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The Throat Clearing Opener

May 27, 2015 by CH

Reader duderino stumbles upon an excellent jerkboy opener.

I was standing behind a hot girl at the grocery store a while back. She was fit and wore tight yoga pants. She was waffling over which sugar free energy drink to buy. I’d pulled an all nighter studying, and was beginning to feel sick. I unintentionally cleared my throat in a way that made it sound like I was telling her to gtfo of my way. She started apologizing and sheepishly grinned as I grabbed whatever had the most caffeine. I was barraged with questions about which drink was best and how she wanted something to give her energy without getting fat. Throat clearing must be an underrated opener.

I was too grumpy and caught off guard to follow through. I’ve been gaining muscle lately and aren’t used to cute girls opening me. Anyone with experience talking to girls at grocery stores?

A real man demands a woman’s attention. He doesn’t wait for her attention to fall in his lap. This reader accidentally learned the value of this truth, so next time he might try a deliberate throat clearing opener to startle and arouse a cute girl turned instantly submissive to the aural attack of his jerky, guttural impudence.

Coaxer of Shy Clits: [loudly clears throat] *hmmMMMmmm*

Little Red Clitoral Hood: Oh! I’m sorry. *sheepish grin* You looking for en energy drink? Which drink is best?

Coaxer of Shy Clits: Well, Red Bull gives you flings. I mean, wings.

Whatever you do after your throat clearing opener, don’t do beta. That means don’t give in to instinct and apologize for disturbing the girl’s tranquility.

More than a few readers have offered anecdotes in which they stoked a girl’s curiosity and feminine deference as a result of unintentionally mimicking alpha male jerkboy behavior in her company. This is interesting, because the results proceeding from accidental Game speak more forcefully to the efficacy of Game than do the results from deliberate application of Game.

When we set out on self-improvement, there is a natural human tendency to affirm the benefits of that which we have invested much effort to learn and apply. But those same benefits accrued by unintentional implementation of a behavioral change — that is, accrued without conscious apprehension of the behavioral process until after the fact, when a surprised appraisal is made — is a powerful clue that the change in behavior works as predicted.

The heart of the matter is quite disturbing to dewy-eyed and trembling-lipp’d romantic idealists when you really grasp its significance:

Maxim #65: The accidental alpha trumps the intentional beta.

The shiv withdraws, glistening with viscera.

PS There are illimitable ways to hit on girls standing in front of you at the supermarket checkout. One I’ve employed is making a comment about one of her odder choices of food items on the conveyor belt. Try to structure your comment so that it’s open-ended, leading her to invest a bit in the conversation, and possibly continuing it past the store doors. For example, “I guess I’m not the only one who eats durian fruit. What makes you think you can handle that bad boy?”

***

Amy delightfully recalls a man who plied her limbic labials with what I consider very tight grocery check-out game.

Once I was in line checking out at a grocery store and the guy behind me surveyed what I was buying (all leafy greens and fruits bc I was on a juice cleanse), and said, remind me not to come over to your place for dinner. I laughed and said it was for juicing. So then he looks at me and says with mock seriousness “you need meat.” Bold!

Indeed. Poon Commandment XIII: Err on the side of too much boldness, rather than too little.

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  1. on May 27, 2015 at 8:27 am Captain Obvious

    > “I was too grumpy” As we were saying on another recent thread, there is nothing quite like Hangover Game. When you’ve got a hangover, there’s no fear, no trembling, no sweaty palms, no anxiety, only you yourself at your Dark Triad couldn’t-give-a-d@mn apogee. “Just-Pulled-an-All-Nighter” Game is essentially the same thing, and can work wonders for Cubicle Monkey Wage Slaves [working like the slaves that they are, in order to meet their owners’ deadlines], who would otherwise be too terrified from approach anxiety.

    > “too… caught off guard to follow through” Now there’s the key – if you can’t think with a Hangover, or after an All-Nighter, then stockpile a few memorized lines to get the conversation going. And, as Heartiste indicated, via the word “flings”, try to sexualize things within the first sentence or two. Don’t be a Beta and wait six months to get up the courage to go sexual – after six months, you’ll be an orbiter and your desire to sexualize will come across to her as “creepy”. SEXUALIZE IMMEDIATELY. Tastefully, but immediately. A Playah sexualizes the first sentence as easily as a Beta says, “Uhh, Hello… I guess… Or not… Ahh, whatever… Sorry to disturb you… Bye.”

    [CH: related:

    https://heartiste.wordpress.com/2009/05/11/hangover-game/

    ]

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  2. on May 27, 2015 at 8:30 am The Throat Clearing Opener | Neoreactive

    […] By CH […]

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    • on May 27, 2015 at 3:47 pm Experienced Father

      CH,

      Another astute observation of human nature.

      >applause<

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  3. on May 27, 2015 at 8:40 am Amy

    Once I was in line checking out at a grocery store and the guy behind me surveyed what I was buying (all leafy greens and fruits bc I was on a juice cleanse), and said, remind me not to come over to your place for dinner. I laughed and said it was for juicing. So then he looks at me and says with mock seriousness “you need meat.” Bold!

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    • on May 27, 2015 at 10:41 am Anonymous

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  4. on May 27, 2015 at 8:47 am Maine Dad

    I always wear headphones to grocery shop. Usually something like Black Label Society sets the proper tone to navigate the shuffling diabetics around me. I was pleasantly surprised once to round the corner to see heels, a skirt, slender frame and long flowing blonde hair pulling skim milk from the case. Waiting til she turned to be sure she didn’t have a mustache or crows feet I sized up her groceries in the cart. Special K, berries, cottage cheese, and milk. So I said over my music, IS THAT YOUR DINNER? A sheepish glance up at me & back at her cart, “yes”. DO YOU ALWAYS EAT LIKE THAT? She nodded. DONT YOU COOK? Shaking her head & laughing she said no. EVER?! She pouted & looked up at me saying, “No. Isn’t that terrible?” And then laughed. I just stared at her and said YOU JUST BLEW IT. And I turned my cart 180 degrees walking away. Then I stopped, looked back & put my thumb close to my index finger AND YOU WERE THIIIIIS CLOSE. 5 minutes later she was directly behind me at the checkout. I barely acknowledged her except to tell her I was disappointed & that grilling a man a steak was pretty easy to learn. Outside I sat in my Jeep and watched her leave the store & head for a high end car. Wondering if she was a kept woman I drove up, dropped the passenger window & called her over. Now without my headphones, I asked her name to which she gave her full name, where she worked & where she lived. I said, “you better give me your # just in case”. I sealed that in less than a week.

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    • on May 27, 2015 at 9:38 am sum yung guy

      “Special K, berries, cottage cheese, and milk.”

      the diet of a lazy teen.

      “grilling a man a steak was pretty easy to learn.”

      that’s not cooking. no one is impressed by searing meat. and the grill is the man’s domain anyway.

      a good part of a woman’s social capital is derived from her skills in the kitchen (cooking and baking). not only have the young women of today lost all of that capital, they have also retreated to social media instead of real interaction costing them even more.

      these women have nothing to offer but their bodies and should be used and discarded until such time that they rediscover the true sources of their value in society.

      cooking means: homegrown sprouts, homegrown herbs, homegrown greens, homegrown produce according to season, homemade sauces, homemade dressings, homemade fermented foods (pickles, kraut, kimchi, beer), prepping and cooking from scratch, artful presentation and of course plentiful leftovers for her man to eat at his leisure. She should also preserve foods, make jams and jellies and make her own stock.

      this was just a part of a woman’s day that also included raising the children to be strong and decent human beings, keeping social ties strong, planning events and parties, taking care of herself, taking care of the home and taking care of her man.

      the reason all of these women are so miserable is because they have too much time on their hands to “think”.

      when a girl is busy doing the things that make her a girl all her psychological “problems” disappear.

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      • on May 27, 2015 at 10:57 am The Spirit Within

        Modern supermarkets have made home fermentation and home canning unnecessary. A woman who shops for fresh food and knows how to cook it has passed the bar.

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      • on May 27, 2015 at 11:09 am Marissa

        Modern supermarkets do not have appropriately fermented or canned foods. In fact, most fermented foods at the grocery store are not raw and thus not as nutritious. Likewise, some issues with canned foods at the store include the feminizing chemical BPA. Never mind the extra ingredients in both that counteract properly feeding and nurturing the body.

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      • on May 27, 2015 at 12:08 pm Lucky Strike

        “when a girl is busy doing the things that make her a girl all her psychological “problems” disappear.”

        But, but, but…THAT’S MISOGYNIST.

        I was told the right thing to do is set her up with an expensive psychiatrist, pump her full of SSRI’s and antipsychotics (Abilify) so she can cope, and subsequently keep her on that regimen for the rest of her life, adding prescriptions as needed to manage the side effects.
        http://www.peoplespharmacy.com/2013/07/29/abilify-side-effects-can-be-scary/

        If they develop advanced diabetes, tardive dyskinesia, or atherosclerosis, the solution is to give them even more “healthcare”.
        Besides, these are all small prices to pay to end the scourge of patriarchy, right?

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  5. on May 27, 2015 at 9:00 am KermitTheeFrog777

    Heartiste yet again eerliy serving up just what I needed for the day. Discovered this same phenomenon accidentally just yesterday, but at work. Had to apologize as the recipient was much more senior than me and I didn’t want him to think I was deliberately trying to horn in on his hallway convo.

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  6. on May 27, 2015 at 9:49 am prevailtolegend

    Does anyone else notice their game noticably improve when they are dehydrated or sleep deprived? It’s almost as if there is an intensity or drive to stay focused until you find something that saves your life, be it food, shelter, water, and in these times your mind has an edge in the interpersonal skills it used to take to procure these resources from others. When I am dehydrated and running game I have a very natural ‘demanding’ and don’t take no for an answer demeanor about me but it never feels forced, just coming straight from my instincts. This yields great results.

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    • on May 27, 2015 at 10:09 am heavypendulum

      sleep deprived yes. i think its just cuz i dont think and say whatevers on my delirious mind.

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    • on May 27, 2015 at 10:10 am JohnDSee

      I agree with parts of that, though I haven’t tried faking it. It’s the exhausted one that works for me, and when I’m really exhausted it’s rare there’s a chic nearby to fall to my charms.

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  7. on May 27, 2015 at 10:08 am Isthatso

    I dont like cold approach settings where a silent third party is listening to me (cashier for instance), probably due to my inexperience and not wanting to instill my awkwardness on more people than is necessary.

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    • on May 27, 2015 at 11:31 am duderino

      I had a similar instinct, but the tension was what made it work. Something about feeling judged makes girls more open for business.

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    • on May 27, 2015 at 11:45 am Sentient

      Contrast is alpha – any approach in this kind of atmosphere raises your value in a girl’s eyes.

      Just imagine yourself as the star of your own reality show… and go with it.

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    • on May 27, 2015 at 1:39 pm uh

      lol. ENLIST THE CASHIER, who’s usually another female and bored out of her skull. they love it!

      ps – stop even thinking shit like “instill my awkwardness”.

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    • on May 27, 2015 at 4:49 pm no

      I’m like that sometimes but my urges usually overrule those thoughts.

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  8. on May 27, 2015 at 10:11 am The Spirit Within

    What you do is neg the stuff in her cart, tell her that you want to show her how she *should* eat, and drag her cart back into the store and fill it with different ingredients. If she’s compliant she’ll follow. You should be totally dominant and narrating all the way, don’t allow awkward silence. Then you hand her your phone and say put your number here if you need me to show you how to prepare it.

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    • on May 27, 2015 at 2:46 pm ragingindependent

      Good luck with that. Again where people take the Alpha lesson of the day and go way too far with it. When you do this, please slap on a go-pro so we can watch it for shits and giggles.

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      • on May 27, 2015 at 7:20 pm The Spirit Within

        Yeah, I know — you’d have to see huge IOI and calibrate like a motherhumper to decide how far to push it.

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  9. on May 27, 2015 at 10:24 am Kent

    I can affirm the role that accidental alpha game can play on women.

    I was at a conference once (the subject was essentially anti political correctness and a personal favorite, so I had high energy) and joined on a group of men and women with the line “I’m gonna talk to you guys now” after slipping out of another group.

    One woman had instant interest in me, even though she had a boyfriend, and we hooked up later that night. When I hung out with her again later on, she mentioned it was my attitude when I approached the group that her hooked. Haha

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  10. on May 27, 2015 at 10:36 am Therajraj

    In general guys seem to over apologize. In my office I hear guys utter the word “sorry” about half a dozen times a day

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    • on May 27, 2015 at 10:52 am mendozatorres

      I’ve noticed this trend as well.

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    • on May 27, 2015 at 12:08 pm Sentient

      In London it’s 3 dozen times a day.

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  11. on May 27, 2015 at 11:30 am Anonymous

    anyone have any general tips in gaming 18 year olds online (tinder, okcupid)

    where my normal game works with girls 22+, girls younger than this just give annoying one word replys to all my messages. is more negging he answer?

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    • on May 27, 2015 at 11:57 am Golden Spinning Wheel

      If you can’t cut it in the real world, get another hobby. You’re just embarrassing yourself and your ancestry. These are the only people you’re ‘negging,’ big guy.

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      • on May 27, 2015 at 12:34 pm Anonymous

        thank you, cliched dissenting tradcon

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      • on May 27, 2015 at 2:30 pm Golden Spinning Wheel

        “Tradcon”? Rock that sheeps’ language and gimp lamb’s lifestyle all across the software pastures, playboiii. Stay up.

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    • on May 27, 2015 at 5:02 pm Culum Struan

      @Anon – Blackdragon has some stuff about younger girls. Look it up. Generally flakier. They text lots but not necessarily long texts. As long as you are getting compliance (they give you the number, they meet up with you etc), I wouldn’t worry.

      Your age is also relevant but you’re getting messages/matches online it is probably not an issue with you.

      Signed,

      Banged a 20 year old yesterday (I’m 35)

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    • on May 27, 2015 at 5:11 pm no

      On tinder anything about cats

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    • on May 27, 2015 at 5:13 pm no

      Its a bitch if you dont have good pics up though.

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  12. on May 27, 2015 at 11:52 am SuperFucker!

    one of my stock supermarket openers is when you the girl in front of you is buying a pre-made meal, like a trader Joe’s frozen entre:

    “nothin like a home-cooked meal”, delivered with a sly grin

    it hits all the right buttons.

    you’re welcome.

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  13. on May 27, 2015 at 12:02 pm Lara

    I think a food store is a great place to meet women. Commenting on what is in her cart is probably going to give you the most opportunities for openers. You could also ask her a cooking question. Get behind her in line, with one item, and tell her she should let you go in front of her. You’ll need to be really confident to pull that off.

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    • on May 27, 2015 at 3:55 pm Anonymous

      My one item is a toothbrush. “Getting over a bad break-up.”
      Once I’ve paid – I say “All better!”

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  14. on May 27, 2015 at 12:27 pm gunslingergregi

    finally met a real lesbian told this chick to bring over her girlfriend
    it was vomit inducing dont try this at home

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    • on May 27, 2015 at 12:40 pm mendozatorres

      Damn man, you’re killing it lately. This is some good shit right here!

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  15. on May 27, 2015 at 12:42 pm Arbiter

    Picking up in a grocery store is hard, since everything you say will sound contrived. “Soo, carrots, eh?” And she will have to move on to pick up more groceries, and you can’t follow her around. When you’re standing in line, that’s better – I talked to a girl once when the lines were unusually long in a store, and I made sure to stand in line just before her, no easy feat. Didn’t lead to anything that time, but then I met her again the next week. You never know.

    Better than picking up inside the store is to do it outside the store, though. If it is a store you walk from, instead of going by car. In the past I had great luck with a store close to the dorms at our university. I would leave at the same time as a girl, and on our way toward the dorm neighborhood I would comment on the glorious spring weather or something. I once slept with a girl three hours after meeting her, after talking to her outside the store like that. We dated for a while. When you do cold opens you never know – but it takes a lot of time, and most of the time it won’t lead to anything.

    Key here is to not sound like you are coming on to her, and instead sound like you are just a very easy-going guy who felt like saying what was on your mind right then. Hot women have guys coming on to them often, and it is tiresome to turn them down. Give her a more relaxed situation instead, then she will be more likely to talk to you.

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    • on May 27, 2015 at 12:52 pm Lara

      I agree. Talk to her in the store, then wait outside to get her number. It seems more natural, as if you had to think about it.

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    • on May 27, 2015 at 1:49 pm uh

      exactly this.

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    • on May 27, 2015 at 2:48 pm ragingindependent

      Agreed. I put the grocery store pick up along with the bridesmaid hookup as more fantasy concept than real life. Not to say it isn’t a good plan, but lets not pretend it’s ideal.

      First imma talk about her cart then I’ll escalate kino over by the apples…

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    • on May 27, 2015 at 3:32 pm duderino

      Upon reflection, the logistics of a grocery market pull ought to be like day game. I guess I just felt like hitting girls up at the grocery feels like its “against the rules” for some reason.

      You make a cold read ( you don’t cook much do you? Your boyfriend is going to divorce you)

      You joke (You’re Kaitlin? Uggh. That was my kindergarten girlfriend’s name. And she could NOT color between the lines! 😦 Good thing I’ve moved on to first graders now. )

      And then, “Hey, I’d like to continue this conversation, but I’m about to check out. . Jot down my number. Text me the last emoji you used so I can judge you. You can tell a lot about a person by the emojis they use.

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    • on May 27, 2015 at 10:08 pm Knowbody

      long lines are great for easy openers..the eye roll and small chit chat, go from there. they love to kill time. easy dhv here too, maintain a “I got places to be, can this line be any slower” look

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  16. on May 27, 2015 at 1:45 pm uh

    i’ve used the following half a dozen times leading to close twice:

    girl in front or behind, usually saturday or sunday morning, with yogurt, green drinks, blueberries, etc. this is their hangover “cure”. so i would look down amusedly, then lift head up and say just that: hungover? take it from there.

    another former pastime was to get half-drunk somewhere nearby, then go to whole foods and hit on everything in the store, including cashiers and management. one time before i did this i had found an IDF t-shirt at a thrift store, and with my head already shaved and my italian nose, looked pretty much like an israeli badass. so i go into a trader joe’s, i think, put on a stupid accent and get the cashier bitch’s number without even trying. i fucked that one by candlelight in the shed behind her mother’s house, and with glee drew her attention to the swastika tattoo afterward.

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  17. on May 27, 2015 at 1:47 pm uh

    oh btw, i started doing grocery store approaches because of an old chateau post about random daygame. if you’re in high spirits, it’s much better than dealing with the perfumed rabble at bars/clubs. men with wit just do not hit on them during the day enough for it to be anything but enjoyable novelty.

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    • on May 27, 2015 at 5:01 pm no

      Grocery stores are one of the easiest places to pickup. Only thing is if any pretty women are in there at the time which most of the time there is at least one.

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  18. on May 27, 2015 at 2:09 pm Sentient

    Timing is important and the kind of store. Go right after work – 5PM to 6PM is prime time on the weekdays in my city, and Saturday late morning. During the day it’s old people and frumpy wives.

    And the store is important – Whole Foods hands down hottest girls, then Fresh Market and the small health food groceries.

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    • on May 27, 2015 at 3:13 pm uh

      i’d never approach in fresh market. my theory, worked out as i was there looking for prey, is that the bougie markups on the commodities rubs off on the female customers. buy snooty, act snooty.

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  19. on May 27, 2015 at 4:56 pm no

    If he couldn’t think of anything to say then he could have said “Give me your number and I will tell you.” Seriously just go for the number every time and you will never forget to.

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    • on May 27, 2015 at 8:19 pm James blonde

      “Do you work here?”

      followed by

      “Whatcountry youfrom?”

      before she can answer.

      after that you gotta ROCK & ROLL…

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  20. on May 27, 2015 at 7:43 pm dave

    I liked the “you need meat line” I remember getting ready to take a Chem 2 final. We were all outside the classroom shooting the bull before the big test. A cute girl and I were talking about diet and a few classmates were listening. She (like ALL vegetarians) was bragging about how she doesn’t eat meat anymore. Without hesitating I said, “Well you’re obviously a communist” STUNNED silence! Her jaw fell open trying to think of a comeback. A few guys chuckled a little at my bold assertion. I might have asked her phone number, but another classmate was friends with my wife.

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  21. on May 27, 2015 at 8:51 pm Bray

    Once in the supermarket with my best mate just grabbing some food for tea, he went through the line and I went to pay, beautiful girl standing there, I looked at her name badge and it was an Egyptian name of which I so happened to know the meaning of so I said the translation, looked her in the eyes and watched her whole face light up. Gamed her the whole 2min I was there and then left without even telling her to give me the number.

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    • on May 28, 2015 at 8:13 am no

      On point. Taking the opportunities that present themselves, but indeed taking them. Something I also like to do. Cashing in the chips , so to speak.

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  22. on May 27, 2015 at 10:01 pm Knowbody

    could be more to this..my girl in the last few weeks has been making comments about the sounds I make..I had to ask what she meant since I never realized it really but she told me about all the sighs and groans and whatever noises we men make when stretching, gettin outta bed n shit, etc.,a good hearty throat clearing is a subtle announcement of your male presence I imagine. my girl told me she’s crazy abt these “manly sounds” as she called it. chicks like weird shit like that and notice the small things we don’t think twice about

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  23. on May 28, 2015 at 7:54 am henry himbeere

    why can’t alpha be a byproduct of good living, testosterone? For example this guy spent all night studying, and it just came out that way. That one cylynder of his life was firing. Success in academics on an accounting program and 4.0’s also give me confidence and such, and the concrete construction as well. Work makes you free school of thought, I buy into. Why fake it when you can be making it? And I like your thoughts about disturbing a woman’s tranquility. I guess we can demand attention, but we have to have a reason. We can’t just pester. If we call for it, have a reason that she can respect. Not just for giggles. That’s girly. Not just for validation of alpha status. That is a key point. When we see ourselves as kings and carry ourselves as the same, then we are entitled to demand attention, but a king doesn’t need validation. There is a reason behind what he does. And not machiavellian, but out in the open. He doesn’t need to creep or scheme. Not the best of them.

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    • on May 28, 2015 at 8:07 am no

      Yes. This is part of what I call naturalized game. Not to be confused with being a natural.

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    • on May 28, 2015 at 8:09 am no

      Or in other words, why reverse engineer something that is meant to be created in the first place.

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  24. on May 30, 2015 at 5:39 am Frank Lee

    Does anyone else notice their game noticably improve when they are dehydrated or sleep deprived?
    =========
    True, when you’re standing on a base of youth. Over 50, not so much.

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