They weren’t born that way, they were made that way, by repeated failure with women in the sexual marketplace. Their romantic failure is a consequence of their inexperience, lack of game, and their poor understanding of female sexual nature, each reinforcing the other in a feedback loop of infinite incel, until marriage at 33 to a dumpy hausfrau (and they are legion).
But there’s another, even crueler and more invidious, reason why beta males become bitter about women:
Women treat beta males worse for no reason other than that they aren’t alpha males!
As we learned from yesterday’s post, a study has found that women who are rejected by an alpha male experience a surge of bitterness and bad feelings that they then dump onto any beta males unlucky enough to be next in line for the faire maidens’ hands.
Now, a question for the tough guys who like to dump on the bitterbetaboys (and CH stands accused along with the sadistic rabble): If women are autonomically treating beta men like shit, through NO FAULT of the beta males’ own, might it stand to reason that a legitimate explanation for beta male bitterness and romantic failure is their parallel sexual market reality in which they have to deal with cranky, bitchy, demeaning women who are pissed off that they didn’t get the alpha male of their dreams? Just sayin’.
So are we going to be allowed to start talking about the m0rality of pump-n-dump, and the spectre of leaving myriad Alpha Widows in your wake, and what this behavior does to society at large and to the WHITE RACE in general? Maybe there’s a reason that r-selected negresses are so dadgum bitter and hateful and generally have the attitudes of wolverines or hyenas.
[CH: there are 300+ million “americans”. there were 150 million when white americans put white americans on the moon. the solution isn’t MOAR WHYTE BABEEZ. the solution is deportation of invading migrants and sealing the border for at least a generation.]
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Let’s first talk about how many WHITE BABIEZ you have fathered… then sure let’s pick up your discussion.
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Let’s first talk about how many Moon rocks and Tour De France trophies you have collected; then sure let’s pick up your discussion.
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Yeah – definitely phoning it in today James. Knock off, get some r & r. Come back fresh.
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I got 2. I have young women around who want more. I’ve been a target for sperm hunters looking for apex DNA for most of my life.
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the solution isn’t MOAR WHYTE BABEEZ. the solution is deportation of invading migrants and sealing the border for at least a generation.]
Gotta disagree with you CH. While immigration restrictions are obviously needed, they aren’t likely to be enacted in any case due to the surfeit of leftoids in Western countries.
Meanwhile, nature abhors a vacuum. There were what, 2 billion nonwhites on the earth in the 1960s vs. 5 billion now. And, 1 billion sub-Saharan Africans now vs. a projected 4 billion in 2100.
Moar Whyte Babeez isn’t ideal, but it is an essential stopgap for us to survive in an era of nonwhites in general, then Africans in particular, flooding the world.
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immigration restrictions are obviously needed, they aren’t likely to be enacted in any case due to the surfeit of leftoids in Western countries.
Mass deportations and immigration restrictions will be imposed once Provisional Government of National Restoration (PGNR) assumes power. Plans are being discussed as we write.
As for superfluous population groups in the third world, these eventually will be eradicated, either through conventional warfare methods or genetically-engineered bio-weapons. They will of course blame it on natural pathogens.
Tomorrow belongs to us.
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Besides, his solution presupposes far more willpower than white people are capable of. They won’t even have moar whyte babeez, so how they gonna deport millions of Aztecas? Remember there are over 55,000,000 Hispanics total, of which over 60% are Mexican/Central American.
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through NO FAULT of the beta males’ own
But is it really not their fault? I’m not convinced.
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Plenty of white people on the earth now. Quality beats quantity.
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Not amongst children. White children are no longer even a majority in the USA. And white children haven’t been a majority in California in 15 years or more.
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Would be great if there weren’t billions more of everyone else, hoss.
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uh == eskimo. Zyklon B FTW.
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My bad. Maybe. Re-read it, and if I now understand it correctly, then no == eskimo.
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All I know is my neighbors white wife and daughter like to sun bath by their pool when I come home and they are both boats of lards. I’m screaming quality local on this one.
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Uh, that’s what nukes are for brother.
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No need for nukes. Just stop feeding them.
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Also subsidize abortion so easy now that we have Obamacare. Blacks abort at high rates.
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This is true – women HATE weakness… even in their sons.
Beta behaviors are weak:
Supplicating – weak
Sensitive – weak
Indecisive – weak
Complaining without doing – weak
not trying – weak
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“women HATE weakness… even in their sons.”
+1 for truth triggering in yours truly.
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Yes, this.
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Women spend more energy on the things they hate – than the things they love.
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Betas are bitter because their co-dependency, people-pleasing nature prompts them to be Blue Pill and believe in unicorns, hard work gets you success and all that stuff….When they see some Alpha swoop in and get girls chasing them with seemingly little effort it breeds resentment about “When’s it going to be my ‘turn'”.
This mindset is what gets them success in their work-life but women aren’t hard-wired to see the hard-worker as attractive…he comes off as being a burden to them…the minute a guy has needs of any kind it becomes a turn off unless the woman is already attracted and the “needs” are a way of keeping you aloof—a fear of getting involved for example. That is a real turn on to women….a fear of getting hurt…not so much.
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At the same time, they encourage beta traits and, if he asks about how to treat women, advise him to act beta (“be nice, be yourself”). This goes 1000x for single moms.
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I totally agree but then, what are these women good for (in relation with the opposite sex; I’m not talking about their internal value) other than draining your balls? You can’t even expect them to mother kids. They have extraordinary expectations while offering hardly anything other than their bodies.
I once saw one of those bullshitty reality shows in which a girl was choosing among 3 boys by looking at their domiciles. One of the “unfortunate” guys who was rejected had two tubes of toothpaste in his bathroom closet, one full and one nearly empty. Now what is such an impossible girl good?
I have more or less adopted Captain capitalism’s version of MGTOW: I don’t give two damns about girls. If a sweet girl registers a beep on my radar, I try to open and game her but I won’t go out of my way and I don’t loose sleep if it doesn’t work.
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[…] Why Are Some Beta Males Bitter About Women? […]
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Rejection never made me bitter; it was the California Family Court system that made me bitter…
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I see what you did there, posing a question that answers itself.
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probably the same reason they’re bitter about sjws, feminists, Lena Dunham and other bogeymen
(stand by for selectively curated retorts)
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Today’s vocabulary lesson, for the Cathedralese inflicted:
The nouns you mentioned are neither imaginary nor objects of fear.
You’re mistaking justifiable loathing and righteous anger for “fear”.
/PSA: this retort is presented in its original, uncurated form… you fairy.
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Sperg == Synagogue Masturbator?
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“the solution isn’t MOAR WHYTE BABEEZ. ”
The solution isn’t MORE WHITES NO MATTER WUT UBER ALLES, it’s “better whites and a steady-or-increasing number of them”. We have enough retards in the population as it is; quality needs to be embraced again, this time by the middle class.
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We need to revisit eugenics.
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The aristocratic class needs the support and healthy numbers of members of the intelligent class. The intelligent class needs the support and numbers of the working class. All of these classes need a reasonably regulated criminal class. All of the above classes need to be of the same race and nationality.
Disrupt the pyramid and you become very, very vulnerable.
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But it’s the ‘intelligent’ class that’s landed us in our current mess. University intellectuals, media magnates, mass-immigration-supporting business leaders. Makes you wonder…..
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STRIKES ME THAT THERES A LOT OF BITTER BUTTHURT ISSUING FROM THIS HERE BLOG
WHATS THAT SAY ABOUT ITS PROPIETOR N MINIONS?
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I don’t know, maybe that they know how to knock off the caps lock.
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Scalzi, this is not Vox Populi. Go vomit your all caps spew there.
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“This is true – women HATE weakness… even in their sons.”
Very true. However, I wouldn’t say beta males are necessarily weak, it’s that they don’t have many ways of showing their strength. Five hundred years ago or even one hundred years ago, the world was still chaotic and violent, with men needing to be masculine in order for the village to survive. Women’s unhinged sexual natures were not given the freedom to act on her every impulse, for if she did she would be exiled or suffer immediate material harm. A man who was not, by our standards, an alpha, could still show his strength and resolve in a tangential way that meant something (i.e. fighting off brigands, hunting), and thus acquire a wife.
What does the average beta have today? The gym? Sports? Music? The office? Exciting though they may be, they do not a strong man make. Peace is good, but not too much of it, there needs to be some strife and conflict in order for men to feel alive.
Betas are a product of their times. Give them conflict and they’ll rise to the occasion. Give them an overabundance of peace and you get our modern gynarchy, with plain janes treating their equals or betters with unmerited disdain and antipathy. In order for civilization to survive, it has to end. Oh the irony.
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” lack of game, and their poor understanding of female sexual nature, each reinforcing the other in a feedback loop of infinite incel, ”
Never again this guy is armed and dangerous.
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there is another thing you are missing. male legacy is in the hands(womb) of women. women do not share this risk. naturally, men will be suspicious of women, they should not be deprived of this.
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I can totally reiterate talking about my exes both of them dumped me as of being weak, needy, a loser, cheap ass, “without a man inside”, immature etc. Both expressed it in this way or another, but reasons are the same.
The first one was a slutty club bitch who was dumped by her alpha ex, who was just tired of her. She dumped me mainly because of lack of money, but also because I’m a “rag”.
The second one was a rich depressive feminist who was cheated on and dumped by her ex “asshole” few years ago and before that by another alpha boy. She swore to me I’m her angel, and that she loved my kindness, that god sent me to her etc, but as soon as I lost my head and started running around her as a boy around his precious mother, she grew cold and dumped me at some point.
She was talking bullshit about “lack of space” but when we met and I directly described her my beta/omega behavior and asked if she felt disgust towards it she silently agreed lol. So I think both were kinda comparing me to their previous alpha experience which made it simply impossible to stay with me, even though the last one really though she needs someone “kind and passionate”.
So everything works out exactly the way CH describes, there is no other way around, no matter what crap girls try to tell/show you in order to eventually boost their ego through you.
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Have you been able to change your own inner weakness?
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I tried to get to the point why am I like that, why do I have fears to lose a gf once I get one, just like a fear to lose mother or parents.
So there are several reasons for that – I’m physically not developed at all – no muscles, I have no job at the age of 26, also I was brought up by my mother and grandmother, while father was doing basically nothing, not paying attention to me at all. So now when I live alone I kinda always seek that strong wise woman who can take care of me and who can give me attention every time I need it (every day at least). I feel like a puppy sometimes.
Given all that, I’m trying to work on myself, I started going to gym recently, actively looking for a job but as for different approach to women I don’t even know. When I control myself, when I just start dating – I can pretend to be a jerk who doesn’t give a damn about a girl and they start loving me. But when I inhale enough of female pheromones and fall in love – it’s all done, I start looking at them as at my family member, I just get obsessed with them and my need for “mother” comes up no matter what I do.
And it has nothing to do with sex – I get enough of sex from random craigslist/OKC women/couples when I really need it. I have no fear or any shyness as for sexual part and I don’t really care about sex at all, I would rather have a dedicated loving partner, than a hookup. But relationships get ruined literally after 5-6 months.
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Also now, when I got here on CH, I might try using commandments of poon next time and some other advices. I don’t know if I can maintain enough control over myself when I fall in love though to follow these commandments successfully. I might just go completely nuts and turn into what I usually am with someone I love – a weak puppy trying to do everything she wants and requiring her attention every single day.
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Interesting about the sex. Mostly, I’ve got to assume you’re trading on your youth, but it’s good you don’t have too many hang-ups there. But you definitely need to work on your LTR game, cause youth doesn’t last forever and you seem to need LTRs.
60% or more of everything is genetic, though the only message from figuring that out is how hard you have to fight to change. There are 2 kinds of father who do little or nothing to help raise their sons. Alphas who usually fuck off early, but whatever are too busy with their alpha stuff, and betas who are intimidated by, or rejecting of, mom and let her do it all. Mine was a beta, that’s my genetic burden to overcome. What’s yours?
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After the divorce (sixteen years, three kids) and a few failed relationships I found this blog (and others) and the light dawned. I worked on myself (physically, mentally, spiritually, and socially) and focused on my mission and my children. Now I find that I no longer have much weakness for women at all. The (to me still surprising) outcome is that pretty much all of my relationships, of all types, are now entirely on my terms.
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Sean Fielding
My father is definitely beta, typical skinny fat guy, a journalist, even though he’s been to wars, but nothing like alpha type. He had a tendency to whore around when he was young even divorced with mother, but then eventually came back and was patient to her bitching all the time. I always remember how she initiated fights with him over dumb shit and started beating him and he was patient enough not to respond. Even though once in a while he hit her lol, but really rarely. And didn’t really spend much time with me. He spanked my ass with a belt when I was 5 to 10 for bad behavior, but that was about all he did in my upbringing process. I grew up with my grandmother/mother nursing me, cuddling with me, spending all the time with me until around 18.
Amazing that I borrowed that negative attitude towards him from my mother. She always talks to him as he is a dumb idiot and when I talk to him, I can’t help being cold and short.
But he was always very warm with her, giving her gifts, consoling her, ready to do anything asap, even to risk his life for me and her. I feel really sorry that I got that negative attitude towards him.
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Southern Man
To me it was a revelation as well. I wish I found that blog before dating my last ex. There was so much crap I missed, I didn’t recognize, I could fix and improve, gosh, all her red flags, all her bitchiness and my wrong omega behavior. But again, without that breakup I wouldn’t even bother looking for any advice. And I think I should appreciate that and try my chances next time while keeping myself in control.
And I’m glad to hear it worked out for you, especially at a scale of really long term relationships. It really helps, not even speaking of everything written here being a right thing to do and follow.
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MM – OK sounds close enough to my story.
There’s something about spoiled guys that girls often find superficially attractive, which is one reason you’re not incel – one alpha trait you have at least is a sense of entitlement. I had that too, but it was a lot easier back when I was in my 20’s, because the sexual revolution was still pretty young and innocent. The fact that you can make it work a little in today’s hardened scene is a plus.
Problem with ‘spoiled guy entitlement’ is that we got it by being spoiled by the women who raised us. It’s not like ‘alpha entitlement,’ which is naturals who just downright feel and act like women are due them. These guys find it easy to treat women with bemusement as kid sisters, we do not because women were in power over us growing up, we were not in power over them.
So you gotta work. Read the 16 Commandments regularly. Read the old stuff here, look at the categories. Try to keep the kid sister treatment uppermost in dealing with chicks. Try to be funny – we’re spoiled so we just think we’re great without working much, ie we’re not really great. Hardest thing may be ‘Do not make your woman your mission’ but critical for LTR. I’m a member of a high-status profession, and I STILL make my woman my mission. Get a mission.
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Try some dianabol, max
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And this is why tolerating promiscuous women causes tremendous suffering for the men. When men lock down the women’s options and means of attracting men (enforcement of high consequences for sluttery), then the women rely on other means. Being pleasant, lower weight, etc. when he women can flash skin and walk naked, some will lose weight and do it, and some will gain 100 lbs and do the same.
when we insist on marriage for sex, then we further limit what women can try to go for. Which means they understand that if alpha mcbadboy does not marry them from the get go then the subsequent dumping will come at a heavy cost, such that she will unconciously value Jon Boring more than otherwise.
I’d like a great car, if I know that the cost of said car is expensive enough that I can only buy one, or if I’m very lucky, two cars in this life, then I am going to look at more than just the sleek lines and sexy engine.
Right now the cost of alpha cock is very low. Consequences of failure to secure alpha cock are, thanks to worthless goddamn piece of shit white knight faggot brigade, also very low.
Low cost cock = lots of carousel riding.
But we have reversed everything. We’ve made the cost of marrying and divorcing women very high for men, and very low for women. We’ve made the cost of failure to successfuly initiate sex very high for men, and very low for women.
As a result we are cursed with a high number of men who rightfully won’t get married, and herbivores that are terrified to approach and as a result, simply eject from society. Alternatively we are also cursed with a high number of emotionally damaged women who have high partner counts and an inability to even feel love, and a high divorce rate.
Not good. When the smoke clears post collapse, we must never allow this to happen again.
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http://www.cnn.com/2015/06/13/us/dallas-police-headquarters-shooting/
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zero casualties…I smell more “problem/reaction/solution”.
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What does that mean, Bill?
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It means it was probably a set up on the part of the intelligence agencies to demonize anyone who dares to question the police state.
The MO usually involves “handling” a mentally disturbed or retarded person to lead them into an attack on the cathedral, then saying “look at what the FBI is working SO hard to save you serfs from now give us more money and the rest of your rights”…
It happens OVER and OVER.
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Very sad story 😦 It sounds as if both parents were deemed unfit and the grandmother had custody.
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More cold, hard truth.
Looking back I see it all so clearly. These truths should be driven into every young man of worth.
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Can you take this a step further and say that women are the way they are, both to alphas and to betas, because they are positioning themselves to produce the best offspring possible? I have literally stopped even blaming them for being so bizarre. It’s for the children.
Also, what’s five minutes of sigma worth?
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Very perceptive – from the point of view of evolutionary biology.
Good line to use on lefty chicks -“I didn’t make the rules of evolutionary biology, I just live by them.”
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Totally dude, this may be the most valuable takeaway from “The Red Pill”.
I never hold any feelings of bitterness toward women any more. They’re just fulfilling their universal prerogative. All is well. Learn game and learn to love them as they are. Period.
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I was cuck’d by two mental cases and left baw bawing in my (interracial) Cheerios before discovering the holy light of the Chateau + manosphere and re-inventing myself as a 3ft tall midget African American primate pygmy poon slayer.
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but are you still bitter ?
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I post on the Chateau and listen to the Tom Leykis show (even though he’s just another white hating Jew whose entire career is based on the hegelian dialectic ie problem, reaction, solution). Even were I to tell you that I am not bitter at those who wronged me but rather the Jew controlled society that lied to me about the nature of women, society would still consider me a bitter woman hater just for posting on or reading this site and for listening to the Tom Leykis show so its kind of a moot question to ask brah. ;p
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What’s going on when a woman made out with you aggresively, but for one reason or another, you didn’t fuck. Then for some time she was studiously ignoring you, but was visibly still emotionally affected, legs shaking, still considering you “alpha”, responding to texts etc. But you, because of other female attention, kind of slipped into “coffee dates” with this one because you enjoyed the company and had other girls. But then she sensed it as a weakness (which partially was, as I preffered her affection from sex) and now is quite bitchy towards me, sometimes. Also, she offered “we should go play tennis” so I feel I’m in boyfriend box/beta orbiter box. She let’s me touch her but derails any further “go to hers” offers. At the same time she sometimes helps me, honestly, but I feel she went distant and considers me too easy now. Also, she has many male friends and almost no female friends. She is very beautiful. Attention whore warning signs?
I wondered if I should try to play the final card, give her the talk..take it or leave it…maybe it’s irreversible anyway but this doesn’t feel good. Obviously my mistake because I prolonged the “no sex yet” phase too much.
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see “weakness” https://heartiste.wordpress.com/2015/06/13/why-are-some-beta-males-bitter-about-women/#comment-678153
Ignore her and let her see you with hotter tighter younger girls… she will reopen herself, especially if she is attention whoring. and then don’t fumble “for one reason or another” – you see this “one reason or another” stuff indicates you may not know why you didn’t close or worse is surely weakness.
Have fun
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“… for one reason or another, you didn’t fuck”
The reason is that she didn’t see you as alpha enough.
“…studiously ignoring you, but was visibly still emotionally affected, legs shaking, still considering you “alpha”, responding to texts etc.”
The studious ignoring won out over the shaking legs because she didn’t see you as alpha enough. And why put “alpha” is scare quotes? Either you don’t believe the concept is valid or you don’t think she was right to consider you alpha. Either way, the scare quotes are beta.
“because of other female attention, kind of slipped into “coffee dates” with this one because you enjoyed the company and had other girls.”
But this one, you tell us, is very beautiful. Pretty girls don’t even have to LJBF guys like you – you do it to yourselves. And you can’t DHV a beautiful girl by displaying how much you enjoy the company of less beautiful girls.
“But then she sensed it as a weakness (which partially was, as I preffered her affection from sex)”
You said it.
“now is quite bitchy towards me”
Of course she is.
“She is very beautiful.”
Don’t talk that way here. It tells us you’re weak. If you think she’s an 8, call her an 8. To her and the world, ignore her beauty and objectify her, so that you can enjoy her beauty inwardly all the more. A greater artist than you or I will ever be, Augustus Johns, understood this perfectly.
“Obviously my mistake because I prolonged the “no sex yet” phase too much.”
My guess is that she’s the one who prolonged it – you just think you did.
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I think I fucked up – low entitlement. It was possible. But it kind of doesn’t matter, does it. Weakness…well now I am in scarcity, before, I wasn’t. But I made a mistake by not pulling a trigger and yes, I have work to do, I am not fully developed man, so she saw it over time.
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Xman – don’t waste your time with an ultimatum (or indeed, playing tennis).
My read: ASD after making out initially. Then you slipped back into orbiter mode.
Also some one-itis on your part.
Suggest gaming other girls and being seen with them by her for the social proof. Once you know she’s noticed (and pref seen some IOIs from her), just isolate and escalate.
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Yeah, oneitis…maybe..I think loving women isn’t beta in itself, I don’t think you need to give up emotions completely, you just need to fuck her first, and quickly. But I probably don’t have enought strength to pull off “Steve Jabba” style of game – fuck, enjoy, even love, respect, but be ready walk away instantly – and not be seen as beta.
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Yeah, I pretty much see it the same way. She was kind of “fried” first after the night, I probably did a goood job, created a magical moment, and not pulling the trigger puzzled her for some time, but then I lost the mystery and the frame.
Other girls is the way out, obviously. I may tray to “be seen” but it won’t be my priority. Honestly there are better birds around, or rahter younger, she’s 23 already, lol:) it’s just my studies right now prevent me from abundance with girls.
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I was about to write exactly this. ASD shields up , you didn’t pass and were cast out into outer orbit. Oneitis even exacerbated the ASD. Next time, even when halfway through the kino – whip out d1ck and you are out of FZ for sure. Then its banging of the poon.. or judges gavel.
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She’s butthurt because she senses that she doesn’t arouse your sexual interest. Hell hath no fury….
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Take her for a walk, hold her hand, corner her against a wall while blocking her escape with your arms, laser her, smirk, then move into the kiss zone. Talk about irrelevant random crap to keep her distracted from your moves.
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The truth is, its impossible to know whats going on in a girls mind when she starts acting “weird.” If she’s hot, She probably has other options and is holding out for someone in particular. The best bet is to get her in a situation where she’s partying any you can be physical enough to short circuit her doubtful emotions. Playing tennis with her isn’t a death sentence, but you cant take on a the friendship role. You still need to tease. lead,and sexualize your conversations. You still might not get her if she’s a turbo hottie but its worth a shot.
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My bet is..some hockey player is fucking her like once a week or sth…she implied sth along those lines…but it may be all bs, or over…she’s feminine etc., positions herself as classy med student, loves cakes and animals bla bla…but is quite ruthless, as any hot woman. girls silently hate her, imo. men silently all want to fuck, but 99% ljbf around. there is some “”sex and the city” influence and “male-female desire” projection when she things her having options, sometimes being sassy and saying there are many men around gives ME tingles, lol. But it seems to be just a front filter, kind of.
Anyway, II’ll put her on the spot and withdraw all attention without being butthurt if it’s a no. Then I’ll find other women and if this ignites the fire, why not, but really…there is no need for fixation on this one, it was just nice case study and sth I wanted to discuss.
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You’re overthinking it, Xman. Outcome indifference – play the long game.
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X Man, I agree with Other Anonymous, ignore her, dump her — she isn’t worth your time. Costs are sunk. Go meet some new girls – they will be more fun – clean slate.
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My lack of success with women made me bitter for a time, but I used that bitterness to cultivate some truly sadistic sexual preferences.
I’m kind of glad it turned out the way it did, in hindsight. Nowadays I fuck all these bitches in ways that would make most porn whores blush. I still occasionally read pickup blogs like this one, with its talk of “love” and “babes”, and I find it all a little… quaint. The kind of stuff my 15 years old self might have dreamed about.
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“So are we going to be allowed to start talking about the m0rality of pump-n-dump”
Been there, done that on my blog. A woman is attractive, so she get pumped. A woman takes too much resources (because she is bitchy, sour, a golddigger, etc.) to maintain, so she gets dumped.
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Women are not worth the investment plain and simple. The only reason a hottie gets married now is for the lifestyle or at the lower level to push the beta to the edge and frustrate him to the point that he breaks and does something stupid like slap the sht out of her and she gets all his money and the kids because the judge is either a white knight or a feminist. Civilized marriage is dead as an institution forever.
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YaReally, Sentient, HABD et al – FR re gold digger.
HB9 21 year old blonde girl from sugar daddy site. Seriously the second hottest girl I have ever gone on a date with (the other one was similar looking from the same site when my game was a lot worse two years ago). Tall, slim, long blonde hair, green eyes, creamy skin, perfect body, great tits, pretty features. Like she could be in Playboy. (I AM better – this time I didn’t even think consciously I was with a HB9 on the street when last time I kept thinking when walking down the street that every man we passed was jealous of me).
Unfortunately, this one WAS a gold digger. Her profile wasn’t very clear so I messaged her and we exchanged numbers and it became pretty clear from the texting. I normally screen them out at this stage, and I did so – I told her I wasn’t looking for a hooker or something transactional and anyway didn’t want to discuss stuff by text (although didn’t explicitly say I don’t pay cash). And then I ignored her. But unusually she kept texting me. Every month or so to check in (I assume reliable sugar daddies are hard to find).
Two days ago, she texted and someone had just cancelled on me so I figured better see her than see no one. At least, good practice for getting used to hot girls.
Met up, she was very flirty and physical and things were clearly on. Responded v well to my usual early comment about sexy legs and I had sexualised a bit on WhatsApp before (so far, so normal).
After that, standard game, kino, stories, escalation..all went textbook. Just a *little* too easy. It’s like back when I was doing stripper game last year – it’s really obvious with the bad ones, much more subtle with the good ones, but just a bit more interest than I’ve earned..a bit too easy. She turned her head to give me her mouth very early on when I went to kiss her cheek for e.g. (I didn’t take the bait..I let her do that 2-3 times more before kissing her).
Not the sharpest girl in the room but I guess she doesn’t need to be. Spoke a bit too fast like she was on drugs and had a tendency to talk over me a little bit (I didn’t let her mostly, but slipped up a couple of times). Actually, I sensed something subconsciously in the first twenty mins – the combination of looks, party girl attitude and maybe the speed of speech and figured she was into drugs, and was like “So, how do you enjoy the feeling from cocaine?” out of nowhere. You could SEE the momentary uncertainty on her face about what to say and then she was like “I really like the feeling blah blah but don’t like the come down” and then I made up some story about when I’ve tried it (which I haven’t). I’m quite proud of myself for learning to read people well enough to hit target with that one.
We exchanged some funny stories of crazy dates from the sugar daddy site (seriously, there are some utter loser rich guys out there – one was so nervous meeting her, he stood the entire time in the bar while she sat on the sofa..she left after 20 min. Another one asked her to move in with him in the first hour).
She had the sense not to actually ask about money in the first date (although she asked if I’d had an arrangement before and I made up something about having had a girl who I showed a good time to, but I wasn’t looking for a hooker). I did get her hamster spinning a bit about asking if she’d be willing to go on holiday with me and she enthusiastically agreed (and at the end asked when she would see me again etc). I would take her on holiday with me actually – I won’t pay cash (or gifts, shopping etc) but I have no problems taking her on holiday and banging her – I can afford it. But man – she is so hot that it is really tempting to go the whole way and give her an allowance etc. I won’t do it, but I can see the temptation.
The escalation was stupidly easy. She responded very well, no resistance, lots of smiles and laughs. Kino, heavy making out, subtly stroking her tits in the bar itself. Very easy escalation in the questions game (she wasn’t good at asking or answering questions – too dumb) to sexual stuff and I spent 5 mins talking dirty telling her a story about what I was going to do to her while making out with her and stroking her tits in the bar. She seemed to enjoy it and it was fun for me to practice.
Then I went to the toilet and when I got back she said she needed to go home and get up early for college class the next day (my sense is this was probably true), so we left and as we were leaving, I pulled her into the corridor heading to the toilets and told her I wanted to kiss her in private. No resistance. We had a massive makeout and I had her tits out and was sucking on them (felt amazing) and I put her hand on my crotch and she was rubbing me. I had the same *slight* sense of fake though – she liked it but wasn’t fully into it. I tried to pull her into the toilet but she wasn’t having it – said she had to get home and “next time” (obv didn’t want to give the goods away and wasn’t genuinely horny enough)
There was SOME chemistry. I mean, she is obviously a gold digger and I could tell her IOIs weren’t 100% genuine and she wasn’t totally into me and turned on. But I would have still come as a breath of fresh air to her after the other guys she met on the site and she enjoyed spending time with me and was happy with the escalation and probably enjoyed the physical stuff to some extent as well. But I know my game isn’t good enough (yet!) to naturally nail a girl like that barring extreme luck. And even if it was good enough, she’s enough of a gold digger that I would have sabotaged myself by being on a sugar daddy site as a Provider and she won’t want to give away the goods too soon.
Anyway, next time I’ll try to just get her straight to my place and bang her but I am not sure it will happen because she will probably want to talk about finances and will lose her interest when she hears my answer (and my travel schedule means it is likely to be a month or so, by which point, whatever attraction I did build up is likely to be gone).
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Funny story Culum. I’m glad you had a fun time, but personally I wouldn’t seek out these kinds of $$$ women. Just retards your game IMO. You have a situation where the subcoms aren’t real, hers or yours, there is something in the way – $$$$$. Been there.
As to the looks and chemistry – totally agree. I have been approached buy half a dozen solid solid 9’s, and probably the BEST looking woman I have ever spoken with, and they were all escorts. I like to get to talking with them about their business and they are usually very upfront… and they have all pretty much said they would much rather get with guys they are attracted to anyway and seek out these guys, rather than just any dolt with $$$. Even in a selling market they still have the upper hand of who they choose!
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which presents this question – IF she really was attracted to you (don’t doubt it), why not carry this idea through with civilian girls? Right???
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Thanks Sentient – I agree. The $$ makes one doubt everything and its interesting what those escorts told you – makes sense.
Not sure what you mean about civilian girls – you mean, if I know that this HB9 was attracted to me (and I’m pretty sure she was, just not enough to break the $$/provider frame) then I should be able to carry that mindset/confidence through to HB9s who are not turning tricks?
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Yes this exactly. You are attractive to high s m v women. Go with it. Assume nothing less.
Now you +may+ not close them all but that is more likely your game and missing something in the interaction. But base attraction is there.
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@Culum Struan
props on putting in the work and getting better for sure…
“I’m quite proud of myself for learning to read people well enough to hit target with that one.”
nice calibration…
“The escalation was stupidly easy. She responded very well, no resistance, lots of smiles and laughs. Kino, heavy making out, subtly stroking her tits in the bar itself. Very easy escalation in the questions game (she wasn’t good at asking or answering questions – too dumb) to sexual stuff and I spent 5 mins talking dirty telling her a story about what I was going to do to her while making out with her and stroking her tits in the bar. She seemed to enjoy it and it was fun for me to practice.”
this (and the whole exchange, really) is in her frame…(do you see why?)…if you are going to bang this one for ‘free’ (and any others from this sugar daddy site) you will need to get her out of her frame and into yours…make a plan, work the plan…lol…and i ALWAYS recommend giving it a try to see where it goes/how much you can push the boundaries…but you are in a slight hole you will need to climb out of first…and it’s probably going to involve upping your asshole game to 11…lol…
“We had a massive makeout and I had her tits out and was sucking on them (felt amazing) and I put her hand on my crotch and she was rubbing me. I had the same *slight* sense of fake though – she liked it but wasn’t fully into it.”
she liked you well enough for this (still in beta provider mode), but if she was into your frame, she would have gone into the bathroom with you…for free…lol…
“There was SOME chemistry. I mean, she is obviously a gold digger and I could tell her IOIs weren’t 100% genuine and she wasn’t totally into me and turned on. ”
that’s some nice red pill reality checking there…lol…you ARE getting better…there is actually ALOT of this in the world…it’s just that most men (beta provider/orbiters) are not tuned in enough to notice…or, more probably, they haven’t had any REAL desire pointed at them enough to know the difference.
“But I know my game isn’t good enough (yet!)…”
GREAT attitude…lol…it just takes practice, practice, and practice…and really, is talking to hot girls really that much of a hassle…lol…
“…by which point, whatever attraction I did build up is likely to be gone).”
just assume attraction is always reset to zero after every meet up/date/sexy time…comfort/rapport may linger, and ASD may be reduced…but attraction always starts fresh for every interaction…just think of a ‘relationship’ (and especially FB/FWB) as a series of SDL/SNL/ONS…
just remember, AWALT…so, any girl that is an escort is still a girl…if you can get her into your frame, she’ll do it for free…and make you breakfast…or at least try…lol…you just have to ping her hindbrain hard enough to show off your ‘genetic superiority’ (and then let her hamster be your friend)…which includes NOT paying/not HAVING to pay for it…in other words, in order to get that genuine desire, you’re going to have to game her harder/tighter…negotiating desire does not work (see Rational Male for more…)
so, if you are going to see her again, or date any other girls from that site, just pretend that you met them off tinder…and game them harder, without mentioning the ‘paying’ aspect (just pretend they are ‘civilian’ girls)…if they bring it up, treat it like a shit test (which it is…to you, at least, bc you NEVER pay…lol)…then, spike sexual attraction, by DHV and body language/proximity but NO kissing or other make out stuff until you are back at the ‘isolated location’…lol…remember, you have to get her to chase you…
good luck!
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Great stuff, HABD…lolz…note to self: keep a playful vibe…don’t sperg out, etc.
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HABD – THank you – agree completely.
I have pretty good results from that sugar daddy site actually because I’m good at weeding out the gold diggers and going for the girls who basically want to date an older successful guy. This girl was an obvious goldie and I ignored her, but she kept chasing me and someone else flaked on me so I figured I may as well fill an empty evening – it was a fun experience still.
I know exactly what you mean by “real desire” – the first time I accidentally triggered it (two years ago – same bar) I didn’t know what hit me – it’s like she just had to have me and would do anything. I somehow managed to get her in the toilet and she gave me a superb BJ and then she thanked ME. I’ve felt it in other girls since – once you know that it’s much easier to spot the lack of it.
I also find incidentally that on the sugar site, I have much better results when I say up front “no cash”, as opposed to being vague about it. It just sets the frame strong and early. There’s a good thread on the Roosh site about sugar daddy game and most of those guys advocate keeping it vague to get her interest up, and letting the girl give you a free sample of the goods and then going dark on her, but I don’t find it fun to be with a girl who isn’t really into me.
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Thanks HABD – the mod seems to be improving slightly this week but I now have a not-long reply with some more thoughts about sugar daddy game stuck in mod.
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@CS
stuck in the stack…again…i hope it gets bumped to mod, then, at least I can see it…lol…
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Mods! You’re killing us.
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Short of complete societal collapse I can’t see what can happen to change any of this. Masculinisation of women and feminisation of men will of course bring that about, but just how far off is it? A labour market flooded with cheap female and immigrant labour was the aim right? and that’s were we are, and yet the rot continues. Did we misunderstand the aim or is there something coming that we have failed to anticipate?
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Read the bible story of the tower of babel – there have been multicultural collapses before. We can encourage this by hastening the end of the equalist period by comedy – the only thing that could bring down the system at this point.
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The most bitter guy I know is a very conservative, ginger engineer. I kinda understand his bitterness. He’s followed all the rules in life. Got a nice job, is in decent shape, and teaches salsa on the weekend. Yet, he gets flaked on constantly. Game is important for a guy like him, because the culture has taken a nasty turn for the guys who are straight arrows. In the past, when girls weren’t waiting to settle down, he’d be a reliable doting husband. In 2015 he’ll be wanking alone into his thirties, and his eventual wife will triple his notch count.
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He’s fucked 2/3 of a woman? What’s his notch count now, a double amputee?
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We need to solve the equation x + 1 = 3x. That is, present NC plus one equal three times present NC. So presently he has known half a woman.
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Ha, it’s spergy to go into my own math mistake, but I see I’m innumerate too.
Shoulda been more like:
He’s fucked half a woman? What’s his notch count now, one Jaws victim?
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JC – Damn, you got that out while I was typing.
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Maybe he fucked a mermaid. Or a pygmy.
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Man’s wife comes home and finds hubby in bed with a midget.
“ARE YOU CHEATING ON ME AGAIN!!!”
“Well, dear… as you can see, I’m making an effort to taper off.”
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I meant she’ll start the relationship with triple the notch count. I’ve never asked but I’d say he’s somewhere between 0 and 2 right now at 25.
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Ah, I see. Thanks.
But now you’re harshing my sperg. I’d just got to thinking his eventual wife will be a 4, and all he’s got for an NC now is a drunken ONS with a 2.
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I think you meant triple digit his notch count so if he has 10 she has 1000 and a prolapsed spinchter
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Yet, he gets flaked on constantly.
I do too.
Dating is dead from what I see. And this was something I was able to do well enough in my beta days.
I do now get sexual activity with women that I want (rather than undesirables who are chasing me), but it’s always during a spontaneous meeting, never a date.
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Better to either get them while they are out or right over to her place or yours. Dating per say is in fact dead and a waste of time. Game and play the numbers game. Keep 2 or 3 ready to go at all times. Disposable hoes.
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Yup. Although in my experience I find that they will try to claim you as their boyfriend if you make out with them, and then scheduling things is possible. CH posting about how hookers charge more for making out than for anal was quite telling. Churchians, take note.
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HAVING EMOTIONS MAKES YOU MAN BUT YOU NEED TO LEARN HOW TO CONTROL THEM. THERE ARE BITTER PEOPLE IN ALL GROUPS. STOP CATEGORIZING THESE THINGS. WOMEN CAN BE BITCHES. WE ALL KNOW THAT, THAT IS LIFE. IT IS SOCIETY WHICH HAS ALLOWED THIS BEHAVIOR TO THRIVE AND EVEN ENCOURAGING IT IN THE MEDIA AND SO FOURTH. THERE ARE MEN WHO ALLOWED THIS CRAP TO HAPPEN. THERE ISN’T A ONE ANSWER SOLUTION TO THIS PROBLEM. IT IS A HUGE ISSUE NOW ESPECIALLY IN MODERN DAY AMERICA. WE HAVE BEEN OVER-RUN BY FUCKING FEMNAZIS, AND NO I’M NOT COMPLAINING, I LITERALLY SEE IT EVERYWHERE AND NO ONE WANTS TO TALK ABOUT IT. SOONER OR LATE, SOMETHINGS GOTTA GIVE AND IT WILL.
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Woah. Calm down sparky.
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Why doesn’t shit like this get flagged for mod
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I’m a recovering beta and I’d like to confirm this post with a personal anecdote. Once where I was working another employee was talking to a woman and during the conversation brought up that she looked like she was tired/under stress. She said, “Yeah I know I look like hell. I just want to get home.” I thought she was good looking and felt like being nice so I volunteered, “Are you saying you don’t look good? You must be joking.” She turned on me and snapped, “Apparently I don’t because he wouldn’t have brought it up.” She rolled her eyes and resumed talking to employee one.
I didn’t feel like talking to a woman for months after this incident.
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Typical. Showing interest is an art form, these days.
A shitty, ugly, pointless modern art form.
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I make it a point not to comment on a woman’s looks unless she is in my bed.
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Yep. I’ve seen way too much of their ugly sides to repose a shred of trust in them. I’m just here to watch pretty lies die screaming.
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[…] Source: Heartiste […]
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They get bitter about women because the women they hit on are much more likely to be bitches. As you have said previously, the 8s and up are hit on less regularly than the 5-7s who the lower smv value males hit on. These 5-7s are often bitchy, partially because they are suffering from the cuntishness endemic to the western womyn are partially because they are bitter themselves.
Case in point. Last weekend a DJ friend of mine took me with him to a club which was filled with 16-19 year olds. We were there for an hour, so I took off to the dance floor to make some conversation with the resident poon. The first girls I talked to were a group of straight 6s who were standing watching the dancing, and I asked them if their parents knew they were out. The one girl replied to me ‘how old are you, 47?’ and not in a playful way, in full on viper mode (I’m a youthful 37), so I told her I was 72 and my old age home had given me a free coupon to the club. I left them and 10 mins later approached two solid 9s at the bar and said exactly the same thing. I struck up a conversation with one of them, who was really friendly and kept asking me how old I was. I wouldn’t tell her and eventually she guessed I was 28.
That’s not the first time I have experienced savage put downs by unattractive women both irl and on Tinder. Some lower smv women prop up their self esteem by being bitches to men who approach them because in some way it must allow them to feel like they are emulating the behaviour of women with higher smv and like they have choices (ultimately they don’t). Higher SMV women have less to prove to themselves and others.
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They get bitter about women because the women they hit on are much more likely to be bitches.
They dismiss hotties as “out of their league”, and can’t talk to them normally anyway, being too intimidated. They can talk to the middling attractive girls normally, so they try to get with them instead.
Also, fatties and fugs despise themselves, and despise men who dumpster-dive, knowing full well that they are ugly. By contrast, hot women automatically award a man bonus points who talks to them, especially if he does so normally rather than like a lovestruck little girl.
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so much truth in this. one of the hottest girls i ever dated was someone i never thought i could. we had gone to school together. everyone had the hots for her, including myself.
years later we ended up as facebook friends. no big deal because it was a small school and everyone is friends. anyway…
at the time, i probably wouldn’t have even considered approaching her in person. she was hottie like i said. not sure what got into me but somehow or another i ended up making a provocative comment on one of her posts. nothing overtly flirtatious towards her (i had a girlfriend at the time) but my comment definitely had some sexual overtones that made sense in the context of the post. she responded almost instantly. nothing snarky or sarcastic. no mocking or insulting. she just came back with something clever and flirty. mind was blown. i was so used to other girls who constantly shit test and think they are funny when they’re actually being bitchy that i didn’t know how to handle it at first.
but just like you said, hot women do reward you for talking to them. it was like she was starved for positive attention from a guy who was good enough to deserve her. long story short, we flirted a little more, dated for awhile. she was one of the nicest girls too. not a bitter, angry, bone in her body. treated me like a king.
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Women laugh at me all the time. I flirt with anything from a 6 to a 10. Some bitches are in fact bitter but if you have something interesting to say most are cool at first. I was called creepy as fuck recently then I turned it around and told her she looked creepy herself so I though she would apprectiate the joke. She laughed at that. The joke was my opener to her. Some cute little black girl at random told her something like “You are not a true boy scout until you eat a brownie.”
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88….’not an angry bone in her body’
More to the point, did she have YOUR bone in her body at some stage? Inquiring minds want to know.
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“I was called creepy as fuck recently then I turned it around and told her she looked creepy herself”
I’m in awe at such ingenious repartee.
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good point about dumpster diving as well.
all women despise men who do that. i’ve posted before about a girl i lost over cheating with a bar trash. it wasn’t the cheating that bothered her so much as that i cheated with someone so low value. said she couldn’t believe i wanted that girl more than her and would risk losing her over someone like that. she never got over it.
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“all women despise men who do that.”
only cheat if the fling is hotter than the ring.
i walk away from easy bang notbabe6/7s because 1) i’ve already nailed my Hb8 that morning and i’m thinking clearly and 2) it’s only going to turn her on if the fling is a younger 9+.
online girls are single for a reason. trash. all the real hot ones are taken by the time they’re 15. gotta poach or get super lucky.
never stop searching
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They have every conceivable right to be upset. Those of us who were always “cool” and “tough” and all are generally useless to civilization (I know, I am one of you). The so-called “betas” are what keeps it going, not the cool guys. It’s an ugly truth, I know, but there you go. The solution? Dictatorship of course. Pass it on gents.
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Yeah everybody wants what the other guys got..but have you seen a happy beta? You know the guy with an ugly ass wife and no cool friends or cool clothes drives a shitty car and lives in a mediocre neighborhood and yet he is still glad to be here. Yeah I have seen I guy or two like that in my time and guess what? Everybody hates that guy. Know why? Cause he doesn’t give shait…lol
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Ignorance is bliss.
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dynamic, passionate and authentic… does not respect norms. I know some guys like that, end result = alpha even if they never cared to capitalize on it with better looking women. They are usually cerebral and focused on their mission and don’t really care about women or sex.
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Women treat beta males worse for no reason other than that they aren’t alpha males!
The interesting thing is that there’s no male parallel to this. When men treat ugly women worse, it’s usually for a reason, like she acts like an annoying twat etc.
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Most women would treat all men like shit, including alphas. but they can only get away with it with the betas.
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I find that interesting, too.
The ugliest, fattest woman in the world could show interest to me and I would never sneer at her or make fun of her for putting herself out there.
Actually, its pretty much always flattering, and I’ve been with a few truly beautiful young women.
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This dragon has several heads. For starters the quality of the women has been in free fall for a long time now. The once chaste, slim, girl next door, home grown beauties are now tatted up sluts with chips on their shoulders and an extra 60 pounds of flab. They treat everyone like garbage because in their souls they are garbage.
They’re fat because Monsanto puts tones of preservatives in bad food and you’re body stores those preservatives in its fat cells. Those cells do NOT go away and act life a lifelong fat suit no matter how much exercise or diet is done. You could starve the worst of them for years in a concentration camp and they would die of hunger – fat. Yes the cells may shrink but not fully and even though you’re fat your body is screaming for more food because what you eat doesn’t contain any nutrients your body can use.
They’re sluts because all social constraints on female behavior have been removed being labeled ‘misogynist’. The female was the chosen target of the serpent in the garden *because* she was the moral inferior to Adam and more easily manipulated. The devil attacked the weakest point. Women left to their own devices are horrific sluts and not wife material yes even your mom. If you promote moral depravity and make illegal or strongly sanction any restraints you get Sodom.
They’re sluts part II because its all so important that they go to college instead of get married – which in modern society is akin to sending your daughter to work in a brothel. House a bunch of newly sexually mature young adults in a place with no supervision – see what happens!
What’s left after this process of larding it up and slutting it up is whats on offer in the US today and it isn’t pretty. Combine this with the very real negative psychological effects of riding the cock carousel. If your girl is a vapid shallow unfeeling beast the effects will be minimal – but she won’t bond to you because she could never bond with anyone. If she can bond her ability to do this is destroyed after #1, #4, #7-9 dumped her harshly so now all you’re doing is caring for a mental patient until she decides to divorce rape you.
Then you on the other side you geld all men from birth because masculinity is ‘bad’ and sexist and you make sure there isn’t a father in the home because government took over that role.
The benefits from all of this include larger and ever growing corporate profits for Monsanto, Unilever, Colleges, banks, the family law machine, and the current worsening police state. If your a big business conglomerate or politician this is good news. For everyone else – not so much. Leave America now – depart – the cattle cars will be next and you can’t save the place.
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Women treat beta males worse for no reason other than that they aren’t alpha males!
Yep. Betas are bitter because from the beta perspective women are mostly parasitic. You give her everything you have and she starts banging your friends. Who wouldn’t be bitter?
The collapse of societal shaming for cheating women has been a disaster for betas.
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The Matrix and all its lies don’t help, but I suspect most betas are that way by natural disposition, which is why it’s so hard to deprogram them. A growing society (i.e. America prior to 1960) harnesses them. A dying society eats them.
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well said…
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Word.
They’re bitter because they are 1950s machines running in a post apocalyptic poontang perplexity.
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” A growing society (i.e. America prior to 1960) harnesses them. A dying society eats them.”
Nice phrase
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“A growing society (i.e. America prior to 1960) harnesses them. A dying society eats them.”
COTW
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Ensuring that our Betas each get their own woman, i.e. guaranteeing 1-Man/1-Woman, is the foundational principle of Western Civilization. Without 1-Man/1-Woman, we are no better than the feral 0bama voters.
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A crude analogy. Back in the tribe days if there was a river there were no bridges built because the river provided some safety. The bridge builder endangers the tribe and makes the tribe less safe. Having a society full of bridge building betas makes a society a less safe place.
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Come to think of it, bridges were probably some of the first engineered structures…interesting analogy.
Our adventuresome and inventive spirit probably didn’t take too long to bite us in the ass.
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If a person thinks about it, that bridge while it might make life easier for the tribe, also was a huge security risk, first the bridge would have to be protected against vandals, then against invading tribes. Now if a tribe was strong and could protect the bridge and its tribe that is one thing. In America generally speaking we are no longer able to protect and defend our social units. The average white male beta might be able to be a killing machine in times of war but yet the policies most of them gravitate to leave women open to be attacked.
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Down the street, there is an uber-ultra shankoid dive bar with purple walls and un-name-able horrors raging in the bathrooms on any given Thursday night..
Some random guy comes by to converse. At such times,she invariably hands me the bottle she happens to be drinking from.
I drink from it and hand it back.
The dude walks away.
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I drop trow, pee in the bottle, then head for the door.
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A great post by Dalrock;
https://dalrock.wordpress.com/2015/06/01/someone-should-have-warned-them/
The Daily Mail has a heart rending story* about some recent immigrants to the UK who ended up in prison because they didn’t fully understand the local laws and customs. New to the country and in dire need of money, the immigrants set out to use promises of love and commitment to con local Brits out of half of their stuff.
In the case detailed by the Mail the mark (Mrs. Hardman) had recently acquired nearly 400,000 pounds the old fashioned way, in a divorce. After buying a new home for 200,000 pounds, Hardman still had 190,000 pounds left. The new immigrants were able to con her out of 170,000 pounds with false promises of love and commitment, but failed to follow local law and custom when doing so. As a result, the men are now in prison.
To all new immigrants to the US and the UK, I urge you to learn about our laws and customs. Yes we have a cherished tradition of conning gullible rubes out of half of their stuff using false promises of love and commitment, but there are customs and procedures which must be followed when doing this. Before you start conning anyone with false promises of love and commitment, make sure you contact a local divorce attorney to learn how to do this within the law. You may also want to contact a local Catholic priest or a Protestant organization like Focus on the Family to learn how to do this morally as well.
*H/T TFH
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This gem from the Daily Mail article:
Then, in March 2012, Mrs Hardman read James Richards’s profile and was instantly attracted. She didn’t realise the picture, and the accompanying words, had been carefully chosen to entrap as many victims as possible.
James was 48, tall, dark, handsome and prepared to date any woman aged 35 to 60. So she ‘winked’ at him.
‘I was so naïve and inexperienced that I didn’t realise this should have made me suspicious,’ says Mrs Hardman.
‘Most men look for women younger than themselves.’
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[…] something that afflicts both men and women. In particular, I came to think about this when I read this post and this post over at Heartiste. Essentially, bitterness towards the opposite gender is largely […]
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The only way to overcome bitterness is ..Forgiveness . Forgive them for being bitchy and forgive yourself for being a soppy beta.
Its the only way to go forward …in my experience.
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Been to a Walmart lately? The problem is one of quality, not quantity. Abandoning one’s chillrunn to the Borg-run mind factories does not produce the former, so addressing the problem quantitatively, rather than culturally, will just compound the negative situation.
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[…] They weren’t born that way, they were made that way, by repeated failure with women in the sexual marketplace. […]
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[…] Why Are Some Beta Males Bitter About Women? | Chateau Heartiste […]
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http://www.buzzfeed.com/doree/atlas-shrugged#.gd752QmL2v
The world’s most beautiful man is a beta male and its turning off this buzzfeed reporter.
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Written by Eskimo-ess Doree Shafrir. Authoress of “I Was Sure Freezing My Eggs Would Solve Everything” http://www.buzzfeed.com/doree/i-was-sure-freezing-my-eggs-would-solve-everything#.rxeR39dm0
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The shiksa mother which Eskimoess Shafrir so despises:
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The rest of the shkotzim family which Eskimoess Shafrir wishes to annihilate:
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“I Was Sure Freezing My Eggs Would Solve Everything” http://www.buzzfeed.com/doree/i-was-sure-freezing-my-eggs-would-solve-everything
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URGENT!!! TIM HUNT HAS BEEN JAMES-WATSON-ED: Nobel Prize-winning scientist says he was forced to resign (“the trouble with women in science”) http://www.windstream.net/news/read/category/International%20News/article/the_associated_press-nobel_prizewinning_scientist_says_he_was_forced_to-ap
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JAMES WATSON: “[I am] inherently gloomy about the prospect of Africa [because] all our social policies are based on the fact that their intelligence is the same as ours—whereas all the testing says not really.” He went on to say that despite the desire that all human beings should be equal, “people who have to deal with black employees find this not true.”[
TIM HUNT: “Three things happen when they are in the lab: you fall in love with them, they fall in love with you, and when you criticize them they cry.” He suggested that labs should be gender-segregated.
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Reblogged this on MGTOW 2.0.
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Who’s to say they weren’t born that way? What guy ever wanted to the wimpy guy no woman wanted? What guy never wanted to a handsome, cool guy who’s irresistible to beautiful women? It’s not her fault he has inferior genes and as such is under her radar.
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They weren’t born that way because no man is born bitter about women. In a mammal that is highly intelligent and composed of polygamous-capable males (alphas), monogamous-if-they’re lucky males (betas) and hypergamous females, the only reason the beta male genes are even sustainable and don’t disappear through mass beta suicide, is that human psychology has gifted betas with a neat little trick: through their prime reproductive years, they all think they can be alphas.
You almost said it yourself: not only is it a case of ‘what guy never wanted to be a handsome, cool guy who’s irresistible to beautiful women,’ it goes even further: ‘what guy never thought HE could be a handsome, cool guy who’s irresistible to beautiful women?’
It’s only the steady drumbeat of caving to the worst side of perceived reality that turns them bitter. It takes years, and even then, they could save themselves if they could just jettison their bitter, fixed notions and learn Game.
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SF, you left out the fact that all of this cultural poisoning is being INTENTIONALLY PERPETRATED by Evil Psychiatry Inc and the Gramsci Project.
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00ADRXOTO/
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