One hundred and one Chateau patrons slipped this juicy omega male shitlibbery — “What Open Marriage Taught One Man About Feminism” — into the combox for cathartic evisceration by yours unduly. The story concerns a “Mr.” “Michael Sonmore” (scare quote usage to become clear in a moment) who professes to an open sexual relationship with his wife and a full awareness and acceptance of his cuckoldry.
As I write this, my children are asleep in their room, Loretta Lynn is on the stereo, and my wife is out on a date with a man named Paulo. It’s her second date this week; her fourth this month so far. If it goes like the others, she’ll come home in the middle of the night, crawl into bed beside me, and tell me all about how she and Paulo had sex. I won’t explode with anger or seethe with resentment. I’ll tell her it’s a hot story and I’m glad she had fun. It’s hot because she’s excited, and I’m glad because I’m a feminist.
Mmhmm. This rings authentic.

When I quit working to stay at home with the kids, I began to understand it on a whole new level. I am an economically dependent househusband coping with the withering drudgery of child-rearing. Now that I understand the reality of that situation, I don’t blame women for demanding more for themselves than the life of the housewife.
LOL. So transparent. Male feminists don’t parade their sickly ids in public quite so pitch perfectly. AlexPareeniks, manlets extraordinaire, usually whip up their self-flagellation with a leavening dollop of bitter regret for betraying the last vestiges of their masculinity.
She didn’t present it as an issue of feminism to me, but after much soul-searching about why the idea of my wife having sex with other men bothered me I came to a few conclusions: Monogamy meant I controlled her sexual expression, and, not to get all women’s-studies major about it, patriarchal oppression essentially boils down to a man’s fear that a woman with sexual agency is a woman he can’t control. We aren’t afraid of their intellect or their spirit or their ability to bear children. We are afraid that when it comes time for sex, they won’t choose us. This petty fear has led us as a culture to place judgments on the entire spectrum of female sexual expression: If a woman likes sex, she’s a whore and a slut; if she only likes sex with her husband or boyfriend, she’s boring and lame; if she doesn’t like sex at all, she’s frigid and unfeeling. Every option is a trap.
This paragraph is the crone giveaway. A bitter, lonely cat lady wrote this article as a hoax to fellate her scorched ego and lash out at all the men who pass her by or use her up. True, the lowliest of lowly men COULD have written such excrescence, but the way to bet is that an insol spinster with delusions of vengeance and… sexual agency (heh)… fantasized this whole scenario into existence. She hits too many jargony femcunt talking points too squarely on the whiskered nose. Madonna/whore double standard? Check. Alpha fux/beta bux strategy justification? Check. Anti-judgmentalism? Check. Patriarchal oppression? Check. Dismissing as cultural baggage the real, primal, biologically-founded fear men have for cheating wives who might get pregnant by another man and foist their bastard spawn on them as their own? Checkold.
The point is that it should be women who choose, not men — even the men they’re married to. For my wife, the choice between honoring our vows and fulfilling her desires was a false choice, another trap. She knew how deep our love was, and knew that her wanting a variety of sexual experiences as we traveled through life together would not diminish or disrupt that love. It took me about six months — many long, intense conversations, and an ocean of red wine — before I knew it, too.
This paragraph contains the second crone giveaway. No man nurses his depression with “an ocean of red wine”. He hits the hard stuff or the beer. Spinster cat ladies, licensed to psychologically project! B-U-S-T-E-D. Great job, Michelle Eatmore.
It does work both ways and, yes, I too enjoy sexual carte blanche. I just don’t use mine as much as my wife uses hers. What’s important is equality of opportunity, not outcome.
How convenient for your imaginary heroine, Michelle. PS Equality of opportunity doesn’t apply to the sexual market because women have a near-monopolistic advantage on sexual commerce (which when they indulge decreases the value of their commitment market value, but femcunts don’t want to hear that part).
Update
Reader NothingMan00 adds,
I plugged each of the paragraphs presented here into the Gender Guesser:
http://www.hackerfactor.com/GenderGuesser.html#Analyze
It guessed female writer for each, assuming the piece is an example of “formal” writing.
Another commenter astutely pointed out that no man would worry more about his wife “falling in love” with another man than about his wife fucking another man. This is pure, distilled bitterbitch psychological projection.

I think it’s a sphincter hoax.
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Cue da GBFM with hozzaxkbutthexting.
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Re. the update. Genderguesser type sites should be known to any published, paid, writers. Similar to plagiarism detection sites. Editors should certainly be aware, lest the fakery be so easily exposed.
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Off topic, this is a great link I found on Patriactionary. Wish we could spread these “memes” here in the west.
Indian magazine launches #DontManCriminate campaign
https://patriactionary.wordpress.com/2015/07/22/indian-magazine-launches-dontmancriminate-campaign/
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well done, I have to agree that this reads more like an attempt at hitting every feminist talking point and then showcasing the feminist agenda’s success in a relationship in as short of space as possible. it may even have been a man that wrote it but it is fictional and meant for propaganda and lashing out.
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Related to the update about genderguesser. I’m somewhat perplexed that published writers aren’t aware of such sites. Shouldn’t the editor have knowledge of genderguesser type sites and the possibility of fakery being so easily exposed? Then again, when the person who stole my car was caught and jailed, the prosecutor hadn’t even checked the criminal’s facebook page for any info. The info I found helped to lengthen their sentence at least. I realize that we don’t live in a world of ‘should’. Cheers
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“Shouldn’t the editor have knowledge of genderguesser type sites and the possibility of fakery being so easily exposed?”
The editor and owner of the publication most likely know its a fraud. It might even be their idea. It’s their way of attacking white men and their families. The people responsible for that article know that the general public has no idea of the genderguesser website. The general public won’t even think that the article could be a hoax. The general public doesn’t understand that the media, which is largely owned by a hostile elite, is deliberately trying to undermine and destroy the host culture.
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I’ve been Greg Elioted. Everything ending up in stack.
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Genderguesser is something these so-called writers and editors should be know about. Nobody does research.
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Reframe.
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Which is preferable to getting John Thomas’ed.
/tip o’ the bowler to our limey friends ‘cross the Pond
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The dead giveaway was “Paolo”. I mean, come on, that’s a classic case of psychological projection right there. SHE wishes she was with “Paolo”.
Well, I suppose not projection, because that’s projecting your negative thoughts onto others while this is projecting a fantasy. Whatever it’s called.
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” A bitter, lonely cat lady wrote this article as a hoax to fellate her scorched ego and lash out at all the men who pass her by or use her up”
Them spinsters gotta spin
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[…] By CH […]
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http://www.whiterockkitchens.com/?tag=michael-sonmore
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One problem we had with Sabrina Erd down at UVA was she threw her fucking hate-fem shit in her article, projecting away. Do you think the pledges would call Jackie “it” during our little games? Nah, we called her slam-pig, duh.
Anyway…like Jackie and things that didn’t happen…no fucking goober let’s Paolo pound his wife and then dribble it out listening to the deets later.
monogamy is a social construct used 2 restrict blippity blah blah? Fer reals? A man said this? Most sad marriages are like, from the guy’s perspective:
“we met, you let me have sex with you and then u insisted we get married after you snuck into my house and never left”
So, I rate this article two-September Pledge Rape Parties for its obvious liying lies.
[CH: “two september pledge rape parties” ha.]
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Agreed, the article is a compete hoax. The byline oughta read “A. Sasquatch”
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I tore a damn abdominal muscle laughing at the ingenuous pledge rape party scale of deception.
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oh i thought most sad marriages were like:
‘we met, i knocked you up, your dad convinced me to marry you under threat of shotgun death, then i found out later my paternity may be in question due to the baby coming out mulatto’
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here it is. Marriage from most guy’s perspective…
“I used to see you outside of my father’s store, and then we went on some dates, and then you let me have sex with you.”
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Check and mate, mate.
I’d give you a tip o’ the ten gallon, but all you really did is shoot day-old fish in a barrel.
The Invisible Man was never so transparent.
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Excellent. Sadly, I can still imagine a beta cuckboy writing it.
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Same here. I do suspect that it’s a troll job, but I’m sure there are male feminist cuck fetishists who use feminism to rationalize their looney tunes attitudes and who parrot feminist talking points.
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I get the point that the article has telltale signs that give away that it was really written by a fat, unloved, dessert-gorging, feminist womyn on a mission to smash patriarchy.
The sad part is, ‘male feminists’ are so far gone by now, it is entirely believable that a life form with XY chromosomes could have written it.
Example:
A half-a-feygele SJW wrote this in response to Jerry Seinfeld’s refusal to play college audiences.
“As college students who are engaged in a myriad of social, economic, and political issues, it’s our duty to be actively engaged and educated about issues of sexism, racism and prejudice….yes, Mr. Seinfeld, we college students are politically correct. We will call out sexism and racism if we hear it. But if you’re going to come to my college and perform in front of me, be prepared to write up a set that doesn’t just offend me, but has something to say.”
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/anthony-berteaux/jerry-seinfeld-politcally-correct-college-student_b_7540878.html
It could have been written by a womyn…because no man who is unafraid of his sexuality could write it.
The manginas are doing all they can to make their cause sound ‘genderless’. Because coming across identifiably as a man would be patriarchal, oppressive, and antithetical to the approved anti-racist, anti-capitalist, anti-sexist, LGBTQWERTY equalist dogmas.
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Hackett, that sounds like something that a bot would write. I could automate the entire intellectual weight of the SJW left by writing a code in Python. I’m not a programmer. It still wouldn’t take me more than a week. lol
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GTFOOH… this is just wrong… I think this is an Omega that wishes he had a wife hot enough for another man to want to bed…
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All of those SJW’ish hoaxes reveal their authors’ childlike solipsism. Namely, a failure to anticipate the fact that people perceptive and will most certainly see through the facade of the false persona.
Though to her credit, she did remove references to “curled toes” and to herself as “this alpha.”
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Okay, I actually did laugh-out-loud at that shiv… well-played.
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Outstanding, PA.
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I lol’d hard, good one
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[…] Bottom-Of-The-Barrel Cuckold Fetishist, Or Spinster Hoax? […]
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Superb write up, CH. This is a tidal wave of logic and reason crashing across a parched desert of asinine fucktardedness. Up there with your very best.
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“an ocean of red wine”. Hahaha. Bitch please.
Not even the faggiest of blue state metrosexuals raised in Europe. Sorry.
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They can’t help but tell on themselves… two reasons:
1) Solipsism that has nuked self-awareness from orbit, and turned the hamster into a Capybara.
2) Imbued in a PC-rich atmosphere that is never challenged by immediate company and mainstream media.
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“…turned the hamster into a Capybara.”
I gotta save that for the “smart” feminist women, perhaps with a reference to “The Tick.”
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That’s the giveaway. When either sex wants to get hammered, women go for the wine whereas men pick beer or hard liquor.
I suspect it’s because wine, especially sweet wine, is more like those girly cocktails they like to order when they go out. (Dry wine seems intrinsically manlier somehow, and I do indeed much prefer it over sweet wine.)
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The female author of this thinks that manly men drink red wine. Chances are, she’s never actually been around a manly man for more than 5 minutes.
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The reality is that manly men don’t give a fuck about what others think of their drinks. lol
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Red wine. Hah. I can see her hate-laughing through her stained teeth, conjuring this fantasy cuckfest.
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One bourbon. One scotch. One beer.
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Things could be worse…Their neighbor could be this crazy lady. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Ml2QhiR3bo
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Shut
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Shut up? Did you forget the up?
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This wife in this article lives by the code of, “Cockle doodle do, any cock will do. What an idiot husband. Their kids probably are not his.
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Your
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No.
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Je suis une femme Alpha
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Look at this Canadian woman? That poor Greg guy. http://takimag.com/article/shame_or_something_like_it_kathy_shaidle/print
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I see gaseous superstructures with free exfoliation in your future.
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Your’s too my friend. 🙂
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Pass me the apostrophe shaker….this soup needs a little something.
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Darn, I hate grammar. I hate to say this because I rarely say it to most men, but you are right! I screwed up the ‘yours’. Oh well, arrest me!
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Hopefully you read this story too. Go figure, another Obama but buddy. Always: Donna
http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2015/07/judge_denies_gay_activist_terr.html
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Yap
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I sent that from my email. Hmm. My blonde roots are showing.
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way
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I was skeptical.
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from the article…”if she only likes sex with her husband or boyfriend, she’s boring and lame”
said no man ever
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Yes, that claim was absolutely bizarre.
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Spot on
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Where the fuck did she come up with that idea? Just something ugly, lonely chics might tell themselves. Maybe in an attempt to rationalize their round heels.
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Rodney Dangerfield :
My wife, she likes to talk during sex.
The other night she called me from a hotel.
Ta-doom-tish.
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And another: “my wife says she wants to have sex in the back seat of the car. but she wants ME to drive!”
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Another one from RD
My wife made me join a bridge club. I jump off next Tuesday
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RD: My wife turned lesbian and ran off with another woman… I don’t understand how they can have sex, with both of them on the bottom.
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“My girlfriend told me to come on over, nobody was home. Heh heh. I rushed over. Nobody was home!”
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I can accept some idiot woman’s transparent hoax essay. But I’m (((Shakin My Haid))) at the lack of judgment shown by putatively professional editors who green lighted this. Must be women all the way up.
[CH: “Must be women all the way up.” the problem in a nut(less)shell.]
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Green-lighted? Hell, the (ahem) professional editors commissioned it.
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Hey Greg, Is the following you in this story? http://takimag.com/article/shame_or_something_like_it_kathy_shaidle/print
What a small world, if it is. She sounds wicked.
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Nah, that poor schlub has two t’s in Eliott…
And as I’ve remarked on previous threads in re this case, if they gave him jail time for his words to SJWs and fems, they’d probably give me the chair.
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“She knew how deep our love was, and knew that her wanting a variety of sexual experiences as we traveled through life together would not diminish or disrupt that love.”
Hogwash. This is the last stop before she leaves you. Get divorced now while you are unemployed, keep the kids, and she’ll be paying you alimony and child support. #FewFuxFan
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Nah they’ll impute his income, give the kids to his ex wife and assign child support accordingly.
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This.
A buddy of mine got reamed by his (ex)wife. He found out she was cheating. She wanted an open marriage. They have 3 kids. He said “erm, no.” They got divorced.
She held a JD from a top school. But unlucky for him (or maybe she planned it?) she hadn’t been working for years. She got half, the kids and massive “child support” and “alimony.” It’s like he’s a slave.
His dream was to exit the corporate grind and start a biz. So he did. Part of the reason was he was sick of knowing that half his productive labor was going to support his cheating ex so she could remodel her kitchen and continue not to work.
She got a judgment against him that he “should be making X”. Then the court ordered him to pay a big % of X to her. Never mind his new business was in startup mode and losing money.
This is slavery by any other name.
Marriage used to be a contract. Now it’s a joke.
I got a pre-nup before getting married. My lawyer gave me some great advice — “Ain’t no prenup in the world will protect you if she’s a bad one. Choose carefully.”
Avoid sluts, fembots, “strong” women like the plague (pumps/dumps excepted, of course). Look for traditional, non-lawyer, non-career women who can cook and enjoy a traditional role and value marriage. Dalrock has some awesome advice for testing women here: https://dalrock.wordpress.com/2014/12/04/a-simple-test/
“One test I would offer is to ask a prospective wife what she would teach your future children about divorce. Would she teach them that “Sometimes marriages just don’t work out”, etc? Or would she teach them that divorce is unacceptable (with depending on your faith perhaps some very selective and well defined exceptions)?
As I’ve written about before, when our daughter was around 4 years old we were at a Thanksgiving dinner and one of the kids there told our daughter his parents were divorced because “sometimes mommies and daddies stop loving each other”. We didn’t know what was up, but our daughter was terrified for several days and kept looking for reassurance that my wife and I still loved each other. Once we found out what had happened we explained that the boy was mistaken, and his mommy was a brat who broke their family because she was unhappy. Once our daughter understood that her home wasn’t at risk for the fate that befell the poor boy she slept fine at nights.
Tell a prospective wife about this story you read on the internet and see how she responds. Specifically, look to see who she instinctively protects when she hears the story. Does she instinctively want to protect the innocent girl, or the guilty woman?”
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An excellent question.
Another good test, especially for allegedly Christian women, is having her view the movie Fireproof and then discerning her impression of the wife.
If she says anything along the lines of the wife’s reactions being “understandable”… or even (shudder) “justifiable”… don’t walk away… run.
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@Moses: Yes, but in your story the woman wasn’t working. In this one (whether it’s a hoax or not) the man quit working to stay home with the kids. “He” says he is economically dependent. Whether or not he agreed to this open marriage thing, no fault divorce, baby. Gonna start cutting the other way. Look out, women. You wanna work like men, you’re gonna start getting divorced like them too.
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Moses, you’re wrong on this one. If he’s currently unemployed and she’s working, even if he has the potential to earn, it won’t matter and she will be in the position in which your buddy is. The family law isn’t anti-male in itself, it simply has a disparate impact against men because we do that nasty working bit more.
It’s so great being European. In my country, if you show your wife didn’t work and you earned everything, you keep most of what you made. Sure, the presumption is that she deserves half, but if you show she only sat on her ass while you hired a maid and earned millions, she’ll get very little. Not to mention that anything you inherit, intellectual property, awards(including winning the lottery, I think lol). Not to mention that when you marry, you can exclude all your assets out of the joint assets pool, all future assets included. You can essentially keep only what you actually use with the wife as a part of the marital assets(e.g. you will split some apartment with her, but everything else on your name is yours). You can also include assets that she wouldn’t have the right to such as potential inheritances, but I don’t think anyone does that.
Or you can go the marriage with division of assets rule where your estates are never merged. This means that from a financial perspective, you are never married. The problem is that if you buy her a house, she keeps it. Mind you, all this happened in the last few years. Before you divided what you earned during marriage and kept everything from before and after, unless you proved she didn’t contribute as much. I can’t wait for a high profile divorce to happen to see what happens under the various rules.
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Same deal with ‘Blue Valentine ‘, which had a very limited release here in Japan. We got free tickets and there was a survey afterwards. One of the questions was whether you sympathized with Dean or with the cheating wife. I looked at my wife’s answer sheet, saw that she sympathized with Dean and was disgusted by the girl, and told her that she had just been tested and that she passed. Most women here were appalled at how he was treated, which gave me hope for this country.
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I wish you would have posted this a couple of days ago. There has been a lot of other alt-right and manosphere writings about the OP but they were taking it at face value like a cuck wrote it.
I saw something via twitter that led to (I think) MPC where they were jumping on not being able to source the bio of the writer, like there was no such person, certainly not at NY mag. And that was pretty early on. So I pretty believed it was fucking click bait, purposely written to piss of men and drive traffic.
But the CH piece is the first one not only to call the piece out as BS but humiliate it as femcunt projection. I think a lot of people took it at face value because this aparently has been “Cuck Month” with cuck being the word used both in writing about extremely base behavior in females and then twitter shitposters calling all the GOP and conservatives “cucks” for stances on immigration and race. So all the essays have been attacking the “man” or the culture or “women”. In fact, I would say, especially if the piece is a fraud, that NY Mag did a huge disservice to women, because a ton of men that were exposed to it said, “And another fucking reason that today’s women are fucking cunts and another reason to stick it to women whenever possible.”
But if CH had come out with this piece early in the cycle then other writers would have jumped on the piece as a fraud and alt-right readers that maybe don’t have the intellectual stones and extremely good taste to be regular readers of CH might have gotten an instruction on what this sort of fraud looks like and would be prepared to call the shit out the next time it happens. And given the sheer success of this piece of shit for NY mag, it will happen again.
I think CH was greatly responsible in the debunking of the UVa rape hoax. Sailer and that other guy (the one that wrote the original taking apart of it) might have been instrumental in attacking the piece. But I think CH laid the real groundwork to where a whole lot of men had been educated on what false rape looked like and what the fucking mindset and motivations of the false rape claimant might be. So then when those two writers put their claims out there, men were immediately receptive and prepared to understand in a manner they might not have had CH not done the initial bombardment as well as he did.
So these sorts of sensationalist pieces of click bait shit will only stop, or least marginalized in the damage they do, once men understand the form and the “voice” to look for. Too bad the real effect of what could have done with this piece as a “teachable moment” may have passed given how short the attention span is of the internet.
But hats off for the insight in this piece. I had only suspected that it was fraudulent, and really only when the MPC guys pointed out the questions about the author, but not really had the smarts to see the female voice and projection in it.
So next time I will.
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Mark,
Go home to your wife.
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They both here, enjoying a night at the chateau. 😉
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Their date night is Wednesday??
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Hump daaaaay!
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Ha!
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Kate keeps calling me Paulo…I’m starting to like it…
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Anyone with a functioning male brain determined the UVA piece by Trolling Stones was shitthatdidnthappen.txt immediately. That CH, Sailer, MPC, and other arrived at the same conclusions in parallelis no surprise. All three form a nexus of male thought
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The part about the guy she was cheating with being named “Paulo” was the giveaway for me. But my theory was that it was a guy sneaking manosphere tropes into the article to see how absurd he could make it while still being taken seriously by feminists.
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Back in the 70s he was named “Raoul”.
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Joyce was onto the ridiculous name in the cuck context a hundred years ago — All the dollar bills her husband gave her were spent in the stores on wondrous gowns and costliest frillies. For him! For Raoul!
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Feminists are such lying disgusting pieces of shit. Well done.
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to dwell on this, the set-up is these two have an open relationship. Hubby could and does get trim on the side, just not so much as he could, out of respek for his wife who is neck deep in dongs? Nope, he prefers to wank it to stories if what happens to his wife. Right. Milo was right, if this were real, it’s the confession of a closeted man.
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So I’m not accused of being a feminist or a cuckold fetishist, let me first say I think “open relationships” are disgusting and I would never agree to any arrangement like that. But, doesn’t this guy have a point when he talks about a male desire to control female sexuality being rooted in fear?
Think about it — in this day of STD tests, contraception, and DNA tests, is there any purely practical reason to have a problem with your wife or girlfriend having sex with another man? But, if I’m in a relationship with someone I care about, the thought of her being with another man, even if it was before I ever met her, disgusts me to the core. Does anyone else feel that way and doesn’t that seem to be a visceral reaction rooted deep within the subconscious mind? Why is it there and where does it come from?
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If it is your wife or girlfriend, then that means you committed to her in a meaningful way. If she has sex with someone else, she is not committed to you in any meaningful way. It would mean that the relationship is a sham and is over. Her body, which you committed your resources to her so you could have, she gave to someone else for free. So in a way, you are less important to you wife than the random dude she fucked.
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That’s true and that’s an understandable reason why someone would be upset if they were cheated on in what they thought was a committed relationship. But, that still doesn’t explain why most men are naturally repulsed at the idea of an open relationship where no expectation of fidelity exists.
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As long as no resources are given to her, I agree that an open relationship isn’t a bad thing, or even a good thing for the man. But a situation – such as the marriage described in the article – where a man is giving his exclusive provisioning (whatever provisioning may mean for that particular man) and love to one woman and isn’t getting all of the sexual returns on that investment is just a bad investment. The gender-reversed version might be a man keeping multiple women in one household, splitting his relationship efforts and provisioning between the two and regularly fucking both of them, although the women in that situation might not be as troubled with that situation due to the inherent preselection making the man appear more socially valuable to them.
[CH: very VERY few (white) men are OK with sexually sharing their women. this goes for PUAs as well. i’ve met maybe one man who seemed at least superficially at ease with the knowledge that one of his lovers was fucking around on the side. but he was an eccentric, manifesting a lot of unusual verbal tics and mannerisms.
A top kek alpha male doesn’t share his bounty. his concubines are so in love with him they can’t imagine stepping out.]
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all my relationships are open. not disgusting at all.
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Good for you. But it sounds like your definition of a “relationship” is just someone you are having sex with. You really wouldn’t care if you were in a relationship with a girl you really cared about and she was banging other guys? That just seems weird.
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Not at all. i said MY relationships are open. My GIRLS know the rules. But see, there are a million of them, and one of me. One.
People act how they can.
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Have you mastered the art of felching, tilly boy tilly goat?
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What an unsurprisingly reductive and unimaginative comment!
Bet the girls love….your wallet.
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Did I disturb your inner and outer body shapes, otherkin?
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Yes you silly goose! Your heteronormative cisgendered biases decelebrated my inner and outer bodyshapes.
You kinda sound like a cuckservative btw. Is that how you identify?
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Tilikum, the only things open in your (ahem) relationships are your yap… and the sluts’ legs.
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Don’t you have daughters? At any rate, how could anyone trust a guy with two front names?
hate the game not the player!
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Gregk, you neet to take some more lezzonz in ze anatomy of females and in human zexuality. A vuman has sree orificez zat are commonly uzed in zex. Any of zose may be open az vell az a vuman’s legks.
Freudian rape!
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Til, in my neighborhood, Eliot ain’t no first name. And just to keep the record straight (yet again), I only have one daughter, but three sons. Stop on by Schloss Eliot some day… the boys and I will enjoy the sudden respectful demeanor you display around the distaff side of the family.
And ads, your Freudian slip is showing.
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Greg, a gentleman wouldn’t notice. heh What’s a little cross-dressing between friends? I might have the title for a new pop country song!
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Fear is emotions speaking, fine-tuned through generations and generations.
If you have no plans to reproduce, then true, you don’t need to worry about raising someone else’s offspring.
Your woman’s emotions, however, might not be so rational. Simply put, a woman is going to be repulsed by a man who’s willing to be cuckolded.
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“if I’m in a relationship with someone I care about, the thought of her being with another man”
perfectly normal when you care about someone. if you don’t care, she’s not very valuable to you.
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…are you joking?
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About what?
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“a male desire to control female sexuality” is from my take rooted in matriarchy – yes, matriarchy. This is not fear, it’s up-front exploration of the alotted dynamics of that element of the relationship. Might be subconsciously rooted, but so is the sun and ritual itself.
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Men aren’t repulsed by open relationships, they’re repulsed by the idea of committing resources to sluts. I can’t speak for other men, but:
1)I don’t mind open relationships insofar as they’re open one way. I fuck other girls, they fuck only me.
2)I don’t mind sluts. The girl I’m fucking is a cheating slut. I don’t care, but I’d never have a relationship with her. She gets my dick wet, I make her cum. Fair deal.
3)I do mind investing money into sluts because if they leave, and they will eventually(or you’ll want them to leave), all that money(and time) is a sunk cost.
4)Since time is money, easy sluts are preferable to difficult sluts. I wouldn’t mind wasting 3 dates or whatever on a girl that’s marriage material, but with sluts it’s silly.
To sum it up though, it’s men not being pathetic suckers that commit their time and energy to women who are flight risks or who don’t otherwise deserve it.
Not to mention that STD testing is stupid. Not only there is a lag in getting something and it being found, if I have to put up with the hassle of them, I might as well be banging whores. They stay the same age and they’re relatively cheap in my country. A friend has been to one that’s $40/h and she’s hot. Rather than spend money on some stupid, out of shape girl, travel to Asia or Eastern Europe and go to brothels. Better bang for your buck.
And DNA testing? If I’m to mix my sperm up with other guys and the like, I’ll go jerk off in a cup at a clinic and either donate it or have some woman be a surrogate or whatever else. Relationships should make your life easier, not harder, which is why having both a wife and a maid is stupid. I can keep my own place: having someone live with me should make it even easier because the work gets divided among two, while the workload itself goes up by less than double. If a woman makes your life harder, she shouldn’t be in a relationship. It’s why I think marriage is stupid even beyond the bad laws etc: if I have to keep gaming my wife, I’m putting in the same effort I would as a single man on the dating front so I might as well keep the girls in their early 20s, unlike an aging wife.
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Serious question (in the name of science): This (likely) false narrative aside, why are there guys who get off on their wives sleeping with other men (I.e. cuckold fetishists)? How does it make sense that they would get aroused by something like this?
[CH: how does it make sense that there are some men who get off on sheep? on corpses? on hosiery? there will always be with us exceptional freaks who prove the rules.]
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The same way men can look at another man having sex with a beautiful woman in porn, and get off to that.
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Voyeurism and cuckold fetish are rather different. Voyeurs (and pr0n users, which is pretty much the same thing) aren’t watching a woman who is supposedly pledged to them only for life getting railed.
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So fantasizing that I’m another man fucking a woman I desire is the same as being myself, but having my woman fucked? This is actually interesting to me though. Do cuckolds get off on what exactly? My hypothesis is that they’ve been so removed from the fantasies and arms of women that they can only imagine themselves as passive participants in the love making act and that their inferiority complex allows them to enjoy sex only by the proxy of another man’s dick. But they make me sick to my stomach, so I can’t ask them. 😀
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There’s a man in the picture?
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Competing sperm theory. Let the healthiest man’s sperm wins. Or rather, it’s a coping mechanism for weeding out losers because if he is a pathetic loser, he is aroused by it because biology is telling him on subconscious level that it’s ok for his wife to get prego by another guy because the offspring they produce will be more viable. Species for the win.
[CH: nah. genetic directives don’t work at the group level, at least not in such a way as to so completely obliterate the individual organism’s reproductive fitness. my guess is that cuckold fetishists are a) phony poseurs pretending to like something they don’t as a means of rationalizing their shitty lives or to impress fat feminists or b) headcases. whatever they are, they’re a tiny minority. for now.]
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how does it make sense that there are some men who get off on sheep? on corpses? on hosiery?
On other men? On being women?
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They know subconsciously they’re genetically unfit so they’re self-culling their seed from the gene pool.
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There are a few different aspects to it. One is that the (beta) male responds to the suspicion that his pair bond partner has had sex with another man by having the urge to push his own sperm in to displace the other male’s. There is a huge volume of evidence that we developed in a sperm-competitive environment.
Another is that the promiscuous female arouses a different part of the male brain, the part not oriented toward pair bonding. Personally, I find sluts intensely arousing. Won’t commit resources to them, but they trigger the animalistic side of my brain.
Some men find arousal in the submission of being in an inferior sexual position. Some cuckolds are actively degraded, like licking the semen out of the woman’s vagina.
So it’s partly explainable, partly inexplicable (or difficult to explicate) as CH says.
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True or not, what is glaringly absent from this story is any mention of his wife’s desire for him. He talks at length about how he rebuilds his own broken self-esteem from nothing at all but never mentions his wife’s enthusiasm in fucking him.
“That was two years ago, and today we’ve never been happier, more in tune, closer, tighter, stronger. How does it work? We take turns going out…”
You never hear him mention how his wife yearns for him, desires sex from him, or wants him because of his open-mindedness.
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Well, it’s either written by a woman, or written by a cuck fetishist.
My money is on the former, since a cuck fetishist would have written in detail about this “Paulo” guy.
Either way it’s disgusting when near-erotica prints in a respectable magazine, and fetish erotica at that.
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Another alternative is that a homo wrote this about his partner… and just transposed it onto a hetero scenario.
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lol, it’s ironic because I find women far easier to understand and relate to than cuck fetishists. I can’t understand people that fucked up.
And wordpress ate my other comment. 😦
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IME Red wine can work fine.
But to be consistent with the rest of the article–may as well have said Ben and Jerry’s and white wine. Because a woman obviously wrote this as some sort of fantasy.
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Other clues it’s written by a woman:
1. In the title the author refers to himself as “one man” instead of “me”.
2. Twice says “hot story”. Men don’t find stories hot.
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#2, good catch. men find women hot. women find stories that trigger their emotions hot. The crone who wrote this was probably going all DJ Scratch on her clit to a telenovela while she wrote this.
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I still say it could have been written by a half-a-fag who merely transposed his own existence with his (ahem) partner onto a hetero scenario.
You know, like when someone posts at the chateau and refers to himself as “this alpha”. lzozlzozlozlozlzolzolozlozlozlolzolozlozl
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It used to be a best practice among married players to say you have an open marriage, in order to reduce possibility of blackmail later on. Likewise, telling the wife who you’re going out with (leaving out the banging part) allows you to say to the mistress “she knows” with some congruency.
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Yeah, but when the man / husband starts first, the woman doesn’t go and cheat, even if the husband gives her permission. Once you get a woman to agree to an “open” marriage, it’s usually a one way thing. (Or in my experience, an “open” LTR.)
The issue here is that it’s women driving the opening of these marriages. They’re just adulteresses, but they’re doing it in plain sight. Prior generations had the common decency to at least pretend to hide it.
[CH: yes, the primary drivers of “open marriages” will be the top 10% alpha men and women who benefit from indulging their alpha fux itch. who are these women? they will be the women with low to middling SMV married to losers or beta schlubs who pose no threat of abandonment or of satisfying their own end of the open marriage deal.]
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“It’s hot because she’s excited, and I’m glad because I’m about to put 180 grains of “social justice” through her cheating cerebellum, and Pablo’s soon afterward.”
There, I fixed it.
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What “Michael Sonmore” would be thinking to himself if he actually existed ^.
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“180 grains of ‘social justice'”
Hahaha Consider it stolen.
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On point and brilliantly written article. I think CH clearly took the writer to task for their disgustingly fringe sexuality, and obvious feminist trolling.
What concerns me, and what I’d like CH to write about next is why this fetish piece was even written.
I suspect now that gay marriage has been given the mainstream stamp of approval by every left leaning outlet there is, (much to the horror of every red blooded American) the progressive fringe is now trying to normalize other deviant sexual practices.
Funny that cuckoldry and not polygamy is the next behavior to be pushed onto a country that doesn’t want either.
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The extension of the domain of cock carrousel riding
to paraphrase Houellebecq first novel title
From now on every “feminist” man has to allow his wife to break the evil patriarchy bondage and continue to ride cock carrousel while enjoying the holy matrimony of marriage
There is no greater joy for a husband than to await his wife return from cock riding in the marital bad, his thoughts hunted by irredeemable guilt of being born as a male and his eyes moisty
He is moved to the tears poor thing, asking himself “Do I deserve such a bliss?
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Yeah, the red wine is a dead, DEAD giveaway.
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I plugged each of the paragraphs presented here into the Gender Guesser:
http://www.hackerfactor.com/GenderGuesser.html#Analyze
It guessed female writer for each, assuming the piece is an example of “formal” writing.
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On the other hand, that site says I’m female too. Funny that they got that so royally wrong, but they said I’m probably European(although they said there’s only a weak relationship for that).
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Another giveaway was that this “husband” was not worried about the wife having sex with other men but was afraid that she would fall in love with them. That is a very female way of thinking.
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Nice point.
This article could serve as a primer in a class of Tells 101.
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I called bullshit at “Paulo”.
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CH, featuring that pic is soooo catty!
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I read that ridiculous article, all the while knowing something was up. Always trust your gut.
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Not since “Dear Woman”…
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I’m Paulo
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Feminist equality by definition is equality of outcome.
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Well except that every feminist secretly wants the Top Dawg Alpha for herself, so that she can look down her nose at all her sistahs who are beneath her on the scrotial ladder.
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I got about a quarter of the way through he article and couldn’t even bring myself to waste another second of my thought on such insanity; I didn’t suspect it was fake but that makes sense.
My tolerance for idiotic SJW trash has disappeared since I took the red pill.
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It sounds like dildos , cats and loneliness
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What makes anyone think this false narrative was aimed at men? This was a professional hit piece aimed squarely at twats.
A bazillion women with marshmallow beta bucks husbands read the story and agreed, “If he truly loved me why would he be against my being happy.”
Promiscuous = happy
Monogamy = oppressive control
The dialectic seed is planted, it’s a bankable win.
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In a few days, if the furor continues across Cyberia, the true writer of this dreck will be outed.
And I know… I mean just know… that one of my remarks will be:
“Every… fucking… time.”
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That would require me to add an Eskimo or two to my earlier quip “women all the way up [the editorial chain].”
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Oy vey, do the goyim have an EskimoGuesser?
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At the risk of looking beta/blue pill enclosed is a link to an article which actually has some good info. Would recommend people read this if you want to calibrate your game.
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http://theartofcharm.com/flirting-and-attraction/signs-girl-likes/
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Putin, you want signs of sexual attraction. Period. No signs of beta-seduction to further her Plan B. See my post.
https://theasdgamer.wordpress.com/2014/03/27/is-she-into-you-indicators-of-interest/
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“fake indications of interest (ioi’s)”
LMAO! Should of known. Good stuff Gamer.
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[Bows to Putin.]
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Putin, over at Rollo’s I was discussing a broad I know who showed what some people thought was classic beta-seeking behavior. Demure coyness. The big problem with that theory is that this broad showed two primate reflexive signals–the “Potential Mate” signal and the “Rejected Lover” signal. This broad attempted to use coyness a couple of weeks after showing the “Rejected Lover” signal. Coyness isn’t necessarily beta-seeking. It may very well be initiated by a woman’s ASD and be independent of alpha- or beta-seeking behavior. If a man has overcome ASD, then a woman will show overt attraction: high energy, giggling, following, etc. What the guys at Rollo’s were calling alpha-seeking behavior.
It’s important to be able to recognize those primate signals. One of my posts discusses the “Rejected Lover” signal. I don’t think that it’s in the IOI post.
I called it the “Tormented Love” signal in the post:
https://theasdgamer.wordpress.com/2015/07/06/the-tormented-love-body-language-signal/
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https://fbcdn-profile-a.akamaihd.net/hprofile-ak-xaf1/v/t1.0-1/p160x160/1922220_1397758323820090_242407223_n.jpg?oh=61d8179f66a025255acf59216c925110&oe=5617A6B6&__gda__=1447818531_9a373e7da885b362a6a0bc9ebbd8dbbb
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The antenna went up on ” oceans of red wine”
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I like the part where Coach Reardon has to spank all the cheerleaders.
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The singing and dancing cats were somewhat amusing.
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So obviously written by a woman that it wasn’t even worth commenting upon. The fact that anyone took it as other than feminist fantasy speaks volumes about the stupidity of some men.
One of my girls showed it to me laughing saying that it was written by “an old fat woman wishing this was her life.” Had to agree she pegged it…
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Having altogether too much fun running stuff through the gender guesser. Thanks for the link.
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This article begs for a gender switch, doesn’t it?
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Yes!
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Already done: http://www.avoiceformen.com/mens-rights/letting-my-husband-sleep-with-other-women-makes-me-a-better-mens-rights-activist/
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Off topic but far too good not to share…
http://illimitablemen.com/2015/07/17/fifty-shades-of-red/
http://illimitablemen.com/2015/07/23/fifty-shades-redder/
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Heartiste or GBFM:
Dostoevsky wrote in “Crime and Punishment” about a cuckold fetishist, Semyonovitch. He was a most loathesome character and a “progressive.” Dostoevsky takes the shiv to him as only a Russian can. Check it out, Part 5, Chapter 1.
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Since not wanting your wife to be a harlot is stiffling her sexual independence, my potential wife minding me blowing my money on cocaine and hookers would be her trying to stifle my financial independence and feminism taught me stifling one’s spouse financial independence is bad.
Seriously, if a woman ever came to me with this stupid shit, I’d call a friend to come over with some stuff, call two escorts and have some fun. Then tell her all about how it’s about male bonding over sharing hoes and how her opposing it means she’s trying to infringe my sexual and financial independence, while also trying to control my relationships to my friends, all deemed by feminists as abusive. Not to mention that hoes and drugs can make a man happy, so she wants me to be miserable by being against it. That’s domestic violence, I tell you!
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ROFL I ENJOYED THIS OEN FOR REAL BRUH
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SWPL incels drink red wine. They console their cuckoldery in believing in their superior tastes makemup for tasting her last cuckold’s jizz as he writes love letters with his numb tongue.
Plus, he probably doesn’t have to drown his pride often, considering whom he is married to.
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Here’s another ‘tell’: :”When my wife told me she wanted to open our marriage and take other lovers, she wasn’t rejecting me, she was embracing herself. When I understood that, I finally became a feminist. ”
Yah…you go girl…er…I mean Michael…
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What is it with a smile where youcan see the gums. Is it some genetic defect/tell?
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“When someone smiles at me, all I see is a chimpanzee begging for its life.”
Fluffy kitties? Check. Dopey buy the world a Coke philosophy? You know it. Irritable bowel disorder? She’ll never tell.
Please don’t hurt her.
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Funny how it’s equality of opportunity on the sexual market, but equality of outcome on all the other ones (work, sport, science, power,….). When double standard is so transparent, it’s counter productive…
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As Aldous Huxley put it, “political and economic freedom diminishes, sexual freedom tends compensatingly to increase.”
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Good call. Even Mike Stivic was a “chauvinist.” In other words, a male.
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it’s true cuz it’s funny
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I admit that I fell for the deception. My only excuse was that the feelings of revulsion and hatred for the beta bitch portrayed, along with the overwhelming urge to beat ‘him’ bloody, overcame my rational, questioning mind.
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A translation.
“As I write this, my children are asleep in their room, Loretta Lynn is on the stereo, and my husband is at the home of a woman named Paula. It’s his second visit this week; his fourth this month so far. If it goes like the others, he’ll come home in the middle of the night, crawl into bed beside me, and want to have sex with me after visiting his mistress. I won’t explode with anger or seethe with resentment. I’ll tell him I’m horny and I’m glad he he’s home. It’s horny because I’m excited, and I’m excited because I’m his wife.
“When I quit working to stay at home with the kids, I began to understand marriage on a whole new level. I am an economically dependent housewife coping with the withering drudgery of child-rearing. Now that I understand the reality of that situation, I don’t blame men for demanding more for themselves than the life of the housewife.
“He didn’t present open marriage as an issue of entitlement to me, but after much soul-searching about why the idea of my husband having sex with other women bothered me I came to a few conclusions: my jealousy meant I wanted to control his sexual expression, and, not to get all women’s-studies major about it, so-called patriarchal oppression essentially boils down to a woman’s fear that a man with sexual freedom is a man she can’t control. We aren’t afraid of their intellect or their spirit or their strength. We are afraid that when it comes time for commitment, they won’t choose us. This deep-seated fear has led us as immature women to place judgments on the entire spectrum of male sexual expression: if a man likes sex, he’s a misogynist and a rapist; if he only likes sex with his wife or girlfriend, he’s boring and lame; if he doesn’t like sex at all, he’s gay and unavailable. Every option is a trap.
“The point is that it should be men who choose, not women, especially the women to which they’re married. For my husband, the choice between honoring our vows and fulfilling his desires was a false choice, another trap. He knew how deep our love was, and I knew that his desire for a harem of women as we all traveled through life together would not diminish or disrupt the love that made him choose to marry me. It took me about six months, many long, intense conversations, and an ocean of red wine, before I knew it, too.
“It doesn’t work both ways and, no, I don’t enjoy sexual carte blanche. I can’t sleep with several men and still remain confident that he’ll love me. What’s important is outcome, not equality.”
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I think I read the “at home alone while my husband is out” story in “An Ethical Slut.”
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“Happily for me, she was willing to talk about it, willing to ask if I’d be open to exploring other options. We opened a bottle of wine and started talking, and talking, and talking.”
Sounds miserable….
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And also something out of a trashy romance novel….
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If it hasn’t already happened, who or whatever are behind this are going to claim it as a victory because it:
“Provoked debate
Challenged patriarchal assumptions
Exposed inherent gender bias
Advanced the rights of women
Highlighted the plight of women who are victims of societal pressure to blah blah blah……..
Insert any one of a number of groupthink sanctioned justification phrases, designed to give meaning to hollow feminist boilerplate.
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Exactly… the sheister responsible for this dreck will be outed, perhaps self-outed, and declare victory in the finest neener-neener, nyah-nyah fashion of the current In Crowd.
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We should publish an article claiming it was written by an overweight middle aged feminist writer who loves hearing about the young hot babes her husband bangs. If we wait a while we could probably include how much she gets turned on when he slaps her around.
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“Michael Sonmore “, huh? The most common first name of recent decades plus a very obscure surname that just happens to consist of “son” and “more”? She’s trying too hard.
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“if she only likes sex with her husband or boyfriend, she’s boring and lame”
since when?
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> no man would worry more about his wife “falling in love” with another man than about his wife fucking another man. This is pure, distilled bitterbitch psychological projection.
absolutely true. A man would get hate flashbacks of another dick penetrating his property, not this fuzzy emotional stuff.
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Bet he lets his wife’s Bull pork him in the ass so she can watch.
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