Think girls don’t know about their complicity in creating safe friendzones for beta male orbiters to asexually occupy?
“Bring the movies”, this guy is not. Even his winky emoticon looks beta, like it’s not sure if the wink is too forward and might anger her.
As far as slap-downs of uppity beta males go, this one is hardcore. Combination shit test and pure sadism, an unbiased observer would have a cold heart if he didn’t feel any pity for the hapless beta. And, to be fair, not many men of whatever SMV ranking would be able to agilely parry that uppercunt and come out on top. But we here at CH mold men who are capable of taking on the hardest of ballbusters and turning those hissing broads into purring kittens.
With that in mind, Reader Ronin throws down the gauntlet,
[W]rite in with your best Captain SlapAHo responses to Emily that this guy could give if he weren’t a beta and/or in the LJBF in the first place.
Many commenters gave suggestions.
“you wish”
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“we’re friends?”
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I think a neg-reframe is the best way to redirect this ship:
“What was that? Your crotch bulge was distracting me”
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Radio Silence.
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the ascii johnson
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You can’t come up with a good answer to this that’s also congruent with his chat until then. He should have teased her about not using makeup instead of kissing her ass and I’d stay away from asking girls how their day has been. Generally, they will volunteer information if they want to talk about it. Asking people the question he did just shows he doesn’t know what to say or it’s what I make of it.
‘what’s a friend zone? does it have a roller coaster?’
******
A CH similar favorite (perhaps not best suited to this occasion) is:
“You flatter yourself.” (Or “don’t flatter yourself” if you’re dealing with a real temptress requiring a sharper edge.)
All of the suggestions are serviceable, only a couple are particularly good. You can’t go wrong with a “8===>~~~”, or a Birthday Cat. The best suggestion is the neg-reframe, (or as it’s more commonly known, “agree&lify”). You stand accused of desiring a sup of sweet slit, so why not try refreshing honesty and take her at her word? “Yeah, I’m jizzing in my pants right now thinking about your winning personality.” It’s better than the apologetic alternative, and you have given yourself a chance to turn a female friend into a lover.
Stay away from feigning ignorance about the friendzone (or about your friendship). No chick is gonna buy that act, and you’ll come across try-hard and butthurt. This set-up is difficult for newbs because it’s a real honey trap for betas who are prone to wearing their hurt feelings on their sleeves. That’s why it’s in a post; if you know how to handle the really tough stuff, you’ll glide through the easy pickups.
Yes, this guy started off on the wrong foot. He was two strikes down after he asked her how her day was going (lame) and called her beautiful (lamer). Just about anything he said after that to save face would have seemed incongruent. Given that reality, he may as well try a 180 in his conversational technique and summon his inner jerkboy begging to be released to the wilds. She will balk, naturally, but after a cooling-off period (say, a week), she’d be back, and that’s when he’d finally have a crack at steering their relationship to moister grounds.
What does an inner jerkboy do? He ASSUMES THE SALE.
“Walk me back?”
“Back to that friend zone you just tried to escape from :)”
“You’d like that, wouldn’t you.”
Ultimately it comes down to a choice: Do you want to risk losing a female buddy for a shot at fulfilling your deepest desire with her, or do you want to carry on as a eunuch in her entourage satisfied with the faintest eddies of pleasure that ripple your way when she hangs out with you, always a torturous five feet from your insolent erection?
If the former, then dial up your jerkboy to 11, and tempt a fate that, either way, will be a blessing for you.
All good suggestions, except when it’s already gotten this bad, there’s no way back. Anyone making any of those suggestions, anyone reading this blog in fact, would never have let it get to that place in the first instance.
FWIW, if this poor sucker really still intended to have anything to do with her, she’d have to be called on such snotty condescension, and called hard. I suggest something along the lines of: “Only thing I’m escaping from is your ageing bitchy ass. Why do you think I never made a move on it in the first place?”
But like I said, any answer here is too little too late. Even if it is misinterpreted as butthurt, silence, next and mosey along, amigo.
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good points
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BETAS: There is also the phenomenon of Iron Lady Sexual Market Place Forced-Segmentationism, where if you try to make a move from Lesser Beta to Greater Alpha, and upset the stasis of the Sexual Market Place, the Iron Ladies will pounce all over you like a pack of hyenas on a young gazelle with a bum leg, and rip you to shreds for being uppity and trying to improve your lot in life. Some dudes say it’s so bad that they have to move into an entirely new circle of friends [and even to a new geographic location] and re-invent themselves from scratch.
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Ooops – meant to say just the small movement from “from Greater Beta to Lesser Alpha” – the Iron Ladies would be vastly more vicious if you tried to make the huge jump from Lesser Beta to Greater Alpha. LOL’ed.
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I haven’t really experienced that. Usually, if I run into girls that I haven’t seen in several years since my beta days, including ones who had previously turned me down, they seem to act friendlier and flirtier upon being exposed to my new personality and attitude. The dudes seem to think I’m cooler somehow.
Maybe those Iron Ladies you speak of have a particularly bad case of The Darkness.
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corvinus, I think it’s in these highly formalized very cloistered social circles, where everyone is supposed to “know their place”, and where the Iron Ladies enforce the Segmentationism with their Iron Fists. What you’re describing – being absent from a chick’s life for a few years – offers the perfect opportunity for her reintroduction to The New You. But if you’re in one of these very rigid very static “high school lunch table” environments, then woe be unto the Beta who tries to act out and start putting on the airs of Alphatude.
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Corvinus. I agree. Went to a high school reunion and the girls sure were cozying up to me. Learned a lot since my younger days
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The kind of place where I’ve seen this is in e.g. upscale hospitals, on a very large, very busy, high-end nursing station [typically a massive ICU], where you might get upwards of 10 new nurses with newly minted BSNs coming into the ward, and after they’ve got their footing, they’ll start segmenting the male employees into “He’s a Nice Guy” [whom she would never get involved with] and “He’s such a Jerk” [whom she would surrender her @nus to], and woe be unto the male employee who tries to make the transition from “Nice Guy” to “Jerk”.
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If I were a Beta, stuck in a rigidly authoritarian social situation like that, then either I’d start a secret Alpha life that no one knew about [which can be difficult if, at all the best night life spots, you’re constantly seeing people who know the Beta you], or else I’d get a new job, maybe in a new city, and start over with a new set of acquaintances, and swear to myself that I would never go back to my old Beta ways. Clawing your way up through a rigidly authoritarian social situation might require years of effort on a Beta’s part – it seems like it would be a lot easier just to start all over from scratch.
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First off, who cares? Is she the only bitch on the planet? Say whatever you want but be aggressive and don’t take her shit.
No thanks, walk yourself back to IDGAFville with your cat
lol
sure, if you can still walk after I have my way with your erogenous zone
fuck you bitch
just pick one…it’s like Terminator, just go with however you feel. F bitchez
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and woe be unto the male employee who tries to make the transition from “Nice Guy” to “Jerk”.
I suppose short-term transitions would have the effect of disturbing some people. I acted like a serious beta with one group a few years ago, and one of the girls was super nice to me. When I turned alpha over the course of a couple of years, she seemed to get, well, not necessarily weirded out, but rather she dropped her pretense of being my friend and turned completely indifferent. (And in case you’re wondering, she is an average-looking girl, about a 5 or 6.) Her brothers have remained friendly to me, though.
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corvinus, now imagine that girl if she were a lot sassier and a lot bossier and if it were her “job” to hold the social circle in rigid stasis – no dynamism within the social circle, just stasis.
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He should find a high rez picture of his favorite pornstar looking amazing, but by herself (photo shoot type pic). Make sure porn girl is noticeably hotter than the girl he’s gaming. Attach it to a text or email that says “will you send me a picture of you in this position?”
Then radio silence, for at least two weeks.
It’s a semi-nuke move but he’s got nothing to lose.
Then maybe a month later text “drinks?”
If he hears from her he’s got hand.
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that’s brilliant.
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Man, I dunno. I do pretty alright and sometimes the beezy’s just need some psycho game and will try and push you into it.
My response? (based on my personality NOT FOR THE AVERAGE DUDE):
“Girls never escape MY friend zone cause they cant chew through the duct tape or open the trunk from the inside :)” SMILEY MANDATORY.
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None of those were good suggestions. The question wae basically “how do you win a fight after your opponent knocks you out.” You don’t buddy, licks your wounds and pick a different opponent next time.
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u can walk me back after i cum on your face zllzlzlzzolzlzlzz
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Yeah, it’s irretrievable from a relationship perspective, but there’s a face-saving exit:
Him: “OMG! Thankyouthankyouthankyou you don’t even realize it, but you literally SAVED my LIFE! This is so exciting!”
Here: “LOL. Yeah? How so? Scary outside friend zone?”
Him: “No, no – Until now, I had only HEARD about chicks who are superficially attractive on the outside, but who are ugly and broken on the inside. Maybe I’ve met them before, but you’re the only one dumb enough to let the mask slip!”
Him (rapid follow up, w/o allowing time for her response): “So you’ve given me a great early lesson in cunt recognition! I’ll know more of the signs in the future.”
Him: “Bye now.”
Her: “LOL. Yeah, don’t be so butthurt.”
Him: [Radio silence]
Her: “Fuck you.”
Him: [Radio silence]
The above depends on her taking the bait he’s dangling in the first post-burn response — he has to make it cryptic enough that she’s a little puzzled by a seemingly odd reaction, but not on her guard. If she does, he’s on the right path, because now she’s reacting to him and his frame.
Obviously, he HAS to maintain the radio silence ad infinitum – and, since they apparently know each other IRL, every time he sees her he has to smirk self-confidently while holding eye contact for a minute, and say nothing (maybe look her up and down and then turn away and resume a conversation with someone else).
He should NOT initiate conversation. The face-savingness of this depends on him being able to dominate her self-awareness with the understanding that he thinks she’s a cunt and has contempt for her, rather than her feeling like he’s thinking about how she friend-zoned him. She has to feel like she’s inadvertently stripped herself psychologically naked in front of him while she thought she was cutting him. If she tries to speak with him, his response should be something like “Now, now – stop trying. We both know what you are.”
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Yeah, you can always count on girls to follow every step of the elaborate fantasy script you dream up. And nothing makes a girl feel cut down to size quite like a wordy mewling dribble of beta male rage.
Flawless plan, champ. Let me know how it works out.
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Wow, so alpha, Chip.
(shiv strength 2/10 – neoprene)
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You can see in the screenshot that he responded. I’m dying to know what it was!
It couldn’t possibly be worse than what he already wrote, can it?
$10 says it was an apology to her.
“Oh no,no,no,no,no! I’m sooooo sorry! That’s not what I meant beautiful!”
Poor guy.
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Ugh, would love to know also…
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it’s painful because it’s already screwed and i’m sure his response was as bad as the rest, but geez she’s a piece of crap, she just did it for the lulz he wasn’t really even pestering like a lot of them (and me, past) do
i think on this one the answer is radio silence. i screwed one up so bad, and became so much a bitch like this, that i literally had to stop answering the phone for two years. it was a girl with initial interest, that i turned sexless.
anyway, silence won’t fix it, it’ll only stop the bleeding. but attacking from as low as he is won’t help, and nothing positive’s ever coming from her anyway
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“nothing positive’s ever coming from her anyway”
great point.
he could…maybe…recover. doubtful but possible. even so, what’s the point? he turns it around and hooks a bitchy girl who will most likely make him miserable. how is that winning?
he’s better off cutting his losses and moving on with this one.
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Calling her bitchy is beta and pointless. Her reaction to an unattractive beta is no different to how you would react if a fat munter pulled the same kind of thing with you. You may not acknowledge it in writing, but you’d think it.
The focus should be on improving his game only. She’s under no obligation to treat him much better after he’s voluntarily removed his nads and given them to her for safe keeping.
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Absolutely, he went apologetic / denial mode.
In my game-less youth, I might have whiffed at the plate like this a couple of times. I remember the mindset all too well. Emily just stuck a post-it note on his forehead that reads YOU ARE A LJBF BETA. Total humiliation. And he will still find a way to rationalize to himself: I know she’ll like me if I’m even nicer, more contrite and more respectful to her.
No amount of this re-establish-the-boundaries-of-the-FZ / put-him-in-his-place behavior from her will deter him in the slightest. No amount.
His only hope is to get advice from a buddy with game, or run across a website (like this one) that tells it like it is (I did, by accident, and it changed me).
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[Late to the party on this because I just found this site]
Yeah, it’s irretrievable from a relationship perspective, but there’s a face-saving exit:
Him: “OMG! Thankyouthankyouthankyou you don’t even realize it, but you literally SAVED my LIFE! This is so exciting!”
Here: “LOL. Yeah? How so? Scary outside friend zone?”
Him: “No, no – Until now, I had only HEARD about chicks who are superficially attractive on the outside, but who are ugly and broken on the inside. Maybe I’ve met them before, but you’re the only one dumb enough to let the mask slip!”
Him (rapid follow up, w/o allowing time for her response): “So you’ve given me a great early lesson in cunt recognition! I’ll know more of the signs in the future.”
Him: “Bye now.”
Her: “LOL. Yeah, don’t be so butthurt.”
Him: [Radio silence]
Her: “Fuck you.”
Him: [Radio silence]
The above depends on her taking the bait he’s dangling in the first post-burn response — he has to make it cryptic enough that she’s a little puzzled by a seemingly odd reaction, but not on her guard. If she does, he’s on the right path, because now she’s reacting to him and his frame.
Obviously, he HAS to maintain the radio silence ad infinitum – and, since they apparently know each other IRL, every time he sees her he has to smirk self-confidently while holding eye contact for a minute, and say nothing (maybe look her up and down and then turn away and resume a conversation with someone else).
He should NOT initiate conversation. The face-savingness of this depends on him being able to dominate her self-awareness with the understanding that he thinks she’s a cunt and has contempt for her, rather than her feeling like he’s thinking about how she friend-zoned him. She has to feel like she’s inadvertently stripped herself psychologically naked in front of him while she thought she was cutting him. If she tries to speak with him, his response should be something like “Now, now – stop trying. We both know what you are.”
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Irretrievable really.
I’d try not to get myself into this position to begin with but at this juncture would have to go into full frontal assault mode here:
“Nah, let’s go to the Friends With Benefits Room instead.”
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Nothing’s irretrievable.
“Back to that friend zone you just tried to escape from.”
“Escaping the friend zone? That implies I’m sexually attracted to you, let’s not get ahead of ourselves.”
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Close. You just need to mention a few logical fallacies by name and reference an obscure Dr Who episode to get the full smoove pimp groove in full effect.
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@ Joe:
-Nah, let’s go to the Friends With Benefits Room instead.
Not bad…rescue a flirty vibe this way
@ Modsquad
-Escaping the friend zone? That implies I’m sexually attracted to you, let’s not get ahead of ourselves.
Right idea, too wordy…go pithier / jerkier:
“No girl has ever built the friend zone that can hold me”
“You couldn’t pay me enough”
“Gay”
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““Escaping the friend zone? That implies I’m sexually attracted to you, let’s not get ahead of ourselves.””
You think that would actually work? Hahahahahahahaha.
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I was thinking of a similar approach, but with a subtler neg: “No, I like it here in the friend zone. I was just trying to give your self confidence a boost like a good friend should.”
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Churlish “I know you are, but what am I.”
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How about the vaguely dismissive:
right
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ME: What your moms phone#?
Her: What? Why do you want my moms #?
ME: Well if your not going to give me any action I am going to fuck your mother
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Oh baby no need
to move your fat ass
I am driving,…
a Ford Escape
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“I’m gonna fuck your mom.”
A classic:
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That man is a real American hero
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I know a guy whose ex-partner was giving a hard time, custody issues regarding children and other stuff. In an asshole move he then at some point propositioned her mother. The mother a nutcase herself, passed information on to the daughter but apparently told it in an asshole sting-in-the-tail way herself(he bargained on this). His ex then showed up at his house so that she could be fucked. This after they had been separated for a few years. If your life ends up shit what the hell.
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Im gonna tell her you said that. Lol
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“You stand accused of desiring a sup of sweet slit, so why not try refreshing honesty and take her at her word? ‘Yeah, I’m jizzing in my pants right now thinking about your winning personality.'”
I’d go with something like this. At the point of no return, you either cut your losses, use a variation on the nuclear opener, or ask about her friends.
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NONE of the replies works because he’s already complimented her looks 2 times. None. I doubt that they are friends because he comes off creepy. Who the fuck asks, “how’s your day goin beautiful”?
The only thing he can do is disappear for a few weeks, then come back with asshole game. Sluts have short attention spans, so she won’t even remember his previous wussy game. Or if she does, he can just say it was satire — he was making fun of guys that talk like that.
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I just send “Wear a miniskirt and no panties”.
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“Only if you walk on all fours, before me. Nekked.”
Or:
“Yeah right; you know I only like clean girls.”
That last ought to get her breasts a-heavin’.
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He never should have taken the bait in the first place. Consider the conversation below:
“Haha that’s funny! XD I wasn’t even wearing makeup today”
“Well hey they have good taste at least. ;)”
“Haha I know right :)”
“Yup! So hows your day goin beautiful :p”
“It’s good, do you need me to walk you back?”
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Aaanndd silence. Right there. She expects him to ask the obvious question, and it’s obvious she expects him to ask it. He should have stopped talking right then. It immediately flips the script and makes her on the chasing end. She wants him to answer, and not doing so will cause that hamster wheel to spin.
Forget that he should never have complimented her indirectly about the good taste “they” have in regards to her, or that he asked her how her day was going, AND called her beautiful. Those were typical beta mistakes, but he might have been able to salvage it a little bit if he hadn’t sprung the obvious trap. Had he not walked into the ambush, the result might have been something like this:
“Yup! So hows your day goin beautiful :p”
“It’s good, do you need me to walk you back?”
…
[Less than five minutes later]: “You didn’t answer my question.”
[Two or three hours later]: “8===>~~~” [or Birthday Cat]
[Immediately]: “What the heck is that?”
Continue with regular game. The point is, she wants to spring that trap so bad she’ll walk right into one herself. All you have to do is set it up and wait.
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First, I never would have complimented this girl. I’d have stopped her in her tracks when she was complimenting herself with a pearl of Red Pill wisdom my mother used to drop when people remarked on the men who complimented her:
“Please. Guys will look at anything.”
But if she did pull out that friend zone comment, I’d probably reply with a curve ball like this:
“Actually, I’m trying to get you to have a threesome with me this new girl I’m seeing.”
When she refused, I’d respond with: “So I guess filming it is totally out of the question, then?”
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I’m curious as to know what his response was after her atomic shit test. My next response would be a picture of me and girl who looks better than her. With “it’s okay, I prefer girls who wear make up”. I doubt he has a girl to take a pic with. That’s the only way I see this doing a 180 from the Beta Wastelands.
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“You’re not very observant. I’m interested in your friend _____.”
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He should never have taken the bait in the first place. Consider the conversation below:
“Hahaha that’s funny! XD I wasn’t even wearing makeup today”
“Well hey they have good taste at least. ;)”
“Haha I know right :)”
“Yup! So hows your day goin beautiful ;p”
“It’s good, do you need me to walk you back?”
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Aaanndd silence. Forget that he made the typical beta mistakes of indirectly complimenting her about the good taste “they” have with regard to her, asking how her day was going, AND calling her beautiful. When a girl asks a question, she pines for an answer, especially one of this nature. She wants him to answer, and spring the obvious trap, and it’s obvious that she wants him to do so. If he doesn’t answer, her hamster wheel starts to spin. As a result, the conversation could have continued something like this:
“Yup! So hows your day goin beautiful ;p”
“It’s good, do you need me to walk you back?”
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[Five minutes or less]: “You didn’t answer my question… :(”
[Two or three hours later]: “8===>~~~” [or Birthday Cat]
[Immediately]: “What the heck is that?”
Commence normal game. The point is, she wants him to walk into the trap so badly that she’ll walk into one herself for the chance to spring it. All you have to do is set it and wait.
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Did you wanna walk back to the pier or have you done enough fishing for validation already?
I wouldn’t actually say that obviously since at this point the whole endeavor is an unmitigated failure already. And that line wouldn’t work in this context because he took the beta bait hook line and sinker. But this woman definitely needs to be put in her place. This cunty behavior is the trademark province of 5-7s.
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You seem like a bright spark playa… You got potential but you need to realize it nome sayin?
Check out my player guide!
https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/1173808-elliot-rodger-manifesto.html
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fuck this asshole.
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https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSd5CbtAAVBbFsV9JU-cALZBt_AoWJwtWWU9SdajC5RhOHWUDu5GQ
Slow your roll there Gao… [whispers] After practice mmm’kay?
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Where does Putin live?
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Russia
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Apparently it’s a thing among girls to put down beta orbiters like that. Another example:
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Thanks for posting this. I figured this must be a “thing.” Most women are herd animals who parrot what they see elsewhere.
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probably also a ‘thing’ that fat women create on screenshot sites and pretend it happens more than it does. not to say that it doesn’t happen, but that language is near verbatim. and women keep orbiters for a reason, to extract validation and money from them without giving them sex. and women do like validation and money. so in most cases, i don’t believe they’d be this directly cuntish IF the guy was providing those things
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and women keep orbiters for a reason, to extract validation and money from them without giving them sex.
My impression is that beta orbiters are essentially human dogs in the girls’ minds. Most people like dogs, and girls have the benefit of being able to get dogs with reasoning capability.
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Response:
“oh princess thinks she has game.” or ” Its all in your head sweetheart”
Follow either with radian silence.
Its funny the last girl I hooked up with named Emily- had emphatically stated on her Tinder profile – she wasn’t looking for a “casual hook up”. Within 2 hours of meeting she sucked me dry – swallowed . I then banged her rough and hard – followed up with a very aggressive face fuck. Afterwards – she says to me ” I know you don’t want a relationship but how does FWB sound?” So much ” not interested in casual hookup”
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That highlights one of my many problems right there – I (a) can’t contain my utter contempt for people who lie habitually, and (b) can’t enjoy sticking it in people I despise. Which, these days, really curtails the options.
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That makes you (a) normal and (b) not un-normal. I also have no ability for same-night lay or one-night stands with repugnant slarts.
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My first thought is: “Well fuck you too, eh?” Possibly with one of them smileys he likes so much after that. But no winking smiley, ever.
This reminds me of a girl I wrote to through a site once, who immediately started shit testing. Her first reply was: “Ha, you’re trying to pick me up now?”
I wrote back: “Geez, take it easy, are you always that fast?”
She wrote: “Messing with you. Your letter came right after very socially-uncalibrated one, so made you shine.”
Socially-uncalibrated? Here you start seeing what kind of girl this is. “Sociology” studies is a given. I was thinking I should just drop it but went on anyway:
“Thanks I guess? Like to think I’m able to shine without any help, though. Especially on messy weekends. You must have a little chaos inside to give birth to a dancing star.” (That’s a Nietzsche quote, would have been fun if she’d known that.)
She: “I have no idea about your shining potential and benchmarking always works. Lots of chaos inside. Why messy weekend?”
Me: “Benchmarking? Do you mean benchpressing? I bet it helps. Yes, working, trying to finish something until tomorrow. (Wrote some more about what I had been doing.)”
Her uppity three-part reply:
“Man, you don’t know what benchmarking is? What do you work with? Sounds way too innocent. Doing a biology PHD?
“Was okay weekend, didn’t put any social or other expectations on myself so had no chance to underperform. But important delivery tomorrow so focusing now.
“‘Benchmarking is the process of comparing one’s business processes and performance metrics to industry bests or best practices from other companies.'”
Me, three parts:
“You mean sizing up the competition? Then say so! You’re in economics? Pastry delivery or delivery in front of an audience?
“You mean there are weekends where you put social or other expectations on yourself? Business suit instead of sweatpants?
“(Writing what I was doing) so drinking lots of coffee.”
Her once again bitchy reply:
“I am putting expectations on myself all the time, that’s a life some people are living 😉
“Nah, no economics for me. No pastries either.
“(Question about my job) Weird that an adult is still helped by coffee. How old are you?”
……….And after that I stopped replying. It seemed she was just using anything I said as a way to insult me. Plus, her profile upon further inspection showed she was into “LGBT” nonsense, so possibly she was a homosexual feminist. I forgot about her.
But two days later, lo and behold, she wrote to me again: “How did the deadline go?”
I replied briefly. She sounded slightly more like a normal person, not too much shit testing, and we met up later in the week.
She was ten years younger than me, good-looking – which is probably why people put up with her. But weird girl. While we had coffee she told me that she didn’t like seeing family and didn’t like being out in nature. I have never heard anyone say that. She was also an Ayn Rand fan, which no woman should be. Ayn Rand distorted the Right’s private-ownership message into “you should be selfish at all times in your life”. It’s nuts. We had a conversation about economics for a while, a topic I knew much better than her, so she was interested in hearing about it. But if I’m talking about economics that means I have lost interest in the date already. Never saw her again. Still, it was fun to see that I could get a date after all that shit testing. That’s pretty much the only reason I went.
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“She was also an Ayn Rand fan, which no woman should be. Ayn Rand distorted the Right’s private-ownership message into “you should be selfish at all times in your life”.” – RUH ROH. ARBITER GOING TRADCON. PIGS FLY AT ELEVEN. STAY TUNED.
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Ayn Rand is chock-full of Aryan heroes having their way with strong womym, even to the point of rape if that’s what it takes to put them back in their rightful subordinate position.
She may be a yid herself, but if you think her message is mere “selfishness” you’re missing the point that said selfishness is merely “be true to thyself” and the result, when men are men of talent and worth, benefits all those they deem their own.
All her villians are also distinctly uber-beta cowardly traitors, disingenuous SJWs, or outright nefarious tribesmen (or near-so, in name and appearance).
She saw the results of the Russian Revolution first-hand, so I’m guessing the lessons of her youth cut deep.
And yeah, in the real-world she sided with her own on the Israel question, and had her own flouncing about as a cougar slut, but what do you expect?
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“you should be selfish at all times in your life”
try reading ‘the virtue of selfishness’ it’s not really as you have it there, it’s maybe more “put your own oxygen mask on before anyone else” and then once you’re ok, do for others inasmuch as you value what they bring to your life. which, with girls specifically, isn’t a half bad rule of thumb
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Thank you. Well-said, and the analogy with the oxygen mask was apt indeed.
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“you should be selfish at all times in your life”
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nawh player , try reading about abundance
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burke and Greg Eliot nailed it.
your girl may have been a weirdo. or likely just immature and choosing to misinterpret ayn rand’s writing to suit her own self interests.
if you’ve ever read any of rand’s stuff you’d know that the themes are as red pill as they get. good stuff.
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Dude, how could she be ten years younger?!?!?You are like 22 no?
Fucking kinky man but I guess its ok and legal in whatever third world shithole your from maybe?
This website can be both entertaining and outstandingly freakish.
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“Socially-uncalibrated? Here you start seeing what kind of girl this is. “Sociology” studies is a given.”
The only times I’ve heard calibrated/uncalibrated used in relation to social skills and charm have been in pick-up contexts. E.g. yareally uses them all the time. Could be she has some PUA awareness? Kind of sounds like she read about shit-tests and took it as a suggestion: she seems to be trying too hard with them, like she’s making a conscious effort instead of letting them come out naturally.
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I’d say the only way to answer this (after the guy pities himself for a bit) is:
“Okay, you got me. But let’s fuck first, then you can walk me back.”
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I like this one.
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I agree, it’s a good reply. The situation is irretrievable and the problem is how to maintain your dignity (without butthurt) in the face of full on bitch. I would have tweaked it a bit.
“Oh, I see….”
2 mins later
“how about a fuck then. Anal’s Ok.”
..radio silence.
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Another one which I’ve used in various circumstances is,
“is it that time of the month?”
Followed by radio silence on the phone. But if it is face to face, you’ve got to follow it up with a shit eating grin and walk away.
I learned it the hard way.
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“I wasn’t wearing makeup today.”
“So, I’m getting ready to go scuba diving at Puerto Vallarta….”
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I can’t imagine a woman saying that to me. That is stone cold weapons-grade cunt behavior.
You have too much time on your hands, and certainly not enough options in the dating market, if you waste one minute concocting a reply to this smug bitch.
There is only one rational and defensible response to this level of emasculating cuntery….an immediate, absolute and irrevocable hard next.
If a woman manifests this level of casual disrespect and impertinence toward you, you are not getting your hands on her zipper. Whatever you have done up to this point to make her think she can treat you like a used Kleenex, it is now too late.
I’d immediately delete her from my phone and all social networks and never again answer a text or call from her. End of story.
“If I do that, she’ll think I’m too sensitive/butthurt/wounded/whateverwhatever”.
So?
I repeat…she couldn’t have indicated her lack of respect any more clearly if she had wiped a booger on your forehead. You are not getting in her pants. Therefore, unless you are okay with being a permanent resident of her friendzone, any time you spend on your alpha retorts is by definition time wasted.
Next this awful ho, figure out where you went wrong, move on.
Next next next.
[CH: every friendzone girl is convertible. it’s just a question of skill level and desire to convert,]
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I can’t imagine a woman saying that to me. That is stone cold weapons-grade cunt behavior.
In response to lickspittle beta male behavior.
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“If a woman manifests this level of casual disrespect and impertinence toward you”
Highly disagree. Can’t remember who said it, but if you don’t escalate with a woman, it’s disrespectful to her as a women since all of them want to feel desired enough for the man to act on that desire. I mean, she’s basically telling the beta to listen to his own dick. His dick knows the truth too. His dick is always telling him the same thing that “disrespectrul, impertinent” woman did, and that’s to ACT!
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Behavior like this is why one of them, somewhere, will not be getting her 5-figure princess wedding from me + half my assets. My only regret is that I have but one wedding vow to withhold.
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Dude that is just them qualifying you. Nut up and learn to deflect it or go the hell home.
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I’d say damn near anything you say in response to this is going to come across as false and try hard. Sure , sustained application of tight game might get you in those pants down the road. So? Are those the only pants you know? I submit that my solution is still best. Next and move on. While you are still calibrating your text responses to this bitch, I’ll have already made my move on the next one. I’m a little older and divorced, and the women I typically date are around 38-40 and are all crazy and damaged as hell. There is just no reason for me to waste much time farting around with any one of them. If I get static, I’m out. It’s working for me.
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“My friend zones all come with benefits. Sounds like you want my benefits.”
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What does it mean when a women starts playing with her hair?
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Pubic hair?
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Head hair you moron.
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Lol
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It means she’s thinking about someone who can take a joke m8
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Really.
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LOL…
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HA HA HA
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LOLOL OMG, you guys. Jeez.
Possibly distracted, self-conscious, or thoughtful.
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if she is running her hand through her hair, or basically grooming, it means she likes you jack
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If you’re asking this question you’re clutching at straws.
Escalate then her responses will be crystal clear.
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That new anti-lice shampoo doesn’t work for shit.
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Reframes are good…. “we’ll see how you play your cards” usually works well with these kind of “no you aren’t” shit tests, it’s a bit of a non sequitur reframes and flips the script… and easy to remember…
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The best responses won’t have a trace of butt hurt about them and will get her to laugh (at herself really) or qualify to you… That is what happens when you deliver from a frame of superiority, when you can do both parts…
That kind of response makes her go “tingle tingle who is this guy”…
Just insulting her? Is that how you would respond to your bratty 4 YO little sister?
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First: He should not be hanging with a female that he isn’t fucking and probably will never fuck. Stop being a chump.
Second: His response should have been: “Don’t bother, you have nothing I need”
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sup playa? You got some gas money for the B Shiz? Let’s go sarge brah!
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Heh, heh… never gets old.
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Termininal gay face.
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Veddy, veddy Freddy Mercury!
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Do you do workshops, brah?
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OT but for a good time GoogleImages(“writer living in Brooklyn, NY”).
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fucking hell
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you asshole elmer
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I need a towel. And a cigarette.
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so triggered I shit my pants. Fuck you elmer
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You may enjoy this documentary :
The Cougar Controversy: Older Women Dating Younger Men
Dr. Phil explores the controversial trend of older women dating much younger men. Hear from three self-admitted cougars who say there’s nothing wrong with dating men 20 to 30 years their junior. Can these relationships really survive such a significant age gap?
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Good.
This is a positive thing. Women being blatant about being disgusted about beta behavior will only change things for the better.
Only the most beta of men will keep doing these things when girls don’t even bother to posture pretense.
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“Friend zone”? That’s your anus right? Ok, but bring lube.
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“Bring the lube”
Just enough
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Only weak people get targeted the way he was.
I hope this was a lesson for him, and moves him to take a look at what he expects from himself and from others, and how he comes across. That’s a lot more important than coming up with a one-off crackback to take this snotty bitch down a notch.
If he needs a theme to keep his mind straight after her attack on him, he might try “Living well is the best revenge”. He should focus on establishing himself socially, professionally, academically, and in whatever other ways are relevant to his own needs and goals at this time of life. That way he moves ahead, and leaves her in his wake. Perhaps one day she’ll be fretting about how she drove a good man away… but he’ll be on to other things and won’t care much.
[CH: he should learn game, too. and acquaint himself with the growing knowledge base about female sexual and romantic nature.]
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Stupid fucking cunt! I play hockey!!! You’re lucky I even reply to any of your texts you stupid whore!!!!
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LOL… classic…
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Superb screen name. Hat tip.
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I would answer “I did escape.” And then delete her from my list nonchalantly. If she comes after me, then I win. If she doesn’t come after me, why bother to pursue her further when we have reached that point already? There are plenty of other fruits on the tree.
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I don’t like. It’s honest, but has a whiff of russeled jimmies. That whore needs to sence his indifference, not his dinged inner emotional landscape.
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Third reply was even worse. Her frame was literally setting him up for a the butt of a joke, and it does not get anymore her frame than that. You might get a dime back for the dollar at best with
“Then stop looking at my ass”
“I am zoned to dump junk on prestigious boulevards”
And that is just to walk away with a little self respect…
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Bitch please I go wherever I want
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” no really, i love your caitlyn jenner-style!”
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I think I may have found the original via Reddit on Imgur.
He’s in denial so much, he actually makes excuses for her his comment. #justbluepillthings lol
He hasn’t posted the follow-up text or responded to the comments in the thread, though.
Orig: http://imgur.com/gallery/8oUiFlT
Via: http://www.reddit.com/r/cringepics/comments/372lao/getting_walked_back_to_the_friend_zone/
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CH, I found the original but got modded. Approve, please.
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“yea i dont swing that way. ur not fooling anyone with those mustaches”
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Don’t be too harsh on her guys. Maybe it was Dylan Garity?
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3116786/Someone-says-wrong-thing-time-ve-poured-tequila-dead-murder-mayor-s-entire-family-drug-cartel-turned-peaceful-Mexican-town-one-dangerous-Earth.html
mmm. fuck.
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Agreed with all, at this point you’re asking what caliber bullet to shoot at a bomb dropping on your head.
Agreed with immediate downgrade (D-list backburner), but I’d have to give her a bit of a swipe back over a go radio silent, it always seems butthurt to not respond.
“Back to that friend zone you just tried to escape from :)”
“LOL, why walk, we can ride your inflated ego right over it.”
No need to be direct and cruel (although she is being to this beta), being overly mean in response shows you’re taking her and her antics way too seriously. Don’t give her the satisfaction.
After sending, I would slap her on the D-list, which means no initiated contact, only respond to her, and only if it is non-friendzone non-bitchy talk. Probably safer for the noobs to hard next though.
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Good comeback. +1
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Fucking SOLID.
“LOL, why walk, we can ride your inflated ego right over it.”
Almost like it better than mine.
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Thanks. I say always right to strike a balance between not taking her serious and a nice knockdown. Straight insults = beta butthurt. Letting it pass = soul rotting meekness. Knock her back like you would a silly child, but in your mind downgrade her to shit list status. You can’t respect a girl who treats you like this, though betas by definition would.
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As so many here seem to have realized (on some level at least) she’s really challenging you to escape the friend zone.
If you’re in two minds about whether to ‘sacrifice the friendship’ with a girl or not … always sacrifice the friendship.
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I might try something along the lines of:
“No? Well I’m going to be having sex tonight, and you’re welcome to join.”
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should have blown a hole in her joke with no response after ‘its good do you need me to walk you back?”
cant have a knock knock joke without ‘whos there?’
but this chump didnt have the social iq to see that she was setting up a joke
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Yup.
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And now that he was caught out by his ‘buddy’, could he not commend her on her humour? (even though we know it’s a herd meme doing the rounds on the female iphone circuit)
Something like ‘oh u cheeky mare! Hats off to you- that was straight for the jugular! And there I was thinking those ruthless assassinistas were Hollywood fantasy-u go grrrl! I’m so ashamed now that the walk back will help me appreciate how u felt on all those walks of shame you were telling me about. Besties foreva!!!’
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“Behave”
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I agree – the walawala classic. or “lol behave” + radio silence for a while. Anything that isn’t amused mastery will just be interpreted as butthurt/tryhard = she wins you fail. Assume the sale – you have to punish her for being cunty, but if you have no hand at all, like this AFC, you’ve got nothing to punish with. Whatever the case, you have to hold your frame and don’t backpeddle.
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This works in almost every situation.
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I read this in Austin Powers’s voice.
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[…] Source: Heartiste […]
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” I could help you escape from the bitch zone”
A bit harsh or butt hurt, I know I know…but doesnt she deserve a taste of her own medicine?
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The think “bitch” nowadays is mark of honor… if you want to shiv, use “cunt” instead. They hate that word, like negros hate n i g g e r.
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“Trying to help you out of the cunt zone”… There is a certain poetry there
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and whites hate the word racist.
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Only because it costs us money.
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Words blax hate the most is Colored and Boy.
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Other words Blaxs hate;
“No this is not free.”
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Do you harm, abuse and mistreat people on the basis of color?
ok fine,
what other criteria do you use to qualify people for abuse, harm and mistreatment?
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Never, ever refer to any blak as “thug.” It’s a compliment, like badass.
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Mr Blonde looks on as Greg Eliot sips his cricket soup.
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Ask that of your own kind. If whites were one-tenth as racist as you negroes, there wouldn’t be a black face on the entire North American continent… unless, of course, TCM was having an Al Jolson retrospective.
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Looks like you jumped the gun yet again, Sambo…
And for the record, it’s getting pretty tiresome berating you for your imaginary victories… do try to wait until one has actually been won, there’s a good chap.
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with a straw and a shaky hand
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along the lines of
“walking is good exercise but u dont get to use me as ur personal trainer”
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Friend zone? ….alright, I’m busted. Practicing text game on a nice personality girl (u!) for a sexy 9 I’m chasing….Ttyl
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A civilization which allows MattressGirl to have a seat of honor at a State of the Union speech, lacks the mechanisms and lacks the knowledge to truly shut down the Islamic State:
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jun/09/isis-slave-markets-sell-girls-for-as-little-as-a-pack-of-cigarettes-un-envoy-says
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He should never have taken the bait in the first place. Consider the conversation below:
“Hahaha that’s funny! XD I wasn’t even wearing makeup today”
“Well hey they have good taste at least. wink emoticon”
“Haha I know right smile emoticon”
“Yup! So hows your day goin beautiful ;p”
“It’s good, do you need me to walk you back?”
.
.
.
Aaanndd silence. Forget that he made the typical beta mistakes of indirectly complimenting her about the good taste “they” have with regard to her, asking how her day was going, AND calling her beautiful. When a girl asks a question, she pines for an answer, especially one of this nature. She wants him to answer, and spring the obvious trap, and it’s obvious that she wants him to do so. If he doesn’t answer, her hamster wheel starts to spin. As a result, the conversation could have continued something like this:
“Yup! So hows your day goin beautiful ;p”
“It’s good, do you need me to walk you back?”
…
[Five minutes or less]: “You didn’t answer my question… frown emoticon”
[Two or three hours later]: “8===>~~~” [or Birthday Cat]
[Immediately]: “What the heck is that?”
Commence normal game. The point is, she wants him to walk into the trap so badly that she’ll walk into one herself for the chance to spring it. All you have to do is set it and wait.
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Need some opinions guys:
I’ve just broken it off with a gf of 3 months. We were at a small gathering of friends of hers when she complains that I’m not paying her much attention (I’d been to my grandfathers’ funeral earlier in the day and was still a bit “off”). She’s quite needy but I didn’t think too much of it and she knew my reasons for acting this way.
I leave the room to get a drink and come back to find her sitting on a guy friend’s lap (obvious jealousy ploy). There and then I said bye to everyone and left, leading to her chasing me down the street, screaming and crying etc.
Did I overreact? It wasn’t so much feeling jealous rather than I couldn’t stay there when faced with such disrespect – honestly i couldn’t think of any alternative.
Thoughts would be appreciated
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Good move… make sure you follow it up with appropriately draconian tasks of contrition for her, if you would take her back.
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Keep this up and you will go far… slip up and you cut your balls off…
The key here you did was no – zero – drama… they can’t take the ice cold take away. [you monster!!!!]
Bonus points if you make her beg to take you back… then and only then pound the not out of her.
Bu that little bit will only make her love you forever so be careful.
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I couldn’t stay there when faced with such disrespect —— always trust your gut and this feeling. No matter what happens afterwards, you will be able to live with yourself at least.
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Greg Eliot and Sentient are right. i would have done the same.
no girl should act like that. especially knowing what family stuff you’re dealing with. she should be in nurturing caretaking mode right now but she’s not even considering your needs. she’s only thinking of herself.
it’s actually a good test of her character and she really showed her true colors here.
is this what she’s gonna be like anytime things are going rough for you? she can’t even put her own selfish needs aside while you’re dealing with a death in the family. not a good sign. she may have some other good qualities but she definitely failed this test.
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This, this, a thousand times this.
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Wtf 88? You mean some women don’t act like that? Seriously, i thought they were all that way when a guy was at his weakest moment.
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“no girl should act like that.”
But they all do right?
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Wth 88? Are not all women this selfish especially when a man is in a vulnerable position?
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They are when enabled , anonymous. You just watch that ‘selfless’ side appear when, say, there’s a complete oil exhaustion (peak oil) and bigD is the only guy in town who stocked up on bicycles. She won’t be sitting in laps willy nilly when things are more high stakes.
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@Anonymous
“Wth 88? Are not all women this selfish especially when a man is in a vulnerable position?”
no, all women do not act like this and if you find that most of the girls you encounter are behaving this way, you need to find a new fishing hole. and probably up your game so you can get better girls.
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Nailed it.
You just exhibited the kind of self-worth most people never realise.
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Good work.
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Why do you think you need our input? You won. You are the man. Bask in that shit. Henceforth you own that bitch. A little tug now & then will suffice to remind her.
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Cheers everyone.
I’m fairly inexperienced in relationships so was starting to doubt myself i.e: “Did my behaviour force her to act like this?”, “Was I too much of a jerk?”.
But things are clearer now, your replies have been helpful.
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You made the correct response. And I have been the sap who’s lap the gal sits upon to enrage her boyfriend.
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Good work.
Next her. She violated your integrity.
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i usually respond to such ploys with bemused contempt and/or indifference.
but u did just fine
use her as a slam piece and no more
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This is nuclear strike. I would DLV and reframe rejection by bringing up some cute GF, but in that case the blue balls are too obvious…so in that cass- just nuke it from the orbit.. remember Olga game?
“You want me to walk you back into friendzone?…”
– a: Ok, Shave your back and make me a sandwich first 😉
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i like your style. maybe no smiley or comma like
k shave your back and make me a sandwich first
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I would go with either
“oh yeah? well the jerk store called and they’re running out of YOU”
or maybe
“well i just had sex with your wife”
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Nuclear amplification is appropriate in this instance:
“luv chatting with girls who can call upon their inner cunt in an instant. ther always the ones that shudder violently when they cum. such a turn on”
Plant this acorn – the next time she shudders violently with her Hitachi wand – she’ll think of you.
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suuuuuper try hard
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Something about concision and wit
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My first thought upon reading this exchange was to never respond to her again. Pointing out her personality deficit is good as well. Possibly work in a location reference to the walk back:
Her: Back to that friend zone you tried to escape from. 🙂
Him: Cool, but we need to stop off somewhere first.
Her: Huh, where?
Him: Pound town.
Her: Huh, what’s that?
Him: Sorry, didn’t realize you were a virgin.
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love this – but would change the last to “and bring da movies”
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Right now I think is the best so far.
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Would just go straight to it. “Cool, but only if we stop at pound town on the way back”.
The setup would likely get nuked because its an obvious mirror and she wouldn’t want to lose hand so easily to her same device while already in jousting mode.
If the “huh whats that” or feigned stupidity comes up, you go with “I heard you were the mayor though”, “I thought you lived there anyway”, etc
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“I thought you lived there anyway” is nice. Implies you are only around cause you heard she’s a slut.
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“Sure, you can ‘try’, I love to see bitches fail ;)”
Possibly without the emoji cause she is such a huge cunt for even saying it. If you cut her open you’d find maggots inside.
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Her “I wasn’t even wearing makeup today.”
Him “that’s what I have to wake up to?” Shivers
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“I’m gay.”
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I would have say: oh i don’t really have friends neither, so i am progressing 🙂 next step is girlfriend material.
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Please tell me! how solid is my game? i am from Mexico and this summer vacations i will go to Texas and i wanna game hot American girls :3
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Her: “Back to the friend zone that you just tried to escape from.”
Me: “I didn’t know that nuns had friend zones.”
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Maybe slash her tires
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Maybe shash her tires.
Har!
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My suggest:
(she says something about no makeup and some other stuff, who cares)
“You wear makeup?”
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Not that “You wear makeup?” is gonna get the poor schlep closer to snatch (although the probably is ever so slightly higher than zero), but it helps build the `tude , build the mindset.
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“back to the friend zone you just tried to escape from”
“nah, I wouldnt want you to trip over your own cunt”
or
“whats that supposed to mean”
or
“say that to my face”
but since this guy is obv a beta he should take this screenshot, edit out her info or not, and say, “I guess you cant be nice to people anymore” and post that on facebook. Thats probably the best beta move.
Another power move that has gotten me 2 lays lately is to text them “stop bothering me” when the cuntery arises. Its switch flipping.
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Trip idea wasn’t bad, cunt is butthext neg though.
“I don’t know, think we’d trip all over your ego on the way back”
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My original comment is stuck in moderation, but to sum up, this guy could have saved this despite making three typical beta mistakes… but then he went and made the fourth and worst mistake of walking into the obvious trap. His last message and dumb as bricks question, “Walk me back?” showed too much confusion. Confusion is almost the opposite of confidence, and as we all know, confidence to the brim is what brings in the babes. Up until that point, although beta, he still projected a measure of confidence, which could be the only reason why she was willing to talk to him for so long in the first place.
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Ahh, misunderstood the post. Despite our poor schlep being nearly as beta as he can, the target presents that the contest still remains.
“You’ll need lots of makeup to play those games.”
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Shout out to the CH twitter feed… great look at Tom Wolfe… one of the best red pill aware authors for nearly 40 years now… His Back to Blood is a atory told around one 9’s hypergamy… and excerpt from the paper
“By the time we readers first see them together, muscle-bound Nestor is all lovey-dovey mush. Magdalena is repulsed.
So she dumps him for Dr. Norman Lewis—with whom, incidentally, she’s already spending the night. Norman is much older than Nestor and a decidedly inferior physical specimen. But he’s an americano with blue eyes and wavy light brown hair, plus a high-priced condo, a speedboat, and a national reputation, all of which confer a certain status—on her. “You want everybody to know that Dr. Norman Lewis is your boyfriend! Admit it!” Magdalena harangues herself. “[Y]ou want his picture all over the page by the time the 60 Minutes thing…is on. Right? You want them to know you possess that gorgeous blond, blue-eyed americano, that glamorous, famous Older Man!”
Russian oligarch Sergei Korolyov combines Nestor’s physique with levels of money, power, and fame that Norman can’t touch. Magdalena dives into Sergei’s bed after only their third meeting, and first real date—alacrity she is able to rationalize as “the modern sequence of love.” But she is scarcely afforded 30 minutes to revel in this fairy tale before it collapses into a putrid pumpkin. In the most humiliating fashion, Magdalena is smacked with the realization that she is but one in an endless series—“pumped and dumped,” as the pick-up artists say—an outcome any fool could and should have seen coming a light year away. But the lure of muscles, money, and a foreign accent….
When allure gives way to danger, the primal instinct to seek protection resurges and the formerly unexciting suddenly appears in a different light. Magdalena, fearing that Sergei might be involved in a crime, seeks the comfort of Nestor’s arms. “It was like he was being all manly and taking charge,” she gushes to a girlfriend later, “like he knew something about it and knew what to do. He was kind of…I don’t know…hot.” –
See more at: http://www.claremont.org/article/a-woman-in-full/#.VXeJQM_BzRY
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Just give up. Never see or communicate with her again. Save some shreds of self-respect.
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I see the point, but somehow just going into radio silence seems like she truly wounded you (you kids say “butthurt”).
Some sort of Last Word seems mandated before the Big Walk.
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I see the point, but somehow just going into radio silence seems like she truly wounded you (you kids say “butthurt”).
Not as much as many of the proposed replies.
But if you have to say something, I’d propose “nah”.
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“Only if we can stop in the With Privileges zone on the way.”
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The Friend zone? Sure! Please walk me back! I live on With Benefits avenue.
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Too meaty & needy, drop it down to “Yeah sure, I live on With Benefits Avenue”
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Can we stop off at grandmas along the way
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Lolzolz
this one is good too
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😖
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Her “I wasn’t even wearing makeup today.”
Him: That’s a good start. I hate makeup.
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“That’s fucked up. I’ve always been friends with my lovers.”
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Well, no one has said it but I would go with “we’re friends?” as the best response here.
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No. this is too cute. The only way to respond is to say: “I’m a man. I see you as a woman”. This is crucial to reclaiming your balls should you find yourself in this situation.
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A bit melodramatic, and would probably have her rolling her eyes and lol’ling her next text.
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If you must reply beyond a word or two, I would just say something like:
“Baby, I’ve got two friends… pain and a dollar bill.”
And then radio silence.
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no offense walawala but that line just doesn’t sit right with me. doesn’t seem like a reclaiming of balls at all.
in this situation i think it would actually make the situation worse. saying you see her as a woman like that just comes across as you desiring her. not exactly the move i’d make after getting royally dissed by a girl.
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Greg Eliot, who doesn’t text and doesn’t date, is telling us how to do both.
Old man, take a look at your life.
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Look, asshole, this stalking act of yours is embarrassing you, but you’re too clueless to notice.
Also, this “old man” shtick of yours isn’t working. At least come up with something funny in a new act… and then take it on the road.
You fairy.
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Sprite Within and Greg are still engaging in their homo mating dance I see.
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Et tu, Hymen?
This Strapon can’t get me out of his head, and when I backhand him into his place, this makes ME a target for your queer projection snark?
You fairy.
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“Sprite Within and Greg are still engaging in their homo mating dance I see.”
LMAO!!!
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Thank you… if I do say so myself.
In my mind, it puts her in a defensive posture as either having been presumptuous or needing to justify her thought of their “friendship”.
Granted, the next move would have to be radio silence.
Granted, too, it would work better face-to-face, where the arch of an eyebrow and a sardonic look would get the point across much better…
… which is why Machete don’t text.
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Thank you.
In my mind, it puts her on the defensive as either having been presumptuous or justifying herself in re her assumption of “friendship”.
Granted, radio silence would have to follow.
Granted, too, it would be more effective in person, where the arch of an eyebrow and a sardonic look and tone would articulate the response much better than mere text.
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And of course, the brevity is key.
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levity might be too-a family friend or colleague who he can’t just make into an enemy on the spot, and whomight show the response to the circle of friends, better to make a non-butthurt joke and bare the fangs minimally. Act as if nothing has happened henceforth
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dial up your jerkboy to 11, and tempt a fate that, either way, will be a blessing for you.
Too true… Simple, direct, to the point. Words to live by. I’ve been being the Jerkboy since I was too young to drive and it’s never been the wrong move. Sure it’s gotten me into more than one scrape – but its gotten me more good things that playing by the rules ever got all of the white-knights out there.
And I don’t need lovers who are friends – I have enough friends, and I never bend a friend over and bang her till she screams – that is reserved for lovers. Wanna guess which women want to be? Definitely not my friend…
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That might be one of the few times when a dick pic is appropriate
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A few times I’ve received these kind of “friendzone” texts. I got one from the 29 year old I had been gaming. She wrote something along the lines of “you’re a good friend…” or “it’s nice to meet such an interesting new friend” some such.
I replied with: “I see you as a woman not a friend.” This works far better than the cutesy texts. It’s a either an insult or a major shit test. In my experience playing it off with “are we friends?” or something witty only plays into her frame.
I’ve used this “I’m a man and I see you as a woman not a friend” several times. It weeds out the timewasters quickly and shows you get it.
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“We’re friends?” is not “Are we friends?”
This is the problem with texting… no ability to convey tone.
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“I see you as a woman not a friend.”
Pretty good straight answer.
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I’ve started to fine tune my game. The cocky funny stuff works great at hooking them. But if they see you as a clown—ie: “friend”… you have to set some boundaries. A text like “I see you as a woman not a friend” which I scalped from Krauser and have used multiple times…makes it clear that this is sexual. If she doesn’t like it ok. In this situation above it may already be a lost cause in which case it’s a chance to be firm, grab you dick and balls and go home.
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My spidey senses tell me it’s a good reply, but it will lead to the ol’ “can’t men and women be friends?” nonsense that the gals lurv to babble on about.
Still, it keeps the door open as an opportunity to sway her attitude towards you, if the subsequent convo is played correctly.
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it will lead to the ol’ “can’t men and women be friends?” nonsense
Hold your frame. You could answer “you know what I mean”. Or “ok, gotta go”. Or nothing at all. Let it sink in, resume later.
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“Get on all fours and let me ride you all the way back.
I was only visiting for a day trip anyways.”
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“get on all fours and i’ll ride you back”
crude and effective
yeeeeee haaaaaaw
i like this one
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Probably the winner here, gets immediately sexual with no asspain and high comedic value.
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Variation on the theme, and an old joke:
“Walk back? Hell, bend over and I’ll drive ya!” lzlzozlzozlozlzolzolzolozlozl
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oh man
thats even better
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“no mo roofies 4 u”
“What????”
“next time hard…”
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Reblogged this on XWorkx.
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Why would any man, beta or otherwise want to be friends with such a cunt?
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my thoughts exactly
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As others have pointed out, this “walk you back to the friend zone” meme seems to be making the rounds, and most gals think they’re witty and don’t necessarily mean to be cunty, they’re just following the herd and trying to get a rise out of a guy because it amuses their hamster.
I had a normally sweet girl back in the day keep breaking my shoes about silly things because she thought she was being funny. I brushed it off for the most part but she kept trying to get a rise (no pun intended).
It wasn’t until I went into radio silence that she finally “got it” that women aren’t truly funny… and thereafter remained her dutiful and sweet self.
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Yup. Female humor completely sucks.
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Yes, walk me back please so I can smash you in that friend zone
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At least this guy is having a conversation with a girl.
95% of the numbers I get go radio silent pretty quickly and I am left typing
“please respond?
please respond?
please respond?”
into the darkness.
I think maybe its because I push for logistical details too early
“What are you doing tomorrow? What is your home address?”
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Sex doesn’t happen to real persons. It only exists in Hollywood.
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Droll. Now, shall I walk you back…. to the Troll Zone?
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Let me grab your leash and collar. Or
If you want to exit. Friend zone…uh could you put some makeup on first; my friends might see us there.
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“Let me grab your leash and collar.”
Nicely played, bitch neg+soft BDSM overtures while still keeping it jesting
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Even though my original answer was the crotch bulge comment, I’ve since thought of a twist of the shiv reply for the ages “sure, walk me back. You could use the exercise!”
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Perfect. My vote goes for this one.
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After his previous comments, this may come off as butthurt.
How about, “sure, walk me back. the walk will do you some good”.
slightly more subtle.
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Still sounds butthurt after he had recently been gushing over Ms. ‘Beautiful’.
Maybe something like, “Yeah… It’ll give our legs some exercise and your jaw a rest.”
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Through text, you’re right. That line’s best delivered with an air of amused mastery and a devilish smirk, followed by a gentle poke of the girl’s belly
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She finish sentence with preposition “from”.
Not do that make me mad!
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If that walk involves me placing my hand on your cheek (not the face one)…
Sure.
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We have to assume that his behavior have been Beta all the time.
The boy is lost to this Emilly character as of now.
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“Walk me back?”
“Back to that friend zone…”
Not until you wax it, darlin’
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As I mentioned before, I’m the one who urged Radio Silence, but if you think that’s too butthurt and you think saying something is needed, I’d try good old “nah”.
https://heartiste.files.wordpress.com/2012/10/photo_15.png?w=350&h=525
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OT
http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2015/06/08/the-full-story-of-the-mckinney-texas-pool-mob-inside-the-craig-ranch-subdivision/
The cluster&!$*k comes into play here when a non-resident, Tatiana Rhodes (further referred to as “Princess Dindu Nuffins”) and her mother decided to organize and promote an event w/DJ and pool party at the park area of Craig Ranch Subdivision, in McKinney, TX. Neither Princess Dindu Nuffins and mother Dindu Nuffins obtained permission, nor paid to rent the facility for their party that was promoted on Twitter which obviously would solicit participation from the free-shit army…Princess Dindu Nuffins claims a promotion business and apparently this event was her baby and it provided her another avenue to promote another event that would sell tickets in advance of said event. What better way to keep overhead on the cheap by taking over a privately controlled neighborhood park without residents nor neighborhood security being aware of until the free shit army arrived in car-loads to take over, climbing fences and generally bullying their way into the scene in total defiance of residents questioning what was happening in their own community.
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The lords of lies are reaching harder in every direction.
Dindu nuffin…
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9 times out of 10 in the end we find out it was the black person who did something wrong and is to blame.
but by then the left stream media with its lies and manipulations has already convinced millions of people blacks are victims of racism again and of police brutality again…
wasn’t it Mark Twain who said it is easier to fool people than to convince them they have been fooled?
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If this is true…this a woman who is way to forward about her wiles. She’ll end up alone.
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This is stone, cold, dead. ‘Next’ her immediately. Radio silence.
Any “witty” comeback you send, will be used to justify her caustic dismissal, rendering her guilt free.
Silence will employ her own self-doubt against her.
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OT – SJW meltdown alert
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3117648/Ban-women-male-labs-distracting-cry-criticised-says-Nobel-prize-winner-Sir-Tim-Hunt.html
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Let us hope he doesn’t back down. If the Nobel prize were a small statue of Nobel himself, Hunt could take it to the press conference, hold it up, and say something like:
“Well, I, and Alfred here, say that my personal opinions are just ducky.”
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“Nah, that won’t be necessary. You suck at keeping people in there anyway”
Then radio silence
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friendship is boring
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Question for you guys. What if you have daughters who have attitudes like their mother? How do you handle it because they seem to team up. Just eye rolling, smart ass remarks, deep sighs, entitled, etc…
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Spare the rod, spoil the child. BUT with great power comes great responsibility
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what color are they?
Do they do that sassy blk gurl neck swerve thing?
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You evenly and without drama grind them like grist in the mill each time for their transgressions, then move on like nothing ever happened. Rinse and repeat. Just like training a dog. sometimes this involves just a simple A&A, sometimes calling them out on their tone, sometimes sanctions and take aways, sometimes having them clean up whatever mess they got into by themselves. Just never give in and be consistent. Just like training a dog.
I have 4 daughters and a wife… trust me, they will only team up for a little while then be back at each others throats…
Now my wife, she tries to either over punish them, over friend them or goes back on either and they are furious. Me they respect and love, even though I never ever save them from their stupidity and enforce what needs to be enforced. Makes my wife crazy. LOL
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Reinforces what I’ve always thought:
A mothers main role is to provide comfort. Let’s say the father has a stressful day at work, and takes it out on one of the kids… with the mother around, the kid goes crying to the mom:
“dad was mean to me… he yelled at me, he doesn’t like me!”
“there there, your father just had a long day at work. You know he still loves/cares about you, he just needs to relax for a bit”
A fathers main role is to instill confidence. Say you have a child standing pool-side, seemingly ready to jump in… but they just can’t seem to muster that last bit of will power. A mother, providing comfort, might say something like “okay.. if you really don’t want to jump in, you don’t have to! You can try again later sweetie”. That is until the father walks over, picks the kid up and just throws him in.
Sure the child might struggle for a second or two… the mother might look at the father and say “now honey was that REALLY NECCESSARY?” but the child soon discovers “hey, the water aint so bad”. Going forward, the child learns that sometimes, you just gotta throw caution to the wind and take a risk.
Balance in all things.
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Some of you men need to find yourself a good Christian women as they will treat you better than the secular sluts who lie.
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Oh please… there are only women. They are all women.
Now go troll elsewhere…
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Well…he is not entirely wrong.
I am not a religious man at all and I could never be with a woman who talks about God all the time and wants me to pray with her, attend church every Sunday etc but Christian women are often a notch above the rest in many ways.
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when a guy seeks to control hypergamy via outside forces (Church, gubmint, family, friends) he is doomed. Because ALL women are hypergamous.
Churches are filled with women playing around, butcept they are then forgiven…
Be the prize and make her hypergamy work for you instead of getting lazy and hoping some rule or perhaps shame will control her…
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i agree with some of you. without a doubt conservative girls, religious girls, girls from good families, etc. are usually going to be better choices if you’re looking for quality. no doubt about that. it’s like trying build on concrete versus sand. better to start with a solid foundation and build from there than to start with an unstable foundation and constantly struggle to make it work.
but Sentient does have a good point. hypergamy does always exist. even with the good girls.
you can never assume that you won’t have to put in the work. same goes for all these guys thinking if they just get a virgin and keep her knocked up and taking care of kids, they won’t have anything to worry about. absolutely not true.
the wildest girls i’ve ever known were the ones who settled down with a man early, had kids early, and then started thinking they’d settled down too young and were missing out on a bunch of fun.
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Indeed, but selectivity and character judgment isn’t really the strong suit of spergy manlets.
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good point
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http://www.bustle.com/articles/78335-should-i-get-a-prenup-why-you-should-have-the-awkward-conversation-with-your-partner-before?utm_source=fbpro&utm_medium=Facebook&utm_campaign=fbpros&sr_source=lift_facebook
Women are driving the increase in prenups…LOL
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Just wanted to add this to the “chicks dig jerks” evidence pile. Quite the story. A girl I know recently broke up with her boyfriend and moved out of the place they were sharing because he disliked her dog. He broke her dog’s leg on purpose. I repeat, PURPOSELY BROKE HER DOG’S LEG. She moves out on him and goes back to her apartment which she still had. She proceeds to go on rants about the incident, gets sloppily drunk at a large group gathering, and gets her old boyfriend (the one before the dog leg breaker) to drive over an hour to pick her up. She gets back with the the old bf and he moves into her apartment with her. Flash forward about a week and she is posting beach selfies with the dog leg breaker. Apparently she also moved out of her apartment to move back in with him, straight up just leaving the old bf there by himself. LOL
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thats fukced up.
that dude should be set on fire.
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“Set on fire”
Are you on medication?
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Meh… maybe he’s Buddhist
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if I catch you breaking a dogs leg you better be eating it.
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“if I catch you breaking a dogs leg you better be eating it.”
Word up muh nigga! Respect.
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You talk tough behind that screen. If I ever met up with you face to face your sorry racist ass would be grass. Where do you live?
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Outraged over a fuck’n dog but not blinking an eye for all those humans both black and white that blacks are beating up, torturing, raping and murdering everyday.
Anyone surprised?
… maybe the dog was white? thus he deserved it?
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Where do you live?
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evidently in your fukcing skull bitch
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Hey, t-h-w-a-c-k… maybe it was a drug deal gone wrong., amirite. :duckface
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All four of them should be ovened, including the dog.
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This guy MV?ER is excelling with photographic satire
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nice. it’s been said here before women = dogs.
both yearn to be beaten in training by their master. they require it to be happy. a dog checks it’s master’s mood every ten seconds to be sure it’s behaving correctly. a dog without expectations and knowledge of certain punishment for deviation is a miserable dog.
if you do not train your dog (woman) with physical force it will be a menace to your house and the world at large and you are negligent in your responsibilities as a man and master.
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Yes because we all know how well behaved and full of sanity a physically abused dog is.
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A dog doesn’t require beating… merely a calm, assertive demeanor that enforces boundaries and limitations.
Now a woman, well…
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Seek help. Also, stop watching porn.
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Fortunately, the only force a decent woman requires is a slap on the ass from time to time.
Force of the slap to vary with the occasion.
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http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/society/woman-thinks-man-is-her-friend-2015060899024
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^ ” u aint gonna need ur feet 4 that ride”
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there is absolutely no reason to communicate with a girl unless you are banging her or getting some material need met by her and as grown men we can all meet our own material needs so the only reason to communicate with a girl is if you are banging her.
for us, communication doesn’t lead to banging. banging leads to communication. don’t give her the emotional support until she spreads on command. no exceptions. despite what they say this is the only way they will respect us as men and this is the only way we can respect ourselves.
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Do all women lie?
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of course. never trust a woman who doesn’t lie and keep secrets. it’s the nature of her lies and secrets that matter. little white lies are necessary for their psyches.
there is beauty in their paradox. a man who can act from an even more self-serving place than woman will induce endless tingles and puddles
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What if you are married and you start going Alpha then your wife tries to get the kids and extended family to side with her versus you game?
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What about Christian women?
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Very interesting. Do all women like to attack when you are at your weakest?
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Last Saturday I got a true peek into a woman’s mind and it was not a pleasant place to be. I got a response to my OKC profile from a 28 year old insurance agent, she looked ok. I opened her, standard text game, she starts asking me my age. I lie by 10 years saying I’m 39…because frankly age doesn’t matter in real life, only in a woman’s mind. She says “I don’t mind an old man if he’s still horny”. From there I knew it was on. I set up a coffee date. She said she had a bf and he’d gone away for the weekend without her so she wanted to get back at him. The irony here was she was very concerned that I wasn’t married because she didn’t want to be with someone who was married, then again rationalized cuckholding her bf who was much younger than me and from the photos she shared of the two of them looked a bit like Cajun.
So after some back and forth we meet up. She’s a 6…glasses, crap clothes. But when I get her home and she takes off her glasses and I get her clothes off she is smoking…a 7. She was so into cheating on this guy. Her pussy…was shivering….it was literally vibrating. She was shaved clean. She blew me and I banged her twice. Then I told her she better get going. She kept telling me “Oh my bf just texted, he now wants to meet me for dinner. He’ll just want to fuck me…” I could barely contain my laughter. She said this would be our secret. I got her to delete all my texts and told her not to text me.
She texted me…of course to tell me she had told her bf she had met me…”and another friend…but we didn’t fuck”. The girl loves drama….the crazy ones do. I never replied and won’t.
What was interesting was she was upset because the guy went away for the weekend and then set up a rendezvous with a stranger. Then she was kind of blowing him off when he was trying to set up a meet saying “Let me see”.
If you ever get one of these texts from a girl..she’s probably banging a dude.
The way she rationalized this was priceless.
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Just curious Walwala,
I want to give credit where credit is due and since you are in my age category am just curious about these women you meet.
1. Do you meet most of your women online?
2. Do you use protection with these women?
3. If you have a rotation already why take on new women like this?
4. Did this 7 have an orgasm?
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The correct response would have been to pop a few dozen iodine tablets. That dirty nuke had some major fallout. Although, he could have sent her a yt of Bizmarkee
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Someone please tell me he reacted properly to that. Even if it’s just some insults that make him come off as butthurt, just don’t tell me he’s actually taking this bullshit and sticking around. Game or no game have some fucking pride god damn it all.
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I remember one cute girl I knew teasing me, “You’ve got a crush on me.” My response was, “I would be crazy if I didnt.” That line worked wonders.
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“Someone is unusually full of shit today”
Simultaneously shows you’re not buying her act/she’s outta line… all while coming from a position of authority instead of butt-hurtness.
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I’m not sure what the “best” reply at this point would be, but my question is why bother? Certain people here, CH included, seem to think that the friend zone could be escaped if this dude exercised game in just the right way. And they might well be right. But unless the girl in question regularly gets jealous stares from Victoria’s Secret supermodels, I would again ask why bother? The amount of effort that would be required to potentially overcome a long history of beta orbiter behavior with this girl has got to be way beyond the effort that would be required to game a new girl.
I may be a beta to the max, but even I am starting to figure this one out. I wrote a few weeks ago about a girl I’ve been beta orbiting for years. Afterwards I decided to take ONE TRY at pushing for something more. So I sent her a text simply stating “May X, Bar ABC, 9:00.” After a long awkward time she sent a text telling me how much she’d love to but that she has some really time-demanding home projects going on right now so it’s just not a good time. But that she hopes she’ll get to run into me soon. Followed by a “goodnight” with a kissy face emoticon. I about crapped myself laughing. Home projects??? That’s a new one! Anyway, I haven’t communicated with her at all since then, because I just can’t see the point. The potential return on investment from trying to game her has got to be waaaaaayyyyy lower than the potential ROI from walking into a Starbucks or a bar on any given night (or a church on Sunday morning) and trying with someone new.
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“The potential return on investment from trying to game her …”
You are gaming her though… you escalated, issued a command (compliance test), she demurred and you went no contact. Straight up game. Not all of game is realizing immediate rewards. It’s a process.
As to this “why bother?” well seduction should be fun and amusing for you. If the OP took this approach, he wouldn’t be digging out of the hole he found himself [not] in… Be charming, be fun, tease, provoke, don’ take things seriously and all will be well. You wont win them all but you will still enjoy the game.
That’s why all the butt hurt responses are so funny, guys have it ass backwards most of the time…
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The key defining trait of beta behavior is ANGER… Anger is not sexy to women… (except in rare flashes)…
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I wrote a few weeks ago about a girl I’ve been beta orbiting for years. Afterwards I decided to take ONE TRY at pushing for something more. So I sent her a text simply stating “May X, Bar ABC, 9:00.” After a long awkward time she sent a text telling me how much she’d love to but that she has some really time-demanding home projects going on right now so it’s just not a good time. But that she hopes she’ll get to run into me soon. Followed by a “goodnight” with a kissy face emoticon. I about crapped myself laughing. Home projects??? That’s a new one! Anyway, I haven’t communicated with her at all since then, because I just can’t see the point.
Hahahaha. Good job.
I’d say observe how she reacts to you when she sees you again in the flesh, but be aloof yourself, as if you’re preoccupied about other things.
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“sorry babe back to the gym”
“nah”
“eh”
“shouldn’t try so hard”
“try again”
“let’s get you gym membership on the way”
“ur 35 right?”
“uve been single for a little too long”
Context is everything. This is is a tought jam. It’d be hard to pull outa this one.
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“nah” … probably the best option if you’re going to say something.
“eh” … makes you look confused, perhaps “heh” would be better.
“try again” … not bad either.
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“Girlfriend of alpha boyfriend defends his patriarchal privilege. Beta white knight cries tears of wowjustwowness.”
The girl’s public shiv cuts deep: “there us no need for your comments goodbye now. [wavey hand]”
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And most likely she didn’t tell him to put “I Own” as the caption; rather, he declared it would be the caption and she approved of it.
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OT: lurked here for years, posted a few situations and have received good feed back, here we go again…
This wkend I looked like a dirty hillbilly after working in the woods all day and this pretty little thing working the deli opens me up while my sandwhich is n the oven. I look up and she’s all smiles, laser eyes me and asks, “Hows was your day? You look like you came from a warzone!” I stumble a bit but just blurt out what came to mind. “Just got back from my jihad in Iraq, long drive” she laughed ,but looking back, that seems pretty stupid…lol, better than locking up .
After that she just continues asking me all kinds of questions, not much time to tease her about anything, had to eject due to the line behind me growing, fumbled… did not get a # or name. I know this was an opportunity missed. I guess what im looking for now is some advice on how to pull this one smoothly.
TLDR: sandwhich hottie opens and proceeds to question me while I’m looking and feeling like hammered shit. distance, and a growing line prevents much from occurring. How do I convert this one without looking like a stalker ? Anyone picked up a food service hottie right at her job?
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Both of these have worked for me with waitresses.
When she hands you the receipt, you can do one of two things – put your # on it, slide it back to her and just say “good talk – hit me up after you get off and we’ll pick our conversation back up.” Or when she hands you the receipt tell her she forgot to put something on it. She’ll likely pick up that you’re asking for her number. It’s simple and straightforward. You’re just keeping the flow of the conversation going and this is the natural point you’ve reached in it. You might catch her off guard just a bit, but if she’s vibing you (which she clearly is) then the element of surprise will be a warm tingle, not a creepy question.
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Anyone picked up a food service hottie right at her job?
Sure, just give her your phone and tell her to put her number in it.
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Thanks fellas, exactly what I was looking for. Will give it another shot this weekend if she’s working and report back.
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The key defining trait of beta behavior is ANGER… Anger is not sexy to women… (except in rare flashes)…
Impotent rage, that is. It may have more to do with impotence…
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Yes anger is helplessness and confusion.
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yep.
people get confused about this. they think all shows of anger are good and represent a display of manly power but that is rarely the case. most women just see it as you losing your cool and they lose respect for you.
they might be scared shi*less and behave differently in the short term but the loss of respect is something you’ll have a hard time recovering from down the road.
you cannot force someone to respect you. respect must be earned. and the fastest way to lose respect from your woman is to let her see you lose control of yourself.
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“Lay back in the cut retain myself” Snoop Dogg
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SheKnows, a cunty feminist site, sat down a bunch of 9 to 11 year-olds and asked them about Bruce Jenner turning himself into a woman.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3117694/Tweens-applaud-Caitlyn-Jenner-s-transition-new-video.html
Let’s get this straight – young children were allowed to be exposed to this bs experiment by their parents, the children were both genders and all races (including some halflings), and all of them answered positively in favor of Brucey’s self mutilation. I understand this is a controlled piece of propaganda, but it’s yet another sign of The Decline. Enjoy it.
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“Dad,
that’s racist
…
and true.”
They’ll be OK.
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Which of your holes is the friendzone.
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Dunno. Not a text game dude.
My immediate response if this was in real life and not text would have been “Oh, you have friends?” but that’s probably better in real life when you can deliver it with a wry grin, over text it just sounds snarky.
Hard to noodle this one, the dude was already basically dead in the water through his own inept weakness. Any kind of snappy come back, I’d figure, would be seen as weak or brushed away as “creepy”. But hey, let me try to come up with some responses.
“She swings, she misses! Strike one'”
“I like pie”
“Well, guess I better saddle you up for the ride then”
“Funny you call yours that, I call mine Enormo McGiantcock.”
“And..a miss. B7?” (ok, might not work on a chick who has never heard of Battleship)
Eh, kinda hard to wiggle out of this one. I think cornivus was right, a “nah” or “heh” probably suffices. And again, I’m not a text dude. It’s hard to deliver with through cold letters on a screen sometimes.
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Chateau proprietors, can we get more posts like these?
Save the political discourse and dindus for Goodbye, America.
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Her punch-line is an empty phrase, akin to “I’ll tear you apart!” uttered by a limp-wristed wretch who could not tear a paper bag apart if his life depended on it. Dare her to do it and then observe how she struggles to drag you where you can be only if you willingly cooperate with nothing but words:
“Please do. I haven’t had a good laugh today.”
Or, if you are a bit spergy and willing to give a futile exercise in logic, you can try:
“Walk me BACK? Have I escaped already? ’Twas easy!”
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“lol…ok, ok, i’ll let you suck the tip, but NOT the whole cock”
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“Na I like younger girls”
Might as well nuke her
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“Someone is unusually full of shit today”.
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Fake.
Apparently bullshit detectors are so twentieth century.
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could reply to her
“maybe, after you suck me off”
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“No, women are terrible at directions.”
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Best thing to do is go radio silence on her and when she soon initiates act normal. Other responses are good too but it has to be true to your personality.
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honestly. i don’t believe he is past the point of no return, all he needs is to stop acting like a beta fuck up. Any of the above responsess are acceptable( i much rathe prefer radio silence though ) so long as he maintains an alpha attitude towards her. it might not have an immediate impact but it will most certainly work in his favor.
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Not sure this guy is as DOA as most here assume. I mean, it’s not pretty… But, this has the faint whiff of a shit-test. Most girls who are content to have a guy in the friend zone would just ignore the lad, not send a flirtatious reply.
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all the ones I’ve heard seem too defensive or artificially slick to recover from a complete blowout – you aren’t losing the game son, the game was over last night and you’re just waking up from the coma.
So naturally my first thought was cut it loose. This one is too fargone and and recourse would simply be for naught.
That said, if I had to say something, it would be this:
“I’ve seen you in heels so I’ll save you the embarrassment”
Which is scorned but if you put a smiley face after…. Who knows these days
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Nah there have been 5-10 really good comebacks on this page, including yours
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Also, second thought
Don’t follow the frame, that’s why this trap is designated for betas
Do you need me to walk you….
– walk? where? tf? (*target locked* *boom*)
Instead :
– Do You need me to walk you…
– Nah, go make me a massage and then sandwich
( reframe – and chick just can’t unleash the scripted joke)
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