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How To Spot A Psychopath

June 3, 2015 by CH

If the data and personal observation are accurate and America is filling up with sociopaths and psychopaths, then the best advice a person could get is how to spot psychopaths and either avoid them or defend oneself against their charming predations.

As a recipient of the wicked love of one or two suprasexy sociopath chicks, I can tell you that unless your state control is rock-ribbed and your sexual market options plentiful, you’ll get shredded to ribbons under the stiletto shiv of a femme fatale.

And having had the distinct displeasure to work and socialize alongside one or two male psychopaths, the danger to your well-being is a hundredfold worse.

You could say, “It takes one to know one, right CH?” Eh, maybe. Or maybe my keenness is a gift from the forces of Light, and the wisdom gathered from my experiences meant for bestowal upon the benighted as part of a pay it forward karmic redemption. Yeah, I’ll go with that.

Good news for people with functioning empathy centers of the brain: Psychopaths (and their lesser cousins, sociopaths) have tells, just like sluts have tells. If spaths (socio- + psychopath) unintentionally announce their evil disorder before they get their hooks in you, avoidance is possible.

Here’s a “psychopathy checklist” of twenty traits that are common in psychopaths. The biggest spath tells are lying, charm, and self-entitlement.

In essence, psychopathic predators can come across as socially adept, likable – at least at first – and the life of the party. Even after getting to know them, normal people often have the sense that something is wrong, but they don’t know what, because they aren’t use to thinking in terms of predatory behavior that will never change. Psychopaths, 99% of the time, are not reformable, and normal people who get in their way often spend considerable effort and energy into reforming them, which makes the normal person all the more vulnerable. […]

Glibly charming people who lie pathologically or who have been caught stealing should be like a flashing red warning light.

Perusing that psychopath trait list, I can’t help but notice at least a few of those traits are distinctive of successful, and psychologically healthy, womanizers who simply love the romantic company of (a variety) women. There’s a fair amount of overlap between psychopathy and tight Game. For instance:

glib and superficial charm
grandiose (exaggeratedly high) estimation of self
need for stimulation

As any good player knows, chicks dig overconfident, charming men with exciting lives.

cunning and manipulativeness

Players can be manipulative, but so can women in their own ways. It’s fair to say a little bit of manipulation is normal and healthy in seduction. Legit psychopaths take that talent for manipulation to levels that would dismay even lifelong womanizers.

A spath red flag I’ve encountered is when a person (usually a man) puts his hand on your shoulder anytime he punctuates a joke he told or an opinion he delivered unsolicited. This is a domination move that forces a fast-tracked intimacy, a classic psycho charm+power offensive. If anyone pulls this on you, physically remove their hand while keeping eye contact. They won’t do it again.

Another red flag that will help you distinguish spaths from regular guy charmers: A charming, normal man will piecemeal his charm during a conversation, delivering doses of his charisma at opportune moments. A spath will come right at you with both charm guns a-blazing, even before he’s shaken your hand and gotten to know your name. The quick draw spath is employing one of his domination moves, attempting to lead and monopolize the sympathies of the social group. If you suspect you’ve got one of these psychos in your mixed company, (and you recognize the threat that he’ll captivate the women in your group), the best defense is a good offense. Treat the spath like an AMOG and tease him for his try-hard efforts to win everyone over.

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  1. on June 3, 2015 at 12:57 pm no

    So a spath gives you a charm overload

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    • on June 3, 2015 at 2:25 pm johncorvus

      One spath I knew in college in my pre-red-pill-days used this tactic. We started playing in a band together and of course that’s when I started to realize this dude was nuts and kinda evil. Ultimately he wasn’t intelligent or self aware enough to be too successful. He’s bounced around many jobs and doesn’t seem too happy with where he’s at in life now, but along with charm overloads, he also would always try to bestow upon you some super hippy-dippy quasi-deep philosophy on how everything works, similar to The Secret and all that, just sort of hype you up on magical hopey-dope. And it worked a lot, he pulled really hot chicks often.

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      • on June 3, 2015 at 6:42 pm no

        Yeah I know a guy like that except he always gets people to bendover assbackwards to help him out of jams. They guy’s life is hilarious in a bad way

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      • on June 4, 2015 at 11:38 am Captain Obvious

        “no”, you have GOT to read Cleckley: http://www.cassiopaea.com/cassiopaea/cleckley.pdf

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    • on June 4, 2015 at 11:30 am Captain Obvious

      Technically speaking, “Psychopathy” is not part of the greater “Cluster B” assault which Evil Psychiatry Inc has unleashed upon the female mind; it falls into the “Not Specified” category [even though Psychopathy shares many traits with e.g. Cluster B’s Narcissism]: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Personality_disorder_not_otherwise_specified

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      • on June 4, 2015 at 11:34 am Captain Obvious

        The other fascinating thing about Psychopathy is that the Eskimos had essentially a monopoly on the practice of Psychiatry for about 50 years [during the first half of the 20th Century], but [to the best of my knowledge] none of the Eskimos ever bothered to write about Psychopathy. Instead, it was up to a Goyische Kopf Shegetz to identify the phenomenon: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hervey_M._Cleckley

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      • on June 4, 2015 at 11:35 am Captain Obvious

        We’ll leave it as a class discussion project as to why the Eskimos would so doggedly refuse to discuss the phenomenon…

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    • on June 4, 2015 at 3:03 pm Experienced Father

      CH,

      The somewhat related problem of depressed single mother creating mentally ill children —

      Researcher Dr Susan Pawlby, of the Institute of Psychiatry at King’s College London, said: ‘Interestingly, we did not find that exposure to mothers’ depression in the post-natal period contributes to offspring depression.

      ‘This suggests that depression in pregnancy represents a unique setting for the transmission of risk to the next generation.’

      http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-3111069/Could-depression-start-WOMB-Children-mothers-suffering-mental-illness-pregnancy-three-times-likely-develop-condition.html

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  2. on June 3, 2015 at 1:03 pm no

    Not sure if this is psychopath behavior, but I have noticed those who start arguments with no logical reason behind them just to have and win the argument even when it gets them nothing.

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    • on June 3, 2015 at 1:08 pm mendozatorres

      “Wise men speak because they have something to say;
      Fools because they have to say something.”

      -Plato

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    • on June 3, 2015 at 1:26 pm corvinus

      I understand that’s gamma male behavior, but I’m not sure it’s necessarily psychopathic.

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      • on June 3, 2015 at 10:19 pm Ripp

        Agree. Said something similar but mod ate it…

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  3. on June 3, 2015 at 1:10 pm How To Spot A Psychopath | Neoreactive

    […] How To Spot A Psychopath […]

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  4. on June 3, 2015 at 1:18 pm Experienced Father

    The key term of art for a psychopath is “No boundaries.”

    They don’t have any.

    They can never have any…save those you force upon them.

    And for psychopath’s with no impulse control, _FORCE_ must be physical.

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    • on June 3, 2015 at 4:45 pm James Blonde

      Punch them in the neck; from then on they will consider “boundaries’ whenever they move their head.

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    • on June 3, 2015 at 8:31 pm The Other Anonymous

      You’re underestimating the psychos manipulative abilities.

      Things I’ve noted:
      They’ve ‘no boundaries’ – but they’re always citing the rules.
      They’ve no empathy – but they’re always tugging at your emotions.
      They’ve no remorse – but they’re alway trying to make you feel sorry.
      They’re impulsive – but they’re always watching you for patterns.

      Femme fatales especially enjoy using reverse psychology to peel apart confident, self assured men. They’ll ride them like boo-hags until they’re an exhausted mess – then they’re done with them.

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      • on June 4, 2015 at 8:23 am Sentient

        This here ^^^^!

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      • on June 5, 2015 at 9:06 am Captain Obvious

        You guys realize that you are describing the careers of Bill and Hillary Clinton to a “T”, right? Barry Soebarkah Dunham slightly less so – Barry isn’t nearly as intelligent, and doesn’t have anywhere close to the all-consuming drive which Bill & Hillary possess.

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  5. on June 3, 2015 at 1:19 pm Anonymous

    “I have noticed those who start arguments with no logical reason behind them just to have and win the argument even when it gets them nothing”.

    ^^ Those people are more likely to be neurotypicals. For their own personal reasons, they’re overcompensating for weaknesses in real life, by becoming keyboard warriors online. They get a short lived ego boost, before returning to reality. They may win an argument, but it does nothing to beneft their lives. .

    A psychopath won’t bother with anything that isn’t benefiting them directly. They don’t care about the ethics of an argument. Winning for the sake of “principle” or “making a point” is of zero interest, because they care nothing for the external world.

    There is one question only: “what’s in it for me?”

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    • on June 3, 2015 at 1:42 pm Sean Fielding

      There’s a whole race with this aspect of psychopathy. Individual spaths ask ‘what’s in it for me?’ A whole tribe asks ‘is it good for the Jews?’

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      • on June 3, 2015 at 1:52 pm The Spirit Within

        What’s it like being a caricature of yourself?

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      • on June 3, 2015 at 4:23 pm Sean Fielding

        Roman Polanski:

        http://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/2009/10/macdonald-polanski/

        Morris Dees:

        http://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/2009/12/kevin-macdonald-morris-dees-%e2%80%94-allegations-of-sociopathy/

        The Tribe as a whole:

        http://age-of-treason.com/2015/06/02/solipsism-and-narcissism/

        http://age-of-treason.com/2015/02/17/gaslighting/

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      • on June 4, 2015 at 1:19 pm Greg Eliot

        What’s it like being a caricature of yourself?

        No worries, Sean…

        StraponWithin asks this of all of us RealTalkers from thread to thread…

        … and then has the gall to run down the shticks of others that are actually funny.

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      • on June 5, 2015 at 9:12 am Captain Obvious

        Sean Fielding, that’s EXACTLY my point way up above here – starting around the time that Freud emerged, circa 1895-99, the Eskimos had more than four decades to expose the existence of Psychopathy, yet it wasn’t until Cleckley authored “The Mask of Sanity”, in 1941, that anyone really started talking about the phenomenon. And, as you so bluntly point out, there’s a very obvious reason why the Eskimos would not want to be exposing the existence of Psychopathy.

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    • on June 3, 2015 at 6:01 pm Tilikum

      This seems pretty accurate to me.

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    • on June 3, 2015 at 6:43 pm no

      Sounds accurate. You want to feel sorry for them yet want to punch them at the same time.

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    • on June 3, 2015 at 10:22 pm Ripp

      “For their own personal reasons, they’re overcompensating for weaknesses in real life, by becoming keyboard warriors online.”

      Commenter matt king great example.

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      • on June 4, 2015 at 1:16 pm Greg Eliot

        I always find it ironic that those who accuse others of being keyboard warrirors always do it from the safety of their keyboards.

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      • on June 4, 2015 at 1:20 pm The Spirit Within

        You have any better ideas, Smegma?

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      • on June 4, 2015 at 1:31 pm Greg Eliot

        Yeah… stripes for the backs of fools, Strapon.

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      • on June 4, 2015 at 8:07 pm Ripp

        Greg Eddiot, the hom0 erotic Internet love affair you have with matt Queen B is already well known.

        Now don’t saturate your diapers but quietly wheel yourselves down the hall together after snack time.

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  6. on June 3, 2015 at 1:21 pm Mr Bigglesworth

    ^^ Mr Bigglesworth (I forgot to add my name so it says Anonymous).

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  7. on June 3, 2015 at 1:30 pm meistergedanken

    “A spath red flag I’ve encountered is when a person (usually a man) puts his hand on your shoulder anytime he punctuates a joke he told or an opinion he delivered unsolicited. This is a domination move that forces a fast-tracked intimacy”

    Isn’t this another form of kino? (a useful tool being misused, then?)

    This would weird me out, as I am a steadfast guardian of my personal space. Last year a coworker (chinese – an ethnicity not noted for respecting such boundaries) unexpectedly patted me on the shoulder and I instinctively felt like either jumping through the ceiling or clocking him in the face.

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    • on June 4, 2015 at 1:01 am duderino

      I worked with a guy like that. He’d tell a joke, grab your shoulder while laughing, and loudly say “isn’t that right, [your name]? He’s an idiot in his forties and women still love him. They talk shit about him, but they love him. I found out much later that he’d had assault with a deadly weapon charges dropped because the victim died before court. He won’t say what happened. The moral of the story is that if a guy is constantly pushing your personal boundaries, he probably doesn’t respect legal or moral boundaries. I had run ins with him later where he’d milk my personal life for work place drama. (I was fucking a coworker)

      So also never trust a man who enjoys drama as much as women do.

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    • on June 4, 2015 at 12:24 pm uh

      A little high in Neuroticism, I’d guess. Used to be that way.

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  8. on June 3, 2015 at 1:34 pm meistergedanken

    An interesting aspect of sociopaths is that they always seem to have a great capacity for lying. I don’t know precisely why that is, but not knowing when they are spouting falsehoods is one of the most dangerous things about them (aside from the trademark lack of empathy, of course).

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    • on June 3, 2015 at 6:02 pm Tilikum

      What is truth except the ability to project it and make you believe it?

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      • on June 3, 2015 at 6:46 pm no

        That begs the question: what is the best way to lie?

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      • on June 3, 2015 at 9:15 pm James blonde

        tell people something they want to believe like;

        ” thats one small step for man, one giant leap for mankind”

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      • on June 4, 2015 at 10:57 am Randy the Random

        That and, you know, the laws of the universe.

        Or do your shits sometimes plop onto the ceiling because gravity had an off day?

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  9. on June 3, 2015 at 2:08 pm Donohoe

    More people are learning how to be psychopathic as well though. By far the best traits for surviving in today’s world.

    The problems they run into is when the charm appears faked or incongruent, due to repeated lines/behaviours

    The psychopath’s charm works most efficiently one time only – one night only lol

    #teambateman

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    • on June 4, 2015 at 2:39 am PWN

      Individualism and psychopathy are the ways to go in a diverse, atomized society with no clear future goals that are of importance.

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  10. on June 3, 2015 at 2:11 pm Ohiomega

    Better sperg than spath I say.

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    • on June 3, 2015 at 8:11 pm johncorvus

      Nah

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  11. on June 3, 2015 at 2:20 pm Mr Bigglesworth

    ^^ The Russians have a saying: “With lies you can go forwards, but you can never go back”.

    A psychopath exhausts the energy and resources of each victim, before moving on to the next. I have an aunt and a cousin who are both sociopaths (I believe it’s strongly genetic and a physical, neurological disorder, like autism). I’ve watched them move from one poor chump to the next, each time eventually getting figured out and rejected, and without remorse, moving on to someone else. It’s icy cold and almost impressive in a really twisted way.

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    • on June 3, 2015 at 2:34 pm Donohoe

      Fascinating trait. Suspect my uncle has it too. Freelance computer programmer/manager bloke never stays in 1 place for longer than a week. Absolute pussy slayer. RSPCA shit

      Makes them perfect for PUA though, julien blanc, for example. Sort of parasitic and predatory at the same time

      Don’t normal people get bored of the same girl after 4 months?

      I think the key for psychopaths is to learn to be more natural with it – and relax into their personalities without trying to ‘force’ an impression as CH says – implementing charm in bite size proportion

      I’d set up a workshop/blog, but the crafty fuckers wouldn’t come to it

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      • on June 3, 2015 at 2:57 pm Mr Bigglesworth

        Your uncle sounds like quite a character! James Bond is a classic psychopath too. In truth, we all have a begrudging envy of those types – for their sheer, unashamed brazenness – even if we’re disgusted by the destruction they leave behind.

        “Don’t normal people get bored of the same girl after 4 months?”

        The real test for any relationship comes when the endorphins wear off. Studies have found the chemical-induced high that creates bonding through sex, usually lasts around 2 years.

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      • on June 4, 2015 at 12:43 pm Reco

        Disagree James Bond is trying to do good. And risks his life for a greater cause. Sure he breaks the rules and lives fast and hard but he is not evil. If bond was using his talent to steal from people or gain power then he would be a psychopath.

        Psychopaths use other people to do things for themselves. They break the law. And fuck everyone over. And when they get caught they will be frustrated like they never did anything wrong. Pissed off that anyone had the gall to stop them.

        I don’t think a lot of people on here have ever met a real psychopath or recognized it when you did. The greatest tell is they leave a trail of ino cent victims and bodies in their wake. Figuratively or literally.

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      • on June 4, 2015 at 3:07 pm Benny Hill

        He can still be a psychopath, plenty of surgeons are psychopaths.

        It’s good because they enjoy cutting people open and aren’t bothered by it.

        Psychopath has no value judgement, simply missing the empathy part of the brain.

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      • on June 4, 2015 at 3:10 pm Donohoe

        Yeah, I’d trust a learned psychopath with my brain tumour over a weeping little beta boy straight out of med school

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  12. on June 3, 2015 at 2:29 pm Sentient

    A comment from the site:

    ““One should keep in mind that up to 4% of the population are psychopaths, and it behooves the normal person to understand their nature and how to identify them.”

    Interesting. I would not be surprised if the percentage is as high as 15-20% or so among lawyers, certain finance types, CEOs, and certain sales roles.”

    Have to say the most close I’ve come to these personalities is high end law and finance.

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    • on June 3, 2015 at 4:42 pm Gentleman X

      Lawyers aren’t what you imagine them. Most are ‘legal nerds’ that never see the inside of a courtroom – they build careers on avoiding it.

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      • on June 3, 2015 at 6:04 pm Tilikum

        Agreed. Like cops they are the High School Beta Nerds looking to feel the power they never had.

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      • on June 4, 2015 at 7:30 am yeahokcool

        Can confirm. However, high level litigation draws a lot of spaths in my estimation.

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    • on June 3, 2015 at 6:18 pm Sentient

      Ha. You guys just don’t know powerful lawyers at powerful firms. And nothing of the finance world.

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      • on June 3, 2015 at 6:34 pm Gentleman X

        Oh no, I know a handful of powerful lawyers at powerful firms – but 99% of lawyers aren’t your “Harvey Specter” TV lawyers. They’re case file dorks.

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      • on June 3, 2015 at 6:38 pm Sentient

        And 99%of people aren’t psychopaths. The point being a higher concentration in high end law and finance.

        And politics.

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    • on June 4, 2015 at 7:37 am yeahokcool

      @Sentient. My observations are the same. But don’t forget real estate developers and other entrepreneur business types. The ultimate spath conartists. They are shameless and unlike lawyers and ibankers have almost not laws, rules, or ethical requirements to slow them down. These are my main types of clients and most would kill their own mother for a chance to make some more money and do some more blow. Spath lawyers, at least, have to hold their shit together enough not to get disbarred, which is a great limiter.

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      • on June 4, 2015 at 8:21 am Sentient

        Yeah what’s so impressive about partners in law firms and investment firms is that it’s not limited to their adversaries or competition or clients, it’s also on full display in relations to their firm, partners, creditors and employees… And thought out on a very high level. same with top politicians… I guess it’s the high intelligence that makes them so effective and eerie, more than just fucking someone over. Lot’s of con artist can pull off a con, very few can run a lifetime of cons… and continue to get private and public rewards from it. (Clinton’s, Bush’s, Gore et al)

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      • on June 4, 2015 at 10:29 am yeahokcool

        Absolutely right. Part of what makes many lawyers drunks, drug addicts, and suiciders is that the battle for dominance doesn’t begin and end in the courtroom. When you work with a spath (as I do), you can’t EVER let your guard down even though he’s supposed to be “on your side.” It is pretty fucking stressful for those of us who have normal human emotions. This is also why you have to toughen your ass up and learn to convincingly mimic behavior of spaths to survive.

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      • on June 4, 2015 at 11:22 am Sentient

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      • on June 4, 2015 at 1:31 pm Sentient

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    • on June 4, 2015 at 12:55 pm Reco

      Almost all psychopaths I have dealt with have been Christians. I consider this a reliable tell. Once they start talking about Christianity and their church I start looking for other signs.

      Not that all Christians are psychopaths. Just that psychopaths go where the weak minded are. Plus they like the instant credibility that the church gives them. Great cover.

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      • on June 4, 2015 at 1:32 pm Sentient

        My experience is they have all been jews – FWIW. And it didn’t matter if their victims were jews, or even relations.

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      • on June 4, 2015 at 2:01 pm Greg Eliot

        NAPALT.

        LZOZLZOZLZOZLZOZLZOLZOLOZLOZ

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      • on June 4, 2015 at 3:05 pm Donohoe

        What a completely illogical and interesting idea. Faith is prominent because of it’s emotional attraction – psychopaths have no emotion

        “Not all Christians are psychopaths, but most psychopaths are (at least on the outside) Christian”

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      • on June 5, 2015 at 6:05 am Reco

        This is a very timely subject. I am actually dealing wih two right now. One through my work and one has latched on to a disabled relative. And everyone in my family is asking me to help get his money back. Both were steadfast members of their church and would use that fact to get to know people. And to prey on them.

        The one through work I had no control over he was promoted to that position. A common occurrence. If I can’t root him out and that is a possibility I may have to move jobs. The one through my relative he was warned about him but he would not listen. And it is a large sum of money mossing. Police are involved but it may be too late to get the money back. Anyone know a good forensic accountant?

        This is not shit to play with. These guys will fuck you over.

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      • on June 5, 2015 at 6:30 am Sentient

        “Both were steadfast members of their church and would use that fact to get to know people. And to prey on them.”

        This is the key point – no matter the religion, the warm embrace of a trusted group = borrowed authority and an assumption of shared values… i.e. Madoff

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    • on June 4, 2015 at 4:43 pm Sentient

      Good example here… http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marc_Stuart_Dreier

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      • on June 6, 2015 at 4:03 pm irishsavant

        But….but..I thought all ‘paths were Christian?

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  13. on June 3, 2015 at 2:39 pm martin

    There are two things I have noticed among psychopaths. I haven’t met many and it isn’t clear what the precise difference between a psychopath and a sociopath is but regardless here are my observations. Firstly a person may be a psychopath if you instinctively suspect they have ulterior motives despite being very charming and that these motives seem to be self-serving. Secondly that you have caught them doing something extremely antisocial even though they normally might not appear to be. An example of this is spying on someone or collecting information about someone for some god-forsaken reason like using it for blackmail or maybe to manipulate someone. All this even though they act just like a normal person or try to anyways.

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  14. on June 3, 2015 at 2:40 pm rugby11ljh

    “chicks dig overconfident, charming men with exciting lives.”

    How do you know if your a psychopath?

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  15. on June 3, 2015 at 3:10 pm Mr Bigglesworth

    There’s a brilliant film I watched recently called ‘We Need to Talk About Kevin’. The film is about a mother who realises her son is a psychopath, and how their relationship unfolds as he grows up, culminating in a horrific tragedy.

    It’s an excellent examination of the psychopath’s mindset, with fascinating details. For example, like lots of psychopaths, he keeps his room spotless – not a single picture or poster on the wall, no indication of a personality. Highly recommended.

    *For Brits, it’s still available to watch for free on the BBC iPlayer*

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    • on June 3, 2015 at 3:32 pm Ayy Bola

      This was a good movie regardless. Not really my thing but I was cajoled into seeing it. I would suggest watching it.

      Americans can get it on Amazon Prime Video.

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    • on June 3, 2015 at 9:41 pm Jeff

      Kid in this movie’s not a psychopath–he’s vaguely evil, but in a seething, self conscious way that is totally unlike psychopaths. Psychopaths find it very easy to fake a likable personality and even feel pleasure from duping everyone around them into thinking they’re just like them. Ted Bundy’s mom said he was the best son a mother could hope for. What you’re looking for isn’t sinister intensity, it’s a breezy lack of concern. Like they’ll embroil you in a life-wrecking scam like it’s playing a game of Tetris on their iphone just to kill the boredom. In other words, the real mindfuck is that it’s not that they dislike you–it’s that they don’t dislike you.

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      • on June 4, 2015 at 6:01 am aze

        You do know the topic well.

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      • on June 4, 2015 at 9:41 am Mr Bigglesworth

        This is not simply an angry Goth kid who goes too far. He’s a sadistic psychopath – and it’s evident from every early on.

        However, the vast majority of psychopaths are not killers. They are the type of person you describe.

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      • on June 4, 2015 at 4:06 pm Benny Hill

        I agree from what I’ve seen of the video, maybe just an a-hole looking for attention.

        Written from a normal person’s perspective so they have to show him playing with his food and looking evil. See this kid’s really baaaad…lol

        I don’t think an authentic portrayal would work because people would just see a perfectly normal well behaved kid with no facial expression doing whatever he wants when nobody’s looking.

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    • on June 4, 2015 at 2:47 am PWN

      It’s weird because I find myself in so many psychopathic traits, but I’m so alien to others. I guess I’m a schizophrenic psychopath. I largely don’t care for people and even when I help others, unless friends, I don’t feel anything. And I like my place clean. But on the other hand, I love sunsets, night skies too much and I do feel emotions when something tugs really well at my heart strings, but it’s often different than what makes most people emote. Suffering and victim hood doesn’t move me at all, but success despite low odds or the like works.

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      • on June 4, 2015 at 9:50 am Mr Bigglesworth

        @ PWN – Are you generally a very logical thinker? Have you been accused of being “cold” and lacking emotion? When growing up, did you often feel “like an alien” because other people seemed so different? Are you quite a fussy eater, and like routine and order. And finally, do you have a narrow range of special interests that you tend to fixate on?

        If any of this sounds familiar, look up Aspergers/High Functioning Autism.

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      • on June 4, 2015 at 10:56 am Jeff

        @Mr Bigglesworth, the killers are the type of person I describe too.

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  16. on June 3, 2015 at 3:34 pm Ayy Bola

    Looking over that list of traits, there are some people I have come into contact, the beta/omega types, who exhibit quite a few of those traits. I wonder how they operate and go through life differently from the alpha types who are more successful at life.

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  17. on June 3, 2015 at 3:44 pm Anonymous

    Was Hitler one?

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    • on June 3, 2015 at 7:59 pm meistergedanken

      No. Read the list. He was not impulsive and was capable of exerting self-control. He was, however, a supreme narcissist.

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      • on June 4, 2015 at 3:53 am Donohoe

        The list is bullshit, we all have different levels of dark triad

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      • on June 4, 2015 at 2:38 pm meistergedanken

        Oh, so you are more knowledgeable in this area of psychiatry than the experts of the field? Kewl. (Eye-roll)

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      • on June 4, 2015 at 3:21 pm Benny Hill

        Psychopaths can be extremely controlled and calculating.

        For instance somebody insults you and you want to kill him,

        Instead you show no anger, wait six months and take him out when he’s not looking.

        That’s a psychopath.

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  18. on June 3, 2015 at 4:23 pm ho

    The pathological lying is a dead, DEAD giveaway.

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    • on June 3, 2015 at 4:46 pm rugby11ljh

      I use to he that way or maybe i still am. In order to survive harsh interigation.

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      • on June 3, 2015 at 8:15 pm johncorvus

        Lolwhat? Deets, please

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  19. on June 3, 2015 at 4:30 pm Ronin

    Stay far far away. Even garden variety clinical Narcissists are unreformable.

    But if you’re in their orbit for any length of time and do any digging, you will find the 1 or 2 contradictory clues that call the whole facade into question.

    One guy I knew was high self esteem, charming, talkative, gregarious, but his info and web profile was completely non-existent ghost. His story was that he liked to be the behind the scenes producer, not the star.

    Another I knew was this thousand yard stare pokerface guy who could lie with such startling ease, effectiveness, and dare I say artistic talent, with precisely -zero- change in facial expression or body language, that when I found out I swore I had discovered a new freaking Species of lifeform. -Absolutely terrifying.

    The only thing I can say about him is his smile and facial expressions somehow looked very practiced.

    You have No idea what some of these people are like face-to-face. Take everything you intrinsically feel makes a person Human and vivisect that out of a soul. Just unreal.

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    • on June 3, 2015 at 10:00 pm The Spirit Within

      Great comment.

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    • on June 3, 2015 at 10:55 pm Ripp

      In college I remember this dude from college who was a few years above me in my fraternity. Total spath. And…he was a YKW. Lol…

      He ended up on a 20/20 special years later for running a scam. And the most hilarious part was it was a copycat scam. Meaning he scammed the idea from another dude who was doing the same scam. Lol…

      Thing is though he wasn’t all that clever really IMO. Most of us had him pegged and just avoided anything more than superficial interaction with him.

      What is not mentioned is that not all psychopaths have high IQ. There are plenty of dumb ones like any other class of people.

      And a psychopath is just a person who is full of sh1t all the time…not just sometimes.

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      • on June 4, 2015 at 9:43 am Ronin

        lulz.

        Guy 1 on my list? Ponzi scheme tarted up as a media company.

        A class of more than 25 people took him to court.

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      • on June 4, 2015 at 1:56 pm Mussolini

        Back in the day, my “crew” actually allowed one to run with us. As long as you knew what he was all about – and therefore didn’t believe a word he said or lend him money or property (ie took basic precautions), he was actually quite fun to be around. As you might imagine, he said and did the most ridiculous, unbelievable things. And got laid quite often.

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  20. on June 3, 2015 at 4:34 pm uh

    So all those bitches was right about old uh? Shiiiyit.

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  21. on June 3, 2015 at 4:53 pm James Blonde

    The easiest way to spot a psychopath is to conduct an audit of his friendships.

    He won’t be able to have a friendship with any guy who could potentially kick his ass

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    • on June 3, 2015 at 8:00 pm meistergedanken

      And none of his friendships will have lasted longer than 18 months.

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    • on June 3, 2015 at 8:20 pm In Dick Fuld We Trust

      {James Blonde:

      Punch them in the neck; from then on they will consider boundaries whenever they move their head.

      ***

      The easiest way to spot a psychopath is to conduct an audit of his friendships. He won’t be able to have a friendship with any guy who could potentially kick his ass.}

      you’re on a roll today t-h-w-a-c-k, great comments

      (probable) high functioning psychopaths, that ive encountered in the ‘wild’, surround themselves with easy victims and yes men

      most high functioning (as in less likely to resort to physical violence) psychopaths will feign submission (for a time) and find a softer target when you do the ole’ hand on the shoulder and stare into their soul trick

      that works for the short term, but there is only one long term solution to psychopaths

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      • on June 7, 2015 at 2:31 pm CCG

        “there is only one long term solution to psychopaths”

        What is it? I have to deal with one at Uni, and he’s bigger than me.

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    • on June 3, 2015 at 10:33 pm Ripp

      1 marginally contributing comment out of ~4 million anti white ni66er babbles…

      Hmmm…

      Thw@ck pipe are you trying to put your ASCII hand on our shoulder ?

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      • on June 4, 2015 at 8:39 am James blonde

        if you want a jersey, just ask.

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      • on June 4, 2015 at 8:46 am James blonde

        you guys take my game tips and use them without crediting me; indeed, you even attack me then use them.

        i aint mad at ya; haters gotta hate

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  22. on June 3, 2015 at 4:56 pm mendozatorres

    Looks like the makings of a mini-Rotherham.

    http://hotair.com/archives/2015/06/03/video-101-arrested-in-massive-florida-child-prostitution-sting/

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  23. on June 3, 2015 at 8:01 pm General

    Is this code for Putin is banned?

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    • on June 4, 2015 at 1:27 pm Anonymous

      Did CH ban him?

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  24. on June 3, 2015 at 8:11 pm Prof. Woland

    As a salesman, I am constantly reading people’s body language. It is a big red flag when shaking hands and someone either comes within arms length or touches you somewhere with their other hand. Often, they are probing your personal boundaries and testing your reaction. Frequently these are also the people who will also violate other boundaries given the opportunity. Your suggestion about removing their hand while making eye contact is excellent but it never goes there in a business situation. Every so often, I will shake hands with somebody who ever so slightly tries to gain leverage or will shake his arm up an down very fast but that is less frequent than the typical glad-hander who tries to do the same thing with eye contact or language.

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    • on June 3, 2015 at 8:26 pm In Dick Fuld We Trust

      @Prof. Woland

      great comment

      the worst is when they try to squeeze your fingers rather than your palm

      ‘buddy that aint a handshake, start over’

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      • on June 3, 2015 at 10:02 pm The Spirit Within

        lol, the finger-squeeze is the *worst*

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    • on June 4, 2015 at 7:51 am yeahokcool

      Lots of commenters are conflating alpha male behavior with spathology. I do most of these “spath” assertions of comfort-buiding and display of dominance (e.g., close-talking, hand on shoulder or upper arm, looking directly into someone’s eyes, etc.) on a near-daily basis. I do them in order to win (i.e., manipulate a person or situation to my advantage) and because they work. This is also known as “being successful.” However, I am highly empathetic of others and am not reckless. In fact, I’m overly calculating, if anything. Anyway, some people might assume people like me are spath, but they would be wrong.

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      • on June 4, 2015 at 3:26 pm Benny Hill

        Pretty basic psychopath behavior.

        Good at feigning empathy, do anything to win, cold and calculating.

        Psychopaths are not impulsive, that’s a basic difference between psychopath and sociopath.

        Sociopaths are impulsive with their anti-social behavior.

        Psychopaths are cold and calculating with their anti-social behavior.

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      • on June 4, 2015 at 4:16 pm yeahokcool

        @bh. cool, bro. thanks for proving the point in my first sentence.

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    • on June 4, 2015 at 7:54 am yeahokcool

      I do love the source of your name, Woland. One of my favorite books.

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  25. on June 3, 2015 at 8:41 pm Mike

    Psychopath and Sociopath are two terms for the same disorder. You can also say they have Antisocial Personality Disorder. The changes in terms is for PC purpose, I guess. The Sociopath Next Door is a cool read if you want some insight on how to spot them, especially the dumber and non-charming ones.

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  26. on June 3, 2015 at 8:44 pm Rum

    There are some well designed electro-mechanical traps for literally “catching” sociopaths.
    What to do with them afterwards is usually a complicated and sometimes messy question. But, regardless of what you choose to do, you will not feel bad.

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    • on June 4, 2015 at 5:22 am Sentient

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      • on June 4, 2015 at 1:11 pm Greg Eliot

        Heh, heh… old introspective cat is old… and introspective.

        Never gets old. lzzozlzozlzolzolozl

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      • on June 4, 2015 at 3:58 pm Sentient

        I just wish we could animate it with a voice!

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  27. on June 3, 2015 at 9:21 pm TC

    Jon Ronson’s “The Psychopath Test” gives an interesting and amusing look at that checklist and some famous examples. Having dealt with a couple people like this the only advice I would give is “get the hell away from them”.

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  28. on June 4, 2015 at 1:00 am BC

    A spath red flag I’ve encountered is when a person (usually a man) puts his hand on your shoulder anytime he punctuates a joke he told or an opinion he delivered unsolicited. This is a domination move that forces a fast-tracked intimacy, a classic psycho charm+power offensive.

    Bill Clinton.

    Seriously, if you have ever seen him working a crowd, this is exactly what he does. Former (still living) associates of his have also mentioned it, and it even appeared in the book “Political Colors” (written by a former campaign staff insider).

    But then, politician, so yeah, psychopath.

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  29. on June 4, 2015 at 9:29 am @GeneticPsycho (Tina)

    I grew up in a family of psychopaths, and my perspective enabled me to develop a list of their habits so that anyone can spot them, no matter how nice they appear: http://www.facebook.com/notes/psychopathy-genetics/how-to-spot-a-pro-social-psychopath/781795738538803

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  30. on June 4, 2015 at 12:23 pm uh

    http://www.rooshv.com/the-theory-of-evolution-does-not-apply-to-modern-human-beings

    No enemies to the (true) right, but goddamn — Roosh is full of shit. I could shiv this line-by-line myself.

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    • on June 4, 2015 at 4:01 pm James blonde

      Random mutation and natural selection are poor explicators for the production of new information.

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  31. on June 4, 2015 at 1:58 pm Neecy

    This is the best post and thread I’ve read here in the last 1 1/2 year!

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    • on June 4, 2015 at 4:06 pm James blonde

      you look ripe

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  32. on June 5, 2015 at 2:23 am How To Spot A Psychopath | Truth and contradict...

    […] If the data and personal observation are accurate and America is filling up with sociopaths and psychopaths, then the best advice a person could get is how to spot psychopaths and either avoid them or defend oneself against their charming predations.  […]

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  33. on June 5, 2015 at 4:53 am Wolf N. Shepherd

    Does it make me a sociopath if I tell girls I work at an animal shelter because I just oh-so-adore the sweet little animals when I’m actually an unemployed welfare abuser? I mean, an artist?

    http://www.practicallyalpha.com

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    • on June 8, 2015 at 1:18 pm @GeneticPsycho (Tina)

      If you are a sociopath, you wouldn’t need to ask anyone. Telling people would be nice.

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  34. on June 8, 2015 at 10:12 am disenchantedscholar

    Reblogged this on Philosophies of a Disenchanted Scholar and commented:
    Shark eyes.
    Making their friends miserable and/or suicidal.
    They’re often nomads so they don’t get caught.

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