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Doombringer Thought Of The Day: Is The Evolution Of Human Intelligence Self-Limiting?

August 19, 2015 by CH

There’s a theory floating around alt-blogs that human IQ in the developed world has been steadily decreasing since about the dawn of agriculture. The working hypothesis is that agriculture enabled dense urban life to develop, and cities are known population sinks (lack of space/high cost/disease vectors all contribute to lower fertility rates in cities).

The thinking goes that cities attract smarter people, who upon settling into urban mimosavilles promptly forget the Darwinian Prime Directive and fail to reproduce themselves in sufficient numbers. 1.5 sprog per hipster village yenta is a recipe for extinction. (Which is not necessarily a bad thing.)

I don’t know if I buy this theory of decreasing IQ in total, but if true, I can suggest another plausible mechanism that is far more pertinent today, now that disease threat and high child mortality have largely been eliminated. This mechanism is far darker than disease or child mortality, once you get to peering at it closely in your skull ham.

You could call this the CH-ian “The Pill, The Rubber, and Abortion, Oh My!” theory of dysgenia.

The speculative specs: Evolution has slowly, and sometimes quickly, produced human populations with great intelligence (on average). As these population groups gained smarts, they reconfigured their environment so powerfully that their cultures began to exert more influence than the natural world did on how their progeny would evolve.

Gene-culture co-evolution became the order of the day. Civilization sprouted and flourished. And it was good. Until…

These groups of humans became so smart that they outwitted — for a time — the second evolutionary guiding principle of reproduction. They invented Pills and Rubbers and safe and cheap Abortions, thus allowing themselves the joy of sex without the joylessness of changing diapers.

Smarter people, having by their inherent mental dispositions a lower threshold for the tedious and boring tasks of infant care, stopped having so many babies. But smarter people USED to have more babies than dumber people! What happened since then? Well, when pre-20th Century smart people had sex — which they never found boring — they were often stuck with the consequences. Most of them simply accepted the boredom of child-rearing as a necessary component of life.

Once the Era of The Pill, Rubber, and Abortion began in earnest, smart people saw the wisdom, from their own personal hedonistic perspectives, of using these smarthuman-created tools to separate the consequences of boring child-rearing from the titillation of sex. End result: Fewer smarties having kids, more dummies taking up the slack, dysgenia in full black lotus bloom.

For the first time, perhaps, on a large scale, humans had made an end run around a Darwinian First Principle. Humans — some humans, anyway — had become TOO SMART and invented pregnancy-thwarting tech that also thwarted the cosmic, and divine, imperatives. The Pill, The Rubber, and Abortion may be making us dumber!

Hard double-blind, metabolically-controlled ¡SCIENCE! evidence for this “PRA” theory is sparse and mostly circumstantial, but it is out there. For instance, in a study of German parents, having a child lowered their happiness more than any other life change, including death of a spouse!

And of course there are the oft-cited stats of later age of first marriage and lowered fertility plaguing almost the entire Pan Western developed world.

There are countercurrents pushing against the PRA theory of dumbing down humanity. The Pill seems to alter women’s sexual preferences so strongly that they choose less masculine beta males as partners if they were on the Pill during the time of choosing. This would imply that these women would have more kids, Pill-disposed as they are to settling into family life with a beta provider. However, it could conceivably run the other way: Once married and thinking about having kids, women who get off the Pill might suddenly become repulsed by their babyfatted betahubbies as their ovulatory machine revs up again after a hiatus of many years. This could lead to an increase in divorce (which in fact has been happening throughout the West since the 1960s) and consequently a decrease in children (or a decrease in children born in wedlock).

Is the evolution of human intelligence self-limiting? If it is, will societies respond by banning the Pill, the Rubber, and the Abortion? Or will we just have to ride this one out for a few millennia, until the fitness maximizer pendulum swings back to the smart set? Either way, going on the way the West is going now, something’s gonna give.

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  1. on August 19, 2015 at 2:29 pm greginaurora

    As a corollary, dumb people would have had a more difficult time in the past bringing their children to adulthood. Cheap food and medicine mean more dummies (who are also having children) raising children that would otherwise have died in their youth.

    So, smart people not having enough children, and dumb people raising children that should have died.

    Equality!

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    • on August 19, 2015 at 2:59 pm askjoe

      good point, we’ve flipped the script.

      Also, as one party realizes that it’s just easier to import 3rd world savages as new voters, the demands of the electorate for basic civil structure goes down, things like fair contracts, police who don’t shoot dogs, schools where grades reflect aptitude…things like that. Free votes destroy civilizations

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    • on August 19, 2015 at 4:54 pm corvinus333

      Africa is an entire continent of proof.

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      • on August 20, 2015 at 1:44 am Ripp

        Yup.

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    • on August 19, 2015 at 5:53 pm James1

      The whole point of Obamacare is generic care for the cattle by 3d world mechanic type ‘doctors.’ Thanks Cuckservative Chief Justice. More ‘wise Latinas’ will unfortunately be kept alive.

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      • on August 20, 2015 at 8:35 am Captain Obvious

        Except Ms Wise Latina has probably the highest IQ of any female [with some “native” mestizo/melungeon admixture] who has ever emerged from Puerto Rico – maybe up around IQ 115 to 120 [roughly where Barry Soebarkah is at] – and she has all of precisely ZERO children herself.

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      • on August 20, 2015 at 9:13 am Captain Obvious

        CH: “Smarter people, having by their inherent mental dispositions a lower threshold for the tedious and boring tasks of infant care, stopped having so many babies.” ——— And don’t forget that [up to a point – leaving out the criminality of the Nog Dindus] high-IQ children are VASTLY MORE DIFFICULT to raise than are low-IQ children. High-IQ toddlers get into EVERYTHING, and they do it ALL DAY LONG – sunrise to sunset, and on towards midnight if you don’t force them to go to sleep. Also, High-IQ kids get bored with children’s games and children’s books at a rate exponentially faster than do Low-IQ kids. E.g. “Okay, we already read “Brown Bear Brown Bear”, that’s boring, what’s next, Mom?” It never stops with the High-IQ kids. IT JUST NEVER STOPS.

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    • on August 20, 2015 at 1:11 am mkkby

      Within 100 years the world will run low enough on oil and metals that they will be very expensive. I tell friends, if you want to build a jumbo jet you’ll have to send 1000 mexicans to the dump to gather a million aluminum cans. At that point food production will severely reduce the population.

      Idiocracy is wrong in one way. No matter how dumb the population gets, there will always be a few super smart outliers who will know how to read books and get things done. At some point I predict a reversal. A group of genius’s will take over and be the survivors of a much more rugged world. They’ll probably make slaves of the idiots, who by then will be more like animals than humans.

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      • on August 20, 2015 at 8:04 am Arbiter

        Within 100 years the world will run low enough on oil and metals that they will be very expensive.

        That’s what the Left loves to say, but read up on the actual numbers. It would take many, many centuries to use up all the iron in the enormous planet we live on – and consider how far our technology and science have come in just a century and a half of electricity. I wouldn’t worry about it. We have only scratched the earth’s surface – literally, in fact. Look at a picture of the earth split through like an apple and see an illustration of how far down we have dug. We haven’t. We have just scratched the surface.

        Same with oil. We take the oil closest to the surface, naturally. Hell, even if all he oil wells in the world would stop producing right now we’d have oil for more than a century left, and all indications are that we have much, much more oil. On top of that there is oil mixed with mud that can be refined – and there are three times more of this oil than pure oil.

        Plus, do you really believe that oil comes from dinosaurs dying, and instead of being eaten by animals and insects they somehow sank into the earth and became massive oil supplies? That is merely an assumption. There is another theory, that oil is a primordial goo perpetually created close to the earth’s core and then pressed up to the surface. The traces of cells in the oil would come not from dinosaurs but from the life forms in the earth that the oil picks up on the way. We have seen how oil wells have been refilled from below when they were thought to be almost dry. At the very least it is a sign that there is oil farther down, which he haven’t drilled for yet.

        The Left said in the 1950s that minerals would soon be gone. They made up an exact timeline – magnesium would be gone this year, copper would be gone that year, etc. Anyone who disagreed was a lying capitalist. They also said there would be massive rain, and exploding nuclear power plants all over the globe. All to demonize the West for inventing technology, and to prace the non-Whites for “choosing to live in harmony with nature” instead of simply being incapable of even inventing the wheel.

        Trust me on the minerals. I am very familiar with the drilling that is improved all the time. There is just no chance in hell that we’d run out of minerals for many, many centuries. And we can use the minerals we have already used. And that far into the future, well, there’s the asteroid belt. But the coming couple of centuries? No problem at all.

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      • on August 20, 2015 at 8:46 am JohnDSee

        @mkkby
        Are you retarded? Assuming that oil is the last source of fuel and that all metals and metal ore will be gone? Maybe if they used all the oil to produce the necessary fuels to shoot all the ore and existing metals into the sun. I’m using plain language for YOU, lest you misunderstand.

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    • on August 20, 2015 at 9:17 am da GBFM lzzzzzzzlzlz (TM)

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    • on August 20, 2015 at 9:53 am da GBFM lzzzzzzzlzlz (TM)

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  2. on August 19, 2015 at 2:29 pm pyrrhus

    Profs Bruce Charlton and Michael Woodley have developed a lot of evidence that intelligence in the West peaked with children born around 1800, and has been declining with the onset of the Welfare State and rapid population growth. Essentially, the Malthusian world prevented a buildup of negative mutations and systematically eliminated the dumbest, most violent part of the population. That process reversed about 200 years ago, and they estimate that average IQ has dropped at least 20 points since then.
    See also the Mouse Utopia experiment.

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    • on August 20, 2015 at 1:24 am Amasius

      In his book “Human Accomplishment” Charles Murray quotes Arthur Gobineau: “I never supposed that I can tell people ‘you are in a state of complete decadence, your civilization is a swamp, your intelligence a smoldering lamp, you are halfway to the grave,’ without expecting some opposition”

      Gobineau was writing in 1853.

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  3. on August 19, 2015 at 2:40 pm Doombringer Thought Of The Day: Is The Evolution Of Human Intelligence Self-Limiting? | Neoreactive

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  4. on August 19, 2015 at 2:40 pm DN Poolside

    thanks to the rigid class structure in Europe pre WW1, humanity also had the benefit of intelligence in all social strata. There were enough smart people in the low classes to advocate the merits of normal, constructive behavior amongst their social equals. they were smart enough to see the benefits and had the street cred to be listened to. Religion helped too. Now it’s just segregated ghettos of honey boo-boos racing to the furthest reaches of dysgenic behavior

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    • on August 20, 2015 at 8:07 am Arbiter

      Religion helped? For centuries the Cath organization sapped Whites of intelligent men by making them celibate monks. Imagine what a brain drain that was. Martin Luther, the Great Reformator, did Europe a great service when he stood up against the many insanities that emanated from the eunuchs in Rome.

      Like a Japanese nobleman said, regarding the Cath missionaries in Japan and what they said about the vile Protestants – to the Japanese it was obvious that Martin Luther and those who followed him simply must have wanted to marry, a reasonable demand.

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  5. on August 19, 2015 at 2:49 pm Webe

    Actually there is serious academic work on the subject: there is no intelligence gene, but human intelligence is an interplay of many genetic factors. It must have taken a very challenging environment to fine tune all of these factors, since intelligence decreases easily with a little less tuning. After the advent of agriculture evolutionary forces started selecting much more for epidemiological factors than the survival ingenuity that had marked the previous (very long) period.
    There also seems some objective (physiological) evidence for decreasing intelligence. [Sorry, but I don’t remember any names or links]

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    • on August 19, 2015 at 3:12 pm Arbiter

      But consider when people had eight children and only two survived. And in harsh winters you had to decide which children should be fed. This severe process must have been affected by all possible factors, including which kids were the smartest. Who would you give the last porridge to in December, the dunce or the clever one?

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      • on August 19, 2015 at 3:22 pm everybodyhatesscott

        Wasn’t disease the thing that probably killed those six children. I’d also guess in those times, the big strong kid who could fight would get the food before the clever one.

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      • on August 19, 2015 at 4:03 pm Arbiter

        Disease? That and hunger.

        What makes you think the strong kid and the intelligent kid wouldn’t be the same? Good genes travel in packs. I also doubt that any kid would be much stronger than his siblings, that seems to be basically the same among brothers. Anyway. All traits would have to be considered.

        This is not an extreme example: even in Britain in 1900, the most advanced country in the world at that time, only one out of three children survived. The loss of children was enormous for most of our history. Clearly only the best of the best would be saved. So intelligence would be favored along with health.

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  6. on August 19, 2015 at 2:55 pm Doombringer Thought Of The Day: Is The Evolution Of Human Intelligence Self-Limiting? | Manosphere.com

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  7. on August 19, 2015 at 3:01 pm Fartiste

    Can confirm the part about going off the pill. Started dating the ex when she was on the pill. After being together three years she decided to go off. She started chasing alphas she’d previously banged. Cheated on me within 3 months of going off.

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    • on August 19, 2015 at 3:06 pm yeahokcool

      might be slightly more complicated than that, fartiste…

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      • on August 19, 2015 at 3:16 pm Sean Fielding

        He implicitly acknowledges the main complication.

        Fartiste: did you dump her or did she dump you? And how long after you found out she cheated did the dumping occur?

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      • on August 19, 2015 at 3:31 pm yeahokcool

        @sean. a woman cheating on you, strictly speaking, is not CAUSED by her going off the pill. i reject the proposition that the “pill” is responsible one way or the other for her infidelity. i’ve stated before that if your woman cheats, it is primarily YOUR FAULT.

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      • on August 19, 2015 at 5:49 pm corvinus333

        i’ve stated before that if your woman cheats, it is primarily YOUR FAULT.

        @yeahokcool

        Problem is, if the relationship started in the first place because Fartiste was a beta male and she was on the Pill, it’s more complicated than that.

        I’d say it’s the Pill’s fault. Ban the piece of sh!t.

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      • on August 19, 2015 at 9:03 pm Steeve

        The woman cheats and it’s the man’s fault? As if the woman was some kind of animal out of control with zero free will. Jesus Christ.

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      • on August 19, 2015 at 9:48 pm yeahokcool

        @steve. that’s more or less the way it is, though, partner. if your shit is right, your girl won’t cheat, pill or not. and, if you ain’t right, you’re, well, you must be wrong. let me diagnosis your problem by quoting marlo from hbo’s the wire: “you want it to be one way… but it’s the other way.” embrace life and women as they actually are and act accordingly.

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      • on August 20, 2015 at 8:30 am farmlegend

        “that’s more or less the way it is, though, partner. if your shit is right, your girl won’t cheat, pill or not. and, if you ain’t right, you’re, well, you must be wrong.”

        yeahokcool, while you may be on the money in fartiste’s circumstance, your remark commits a bit of the logical fallacy of sweeping generalization. No matter how airtight one’s game, there’s always a bigger alpha and a weak moment out there.

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      • on August 20, 2015 at 8:37 am askjoe

        also, just saying, before the wedding, your average guy’s gonna be pretty much in mega-beta mode, eh?

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      • on August 20, 2015 at 8:48 am Captain Obvious

        > “The woman cheats and it’s the man’s fault?” ——— Yep. Welcome to the reality of Hypergamy. If you aren’t prepared to stare into the Abyss, and ponder the spine-chilling horrors lurking therein, then exit the Dark Enlightenment and the Manosphere, and return to swallowing WTFE intellectual prozac du jour that the Eskimo Psychiatrists are serving up to you at National Cuckview and the Cuckly Standard and the Cux News Channel.

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      • on August 20, 2015 at 9:19 am Captain Obvious

        We used to have a culture which protected our womynz from their innate Hypergamy. It was called “Western Civilization”. But of course the Eskimo Psychiatrists moved in and obliterated all of that, and now we have no culture whatsoever, only a prevailing Anti-Culture of nihilism and despair and hopelessness and of course the Eskimo-Psychiatrist-Approved “OMG Gina Tinglezzzlolzzz for Tom Brady You Go Grrrlllll”!

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    • on August 19, 2015 at 3:10 pm Arbiter

      Or she had planned a life change that included both going off the pill and chasing alphas, but she only told you about the first part.

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    • on August 19, 2015 at 3:10 pm askjoe

      seen it, 3 months. Recent wedding was hooo-boy listening to bride has DT’s over bad boy from years ago. Set your wedding date for 4 months at least from date of last pill. Year long engagement’s the shit. As a guy, it’s basically the honeymoon phase anyway. In all likelihood, the skinniest, horniest she’ll ever be. until the pill withdrawal.

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    • on August 19, 2015 at 3:56 pm 88

      he isn’t totally wrong about this being related to going off the pill. the hormone levels and attraction change.

      even from posts we’ve read on here, it appears women who are on the pill tend to be more attracted to beta personalities and when off the pill, alpha. so what she was attracted to changed during the course of the relationship.

      sure, bottom line is, he didn’t handle it in the right way to keep her but seriously how was he to know that she was going to shift gears about what she needed and wanted midstream. obviously you have to calibrate and re-calibrate all the time but changes like that are pretty tough to navigate.

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      • on August 19, 2015 at 4:45 pm askjoe

        hmm.lost comment, but whatever:
        The pill thing’s real enough. Give it 3 months to see what demons bubble up from your girl’s id. Recent wedding I heard from grapevine that bride was basically DT’ing over thoughts of bad boy from years back. Groom was about as blue pill as could be.
        I’d say get a year long engagement. It’s basically your honeymoon…the girl’s gonna be her skinniest, horniest ever b4 you go pillless. Which you should 4 months before the ceremony just to be sure.

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      • on August 20, 2015 at 2:19 am Ripp

        “when off the pill, alpha.”

        Yes, when ovulating. However what truly happens is a return to a more natural feminine behaviour pattern.

        i.e. she needs a masculine counter part to balance the relationship. Essentially, an alpha-enough man to keep her checked: fucked good when needed. Told no when she’s irrational. Etc. The supplicating beta will just allow the hypergamous id to cycle it’s course. And if the environment suits her (media, smart phones, proximity to urban night life and toxic gossiping hens) she’ll satisfy her drive if left unchecked. Beta bux alpha fux.

        The pill and other contraceptives have all kinds of side effects. It really fucks with women. So many times I’ve been banging chics only to learn after they’re not on the pill, or they stop taking it since we’ve become a consistent fuck. I can usually tell though. They typically cum easier and become more open to all the nasty shit I want to do.

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      • on August 20, 2015 at 3:32 am Pwn

        The calibrate and recalibrate part makes most relationships more work than playing the field and then dumb women wonder why men cheat. Lol

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    • on August 20, 2015 at 8:51 am Captain Obvious

      Also, Fartiste – serious point here – were they any children involved? I hate to tell you this, my man, but if “you” had some children with her, and if you care to know the TRUTH of the matter, then you might want to send some mouth swabs off to the DNA laboratory.

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      • on August 20, 2015 at 9:05 am Captain Obvious

        And if there aren’t any children involved, then THANK YOUR LUCKY STARS!!!!! You can re-trench, re-group, learn Game and EvoPsych and horrifying Dark Enlightenment Truths, and then be reborn anew as the totally awesome husband and father which you will deserve to be. And you’ll be sporting some vastly more worthwhile chick as the Mother of Your Children.

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  8. on August 19, 2015 at 3:08 pm Arbiter

    I believe that this would be a non-issue without mass immigration. Any IQ problems in reproduction would be sorted out without intervention, if they existed at all. Or with the slightest of government encouragement.

    For instance, in a study of German parents, having a child lowered their happiness more than any other life change, including death of a spouse!

    But that would also be true for those with a low IQ.

    Smarter people, having by their inherent mental dispositions a lower threshold for the tedious and boring tasks of infant care, stopped having so many babies.

    I don’t believe it. Smarter people are the ones who learn ever since childhood that they must have the discipline to study and work hard. They have to develop a philosophy of discipline for themselves. Low-IQ people do more tedious rote tasks not because of self-discipline, but because they end up in low-end jobs where they have to do the same thing over and over again – precisely because they were incapable of imposing discipline on themselves in school.

    In short, the high-IQ crowd are the ones who will accept optional discipline more, not the low-IQ crowd.

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    • on August 19, 2015 at 3:23 pm everybodyhatesscott

      The dumb people might have their happiness lowered but not the future time orientation to prevent it. Smart chicks take the BC at the same time every day.

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      • on August 19, 2015 at 4:04 pm Arbiter

        The dumb people are not too dumb to prevent childbirth. Or to know when they don’t want kids.

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    • on August 19, 2015 at 3:29 pm Pwn

      Fixing dysgenic trends is easy. Make sterilization compulsory for people who can’t afford their first child and for the welfare class, while give tax rate reductions for children so that higher income people will benefit more per child.

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      • on August 19, 2015 at 4:09 pm Arbiter

        There is a sci-fi story where eugenic policy is included, and 90 percent of the results are achieved on a purely voluntary basis. Incentives are given. The worst are given money for not having children, and the best are given money for having children. In the cases where the wife has better genes than the husband they are given money if they agree to insemination.

        To encourage people to choose insemination, there had been a campaign to make people view the man who raises the child as the father, regardless of where the sperm comes from. “Giving years of your life to raise a child in your home, that is fatherhood, not the brief ejaculation”, something like that.

        Then it’s all changed anyway when genetic engineering advances so you can take the best traits from people who have them and spread to others. No more weak eyesight or receding hairlines or propensity for diabetes, for example.

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      • on August 19, 2015 at 4:53 pm Pwn

        Lol, you don’t need the insemination part because evolution is a statistical process. You just need to make sure the trends are right and you don’t need revolting things such as inseminating people’s wives with other people’s seed.

        By the way, there’s another reason why tax rate reductions are better(or tax deductions) than giving money. It encourages family formation because single mothers wouldn’t have enough taxes to deduct the money out of and care for the children.

        Also, having a culture based on cuckoldry is silly and I doubt would secure the commitment of its members. Genetic engineering will be interesting, but I doubt it will result in what most proponents think.

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      • on August 19, 2015 at 5:39 pm Observasaurus Rex

        Mandatory sterilization is evil. Now incentives to self sterilize are quite rational. 2 years or 20% of your jail sentence if you agree to sterilization. No welfare for anyone who isn’t sterilized. Within 2 generations the chaff will be quite well reduced.

        [CH: this is a good idea.]

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      • on August 20, 2015 at 8:13 am Arbiter

        Lol, you don’t need the insemination part because evolution is a statistical process.

        Really? Tell that to anyone who breeds horses, cats or dogs.

        There is a regression toward the mean. But children with high-IQ parents are still more likely to have a high IQ, just maybe not as high as their parents. And so forth.

        If it wasn’t possible to change evolution by consistent breeding programs where you select for certain traits … why do dog breeds exist?

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      • on August 20, 2015 at 8:17 am Arbiter

        Mandatory sterilization is evil.

        You mean that they are bad. Atrocious. Immoral. But not evil. A policy is not evil just because you don’t agree with it, same as the soldiers who fight against you are not evil for being on the other side and having other beliefs. Evil is to take pleasure in causing pain and misery for the sake of it. Evil is sadism.

        Someone may be WRONG about what policy is best, but that doesn’t make him evil. Not even if his policy causes suffering – which countless policies do, for various people. I can guarantee that you embrace various policies that cause suffering for various people, and it doesn’t make them, or you, evil. If you think that the policies are good and that’s why you want them – if you want to do good, then you are a good person. You may be WRONG about what is beneficial. But you are still good.

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      • on August 20, 2015 at 10:37 am Pwn

        Arbiter, I would tell it to someone who breeds horses and he’d get why I’m right. I assume you don’t breed horses anyway.

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    • on August 19, 2015 at 8:29 pm Vagina dominator

      “For instance, in a study of German parents, having a child lowered their happiness more than any other life change, including death of a spouse!”

      “For instance”. But what is this an “instance” of?

      If one lives in a society that prioritizes the acquisition of high-tech or expensive status symbols then of course one will be made unhappy by anything that interferes with or frustrates that pursuit.

      I have lived in SE Asia for getting onto 20 years now. Spent 12 years in spend-spend-spend Hong Kong. I loved the place but its inhabitants are probably the most miserable people in the world. It is impossible for them to balance family life against the needs for their existence because competitive pressures are so great and their needs include supporting a huge psychic tumor called consumerism.

      At the same time, HK people feel enormous pressure to have children and breed one or two children whose task in life will be to support their parents in old age. Preparations for this begin the moment they exit the birth canal. Of course the children will still be loved but hanging over every parental interaction with their children is the pressure to acquire. School life and “education” is insanely pressured there. From the moment they are born it is work work work.

      Presently I live somewhere more rural. People are not wealthy but the pressure of life is much less. Children are loved and they love their parents. Parents kiss their cheeks and laugh at their antics. There are many affectionate names for children here. Children are “buah hati”, “fruit of the heart”. And it isn’t just empty words.

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  9. on August 19, 2015 at 3:08 pm martin

    the flynn effect says iq has been going up to a limit. i believe that may be true, but in spite of that, people appear to be just as lazy, stupid, hateful, and incompetent as ever. so iq is probably not as meaningful as people believe it is, and probably isn’t linked with morality. marxism still isn’t dead, and it is usually espoused by a supposedly smarter set of people. you can watch supposedly high iq people arguing for all sorts of stupid things on any campus in the west. maybe iq is just linked with ability to feign moral attitudes.

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    • on August 19, 2015 at 3:14 pm Arbiter

      so iq is probably not as meaningful as people believe it is

      The fervent mantra of leftoids everywhere.

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      • on August 19, 2015 at 3:38 pm martin

        no, they argue they have high iq and conservatives much less so which explains my statement about why that devalues iq. please read more carefully in the future. :]

        http://66.135.55.40/DaveSource.com/Fringe/Fringe/Politics/Conservatism-and-cognitive-ability.pdf

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      • on August 19, 2015 at 4:11 pm Arbiter

        no, they argue they have high iq and conservatives much less so which explains my statement about why that devalues iq. please read more carefully in the future. :]

        That flippant comment is ridiculous when coupled with the bullshit claim before it. Okay, goodie, you find some leftists who claim that they have a higher IQ than cons. Meanwhile the Left has over and over again repeated that there is no such thing as intelligence.

        But I guess you haven’t heard that constant repetition because you have – a link! To one person saying something! Woohoo!

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      • on August 19, 2015 at 4:34 pm Sean Fielding

        IQ is less important on the right half of the bell curve. The main issue is that leftists completely deny the fact that Black societies will never approach White norms of success at current Black IQ levels.

        But IQ does not exist in a behavioral vacuum; it is related to aggression, time preference and other important traits. And these traits are ‘doled out’ under parsimonious Darwinian limits. You cannot ‘have it all.’

        On the individual level, probably every CH reader would rather have a 110-130 IQ and be socially dominant than have a 130+IQ and be a nerd.

        On the racial level that is (or was) similar to us Whites. Ignoring admittedly very important issues like White distribution width and White trust, we are the race in the sweet spot: lots of IQ to drive civilization, but enough agression and dominance to conquer and explore, without descending into rulebound bureaucracy (China) or into tribalism (Africa).

        BTW, without us to parasitize, Jews are as bureaucratic, legalistic and anti-empirical as the Chinese.

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      • on August 19, 2015 at 5:24 pm martin

        the left is of course hypocritical because we mustn’t forget the dumb-dad trope, or sneering at “uneducated” cons. with leftist academia, i believe they may well have higher iq but that this is correlated with ideas like marxism, feminism, and multiculturalism which are incredibly destructive to society. it barely reproduces, and we don’t value female intelligence over beauty so i am inclined to think it is not a single-most defining trait of a man and paradoxically is correlated with stupid beliefs.

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      • on August 20, 2015 at 9:13 am martin

        actually since you brought up China there is a good point to be made. everyone lurvs iq and supposedly these asians have wonderfully high iq’s and chinese are the majority of asians so let’s just call them all chinese. but i have witnessed how they behave first hand. they are greedy, prestige seeking, thieves that ruin the character of an institution once you let them in all for the glory of their own family and country. and people pander to them to the detriment of their own nation. their absurd, artificial economy has spread out across the globe like a disease, raising real estate prices and infecting schools everywhere.

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  10. on August 19, 2015 at 3:16 pm Mike

    …not to mention the dysgenic impacts of the smart one’s development of antibiotics, vaccines, and food production. Prior to WWII, populations generally operated under Darwin’s Survival of the Fittest rule. The sick and malnourished, especially those living between the 35th parallels,perished. Often at young ages; before they themselves could reproduce. Since WWII, because of the development of Penicillin, vaccines, and food surpluses from the development of farming technology, we are living in the era of Survival of the UN-fittest. As those under-preforming and less intelligent populations, (originating overwhelmingly from between the 35th parallels) are fed, and given life saving medicines, they no longer die young, but instead reproduce..a lot. Eventually making the resource drain, and dysgenia unstoppable.It becomes a tidal wive of Un-fittest humanity until nothing is left. If you feed the rats they breed, and with them comes plague. All that’s left is a ghost ship.).

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    • on August 19, 2015 at 9:58 pm JohnDSee

      I’ve been looking for information about populations’ behavior between the 35s and outside of them.

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  11. on August 19, 2015 at 3:17 pm corvinus333

    I suspect religion has something to do with it. The Catholic Church was completely overhauled, modernized, and liberalized in the 1960s, which sent all Catholic societies worldwide into the crapper, and white ones into a demographic death-spiral. (Latrino ones too — Cuba and Puerto Rico are heading that way — but it took far longer for them.) And non-Catholic white societies were still affected by osmosis.

    The Pill also messes things up, hugely. The common scenario: Lonely woman decides she wants sex, gets on the Pill, starts banging a nice, desperate beta male, quite often starts a relationship with and marries him, gets off the Pill to have a(nother) child, and trouble ensues.

    Without the Pill, she’d reject any overtures from a beta, and it would be even more obvious to men that beta male behavior is counterproductive. This is one reason I suspect that societies where the women tend not to use the Pill (like NAMs in the United States) have more alpha, Game-aware men than those who do.

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  12. on August 19, 2015 at 3:26 pm Pwn

    I don’t think people had a higher iq pre-agriculture because there should have been no selective pressure for higher iqs than some threshold before the advent of denser populations that needed more management and planning. And smart people always had fewer kids but less died while children. I think this is one of the causes why all civilizations collapse: they lower infant mortality rates which selects for lower iq because lower iq people always have more children due to lower parental investment. So over time, the people who built the civilization in the first place get swamped genetically by the free riders.

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    • on August 19, 2015 at 4:13 pm Arbiter

      The struggle for survival was immense in the Stone Age. Almost everyone died early, few passed on their genes. Every single trait that had any effect on survival would matter. Intelligence being very high on the list. How do you think they invented pottery? Management and planning – those are always needed, that’s human life.

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      • on August 19, 2015 at 4:59 pm Sean Fielding

        Just for clarity, Arbiter:

        “Almost everyone died early.” Savage women are thought to average four pregnancies over a lifetime, with two offspring surviving to reproductive maturity. So only half died so early (mostly infancy) that they couldn’t reproduce.

        Of those surviving to maturity, they died young by our standards (average 35-40), but that was late middle age back then, and almost no one made it to old age.

        Also of those surviving to maturity, almost all the women had children, and at least half the men.

        “The struggle for survival was immense … Every single trait that had any effect on survival would matter.”

        This is true in every age, the average person (and the whole lot of Leftist academics) just don’t understand it in regard to their own era, mostly because they’re immersed in it. A fish does not know it is swimming in water. Right now, for sure we are being selected for some incredibly important traits; we just don’t understand the details. Probably the tendency for Wall-ladies to have 1.6 kids with a flattered beta is high among them though.

        I agree that IQ mattered a lot in the Stone Age. But mainly in the North.

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      • on August 19, 2015 at 5:03 pm Pwn

        Before agriculture being a good hunter, having good eyesight, being a good fighter were far, far more important than being intelligent. Insofar as you passed a certain intelligence threshold, more of it didn’t help you at all. The relative importance of intelligence compared to other traits increased with agriculture and the increase of Commerce and population density.

        Of course, I do think open cities that allow everyone to move into them after being established by some people will result in the bottom of the barrel thriving in said cities. Which is why cities should grow organically and be limited before they reach millions. There’s too much of a good thing.

        If a prehistoric life selected for high intelligence and agricultural civilization lead to lower intelligence, then the pre-agriculture tribes we find occasionally should be at least on the same level of intelligence as us. Heck, black people in Africa had a pretty agricultural life style and most tribes had things like pottery before we got there. They certainly aren’t smarter than us.

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      • on August 20, 2015 at 10:54 am Father Thyme

        “The struggle for survival was immense in the Stone Age. Almost everyone died early…”

        Wrong. The Neolithic (Agricultural) Revolution actually lowered life expectancy.

        Paleolithic 33
        Neolithic 20
        Bronze Age and Iron Age 26
        Classical Greece 28
        Classical Rome 20–30

        wikipedia.org/wiki/Life_expectancy

        Also see:

        Mark Nathan Cohen, “Health and the Rise of Civilization.” (Yale University Press, 1989)

        “There is no evidence from archaeological samples to suggest that adult life expectancy increased with the adoption of sedentism or farming; there is some evidence (complicated by the effects of a probably acceleration of population growth on cemetery samples) to suggest that adult life expectancy may actually have declined as farming was adopted. In later stages of the intensification of agriculture and the development of civilization, adult life expectancy most often increased and often increased substantially but the trend was spottier than we sometimes realize.”

        primitivism.com/health-civilization.htm

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  13. on August 19, 2015 at 3:29 pm yeahokcool

    nowdays, “smart” people are also very addicted to consumerism, materialism, consumptionism, et al. pursuit of those isms leaves very little wiggle room for baby (or babies), especially since wifey MUST work in order to support the great, ravenous beast. i roll with a lot of married professionals and i am one of the only married people i know whose wife doesn’t work. even guys who ostensibly make way more money than me NEED their wives to work so that they can drive this or live here or buy that. as such, passing on your genes these days is way more stressful than it was in the past. despite being obvious to me, this disease has spread far and wide even amongst people who should know better. i’ve mentioned before that i am a member of a private “gentleman’s club.” the club is very exclusive in who it permits as members (short answer: only white males may be invited and accepted as members). anyway, despite being likeminded on the surface, not all is as it should be. a few weeks ago, i was having lunch at the club with a number of other members. we were discussing my son, who was born recently. i flatly told everyone that i have yet to change a diaper or wake up with him or, really, do a goddamn thing other than hold him and whisper to him that i will always take care of him. they were all astonished and asked him how i was “getting away with it.” i told them the truth: i simply make clear to my wife that i would not be responsible for feeding, changing, or waking up with the baby. for a club with a rich history of “tradition,” you would think that would be the standard. apparently not. when our best and brightest have allowed themselves to be reduced to this, you know we are in a dire situation.

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    • on August 19, 2015 at 9:42 pm Corvo

      That is exactly how things went with my 3 kids. I work a job outside the home. She stays home and handles the duties of the kids and the home – every diaper and every meal. She’s a great mother and white-proud. I really think the stress levels in our family are way, way below the norm for our income bracket. I bust my ass too, at work, and she knows that.

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    • on August 20, 2015 at 4:50 am Pwn

      My mother has a career and my father does and always did far, far less than my mother both professionally(because my mother is harder working and ended up working in a better industry) and in the house. On the other hand, my dad has game. I was in the elevator with him and a cutie and she asked if we’re going to the fourth level too. My dad said that sure, now since she invited him. Then we all laughed our asses off when she cracked up. My dad is a little over 60 and she was in her early 20s. I have no idea how my dad got really good at socializing, but literally everyone likes him. So game uber alles.

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  14. on August 19, 2015 at 3:36 pm The Other Anonymous

    In defense of those fulfilling our biological imperative – children are a gift.

    Don’t over-think it – and don’t wait too long.

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  15. on August 19, 2015 at 3:41 pm Johannes

    To work around this, we need more incentives for smart people to have kids, such as tax breaks, higher status and preferences in hiring (affirmative action, just eugenic instead of dysgenic!).

    It may not help, though. Revilo P. Oliver wrote in 1985:

    «A brief item in the “Courrier du Continent” for December reports that in Romania very stringent legislation to prevent abortions took effect in June 1984. Persons who procure abortions will be condemned to twenty-five years in prison. Furthermore, the drugs that are used in the United States to avert conception must not be sold, and a special burden of taxation is levied upon childless couples. It remains to be seen, of course, whether this proletarian legislation will be more effective than the laws by which Augustus vainly tried to halt race-suicide among the upper classes of Rome.»

    Maybe the issue is not really The Pill, The Rubber, and Abortion, but simply feminism. F. Roger Devlin has some ideas here: http://www.thornwalker.com/ditch/devlin_home_ec_01.htm

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    • on August 20, 2015 at 4:15 am Pwn

      This generally resulted in throngs of illegal abortions by smart, connected women, while the shit people reproduced(especially since they cared less for the living conditions of their kids). Not to mention that it filled orphanages with unwanted children that have been a burden for decades.

      If I ruled a country, I’d legalize abortion for married couples only, but also you’d have to make people afford the children by reducing taxes and letting old farts die. Young people basically have the senile old in their care as their children right now. Lol

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  16. on August 19, 2015 at 3:57 pm Not Thought Police

    I too feel human evolution has gone dysgenic since the 1960’s.

    everything before that (for the last 200,000 years) was eugenic: the intelligent, the successful, the wealthy, the resourceful, the ambitious, the brave, the bold, were, in general, rewarded with a good wife and a large family.

    Take all those attributes post-1960’s and you can more or less flip them on their heads. Many of those will not get a “good” wife. The ones that do, rarely breed beyond replacement. I feel that it’s nearly the opposites of those types who breed the most.

    The welfare frauds and the dindu’s can mate freely. The intelligent, meanwhile, heavily subsidize their kids.

    Pill and Feminism and capitalism have played a huge role in this. Mothers must now work. The real value of wages has dropped: Automation, the microprocessor, cheap foreign labor and women themselves all increase the supply of labor. As supply of labor has gone up, demand (wages) has gone down. Even (especially) the most intelligent and potentially successful, and potentially ‘eugenic’ of parents must both work.

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    • on August 20, 2015 at 4:43 am Pwn

      Both parents have to work now because they both support a couple of old farts too which cost even more than children would cost. You don’t understand labor economics BTW.

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      • on August 20, 2015 at 7:17 pm James1

        You mean they support a hoard of Ni66 ers.

        It used to be husband worked wife stayed home with the kids and there was still enough for a (ni66er) maid (watch mr blanding builds his dream house).

        Now both husband and wife have to work to support that ni66er and its ni6lets.

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      • on August 22, 2015 at 2:54 pm Not Thought Police

        “You don’t understand labor economics BTW”

        Okay, so enlighten us?

        “Both parents have to work now because they both support a couple of old farts too which cost even more than children would cost.”

        Well i did mention the welfare state. That was part of my answer.

        (in addition to all the other parts where i talked about supply of labor since 1960’s)

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    • on August 20, 2015 at 9:03 pm Corvo

      “Even (especially) the most intelligent and potentially successful, and potentially ‘eugenic’ of parents must both work.”

      Bullshit. If a man earns enough, his wife can focus on raising their children exactly how they want to raise them, rather than taking orders from some office boss alpha-male outside the family. Ask me how I know.

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      • on August 22, 2015 at 3:15 pm Not Thought Police

        “Ask me how I know.”

        You have a wife who’s not an eat pray slut (you hope) and kids and you are the sole provider?.

        Evolution isn’t saved now. You do know this right?

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  17. on August 19, 2015 at 4:11 pm Ohiomega

    Speaking of the boudoir, what does the mighty CH think of this new “female Viagra” being approved by the Fuckin’ and Druggin’ Association?

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    • on August 19, 2015 at 4:20 pm Mike

      What a joke. Better a good pull of the hair and slap on the ass to jump start their tingles.

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    • on August 19, 2015 at 4:52 pm askjoe

      probably gonna be root of more weirdo, feminist r@pe charges…”you seduced me while I was on female viagra, it’s no different than if I was drunk”

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  18. on August 19, 2015 at 4:13 pm mark

    You’re way above the paygrade.

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  19. on August 19, 2015 at 4:16 pm Drive Them Before You

    This isn’t even close to your theory, but ok.

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  20. on August 19, 2015 at 4:17 pm scrivener3

    Smart men have lots of kids. Maybe smart women don’t. Lots of rich guys start a second family at 50.

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  21. on August 19, 2015 at 4:23 pm whorefinder

    A successful society breeds the seeds of its own demise.

    Catch-22 rape!

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  22. on August 19, 2015 at 4:37 pm Freddie

    Game-related question :

    I met this woman online, she 31 and I 38. She was born in Iran and lived there until age 15, but is fully western, has lived in multiple countries, and is on a dating website.

    We met up for drinks. We connected well, she was really into my conversation about meditation and spirituality, and she gave me all the classic IOIs (playing with hair, touching me, etc.). My game was solid in terms of DHV, etc. I can’t point to anything I did wrong, other than make my voice tonality better (it is not bad, but I can make it much better when I consciously do it)..

    We move to a different part of the location, and kiss for a bit. Everything good so far. No greater resistance from having grown up in Iran.

    I then invite her over to my place for lunch on Saturday (two days later). She agrees.

    But the day before, she cancels for a bullshit reason.

    I let a couple of days go by, and call. She does not pick up. So the day after that, I send the ‘What’s up, flakey mcflakester?’ text.

    She did reply, however, she said “I don’t want to be a flake. I think you are exceptional and inspiring, but I just don’t feel there is chemistry between us.”.

    This seems to happen a lot. A date goes very well, we kiss, but she flakes later on. I can’t seem to figure it out.

    1) Are women nowadays this fickle, that they would be highly attracted to someone one day, totally lose it the next? Of course, a week later she could return to being attracted to me, but the interaction has ended, as she won’t proactively start it up. A ‘trough’ ends the interaction, even if later ‘peaks’ arise..
    2) Or is the problem that the kissing on the first date is faster than they wanted, and this makes them flake? All game literature everywhere says kiss on the first date. I manage this often, but my kiss-to-lay conversion ratio is very low.
    3) Or, could it be that since I am considerably higher socio-economic status than a l of these women, that something shuts down because they assume I am a player?
    4) Or, based on Mystery Method, am I going for Attraction and Seduction, but not comfort? This seems to contradict the ‘kiss on the first date’ rule, since the date is only 2 to 2.5 hours..

    I can’t seem to improve this low conversion rate. A lot of A+ dates with IOI, kino initiated by her, and kissing at the end, peter out later.

    Any feedback, or links to old CH articles that may be useful, are appreciated.

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    • on August 19, 2015 at 9:55 pm Benson

      But the day before, she cancels for a bullshit reason.

      In the future, just cut her off when she flakes. You could try one of these:
      https://heartiste.wordpress.com/2009/01/08/a-test-of-your-game-the-judging-2/

      But radio silence is probably your best bet. Maybe she reaches out, maybe she doesn’t. Either way, who cares? Just go meet someone else.

      She was talking to four or five other guys while she was talking to you; one of them was cooler than you.

      [CH: and it may not even be the case that the other guy was cooler. he could have simply hit all her buttons in the right order.]

      It is what it is. I’m in the same situation, if it’s any consolation.

      Also, lunch dates are gay. The sun’s out, you’re eating sandwiches. It’s a very unsexy environment.

      [yeah screw lunch dates, unless you’re insta-dating after a day game pickup. nighttime is the best time FOR LURV.]

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      • on August 19, 2015 at 11:55 pm Benson

        [CH: and it may not even be the case that the other guy was cooler. he could have simply hit all her buttons in the right order.]

        One and the same, no?

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      • on August 20, 2015 at 2:35 am Freddie

        I should clarify that it was in invite *to my place* for lunch.

        This has worked in the past, since the daytime seems more innocuous, but sex happens nonetheless since she is at my place.

        But my questions are unanswered, about Game. I always seem to have a near-perfect first date, ending with k-close, only for her to later flake or say there is no chemistry. I don’t know which of the 4 possibilities I listed, might it be (or yet another).

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      • on August 20, 2015 at 4:32 am Pwn

        Lunch dates are gay if you don’t know how to organize them. You can very well go for a picnic style lunch date. It’s how I fucked in public the first time. Lol

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    • on August 20, 2015 at 4:40 am Pwn

      Conversation about meditation = comfort. Conversation about sex, making her imaging your dick in her vaj = attraction. I don’t think she lied to you – she probably thought you’re interesting and a cool guy, but she didn’t tingle down there enough for it to carry on beyond the date. It’s good you kissed her though because you denied her the ljbf shit.

      Building attraction is harder, imo, than making her feel comfort,although after you have her hooked it’s amusing to amp it up(e.g. Edging women during sex is hilarious and you can get away with anal, cumming on her face or whatever if you do it well).

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    • on August 20, 2015 at 9:42 am ladydonnalands

      Don’t kiss on the first date or even the second date. Act like a challenge. Maybe, you just don’t know how to kiss right. The kiss test is a woman’s test to know if you are worth the next step. The theory for women is; If you kiss shitty, then you’ll fuck shitty too.
      Whoever said kiss on the first date was wrong.

      [CH: horrible. horrible dating advice. just the worst. see gentlemen, this is why you don’t listen to women when they talk about what men should do to get them in bed.
      you know what happens when a man doesn’t try to kiss a girl on the first or second date? FRIENDZONE.]

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    • on August 20, 2015 at 11:31 am Observasaurus Rex

      Girl: Hey I’ve got to (Flaking because reasons).
      You: Sure Stacy, catch you later.
      Girl: My name’s not Stacy, it’s (whatever).
      You: You’re the blonde girl in the sundress from (venue) right?
      Girl: No I’m (blah blah blah).
      You: k

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    • on August 20, 2015 at 1:21 pm everybodyhatesscott

      Chicks flake all the time. It happens. At least she had the decency to respond about the lack of chemistry. I’ve been talking to a girl for months about arranging a 2nd date (I’ve been sleeping with other girls and it’s mostly amusement for me at this point) and as much as shes “Open for a 2nd date” something always comes up last minute.

      Has anybody else noticed the “I have a family obligation I forgot about” being the new go to excuse? I’ve gotten this one a lot this year and wondering if it’s part of a broader trend.

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    • on August 28, 2015 at 4:49 pm Paideia

      I want someone experienced to answer this question as well.

      The best I can think of is to:

      1) pre-empt flaking by getting the 1st date bang. That means only do dates in locations close to home base so you can take the suspect back for questioning. If game is not supertight, have a nice pad. Have some coconut water or some shit at your place.

      2) never contact a girl after the first date unless it’s to volunteer information without ANY required action on her part, ie dont suggest a date. Instead send a photo of some dog shit and say the color reminds you of her hair + tell her you enjoyed yourself.

      That’s the best I can think of so far, but I’m on sabbatical from dating due to other, more pressing priorities at the moment.

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  23. on August 19, 2015 at 4:42 pm Stevo

    Bruce Charlton has written extensively on his theory of mutation accumulation due to lowered childhood mortality leading to IQ decline.
    http://iqpersonalitygenius.blogspot.com/

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  24. on August 19, 2015 at 4:51 pm corvinus333

    The Pill seems to alter women’s sexual preferences so strongly that they choose less masculine beta males as partners if they were on the Pill during the time of choosing. This would imply that these women would have more kids, Pill-disposed as they are to settling into family life with a beta provider. However, it could conceivably run the other way: Once married and thinking about having kids, women who get off the Pill might suddenly become repulsed by their babyfatted betahubbies as their ovulatory machine revs up again after a hiatus of many years. This could lead to an increase in divorce (which in fact has been happening throughout the West since the 1960s) and consequently a decrease in children (or a decrease in children born in wedlock).

    The Pill should be banned. There is probably very few more effective anti-Game forces around.

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  25. on August 19, 2015 at 4:51 pm corvinus333

    The Pill has to be banned. There are probably few more potent anti-Game forces in the world today.

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  26. on August 19, 2015 at 4:55 pm Noodles

    “…dysgenia in full black…”

    Indeed.

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  27. on August 19, 2015 at 4:58 pm SC

    Instead of banning condoms, pills, and abortion, how about just banning welfare and giving all drug addicts the option of free sterilization?

    Banning welfare would not decrease the low IQ peoples’ birth rate, but it would decrease the number of them who reach reproductive age.

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    • on August 19, 2015 at 5:07 pm Pwn

      Banning those things resulted in miraculous things in Ceausescu’s Romania. Lol. I understand banning abortion because killing your ownchildren is revolting(or legalize infanticide too for the sake of consistency) or banning the pill on environmental reasons. But banning all forms of contraception and abortion is imbecilic to say the least.

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      • on August 19, 2015 at 5:50 pm corvinus333

        Ceausescu’s Romania also had Third World levels of health care otherwise.

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      • on August 20, 2015 at 4:30 am Pwn

        Do you like red herring?

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    • on August 19, 2015 at 6:42 pm whiteboy

      black people would be much stronger and healthier if they had to grow their own food and build their own houses.

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      • on August 19, 2015 at 8:51 pm SC The Yellow Eskimo Fetishist

        Well, I don’t know about stronger, but they would certainly be less obese if they stopped receiving food stamps. The way I see it, my worldview benefits many Whites, and it only temporarily shafts Blacks/Hispanics. In the long run even Blacks and HIspanics would benefit because the only ones who survive will be the ones who are smart enough to survive without welfare.

        [CH: how magnanimous of you.]

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  28. on August 19, 2015 at 5:05 pm Benson

    Is there better evidence for the relationship between birth control and mate preference? A study of 170 women’s preferences for facial masculinity isn’t very conclusive. Plus birth control use in the study was self-reported.

    [CH: i’ve seen a few other studies that concluded the same thing, but i get your point. this question is far from answered.]

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    • on August 20, 2015 at 9:31 am having a bad day

      @Benson [and CH]

      how about a personal experience by yours truly…

      a couple years ago when i was just getting comfortable with game and slinging it around where ever i could to observe the effect and get comfortable with my new reality (including family functions, which made me the most alpha dude there by far…) me and the family went to another family function…wife’s cousin had just gotten off the pill a couple months before bc her and hubby were trying to get pregnant (she was mid-30’s)…they are both super libs/blue pillers/’you go girl’ types…

      as soon as i walk in the door [wife’s cousin] gets up in my grill (big f’me eyes/shit eating grin/dilated pupils/submissive ‘urgent’ body language/etc…she didn’t even say hi to anyone else…lol)…”Hiiii, haaaaabbbddd” and she just stood there violating my personal space, ringing her hands (the backs of which were touching my chest) and waiting for me to engage her, while her hubby stood in the background looking at the floor…she couldn’t even contain herself…i could actually see her hindbrain in action trying to get laid/get my attention/approval…it was just like a primate documentary…lol…as i turned, she followed me to stay in my face, grinning like an idiot…

      i knew game was strong, but that was a whole new level of experience for me…lol…but even then i knew enough to be worried that she was going to just pull out my dick and go for it…lol…it was very socially awkward to say the least…and if i had just taken her hand and lead her to the ‘isolated location’ (upstairs bedroom) it would have been a done deal…and that’s with ALL of [wife’s cousin]’s family (including hubby) in immediate attendance…so, it’s not surprising to me at all that women going off the pill are cheating…lol…

      good luck!

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      • on August 20, 2015 at 9:45 am boned

        I was on other side of HABD’s story many years ago, except me not being lib dork. Before I learned of this game shit, at a family friend’s event. I saw the fiance preening body language to a guy, about a month before our wedding. I knew the game was up subconciously. and it was. but that’s someone else’s problem now and fat. I’d say she was off the pill two months earlier. There was never any doubt that she was my dedicated slam pig before that, that that’s the sort of body langauge I was used to getting.

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      • on August 20, 2015 at 11:05 am Benson

        But it sounds like her husband is a huge pussy. Pill or no, you could have fucked her.

        I don’t doubt that there is a relationship between hormonal birth control and desire for jerk boys. But there’s a lot of biochemical factors in play, and determining how much influence one has on the other is hard to do.

        Frankly, though, I doubt that birth control can completely override a woman’s evolved desire for bad boys.

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  29. on August 19, 2015 at 5:10 pm Joshua Sinistar

    I see the Frankfurt School is still going hey, squirrel when it comes to race. Diet does not appreciably affect IQ at all. The Flynn Effect only tracks the lying that the noses do when they keep changing the Psychometric Tests. Schlomo is nowhere near as smart as you. That 115 score they keep yelling about is a Big Lie. There are three parts to the Terman Test. The 115 is the verbal part. When you add all three and divide by three, Schlomo and his creeps have an average IQ similar to their gardener and maid from Central America. Its just the fraud where they open the gates for each other that gets them into Ivy League Schools. Also, they are well known to plagiarize and steal other peoples’ work to make themselves seem intelligent.
    IQ is all about Race. Crime is all about Race. Race is THE MOST IMPORTANT FACTOR.

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    • on August 19, 2015 at 6:00 pm James1

      This ^

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    • on August 20, 2015 at 12:38 am Scanman

      MOTs (Ashkenazi) excel at self-promotion and lack almost any sense of shame. There is likely at least some genetic component to this but if your entire cultural/personal identity relies on the fact that God loves your people/you more than others, these traits should not be surprising. Same goes for hostility toward out groups. All cultures demonstrate it to some degree but it is extraordinarily exaggerated MOTs.

      These traits and not higher IQ are responsible for the domination of certain sectors of society by MOTs. I’ve worked in a profession and in an area of the country dominated by them for 20+ years, and I have not seen any evidence that they are more intelligent. In fact, I’ve noticed just the opposite in spatial/non-verbal aptitude. They are well below the norm here. Capable attorneys/accountants, comically bad visual artists/sculptors/mechanics etc.

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    • on August 20, 2015 at 1:38 am Amasius

      “But… muh Nobel Prizes, muh Nobel Prizes! Sure Whites beat us 70 percent to 20, but per capita we’re the smartest people in the world! Look at Irving Berlin, the greatest songwriter of all time! ‘Oceans white with foam,’ bitches!”

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    • on August 20, 2015 at 4:28 am Pwn

      Except that when Jews were purged from German universities by the nazis, the math output of German universities went down the drain. Jews are also really good at abstract thinking and quite bad at concrete thinking. Which is why they don’t make great engineers, but they make good physicists.

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      • on August 20, 2015 at 5:18 am whiteboy

        Blacks are really good at abstract thinking and quite bad at concrete thinking. Which is why they don’t make great engineers, but they make good jazz musicians.

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      • on August 20, 2015 at 7:26 pm James1

        Cite?

        One example: German ww2 aerospace was first class.

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  30. on August 19, 2015 at 5:30 pm Travelove

    I’ve been thinking this since I’ve learned Natural Selection in school 20 years ago. We have reached the pinnacle. There’s no way but down now. Unless society collapses and we’re cast into a Mad-Max / Fallout survival-of-the-fittest-style world. At least we won’t have to put up with feminism in that scenario.

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  31. on August 19, 2015 at 5:37 pm retrophoebia

    Sounds like the premise of Idiocracy, fleshed out and articulated.

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  32. on August 19, 2015 at 5:50 pm George

    Idiocracy opening scene sums it all up: https://vimeo.com/100094379

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    • on August 19, 2015 at 6:12 pm Aurelius

      Good Catch. I just taped Idiocracy and I’m going to watch it again tonight. Clevon Jr. is a bad ass! His quote to a group of cheerleaders: “I’m going to fuck all y’all!” Also, Dr. Lexus speaks to me: “My X wife is tarded, now she’s a pilot.”

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  33. on August 19, 2015 at 5:58 pm chedolf

    This sounds like it’s based in part on Spandrell’s and Nick Land’s “IQ Shredder” posts.

    – https://bloodyshovel.wordpress.com/2013/03/26/lee-kuan-yew-drains-your-brains-for-short-term-gain/

    – http://www.xenosystems.net/iq-shredders/

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  34. on August 19, 2015 at 6:19 pm Doombringer Thought Of The Day: Is The Evolution Of Human Intelligence Self-Limiting? | Reaction Times

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  35. on August 19, 2015 at 6:47 pm Axismundi

    CH, you need to look deeper based on the real world into what the Pill does. I don’t think it’s as simple as women like betas more on the Pill.

    What the Pill does is precisely FLIP a woman’s inbuilt pheremonal detection of a mate with an optimal genetic immune system that is *opposite* yet complementary to hers. Next to nothing is known about what this means in practical terms.

    A woman can sense correct immune system polarity off the Pill, but goes for someone who has a similar immune system genetics on the Pill!

    Immunity genes are the main, number one thing that evolution selected for, way beyond any other marker of fitness. Disease killed more people in the past than any other factor by far.

    What we do know is that if natural selection has utility, the natural eugenic program running in women via their noses has been thwarted and in fact reversed for two generations now, going on three.

    You don’t need any single additional cause for Western decline than this. This means that most pairings and, worse, most sexual attraction expressed by prime age Western women for 40+ years has been going exactly where it ought not, exactly towards men they shouldn’t have been breeding with!

    The Pill needs to be banned right now across the West, no doubt. Total replacement with IUDs and Western Europeans will be back on top in two generations.

    [CH: we live in interesting times.]

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  36. on August 19, 2015 at 6:48 pm Cydonai 19.5

    Feminist cannibalism in full bloom ……………..

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  37. on August 19, 2015 at 6:56 pm B

    The welfare state plays a huge role. The smart people don’t have more children than they can economically raise. The welfare states takes their assets and transfers them to people who don’t think ahead, dumb people. Smart people can afford less children and dumb people are rewarded for having more.

    However there is something even larger yet, the society does not value intelligence. The society values other traits. Physical strength, ability to play sports, social manipulation skills, aggression, physical attractiveness, and much more. Intelligence and knowledge are so far down the list of desirable traits they teeter on the fulcrum of being undesirable. Intelligence and knowledge can enhance traits that are desirable, but by themselves are not valued by humans. At least not after a century of government school conditioning where people make emotional evaluations in the moment.

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    • on August 19, 2015 at 7:14 pm George

      There is a point of diminishing returns as intelligence gets higher. The super intellectuals I know are lacking in social awareness and social ability. I see the A students eventually working for the C students…

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      • on August 20, 2015 at 4:24 am Pwn

        People skills are overrated when it comes to entrepreneurship or anything that matters in getting a job done. This is why the people skills people usually work for others – they don’t provide any value by themselves. Social awareness doesn’t benefit you that much – it’s just a multiplier if you’re already smart.

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    • on August 20, 2015 at 4:21 am Pwn

      The children of the underclass cost far less than the old useless people whose decade long vacations we currently fund.

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      • on August 20, 2015 at 5:34 am whiteboy

        this problem will resolve itself as the white population declines.

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      • on August 20, 2015 at 6:09 am meistergedanken

        They don’t cost less if you factor in the cost of the crimes they commit. The “old useless people” aren’t robbing, raping or killing anyone.

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      • on August 20, 2015 at 8:44 am whiteboy

        but they also arent inventing anything or landing on the moon…

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      • on August 20, 2015 at 10:40 am Pwn

        Considering they mostly rape and kill themselves or underclass white people, those things don’t matter to the white people we want to reproduce.

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      • on August 20, 2015 at 7:32 pm James1

        Rotherham….

        The old “useless” people built something. The underclass ( just say Ni66ers) never have been anything but anegative. I certainly have less of an issue with social security than welfare, medicaid, etc.

        Or are you one of those who equates a bone in the nose with landing on the moon?

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  38. on August 19, 2015 at 7:35 pm Rodrigo Amado

    At some point when the civilization falls because the leftoids the smart ones will prevail again and a new cycle will begun.
    If artificial inteligente does not screw up everything before.

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  39. on August 19, 2015 at 8:46 pm evilwhitemalempire

    “Is the evolution of human intelligence self-limiting?”
    —————————–
    Yes, intelligence, above a certain threshold, can and often does undermine the Darwinian integrity of the orgasm.

    I would also go further to say that it is, in fact, THE reason that human cranial capacity has not increased for the past 100,000 years.

    There have, of course, evolved a whole slew of religious based memes in symbiosis with certain genes in an attempt to allow Darwin to eat his cake and have it too (i.e. they select copies of one another).

    These memes are easy to recognize.

    They are mostly traditional social proscriptions against masturbation and hedonism.

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    • on August 20, 2015 at 4:20 am Pwn

      The memes against hedonism were merely to thwart consumerism, which is the bane of the developed world now. Hedonism is death for a society.

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  40. on August 19, 2015 at 8:56 pm Ang Aamer

    Education of Females inversely affects female fertility.

    The mechanism is direct. Educate to age 18 you have cut 5 years off of a woman’s fertile life. Educate to 22 you have cut off 9 years of her fertile life.

    Less time to get pregnant = less pregnancies.
    A woman has only so many 9 month windows in her fertile life.

    I don’t know why people overthink this dynamic. I suppose in the west we just assume everywhere is the same. But in Africa, Middle East and much of Asian once a girl has her first cycle… a man comes by and get’s her pregnant.

    The smartest females now go to graduate school. Those females are taking sometimes a full two decades of fertility off the table to attain that level of education. To produce usually 0-1 low quality offspring.

    So in essence A Woman’s advanced education is selecting her OUT of the future gene pool.

    More females educated to be Doctors and Lawyers = less smart children. And more babys from less educated females.

    You can see this direct tie in to the selection criteria for selective programs in Medicine. The first in person question is “do you have a family member in the Medical profession”. While they don’t say it overtly they are testing to see if mommy was a Doc.

    Smart momma means smart daughter who knows the sacrifices that Medicine takes. This means a nice female robot who won’t get kid crazy and leave the program halfway through.

    A good sociological test would be a survey of woman medical doctors. There would be a steady increase in younger women who report that their mother is an MD if my theory is correct. A standard regression age to reporting Dr Mom would show a correlative slope (negative slope in this case) and you would need what about 1-2k female respondents. (any researchers listening???)

    But here’s a scary thought… if educating women is in fact lowering the mean intelligence of western societies. What is happening in societies that are NOT educating their women??? Are they by implication getting on the average smarter? Does this explain many geopolitical events in the world?

    One wonders…

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    • on August 20, 2015 at 4:18 am Pwn

      No, it doesn’t mean not educating your daughters makes a society smarter, it’s just that University education reduces fertility for the women involved in it.

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      • on August 20, 2015 at 8:11 am Ang Aamer

        Ok thought experiment time.

        Modern society needs educated humans with advanced degrees.

        Do we take the humans who can only reproduce for 25 years and make sure that the more difficult educational time period is during that 25 years or not?

        If your male part gonads had a time bomb on them set for 25 years YOU would be F’ing every female in sight during those 25 years no?

        If you take away genders I think the answer is logical. With modern medicine humans can live to 85+ years. It’s stupid for western society to squander the good 25 years of a woman’s reproductive life on an education that may indeed have the informational impact of discouraging child bearing.

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      • on August 20, 2015 at 10:45 am Pwn

        Ang, it doesn’t need as many University educated people as it produces considering the number of people working outside the field they studied at University. Having grad educated librarians is just hubris.

        And it doesn’t need as many people in the labor force either considering we automated more since women started working so the need for them to do so would be less insofar as we didn’t expect young and middle aged white people to pay for decade long vacations for the old, the children of the underclass, subsidies for farmers, if corrupt agro businesses didn’t turn people into fat shits which increases medical costs etc. Modern societies need smart people, it just happens our smartest go to uni.

        Also, I agree, if I was a woman, I’d marry well after high school, have kids and then start my career when my kids are in high school.

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  41. on August 19, 2015 at 9:32 pm Each Pond Gone

    IQ is the mechanization of intelligence. The ancient Greeks, classically educated all around and more emotionally intelligent, would have scoffed at the idea, as well as the artificial system of agriculture on display today.

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  42. on August 19, 2015 at 10:16 pm migsflechaanon69

    forgive me for asking the obvious,
    Why does Bill & Melinda Gates spend all their money saving poor people in a different continent instead of breeding a group of super nerds to conquer the world?

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  43. on August 19, 2015 at 11:05 pm Beta boy

    Current paleo anthropological studies indicate human brain sizes have shrunk dramatically, by 10%, worldwide since the Stone Age. Scientists suggest that maybe it is because our bodies have gotten smaller and therefore we don’t need brains as large, but I have a hard time buying that given how supposedly humans are larger now than their historically established predecessors.
    I think that agriculture and civilization have reduced the procreative advantages of higher intelligence. In fact if you look at our current Western society, intelligence is actually dysgenic. If you are dumb you no longer starve or get eaten, you spend your time and energy having more kids that the rest of society helps you feed and house.
    Now if you’ll excuse me, I have to log off. My favorite TV show, “Ow, my Balls!” is about to come on.

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    • on August 20, 2015 at 11:16 am Father Thyme

      “agriculture and civilization have reduced…”

      Have reduced humankind to domesticated livestock. Yes, humans are as domesticated now as any other domesticated animal, with the loss of cranial size, resulting from their being “bred for docility and stupidity so that they could be controlled.”

      “Perhaps even more alarmingly, humans have also followed the trend for brain size. In the last 10,000 years, human cranial capacity has decreased by at least 8% (Ruff, et al., 1997).”

      http://rewild.com/anthropik/2007/07/rewilding-humans/

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  44. on August 19, 2015 at 11:09 pm Koanic

    Age-assortative mating lowers species lifespan and probably IQ.

    Universal monogamy is likewise bad. More males should fail.

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  45. on August 19, 2015 at 11:53 pm Hosswire

    Amorally speaking…. A genetically engineered disease that killed, say, 75% of those who were exposed to it would be a pretty effective reset button: culturally, genetically & environmentally.

    If an antidote or immunization were developed, it would presumably wind up being mostly administered to people living in 1st world countries. And even more presumably those with the most money & social status would get it first.

    So imagine two options: An earth with 15-20 billion of the poorest megabreeders…. OR an earth with 2 billion of the richest & smartest.

    With genetic manipulation technology becoming ever more available, I can easily imagine a nation or even a rogue individual making that choice for us all someday.

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    • on August 20, 2015 at 9:29 am Steve T.

      http://io9.com/5501565/extinction-events-that-almost-wiped-out-humans?dfp_pp_ab=on&dfp_desktop_three=on&utm_expid=66866090-43.E9Bjfd6NTuSlXJewu2e_Ig.2

      Population bottleneck, gents. Learn.

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  46. on August 20, 2015 at 12:35 am Moses

    Just a comment about the German study reporting that children made parents less happy.

    I waited plenty long to marry and have kids. Got 2 young ‘uns now. Yes, it completely changes your life. No more boozing or whoring or anything, really. I go straight home after work and weekends are pretty much all family and kid time.

    I gave up a LOT.

    That said I’ve found it’s worth 100x what I’ve lost. When I come home my little boy beams, shouts “Dad!” and runs over for me to pick him up. No feeling in the world like it.

    Of course, it helps if you choose your wife well…and I have, thank the Lord.

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  47. on August 20, 2015 at 1:06 am Joshua Sinistar

    The enemy is bringing about another Dark Age. Without Whites, this Dark Age will be permanent. I expect if they succeed in wiping the White population out, that they will quickly be exterminated by the stronger dark savages who have no compassion or honor. These noses have been spoiled living amongst Whites in which they have deluded themselves into believing non-White populations will work for them. I have no doubt that if they try to bribe them with Gold, the Dark Savages will simply kill them and take it.
    However, to preserve Western Civilization from annihilation, we should consider a back-up plan if we lose this War of Genocide. We should take steps to prepare for the collapse by seeding certain areas for our return in the event of a mass extinction event. There should be preparations for making underground and secret sites that preserve our knowledge and way of life for a rebirth after a collapse.
    It would be a prudent step to find a secret and safe location, perhaps in a space station where a chosen few advanced and genetically fit Whites can find safe harbor in the event of Apocalypse. It might even be necessary to create a mass extinction event to annihilate this enemy which would destroy the Earth and our way of life. There could be safe vaults created on the surface for their return after such a mass extinction event.
    Repopulating the Earth with Whites could be rather simple. Even today we have incubators that can take premies from the early second trimester and bring them to term. It is not far from the artificial insemination to that where there could be a vat grown infant. Growing babies in vats could quickly increase a small population to a viable genetic base to reclaim the planet. Women will probably be in short supply, but growing more fit females could afford the men with many wives to breed a new White Race to take over after the previously inferior generation has become extinct.

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  48. on August 20, 2015 at 1:32 am senseiern

    We did not evolve. We were created. The regression is a result of the curse of the original sin.

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    • on August 20, 2015 at 1:46 am Amasius

      Original Sin got replaced with White Privilege. Even smart black guys are picking up on it: http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/07/27/antiracism-our-flawed-new-religion.html

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    • on August 20, 2015 at 11:01 am Father Thyme

      That talking-snake fable in Genesis has been disproven by geneticists.

      Jerry Coyne, “Scientists Try to Reconcile Adam and Eve Story, Whiff. Again.” (New Republic, 2013)
      newrepublic.com/article/115759/adam-eve-theologians-try-reconcile-science-and-fail

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  49. on August 20, 2015 at 5:49 am Anonymous

    http://www.myjewishlearning.com/article/american-jewish-feminism-beginnings/

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  50. on August 20, 2015 at 6:27 am Anonymous

    Every single time.

    http://www.cnn.com/2015/08/12/opinions/smerconish-morton-downey-era/?iid=ob_homepage_featured_pool&iref=obnetwork

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  51. on August 20, 2015 at 6:43 am ve

    “There’s a theory floating around alt-blogs that human IQ in the developed world has been steadily decreasing since about the dawn of agriculture.”

    That theory is demonstrably false, at least up until the 2000’s. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flynn_effect. They test this, in part, by having modern people take old IQ tests and comparing them to the results of people who took them back when they were new– a pretty foolproof method, if you ask me. It also fits with common sense. There are good reasons to think that smarter people had more success at breeding at all points on the curve, thereby driving up the average. As CH has said repeatedly, women generally want men they view as more intelligent than themselves, and they hold the keys to the mating kingdom. The monkey wrench is birth control, but that is relatively recent and the effects might not be discernible for a few generations.

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    • on August 20, 2015 at 10:47 am Pwn

      There are explanations for that. Just because you read a couple of pages about iq on wiki doesn’t mean you understand anything.

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  52. on August 20, 2015 at 7:15 am anonymous

    What you need to understand, men, is that this is the message 24/7 on Disney:

    It’s an overused libtard word, but “literally”. The entire purpose of the Disney Channel as currently operated is to be an arm of the war on white girls (and, by extension, their fathers and brothers, families, civilization), by teaching them to see Africans as desirable and white boys as either nerds to be avoided or dangerous criminals to be avoided.

    As some have said, after you become a father and red pill-aware, you see this EVERYWHERE, all the time, in every single mainstream media image: TV, movies, big corporate commercials, superbowl halftimeshow, Disney movies, Cathedral multinational corporation webpages, government webpages, etc. I let my kids watch it only because I am there with them and I use it to teach them. I explain to them what YKW is trying to do, and they get it. I can tell they do get it and will always remember it, even when they go through “a stage” later in life.

    It’s just obvious.

    I was just trying to educate a 42 year old white man who is a buddy. I actually got pissed at him. If you are a 42 year old white man and father of two beautiful kids, and you are still a proud “liberal” or Democrat — wake up! Like some idiot said, “… if you are a liberal at 30 (or 40), you are not paying attention.”

    I even showed my daughters this:

    Now even some well-meaning red pill men might think “they are too young”. No. If you are a father of smart kids who has spent thousands of hours with them, you know that kids are VERY smart and able to learn (like a sponge) at age 6 through 10. Showing them this is no worse than the constant anti-white brainwashing attempt they get at public school. Before you judge me, I am unable to put them in private school or home school thanks to no-fault divorce. I am thankful that my ex wife, to her credit, is actually a bit “red pill” without even knowing it. She’s traditional (despite the divorce), doesn’t even let them watch TV, no Disney channel when they are with her.

    Dudes, I’m open to comments. I believe that if you have a 10 year old daughter, you can show her the miscegenation propaganda on TV and cartoons like the one I posted here. If you are red pill, you need to really swallow it. Do you believe we are right–that the things CH writes here are correct? I do.

    I also teach my kids that they will make their own decisions about what is right, and I don’t know all the answers, but the views expressed here are AT A MINIMUM worth considering, as opposed to immediately being written off as “conspiracy theory”. I mean, dude, I did not create that meme or any other meme that is on the internet. Google “jews invented feminism” or something similar. You will find a ton of material. I didn’t create it. We are not alone.

    Stereotypes happen because people notice repeated behavior over time. As CH has written, exceptions do not MAKE the rule; they prove it.

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  53. on August 20, 2015 at 7:33 am shartiste

    Some ungrounded speculation: Life finds a way. If we attempt to block reproduction, genetic mutations may emerge that subvert our attempts to block it. Stronger sperm, cerival mucus that is resistant to hormonal BC, whatever. If flushed through many, many, generations, hormonal birth control could tinker with the reproductive machinery itself. Hell, it could even “fork” the species so that some humans are incapable of reproducing with others. Okay, that’s kind of science fiction nerd shit. But when obstacles to reproduction emerge, even self-inflicted ones, the species adapts or dies.

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  54. on August 20, 2015 at 9:16 am James Blonde

    Well, it seems logical to me that average IQ would be dropping, since more and more of you white folks keep breeding with n*ggers, no?

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  55. on August 20, 2015 at 9:47 am Hugh Mann

    OT

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3204525/Swedish-woman-reveals-love-dearest-Anders-Breivik-written-150-letters-mass-murderer-wouldn-t-want-without.html

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hybristophilia

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  56. on August 20, 2015 at 10:31 am RE: Is The Evolution of Human Intelligence Self-Limiting? | Fapocalypse Now

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  57. on August 20, 2015 at 11:05 am Father Thyme

    Rust Cohle: “I think human consciousness was a tragic misstep in evolution.”

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    • on August 20, 2015 at 7:43 pm Ohiomega

      Hi, I’m Woody Harrelson. My job is to jut my chin out and look as though I’m constantly passing a kidney stone. That said, I’m still a much better actor than Matthew McConaughey.

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    • on August 21, 2015 at 11:23 am Jack Rackam

      Cohle. Sounds Catholic to me.

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  59. on August 20, 2015 at 12:21 pm Forsan

    It’s amusing that CH and the Catholic Church are on the same page with respect to birth control.

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  60. on August 20, 2015 at 12:34 pm ‘Reality’ Doug

    The analysis is incomplete. It’s not who is born: it’s who makes it to biological maturity. Trash ppl will always reproduce like flies. That is not a burden on the ecology if they die like flies too. The inversion of natural selection by government force via fiat money is more important than smart people not wanting ‘boredom’. That is true only for the political elite. For nearly all of the rest of us with smarts, having a child is a financial crisis. For garbage, the tax farm is a godsend.

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  61. on August 20, 2015 at 2:37 pm jdgalt

    Smart people don’t have fewer kids because of contraception. People in rich countries generally have fewer kids (than two centuries ago) because having kids is no longer the only way to get taken care of when you’re old (as it was before the welfare state). The reason it’s mostly the dumb people having kids is that the welfare system makes us subsidize them to have them.

    It’s time to cancel those subsidies and take the kids away from parents who can’t support them. Put them in foster care, where they’ll have a future other than living their whole lives on the dole.

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    • on August 20, 2015 at 7:34 pm James1

      Have them pick cotton.

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      • on August 21, 2015 at 8:30 am Greg Eliot

        I’m picking cotton out of the aspirin bottle as we speak.

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  62. on August 21, 2015 at 9:58 am James K

    Intelligence is only one of the factors responsible. Feminism is another.

    Part of the Narrative is the fact that birth rates in the Third World fall whenever there is an increase in the education and status of women. This prescription is considered a “smart” way to curb overpopulation while at the same time improving economic development.

    What the patronising racist Narrators overlook is that the same mechanism applies outside the Third World – to people like ourselves. Western European birth rates have fallen well below replacement levels. (The USA has not fared as badly.)

    It is hard to exaggerate the demographic consequences: they are similar to those of the Black Death, except that they are repeated every 25 years. We are living through a social collapse, but it usually goes unnoticed because it is happening in slow motion.

    Even without “asylum seekers”, we now have mass immigration to Europe of people who are willing do the work of those who were never born. Well before the end of this century, they will be the majority of Europeans.

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  63. on August 23, 2015 at 9:17 am Lem

    Urbanization/industrialization/city dwelling reduces the need for multiple children as they are a liability as they once were assets in agrarian societies. In an industrialized society, children become an expensive liability and thus there’s less incentive to bear many. Entitlement programs/socialism pays for the offsprings of the underclass. An equation for a future “Idiocracy.”

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  64. on August 23, 2015 at 8:27 pm Arch Hades

    How about do what the Nazis did and mass sterilize the inferiors. Freedom of choice for everyone definitely means dysgenia. The post WWII western world has been spiralling downward.

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  65. on August 24, 2015 at 10:23 am shartiste

    Its an easy bet that anything that makes us dumber makes us uglier as well. how to consume beauty is the favorite topic of men everywhere, how to create beauty for future generations is far less of a concern, because poolside. Well if Peter Frost’s theories are correct (and they probably are), regarding the beauty of white women, it would seem all the conditions necessary for higher female beauty have VANISHED.

    Dangers that limit the population of men? Mostly gone
    Biological constraints that force even alphas into monogamy? GONE
    Females being the chosen rather than the choosers? Yeah, right
    Isolated populations that don’t miscegnate with races less adapted for beauty? Open Borders!

    This is no problem for men living currently, abundance mentality motherfucker, but its a tragedy for the human race if the female beauty we currently enjoy is but a blip on the human experience. There is no realistic way to reverse the trend.

    You need constraints that force pairbonding and monogamy, otherwise populations devolve into polygyny, harems for alphas. The long-term result is Africa. The contraception cat is out of the bag, stats would probably bear out that the most beautiful women (young white women) are the most likely to use contraception. The only biological constraint that could shock the western world away from polygyny is a rampant STD.

    You need lots of men dying off via hunt, war and industry. The world has never been safer and more pussified for the average man to navigate in. Males still greatly outnumber women in untimely death, but there’s no shortage of desperate dick. Weirdo MRAs decry the lopsided death numbers, but they’re necessary. Ratios are precious, guys. Sperm outnumbers eggs by millions, unless you want to a peacock trying to impress a dull peahen, you need less men.

    Females no longer get chosen by a healthy, able male, the choose a rotating carousel of apex alphas.

    White populations are no longer isolated, to further each other’s beauty. The status that attracts women can be negotiated by any race, and just one misstep can eviscerate a female’s beauty genes. Women who mudshark are mostly the ugliest anyway, but a talented tenth of any race can get a white women, who will bear ruddy, less aesthetically pleasing children. Among upper classes, white women avoid the mudshark label by mixing with fiat-funded high status ashkenazum with unfortunate results. See Christie Brinkley and her daughter.

    K-selection has produced the female beauty you lust after and there’s no reason to believe our r-selected market can carry it for the long-term. As the most beautiful women contracept and gradually get absorbed into lesser gene pools, female beauty will become ever more scarce, and have ever more choice, which will pressure it to become even scarcer.

    What would a pro-beauty society look like?

    How to increase the population of beautiful women, while decreasing the population of thirsty slapdicks, increase the biological consequences of polygyny, and decrease the status of ugly races so they don’t get white poon? Tall order. I’m afraid the temporary reversal of nature that produced female beauty in limited populations may be as ephemeral as the typical female’s beauty window.

    The beauty we currently enjoy is being consumed thankfully but thoughtlessly, a lot of men had to die getting gored during a hunt, and a lot of women had to die lonely and barren because her eyes weren’t blue enough, her hair not silky enough, to produce the smorgasboard of tinder swipes that we see today. Next time you see a hot blond in a bar, pour out a little liquor for a nameless virgin scandanavian man who ventured out for a hunt and never made it back.

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  66. on August 24, 2015 at 10:29 am shartiste

    An article on “The Beauty Bubble”:

    http://www.socialmatter.net/2014/08/22/beauty-bubble/

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  67. on September 1, 2015 at 11:02 pm Lightning Round – 2015/09/02 | Free Northerner

    […] Is the evolution of human IQ self-limiting? […]

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