Chicks with six pack abs: A problem that is, thankfully, for now, small enough to tuck away for use as a hypothetical. But maybe not for long. It seems our world is careening toward an androgynous, sexually unimorphic hell, populated with femininity-crushing fatties or muscular femmes carving their bodies up to high-T specs.
Reader mac speaks for the vast majority of men,
i agree about the abs. don’t like a big beer gut on a girl of course but i’ve never been into visible abs on a woman either. i don’t understand why young guys these days all want their women to be ripped like men.
They don’t. They just say that for PR.
not feminine at all and ugh is right.
Rippling six packs on women are almost as nauseating as distended rolls of pork fat. Both obscure in their own ways the nascent feminine form struggling to emerge and soak up the sun of horny male attention. A perfect female stomach is flat, soft, and subtly terraformed as if to guide the adventurer to the furrow below it.
So while obesity is the epidemic destroying the natural beauty of America’s women, there is an opposite trend, much smaller but almost as destructive, toward hardened, fibrous, X-Fit borgs anchored atop a fulcrum of narrowed boyhips, tromping city streets in flats and trainers, shoulder checking personal space invaders, all the while denying the truth of their essential female nature.
The answer to obesity isn’t the masculinization of the female form.
Softness and slenderness, these are the gravitational forces of purest femininity.
Serena Williams would weep, but she lost touch with that part of her femaleness a long time ago.
Hope Solo wouldn’t weep; she’d just crush your nads in her clenched fist like they were walnuts.
Yo Heartiste why did you get bant from twatter? What was the hateimage that did you in? Inquiring minds want to know!
[CH: really, it could’ve been anything. the silencing was prophesied by chateau lords.]
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Off topic – Why’d your Twitter get suspended? I guess the Hivemind is making their first move of censorship against you.
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I rather the six packs over the fat belly any time. I saw the victoria secret fashion show and some models had their abs marked. Id fap to that; but thats just me…
[CH: no disagreement, pork fat is worse than supra-muscularity. but softness and slenderness are best.]
BTW Heartiste, what happened to your twitter account?
[fate]
It reads here it is suspended.
[victory won, a war fire spreads.]
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The inherent self defeating contradiction of female empowerment is that to achieve it means becoming more masculine. Femininity becomes a weakness therefore there is no actual empowerment for what is truly feminine.
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So to get what they want, they cease to exist? Damn!
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Self defeat, negative feedback loop, whatever you like. The result is just as you say.
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Of course. Feminism is an attack on women and femininity. It tells women that the only measure of success is traditionally masculine: being a CEO, being a ball busting lawyer, being a marine or fireman, etc. And it attacks any woman who wants to be a mother and wife.
Like someone said, if I hated women, I would … [list of all of feminism’s beliefs, such as “tell women it’s a bad idea to want to have a husband and be a mother and future grandmother as opposed to slaving in an office all day.”
It’s evil, and it was created by the Eskimos as part of their war against northern European men and civilization.
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Female Six Pack Abs are HUGE in the Gramscian Cocoon of Anti-Reality. One of their new psycho-social symbolisms is whether or not you run/swim/bike in triathlons. If you play old-fashioned sports, like baseball or basketball or football, then you’re immediately dismissed as a prole.
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Note too how all the elitist chicks now insist on wearing sleeveless fashions – often in the dead of winter – to send the psycho-social signalling that they’re lifting at the gym. Even the chicks on Fuchs News do it. And sleeveless with muscled arms is about the most anti-feminine dress there is.
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Note that both of those chicks [one anti-military, one pro-military] went to grad school at Harvard.
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Was at an extremely prestigious medical center yesterday, in a medical procedure, chatting up one of the chicks in the room with me – EXTREMELY toned, as in the pictures above, and dressed to the nines. Me with awesome negs and whatnot – predicting beforehand all the mistakes which she would make [and which eventually she did make], joking about the goop which she had dripped on her Italian leather shoes, even correctly guessing the price of the shoes [$150 – got a little smirk out of her]. Should have had her eating out of my hand, but she almost ran out of the room after the procedure. Saw her later in the parking lot, driving a Subaru. Psycho-Social Symbolism & Signalling of Subaru == LIPSTICK LESBIAN. I’m seeing Lipstick Lesbians everywhere in med/surg now. A frigging Inner Party velvet mafia of them.
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Was passing through an intersection day before yesterday – extremely toned/gaunt marathon/triathlon HB7ish chick waiting at the corner, she made no eye contact with me whatsoever [as if I wasn’t even there], and instead looked at the car following me. Why? Because I’m driving a Pickup Truck. And subliminally her psycho-social conditioning kicks in a symbolism/signalling of “PICKUP TRUCK == PROLE” [even though I have a vastly higher IQ than she, vastly better credentials, and am model handsome].
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“Psycho-Social Symbolism & Signalling of Subaru == LIPSTICK LESBIAN”
“PICKUP TRUCK == PROLE”
So these people aren’t even thinking on their own, let alone following their own, inner true self desire. They’re just reacting to whatever flashes their way that meets whatever criteria they’ve been conditioned to like?
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@ captain, the right kind of women love men with pickup trucks.
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33, that’s why I started driving a pickup truck in the first place – precisely as a filter for this insanity [and of course to proclaim my independence from it]. What’s changed so abruptly in just the last few years is that if you aren’t sending the correct Psycho-Social Signalling, the Elitist chicks will look right through you as if you didn’t even exist. They really are building “A State within a State” – what somebody on another thread was calling “Inner Party / Outer Party”.
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BTW, just the gaunt face on an Elitist chick – even without the muscled biceps/triceps and 6-pack abs – just the gaunt face alone is a Psycho-Social Symbolism for these kooks: “I don’t shop at Walmart! I shop at Whole Foods!! Behold teh awesomeness of my Gaunt Face!!!”
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CO: gotta disagree with you on the sleeveless thing. Generally speaking I would rather see more skin than less, and the shoulder/arm region is a great barometer of overall fitness. I got no probs with that
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The inherent self defeating contradiction of female empowerment is that to achieve it means becoming more masculine. Femininity becomes a weakness therefore there is no actual empowerment for what is truly feminine.
It should be noted that that is the feminist way of “empowerment”. Which is a war on Western women as much as a war on Western men. The purpose of feminism is to divide the West, to create leftist allies who will approve of mass immigration in order to reach their own goals. Once Westerners are a minority in the lands they built the women will become victims along with the men, and the feminist leaders won’t care about them one bit.
Women should read some classic literature where there are female characters who are feminine ladies throughout, and still strong and successful. Not physically strong, and not successful by running a company. They endure, they support, they advice, they help their families and their feudal lords. When they are the wives of farmers they endure the scorching sun and the icy winters together with their husbands, they raise children, they create civilization where before there was wilderness, whether in northern Europe or in the New World. They overcome hardship together with the men in order to eventually triumph, and they remain a hundred times more feminine than any feminist.
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I think female chubbiness is a much bigger [heh] problem, but I agree that 6-pack abs on women are grotesque. Check out the freaks at the BuffyShot website. A lot of this can probaby be attributed to the Crossfit cult.
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Those are good examples, and make me think:
1. Just how ridiculously obsessive/compulsive women can be. First they get into good shape (for men) then carry on to that extreme knowing full well its overboard..similar to the bulimics and their disorder. Tho, there are alot of extreme bodybuilding roid freak guys too so not just a women thing.
or 2. There is a new kind of woman developing who seem to be doing this for women. They are bi and get off to looking masculine for other women.
Btw Laguna, i was in your neck of the woods recently. I have a story for you ill tell you later.
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that is messed up. look at this shot. it’s a before and after. i’m wondering who in their right mind would actually think the after shot is an improvement. what a weird weird world we’re living in.
http://buffyshot.tumblr.com/image/123975042181
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messed up is right. there are a few good looking girls thrown in the mix but the majority look like dudes and every one those of before and afters looks backwards. the girls all look way better in the before shots.
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After is gross.
To fix that, google Lisa Castro. Firm, real firm!
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Dibs on the one in the middle!
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i’m going for the one on the right who looks like a ted cruz trans — amanda cruz, now, she is called. i accept this fate and will start loving trans people more because it is ok in my country, therefore i must agree. if we were in a political party meeting — would she grab my dick under the table because she is feeling feisty?
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[…] Chicks With Six Pack Abs: An Insult To Femininity […]
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genius stuff from tspark156
dude, right on the money there
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Thank you kindly. Credit to CH for the inspiration and the platform to express it.
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All that energy meant for raising kids and keeping up a house are spent avoiding it.
My sister began running marathons several years back and now I know why. (Always thought it was to get away from neurotic hubby. Well, that too.)
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Cue the potato-chips-gorging keyboard jockeys taking the chance to regurgitate some of their fave misconceptions about gyms and gym goers, the better to justify their own pathetic existence.
Of all the problems facing the West, I fail to see how this girl’s abs being visible would add to the list:
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That isn’t what CH was referring to. This is:
Lori Loughlin at 32
Lori Loughlin at 45
It seems to get worse with broads as they age.
Notable exception where they actually look good, Charisma Carpenter at 42:
http://i.huffpost.com/gen/1298258/thumbs/o-CHARISMA-CARPENTER-BIKINI-570.jpg?5
Was hot at 25, too of course…
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Charisma Carpenter was indeed awesomely hot. Never seen a photo of her over forty, but that’s what a man wishes his wife will look like in that age.
Gotta work out for that. Simply being slim won’t cut it. Also, as mentioned above, both men and women need to prepare for old age.
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Well, the “visible” abs look more like a contrast in lighting and the fact that she’s at an angle. She might be tightening up her core as well, but the directional arrow of the zipper is making it hard to concentrate.
This is not bad. There are girls where there abs look like lego bricks. No thank you. . .
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The shadows accentuate them. But there wouldn’t be anything for the shadows to accentuate if she didn’t have muscular abs.
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With your hands, if you cover up the pants on the bottom and the boobs on the top and concentrate on the mid section, you can’t tell if it’s a dude or a woman. There is the problem. What Heartiste said all the way. Flat but soft:
http://www.kindgirls.com/photo/femjoy/nika_k_19222/7812/12/11/ nsfw
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I don’t think the example you have there is what is being referred too. The lower prominence on the abdominal region on that women is the protrusion of a young healthy womb. The upper part is somewhat developed but not to the “washboard” extent that CH suggests is masculine. This is not a personal attack on you or what you contribute.
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She has well-trained, visible abs.
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if a woman has good times as a distance runner, her body is pretty much optomized for everything else; especially her mind.
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That picture is from Allkman’s Tumblr blog, Beautiful Women, by the way. Some really hot women there, even some perfect 10s.
A girl who exercises her core will avoid back ache in her old age. Good for her! And good for her husband, and all her relatives, just like we all benefit of people around us being healthy so we won’t have to take care of them. Everyone should work out with weights. Those who say “eww, that will make women look ripped!” don’t know anything about the human physique and need to be quiet, lest they embarrass themselves further.
The Czech gal Zuzka, who makes training videos, has visible abs – I don’t see anything wrong with her body. She is, of course, more well-trained than probably any woman you will ever meet in real life, so the danger of women looking as fit as she does won’t be on the horizon any time soon. Phew! Can you imagine if the U.S. was filled with women who looked like Zuzka?
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That’s hardly what is being discussed, Arbiter. A bit of definition, specifically due to shadow and lighting, is not in question. The rest of her is soft and feminine, and even the belly isn’t taught and 9% body fat tight.
The “look at me, I’m more ripped than Ah-nold”, however, is the topic of the thread. Super cut and masculine looking broads with ever widening jaws, pumped full of testosterone.
Personally I’m all about the Aerobics Instructor or Yoga Instructor (the real kind, not the fake kind) look. Soft and woman like, firm but not cut and chiseled like a male.
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That’s hardly what is being discussed, Arbiter. A bit of definition, specifically due to shadow and lighting, is not in question.
Well, then what is being discussed is extremely marginal. Then CH is talking about women who are professional bodybuilders, who eat 3000-4000 calories a day and go on a daily program specifically designed to create ripped bodies, which is the only way a woman will reach that state.
In that case … there is nothing to worry about.
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Needless to say it should be, those abs are ready for a nine-month stretch. And then another. And then another…
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She had a boyfriend (if I understood it correctly), who used to post her videos. Then they broke up and she had to get her own channel. That is why the videos on her channel are only three years old. You should see her when she was younger in the earlier videos … yowza.
So anyway, that’s why there were no babies.
The boyfriend got some British girl to replace her on that channel, one who wasn’t nearly as goodlooking. So I unsubscribed – maybe I should try to find it again, those early videos were … inspiring. Yeah, I’ll stick with inspiring.
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Not boyfriend, husband. They divorced at 5 years. Green card marriage? The website was bodyrock.tv but I think they purged her old videos. Zuzana looked better back then, not as ripped but still ripped and fit. However, her videos now are way better.
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She did porn in her younger days. Mostly soft core… Google it.
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Girls with body fat percentages that low don’t ovulate.
Sexual attraction to chiseled chicks is unnatural.
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@markus64s
“Girls with body fat percentages that low don’t ovulate.
Sexual attraction to chiseled chicks is unnatural.”
BINGO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
no different than women being attracted to feminine looking men. being attracted to the physical traits that are dominant and usually associated with your own gender is not natural. it’s gay. literally.
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Yeah, but this is an example of going just far enough.Those are lightly visible abs, not a bulging, could fit my fingers between them, six-pack.
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@James. But does it remain feminine in appearance?
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I once saw a funny cartoon in a men’s mag that showed a chick in the doctor’s office. Her body was taught and muscular but her breasts were hanging down to her crotch. The doctor says “maybe you should stop jogging so much.”
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@tspark
yeah; the fat is simply limited to those traditional feminine areas; ass and boobs. To sum up; it generates an economy of architecture and movement.
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damn that’s a hot picture – I’ll be riiiiiiight bad
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Allkman’s Beautiful Women blog at Tumblr:
http://allkman.tumblr.com/
He has almost 16,000 pictures there, ten on every page, 1599 pages. Over the years I have downloaded tons of them for … collector purposes. Would be a shame to lose them if Allkman closed his account. Some are fantastic, and I don’t say that lightly. Maybe I should set up a Best of Allkman account.
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Thankee, kind sir. Will check out when I’m at a non-netnannied computer…
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TIP – on sites like that, practice your discerning eye… Appreciation of physical beauty and form is a hard wired male strength.
Every pic, you can find something… just a little bit off… an angle, a proportion. It will inure you to raw beauty IRL to some degree. Enough that you can evince the same discerning look at the 7/8/9 across from you and she will feel it. And get some tingles from her being judged… which puts you in a subcom position of superiority.
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Top pic: Hard 10
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That girl’s name is Alyona Ponomarenko. I believe. She looks very different in pictures from different times, though.
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it doesn’t matter what women do, they will still get an instagram and no matter how they look, some middle aged chaps and various arabs will still find their account and comment about how good she looks. there is no longer a common standard because of instagram.
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Two posts stuck in moderation, one with only five ordinary words and one with a YouTube video. I’d really like to know how the filter works.
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Stop making so many fucking posts, you aspie. You’re like a stain all down the thread. This isn’t your personal soapbox, if you’ve got something to say then get your own damned blog.
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As you point out, CH, ridiculous gear-bulky (‘roids) women are a far less prevalent problem than fatties. 80% of American women are overweight by 15 to 20 pounds and 60% of them are obese.
What’s sad is the middling 6s, who have pretty faces hiding under that extra 15 pounds, which is their fault. God gave them beauty and they squander it. They don’t even need a gym membership; just some 15 pound dumbbells and to do squats, lunges, crunches, and pushups every day.
I estimate, walking around a major city, that less than 1% of women are too ripped and gross due to obviously using gear.
Also, unfortunately, less than 1% of women are appropriately super fit, such as ballerina fit, which *can* include a hint of six pack showing, but is sexy as fuck (still a round ass and perfect legs), not gross or unfeminine, in my opinion.
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Randi Lee Harper reported Heartiste:
“Cernovich & heartiste were both reported for a single tweet. Not spam/mass reported. Tweet had a pic of a boy child being raped.
Along with a comment like “boys will be boys”. Graphic parts were hidden, but it was enough for me to step in. ”
[CH: lemme guess… randi lee harper, huge fat ugly bitter feminist hog? am i close?
as for the offending pic, it was a retweet of a pic tweeted by a black girl who was crowing about one of her boyz in da hood forcing another black guy to suck his dick at gunpoint in an alley, to which was added the heartistian comment “#NogJob If only this was a Death Star trash compactor *sigh*”.
the pic itself was pulled from the gatewaypundit blog. It was beyond obvious from the context of the heartiste retweet that disapproval was being expressed for the depraved nature of the act being valorized in the original tweet by the black sheboon. it hardly even matters if the photo was staged or a criminal act in action… the depravity is nearly the same either way.
of course, the mincing sjw leftoids at twatter don’t take too kindly to the sort of realtalk nuance that shits on their worldview, so they resorted to their only counter-attack: admin silencing.]
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what a joke, so it was that woman milo was talking about that reported it. I suspect she monitors people throughout the day waiting for any small opportunity she can find to do some damage. that’s interesting though.
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Here’s her Twatter page – https://twitter.com/randileeharper
She also has a private one – https://twitter.com/freebsdgirl
She’s a fucking cow with blue hair who runs the “Online Abuse Prevention Initiative.” This is not a joke.
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And here’s her Facebook page, replete with the rainbow-tinged LBGTBBQ hue and drinking from a coffee mug that says “Male Tears.”
Femcunt.
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https://www.facebook.com/freebsdgirl
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She’s a Pats and Seahawks fan? Well, that says it all!
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Can we late-term abort her and sell her parts? I here there’s a market for that stuff.
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of course. this brainless idiot has the power to erase CH’s voice on the internet. she should not even have the power to vote, which was the policy of all societies for 12,000 years until the blip in time the past 100 years have been.
she probably really doesn’t understand the nuance or the fact that CH was complaining about those who are supported by the left, in this case blacks, doing homosexual things, with threat of gun…. the liberals don’t get the irony?
when do we fight back?
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SPAM her with that same pic. Again. And again. And again. Come on, everyone.
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until the blip in time the past 100 years have been.
Anon makes a good point here. The last few decades are an extremely small part of human history. There have been periods of collective insanity before, usually due to religion, famine, superstition, placating an invading army. At any of those times the insanity must have seemed all-encompassing. But nature harshly punishes those who stray from its commands. Reality sets in again. Wiser minds prevail – sometimes in a loud condemnation of the former leaders, sometimes through gradual adjustment. “Let’s all agree to forget.” Such is human history.
This time, thanks to Western technology, the insanity can be cabled out over vast territories and peddled every single day through television and schools, to people who have far more free time to spend on insanities than people had in the past. So this time the situation is severe indeed. However, nature still catches up, to crush those who think they can escape its clutches.
One of the biggest follies of our time is to romanticize nature. Nature is constant warfare, it is cruel and does nothing to help you survive. You have to carve out a niche for mankind surrounded by land that grows almost nothing we can eat, animals that either run from us or try to kill us, and oceans where we cannot breathe and can only move a tiny distance on our own.
Think there is room for insanity there? Never. It only lasts for a short period of time. You either escape it or you die with it. And then all moves on as it has always done.
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Modern America:
Degeneracy at the top
Depravity at the bottom
Despair in the middle
Despair transforms into resolve when it no longer respects the top.
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A picture is worth a thousand words:
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Gaaaaaaaaaaap
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Did you say Gaaaaaaaaaap! An index finger’s worth of joyfulness. Hell to the day-um!
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It’s like a mint with a hole in the middle, what’s missing is what makes it so tasty.
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She has “celery stick” abs, not overly defined but eminently feminine.
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Perfect.
Tight but with no visible definition. When she’s not stretching her arms, she probably looks even sexier.
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Absolutely not ginger despite her pimp’s claims. There is Trades Descriptions Act over here, you know.
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In an on-off relationship with a fitness model for year or so. She was bomb-ass sexy, could bounce quarters off her fine fit toned ass. The powerful attraction, though, was in spite of, not because of, her abs. It wasn’t until months after things kinda faded away (long distance) with her that I learned she was spinning me as one of several plates. I really liked her, but didn’t go into a funk like I so often did back in those bad old days.
Girl had a high sex drive – may be related to her peak level of fitness. Interesting that a couple years later she made the cover of a fitness magazine that was at my gym, and in my gym, magazines had a literal shelf life of like a year. Despite being reminded of her pretty face and tight body on an almost daily basis, I was proud of her, and wished her well.
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That is an interesting story. Sounds like you handled things well.
Interesting that a couple years later she made the cover of a fitness magazine that was at my gym, and in my gym, magazines had a literal shelf life of like a year.
Wish we had any hot girls like that at the two gyms I frequent! One is by work, and the office pays the membership fee. Mostly older people, almost everyone is on treadmills, there is only one bar rack and I almost never have to wait for it.
The other gym is closer to home and more hardcore. One member there was a weightlifting champion a few years back, there are newspaper cut-outs with his picture on one wall. Inspiring to see him there. I always respect those who are good at what they do. That is why I can’t really get on board with criticizing the few women who have visible abs, since I appreciate the effort they put in. I also know that they could adjust their workout regime and lose those abs quickly if they wanted to, so any potentially unattractive abs don’t bother me the way excessive fat does.
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Squats are the secret for both men and women. Especially women. Tightens it up all over. I hate it when women say they won’t lift weights because they’ll “look too muscular.” Yes, if you lift obsessively and ‘roid out. There is nothing fear for a feminine women from weights but looking TOO goddamn sexy.
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Damn Straight, Subarctic! Squats and lunges. They can do deadlifts too – also good for the abs, back, ass, legs, just like squats. Just a bit more difficult to carry out with correct form.
Women have it easy. Just do squats, and maybe lunges and deadlifts. No need to work on their arms or chest. It takes them only half an hour! It’s like a Christmas gift all year round, to be able to get the best shape for your sex that easily. Men have it much more difficult. So women should just get to it.
My gf was doing dance and spinning before we met, and doing ineffective things at the gym like the treadmill. Now she does squats and lunges. I didn’t set an ultimatum, and I didn’t use a harsh tone, but I just made it clear over the weeks how these exercises give her the right shape that cardio can’t. Cardio will give women that notorious “pancake ass” you get from running.
I showed her YouTube videos from Women’s Workout Channel and Zuzka Light, and told her: you see these exercises? They are all variations on squats and lunges as you can see. They just have to make them varied in order to make new videos, but basically they are the same – bending your legs and straightening them again.
I showed her other videos, that you find when you search for “gym motivation”, and showed her pictures from Google. Like every girl I have dated she enjoys looking at sexy women – it’s like art even when you don’t want to sleep with them. And women can be pretty harsh about other women’s appearance, even when they themselves aren’t that fit.
When we went to the bath house I’d comment on some sexy woman’s behind, and my gf would point them out too. Or when we were walking outside. I’m writing this as an answer to a common question, “How do I make my girlfriend work out?” You work out yourself, and you make it clear in this way what kind of couple you want you two to be. The fit couple that everyone envies. You make sure she knows what you want.
It is not tough for her, not if she is an intelligent girl who understands that our desire for sexy bodies is valid. Your demand can in fact motivate her like she has never been motivated before. It is much easier to work out if you have an external demand placed on you.
[CH: yes, women should not shy from the weight room. the great majority of women don’t need to worry about getting “too big”. the kind of ripped six packs on women that i’ve seen come from hard bitches who do crossfit twelve times a week and run marathons, cratering their E levels.]
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There’s a certain point to where I actually do find it desirable. Where I see that diverging though isn’t so much because of the abs definition, but their other, more male features(genetically based) that enabled them to get to that kind of development. I really don’t see this as a problem, the converging of sex characteristics is an inevitable thing anyway, at least they’re not fat.
Personal preference are the fit girls have that soft outline, slightly more definition than you see in venus de milo.
I train in a pretty serious gym, and am a pretty serious lifter, so my friends list and social life have a litany of squatting she-monsters and cardio bunnies strewn throughout, and personally, very softly outlined abs and feminine face win. Also, exercise (not necessarily cardio either) improves sexual response, desire, and orgasm ability.
If anything, ab glorification is one of the better things that could happen in the west, since androgynes gonna andro anyway, normal women can have better bodies than they normally would if it takes hold, just by virtue of the work they put in.
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Word. Let’s not let perfect be the enemy of good.
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Indeed – of all the things faults of modern western women, flat abs is very, very far down the list.
Then again, i’m a sucker for a flat stomach showing below a crop top, so consider me biased.
Please, please let this grow into a trend to counterbalance the fat tubs of goo otherwise threatening to eat all the food.
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“Then again, i’m a sucker for a flat stomach showing below a crop top, so consider me biased.”
I heard that!
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yes, an hourglass figure with natural d-cups thankyouverymuch. but somehow that makes me a chubby chaser to guys who want to bang flat-chested girls with “the butt of a teenage boy” (no lie, some guy wrote that as his ideal).
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yep. by today’s standards, i’d be considered a chubby chaser too. i think that the attraction to very thin and/or masculine men is probably a result of the obesity epidemic. limited choices for men. girls are either fat or thin/muscular. nothing in between anymore.
also, i think men in general are becoming more feminized with each generation as women continue to become more masculine. nature’s way of balancing things out i guess.
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YKWho’s way of balancing things out: feminist/queer propoganda entertainment/education, estropen mimicers in food, etc.
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I’m almost always a Christina Hendricks kinda guy – ripe and voluptuous are my preference. Give me a proper proportion of jiggle and it activates the “wanna put a baby up in there” reflex. Boners don’t lie.
That said, the sexiest girl I’ve ever seen was a dancer in a high-end bikini bar. Couldn’t have been more than 5′ and under 100 pounds. She was so pretty it was hard to look at her, like staring at the sun. While she was quite slender, she had a perfect rather high waist, teacup titties and surprisingly round bottom. Part of what made her so beautiful, though, was her world-weary froideur. It was a like a code I just had to crack. Never did. And obviously, haven’t stopped thinking about her.
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Should have added though probably not necessary – she was Russian. One in a long line of Siberian beauties I have known.
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I’ve always thought guys w 6 pack abs were fags.
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Ah, here’s one of those keyboard jockeys I was talking about. Enjoying your potato chips?
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Occasionally. With beers. How’s your vodka cran?
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Nope, no vodka here. Glad to hear you’re enjoying your potato chips. Always fun to see that I’m right.
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As to the topic of the post –
Abs on a woman seems to be the only way a woman can age gracefully. I’ve noticed that as a woman goes past the wall, she can either become an amorphous blob or she can workout hardcore. If it was my wife, I’d choose the latter every time.
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Exactly what I was thinking of when I wrote about old age, up-thread.
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It’s entirely natural and normal for men to find ripped abs on women highly unappealing. Visible abs are almost solely a function of body fat percentage. On women they become clearly visible below about 12-15% body fat. This is about the same level where ovulation rapidly becomes impaired. Men who find ripped abs on women attractive are evolutionary dead enders.
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yep
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Men: Live not by lies.
http://www.orthodoxytoday.org/articles/SolhenitsynLies.php
And the simplest and most accessible key to our self-neglected liberation lies right here: Personal non-participation in lies. Though lies conceal everything, though lies embrace everything, but not with any help from me.
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So in our timidity, let each of us make a choice: Whether consciously, to remain a servant of falsehood—of course, it is not out of inclination, but to feed one’s family, that one raises his children in the spirit of lies—or to shrug off the lies and become an honest man worthy of respect both by one’s children and contemporaries.
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And he who is not sufficiently courageous even to defend his soul—don’t let him be proud of his “progressive” views, don’t let him boast that he is an academician or a people’s artist, a merited figure, or a general—let him say to himself: I am in the herd, and a coward. It’s all the same to me as long as I’m fed and warm.
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You say it will not be easy? But it will be easiest of all possible resources. It will not be an easy choice for a body, but it is the only one for a soul. Not, it is not an easy path. But there are already people, even dozens of them, who over the years have maintained all these points and live by the truth.
So you will not be the first to take this path, but will join those who have already taken it. This path will be easier and shorter for all of us if we take it by mutual efforts and in close rank. If there are thousands of us, they will not be able to do anything with us. If there are tens of thousands of us, then we would not even recognize our country.
If we are too frightened, then we should stop complaining that someone is suffocating us. We ourselves are doing it.
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Why should cattle have the gifts of freedom? Their heritage from generation to generation is the belled yoke and the lash.
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Now we know what got Hartiste’s twit feed snuffed:
http://voxday.blogspot.com/2015/07/when-sjws-attack.html
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Hey guys, google “Serena Williams panic room” for a bit of fun. I always laugh when the Williams sisters get included in “sexiest athletes” list. They’re injecting masculinity into themselves. That’s only sexy if you’re looking to get pegged.
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Just like it’s impossible for most guys to get “too big” by working out, it’s almost impossible for most women to get six pack abs. So, if a girl wants to shoot for that goal, have at it — it will most likely result in just a more toned mid-section, which is a good thing.
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Indeed!
While we’d all prefer women to look young forever, your wife will get older, and working out hardcore is a good way to prepare for that. Then her body can look like this:
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The 55 year old! En fuego!
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Yeah, given the opposite choice of must-be-jelly-cuz-jam-don’t-shake, the chocolate-bar abs are preferred. But the middle ground is best…
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My sugarbaby of six years started working out like a fiend a couple of years ago, is now a nationally qualified bikini body-builder, and is turning pro. There are some plusses and minuses. I totally agree about the six-pack, and her tits, which weren’t big before, have virtually evaporated. On the other hand, she has a rockin’ bubble butt now. Of course, she’s now 28, six years older, and she was the marquis girl in at least one strip club before I even met her, so its not like she wasn’t hot before.
On the whole, the only reason I call her transformation a positive to me is her status in the bodybuilding world; I particularly love the fact that on a Saturday, I could watch her come in first in a regional tourney, and by Thursday look down at her smothered in my load. Of course, its also the reason that if she’s ever going to marry me, I now probably have to wait an additional five years and therefore fuck my way through another 100-150 women, which sucks (sarcasm).
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Haha. Classic Dirk Johanson.
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Do I continue a soft next (a week now) with a girl who doesnt initiate because shes been hurt from me in the past and wants to see if i can “change” etc..
Whenever I hit her up every other week or so, it ends in sex/stayin’ overnight, but it’s getting to the point where I want her to initiate.
Should I shoot a text being like “if i have to text u everytime for us hookin up, im eventually gonna drop u”
or
“no good dick for u unless u initiate!”
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Never state ultimatums like that. You can simply work it into the conversation sometime that “Hey, you can suggest a time and day too, you know”. That shouldn’t be hard to do.
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You would text that?
Trying to bring the butthurt level to zero across text in a sitch like this is a bit of a cunt.
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Should clarify – this is more of a one and done final text – I don’t do small talk with her over text usually – I obtain logistics and set the time..
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I wasn’t thinking of a conversation through text. Talk about these things in person.
If you want to get out of the relationship, don’t do that over text either if you can avoid it. Anyway, it is best to not state complaints when you are breaking up. Don’t burn any bridges, you never know. And you never know who she knows, or what friends she will have in the future. Make it classy, you might benefit from that later.
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We’re FB’s at the moment.
She deserves a low investment text in my opinion.
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@tempus
“Do I continue a soft next (a week now) with a girl who doesnt initiate because shes been hurt from me in the past and wants to see if i can “change” etc..
Whenever I hit her up every other week or so, it ends in sex/stayin’ overnight, but it’s getting to the point where I want her to initiate.”
if you only contact her every other week or so, how does she even know that you are trying to ‘soft next’ her?…if you want her to chase you/initiate, you will have to raise your value to her (and stop playing in her frame)…and instill some form of dread/competition anxiety after that…let her know about your other plates…especially the hotter ones…lol…then tell her that you really like it when your girls contact you to set something up…she should get the hint…otherwise, a soft next is usually just ‘non-contact’ by you…giving an ultimatum/text breakup is called a ‘hard next’…bc there is no ambiguity…
“Should I shoot a text being like “if i have to text u everytime for us hookin up, im eventually gonna drop u”
or
“no good dick for u unless u initiate!””
to what end? what’s your goal? from your info, she seems like a pretty reliable FB…so, what else do you want from her?…also, do your other girls do this (non-contact)? or is she the only one?…
“She deserves a low investment text in my opinion.”
soooo, she’s not even worth the investment of a more substantive text, but she IS a girl that you want more of in your life?…lol…if you want YOU to be more to HER, SHE will have to be more to YOU (provided you hold your frame and handle her shit tests)…bc she’s definitely picking up on your subcomms…even i can taste the bitterness in your tone all the way across the interwebs…lol…not sure why you’re butthurt…
“Trying to bring the butthurt level to zero across text in a sitch like this is a bit of a cunt.”
that’s bc it’s not even possible to adjust the butthurt level down in this situ…at least with what you seem to be trying to do…
good luck!
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@tempus
in the stack…
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Thanks HABD.
My other girls don’t, however I’m not as emotionally invested in them as I am in her..
We’ve had a long history – we were exclusive for a couple years, with great sex.. There’s more info on my sitch doen below – I hijacked Sentient’s thread lol..
I’ve thought about all the scenarios you’ve mentioned in my head before – the one I wanna utilize is telling her other girls in my life don’t do this, tho that may come across tryhard to her after coming from an LTR to a FB status with her..
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same..lol
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“..then tell her that you really like it when your girls contact you to set something up…she should get the hint…”
Would it be fine if I texted her cold at the 10 day ghost point, and say “i like it when girls in my life contact me to set something up.”
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@tempus
ok, so you downgraded/demoted her from exclusive gf to fb…girls can put up with lots of stuff, but they don’t like to be demoted…
if you want more from her, she has to be able to see a way to ‘win’ (but you still have to stop chasing her, which will seem like she’s losing)…the most straight forward way to get there (her calling/initiating) is to ‘not be available’ (less emotional investment) a couple times bc other girls called you to set something up. that means you’ll have to flake on her, since she’s not calling you first. or you wait her out for a couple weeks til she does call…then reward her call with your attention = her winning (and chasing you)…
operant conditioning is always in play…both ways…lol…
good luck!
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Ah, ok.
She ended things with me, then contacted me.. went from there. She asked me once why I don’t chase her..
She wants me to so she can feel secure. Her words, not mine.
Does the above still apply?
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Reply in mod on the other thread…
This is the girl you got pregnant and she then aborted right?
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Yes. She was 21. Wants/loves kids. Talks about future with me – worried at me being in the military because that means she’ll be cheated on because in her eyes, being a cop and in the military means you will cheat.
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@tempus
who actually ended it doesn’t really matter to her hindbrain/hamster tag team…the only thing that’s concerned with is ‘superior genetics’ or not/superior provisioning capacity or not = hypergamy is always in play…
her feeling secure = her frame
i was going to write that fb might be the best you can do, given your history, but that conflicts with my knowledge of game (any girl/every girl… just have to figure out the puzzle…)…the only question is YOUR game tight enough…lol…
her contacting you first is good if she’s chasing you, but it doesn’t sound like that is completely in play.
it sounds like you are not leading her enough in the right direction (her initiating) and you seem to be lacking in building rapport/comfort with her – rapport = special connection with her…comfort = trust…
that’s understandable given the history, but you need to decide if your game is tight enough to open up to her while holding your frame solid…you’ll need to forgive her… and yourself… for whatever crap happened in the past that still isn’t resolved…
it’s not gonna be easy but that’s your choice (given human emotional realities…lol). you can’t get to where you want to go without getting over that bitterness that drips off your postings…you need to figure that out first…bc if a girl trusts you/has rapport with you, she’ll be secure in initiating/chasing you (sometimes too much…lol) bc she’ll KNOW you won’t shit on her if you get the chance…
good luck!
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All excellent info HABD – I’ll refer back to this for future ref..
So in conclusion – I wait a few more weeks? Text her in a couple days, being cool/aloof and start applying more comfort (which is my issue) or go ghost?
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Haha serena Williams is a tranny similar to Michael Obama
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Tranny.
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Her ring finger is shorter then her index finger which is a dead giveaway that she is man. Same with “michelle”. Aka michael Obama. Absolutely disgusting. Hips are wider shoulders are huge. Serena wins championships because she is tranny playing against women.
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You got it backwards. Ring finger shorter than index is typical of women. Ring finger longer than index is typical of men. And Serena is not a tranny; she’s a gorilla who also shoots roids, so she’s buffer than most human men.
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Talked to a female tennis player who has seen Serena Williams play and talked to other women in the sport. Serena Williams doesn’t have any particularly good technique, she wins tennis matches simply because she can hit the ball harder, like a man.
You might as well compete against a horse in running, or against a sperm whale in swimming. Of course the horse and the sperm whale will win, but what does it matter? They are not in the same category as you. They belong to different species, which are good at running and swimming, but so what?
It’s like when the Chinese government combs through its empire to find genetic abnormalities that work out well in a sport. A few years back they had a “female” swimmer in her teens, who looked like a box. Truly abnormally shaped body, but it happened to work well in the water. But so what? It’s not what sports are about. They are about humans competing as a celebration of what our human society can do, among other things. It is about encouraging young members of our people to work hard, because they get to see other members of our people work hard and succeed. To see genetic freaks from other categories of mammals is inconsequential. It misses the point entirely.
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My god.
Is that real?
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wood berry
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My bad, your right I did get them mixed up.. now that I take a good look at this picture, she does look like a gorilla.. rather disgusting.. I’ve met girls that used to be hot and they become very hardcore into fitness and usually training for a competition, they take anavar, and they exhibit masculine traits, sculpted delts a deeper voice, no titties and they lose the hour glass figure, they have the body of a really ripped 16 year old…they never understand why I turn them down, this one chick even called herself alpha and was bragging about her 2 plate a side deadlift, in laughed in her face and never talked to her again.
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Not much in the ab department, but pretty sexy.
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Enjoy reading your comments, brother. Have learned/applied a lot from you. Cheers.
What are your thoughts re: my situation above. Would be appreciated.
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Tempus. Are you the guy in the Canadian MP school?
The problem you have isn’t with her it’s with you… You want her to chase you which means you’re needy. Needy = weak and women despise weakness…
So I’d work on your neediness and validation issues. You know what kind of guys women chase? Dynamic, passionate and authentic guys. Guys with options.
You can’t project male logic onto women. You’re into her so it makes sense to reach out to her and you expect the same from her to you. But you will have more success in making her chase you by ignoring her, her seeing you with other girls, being busy doing cool stuff.
Remember it’s never about YOU with women. Its always ALWAYS about them. You are just a channel for her feeling emotions of the moment or time. How can she feel anything if she is just doing what you tell her you want or need? That’s a mother’s job not a lover’s job.
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See, there’s the rub – I do have options (I’m seeing other girls) and I have the time now to hit up beaches/cottage/down south – got recoursed after blowing out my shoulder.. here til April..
The way I see it is: I have 2-3 plates, not including her, I keep myself busy on my off days.. Is it wrong for me to initiate her every 10-14 days with positive results.. I was thinking that wasn’t right, but if the outcome turns in my favour, is that chasing, or is it being the man and taking the lead..
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Why initiate at all with her? How will she chase you otherwise? Move past your oneitis…
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Why initiate at all?
Well, the sex has never been better, she’s wetter than shes even been. She sits me down, turns on her music and dances for me, trying to seduce me, leading to sex. She happily fixes me drinks, and gets butthurt when I don’t cuddle her.
She wants me to initiate because she’s a) insecure b) knows I have other girls c) etc.. I quit listening after that lol
In my opinion, if the results are there, and if I have to be the one that initiates, so be it.
That’s why going ghost is difficult in with this sitch.
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@Tempus Fuckit
you said earlier that she she doesn’t initiate because shes been hurt from you in the past and wants to see if you can change.
what was she hurt over and what does she want you to change?
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Too much asshole game. Not congruent. We’re still attracted/fucking because I was never full beta, and I knew my value.
Change my asshole game into charming asshole game. It’s getting there – however if her attitude goes south, I’ll lay the hammer down no hesitation.
Could just be a flake excuse on her part, but we’re brutally honest and open with eachother, so I doubt it.
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Tempus – “Could just be a flake excuse on her part, but we’re brutally honest and open with each other, so I doubt it.”
This is the same girl you got pregnant and she had an abortion? Then called you when she was having trouble living on her own without parental support? Right? I think you posted under other names in the past.
Same answer for you though, you have oneitis for her… and she will have a host of issues in dealing with the abortion. It seems that both are you are in denial. Best bet is to go and get with lots of other girls, get over your oneitis and need for validation from her.
Good luck.
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So fresh and so clean!
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Six pack or not that is irrelevant what we must seek above all is intelligence,
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No, physical quality is not irrelevant. Beauty is extremely important to us. There is not a single object in your home where aesthetics haven’t been considered when deciding its shape and color. Why else would it have a color at all? We need aesthetically pleasing stimulation or we can’t live. And that is especially true when it comes to other human beings, as our instincts have been honed for tens of thousands of years in a way that makes us sensitive to the human shape – drawn to beauty, repulsed by ugliness.
A video about a “dumb blonde”. You buy into the Jewish media owners’ meme there. Funny how they don’t have a “dumb Blacks” meme. And funny how “blondes” are the only category named as a noun instead of an adjective. You are not allowed to say Jews, you must say “a Jewish person”. Not Blacks, but “a Black person”. “A Chinese person” instead of a Chinese. “A gay man” instead of a homosexual. So that the noun is always person, man, woman – emphasizing that this person is the same as you.
Except for people with blond hair. Then it is “a blonde”. To make it sound like this is someone separate from the viewer. Someone who must be thought of as The Other. And of course, someone who must be mocked and hated. So blonde women are falsely labeled stupid, even though their average IQ is far higher than the average IQ of the world’s dark-haired women. And blond men are portrated as evil psychopaths in movie after movie. Star Wars was long ago – if those first movies had been made today the main character would never have been a blond man.
It is no coincidence that albinos are portrayed in a monstrous way by Hollywood – even though every other “minority” is praised, and especially those with a handicap. People are taught this way to think of white traits as something disturbing and evil. So there is the monstrous albino gladiator in the anti-White Spartacus TV show, for example. The albino-looking Wraith monsters in the Stargate: Atlantis series. (With two tough Blacks among the main characters fighting them, natch.) And The Others in A Song of Ice and Fire (A Game of Thrones when it’s in TV form) are white with blue eyes – there is no reason for this whatsoever, except that George R. R. Martin is a leftist Hollywood script writer who knows how to make sure his propaganda books will get a TV show.
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Great analysis. I take back the vodka cran joke. You are dead on about how hateful Hollywood is towards anything too white. The movie The Heat had numerous jokes about albinos. Talk about ppl being discriminated against. Nobody on the left stood up for them. They’re such cowards.
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Case in point…
who cares about this…
When you have this…
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hehe arbiter I think you crossed the border where paranoia takes over reason and normal awareness about world around you
The video was shot and uploaded by her husband, that thing is stupid to the
bone and beyond repair
My opinion on blondes it is not based on Hollywood which products I do not consume but on real life samples I crossed my path with
I do not want stupid things around me I can cope for a short period of time
if I there is something to be gained in return but that is as far as I can go
Nobody mentioned blacks or albinos yet you are all worked up, screaming and shouting
Pull yourself together asshole you became a caricature with your long rants and total lack of any sense of irony or sarcasm
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Well said, bravo.
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seriously – you will have more to speak about with her than any women’s studies PhD, biologist or whatever…. Guys think they are going to have all these deep conversations with their LTR “4 eva”… LOL. even if they are intellectually capable there simply won’t be much time after you have kids and are managing the logistics of work and family life. Your interests are bound to diverge from hers and vice versa. 80% of your conversation will be the business of a LTR and logistics.
Don’t kid yourself. If you can look into those baby blue eyes 20 years from now and she stays slim and sexy… it won’t matter what comes out of her mouth at all. Only what goes in… And how often LOL.
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FWIW – these kinds of pretty girls are hugely easy to game… Never ever ever mention looks except as a burden. They just want to be taken really seriously and get a little non physical affirmation.
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Yeah, I’ve totally seen this. Young men have been trained to think of women as ugly unless they have six-pack abs. I posted a photo of a beauty competition not long ago (the ordinary kind, not super-fashion model) and men came out and called all the women ugly and flabby. When I pointed out that these were healthy young women in their peak attractiveness years, they simply stated that they were “skinny-fat” and they wouldn’t date any of them. Sure, it’s internet tough guy talk, but still. A lot of them agreed. It’s sad.
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I read something the other day that seemed to strike a chord. “Women want to fuck the men they wish they could be.”
Could have something to do with the six-pack abs trend. Women are trying to BE like the men they wish they could be (i.e. the men they want to fuck). Girls seem to have been brainwashed into thinking that men find the same traits that they find attractive in men, attractive in them. Bossy. Domineering. Professionally successful. Six-pack abs. Etc.
After all, if gender is just a social construct, and we’re all the same deep down, then obviously guys are going to want exactly the same things in the opposite sex that THEY want. Right?
Feminism. The gift that keeps on giving.
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lol out loud at people who think abs=strength
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Love those pics, Arbiter. I like fit women with sleek, flat bellies. I like a bit of muscle tone in her abs quite a bit.
When you’re 20 and hot, you got (genetically) lucky, if you’re 30 and sleek, you earned that body.
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buddies at work always sending me pics of chicks with bigger arms than me, and 8 pack abs asking me if i’d hit that…
.. i keep telling them no.. i don’t want to have sex with a man.
I understand ‘fit’ is apparently the new ‘sexy’ but what they fail to grok is that sexy is in the eye of the beholder and you can’t dictate what i find sexy.. only i know what is sexy to me.
And a vagina housed in the body of a man ain’t it. Femininity matters.
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it’s actually pretty difficult for women (or men, even) to naturally get deeply defined six pack abs. it requires years of dedicated training, meticulous attention to diet, and great genetics. the vast majority of the population don’t have this combination so they have to get help from big pharma.
anavar’s ahelluva drug…
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Reblogged this on MGTOW 2.0.
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Not photoshopped:
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A particular ratio of muscular and dermal body fat confers optimum fertility. Fertility equals beauty. Lean bitches are whack. Ain’t nothin goin on there. If it ain’t juicy, it ain’t ripe. If it ain’t ripe, it ain’t food. Anything else is an aberration, an illusion or a mindfuck.
This world will never know a thing more electric than a young, juicy Laeticia Costa.
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The lean phenomena is about control. It’s about bitches wanting to be in control of their beauty, like they want to be in control of everything else. But alas it was not meant to be. For indeed the harvest season is brief.. as gaia intended it to be. That which burns white-hot, does not burn sustained..
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