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An Homage To One Of Film’s Most Iconic Alpha Male Jerkboys

May 25, 2015 by CH

Reader Chris from Dublin pens a stirring love letter to one of 20th Century filmdom’s most iconic (and loveable) alpha male jerkboys, and in the penning touches upon the abiding Heartistian sexual market truths that infuse the movie The Breakfast Club.

It was really only a matter of time before the Chateau would focus on John Bender of ‘The Breakfast Club’.

John Bender , brilliantly played by Judd Nelson (who was 26 at the time of shooting), easily ranks alongside Marlon Brando in ‘The Wild One’ and James Dean in ‘Rebel Without A Cause’ as one of the great cinema badboys, arguably the best of all because of his gritty suburban realism. It is deplorable that Nelson was not at least nominated for an Oscar for his performance and if he does no other work of note, ‘The Breakfast Club’ remains an outstanding achievement of his.

‘The Breakfast Club’ is John Hughes’s best film with a completeness that his other great work, ‘Ferris Bueller’s Day Off’, slightly lacks. What both films share is an enigmatic and deeply charismatic central character around whom the rest of the film orbits. ‘Ferris Bueller’s Day Off’ lacks the ensemble quality of script or performance of ‘The Breakfast Club’ and is also more of a straightforward fantasy (with it being generally accepted that Ferris Bueller is Cameron’s alter-ego, the man who the trapped and frustrated Cameron wants to be). Ferris Bueller is a far less likeable character than John Bender and, although no high-school bowsie like Bender would, in real life, possess the wit and articulacy that Nelson’s character has, this is no shortcoming of the film – it is, as the Chateau points out, a fantasy.

John Bender has an advantage over the characters played by Brando and Dean because, if for no other reason, ‘The Breakfast Club’ has a higher production standard than those films of the 1950’s and, as such, it is easier to watch. By the time John Hughes came around to the height of his career a more liberal attitude and practice had entered mainstream cinema allowing ‘The Breakfast Club’ to use explicit language and themes which would not have been considered in the 1950’s.

In terms of finding alpha moments, ‘The Breakfast Club’ has probably one of the richest repositories of such of any mainstream film. Bender spends nearly all of the film pissing off Princess Claire (Molly Ringwald) but the sexual tension between them grows incrementally and it becomes more and more obvious that Bender has seriously burrowed into her psyche – hear those tingles chime. When Brian interrupts their sexy ‘Moliere’ moment, Bender flings a damaged book at him in rage, but the sexual frisson is unmistakable.

As interesting is the vicious rivalry between Bender and Andrew Clarke (played by Emilio Estevez), the straight and serious beta jock who initially hits on Claire but gets politely declined.

Here’s why ‘The Breakfast Club’ is such a hit – it depicts the three levels of existence:-

Alpha: Bender and Claire
Beta: Andrew / Sporto and Alison / Emo (and they end up getting it on together by the end. Classic beta – Andrew doesn’t get alpha girl and has to settle).
Omega: Brian (who ends up getting nobody).

In that regard it is wrong to describe Brian as the beta nice-guy – Brian is the omega, while Andrew is the beta. Brian knows that he has no chance with an alpha female like Claire and can only fantasise, as Bender exposes him for doing, to his even greater shame. Andrew is not a nice-guy as such but he is a beta insofar as he is committed to conforming and playing within the system. Also his particular type of beta-dom manifests as butt-hurt and bitter rather than ‘nice-guy’. Remember that Brian ended up in detention for having a gun in his locker because he wanted to commit suicide. Andrew ended up in detention because he attacked a weaker boy in the locker room, very likely a subconscious manifestation of his frustration at having been pushed into an athletic lifestyle, to get a scholarship, that he did not want. Indeed, Bender makes a laugh of this scholarship nonsense during the film when he arses around in the gym and is taunting the deputy principal. This is another instance of Bender’s alpha-dom – he has taken a hit for the group by distracting the deputy principal (a great performance from Paul Gleason) while he lays on cannabis for the rest of the group (and see how that would go down in today’s America … !) As an alpha, the young prince is bestowing his weed upon the minions.

This film was released in 1985 and I remember that it made a huge impression upon us over here in Ireland – we were amazed to see how short Judd Nelson really is in real life (the photography had hidden this very well). At the time I was twelve, attending a bourgeois Roman catholic all-boys’ secondary school in Dublin, and Bender was like something from the space age, the man we all wanted to be, or to have like us. In hindsight our school was a deeply damaging environment of papist omega-dom and, in particular, our form teacher was a disgusting omega worm – unmarried, he spent his whole life in the school, engaged in the various ‘activities’ that seem to obsess such places and he boasted of how he had devoted himself to the “welfare of the boys” (* crickets *). I hated him from the start and it is interesting to recall that the other John Bender types at school felt the same way, and wanted nothing to do with him. That school was no proper environment for any impressionable teenage boy and it is significant that I felt the same way then as I do now, in my forties. As a place where adolescents could be moulded to cope with the realities of life it was hopeless and was no example for any boy.

Ultimately John Bender will always be a fantasy character, as the Chateau freely admits, but his defiance remains as inspirational and relevant today as ever before, leaving ‘The Breakfast Club’ as one of the greatest teen movies of all time.

Although the term beta gets tossed around here a bit cavalierly (as a matter of convenience and artistic license), in reality most beta males will wind up with a girl in their lives. The problem is that it will rarely be their first choice. (Omega males are the men who can spend years tormented by their incel.)

Game, or learned charisma, offers beta males the tools to increase their dating market purchasing power and thus to decrease the odds they will have to settle, or to settle very far down the female ladder. Charisma can help all men, but I believe the biggest benefactors are betas, due in part to their lower initial obstacles and to the law of diminishing returns (that latter being the reason why natural alphas are often given to scoffing at game).

In TBC, Bender was an alpha male… he got the hot girl that other guys wanted. Bender was also a specific class of alpha: The lone wolf, rule-breaking, leader of women alpha male who, I understand, would be called a Sigma Male by Vox Day.

In every respect, Bender was that cynical, aloof jerkboy chicks have a habit of falling hard for. He may not have been the most noble, or admirable, or competent man — he may even have had his personal moral and character failings that would disqualify him from leading men — but no one ever claimed that the alpha male was necessarily a paragon of virtue, nor that women would never choose men of Bender’s unruly temperament and poor character over better men. If we were to judge women’s characters by the men for whom they freely divulge their sex, I’d say the ledger of self-abasement is represented equally by the sexes.

Off-topic, Chris adds,

***** OTHER NEWS:-

Social meltdown has hit Ireland. There is a level of social unrest across middle Ireland, across the type of people who would never cause trouble in their wildest dreams, that is unprecedented. There is a particular type of person who, when they become angry, release all hell. It’s not entering the mainstream media of the UK or North America, because the powers that be are too scared. When Ireland explodes it will take the rest of the world with it – it’s begun.

Look up “Irish Water” and “Irish Water protests”.

Bring the flames …

Any Irish CH readers know something about this? What a teaser…

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  1. on May 25, 2015 at 10:28 pm tspark156

    TBC and Irish Water, both are worth watching

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    • on May 26, 2015 at 4:44 am irishsavant

      Chris speaks of mass social unrest. Maybe. But I don’t see it. The Irish Water issue relates to another Government Quango with the usual juicy employment and pensions terms, performance bonuses (ha!), overstaffing. The usual stuff here.

      But the militant opposition derives from something very prosaic. Everybody wants “the state” (i.e. somebody else) to pay for their domestic water which up to now has been ‘free’. This doth not a societal upheaval presage. Revolution is not in the air.

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    • on May 26, 2015 at 9:40 am Captain Obvious

      So whaddup wit “Irish Water” versus this vote to legalize sodomy and sapphistry?

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      • on May 27, 2015 at 5:34 pm haunted trilobite

        It can henceforth be known as Soddom and Begorrah.

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    • on May 26, 2015 at 9:44 am Suburban_elk

      I wanted to troll here a bit, but the selected comment wins.

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  2. on May 25, 2015 at 10:40 pm rugby11ljh

    She’s looking at you kid

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  3. on May 25, 2015 at 10:59 pm jr

    Ireland is being broken by mass immigration by the usual suspects:

    http://nwioqeqkdf.blogspot.com/2015/01/alan-shatter-irelands-barbara-spectre.html

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    • on May 26, 2015 at 7:46 am Glengarry

      Ireland recently wrote gay marriage into the constitution, so all in all it’s pretty well pozzed.

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    • on May 26, 2015 at 4:45 pm Hilary Clinton

      Mix legalize sodomy as used to smarmy ratface ykw shatter shoving kosher sausage up their @ss for decades.

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  4. on May 25, 2015 at 11:12 pm sun

    cries over teacher,

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  5. on May 25, 2015 at 11:17 pm William Perkins

    Brando or Dean definitely wouldn’t have cried over the detention teacher wanting to brawl.

    If Nelson was so alpha in the movie, the screenwriters would have included a scene alluding to him obviously banging her.

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  6. on May 25, 2015 at 11:45 pm Stationarity

    Could we get John Bender for Speaker of the House? Ladies and Gentlemen, Speaker John Bender.

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  7. on May 26, 2015 at 12:18 am Mycroft Jones

    Charge for water, like North America has been doing for ages: riots.
    Legalize gay marriage: celebration.

    Yep, those Irish… Makes one prefer to be one of the Mutt People (cf Joe Bageant)

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  8. on May 26, 2015 at 12:37 am Lex Corvus

    FWIW, Wikipedia and IMDB both list Judd Nelson at 5’10”. Even if they’re exaggerating by a couple of inches, that still wouldn’t make him particularly short.

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    • on May 26, 2015 at 12:53 am BC

      Especially since Emilio Estevez is 5’4″ + maybe 1/2″

      Also, the above write-up was very interesting, as I had always thought of Andrew in TBC as alpha, simply because jock/letter man. But in retrospect, yeah, at most he is a greater beta because he is a follower, although in certain circumstances he may rise a situational (lesser) alpha depending on how much the TBC events unscrewed his head. Huh, interesting.

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      • on May 26, 2015 at 9:39 am Captain Obvious

        My big problem here [as regards the actual Real World of Reality as it actually exists] would be in promoting marijuana use over participation in sports. An opiate-driven society will be defeated by an aerobic-driven society EVERY. D@MN. TIME. It’s what Dick Vitale would call a “No Contest, Baby.” Or, as Wellington said, “Waterloo was won on the playing fields of Eton.”

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      • on May 26, 2015 at 10:17 am Bobby Cuddlefuck aka The Hamster Whisperer

        Marijuana is not an opiate. It is from God. Jah praise. What is it Bill Hicks said about people who don’t like drugs? Go burn all your music.

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      • on May 26, 2015 at 7:50 pm Captain Obvious

        Right, but the sentence doesn’t read as well if you say, “tetrahydrocannabinol-driven society”.

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    • on May 26, 2015 at 5:59 am PA

      Andrew is a second-tier member of a first-tier clique. Membership matters. Alpha by default, if not always when out of his element.

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      • on May 26, 2015 at 2:46 pm Suburban_elk

        Andrew is a second-tier member of a first-tier clique.

        That’s pretty good, but don’t go all recursive on us.

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    • on May 26, 2015 at 6:03 am PA

      That said, Andrew being a teenager, he has the biggest potential. He was out of his element in detention and held his ground (and physically dominated) the wild and unpredictable Bender. He has a conscience, given his regret for having humiliated a weaker kid earlier. His character is a proto-alpha.

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  9. on May 26, 2015 at 12:37 am Alastor

    The island of Ireland has been wanking itself senseless to its own SJW self righteousness over the last few days. Its been beyond sickening. There’ll be no resistance here, that I can guarantee. Enrichment continues unabated, we just had Africa day here, no joke. The water thing is just a bullshit distraction which everyone will pay after they’ve complained about it like cunts first.

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    • on May 26, 2015 at 12:49 am Donohoe

      It’s amusing, cause it’s meant to be such a Catholic Country

      My gramps is on his local county mayo ‘water committee’ and it’s causing distrust between them as well – people he’s known for over 50 years

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      • on May 26, 2015 at 1:02 am Donohoe

        They need a Michael Collins to pull them out of the Lazarus pit.

        Sadly they’d look around and see nothing but big burly ginger Irish men who ticked ‘yes’ on the gay marriage bill because it’s ‘new’ and ‘modern’

        There’s a reason it hasn’t been legal for 2000 years…

        Are we any smart than Jesus or Socrates was? we know more shit, and we’ve got more time to waste on discussing what gender someone wants to identify with – to the detriment of the people and other countries

        This Monty python pisstake sketch had it right all along

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      • on May 26, 2015 at 9:46 am Captain Obvious

        The Catholic Church went up against Modernity and Modernity won in a first-round knockout. Ratzinger tried to take on the burden of all those millenia of legalism, and it crushed him. Now the Jesuits are hiring the Pharisees to write the Jesuitical propaganda: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3291368/posts

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      • on May 26, 2015 at 10:04 am Greg Eliot

        Top Vatican adviser Jeffrey Sachs…

        Wow… just… wow.

        Somebody just shoot me now. 😡

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      • on May 26, 2015 at 10:11 am Captain Obvious

        Yeah, when I saw that story, I almost fell out of my chair.

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      • on May 26, 2015 at 10:35 am Laguna Beach Fogey

        We’re going to have to have another Revolution.

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      • on May 26, 2015 at 11:10 am Greg Eliot

        You spelled Endlösung, wrong.

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    • on May 26, 2015 at 4:47 am irishsavant

      Well I’ve done my bit to make our enrichers feel right at home on Africa Day.

      Every little bit helps.
      http://irishsavant.blogspot.ie/2015/05/celebrating-africa-day-in-ireland.html

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    • on May 26, 2015 at 6:59 am Anonymous

      very true, people have been behaving like gay marriage is the greastest thing since sliced bread. we got to see a vile snarky bullying leftist campaign to get it voted in

      the water charge protesters are mostly unemployed people on welfare, people who actually work and pay taxes think they are a bunch of wasters. they wont cause much of a stir

      problem with ireland is we give way too much in dole, its more economical for alot of people to sit on their arses rather than go and work because the differerence in money is so small

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    • on May 26, 2015 at 8:20 am martin

      agreed, the gay marriage vote made its rounds in the media and the absolutely horrid handshake between Charles and Gerry Adams was simply too much. for what it’s worth it seems like every Catholic nation is full of sjw’s.

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      • on May 26, 2015 at 12:20 pm shartiste

        Anecdotally, I find Americans descended from countries of traditionally catholic ancestry are the least likely to be white guilt-laden SJWs. Nobody is more racist than Italians, and I mean that as a compliment.

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      • on May 26, 2015 at 1:36 pm drunicusrex

        We mackerel snappers are like any Caucasian, Jesuitical conspiracies notwithstanding.
        After we make a little money and have a little of what passes for uni education, we start to feel bad for the helpless and the horrible.
        Hence, “SJWs,” a strange alliance between rich college kids and the great unwashed/oppressed/people who can’t pass up carbs.
        What’s bizarre is our clergy’s opposition to gay marriage. This is probably because they still want to be able to cheat on their boyfriends.

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  10. on May 26, 2015 at 12:48 am burke

    chateau still hasn’t covered another super-alpha bender character

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    • on May 26, 2015 at 8:42 am mendozatorres

      YES!

      “Compare your lives to mine then kill yourselves.” -Bender

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    • on May 26, 2015 at 10:00 am 88

      nice

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  11. on May 26, 2015 at 1:15 am walawala

    I was watching Curb Your Enthusiasm, season 2. It struck me that for all his kvetching, Larry David is awesome at “agree and amplify”.

    Also, the kind of amused mastery he displays towards his hot wife is a great learning point.

    here’s classic beta with alpha game tecniques

    Here’s how he gets her hamster spinning:

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  12. on May 26, 2015 at 1:21 am walawala

    Larry David COULD be so alpha…WHAT he says is undermined by HOW he says it….

    Check this out…

    it’s all in the delivery.

    If I was doing this…I would have said “Cha Cha” with amused mastery…and just sat back and smirked.

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    • on May 26, 2015 at 2:53 am Mr Meaner

      Larry David’s “social assassin” personality applied to mixed gatherings can net you some really good results.

      That “mild male autism” as Ricky Gervais once called it, means people often mistake his actual seriousness for humour. Comedic writers like Chuck Lorre have used this phemonen to great effect, with characters like Sheldon Cooper, and the characters on Two and a Half Men (A lot the humour on these shows is characters taking things literally when they’re not supposed to.)

      In romantic one-on-one settings, it can, and often is, disastrous for Larry on Curb. His persona with women is one of constantly failing shit-tests (for comedic effect).

      When it comes to women, it’s a case of “What Would Larry Do” and then do the opposite.

      Classic example here, when Cheryl asks him if he likes big asses.

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  13. on May 26, 2015 at 1:24 am Skinner

    Yup, the Irish got put up against the wall by the IMF and EU on behalf of German (read YKW) bankers in 07/08. They doubled down on the Catholic guilt (“We all partied… except we all didn’t”) and did what they were told. They are now barely better of than Spain or Portugal as a result despite taking the pain of massive austerity. Meanwhile, Abramovich et al are sucking hundreds of billions (no typo) out of a nation of 4 million people. The latest wheeze cooked up by the state is to implement triple taxation on water (the water charges referred to above.) Triple because water is already charged for twice in the Irish system via various taxation formats. This may well prove to be the final straw for a nation destroyed by mass immigration and poz, and deliberately bankrupted for the benefit of the few, all in one generation.

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    • on May 26, 2015 at 8:41 am irishsavant

      As far as I know Ireland was the only country that was forced (by the ECB in this instance) to pay off subordinate bondholders IN FULL.

      Criminal behaviour.

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      • on May 26, 2015 at 1:28 pm Skinner

        We owed more to YKW.
        People deserve to be shot for treachery for what they did in 07/08. Of course, not one single gobshite has been prosecuted.

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  14. on May 26, 2015 at 2:02 am Just Some Dude

    Does any African nation celebrate European Day?

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  15. on May 26, 2015 at 2:14 am An Homage To One Of Film’s Most Iconic Alpha Male Jerkboys | Reaction Times

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  16. on May 26, 2015 at 3:07 am aussiethinker69

    I have a female friend who is pining after a natural. She has been faithful to him (even though they aren’t in a relationship) for about a year, and she knows he sleeps with other girls! She thinks he is ‘the One’. I’ll also point out she is a HB9.5, so she can have basically whomever she wants.

    I’ve tried snapping her out of it, but it is fucking hard. One day I want to be like this guy.

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    • on May 26, 2015 at 9:17 am burke

      nothing to snap her out of, she’s exactly where every atom in her wants to be

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      • on May 26, 2015 at 9:53 am Captain Obvious

        And therein lies the problem – she doesn’t have an innate revulsion at his behavior. This chick has sh!t for a visceral sense of the difference between right and wrong, and that sh!t would amount to half of all the DNA which your children with her would be carrying throughout their lives. DO NOT MARRY A WOMAN WHO HAS SH!T FOR CHARACTER. And if you’re a father, then do not allow your beautiful daughters to grow up to be that poor stupid c*nt.

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    • on May 26, 2015 at 9:29 am 88

      burke is right.

      and if she truly is as hot as you say, she has probably had guys tripping over themselves to get to her all her life. finding someone who finally meets her match is like a godsend to her.

      it’s no different than if we were always surrounded by girls who were below our league and we were getting unwanted attention from them but from no girls that were decent. then when you do finally encounter someone in your league or higher. someone you think is different…special, you’re going to feel alive like never before. can’t really blame the girl. she’s probably bored out of her mind with most men.

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    • on May 26, 2015 at 9:38 am Sentient

      “One day I want to be like this guy.” …

      Then try this here “she knows he sleeps with other girls!”… my guess is Mr. Natural is not pining for this girl…LOL. Be THAT guy then…

      and BTW no guy can compete with a woman’s projected fantasy… familiarity breeding contempt and all… requires lots of ongoing LTR game… and living a dynamic, passionate and authentic life.

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      • on May 26, 2015 at 10:20 am Bobby Cuddlefuck aka The Hamster Whisperer

        “No guy can compete with a woman’s projected fantasy.” Brilliant

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      • on May 26, 2015 at 11:26 am aussiethinker69

        I may have worded it poorly. I don’t mean I want to be that guy for *this* girl. I want his game. I want to be what he is to this chick, to other chicks.

        Other than that, I totally agree with you.

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      • on May 26, 2015 at 11:54 am Sentient

        @Aussie – yes the advice is not for this girl… it is in general. Be the guy who doesn’t care, who doesn’t pedestalize pussy, and you will get more of it…

        But I suspect you have a lot of inner game issues to deal with first, from your post below.

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    • on May 26, 2015 at 9:49 am Captain Obvious

      > “I’ve tried snapping her out of it, but it is fucking hard.” It sounds like you’re the Beta orbiter.

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      • on May 26, 2015 at 11:24 am aussiethinker69

        Ha! No, I’m not touching her with a ten foot pole. The point is, I know she is going to get nothing except bad shit out of this, so I’m trying to help her, ya feel?

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      • on May 26, 2015 at 11:56 am Sentient

        Here you go Aussie… take your White Knight Award and go home…

        I mean there’s beta orbiting and then there’s White Knight Beta orbiting…

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      • on May 26, 2015 at 12:39 pm Bobby Cuddlefuck aka The Hamster Whisperer

        Sentient you’re on fire today

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      • on May 27, 2015 at 8:51 am Captain Obvious

        > “I’m trying to help her, ya feel?” What I’m feeling is that you have feelings for her, and as we’re all trying to warn you, this c*nt is NOT worth having feelings for. Seek out and find [and make your own] a higher quality of female than this. Again, would you want the mother of your children to have a history of putting up with this sort of humiliation? Your women need to have a little more pride than that. A little more backbone. A little more moxie. Remember, fully half of what your children will be is inherited from their mother.

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    • on May 26, 2015 at 1:36 pm Sean Fielding

      “I have a female friend….”

      Speaking astronomically, it sounds more like you have a primary. You need to go into escape orbit from the whole idea of ‘female friends’ and learn some Game. Then and only then, you might be able to pull some actual female friends.

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    • on May 26, 2015 at 3:54 pm walawala

      @aussiethinker I’ve found that the more you try to “snap” a girl out of liking a douchebag…the more she’ll chase after him.

      There’s a lot of PUA stuff on “boyfriend destroyer” material.

      But logic doesn’t work on girls….ever.

      Sounds like you need to stop pining away for her and start focusing on you. Classic case of oneitis. I’ve been there.

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      • on May 27, 2015 at 12:57 am aussiethinker69

        Cheers for your reasonable comment dude. I’ll happily admit I need to work on myself more.

        I have no idea what the fuck I must have written, but all I was trying to do was comment on a real life example of an alpha that I have witnessed. Seems that for people here “helping a girl out” = “after her”. Are the two really mutually exclusive?

        I mean, I’m new to Game and everything, but that is just whack.

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      • on May 27, 2015 at 1:30 am walawala

        @aussie “helping” a girl out by talking her out of being with some “alpha natural” is the definition of White Knighting.

        No judgments but question: What do you hope to talk her out of? Her desires? Desire is not “negotiable”…. When attraction is “triggered” it’s on.

        That’s why the harder you try to get a girl to NOT like you, the clingier she gets. Think about it.

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    • on May 26, 2015 at 9:20 pm aufeis

      Can we all please stop saying “sleeps with”?

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  17. on May 26, 2015 at 3:13 am Drago Fucking Milovechek

    This “so called” man who write about womans film, “Chris”? I can fix him.

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  18. on May 26, 2015 at 3:27 am Glittertind

    What I find interesting is that by reading this comment I can say with certainty that the author is nowhere near the level of alphaness exhibited by the Bender character. I’m not even sure exactly why (and I won’t bother to analyze it), but I know that this guy wouldn’t have the non-verbals of a king that so defines (or reveals) the alpha male. So many men, both in and outside the community, overestimate their own confidence or degree of alphaness (and not in the good way, i.e. overconfidence as mentioned in several posts here). Either they lack an understanding of the subtle art of non-verbal communication or they do know what an overconfident man looks like, but are unable to bring it out in themselves. Somewhere between theory and practice there is a loss of connection. And I’m not even saying that I’m perfect at this myself, it’s just that it’s funny how everyone who’s read a little bit about game or who has a little bit experience with the opposite sex thinks he’s a Casanova.

    [CH: well that settles it!]

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  19. on May 26, 2015 at 4:04 am shmiggen

    Ireland celebrates its Easter Rebellion next year and there is the possibility of a Sinn Fein government. However, I don’t believe Ireland will change the entire world. It will, for a small island, make some headlines, though.

    The water rebellion, in my opinion, is all about re-enacting 1916. Charging money for water brings back memories of carrying water for the landed gentry while the native Catholics struggle. But the rebellion was never completed. The British were kicked out and the wealthy connected Irish simply replaced them and sit in Leinster House, a British creation. It’s fair to say that the Irish are confused. As one of the comments here says, they just celebrated “Africa Day”. And gay marriage has just been legalized. If I’m not mistaken, abortion was also recently made legal. All this from Ireland, once the light and flower of Europe for traditional Catholicism. Chris is mistaken that Ireland will change the world; the world has changed Ireland.

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  20. on May 26, 2015 at 5:05 am Laguna Beach Fogey

    Awesome write-up. None of the characters is particularly sympathetic. Even Bender, who is praised as an Alpha male here, comes across as emotional, damaged, and with daddy issues. And yet it remains a compelling, influential film, at least to Gen X.

    I had a somewhat similar RC education as ‘Chris from Dublin,’ but made up for it on weekends and holidays. And a lot of the Jesuit priests and lay instructors who taught us were actually pretty cool. An even stronger dampening influence on my natural tendencies was being forced as a little boy to attend Confraternity of Christian Doctrine (CCD) classes.

    Re: Ireland. Middle class resistance is fine, if a little too late. Nothing will change unless there’s a genuine Nationalist revolt or coup d’etat by the police and armed forces. If it doesn’t involve force and violence, it doesn’t count. Fantasy? Not at all: history is unpredictable.

    What would John Bender do?

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  21. on May 26, 2015 at 5:50 am PA

    “He may not have been the most noble, or admirable, or competent man”

    Which confirms that free female reproductive choice leads to r-slection.

    The genius of the Bender character was the realistic depiction of his vulnerability. There is a temptation in film to make the charismatic lead larger than life and perfect. Tom Cruise’s lawyer character in “A Few Good Men,” for example, is like that. He makes you see his legal team partners as superfluous.

    But Bender’s weak side is shown when Andrew easily manhandles him with a wrestling move, or when he’s afraid to hit the principal when invited to do so.

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    • on May 26, 2015 at 6:09 am Sentient

      Female choice will gravitate to that which is dynamic, passionate and authentic. The societal background or role of the man is irrelevant.

      There is a tendency for we men to project the more noble aspects of our character when describing alpha but women look past that.

      The eagle scout driven CEO, the indie musician, the drug dealing gang banger… Strip away everything and you will find these things – dynamic, passionate and authentic.

      Bender was these things even if his authenticity underscored his cowardice.

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      • on May 26, 2015 at 7:49 am Glengarry

        The key is sincerity. Once you can fake that, you’ve got it made.

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      • on May 26, 2015 at 8:13 am Sentient

        sincerity is authenticity… Authentic doesn’t necessarily mean truthful either…

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      • on May 26, 2015 at 8:26 am James blonde

        Sentient with a top shelf observation; pay attention class.

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      • on May 26, 2015 at 8:46 am mendozatorres

        Reminds me of a saying I say a while back: follow your passion and the women will follow.

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      • on May 26, 2015 at 9:50 am Greg Eliot

        Look, you guys can make all the cutesy-cutesy observations you wish… and you certainly have the right to your own forms of n1663r jive…

        But you don’t have the right to your own dictionaries:

        Sincerity:
        The quality of being free from pretense, deceit, or hypocrisy.
        synonyms: honesty, genuineness, truthfulness, integrity, probity, trustworthiness;

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  22. on May 26, 2015 at 6:01 am stained class

    an ex popped back into my radar recently.

    we hooked up over the wknd, i stayed the night, drove her to work in the morn as it was on my way home.

    i texted her, sleep fucked, probs an hour after I dropped her off:

    me: im goin to fuck u so hard u can’t walk for days

    her: Uhh but I can’t take time off work.. seriously

    me: (sleep fucked, texted wrong person) no worries

    couple hrs later, me: woke up saw i msgs wrng person.. not reading u – was that a flirt or r u actually saying u got no time (bitch works A LOT)

    her: Wait the fucking message or the no worries?

    me: heh. no worries

    her: Oh! Okay. And it was a joke, saying that if I couldn’t walk id have to take time off work..

    me: swing by the base on ur way home (i’m @ police academy an hr away from her, she’s driving her rents car home thursday)

    her: That’s like opposite

    me: good dick is hard to come by

    her: lol some would say

    me: ur livin proof

    no response from her – prob should have thrown in a shit eating grin emoticon at the end of my last text.. – should I shoot a text in a couple weeks time, drop it altogether, or send some bullshit feeler text in a week.

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    • on May 26, 2015 at 11:51 am Sentient

      again with the same ex you been going on about?

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      • on May 26, 2015 at 2:11 pm stained class

        nah, different one.

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    • on May 26, 2015 at 3:57 pm walawala

      @stained glass

      The fact she’s an “ex” and you fired off something so blatant after banging her activated her ASD.

      Leave it, let her re-engage. You don’t have to be so blatant. She gets what this is about. Dial it down. Also, focus on new girls, stop going back….

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      • on May 26, 2015 at 5:36 pm stained class

        Thanks.

        Yeah, it was blatant and over the top. I’ve never done that with her – figured I’d experiment. Looks like it failed, lovely.

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      • on May 26, 2015 at 6:27 pm walawala

        You had her at “can’t walk for days”….

        You over-played it. I’ve done this. Takes time to undo. Leave it until she re-engages—which she will. Then just set up a meet up as normal.

        I think you’re confusing “asshole game” with “asshole”… and over-gaming her.

        I usually make one outrageous comment, then leave it. It’s like a kitten with a ball of string…give her the whole ball of string and she gets bored…

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  23. on May 26, 2015 at 6:21 am Eliezer Ben Yehuda

    AWALT. And nothing ever changes. Women want to be fecund, just like they did in the Court of King David:

    http://www.businessinsider.com/the-ultimate-status-symbol-is-a-big-family-2015-5

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    • on May 26, 2015 at 6:33 am PA

      I was in NYC on Saturday. Central Park and also the park in East Village was full of white kids. On the subway I saw a young attractive couple that almost looked college-aged and the girl, a classic sorority blonde, had third trimester belly.

      That last example is interesting in light of a particular experience I had twelve years ago: I saw a nice looking college-aged girl with a toddler and my immediate thought was that she’s a foreign au pair.

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      • on May 26, 2015 at 8:44 am irishsavant

        I hope that classic sorority blonde didn’t have any genetically debased offspring?

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      • on May 26, 2015 at 9:14 pm Eliezer Ben Yehuda

        >> I hope that classic sorority blonde didn’t have any genetically debased offspring?

        In the 1890’s, the Irish had a small run of outstandingly insightful mathematical-physicists. Well, ok, maybe it was just Fitzgerald. But his contributions to electromagentic theory were crucial world-changing.

        Unlike =this= “Irish Savant”, Fitzgerald would have known not to judge the bloodline by the “current” color-spectrum of the hair on the top…..

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  24. on May 26, 2015 at 6:28 am Johnny Boy

    I don’t agree that Andrew had to “settle” for the lesser girl, or that his character is beta. Ally Sheedy’s emo Alison is way hotter than Claire and if Bender had any standards he would have focused on her instead. At least Andrew had appreciably higher standards. And unlike Bender, Andrew doesn’t wallow in self-pity and seems to understand the concept of personal responsibility. My favorite part is when Andrew calls Bender out on his whining bullshit when he goes off on how his dad supposedly beats him.

    [CH: perception in films plays a role. in the movie, Claire was the established “it” girl. She was the girl all the guys wanted. (IRL, the made-up ally sheedy would probably turn more heads.) male self-pity is bad SMV boxoffice to be sure, but personal responsibility has fuck-all to do with women’s tingles. bender was chicknip because bender was a cocky sob with a tortured soul.]

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  25. on May 26, 2015 at 6:50 am Tarl

    Irish water protests? Are they mad because they’re finally being required to bathe?

    http://www.theonion.com/article/freshly-scented-soap-to-cleanse-irish-586

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    • on May 26, 2015 at 8:03 am Greg Eliot

      Droll.

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  26. on May 26, 2015 at 7:05 am Waffles

    ATTEMPTING TO MAKE GAME ILLEGAL

    http://www.philly.com/philly/living/20150526_Watch_out__lovers_who_lie__Sexual_assault_by_deception_could_become_a_criminal_offense.html

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    • on May 26, 2015 at 7:13 am PA

      Those developments are dangerous in principle but like with “affirmative consent,” enforcement breaks down when things boil down to he-said she-said.

      Aftet-Game doesn’t get much coverage in seduction literature but it becomes ever more important to make her think you left her better than you found her.

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      • on May 26, 2015 at 7:26 am PA

        (After-Game)

        …also, to avoid unstable women.

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    • on May 26, 2015 at 9:02 am Tarl

      Fat, older white housewife with kids hooks up with black stud, and she complains of deception? You were deceiving yourself, lady.

      I bet her online persona was a lot younger and thinner, but that ain’t “deception”, noooooo.

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      • on May 26, 2015 at 10:09 am Greg Eliot

        She and the kids are lucky he didn’t pull an OJ on her…

        … not that that wouldn’t have been just deserts, mind you.

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      • on May 26, 2015 at 10:09 am Greg Eliot

        Hell, desserts.

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    • on May 26, 2015 at 10:27 am Bobby Cuddlefuck aka The Hamster Whisperer

      I would fly to wherever this bill gets signed into law, fuck a bunch of chicks wearing make up, and sue them for deceiving me. Even in this bizarro legal age, I don’t see how this law could possibly pass constitutional muster.

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  27. on May 26, 2015 at 7:26 am Trimegistus

    The Irish protests don’t sound like the middle of society rising up. They sound like more of the same Free Shit Army that has taken over in the USA.

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  28. on May 26, 2015 at 7:33 am 88

    OT example of how bad it really is out there. this ain’t the onion fellas.

    “plus size babes” doncha know…

    http://www.buzzfeed.com/virgietovar/crop-tops-that-will-have-you-begging-for-more-b-1j4in?bffb&utm_term=4ldqpgp#.avWEDRqOP

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    • on May 26, 2015 at 8:01 am Greg Eliot

      More like begging for more bourbon… or more distance.

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      • on May 26, 2015 at 9:33 am Laguna Beach Fogey

        Yes, distance…as in a one-way ticket to Eastern Europe or South America.

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    • on May 26, 2015 at 8:12 am Sentient

      Barf…!!! Ladies if you must attention whore, please be kind enough to look the part…

      http://nb9.stumbleupon.netdna-cdn.com/eyLsiL8nybPzUiQZSAHvWQ

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    • on May 26, 2015 at 8:45 am mendozatorres

      Nothing worse than a delusional woman thinking she can pull off a look that’s so not her.

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    • on May 26, 2015 at 8:48 am irishsavant

      This is just another oblique crack at the traditional understanding of female beauty. White and slender. Same with the butt enhancement vogue. Subliminally induces us to mate with the groids.

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    • on May 26, 2015 at 9:31 am Laguna Beach Fogey

      Hey, didn’t you know that belly is trending?!

      Insensitive bastards.

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      • on May 26, 2015 at 9:39 am Greg Eliot

        Pork bellies, maybe… but that’s on the Chicago Farm Exchange.

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      • on May 26, 2015 at 9:56 am Col Nicholson

        Not pork bellies, “live hogs.”

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      • on May 26, 2015 at 10:16 am mendozatorres

        That stuff’s junk

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      • on May 26, 2015 at 9:24 pm Eliezer Ben Yehuda

        >> Pork bellies, maybe… but that’s on the Chicago Farm Exchange

        wrong exchange, and that contract was killed off several years ago when the volume-of-trades dropped lower than that of uranium futures.

        Pity the nation which depends upon WNs to keep its supermarkets stocked…..

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      • on May 27, 2015 at 8:23 am Greg Eliot

        Alas, yet another jest fallen flat!

        Truth be told, I didn’t even think there was such a thing as the Chicago Farm Exchange.

        Figgers, though, that you’d be up on the markets, Judah Ben-Gay.

        You fairy.

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    • on May 26, 2015 at 9:59 am Canadian Friend

      #7 has a pretty face but it is ruined by the 250 lbs of fat attached to it.

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    • on May 26, 2015 at 10:31 am Laguna Beach Fogey

      Lots of unrestrained gunt in that photo essay.

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    • on May 26, 2015 at 11:36 am Dr. Fill

      Thanks for the link.There is some real talk in the comments. Our healthcare is system is doomed.

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  29. on May 26, 2015 at 8:13 am everybodyhatesscott

    When I was younger, I used to hate that Bender got the girl. It pissed me off that the asshole got her. Now, I get pissed when some mewling beta dumps all his feelings and ends up with some hot chick. I was watching pitch perfect 2 (shut up) and some guy who tripped over himself every time he talked to the pretty girl won her affection. It was bullshit.

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    • on May 26, 2015 at 5:55 pm Anonymous

      People who propagate these “nice guy gets the girl” myths should be staked out for the buzzards, doused in BBQ sauce.

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  30. on May 26, 2015 at 8:47 am mendozatorres

    OT (and kinda about Ireland): Amsterdam’s looking for a few, hell, several good white children. Apparently they’re in short supply.

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    • on May 26, 2015 at 8:50 am irishsavant

      Is this about the Amsterdam school full of vibrants who are begging for White kids to come back?

      Oh, the irony…..

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      • on May 26, 2015 at 11:44 am mendozatorres

        That’s the one. I love reading the comments on those articles.

        “You can fool some people sometimes,
        But you can’t fool all the people all the time.”

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      • on May 26, 2015 at 11:52 am Greg Eliot

        Those classrooms must be the academic equivalent of a Dutch oven.

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  31. on May 26, 2015 at 9:31 am Insulent

    This is the first I’ve heard of Sigma or the lone wolf variety man, and it seems about time. I’ve never mixed well with peacocking alpha jock types or wilting betas. Have never had much trouble getting the girls.

    I was 13 in 85. Don’t remember when I saw TBC but do remember pulling for Bender as he was the character most like myself.

    How many lone wolf type guys do you suppose browse the manosphere/pua sites regularly but aren’t participants? Let’s hear something more about (and from) these men who even total Alphas gain inspiration from.

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    • on May 26, 2015 at 1:23 pm corvinus

      Upon learning Game, I seem to have developed into a sigma rather than a conventional alpha. Being part of a group of men, or a leader of men, has never appealed to me. In fact, I find it rather draining.

      I think Vox has said that sigmas also tend to have very high IQs or are exceptional in some manner. This in fact may explain their aloofness from groups; this exceptionalism would make it quite difficult for them to actually find a peer group of like-minded men.

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      • on May 26, 2015 at 2:16 pm Anonymous

        You replied to my comment below. I can relate to being a leader of men holding no appeal. Exceptionalism does lead to aloofness from groups. It also does wonders for overconfidence, resulting in further aloofness…

        Regarding your comment below (can’t reply to it), I’m not surprised to hear Sigmas and omegas have already been described as sociopaths, pulling hot ass being the line of differentiation. Hierarchy really does come down to the pussy. “One hole to rule them all…”

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  32. on May 26, 2015 at 9:37 am PA

    The professional hazard of writing about Sigmas is having a slew of commenters telling everybody that they are Sigmas too.

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    • on May 26, 2015 at 9:40 am Sentient

      This^^^

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      • on May 26, 2015 at 11:31 am Anonymous

        I wonder what the correlation between true Sigma lone wolf and full blown (heh) sociopathy is. I’ve read that most Sigmas are actually Omegas excusing their social retardation. I agree. However, the lone wolf does exist and the above comment is on to something about the majority of them lurking. It goes hand in hand with being the outsider. The lone wolf doesn’t care if he is part of the group because men and women worship him whether he puts in the effort to be part of their community or not.

        And… my ambition to join the discussion is already dwindling, as I’d rather go lift for my lunch and benefit myself than stay here and contribute to the community. That said, keep up the good work. We’re out here reading.

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      • on May 26, 2015 at 1:19 pm corvinus

        I wonder what the correlation between true Sigma lone wolf and full blown (heh) sociopathy is.

        Vox describes sigmas and omegas as sociopaths.

        I’ve read that most Sigmas are actually Omegas excusing their social retardation.

        If they pull hot girls, they actually are sigmas. Omegas aren’t able to do that.

        The lone wolf doesn’t care if he is part of the group because men and women worship him whether he puts in the effort to be part of their community or not.

        I’d say it’s more like the sigma doesn’t really get any enjoyment out of being part of a group, but does like being alone most of the time. Whether or not he’s liked simply doesn’t matter to him.

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    • on May 26, 2015 at 9:40 am Greg Eliot

      Touche’

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    • on May 26, 2015 at 9:40 am 88

      yeah, and people will also take this kind of behavior too literally and come off looking like fools. this is meant to be an example of the type of behavior to emulate not something to mimic exactly.

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      • on May 26, 2015 at 10:17 am mendozatorres

        +1

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    • on May 26, 2015 at 9:56 am Laguna Beach Fogey

      tru dat

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    • on May 26, 2015 at 10:55 am bear

      too many omegas fancy themselves sigmas

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    • on May 26, 2015 at 1:14 pm corvinus

      Yeah, I’m reluctant to call myself one even though I may actually be one now.

      But posters should realize that if they haven’t stolen the hearts of HB9s or dimes and gotten sexual with them, they’re not sigmas.

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  33. on May 26, 2015 at 9:38 am The Ginger Man

    …….When Ireland explodes it will take the rest of the world with it………

    Words to live by. The Irish spirit is the cradle of God.

    “Being Irish, he had an abiding sense of tragedy, which sustained him through temporary periods of joy.”
    – Yeats

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    • on May 26, 2015 at 9:41 am Greg Eliot

      I’ll never look at a McD’s Shamrock Shake the same way.

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    • on May 26, 2015 at 10:13 am Laguna Beach Fogey

      Great book, btw. A lot of those at the Chateau would enjoy it.

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  34. on May 26, 2015 at 9:47 am Moria

    OT
    How do you handle (or “tolerate”) high value girls antics? I see that zero-tolerance policy works well on 6s – they always come back broken. But 9s-10s, heavily pedestalized they are, also have low tolerance – what is the solution?

    Case report : Recently I shot for a solid 9. After 2 months dating, she flaked and acts out – so I told her *one* sentence – sth like “Its complicated” then bailed out. Next day – calls and fb msgs asking me to explain – me :radio silence. Then we met accidentally. I kept aloof (not bitter ! not nice), she was all of sudden nice and horny, the same girl I remeber from initial phase before antics. However, no apology – I kept emphasis on being steady and indifferent , but didnt chomp the bait.

    Beta gut instincts were tempting me, I resisted and stick to the script 100%
    I am positive I preserved the value, but still was expecting her to crawl back and go for bang.

    Now, CH ambassadors tell me – its 6 weeks no contact on both sides – what now? did I fck up somwhewre in the process? Thx for advice

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    • on May 26, 2015 at 9:59 am Captain Obvious

      Be happy that you are rid of her. Also, the fact that you are still pining for her indicates that SHE WON – because she’s riding some other c0ck now and she probably can’t even remember who you are. At the this point, the only way for you to win your tete-a-tete with her is to forget about her and to be thankful that you can forget about her.

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      • on May 26, 2015 at 10:00 am Captain Obvious

        1) Maintain Radio Silence. 2) Never talk about your feelings. 3) Never apologize.

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      • on May 26, 2015 at 10:20 am mendozatorres

        “Never get less than twelve hours sleep; never play cards with a guy who has the same first name as a city; and never get involved with a woman with a tattoo of a dagger on her body. Now you stick to that, and everything else is cream cheese.”

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    • on May 26, 2015 at 10:16 am Canadian Friend

      Two things

      – when you met accidentally and she was nice and horny, maybe you were too aloof/cold, maybe you should have given her a break ( I could be wrong, other guys here better at this game may disagree with me )

      – If you were able to get a 9, then you have what it takes ( be it good game, good looks whatever ), thus there will be other 9s.

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      • on May 26, 2015 at 10:35 am K

        “maybe you were too aloof/cold, maybe you should have given her a break”

        i agree with this to some extent. hear this kind of thing a lot on here. the girl shows interest after a break and all she gets is aloof indifference so she gives up and everyone wonders why.

        then you get advice to use more a-hole game, cut your losses, and move on. but take a minute and really pay attention to who is giving that advice. these are the guys who can’t manage to keep a girl around for more than a couple months at a time.

        sure, telling yourself there’s always another 9 coming down the pike is good for the ego but it’s not gonna help you avoid this kind of situation in the future.

        the reality is, there is no blanket answer to every situation. sometimes they need aloof indifference, sometimes they need comfort. sometimes dread, other times reward.

        and be real here, you don’t need to act like a schmuck as soon as a girl shows interest again but you gotta give a girl something or she’s gonna bail. sounds like that’s what happened here.

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    • on May 26, 2015 at 10:18 am Greg Eliot

      There are times when woman can’t tell one man from another…

      … and there’s always another swingin’ Richard comin’ down the pike.

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    • on May 26, 2015 at 2:17 pm Moria

      Thanks for input guys. Yall gave insightful advice.
      I thought it was time to reward good behavior …but sth in my guts was telling me, it wasnt authentic. Could feel the hamster lurking.

      “K” – thats great post hands down. I have omitted the non-physical comfort. But it was difficult – because tension was on from the first encounter. Now, its hard to go back to comfort, since it was almost non existent. Tough call for building LTR.

      Captain – Agree with all points. However, I think, radio silence is decent no-loose option and can build up dynamics – but build up – and then strike and reap the fruit, not leave in silence (which is exactly where I fckd up).

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    • on May 26, 2015 at 4:03 pm walawala

      @Moria You’re wayyyyy over-thinking this. Same thing happened to me. A 23 year old I was banging for 3 months suddenly flaked. Ignored me after a particularly close encounter a few days before.

      I shot her a text: “Say what you wanna say, ask what you wanna ask but don’t be a little baby bitch”.

      She replied…instantly that she felt we were getting too close.

      That was it. Radio silence…for 8 months so far. I see her all the time. She was giving me IOI’s, trying to engage me. Apart from some awkward “Oh…hi” on my part and walking on….I’ve successfully ignored her.

      Unless she actively engages me: texts, approaches…why would I engage? I’ve made that mistake with my crazy ex cutting her slack after months when she approached me. It only validates her bad behavior without holding her accountable in any way. Next this girl, stop obsessing over what SHE’s thinking.

      IF you feel you want to re-engage, do so but from what you’re writing, you’re way over-invested in the outcome so any interaction will be fraught with you giving off a needy vibe to her needy vibe for validation.

      If she wanted to re-engage, she would have by now. Girls are not subtle when they want something.

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  35. on May 26, 2015 at 9:51 am Anonymous Funk

    I’ve always thought the best scene is when (I think it’s after Bender has pulled the pin on the door, and it slams shut) Vernon comes storming in to demand answers, but the group bands together and defies him. The point being that, even thought they come from different places, and have almost nothing in common, and have just been insulting each other, they still band together against the authority figure. It’s really the key moment in the movie.

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  36. on May 26, 2015 at 10:09 am gunslingergregi

    i remember the kids in school making references to movies and tv and such copying it
    i didn’t have time to be watching movies all day to busy living my life the one i wanted to live

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    • on May 26, 2015 at 10:12 am Captain Obvious

      It’s amazing how much more free time you have when you walk away from television and the internet. CH is about all that I check anymore. Everything else is just propaganda designed to destroy us.

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  37. on May 26, 2015 at 10:29 am gunslingergregi

    maybe that is the problem you guys were worshipping people on tv who lets face it are all fags cause what straight man wants to be an actor instead of going out when young and learning to worship yourself as the man you wanted to be

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    • on May 26, 2015 at 10:59 am mendozatorres

      I know this to have been my problem. Too caught up in the specatorship of it all.

      Now I’m in the driver’s seat. (Now I gotta listen to that song!)

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  38. on May 26, 2015 at 10:46 am gunslingergregi

    Calgary Police stood by making sure the event ran smoothly.

    “We’re not going to arrest and charge children, that isn’t going to solve the problem,” said Cst. Rayne Boyko. She said police run a recreational program for kids called Power Play in some affordable housing communities, which they are looking to implement for the neighbourhood of Shaganappi Village.

    “Everybody has the same goal. Everybody wants to live here peacefully and for their children to be able to go out and have fun and play,” Boyko said. “The problem in a lot of communities is that if there isn’t organized recreation, they get into trouble. It’s like a schoolyard without supervision.”
    ”””””””””””’

    yea not gonna arrest em lol wtf
    dont be poor white it is a crime

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  39. on May 26, 2015 at 11:21 am ticticbooom

    There are two kinds of Irishmen who are capable of doing something about that gang of quislings that run the place:

    1: Those whose ancestors moved to a country where they had a chance of improving their lives.

    2: Ulstermen, both Catholic and Protestant. I heard England transplanted some rug butters there, and they started their usual thing; you know, abiding by the example of a 7th century bandit chieftan.

    Poor fools got off easy, by Belfast standards. All that happend was an angry mob kicking some doors and telling the occupants to go back to whatever shithole they came from. No one even got kneecapped.

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    • on May 26, 2015 at 11:35 am Greg Eliot

      Get those pikes upon yer shoulders at the rising of the moon.

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  40. on May 26, 2015 at 11:37 am TLM

    My wife’s Irish cousin came over here back in 2008. We showed him around and he was a nice enough guy, but I got a strange feeling that something was off with him. The next year he comes back with his ‘girlfriend’ to visit. They had been together for about 5 years and yet weren’t even engaged. They said their plans were to marry in another 5 years and then have kids. At that time they were both in their mid-30’s and I thinking these two micks were freaking delusional.

    But the strangest thing was, they brought their DVD collection of the latest Eurovision contest with them when they traveled over here and wouldn’t shut up about it. I had never heard of it prior to that, but it’s some faggy song contest between nations, very gay. It then hit me that this guy’s girlfriend was either a beard, or modern Irish guys are feminized sissy boys these days, but knowing him, I’m not surprised at all that Ireland is now the Fag Kingdom of Europe.

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  41. on May 26, 2015 at 2:08 pm Days of Broken Arrows

    This is hilarious, if true. From Wikipedia: “At one point, Hughes got angry at Nelson because he stayed in character by taunting Ringwald off-camera, and the other actors had to convince Hughes not to fire him.[5][6].”

    It’s apparently sourced from the NY Beta Times and Wall Street Journal, so it just might be true — haha.

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  42. on May 26, 2015 at 3:46 pm corvinus

    A man trolls his new wife with reverse Beta Male Takeaway Game:

    http://www.opposingviews.com/i/society/here-note-one-woman-got-her-new-husband-photo

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  43. on May 26, 2015 at 4:23 pm Anonymous

    “In hindsight our school was a deeply damaging environment of papist omega-dom”

    That’s pretty much what school is for: beating boys down into a life of chumphood. Look at what the basic rules are:

    1. Sit at a desk and don’t move for hours (makes perfect sense for kids with limitless energy right?)
    2. Shut the fuck up.
    3. Obey the authority figure, and maybe even aspire to be a little despot like him/her by being elected hall monitor.

    After 12+ years of this little wonder people are fucked up.

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  44. on May 26, 2015 at 5:51 pm Anonymous

    “most beta males will wind up with a girl in their lives. The problem is that it will rarely be their first choice. (Omega males are the men who can spend years tormented by their incel.)”

    I think of incel as more of a beta problem, because a beta will at least usually turn down offers from freaks and fuggos, yet might still think of himself as incel because he can’t get laid by normal human women. Omegas OTOH will fuck anything and that opens up your options somewhat.

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  45. on May 27, 2015 at 4:31 pm Atlanta Alpha

    I would like to recommend Nelson’s lesser-known earlier movie “Making the Grade” for lots of Alpha moments as well

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  46. on May 28, 2015 at 6:39 am Froblow

    Groundhog day would be excellent for this series. Lots of Jerkboy charisma stuff in the first half as well as some last minute resistance with the andie MacDowell character.

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