The life cycle of the Modern American Romance as told by commenter The Other Anonymous:
I’ve seen it so many times it’s not funny now.
– Beta, has his shit together, but can’t get laid to save his life
– meets a slut
– gets his first blow job after 3rd date
– boom
– drops his friends and hobbies
– before you know it he’s married herFlash forward a few years – kids, house, divorce – Done.
I disagree with only one thing TOA wrote… it’s still funny.
At which of these dolorous life stages could Game have intervened and saved lives?
Beta, has his shit together, but can’t get laid to save his life
Game teaches betas not to rely on their boring office jobs and steady paychecks to impress girls. Game can help a beta get laid sooner, and with better quality girls, than he otherwise would have under normal game-less operating conditions.
meets a slut
Game gives men choice in the sexual market, reducing the risk of needing to settle for a road-worn slut on the beta bux make.
gets his first blow job after 3rd date
Game, and the increased experience with women, removes some of the mysticism from sex, which has the not-insignificant benefit of protecting beta males from making horrible mistakes on the basis of nothing more than a righteous bj.
boom
Id asplode.
drops his friends and hobbies
Game imbues beta males with the deep, almost spiritual understanding that getting women into bed, and into love, isn’t a miracle that must be canonized, sacralized, and micromanaged to the exclusion of every other nice thing in life. Game also makes a beta male more interesting to his friends, male and female, and thus helps round out his social life.
before you know it he’s married her
Game will help beta males with an eye toward building a family marry from a position of choice, rather than desperation or duty.
Flash forward a few years – kids, house, divorce – Done.
Game will reduce the chances that a beta male will get divorced or, if divorced, get fleeced by a cold-hearted, out-of-love, ex-wife.
Gamespeed, gentlemen!
I’m starting to rethink marriage as an end goal the more approaching and dating I do. Posts like these reinforce my cynicism.
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The manosphere makes most of us into cynics
Reality for individual guys: it’s not that bad
Reality for society: it’s shit
The slippery slope will lead all of us individuals into the darkness eventually
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I think you have it backwards don…
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Its weird seeing those two different sides. For the individual its fine. Playas paradise. I cant help but worry about society and prep for the fall of America
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I think marriage is like religion; good for the weak minded, bad for the strong.
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That statement alone can only have come from the weakest of minds.
(((shakin’ mah haid)))
Avaunt, sophomore.
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Hello kids,
Looking for an opinion, sure it won’t be hard to find on this blog
I was teasing my sisters earlier, and my step-dad intervened (bit alpha, bit beta, bit cunt, looks like an alpha) and started blabbering about how I shouldn’t domineer them and that “we respect women in this family”
When I’ve seen what shit women can do to guys, how am I able to believe his advice? And how would I avoid falling into the beta white knight trap he’s trying to create within me?
Salutations
Donohoe
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Say thanks Dad. And go on about what you were doing before. They often seek to reinforce beta behavior in their sons if they’re beta themselves. I’d encourage you controlling your sisters as long as it conformed to what I wanted if I were in your Dad’s shoes.
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If he’s black, tell him you don’t remember asking him a goddamn thing
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Say thanks Step-Dad. And go on about what you were doing before.
ftfy
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@Donohoe, if you’re old enough, move out and give him the MMSL and Rational Male books as a parting gift.
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Yeah man, I like that. They already know I’m into game and shit though – mum has convinced him that it’s bad and wrong – especially after I had to stop bringing girls back because of the ‘influence on my sisters’
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are they your biological sisters? fwiw there is a giant difference between fathers white knighting for their daughters and men white knighting for their secret crush.
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Half sisters – It’s pretty female dominated family, and dads often become softer under those conditions
So really, it’s wondering how to avoid the social conditioning of a feminist driven family
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I think a father who has gone soft is one who isn’t protective of his daughters, one that would let them turn themselves into sluts, or let any man do what he wants with them without any commitment. You aren’t his progeny, unfortunately, that means that I doubt he views you as his son. I don’t mean that you are doing anything wrong yourself, but I think father’s naturally will be suspicious or resentful of other men around their daughters. how old are you? you might take this as a hint of unwelcome. i don’t mean to be harsh, but sometimes life is unfair unfortunately.
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As a male: ultimately, you chose your own reality
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if these are your bio sisters, you tell your step dad to butt out or you may kill him. They’re your blood, not his.
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Lol nah, I’m the only one of my actual dad who lives in Dubai, can’t wait to go to uni
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He probably senses that you are generating interest in YOU as the alpha, rather than HIM as the alpha, and is subconsciously threatened and taking steps to redirect the female attention his way.
He’s probably wondering if you’re working on bedding your half-sisters. Wouldn’t be the first person in world history to do that.
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If he’s black, tell him that if you want his opinion, you’ll thwack it out of him.
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Say “Duly noted… good talk, Dad… you fairy.”
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Get the fuck out of that “family” the minute you can afford it.
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“Game gives men choice in the sexual market, reducing the risk of needing to settle for a road-worn slut on the beta bux make.”
Man, in the past, I was saved by my own ineptitude, but becoming aware, AH, that’s a HUUUUGE difference and you’re saved from the settling factor that most men in which most men capitulate.
Now that the blinders are off, I can see how much unnecessary drama and bullshit I avoided, and more importantly, not settling “just cause.”
Conversations with friend’s of wives come to mind.
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OT: Je ws are white when jt benefits them not white when it benifiys them too. Note the whine about country clubs. Paging steve sailor.
Now you van je w only country clubs but not whites only anything. See knollwood in bloomfield hills mi. Ki ke cc.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-iFFArdl6F8
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Typos due to posting while driving!
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Hating AND texting AND Youtubing while driving. That’s triple bad karma.
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Darwin Award competitor?
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Even better.
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Guess walking and chewing gum is too much for strap on?
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I guess letting other people live is too much for james1?
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Funny how Strapon never gives us the “letting other people live” Cathedral shame when it’s HIS tribe feeling put out by things like restricted country clubs, public Nativity scenes, etc.
Cocksucking shill. 😡
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Note how TSW’s attempts to shame, engages in hyperbole then doesn’t touch the point raised by James1.
I see no “hate” in that post. Just facts.
James is right too. Eskimos do say “We’re just like you” to whites. Then they turn around and say “We’re nothing like them” to their own.
That’s just my observation.
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Strapon’s shilling disingenuousness and hypocrisy are well-noted at the chateau… and what I wouldn’t give to slap some of that shilling sass out of him.
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Timely post. I have seen 3 couples I know recently get divorced after less than a year!
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God damn it even Buchanan is forced to write and argue from within the undertow of the libshits’ frame.
http://www.wnd.com/2015/07/the-coming-era-of-civil-disobedience/
the answer quite fucking obviously is the Constitutional right of freedom of association, and the 13th amendment prohibition on involuntary servitude (yes I am literally correct–not a joke)
duh.
obviously any legislation that tells a private business that it must cater any gay wedding that asks is unconstitutional in violation of the right of freedom of association and right to not be a slave (13th amendment) at a minimum (also violation of deprivation of liberty without due process, equal protection, etc), and unlike the Obergefell bullshit, this is ACTUAL constitutional stuff that is real.
of course the Eskimo court will get it exactly backwards.
any real lawyer who understands things the way they are supposed to be and was not brainwashed by a con law class in law school in which they never actually read the constitution (that excludes all female lawyers) gets me.
period. it’s so easy it could not even be a law school exam question if thing worked not under the domination of the Eskimo attempt to destroy our society.
period. the federal government cannot, by legislation, force a private cake making business to cater to any wedding to which the business objects, for any reason, no explanation needed. perhaps they are overbooked and need to take a vacation.
violation of right of freedom of association.
but Buchanan is PC-forced to pay tribute to bullshit like “Dr.” King, Rosa Parks, act like forced integration was a good thing, etc.
There is NO mainstream voice fighting for the right in the way that CH does. None. Not one. Not even Trump is able to say 10% of what real realtalk would say, even though the 60% majority white population (at least the men) damn well know it.
color me “disheartened”
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My lunch counter – I chose who can eat there.
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you didn’t build that
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So says former farm equipment – now useless nog.
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Sorry “usless nog” is redundant. .
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As if Rosa Parks designed that bus!
If you’re going to try to use that argument, the only thing you spades got a right to is a peanut butter sandwich.
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Even Buchanan is “allowed opposition”… disheartened indeed.
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Thanks to the internet I’d read enough horror stories than to know better than to marry any of them even in my beta days.
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“True Believers think they can “talk down” violent prowling dindus, or gently shoo them away. This only enrages the dindu.”
Sounds like treehuggers who think they can commune with the bears.
If you see dindus while on foot, give them the widest possible berth and, if possible, leave. Don’t run but don’t waste any time either.
If you see them while in your car, stay in your car and be ready to drive away.
In both cases, keep your situational awareness high.
If you see them in your neighborhood, move. Period.
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In short, use the same caution you would if you were in the woods with violent and unpredictable wild animals that hadn’t eaten in a while.
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Except that we must pretend they’re human, and so we can’t shoot them on sight.
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as Archie Bunker said….one is a novelty…two is a ghetto
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and this is the type of woman you’ll get when you have no choices and have to settle.
http://thestir.cafemom.com/love_sex/187800
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“My husband is the great love of my life. He DOES NOT need to know about my wild years. He thinks he knows my ‘number,’ but he is off by about 10. Or 15. Like I said, wild years.” — Jaci V
Nah….he’s off by at least 25.
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All well and good… Until you run into this….
Then what?
Be strong gents. Always be strong…
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Always with the pics…..damn…there’s so much right in that photo.
[CH: WHITE hot beauty.]
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No man, no REAL man can be expected to be that strong. It flies in the face of all things manly. Now I know the true meaning of “discretion is the better part of valor.”
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En fuego!
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The very definition of 10. Would make a nice feminine vs. feminist caption and hang it next to US flag in classrooms
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smash it.
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I LOVE it when they answer the door like that. Really, it’s the nicest thing when a woman shows she’s been anticipating a lover. Judging by those bedroom eyes – we’re not going out for dinner tonight. Mmmm
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@Sentient
pfffft…she NOT a slut!…i can tell…she’s a good girl…i know bc she told me!…lol…and that bj was on the 5th date, not the 3rd date…bc she’s NEVER done anything like that before…but i just AWESOME like that, so she couldn’t help herself…she told me!…lol
good luck!
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“I’ve never felt that way before”
“I’ve never done this before”
“I don’t like doing X but with you its different”
“I’m not like that”
Said by every woman to every man they’re involved with every time.
Its the same pattern over and over.
Don’t get married
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She has all the curves of a prepubescent boy. I’d tell her to go eat a sammich.
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Seriously. This is the kind of thing that happens to you… Hottest girl… Hottest sex… Not much drama. Next thing you know you are slipping your own head in the noose… Unprompted.
So stay strong. Only get married if you positively want kids and are ready right then to pay for them.
Otherwise sure give her comfort and she’s special but keep her on her toes and stay technically signal. Easier to do today it seems.
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I get what you’re saying now. Not even Samson was that strong. HAHA!
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Well said, CH. This is exactly how it played out in my life. I wasn’t the worst Beta –some guys will do ANYTHING for female companionship, including marrying a Women’s Studies major–but I did not understand the biology behind romance.
None of this stuff is intuitive. The worst thing you can do is “be nice,” or “follow the golden rule.” Women want and need radically different treatment than we intuitively imagine, or what we desire for ourselves. Hell, women don’t even know what turns them on, so how can a guy find out?
I got better over time, through sheer trial and error. Clue to everyone–when you strike out again and again, try reversing all your instinctive actions and taking notes on the results.
Into my second marriage, I received enlightenment from Robert Greene, Ev-Psych, and especially CH. Now the missus purrs like a kitten for me. Life is good. I’m eternally grateful. All hail Le Chateau.
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CH, fag Awod here is agreeing with you — facial demeanor lzozozlzozo yep and blacks look like scary, mean, aggressive gorillas.
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Gorilla with a tennis racket.
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Want marriage? If possible, find a 20-something immigrant from Eastern Europe. If necessary, import one.
Finding a good, hot, marriage-worthy American girl is almost impossible.
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Not true. The real question though, the better question is WHY would you want to get married? Your mindset speaks of fear and scarcity. Grist for the mill, no matter how shiny the mill is at first…
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I’m open to marriage because I’m a Christian (in the Reformed tradition, to be precise). Fear & scarcity don’t enter into it.
My aim is not to bang skanks; it’s to have & raise children within the parameters that God sets.
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And in ten years she will be so completely drenched in American culture that the result will be the same
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That’s always a risk. I intend to mitigate it through strong leadership.
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So it goes ever anon.
Those poor schlubs live in an utterly different reality from mine. I’ve got three different plates lined up this weekend (Fri/Sat/Sun nights), all hourglass figures. I’m still hitting a deadline for my work tomorrow at 5 pm, weightlifting, swimming, attending a big sporting event (plate #2 happily paid for the tickets), and testing out a new cocktail recipe for a Sunday barbeque. Two other plates are on standby if anybody flakes.
We choose our own reality, gents.
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All Eskimos?
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Pre or post op?
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Very cute. One claims to have had a breast reduction, but you can’t really tell.
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“We choose our own reality, gents.”
Yup! However, it’s too easy for people to bitch and complain and “want’ someone to create their reality for them. Doesn’t work that way.
Or, they try to live according to what they’re being told and cannot figure out why they’re miserable.
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“We choose our own reality, gents.”
We sure do… on the interweb.
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I believe that was Baron Munchausen credo
Not that I compare Strapon to him, lying like everything else requires certain talent
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Strapon’s a legend in his own mind.
I’m sure the most interesting man in the world stops by to act as wingman for him. :duckface
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Timely post. Just had tea this morning with an old friend from my London schooldays who lives nearby. Successful, responsible Beta dude. Married for 16 years, one kid, currently going through a divorce which he initiated. He’s trying to re-connect and form a network of similar men. Looking forward to dating and getting laid, which he wants me to help him with.
He’s a prime candidate for Game and Red Pill recruitment. I’m seeing more men like him all the time. Many are called, few make it to the end.
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Letter 1.
She deleted him then re-entered him or whatever you do.
She was housekeeping her phone. Probably walking across a busy main road whilst doing it. All the young ladies do this. Of her 2,347 internet ‘friends’ she decided to delete 1,347 of them. Coz she thought. They’re not my REAL friends. But the dude who wrote to the Chateau- good news you are now one of her 1,000 ‘REAL’ friends.
All male persons should not give a shit about this. I am probably being cyberbullied and triggered and offended and stuff RIGHT NOW but I am blissfully unaware as I don’t care about this shit.
Its coz I am not a 19 yr old female.
TLDR:
never ever give any shits what anyone does on their snapchat, internet, facebook or whatever. Including my comment right here!
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This whole entry rings so true. That was nearly me. I ended up the same but by a different path. More like the fake churchian path. Having kids very late in life.
But what is a real bummer for the older butthexed, divorced, desouled, doods like me.
The 30+ yr olds are kind of interested. I reckon would be fairly easy to get off with. But more focussed on the beta bucks locking down process. Can’t blame them. Society incentivises it.
We are now in the ludicrous situation where old gits like me find it much easier to chat up the 25 yr olds than the 35 yr olds! WTF!
Haven’t cracked it yet. Being a bit choosy. Should I lower standards? Can’t decide. The real 8-9-10s 25 yr old as you could call them are much are harder. But nice enough young birds, that I would reject when I was 25 myself, now have a certain allure.
Its tricky.
I’m getting desperate!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
35 yr old wanna be soccer mum? Hopeless for LTR and I don’t care they still look semi decent. Bonking available from moi. But I will monitor the condoms for holes!
or less hot but kindly and cute 28yrs old.
Bollocks I give up. But its fun to read how all the young guys are getting on. It won’t last much longer this shit. It can’t. The people who believe in it abort all their kids. The people who don’t, don’t.
Anyway. Apologise. I realise this blog is mainly aimed at younger chaps. I should get back over to Dalrock my more natural home.
Promise to not bore you again unless I have something interesting in real life to report. Chance would be a fine thing right at this present weekend!
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I get the impression there are more middle aged guys on here, from 30-50. Well, I should say that those that comment on the regular are in that age range.
This site and many others like it are valuable at any age; though the sooner the better.
I just found out all this last year, at the age of 35, when a google search for birth control pill and mating gave me a link to a CH post.
At times I feel late to the party, but mainly, I feel I’m right where I should be and the time is right. A perfect storm of events coalescing together. Now it’s just a matter of getting better everyday
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If at all possible, learn and practice game techniques before marriage / home ownership / child-bearing levels of commitment.
But it’s never too late.
My trajectory was similar to the outline at the top of the post, if less completely pathetic. With no game, the outcome is the same: you find yourself asking why? What did I do wrong? I didn’t cheat, or get wasted, or beat her, or gamble away money. I’ve been a good father and provider, I always listened when she wanted to talk, took her places and did things with her and as a family. What more could I do? How did I deserve to lose my family (every other week with joint custody)? And who’s going to want to be with a divorced dad in his 40s?
After learning game, the balance sheet looks very different.
I realize that I am desired by women after all, now that I know how to apply myself. Approaches are far less intimidating. Since the divorce, I’ve dated and slept with a number of younger women. I left them at will, and left them all wanting more of me.
My current gf is younger than me, impressively good-looking, slender and athletic. As a bonus, she’s an elementary school teacher, and is therefore acceptable for being around my kids. I don’t have to settle for any losers.
I realize I don’t have to commit if I don’t want to. For now she serves my needs. And she’s already said those three special words:
“You’re sooo big!”
OK….so I’ll keep her around for a while.
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I just turned 25. Sure as shit am glad to be here!
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I’m mid 40s, also in UK. Current LTR is 13 years younger and a solid 9 (if I say so myself, ymmv.)
In short, it’s do-able. It’s not much different than the unicorn hunt some of the more traditionally minded younger guys are involved in.
In some ways it might even be easier, as some of those marriageable younger women are into hooking up with an older man who has his shit together.
For various reasons, I’m not interested in women half my age. I’ve nothing in common with them and it’s annoying to try to find topics of conversation when all I want to do is bang and leave.
For me the sweet spot in v. late 20s to v. early 30s. When the clock starts ticking. The key is to find the ones who avoided the worst excesses of the carousel. There are various stratagems for this: bookish academic types for example, though one runs the risk of them being pozzed SJWs. The lifelong religious girls – though it’s hard to get access if you’re not a true believer. (And AVOID the born-agains, the hymen-resetting regret-sluts, who are all over the place in most churches. Find a nice trad-catholic if you can.)
Like I said – do-able but takes effort and a good sloot radar. Never give up. Always be improving. Best of luck, Manc man.
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If a woman is not giving hoot sex before marriage, then how good of a marriage could it possibly be when she then has the financial hooks in ya via the power of the state?
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Which part do you disagree with? A beta getting a BJ on the third date?
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Nah. Beta with status :
2nd date – bj
3rd date – alpha butthexes his princess
4th date – bj as an apology after he finds out
5th date – marriage
10th date – evening treadmill run in Mexico … fatal skull fracture
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So often on this site I read an article and it makes me think of this…
Words to live by.
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Ferris Bueller was right:
“Cameron has never been in love. At least nobody’s ever been in love with him. If things don’t change for him, he’s gonna marry the first girl he lays. And she’s gonna treat him like shit because she will have given him what he has built up in his mind as the end all, be all of human existence. She won’t respect him. ’cause you can’t respect somebody who kisses your ass. Just doesn’t work.”
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“Game will reduce the chances that a beta male will get divorced or, if divorced, get fleeced by a cold-hearted, out-of-love, ex-wife.”
Oh, yeah! Mrs. Gamer is now chasing; she’s happy, I’m happy, it’s sweet. I’m a natural and have had waaaay too much drama in my marriage. I’ve learned how to cut that down through Game and how to create comfort more effectively.
Mrs. Gamer dances with who I tell her to; she instigates for sex; Mrs. Gamer sleeps on the floor at my feet instead of upstairs in the bedroom because she’d rather be sleeping in the same room with me on the floor instead in a more comfortable bed. (I sleep in a chair because reflux.)
Other broads ask questions about why Mrs. Gamer isn’t out dancing with me, lol. Man who goes out dancing solo wears the pants in his relationship. DHV. Hamsters need food, so women ask questions–often for other women in the herd. IOIs.
Did I say that life is sweet?
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Closing the divide in the south was the right thing to do. Running for the Presidency, McKinley went to the south to obtain the white vote, told southern citizens that “the Civil War was a war of valor.” This statement lead to pride and heritage, and white southerners “ran with it”. They were defeated, and McKinley gave them what they needed.
A road to self respect, they thought. The Civil War was specifically to free slaves. No human has the right to “own” another human, the south disagreed with that. The flag isn’t the only discriminatory symbol of slavery.
Statues of pro slavery generals are all over the south & streets named after them. One of the most egregious, Is a High school named after Stone Wall Jackson, the main individual responsible for not allowing blacks to learn to read & write. What an oxy-moron! This is the UNITED States of America, and in order for that to be true, the south has to let go this
“paper tiger” of pride in Confederacy. People who bemoan the oppression of minorities are doing nothing wrong in displaying a little distress when you have an epiphany that you want to represent ALL in The United States, not just the white ones.
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Right. It is Stonewall Jackson’s fault nogs can’t read and write.
He must still be in africa and detroit.
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The problem with divorce is that it is driven by lawyers and the legal system. Game might help up to that point but in a court of law it is useless. Being alpha is always good but don’t make the mistake of thinking it is a substitute for legal reforms.
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You should love this article. http://newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/sarah-stites/2015/07/20/ny-mag-writer-liberates-wife-patriarchal-oppression-monogamy
It is cuckoldry at its finest. 🙂
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