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Why Less Attractive Girls Act Bitchy

June 15, 2015 by CH

In a normally functioning social dynamic, less attractive women (and lower status men) behave more deferentially toward their betters than do hotter women (and higher status men) toward their lessers, because the beta of each sex seeks to gain social standing by ingratiating herself or himself to pack leaders, (and because threatening the social hierarchy carries great risk).

But sometimes the behavioral properties of the pecking order get scrambled, as often happens when intersex feedback loops are introduced, and we observe contingent social phenomena occur such as when less attractive girls act bitchy when they believe beta males are making advances on them.

Reader Colonel Spartak illustrates this well, with an anecdote that reveals much about the female ego and its response to different sexual market stimuli.

[Beta males] get bitter about women because the women they hit on are much more likely to be bitches. As you have said previously, the 8s and up are hit on less regularly than the 5-7s who the lower smv value males hit on. These 5-7s are often bitchy, partially because they are suffering from the cuntishness endemic to the western womyn and partially because they are bitter themselves.

Case in point. Last weekend a DJ friend of mine took me with him to a club which was filled with 16-19 year olds. We were there for an hour, so I took off to the dance floor to make some conversation with the resident poon. The first girls I talked to were a group of straight 6s who were standing watching the dancing, and I asked them if their parents knew they were out. The one girl replied to me ‘how old are you, 47?’ and not in a playful way, in full on viper mode (I’m a youthful 37), so I told her I was 72 and my old age home had given me a free coupon to the club. I left them and 10 mins later approached two solid 9s at the bar and said exactly the same thing. I struck up a conversation with one of them, who was really friendly and kept asking me how old I was. I wouldn’t tell her and eventually she guessed I was 28.

That’s not the first time I have experienced savage put downs by unattractive women both irl and on Tinder. Some lower smv women prop up their self esteem by being bitches to men who approach them because in some way it must allow them to feel like they are emulating the behaviour of women with higher smv and like they have choices (ultimately they don’t). Higher SMV women have less to prove to themselves and others.

That last paragraph gets to the heart of the matter. Quite often, LSMV girls will act bitchy toward men, even high value men, because this is their only chance to feel, for a very short moment in the sun, the thrill of being an in-demand hot babe with the consequence-free privilege of rejecting suitors left and right. The LSMV girl is, through the egoistic palliative of her phony bitchiness, playing the role of the beautiful girl with tons of options and the self-entitled, my-shit-don’t-stink attitude that goes with all those options.

Of course, the put-on is self-defeating. An LSMV girl bitching out an alpha man leaves him no worse for the wear, especially when higher quality poon is a few feet away and willing to treat him nicer. Beta males don’t lose much, either, for they have avoided entanglement with a cranky bitch who will never stop resenting any beta she settles with into aromantic despair. The real risk to beta males is the growing bitterness that will gradually erode their self-confidence and strip from them any latent natural charms they could develop, for few betas can endure without ill-effect a constant stream of bitchiness from sub-par girls with bruised egos.

The biggest losers are the middling girls who engage in this sort of temporary, impulsive ego gratification at the expense of beta males too nice and generous to know when they are being played for a cunt’s ego prop. These bitterbitches will spend their fleeting prime nubility years in loveless pump and dump scenarios, in the last alone and wondering where it all went wrong, or having to settle far lower down the male desirability scale than they would have if they had ditched the bitch act and got serious about cultivating that sweet, feminine woman inside before youth abandoned them.

Emulation of alpha behaviors really only works for men; ugly girls can emulate the behaviors of cute girls till the cows come home, but because their raw appearance is the alpha and the omega of their desirability to men (at least at the first few meets), such alpha female emulation by fugs will land with a thud at the retreating feet of men rightly casting them off as that most loathsome of creatures: the screwed-up bitch who’s outer ugliness amplifies her inner ugliness.

For men who want more choice in women, and value the crimson pill knowledge that will help them deal with the phony puffery of plain janes icing their player vibe, the first thing to know is never to take an NB4’s bitch facade personally. You aren’t the only man upon whom she’s unloaded her species’ peculiar psychological issues, and you won’t be the last. Water off a duck’s back.

Understanding will increase your confidence as well. Accepting women for what they are, you’ll come to appreciate those times when you’re the target of a homely woman’s nastitude as evidence that you’re far above her lay grade. It’s like a shit test; when you get one, you know the girl is grappling with a bean-budding arousal for you.

Second, know too that a bitchy mediocrity can be leveraged into romance with a pleasant hottie. If the bitchy NB is part of a larger group, calling her out with wit can intrigue the better girls in her company. “I’m sorry, you must have me mistaken for a man who broke your heart.”

Even a mediocre bitch can be turned, if for some strange reason you relished the challenge of notching a night of mediocre sex. Playfully evading her taunts, reframing, and finally gently chiding her for hiding her true feelings under the mask of a tough girl really crying out on the inside for someone who “gets her”, is a (painful, laborious, four-hour) formula for seducing the nasty NB5 of every man’s fantasy.

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Mr GS passes along the story of the battle-toad.

I was out last summer and my friends and I were flirting with whatever female passed by. Anyways, a plump (-5454085/10) girl walks by and hears our hilarity ensue with the females we are joking around with; I’m still not sure, but I think she might have known these women we were speaking to? Anyways, to be friendly I jokingly flirt with her as well to keep things moving, and without a pause she says “You are the most disgusting thing I’ve ever seen” to which I fire back “Well my mother would disagree with you;” the two girls we were initially joking around with laugh and kind of look at this plump-porker in a weird “are you serious?” way.

A warpig of this calibur is not going to get me down with her comment, but in this scenario, where two good-looking men (I’d say my friend and I fall into the 8-9 category looks wise), it seemed out of place. The warpig persisted, “No seriously, you guys are just fucking lame. You are just disgusting.” This battle-toad swung her axe and was trying to cut deep; “did a guy who looked like me molest you or something?” Miss Piggy’s donut-scanners widen and she stares at me in shock (I don’t care if I seduce these other females now, Miss Piggy ruined my fun). “Really???” the battle toad exhales in disgusted awe, “you shouldn’t joke about people getting molested!!” I smirk, “well I’m sorry you got molested.”

Anyways, I can continue my story, but the point is the last paragraph is spot on. I assume her two relatively good looking friends (if they even fucking knew her since they were distancing themselves from her) made her jealous that she was not a part of the fun, and she decided to reject before she could get rejected.

Preemptive rejection is a favorite tactic of the left-behinds. The battle-toad would rather swing her axe than suffer another second of invisibility.

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  1. on June 15, 2015 at 1:33 pm theasdgamer

    “is a (painful, laborious, four-hour) formula for seducing the nasty NB5 of every man’s fantasy.”

    That’s why I keep banging my head against the wall–it feels so good when I stop!

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    • on June 15, 2015 at 1:35 pm da GBFM lzzzzzzzlzlz (TM)

      da GBFM is at da top
      of da
      pecker order

      lzozoozooozoz

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      • on June 15, 2015 at 2:10 pm theasdgamer

        Or at the bottom of the poon order

        lzollolzollol

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      • on June 15, 2015 at 9:02 pm da GBFM lzzzzzzzlzlz (TM)

        @theasdgamer

        just because yur mom told u dat her pooon was her bottomz and her bottomz was her poooonz doesn’t mean she fooled da rest of us.

        lzoozozozo

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    • on June 15, 2015 at 1:35 pm da GBFM lzzzzzzzlzlz (TM)

      hey hearsteitsz!

      when you approach a good looking hot girl, she knows why — you wnats to bang her, feed her, keep her!

      when you approach a skank, she thinks you’re crazy!

      lzlozoozozozoozo

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      • on June 15, 2015 at 2:13 pm martin

        brilliant

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      • on June 15, 2015 at 4:26 pm Anonymous

        Good God…Your a genius.

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      • on June 15, 2015 at 4:34 pm Anonymous

        COTW winner.

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      • on June 15, 2015 at 7:14 pm FlowerPlower

        Those little piggies would never join a club that would have them as a member.

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      • on June 15, 2015 at 9:03 pm da GBFM lzzzzzzzlzlz (TM)

        da gbfm is sometimez da COTW winner, but always always alawyaz da LCOTW winner

        LCOTW winner = lostas cockasz of the weekz lzozozolzozo

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  2. on June 15, 2015 at 1:39 pm Daniel Plainview

    ”
    Things are going to slide in all directions,
    won’t be nothing you can measure anymore…

    …You don’t know me from the wind,
    you never will, you never did,
    I’m the little Jou who wrote the Bible…

    …There’ll be the breaking of the ancient Western code,
    your private life will suddenly explode,
    there’ll be phantoms, there’ll be fires on the road,
    and the white man dancing,
    you’ll see your woman hanging upside down,
    her features covered by her fallen gown.. ”

    -Leonard Cohen (JOOD)

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    • on June 15, 2015 at 4:50 pm misspent youth

      is it just my autistic ears or does the whining cynicism and bitterness of 40-60 year old dudes sound eerily similar to that of less attractive, under-sexed women?

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      • on June 15, 2015 at 5:16 pm johncorvus

        Hah… zing

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      • on June 15, 2015 at 5:16 pm oink

        Yes. it is

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      • on June 15, 2015 at 8:09 pm Greg Eliot

        Mere cohencidence.

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      • on June 16, 2015 at 9:45 am VRW

        I’ve always rolled my eyes at this sort of affect/aesthetic too

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      • on June 16, 2015 at 12:22 pm theasdgamer

        Why children should be seen and not heard.

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    • on June 17, 2015 at 5:12 am King

      Sex.There’s your answer, Plainview.

      Now let’s talk about what kind of person for whom ultrareductive thinking suffices. Either one figures out how to master this titillating but ultimately narrow sector of life, or it becomes the stubborn cud one can never stop masticating. It is an adolescent FOMO carried into adulthood, and for true believers to the death bed.

      If you’re well-sexed, that should scratch the itch. If you’re not well-sexed, obsession is understandable if not exactly excusable, much less tasteful, adult, or socially functional. But if you are well sexed and yet still “itchy” — that’s called a condition.

      Matt

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  3. on June 15, 2015 at 1:40 pm Why Less Attractive Girls Act Bitchy | Neoreactive

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  4. on June 15, 2015 at 1:41 pm Haven M.

    you know what?
    This is probably why the biggest college rape hoax chicks are not that hot.

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    • on June 15, 2015 at 1:48 pm uh

      The ultimate attention-grabber.

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      • on June 15, 2015 at 1:57 pm Haven M.

        kinda ironical that anti-rape feminists who are sex positive sluts are the ones getting dorked over.

        attention seeking plus hero complex when divided by near zero results equals hysterical victim status seeking

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      • on June 15, 2015 at 9:38 pm Regular John

        Mediocre sex positive sluts have always gotten screwed over. They just used to bear the shame with quiet desperation, fingers crossed that the next condom might be lucky.

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  5. on June 15, 2015 at 1:55 pm Why Less Attractive Girls Act Bitchy | Manosphere.com

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  6. on June 15, 2015 at 2:00 pm Sulla

    Mediocre looking girls (and those with that ill favored bitch look) can be analogized to whites who were not slaveholders. Though only about 2% of Southerners owned slaves, the vast majority supported the practice of their more privileged brethren. They did this because they were, on some level, attempting to emulate their higher status peers.

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    • on June 15, 2015 at 2:28 pm Olay Dave

      Wrong! The vast majority who were mostly veeery poor did that because they knew that no matter how low on the socio-economic scale they were, they were always better than the best slave.

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      • on June 15, 2015 at 3:49 pm mmaier2112

        That’s ridiculous. Do you know how expensive slaves were in the South?

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      • on June 15, 2015 at 5:28 pm Quartermaster

        Slaves were at the bottom of the socio-economic scale in the south. That has always been true of slaves in western civ.

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      • on June 15, 2015 at 9:01 pm Captain Obvious

        Most Southerners didn’t own slaves because they were deeply religious and were morally opposed to slavery. But it was a true religiosity, which allowed them to see Abraham Lincoln’s anti-Constitutional nihilism for what it was. Not a fake religiosity – an anti-religiosity – like the Unitardianism of the anti-Constitutionalists.

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      • on June 16, 2015 at 10:50 am Humans are animals

        The Bible is pro-slavery.

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      • on June 15, 2015 at 10:03 pm Ohiomega

        Slavery wasn’t a part of Scots-Irish, Appalachian culture, except that the Irish themselves had been enslaved by the English, and the Scots not treated much better. They were also into slash-and-burn agriculture in remote areas where they could be alone, even at the risk of encountering hostile natives. Completely different culture from the Deep Southerners, who perfected the plantation system in Barbados and imported it to Charles Town.

        My take on states such as Kentucky and (what would become) West Virginia, where it was literally brother against brother, is that they didn’t give a damn about slavery either way. Most of them had probably never seen a slave. Many of them were sympathetic to the states’ rights, Lincoln-the-tyrant line of thought, though. Just my take from growing up in the shadow of Hatfields-and-McCoys Country.

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    • on June 15, 2015 at 6:03 pm B

      People have been emulating the more wealthy for a very long time. One of the biggest examples is the typical suburban lawn. Once upon a time only the rich could afford to have a lawn. It was copied and even city homes often have lawns to mow.

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      • on June 16, 2015 at 7:38 am Captain Obvious

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  7. on June 15, 2015 at 2:01 pm rugby11ljh

    You can leave the game

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  8. on June 15, 2015 at 2:01 pm rugby11ljh

    Can’t

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    • on June 15, 2015 at 3:08 pm ER

      Word. Preach it playa, preach it. Hey man, let’s sarge bro. You may have hear of me and my Playa Guide. My sheeeet it supa tite bro. Like last time I used my 9MM opener bro. Opened 20 and it killed, playa, absolutely killed with 6.

      Man that shit better than Krauser YO! He like 3%…

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      • on June 15, 2015 at 7:22 pm corvinus

        Is that a lesbian?

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      • on June 15, 2015 at 7:22 pm corvinus

        (In response to the Elliot Rodger pic… looks like the Reply function is busted again)

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      • on June 16, 2015 at 4:22 am Adamastor

        Looks like your fingers got too fat to hit the reply button

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      • on June 16, 2015 at 2:19 pm Mario

        Naj, sth is wrong. I wanted to comment on topic and got labeled as replied by Eliott Rodger

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      • on June 15, 2015 at 9:58 pm Regular John

        I knew you were still alive you little faker. Did Mossad at least secret you away to a country with lax sodomy laws?

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  9. on June 15, 2015 at 2:02 pm Mark Boris

    “…wondering where is all went wrong.”

    This is my biggest fear. She has no idea why she acts that way or the consequences of doing so. As a man, I worry I’m doing something to sabotage my happiness without even realizing it. This blog and the red pill in general, more than any other resource, has woken me up to the fact of my bad beta behaviors. But I wonder, where else am I unknowingly shooting myself in the foot?

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    • on June 15, 2015 at 2:15 pm Sentient

      “But I wonder, where else am I unknowingly shooting myself in the foot?”

      That pencil will need a lot of lead… Read MMSL Primer and early blog, the complete CH blog (game, LTR, women etc.) and the YaReally archive for starters.

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      • on June 15, 2015 at 8:39 pm David

        I’d be careful about MMSL. On the surface it seems fine, underneath some of it is wrong. Anyone who says adrenaline or dopamine (can’t remember which) is the basis of female attraction and bonding, rather than oxytocin, is giving you a psyop. In this case it causes you to go thru a lot of unnecessary activity that’s probably fun for her but sexually a turnoff and does not keep her bonded.

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      • on June 16, 2015 at 5:56 am Sentient

        Early MMSL blog and the 2011 Primer. Dopamine is attraction (excitement) / Oxytocin is bonding (cuddling, comfort etc.). Which is what MMSL says. And women need a base level of testosterone as well to become aroused.

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      • on June 17, 2015 at 8:11 am theasdgamer

        Sentient, postmenopausal women have very low T-levels, yet they are quite capable of massive arousal. Women need higher T-levels in order to initiate contact with strange men via deliberate IoI’s. Higher T-levels allows more risk-taking behavior.

        Cosign about oxytocin and bonding as well as dopamine and excitement.

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  10. on June 15, 2015 at 2:27 pm Daniel Plainview

    Why spend so much time trying to understand the nature of out-of-control brats when we could be trying to fix the root of the problem?

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    • on June 15, 2015 at 3:03 pm Sentient

      Sex.

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    • on June 17, 2015 at 5:13 am King

      Sex.

      There’s your answer, Plainview.

      Now let’s talk about what kind of person for whom ultrareductive thinking suffices. Either one figures out how to master this titillating but ultimately narrow sector of life, or it becomes the stubborn cud one can never stop masticating. It is an adolescent FOMO carried into adulthood, and for true believers to the death bed.

      If you’re well-sexed, that should scratch the itch. If you’re not well-sexed, obsession is understandable if not exactly excusable, much less tasteful, adult, or socially functional. But if you are well sexed and yet still “itchy” — that’s called a condition.

      Matt

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  11. on June 15, 2015 at 2:28 pm Helen

    OT: Do you think 15 is too young for this “red pill” stuff? I’m thinking of slipping a print out from something like the Red Pill Room under my son’s door. I don’t think my husband will. He believes in “letting nature take its course.”

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    • on June 15, 2015 at 2:33 pm Sentient

      “I don’t think my husband will. He believes in “letting nature take its course.”

      Slip it under your husband’s door… and check his T Levels. And go make him a sandwich.

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    • on June 15, 2015 at 2:47 pm miguel sanchez

      “Do you think 15 is too young for this “red pill” stuff?”

      too young lol. you’re already too late. 12 is perfect that way he can spend two years of junior high building a solid rep and then when he hits HS he’ll have a jump on every dude and nail all the virgins before anyone can figure out what happened.

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    • on June 15, 2015 at 2:52 pm newlyaloof

      Sure, and when your son brings home 10 times the amount of hot 15-year-old babes than he would have, your husband will thank you for it. lol

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      • on June 15, 2015 at 7:01 pm Captain Obvious

        COTY.

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    • on June 15, 2015 at 3:14 pm Kate Minter

      @Helen: “Do you think 15 is too young for this “red pill” stuff?” As in printing it out and expecting him to understand it on his own? Yes.

      I am raising my daughter on what I refer to as the “red m & m.” It’s simple lessons that any traditional parent would teach her child anyway. I think the example you set for your son will be far more influential, so I agree it is something to discuss with your husband.

      There is a book for teens called Guys Are Waffles, Girls Are Spaghetti that I’ve heard recommended for learning basic biological differences that might interest all three of you. The title refers to the way boys and girls have different brain wiring- compartmentalized versus interwoven. The author, Chad Eastham, has some youtube videos that could be helpful too.

      Best of luck! 🙂

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  12. on June 15, 2015 at 2:45 pm miguel sanchez

    “if for some strange reason you relished the challenge of notching a night of mediocre sex”

    this is part of the reason why having a gf is good even if she’s not a HB9 – you only hit on and bang hotter more feminine girls and have no problem walking away from a bitchy NB at the first sign of snark.

    knowing you can go home and pound out the gf makes every decision a no brainer. always be ready to drop the gf as soon as you hunt down someone better – new ones turn legal every day.

    it’s crazy that the vast majority of men cheat with a woman less attractive than their significant other. you can always do better, younger, hotter. never go down the number line only up.

    I open every potential HB I encounter with the idea that it’s her chance to prove she’s better than what I got.

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  13. on June 15, 2015 at 2:46 pm zagzygg

    Remember, also, that females have a reality problem: they don’t like to accept it. They prefer living in a fantasy of their own creation, and the cognitive dissonance that results in their inevitable clash with reality, which doesn’t care about their fantasies, causes strong feelings of alienation and self-pity when the men they feel should be hitting on them don’t. They don’t like their fantasy world intruded upon by assuming beta-males demonstrate their appraisal of NB4-6’s by hitting on them. These mediocre females know these betas won’t hit on hotties, so when a beta hits on a girl, she is uncomfortably reminded of the status she wants nothing more than to deny.

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    • on June 15, 2015 at 3:02 pm Sentient

      well said…

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  14. on June 15, 2015 at 2:47 pm newlyaloof

    I think betas are like walking inadequacy mirrors that reflect the shortcomings of the bitchy bitches back at them. They don’t want to be reminded that lesser beta are paying attention to them and not the hotties.

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  15. on June 15, 2015 at 3:01 pm Savvy

    You just don’t get it. You were probably acting like an entitled asshole to the women you rated as 6s. Meanwhile, you were probably nicer to the woman who you rated as a 9. Since women who are “rated lower” get hit on more, they often have higher defenses to keep out the entitled jerks who are just going to use them – Y-O-U.

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    • on June 15, 2015 at 3:16 pm ER

      Couldn’t have said it any better myself… I have – no words…

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      • on June 15, 2015 at 3:17 pm ER

        PS – do you want to buy my Playa Guide?

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      • on June 15, 2015 at 9:44 pm Regular John

        We’re supposed believe this guy wanted women? Is that the story they’re going with?

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  16. on June 15, 2015 at 3:01 pm corvinus

    Bitchy plain janes are essentially the female version of what CH calls “caring assholes”.

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  17. on June 15, 2015 at 3:22 pm kborz3

    This looks more a result of alpha rejection and consequential lashing out at betas

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    • on June 15, 2015 at 5:17 pm Tarl

      That’s what I was thinking.

      Bitter LSMV male (beta) = product of too much rejection by desirable females
      Bitter LSMV female = product of too much rejection by alphas*

      * Commitment rejection, not sexual rejection of course

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  18. on June 15, 2015 at 3:56 pm elmer

    It’s true. Ugly female co-workers are the most churlish of women. In the presence of the nubile intern they can get quite brusque.

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  19. on June 15, 2015 at 4:16 pm PA

    The only women who’ve given me shitty tude in the past decade have been fat ‘sharks.

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    • on June 15, 2015 at 5:35 pm Jay Fink

      Yes. Contrary to conventional wisdom good looking women tend to have better personalities.

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    • on June 15, 2015 at 10:25 pm Lazy Hero

      I wholeheartedly concur, sir.

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  20. on June 15, 2015 at 4:19 pm Sean Fielding

    It’s sad. Once upon a time, most 5’s and 6’s could see the obvious, that playing to their strengths – chastity, shyness, quietude, giving, was the way to land the best man. Now feminism has destroyed even these natural advantages they had over their prettier sisters. If anything, it’s made the prettier ones quieter, since their hearts are not in the feminist zeitgeist.

    Feminism – destroyer of mid-SMV men and women alike.

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    • on June 15, 2015 at 5:23 pm Robert

      For.The.Win.

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    • on June 15, 2015 at 5:32 pm 88

      “If anything, it’s made the prettier ones quieter, since their hearts are not in the feminist zeitgeist.”

      it is really interesting to see how it all plays out.

      there are always some people who manage to get through to the other side of difficult times unscathed while others get swallowed up and corrupted instead.

      people try to minimize this reality by saying it’s all about luck (being pretty, born rich, etc.) but it really isn’t. it’s about strength of character. choosing to be a follower like most feminist girls and going along with the trends even if they are destructive is easy. weak people will always take the easy path.

      having enough strength of character to go against the norm and do what’s right and wise and good despite what everyone else does is always going to be harder but some people do it anyway. they are the strong ones. the good stock. the people who are meant to carry on and produce and raise the healthiest, smartest, best, offspring.

      sure, there are some very hot girls who have fallen into the same ugly behavior as their homelier counterparts but when you think about it, they are just showing us they aren’t the total package. they are severely flawed. attractive but weak in character makes them fun for pump and dumps but definitely not good wife/mother material.

      nature does have a way of trying to weed out the bad and carry on with the good by giving us clues as to who and what is best for the future of our species. if we’d only pay attention to those clues…

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      • on June 15, 2015 at 7:08 pm Captain Obvious

        Except that none of this is “natural” – this is all due to the cultural poisoning from the eskimos of Evil Psychiatry Inc.

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      • on June 15, 2015 at 9:18 pm B

        “having enough strength of character to go against the norm and do what’s right and wise and good despite what everyone else does is always going to be harder but some people do it anyway.”

        But that means less female attention rather than more. Which means nature doesn’t want it if we are to believe the whole Darwin thing.

        Perhaps the problems that exist come from the attempts of a few who think they have the right to shape society as they see fit and for their own purposes. I think that has warped the whole equation. The techniques go back thousands of years and the modern ones are vastly refined.

        But still if nature encouraged discipline, strong character, etc why are sociopaths and psychopaths so successful?

        If nature is trying to weed out the bad and carry on with the good, Darwin must be dead wrong.

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      • on June 15, 2015 at 10:10 pm 88

        “having enough strength of character to go against the norm and do what’s right and wise and good despite what everyone else does is always going to be harder but some people do it anyway.”

        But that means less female attention rather than more. Which means nature doesn’t want it if we are to believe the whole Darwin thing.”

        i think you misunderstand me.

        when i speak of strength of character and going against the norm despite what everyone else is doing, i am referencing the women who choose to be feminine, virtuous, and kind and the men who choose to be masculine, passionate, and red pill in their thinking even when they living in a culture that is overrun by the opposite.

        in my opinion, these characteristics are the definition of what is right and wise and good.

        and the outliers who live these truths are the exception to the rule because they are stronger than the rest. their success (better relationships, healthy intelligent children, etc.) is very natural actually and the failure of the weak is natural as well. survival of the fittest baby.

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      • on June 15, 2015 at 11:07 pm B

        I got it, but that’s not how we are told nature works. And good character is at huge disadvantage in human society. Now I am open to tossing out Darwin or at least the popular interpretations there of or realizing that we live a world that has been manipulated so far from nature that it doesn’t apply.

        Nature favors the most prolific as well as the strongest and the ruling class of humanity does everything possible to diminish threats to its power.

        So those of good character, the strong, smart, or whatever, are simply out reproduced by those who aren’t and are a target for the sociopaths and psychopaths that run human society and thus are stronger than those simply of good character because they aren’t limited by things like morals.

        Nature seems to be choosing something else if we are to believe in Darwin.

        I would like to think you’re correct, because I fall into that category but I find no evidence of it being correct. From a reproductive standpoint the men who have a lot kids by numerous mothers who are wards of the state have a much better chance of their genetics being around a few hundred years from now. The collectivist notions of human society, a parental ruling class, etc and so forth have been around for thousands of years now and don’t seem to be going away any time soon. Unless we end up with some sort of individualist, libertarian style system* good character and so forth is more of handicap than a advantage in this game best I can tell.

        *which very briefly existed in the USA and created more wealth and advancement than anytime else in known history, but it’s not the human norm.

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    • on June 15, 2015 at 9:03 pm Captain Obvious

      “Feminism – destroyer of mid-SMV men and women alike.” Doing precisely what Evil Psychiatry Inc designed it to do.

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  21. on June 15, 2015 at 4:30 pm General

    The white U.S. generals are the dumbest since Patton
    http://news.yahoo.com/kremlin-declines-u-plans-store-arms-baltics-eastern-102626443–business.html?.gg_invalid=truce

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  22. on June 15, 2015 at 4:30 pm Just Saying

    The one girl replied to me ‘how old are you, 47?’ and not in a playful way,

    Remember when all is said an done, women choose. (And more than a few have an overly inflated opinion of themselves – and I blame betas for that. A cow thinking she’s a gazelle…) Anyway, a woman can be influenced by a million things, the biggest being the opinions of others. I was in a club not that long ago – I was there to see a friend play. I’m getting zero interest – the way that I generally like it when I go to club to chill. I’m the much-older non-entity – till my friend in the band I’m there to see, sees me. And at the end of the song they’re playing, says, “If everyone asks nicely maybe we can get my mentor to join us.” I smile and say something like, “tonight’s your night.” Now I’m seeing the same young women that dismissed me only minutes before suddenly interested. You can see their little brains trying to figure out, “Who is this guy”? “Is he someone I should know?” “If I go home with him will it make other women jealous?” “Will it up my social standing?”

    Everyone claps and I join them, and we do one of our signature songs from long ago – heavy on the base and two lead guitarists, he and I are playing point, counter-point taking the lead. When we’re done and I thank him and head back into the audience, the same women that 20 minutes before who were dismissive, are asking if they can join me at my table and asking if they can borrow my cell phone to text themselves, so I’ll have their info – snapping photos of themselves “so you won’t forget me”. Now, I was there to listen to my friend – and I was going home to a young lady in my core group of women, so I wasn’t really looking, but I wish I had a video of the entire interaction. I think a lot of guys could learn a lot about how to stack the deck in your favor and how fluid the opinion of women really is. You can do it with almost anything, as long as you put in the time and effort, and it really doesn’t take a lot. You just have to want it enough to make it happen.

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    • on June 15, 2015 at 4:41 pm Heywood Jablome

      So typical, and yet so illustrative, of how the young female hindbrain functions.

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    • on June 15, 2015 at 5:14 pm Sean Fielding

      Theoretically, you can do it with almost anything, but in the real world, few things equal a guitar:

      http://www.mensfitness.com/life/entertainment/study-women-more-attracted-to-guys-who-play-guitar

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    • on June 15, 2015 at 5:47 pm Jay Fink

      I was in the media for several years and was a big star among fans of a genre of music but unknown to everyone else. Was that ever interesting! I would go to a club and be treated like an alpha by the girls who knew who I was and an omega by those who didn’t. The most amusing thing to me as when a girl would be a b*tch to me and then seconds later see another girl (often more attractive) or a group of girls excited as hell just to talk to me. You should have seen the look of confusion on the girls who mistook me for an omega. Priceless. That really opened up my eyes to female nature.

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    • on June 16, 2015 at 8:22 am newlyaloof

      @Just saying, start a blog. I enjoy your stories man. Would be cool to have them all in one place like YaReally.

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  23. on June 15, 2015 at 4:30 pm Mr. GS

    I was out last summer and my friends and I were flirting with whatever female passed by. Anyways, a plump (-5454085/10) girl walks by and hears our hilarity ensue with the females we are joking around with; I’m still not sure, but I think she might have known these women we were speaking to? Anyways, to be friendly I jokingly flirt with her as well to keep things moving, and without a pause she says “You are the most disgusting thing I’ve ever seen” to which I fire back “Well my mother would disagree with you;” the two girls we were initially joking around with laugh and kind of look at this plump-porker in a weird “are you serious?” way.

    A warpig of this calibur is not going to get me down with her comment, but in this scenario, where two good-looking men (I’d say my friend and I fall into the 8-9 category looks wise), it seemed out of place. The warpig persisted, “No seriously, you guys are just fucking lame. You are just disgusting.” This battle-toad swung her axe and was trying to cut deep; “did a guy who looked like me molest you or something?” Miss Piggy’s donut-scanners widen and she stares at me in shock (I don’t care if I seduce these other females now, Miss Piggy ruined my fun). “Really???” the battle toad exhales in disgusted awe, “you shouldn’t joke about people getting molested!!” I smirk, “well I’m sorry you got molested.”

    Anyways, I can continue my story, but the point is the last paragraph is spot on. I assume her two relatively good looking friends (if they even fucking knew her since they were distancing themselves from her) made her jealous that she was not apart of the fun, and she decided to reject before she could get rejected.

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    • on June 15, 2015 at 5:05 pm ho

      That’s what happens when this kind of assholery doesn’t earn you a swift assbeating as a woman.

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    • on June 15, 2015 at 9:48 pm corvinus

      I assume her two relatively good looking friends (if they even fucking knew her since they were distancing themselves from her)

      Heh. Porkers often try to ingratiate themselves with normal people (including girls) and make it out as if they’re friends, just like annoying spergy lesser betas might try to do.

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    • on June 16, 2015 at 12:45 am Glengarry

      You’re a patient man. If you want to turn up the heat after the molestation bit, follow with “You can’t eat away the pain, you know.”

      Whatever she does after that, pronounce “Let the healing begin”.

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      • on June 16, 2015 at 8:32 am Anonymous

        I always say “ya I know” in an unaffected tone and face. That shuts most of them down.

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  24. on June 15, 2015 at 4:44 pm dirkdiggly

    Some of y’all love to hate on that middle range of the SMV curve, but it’s a goldmine of sweet dispositions and femininity if the value differential is right. A girl that perceives you as 2-3 pts > her own value can make for a ravenous, passionate, performance-art caliber shag.

    The hottest women are the hottest women, yes. But, shooting a little below your pay grade can be a win-win for you and her, in terms of good fun and an ego boost, respectively.

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    • on June 15, 2015 at 9:06 pm Captain Obvious

      DD, it helps so much if they came from good families, where the fathers insisted that they be as cheerful and as virtuous as possible, and had a zero tolerance policy for rudeness or sluttery. [Of course, the argument could be made that it’s all more nature/genetic than nurture/cultural, but I have to feel that having a strong father in the house can go a long way towards turning out worthwhile daughters.]

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  25. on June 15, 2015 at 5:10 pm David

    Low SMV women have no idea what high SMV women do and are only making blind guesses, because it’s impossible to underestimate the amount of real communication that happens among women. Unless you go into negative numbers, and that may even be suitable to describe the games and disinfo.

    If anyone isn’t convinced, take a plunge at one of the “women’s” websites, whether feminist or not, with my hypothesis in mind. No valuable information is ever voluntarily given by one woman to another.

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  26. on June 15, 2015 at 5:18 pm ng85

    This is no different than your average Slut Walk girl or rape hysteric who are usually so ugly you wouldn’t even fuck them consensually, much less by force. By acting like they’re constantly getting “street harassed” or in danger of being sexually assaulted they think it’ll make their SMV rise.

    It’s also projection – They know a man can raise his SMV by lying, so they try and do the same thing. But guys aren’t attracted to women who do the same. A girl could be a retard but if she was hot enough we wouldn’t care.

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    • on June 15, 2015 at 9:08 pm Captain Obvious

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      • on June 16, 2015 at 4:01 pm PimpinBlueStar

        fupa on FLEEEEEEK

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      • on June 16, 2015 at 11:35 pm Tom

        I’ll see your 4 and raise you a 3!

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    • on June 17, 2015 at 4:45 am King

      If your idea of a “4” is Lena Dunham, and if you think a quarter-ton slab of lumpen avoirdupois rises to a “3,” you need to rethink your entire scale. Just as tens really exist, so do ones. Monsters are real, son.

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  27. on June 15, 2015 at 5:26 pm Why Less Attractive Girls Act Bitchy | Reaction Times

    […] Source: Heartiste […]

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  28. on June 15, 2015 at 5:51 pm stuttie

    @ CH & others….I thought the article from this NB3 harpy ties in well with this post.

    http://www.dailylife.com.au/news-and-views/dl-opinion/he-was-just-trying-to-be-friendly-the-many-invalid-excuses-of-manterrupting-20150615-ghohf0.html

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  29. on June 15, 2015 at 7:04 pm duderino

    The question is: do you acknowledge the fat girl and be friendly or is it better to ignore? Conventional pickup wisdom says “the girl is the group and the group is the girl” if you plan on separating with her at the end of the night. But I’ve has a couple biggins that were down right nasty even after I’d gone out of my way to include them. Almost like kindness emboldens there bitchiness.

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    • on June 15, 2015 at 7:48 pm The Other Anonymous

      If low SMV women treat betas badly because of rejection by alphas.

      Then it’s a beta tell to high SMV women if you treat fatties badly.

      Managing fatty’s bitchiness is a demonstration of higher value.

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      • on June 15, 2015 at 9:45 pm corvinus

        Then it’s a beta tell to high SMV women if you treat fatties badly.

        Sure, if you go over the top with being nasty to the fatties directly.

        A better parallel would be to treat fatties with a perfunctory politeness to their face, then mock them when they’re gone. This is pretty much how hotties treat bitter, obsequious lesser betas, but it also has the added benefit in reinforcing the point to the hottie that she had better not let herself go.

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  30. on June 15, 2015 at 7:17 pm Mr Meaner

    A good catch-all response to battle-toad cunts like this is:

    “Yeah, and you’re just what *I’m* looking for too.”

    *Credit to an early Seinfeld episode:

    KRAMER: Oh, look at this one by the bus stop. Jerry, come here. Take a look at this.

    JERRY: I really don’t need to look.

    KRAMER: What a body. Yeeaahh.. that’s for me.

    JERRY: Yeah, and you’re just what *she’s* looking for too…

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  31. on June 15, 2015 at 7:43 pm Lazy Hero

    Ok, I want some opinions on this…

    Happened in Torrance, CA approximately 15 years ago…

    Went to Octoberfest with a couple of friends. One of these guys was an ex-professional boxer, other guy was 6’5 or 6’6 and 350lbs former Big Ten Lineman. Me, I’m much smaller than either.

    Anyhow, we drink, have fun, and on our way out the x-boxer starts chatting up a girl. Didn’t pay much attention. Waited at the exit with the giant. We’re BS’ing with each other. I remember chiding him about his enormous appetite. Then out of nowhere a woman (maybe an LA 6) approaches me and tells me I have a small penis because I’m short. Now, I’d been living in LA for a few years at this time and was used to people being unfriendly, and downright antagonistic for no apparent reason. Even witnessed this behavior perpetrated on others. I theorize its because CA libs don’t grow up getting into actual fights, just outrage tantrums… To continue, I laughed and told her its not that small and its not bothering her so leave me alone. Now, at no time was I flustered by her. I turned back to my friend ignoring her and she continued with the same taunt. So I told her I could show it to her but if I did it was going in one of her orifices. This slowed her down for about a second, and she starts again. Now, my giant friend had had enough. He tells her what a b-c and etc she is. She gets scared, and if you’ve ever seen someone that size get mad it is scary…

    Next,the girl the x-boxer was chatting up comes over and pulls her away and they are gone. The x-boxer is pissed because he thought he could get laid. The giant is still yelling at the crazy wench. I’m standing there shaking my head….

    I’ve analyzed this in the years since. She had a bad experience with a short guy is the best I could come up with. BTW, she was around my height as I remember the incident.

    After reading this post perhaps she was really preempting shutting me down. Her friend getting chatted up was not much more than a 6 either. The x-boxer would f anything, and I do mean anything…

    Any ideas?

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    • on June 15, 2015 at 7:54 pm PA

      Was she drunk? Not much to analyze if so. If she was sober, then that was just wierd.

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    • on June 15, 2015 at 8:00 pm The Other Anonymous

      15 years on – and you’re still mulling this over?

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    • on June 15, 2015 at 8:40 pm shartiste

      sounds like she was acting out because her friend was getting hit on and she wasn’t. assuming her friend was the pretty one, it probably happens all the time. Ex-boxer didn’t disarm the obstacle, so she made herself your problem.

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      • on June 16, 2015 at 8:42 am Sentient

        Yeah – she was cockblocking her friend… A&A this stuff “OMG how did you know! It’s like a wet baby carrot” [taker her hand and pinky] “like this big”.

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    • on June 15, 2015 at 9:11 pm Captain Obvious

      LH, she might have been [probably was?] legitimately mentally ill. And if that’s the case, then thank your lucky stars that you didn’t sleep with her. So much of Game is simply avoiding the overtly crazy evil chicks, and concentrating on the chicks who seem to have some potential.

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    • on June 15, 2015 at 9:13 pm Captain Obvious

      Although if you have to Game her… SHE: “You have a small penis!” YOU: “Whip out your clitoris and I’ll rub my small penis over it and afterwards we’ll compare notes.”

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    • on June 15, 2015 at 10:12 pm Lazy Hero

      Thanks for the replies… And yes, I was mulling it over. Besides freaky sex (good) this was the weirdest thing an out of the blue wench has ever laid on me in a bad way…

      I have noticed over the years an unwarranted anger that some women seem to have for me, and I think its the bemusement I have towards them. If I took them seriously, I’d kill ’em… And the worst anger is if you’ve scorned them, or at least in their muddled mind you have…

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      • on June 16, 2015 at 7:47 am Captain Obvious

        LH, it is ALWAYS better to be hated than to be ignored. If you’re ignored, then the door is slammed shut and locked and barricaded. But if you’re hated, then you’ve already got your foot in the door – in fact, you’re essentially into the vestibule.

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      • on June 16, 2015 at 9:54 am Lazy Hero

        Capt. I concur.

        Another brief story.

        A year or so ago I was at a south FL outdoor bar. Start a conversation with a wench (8). She credentalizes herself by telling me she’s a pharmacist, subtext is for me to trump, instead I say, ‘So you’re a drug dealer.’ Pissed she disagrees and when I’m bemused she sarcastically asks what I do and I tell her I rob banks. She draws a blank and then says she doesn’t believe me. I tell her a nearby bank that will be robbed in a couple/few days and that she will be able to tell people she met a bank robber which was much more interesting than telling them she was an f’ing pharmacist. Priceless. I left her speechless to sit on a nearby bench.

        Her friends show. They look my way as she relates our conversation. One guy, maybe her bf or want to be, gives me a hard look. I smile and hold up my hands, here I am… He does nothing of course.

        They left. She and some look back, I smile and wave goodbye…

        Guarantee I’m never forgotten.

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    • on June 16, 2015 at 7:35 pm disenchantedscholar

      She was trying to get the attention of your tall friend by making fun of you hoping you’d leave him to her. That’s why her expression changed when she realised he was loyal. Source: I am a woman and I’ve seen others pull this stuff.

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  32. on June 16, 2015 at 2:49 am Why Less Attractive Girls Act Bitchy | Truth an...

    […] In a normally functioning social dynamic, less attractive women (and lower status men) behave more deferentially toward their betters than do hotter women (and higher status men) toward their lessers, because the beta of each sex seeks to gain…  […]

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  33. on June 16, 2015 at 8:15 am The Supreme Gentleman

    Rings true. A girl I met at a party last year, who was eager to suck me off that day, was at my friend’s going away party last week. First time I saw her she asked for my number and I never answered her texts. Mind you, this girl is around a hard 5, maybe soft 6, and I’d never give her a second look if she didn’t come up to me in the first place. I happened to walk by her, so to be cordial I said hi as I passed her. In the bitchiest tone she could muster up she said “do I know you?” Lol the bitch was serious. I laughed under my breath and said “I guess not.” Makes sense after this article.

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  34. on June 16, 2015 at 8:35 am Culum Struan

    Game is everywhere. A short vignette.

    In the company cafeteria (big, crowded). Coworker enters (Married HB7 but has some attraction for me – I’m obv not going down that road – she’s too useful at work) comes over to me and is like “Oh hey..you’re here..how’s your day” all smiley. Then she’s like “I actually came in here looking for someone else..need to go”.

    Then I made a mock sad face and was like “Oh you didn’t come here looking for me?? I’m offended”. Even that tiny emotional spike got her eyes to sparkle and she put her hand on my arm and was all like “If I’d known you were here, I’d have definitely come looking”. ..

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  35. on June 16, 2015 at 9:49 am corvinus

    Looks like your fingers got too fat to hit the reply button

    Oh, hey fatso.

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  36. on June 16, 2015 at 2:17 pm Mario

    Would she act bitchy when approached by Leo DiCaprio?

    I got 6/10 orbit who always acts feminine and uber nice. Never flipped out, obeys every instruction I could think of – and that’s 6 months already

    I’d say “high maintenance” almost equals “being bitchy”. It can serve as ego soothing hamsteroid to rationalize bad game; or as indicator (IOD) to unveil the flaws , finesse the craft and rebound to win the set and close the match

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  37. on June 16, 2015 at 4:19 pm PimpinBlueStar

    This is an excellent point that I have been proclaiming for quite some time. This reflection by the OP is very consistent with my experience of several years in the game.

    I took a bootcamp with Cajun many years back, and on a 1 month later consultation call we were going over some pickups I had and I will never forget what he told me….quit thinking you have to “build up” to hotter girls over time and flirt/get with the girls you actually desire.

    Not only did my self esteem arise (Ok..I can compete with the best for the best because I AM in that league) but I truly began to come into self acceptance. The hot girls who did respond to me favorably (that society would say is out of my league…LOL) just confirmed to me that I was doing the right thing. The ones who blew me off (most politely decline my advances rather than harsh shut outs) made me think “haha OH well” and I go about my day knowing that I’m always gonna have a few of those.

    So…in summary, to all my guys out there who are just getting into the game or not getting the types of girls you want, you will feel MUCH BETTER about yourself going after the best no matter if you get blown out or not.

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  38. on June 16, 2015 at 11:48 pm Webe

    Now the score is Jenn-6, Roseanne-7 — she has just catapulted herself into the lead by rejecting rather than accepting you! She is now “better” than Jenn because she is so “superior” now that she has had a chance to pretend that she is too good to dance with an “average” guy.

    Google: Zen “how women keep score”

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  39. on June 17, 2015 at 7:43 am ChokingNurseRatchet

    Fat/ugly women are far more likely to make a false rape accusation.

    While researching false rape case in which the accuser finally admitted that she had lied I must have studied over a hundred news articles. One of the things I noticed was that the vast majority of these nasty bitches were absolutely hideous.

    Men really need to avoid fat/ugly women, not only for the obvious reason (self respect) but for their own safety sake.

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  40. on June 17, 2015 at 9:53 am Haven M.

    possible 6, law student, disfigures guy who hit on her friends.
    http://www.returnofkings.com/63128/disfiguring-a-mans-face-to-the-bone-is-not-considered-a-serious-crime-if-you-have-a-vagina

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  41. on June 17, 2015 at 4:13 pm FooBakka

    Homely girls tend to have no funny bone, relative to comely girls.

    Just an example:

    I live in LA where there’s a major street called La Cienega Boulevard (pronounced “lah-see-en-neg-guh”). To entertain myself, whenever I’m driving down it I always call out “We rollin’ down what’s-up-mah-la-cee-en-nig-ggaaaah’.

    One day I ran into a buddy who was with his 6 female friend. I told him I was just rolling-down-what’s-up-mah-la-cee-en-nigggaaah and they both gave me a “for real?” look. What’s funny is that the buddy would have laughed with me if he weren’t with the girl…

    Anyway, on another occasion I was driving with a smoking hot Brazilian model/actress who was at the time just an acquaintance (now friend) of mine on this street. I of course did my call-out, and guess what? She laughed and told me that was cool.

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  42. on June 24, 2015 at 1:18 am Su Excelencia

    Is this the root cause of feminism?

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