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The Joy Of Game

August 10, 2015 by CH

I don’t think it gets told often enough here at Le Chateau, but Game, when executed with flair and precision, can be quite a joy to experience, both for the giver of Game and the receiver of Game. Reader Lichtof supplies an anecdote which demonstrates this truism about the crimson arts.

Girl at work – she’s 25..I’m 37..she had a history of not getting her timesheet in on time. This week she did

9.27 Me : Timesheet- boooooooo! Hiss!!
9.29 Her: Are you unhappy that its already done?
9.37 Me: Yes – now I can’t bug you
9.39 Her: LOL – I’ll try to slack off next time
9.42 Me: I can only handle predictability
9.43 Her: Gotta keep you on your toes!
9.45 Me: And there’s no beer left (in staff kitchen)
9.45 Her: I drank it all. Dark times here at (firm’s name)
9.55 Me: Not into dark beer but (bar name) has a grolsch – we will go sometime – wait haven’t I been here before?

Within minutes she was by my desk and 2 hours later asked me to lunch.

I bet you smiled reading this. A skilled seduction has an almost harmonic lilt to the ear. Flirtation is the poetic transmogrification of primitive desires. Notice, too, how a man with tight game energizes a woman, and summons the best of her; namely, her playfulness. A woman who is fortunate to be the lust object of a man with a nimble tongue and mischievous squint is a woman eager to relinquish her resting bitch face to the full flowering of her feminine soul.

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  1. on August 10, 2015 at 6:30 am The Joy Of Game | Neoreactive

    […] By CH […]

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  2. on August 10, 2015 at 6:34 am 7darktriad3

    I have had to learn the hard way that running game on girls at work can literally never end well. You either end up with a girl infatuated with you, or the girl doesn’t find you physically attractive and so utterly detests you due to you being the kind of man the good looking guy’s COULD be. She grows to resent that which reminds her of what she could have.

    Don’t shit where you eat

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    • on August 10, 2015 at 6:45 am PA

      “Don’t shit where you eat” is right, though if I were single I’d take (and I have in the past) take my chances on banging coworkers.

      But you have to use game at work or you won’t survive, especially if you have a female supervisor. I’ve had both younger and much older female managers, and by the congruent and callibrated game I picked up here, which has become second nature to me, Ive gotten along with them very well.

      A betaish friend, when we talked about this, said “aren’t you gonna get in trouble for gaming girls though?” I explained that I use zero sexual innuendo in those settings.

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    • on August 10, 2015 at 6:57 am themanofmystery2

      I think you have to qualify this statement that it entirely depends how invested in your job you are. If you work at taco bell, game the fuck out of dem fat greasy pimpled bitchez. If you get fired, there’s always TJ Maxx

      Nahhhhhh playaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa….fireallz

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    • on August 10, 2015 at 7:12 am Obviously Cap'n

      > “we WILL go sometime” ——— Newbies, note the exact phraseology. Not the lesser Beta “WOULD YOU LIKE TO go sometime?” Nor even the greater Beta/lesser Alpha “we SHOULD go sometime”. Two uber-important principles are being illustrated here: 1) Betas ask questions, Alphas issue commands. 2) Alphas always assume the sale.

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    • on August 10, 2015 at 8:13 am Anonymous

      I’ll agree with this, very simple, leave coworker gash the fuck alone if you value your career and/or reputation in your field of expertise.

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    • on August 10, 2015 at 8:53 am pickled tink

      “Don’t shit where you eat”

      when you’re 16 working at DQ for the summer…. take giant steaming dumps all over your hot young coworkers. run game during smoke breaks and hit it all summer.

      when you’re 25 in the concrete jungle…. it’s not so much you as it is them. they are career kunts now. no longer sweet 16s. messing with them is just lazy. you can find plenty just like them at the bars and then have the added pleasure of not having to see them monday morning or be called into HR because they feel bad about what happened and want to see you punished.

      the sad fact is game gets trickier as you get older because women get more bitchy as they get older.

      [CH: game gets both trickier and easier. older women (25+) are easier lays, but they are also bitter about this fact of female life.]

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      • on August 10, 2015 at 10:54 am Ripp

        “the sad fact is game gets trickier as you get older because women get more bitchy as they get older.”

        Disagree. for men, in the aggregate averages, game is easier at 35, than 25. Perhaps at 45 it is harder. However game success is highly correlated with field time and willingness to apply new learned tactics.

        when running game within social circles or work environments where you will see the subject again and have to endure periphery social dynamics, it does become more complicated with more fallout risks than a cold approach or internet contact.

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    • on August 10, 2015 at 9:22 am Big Jim

      Depends what your goal is. Game is multipurpose. Given the reality that females are present or even predominant in many workplaces, gaming them to get ahead (rather than to bang) can be successful career strategy. You can use game to manipulate them for purely material ends, without running the risks that come from dipping your pen(is) in company pink.

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      • on August 10, 2015 at 9:41 am Laguna Beach Fogey

        ^ That’s a key point: use Game to manipulate.

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      • on August 11, 2015 at 1:22 pm Lash

        “dipping your pen(is) in company [p]ink”

        Big Jim, giving you credit for that. Clever.

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    • on August 10, 2015 at 9:57 am da GBFM lzzzzzzzlzlz (TM)

      da same thing happened to da gbfm!!!! alomstsz!!

      9.27 Me : Timesheet- boooooooo! Hiss!!
      9.29 Her: Are you unhappy that its already done?
      9.37 Me: lotsa cockasz
      9.39 Her: LOL – I’ll try to slack off next time
      9.42 Me: bring da moviezz
      9.43 Her: Gotta keep me on my knees!
      9.45 Me: And there’s no beer left at my home. bring sum.
      9.45 Her: you can drink it all, if i get your milkshake
      9.55 Me:

      lzozoololzoozozozoz

      don’t shit where you eat, unless human resources keeps putting fine roast beef sadnwhiches in the bathroom instead of the kitchen, where they belong, barefoot and pregnant lzozoozozo.

      [CH: lol instant classic.]

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    • on August 10, 2015 at 10:17 am da GBFM lzzzzzzzlzlz (TM)

      lzoozolzlzol
      roosh assaulted in canadaa!!!

      lzolzozozozoomg lzozozoz

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      • on August 10, 2015 at 10:18 am da GBFM lzzzzzzzlzlz (TM)

        da gbfm has a funny joke
        there was once two MRA peanuts walking down the street
        one of them
        was a salted

        lzlzozoozozozozozooozzooz

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      • on August 10, 2015 at 10:51 am newlyaloof

        Too bad Roosh is soft. Some notes:
        1. Go out with more alpha dudes who can throw up their hands.
        2. Employ the pimp slap to any bitch throwing beer in your face (that or at least throw your beer back into her face).
        3. Stomp those white knights.

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      • on August 10, 2015 at 10:53 am peckerwood

        Female Saudi Arabia approaches closer and closer.

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      • on August 10, 2015 at 10:55 am newlyaloof

        P.S. Roosh, this is what you do:

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      • on August 10, 2015 at 10:56 am da GBFM lzzzzzzzlzlz (TM)

        roosh be like filing policez chargesz and all lzozozzozoozozo

        http://www.returnofkings.com/68992/privileged-rich-girl-feminist-jessica-lelievre-assaults-roosh-v-on-street-and-brags-about-it

        rooosh winszz!!!!

        the dumbest thing to have done would have bene to physiclly fight back

        rooosh be smartz

        lzozozozoz

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      • on August 10, 2015 at 11:18 am newlyaloof

        PPS GBFM, Yeah, I know you are right, and Roosh is handling it correctly, but afterward, years later, what I wrote needs to happen to that girl and her friends.

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      • on August 10, 2015 at 11:25 am Sentient

        @Newly

        Guy had all charges dropped as well…

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      • on August 10, 2015 at 11:36 am Sentient

        In his press conference 8 Ball Jacket Guy broke down in tears recounting the incident to reporters…

        Because he LOVES his jacket and can’t wear it again.

        Instant CH Alpha Hall Of Game candidate.

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      • on August 10, 2015 at 11:50 am newlyaloof

        @Sentient, haha. Yeah, I saw that. He got off Scott-free and taught her a lesson. Best of both worlds right there.

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      • on August 10, 2015 at 12:11 pm Sean Fielding

        Roosh seems to be responding the best way he can, given the situation: drawing attention to the premeditated nature of the act, the privileged background of the actress, her craven behavior since, having others write the ROK articles and most of all, suing her.

        But it all just goes to show what a no-win situation the official neo-matriarchy is – no matter what he does, it will come off as butthurt. Evolution has prepared us to be primates who simply do not let females behave this way and blithely carry on. The instant default is to male aggression – her males against him and his males.

        In 99.9% of the human societies there have ever been, bitches like this get a good smacking from their own men when the turmoil is over and they return home. Like that’s going to happen.

        Sometimes civilization is a quagmire.

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  3. on August 10, 2015 at 6:36 am The Joy Of Game | Manosphere.com

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  4. on August 10, 2015 at 6:38 am huehue

    i don’t get the last message

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  5. on August 10, 2015 at 6:38 am theasdgamer

    I have a Game anecdote.

    I was dancing with a woman Friday night who complained of being dizzy because she said that I turned her too much. (5h1t test #1: telling me how to lead) As we continued dancing, I stopped turning her and politely explained that all she needed to say was that she was feeling dizzy. She didn’t need to tell me how to lead. The woman replied that that was what she thought she was doing. (5h1t test #2: arguing with me about my correction) I didn’t reply to that since ignoring it was passing it. I still didn’t turn her. Finally, she said that it was Ok to turn her some. (Submission) I smirked as I said that it seems like I couldn’t please her–either I turned her too much or not enough. She giggled. (Tingles)

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    • on August 10, 2015 at 9:52 am Rick

      Hey Gamer, if a guy wants to take some beginner dancing lessons, what is the best dance style he should start with to produce maximum vag tingle emissions with the ladies? Any other general advice?

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      • on August 10, 2015 at 10:29 am da GBFM lzzzzzzzlzlz (TM)

        Da GBFM highy recommendsz that most epic form of dance lessonsz–hentai porn dance.

        guaranteed to produce a maximum vag tingeles emissionznznzzz

        lzozozoozoz

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      • on August 10, 2015 at 11:09 am elmer

        All partner forms : swing, salsa, tango. Ballroom especially makes em wet.

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      • on August 10, 2015 at 11:13 am Greg Eliot

        Definitely Latin-style ballroom… and then take her to an upscale Hispanic club. Not a dry seat in the house.

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      • on August 10, 2015 at 11:14 am theasdgamer

        All that’s in my book currently in 1st draft. If a beginning dancer needs confidence with women, he should start with a ballroom dance like waltz or foxtrot because he will easily find women who will say ‘yes’ when he asks them to dance. They won’t be hot, generally, but he will get used to asking women to dance who will say ‘yes’. Start by building confidence.

        I started with several different ballroom dances per week. It will be confusing at first, but you will make progress faster.

        Lots of hot women like country 2 step, west coast swing, and salsa. Once you get good enough to teach women to dance, your status takes a marked increase and gina tingles increase as well in hotties.

        One broad said that I should make money teaching women to dance. Sometimes women buy me drinks for dancing with them.

        Women graze rake their b00bz on me when we dance sometimes. Usually the less experienced dancers or at the belt-buckle-polishing dances. Experienced dancers have been staring at me smiling, which is very flirty and unusual for an experienced dancer. With husbands or boyfriends at the venue. Lots of inexperienced dancers do this when you’re teaching them as well.

        Best wishes.

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      • on August 10, 2015 at 11:29 am elmer

        One memorable job I had was fortuitously located near the local university, offering me the opportunity to slip out and take multiple dance classes back-back during lunch time hours. I would bail from work around 11 and return a few hours later after having been immersed in dozens of young women. The boss become suspicious.

        Elmer! How much time do you need for lunch?

        “Oh about one and a half, two hours”

        “What for??!!”

        “Go jogging, eat lunch, take a rest”

        This was a guy who expected me to work into the evenings but would scream at me for coming in at 8:05 for being late to work. Long after I got fired he used my name as a benchmark for chastising the other employees for poor attendance “You’re as bad as Elmer!” he would yell at them.

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      • on August 10, 2015 at 11:39 am elmer

        What theasdgamer (who apparently is competing against me in the ebook market) said is true.

        I would routinely trace the outlines of their brassieres, then bring them in for the “basket” move so I could squeeze their tits together and proffer them for my loving gaze. Also developed my patented “forward-fake” to plant their tits right on my chest.

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      • on August 10, 2015 at 11:53 am theasdgamer

        Actually, I provide validation service for dancers. If they buy me a drink, I promise to stare at their cleavage and ooh and ahh over it.

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      • on August 10, 2015 at 12:11 pm elmer

        This also happened to me at a major division of Encorpera. They had a sign out board for when you were out of the office so I wrote the letters for the local university and disappear for three hours every day to go dancing. Word got back to the managers that I was frolicking with young ladies instead of taking programming classes. I never said I was taking professional development courses and it was true that I was going to the university. However a self-important manager, one of only 12 in my department and a fourth degree Six Sigma black belt, confronted me saying “That’s unethical!”. I suppressed the urge to laugh in his face, always following the rule to enable nobodies feel important. Of course guys who were jogging or playing golf during lunch were not scrutinized but I had committed the sin of having a good time and enjoying life instead of my assigned role as Middle-Aged Man.

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      • on August 11, 2015 at 1:30 am walawala

        @Rick go with whatever is popular in the city you live in: salsa is great because it always attracts a lot of girls, there are clubs everywhere, it’s physical. The other is western dancing which also attracts young girls who like to go out and dance. This is a great way to interact in a fun, safe physical environment.

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  6. on August 10, 2015 at 6:57 am 7darktriad3

    What do you think of this.? Very basic game, please review.
    Game tip: First dates. If your struggling to get some kino going, pick something up during her conversation that can sound dubious. Make the ‘I’m not quite sure I believe you’ face, whilst holding strong eyes. She should notice this change in facial language. ‘What?’ she’ll say.
    ‘Show me your hand’ with a smirk (present your own palm as an example), ‘I need to see if your lying to me’.
    Now act as if your studying her hand. Run through those facial expressions which peak her interest the most. Mainly, mock interest, mock suprisment, mock indignation, mock disappointment. During this very lightly and very gently run your index finger over her palm.
    At this point she should be at the edge of her seat, dying for you to explain.
    ‘I can’t quite believe it’.
    ‘What?!’ She’ll say?
    ‘It’s just that, well, you were telling the truth, but…’
    ‘What? what?!’
    …’It says you were….born a boy?!’
    *shit eating grin* 😀
    Followed by a punch to the arm, hopefully.

    Tingles generated

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    • on August 10, 2015 at 1:15 pm CJ

      ’It says you were….born a boy?”

      BRILLIANT!

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  7. on August 10, 2015 at 7:16 am tombreck2

    Three tenets of beta male game:

    Hitting on a girl at work (great way to get fired)

    [CH: nope. not a tenet of beta male game. work romance may be unwise, but it’s not necessarily beta. plenty of alphas get work poon.]

    + Flirting with a girl over work instant messenger (She could have had her co-workers there laughing at you)

    [nope. wrong. nothing inherently beta about flirting over chat. you’s starting to sound like a troll.]

    + Acting like something has been accomplished before PIV (This example sounds like a work-friend date that every girl does)

    [i don’t get that vibe at all. nice try, tho.]

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    • on August 10, 2015 at 11:23 am da GBFM lzzzzzzzlzlz (TM)

      da eskimos
      intorduced both pornography porn shiksa porn
      and feminist corporate codes of conduct
      so it is dat an eskimo can butthext skiksa women all day long and film it and sell it
      while if a nice guy compliments a skiksa womens hair at the workplace
      the eskioms can seize his property and earnings and fire him
      such is the beauty of jonah golbergz and ben shapiroszlzozozol cultural reformationsz

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      • on August 10, 2015 at 11:51 am theasdgamer

        “pornography” pronounced “puh-naw-gruh-fee” in the Southern dialect.

        Let’s see if GBFM can lolzlol in the Southern dialect.

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      • on August 10, 2015 at 8:19 pm Tusket

        Majority of women in porn is eskimo-esses. They dye their hair blonde and give themselves fake white names.

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  8. on August 10, 2015 at 7:33 am Elkman

    The penis is in the vagina, the penis is in, the penis is in. Sir we have set out to accomplish something here, and we can say it has been a success. The penis is in, the penis is in. Don’t let it out, keep it there where it belongs – in that warm cozy place, that hellhole of fire, that crocodile’s mouth, that’s where it goes. Don’t stick it up the ass – that is gayness! – stick it in the vagina and the mouth works too.

    The penis is in the penis is out
    The penis being no friend to me doubt
    What not warily down there your way is wrong
    A song about the penis, a long song of the schlong

    It’s best if your penis is white and clean
    Intact with precipice and gleaning sheen
    But no matter either how grows it still now
    Keep that thing healthy don’t give up pow!

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    • on August 10, 2015 at 7:39 am PA

      Morrissey just called me. He wants to purchase the rights to your comment.

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  9. on August 10, 2015 at 7:49 am Kate Minter

    “relinquish her resting bitch face to the full flowering of her feminine soul”
    Poetry 🙂

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    • on August 10, 2015 at 11:55 am theasdgamer

      Didn’t Shakespeare say it first?

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      • on August 10, 2015 at 12:57 pm Greg Eliot

        More like Wilde.

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    • on August 10, 2015 at 12:41 pm Sentient

      “relinquish her resting bitch face to the full flowering of her feminine soul”

      This happened to me yesterday. went to get a coffee and a real solid blond blue eyed 8 was ahead of me in line. Late 20’s bare shoulder sun dress. Amazing looking. Also see she has on nice wedding rings…

      She gets her drink and sets up on the counter, open seat on each side of her. she spreads out coffee, bag, cell phone and opens the paper and is reading it. Full beta blocker mode. Definite ice queen bitch face on. I’m like, shit, how can I not try and open her at least.

      So finally get my stuff and take the seat next to her. Intentionally ignore her and spread myself out, arms on the counter, dive into breakfast staring out the window. The other seat next to her gets taken now. she keeps looking in my direction, but isn’t eye coding me, I suss out she is looking past me to the door every 3 minutes or so.

      So I use that to open her, “You waiting on someone?”. Yes she says, “my sister in law ” which I interpret as a slight IOI and also a test. “she may be joining”.

      “Oh” I say “I took the seat” meaning the only one open. She goes “It’s ok I’m not sure if she will get here” still very controlled, frosty even, but clearly implying I would give her the seat if she came. So I hit her with “Well I didn’t say I would give it to you now” and turn toward her with a neutral expression and direct gaze, and at this I see her kind of react, sit up straight and start formulating thoughts as I roll off… The I come back with my elbow on the table, “I suppose we could arm wrestle for it though”… and Boom, she slumps forward eyes closed, smiles and laughs… The full flowering of her feminine beauty indeed.

      Had a nice 5 minute chat, but couldn’t hook, she gets up and gathers her things and sashays out the back door, giving me a goodbye and that smile that was half way between “thanks for the affirmation of my beauty” and “sorry you didn’t have more”… You know the one…

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      • on August 11, 2015 at 6:13 am Culum Struan

        Sentient – interesting stuff. I think there’s a lot to be learnt from these interactions that don’t necessarily “lead” anywhere

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      • on August 11, 2015 at 6:53 am Sentient

        It was a good reminder that girls really are all about fun, it’s always there under the veneer. We ignore this aspect too much with our logical practical minds or denigrate it. Better to accept it for what it is and enjoy. Lighten up Francis!

        Ps – so if you started excercising you probably dropped a few pounds and are over the initial soreness by now.

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      • on August 11, 2015 at 7:57 am Culum Struan

        Sentient: first gym session was on Sat, so still early days. Also switched to eating heatlhy over the weekend.

        I feel clearer headed and no longer feel bloated, but my god I’m just so hungry. Especially before dinner and before bed.

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      • on August 11, 2015 at 7:59 am Culum Struan

        PS – It’s a bit hard to reconcile that “all about fun” thing with the cold calculation and strategies for separating men and their money on the stripperweb site (about which I posted some other comments on this thread). Like I don’t blame them for it – no different from what we do, but it’s just hard to reconcile that kind of cold strategic thinking with “all about fun” and “in the moment”

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      • on August 11, 2015 at 8:19 am Sentient

        Well those are strippers and in situ it’s a business… Get them away from business and then they can become real XX normal girls and behave as such.

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  10. on August 10, 2015 at 8:04 am tspark156

    Back in my twenties I was fucking my boss, she was a blonde nineteen year old. Some of the best times I have ever had at work.

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    • on August 10, 2015 at 10:46 am Stoner

      Here here… Back in said ’90s I was working on the campaign of a guy who was running for political office. He had 4 blonde daughters. Campaign manager was banging one of them, finance director another, and me the third. Her name was “Candi”. What a fun campaign. Best time I’ve ever had working. The candidate got eviscerated in the election.

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    • on August 10, 2015 at 10:53 am Heywood Jablome

      What fool puts a 19 year old girl in charge of employees? Was it a fast good restaurant?

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      • on August 10, 2015 at 10:58 am Greg Eliot

        It weren’t AT&T.

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      • on August 10, 2015 at 11:07 am elmer

        Married beta manager entertaining thoughts of nubile trysts.

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      • on August 10, 2015 at 1:07 pm tspark156

        Who the fuck cares

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  11. on August 10, 2015 at 8:13 am Matthew Thomas

    What kind of cunt makes another person fill in a timesheet

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  12. on August 10, 2015 at 8:18 am Skinner

    Don’t bang your co-workers unless a) you’re the boss and b) you have a slush fund set aside for the inevitable employment legals down the line.
    There are 3.6 billion women on the planet, Max, you work with a few hundred of em. Go game somewhere else, young man.

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    • on August 10, 2015 at 10:12 am elmer

      Avoid workplace women like the plague. Seek your pleasure outside your industry where there is no employment cost to women’s scorn and rejection.

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  13. on August 10, 2015 at 8:33 am walawala

    One of the biggest hurdles to my own game is patience which i’m getting better at. The way I’ve gained patience is through abundance–I now have 3 on the go. I have now added a possible 4 to my rotation. A 28 year old HB 7, tall, slim, long hair, cute I met on OKC. We went out 4 times. First time we met up, she claimed she couldn’t speak English. But she could—very well. I just ploughed on with that saying we could just smile and stare…talking wasn’t important. Brought her to my place that night, made out.

    The other 3 times she came over, made out, hand job. Then I told her point blank that I wanted to fuck her. If she didn’t want to fuck, that was ok we couldn’t see each other.

    Here’s my text exchange:

    Her: Do you want me to be your lover

    Me: as long as you’re not crazy or jealous…could be interesting to start fucking…if you fuck the way you kiss

    I really didn’t care if I saw this girl so I just went apocalypse game.

    Her: Jealous for what?

    Me: I hate drama

    Her: Should I be jealous something?

    Me: Not if you want to start fucking

    You can see what she’s doing here…

    Her: It would be nice to sex with u but i’m serious, if u just want to try fucking different girls and not want a serious relationship. Then we won’t fuck

    Me: I’m not ready or have time for a gf right now. So. I keep it simple

    Her: ok is clear now

    Me: Cool I don’t want to talk about this again. If we meet up, it’s on this understanding

    Her: Ok

    I wait a day, then I hit her up: “When u free to meet up?”

    She says: “I’m not ready to shave my hairs. Monday?”

    I wouldn’t do this with every girl. But this is a girl I did go out with 4 times and did whack me off. I wasn’t going to meet her again to sit around and watch dvd’s.

    In other situations, girls have flaked or things haven’t panned out. In still other cases, I’ll game a girl at a party. She’ll be blowing me off. Then 3 weeks later I see her again…she’s giving me IOI’s.

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    • on August 10, 2015 at 12:35 pm Captain Obvious

      > “I just went apocalypse game” ——— I believe that you did what I’m speculating about on a previous thread, where I’m saying that elegant clever subtle lines simply DO NOT WORK on the chicks whose brains have been fried by the iPhag and Scrotial Media. I say this because your chick speaks well, but her texts indicate that she’s d@mned near sub-literate. If I’m right – if you need to say “f*ck” in 2015 – then I sense that things are deteriorating so rapidly that in 2016 you will need to tell her that you are going to “r@pe” her, and in 2017, you’ll need to tell her about how you are going to devour her flesh after you murder her. What happens in 2018? I don’t know. Maybe the Sweet Meteor of Death [SMOD] will have wiped us out by then.

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      • on August 10, 2015 at 12:38 pm Captain Obvious

        SUBTHREAD STARTS HERE: https://heartiste.wordpress.com/2015/08/08/trumps-only-weakness/#comment-694746

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      • on August 10, 2015 at 12:38 pm Captain Obvious

        https://heartiste.wordpress.com/2015/08/08/trumps-only-weakness/#comment-694746

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    • on August 10, 2015 at 1:41 pm anonymous

      complete clueless fail to get a handjob without real sex (that night) for 2 reasons: (1) if you can come from a handjob, you are a beta with not nearly enough experience; (2) when she was giving you a handjob, she was expecting you to stop her and begin real sex after about 2 to 3 minutes of it. Dur.

      You have received multiple hand jobs on different nights from her with no sex?

      Are you 16 years old?

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    • on August 11, 2015 at 8:26 am Sentient

      “In other situations, girls have flaked or things haven’t panned out. In still other cases, I’ll game a girl at a party. She’ll be blowing me off. Then 3 weeks later I see her again…she’s giving me IOI’s.”

      Wala – you’ve written a few times about attraction windows… opening and closing and opening again over time. You might try a few months of non social circle, non online, non day 2, straight up cold approach SNL game.

      It’s very clarifying for learning about spotting windows and acting in the moment and you can take away a lot of lessons to your online and social circle game.

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  14. on August 10, 2015 at 8:40 am Anonymous

    Donald Trump was planted by the Clintons to embarrass the republican party. In reality both parties are run by foreign banks and the elite of this world. If you think voting in that moron is going to change America and stop this scientific banking eugenics machine you are as delusional. Way worst times are coming we haven’t even begun to see how deep this rabbit hole really goes.

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    • on August 10, 2015 at 10:39 am Captain Obvious

      Anonymous, I hope you’re wrong. God in Heaven, I hope you’re wrong.

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    • on August 10, 2015 at 10:57 am Greg Eliot

      I doubt Trump is a plant… he’s more the type that does the planting.

      But on all those other things, you’re probably right.

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    • on August 10, 2015 at 12:41 pm Captain Obvious

      This morning, I was re-reading an outstanding Charles Hugh Smith column on the meta-phenomena at work here: http://charleshughsmith.blogspot.com/2014/05/how-middle-class-lifestyle-became.html

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      • on August 10, 2015 at 1:10 pm The Straw That Stirs the Drink

        Incredibly on target and the pithiest summary of the plight facing our country due to statism, monopoly and debt reliance I’ve seen. Should be required reading. Great find CO.

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      • on August 10, 2015 at 7:08 pm Stoner

        CHS is the most underrated social, economic commentator in America today. The dude is absolutely brilliant. Have been reading him since the last crash after 2008. He’s fantastic.

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  15. on August 10, 2015 at 8:42 am walawala

    YaReally, HABD et all I posted this elsewhere but it got eaten. Game question.

    I had posted about the cute, 20’s girl I met at party, kino’d, then added on FB, teased, number closed and set up a drinks hang out.

    She changed the time, then wanted to bring her friend. I said: “in that case, let’s meet up when you’re more comfortable” Her: “Sure, ok, next time” Vague chick speak.

    So i’m djing Friday—she comes out with a group of her friends–after she’d previously told me she wasn’t free. So ok, possible IOI, I pull her on the dance floor, tease her, kino, show her around. She’s shy. Her English is halting and not confident due to the fact she’s shy. But she has a funky tattoo and dresses hot and is sporty.

    So after that she leaves, I say bye I text: “Good connection” she replies with 🙂 🙂

    I suggest we meet up again. No response. Next day I tell her where I’ll be–no response.

    Now am I reading this all wrong? She agrees to meet, then flakes—is this just girl self-sabotaging or is she just not interested. The signs aren’t totally clear. I’m leaning towards just leaving it for a few weeks. To text for a meet up would be try-hard. But I will likely see her out and about in the coming weeks and can pick it up in person—which seems a better way of engaging.

    Thoughts?

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    • on August 10, 2015 at 8:52 am theasdgamer

      She’s doing stupid girl game. Push-pull. She thinks it works on men. Ignore her until she apologizes for flaking.

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      • on August 10, 2015 at 10:29 am Greg Eliot

        It sounds more to me like she’s merely doing “not really into you” game…

        Girls are notorious for “being nice” – that’s chickspeak for when they won’t tell you “no” or “forget it” to your face, as you try to spark interest through text, “showing them around”, etc., because they’re “avoiding confrontation.”

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    • on August 10, 2015 at 10:07 am Culum Struan

      Wala – this sounds like not enough attraction to me. Standard tactic is to ignore her for a few weeks (including ignoring her if she texts, unless she is saying “okay let’s meet”) and then re-engage and rebuild attraction over text before pitching a meet.

      If you see her in person – same thing. Be aloof and be seen with other girls and then after a few weeks, re-engage on your terms and push hard to isolate and escalate then and there.

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      • on August 11, 2015 at 12:27 am walawala

        @Culum good call.

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    • on August 10, 2015 at 12:00 pm 10x10

      Wala,

      You have been doing this for over 6 years now. You have also read all the posts here, Krauser’s material and YaReally’s advice as well as having been exposed to a ton of other pua / seduction material. Yet you still ask questions that a newbie would ask. I read your posts and ask myself “is this guy 50 or 15”?

      Krauser’s blog alone has given over a hundred examples of text exchanges. Torero has done the same thing. Look up “Torero’s texting tips” at his YouTube channel for a simple template on how to text to set up dates. But I’m sure you’ve already seen it. Krauser just posted recently about texting and comfort game with the Belgrade girl. You commented on the post. You’ve read this sh*t hundreds of times by now.

      Yet you massively overgame and you have the calibration skills of a bull in a china closet. You show an unlikeability in every field report you give and yet you have read Steve Jabba’s book and even commented on it! You obviously have not internalized his more mature version of game and actually enjoying and liking women. Your posts reveal the psychology of a wounded high school boy who is desperate to get back at girls and show all his friends.

      At this point my take is that you are beyond improvement. All the YaReally advice will not help you. There is something wrong with you at a deep level.

      My take.

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      • on August 10, 2015 at 12:56 pm Greg Eliot

        Now THAT’S what I call RealTalk.

        We’ll see how it goes over when politics isn’t the subject at hand. 😉

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      • on August 10, 2015 at 6:41 pm walawala

        @10 x 10. KJ comment…but ok, I’ll respond.

        Calibration is a major blind spot. There isn’t enough written about it and it just takes trial and error. I’m better but not there yet.

        I’m better at either ploughing through or disappearing. Reading the subtleties is not my strong suit and I suspect it’s a sticking point in a lot of dudes here.

        Maybe I missed something, but maybe you can share the links of your own experiences for all of us to learn from…easy to sit at your keyboard judging others. Much harder to put your own experiences out there for all to see and take from them what they will.

        I don’t think I’m alone in my experience and progress and the dudes here know where I stand and pick up on it for what it’s worth to them.

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      • on August 13, 2015 at 12:37 pm 10x10

        KJ? Whatever.

        Would Steve Jabba do the things you do? Would James Marshal? Would any psychologically healthy 50 year old? You strike me as a grade school child that wants to give a performance in front of his parents and be rewarded for it. You give off an incredibly needy vibe. I can only imagine what women see in you.

        Also, the way you approach game is appropriate for a teenage or maybe someone up to the age of 25, but not a 50 year old man. There is something so adolescent about you.

        Even on the level of external game. Damn man, you have been reading this stuff for 6 years!! The patterns should have been obvious to you now. This is not nuclear physics. As for my “field reports”, I don’t need to post them because once I was exposed to the core premises of game, ie the need for male psycho-sexual dominance, the rest became obvious with practice and sound instruction; my main source of game technique coming from Wayne Elise who was the most mature and healthy of the old school PUAs. But Torero and Krauser are good enough as models. James Marshal is even better.

        What do you really need to know here? She wanted to bring her friend along to the date. That’s a bad move pretty much always. How many times has Krauser written on that? He just posted on this with one of the Belgrade girls! What to do then? What has Krauser done over 100 times? Ping her periodically, flirt lightly over text, invite her out again. That’s it.

        Give her two or three (max) invites as per YaReally’s rules which you’ve read a dozen times by now. Take her on the date and proceed as planned. What more do you need to know? If you can’t get the lay on the first date, as you couldn’t with one of your recent girls (ie “3 handjobs”) then perhaps you should adopt Black Dragon’s 2 date template (much better strategy then goin for first date sex when you are an older man) or PureEvil’s 3 date template (with the proper sexual frames). Yet you’re wasting time with a dozen game tactics that you don’t need and all done in such a negative a-hole style that you think is attractive. That’s why I say you overgame, probably because you have a crap psychology which is why you still post FRs at 50 after 6 years of the same sh*t. (Or maybe its because you’re reliving your 20s again?)

        Yes, I’m being harsh because from your internet persona, you are not a likeable man. That you get laid at all is proof of game’s potency (and the reality of the female need for any type of masculine strength real or in your case faked). Although I still feel sorry for the girls that sleep with you.

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    • on August 10, 2015 at 12:56 pm Sentient

      Thoughts?

      Two –

      What kind of disqualification did you do to her? I.e. “I don’t normally hang with such shy girls lol” and similar hurdles for her to jump over and rise to the challenge. Like with the third wheel, forget how you ended that but something like “don’t trust yourself alone with me heh? That kind of stuff. You are the older white guy in Asia so you should assume your value is super high.

      Second, if she is as young and shy as she seems (put aside the tattoo and clothes – that’s self expression not social experience) how can the situation “just happen”? If you are high social proof and high value in the environment you see her out in, why not just LEAD her via attraction spiking, teasing as above and then try strong boyfriend kino to lead her out of the place with you? Don’t make her make decisions at all…

      And would definitely not initiate contact with her again. Wait till you see her or hear form her.

      Good luck

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      • on August 10, 2015 at 6:45 pm walawala

        @Sentient, thanks interesting stuff on the disqualification which I hadn’t thought of. Will add that to the mix and see how it pans out. Definitely will wait until I run into her again. These things tend to ebb and flow…a setback on one day turns into a victory the next if I don’t backslide. I think in many cases these girls may genuinely be shy, lacking confidence or otherwise surprised by the attention. In my past experience any sudden change of approach is disconcerting to them.

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      • on August 11, 2015 at 8:35 am Sentient

        Here YOU are Wala, running DQ game…

        https://heartiste.wordpress.com/2012/07/12/what-do-you-do-if-a-girl-calls-your-disqualification-bluff/#comment-351607

        Maybe you’ve just gotten in a rut?

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      • on August 11, 2015 at 8:42 am Sentient

        and by rut I mean sloppy game because you’ve had a streak of successes and get lazy…

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      • on August 11, 2015 at 11:01 am walawala

        @Sentient Good call on the DQ game. I ran it above in the situation of the handjob girl. That seemed to work and we’re meeting up this coming weekend.

        In the case of “bring a friend” girl, my game was tight. But the learnings here are that I spiked attraction with the approach, the kino, the outreach and the text game. What I lacked was “comfort” just because it was an approach based on limited interaction. I number-closed her and asked her for drinks and she said “Sure”.

        My question and confusion were around whether it was better to go on the date on HER terms–bringing a friend, or on mine. I replied: “Let’s meet up when you feel more comfortable.” In that sense it gave her an out. She game out, I toned down the game and instead built up the comfort: dancing, more asking questions, showing her my stuff (DHV). I shot out another text to meet up where I was going to be. She didn’t reply. From that I take it, not enough comfort. So my self-assessment: put it on the shelf, leave it a bit, wait until I see her next and gauge how to play it from there.

        It’s interesting that in the past, when I’ve faced similar situations, if I leave it for a while then reconnect with the girl, they tend to be friendlier and often approach me after a period of absence. This I would attribute to their own rationalization hamster playing the whole thing through until they convince themselves they must be more comfortable because otherwise they wouldn’t have thought about it so much. Then when they see me it sparks the initial attraction of when I first approached.

        I feel in some cases, the girls I approach aren’t used to being approached in such a bold way: neg, tease, push-pull, then launching into questions about themselves.

        I’ve had a huge string of successes, but in one recent case I had a great “date” and did everything right but it lead absolutely no where. The girl was on vacation and knew friends of mine so I think I needed more comfort and she was leaving.

        Another interesting case, I met a girl on OKC who I did disqualify saying “I’m not interested in a one night stand or a girlfriend but perhaps something in between.” Her response was “Whoa…i’m not pressuring you, it’s just a meet up.”

        We met, I wasn’t attracted to her at all: she was a 6. I started to put her in my “Friendzone” and I could feel her amping up the kino, leaning in, opening up after initialing being cool. But I was more interested in talking about movies, and photos. At the end I told her I had to go. She said she was going in my direction. She clearly wanted me to invite her over and seemed disappointed when I didn’t. So, calibration….yes, i’m getting better at that.

        This “bring a friend” girl will come back, i’m reasonably certain of it. I’m a high-value guy. She needs time to reconsider. Then if I get 3 IOI’s i’ll propose another meet up and see how it goes. If I don’t. Good learnings overall.

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    • on August 10, 2015 at 1:38 pm anonymous

      Since you “DJ” (verb), I take it you like music. Have you considered learning to play a musical instrument, like a real man?

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    • on August 10, 2015 at 2:19 pm Sean Fielding

      Wala – it sounds to me like success may have gone to your head. Basically, you’ve got a number close here who went on to flake, sort-of, on a meet-up proposal, danced with you a bit once after that and then went cold.

      Surely you’re still getting such responses here and there? I mean, nobody bangs every number close.

      Just go nonchalant. INWARDLY, where it counts – you literally don’t care whether you bang her or not (’cause it sounds like you take it as a personal failing if a single one is this close to the boat but gets away).

      That way you have a better chance when you see her out and about anyway.

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      • on August 10, 2015 at 6:49 pm walawala

        @Sean I do get blown out but what made this different was the sudden flake that came out of no where or perhaps surprised me because the interaction was initially so positive. Everything is a learning.

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  16. on August 10, 2015 at 9:09 am AnonAmog

    Long time lurker.
    I was wondering how game would handle this situation since I can’t use my own natural charms. Went to a titty bar, hit it off with stripper. I’d say HB9 custom made for my preferences, older but maybe not completely cutter damaged, some baggage. Got digits. Called. Got what felt like the blow off. I go back, she’s on me, asks me to call her. I said, you know…I did, right? Yeah and we talked she says. So, later I call..no answer. Alright. so whatever. I go back to club week later. First words were ‘call me’. ‘You don’t answer your phone’ she’s like ‘you called?’. she was popular that night and I left before we could talk more.
    So, I call again and can’t get an answer.
    How hard should this be to seal the deal? Either I am a sucker or I am fucking this up. Tried text but zzz.

    [CH: you trust the word of a stripper? i’m gonna have to go with your first self-evaluation.]

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    • on August 10, 2015 at 10:29 am The Gaffer

      Rem possibly she’s trying to rinse you of your heard earned bucks ?-Its her job

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    • on August 10, 2015 at 10:37 am Culum Struan

      AnonAmog – difficult to tell without more details of the interaction.

      If you go look at CH comments in May 2014 (or search YaReally’s archive) you will see some of my posts about strippers and YaReally’s breakdowns.

      Either

      a) She is setting you up as a mark to rinse you and make you a “special” customer (but still a customer); OR

      b) She actually likes you (it is not easy to get a stripper’s number and to get it as a regular client, usually takes more than one visit) but is too flaky to answer the phone or respond to calls and doesn’t answer unknown numbers anyway.

      Both a or b could be true – hard to tell from your interaction. I would say stop chasing her for now, don’t call her again. Don’t go back for a few weeks, then go back on a quiet night and re-engage and build attraction. Try and get her to meet you THAT night after her shift. If that doesn’t work, tell her you “lost” her number and take it again and game her on text after that (don’t call her)

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      • on August 10, 2015 at 12:09 pm AnonAmog

        Yareally and you go to town in YR’s archive. Let’s say I’ve “respected the ‘Bing” and don’t stare down other clients or act pervy. The typical stripper come ons are obvious so I’m not writing bc the russian one asked me if I’m single. Going to da club as a regular is not a lifestyle choice I’m looking for.

        I brought this up because the behavior was so unusual. I thought I was blown out -which would be fine – but her behavior when I went back was almost cute how she bee-lined for me, her bringing it up a couple of times.

        I guess freeze out is in order bc calling a girl more than once makes me feel retarded. CH is right, she’s lying. My gormless attempt at text flirting didn’t produce either, so game over.

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    • on August 10, 2015 at 10:46 am PA

      Strippers see patrons as either Minnows (normal costumers who spend normal amounts of money) or Whales (big spending customers with a oneitis for them).

      She may be trying to cultivate you as het Whale. What you want to be is a Shark (a client who bangs her). There is a lot of literature out there on becoming a shark. Fundamentals include: never spend any money on her at the club; break conversation first; normal game stuff in conversation. The idea is to prevent her from seeing you as a strip club patron.

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    • on August 10, 2015 at 11:03 am Greg Eliot

      Stripper? Really? (((shakin’ mah haid)))

      Get wise… get to church or some other wholesome community activity and get to know some human females.

      Find the one who’ll only strip for you.

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      • on August 10, 2015 at 11:40 am Benson

        There are just as many hedonistic sluts in the church as there are in the bar, often times they’re the same girls. It’s one of the reasons I ended up here.

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      • on August 10, 2015 at 11:46 am Sentient

        Better is to become the GUY she will only strip for…

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      • on August 10, 2015 at 12:51 pm Greg Eliot

        Good luck with becoming the guy who a stripper will give up the life for.

        Talk about taking cap’n-save-a-ho to the fourth dimension. :duckface

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      • on August 10, 2015 at 12:53 pm Greg Eliot

        There are just as many hedonistic sluts in the church as there are in the bar, often times they’re the same girls. It’s one of the reasons I ended up here.

        Actually, no there aren’t…

        Yes, “good” girls can get their freak on with the right man… DUH!

        But if you’re running into “just as many” sloots in church as in the bars, well… I strongly suggest you stay away from the Unitarians.

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      • on August 10, 2015 at 1:00 pm Sentient

        was talking about your church girls Greg…

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      • on August 10, 2015 at 1:28 pm Benson

        But if you’re running into “just as many” sloots in church as in the bars, well… I strongly suggest you stay away from the Unitarians.

        Denomination doesn’t matter. Church sluts are vigilant about maintaining a veneer of innocence, so they can be harder to spot initially. But it’s a myth that you’ll find higher quality girls in church as opposed to anywhere else.

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      • on August 10, 2015 at 1:58 pm Greg Eliot

        I didn’t realize you were rewording my original statement… it seems we’re in violent agreement.

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      • on August 11, 2015 at 7:10 am Greg Eliot

        No, it’s not a myth.

        The myth, propagated by you PUAs as wishful thinking, is that all women, be they found in bars or churches, are raving sluts who’ll drop dress for Russel Brand.

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      • on August 11, 2015 at 7:34 am PA

        I remain sceptical about any woman’s ability to resist well aimed male charm.

        Therefore I hold that the greater part of female virtue lies not in resisting Game, but in avoiding or extricating herself from situations that would expose her to charming jerkboys.

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      • on August 11, 2015 at 9:31 am Benson

        The myth, propagated by you PUAs as wishful thinking, is that all women, be they found in bars or churches, are raving sluts who’ll drop dress for Russel Brand.

        The church is no longer an effective counterweight to our vapid, shallow culture, and it hasn’t been for decades.
        One of the results of that degeneration is a failure to preserve traditional courtship. Everybody fucks everybody; they’re just more secretive about it on Sunday mornings. I’ve watched it my entire life, and in recent years I’ve experienced it.

        By the way, I’d like nothing more than to get married and start a little nuclear family of my own, Greg. The challenge is becoming a desirable man and then finding a woman worthy of commitment. That’s not new, of course. But the challenge is compounded because there is no longer any alternative to the secular dating game. You approach a lot, go serial dating and eventually meet someone. Or you sit on the sideline.

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    • on August 10, 2015 at 11:42 am elmer

      “Went to a titty bar, hit it off with stripper.”

      LOL. See the discussion above about dancing. After I started dancing I never went into a strip club again. It was infinitely better to have attractive cheerful young women ask me to dance than it ever was giving a dime to the hottest stripper.

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      • on August 10, 2015 at 11:46 am elmer

        Well actually I did go into a strip club 10 years after learning to dance. Their stupid dance moves enraged me. A violation of everything dancers hold sacred. And I told them they couldn’t dance. Now that’s a neg.

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      • on August 10, 2015 at 11:55 am elmer

        Then there’s the whole thing about getting rubber-hosed by the FBI for a security clearance. Much grilling over numerous travels abroad. I told them I was a serious student of dance and was trying to unravel the mysteries of story as encoded by dance. Dance is the inverse kinematic transformation of the biological act of making music. We can only ponder when humans first adorned themselves and started beating their feet in the mud. I made a proposition to the FBI : give me about $100K and I will pose as a dance video producer in Cambodia to gain intel from associated Khmer officials. They did not respond well to this offer. Later solo attempts at dance video production did not end well either.

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    • on August 10, 2015 at 11:08 pm YaReally

      @AnomAmog

      Have you bought any dances or drinks or anything for her at the club? If so, you’re a customer and it’ll be hard to get out of that frame. Have you bought anything for her more than once (like on multiple visits)? Congrats you are a “whale” and will probably NEVER be able to fuck her. Did you ask her for her number? Esp with no time-bridge plans? You probably have her second number for customers. If you haven’t ever bought shit for her and she demanded your number and time bridged you with actual plans to do something together during the #-close you might bang her.

      Strippers have a second phone number they give to customers so the custie gets to feel like they’re totally going to score. Usually they don’t actually answer or talk on this number, cause it’s not their real one, and usually they use it to mass text “it’s so quiet here I miss you baby you should come keep me company :(” and have a dozen guys show up who all think she’s going to fuck them.

      Game a stripper in person instead. Use time bridges when you #-close and watch the Julien vids I like on qualifying her and making her invest to solidify #s.

      And read the forums at stripperweb, they have game too lol

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      • on August 10, 2015 at 11:42 pm Culum Struan

        Lol, from a recent Stripperweb post:

        “That guy sounds like a cheap douche that probably wouldn’t spend anyways but there’s some truth to it. Try not to talk longer than 5 minutes or so. If the conversation is really flowing “I would love to keep spending time with you but I need to make $$. Let’s go to VIP so we can have more privacy.” Don’t ever let them think they can have your attention for free! I’m trying to help a new girl at my club with this issue right now. I did the same when I started….talked to guys for free who I knew had no money…kept talking to guys even after they rejected dances….No! Train them that they have to pay to play. ”

        This is exactly the Game we run, with the genders reversed. This is why strip clubs are interesting – not because it is easy to pull (it’s harder than a regular nightclub and the girls aren’t necessarily hotter) but because the girls come to you and you can test your frame against girls with incredibly strong frames who make a living out of breaking your frame.

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      • on August 11, 2015 at 6:15 am Culum Struan

        I’m reading more of stripperweb and it is absolutely fascinating. Like a mirror image of this place – the goal is “how to make money using your sexuality” but the tactics are virtually the same as PUAs: “your attention is valuable, make him pay”. On how to get a sugar daddy it’s all “be interested in him, not his money..let him bring up money..be irreplaceable and fun to him..those are things money can’t buy..”

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      • on August 11, 2015 at 9:21 am AnonAmog

        Funny thing is…not one pro-OTC topic thread on that site. FWIW (zero), she brought up # to me first time I was there. I left before she could give it to me, got it second time after I asked for it.

        anyway…since I am gameless outside of upper tier natural attributes, I’m still out of my league for this mindfuckery, I think if I ever go back I’ll stick to the obviously mercenary girls and enjoy that for that.

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      • on August 11, 2015 at 10:52 am AnonAmog

        That’s the prob, in reflection, with high self-esteem, rule xi. I got served load of older, cool gal who’s paying a few bills with this part-time gig story by lifer-stripper.

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      • on August 11, 2015 at 2:01 pm Mischievous Cad

        The only girl to ever call me out as a PUA was a stripper.

        Short story…

        The guys behind the bar had tipped me off that this one hot blonde chick was an absolute ball breaking bread head. She eventually got around to approaching me at the bar. I let her run her game on me for a couple of minutes before running my game on her.

        The more I got her qualifying herself the more unimpressed I acted. Playfully negging her for my own and the guys behind the bar amusement. She tried to pull things around by asking me to by her a drink but I told her that I only buy drinks for two types of girls… hot ones or amusing ones, and then asking her if she knew any jokes! The guys behind the bar roared with laughter and she beat a reluctant retreat.

        Later that night she passed by as I was talking to another chick and interrupted us, saying out loud… “He is a PUA”. I could see that the girl I was speaking to hadn’t a clue what a PUA was so I just gave her a big grin and carried on.

        At the end of the night as I was chatting to two other chicks that were lapping up my carefree patter, she came up to us and said out loud “hey you will never ever get into here” pointing to her snatch. Two which I instantaneously replied just as loudly…”that maybe true but your ass is still in danger”. Which got howls of laughter from the other two chicks.

        Months later I did actually end up with her in my bed but only because I was banging her best friend, who alas wasn’t up for the threesome although the ball breaker definitely was.

        The best advice for stripper game, is to first game the guys who work over the bar. Or as the guy in the top-hat said long ago… Win over the guys and the girls will follow.

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      • on August 11, 2015 at 9:48 pm The Awakened One

        @ Yareally

        Left you a comment over at the HB10 field report: https://heartiste.wordpress.com/2015/07/31/face-saving-recovery-game/#comment-692482

        Been reading about your eye contact thing btw. Look forward to trying it this weekend

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  17. on August 10, 2015 at 10:03 am The Joy Of Game | Reaction Times

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  18. on August 10, 2015 at 10:10 am elmer

    This dovetails with my upcoming ebook which has chapter titles “Workplace Women Are Your Enemy” and “How Women Use Cleavage to Manipulate Men”.

    And today’s hysterical rantings in the popular press about Trump’s alleged attack on all women over Mehgyn Kelly’s pre-menstrual crabbiness is exactly mirrored by Encorpera’s Zero Tolerance Policy. The media powers insistence that Trump STEP DOWN NOW and his opponents rush to intone that we cannot tolerate sexism in this campaign is what you would experience on the job were you to imprudently cross the line from advocating women (the heroes, martyrs, and eternal victims who just want a seat at the table) to making thinly veiled threats in the form of sexist code talk. You would be publicly called out for shaming as a teaching moment for the other men to stand up and pledge to never harm a woman. The milktoast managers who have never even taken a dump outside in their life would make great spectacle in denouncing you as security frogmarches you to the door.

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  19. on August 10, 2015 at 10:19 am elmer

    Women think their cleavage is kryptonite to men. For a lot of married office betas it is. It is highly irritating to have some woman displaying her cleavage and using that as a basis to inflict non-verbal micro-aggressions on me; it’s not that I am checking out her rack, it’s that she assumes I am powerless before it and she can select from a range of responses that usually converges to her haughtily acting victimized. A common tactic is for them to display their cleavage and then throw their hair-knot in front of it as if I was ogling them. I didn’t ask for this shit.

    And if you have had lots of interactions with women in your life, if you have an active and abundant dating life, you know the wares she is carefully displaying in the sterile confines of Encorpera are no big deal. Or to quote a male co-worker on seeing the office gals at the pool party “They spend a lot of time dolling themselves up so they look hot at work but once you see them in a bikini they don’t look so good.”

    Outside the workplace, what the hell, women have been showing me their breasts my entire life. Often some sales clerk or functionary will bend over and give me a long enjoyable gaze at her bosom. I mean she just really needs to fetch that item under the counter for some reason while I stand there. I never complain. If my wife is with me they will make an even bigger show of it.

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  20. on August 10, 2015 at 10:27 am The Gaffer

    At least it wasn’t yet another post about Donald fucking Chump

    [CH: translation: “ox gored”. or should i say, “trumped”.]

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    • on August 10, 2015 at 10:43 am Captain Obvious

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      • on August 10, 2015 at 1:48 pm Sean Fielding

        Huge admiration here for the REAL Eskimos in their better days. Look at the alpha-as-fuck face on that guy. Can you imagine what it takes to hunt polar bears with longbow and spears?

        ‘A bear is so constructed that he does so not like to have a spear in him.’

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      • on August 10, 2015 at 1:50 pm Sean Fielding

        Whoops:

        ‘A bear is so constructed that he does not like to have a spear in him.’

        But I like the Valley-girl version too.

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      • on August 10, 2015 at 6:55 pm joel

        Who had the camera?

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    • on August 10, 2015 at 12:44 pm The Gaffer

      Translation: “Interest piqued.”

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      • on August 10, 2015 at 12:49 pm Greg Eliot

        You sound like the kind of guy who celebrates being the first in gym class to get an atomic wedgie.

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  21. on August 10, 2015 at 10:29 am Tempus Fuckit

    Buddy channeled his inner Bill Murray

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  22. on August 10, 2015 at 11:40 am Violator Invictus

    OT, but good news nonetheless. A nagger in Houston killed 8 people of literally no value and will likely be limited by the state in a year or two. Good times.

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  23. on August 10, 2015 at 1:30 pm ER

    More butt hurt white knight posts…

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    • on August 10, 2015 at 2:42 pm ER

      please?

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  24. on August 10, 2015 at 1:31 pm peckerwood

    Perils….

    I remember commenting to my boss about the new secretary he’d hired. Something like “I approve of your selection” and he’s like “oh, my niece?”

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    • on August 10, 2015 at 1:38 pm Sentient

      When lifeguarding back in the day, the two Albanian guys who ran the snack shack grill had a hot sister, who I ended up getting with for the summer (another story) and they were super protective of her, as was her father who managed the restaurant.

      Before we knew all of this, my lifeguard buddy asks the Albanian dudes “so does your sister play hide the salami or what?” thinking this is a perfectly normal thing to say “guy to guy” and they went totally APE SHIT. We couldn’t eat at that place all summer…

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      • on August 10, 2015 at 1:54 pm Glengarry

        Funny, but seriously what did your buddy expect? That’s some way below “Hey man, how old is your daughter?”

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      • on August 10, 2015 at 2:08 pm Sentient

        Just a natural, and really he wouldn’t have cared if you asked him about his sister that way…

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    • on August 11, 2015 at 9:53 am peckerwood

      fucking natureals can do whatever they like

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      • on August 11, 2015 at 10:11 am Sentient

        Haha. He was an Italian kid, used to sit around the house in his underwear and yell at his mom to make him meatballs and stuff… Like in a movie… and she did.

        He would make all kinds of fun of his 2 year older sister being a slut etc. Once he said to her as she was going out “Hey Theresa, did you put back the bucket of axle grease and the crowbar you used to get into those jeans?” We all had huge crushes on Theresa, she was that slim, hot guido chick…

        He was a character… I think a big part of it was that in a WC neighborhood where brawn was king, he was a pituitary freak and had a ripped man’s body at 14… He was getting HJ’s from 25 YO girls whose house he was just riding past on his banana seat bicycle who told him she would fuck him but she had to go to work (while we waited in the front yard on our bikes), his first real GF when he was a HS sophomore was a smoking hot 22YO who had her own place, and he predictably treated her like shit, constantly broke up with her, she was damn near suicidal after he broke off for good with her and went full alpha widow born again christian a few years later… another one was when he was a HS senior and we worked at this place and he was banging the 25 YO assistant manager… same thing… he broke off with her and she flipped out…

        He also played drums, but only in basement bands… Not shows…

        The thing though that stands out the most thinking back with him, when we were like 13-14 YO’s and dreaming of when we would fuck some girls, his comment was “Yeah man, I want to see a tear running down her cheek when i’m fucking her”… Much wisdom in that thought, looking back

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      • on August 11, 2015 at 10:33 am theasdgamer

        You write like fakkin’ James Joyce.

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      • on August 11, 2015 at 10:50 am theasdgamer

        Lol, I took Mrs. Gamer to dance at a lesson where a broad has been flirting with me and dancing a lot with me just to mess with this other broad. The broad was so pissed that she had to play second fiddle to Mrs. Gamer and the other broad ended up dancing with this old fat guy who will probably stalk her, lol.

        Feeding my inner machiavel, heh. I do it because I can, heh, heh, heh.

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      • on August 11, 2015 at 10:51 am Sentient

        Periods are for chicks…

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  25. on August 10, 2015 at 2:16 pm Hungry Hungry RINOs

    http://madamenoire.com/578480/powerball-winner-spends-9-million-to-bail-boyfriend-out-of-jail/

    maybe he had tight game…

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  26. on August 10, 2015 at 2:31 pm PimpinBlueStar

    Once you accept women as the weaker sex, teasing them becomes all the more easier. It’s how true cohesion between the sexes is formed.

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  27. on August 10, 2015 at 2:38 pm x13

    advice: don’t date girls at work, most are ugly, I smell desperation from girl, good bye

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  28. on August 10, 2015 at 4:14 pm Capper

    My Russian-American friend, 33, just married an 18 year-old from Ukraine. Totally normal. No one tried to “shame” him because of the age difference and the families both seem to be really happy with the whole thing. Something that I admire about their culture is that they’re not all hung up about such things. It’s just natural… for now at least. Who knows what PC nightmares the future had in store for that region.

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  29. on August 10, 2015 at 7:02 pm Noel

    to CH & fellow readers:

    Requesting an analysis.

    Caveat: This is that co-worker who flaked on me from before [recap: she’s 24; I’m 41]. Following the advice of CH & other commenters I’ve NEXTED and moved on. I’ve not texted her. I’m not gaming her.

    This afternoon, however, I was IM’ing her out of workplace boredom. No real attempt at gaming, teasing, flirting, asking her out, etc. Nothing witty, etc. Just a plain vanilla conversation. As CH rightly pointed out, I have had no hand and don’t wish to inflate her ego or endanger my job. Plus I’m thinking Jumbotron the entire time.

    So my request for all of your analysis isn’t “how do I bang her, what are the next steps” but rather: what set her off?

    I’ve been asking people around the office if they watch “old’ movies. I’m a TCM fan and think old movies have many instances of game.

    Note the last thing this co-worker said. I may be imagining things, but she sounds angry. Why? What set her off?

    My request is one about general female psychology. Did she think I was gaming her? I certainly wasn’t doing so….

    Me: do you watch / like watching old movies, i.e., pre-1980
    Her: mmmm not really. selected few
    Me: like….
    Her: i dont even know if the 1st one is pre 1980
    Her: but naked gun
    Me: that’s 1988
    Her: then probably not lol
    Me: that’s the norm
    Her: monty python?
    Me: you watch that for real
    Her: I’ve watched clips haha
    Me: ah. also the norm
    Her: okay lol
    Me: so no ‘it’s a wonderful life’ during xmas then
    Her: huh?
    Me: every xmas they play nostop that movie….
    Her: oh then i’ve missed out?? i dont watch tv much
    Her: i usually stay updated with youtube or newspapers haha
    Me: i don’t watch much tv.
    Her: I do not watch television much.
    Me: just curious how many people watch old movies
    Her: happy?
    Me: lol

    Thoughts?

    Thanks….

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    • on August 11, 2015 at 8:51 am Sentient

      Dude – you are concerning me…

      You say THIS:

      “Following the advice of CH & other commenters I’ve NEXTED and moved on. I’ve not texted her. I’m not gaming her.”

      Followed IMMEDIATELY by this:

      “This afternoon, however, I was IM’ing her out of workplace boredom.”

      How are you going no contact and then contacting her? You seem to have trouble just understanding basic procedures and following advice. This is not going to help your game development.

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  30. on August 11, 2015 at 12:35 am walawala

    @Noel a few things stand out: 1) it’s work 2) age difference– 3) the aimless conversation that took up her time but didn’t go anywhere and didn’t tap into her thoughts, feelings etc. 4) “naked” gun stood out here as a sexualization

    A few places here you could have just moved this into a direction

    “Monty python”

    You: I never would have taken you for a fan…you seem too straight-laced

    For example…

    Her: I usually stay updated with youtube or newspapers

    You: newsflash then send a link of a water skiing squirrel

    The interaction was too long and a bit ‘factual’ and not fun enough.

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    • on August 11, 2015 at 1:04 am Culum Struan

      Noel – just to add to what wala said:

      1. Whether you’re “gaming” or not, that’s still you chasing her. She hardly engaged or got involved in the conversation = limited investment. An interesting approach in this kind of situation is to try and figure out what a girl will emotionally respond to and invest in (even if not gaming) – push some buttons and see.

      2. Jumbotron is good as a rule of thumb, but it’s not an absolute. As long as you do it from a place of high value (and not supplicating or rapport seeking) it’s absolutely fine to text or message lots – but you need to know what you’re doing (see YaReally’s archives for lots on this). I’m just slowly getting the hang of this in texting myself – you need to give the girls space to chase you.

      For eg, I cut off an 18 yr old 7.5 gold digger from a sugar daddy site a few weeks ago (I told her I didn’t pay cash and said we shouldn’t meet if she wanted cash – she said she didn’t want to meet. I didn’t reply). One month later she texts me saying “do you want to meet up this week?” [ie, on my terms]. (PS – I am off sugar daddy sites now, but there’s still some girls in the pipeline from before)

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      • on August 11, 2015 at 1:07 am Culum Struan

        Just to add Noel – when I say “push some buttons” – I mean say something that gives her an emotional hook to respond to – statement, not question. Stuff like “You look like the kind of girl who..[something]” or a picture like Wala’s lion bite picture..just something to get an emotional reaction – not interview game, you know?

        Then you don’t give her the validation she wants (ie, WHY did you think X about her) and she will chase you. (I once asked a girl what her height was. She told me and then kept chasing me when I wouldn’t tell her why I’d asked her..any random thing can work)

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  31. on August 11, 2015 at 4:58 am Flames

    “Don’t shit where you eat”

    Is absolute nonsense. The best thing I ever did was use “Game” at work. I can only wonder why anyone wouldn’t, maybe American indoctrination?

    Game for respect, Game for Manipulation, Game for seduction.

    Game, Game, Game…

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    • on August 11, 2015 at 10:07 am oink

      not about the use of skills, but the end to which one uses skills.

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  32. on August 11, 2015 at 9:38 am King James Version

    GAME, AND HOW IT IS USED TO GET LAID: AN EXPLORATORY CASE STUDY

    The following course of events is how I incorporated the precepts of learned charisma in a successful effort to get action

    Saturday nite

    6:15pm got on subway and headed to Russian market in the large East Asian city I find myself posted as I felt like hooking up with white girlz.

    6:50 arrive at indoor market 10 mins before they closed. Began making reconnaissance sweeps of the general vicinity looking for hot girls.

    6:57pm find sexy young russian brunette sampling loose leaf tea by herself at a vendor’s stall. Feign interest, plop myself down beside her and engage her in confident conversation. Command her to get me the same good deal she got. Engage in usual talk such as where are you from. She gets more interested as we speak.

    7:07pm her friend comes and sits down and engages me in conversation. Find out they are flight attendants from Kazakhstan. They are so enamoured of me they ask what I’m doing tonite. Friend asks for my whatsapp. Tells me where they’re staying. Says she will text me when back at hotel with wifi. I show them pictures of various places I’ve travelled round the world and brag about what a grey photog I am.

    8:00 get text from hot friend (both in 20s) to meet me at a certain subway stn and we will head out from there for drinks.

    9:46 meet them on time at said location. They bring third friend, also flight attendant. Intentionally mispronounce her name into something funny and she loves it. Call her that for rest of nite.

    9:51 hail taxi. 3 girls in back, me up front, entertaining them and boasting. Girls enjoy it. Girls proffer money for cab payment before I do.

    10.07pm enter restaurant. Order beers. Tell dhv stories about travel, places I’ve been, things, I’ve done, and paint romantic scenes of my native country with log cabins, snow covered fields and trees, and crackling fireplaces in log cabins. Girl 2, who btw shows up for evening very done up, puts leg playfully near mine. Girls offer to pay. We leave.

    10.20 enter rooftop nightclub. Boast and be cocky. Get girl 3 to feel my pecs. She has husband. Make sexual innuendo laced jokes non stop. They love it. Tell girl 1 thy I could pick her up no problem, physically. Do so about 30 mins later.

    10.30 sit in private pod with girl 2. Get cozy and talk bullshit.

    10.40 go dance with all 3 girls on rooftop dance floor. Get close to them.

    11.30? Go downstairs and flirt with all three girls, find out #3 has husband in Azerbaijan, joke about her getting laid tonight. Says she might take sexy pics. I volunteer to take them. By the way, impress them habitually with my knowledge of russian. Don’t know that much but even knowing 60 words/phrases when you’re a cornfed wasp is pretty damn impressive.

    12.00 or so. Announce we’re changing venues. Spread my attention on all 3 girls to keep them guessing. Physically pick up #1.

    12.20 arrive at bar. #3 goes home in cab claims husband issues via text.

    01:00 – guzzle beers, shooters, girls gladly pay. Get physically close with #2, kino etc. show her dance moves.

    02:30 – they take group selfies at bar, all I say is how handsome I am in photos (true).

    03:00 – go to washroom. Come back, short black guy sitting at my spot talking to both girls. Swat him away. Russian guy with big headphones, douchey countenance directly engages both girls. He takes #1 upstairs. Escalate further in one on one situation with #1. Kiss her a tiny bit at barstool. #1 returns from rooftop, russian dude has fucked off. I tell more sexually laced stories. #1 goes out for smoke, says she found Swedish girl outside sexy. Denies being lesbian but concedes she felt something.

    03:30? Tell #2 to come to my hotel. Responds with asd stock talking points. I respond with no expectations, etc, propaganda. It is agreed, we will go.

    03:45 have to return to previous club because #3 left some stupid thing there, while #1 looks for it, get #2 to sit on my lap outside and sensually kiss her shoulders and arms. Take #2 around corner and do full make out. She puts hands down my pants and strokes.

    04:20 put #1 in taxi, take next taxi with #2 to my place.

    04:45 immediately throw #2 on bed rip clothes off, she sucks enthusiastically, rides me, raw dog. Cum all over face. Sleep.

    07:30 do it again, various positions, she says my cock is beautiful. Cum on face,neck,mouth. Put finger in her butt.

    10:30 do it once more, again destroy her.

    12:00 have toast, send her home in taxi. Don’t know her age, but estimate 25. Banging body, slightly asian face. Long hair. Sexually submissive.

    I doubt I could have pulled all that off 2 yrs ago.

    I’m white and in 30s.

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    • on August 11, 2015 at 4:04 pm The Gaffer

      Poetry

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