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The Unapologetic, Stalkergirl Creepiness Of Women

July 6, 2015 by CH

The ironic misuse of the “creepy” slander by women toward men is in part a case of psychological projection by the unfairer sex. Commenter “Not Thought Police” explains:

Ahh “Creep”

Never attribute to internal failing that which can be explained by a woman’s inherent need to emotionally project.

Do not pass go. Do not validate. Do not entertain her musings until projection is ruled out first.

This holds true for many facets of femininity but i think in no other place does it hold more weight than the concept of male creepiness:

A woman, in vetting a man, will:

Gossip with friends, look through his private stuff, his books, his music, find out his political leanings to the n’th-degree (from his feminist sensibilities right down to how he feels about trade agreements n shit), how he feels toward his mother, how much he earns, is he carrying a mental illness, can he provide?, does he look and act like Gosling? Can he sing like that dude from Coldplay or at least do something notable so she doesn’t look like she’s just dating Dave, the accountant? Is he strong..but not so strong that he cannot be controlled? Is he intelligent..but not so intelligent that he might win in an argument? Is he confident, but not so much that he might attract the attentions of other girls (not that she’d be jealous or anything because women aren’t creepy like that) Is he articulate but not so much that he might outshine her beaming personality? Is he cool but not so cool that he’d make her look uncool. That’d never do!

Contrast this to the creepy, rapey Man: What’s her rack like? Is she kinda half normal?

Tell me who is really the creepy one here?

Here’s an uncomfortable truth: The Surveillance State is women’s natural operating procedure. But we autonomically give women a pass for being precociously creepy toward men within the field of view of the female Eye of Ovum because… well, read about the Fundamental Premise.

Of course, women have good evo-bio reasons for being creepier than men (and equally good reasons for fooling themselves about their own creepster instincts), but that doesn’t mean men have to roll over and play the women’s game the way women want it played. Correction… the way women “””want””” it played; triple-quoted to indicate that women may consciously want obeisance to their rules from men, but subconsciously, where messages are sent direct to the vagina, women want men who don’t do what they “””want”””.

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  1. on July 6, 2015 at 7:55 pm The Unapologetic, Stalkergirl Creepiness Of Women | Manosphere.com

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  3. on July 6, 2015 at 8:09 pm bryanpaulrouleau

    Creepy comments I’ve received from girlfriends:
    “I looked up pictures of your ex.”
    “Tell me about this girl you work with.”
    “Where do you think you’re going at 11:30 at night?”

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  4. on July 6, 2015 at 8:17 pm jr

    well, then she’ll definitely find her prospect on the sex offenders registry because that’s where we’re all headed: http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/28/opinion/sunday/judith-shulevitz-regulating-sex.html

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  5. on July 6, 2015 at 8:22 pm Will

    @ch, I wanted your thoughts on this b/c I’ve seen it work with a couple of (now married) studly buddies of mine: seducing a girl and telling her that you’ll be abstaining from sex for a certain period of time. Something along the lines of: if we can abstain from sex and love and trust each other for the time without it etc. then that’s powerful etc etc.
    Thoughts?

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    • on July 7, 2015 at 11:02 am corvinus

      Depends upon how attractive she sees you. If you’re a beta dweeb, she’ll just start hunting for strange. If she actually thinks you’re hot (as your “studly buddies” apparently are), it might work, especially since you’d be taking away her “sex-as-weapon” card.

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  6. on July 6, 2015 at 8:29 pm coolcono

    I had creepy past her prime carousel rider hijack my Facebook. She made comments and I was like…. ummmm….. Unfriend as fast as I can.

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    • on July 7, 2015 at 9:20 am corvinus

      I actually find Facebook a useful tool. If a girl likes you, she will stalk your Facebook profile. If you never stalk anyone else, you’ll get the girls with crushes on you at the top of your searches.

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      • on July 7, 2015 at 10:38 am Anonymous

        elaborate a little?

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      • on July 7, 2015 at 10:57 am corvinus

        Either go to the search bar at the top of the page, and type a single letter (“A”, “B”, etc.), or click here:

        https://www.facebook.com/search/me/friends

        The search bar also displays non-friends as well as friends; the search/me/friends page displays only friends but in their complete order.

        If you have been stalking other people, they’ll also show up at the top of either searches, but if you stop looking at their pages, the searches will shift themselves into the correct order over the course of a few weeks.

        Caveat: Note that the “Friends” tab on your Timeline does not give a good list, as it puts too much weight on factors other than their stalking you.

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      • on July 7, 2015 at 1:48 pm nathan

        I think that also works with the “find friends” feature. I’ve noticed several clients (who I’m not friends with, who I have no mutual friends with, who I’ve never searched for, who don’t live in the same town, and who I didn’t go to school with) pop up high on the list.

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      • on July 7, 2015 at 2:43 pm coolcono

        I had crazy girls add me in college. They definitely liked me. I was pretty oblivious.

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      • on July 7, 2015 at 3:37 pm Mofo

        A few weeks ago I pass on the street the hot teenage daughter of a divorced mom I used to see. I have guitar in hand (on my way to a gig) and she is with two equally hot friends. We pretend not to recognize each other. But sure enough–BAM–ten minutes later she’s at the top of my “People You May Know” feed for the first time ever. Stalk away, ladies.

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      • on July 7, 2015 at 9:13 pm corvinus

        @nathan @Mofo

        Dunno about “Find Friends” / “People You May Know”.

        It is definitely true that in a few cases they show up when they stalk you — an incident very similar to Mofo’s happened to me a few months ago. I attempted to friend the girl, but she rejected it — buuuut she has gotten stuck at/near the top of my search engine results along with the girls with crushes on me, and IRL continually flirts with me and uses my name, etc. (Yes, they sometimes play hard to get by not being Facebook friends, which is why you have to also use the search bar.)

        But in most cases, I’m not sure why they show up on the People You May Know list. Usually, they seem to simply be friends of people you added recently.

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  7. on July 6, 2015 at 8:31 pm TC

    And preemptively using the “creepy” label against women makes them go ballistic. Hehe.

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    • on July 7, 2015 at 11:04 am corvinus

      Like calling a gay dude a “sodomite”.

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  8. on July 6, 2015 at 8:36 pm tspark156

    Want, there it is the favourite childlike word of the modern female almost always preceded by “I”. Fuck what they want, give them what they need.

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    • on July 7, 2015 at 7:42 am Captain Obvious

      I wanna hit this from a slightly different angle – what I’m seeing now in the University chicks – I think that “Not Thought Police” is correct to come at this from the psychological/psychiatric angle – but along the lines of your “I want”, I’m sensing two things in the Universities now, vis-à-vis the cultural pollution by Evil Psychiatry Inc and the Gramscian Cocoon of Anti-Reality within which the Universities exist: 1) The social-ladder-climbing hyper-credentialism nonsense is so all-pervasive that you have to DHV by some bizarre group-think name-dropping credential-mentioning nose-in-the-air down-talking set of secret code words and pass phrases so as to “prove” that you’ve got the HV. 2) The Gramscian Deconstructionism, which, for the last several decades, Rush Limbaugh has been calling “Outcomes Based Education”, has rendered these University Chicks UTTERLY TALENTLESS. I get to talking to them, and my Negs [both Soft and Hard] go right over their heads because they’re so ill-edumakated that they don’t even realize that they’ve just been Neg’ed. I’m seeing this everywhere – just complete morons who think that they’ve got talent and that they’re entitled to grow up to be the Queen of the World.

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      • on July 7, 2015 at 7:49 am Captain Obvious

        tldr; == I can tell from just a few sentences in a conversation what their IQ’s are, but these little “I WANT” Cluster B nutjobs [to include the frigging Professorettes themselves], from within the Gramscian Cocoon of Anti-Reality, need to see “Assistant Vice Chancellor for Horsesh!t and Nonsense” after your name in order for the Display of Higher Value hormonal response to be triggered in their hindbrains.

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      • on July 7, 2015 at 7:53 am Captain Obvious

        And if you want to “Game” these Blue State basket cases from the Gramscian Cocoon of Anti-Reality, then pay attention to what YaReally has been saying: The old Openers and Negs and DHVs – anything subtle or elegant or clever – they just don’t work anymore. You need to thrust in the shiv immediately, and you need to keep twisting it and mis-directing it and feinting it and “layering” it.

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      • on July 7, 2015 at 8:17 am Captain Obvious

        Which in turn begs the question: Why would anyone want to get involved with these crazy chicks? The parallel phenomenon which I’m seeing is that the feminine Christian Moms WITH CHILDREN [both young & also older but MILFish] are still wonderful conversationalists who respond well to classical Game, while, at the same time, the crazy chicks from the Gramscian Cocooon of Anti-Reality [from 18yo freshwomen all the way through the HB7/HB8 professorette chicks in their mid- to late-30s] are uniformly CHILDLESS.

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      • on July 7, 2015 at 8:30 am Captain Obvious

        I think that Philip Longman’s “The Return of Patriarchy” thesis needs a “The Return of Femininity” duality to it. And I don’t think that Evil Psychiatry Inc and the Gramsci Project, as they were ramming through Griswold and Roe and Outcomes Based Edumakashun and The War Against Boys, realized quite how quickly they would un-breed themselves out of existence. And, in turn, this explains Gay Lettuce Bacon & Tomato’s desperate need to seize control of the culture and enforce a uniformly obeisant proselytization upon us: They’ve got to recruit new members, because Teh Crazies ain’t having babies anymore.

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      • on July 7, 2015 at 8:46 am Captain Obvious

        WAAYYYYY tldr; == If you wanna dip it in Teh Crazy, then get the in Shiv immediately, and keep thrusting in the Shiv, and misdirecting and feinting the Shiv, and “layer” Shiv upon Shiv upon Shiv. But then Kurt Vonnegut’s “You are Who You Pretend to Be” thesis kicks in – if you pretend to be this Dark Triad Psychopathic Monster for long enough, then are you going to actually become this Dark Triad Psychopathic Monster? At what point is Teh Crazy Snatch worth the price you have to pay in order to experience yourself inside of it?

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      • on July 7, 2015 at 9:36 am CarpeOro

        CO,

        My guess is decaf may help. That or remove the Red Bull IV.

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      • on July 7, 2015 at 10:07 am Captain Obvious

        Carpe, when was the last time you talked to a University chick? To the extent that our Elites are having any children at all, they are rapidly diverging into almost a different species than normal folk. They are setting up credentialistic and psycho-socially symbolic barriers to entry which would make these “National Societies of Royal and Noble Ancestry” green with envy. Yet these Elites are UTTERLY TALENTLESS HACKS. Think of the hideously idiotic simpleton, Chelsea Clinton, who got the six-figure salary from MSNBC or the five-figure payday from U of Missouri-Kansas City, as bribes for access to her family’s power. It’s nuts. And all the crazy chicks in the Universities now want in on the ruse. Again: TRY TALKING TO THEM. And see how far you get. It’s either Shiv upon Shiv upon Shiv, or else be laughed at and labeled a Creepy Stalker Dude.

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      • on July 7, 2015 at 10:13 am Captain Obvious

        BTW, apparently Chelsea Clinton’s utterly talentless Slithery Eskimo Reptilian husband just lost his shirt by betting on Greek bonds. But not to worry, his Slithery Eskimo Reptilian cousins at the Fed will wire him a few billion to paper over his losses. Once you’ve mastered the credentialism and the psycho-social symbolism, you’re a member of the club, and you get the free money for life. Which I guess is what all Teh Crazy Snatch wants so desperately now – to become a member of the club. tldr; == When it comes to Teh Crazy, SHIV OR DIE.

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      • on July 7, 2015 at 10:31 am Experienced Father

        Captain Obvious,

        The Greeks are small beer.

        The Chinese have suffered a stock market crash that has wiped out $3.2 trillion from the value of Chinese shares in just three weeks. This represents 29% of total stock market value…and the downward slide has not stopped.

        The Chinese police are now stamping out stock market related bad news from social media the behind the Great Firewall — including suicides over market losses — by deleting it as fast as they can.

        The Australians — who sell most of their commodity exports to China — are getting panicky.

        See:
        http://www.news.com.au/finance/economy/chinese-chaos-worse-than-greece/story-fnu2pycd-1227430761673

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      • on July 7, 2015 at 10:34 am Experienced Father

        Captain Obvious,

        The Greeks are small beer.

        The Chinese have suffered a stock market crash that has wiped out $3.2 trillion from the value of Chinese shares in just three weeks. This represents 29% of total stock market value…and the downward slide has not stopped.

        The Chinese police are now stamping out stock market related bad news from social media the behind the Great Firewall — including suicides over market losses — by deleting it as fast as they can.

        The Australians — who sell most of their commodity exports to China — are getting panicky.

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      • on July 7, 2015 at 10:41 am Captain Obvious

        And whereas it took about a millennium for e.g. the modern states of England/Scotland/Netherlands/Belgium/France/Germany to differentiate themselves, and a similar miellnnium for the Anglos and Saxons and Normans to duke it out and the Henrys VII and VIII to eventually emerge victorious – all circa 1500AD – I feel like hyper-credentialism and assortative mating are creating a new nation within a nation, with a new Ruling Elite, that speaks a language of unintelligible politically correct credentialistic gibberish, which is evolving before our very eyes, not over a course of a millennium or more, but over the course of only a few short DECADES.

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      • on July 7, 2015 at 10:45 am Captain Obvious

        And getting back to slaying the poontang, I don’t ever tell these chicks about my #1-in-the-World Ivy League credentials – my Game has always been Tall Dark and Handsome Mysterious Stranger. Only nowadays, without explicitly spelling out your #1-in-the-World Ivy League credentials to these nutjob freak show simpletons, Tall Dark and Handsome Mysterious Stranger has devolved into Creep Stalker Dude.

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      • on July 7, 2015 at 11:04 am James Blonde

        what color are you?

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      • on July 7, 2015 at 11:14 am Captain Obvious

        And to the extent that we Tall Dark and Handsome Mysterious Strangers live in the actual world as it actually exists, whereas university/elitist chicks are all blithely floating around within the Gramscian Cocoon of Anti-Reality, you could argue that, vis-à-vis their cloistered insanity of hypercredentialistic gibberish, WE ARE CREEPY. In which case, Agree and Amplify.

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      • on July 7, 2015 at 2:27 pm The Spirit Within

        11 fucking comments from this lunatic. Clogging up the thread.

        Slap a sandwich board on him.

        Captain Obvious, double your dosage.

        [CH: tsw for once i agree. c.o. (who has sockpuppeted under numerous prior handles), please take a rest from commenting. you’re spinning out of control. quality over quantity. your message will have more punch that way.]

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      • on July 7, 2015 at 2:30 pm meistergedanken

        At least he uses punctuation, unlike gunslingergregori.

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      • on July 7, 2015 at 5:40 pm tspark156

        I’ve taken the time to read through all that you have posted in reply and what you have said is valid and is relevant to what I originally posted. I’m flattered that my two lines of text inspired you to illicit so much by way of conversation, and quite frankly I wish all the people I am paid to instruct responded as fervently as you have here.
        What CH advises is worth your consideration, being concise and embracing brevity will serve you very effectively. Distilling down your points will give them much more clout. Don’t run there to fuck one, walk down there and fuck em all.

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      • on July 8, 2015 at 2:02 pm th0ughtp0lice

        I agree with pretty much everything you say Captain Obvs re: The great divide between the feminist fore-brain in most girls these days and her latent, woman hind-brain. What a girl “wants” and what a girl “””wants””” are as you say completely at odds.

        I think what we can safely say is, all girls are pretty much indoctrinated (into a feminist regime) to greater or lesser degrees these days. You talked about the compromise we must make in order to game these chicks; the sociopath, or “the dark triad traits” (as you called them) that must come out in us in order to convince them of our credentials, our love of all humans, animals, races and genders whilst simultaneously convincing her she might just gush tonight.

        …Annd simultaneously not feeling like we are becoming a sociopath in the process.

        A tough gig.

        Lately i’ve begun to embrace the inner dark triad traits. For I also know i am no Sociopath either. I know that the love that i can give a girl outshines what any kale-munching beta can offer her (and no i’m not just talking about cock here). And as for her little forays into safe secure bisexuality, i know those urges pale in comparison to what i can offer her too.
        A sociopath who is incapable of love or being loved is an oxymoron.

        Feminism – or a Woman’s fore-brained feminist credentials – is just to me another Shit Test. To which i respond like all good PUA’s should…Keep Calm And Carry On.

        But fuckit yes it’s tough. Probably the toughest Shit Test there is. But once we can break past it, then there’s really nothing left they can throw at us.

        If we accept that all girls are indoctrinated (which most of us do) then we accept that we all must compromise our anti-feminist beliefs to greater our lesser degrees at some stage to get to the sweet tang.

        Lately, i’ve just said fuckit, I even been thinking i could in theory marry a rad-fem chick and have her craving my cock (and me craving her Vagina) by throwing her metaphorical kittens from time to time.

        It’s not called the battle of the sexes for nothing.
        All girls are feminists.
        All girls are feminists.
        We didn’t create those conditions. So to feel dissonance about gaming under those conditions is almost as preposterous as saying golfers should feel dissonant for playing while its windy. Or surgeons should feel dissonant for cutting people open

        All girls are feminists.
        All girls are feminists.
        I’m still honing my game in this regard. I’m currently gaming a Rad Fem. It’s not easy; many many false positives, many many “ignores”. But a few rewarding rewards too. Watch their feminist ideals melt to the sound of splish splash splish.

        Annyways thoughts, criticisms most welcome.

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  9. on July 6, 2015 at 8:39 pm cptnemo2013

    Reblogged this on MGTOW 2.0.

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  10. on July 6, 2015 at 8:58 pm walawala

    The latest one from the crazy ex…who used to stalk me by showing up a parties I was at and staring…if I reacted, she’d storm out and say “bye”…so I just ignored her. That would make her stare more then storm out. She just suddenly showed up a month ago at a kind of dance practice night very late when I was there with another girl…I didn’t realize she was there until I caught her staring at us…I ignored, when I looked up again she was gone.

    Finally…two weeks ago I was djing a party. She showed up with some married dude. I ignored….she stayed until the very end trying to get my attention—walking by the dj booth for no reason. I wouldn’t have noticed except it became so blatant.

    Another girl I broke up with years ago…just showed up at my place at 7am ready to make me breakfast…

    If I ever did any of those things…I’d probably be called out for all sorts of creepy stalking behaviours…

    Best advice…ignore.

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  11. on July 6, 2015 at 9:18 pm Bray

    Organized a lunch date with this 8/10 little 18y/o. She agreed to meet me at X at 11:30 today, last night. Was all sweet smiley faces and shit. Get to today. I message her saying see you soon. Never replied so I didn’t leave.

    Her: okay so I just woke up !
    Me: lol..
    Her: sorry I thought I put an alarm on
    Me: would’ve looked like a fool if I actually went there hey ha
    Her: did you?
    Me: nah you never replied so didn’t leave
    Her: sorry
    Me: -10 points for laziness. You can organise the next one
    Her: sure thing!

    Reckon I handled this well? I was sort of pissed off but didn’t want to show it obviously. She’s replying within a minute of my messages so good sign, should I keep talking to her and wait for her to re-organise or ignore her for a while

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    • on July 7, 2015 at 11:10 am Culum Struan

      Bray – Not bad, but some points could be better.

      Good: Didn’t come across whiny or annoyed, didn’t chase her with followups, didn’t actually go there.

      To improve:

      1. Lunch date – why?? To quote YaReally, no one wants to have sex on a full stomach and she’s not worth the investment till then. Have drinks or some kind of light fun activity. Or coffee if you must.

      2. Don’t qualify yourself by offering the info you didn’t turn up. In your frame, OBVIOUSLY you didn’t go without confirmation. Only say it if she asks.

      3. Standard tip to avoid lowering value by confirming dates – text her a couple hours before that you will be 15 min late. It’s a confirmation but doesn’t look like it (there are some more tips if you check Ripp’s and YaReally’s text game in his archives).

      4. Never make plans more than 72 hours in advance – massive flakiness (I know you didn’t do that – just for the future)

      5. Don’t take this personally – standard young girl flakiness plus she’s not massively attracted to you. I’d up the asshole game on this one and be more aloof (they will still flake even if they are interested though – it’s a test). When I am on Dating Blitz mode with online girls (who I’ve not met before), I always schedule 2 girls a day – 6 and 9-10pm. It’s very rare for me to have two dates – one almost always flakes. She apologized and texted you herself so there is some attraction there, but not enough.

      6. Standard Ripp method for flakes – ignore for 3 days whatever she does and then re-engage and build attraction again and ask her out. Personally if there’s a flake a second time I dump her. Not worth the effort. Your whole vibe should be “I don’t care that you flaked, I got a Playmate to come over and give me a BJ instead, so this is all amusing to me”.

      7. Don’t waste your time letting her organize the next one. She won’t. Even women who like you will generally not take the initiative – this girl definitely doesn’t have enough attraction to do it. I’d say just ignore her texts for a few days, then re-engage, ideally do some flirting to pump her state and get her out ASAP (TELL her, don’t ask her).

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    • on July 7, 2015 at 11:11 am Culum Struan

      Bray – long post in mod with various tips – overall, not bad attitude but several tips on improving.

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    • on July 7, 2015 at 11:23 am Anonymous

      Yeah, that’ll work, but disengage for now. radio silence. let her reopen any kind of conversation and take it from there.

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  12. on July 6, 2015 at 9:21 pm theasdgamer

    Back when I was separated, a woman actually asked me where my wife was staying. I told her that that question was nosy.

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  13. on July 6, 2015 at 9:32 pm theprivateman

    My second ex-wife at 45 years old routinely went through my wallet looking for receipts… she also snooped my phone… my Internet browsing history… I think she even checked the odometer of my vehicle… The whole thing was ugly and sad.

    Yeah, creepy as fuck. Hence, she’s an ex.

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  14. on July 6, 2015 at 9:34 pm whorefinder

    tell me again why we allowed them to vote again?

    legal rape!

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    • on July 7, 2015 at 6:28 am theasdgamer

      Suffrage rape!

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  15. on July 6, 2015 at 9:37 pm tteclod

    “Is he confident, but not so much that he might attract the attentions of other girls…”

    I adore the perceptive comments here. An oasis from hive mind hysterical insanity overlooking the obvious.

    …also, “women want men who don’t do what they ””want”” ,” applies extra to jealousy. Never forget Skittles guy. You can never go wrong inducing jealousy and longing. That, and doing exactly the opposite of whatever a woman expects.

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  16. on July 6, 2015 at 10:03 pm Benson

    … women may consciously want obeisance to their rules from men, but subconsciously, where messages are sent direct to the vagina, women want men who don’t do what they “””want”””.

    Internalizing that sentence is the key to a satisfying love life.

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    • on July 7, 2015 at 10:02 am walawala

      @Benson here’s a text exchange that illustrates that. It’s the 27 year old I was banging for a while until she displayed a little less enthusiasm to a text so I soft-nexted her for 3 months…wrote a ping text: “hey, kidnapped?” She waited a month (until yesterday) to reply. This is how it goes:

      Her: I was in Mars

      Me: Thought it was in Uranus

      Her: Went there last month (clearly not getting the pun)

      Me: Spank your ass

      Her; You can’t

      Me: who said I wanted to?

      Her; OK

      Me: would rather fuck you

      Her; ur crazy

      Me: That’s what you like about me

      Her: Not exactly

      Me: right. One thing I can’t stop thinking about…

      her: is?

      I describe in graphic detail banging her

      Her: I was hoping for 0.1 second that u will say something that’s not sex-related

      Me: No you weren’t

      Her; How could I expect that? lol

      Me: I’m full of surprises

      Her; Wrong for me to talk to us again. Goodbye, take care

      At this point I send her a graphic voice message

      Her: Seems like a script

      Me: Then play your part

      Her: DOn’t tell me what to do

      Me: Blah blah blah

      6 hours later…

      Her: Miss you

      WTF??? She loves the banter and my not taking her crap.

      I haven’t replied…next is me to set up logistics. This girl has a really weird tattoo and likes me spanking her with a belt…she gets nuts…I just deflect shit tests or disappear…she comes back. This is a lesson for newbies worried….you have to text these girls like this is the last time you’ll ever see them.

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      • on July 7, 2015 at 10:48 am Culum Struan

        Wala this is interesting. I am steadily improving my text game – especially by learning to hit the point where they want more and then stopping replies to let them chase a bit. But I think this kind of exchange is the next step for me – I get blow offs regularly because of the number of girls I text, but I usually stop when I do.

        I need to push harder past the “stop texting me” type replies because they can often still be redeemed (I don’t think it would work though on online girls who haven’t met you in person yet – you haven’t built enough value).

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      • on July 7, 2015 at 12:28 pm Benson

        @Benson here’s a text exchange that illustrates that.

        Ballsy. The challenge is avoiding overkill. It’s a fine line, and it shifts depending on the girl. But you definitely communicated the right attitude: “this is what I want, take it or leave it.”

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      • on July 7, 2015 at 12:55 pm Culum Struan

        Sorry that should say “I stop when I get the Stop Texting thing from them”.

        I am beginning to think that if they really want you to stop texting they will delete you from their phone (you can tell on Whatsapp because their profile picture will go blank – it doesn’t actually stop you texting them but it is a useful, clear signal)

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      • on July 7, 2015 at 3:57 pm walawala

        @Culum/Benson The “stop texting me” vibe has to be apparent. In this case, the girl has very frequently just gotten nasty…So I can read her better.

        Normally I’d stop as “Goodbye” but the “blah blah blah” borrowed from Krauser has become my response to nonsense or bad behavior—it’s not defensive, it shows I don’t care, it’s not judgmental to them….it shows I don’t care.

        I’ll shoot her a text about meeting up…that would be my “Stop text” point if I don’t get a positive response.

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  17. on July 6, 2015 at 10:16 pm disenchantedscholar

    Reblogged this on Philosophies of a Disenchanted Scholar and commented:
    Totally disagree for once, a woman’s sense of creep is based on rape risk. This is why men don’t really understand it, since women are the physically weaker sex. Sure, some women lie and overuse the term creepy when it doesn’t apply, but changing the word woman to include men in dresses doesn’t apply to normal people either.

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    • on July 6, 2015 at 10:33 pm Captain Obvious

      But it’s only rape if she decides afterwards that she doesn’t like you. And it’s why some guys can get away with the rough stuff, whereas other guys can’t: Gina Tinglezzzlolzzz or Sing Sing. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sing_Sing

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      • on July 7, 2015 at 5:57 pm disenchantedscholar

        The feminist definition of rape isn’t real rape, it’s post-promiscuity regret.

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    • on July 6, 2015 at 10:34 pm PWN

      Then why do women call nice guys creepy?

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      • on July 6, 2015 at 10:45 pm disenchantedscholar

        They’re lying. They’re trying to raise their own value.

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      • on July 9, 2015 at 11:52 am Not Thought Police

        “Then why do women call nice guys creepy?”

        Projection projection projection.
        The Nice Guy is genuinely a Nice Guy, (who is The Feminist Dream if you read any of their texts) …problem is he does nothing for her gina-tingles, so she must find a way to rationalize not dating him.

        Nice Guy [tm] was a really effective way of doing that.
        It’s quite Orwellian if you think about it “Nice is Bad”

        But mainly it’s Mammalian.

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    • on July 7, 2015 at 12:21 am anonymous99

      Do women you are dating search through your phone and social accounts because they are judging rape potential? They feel entitled to know everything about anybody and then make excuses if caught. They creep and they run from accountablity

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      • on July 7, 2015 at 1:33 am disenchantedscholar

        True, but men do this as well. Entitlement is the same thing as creepiness, is it? More a symptom of the Internet era. A man would be wise to Google a potential date, for example, in case of rape accusations or rabid feminism.

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      • on July 7, 2015 at 8:39 am JironGhrad

        Except that quality men don’t do those things. The reality regarding men and social media/phone snooping is that the higher the value the smaller the footprint. I post, on average, less than once a year to my social media accounts; and if you really want to drive a chick bonkers, use an odd number for your phone’s password. In the age of 4-digit pins, a 7 numeral unlock code is king.

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  18. on July 6, 2015 at 10:34 pm Anonymous

    here’s a cute story from facebook:

    “Just broke up a cat fight at the Kipling Station Subway platform. This 16 year-old looking white girl who’s hanging out with a couple black girls was cussing these other two white chicks out who were just sitting on a bench waiting for the subway to arrive… She was accusing them of thinking they’re black just by the way they looked and dressed, saying, “Why you hoes think you black? You ain’t black trick. Like fuck yo, lose those shoes and those fitted’s! Stop acting like you black, ho” The two girls were ignoring her, not giving the other girl the satisfaction… She kept rambling and eventually walked up to one of the girls and knocked off the girls hat. Meanwhile her two black friends were running around the platform laughing and yelling “Oh shit, tell that bitch who we is” n shit… Some classic World Star behaviour… I was listening to music minding my own business till I saw the girl knock off the hat. I popped out a headphone and I’m like, “Listen, these girls are just trying to get to where ever they’re going. They don’t need a white trash girl like you telling them they’re not what they seem. Like why are you letting a strangers appearance get to you? Like god dammit, you’re the trashiest thing I’ve ever seen. Stop acting like you’re a born and raised hood rat with a big game. When I first saw you I thought man, I bet even her parents are disappointed with her, but hey, I didn’t get in your face about it cause you know what? People go on with their day and don’t waste time with stupid shit. I let the people that actually care about you handle it. But the way you’re carrying on, it doesn’t look like anybody gives you the time of day.” She took a few seconds to figure out what to say so in the meantime, I popped my earbuds back in. But instead of learning a lesson and walking away, she and her two friends got in my face, grabbed and pulled out my headphones daring me to hit them and to keep talking. You know the usual white trash hood rat protocol… I’m just like, “It’s Monday evening, just move the fuck on and don’t sweat stupid shit. Like seriously I don’t have time for your fucking bullshit. Get the fuck out and go home or go where ever people can fucking tolerate you and grow up.” The train finally arrived but they were blocking me from getting through the doors and shoving me back. Thankfully a TTC worker saw them being a nuisance and escorted them away from the two girls and I. I turned to the two girls and I’m like, “Sorry, I just fucking hate bullies. Enjoy the rest of your day!” They kindly said thank you and sorry you had to do that… I replied saying, “No sweat, I just hate seeing people be treated like garbage.” I popped back in my headphones and we both moved on.

    The trash that exists in this world makes me sick.”

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    • on July 7, 2015 at 7:58 am Lash

      “Just broke up a cat fight at the Kipling Station Subway platform.”

      I got this far and thought: Ahh, of course. Toronto.

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  19. on July 6, 2015 at 10:45 pm Walter E Kurtz

    My ex would do all sorts of creepy shit when we were together. She followed all the social media of girls I worked around.

    She sent me random photos of girls who she found out where in the bar and said not to speak with them.

    When I was like lol why, she sends a photo with said random girl and a previous other ex of mine.

    It was all good though as I just used those stories to doc myself around other girls is hit on

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    • on July 6, 2015 at 10:46 pm Walter E Kurtz

      Dhv myself

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    • on July 6, 2015 at 11:43 pm walawala

      My crazy ex still shows up at events I’m at…in one case recently she showed up at an event I was at with a girl I was seeing…it was weird because there would have been no reason for her to show up at this thing unless someone told her I was there…she stared. I just caught her out of the corner of my eye. When I looked again she was gone…weird.

      A few weeks ago while I was djing, she showed up with some beta orbiter she was deliberately parading around me…I ignored.

      The fact is that these girls who do these creepy things…are mixed up….they don’t really know what they want from you…they want attention.. They don’t want me moving on.

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      • on July 7, 2015 at 10:15 am theasdgamer

        Cosign. They will treat you badly and be hurt that you ignore them, because they are silly girls.

        If they apologized like human beings ought with appropriate restitution, then maybe the Next wouldn’t be permanent. But they are silly girls.

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  20. on July 6, 2015 at 11:38 pm Gott Mit Uns

    Men ought to be as discriminating. She may have a nice rack and be half-normal, but into the trash she can go if she’s never Stormfront’d.

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  21. on July 6, 2015 at 11:39 pm The Unapologetic, Stalkergirl Creepiness Of Women | Reaction Times

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  22. on July 7, 2015 at 1:07 am superslaviswife

    Stalking in men indicates fixation on her, which is undesirable to most women unless he is literally her perfect man in which case it’s just because they’re very well suited to each other. Stalking in women indicates a need for social approval, which is fine by most women besides extreme introverts and countercultural types. It’s part of the law of attraction, really.

    [CH: nah. stalking by women is also fixation. in fact, it’s even more pronounced fixation than stalking by men, because it takes a lot of alpha male pull to make a woman cross the stalker line out of desperate love.]

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    • on July 7, 2015 at 6:22 am Greg Eliot

      That hamster wheel resembles more a Mobius strip.

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      • on July 7, 2015 at 8:41 am JironGhrad

        +1

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      • on July 7, 2015 at 10:16 am superslaviswife

        It’s just how the female mind generally works. But it also fits in seamlessly with the needy/independent gender dichotomy. You don’t need to condone it to understand it.

        Think about it this way: what sort of men obsess over one woman? Men without options. What sort of women obsess over one man? Women looking at an Alpha.

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      • on July 8, 2015 at 5:09 am Greg Eliot

        Riiiiiiiiiiiiiight… both Arthur and Lancelot had no options. lzozlzozlzolzolzozlozlozlozlo

        Dearie, I know it’s hard to fathom for a woman, but men have this romantic streak deep in their psyche and a belief in Love… whether for one woman, one country, or one ideal.

        Often to the detriment of themselves and the entire community that surround them.

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  23. on July 7, 2015 at 1:47 am becausenonsc

    Don’t mean to be an ass but most comments here are way off.
    Women do their ‘investigative work’ (and really enjoy doing it!.. a clue that it’s an evolved adaptation) in order to *asses the status of a man*. That’s it.

    For “social approval”? what??

    If men could get away with appearing high status just by convincingly lying, they would. So women do their investigative work. This is why they gossip, they establish a social network to gossip in order to rank men by status, and absolutely love doing it. It gives them pleasure, as any evolved adaptation does.

    This is why women hate men telling them how great they (men) are, like going on about your job and how successful you are. No worries, she will do her own due diligence, which will be much more trustworthy to her, and great fun to do as well! lol

    This is what women talk about endlessly. That guy, vs that other guy, but that other one is better at this than this other one; they try to uncover everything about social relations, as to very accurately asses the status of men, to inform their choices.

    It’s so important to asses men’s status accurately that they’ll lie about how they don’t gossip or aren’t nosy but then gossip and spy all day.
    Not only they can rationalize after the fact. The brain itself works on a ‘need to know basis’. Your brain keeps they important stuff away your consciousness. If the brain left things like attraction, lust etc to you, you might screw up!, so it doesn’t, you don’t even know about it, you simply rationalize it after the fact.
    The more important the behavior, the less conscious it is.. and you have no say in this. Would you want to overthink killing that tiger when it attacks you? No, you wouldn’t. Same with all other important behaviors, your brain doesn’t trust your conscious part with it.
    Is it any surprise then that women portray themselves as saints but are incorrigible gossips??

    [CH: here’s another untidy fact about women: if she falls for you, she’ll ignore any red flags and rationalize away any of your flaws she later discovers.]

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    • on July 7, 2015 at 5:30 am blogster

      Pretty much spot on. Good analysis.

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    • on July 7, 2015 at 6:25 am Greg Eliot

      Ah, the sweet voice of Sanity. Much obliged.

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      • on July 7, 2015 at 10:48 am becausenonsc

        If anyone wants proof that women gossip to asses men’s status look at the definition of the Bechdel test, which is passed:
        “when two women talk about something else than men”!

        Jesus! What more proof is needed!. That is a tacit admission that men is what women will talk about when left alone (men, or other indirect topics like grooming etc.)

        CH: you are absolutely right, and the irrational behavior that follows is striking compared with the coldness with which they vet.
        This is why it’s pointless to take things seriously at the beginning, best to let it pretty much all slide, have a laugh, and start holding her accountable of her actions and words only after the actual bonding has occurred.

        Big fan of the blog, btw.

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      • on July 7, 2015 at 11:09 am becausenonsc

        Very nice of you. Really enjoyed reading your comments here.

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      • on July 7, 2015 at 11:09 am becausenonsc

        @Greg Eliot: Very nice of you. Really enjoyed reading your comments here.

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    • on July 7, 2015 at 11:01 am Anonymous

      A woman will ‘research’ you by whatever means she can – as if it is her perogative – is no less creepy than a man standing in the bushes watching a woman undress through her bedroom window. In either case – the person isn’t working on mutual attraction – they’re just masterbating. Worse in the woman’s case – cause she won’t initiate – she’ll sit there wondering why you haven’t – and when you don’t – she’ll go mental and start talking down about you.

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      • on July 7, 2015 at 11:17 am becausenonsc

        @Anonymous: The *big* difference between a man and a woman gossiping is the “right to reproduce”.
        If you look to evolutionary history, ~80% of women reproduced and ~40% of men reproduced. That means that pretty much all women have the birth right to reproduce, whereas only a minority of men do (to quote FRDevlin the unusually attractive or unusually successful).

        Women may not be aware of it, but their behavior clearly indicates that they are adapted to this imbalance. Gossiping about men is something you can do when you can *choose*. Typical men, who pretty much can’t choose, are considered impolite or worse for gossiping, comparing or spying on women etc, because they are considered not to have an automatic birth right to reproduce. They are overstepping their rights.

        There is really nothing we can do about this, since it’s evolved. But that doesn’t mean we should be reinforcing the imbalance. You can’t reverse the biology, but you can enhance the positives and manage the negatives.

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      • on July 7, 2015 at 2:33 pm Anonymous

        Whether a women’s prying into your life is some mechanism of evolutionary biology or acting out on some Cluster B personality disorder – it’s still outside the sphere of intimate courtship – so it’s creepy.

        I’ve been stalked by women I was intimate with – I’ve caught women (who’ve outright refused offers of platonic friendship) actively ‘researching’ my life – and I’ve known women I’ve had the loosest association with – let slip some detail that betrayed the thoroughness of their ‘research’. They’re not using this intelligence to build a relationship – their using it to take something – some trivia to squirrel away in their heads and feed their fantasies when reality is not to their liking. The only thing that’s evolved is the hamsters taste for porn.

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    • on July 7, 2015 at 11:20 am corvinus

      Whereas men should asses the status of their asses.

      Because fat chicks suck.

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  24. on July 7, 2015 at 2:10 am walawala

    Speaking of creepy…anyone watching Aquarius? A kind of 60s era cop drama that has a fictionalized plot built around Charles Manson….He has this interesting alpha vibe. The way he games those flower power girls by first coming off as being this aloof dreamer focused on a music career…how he always seems in control….total Dark Triad…

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    • on July 7, 2015 at 8:56 pm Vagina dominator

      Normally I really like your comments walawala but, judging by the synopsis, this show is just another one on the production line showcasing the white male guilt hypnosis of white-knightism and you-go-girl-the-man-can’t-hold-me-back-under-a-glass-ceiling cheerleadering.

      No clear mention of the hero having a coon best friend whose wise advice keeps him on the straight and narrow.

      I’m triggered.

      Synopsis.
      It is 1967 and the era of free love, drug experimentation and Vietnam is in full effect. When teenager Emma
      *[who’d give a fuck if it were a boy kidnapped by some homo?]*
      goes missing, Sgt. Sam Hodiak starts asking around. He soon discovers that the hippie kids he’s questioning don’t take kindly to COPS. Needing the help of someone to trust, he partners with young undercover cop Brian Shafe,
      *[perhaps undercover in a woodpile?]*
      the a law-abiding officer who struggles with his own demons
      *[male-fail!]*.
      He also begins to rely on Charmain Tully, an ambitious rookie cop who’s anxious to prove herself in a male-dominated profession.
      [you go girl!]
      It’s not long before they stumble upon a small-time cult leader seeking out vulnerable women
      [white knights know women must never suffer consequences of their own foolishness!]
      to join his cause. From there, they follow this man’s trail down a rabbit hole of drugs, sex, murder and a cultural revolution.
      [thank god tv never showcases perversion!]
      Little could they know, however, the guy they’re hunting will eventually become the killer we now recognize as Charles Manson.
      [an evil white man!]

      Yeh, thanks, but I think i’ll pass.

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  25. on July 7, 2015 at 2:15 am stuttie

    I had an ex that started phone & text stalking me at random intervals from 2am-5am some nights. Pretty much a month into me seeing a new girl.This then went on for months. Really had me spooked.

    So I’m with new girl bout 4-5 months but I’m also getting tired of her and looking elsewhere.

    One night my front door lock was glued when I was out gaming. Immediate reaction is to pin the deed on phone/texting stalker ex. But…..I think, could it also have been new girl?? Nahh no way.

    So after extensive interrogation of said ex’s, turned out new girl was the stalker all along and admitted gluing the door lock; hoping I would keep thinking it was the other ex….she nearly got away with it.

    Batshit crazy. The lot of em.

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  26. on July 7, 2015 at 2:20 am stuttie

    yeah, and I’m the creep say hi in a bar….

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  27. on July 7, 2015 at 5:24 am blogster

    I’m glad I read this today, as I’m currently experiencing this after settling myself in a new social circle that meets regularly, an international ex-pat crowd (mid 20s to mid 30s) in an international city. The men by and large are passive lillies or solid betas, spare a few of us who are cleaning up.

    I’ve been bold from the beginning (not being my home town helps somewhat) and putting into practice what I have come to learn, just DGAF; taking a leaf out of Tyler’s in-field videos I kino from the beginning, assume familiarity, gradually test the boundaries, project nothing but sexual interest and escalate quickly. Last week I was blatantly rubbing the tits of three girls (all friends) in front of each other, in the middle of a bar, whilst no-one else was doing a damn thing. At the same time, all three girls eyes shone brightly. I’m now accepted as the kino guy off the bat by the women and its great social proof for newcomers.

    The flip side, as pointed out here, is that their hamsters go into overdrive with the shit tests and ‘subtle’ interrogations and subterfuges. I get frequent statements about how I am so ‘mysterious’ (to compel me to reveal more about myself), leading statements about my work (“so and so said you do xxx” or on work days “how was your day today?), leading questions about my relationship status (“what’s your girlfriend’s name?”); they’ve also quite obviously pored over my Facebook (set largely to private to build mystery and avoid prying). It’s almost like they are doing ‘due dilligence’ on their tingles.

    It’s been a great lesson. I try to give them enough so that I am not too aloof, whilst giving enough to maintain connection and comfort. Still learning, but today’s post is timely and I will read comments with interest.

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  28. on July 7, 2015 at 6:53 am Johnny Boy

    OT, but I have to comment on this annoying song I keep hearing everywhere:

    “Oh don’t you dare look back.
    Just keep your eyes on me.”
    I said, “You’re holding back, ”
    She said, “Shut up and dance with me!”
    This woman is my destiny
    She said, “Ooh-ooh-hoo,
    Shut up and dance with me.”

    Needy, pedastalizing beta male – check.
    Bitchy, overly-aggressive female who will probably dump him to the curb in short order – check.

    I guess I kind of see why this song is so popular.

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  29. on July 7, 2015 at 7:06 am stuttie

    Real-time hamster fodder….

    “The reason I was so pissed off is;

    1. The way you pep talked me about my gf status before your gig and then when I explained to you over dinner at the restaurant how people were introducing me as your gf… I said it would look weird if I corrected them and you so generously agreed to let me be your girlfriend… But only for the night…. Your exact words?..wtf ? Like I’m some ugly or disgusting person or just some one to use. Do you know how degrading that was to say that to me?

    2. You harped on about how women are liars and the opportunists…
    … And then after 6 months of me feeling so sad for the fact that you didn’t trust women cause maybe you’d been hurt so bad I find out that I was indeed YOUR unknowing victim of the very thing you accuse women of doing.

    3. You weren’t sorry. You didn’t hold me in your arms and say look, your vibes were right that time, I did meet someone else but I feel differently now. You didn’t put me at ease. You were in fact mean.

    You Didn’t even give me the chance to feel angry. All of this I find out straight after you console with Lisa about your sexual activity and not being involved with her friend.

    Don’t you get it ? Ask yourself why you needed to do that.

    Come on, you’re a smart person… You think people do things for no reason.
    Lisa had an Agenda and you had an objective.

    What she thinks you do with your dick still matters to you.

    You needed to look good.

    I’m beginning to think either you don’t know yourself very well or I’m too smart a woman for you.”

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    • on July 7, 2015 at 8:31 am Zed, Lord of the Brutals

      Now I’m an unrepentant sinner but…

      I’d reply “TLDR,” After that depends on hotness level, how much energy this is worth.

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    • on July 7, 2015 at 12:16 pm Anonymous

      I wouldn’t reply at all, if you do, it better be less than 3 or 4 words. This is the type of damaged goods you want no part of… can tell just by the way she writes.

      The fuck you wasting your time reading paragraphs of this garbage for guy?

      Tell her to fuck off and go dark a few days, make her apologize for being so retarded.

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  30. on July 7, 2015 at 8:27 am walk away

    “women want men who don’t do what they “””want”””.”

    use her surveillance mindset against her. even before computerphone days she would always find out everything.

    “you were with HER last night?” you went out to breakfast with HER?” “you were snorting ketamine with HER?”

    as long as you’re willing to walk away you can do as you please. this makes her want you more, to the point of obsession.

    abundance mindset is the source of all tingles and easy to achieve when you realize your special little snowflake is an obsessive, lying, manipulative supercreep

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  31. on July 7, 2015 at 8:44 am martin

    when women stalk it isn’t desperate, whereas when men do it, it is desperate. This makes sense, I have always linked creepiness not with rape but with desperation. The creep at the gym is the desperate guy for example.

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    • on July 7, 2015 at 12:39 pm 88

      i think there’s definitely some truth to this.

      when men stalk it isn’t because the girl is “the one”. they stalk because they need someone…anyone. he may convince himself that she is the love of his life but usually once he has other options, the obsession resolves itself and dissipates.

      whereas with women, it doesn’t matter how many other options she has. if a man really gets to her, she will only see him and all the other options are virtually invisible to her.

      so the way i see it, for men, obsession or oneitis is about him, his sense of self worth, and his prospects for getting other women. for girls, it isn’t about her sense of self worth or her chances of getting other men. it’s about him and her sense of HIS worth.

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  32. on July 7, 2015 at 9:04 am j

    A crazy babe dropped by yesterday. She admitted to reading through all court docs related to my divorce and custody trial. Da bitches are crazy.

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  33. on July 7, 2015 at 9:06 am walk away

    “find out his political leanings to the n’th-degree (from his feminist sensibilities right down to how he feels about trade agreements n shit), how he feels toward his mother, how much he earns, is he carrying a mental illness, can he provide?”

    this only happens once she goes into deal mode.

    when she’s young she couldn’t care less about any of it. all that matters is the feeling she gets when she’s with her guy, thinking about her guy, getting ready for her guy.

    trade agreements, lol. nothing external enters her mind. she thinks your job at the burger place is hot. the only thing she wants you to provide is the tingles and maybe some french fries.

    there are two species of women – the feeler and the dealer.

    the feeler is rarely over 18. the dealer is the one most discussed here.

    with the dealer it’s all negotiation and games. always play to win. then move on.

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    • on July 7, 2015 at 11:11 am JohnDSee

      Perfectly stated. I’ve no interest in dealers. They’re already broken. Believe it or not, there are some quality xx that have no interest in the prevailing mindset of the modern xx, no matter the era. Though rarely over 25.

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  34. on July 7, 2015 at 9:40 am J N

    (1) Any man a greater beta or higher has had an ultra low SMV female stalker. It is quite unpleasant.

    (2) Many men who are a greater beta or higher (including myself) have had a high SMV female stalker, usually after she realises you have no interest in her beyond being “just friends”. (I ID’d her as mentally unstable, hence my lack of interest despite high SMV.) I foolishly allowed myself to get drunk with such a creature once, and then found out a few months later she sexually assaulted me. Following that was a round of STD testing and anxiously checking in with her at the 10-month mark, making sure there was no baby.

    (3) Male modesty exists for a reason in civilised, traditional cultures. If you want to see a place where men run around naked, look in the jungle. If you look at a place with a well-functioning society, men are covered up, although not to the degree women are. Dubai has a national dress code for men. Sharjah is a tad more conservative than Dubai. Sharjah, in turn, has less slatternly behaviour from its women than Dubai does.

    (4) A female friend recently grumbled to me that she’s “not sure if I have good arms” after admiring the arms on another man. (I avoid wearing sleeveless attire in general, and especially around womenfolk.) The effect on her was entirely positive. Men who choose not to be half-naked in front of women exhibit good game.

    Note that being covered up / modest has nothing to do with being ugly/unattractive. I choose to look good. But I’m not a jungle dweller or some tribesman in Africa who wears a loincloth, and I really have no interest in making it easier for women to evaluate if I “have good arms”.

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  35. on July 7, 2015 at 10:05 am theasdgamer

    Lying 5h1t-test Girl Game FR

    Has anyone ever seen a woman tell plausible lies as part of bar convo just to 5h1t-test you?

    What she did:

    A woman (Y) danced with me, rubbing her tits against my chest, giggling when she made mistakes while dancing (which occurred a lot, lol, and were possibly semi-deliberate). She gave me hugs and a kiss on the cheek at the end of one dance. I chatted her up a lot because she seemed like she could provide material for my book.

    What she said:

    “I’m the mother of X”. I already knew X, a hottie, and met Y at this salsa bar through X. My face showed that I doubted her story. Turns out that they were friends, not relatives.

    “I’m a psychologist and have a Spanish radio show.” I don’t speak Spanish and really don’t care to check this out. I asked her to speak Spanish to me and she did.

    “I was married 20 years, separated the last 3 years, and have been divorced for two years. We divorced because he wanted kids and I couldn’t have any.” I didn’t see any reason to doubt this stuff. She also said a lot of stuff about what she thought made relationships work: sexual chemistry (tingles), stuff in common (rapport), no “A” problems (alcohol or abuse), and love (comfort/oxytocin).

    “I’ve been with my fiancé for a year and a half. Met him through Craig’s List. Love at first sight. My intuition told me that I’d meet my next love on Craig’s List. He trusts me to go out without him.” This stuff seemed unusual for someone who is a psychologist. I didn’t question this stuff, but I have reservations. Even if true, could be a 5h1t-test.

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  36. on July 7, 2015 at 10:19 am martin

    I see an attractive woman once every so often, maybe two weeks, and I can’t really tell what she is thinking, she encounters I would guess at least 100 young men per day so I am sure she receives a lot of male attention, far more than most women, her responses may take in to account the amount of attention she gets. I have seen that men she knows, her friends and co-workers, always seem to be hovering near her. They will include themselves in whatever she is doing. I think their goal is to simply ruin the chances of anyone maybe trying to flirt with her. Dealing with them will be tough. BTW, I am now convinced that many people will do things simply to cause problems for other people just because it is fun, it may not even be secret jealousy.

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  37. on July 7, 2015 at 10:49 am anon33

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  38. on July 7, 2015 at 11:43 am anon33

    Though often defeated by the Romans, the Germanic tribes were remembered in Roman records as fierce combatants, whose main downfall was that they failed to join together into a collective fighting force under a unified command, which allowed the Roman Empire to employ a “divide and conquer” strategy against them. On occasions when the Germanic tribes worked together, the results were impressive.

    #learnfromhistorygentlemen

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  39. on July 7, 2015 at 11:52 am ladydonnalands

    It’s quite simple and this video explains it all. It’s not about the nail. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4EDhdAHrOg
    I agree a “little bit” with the author. I hope my hubby never comes to this site. Yikes. I like my man being my Cowboy and Duke wrapped up in one. He fit the list of the perfect Knight.

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  40. on July 7, 2015 at 12:35 pm anon33

    jew? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul-Henri_Spaak The Secretary-General of NATO called the Hungarian revolt “the collective suicide of a whole people”.[177] In a newspaper interview in 1957, Khrushchev commented “support by United States … is rather in the nature of the support that the rope gives to a hanged man.”

    of course

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  41. on July 7, 2015 at 12:44 pm PA

    Re. tweets about America:

    Its a country with degeneracy at the top, barbarism at the bottom, and despair in the middle. This is not sustainable. Sometmes despair becomes resolve.

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  42. on July 7, 2015 at 12:48 pm Sam

    Could there be a deep-seated self-loathing to female nature?

    Why are women repulsed by the same traits in beta boys that come naturally to women?

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    • on July 9, 2015 at 12:29 am Not Thought Police

      Sam i’m pretty sure behind most women’s go-grrl-ism lies guilt of which they must dissipate and project (there i go again with that word) onto de menz.

      They have set society up in such a way to make it okay to do so. (and in the main society is okay with this because pussy). It’s pretty much Darwinian. Their Cuntiness compels us to build civilization better, faster, now now now dammit.

      Men are ruled, by design, by the Pussy. What it wants, it gets. The Pussy knows this. It feels guilty about this. It expects subservience but is also drawn by dissent. Hence game.

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  43. on July 7, 2015 at 12:56 pm anon33

    even with the open executions and “disappears” of freedom fighters in the USSR, it took 4 decades to end it ent of a four-decade-long communist dictatorship (1947–1989).

    we are unfortunately only in decade 2 of the communist dictatorship that currently rules both the United States and Western Europe.

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  44. on July 7, 2015 at 1:11 pm itsjx

    Reblogged this on XWorkx.

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  45. on July 7, 2015 at 1:23 pm anon33

    as men, it was our job to defend society.

    The war left Hungary devastated, destroying over 60% of the economy and causing significant loss of life. As many as 280,000[65][66] Hungarians were raped, murdered and executed or deported for slave labor by Czechoslovaks,[67][68][69][70][71][72] Soviet Red Army troops,[73][74][75] and Yugoslavs.[76]

    how many white women have communists raped? women are women; they do what they are told. today they worship the very communists who are 8 trillion times more evil than the conservative white men they’ve been taught to despise.

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    • on July 8, 2015 at 4:41 am Vagina dominator

      The inimitable David Irving wrote a very interesting book “Uprising” on the Hungarian revolution of 1956. It is available free at his website. Highly recommended.

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      • on July 8, 2015 at 2:50 pm anon33

        Hungarians are good, freedom loving white people.

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  46. on July 7, 2015 at 1:26 pm anon33

    Make no mistake, this comes next:

    Following the fall of Nazi Germany, Soviet troops occupied the entire country with the goal of forming Hungary into a communist satellite state of the Soviet Union. The Soviet leadership selected Mátyás Rákosi to helm the Stalinization of the country; his government’s policies of militarization, industrialization, collectivization, and war compensation led to a severe decline in living standards. In imitation of Stalin’s KGB, the Rákosi government established a secret political police, the ÁVH, to enforce the new regime. The purges that followed saw approximately 350,000 officials and intellectuals imprisoned or executed from 1948 to 1956.[79] Many freethinkers and democrats were secretly arrested and taken to inland or foreign Nazi concentration camps without any judicial sentence. According to some estimates some 600,000 Hungarians were deported to Soviet labor camps, and at least 200,000 died in captivity.

    The Soviets control the United States, right now.

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  47. on July 7, 2015 at 1:37 pm anon33

    lzolzolzzlzozl read carefully: http://www.ifla.org/publications/the-new-press-and-media-act-in-hungary

    though to US-trained lawyers it seems like “state” infringement on “freedom of press”, let’s view this story through our “realtalk” “realfacts” lenses, shall we, gentlemen?

    “The media” is now 100% totally Jew-Agenda as described in the Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion. This is simply a fact that is laughably obvious to anyone of European ancestry paying attention.

    The “state” as the jew-dominated EU is trying to portray it is actually center-right “family values” conservatives. The “balance” they want is a view of normalcy, such as pro white families, anti-jewfag agenda.

    lzozlzozlzl

    kids, study CH and the things that get linked here and on his blog carefully. really really strain hard, open your eyes and minds, and figure out what we need to do.

    The right in Germany, Hungary, and Russia is trying to fight back against Reptilian Eskimo domination and destruction of our Germanic culture of decency.

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  48. on July 7, 2015 at 1:41 pm ladydonnalands

    By all means, marry. If you get a good wife, you’ll be happy; if you get a bad one, you’ll become a philosopher. Socrates. 🙂

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    • on July 7, 2015 at 2:36 pm meistergedanken

      And philosophers, as we know, are dirt poor (which a guy will be when the bad wife spends all his money or divorces him and takes most of what she didn’t spend).

      – And this from a guy who savors “The Republic”.

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      • on July 7, 2015 at 3:55 pm ladydonnalands

        Yes…You are right. You will hear no argument from me on your point of view.
        I had witnesses that when I was a Realtor. You would tell buyers not purchase any major items until after escrow, because it would change their ratios, but they would not listen. Usually it was naggy women that did that.
        I am not a shop-a-holic. Writing and dancing are my drugs of choice other than my hubby who comes before the above. 🙂

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  49. on July 7, 2015 at 7:15 pm CMD13

    For those interested, I could use some reasonable date advice here gents. I have a 2nd meet up with a super hot Ukrainian chick that I need to plan. She is 27 year old (looks 22), 9/10, interior design student. I’m experienced with women (30’s) and have had more than my fair share since I saw the light in my mid twenties. It’s tough to match her looks but you’ll have to believe that I’m well above average and that most women find me attractive physically. 6’3, in good shape, good hair, handsome and look younger than my years. But this is my first real foreign girl and I’m not exactly sure how to read her. What I’m asking advice on is pretty simple. How do I play this and specifically what do I do with her this Saturday?

    Context: We met for drinks last week after meeting on a dating app. My text game was strong, we developed good chemistry we met up at a slightly divey bar for drinks. The conversation was okay but hard to read her emotionally since she’s Ukrainian and a non-native english speaker. I usually thrive on my humor and conversational skills. She mostly smiled and paid attention when I spoke and I made her laugh a decent amount (despite her nonnative English) and the conversation flowed between light (favorite activities, hobbies, making fun of the waitress) and serious (family, War in ukraine, missing home). In particular we discussed the circus that is dating in our city (very large east coast metropolis) especially meeting over apps like Tinder and how she is new to it. I got a feeling she is nice girl with a big heart who is cursed with being ridiculously hot and living in a hive of dongs constantly trying to bone her. (Could be wrong. For it’s worth she is consistently very responsive over text. Responds within 5 minutes, if not immediately). Anyway, I think I carried myself well and confidently and wasn’t overwhelmed by her hotness. I’ve bagged many hot women but this one is the closest to a Victoria secret model I’ve ever come across.

    When it got late (it was a week night) she ordered an Uber since she lives fairly far away. When it came we did the half hug and kiss on the cheek thing – There was no opening for any kiss. Naturally afterwards I didn’t think it went well since my minimum bar for a good first date with a chick I meet for drinks on a weeknight is making out followed by sultry eye contact and “see you soon” type of innuendo. I didn’t text her for the next 5 days over the holiday weekend during which she visited friends out of town and I had friends visiting me. I throw a text out on Monday asking how her weekend was and she responded immediately saying, “Hi! I didn’t expect texts from you :)” And she sent me pics of her and her friends from the weekend. She seems very non slutty and quite feminine. The pics were her playing with her friends kid outside and also riding a horse. No slutty boozy party pics. (fwiw- In previous conversation she did telI me she wants kids in the future and that she goes to night clubs). She doesn’t seem like a big drinker.

    I reply: ” haha, what does that mean? ”
    And she replied, “I got a feeling that we not gonna meet again”. Does this mean she actually thought I wasn’t interested? I reiterate she is fucking gorgeous with a hot body.

    I know this was a mistake but I played it straight and said ” that’s funny honestly thought the same thing. guess we do wanna meet again :)”

    The reason I was earnest as opposed to playful in this instance is because she was quite earnst previously about dating etc. at our last date. It was already established and expected. Anyway, she replies “It may depend on what you’re looking for. What are you looking for?”

    I recognized this as a test just went with my standard safe option:
    “hmmm….”
    “eh just a cool, fun girl to do fun things with and see where it goes from there”

    She replied, “Pretty honest answer in a sweet form, nice :)”
    I replied “alright, lets do it again then” and she said, “sounds like a plan”.

    Several hours later after work I texted her, ” you never told me what you’re looking for (other than someone to play tennis with)” a reference to her dating profile”

    She replied:” You never asked :)”
    Followed by:
    “What am I looking for…”
    “Just sex”

    I replied with an iphone smirk face emoji, followed by: “Good to know, though it’s hard to believe a pretty ukrainian girl like yourself needs to use Tinder to sex partners”

    She replied, “:)))) i know I was just kidding. Hope I didn’t hurt your feeling :)))”

    I replied with a sunglasses emoji, followed by, “I knew you were joking funny girl…”
    followed by:”…cause if that were true either we’d have had sex last week or we wouldnt be talking right now!”.

    she replied: “Last week on the first date? 🙂 lol”
    “at least that would not have been boring”
    “i hope”
    “This is for very busy people 🙂 to check if they have some chemistry”
    – this text is somewhat of a non-sequitur, but she is referring back to our conversation about meeting people for first dates off of Tinder and how it’s boring like an interview.. I think she was qualifying her previous text to let me know she didn’t find me boring, just that first dates in general are boring.

    I replied, “agreed, it’s for that as well as to make they are as hot as their pics”

    So i left it there. She is expecting me to text her about plans soon. She mentioned that she finds first dates boring since they are like interviews. So naturally I don’t want to meet for drinks and talking again. And gotta do something active or outside on a weekend when school and work don’t interfere. I can’t take her shopping cause while I dress well and look the part and have a good job, I’m financially strapped from massive student loan debt. She loves playing tennis and generally being active. Whatever we do, it’s gotta be “fun”. As we all know, girls just wanna have fun.

    Is it possible she is a golddigger as many Easter Europeans are? She seems like she has some money based on her elegent clothes (though she does live with a roommate in far away cheaper part of town.) She seems genuinely interested still despite nothing about me suggests I’m rich. She never asked by about my job or where I live or really anything that is a standard test for income. I even dropped that I live with a roommate, a surefire sign I’m not rich. As you can see she is tough to read given her looks, her nationality, and her behavior toward me. Where I live many guys make a shit ton of money which is tough to compete with for the top, top girls.

    So I’d love this commentariots take on all this and what my next move is. The next move determines everything. Thank you!

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    • on July 8, 2015 at 3:01 pm anon33

      dude, you tool, all women are gold diggers (at 110 pounds with 50% body fat and no strength, they cannot house or hunt meat themselves), duh, which is fine (love women) — the Eastern Europeans at least still know how to do it properly — they are feminine, sweet, beautiful, love sex, love their men. you should marry this one. You already saw it. she responds to texts right away, doesn’t flake. she is not a north american Eskimo-brainwashed cunt.

      first time I met one I was scared for months that it was some game and she was going to have her mafia boss rob me at any moment — nope, they genuinely are sweet and feminine the way god made women.

      as a 30 something American, you like all of us have probably never experienced an actual feminine woman, as there are none among our American brainwashed women younger than 41 (includes generation X)

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  50. on July 7, 2015 at 9:53 pm justdoit

    >>how he feels toward his mother,

    Can someone explain the significance of this matter?

    On the same note, I have a feeling that lots of the questions that a woman ask a man are of the type “triangulating proxy questions”, where the questions is really about something else (but vaguely correlated, for real or only in her mind, with something she REALLY wants to know), and she is triangulating an answer to her real question, that which cannot be spoken.

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    • on July 9, 2015 at 12:01 am Not Thought Police

      >>how he feels toward his mother,

      This is huge in the feminist fore brain. Also she’ll want to know how you relate to women in general and how you relate to people in your social circles.

      As usual, what she says she wants (a deferent son) and what she actually wants (a Daddy) are completely at odds.

      You’ll need to show her both. “What IS he?? i jussst can’t understand.”

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  51. on July 7, 2015 at 11:07 pm justdoit

    I think have figured out why pretty much NO women like to talk with men on the phone anymore. Basically, it i because they can triangulate many more men in an hour on facebook (etc etc) than they can by speaking directly to one or two of them on the phone for the same amount of time.

    Pretty simple, once you realize it.

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  52. on July 8, 2015 at 2:25 pm ProfessorPlumWithAWrench

    After several red-handed snooping busts, I’ve taken to leaving creep-bombs in those places most favored by the determined creepers.

    E.g. I keep some old correspondence from the Department of Defense, NSA and the like laying in wait in my desk drawer. Curated photos of me with the most beautiful women I have “dated” (preferably vacation pics with the glimmering blue sea in the background) occupy the top drawer of the night stand alongside two magazines of 9MM.

    Oh “do I own any guns?” she asks randomly, “Not that the government knows about, why do you ask?”

    I always keep matchbooks from the finest restaurants I’ve hit (admittedly almost always on some corporate dime) and leave them about the house. Certain business cards are always on my desk.

    My bookshelf is a confusing mix of jitterbug perfume: philosophy, classics, and fun fiction, alongside obscure nonfiction that is distinctly unappealing to the lefty manboobs they know so well. My laptop is always screen-locked, as is my phone. “I have to, for work.”

    The ATM receipt after a big payout (h/t Leykes) in the wallet still works, though there are more sophisticated ways of course. I’m not flashy, live conservatively, and don’t have lotsa toys or “stuff” but the things I do have are quite nice and well cared-for. Simple elegance goes far with many birds. They see my fiscal restraint and modest style as a good thing (it means all the more for them to consume once they assume control.)

    The idea is to make their snooping fruitful, but only in ways of my design. Their snoooping will be fruitful one way or the other, the difference is my way leaves them off-balance, a bit confused, and most importantly, excited; they get to find pieces of the puzzle but mostly the ones I want them to, and each successive piece usually leads toward more mystery.

    It helps playing no part in social media or internet “dating”, including the slut-swippery of Tinder. They must start from scratch. Many women crack-whore over my zero net presence, doubling down their Charlie Angeling of my habitat.

    Others are just too lazy and assume I’m too “weird” for not joining the sheeple in the voyeuristic ego-echo chambers of the great narcissism machine. Its a good way to screen out those girls who would rather face-f*ck their iphone than do anything IRL.

    Women don’t snoop to find my inner greatness or beauty, they snoop to underwrite my ability to give them tingles, feed their narcisstic hunger, and make their friends green in the face. So that is what I give them.

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  53. on July 8, 2015 at 8:51 pm Dave the Accountant

    I’m Dave the Accountant. 😦

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  54. on July 8, 2015 at 10:51 pm Not Thought Police

    I agree with pretty much everything you say Captain Obvs re: The great divide between the feminist fore-brain in most girls these days and her latent, woman hind-brain. What a girl “wants” and what a girl “””wants””” are as you say completely at odds.

    I think what we can safely say is, all girls are pretty much indoctrinated (into a feminist regime) to greater or lesser degrees these days. You talked about the compromise we must make in order to game these chicks; the sociopath, or “the dark triad traits” (as you called them) that must come out in us in order to convince them of our credentials, our love of all humans, animals, races and genders whilst simultaneously convincing her she might just gush tonight.

    …Annd simultaneously not feeling like we are becoming a sociopath in the process.

    A tough gig.

    Lately i’ve begun to embrace the inner dark triad traits. For I also know i am no Sociopath either. I know that the love that i can give a girl outshines what any kale-munching beta can offer her (and no i’m not just talking about cock here). And as for her little forays into safe secure bisexuality, i know those urges pale in comparison to what i can offer her too.
    A sociopath who is incapable of love or being loved is an oxymoron.

    Feminism – or a Woman’s fore-brained feminist credentials – is just to me another Shit Test. To which i respond like all good PUA’s should…Keep Calm And Carry On.

    But fuckit yes it’s tough. Probably the toughest Shit Test there is. But once we can break past it, then there’s really nothing left they can throw at us.

    If we accept that all girls are indoctrinated (which most of us do) then we accept that we all must compromise our anti-feminist beliefs to greater our lesser degrees at some stage to get to the sweet tang.

    Lately, i’ve just said fuckit, I even been thinking i could in theory marry a rad-fem chick and have her craving my cock (and me craving her Vagina) by throwing her metaphorical kittens from time to time.

    It’s not called the battle of the sexes for nothing.
    All girls are feminists.
    All girls are feminists.
    We didn’t create those conditions. So to feel dissonance about gaming under those conditions is almost as preposterous as saying golfers should feel dissonant for playing while its windy. Or surgeons should feel dissonant for cutting people open

    All girls are feminists.
    All girls are feminists.
    I’m still honing my game in this regard. It’s not easy; many many false positives, many many “ignores”. But a few rewarding rewards too. It’s nice to see their cold feminist ideals melt to the sound of splish splash splish.

    I’m currently gaming a Rad Fem. A tough nut to crack but i’m close. Will keep ye posted.

    (sidenote) In my quest for the forbidden fruit, I’m beginning to see feminism as a type of Prostitution. They (women) get attention, power, acquiescence, deference and subservience in exchange for a *potential* sniff of their vagina. The White Knights subconsciously know this. (that is why they agree)

    But a prostitute doesn’t respect her clients. All hoes will tell you this.
    That is where game comes in. I’m wary to report on my findings yet, but definitely definitely definitely you’re gonna get nowhere with these chicks on Tinder or OKC. It is too remote – too far removed from their animal hind brains.
    You need to arrange face to face, preferably far away from housemates and friends who would remind her of her feminist ideals. (she may however suggest a “playdate” scenario with her friends supervising. This is good (it means you’ve a chance), but you need to separate from the herd as the evening progresses so as to allow her to become less self aware of parental supervision.

    Politics: Sorry dudes no way around it. You need to be a beta fag, manboob. if you cannot agree just smile, she’ll project her own stupid feelings onto you.

    Also, Go more Left – (kinda a play on Agree and Amplify): . If she says she agree’s with Charlie Hebdo Murders, (a lot of them do) you need to say you agree with ISIS. (the world is going to hell anyway, may as well feast on some feminist ‘tang while it burns)
    If you go Alpha at any stage, you’ll lose her. Feminist / Leftist jargon is so deeply ingrained in her mind, there is no hope if you start spouting Steve Sailer to her. You’ll lose, game over.

    But there is hope..

    Agree and Amplify works on four levels: 1. She trusts you..you agree with ISIS for chrissake 2. Now you can change the fucking subject. Also change venue at this stage if at all possible 3. If politics comes up again, you can safely change subject without her thinking you’re avoiding shit 4. if she does bring up politics, you can insert subtle Shivs This is important. Once she knows you’re legit then you can begin to add little lizard-brain sailer-esque arguments. She’ll love this. You’re a dude who’s actually disagreeing with her. You challenge her.

    Most successful lays have ended with this challenge to her world view.

    If all this sounds like i’m being a pussy worshiper, you might b right, but college girls just ain’t accepting anything less than a rainbow coalition of faggotry these days. You must play the game.

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  55. on July 9, 2015 at 12:47 pm Not Thought Police

    TL;DR
    Show a feminist girl (ie ALL girls in my opinion) you’re legit first
    Then begin to insert subtle shivs.

    Girls are so hyper-aware of gender politics these days, you must show her you’re legit before challenging her.

    But i’m wary of even saying that.

    There’s many girls (even rad fems) for whom, “show her you’re an asshole first, then throw her kittens” still works.

    As usual, women’s brains oscillate between the two states quite regularly (sometimes in the same day). Better to get a sense of what degree of the cycle she’s currently on at the time.

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  56. on July 10, 2015 at 2:21 am The Unapologetic, Stalkergirl Creepiness Of Wom...

    […] The ironic misuse of the “creepy” slander by women toward men is in part a case of psychological projection by the unfairer sex.  […]

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