. on May 22, 2015 at 8:36 pm Benson

    Latest approach, while checking out at the thrift store:

    Her: “Hi, how are you today?”
    Me: “Good. Are you having an exciting day?”
    “Yeah, it’s always hopping around this hour. Just this one book for you?”
    “For now. That’s the only good one I found.
    “We have more; I just have to sort them.”
    I’ve read all the romance novels you have over there, so bring those out first.”
    “haha. I’ll go sort the new ones for you right now.”
    “Thank you. Sweaty men riding horses is kind of my thing.”

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    • on May 22, 2015 at 8:38 pm Benson

      She was smiling and laughing through this entire interaction, so I put out my hand, asked her name and introduced myself. I then pulled out my phone and said, “I have to go, but I’d like to talk to you again. Would you give me your number?”

      “I actually don’t have a working number right now.” I wasn’t ready for that. “Oh, so how do you communicate with people?” I asked. “Mostly through email.” My first thought was that this was a really lame rejection, but she just looked at me expectantly, like I was supposed to ask for her email. Fuck that, either way. “Alright, cool, I’ll see you around,” I said as I walked away.

      Just before I reached the door she said, “Bye, have a good day.”
      I didn’t know what to make of it.

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      • on May 22, 2015 at 8:41 pm Putin

        That was good. I think you know there was a fair chance she would of given you her email. Either way good boldness.

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      • on May 22, 2015 at 8:42 pm Putin

        I think I will break up my reply’s and try to input again.

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      • on May 22, 2015 at 9:35 pm walawala

        @Benson

        Her: “I actually don’t have a working number right now?

        Me: What are you homeless? Living in a hostel? Reform School? You lost your phone privileges? I knew you were trouble. Oh well…, see you around then.

        I never let girls off the hook when they say stupid stuff. That’s the jerkboy charm. I would have looked her in the eye and if she didn’t qualify herself quickly I would have shrugged and said as you did: “Cool, see you around…” and left.

        Here’s where I see where you need to look at your game:

        “So how do you communicate with people?”—you’re in HER FRAME. It screams chase.

        She’s just being polite. Keep ploughing on. There was nothing wrong with this interaction. She’s either interested or she’s not.

        But more teasing….more amused mastery…more shrugs. If you had shrugged after the “homeless” comment and walked away the chances are it would have instilled dread and she would have instinctively jumped at the chance to offer an alternative: Facebook, email, some other thing…

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      • on May 22, 2015 at 10:07 pm Benson

        That was good. I think you know there was a fair chance she would of given you her email. Either way good boldness.

        Yeah, everything felt very fluid, which is why I thought it may not have been a rejection. Still, gmail is for work and Amazon coupons; I don’t have time to write bitches emails–lol.

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      • on May 23, 2015 at 1:27 am gunslingergregi

        she may really not have a phone period i was down the some type off thrift store thing with my girl and she said that the homeless can get a place to live but only if they work the store there was a kind of cute chick in there but i didnt sick my bitch on her he he he
        but yea can get a pile of good quality dresses for 60 bucks so that makes it kind of nice

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      • on May 23, 2015 at 1:33 am gunslingergregi

        my chick knows everything about a lot of shit i had no fucking clue about
        i guess why keep her around he he he

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      • on May 23, 2015 at 1:38 am gunslingergregi

        stopped at one and where i got my superheavy leather jacket she found for me for 20 bucks i think it would definetly repell a knife he he he

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      • on May 23, 2015 at 1:43 am Benson

        she may really not have a phone period i was down the some type off thrift store thing with my girl and she said that the homeless can get a place to live but only if they work the store there was a kind of cute chick in there but i didnt sick my bitch on her he he he
        but yea can get a pile of good quality dresses for 60 bucks so that makes it kind of nice

        You kind of trailed off there, dude, but I think I get the gist. haha. Maybe I’ll swing by the thrift store this weekend.

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      • on May 23, 2015 at 2:38 am gunslingergregi

        Benson
        she may really not have a phone period i was down the some type off thrift store thing with my girl and she said that the homeless can get a place to live but only if they work the store there was a kind of cute chick in there but i didnt sick my bitch on her he he he
        but yea can get a pile of good quality dresses for 60 bucks so that makes it kind of nice

        You kind of trailed off there, dude, but I think I get the gist. haha. Maybe I’ll swing by the thrift store this weekend.
        ”””””””””””””””

        that where a chick to get in there kind of helps my girl got all the info out that chick while i was looking for a replacement mug for one i lost complete life history he he he
        like my strength is not getting peoples life histories im too selfish to listen unless i care about em got to delegate that shit

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      • on May 23, 2015 at 2:47 am gunslingergregi

        ok so im good at getting free shit and upgrades on things and making shit happen but suck at pickup lol unless its indirect it seems
        relationship game i own though
        seems better when it is a woman you are introduced to through another woman
        like the chick that came to my house yesterday and it is a mess cause i dont clean shit same that one that made the card andbusted on me a little for messy but cleaned the hell out of it
        without me asking
        but yea my chick introduced me to her

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      • on May 23, 2015 at 10:15 pm walawala

        @Benson, comment in mods for you.

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      • on May 23, 2015 at 11:56 pm Benson

        Benson, comment in mods for you.

        You might be better off summarizing.

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      • on May 24, 2015 at 11:10 pm walawala

        @Benson summary she says she doesn’t have a phone. Sounds like a blo off.

        IF I get this flakiness I usually tease:

        “No phone? What you’re a Carmelite nun? Can’t talk to the outside world? Mother Superior catch you doing something bad? I knew you were trouble…

        Wait for her reaction. Then: “Ok, see you around”.

        I’ve written about this before, if I ask someone out and they blow me off depending on the context that’s usually it.

        Asking her “How do you communicate with people” comes off a bit needy…it’s in her frame. Who cares how she communicates, you’re a busy man you need to be in touch with people who matter, if she’s not available…someone else will be.

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      • on May 24, 2015 at 11:16 pm Benson

        Asking her “How do you communicate with people” comes off a bit needy…it’s in her frame.

        I agree. I still get that “Oh, fuck, I’m actually doing this right now” pang during some approaches. Sometimes that scrambles my brain a bit and dumb things are said. But it didn’t sink me this time; she contacted me later in the day yesterday.

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      • on May 24, 2015 at 11:44 pm walawala

        @Benson I get that too…but it’s also a balance of factors….that phrase is needy but if you delivered it with amused mastery, if you walked away if you were otherwise dominant in the interaction the words don’t matter as much as the tone does.

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      • on May 25, 2015 at 12:02 pm Benson

        @Benson I get that too…but words don’t matter as much as the tone does.

        Fucking mod. I said it evenly enough. I was too nervous to believe it at the time, but her tone and eye contact told me that she wasn’t lying.

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    • on May 22, 2015 at 8:39 pm Putin

      “Sweaty men riding horses is kind of my thing.”

      Nice

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      • on May 23, 2015 at 1:41 am Greg Eliot

        Standing in line behind him, I would have been sorely tempted to give him the ol’:

        “You fairy.”

        But I’m not one to cockblock.

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      • on May 23, 2015 at 2:12 am Benson

        Standing in line behind him, I would have been sorely tempted to give him the ol’:

        “You fairy.”
        .

        Said to the cute cashier: “I think it’s great that you serve the mentally disabled.”

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      • on May 23, 2015 at 8:10 am Greg Eliot

        That’s your rejoiner? That’s the best you got?

        She’d probably think you were talking about yourself.

        You fairy.

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      • on May 23, 2015 at 7:57 pm Benson

        I called her at the store today. She said she was busy, but looked my number up and just sent me this text:

        Hi. I don’t know if this is correct, but is this benson ? This is [hot girl].

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      • on May 24, 2015 at 4:34 pm Sentient

        Game on Benson.. she looked you up major IOI.

        You know the rest – set the meet instigate isolate escalate. sometimes great game is just not fucking things up.

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      • on May 24, 2015 at 5:18 pm Benson

        Game on Benson.. she looked you up major IOI.

        According to Greg and emaciator, I’m beyond dumb and she was just doing her job. She’s probably not interested. ha.

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      • on May 25, 2015 at 1:57 pm Putin

        “she looked you up major IOI.”- True that Benson. Also proves your perception of things was correct. It is more than words as you know.

        “According to xxx, I’m beyond dumb and she was just doing her job. She’s probably not interested. ha.”- Haters gonna hate, right?

        “That was good. I think you know there was a fair chance she would of given you her email. Either way good boldness.”- Yep, looks like the correct summation……

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      • on May 25, 2015 at 2:41 pm Benson

        Haters gonna hate, right?

        Indeed they will. This is becoming fun with practice. I’m starting to see the possibilities.

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      • on May 25, 2015 at 3:06 pm Putin

        “This is becoming fun with practice. I’m starting to see the possibilities.”-

        Absolutely.

        In my book 90% is just approaching which takes some boldness. Most men sit on the sideline just wishing they had the balls.

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      • on May 25, 2015 at 4:58 pm Benson

        In my book 90% is just approaching which takes some boldness. Most men sit on the sideline just wishing they had the balls.

        I’m was surprised by how foreign the concept of day game was to my friends. “Wait, you just asked for her number? After she made your coffee?”

        Approaching is just becoming a habit. It still makes me nervous, but it’s not the momentous task I was making it out to be.

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    • on May 23, 2015 at 7:25 am emaciator

      Um, she’s just doing her job, rocket surgeon. All that rapport you think you had with her was merely Five-Star Customer Service With A Smile. Beyond dumb.

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      • on May 23, 2015 at 8:11 am Greg Eliot

        Yep.

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      • on May 23, 2015 at 11:44 am Benson

        Um, she’s just doing her job, rocket surgeon. All that rapport you think you had with her was merely Five-Star Customer Service With A Smile. Beyond dumb.

        Maybe. But you don’t find out unless you try. Still, I think you’re wrong, after thinking about it a little more.

        That’s your rejoiner? That’s the best you got?

        She’d probably think you were talking about yourself.

        Context, reverend. In response to your gay joke it would have gone over well enough.

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      • on May 23, 2015 at 1:13 pm Greg Eliot

        Not really, because it makes no sense, except maybe in the minds of you South Park weaned dweebs.

        You say something about sweaty men on horses being your thing and get called a fairy… THAT makes sense.

        Come up with actual wit or stay home, kid… don’t try to snow the snow man.

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      • on May 23, 2015 at 1:40 pm Benson

        Come up with actual wit or stay home, kid… don’t try to snow the snow man.

        Maybe one day I can hope to be as insightful and witty as you are, Mr. Snowman.

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      • on May 24, 2015 at 9:06 am Greg Eliot

        One can always hope…

        Glad to be of inspiration.

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  26. on May 22, 2015 at 8:37 pm Putin

    Neocon nation

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-05-22/adult-friendfinder-hacked-federal-employees-allegedly-among-35-million-exposed

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  27. on May 22, 2015 at 9:04 pm Reservoir Tip

    Another anecdote from my time spent with the German:

    Me: “When you’ve dated clingy guys who were way to into you, what was most bothersome about it?”

    Her: “They didn’t have their own opinions. They never came forward with proposals or even opened their mouths. They would just walk in front of me (I was expecting behind), and do nothing. It pissed me off. I never even had an argument with one of them, because he agreed with everything I said. It was just so annoying.”

    I saw it said in another comment here, and it rings true that those that shower is with the most love and affection in our lives are the ones that we secretly resent on some level.

    Don’t make your love easily attainable, and even if it is, never let a girl know it.

    I answered: “You’re right. You know, I’ll probably never love you, and even if I do, you’ll never know it.”

    She’s booked a plane ticket to come see me.

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    • on May 23, 2015 at 6:59 pm stained class

      this is good

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  28. on May 22, 2015 at 9:47 pm Prof. Woland

    “Contrary popular but embittered feminist belief, men don’t dig bitches (unless they’re smoking hot).”

    The best thing about being a man is that if pussy is in enough surplus, you don’t even need to bother with the bitches even if they are 9’s ( I don’t give 10’s).

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  29. on May 22, 2015 at 10:53 pm rugby11ljh

    Best post yet.

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  30. on May 22, 2015 at 11:27 pm Matthew Chiglinsky

    Girls like jerks because they’re all rape victims with Stockholm Syndrome.

    People, both females and males, respect jerks because people are dumb animals driven by primal emotions. Respect really means fear.

    I’m a closeted misogynist.

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    • on May 23, 2015 at 8:06 am uh

      This was pretty good. You a Jew?

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    • on May 24, 2015 at 11:53 am no

      I’m a closet jerk so good at what I do nobody knows the diff.

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    • on May 25, 2015 at 9:24 pm TheBeyondBeyond

      In this modern age “jerk” = “uses critical thinking and makes their own decisions”, so: yeah.

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  31. on May 23, 2015 at 12:04 am Rum

    Rest in Peace, Michael Fuelner.

    All brave hovercraft racers are welcome in Vahalla.

    The WHC championship event in 2012 in Germany was an equally good time and place to die or to live.

    You saved MY life in Stockholm in 2008. I will remember that…

    Nevermind.

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  32. on May 23, 2015 at 12:27 am Diogenes the Cynic

    “Humans aren’t a rational species; they’re a rationalizing species.”

    Quote of the Month.

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  33. on May 23, 2015 at 5:04 am gunslingergregi

    The reason for the success of online streaming. youtube.com/watch?
    ”””””””

    jeez mobs of people everywhere maybe i shouldnt leave where i am at till i leave country he he he
    they shoot the bikers but not the mobs of blacks doh!

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    • on May 23, 2015 at 5:19 am gunslingergregi

      that type of shit dont happen in my town kind of interesting
      since we have a shitload of blacks

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      • on May 23, 2015 at 5:24 am gunslingergregi

        my counselor even told me ft lauderdale would be a bad place to go if trying to get away from drugs now and i was there less than ten years ago and it was nice and peaceful place wtf there really is gonna be nowhere to go to escape the mob he he he

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      • on May 23, 2015 at 5:53 am gunslingergregi

        well ok at the club lol but just yelling bla bla some knockout but no looting he he he

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      • on May 23, 2015 at 5:58 am gunslingergregi

        goes along with the post though give em credit they figured out if they get a mob to do shit they get away with it
        nice 300 jerks cant be stopped while one jerk by himself can be fucked with easy by the cops

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      • on May 23, 2015 at 9:21 am mendozatorres

        Yeah…good point

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    • on May 23, 2015 at 9:20 am mendozatorres

      Yeah, that was some surprising shit to say the least. I was looking at the guys book on Amazon. It’s all about shit like that that’s not getting reported.

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      • on May 24, 2015 at 11:06 am gunslingergregi

        im not surprized really it been going on i predicted this shit when i was first on the blog many moons ago
        its just happening fast and will happen faster i knew i needed to get the fuck out and have my escape route
        every town is being taken over
        mine just happened to be one of the first

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  34. on May 23, 2015 at 6:11 am Lew

    This bullshit gets tiresome after a while. You would think no one ever got laid until “game” came along. Gamers are so stupid it’s not surprising they need to fake not having defects that repell women.

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    • on May 23, 2015 at 6:13 am Lew

      Just being an asshole…

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    • on May 23, 2015 at 7:10 am Scroop

      Maybe you were one of the lucky ones in that everything came easy to you. If that is what happened, I’m not surprised you think it’s just so much bullshit. But I was one of the unlucky ones (though I don’t want to dwell on it) to whom everything came hard – confusing and humiliating. So when I dwell on game concepts and develop a game-eye-view perception of social dynamics, it really does produce a very different experience of the world for me. Like I had a great night (for me) tonight/last night, and it was 99% the result of seeing things in a different way compared to the mindset I used to go out in. It’s so easy to scoff at game claims because I’ll readily admit that sometimes it goes way overboard, but the core stuff is very real, which includes the subject of this thread, the “jerkboy” attitude. That’s not the best word for it because it has such heavily negative connotations. In reality, a lot of “jerkboy” behavior is actually pretty positive and definitely more “real” than devious trying-hard-to-please “nice guy” behavior.

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    • on May 24, 2015 at 2:27 am PWN

      Well, not everyone before game bit into the deluded idiocy of romance and men. My father doesn’t know what game is and he has it. lol

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    • on May 25, 2015 at 9:21 pm TheBeyondBeyond

      >was able to get laid before “game” came along

      Check your “I don’t have autism” privilege, buddy.

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  35. on May 23, 2015 at 7:43 am Choking Nurse Ratchet

    Cut through the obligatory hamstering and we have yet more CH real talk confirmed… http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-3086408/Tired-depressed-not-interested-sex-one-millions-women-don-t-realise-starting-MENOPAUSE.html

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    • on May 25, 2015 at 7:30 pm Sentient

      The biggest issue is left off… complete and utter denial.

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  36. on May 23, 2015 at 8:50 am Putin

    Benson, not in this case given she was a “younger college student”. I normally shame girls out of my place if they are 22 or younger. Tell them to go find a shaved ice or smoothie shop to hang out. When they get their big girl panties they can come hang with the adults. It is hard enough dealing with the neocon training they have which tells them to only date people their age. Along with the entitlement and brat attitude most of them have. Add to the mix that this gal had a shame buddy to remind her that she was wrong.

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  37. on May 23, 2015 at 8:54 am Anonymous

    Damn the mod to hell

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  38. on May 23, 2015 at 10:05 am Anonymous

    Isn’t technology wonderful. We are so smart.

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  39. on May 23, 2015 at 10:26 am gunslingergregi

    somewhere in america. #MemorialDayWeekend. 1977. (^_^) http://t.co/hhUmmQHgLg ””””””

    wait i was only two years old when i went to see star wars in the theatre wow
    thats wild i remember cousins were there we had all kinds of relatives in line to see it thought i was older than that

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  40. on May 23, 2015 at 10:58 am Anonymous

    I just think technology is so neat. You can just get on the computer and talk to each other. That is just cool.

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  41. on May 23, 2015 at 10:59 am Anonymous

    How can a blog stay in business when no one can post?

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    • on May 23, 2015 at 11:57 am PA

      I posted two pretty cool on-topic stories yesterday and a few minutes ago and both got eaten.

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      • on May 23, 2015 at 9:14 pm Sentient

        It’s becoming a problem, leads to less posting.

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      • on May 25, 2015 at 11:00 pm Greg Eliot

        It’s becoming a problem, leads to less posting.

        Which may not actually be a problem, in many cases. 😉

        Reminds me of an old Bob Dylan quote:
        “If pencils weighed ten pounds and a ream of paper costed $500, there’d be a helluva lot fewer songwriters… which wouldn’t be a bad thing.”

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      • on May 25, 2015 at 11:01 pm Greg Eliot

        Which wouldn’t necessarily be a bad thing.

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  42. on May 23, 2015 at 11:56 am PA

    Sexual jealousy psyops during WWII, as played by all sides:

    http://www.psywarrior.com/sexandprop.html

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    • on May 23, 2015 at 12:03 pm PA

      One startlingly clever piece of German propaganda shows a naked woman holding a newspaper in front of a mirror. TIMES reflected back spells…

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    • on May 24, 2015 at 8:00 am notalifeguard

      Interesting read, cheers.

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  43. on May 23, 2015 at 1:34 pm Malcolm X-Lax

    In F. Scott Fitzgerald’s last (but uncompleted) novel The Last Tycoon, there’s a memorable scene wherein the young movie executive protagonist Monroe Stahr (based supposedly on Irving Thalberg) explains how it is more important to seem decisive in decision-making than to actually make good decisions, that people will assume if you are decisive that you have good reason to be and they will accept that the decision is the correct (or best available) one; and part of this is a key to good leadership and the acceptance of that leadership role by others–i.e., fake it and others will follow.

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    • on May 24, 2015 at 9:11 am Greg Eliot

      The insider’s term is brazening it out.

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  44. on May 23, 2015 at 2:09 pm Rudeman

    “The answer: It depends. If he simply steals one cup of coffee for himself, his power affordance shrinks slightly. If, on the other hand, he steals the pot and pours cups for himself and the other person, his power affordance spikes sharply. People want this man as their leader.”

    Hello, betas and women voting for Socialists.

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    • on May 24, 2015 at 2:23 am PWN

      That’s all people. We evolved to like people who take other people’s shit and share it with us because we are tribal animals. Those who steal from out groups and share with in groups ARE better leaders.

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    • on May 24, 2015 at 5:19 am James Blonde

      you two sound like ni66ers; go get a room.

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      • on May 25, 2015 at 9:03 pm TheBeyondBeyond

        You three sound like butt-sex benefactors.

        Why don’t you all pour some honey in your anal cavities and have yourselfs a terrific tea-time threesome in a tent!

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  45. on May 23, 2015 at 5:38 pm gunslingergregi

    so todays list of free shit
    go to the bakey in new place and say give me two of something chick behind counter throws three in box
    she tells me they gonna throw em away anyway at the end of day
    i fuck with her about shouldnt they be giving them to the poor
    she says not today im to busy to do that
    i say she working to hard needs to come chill out with me
    she like yea im working two jobs
    bla bla
    yea jesus

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    • on May 23, 2015 at 5:46 pm gunslingergregi

      so then at gas station and i go in got to go bathroom big ass sign on the shit no public restroom like oh noo’ssss
      i go to front you guys got a key or something
      chick behind counter yea hands it to me winks at me
      i handle my business he he he
      go outside light a cig
      chick out there smoking
      come out of the blue with i get off at 12
      i say maybe we should hang out then
      she says i got a boyfriend im going night fishing
      but it gonna be hard on a motorcylle
      dont know where to put the poles i tell i’ve done that before ya just put em under your leg out the back
      talk about army and shit her ex was a marine
      i tell her my girl in jail she asks what for
      then she like i got to go back in
      asks me my name
      then gives me hers

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      • on May 24, 2015 at 12:10 pm mendozatorres

        I’m turning all of this into a song

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      • on May 24, 2015 at 12:34 pm no

        Classic red neck gas station pickup 101. I have seen that before.

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  46. on May 24, 2015 at 2:22 am PWN

    Offtopic, but is it just me who finds half Jewish, half white girls to have sort of slutty looking faces due to the sort of Jewish lips, but being otherwise pretty? E.g. Nicola Peltz(girl from Transformers).

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  47. on May 24, 2015 at 7:26 am DavidS

    That was one of the best articles I have read in a long time…from the Atlantic of all places.

    The article makes a key point that a lot of newbie red-pill types forget: people like jerks with charm and who give to the group. Nobody (women included) like an angry and bitter asshole creep.

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  48. on May 24, 2015 at 10:02 am henry himbeere

    Will read later. I know already it’s excellent material. I have a question I have thought long about but never articulated. Maybe you have an answer. I kind of have answers, but I want it explained, clarified, sorted out. We who don’t believe in right and wrong per se, and we don’t believe in common conventional morality or ethics, as its not working and doesn’t work. We (and I only partially include myself- I’m not fully there yet but I smell water), we get the joys and pleasures of good women and life and fun, so why do we want to share? I know there is no scarcity, we are not hoarders of secrets, but do you want this understanding to be democratized? Do you see it making society better? In other words, why? What drives you, you altruist?!

    Yeah maybe society as a whole improves, becomes more manly, women become more naturally attractive and demure, our society starts functioning and rocking it again, and you save decent guys from unnecessary depression and frustration. But logic would say you wouldn’t share and try, unless you were political, not necessarily because of greedy and selfishness but just because it takes work, and how does it payoff? Does it bring a sadistic pleasure?! I get it, I just can’t explain it with words. My masculine intuition says we must destroy! But I can’t articulate why we shouldn’t be more selfish and stop caring about the message getting out. And first I need to get the message all the way in! I’m not just being overly humble either assholes. I mean that.

    Thxs for your Blog.
    see Carolus rise

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  49. on May 24, 2015 at 11:17 am fakeemail

    Human extinction can’t get here soon enough

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  50. on May 24, 2015 at 12:28 pm no

    No introduction. I get in a girls face a tell her to give me her number. She says hell no. I say no way around that. She says who are you. I say your next mistake. She laughs and gives me her number.

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    • on May 24, 2015 at 1:44 pm Treezus

      I’ve gotten maybe as a hundred numbers by similar means. 99% of them flake because they invested very little into the interaction. It’s a great way to get a bunch of girls who just want to text with you but never meet up, girls looking for more orbiters, and, of course, many girls who never even respond. Any quality girl has so many men on her clit that she isn’t going to waste time with the dude that gave her a little tingle for 30 seconds of her life.

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      • on May 24, 2015 at 4:36 pm Sentient

        i encourage guys to focus on ONS game when starting out. Hone your skills… avoid the false promise of a lots of numbers. There is a place for numbers and day 2’s of course.

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      • on May 24, 2015 at 5:19 pm no

        No strategy I just feel like doing something I do it.

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  51. on May 25, 2015 at 7:10 am heavypendulum

    hey CH, was wondering if you could help spread the word for this petition to allow South Africans the right to return to Europe. need all the help we can get. thanks.

    https://www.change.org/p/european-commission-allow-all-white-south-africans-the-right-to-return-to-europe

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