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The Sly “Game Contradictions” Troll

August 12, 2015 by CH

There is a relatively new class of troll who bears a striking resemblance to the well-known “concern troll”, but who is in some respects far more insidious in his methodology and ability to derail comment threads on blogs devoted to the teachings of the charisma arts. I call this new breed the “game contradictions troll”.

A classic example of the game contradictions troll is this comment by “The Shrike” (who may not necessarily be an insincere troll, but whose complaint nonetheless serves as an ideal representative of the sort of comment a game contradictions troll would leave).

A lot of sound advice in this post. It looks like the author is slowly shifting away from the unabashed, detached Lothario pose to a more conservative outlook on life. Conservative values are not my own, but it seems that this is a more consistent approach when it comes to the opinions often professed by the author and most of the commenters here. A recurrent theme is the impending collapse of the Western civilization, largely caused by female hypergamy. The majority seems to abhor the fact modern women ride the proverbial “cock-carousel”, seemingly forgetting that no amount of game would be effective against uptight prudes who only ever do it after marriage, and only to procreate.

Game contradictions trolls thrive on a studied ignorance or disavowal of the true fact of life that there are different standards for the sexes, and that these standards are not set by men, but by nature, and men merely conform to these sexual market standards and rationalize their fairness (or unfairness) when it suits them, (we are not a rational species, we are a rationalizing species).

No one on this board has claimed that female hypergamy is the prime cause of Western decline. Female hypergamy is one of those differing sexual market standards that apply to women and not to men, and that can’t be wished away. The assertion often made at CH is that female hypergamy is a real phenomenon, and it is best to accept the reality of it and MAKE IT WORK FOR YOU rather than shake your fist ineffectually at it in hopes women magically cure themselves of their evolved desire to mate with, and extract the commitment of, the highest status men that their looks can realistically afford.

Riding the cock carousel is NOT necessarily a manifestation of female hypergamy. The cock carousel is the consequence of socially atomized anonymous urban environments coupled with contraceptives and economic self-sufficiency providing cover and incentive for women to indulge the part of their sexuality that yearns for dominant, charming, jerkboy cads who are hard to pin down into committed relationships. This is not female hypergamy fulfilled, but female hypergamy THWARTED, as it is the Darwinian directive of every woman to land the most desirable alpha man and to KEEP HIM AROUND.

There is an interesting clash of contradicting attitudes here. Not arguments between different posters, but internally inconsistent opinions voiced by the same people. Game is still a hallowed topic, not to be touched with a mortal hand, but it runs counter to the otherwise conservative leanings of the commenters. A stable family-unit, also much cherished around here, is mutually exclusive to widespread promiscuity exemplified by men who “game” women, and women who are willing to play along.

Another category error made often and reliably by trolls and anti-game haters. “Game” is not synonymous with promiscuity, although game certainly aids the pursuit of promiscuity if that is what is desired. A man could just as easily use game — aka learned charisma — to meet, seduce, date, and when the time is right, marry the most beautiful oneitis he has ever laid eyes on. I wouldn’t recommend it, but there you go.

Ultimately, there is a choice to be made if a man is to be congruent at the most basic level. Either champion a virtuous society where loyalty matters a lot, and people pair up with the intention of forming serious relationships. Or support the cad lifestyle where jumping from one woman to the next without any consideration is the norm.

Men have a longer SMV window than women and bear a smaller cost for each act of copulation than do women, which means in practice each man can, and should, get some romantic experience under his belt (heh) and then marry, if he wishes to marry, a younger woman. The fact of biologically grounded sex differences which aren’t going anywhere means that cadding about is always going to be less psychologically, reproductively and emotionally expensive for men than slutting around will be for women.

If it’s the latter, then it’s difficult to blame women for trying to do the same.

First, most women aren’t interested in doing the same, despite transparently try-hard protestations to the contrary by fat, bitter feminists. Second, it’s not difficult to blame the women trying to emulate the lifestyle of the alpha male cad for their short-sightedness. Different sex-based standards in the sexual market, and different sex-based psychosexual temperaments, are an emergent fact of life, not a directive handed down by the invisible pimp hand of the patriarchy.

If it’s the former, then much of the game concept goes out the window, though some aspects of getting a chosen female interested presumably are still useful.

How about, “game gives men the tools to successfully attract and keep women in sexual and emotional relationships.” There. That’s not so hard now, is it?

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  1. on August 12, 2015 at 12:46 pm she likes it ruff

    the decline of western civilization is due to the private control of fiat currency.

    hypergamy is just a symptom of one hundered years of political disease.

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    • on August 12, 2015 at 1:28 pm Captain Obvious

      Control of Fiat Money AND control of the “Culture” [i.e. the polluting thereof].

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      • on August 12, 2015 at 1:30 pm Captain Obvious

        In re the death spiral of fiat money, great article from last year, by Charles Hugh Smith: http://www.oftwominds.com/blogmay14/costs5-14.html

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      • on August 12, 2015 at 2:55 pm Starets

        Lols at the pic; Nanookbergstein of the North!

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      • on August 13, 2015 at 9:00 am Captain Obvious

        Megyn Kelly Announces Immediate Vacation for 1.5 Weeks – Twitter Goes Wild http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3324204/posts

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      • on August 13, 2015 at 9:03 am Captain Obvious

        Unless CH is deep in some bunker negotiating something uber-important to his career, then I trust that he is busy writing his article about sleep-their-way-to-the-top careerist c*nts like Megyn Kelly and how much damage they do to an organization. The larger question will be whether Rupert Murdcuck tolerates this Alpha move by Ailes.

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    • on August 12, 2015 at 3:14 pm Arbiter

      “the private control of fiat currency” = one of the intellectual side shows paleoconservatives and libertarians like to engage in.

      The real issue is media control. If the media had been in White hands, whether the currency is fiat or based on gold wouldn’t matter one bit.

      And in private control? Oh, please. First, that’s not the case in Canada, Australia, New Zealand or Western Europe, and yet the situation is the same. Learn to look outside the U.S. also. Second, that old canard is as ridiculous as the “It’s a republic, not a democracy!” bullshit. While private banks have stakes in the Federal Reserve, the Fed chairman is appointed by the president, and does his bidding. When Alan Greenspan vastly expanded the money supply to ensure Bill Clinton would win another term with a fake upswing he did it on Clinton’s behalf, not on the behalf of some private banks. What, do you think that if Clinton had wanted one thing and those banks had wanted another, Clinton wouldn’t have had his way? The man who could depose the chairman?

      Obsessing over the Fed is what conservatives do when they don’t dare talk about media control.

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      • on August 12, 2015 at 4:16 pm Big MAX

        The Eskimos have media control because they lend fiat-money to their brother Eskimo with no interest / usury. I’ve seen it done.

        Much easier to establish any business when you dont have to pay interest / usury. Eskimos then charge the Gentiles more in Interest, Rent, Taxes, etc etc,

        she likes it ruff is absolutely correct. Currency Debasement = Society Debasement.

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      • on August 12, 2015 at 7:52 pm theasdgamer

        obsess over the Fed (cough-GBFM-cough)

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      • on August 13, 2015 at 8:17 am Arbiter

        The Eskimos have media control because they lend fiat-money to their brother Eskimo with no interest / usury.

        Those were BANKS lending money, not the Fed. If that was done at all. Possibly yes, but we should never make claims about the Tribe that there is no proof of.

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      • on August 13, 2015 at 11:53 am Captain Obvious

        Donald “Sterling” Tokowitz: “The Jewish people have a company and it’s for people who want to borrow money for no interest…” http://isteve.blogspot.com/2014/05/donald-sterling-turns-to-isteve-for-his.html

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      • on August 13, 2015 at 12:01 pm Publius 2015

        Arbiter is willfully clueless (Jewish) on the big picture. It says right in their old testament holy book that Jews lend to each other with no interest but can charge interest to goyim. And that is exactly what the Federal Reserve does. How stupid are you?

        The “banks” who “did the lending” — Bank of America, Wells Fargo, CitiBank, etc. — the bailed out “big 6” — how the fuck do you think they got their money to lend? Exactly what the fuck value did the provide the world to get that wealth? It all started somewhere.

        The big banks who were bailed out are merely subsidiaries of the Federal Reserve, which is a private Jewish bank.

        Even the MSM prints this fact because most people don’t understand what is happening: the big banks “borrow” the money from the Fed at zero or sometimes LESS THAN ZERO interest rates (that’s right; they sometimes get paid to take the money) and then lend it to the goy (including corporations) at interest.

        the old testament explains very clearly how this is part of the plan. we don’t need to know if the protocols of the learned elders of zion is a forgery.

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      • on August 13, 2015 at 12:03 pm Publius 2015

        what are you talking about? there is no such paleo. we rail against the media control too. they own everything because they get their money for free.

        CH, ban this Arbiter clown or smack him down a bit. He’s nearly as bad as spirit within.

        arbiter, are you a troll or a retard? there is no paleoconservative who complains about the federal reserve thing while being afraid to talk about media control.

        they only thing any of us fear is getting put on a watch list or our real names getting known, which would destroy our careers at a minimum

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      • on August 13, 2015 at 12:04 pm Publius 2015

        you don’t think the Euro is also a Rothschild bank fiat jew dollar?

        you are a jewish mole or a retarded fuck, arbiter.

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      • on August 13, 2015 at 5:50 pm Big MAX

        Arbiter

        I am the accountant for one of the Richest Eskimos in Australia.

        On a weekly basis ill write a cheque for $50 – 100k to help out a brother eskimo with a property or business deal. $500k cheques go out every couple of months.

        They all club together and help each other out… Their media bros give them free positive reviews and promote Eskimo businesses, movies, art etc etc. Him and his mates are also crazy about blondes

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      • on August 13, 2015 at 5:53 pm Big MAX

        I am also tasked with Debt Collection, if a gentile misses a rent payment, it immediately goes legal.. FREE legal from a brother who is a lawyer.

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    • on August 12, 2015 at 6:00 pm Irish Savant

      Although two of the biggest CBs (the FRB and the Bank of England) are privately owned, most in fact are owned by their respective states. The international banking game is governed by the BIS in Basle, and that institution is rumoured to be controlled by the Rothschilds.

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      • on August 13, 2015 at 11:58 am Captain Obvious

        > “the BIS in Basle” ——— That’s fascinating. I always wondered why Credit Suisse kept showing up in the Chicago/JYC Eskimo network which worked so furiously to transform Barry Soebarkah Dunham into Barack Hussein Obama the Messiah: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2348280/posts

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      • on August 13, 2015 at 12:01 pm Captain Obvious

        It never dawned on me that the Rothschilds would be centered in Switzerland, rather than the Bordeaux/London axis. Maybe that’s why Switzerland stayed neutral in WWII? Maybe Bordeaux is just a plaything for them?

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      • on August 13, 2015 at 12:09 pm Publius 2015

        https://www.bis.org/publ/arpdf/ar2015e1.htm

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    • on August 12, 2015 at 7:56 pm Sentient

      “hypergamy is just a symptom of one hundered years of political disease.”

      Nonsense – hypergamy is hard wired. You see its effects however much more rapidly and clearly because of the disease you cite. But it is always there and will never go away.

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      • on August 13, 2015 at 7:38 am Obviously Cap'n

        The Eskimos saw it in their psychiatric practices in Vienna and Frankfurt [and later in JYC] – back then, they called it “nymphomania” – and they [Evil Psychiatry Inc] knew damned well that “hypergamy” aka “nymphomania” could be unleashed to destroy the Shkotzim. Ergo the all-out Eskimo drive to seize control of Shegetz Thomas Edison’s moving pictures and Shegetz Philo Farnsworth’s electronic transmission of moving pictures, so as to use the new technologies to p0rn-ify Shkotzim culture and unleash “hypergamy” aka “nymphomania” upon the Shkotzim. A particularly powerful Sanhedrin, named David Sarnoff, was instrumental in destroying Farnsworth.

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      • on August 13, 2015 at 8:07 am Hungry Hungry RINOs

        Thay’s why women were controlled with a strong masculine culture.
        They’re natural followers.

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    • on August 13, 2015 at 8:35 pm Canadian Friend

      The decline of western civilization is mostly due to the culture being controlled and destroyed by the left and their handlers.

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  2. on August 12, 2015 at 12:46 pm Cydonia 19.5

    Proving once again that the PC Libtard crowd will never be satisfied, no matter how many times normal people bend to their will. Enjoy the collapse.

    http://www.breitbart.com/london/2015/08/12/in-europe-the-whole-band-aids-are-racist-thing-is-taking-off-again/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social

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    • on August 12, 2015 at 1:22 pm Greg Eliot

      Off-hand, I don’t like the mewling about “white privilege”.

      But that negro band-aid isn’t actually such a bad idea, aesthetically.

      And it’s going to be humorous, seeing all the whiggers and SJWs wearing them in solidarity.

      But good luck matching ALL those shades of sh… eh, coffee.

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      • on August 12, 2015 at 1:23 pm mendozatorres

        Clouds in my coffee, clouds in my coffee

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      • on August 12, 2015 at 1:32 pm Greg Eliot

        You probably think this post is about you.

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      • on August 12, 2015 at 1:32 pm Cydonia 19.5

        Check out the “Eskimo” name behind the mewling. Who would have thunk ??

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      • on August 12, 2015 at 2:22 pm Beef Hambone

        When black band aids show up in my store, that’s all I’m going to buy. And when I get called a racist for mocking them, I will feign shock and say something like “these are flesh colored” or “I don’t see color anymore”. And then claim they are racist for making such a bigoted comment. Hahaha

        [CH: “band-aid colors are a social construct.”]

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    • on August 12, 2015 at 1:35 pm anonymous

      As with all technology, if Africans were the only humans who ever existed in the world, then they would not have band-aids at all. They would never have invented the plastic, adhesive glue, padding, or manufacturing process. Even though their continent has an abundance of all of the raw materials needed.

      To quote Brick Top: “Listen, you fucking fringe, if I throw a dog a bone, I don’t want to know if it tastes good or not. You stop me again whilst I’m walking, and I’ll cut your fucking Jacobs off. ”

      lzolzozlzozlz

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    • on August 12, 2015 at 3:09 pm Arbiter

      That band-aid thing is nonsense. I bet Blacks don’t want black band-aids either, because light colors look nice, dark colors don’t. Light band-aids look healthy, a black band-aid would look like it’s caked with blood and dirt.

      Do Black women like dark underwear? No, they like white underwear because of the contrast. What looks like the skin color is on no one’s mind. We don’t get skin-colored swimming trunks and bathing suits.

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      • on August 12, 2015 at 6:04 pm Irish Savant

        “Do Black women like dark underwear? ”

        Yes. Skid marks don’r show up so clearly.

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      • on August 12, 2015 at 7:06 pm Otsuka Duojinshi

        Veteran tip borne of long, hard won experience:

        If you ever buy lingerie or any sexy thang for a women never, ever buy any color other than white. ANY other color sets off slut defense mechanisms.

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      • on August 12, 2015 at 7:54 pm theasdgamer

        Meh, Mrs. Gamer doesn’t have a problem with the black lingerie I bought her.

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      • on August 12, 2015 at 8:00 pm RD

        I don’t normally wear underwear. But when i do, I choose black, like me.

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      • on August 12, 2015 at 8:02 pm Sentient

        “If you ever buy lingerie or any sexy thang for a women never, ever buy any color other than white. ANY other color sets off slut defense mechanisms.”

        Not hardly. You’re doing something else wrong.

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      • on August 12, 2015 at 8:10 pm theasdgamer

        Maybe he tries to get her to wear it to her family reunion. I’d say church, but that doesn’t seem to inhibit girls from wearing slutty togs.

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      • on August 13, 2015 at 6:45 am Greg Eliot

        If you ever buy lingerie or any sexy thang for a women never, ever buy any color other than white. ANY other color sets off slut defense mechanisms.

        Only on the first date.

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      • on August 13, 2015 at 7:51 am Obviously Cap'n

        I think the huge problem here is that buying lingerie [and giving gifts in general] is totally Lesser Beta and even Greater Gamma. UNLESS maybe there was a younger-hotter-tighter chick working the lingerie department that day, and you took younger-hotter-tighter back in the fitting room and at least got a very quiet and discrete blow job out of it [Peak Alpha status if if you actually pegged her and she screamed “Oh my God I’m coming!!!” and she got fired from her job at the department store over the incident. Uber Peak Alpha if you were arrested and had your photograph in the newspaper for a public indecency rap.]

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      • on August 13, 2015 at 7:54 am Obviously Cap'n

        But you definitely have to have that sly sh!t-eating grin in your mug shot. Which means you need to Game the policewoman [or else AMOG/bro-not-ho the policeman] who snaps the mugshots, and convince them to allow you to assume character before they take the pic.

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  3. on August 12, 2015 at 12:48 pm Reservoir Tip

    I had an interesting experiment in “push-pull” over the weekend.

    German girl was visiting my city before heading back to Germany, and we spent one evening on the couch watching movies and cuddling. Something had been on my mind, and had me in a bit of a mood, so I intentionally played this up and went relatively silent for a bit. My hands roamed, and eventually made it into her pants, but she pulled away a bit, claiming to be on her period (she was).

    At this, I stood up, scoffed, and moved to the other couch. I didn’t say a word to her. In 30 minutes, she was on my couch and all over me.

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    • on August 12, 2015 at 3:05 pm Arbiter

      Good to hear that it worked out. But I’d guess that she still would have made out with you, wouldn’t she?

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    • on August 12, 2015 at 3:55 pm theasdgamer

      She had her T-spike. Set up a meetup the day after Flo leaves.

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  4. on August 12, 2015 at 12:50 pm bookooball

    Even the best intentioned females need to be kept honest with game. Conservative men used to be very aware of this fact and used it to their advantage rather than try to put the onus on her. Guess life is easier without as many responsibilities.

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    • on August 12, 2015 at 1:39 pm Captain Obvious

      > “hypergamy… the Darwinian directive of every woman to land the most desirable alpha man and to KEEP HIM AROUND…” ——— I forget whether Le Chateau talked about this the last time, but the Darwinian directive there needs an addendum: KEEP HIM AROUND WHILE YOUR OVARIES ARE STILL PLUMP AND FERTILE AND FILLED WITH YOUNG ENERGETIC EGGS. The key breeding time for human females seems to be circa the age of 17 to 35, and maybe some gals can round that up to 20 to 40. But catching a 50yo Peak Alpha when she’s 39yo and still childless might already way be too late – she needed to be settling down at least ten years earlier than that, if not fifteen.

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      • on August 12, 2015 at 2:17 pm Captain Obvious

        I don’t know whether Sarah Jessica Parker’s character got married in Sluts & the City I [2008] or Sluts & the City II [2010], but Sarah Jessica Parker was born in 1965, so Chosen-Not-Frozen are sending the clear message to all the childless Shiksa career girls that you can wait until you’re in your mid-40s [and look like a hideous old Eskimoess hag] before you finally settle down with Mr Peak Alpha, which is at least fifteen years too late if you want to have any hope of having children with him.

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      • on August 12, 2015 at 3:04 pm Arbiter

        Now now Captain, don’t you know that “a woman’s sexual prime is in her thirties”?

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      • on August 12, 2015 at 7:01 pm LP

        The odds of becoming pregnant each month after 40, for a woman, are less than 5%. With environmental influences, and more women experiencing early diminished ovarian reserves, I would say 35 is the new 40 for the max age of fertility. In other words, assume the eggs are long gone by 35.

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      • on August 12, 2015 at 9:43 pm Captain Obvious

        Arbiter, in an earlier era, women who married and started giving birth in their twenties could keep pushing out children well into their mid-40s. But something has changed – and changed horribly for the worse. The key is probably to start pushing them out at a young age [it seems to change the body chemistry for the better], and to NEVER pollute the body with chemical abortifacients [birth control pills]. And course neither obesity at the one extreme, nor sub-10% body fat in female athletes at the other extreme, do any good to help a woman produce live births.

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  5. on August 12, 2015 at 12:53 pm Cydonia 19.5

    For those who thought that the ” outrage ” would stop with the Confederate battle flag. Remember, this is a war against white people, their symbols, and accomplishments, and will never end until one side, or the other, achieves total victory.

    http://www.newsweek.com/its-time-haul-down-another-flag-racist-hate-361929

    [CH: couldn’t see this next move by leftoids coming at all. nope, not at all. /sarcasm]

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    • on August 12, 2015 at 1:17 pm Greg Eliot

      Opinion piece by one Rick Perlstein…

      Every… fucking… time. (((shakin’ it)))

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      • on August 12, 2015 at 1:30 pm Captain Obvious

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      • on August 12, 2015 at 1:34 pm Greg Eliot

        Say, Cap’n, I think it’s time to retire that old guy’s mug (who most won’t recognize) and put Perlstein’s phiz in the Arctic…

        Even if they don’t know his name, they’ll know his number. 😉

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      • on August 12, 2015 at 1:41 pm anonymous

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      • on August 12, 2015 at 2:29 pm Big Jim

        This guy literally looks just like that happy merchant meme.

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      • on August 12, 2015 at 2:38 pm Greg Eliot

        Heh, heh… stereotypes don’t arise in a vacuum.

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      • on August 12, 2015 at 2:38 pm Arbiter

        Greg, it is pure coincidence that one small race, making up only 2.5 percent of the U.S. population, has initiated Marxism, Frankfurt-School teachings, feminism, anti-“racism”, etc. It is a pure coincidence that said race funded the NAACP, gave it huge media publicity, and that the first presidents of the NAACP were not Blacks but from this race. It is pure coincidence that they ran and dominated the Communist Party USA and made up most of the Soviet spy rings that delivered nuclear secrets to the Soviet Union, nearly dooming the whole world to a nuclear holocaust. And it is pure coincidence that two of their kind from the Communist Party USA were MLK’s closest advisors, and that they surrounded Roosevelt, Clinton, Bush and now Obama as campaign managers and White House advisors, pushing socialist policies, Israel obediance and mass immigration.

        To say anything else would be anti-Semitic. Even if renegades from their own Tribe, such as Paul Gottfried and Israel Shahak, also criticize this state of affairs.

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      • on August 12, 2015 at 2:44 pm Greg Eliot

        Nevertheless, we have it on good authority that NAJALT. :duckface

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      • on August 12, 2015 at 3:02 pm Starets

        That’s a very good meme. It would be a good one to go viral.

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      • on August 12, 2015 at 4:52 pm pithom

        And it is pure coincidence that two of their kind from the Communist Party USA were MLK’s closest advisors, and that they surrounded Roosevelt, Clinton, Bush and now Obama as campaign managers and White House advisors, pushing socialist policies, Israel obediance and mass immigration.

        -Communists don’t tend to be very pro-Israel, you know? And pro-Israelists don’t tend to be very pro-Communist. And I doubt Israel obedience and support for mass immigration is all that correlated.

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      • on August 12, 2015 at 6:00 pm Tusket

        @ pithom: “And I doubt Israel obedience and support for mass immigration is all that correlated.”

        Are you retarded? Neocons are the biggest supporters of Israel and frequently blow their load over increasing legal immigration as well.

        As for the rest of your retarded comment, it is observably true that eskimoes are the majority of communist heavyweights, were the founders and also that eskimoes push support for their own ‘country’. That they are two different groups of eskimoes doesn’t change the fact they are eskimoes. Its almost as if one side is a controlled opposition and idiots like you fall for it.

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      • on August 13, 2015 at 7:57 am Anonymous

        woulda ya just look at that schnoz

        just look at it

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      • on August 13, 2015 at 8:33 am Arbiter

        -Communists don’t tend to be very pro-Israel, you know? And pro-Israelists don’t tend to be very pro-Communist. And I doubt Israel obedience and support for mass immigration is all that correlated.

        First, learn the facts as I have before you mouth off. Learn the names and nature of the people who shaped communism. Don’t just guess and throw out reflexive defense.

        “Communists don’t tend to be very pro-Israel, you know?” What an idiot. You think that’s supposed to “prove” that Jews weren’t behind communism, even though Marx was a communist, the Frankfurt School were communists, almost every communist leader in Russia were communists? Even though communist leaders in Hungary, Romania, Germany etc were communists? Even though Jews themselves have admitted to this?

        Today there are non-Jewish communists who oppose Israel because they wrongly see it as an extension of “American imperialism”, instead of seeing how it is the Israeli lobby that controls Washington’s policy. So what? That just means that no one can control everything. But communists do not oppose the Jewish people, only some Israeli practices. Btw, in case you didn’t know, early Israel was heavily socialist. The “kibbutzim” for example were either religious or socialist to their nature, and these co-existed, as a symbol of world Jewry in general.

        It is beyond question that both communism and Zionism were Jewish creations. They were just different tactics. Zionist organizations were forbidden in the Soviet Union, but only because the Jewish leaders wanted their brethren to stay there and build their utopia on the backs of Russians instead of in the Middle East. It was a brotherly competition. Meanwhile, anti-Semitism was punished by DEATH in the Soviet Union. Because almost the entire leadership was Jewish. At least until Stalin started getting rid of some of them – while still keeping many Jews in high positions, however. Hell, he was married to one.

        ” And pro-Israelists don’t tend to be very pro-Communist. ”

        Funny. The Zionist neocons push socialism for the U.S. They push mass immigration which they know will give the Democrats permanent election victories. They don’t oppose Affirmative Discrimination, they don’t oppose the Big State or any other socialist policies, except they throw a bone to conservative dupes now and then – opposing abortion for example is safe since it doesn’t threaten socialist policies.

        “And I doubt Israel obedience and support for mass immigration is all that correlated.”

        As even some Jews have said, Jews in general combine their support for racial supremacism in an ever-expanding Israel with their support for mass immigration in the West.

        And their servants do the same. Bush, like the Jews around him, pushed for mass amnesty for illegal aliens in the U.S. and pushed for Turkish EU membership in order to swamp Europe in tens of millions of Turk immigrants. While supporting the supremacist Israel, where Christians are even forbidden from marrying Jews, and where any Jews in the world can immigrate because of their race, etc.

        Clinton, Obama, McCain, Romney, etc etc all support a supremacist Israel with money, arms and military and economic attacks on their targets – the few Middle Eastern nations that have opposed the Palestinian genocide. And all these stooges also support mass immigration in the West. But not to Israel. This is a mirror of what the Jews in National Review, The Weekly Standard, Politico, Slate, New York Times, Washington Post, CNN, FOX etc support, with only cosmetic differences.

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      • on August 13, 2015 at 10:04 am Publius 2015

        I personally don’t like the meme with Washington, because it implies that an Eskimo (Chosen not Frozen) could defeat Washington in a fair fight.

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      • on August 14, 2015 at 3:01 am Berzerker

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    • on August 12, 2015 at 1:22 pm mendozatorres

      And for some reason, black kids get ticketed more often. The horror!

      http://mckinneyblog.dallasnews.com/2015/08/mckinney-schools-police-punish-black-students-disproportionately-nonprofit-says.html/

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    • on August 12, 2015 at 1:39 pm anonymous

      every. single. time. http://www.rickperlstein.net/

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    • on August 12, 2015 at 3:17 pm corvinus333

      Which flag? I get a subscription required notice.

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      • on August 13, 2015 at 6:48 am Greg Eliot

        The POW/MIA flag, of all things.

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      • on August 13, 2015 at 8:42 am MZ

        perl(necklace)stain is getting his ass handed to him in the comments.

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      • on August 13, 2015 at 9:46 am Anonymous

        The POW / MIA flag? Is this really getting traction?

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    • on August 12, 2015 at 3:40 pm everybodyhatesscott

      Looks like it’s time to buy another flag. Maybe it’s all ginned up controversies by the flag manufacturers to take my money.

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    • on August 12, 2015 at 3:47 pm ‘Reality’ Doug

      Evolution here. I have no end game. I have no two a priori sides appointed from the beginning to exist until they die. Hollywood simplicity is not life. No posterity deserves or will get an a priori total victory. That would make them soft pussies. Yes, this is culture war against white men of the rank and file. Living by principles and more or less monotonically improved philosophy and culture is the best you can do, in socially relative as well as in personally absolute terms. No quality white person defines himself as not black. Let foolish black Americans define themselves as simply not white, which is a behavioral admission of no cooperative value to offer in trade. The hard lesson is that better people have advantages over the inferior people only if they know it and show it, which is why scientific seduction works. I never sleep. You will play or be played, forever. Natural selection unregulated by civilized patriarchy makes for strange bedfellows. Civilization requires jealous but rational patriarchy. What does not kill white patriarchy makes it stronger.

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    • on August 13, 2015 at 10:16 am mendozatorres

      Seems like Newsweek issued an apology, but mutherfucker says he still stands by his story. Everyone hates this prick. And he’s first in line.

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    • on August 14, 2015 at 1:24 pm Benny Hill

      “Perlstein” lol

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  6. on August 12, 2015 at 12:55 pm The Sly “Game Contradictions” Troll | Manosphere.com

    […] The Sly “Game Contradictions” Troll […]

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  7. on August 12, 2015 at 1:07 pm corvinus

    and then marry, if he wishes to marry, a younger woman.

    This. About 10 years younger.

    As to why it’s considered the norm to marry a woman the same age as you, I have a couple of ideas:

    1) Social pressure, especially from the women.
    2) Online dating, which has a stronger age-homogamy bias than IRL.
    3) Lack of game on the men’s part.

    Interestingly enough, apparently during the recession, the age at first marriage has gone up faster for men than for women, suggesting that women are more willing to consider marrying somewhat older men than they were before.

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    • on August 13, 2015 at 4:58 am Glenbert

      Looking into my own family history, this started with the baby boomers. All my grandfathers, great grandfathers and a few others I could find were 5-15 years older than their wives.

      It was in the 50s that they started marketing to “teenagers” and presenting them as mini adults. A powerful trope in their arsenal was that of teenage love. Hence the high school sweethearts trope was born. And it’s been generating time-bomb marriages ever since.

      My wife is 8 years younger than me. I remember feeling ashamed when we stated dating. Like I was too immature for a woman my own age. Until my grandfather pointed out to me how much younger my grandmother was (9 years). That’s what prompted me to do the research.

      I’ll be dammed.. THAT was the norm for marriage until the 60s. Thank God. I was just looking at pictures of my high school gf on fb; she looks like a scare crow today.

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    • on August 13, 2015 at 9:01 pm Canadian Friend

      The dating site Plenty of Fish about a year ago sent emails telling us we can no longer contact younger women. ( I do not remember where they set the limit , 10 years younger I think it was)

      I tried but I get a message telling me I should try women my own age.

      Anti white male sick ideologies – Leftism and its ugly cousin feminism – are everywhere now.

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      • on August 14, 2015 at 12:26 pm Hungry Hungry RINOs

        POF
        Pregnant
        OR
        Fat

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  8. on August 12, 2015 at 1:09 pm corvinus

    Interesting article here.

    Scrolling down to Figure 2, it seems that marital birth rates are actually going up among white women in their 20s, but the overall birth rate has gone down because so many fewer of them have gotten married. Among black and Hispanic women, a lot fewer of them are getting knocked up outside of marriage, but their marital birth rates are also going down.

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  9. on August 12, 2015 at 1:18 pm 10x10

    If you wanted to curb women’s promiscuity or women spending a significant portion of their youth in the Lover / R-Selected short time frame sexual market then society would need to be restructured. Here is where the debate comes in because you would have to junk today’s left-liberal welfare state democracies and replace them with… what? This is the libertarian vs Conservative vs Reactionary debate.

    As someone who likes many elements of libertarianism (minus open immigration) it seems to me that if there were no public schools or state colleges or state funded loan programs (Title 9), no welfare state, no “anti-discrimination” laws, no social security, no alimony, non-egalitarian property redistribution laws, reasonable child support laws, laws preventing a woman from getting child support from a man who is not her husband, no state funded or state mandated daycare laws, etc, etc; if we lived in a society that basically internalized self-responsibility, female mating patterns would be radically different.

    The liberal democracies welfare state paradigm we currently have incentivizes the alpha chasing behavior of today’s women and encourages them to spend their 20s chasing “feelz” instead of looking for a life partner. It also gives women economic power they would not have in a truly free market which would result, IMO, in the natural hierarchical dominance of men over women in pretty much all economic areas (but of course modern liberalism is philosophically opposed to hierarchy).

    That’s a libertarian themed view though. Many reactionaries and alt-right wingers probably just want a return to state mandated patriarchy; somewhere before the 20th century or even before the 19th. I don’t go that far the same way I am not into a neo-reactionary monarchy. But that is part of the political debate on the Right.

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    • on August 12, 2015 at 1:36 pm Greg Eliot

      Got any suggestions that don’t require putting an army of jinnis back into their respective bottles?

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      • on August 12, 2015 at 1:54 pm oink

        One can only pray and hope that God has allowed a time for respite; and “keep one’s powder dry”.

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      • on August 12, 2015 at 3:24 pm epochehusserl

        A very simplistic pro-male platform would be to get rid of the income tax and non “discrimination” laws – everything else is not as important. The major anti-income tax platform is the fairtax. As far as anti-discrimination laws in general – at least some people are getting fed up with them you would have to build many bridges to have a decent coalition.

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      • on August 12, 2015 at 3:27 pm Wrong Side of History

        Convert SWPL to Islam.

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      • on August 12, 2015 at 6:58 pm The Straw That Stirs the Drink

        The only thing we need is to revoke womens ability to vote. That’s it. Everything else will be reordered rationally from there.

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      • on August 13, 2015 at 9:37 am martin

        the two worst things are in my opinion divorce, which is de facto polygamy, and “anti-discrimination” laws that pressure people to hire more women which is a subsidy for them, especially considering many don’t adequately study anything material. Divorce will be impossible to restrict through the law because that would require a political process and the very naming of the “anti-discrimination” laws means one can’t undo them without being “pro-discrimination”. so greg is right to imply that all solutions are practically impossible. small movements that grow to have large followings, such as the manosphere are probably the best solution.

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      • on August 13, 2015 at 9:42 am martin

        i had this crazy idea the other day that might go far. wedding costs have risen and father’s are buying university diplomas for their daughters, or possibly losing all their savings in divorces. Your average girl will put off marrying for work and whether she means to or not make plenty of “mistakes” with men in the process, she may be able to afford her wedding by the time she is in her late twenties. So why don’t we start a wedding fund? If a woman can prove she is a good woman, and wants to get started having a family, and she is within a certain age range, we men fund it since her father has been removed from the equation. This could go a long way in rebuilding. We only fund women we approve of, no purple haired fatties.

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      • on August 13, 2015 at 11:51 am Publius 2015

        @ straw, you are right, of course, and just think how far away from impossible such a solution will be at this point, politically. Women are judges, lawyers (more than 50% of graduating classes today), and even Supreme Court Justices. If you are a younger lawyer today, you work among them, all full of themselves, not a clue about actual Anglo-Saxon common law or Constitutional law the way it is supposed to be. Not one sees any problem with our current society, even though it is obviously beyond madness at this point. If you go to some kind of networking event and try to make any statement that is pro-white family, pro-civilization, they will stomp their feet and literally run away. They will be in a group that includes at least one Eskimo (chosen not frozen). If she’s a shiksa beauty, her best friend and advisor will be an Eskimo.

        There is no way in hell that any man could run on a platform on any policy of taking away women’s right to vote, or to do the steps necessary to actually amend the written constitution — could not last one day trying to do that.

        It is too far gone, at this point. It is a pointless waste of time and energy to try to argue with a communist or a woman. Even women who think of themselves as “conservative” and vote Republican and watch (or even work for) Fox News don’t truly get it. They are not capable of understanding truth, reason, or honor. The women of Gen X who were lied to and robbed of their privilege of becoming mothers and grandmothers, who should be MORE pissed off than we men are (as many point out, we can game and have lots of sex for free with many women), at what was done to them, and should at this point start to get it and be on our side, are not.

        This proves it is a biological fact that only men create, build, and protect a nation. Again, nature always wins. Men must protect their nation from invading foreign tribes. The women will follow the alpha with the megaphone. For the last 50 years, the “alpha” (to women) has been the media culture, TV, that tells them to get multiple tattoos and piercings and ride the CC and be fire men and don’t have a husband or children or a family, or if you have kids, get a divorce cash out after 7 years.

        The white men of Europe and North American must take back our nations, and this time we must not be duped into killing each other, our brothers in arms, to save a hostile tribe that seeks to destroy us from within.

        Africa for the Africans. Japan for the Japanese. Israel for the Jews.

        Europe and North American for everyone else. Why?

        Women being allowed to vote is simply a symptom (and a weapon used by the communists); not the ultimate “cause” of the problem.

        There is only one solution. Our ancestors had to do in the late 18th century, too. It’s been 240 years.

        There is nothing new under the sun.

        http://www.thisblogisdangerous.com

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    • on August 12, 2015 at 2:44 pm Arbiter

      Many reactionaries and alt-right wingers probably just want a return to state mandated patriarchy; somewhere before the 20th century or even before the 19th. I don’t go that far the same way I am not into a neo-reactionary monarchy. But that is part of the political debate on the Right.

      Only among forum dwellers who never do any real activism. Those of us who have been actively involved in alt-Right politics think of how to spread information about the costs and crimes brought on by mass immigration first of all.

      Let me be clear: the libertarian-conservative conflict there is nonsense that only takes up time in forums. Everyone else understands that the struggle is about awakening and organizing the opposition to mass immigration. If mass immigration and those who cause it are defeated, then the state will be smaller. No need to have a whole armchair ideology about that part. If we cannot solve mass immigration, then nothing you say about big vs. small state makes any difference.

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      • on August 12, 2015 at 2:57 pm Greg

        Reactionaries aren’t interested in activism, cause it’s way too late for that. They’re more interested in rebuilding after collapse.

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      • on August 12, 2015 at 6:03 pm Cydonia 19.5

        ” No need to have a whole armchair ideology about that part. If we cannot solve mass immigration, then nothing you say about big vs. small state makes any difference. ”

        This is the one thing most of us here can agree with.

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      • on August 13, 2015 at 8:37 am Arbiter

        Reactionaries aren’t interested in activism, cause it’s way too late for that.

        It is not too late for UKIP. It is not too late for Front National, the Swedish Democrats, Vlaams Belang, Lega Nord, Jobbik, etc etc. These help give hope to people who grow up today, even if they can never gain a majority of seats in parliament. And they help threaten the establishment so they have to thread a little more carefully, lest they lose more seats at the trough. Without European nationalist parties we would be much worse off. Time for the U.S. to have something similar. You can’t just say “No, we can’t have everything, so we will do nothing.”

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      • on August 13, 2015 at 8:43 am PA

        Also, lack of political pressure from identitarian Right has allowed the Republican party to drift Left with the Democrats.

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    • on August 12, 2015 at 4:07 pm theasdgamer

      Throw in a man’s fundamental right to DNA test his alleged offspring and divorce his wife on that basis with no child support for them and I’ll sign on. Not an issue for me personally.

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  10. on August 12, 2015 at 1:26 pm larazablanca

    Off-topic: How should one respond to sassy girls who say kiddo in an attempt to take you down a peg?

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    • on August 12, 2015 at 1:32 pm Captain Obvious

      “Okay, old woman, what did you cook for my dinner tonight? Microwaved food? Again? That’s like 1500 days in a row.”

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    • on August 12, 2015 at 1:37 pm Greg Eliot

      Sipowicz salute – “I got your ‘kiddo’ right here”.

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      • on August 13, 2015 at 9:49 am Anonymous

        this.

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    • on August 12, 2015 at 1:41 pm annon

      agree and amplify; if she calls you kiddo, you call her grandma

      Her: Like your opinion matters, kiddo
      You: Thanks granny. Did you forget to take your pills?

      also another good response is no response, just a shit-eating grin. Unsettles em and you can’t be accused of “try hard” come back

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    • on August 12, 2015 at 2:00 pm anonymous

      You have to next her. Don’t even try to turn things around or use game, just radio silence and next.

      Alright grandpappy. Agree n amplify.
      I don’t want to get you pregnant. Aloof out of context.
      Your not by real mom.

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      • on August 12, 2015 at 2:46 pm mendozatorres

        “You’re not my real mom”

        +1….friggin’ hilarious!

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      • on August 12, 2015 at 3:42 pm Wrong Side of History

        ‘Alright grandma’ is funny, jerkboy, and deflating.

        [CH: definitely. keep it short and sweet.]

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    • on August 12, 2015 at 2:04 pm oink

      Would something sarcastic like “you can call your own spawn that … my bad … you don’t have any” work?

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    • on August 12, 2015 at 2:46 pm Arbiter

      That depends on in which tone and context she says it, doesn’t it? If she says it just jokingly then answer jokingly. “Okay, kiddo.” “Okay, girlo!” or whatever. Doesn’t have to be perfect. But if you hear that she simply isn’t into you, then move on.

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    • on August 12, 2015 at 2:59 pm Arbiter

      Pertaining to this, let me tell you about a first date I had with an attractive girl who was fun, energetic and liked to joke around at all times. We ended the date with a walk to her dorm building, where we sat down on a park bench. I started talking about a philosophical point, and as usual she was cracking a joke. At which point I said, “Wait, let me finish,” and then kept explaining what I meant. This date ended with making out on that park bench, and we kept dating.

      Much later she asked me, “Do you know why I went on a second date with you? It was because you told me to wait while you explained that thing.”

      She didn’t remember what it was I explained, it was too abstract. But it had been important enough for me that I would rather be considered rude by her, than to be silenced by her joking nature. And that’s what she respected. I guess that because of her looks other guys would always give in to her bubbly personality that overran serious discussion.

      At another date I found a pencil in my pocket and said, this pencil means luck. (I don’t remember the reason.)
      She said, let me see it. When I gave it to her she threw it in the grass next to the road with a giggle. I immediately stopped and picked it up, looking at her like you might look at a dog that had misbehaved. I suppose I should have demanded that she pick it up, but it was on my side of the road, right next to me. Anyway, I once again suspected that she got away with this kind of jokes with other guys. And she didn’t do it out of malice, she was just playful.

      You don’t have to put that much effort into having a firm personality, you just need to have certain principles. She also loved it when I held her down in bed, and said no other guy had done that to her. That was a cute girl, though a bit too melodramatic and unintellectual for me. She’s a doctor now, working in a lab in California, far away from me. Hope she’s doing all right.

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      • on August 12, 2015 at 3:21 pm mendozatorres

        Good stories. Better advice for how to handle such situations.

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      • on August 12, 2015 at 3:57 pm everybodyhatesscott

        I guess that because of her looks other guys would always give in to her bubbly personality that overran serious discussion.

        I’m dating a bubbly girl. She’s so pleasant to be around it’s tripping me up and making it difficult to not revert back to my beta ways. It’s triggering some deep protection instinct that hasn’t happened in a very long time.

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    • on August 12, 2015 at 3:46 pm Glengarry

      Auntie. “You look … fairly young … at a distance though.”

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    • on August 13, 2015 at 2:37 am driveallnight

      “Kiddo? Really?? My aunt who uses that word.”

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      • on August 13, 2015 at 2:39 am driveallnight

        Shit. Scratch “who”

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  11. on August 12, 2015 at 1:30 pm Big Dubya

    The practice of game for the purpose of strengthening a pre-existing marriage was covered in an outstanding guest post on this blog a few years ago by Dave from Hawaii. I’m having trouble finding the link.

    I use game principally by treating the wife like a cute, annoying little sister, who I truly love, but who deserves to be playfully teased and whose ideas are not to be taken seriously.

    I am a believing, practicing Catholic, and am therefore proscribed from using game to score some outside pussy. But let me assure you, gentlemen, it works just fine within a long, monogamous marriage (you’ll also get amazing mileage from a little playful, light flirting with other women in front of the wife)

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    • on August 13, 2015 at 12:42 am Rick

      Aloha

      https://heartiste.wordpress.com/2009/08/14/relationship-game-week-a-readers-journey/

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    • on August 13, 2015 at 12:18 pm ThirdMonkey

      When the sodomy-marriage ruling came out, I began joking with the wife that she get ready, because polygamy was coming soon, and suggested we start looking for a sister wife. I extolled all the benefits of plural marriage, to include her being the 1st wife and setting the bedroom and chore schedules, someone to watch the kids while she gets a pedicure, etc. The wife is very traditional and feminine, a stay-at-home with our four children, but she lacks one skill: she will cook or bake anything except she doesn’t like to make fried chicken. I came to the conclusion that I need a 25yr old redhead (my age/2 +7) who can make fried chicken and loves children: win-win for both of us. This playful banter went on for a few weeks until we went out for drinks and dinner for our anniversary. Our waitress was a hot 20-something redhead, and I just looked at my wife with a shit-eating grin. She came over to take our order, and before she could say anything, I took the waitress by the hand, looked deep into her eyes, and asked her, “Can you make fried chicken?” She answered, “No, but I can learn.” We had one drink, skipped dinner, and went straight home. It was…intense. And I’ve had fried chicken twice this month. I’m thinking of making the case for a 19yr old blonde who sews…

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  12. on August 12, 2015 at 1:32 pm martin

    I watched the speech of those two savages that were ceded the microphone at that sander’s campaign spot. it was brilliant. on the one hand, you have these idiots on stage that believe all white people are racist, and on the other hand you have the crowd, a far left group that has done everything it can to assert their higher moral status by claiming racism is everywhere and systemic. at one point she calls the crowd white racists and they become outraged and hostile. it’s funny because it was only a matter of time before these two groups of idiots got into a friendly-fire clash. Apparently calling a leftist a racist sends them to a fit.

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    • on August 13, 2015 at 9:17 pm Canadian Friend

      True.

      I also like the part where one black girl waving her hand menacingly in the face of the white man screams at the top of her lungs that she is being reasonable.

      In a sane society a woman behaving that savagely would be beaten up or at minimum tared and feathered.

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      • on August 14, 2015 at 9:26 am martin

        I think this is a very powerful weapon we have discovered. a quick search online shows some black people attacking bernie sanders for trying to control how progressivism looks…. at his own campaign event…. which is for his election… so in other words, it is racist to try to share your campaigns message at a campaign event. i say we jump on this, fan the flames. someone write a blog post about how bernie sanders is a racist and get it to go viral.

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  13. on August 12, 2015 at 1:40 pm oink

    Agree and amplify – saw Julien of RSD doing a very nice comeback on the “you’re an old man” shit test.

    [CH: link?]

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  14. on August 12, 2015 at 2:21 pm Arbiter

    The majority seems to abhor the fact modern women ride the proverbial “cock-carousel”, seemingly forgetting that no amount of game would be effective against uptight prudes who only ever do it after marriage, and only to procreate.

    Notice the False Choice rhetorical trick. It’s either no-sex-before-marriage prudes, or cock-carousel sluts.

    The truth: sex is part of dating. No one with a social life will need more explanation than that.

    Game is still a hallowed topic, not to be touched with a mortal hand, but it runs counter to the otherwise conservative leanings of the commenters. A stable family-unit, also much cherished around here, is mutually exclusive to widespread promiscuity exemplified by men who “game” women, and women who are willing to play along.

    Probably 99 percent of manosphere visitors will want to make a girl his girlfriend if he thinks she is girlfriend material, and marry her if he thinks she is marriage material. Very few would say “This girl would be great as a girlfriend, I feel strong affection for her, but I want to keep dating so I won’t see her anymore.”

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  15. on August 12, 2015 at 2:47 pm Big Jim

    Game actually works exceedingly well within the context of a marriage to secure the loyalty and obedience of your wife.

    I suspect that many of the tradcons (or whoever) who raise objections like the subject of this post favor traditional marriage and monogamy mostly in theory but aren’t actually very adept at achieving it for themselves.

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    • on August 13, 2015 at 8:46 am Arbiter

      That’s certainly true. There is even an entire forum dedicated to game in a marriage/relationship, and it’s particularly about how to make your wife work out and have a pleasant personality. I have forgotten the name though, which is too bad, I’d like to read it again.

      I suspect that many of the tradcons (or whoever) who raise objections like the subject of this post favor traditional marriage and monogamy mostly in theory but aren’t actually very adept at achieving it for themselves.

      YES. This is exactly what I think. That is true for a whole lot of nitpicking about game principles, by the way.

      So much of the criticism just assumes cynical extremes and black-and-white situations, which they wouldn’t think of if they had a real dating life and saw how there are always nuances.

      Like assuming that women who go to gyms are “sluts” who go there to pick up men. Which shows zero experience with gyms. But a lot more experience with porn videos.

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  16. on August 12, 2015 at 3:13 pm Big Jim

    What these “game contradictions” trolls miss is that game is incredibly useful, maybe essential, to maintaining the loyalty, faithfulness, and obedience of a woman in the context of a LTR or marriage. There’s a reason beta boys get dumped and cucked even after years of apparently happy marriage. Lack of game kills traditional marriage and family values.

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    • on August 12, 2015 at 7:54 pm Sentient

      Essential to being married. Do NOT think about marriage until you are fully evo-bio/psych – red pill aware and game fluent. Wan’t evidence? Well just look around at all the married guys you know…

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      • on August 12, 2015 at 8:31 pm Big Jim

        Oh I know; I was that guy at one point. Applying what I have learned here at CH has completely turned things around. Game saves marriages.

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    • on August 13, 2015 at 6:52 am Greg Eliot

      Amen… and amen.

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    • on August 13, 2015 at 7:00 am newlyaloof

      @Big Jim, “Game saves marriages.” Indeed, and even if it’s too late to save a marriage like mine probably is, game let’s you give less fucks about it and move on. Ex. Was getting groceries last night. Cute 19-20 year old cashier. Banging body, 8.5, but still cute too, not covered in whore makeup like some young girls these days. No thousand-yard stare. Girl that makes you think she’s one of the few good ones. Anyway, she says, “Hi how are you.” I say, “I’m excellent.” Then I say, “But instead of talking about boring stuff like has it been busy today or whatever, let’s try this. If you could go anywhere right now and had all the money in the world and the jet is ready to take you anywhere, where would you go?” She brightened up instantly and mentioned how she would love to go to Australia and how she always wanted to go. Of course, I know what’s she’s going to ask me, right? She asks me where I’d go. So game aware readers will probably know what I said. I said, “I’m going with you.” Heartiste talks about girls’ pupils changing when they are excited. I saw this girls eyes do this. Game is a trip. I yapped on a bit more with smirk and raised eyebrow with, “So what’s the first thing we’re gonna do when we get there?” Again, why did I say this? Because she’ll be thinking about the hotel fuck, even though she mentioned going to the beach and a safari. Long story short, I didn’t pull the trigger and ask for a number (yet), but I’m certain I can. Game saves lives, one happy moment at a time.

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    • on August 13, 2015 at 8:49 am Arbiter

      I remember a CH post where he picked apart a story in some webzine, where a guy listed the reasons his marriage had ended. And CH pointed out – and rightfully so – how he was wrong on almost every point. The guy sounded like he had been so supplicating that he must have made the woman’s skin crawl. And his solution was to be even more supplicating. He had also been way too comfortable in the marriage – such as keeping the bathroom door open when he took a dump. And because he did, she did too. There’s no going back from that. (That was about the only point that he got right.)

      If you say “I like my wife so much because I can be myself with her,” you’re probably slacking off. Which makes her slack off.

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  17. on August 12, 2015 at 4:10 pm The Sly “Game Contradictions” Troll | Reaction Times

    […] Source: Heartiste […]

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  18. on August 12, 2015 at 5:25 pm Hackett To Bits

    “The fact of biologically grounded sex differences which aren’t going anywhere means that cadding about is always going to be less psychologically, reproductively and emotionally expensive for men than slutting around will be for women…”

    As for the beta/gameless men, the ones who don’t know how to cad about:

    “…men are more “competitive”…meaning the loss of a woman they see as a good catch could be deeply felt for months or even years. The man will likely feel the loss deeply and for a very long period of time as it sinks in that he must start competing all over again to replace what he has lost – or worse still, come to the realisation that the loss is irreplaceable…”

    http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/love-sex/men-may-never-truly-get-over-a-relationship-breakup-says-study-10450413.html

    The survey goes through a lot of effort (participants, n = 5,705) to arrive at conclusions easily obtained from the PUAsphere.

    – Oneitis is bad and foolish. A sense of abundance is wise.

    – Women are interchangeable; no woman is irreplaceable.

    – Lack of game leads to negative feedback loops; learning some game leads to positive feedback loops.

    – Psychologically dominant men with women are not as often or deeply affected by breakups, and conversely, are often breakup instigators; psychologically retiring men with women perpetually suffer the receiving end of rejection.

    The article doesn’t go into it, but had the researchers indexed the participants for level of alphaness against level of emotional distress, and had the article reported on the distribution of results, they’d give their male readers a valuable clue about what they can do for themselves.

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  19. on August 12, 2015 at 5:41 pm Donohoe

    I like to see this blog as a virtual adaptation of “gangs of New York”

    CH is William Poole – The Butcher. Heh.

    “You see this knife? I’m going to teach you to speak English with this fucking knife”

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    • on August 12, 2015 at 8:29 pm Vagina dominator

      “Gangs of New York”. A real classic of obvious Jew propaganda. Note that it begins with a Black Mass (i.e., a sacrilegious mockery of a mass).

      Films and television are key tools in the propaganda scheme, which is in fact a scheme of mass hypnosis. Typically, you are first presented with sexualized and violent images, to excite your hindbrain. Once the hindbrain has control and your higher mental functions are turned off, suggestions are made to your unconscious. You will believe these dreams and suggestions and act on them.

      We all think we can see through or resist these suggestions but we can’t. We are not supermen. If you don’t want to be controlled, don’t watch their stuff.

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      • on August 13, 2015 at 8:55 am Arbiter

        Exactly. The American leader is a parody of a patriot, while the son of Irish immigrants is the wise hero who outsmarts him.

        We see the American leader even drape himself in the American flag and sit quietly in a chair just staring at Leonardo diCaprio for hours until Leonardo wakes up. Then he talks about something that Leonardo doesn’t care about – the point is that the leader is completely out of touch with how people see him.

        He is also cruel, throwing knives at the woman on stage and laughing when he almost hits her, playing to the audience.

        And when he dies he declares, “I’m so glad I’m dying as an American” to ridicule patriotic “fanatics” even more.

        Oh, and of course, in the beginning he says that it is a battle to see who will control New York: the immigrants or “we who were born here”. Which of course makes you think that “the Indians were there first, so they’re the ones who have the right to the land!”, and the leader is stupid for not realizing that he is wrong even by his own reasoning. The REAL argument would have been that it doesn’t matter “who was here first”, it matters who is BEST for the land. Who will put it to best use.

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      • on August 13, 2015 at 8:57 am Arbiter

        We all think we can see through or resist these suggestions but we can’t. We are not supermen. If you don’t want to be controlled, don’t watch their stuff.

        I can do that actually, I am completely impervious to their propaganda. Because every single scene I can meet with the information I have memorized. But I don’t think most people are like that. According to a historian who studied propaganda extensively and wrote a very good book about it, perhaps ten percent are not affected by propaganda and only become more offended the more propaganda they are exposed to. (And of those, I doubt that many can easily counter the propaganda with arguments of their own.)

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      • on August 13, 2015 at 10:13 am Carlos Danger

        You can Counter the obvious ideological Propaganda but less so the film techniques and editing techniques designed to push your thinking in a cetain direction used over and over again with subtlety. The brain washing techniques are very sophisticted These days. Look into MK Ultra and Monarch programming. The Bourne series of films is based on this programming and they really use it.

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      • on August 13, 2015 at 9:35 pm Canadian Friend

        I’m in that 10 %

        Not only am I not affected by that embedded propaganda but when the movie starts within minutes I know what will be used to try and brainwash us into believing some leftist crap.

        Yesterday the girl I’m seeing now and I watched a ( boring stupid ) movie called “the purge” and within about 5 minutes I knew there would be an anti-gun message, an anti-white message, an anti-USA message and that a black person at the end of the movie would save the day

        All of that happened, the most evil character in the movie was a white man with blonde hair who was very much a patriotic American and was also a bit religious.

        The moral of the story was more or less that guns and killing criminals does not solve anything as if the opposite was better; doing nothing and letting criminals do what they want and never using self defense.

        In the end a black man saved the day- the typical Hollywood noble savage who is nobler than any white man that ever lived.

        When I was younger of course I fell for some of it, but now I can smell it miles away. I am half watching the movie half analyzing the obvious ( to me ) propaganda. It is amusing how obvious it is in every movie or TV show or tv ad; they ALL contain some leftist propaganda be it anti male, anti white, anti heterosexual, anti-USA, anti-Christian, etc etc

        It is like watching puppets were the strings are clearly visible. It is now that obvious to me.

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    • on August 13, 2015 at 11:18 am Greg Eliot

      And then there’s the more obvious agitprop… like the goofy henchman of Bill’s, an Irish turncoat, by the way, that takes a “sky is falling” tone to run and tell the priest there’s “a n1gger in the church!!!!”, at which time we get a first-person view of the priest rearing back and decking the guy. lzozlzozlzozlzozlzozlozozlozlozlozlozl

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  20. on August 12, 2015 at 5:46 pm Irish Savant

    As an avid CH reader I must confess that a vague recognition of the internal contradictions that The Shrike refers to often crossed my mind.

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    • on August 12, 2015 at 8:04 pm The Other Anonymous

      Have faith in the invisible pimp hand of the patriarchy – let it guide you.

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  21. on August 12, 2015 at 8:26 pm Modern Primitive

    I kinda miss ZS and his make babies schtick.,

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    • on August 13, 2015 at 12:04 am corvinus

      He’s now Captain Obvious.

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      • on August 13, 2015 at 5:47 am Tilikum

        I don’t think ZS was ever as Jooooo! fixated as CO seems to be. That dude seems to wake up and put on his Joo hatin’ hat every morning like.

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      • on August 13, 2015 at 6:55 am Greg Eliot

        Well, it does pay to get an early start on a task at hand.

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      • on August 13, 2015 at 8:49 am mendozatorres

        Yeah, but it’s just not the same without “put a baby in her.” That’s what’s missing.

        haha

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      • on August 13, 2015 at 9:00 am Arbiter

        I don’t think ZS was ever as Jooooo! fixated as CO seems to be. That dude seems to wake up and put on his Joo hatin’ hat every morning like.

        Funny how the Tilikum shabbas goy keeps defending the precious Jews and never, ever learns any facts. And notice how he is always too scared to even WRITE the word Jew. He just can’t do it. It has been ingrained in him since he was a toddler that he is not allowed to even notice that Jews exist outside of Holocaust stories, and he still dutifully obeys his teachers from public school. He is a typical example of a cuckservative, incapable of thinking and too lazy to ever learn any facts.

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      • on August 13, 2015 at 2:30 pm corvinus333

        I believe the terms were “moar whyte babees” and “buns in her oven”. Captain Obvious indicated that at some point he was ordered to simmer down about it. But yeah, it was hilarious.

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  22. on August 12, 2015 at 8:29 pm itsjx

    Reblogged this on XWorkx.

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  23. on August 13, 2015 at 2:31 am The Spirit Within

    It turns out that Bill O’Reilly is in fact a wife beater. Whoda thunk. /sarcasm

    http://www.businessinsider.com/report-bill-oreilly-accused-of-physically-assaulting-his-ex-wife-2015-5

    He’s even filed a gag order on his own daughter. Whom he’s battling for custody.

    I’m beginning to think that EVERY grand public moralist is an even bigger hypocrite in private. Except for Billy Graham.

    [CH: o’reilly is a cuckservative. truth.]

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    • on August 13, 2015 at 4:04 am Kyo

      Because an allegation is totally the same thing as a guilty verdict.

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    • on August 13, 2015 at 5:45 am Tilikum

      Shit man, I wonder what she did!

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      • on August 13, 2015 at 9:01 am Arbiter

        No no tili, you must turn this into a story about how “anti-Semites” are wrong and Jews are great. Without daring to even type the word Jew, as usual.

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      • on August 13, 2015 at 7:28 pm Tilikum

        Not sure what third world Middle Eastern shithole you live in dude, but I maybe meet 4 self identified jews a year where I live.

        Bu the few nog’s in my neighborhood will rob you blind so you watch out for you know, an actual problem popultion.

        I guess I just can’t imagine your freakshow daily existence where The JOOOS! are your biggest issues and become this weird fixation.

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      • on August 13, 2015 at 10:00 am Publius 2015

        http://www.europeanguardian.com/84-uncategorised/defence/577-hungary-races-to-complete-its-border-fence-under-tighter-and-tighter-deadlines-as-migrant-numbers-swell-extraordinarily

        Real talk. All of Europe oppose the illegal migrants.

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    • on August 13, 2015 at 6:58 am Greg Eliot

      It wasn’t until very recently that giving wifey a bit of what-for when she stepped out of line was considered “immoral”.

      Strapon tells on him/herself again, both with the gossip and with the Freudian neener-neener ’bout how white folks are all degenerates behind their veneer of respectability..

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    • on August 13, 2015 at 10:52 am MZ

      Wow, breaking news from May 20th.

      Quote:

      “The psychologist also allegedly testified that the couple’s daughter told him that O’Reilly was never around to have a relationship with her for 11 years and that O’Reilly told him he sometimes had trouble with impatience..”

      Hmmm, sounds like she took the words right outta mommy’s mouth.

      Nice try Horshack.

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      • on August 13, 2015 at 11:11 am Greg Eliot

        “Trouble with impatience”… aw, geez… give ME the chair then.

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      • on August 13, 2015 at 11:15 am Greg Eliot

        Aren’t psychologists also bound to some sort of privacy oath?

        And who’s leaking all the testimony?

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    • on August 13, 2015 at 9:51 pm Canadian Friend

      The troll within,

      so you want to make white males who lean right look bad in the hope all white men who lean right will look bad?

      well here is a little something your leftist sources have swept under the carpet, to make sure you remain totally brainwashed ( which is easy with retards like you ).

      A woman grabbed a gun from a police officer and shot at him

      that woman was black

      that woman was a Democrat

      That woman is an Obama aide who worked in the White house

      Obama Aide Banned from the White House After She ‘Shoots at Her Cop Boyfriend with His Own Gun’,

      http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3192914/White-House-staffer-Barvetta-Singletary-arrested-firing-boyfriend-gun.html

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  24. on August 13, 2015 at 3:42 am TAnon

    Game will appear to sometimes condradict itself to those who still view the sexes (and probably other things too) through an equalist lens.

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  25. on August 13, 2015 at 5:24 am King James Version

    BBC has finally reported what we knew all along: the knife-wielding murderer at IKEA was an Eritrean asylum-seeker. Apparently, his deportation was imminent (ya right like those pussies would ever deport someone).

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    • on August 13, 2015 at 5:27 am King James Version

      Ps: (from bbc):

      “Local officials feared a backlash from “dark forces” who wanted to exploit the case, police chief Per Agren said”

      Fuck those swedes, they deserve it.

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  26. on August 13, 2015 at 6:10 am tspark from mobile

    “DicPic Gamers” bewarehttp://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-33889225

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    • on August 13, 2015 at 10:34 am AW

      “The victim received two pictures of an unknown man’s penis on her phone via Apple’s Airdrop sharing function”

      Oh boy…. Can you describe it exactly?

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  27. on August 13, 2015 at 8:14 am Flames

    So there’s this HB8/9 at work. I walk on the dept and go to pickup some stuff. She happens to be standing where I needed to go and she says.

    “What do you want?

    I say “Nothing, from you” I smile and look at her and she walks off repeating what I just said over and over. I collect my items and leave.

    What would You do?

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    • on August 13, 2015 at 8:18 am PA

      “Nothing from you” is perfectly fine if the tone and congruence are right. In fact, almost any random words will do given. You could have said “everlasting love” or “chipmunks” “or “who needs to know?” if you said them congruently.

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    • on August 13, 2015 at 9:04 am Arbiter

      That’s a pretty good line. But really, I have rarely come up with those perfect zingers people look for, but like PA says it doesn’t have to be perfect.

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    • on August 13, 2015 at 9:52 am 7darktriad3

      ‘Nothing from you me lover’ in your best pirate’s accent goes down well.

      But if you really want to get that gush…
      ‘I have a 9 inch meat platter, know somewhere I can put it?’ in the straightest face you can pull off with strong eyes

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    • on August 13, 2015 at 10:00 am ER

      Shoot her.

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    • on August 13, 2015 at 10:29 am Sentient

      Her:”what do you want?”

      You: “That’s your best line? No wonder you’re single”… smile… roll off…

      Keep it in your pocket. Comes in handy.

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      • on August 13, 2015 at 11:08 am mendozatorres

        Nice.

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      • on August 13, 2015 at 12:39 pm theasdgamer

        “You feel psychic. Try reading my mind.” [smirk, hold gaze for three secs, roll off]

        Reopen. “You ARE psychic. I read your mind, you perv.” [faux shocked expression…smirk, hold gaze, qualify, etc.]

        Another tool in the toolbox.

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  28. on August 13, 2015 at 9:15 am Lew

    CH has more than enough influence to attract sophisticated trolls. While feigning a degree of friendliness, this form of troll operates by subtly planting false premises into the comments.

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    • on August 13, 2015 at 11:13 am Greg Eliot

      Just noticed that, did ya?

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      • on August 13, 2015 at 1:40 pm Lew

        I’m not a daily reader here.

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      • on August 13, 2015 at 7:32 pm Greg Eliot

        Not a daily reader?

        Get with the program, man!

        A day without the chateau is like, well… night.

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  29. on August 13, 2015 at 10:14 am chris

    New COPROP idea:

    Whenever someone says double standard, correct them and call it the sexual dimorphism. This will always instantly force them into an evo-bio frame/schema.

    [CH: another commenter once suggested to use “different standard” rather than “double standard”, as it is more value-neutral and sex-specific. but i like your suggestion too, except that most americans won’t know what “dimorphism” means.]

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    • on August 14, 2015 at 11:25 am chris

      That gives you a chance to explain it to them and propagate evo-bio ideology.

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  30. on August 13, 2015 at 11:32 am Odysseus

    Was it merely trolling? Maybe. But I think we should welcome these criticisms and the chance to answer/rebut them. Makes our belief system all the stronger.

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    • on August 13, 2015 at 11:41 am Greg Eliot

      There’s a fine line between answering HONEST criticism, which requires time and an assumption that the response will be taken to heart by the critic… and wasting time on obvious snark trolls and shills whose purpose is merely to distract and derail.

      Cyberia being what it is, best to err on the side of drive-by mockery and disdain. Life’s too short to waste time giving disingenuous Cathedralists the satisfaction of rational debate. 😉

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    • on August 13, 2015 at 9:06 pm David

      Get enough of them and it lowers the truth level in the conversation and confuses men who are looking for guidance.

      This trolling is quite persistent and rather clever. It’s clearly intentional and the intention is to keep beta males beta-ing.

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      • on August 13, 2015 at 10:18 pm Canadian Friend

        In my arrogantly often right opinion,The Shrike (who does seem to be a troll) sounds like a college or university educated leftist familiar with the Alinsky rules, the writing style is also very much college/university style stuff. He might even be a professor.

        He could also be some kind of “professional” who is paid to do this by some obscure leftist group. ( they do exist, Google it )

        He sounds very much like someone familiar with Alinsky’s rules and his writing style suggest this is what he is using in that comment that CH dissected.

        … … …

        Part of Alinsky’s rules for Radicals,

        #3

        Look for ways to increase insecurity, anxiety and uncertainty. (This happens all the time. Watch how many organizations under attack are blind-sided by seemingly irrelevant arguments that they are
        then forced to address.)

        #4

        “Make the enemy live up to its own book of rules.” […]no one can possibly obey all of their own rules. (This is a serious rule. The besieged entity’s very credibility and reputation is at stake, because if activists catch it lying or not living up to its commitments, they can continue to chip away at the damage.)

        #12

        Go after people and not institutions; people hurt faster than institutions.

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  31. on August 13, 2015 at 11:59 am Cheese and Crackers

    What do you guys think of this whole thing with Rhonda Rousey. Do people actually think she’s hot, or is this just some sort of attempt to legitimize the idea that really nasty butch women can be objects of lust?

    [CH: roided up musclewoman duking it out in a ring is a clear sign of civilizational decline. the circus around rousey is just more confirmation of that fact.]

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  32. on August 13, 2015 at 12:17 pm Publius 2015

    When Joel STEIN wants to illustrate a stupid American, of course he uses a pretty, red haired, fair skinned white girl. Yep, this poor girl who is fed nothing but garbage by Disney, her school, and youtube her entire life — she’s the dumb one and the problem.

    http://time.com/247/millennials-the-me-me-me-generation/

    This girl who would make a great mother and grandmother and wife if her white men would stand up and take back her nation (she neeeeds us to do that), she’s the problem, not dindus like the ones who posted the gunpoint BJ that got CH banned from twitter.

    If white men are not awake at this point, there is no hope.

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    • on August 13, 2015 at 12:18 pm Publius 2015

      this same joel STEIN thinks striving to be masculine is “stupid”

      lzozlzozlzzlzoz

      http://www.amazon.com/Man-Made-Stupid-Quest-Masculinity/dp/0446573124/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1344451215&sr=8-1&keywords=man+made+joel+stein

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  33. on August 13, 2015 at 12:26 pm mendozatorres

    OT–crashed and burned on an approach about two hours ago with a nice looking older looking gal that I know from somewhere, but specific memory escapes me. Body is on point. She gave a twice over while standing in line at Starbucks. I was right behind her when she left and knew I should have said something by then.

    Anyways, can you help a guy out with a few ice breakers of any kind? I’m sure had I been confident earlier in my approach, things would have been better. On the plus, at least I gave it a shot and honestly, I was laughing at myself afterwards at both the lame attempt and that I did “something” rather than doing nothing.

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    • on August 13, 2015 at 12:46 pm Sentient

      seriously the best is “Hey…” Don’t bother trying to find the perfect line, yeah it’s great if you can, but if you are searching in that few seconds before acting, just go with “Hey..” and then something conversational. That’s it. Better to act, even if not optimal, than do nothing.

      You:”Hey”
      Her:”Hi”
      You:”You know what’s great about coffee?”
      Her:”What?”
      You:”Everything?”
      Her:”Ha Ha, I know”
      You”So…”

      Go back in line and try again.

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      • on August 13, 2015 at 12:47 pm Sentient

        You:”Everything.” – no ?…

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      • on August 13, 2015 at 12:53 pm Sentient

        GLL Nervous Guy Game

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      • on August 13, 2015 at 1:00 pm mendozatorres

        Thanks, Sentient. Yeah, the simple “Hey” would have done the trick. I’m usually good after the initial “intros.”

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      • on August 13, 2015 at 1:17 pm Sentient

        Exactly – the so is the pivot point – you can do a lot off of that – neg, tease, opinion, rare compliment etc etc.

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  34. on August 13, 2015 at 1:04 pm Publius 2015

    Those who control the media and culture, whoever they are, while aggressively promoting miscegenation and immivasion, still (correctly) promote this as the ultimate in beauty:

    Why?

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    • on August 13, 2015 at 2:32 pm corvinus333

      Availability. They do more than their fair share of promoting mystery meat models, have nonwhites representing European countries in Miss Universe, etc.

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    • on August 13, 2015 at 6:22 pm Publius 2015

      good lord that ass.

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    • on August 13, 2015 at 8:46 pm Colonel Trautman

      http://pedestal.turbosquid.com/3d-Models/3ds/max/xsi/c4d/obj

      I’m done with ranking women by some color palette myself. More into measurements.

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  35. on August 14, 2015 at 1:39 am JR

    Heartiste, what is your personal view on having kids? Do you plan to be a father (if you aren’t already)

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  36. on August 15, 2015 at 3:41 am th0ughtp0lice

    Much to be said on the “sluts are good because sex/ sluts are bad because they’re not in keeping with traditional conservative values paradox:

    1. To say that mate pairing (ie. marriage) is a “traditional conservative value” is, for one, a massive Strawman. Paleolithic farmers did not consider themselves “traditional conservative”. Nor do swans.

    Mate pairing is biologically hardwired (with a little bit of strange for good measure). So to say that sluts are bad for traditional conservatism is false. Sluts are bad for our biological hard wiring. Hence why no-one likes sluts. Men don’t like slutty women. Women don’t like slutty men either (something that’s never concern trolled quite so much over at **Jezebel quite like it’s concerned trolled in the manosphere)

    **I’ve tried concern trolling Jezebel with this: “So why is it okay to be slutty and sex positive gurrls, but then why do you hate male sluttiness, masculinity and sexuality – why you so mean??”

    Hamster hamster.

    2. CH rightly points out that the causal chain follows i. pill ii. feminism iii. sluts iv. then PUA’s.

    ie. we are reacting to sluts. we did not create them.

    3. Most PUA’s would happily pair-bond (ie. marry) if the causal chain above did not happen. The Alpha’s would still get their strange. Their wives would be happy instead of being stuck in a perpetual state of malaise and discontent because feminism tells them that they are wasting their wombs and that they should all be off eat-pray-queefing somewhere.

    Again we did not create that. Hence sluts are bad / sluts are good.

    4. It’s okay that sluts are bad and that sluts are good. It changes nothing. Game or no game, men are in this situation. We need some way of dealing with it.

    4. Demand and supply: Something that’s always missing from these sluts are good / sluts are bad is demand and supply:
    Supply and demand of pussy is still the same. There is still one pussy for every dick.
    What’s changed is inflation: historically women would require one dick every marriage or two, now they require one dick every week or two. And men therefore require one pussy every week or two also.
    There has been no decrease in the supply of pussy; yet its value has gone up. It should, given its uselessness (no baby, no long term commitment, eat-pray-queefery) go down. Similarly, there has been no increase in the supply of dick, yet, historically speaking, dick’s value is bargain basement.

    This, i feel, cuts to the core of what irks so many in the Manosphere. I think we all understand and know hypergamy. This is a biological fact which we’ve been dealing with (pretty well) for the last 200,000 years or so. What we cannot seem to grasp is the jumped up prices in a worn down neighborhood.

    Pussy is literally inflated. Dick is literally deflated. Hence game: We must peacock like a mutherfucker, inflate our value, deflate theirs.

    None of that is condradictory to the “sluts are bad / sluts are good” dichotomy.
    Sluts are bad. Sluts are good.

    CH talked of a player’s paradise a couple weeks ago. And most, including myself, agreed with him. It is a players paradise alright, but it’s also a man’s dystopia at times.

    Again, we did not create that. We game it as best we can.

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  37. on August 15, 2015 at 5:30 am th0ughtp0lice

    I feel the whole “sluts are good / sluts are bad” paradox or the “should we be noble or should we not” is very very… meta. (i hate that word but here it makes sense)

    It’s trying to force an ideologically-absolute stance on something that’s incredibly intimate. Again, feminism was the first to try this, not PUA’s.

    You could argue that the Church got there before feminism with their formalized pair bonding, but biology made formalized pair bonding, well, a formality.

    Prior to Judeo Christian values, pair bonding probably looked quite the same as it did for the last 2000 years. Cept, in certain instances, with more wives.

    I’d happily go back to that and take my chances with 1. my ability to provide and 2. hypergamy. If i’d failed, I would’ve failed honestly (evolutionarily speaking). That other guy with all those wives, he would’ve earned them. (I might have invented calculus or something without wifey clipping at my heels.)

    Where Trolly Wolly said:

    Ultimately, there is a choice (really a choice?) to be made [by men, to…] either champion a virtuous society […] or support the cad lifestyle.

    That is crying out for a reframe (thanks CH)…

    ultimately feminism has a choice to either champion a virtuous society (similar to the sort of society we’ve created together over the last 10,000 years) or to champion a feminist society.

    We already know what feminism’s answer to this will be. “Who cares what de Menz want. Who even cares what Women want – I’m going to die alone; Civilization’s going down with me”

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