Reader PA provided a springboard for a post when he mused about the male archetypes found in the lyrics of love songs by female singers.
Love songs by female artists about each of VoxDay’s [male SMV] ranks.
Alpha – Carly Simon “You’re so Vain.” He’s a legend and a lady killer who always takes what he wants, he never wants it for too long, and she will never forget him.
Beta – Whitney Houston “All the Man that I Need.” The title alone tells you that he is not larger than life. But her physical and emotional satisfaction is total.
Delta – Taylor Swift “You Belong with Me.” He’s literally the boy next door. An attractive girl plays him, but a plain girl wants him.
Gamma – That was a tough one. How many girls sing love songs to John Scalzi? Best I can think of is Dolly Parton’s “Jolene.” A drab woman pleads for mercy to a seductress that wants to toy with her loser husband just because she can.
Omega – Concrete Blonde “Joey.” He is broke. He is drunk. He is laying in a pool of vomit. No, he is not Keith Richards.
Sigma – Heart “Magic Man.” Nobody can make heads or tails of the attraction; it’s like, WTF? But it’s like out of a dream.
Lambda – ?
I’ll assume a lambda is a gay. Have any female singers crooned about a gay man? Here’s one:
It was tough to dig up that video. For all the talk about women routinely falling for gay men unbeknownst, in reality most women have pretty good gaydars. At least the hardened urban slut cynics do.
One thing that’s interesting about female singers is that you can obliquely track changes in the sexual market by the themes of their songs. One big change has been the anhedonic increase in faux tankgrrl posturing by mainstream twat-rockers.
Women used to sing, authentically, about their vulnerability and heartbreak, often at the hands of callous badboys. Their songs reverberated with truth, because they sang with honest self-appraisal instead of posturing feminism. Even the “tough girls” of the past, like Pat Benatar, singing about daring a man to “hit me with your best shot” (i.e., game the living tingles outta her), aimed many of her punches at her own sternum.
Well you’re a real tough cookie with a long history
Of breaking little hearts, like the one in me
In the 90s, the GineVibe started to oscillate along an anti-human, pro-androgyne wavelength. The first fully-flowered feminist singers made man-hating propaganda a focal point of their songs. Many of these girlpower/girlvictimism songs were based on carefully constructed lies. (Tori Amos was never raped.)
Since then, the trend among female singers has been accelerating to more absurd and ridiculous phony Sandbergian “lean in” power postures. Today, we have the spectacle of fatties like Elle King (Deuce Bigalow’s daughter) singing about all the studs who can’t get enough of her doughgirl rolls and chase her around like puppy dogs.
Older, current female singers are in on the zeitgeist too. Sia boasts of her time on the party circuit and cock carousel as she hides her cracking face under a veil for live performances and calls it a symbolic blow against patriarchal oppression.
Even within female singers’ careers, there’s a trend away from honest self-assessment and feminine vulnerability toward chest-beating theatrics that would challenge the antics of the horniest male rocker. Taylor Swift morphed from a smitten, naive romantic to a fortified fembot “shaking it off”. Katy Perry roars, without a hint of irony. Miley Cyrus milks her femininity-disavowing sexual ambiguity for profit.
Female singers have started aping and co-opting the caricatured masculine themes of promiscuity, emotional distance (implied or revealed), and middle finger majesty, without any of the poetic discordance in feelings or slipped confessions of humility that male singers often drop into their songs.
It’s bizarro world with these aggrochicks, and it sells today. But why?
Maybe as a nation/country/world bazaar declines, its “””people””” need to cling evermore tightly to delusions about the sexes, about the races, about the classes, and about the tribes. And maybe that’s why we have the Elle Kings and neo-Taylor Swifts selling their fake-outs to millions of thirsty femme ears, to both transparently faux-bragging fatties and meekly acquiescing manlets alike.
Or, maybe the modern sexual market has become so alien to women — rife with jerkboys, betas, delayed marriage, childlessness, and Diversity-fueled social disconnection — that the only way they can comprehend it is to pretend to be like men, swinging their clitmores and hewing testicles for sport.

Fat chicks selling themselves as ‘hot’ reminds me of gamma’s thinking of themselves as alphas.
Funny…and all ego-preservation.
There’s been a significant increase in ‘men’ who sing about “the one that got away” and “the girl that broke his heart” and all that crap too, isn’t there?
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Jessie’s Girl is about the one that got away.
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On pathos on male artist songs… there is a middle ground between repressing feelings and indulging in them or surrendering to them. “The one that got away” heartbreak feelings are real. Not in many of us who are a bit older, but think back to junior high school. At that age, powerful emotions for a girl are overwhelming.
Today for me, not so much. If I had an affair it would be about fucking, delight, a rush of fun. But my emotions would be as deep as a teaspoon.
I think a man’s heart redirects in mid-adulthood toward territoriality and protection of family. That’s why a lovesick man over froty is pathetic.
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Here’s the one that couldn’t get away, on account of her bulbous and gargantuan fat deposits.
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You interjected with… THAT into my sublime musing. There will be a karmic bill to pay for this.
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You interjected with… THAT into my sublime musing. There will be a karmic bill to pay for this.
You know the two-digit-IQ crowd have nothing else to contribute.
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In other words redirection to legacy…
You do miss some of those emotions though.
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By “one that got away” I meant and should of said “oneitis”
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About the middle ground between repression and self-indulgence in love songs. The good songs are about those feelings of anguish, they express them the way you’d do in deep introspection or getting drunk with a friend and spilling your guts. Eddie Vedder’s howl in “Black” is such a song.
The awful ballads come off like a public confession and an eager surrender to weakness. Lots of songs are like that, and they’re usually made fun of. One example: Billy Vera “At this moment,” in which he tells a girl that he accepts cuckoldry.
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Black is a great example. And the getting drunk.
“I know someday you’ll have a beautiful life,
I know you’ll be a star.
In somebody else’s sky, but why? Why? why?
Can’t it be, can’t it be mine.”
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That anguished “why” is a great moment in rock and a defining statement of GenerationX.
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I’m a huge Zep fan but don’t see them as “As Red Pill as it gets”
They’re all over the place with their stance on women.
“If mountains crumble into the sea..There would still be you and me”
A touch of oneitis there, innit?
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This is one reason why I listen to power metal: No songs about love. Refreshing.
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If I’m gonna lose my hearing in old age, I’ll blame those Metallica tapes I blasted in my car in 1991. “Master of Puppets” is pure White energy.
Metal is ALL about timing and precision. The drawback is that it can limits spontaneous raw emotion.
[CH: the best White rock music blends the “mit precision” of euro white transcendent striving with feral high T passion. who comes to mind? i’m thinking old skool guys like rolling stones, led zep and moody blues, 90s acts like pearl jam and NIN, and new skool bands like arcade fire (the male singer is better) and Of Monsters and Men. the list could go on. anyone want to add to it? master of puppets is awesome btw. i’ve lifted to it many times.]
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“anyone want to add to it?”
U2 “Bad”
Candlebox “Far Behind”
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Listening to Master of Puppets now, nice. I don’t know as much as I’d like about these older bands. Maybe should upload my Best of Judas Priest double CD to my computer, bought it just a few months before I gave away my stereo.
Even with the bands I listen to I tend to not listen to all songs, just some that I’ll repeat. If you have suggestions of songs from these earlier bands, I’d check them out. It’s a shame when people forget songs that are worth remembering.
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Not so much power rock, but aesthetically taps into our soul is a gamma-like twisted millennial Father John Misty aka Josh Tillman who happens to have the best voice since Presley.
“Now I’m learning to love the war” is an existential meditation that uses environmentalism as a launching point.
His latest “I love you honeybear” is about the incipient global collapse as metaphor for the fleeting nature of romantic love.
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The Cult “Fire Woman”
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Arbiter, you’ll like Ministry “New World Order.” You also get to hear George H.W. Bush of the traitor gangster family toward the end of the song.
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CH, that high T passion from Led Zeppelin and Rolling stones is actually from Blind Willie Johnson, Howlin Wolf, Willie Dixie, Sonny Boy Williamson, Chuck Berry, Muddy Waters. Need I go on? You’re obviously not very educated on the history of Rock and Roll and Blues in America, Europe, and all over the world. Go watch Cadillac Records to see where Rolling Stones got their swagger. To your credit though, ignorance is bliss.
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The Rolling Stones are not the only righteous RR band, but they might easily be the most rightreous.And also the most unrighteous.
Just for a start, try to get the first few cords of Jumpin Jack Flash to sound right according to how they did sound back in 1969. The first cord is written on the page as a normal B flat major.
That was just a shit test brought to you care of Keith Richards. You should know without being told that it was an open corded D major.
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“Stray cat Blues” by the Rollings Stones is worth a mention.
OBTW,and FWIW – if got the guilty wordpress moderator within the sight picture and range of my beloved M4 with its ACOG (Advanced combat optical gunsight) …. he and I would not still be having this silly non-conversation.
There would be “closure” Amen…
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Black Sabbath – with fatso – 4 da win. As a song Ace of Spades. Special mention “The Jack” for its red-pill goodness.
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The Doors – LA Woman
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AC/DC “Shoot to Thrill”, “For Those About to Rock, We Salute You”
The entire High Voltage album!
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The Cult “Fire Woman”
Great choice. I would also suggest Aphrodesiac Jacket and Love Removal Machine as well.
Do you like Monster Magnet? I first heard them in California in 1995. Everything they do is awesome.
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Never heard of Monster Magnet. Will give them a looks, the others as well.
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Led Zeppelin. As red pill as it gets.
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Ministry, U2, Candlebox, The Cult, Rolling Stones, Black Sabbath, The Doors, AC/DC, Led Zeppelin – thanks for the suggestions, guys. The only song I recognized in that list is Shoot to Thrill. (Also by AC/DC I recommend Thunderstruck.)
Will make a playlist of this to listen to when I’m working on my computer throughout this weekend. Have to finish something and need to listen to some new stuff to avoid getting bored.
My own suggestion, as always, is Manowar. Specifically the songs Warriors of the World, Sons of Odin, Call to Arms, Gods of War, Die With Honor, Hand of Doom, Sleipnir, King of Kings, The Dawn of Battle, Swords in the Wind, Father, I Believe, The Crown and the Ring. They have a special place in my dark heart as I listened to them together with comrades in nationalist circles.
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Two songs I enjoy lifting two are:
And Fools Shine On – Brother Cain
Mother – Danzig (sick intro riff!)
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You guys are forgetting that guys write most of these songs. These dimwits cant write songs.I think Taylor Swift writes a lot of her songs but Its actually guys making the money and the window dressing are these record company puppets. These “artists” make their money playing live and or cross marketting deals like perfume and clothing lines. They dont even design the clothing.They’re just faces to sell the shit. Nothing more. It just happens that the trend now is to pretend that women have the power now. The biggest lie ever sold. Girls and women have more disposable income and do most of the purchasing. They are being pandered to by big business because they are also more gullible and easier to sell stupid shit to because its cute or it promotes female empowerment. The biggest marketting scam of the century and women are buying it hook line and sinker.
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One really important point to keep in mind here – for college freshwomen in 2015-2016, born circa 1997, even 1980s shiznat like The Pretenders or Joan Jett, who predate their births by 15 years or more, have all the relevance that, say, The Andrews Sisters of the late 1940s would have had to Gen-Xers born in the mid-1960s. Even 1990s acts, like Whitney Houston or Alison Krauss or Courtney Love, would have been “Mom’s music”.
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“OK, like, the way I feel about the Rolling Stones is the way my kids are going to feel about Nine Inch Nails, so I really shouldn’t torment my mom anymore, huh?”
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Right. GenXer born in late 1960s/early 1970s, grew up on NiN, never understood “Classic Rock”, now her daughter can’t understand Grunge [or “Industrial” or WTFE], because all her daughter watches is Miley twerking with chimpanzees [or Miley munching carpet – or what used to be carpet – now it’s all shaved, which is another huge difference].
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I hated the Stones in college when everybody loved them. I learned to like them a lot after I graduated. I’ve had some memorable psychedillic experiences listening to the Stones at 0600 in the morning after a night of clubbing. They know women well and there is mucho wisdom on women in their music. Gimme Shelter and Stray Cat Blues are in my all time top five. I recommend Her Satanic Majesty’s Request, Beggar’s Banquet, Let it Bleed, Sticky Fingers, Exile on Main Street, and Goat’s Head Soup.
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Joey is no “Omega”. He is a sick dude addicted to alcohol (alcoholism is a bitch and thats his main focus), and has a woman infatuated with him regardless…thats often how it goes ironically.
Also, thanks for that. Ive heard that song around a few times before and love it, but had no clue the name of the song or who sang it.
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I’ll disagree about T Swift Shake It Off – that’s not about men. It’s about accepting that you’re not going to be the best at almost anything, and that is ok – and to not let that stop you from doing those things anyway. Like Cheerleading. Mmmmm.
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Gurrrl powah! No, the song is about not listening to “the haters”, that eternal leftoid bogeyman. No need for self-criticism, everything you do is great, those who say otherwise are just “haters”.
“Cause the players gonna play, play, play
And the haters gonna hate, hate, hate
Baby I’m just gonna shake, shake, shake
Shake it off”
Sure, we can take the lyrics and say this or that has some other meaning to it – but the overall message people hear is, “Haters are bad, you are great!” The typical leftist intellectual bribe, a license for whatever you want to do with no eye to quality, everyone is equal and there is no goal for you to work toward so what you do, and how, is always great. Only “haters” disagree. Too bad Karl Marx didn’t think of that word, “haters”, could have gotten it off the ground early.
The video is all about prostrating herself before the cooler hiphop Blacks and trying to emulate them. The Left has always snarked at Taylor Swift for being too White, as she has blonde hair, blue eyes and sang country-inspired music. Unsurprisingly her videos today are directed by non-Whites: Joseph Kahn, Philip Andelman, etc.
I saw the video for Love Story, her Romeo-and-Juliet-inspired song, on Murray Rothstein’s MTV once. In this version of the video, her blue eyes had been turned brown-black.
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Even the more sexual songs, like Lisa Lisas “Wonder if I take you home” were more coy, and expressed a hint of shame and hesitation. Now we have pigs like Christina Aguilera singing about women needing to get fucked
Not by a woman, but “What A Fool Believes” by Doobie Brothers has Omega written all over it.
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Regarding Christina Aguilera, I remember how a girl who calls herself a feminist was disgusted by how Aguilera wears pink panties over her shorts in one video (representing her vagina). Now, that’s just an anti-sex feminist prude, you might think, but she wasn’t that kind. She liked sex and sexy stuff on TV. But that vulgar video repulsed her, and she didn’t try to fit it into politics. It was an instinctive revulsion.
Despite the daily brainwashing about “tolerance” in schools and media, the sense of what is decent and good remains. Not intact in everyone, but you can find it even in unlikely places. I have heard an Arab immigrant, when he trusted me, tell me about the other (Arab, Kurd) immigrants in his neighborhood and how he disliked their ways even while he had to play along. Without the daily suppression the sense of what’s real would come to the fore everywhere. The Left would no doubt liken it to weed that they can’t stamp out, no matter how much pesticide they use.
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because according to femynyst theory, anything a woman does is awesome
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CH what do you think about Britney Spears?
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Follows an all-too-common route: starts out with a wholesome theme and then it’s downhill once the Hollywood critters have worked on her. That really is a wretched hive of scum and villainy, can’t stay sane if you spend too much time there.
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She was going nutso, Hollywood or no. Can’t fight those genes.
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Media wants stars like spears to start off as wholesome otherwise parents won’t let the children watch and listen to their bilge. Once they become 18 or 19 the cap comes off the septic tank. Filth spews everywhere. Kids growing up on a stream of pc nonsense see the filth and think it’s normal.
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[…] Female Singers And The Sexual Market […]
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Back in the days when Tailor Swift wrote meaningful, heartfelt songs there was one with a theme visitors at the Chateau should recognize – That’s The Way I Loved You. You can guess at which parts of the song the music picks up speed:
That’s The Way I Loved You
He is sensible and so incredible
And all my single friends are jealous
He says everything I need to hear and it’s like
I couldn’t ask for anything better
He opens up my door and I get into his car
And he says you look beautiful tonight
And I feel perfectly fine….
[Chorus]
But I miss screaming and fighting and kissing in the rain
And it’s two a.m. and I’m cursing your name
You’re so in love that you act insane
And that’s the way I loved you
Breakin’ down and coming undone
It’s a roller coaster kinda rush
And I never knew I could feel that much
And that’s the way I loved you
He respects my space
And never makes me wait
And he calls exactly when he says he will
He’s close to my mother
Talks business with my father
He’s charming and endearing
And I’m comfortable….
[Chorus]
He can’t see the smile I’m faking
And my heart’s not breaking
Cause I’m not feeling anything at all
And you were wild and crazy
Just so frustrating, intoxicating
Complicated, got away by some mistake and now….
I miss screaming and fighting and kissing in the rain
And it’s two a.m. and I’m cursing your name
I’m so in love that I acted insane
And that’s the way I loved you
Breakin’ down and coming undone
It’s a roller coaster kinda rush
And I never knew I could feel that much
And that’s the way I loved you
And that’s the way I loved you, oh, oh
Never knew I could feel that much
And that’s the way I loved you
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I think Britney’s Toxic is about alpha love as well:
Baby, can’t you see
I’m calling
A guy like you
Should wear a warning
It’s dangerous
I’m fallin’
There’s no escape
I can’t wait
I need a hit
Baby, give me it
You’re dangerous
I’m lovin’ it
Too high
Can’t come down
Losing my head
Spinning ‘round and ‘round
Do you feel me now
With a taste of your lips
I’m on a ride
You’re toxic I’m slipping under
With a taste of a poison paradise
I’m addicted to you
Don’t you know that you’re toxic
And I love what you do
Don’t you know that you’re toxic
It’s getting late
To give you up
I took a sip
From my devil’s cup
Slowly
It’s taking over me
Too high
Can’t come down
It’s in the air
And it’s all around
Can you feel me now
With a taste of your lips
I’m on a ride
You’re toxic I’m slipping under
With a taste of a poison paradise
I’m addicted to you
Don’t you know that you’re toxic
And I love what you do
Don’t you know that you’re toxic
Don’t you know that you’re toxic
[x2]
With a taste of your lips
I’m on a ride
You’re toxic I’m slipping under
With a taste of a poison paradise
I’m addicted to you
Don’t you know that you’re toxic
Intoxicate me now
With your lovin’ now
I think I’m ready now
I think I’m ready now
Intoxicate me now
With your lovin’ now
I think I’m ready now
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lol I am that guy…it doesn’t end well, chaps.
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This is why daughters weren’t allowed to choose their own husbands back in the day.
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why? you think women should be forced to marry boring betaboy pushovers?
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There was a mix. Parents had their say, the daughters and sons had their say. Even in most Asian nations daughters had a say – varying from time and place and between families, of course. But it was rarely like the feminists describe it. Especially not in Europe.
Digressing a little, in the Middle East today this has changed a lot. In countries like Bahrain, Iran, Lebanon, there is now much more of a notion that you should marry out of love. Even more so than just fifteen years ago. And even then it was rare that parents would actually force a daughter to marry someone (which by law they couldn’t, though of course they could pressure her anyway). Typically a man would approach the girl, and if she agreed to a meeting the two families would meet over tea and talk to each other in the girl’s home. Then the man and his parents would leave, and the parents would ask the girl what she thought, and say what they thought. I know an Arab woman who now lives in the West, who turned out more than fifty men (quite attractive and from a wealthy family). Her family and relatives all thought she was crazy to do so, but she wanted a man who would make more of an effort to woo her first. That was fifteen years ago – today people watch more TV shows from Egypt, Turkey, Britain and the U.S. and are more into romance.
And now you know! Just a bit of trivia to bring up when you hear a feminist talk about this.
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why? you think women should be forced to marry boring betaboy pushovers?
No you should form harems around men like me.
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[…] By CH […]
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Every time I am at a retail outlet I am blasted by the chorus of screaming black chicks followed inevitably by Kenny Rogers or the timeless classic “Hotel California”. Every tedious note like a stab in the brain. Even worse, the chorus of screaming white chicks.
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Kids today, eh? Tch.
Renate of Amon Duul, 1972:
Sandy Denny:
Janis Joplin. Only a few weeks left to go here:
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Try listening to alternative radio 🙂
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I do. If we’re talking female singers, Saga is well-known among European nationalists. (Yes, we call it nationalism. We’re not as modern as you Americans I guess.) She sings e.g. The Snow Fell, or The Green Fields of France – the latter is an old song about World War One, but her version is actually the best.
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Thanks for the posting this band. Instant fan I also liked seeing the Orthodox church in the background as the Orthodox wedding service upholds marriage to its fullest.
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You’ll probably enjoy the lyrics too. I liked the “always” flag. Here’s others: https://themintermonologues.wordpress.com/2015/07/02/minterlude/
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I checked out your blog. It is very good!
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Thank you 🙂 That is very nice to hear 🙂
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Big fan of Alvayys. Great video which cost probably 2k to make.
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Kate, stop giving away our secret trove!
“Archie, Marry Me” is in my MP3 collection (remember those).
So much good indie rock. If our fellow readers find popular music inane and painful then there’s so much they would enjoy.
(In a discussion of music intelligence, I’m waiting for someone to mention Rush.
(By the way, did anyone else here go to Rush’s R40 show in the Virginia countryside at the end of May? So many trip notes.)
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Oh, wow, I had no idea this group (two “v”s, not a “w,” I guess) was so popular! Oops, I’m letting another one out of the bag. It just wants to be freeeeee!!!!!
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Josie cotton is the highlight to the valley girl soundtrack. Like a lot of things from the early 80s, that song could not be recorded today.
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Today’s music is like MSG – always leaving you with that empty feel. Shit’s lame. And classic white rock is being pushed to the sidelines for pop and funk/rap/hip hop. I make it a point when my kids are in my car to play classic rock stations. That’s the only time they hear it since their mother only plays the crap.
Anyhow, when I listen to female singers, I just listen to their sweet voices and ignore the actual words as if they were spoken by Charlie Brown’s teacher. Whatever words they are will be shallow, so I just enjoy the sound of the words.
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is being…? It’s been going on for 35 years.
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Surely all these songs are written by men? – anyway never heard of any of these female artistes.
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for some reason, the B 52 female singers always did it for me (too bad one of them bull-dykes:
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i don’t really by the examples of the original commenter. or maybe i don’t buy the vox day hierarchy. but as an example magic man is almost textbook alpha– good looking and cocky
A pretty man came to me
Never seen eyes so blue
…
“Come on home, girl” he said with a smile
anyway sounds pretty mainstream guy to me. women pretty much sing about alphas, abusive alphas, and then occasionally nice guys when they are upset about still wanting the abusive alpha.
i guess i know why it works (fame and all) but i do still find it amazing how incredibly beta that male lyrics can be and not bring musicians down. although with lena dunham’s man ruining every reason to learn guitar not sure it matters anymore
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Yes, Vox Day’s hierarchy is his own unique interpretation: the definition he uses for beta is what anyone else would call alpha, or lesser alpha if you need to contrast it to what VD calls alpha. So then the whole list is off from the beginning.
Speaking of these definitions, once again we should remind ourselves not to rely on them too much or over-define them. And remember that it’s a sliding scale. And remember that almost all men are close to what we’d call “betas”, but they can still be successful businessmen, inventors, generals etc.
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The original CH A–B-O scale ranks men’s attractiveness to women. The VD scale ranks men in relation to other men; this correlates strongly with the CH scale but it measures a man by multiple variables. Both scales are compatible and useful.
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PA, Vox Day uses the words alpha, beta, omega – that can only be interpreted in one way. He does not say that it is about “how men perceive other men”, he says CH is too simplistic and he wants to present his more extensive list. So he clearly states that it’s the same category, not another category.
It is a bad definition of the terms – I say that because no one else defines them as he does. For example, what he calls “delta” everyone else calls beta. What he separates into gamma and omega everyone else calls omega. What he calls beta everyone else calls alpha. What he calls sigma is useful on rare occasions, what he calls lambda is irrelevant.
That list is several years old, of course. It was one post. I wonder if he still uses it. But that one post at Alpha Game shows up whenever someone searches for “alpha beta omega”, which is probably the only reason it is still occasionally mentioned at all.
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Is Vox Day and alphagameplan the same person?
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What he separates into gamma and omega everyone else calls omega.
Actually, I think when CH calls attention to particularly egregious beta behavior, he’s talking about gammas.
The only Vox Day terms I use on this site are gamma and sigma, since they’re unambiguous. For what Vox calls beta and delta, I say “lesser alpha” and “beta”.
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Actually, I think when CH calls attention to particularly egregious beta behavior, he’s talking about gammas.
The only Vox Day terms I use on this site are gamma and sigma, since they’re unambiguous. For what Vox calls beta and delta, I say “lesser alpha” and “beta”.
Sigma has its use on those rare occasions, yes. It is very clear-cut. But as you say, it is best to reduce the terminology. Better to say “lower” and “upper”. I tend to say “lower beta strategy” about those who try game like “I’m not like all those other guys who just want to sleep with girls and dump them.” (Defining oneself as the only honest man – in reality the vast majority of guys will stay with a girl if they think she’s girlfriend material for them.) I guess that is one of those things you would call gamma, as you say. But, small terminology is ichi-ban.
I notice that those in the manosphere who use the most terminology tend to have the least arguments and deep thoughts. It’s like the words replace evidence. And it gives some people a thrill, I suspect. (I’m not talking about anyone here, I’m thinking of some you’ll see in the comments at A Return of Kings.)
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Sinead O’Connor – Nothing Compares to You.
Major alpha widow.
We should all be the kind of dude that inspires this sort of lament.
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And have you seen the state of her now? Thoracically tattooed bag-lady, can’t even sing, looks as rough as Shane McGowan, or Georgie Best after his liver transplant – minus the easy charm.
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“Nothing Compares 2 The Wall” said a wise man once.
Google it, srsly.
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That was written by prince
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You’re an idiot. That song was about her dying mother.
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Sinead is a tragedy. On the upside, she has several kids with some guitarists. I hope they’re doing ok.
I saw her in concert in 1990. Great show. Her pre-fame songs off her first album are a study in how a wounded human being sometimes gets a pass to the divine.
Politically she was an idiot, but who cares. Her best performance is the cover of Elton John’s “Sacrifice.”
Her highs make her lows a trifle. I will light a candle for her when she dies.
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“Troy” off her first album. Rising insanity. Echoes of William Butler Yates. Celtic genius.
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Lana del Rey pines for dark triad types in most of her songs.
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Lana Del Rey is a highly underrated asset to the counterculture (e.g. here). Why? She writes about being straight, and unapologetically, too. She makes lezzies want to jump on a dick:
I’ve been listening to Lana Del Rey’s Ultraviolence since its June release and here’s my review: gay conversion therapy is notoriously ineffective, but if I hear another Lana Del Rey song, I might switch teams on my own. Lana Del Rey makes me wish I were straight. It’s ironic, then, that the woman who first introduced me to her music is now my partner.
We’re as queer as they come but, when Lana croons, I can close my eyes and picture myself in the passenger seat of a Bugatti Veyron, cruising down the LIE to the Hamptons with “my bad baby by my heavenly side.” We’re the man-hating lesbians of right-wing nightmares but Lana somehow makes me want to “take a walk on the wild side” and “kiss [a man] hard in the pouring rain.”
Why is this important?
Women, with their fluid sexually and default herd-mentality, are prone to current Cathedral messaging telling them that conventional sexuality and roles are inappropriate or wrong, and thus you end up with posts like the Chateau’s recent missive trying to describe exactly WTF is going on.
If you get popular voices (so to speak) celebrating what once was, even if it’s longing for the unattainable alpha, in a thoroughly hetero way, then you’ll see less impact of the lesbo-industrial-complex-effect on your women, and concomitantly fewer short haircuts, bad tattoos, and shitty personal drama as women try to discover that they prefer men over women.
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In case my other one gets stuck in moderation… Lana is important because she makes the self-proclaimed lezzies think like this, and we need the messaging to counteract all the other femscist-anti-hetero-propaganda out there.
“So what makes Lana the most effective advertisement for heterosexuality since, well, the cigarette? Her secret is simple. She doesn’t take heterosexuality for granted. Where other female pop stars lean back and assume a de facto straightness, Lana leans into her straightness so hard that she makes it seem tempting, even to her non-straight listeners. While other pop stars simply celebrate heterosexuality, Lana describes it in such alluring detail that even the most devoted disciple of Sappho might want to give it a whirl.”
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As the father to a late teen daughter, I can confidently assert that Lana Del Rey is easily the most popular singer amongst intelligent, hot girls right now (notice the modifier: intelligent). The simple fact is that most intelligent girls between 15-27, who are also attractive, want what Lana sings about. She is the near perfect pop star: hot girls want to be her, and men totally want to fuck her. She is good looking, sings to perfection in the low register and is seductive as all hell. To the commentator below who says that female singers are funny: you are a total fucking faggot. How fucking gay do you have to be to not appreciate the feminine voice. I hope the Chateau doesn’t turn into fagville.
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Lisa Girard:
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i had never heard of elle king before, it sounded like a highly simplified, synthetic form of maybe blues rock or rockabilly which for some reason always attracts tattooed and hair dyed people. is she seriously a well respected singer at this point? i do think music is important and i did sort of notice the same trend mentioned in the post. but it could just as well be bias caused by whoever wrote the songs, i have to assume that music is no longer authentic anymore. who comes up with these themes? the artists, the producers, the masses? i can’t say i know.
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> “it could just as well be bias caused by whoever wrote the songs” ———- Martin, this is the SINGLE MOST IMPORTANT POINT in the entire thread: Segregating out the actual authentic heartfelt songwriting versus the Narrative-driven shiznat pushed on us by the Eskimos in Tin Pan Alley and Hollyweird and even Nashville, TN. With Wikipedia and IMDB, we can now go back and put together the entire cultural diagram, and see, in every song lyric and TV show dialogue and movie script, who was the Eskimo which was pushing The Narrative at that specific moment in time.
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Alison Krauss:
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Yes!
Alison Krauss is a splendid artist. She has known that she had incredible gifts since she was about 8 years old. She only has to sing and the job gets done. No prancing, no affectation, actually – nothing at all is required from her to get the music into your brain.
She gets the fact that there is a lot of roots/blue grass/Appalachian music that is just so effing good on its own she does need to add any of her own issues to it.
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Indeed, Alison Krauss is an extreme out-lier in many ways for someone in her line of work.
She is quite introverted and struggles with eye contact. She can be scary intense. But she is fearless and therefore never stage frighted.
She always wears her hair in a way to confuse people about her sloping forehead and extralarge occipital region.
Her true “family of origen” has lived in Northern Europe for at least 500,000 years.
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One of the most sublimely beautiful and unique voices I’ve ever heard and something about her is sexy as hell, despite her large sloping forehead and big eyes. She’s an enigma.
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Maybe shes an octoroon like Jane Mansfield?
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Agreed! Something ethereal about her voice, reaches deep into my hillbilly soul. I feel like she’s been my confidante and emotional translator for decades. Plus, still bangable well into her 40s.
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None of this matters too much. Because fundamentally, as Rollo put it, “Women sing about men; Men sing for women.”
I may be paraphrasing there but either way, the key direfference in how the sexes treat each other as a whole stems from the fundamental premise.
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I must disagree. Men can definitely sing for other men. There exists an appreciation for art that has nothing to do with getting the femmes, an appreciation that can be very profound.
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A total misreading of Magic Man. Clearly the “man” in the song is Alpha. People forget, before she got fat, Ann Wilson back in the 70’s was eminently fuckable. In “Magic Man” she sings about leaving home at a very young age to shack up with her “magic man.” He has her under his spell, her mother pleads with her to come home because her mother knows he’s a bad boy but to no avail. “Try to understand, he’s a magic man, Momma.”
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Request and suggestion. Please don’t overload the comment thread with video links. It allows page loading. Use editorial discretion when pasting song lyrics. Paste a couple of key lines rather than the entire song. If intrigued by your discernment, we’ll look the song up.
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Let us not forget Heart’s “All I Wanna Do Is Make Love to You,” an unadultered expression of female lust for the Alpha interloper.
Of course, it’s spun to be moral because of her husband’s inability to give her a child. “I had to do it because if I didn’t pork him I couldn’t have babies!”
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lol female singers. that’s almost as funny as female guitar players.
they belong on backup. just like they do in relationships.
the musical world would still make absolute perfect sense if you removed every female “artist”
no gaps in the timeline at all. there isn’t a single significant contribution let alone revolutionary creation attributable to women. not one. men did it all.
and besides, behind every one of these female “singers” is a male producer, male songwriters, male session players and male publicity agents.
women have never moved souls to ecstasy with their “art”. only with their bodies.
they should stick to the one performance art they actually do well – fucking
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@Elle King (Deuce Bigalow’s daughter)
rob schneider had sex? with a woman?
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In the ending of Carly Rae Jepsen’s “Call Me Maybe” video her love interest turns out to be gay.
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The most delusional femmgirl song’s got to be “All About That Bass”
“You know I won’t be no stick-figure, silicone Barbie doll,
So, if that’s what’s you’re into
Then go ahead and move along”
Move along? I never even stopped.
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🙂 Confuses won’t & can’t
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How long before fat pop is a thing? Called something like body-positive pop, BPP. I called it first!
I say pop, not rock, because a rock performance would make the singer too sweaty.
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The points made in the OP and the comments hold true for mainstream pop artists. But I think the alternative to them, female country music singers, retain that vulnerability and ability to say honest and confessional things that rock/pop singers have lost.
Consider the top song in the country charts at this moment: “Girl Crush”
I wanna taste her lips, yeah, ‘cause they taste like you
I wanna drown myself in a bottle of her perfume
I want her long blonde hair, I want her magic touch
Yeah, ‘cause maybe then you’d want me just as much
I got a girl crush, I got a girl crush
Unapologetically feminine…
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One last comment, 99% of young people will never hear the female singers I’ve listed above on the radio stations today.
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Why do all of you tough guy Alphas know about all this shitty music meant for 14 year old girls?
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What should we call this little game the Ted troll engages in? “Bwahaha, knowing that/talking about that makes you less manly!” Appeal to Macho?
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R.Don Steele in his classic “How to Date Young Women for Men Over 35” advises men to listen to contemporary music and pretend that they like. Hide the Sinatra LPs and Banlon shirts. Also he say get a subscription to “Cosmo” as it routinely features articles on the positive benefits of older lovers.
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This is all research in the name of SCIENCE! (I fucking love science)
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Buying these pop CDs would be lame. Knowing a few songs that you’ve heard over the years is goddamn basic. I can also immediately tell that Ted has never had a girlfriend.
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ROFL
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Aaaw , this one did a song for her beta orbiter who talks to her on the phone all night. Lolzlolzozoz
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The Pistol Annie’s song “The Hunter’s Wife” is a good song about a woman married to a real huntin’ man.
And if I was a bettin’ woman
I’d lay my money down
I’d bet he spends more time in them woods
Than he spends in this house
I got myself a problem, I can’t figure no way out
It’s like I’m married to a shotgun carryin’, tobacco chewin’, no good blue
Tick hound
“Loved by a Workin’ Man” is good as well. Country singers still know what real men are supposed to be like.
He don’t write love letters but he loves to make things right
With a heart the size of Texas, two arms to hold you tight
He won’t do the laundry but he’ll keep your car real clean
And he’ll make you feel like the prettiest thing that he’s ever seen
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I’m gonna throw this one out there as another female artist on alpha:
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Oldie but goodie:
Heat Wave by Martha and the Vandellas.
Whenever I’m with him
Something inside
Starts to burnin’
And I’m filled with desire
Could it be the devil in me
Or is this the way love’s supposed to be
Chorus:
Just like a heatwave
Burning in my heart
Can’t keep from cryin’
It’s tearing me apart
Whenever he calls my name
So slow, sweet and plain
I feel, yeah, yeah, well I feel that burning flame
Chorus
Sometimes I stare in space
Tears all over my face
I can’t explain it, don’t understand it
I ‘ain’t never felt like this before
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I have always been partial to female singers, especially those who were about their vulnerability and femininity, and were singing about a man that gave them atomic tingles.
I’ve liked Ingrid Michaealson since before she was cool in 2008. Took the wife and 10 yr old daughter (at the time) to a 2008 concert in New Haven. My daughter sat on the stage iwth the Asian Yalie nerds, and Ingrid came up to my daughter at the end of her concert and asked her for some of her Skittles! It was so sweet.
Here’s an Ingrid song that tells a story, but you have to follow the lyrics carefully and pay attention right to the end.
She’s a REAL musician, classical opera trained from toddlerhood, plays live no problem, that’s her real voice, no auto-tune, can easily accompany her own singing on piano. This is what a musical virtuoso looks like, and one hot chick. Wow.
See also Little Romance, Corner of Your Heart (Ingrid as stalker hiding under her boyfriend’s bed).
She’s actually married and breeding babies. She supports SJW’s officially, but is very conventional in her own lifestyle.
I was at this concert. Landline is about the crash of civilization. A storm knocks out the electricity, all we ever need is a landline, just in case the power goes down.
Notice how Ingrid’s husband Greg is barely a passable singer with a little tiny range and not much voice control. hits a lot of off key notes. He’s a self taught California dude. then Ingrid comes in. Notice the difference. Ingrid was trained in opera from 4 years old. Her abilties as a musician are miles above Greg’s ,but their relationship seems to work, she loves and admires him as she should. This is what marriage looks like when it works.
We need to raise our kids to be highly competent, like Ingrid, not neglected and self taught, like Greg.
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She and her husband are divorced.
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Divorced you say! (Fingers tenting ala Monty Burns)
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No! Ingrid and Greg Laswell are divorced already?
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Oops, here’s Landline with Greg and Ingrid. (referring to my other post)
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This body type:
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^ this … a solid 9. Nice hip-waist ratio, natural D-cup boobs. And something about a hot chick with hipster frames that makes them exxxtra sexxxy … librarian role play, girl-next-door who doesn’t know how hot she is (though I’m sure she does), dunno, but it works for me.
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A 9, seriously? She’s a 5. Which means not ugly, but not attractive either. That’s the level you’ll accept that your friend brings as his girlfriend, because not everyone can get a hot girl but at least she’s not ugly.
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Her father is a Swedish composer, her mom is an Eskimo from NYC. I think she got her looks and talent from dad.
But yeah, good evaluation Subarctic Hillbilly. I have no attraction to girls with boy-bodies. I like a woman with an obviously female body — the wide hips, the natural boobs, and a feminine personality. For my tastes, Ingrid would be a 10.
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Reminds me of a bartender at a beer/burger joint I’d visit. Had a plain Jane look to her and the only reason I’d show up was for her unforced cleavage (the best kind of cleavage.) She was tall with negative ass. Disappointing. I”m talking concave!
Typical Midwestern girl, out to LA to make it big. But just cause her tits were, didn’t mean she would.
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C’mon! 5?
That girl is a bombshell. She would be phenomenal walking into the room nude. Solid nine, imo. Especially if she is 5’7″ plus that would be a whole lot of curvy white flesh coming at you, just bobbling around, breathtaking in the nude. Massive naturals, long hair. That’s a woman. HOw in the hell is she a five to anyone?
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Her body is sick, nothing like a thick white girl with more meat and potatoes and less skin and bones. The sweet white nectar, gets my BBC extra rock.
[CH: telling. are you a fatty fucker, or a bitter fatty? either way, you don’t come out looking good.]
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[CH: telling. are you a fatty fucker, or a bitter fatty? either way, you don’t come out looking good.]
Well me personally i don’t care about what other folks think. I understand that negro sensuality is considered a flaw to the white which in terms of civilization building and racial cohesion he is correct. In this case however (Sex/dating) it is a benefit because of our willingness to satisfy our appetites. Call it the inability to delay gratification or impulsiveness, which depending on the intellect and the will can be controlled and used when more important things are taken care of but it is always there. A thicker, curvier, more meaty or fleshy woman is more appealing to my loins. Very primitive and lusty and in a purely sexual, carnal, or bestial way. The more sexual dimorphism the better. Don’t be offended by my brash statement, she might not even like blacks.
[CH: gross. but i do like the cut of your trollery.
ps disfiguring obesity actually destroys sexual dimorphism, not strengthens it.]
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Remember that robin thicke song ” blurred lines”? Remember how feminists claimed that it was somehow encouraging rape? Remember how his career was almost ruined over it? You should listen to some of the songs that female artists have recorded about forcefully taking men. Similar theme as today’s CH post. No outrage whatsoever for those artists. Oh, and rappers get a pass too when they talk about forcefully taking women. I’m sure you can guess why that is…
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I remember Weird Al’s “Word Crimes”….brilliant!
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I never understood that. Blurred Lines always sounded very sex-positive, more “you’re free to have sex” and less “suck my dick, bitch.” Maybe I’m just blinded because I liked it or maybe I’m missing some chunk of the lyrics.
Turns out that noted feminist Pharrell actually wrote it, not Robin.
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“noted feminist Pharrell”
All Pharrell is doing, like every other star in his position, is paying lip service to the dominant political orthodoxy by claiming to be a feminist. It’s all merely signalling to preserve his job security, and that’s it – essentially the 2015 version of Motley Crue appearing in a PSA to tell you to stay off drugs.
In private, the man buys into feminist claptrap about as much as the average red-piller does. Hence, Blurred Lines, and the hundreds of groupies he runs through in a year.
I do believe, there is an important game point to be pulled from this example:
Lack of logical consistency is overcome by tingles.
Every. Damn. Time.
Hypocritical jerkboy game is what cads who have to hew to libtard orthodoxy use, to maintain both their career and bedpost. Bill Clinton, Francois Hollande, and most heavy prog-signalling A-listers (like Pharrell) are instructive examples.
The modus operandi here is really just the application of charm coupled with a sociopathic level of disconnect between whatever one is doing and saying. Tingles trigger the rationalization needed to square all the circles you utter.
I’d imagine you could practice this technique by wolfing down a cheeseburger while trying to do everything in your power to convince the folks at the table that you are a devout vegan.
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Maybe femininity itself is a pretense and cad culture has freed women to drop the mask.
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It isn’t a pretense, but it does have to be cultivated and nurtured or you get the equivalent of a feral adult who was never taught language and can’t really learn it all that well as an adult.
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Was a fan of this song when it came out. Now it’s almost 20 years old!
Sounds like your typical gal nowadays, though, less remorse and more delight at being evil:
Fiona Apple’s Criminal:
I’ve been a bad bad girl
I’ve been careless
With a delicate man
And it’s a sad sad world
When a girl will break a boy
Just because she can
Don’t you tell me to deny it
I’ve done wrong and
I want to
Suffer for my sins
I’ve come to you
‘Cause I need
Guidance to be true
And I just don’t know
Where I can begin
Chorus:
What I need is
A good defense
‘Cause I’m feelin’
Like a criminal
And I need
To be redeemed
To the one
I’ve sinned against
Because he’s all
I ever knew of love
Heaven help me
For the way I am
Save me from
These evil deeds
Before I get them done
I know tomorrow brings
The consequence at hand
But I keep livin’ this day like
The next will never come
Oh help me but
Don’t tell me to deny it
I’ve got to cleanse myself
Of all these lies till
I’m good enough for him
I’ve got a lot to lose
And I’m bettin’ high
So I’m beggin’ you
Before it ends
Just tell me where to begin
Chorus
Let me know the way
Before there’s hell to pay
Give me room to lay
The law and let me go
I’ve got to make a play
To make my lover stay
So what would an angel say
The devil wants to know
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Diana Ross – Upside Down
“`
Instinctively you give to me
The love that i need
I cherish the moments with you
Respectfully i see to thee
I’m aware that you’re cheating
When no one makes me feel like you do
I know you got charm and appeal
You always play the field
I’m crazy you are mine
As long as the sun continues to shine
There’s a place in my heart for you
That’s the bottomline
“`
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“Maybe as a nation/country/world bazaar declines, its “””people””” need to cling evermore tightly to delusions about the sexes, about the races, about the classes, and about the tribes””
Ive been reading this blog a month or so …
Please Enlighten. What are these delusions of which they suf…in brief?
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That the Eskimos can keep it all going merely by inventing fake money at the Fed every year [fake money that the Eskimos are hoarding amongst themselves, seeing as how the velocity of money has fallen to zero], that any nation or society or civilization can persist if its women have sub-replacement-level fertility rates, that cultures and societies and civilizations exist independently of the DNA of the humans [and/or sub-humans] which populate them, that importing sub-humans [and their DNA] into a geographic area will not profoundly alter the culture/society/civilization [to the point that all culture and society and civilization will disappear entirely], that anything good can result from human women mudsharking themselves with sub-humans, that there is any possible hope for the future if the Eskimos are allowed to control the money supply, the media outlets [to include scrotial media], the universities, K-12 edumakashun, that Gay Lettuce Bacon & Tomato is not fueled by the same Anti-Civilizational Nihilism which fuels the Eskimos, etc etc etc.
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I always thought “Like a Prayer” by Madonna was pretty Alpha. She’s singing about how she wants to suck a dude off. For her to be so enthusiastic about an act of female relationship provisioning the dude must be Alpha.
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Dude, think harder. Madonna is a key weapon of the Eskimos. Like a Prayer was about making fun of Christians.
And her other main hit instructs the shiska: “Don’t go for second best, baby; you’re too much better, baby, on your own.” That is part of the attempt to convince our white women to not “settle” for marriage and giving us white babies.
Dur.
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Because hairy armpits are now a wiminzz movement, started on the streets (or the new street which is now much bigger: online, somewhere in social media land), and is clearly gaining momentum with feminista bitches. If you automatically discredit the trend as “just your usual hippie-loving, braided hair, boho-skirt wearing crowds” who will embrace it, you’d be wrong. Young women everywhere have taken to posting their hairy underarms on social media and even decorating them. Yes folks, this appears to be half political statement because young women want to announce their freedom in society and their ability to do as they please, half super-fun-wacky creative expression, because, well, why wouldn’t you want to dye your underarm hair blue and whack a couple of diamantes on there?
Of course we will not see Gisele Bündchenalikes brading their armpit hairs any time soon. The new trend is just the same as the old trend that comes around again after a burst of publicity focused on media sluts (Madonna, Lena Dunham and Jemima Kirke I’m looking at you) who’s appearance needs a boost from any fashion trend that distracts from real beauty and grace. A fallback to something rebellious (Tattoos) or political (My arm pit hair is girl powerz) is preferred to actual style and taste. Because to aspire to anything else would highlight their flaws they are so desperately trying to hide or distract from. “I don’t care what the world thinks of me” is so transparent to men of action who do, and don’t need to shout about it. Ladies it is obvious to us that you spend hours in the bathroom looking in the mirror and caring a lot about what the world thinks.
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This song is almost like a “game” guide. This is what happens to female mind when it comes in touch with alpha. Real alpha.
Friends tell me I am crazy
That I’m wasting time with you
You’ll never be mine
That’s not the way I see it
‘Cause I feel you’re already mine
Whenever you’re with me
Chorus:
People always talk about reputation
I don’t care what you do to them
Just be good to me
Friends are always telling me
You’re a user
I don’t care ’bout your other girls
Just be good to me
You may have many others
But I know when you’re with me
You are all mine
Friends seem to always listen
To the bad things that you do
You’ll never do that to me
Chorus
Life is a game of chances
So I’ll take my chance with you
And you I won’t try to change
We talk about it and I’d
Rather have a piece of you
Than to have all of nothing
So just be good to me
And in the morning
In the afternoon, baby
Just be good to me
I’m not the jealous type
And I won’t let you down
when you need me
I’ll be around
I’ll be good to you,
you’ll be good to me
We will be together, be together
Friends are always telling me
You’re a user
I don’t care ’bout your other girls
Just be good to me
I’m not the jealous type
I won’t let you down when you need me
I’ll be around
I’ll be good to you,
you’ll be good to me
We will be together, be together
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I always thought all the man that I need referred to God. Was I the only one?
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I thought you Curry-Negresses believed that God was a MacDonald’s Hamburger. Which was why you were forbidden to eat fast food. Except maybe at Chick Filet or KFC. Chick Filet – LOL’ed – you’d be Dark Meat. Or at least Mystery Meat.
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Dude, there are a lot of Christians who are not white Americans. Did you go off your meds or something?
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Dude, FeministX == LittleSpoon is a bisexual Hindu mystery meat psycho, with a thing for being a plate which is spun by married Italian piano tuners. And she’s so d@mned materialistic that she might as well be an Eskimo-ess there in NYC [she has often bragged about how the only thing which gets her truly wet between the legs is the smell of money on a man].
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These chicks were on the same label and had the same producers (Vander & Young) as AC/DC. This is around 82′ I think. The brunette is a solid 8.
The lyrics are so contradicting.
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In 2007…
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ariana grande can lick my chocolate donut hole
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When I heard about Ariana Grande and doughnuts, I thought Starbucks had a free promotion for a new coffee.
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That silly duet between John Travolta and Olivia Newton John from Grease: “You’re the One that I Want” sums up alpha fux/beta bux with one line: “Better shape up, cuz I need a man….and my heart is set on you”.
In that whole number she goes from being a sweet innocent girl to flaming slut in hot tight leather pants to get his attention.
Danny goes beta and Sandy now owns the frame….He’s all like “I got chills…” pedestalizing her finally succumbing to her frame. The provider vibe she “needs” with the alpha frame she desires…
“I better shape…if I’m gonna prove…” = beta…
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She doesn’t become a slut, she just becomes hot. And he does not show beta behavior simply for appreciating that. He’s being playful, for just that one time. Danny is the top alpha of his group so he has plenty of alpha capital to scoop from, he can afford himself a little leeway. It’s like when Eric Adams in Manowar sings a slow love song – after all the hardcore songs, and the … “interaction” with willing women who come on stage, he can certainly afford that.
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As a side note, feminists at the time denounced that movie because SHE has to change to fit into HIS world.
No word of course of the theme where a girl from a middle-class Germanic family gets together with a working-class greaseball. A remake would probably skip the Italian theme and just make him Black so that the message would be perfectly clear. Like the Karate Kid remake.
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great points Arbiter. the true mark of an alpha is in how much leeway he can afford.
walawala, i think you’re totally misinterpreting who has frame here.
sandy is dressed the way she is, acting the way she is, to please him, and become the girl she thinks he wants. this whole scene is about her surrendering every part of her being to please her man.
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sandy is dressed the way she is, acting the way she is, to please him, and become the girl she thinks he wants. this whole scene is about her surrendering every part of her being to please her man.
Have to say, what I see above all is the alpha woman and the alpha man getting together. Cooler, hotter, better, the center of attention. You just know that for the rest of their lives they’ll be at the top, calling the shots in their social circle, arranging the get-togethers. Maybe CH could write something about alpha couples sometime, it’s an interesting phenomenon.
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The real Alpha was the guy who played bass on the recording. Now immortal.
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After grunge and right around when Moby was out, mainstream music was still good then after that it went to shit. 2000?
It went factory-like and made to cater to all the boomer millenials (cause thats where the $$$ is). The confident girlz coming of age trend continues. And rap is a side dish for them.
If i were to pick a best woman singer/musician it would be Joni Mitchell. She even kept her femininity in tact throughout her career.
Here is an example from a song of hers called Edith and the Kingpin.
The past-over girls,
One by one they bring, his renagade stories to her
His crimes and his glories to her
In challenge they look on.
Women he has taken,
Grow old too soon
He tilts their tired faces, gently to the spoon..
Edith and the kingpin,
Each with charm to sway
Are staring eye to eye,
They dare not look away..
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Everything’s downhill after 1998.
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The Simpsons became unfunny that year as well. Not sure if that’s a coincidence.
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1998 = five years of Bubba and H!tlery and their Eskimo Puppeteers unleashing a torrent of Sewer into the Wine of Western Civilization. Remember that Friends [which was probably the beginning of the end] ran from 1994 to 2004. No way no how would the Eskimos have had the courage to run that filth during the Reagan or even GHWB-41 administrations.
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They were already testing the limits during 41’s time with Murphy Brown and the whole single mom angle.
I recall not understanding the big deal when the news had Quayle commenting on it and I had caught a clip of the ordeal. I was too young to understand the significance, however I do recall my folks offer a matter-of-fact answer: it’s out of wedlock.
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The most inexcusable beta in popular music: the title character in George Jones “He Stopped Loving Her Today.”
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You know your not Alpha when your debating female songs that should be stroking your ego not making you attack women. Sounds more like beta neurosis and insecurity.
[CH: tryhard. butthurt. flailing. desperate. good job, puque, you hit the quadfecta.]
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Funny how some have such little real-world experience that any deviation from the most basic discussions will simply be a “not alpha enough!” target in their eyes. A discussion of well-known songs has nothing to do with them since they don’t interact much with other people.
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This subject of female singer male posturing was spinning around in my head yesterday.
My theory on why we’re seeing it today is that this is what these girls are told to sing. The secret societies are trying to engineer more 3rd wave feminism and this is how they recruit new members.
These songs seek to make women angry, defiant, and act like men which only serves to create a divide between genders. Classic divide and conquer tactic.
It’s a small strategy amongst a larger one by the global elite who are trying to make sure everyone is at odds with each other. This way, there is no solidarity when the populace is being screwed over.
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Is it possible that women at a large liberal college and City are harder to approach than your average women especially when you add in the fact that they already have their guard up against the cities homeless population who are not afraid to approach. By the way these are some of the most handsome homeless men I have ever seen in my life.
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You need to get right with your wife and stop chasing strange tail.
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LOL
I thought I did after 20 years.
Carlos, did you marry an entitled American women? Culture matters dude.
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Weird, I was downloading 70s songs today and had the exact same thought about You’re So Vain. BTW, check out Carly on the cover of that album. Always thought she was too horse faced, but there she’s young, shapely and completely nipping out. Solid 8, would bang.
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I wrote a redux of that song. I called it: You’re Sarbanes.
Sarbanes-Oxley had just passed.
“…there were clouds in my 10Q, clouds in my 10Q”
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LOL
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Rescue Me sung by Fontella Bass:
“Rescue me
Take me in your arms
Rescue me
I want your tender charm
‘Cause I’m lonely
And I’m blue
I need you
And your love too
Come on and rescue me”
(When you hear this song, you’ll think it’s Aretha Franklin.)
Sounds like a girl that’s beta bored!
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ROFL
SUCH BUTTHURT. MUCH BITERNESS
[CH: doge wept.]
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caps lock wept
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We all heard about Russian soul that loves and destroys unconditionally
Elena wrote both lyrics and music for this song and the way how she performs it gives us an idea that the song may be based on a real alpha who crossed her path
Performance is very emotional and pathetic at times just as woman love for the man that she cannot have or master entirely may be
There is a crude English translation which kills all of the poetry but the performance speaks for itself
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This is so much fun! Please analyze more songs! Can you do some Britney songs?
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Ashley Monroe’s “Has Anybody Ever Told You” is a nice song if a pretty girl is singing it for you. It’s also the best female vocal performance that I’ve heard in country music in the last year.
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I grew up in the 80s. Pat Benatar always set the standard for sexy, passionate and feisty yet feminine and vulnerable. Plus a helluva set of pipes.
Her ode to 5 minutes of Alpha, “Heartbreaker”
“Heartbreaker”
Your love is like a tidal wave, spinning over my head
Drownin’ me in your promises, better left unsaid
You’re the right kind of sinner to release my inner fantasy
The invincible winner and you know that you were born to be
You’re a heartbreaker, dream maker, love taker
Don’t you mess around with me
You’re a heartbreaker, dream maker, love taker
Don’t you mess around, no, no, no
Your love has set my soul on fire, burnin’ out of control
You taught me the ways of desire, now it’s takin’ its toll
You’re the right kind of sinner to release my inner fantasy
The invincible winner and you know that you were born to be
You’re a heartbreaker, dream maker, love taker
Don’t you mess around with me
You’re a heartbreaker, dream maker, love taker
Don’t you mess around, no, no, no
You’re the right kind of sinner to release my inner fantasy
The invincible winner and you know that you were born to be
You’re a heartbreaker, dream maker, love taker
Don’t you mess around with me
You’re a heartbreaker, dream maker, love taker
Don’t you mess around with me
You’re a heartbreaker, dream maker, love taker
Don’t you mess around with me
You’re a heartbreaker, dream maker, love taker
Heartbreaker
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Twenty years later I still mumble, “Check it out, Butthead. It’s that Pat Nebatar chick!” any time a song of hers comes on the radio.
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I always remembered that Pat Nebatar comment! NICE!
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Check out Flight Facilities ‘Crave You’
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I broke it off with a fuck buddy a while back and she posted this popular meme, directed at me.
“I’m not the girl you’re going to marry, but I’ll be the one you’ll be thinking about 20 years from now when you’re having polite sex with your boring wife who fakes her orgasm to make you feel better about your receding hairline”
It’s weird to live in a time when girls brag about not being wife material. To me this (and the weird new pop songs) is a defense mechanism. Girls are giving it up without even a realistic chance of commitment now, and this was their post rationalization they had any power in the situation. In the time society tells them they are supposed to be empowered, most of them are feeling cheap and used.
She wasn’t anything special, for the record.
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[…] Reader PA provided a springboard for a post when he mused about the male archetypes found in the lyrics of love songs by female singers. Love songs by female artists about each of VoxDay’s [male SMV] ranks. […]
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These singers and actresses are so contrived.
You put it very well when you say that they miss the humanity of mixing their ultramasculine ways with some vulnerability, which even the toughest males have (perhaps more than we think, but is kept away from view, almost always a smart thing to do). Some vulnerability makes tough men human and relatable, and smart men keep it hidden but share it only on occasion with their intimate circle, without burdening them. But these women want so much to be tough that they appear contrived (and it is!)
Scarlett Johanson is the one I absolutely detest in films.
Her characters, and her performance, is so fake that it ruins the suspension of disbelief for me. She is tough, ok, we get it, but there is no tension, there is no risk. She acts as though she *knows* she will make it through and kick everyone’s asses, what is the point of watching that!. When men do this, if they are half decent actors you can see some fear in their eyes, and you root for them to get through it successfully, and are glad to see them overcome obstacles.
When you see SJ being a spoiled bitch who knows she’s going to get her way, constantly bragging about it, why would you root for her?? did they think being masculine means acting bitchy? no, it means getting things done, and not burdening others with your problems, but also being human inside. the behavior of SJ’s characters is so contrived that I am taken out of the story right away.
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Hey haertiszyszsz!!!!!
Ed Sheeran is a classic example of a ginger unathletic nerdy weird beta turned rock star that is now soaking panties worldwide. Take away the guitar and the voice and those same panties are dried out like they’re blowing in the breeze on a hot summer’s day.
Funny how when a woman turns into a celebrity it really makes her no hotter. See Kelly Clarkson.
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Mama Cass Eliot’s “Its Getting Better” is pretty unusual. Not about the Alpha bad boy that got away, but instead settling for a nice steady (beta) guy who stature is growing within the bounds of an LTR. Or is it just thinly veiled hamstering?
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O/T. The crazier the leftard the more successful they become.
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/dems-declare-war-on-words-husband-wife/article/2567925
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How about ABBA’s Take a chance on me. “If you change your mind I’ll be first in line. If you need me let me know and I’ll be around. If you’re all alone when the pretty birds have flown…..
That guy was in a good spot
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Could you imagine all the butt hurt if “Johnny are You Queer” was to debut today.
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Isn’t that sort of what butt hurt is all about?
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Sheryl Crow’s The Difficult Kind
I think I was wrong
I think you were right
That all my angry words
Will keep me up at night
And through the old screen door
I still hear you say
Oh, Honey won’t you stop
Treating me that way
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Cheryl’s a good song writer.
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I always liked her voice and her legs.
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She doesn’t have much range though. Listen to her try to hit the high notes on “If it makes you happy.”
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MOD, the most red pill music ever produced:
Called the fatification of this country decades ago.
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Yeah, but Billy Milano is a fat fuck too…seems a bit hypocritical.
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so i am reading the article in the atlantic about polygamy and I think I can make a summary of what the left thinks about gay and polygamous marriage. “we want gay marriage because we hate fundies”, “we don’t want polygamy because we hate fundies”. “fundie sects are the source of all evil on the planet”
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Surprised no one mentioned The Pipettes – a blast from the early days of the millennium. Something about cute girls in polka dots … plus how fun to watch them making fun of Russ Meyer’s “Beyond the Valley of the Dolls,” one of the most brilliantly bad films of all times.
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this lying Eskimo gets a voice on the internet
https://kinja.com/ashleyfeinberg
actually, princess, the theories you are so lamely attacking are obviously true , about nick and Disney, of course.
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America then: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Ymv8XW_qqo
America now: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XgeKHTcufLY
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You can tell when a women is excited about you. The key is push pull.
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Women essentially have two modes of operation: submitting and mimicking. Submission is natural to them and they excel in it when genuinely applied. Women resort to mimicry when they are made unhappy with their lot in life. This typically occurs when they are exposed to a large number of males; they get to see some >90% percentile alphas who are way out of their league according to simplest statistics, yet these women are unable to come to grips with reality.
Desperate women resort to mimicry because they lack the creativity to develop a compelling style of their own, and they lack raw attractiveness to be simply feminine, which is what all alpha males expect from them. Women operate under a misguided idea that imitating men will make high value males desire them, which is a laughable, though sad, misunderstanding of how the world works in terms of human relationships.
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Just witnessed the mimicry aspect today. I’d say this is their default mode nowadays.
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T Swiz is just Morrisey for girls.
Repeated rejection of the beta male leads to introspection and misery.
Repeated pump and dump to the girl- hamster goes from normal walking pace to supersonic or early taylor swift to ‘1989’ in other words.
She has possibly ALREADY hit the wall. And she’s only 26! And moving to New York is not gonna help LOL.
It COULD maybe produce good pop songs when she gets older.
But judging by Madonna. Well no. Its different for girls.
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Hit the wall, Taylor Swift? Okay.
The meme about her only writing about ex-boyfriend is false. That is only a small minority of her songs. This is used to ridicule her, because she has written songs with a country flair. The Tribe hates seeing that kind of music succeed among the youth.
It is the same as ridiculing country, falsely claiming that it is all about crying over a lost love and other problems. Again, that is just a small minority of country songs. But Hollywood has pushed that meme over and over again in movies and TV shows. And notice how it is always fine for a character to insult country music. Like, “Torture me as much as you want. But please, no country music.” Ha ha. Could you ever imagine them ridiculing hiphop “music” that way? Of course not.
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Art imitates life.
Life imitates art.
Music, film, games, comedy, are the front lines in the culture war. They are so correlated, you can predict the next few years in the cultural land-re-forming.
Here is Rhianna stalking, drugging, molesting, raping, torturing and killing a White girl.
And everyone simply LOVES her for it… “Brave”…”a meditation on White Supremacy” … “A thought poem on the Black Lives Matter movement”
etc. etc.
It portends a deeper issue currently bubbling under: White girls.
I predict, most (white girls) will double down on their White Male Hate to deflect from their own perceived white privilege… the guilt will be too much for them to bare.
Some however may just tell Black-Chicks-inc to go fuck itself.
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To Add:
Note the Video ends under that very same cultural narrative as i just described:. The White girl was bad and should be punished accordingly, but really it was the White Man who was the real baddy all along.
Not entirely sure what this says about the sexual marketplace.. other than sex (hetro-normative sex at least) was sooooh 2011 and love (traditional love at least) was sooooh 1999.
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Got bit by the 80s bug, one full of nostalgia. Expose’s been haunting my memories!
Come Go With Me:
Feels the same every day,
Come home from work late again,
Work so hard and never play
I can’t wait to take you far away
Don’t you know? (don’t you know?)
Gotta go (gotta go)
Pressure builds from everyone every day
Get away (get away)
Come my way (come my way)
When the day begins to end, then you’re mine
Come go with me, make you feel alive
This night will last everlasting through the time
Come go with me, have no fears
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I am surprised that no one has mentioned Angel Olsen, whose “Burn Your Fire for No Witness” is as good, and as sibylline in its archetypal resonance as anything I have heard in the last twenty years. Also, Laura Marling is gifted in a way that only a well-bred English girl steeped in folk tradition can be, but she is rapidly going down the po-mo rabbit hole. There is a brief window of opportunity in which a young, nubile female can live the life of a musician as if it were merely a way-station to domestic completion, but if that lifestyle goes on for too long, the rot sets in.
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I like Olsen alright. Marling is as you say ” rapidly going down the po[st]-mo[dernist] rabbit hole”.
Pretty sure they both drink from the furry cup. Probably feminist too as most feminist / bi girls i know love to get all melancholic to them as they sip tea and munch down carrot cake.
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Charlie, Lines, 1978
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Swallowing the red pill has ruined mainstream culture for me. That being said, it was quite refreshing to see something like this song about a woman wanting to look good and sexy for her man out of a singer like Selena Gomez:
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married chick I banged once over a year ago told me she thinks about me when she hears that song.
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Kiss With a Fist – Florence + The Machine
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Abducted – Cults
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Boyfriend – Best Coast
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Always thought ‘Magic Man’ was about Markovik LOL
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