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Reader Mailbag: The Reverse Shocker

September 1, 2015 by CH

Email #1

Reader Salta experiences sky rockets in flight… posterior delight.

In other news…
My gf was blowing me and she playfully suggested sticking her finger up my asshole; I obviously refused. Is this a subtle, subconscious shit test checking for effeminateness?

Is your girlfriend Asian? Waifus for some reason love SURPRIZE BUTTPLAY. I don’t know if it’s because a lot of Asian women know that the prostate is an erogenous zone and capable of being stimulated during sex, or because Asian women eagerly take any opportunity to fly their kink flag and throw off the Chinese finger cuffs of the modest model minority.

Regardless, your gf’s peripatetic pointer is less a (literal) shit test of your effeminacy than it is a palimpsest of her twisted libido. It’s also quite possible that she discovered the “technique” watching porn or, less benignly, she picked it up from a former lover. Don’t overthink it. Just relax and let her introduce you the the homosex gateway plug.

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Email #2

Lurking Gorilla suffers a penalty of boyfrienddom that bedevils many men. (What a wonderful time the pre-phone era must have been for men, who could simply walk out of the prairie home to get away from the snapper chatter.)

Can I get your advice on something, Heartiste? You are my single most trusted source of reality-based insight on distaff matters. How do you deal with a girlfriend who wants to yap your ear off on the phone every night?

She gets hurt, upset and pissy when she doesn’t get to talk to me for 20-30 minutes on the phone each day. I see her 3-4 times a week, and the other nights she wants to talk, talk, talk, talk, despite the various texts I send her throughout the day and the strong hints that I dislike long talks on the phone. This is the only thing that annoys me about her. She’s otherwise not needy at all. Maybe I need to just sack up and get over it?

I feel your pain. Understand that the phone is a girlfriend’s means of testing your commitment to the relationship, and this is more true now that actually talking on the phone has largely been replaced by texting and ichatting.

She wants reassurance that you’ve got both feet in, and your willingness to stay on the line for a half hour every day is solid proof her program to beta-tize you is yielding fruit.

Funny thing, most men don’t like talking on the phone with girls because 1. most girls are fairly boring (talk about stuff that doesn’t interest men) and 2. we like to gaze at the girl’s pretty face and arousing body as she speaks, which fortifies us for the boredom about to commence.

This is why the PHONE GAB SHIT TEST is such a powerful tool to reassure (or warn) women about their boyfriends’ inclination to commit. If a man can stand to gab with his girl on the phone for a half hour every day without the motivating pleasure of her physical form to fill him with saintly patience, then she knows he is BREAKING BETA and well on the way to forswearing all alternative pussy for hers alone.

(For many reasons, including this one, texting has been a dating market boon for men.)

Anyhow, you need to train her like you would train a youthfully rambunctious and disobedient dog who nonetheless loves you deeply. (Read the seminal post on this topic.) You have to start taking steps away from the daily phone gab. Not all at once, mind. That might scare her into crazygirl theatrics or worse. Pull back gradually. Don’t answer her call once or twice a week. Call her back either much later or the next day. At first, have a crib sheet of excuses handy to get off the phone; later, as she’s getting accustomed to your early exits, just announce you have to go and leave it at that, promptly hanging up before she has a chance to protest.

Stay true to the woman-training formula: Punish immediately, reward intermittently. As you guide her to your preferred female behavior, get in the habit of cutting her off every time she starts to ramble, and once in a while compliment her for her brevity of communication.

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Email #3

A (non-technical) wounded warrior would like to know how best to frame his scar for maximum pussy-tingling impact.

I’ve got a question – I’ll donate $20 for your answer. I recently read your Wounded Warrior Post.

I’ve got a rather large scar on my stomach. I have it because I was born 89 days early, due to my intestines rupturing in the womb, though the doctors and my parents didn’t know at the time. My father made the decision to perform surgery on me as opposed to waiting it out seeing what happened.

They cut my mother open, took me out, cut me open, took some things out, put some things in, and sewed me back up. Because of the operation, I don’t have an inferior vena cava (but I have lots of smaller veins doing the same job).

Here’s a picture:

http://i.imgur.com/jwS9xj4.jpg?1

My question is – how would you tell the story of my scar?

Yeah, I’d forget about telling the real story. That will elicit sympathy moans from women, but not tingle moans.

Yet, you don’t want a backstory so outlandish that it conflicts with your personality. Plus, the bigger the lie and the more details you need command over, the harder it will be to keep the story straight in your head.

You need to maintain some time-appropriate distance between your injury and the present day. Don’t tell girls you got it last week. I’d probably try something like, “Skateboarding accident in high school, got it while showing off for a girl. Now I know better. I let girls show off for me.”

If you don’t want to lie, you can reframe the actual story into something less clinical. “I was a bad birth, caused my mother lots of pain as she says. I guess I haven’t changed all that much.”

I invite readers to suggest alternate stories.

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Email #4

This reader is ready for a safari.

i was wondering, If a white man made a dating profile on blackpeoplemeet.com would women get offended or would they be like “oh this guy doesn’t give a shit about the rules, that’s alpha as fuck tingles tingles tingles.

what do you think?

Both. Taking offense and tingles are mutually inclusive. Naturally, a lot of the black women will think you’re trolling, so you’ll need to drop more “sincerity” game than you would normally use on white chicks. For example, “If I can’t put a beer on a girl’s ass when she’s standing up I don’t wanna know her.”

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Email #5

H-man asks,

How do you deal with a woman that flirts with another man in your presence after you have entered comfort with her?

You aren’t in “comfort stage” if she’s flirting with another man.

I met this young girl – senior in college. I’m 26 and successful professional. I approached her and her friend early in the night and they joined me in a trivia team (it was trivia night at the bar, they didn’t know).

We had a great time and my girl started getting tipsy. The other friend left while I assured them both I’d take care of my girl. We spent time at the bar talking about all kinds of things. Her confusion with life and whatnot, she started tearing up a bit. I went in for the kiss and and she kissed but turned away but kept letting me reach her lips.

Sounds like you jumped into rapport too soon, before you had enough attraction. Did you qualify her, tease her, neg her, playfully push her away, flirt with other girls in her company?

When we transitioned to a different part of the bar she latched onto the first guy she saw. I’m way more attractive than him I know it was all from her making me jealous.

Well, maybe. It could also be that she found the other man more enticing and decided it was time to end the fun with you before your expectations got too high.

She started playing with his hair and he was surprised but just went with it. About 5 minutes of this nonsense I told I’m going home (I had mentioned it earlier, I was trying to pull her home). In her excitement playing with the other guy she said “okay go”. So I just left.

Wondering how to nip this type of behavior in the bud next time.

Ok, what we have here is one of two scenarios:

An immature attention whore who DOES like you and thinks that the way to arouse you to action is by making you jealous (women are dumb, #3,496 in a series) OR

A femme fatale who enjoyed your emotional tamponing and lustful stares but had no intention of following through with her putative end of the deal.

In future, you nip this behavior in the bud by avoiding premature capitulation to “talking about all kinds of things” with a girl before you have challenged her to prove her worth to you. Please consult the archives by doing a search for “game techniques”, “qualification”, “teasing”, and “push-pull”.

Also, don’t rely on drunkenness to gauge a girl’s attraction for you. Many girls will flirt ostentatiously when drunk, but will pull back when their flirting is reciprocated a little too strongly.

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Email #6

Benson wants to know how best to trim some hedges.

I would like some feedback on this approach.

I picked my brother up from the rental car place today. There was a cute blonde girl working the desk, so I decided to try for a number. She reciprocated my teasing while she filled out some paperwork, even upping the ante a little, I’d say.

Did you lap her flirting up like a hungry chump, or did you push her off a little and accuse her of watching too many rom-coms? A lot of men think that any flirting from a girl is pretext to flirt back with a hundred time the firepower, but flirting is really about engaging and disengaging in a symphony of plausible deniability.

So after she finished helping my brother, I pulled out my phone and said,

“Put your number in there.”

Her: “Why?”

“So I can text and call you.”

Her: “I have a boyfriend.”

“I won’t tell him.”

I’m not a fan of this reply. It puts frontmost in her mind the illicit nature of her interaction with you, which will trigger her ASD (anti-slut defense). Should’ve tried this instead.

Her: “But I will, and he’ll get mad that I’m texting you, and I don’t want him to get mad at you because you’re nice.”

“Call it planning for the future,” I said as I set my phone down in front of her and pointed at the key pad.

She stared at my phone for a second, look up and said, “I can’t, but I appreciate it.”

It’s sound a little dry when I type it out, but the exchange was playful. She also said most guys wouldn’t ask for a number, and it was cool that I tried. But I didn’t hit the right buttons, so tell me what I could have done better.

There are a lot of “I have a boyfriend” neutralizers of varying effectiveness. In your case, Benson, it seems like there just wasn’t sufficient time for an attraction to develop from your back-and-forth (and were her coworkers or other customers within earshot?) and, most importantly, she really could have had a boyfriend whom she loved, and her resistance was genuine.

At least she was nice in her rejection, assuring you that your romantic interest really did liven her day. A nice girl with empathy? Yeah, the odds went up that she really has a boyfriend she doesn’t want to leave.

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  1. on September 1, 2015 at 2:35 pm da GBFM lzzzzzzzlzlz (TM)

    OMG Heratsistests!!! DA same thing happened to da GBFMZ!!!! ALOMSTSSTA!!!

    In other news…
    “My gf was fisting her girfriend while blowing me as I ate her oteh rgirlfriend outz and she playfully suggested sticking her other fist up my asshole; I obviously refused. Is this a subtle, subconscious shit test checking for effeminateness?”

    lzozoozoz?

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    • on September 1, 2015 at 2:37 pm da GBFM lzzzzzzzlzlz (TM)

      OMEg hearstistestz!!! da same thingz happened to da GBFMZZ!!! almostszZZ!!!

      I would like some feedback on this approach.

      I picked my brother up from the rental car place today. There was a cute blonde girl working the desk, so I decided to try to get her to tke nudes of herself. She reciprocated my teasing while she filled out some paperwork, even upping the ante a little, I’d say.

      So after she finished helping my brother, I pulled out my phone and said,

      “Take a picture of your pussy with thislzlzlzozo.”

      Her: “Why?”

      GBFM: “So I don’t have to text you nor callz your azzz.”

      Her: “I have a boyfriend.”

      GBFM: “I’ll him.”

      I woudl post da picture here, but dis is a family site, and dalorck already bannded da gbfm anaywyas this weeekz! zlolzlzoz

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  2. on September 1, 2015 at 2:46 pm elmer

    Finger up the ass is whore move to get the john to ejaculate and finish the transaction.

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    • on September 1, 2015 at 2:53 pm elmer

      I mean I read that somewhere, not speaking from personal experience.

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      • on September 1, 2015 at 3:12 pm Glengarry

        DIRK JOHANSEN to the white courtesy telephone please.

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      • on September 1, 2015 at 3:20 pm Wrecked 'Em

        +1

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      • on September 1, 2015 at 4:18 pm elmer

        I have met Mr. Dirk Johansen in person. Helluva guy.

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    • on September 1, 2015 at 3:10 pm Carlos Danger

      You’ll bust a hard nut that way though.

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      • on September 1, 2015 at 4:16 pm elmer

        Well not to share my personal gradue but one time after some inadvertent pressure (she shifted her weight) on my perianeum during ejaculation caused me to leak a considerable amount of blood into my underwear. Doctor said it was merely a burst capillary in the blood-rich prostate area and nothing to be concerned about.

        Which reminds me of another funny story. After I got out of the Army I was asleep in my old bedroom at the folk’s house and my dad came in and pulled up a chair beside me. “Are you feeling ok?” he asked in his usual serious manner. I said yeah why and he said “Your mother found blood in your underwear”. I started laughing. They were rust stains from the hard water of the public laundromat I had been using. Somehow reacted to my urine drops and appeared to be blood from ulcerating penis sores. He left the room somberly.

        Was back east just this past weekend to visit Mom. She had compiled a scrapbook of my dad’s military service. She was surprised I had found photos on the “internet” of his crashed B-24 along with his flight crew. Among her photos one showed him partying in Germany with his CIA co-workers, with some revelations from my mom about his excessive drinking at the time. Later he had come up with an inexplicable wound to the head and the story she told was not plausible. Then a remarkable photo of him in natty suit flanked by a cadre of military officers. I have mentioned here before a story how he had dealt with Leon DeGrelle (aka “Juan Sanchez”) in Spain during the 1950s and had even dined at his house in which hung a portrait of Adolph Hitler.

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      • on September 1, 2015 at 5:50 pm Harland

        Degrelle, now there was a hardass.

        “Our foxholes ran down to the gray-green river, which flowed carelessly between banks of white sand. The woods, the steep bank and the path that led there were strewn with overturned carts, propaganda leaflets, and bags of mail.

        The letters, folded into triangles, written clumsily in pencil, nearly all ended with pious advice and appeals for divine protection.

        The soldiers’ letters showed us – as did everything in European Russia – that, if the peasantry had suffered from communism, it had not in any way been influenced intellectually. Those simple and primitive farmers wrote exactly the same letters as in the time of the patriarchs and the czars, blessing their families, talking about their villages and their isbas. Not one letter-writer mentioned the name of Stalin.

        These unfortunates, driven in herds by the commissars, did not even know why they were fighting and asked only to return to their homes. It was only the relentless domination of the secret police in Moscow and the brutal terrorism which its secret agents exercised at the front that kept the muzhiks in place, drowned them in rivers of semi-savage Asiatics, drove several millions of them to their deaths, and regimented and politically poisoned the survivors.”

        — Leon Degrelle, “Campaign in Russia”

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      • on September 1, 2015 at 7:15 pm elmer

        DeGrelle on the SS :

        http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v03/v03p441_Degrelle.html

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      • on September 1, 2015 at 11:51 pm Carlos Danger

        DeGrelle was a badass. I used to use his name as a handle for a while. Hitler told him when he awarded Degrelle his second Knights Cross with Swords, that if he had had a son, he would have wanted him to be like Degrelle. That whole book is a great read. Degrelle’s other stuff on politics is also very illuminating. These observations about the Soviet Regime are typical of observations made by first hand accounts.

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  5. on September 1, 2015 at 3:08 pm mendozatorres

    That first fucking sentence is gold! haha

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  6. on September 1, 2015 at 3:17 pm Glengarry

    Number 5: It honestly sounds like she got tired of you and blew you off. My guess is you moved to comfort while she still wanted the good time rollercoaster.

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  7. on September 1, 2015 at 3:19 pm Glengarry

    Number 4: Put in your picture with the sole caption “lightskinned lol” and see what happens

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    • on September 1, 2015 at 5:36 pm Hair Slicked Back With Swag So Fresh

      Hahahahaha! That’s fuckin’ gold!

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  8. on September 1, 2015 at 3:25 pm Glengarry

    Number 2: Sounds like your gf is doing the female hive mind sync with you.

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    • on September 1, 2015 at 7:03 pm Bobby Cuddlefuck aka The Hamster Whisperer

      Hahahahahha. Resistance is futile!!! Good spot, mate.

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    • on September 2, 2015 at 8:52 am Captain Obvious

      “BREAKING BETA” – Heartiste is correct about that. But what everyone seems to be missing is that female Smartphone & Scrotial Media ADDICTION is the great Black Swan [Taleb; cf Rumsfeld “Unknown Unknown”] event of our lifetimes – equivalent to the introduction of various chemical abortifacients, collectively known as “The Pill”, in our parents’ [or grandparents’] lifetimes.

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      • on September 2, 2015 at 8:55 am Captain Obvious

        In m0d above [why???], but I can tell from your anecdotes that most of you are not around womynz 24×7, and that you don’t see how completely and utterly ADDICTED they are to this stuff. And it hits all age groups: K-5, Middle School, Senior High School, Undergrad, and beyond. THEY CANNOT PUT THE D@MNED THINGS DOWN. It is “All PhagTime, all the Time”. Like nothing our species has ever before witnessed.

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      • on September 2, 2015 at 8:57 am PA

        Are they inwardly pleading for an alpha date to bark “put that thing away”?

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      • on September 2, 2015 at 9:07 am shartiste

        true. all the more reason that being laconic and not constantly digitally available will be attractive to younger women.

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      • on September 2, 2015 at 8:56 am Captain Obvious

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FaceTime

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      • on September 2, 2015 at 10:36 am Each Pond Gone

        The too Right for the Right and too Left for the Left are both starting to oppose all this stuff in a big way, for very different reasons.

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      • on September 2, 2015 at 10:38 am Each Pond Gone

        (tech-saturation)

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      • on September 2, 2015 at 8:59 am Captain Obvious

        To his credit, Bill O’Reilly is the only person who has spoken out about this:

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      • on September 2, 2015 at 12:43 pm Carlos Danger

        A millennial couple having a conversation consists of looking up every few minutes from their phones and smiling at one another then immediately returning to that damned phone. I’m a luddite here too.

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  9. on September 1, 2015 at 3:26 pm Benson

    CH:

    Did you lap her flirting up like a hungry chump, or did you push her off a little and accuse her of watching too many rom-coms?
    If anything, I was too cocky, at least that’s the feedback I got from other commenters here.

    There was no one else around. My retort to IHAB was miscalibrated in this context, but I usually assume that she doesn’t have a boyfriend, that it’s a token shit test. In the moment, “I won’t tell him” seemed like a good way to neutralize it. But live and learn.

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  10. on September 1, 2015 at 3:26 pm Anonymous

    So finger up the ass is ok, but what about her wanting to tie me up? I had this request recently and I refused. I’m pretty sure the 50 Shades of Grey thing was the girl being tied up and not the dude. When I suggested she be bound instead, she wasn’t so enthusiastic.

    [CH: had one girl ask to tie me up. i wouldn’t let her. ch don’t play those inverse sub-dom games.]

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    • on September 2, 2015 at 11:45 am pulsotic

      Ask to tie her up? WTF? While doin her doggy, pin her arms behind her back, then marvel at the mysteriousness of your belt finding it’s way around them.

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    • on September 2, 2015 at 4:51 pm Publius 2015

      fuck that. you don’t ask her. you just do it. she’ll love it. as pulsotic says, do it after you are already inside her. she will LOVE it. doesn’t have to be doggie. can be hands over the head, to the bed frame.

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  11. on September 1, 2015 at 3:28 pm Glengarry

    Number 6: That receptionist seems like a good, kind, naive girl, bless her.

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    • on September 1, 2015 at 7:02 pm 88

      yep. that’s the way a nice girl rejects someone.

      used to be how they all would do it. not the case anymore. that’s why her behavior stands out so much.

      it’s all sass and uppity sarcasm with most girls these days. and as we’ve discussed on here before, the rudest behavior is almost always from the ones who aren’t even that great looking.

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  12. on September 1, 2015 at 3:29 pm Omar

    The wounded warrior should just say he got stabbed at a bar fight and then had to have surgery for punctured intestines.

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    • on September 1, 2015 at 3:36 pm Glengarry

      I was going to suggest “motorcycle accident” but yours is better. He could also try “stabbed in prison” if he’s feeling adventurous. CHs suggestion for framing what actually happened sounds good too.

      The main thing is to not be weird or broken up about it. Do some jokes or stay cool and matter of fact and leave it at that.

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      • on September 1, 2015 at 3:37 pm Glengarry

        Chicks dig scars

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    • on September 1, 2015 at 5:42 pm anonymous

      He should look down slightly wince a lil, withdrawal a little and say…I can’t talk about it.

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  13. on September 1, 2015 at 3:30 pm Glengarry

    Number 1: She’s signaling “I’m butt-curious”. Take it where you will.

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    • on September 2, 2015 at 4:50 pm c_Reasoner

      Obviously, she is signaling what *she* wants.

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  14. on September 1, 2015 at 3:36 pm Dr. Giggles

    CH is straight on with the female Asian fetish for fingering your but hole. I had a friend told me the same story a decade ago. His kinky Vietnamese girlfriend kept trying to finger him multiple times and he kept swatting her hand away like it was a horsefly.

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  15. on September 1, 2015 at 3:44 pm Hackett To Bits

    re: #2, LG doesn’t state how long he’d been with her before he got to the point of seeking advice…let’s assume it’s the intense first 1-2 months of the relationship.

    My current gf and I have spoken on the phone maybe twice in six months together, but damn, she can marathon text on the days we’re not together. I knew to control this and set expectations: sign off first, contact her at not-completely-predictable times, text fewer times than she texts me, give shorter and terser texts; if it gets to be too much (while I’m trying to get on with the rest of my day to day existence!), I just don’t respond to her until the next morning. Admittedly, she’s less of an attention-seeker, but setting the tone early surely helps.

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  16. on September 1, 2015 at 3:46 pm Anon

    Butt licking or “rimming” as they call it on porn vids (not that I’m particularly into such things) seems ok as long you slap her or even go donkey punch (as they call it on porn v… ok i’m out)

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    • on September 1, 2015 at 9:17 pm Haven M.

      knew a natural that swore by it…getting his um uyh oil checked via the old lingua femme

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  17. on September 1, 2015 at 3:50 pm Anonymous

    Email 2- My old man accidentally handled a similar situation with my step mom really well. She kept saying she wanted him to call her when they were first dating, he told her he was too tired every time for a few weeks. So he finally relents and mid conversation on the phone, while she was talking, he falls asleep. She never asked him to call her again.

    You could probably start by shooting down a few requests with the too tired, maybe even get on the call and say “i’m fallin asleep we’ll talk later’ and when you think it’s time, you act like you fall asleep on her. She’ll probably think you think she’s boring as well, may work as a solid neg.

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  18. on September 1, 2015 at 3:52 pm Days of Broken Arrows

    Email #3: Say the scar is from a skateboarding or cycling accident. You fell off, took a massive tumble down a hill and some branches (or pipes) slashed open your stomach.

    The childhood illness routine will not do any good with women, at least not American ones. I was born with problematic lungs as a kid and they said I’d never get off meds. I ran (and otherwise exercised) my ass off, beat the odds by 95 percent according to my doc, and have been med free since ’03. I was justifiably proud of this accomplishment (and it was an accomplishment), but it earned me blank stares or outright derision from women — for reasons we all probably know.

    Just say your scar was some sort of sporting accident and it’s best if you date it to middle school, that way you can say your memory is fuzzy if women start asking their usual nonsensical questions.

    As Orwell showed in “1984,” women are incapable of having empathy unless it’s for a character on a screen.

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    • on September 1, 2015 at 8:04 pm Wald

      DOBA,

      If you get a moment, PM geomann on the RVF, por favor.

      Wald

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  19. on September 1, 2015 at 3:55 pm Sean Fielding

    No. 1: Many chicks want to play with the asshole AFTER you’ve led the way by playing with theirs. But I’ve never had a chick initiate ass-play.

    My take: CH Commandment 5 – The Golden Mean – is adaptable to buttsex as it is to all things. Give 2/3 back for whatever you get. If she’ll take a thumb in her ass, you’ll take a finger. If she wants to thumb you, she’d better reach for the lube, ’cause there’s an erect ‘thumb’ coming her way.

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    • on September 1, 2015 at 5:29 pm Sean Fielding

      Addendum: Two-thirds by approximate radius, not by cross-sectional area and most certainly not by volume. Heh.

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    • on September 2, 2015 at 11:20 am Anton

      My experience too.

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  20. on September 1, 2015 at 4:09 pm Anonymous

    im getting alot of post first date complete 180s from girls

    had a great date last week with a girl, she was all over me on the date and generally wouldnt take her hands of me. i walked her home and i went into her house to use the bathroom. we made out on the couch for abit before her housemate complained and i had to leave. she said as i was leaving that i can call over next week to watch a movie with her

    now she has gone cold by text

    this happens to me quite often, is the problem her buyers remorse from making out too much on dates even though we didnt have sex? its kinda frustrating as i am losing some really cute girls in ways like this

    [CH: don’t worry, every man experiences this once in a while. hell, i once had a two week stint when three women pulled out after a hot first date. try leaving them before the natural end of a date (when they expect you to leave), read up on anchoring, and text something random or funny as you’re walking away. otherwise, don’t fret about it too much, it’s a part of the sexual market cycle.]

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    • on September 1, 2015 at 5:51 pm Anonymous

      thanks for the advice ch

      off topic: the girl was a hottie and dressed like an italian model. we were standing at the bar with her all over me. there was a small dancefloor beside us where i noticed lots of cute girls assembling all giving me iois and checking me out, even had a girl bump her ass against mine from behind ha

      never felt the power of preselection as hard before

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    • on September 1, 2015 at 5:52 pm burke

      one other note

      “is the problem her buyers remorse from making out too much on dates even though we didnt have sex”

      if sex is an option you should be going for it. if you are making out a bunch and not going for the gold, she’ll smell beta. nice guy becomes ex guy real quick

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    • on September 1, 2015 at 7:08 pm Bobby Cuddlefuck aka The Hamster Whisperer

      If you dont fuck a girl that’s ready to go, she takes it as a rejection, no matter the circumstances. Just remember your ABCs, ALWAYS BE CLOSING!!!

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      • on September 2, 2015 at 8:13 am Anonymous

        I learned that the hard way many years ago. First time I was over at a girl’s apt after going out 3-4 times. We had never done anything more than kiss prior to that (yeah, I know…) It became apparent during the evening that she really wanted it, but I felt rushed and excused myself once it got too late. When I called the next day, I practically got frostbite over the phone, and things fell apart quickly after that. Lesson learned…

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    • on September 3, 2015 at 4:21 am Culum Struan

      Classic buyer’s remorse. Happens to all of us. I took advice from Kant and YaReally and it rarely happens anymore – just don’t get her all hot and bothered unless you know you can close. Look in YaReally’s archive for much more on this.

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  21. on September 1, 2015 at 4:10 pm ‘Reality’ Doug

    #3 Fear is the tingle killer. DGAF on steroids needed with low hand. If you ever explain truthfully, add, “I think it was an injury from a bar fight. You shoulda seen the other guy, beat up by a fetus. Total pussy. Most bullies are. I didn’t notice my guts were sticking out until I got my mom home and in bed.” Now you are the protector, provider, and emotional fortress. You are the winner that overcomes adversity. Any real stories with similar DHV would help.

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    • on September 1, 2015 at 4:25 pm anon

      Too many guys going with some ridiculous bar fight story for this.

      Turn the tables and escalate:

      “Sex injury”

      Leave it at that.

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      • on September 1, 2015 at 4:45 pm Anonymous

        I’m on board with this as well. I would go with “Penis reduction surgery” and leave it at that. It sexualizes the interaction and follows the rule “Never give her a straight answer.”

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  22. on September 1, 2015 at 4:23 pm burke

    #3 if you don’t want to lie you can honestly say it’s an old injury that eventually required surgery. makes it seem like it could have been at any time of your life, they won’t assume it was infancy

    you can tack on “i’m not that easy to kill, so if you take a shot at me make it count” or something to sexualize and get her thinking about mixing it up with you. i’m sure there’s more and better you can do with it but i think leave it simple and not get caught up in making up a story that might trip you up

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    • on September 1, 2015 at 5:03 pm Sean Fielding

      “not get caught up in making up a story that might trip you up”

      This. It’s always better to lie with the truth.

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  23. on September 1, 2015 at 4:28 pm I lie all the damn time

    #3 You threw yourself on top of a live grenade and saved the lives of the entire platoon. You survived because you have abs of steel.

    [CH: and you’re a racist bodybuilder. recline and sip your julep as panties cream.]

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    • on September 1, 2015 at 7:40 pm AS

      “recline and sip your julep as panties cream.”

      Yaaa. DOOOO EEETTTTTT!!!

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  24. on September 1, 2015 at 4:33 pm mendozatorres

    #3. You had a tapeworm that had been embedded after traveling in South America. At first, you felt great–thought you were Spider-man or some shit, then it grew and you needed surgery, but you said, “my body, my choice” and the doc said, “no slice, no life” and you took the plunge.

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  25. on September 1, 2015 at 5:11 pm Lurking_Gorilla

    Excellent response and great laughs from this truth bomb:

    > “Funny thing, most men don’t like talking on the phone with girls because 1. most girls are fairly boring (talk about stuff that doesn’t interest men) and 2. we like to gaze at the girl’s pretty face and arousing body as she speaks, which fortifies us for the boredom about to commence.”

    Re ass-play, I read this from another site recently, posting for your amusement:

    “BF takes ass obsession to another level and I feel like we ran out of new butt-things to try. Any ideas?

    “I have a huge ass…like disproportionately big on my otherwise thin frame. Because of this, 90% of the time I’m with my boyfriend, some or all of the focus will be on my ass. Of course we connect on many other levels and we’ve fallen deeply in love but I mean like…he is always grabbing/groping/slapping my ass. He’ll rim me for hours (legitimately 2/3 hours at a time) while we watch a movie or just lay around.

    “I’ve also suggested trying some things out on HIM but he is not into the idea at all…total turn off for him. Do any fellow ass lovers out there have any ideas? What butt-stuff would you LOVE for your SO to surprise you with?”

    Fucking hell. I can’t think of any chick hot enough to make me want to tongue her ass, though I’ve done it to a girlfriend once when drunk.

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  26. on September 1, 2015 at 5:28 pm Travis

    I keep seeing the advice in various posts to use bad grammar and no punctuation when texting with a girl. While I understand the reasoning behind it, most phones have auto-correct nowadays, don’t they? Whenever I try this, it’s actually quite a bit MORE work to try to mis-spell words and skip out on punctuation. And since most girls spend about 10x more time texting than the average guy, I’m assuming that they realize this, too. Any thoughts?

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    • on September 1, 2015 at 5:47 pm 88

      you can turn the auto-correct off on most phones.

      don’t tell your girl though. it’s handy if she has auto-correct on. that way if she’s emailing you instead of texting, you can tell if she’s using her phone or laptop. most people don’t use caps or punctuation much when they are emailing, texting, messaging a lot.

      so if she has all the right caps in her email even though she said she was at home doing nothing, you can probably bet she’s out somewhere and is sending the email from her phone instead.

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    • on September 1, 2015 at 5:49 pm shartiste

      the way to convey the proper devil-may-care attitude over text is to actually not give a shit. There isn’t a playbook. When in doubt, brevity.

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    • on September 1, 2015 at 7:11 pm Bobby Cuddlefuck aka The Hamster Whisperer

      My desire to lick a woman’s ass is directly correlated with my desire to date them regularly. Sadly, I have not been doing much ass licking lately.

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  27. on September 1, 2015 at 5:43 pm Harland

    Yeah, for some reason in China males expect their butthole to be serviced by prostitutes. There are girls out there who are reluctant to give blowjobs but have no problem licking the shit pathway. I’m sure there’s some cultural reason for it if you dig far enough but I’ve never bothered. You can say something stupid like “LOL stupid effeminate Chinese men” but that’s relatively recent, for centuries in China men have been men.

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    • on September 2, 2015 at 1:40 am Colonel Trautman

      I’ve been in Asia for years and had a few girls try to work with me like that. I just laughed and disallowed it. I guess there are nerves etc but there are also nerves on my feet and I don’t want to have my feet licked all night just because there are nerves available. My armpit is likely nervy too but I don’t want some girl sucking on it.

      Asia is a male-worship region of the world. It turns men into queers though it goes unacknowledged and remains psychologically buried. Their natural obedience to cultural roles has them go with women though they hate it subconsciously. The gayness comes out in rituals like having their assholes fondled or licked, having their nipples suckled on while they lay back with eyes closed, hands out of commission. Just so it’s clear; I mean the men want to have their nipples serviced and it’s apparently their very favorite thing. Almost every Asian girl I’ve been with tries to dive down and suck on my tits first thing but it’s not happening. But just knowing that that’s what the men want is just so freaking pitiful. So Asian male. Sooo Asian male. The nude Asian women goes mostly untouched, unlooked at and certainly unappreciated. Saturday night–time to get your tits sucked on boys! Work that inner Kate Upton alter ego, I guess.

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    • on September 2, 2015 at 12:25 pm Lurking_Gorilla

      “There are girls out there who are reluctant to give blowjobs but have no problem licking the shit pathway”

      Hah! Based on what? You heard this where? I can’t imagine any normal chick who would do that.

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      • on September 3, 2015 at 2:51 am Harland

        Based on years and years of living in China?

        Lots of girls either don’t want to give blowjobs, or when you can talk them into it, don’t have any idea what they’re doing.

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  28. on September 1, 2015 at 5:57 pm burke

    #1 i don’t have any butthole related advice other than keep it clean and leave it alone. no good can come of it

    but i don’t even care for female butthole. for fuck’s sake the pussy is right next-door there and there’s no feces waiting inside

    i’m old-fashioned that way i guess

    [CH: licking a girl’s asshole is too gross for words. i don’t understand guys who do this. i wouldn’t do it to a perfect 10 with a sphincter smooth as silk smelling like roses and tasting like a vintage single malt scotch whiskey.]

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    • on September 1, 2015 at 7:53 pm Anonymous

      @CH

      Prude!

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    • on September 2, 2015 at 1:02 am Glengarry

      The millennial habit of ass licking is why I no longer kiss on the mouth. It’s like getting a mouthful of dog tongue when you know where that’s been. Eugh.

      Or shaking hands with a homo. That hand was plunging up a pervert’s disease-riddled colon during lunch break. Maybe that’s the real reason why the Silicon Valley venture capitalists so often say ‘I don’t shake hands’. Sorry Tim, love your phone though. You didn’t touch it, did you?

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    • on September 6, 2015 at 2:25 am PWN

      lol@CH. Often I don’t feel like licking a girl’s pussy, let alone lick her ass. I ration my cunnilingi just like girls do with blowjobs. I rarely make girls cum from oral too and I noticed it helps me get my way in bed. My purpose with oral is to get girls turned on enough they’ll do whatever I want to get off. Men who don’t get anything they want from women in bed either:
      1)can’t make them cum at all
      2)don’t make them work for orgasms. Not only are they desperate to get off, but horniness makes them harder to gross out.

      Just like that rule about word ratios in texts, I try to maintain a 3 to 1 ratio for oral sex. 3 blowjobs for 1 pussy licking. I usually fail, but I’m still above 2 easily with most girls. I think the problem most men have is that they care too much about pleasing the girl in bed, which not only makes them anxious and consequently perform worse, but it makes the girl entitled too because she gets orgasms by just laying there. Extracting sexual favors from girls isn’t that hard if you’re detached from the whole thing.

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  29. on September 1, 2015 at 6:04 pm tteclod

    Re: Lurking Gorilla

    It took time, but I eventually got the wife to stop calling to talk. If she called, I’d just reciprocate with the minutiae of my day. Nobody really likes that.

    …also, the auto-reply on most mobile phones provides the excellent response: “Can’t talk now. What’s up?” Which provides a response just in case there’s a bona fide crisis to address. My canned response is that I don’t like answering from the toilet, shower, gym, office meeting, or while I’m already talking with my dad or my best friends – all of which would be rude, and all of which happen lots anyway.

    In any case, the reward ties to the stock CH explanation: “Don’t call: ask if you can come over. If I’ve got time, I’ll spend it with my hands on you – not on the phone.”

    Regarding Wounded Warrior / Birth Defect:

    The best scar stories change every time you tell them and don’t seem even slightly plausible, e.g.: “I got this in a cheese grater accident,” “damn cows…,” “You know the last words of a redneck, ‘hold my beer and watch this?’, we’ll…” and my favorite, “I have a mean cat.” The key to making this work is telling the girl a different story each time so she doesn’t believe any of them and thereby comprehends its not something you like to talk about, which is handy later when you need to “open up” and build the relationship wih a genuine show of trust. For bonus points, use one of your parents and get the parent to tell the story As a correction of your fibs.

    [CH: i was about to write (regarding the wounded warrior email) that going the opposite direction — outlandishly fake stories that he tells with a poker face — would be also a legit way to intro his scar to girls.]

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    • on September 2, 2015 at 8:46 am Anon

      This dude right here is winning!

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      • on September 2, 2015 at 4:36 pm tteclod

        One lives to serve.

        CH: I recommend a smirk… and changing the subject. My great-grandfather always insisted his hair flew away or got eaten by a cow or stolen by a squirrel… you get the idea.

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      • on September 2, 2015 at 5:30 pm tteclod

        PS: The very best part of Game, accessible to married men like Trump and me, is the FUN! I play with EVERYBODY: the GC’s subcontractors, the poor preacher assigned to me from my wife’s church, my daughter’s roommate, grocery cashiers – whoever. It’s all a FUN game I get to play with everybody I meet throughout my day.

        A HUGE part of that is not taking yourself or your situation more seriously that necessary. If you’re already here, then you’ve already demonstrated enough intelligence to make life in the USA easy. So, relax and play with the people around you. I suspect that’ll be the best preparation for any hard times ahead.

        That, and some women and children who love the man who always smiles.

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    • on September 6, 2015 at 2:29 am PWN

      I told a girl I have a knee scar from kicking a land mine from under a stroller full of babies and I had to reattach my leg back myself and I’m not that good of a surgeon so the scar remained. lol

      Reciprocating with verbiage is my strategy too. Then I accuse them that they don’t care by saying my ex used to be more empathetic or something along those lines. Drama isn’t as bad if you’re the one stirring shit up for your own amusement.

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  30. on September 1, 2015 at 6:05 pm walawala

    #1 Two Asian girls did this. Just go with the flow, it’s not a shit test. They’re just trying to turn you on. They usually asked: “Wanna try this?” Or “Do you like it?”

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  31. on September 1, 2015 at 6:11 pm anonymous

    The legacy of presenting a fake perfect upper middle class African family is, of course, very important to this Jew (regardless of inconvenient truth about Cosby):

    http://www.aol.com/article/2015/07/31/bill-cosby-producer-breaks-silence-the-legacy-of-the-show-is-v/21216692/?utm_source=zergnet.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=zergnet_631912&ncid=txtlnkusaolp00001361.

    This is my last comment here. I’m done. I can’t take it anymore. Thank you, CH, for the daily work fighting the idiots. I don’t know how you do it. I am heartened to know that so many others *do* understant that the International Jew is the World’s Foremost Problem, as Henry Ford warned 100 years ago. Besides CH, there are at least 1,000 others with youtube channels and websites that spread realtalk. I need not start my own blog or comment here; it does my personal health (physical, mental, sexual, career, social) no good.

    I am ready to join any real fights that need to be joined, but you guys have the internet(s) covered. There really is no more that needs to be said.

    Keep spreading the truth. I am disheartened to know that CH thas very few readers, in the grand scheme of things. (Love CH–no knock against the proprietors.) It is disheartening to know that so many white men (actual white men, not Jews) remain completely clueless. Looking at comments on “normal” websites like youtube shows it. There will be 2 or 3 with pseudonym accounts who get it, naming the Jew, but then 99% of people are morons who brainlessly spout the communist indictrination they received in school (a popular one, for example, is that white people were big bad meanies to the sainted “Native Americans”). There is praise of how great Jew Mart is because somebody got an AR15 there (no recognition that Jew Mart, Target, and 700 of the next biggest 700 businesses are all owned and run by Jews).

    I think CH’s recent post on whether white liberals are irredeemable was on point. These millenial faggots — sure, they were lied to their entire lives, but they also live on the internet 20 hours a day. Knowing that most white men start out naturally beta with women, how could so few have found this place?

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  32. on September 1, 2015 at 6:11 pm walawala

    #3 Wounded Warrior: Be playful and vague: “It’s hard for me to remember…it happened when I was young…before I was born…”

    Girl: “What?”

    You: Yah, in the womb….long story, one day i’ll tell you about it.

    Leave it at that.

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    • on September 1, 2015 at 7:05 pm Noel

      Based on my own experiences and failed attempts at wounded warrior game, I agree with walawala. Vague, laconic, but with an opening for her to move forward if she really wants to find out.

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      • on September 1, 2015 at 7:16 pm walawala

        Wounded Warrior: “Ever had an out of body experience?”

        Girl: No what?

        You: “I have…and I have the scars to prove it…”

        Girl: hahahh what?

        You: One day if you’ behave I’ll show you….

        Then you can be totally honest about that modern medical miracle and it has that bizarre alien story.

        When she looks at disbelief, you can say: “Yah my intestines burst…didn’t have the stomach for being a fetus….”

        Take it in any direction you want from there. Do so in a dry, playful voice, looking her directly in the eye…time out the story as I outline above. She’ll be laughing nervously and then when the REAL story comes out, you’ve alluded to it in an interesting way.

        I can imagine for you it would be quite painful or perhaps intimate. But if you can make something this bizarre a funny story you’ll demonstrate a resilience that girls look up to.

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    • on September 1, 2015 at 7:31 pm Noel

      Walawala — nice opener question for segue to wound….though i like the “if you’re dying to know, i’ll tell you someday” is nice if she’s the nosy one who brings it up first….recently when sexually uninteresting people ask, i just nod my head and let them think whatever [men, geriatric women, little children etc.]…

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    • on September 2, 2015 at 12:12 pm Damn Crackers

      #3 “Who doesn’t like fireworks?”

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  33. on September 1, 2015 at 6:23 pm itsjx

    Reblogged this on XWorkx.

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  34. on September 1, 2015 at 6:32 pm Reader Mailbag: The Reverse Shocker | Reaction Times

    […] Source: Heartiste […]

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  35. on September 1, 2015 at 7:09 pm Noel

    To CH & readers:

    Tangential question about “social etiquette” in the workplace (more suitable to the ‘1000 yard shiv’ post, but internet down)–

    Context/background: in San Francisco. Office a SWPL mecca. One co-worker in particular – unmarried, childless, 37-38 y.o., BUT slender/petite, etc. Not a bad face. When made up can deceive many a beta but would be an alpha fling given age /post-wall and general ditziness. But overall a very nice, warm, friendly woman – at least in the office no drama, no outbursts, no tankgrll / feminist propaganda, no pent-up bitterness. She so not SWPL. No Trader Joes hummus stuff. Upon appearance looks like the typical attractive Latina in the tight skirt. But she’s a Flip.

    No intention of hitting on her. Work & age-related reasons.

    She definitely seems the type to have ridden the carousel in her twenties. She was briefly involved with making clubby music albums.

    She’s a self-proclaimed cougar – says she’s attracted ONLY to younger men. Her current bf is 30, Hispanic, and faux-mohawked with a tat.

    She’s also loudly proclaimed in the office that she’s baby-crazy. Telling people she’s obsessed with baby names, wanting a child, etc. I think one time she wanted to name some inanimate object her child etc.

    Anyway –
    Ex-coworker drops by to visit last friday. Brings with him his 13-month son. NOTE: this ex-coworker’s tenure predates the arrival of the baby crazy girl above. So it’s the first time these two have ever met. They’re otherwise strangers.

    In the conference room: Slaps on the back, hey what’s up long time no hear, what have you been up to, etc. go around.

    I say a brief hello and return to work because: 1. I’m not the boss & 2: I’ve got actual work to do at work.

    This female coworker stays the entire time in the conference room, listening to this ex coworker whom she’s just met talk and catch up for an hour, sitting the closest to him and the child, staring and transfixed. She later brings the little boy a plush animal to play and then later on carries him about in her arms.
    Because my desk is just outside the conference room I witness this entire series of events unfold.

    The father doesn’t object. I suppose my SWPL enclave might flip out if he freaked out, who knows. Plus the stranger is a woman, right? Some corollary to the fundamental premise…? Because if it were a strange man transfixed and holding the baby…..

    I did briefly worry that baby-crazy girl wouldn’t give back the boy. Seriously.
    No one except me noticed this – game principles abounding…

    My question is: is it me? Or is her behavior socially inappropriate? Does it violate some etiquette? She doesn’t know this old coworker at all. Never worked with him. And now she’s going around carrying the baby and acting out her frustrated/thwarted maternal instincts?

    I feel perhaps I’m alone in this but I thought it was an embarrassing spectacle. I felt on her behalf pathetic and desperate.

    N.B.: I don’t have anything against this woman – she’s nice and warm and otherwise an oasis in the feminist/SWPL/transgender etc. capital of the world.

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    • on September 4, 2015 at 1:30 pm Diversity Is Good

      Noel, she’s a woman, post wall to be sure but she’s still female. Women as a rule like babies, because that’s what their genes tell them to do. It’s totallly normal.

      It’s not all that unusual for women to trot out IOI’s on men who are carrying babies / toddlers around, either. Preselection at work.

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  36. on September 1, 2015 at 7:24 pm Ripp

    Email #3:

    her “what happened with your scar.”

    reply: “war” change subject

    let her hamster run and run and keep deflecting and changing the subject.

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    • on September 2, 2015 at 2:30 am walawala

      @Ripp problem here is that at some point the “war” story is fake he ruins his credibility. There are numerous cases of fake soliders telling fake war stories which is an insult the true warriors who were there. My response above is more aligned with the truth but presented in such a vague, almost irreverent way that it will immediately spark interest and be authentic. The dude’s story is amazing in itself.

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    • on September 5, 2015 at 5:54 pm Ripp

      depends on the LTR viability of the girl. If its just an short term thing its fine.

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  37. on September 1, 2015 at 7:25 pm AlphaX

    “I’ve got a rather large scar on my stomach. I have it because I was born 89 days early, due to my intestines rupturing in the womb…”

    I have a lot of scars… and one wicked scar that runs the length of the back of my head plus several facial scars.

    I always use mystery.

    http://www.pipubs.com/what-do-you-say-about-that-wicked-scar-on-your-head/

    The article: ” I know girls judge a man by his character more than his looks, and that long ugly scar just demonstrates my strength of character. And when people ask – all people including men – where I got the scar, I simply respond that I was young, and made a poor decision. Only the doctor, a couple of nurses, my mom and a couple of friends of 20 years know what happened. I simply will not tell the story, no matter how much they beg.”

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    • on September 1, 2015 at 8:09 pm elmer

      You were struck by a Jart?

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  38. on September 1, 2015 at 7:52 pm Bruno

    [ABOUT THE SCAR]

    You don’t need to explain anything in the early stages of your relationships. Keep the mystery, but make it look like there’s a DHV story behind it. If it’s just a fling, I’d go with:

    > “Long story, let’s just say I was young and reckless… I’ll tell you about it some other time.” — Then of course you never do tell the story.

    If it is a girl you really care about, then tell the truth – but stylize it. I’m a funny guy, so I’d say something like:

    > “After 6 months inside my mom’s belly I was like ‘Ok, I’m done with this. Coming through!’ Turns out it was not so simple… Long story short, I’m a cyborg from the waist down. Yes, including that. That’s why I’m so good at it.”

    Then, after the giggles and teasing, I would really say what happened – if she was a girlfriend.

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  39. on September 1, 2015 at 7:57 pm Vagina dominator

    From the today’s Sydney Morning Herald website, “Daily life” section. Research shows that six out of eight headlines hate white male goyim.

    http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=2l8u5w2&s=8#.VeZSlPB8ozx

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    • on September 1, 2015 at 10:00 pm TangPolice

      i’ll bet if someone were to do research on this with left leaning rags, it’d come close to those figures. VICE is at least 80% white male cis hetro hate.

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  40. on September 1, 2015 at 9:27 pm Dr. Giggles

    Emailer#3 you have an awesome opportunity with that scar. Remember the Dark Knight? Throughout the whole movie the Joker makes up different stories about how he got his “Glasgow Smile”. The way he tells the story would leaves you captivated, but in the back of your mind you know he is lying. This adds an aura of mystery, danger and even playfulness to Heath ledger’s Joker. Those three attributes are chick crack and makes you look like a genuine bad boy.

    As an exercise I suggest that you make up a few stories and act them out while channeling the Jokers devil may care attitude in the movie.

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    • on September 1, 2015 at 11:41 pm anonymous

      Why so serious?

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  41. on September 1, 2015 at 9:43 pm TangPolice

    re: reverse shocker (how i laughed)

    I feel that ‘pegging’ is –like many things girl-related– a trend. It started in a film, then cosmopolitan, then the feminist blogs got wind of it and then they wrote about it quite a bit to convince themselves they were 1. empowered and 2. sexy (they always need to constantly convince themselves of those two things – why is that!?!)

    I feel some girls do it as a power thing.
    And some girls do it because they really want to please.
    Some girls, i feel, just do it now that Jizzabel says it’s what you should do.

    You’ll be able to tell which category she’s in long before she ever drops the paw.

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  42. on September 1, 2015 at 9:51 pm Niall

    My Korean gf sometimes goes for my bunghollzlz (reward sparingly) but i swat her hand away and push her head down harder on my shaft (punish immediately).

    A Taiwanese friend of mine told me she loved going down on her Chinese bf’s cornhole. She’s never looked the same to me since.

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    • on September 2, 2015 at 1:44 am Colonel Trautman

      It’s because that’s what faggot Asian males want. They’re with a nude Asian woman and their mind actually goes there. They actually want their assholes and nipples played with in lieu of touching the ‘dirty’ woman.

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  43. on September 1, 2015 at 9:55 pm Henry himbeere

    So interesting you talk of alpha and beta. I’m 100% sure I’d be alpha in relationship (what they used to just call being a/the man, wearing the pants). I also know I’m beta in seeking one, sometimes. Often. In their perception at least. Here back in the ussa. Yeah. Yeah. No matter how much I read and think, you, doc love, I have very hard time remembering/playing games/ whatever. Oh I can do it so well when they participate. Maybe I secretly just don’t live or respect most of the women here inflexible takers. Or is that male rationalization? We men rationalize.. A lot! Well 90% of us. Well sex despite what you say, I think just is sex, fading. I mean one night stands. Long term is only way by definition to solve long term problems. Isn’t that the white say anyway? It only takes one! To paraphrase Shakespeare, this man is beta when he woos, alpha when he gets a hold of.

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  44. on September 1, 2015 at 10:52 pm Anonymous

    Ha, Kermit trades up.

    http://www.people.com/article/muppets-kermit-frog-new-girlfriend-miss-piggy-break-up

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  45. on September 1, 2015 at 11:16 pm Danindc

    That motherfucker was bitten by a great white

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  46. on September 2, 2015 at 1:54 am avenroad

    “You know that phrase, ‘I nearly bust a gut laughing’? Well…”

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  47. on September 2, 2015 at 5:03 am Culum Struan

    YaReally, Sentient, HABD, Wala et al

    I was looking around PUAZone a bit and found the most fascinating post here about the different sexual archetypes in women:

    http://www.pua-zone.com/showthread.php?13845-Woman-s-3-Fantasy-Archetypes-(Attn-Jimmy-Chonga)

    He says all women are a blend of the three, but usually have a primary type and while general Game advice will work on all, tailoring the seduction to each type will produce dramatic sexual results – he’s really good at explaining each type and giving examples from his own lay reports.

    It’s a really interesting mental model – the “Overcome with Passion” type, the “Pretty Princess” etc. The other posts of that poster are also worth reading.

    I’m going back through some of my recent dates and trying to slot the girls in. For eg, that 19 year old I banged but had bad sex with recently and I posted about – it looks like she’s a classic Overcome with Passion girl..hence all the banter/shit tests..

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    • on September 2, 2015 at 11:40 am Sentient

      Yeah – I love Thin Man’s stuff, and PureEvil as well on that site [both more mature posters in the US]. My experience aligns with his, usually one thing that really drives the girl more than other stuff… The key to decoding is listening to what they say, it’s usually projection. Like your bad experience girl – she kept talking about dominance stuff – she was one who wanted to be overcome.

      Good stuff.

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    • on September 2, 2015 at 11:52 am Sentient

      and you may have seen in a lot of my posts “be the fantasy guy”… this is what it’s about, connecting with their fantasy of what they want you to be. A woman’s biggest sex organ is her mind, own that the rest will follow.

      The key is being able to deliver the fantasy aspect from your frame, and not be supplicating, obsequious etc. Just key in on some of her language and play into that from your frame. What’s hottest for her is not that she has sex, that is a given for women, it’s that she is having sex with a guy she thinks is better than her, above her…

      and another thing, most women are a combination of the different types (and there may be other types) which may change during the course of the seduction (in a SNL context)

      This is also a dynamic that makes SNL game so powerful, you have the ability to literally sweep them off of their feet in a very short amount of time, and that creates a reinforcing loop i.e. passion growing creating more passion creating justification for the passion to keep growing. In a way it’s easier to do during a SNL than over a few dates spread out over a few weeks – keep the fire stoked, the mystery and the fantasy. There is just a much smaller margin for error in SNL game, which hones your skills in any event.

      Have fun!

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      • on September 3, 2015 at 12:59 pm newlyaloof

        @Sentient, I read Thin Man. He seems to have his shite together quite well and seems to be killin’ it. I’ve heard about that site, but never read. Will do so now.

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    • on September 2, 2015 at 9:23 pm walawala

      @Culum…. A line I developed and encourage you all to try is: “What was your favorite part of 50 Shades of Grey?”

      This sexualizes, it buries that sexualization in a legitimate question about a real mainstream movie…her reaction is always very telling. I’ve heard all sorts of responses to this.

      Once in a while I’ll get “I didn’t see it …” to which I reply “LIAR!”

      It’s great fun. I usually inject this when we do the Questions Game or if she starts to talk about movies or popular culture.

      You can also take this question in any direction: I sometimes begin the reference to 9 1/2 Weeks and talk erotic cinema. Or I can make it funny.

      Many dudes here are struggling with a quick, easy way to sexualize. The one thing you have to do is watch the movie, then be prepared to offer a critique of some kind. I usually say something like “Christian Grey was too needy wasn’t he?” that often gets the girl talking in a certain direction.

      It’s a simple conversation starter, neg generator, DHV demonstrator that so far hasn’t backfired.

      If the girl gets offended in any way you can simply hold your frame and say “It was the biggest selling book of all time…next to Harry Potter…and we’re NOT going to talk about Harry Potter…” etc.

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      • on September 3, 2015 at 4:01 am Culum Struan

        Good one Wala – I’m trying that one my next date.

        Sentient yeah- I don’t think women are limited to those three archetypes he mentions (although many of them will be one of those) – the real takeaway is to be able to key into what she wants sexually by reading her signs and then giving her that.

        Like for example, it never clicked to me that my 19 year old from a few weeks ago was the “Overcome with Passion” type until I read his post – I didn’t realize the message she was sending by talking about dominance or simply stuff like not moving till I physically pulled her from the sofa (she even said “make me get up” at one point) to go to the bedroom etc.

        I’m not strong enough (yet), but if I had been, I bet she’d have responded really well to being picked up, tossed over my shoulder and carried to the bedroom..

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  48. on September 2, 2015 at 5:57 am Criticas

    Explain a cool scar? Leave ’em wondering:

    “Knitting Accident”

    “I ran with scissors.”

    “Worst blowjob ever”.

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    • on September 2, 2015 at 11:50 am Anonymous

      “worst”?

      wouldn’t “best” work better?

      [CH: i had a buddy who would agree and amplify women’s compliments to him all the time. If a girl said he was good at something, he would reply, “Good? I’m GREAT!” with a cheesy grin.]

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    • on September 2, 2015 at 11:54 am The Burninator

      “I’m pool boy…”

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  49. on September 2, 2015 at 6:52 am Jason773

    So weird. I had the exact same “SURPRISE finger up the ass” trick from an Asian girl in college. I like to get weird with my ladies so it was cool, but my buddy, in the other room with his own Asian chick, freaked the fuck out when she did it to him. It was like the two Asian girls, who were friends, had it all planned out and coordinated it for synchronized timing.

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    • on September 2, 2015 at 7:20 am shartiste

      I’ve legit never heard of this apparently common asian assplay fetish. So weird and hilarious.

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  50. on September 2, 2015 at 8:37 am Uncharted

    For #1, on a third date (also third bang) with a girl, she mentioned while drunk that she tries this with every guy to see their reaction. I gave a look of disgust and told her she was a weirdo. She qualified the rest of the night with how she really doesn’t like “weird things in bed”.

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    • on September 2, 2015 at 2:37 pm Anton

      She was lying…

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  51. on September 2, 2015 at 8:43 am Johannes BB

    Me scar tale: (before you show the scar)
    Tell you got a massive hernia when you lifted a container which has fallen over a little child and his puppy both of them survive by your intervention. Then say: all she said, the doctor, was that I won’t ever eat spicy food again, but that me sexual arousal was unbroken or even strengthened. You want to see it??

    Then take her hand and lift your shirt with it(optional)

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  52. on September 2, 2015 at 9:05 am shartiste

    O/T: I like Westhunt and Razib as much as the next altrighter, but whats with their refusal to accept that white skin is sexually selected (esp. male -> female selection in high paternal investment conditions)? They keep refuting the other theories, its not vitamin D, not immune, not an agricultural development, its gotta be “something else” they say, who knows! Gee, I really really wonder what that can be? Skin color is sexually dimorphic (women of all races are lighter), novel hair and eye colors are more common in women than men, but what does it all MEAN, Basil? Its just so obvious, why is Peter Frost the only guy with any academic cred saying it? Are these “realtalkers” afraid of the intersection of race and the one market that rules them all, or they just so sperging out?

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  53. on September 2, 2015 at 9:31 am Rick

    Field Report.
    This one is in relation to the ‘Buying a box of condoms game’ post awhile back.

    So i buy a box of condoms a couple of weeks ago from a small local drug store. The lady was an old hag so i didnt bother practising any game on her of course..just bought them and left.
    At home, the date i finally got over here to my bed picked up the box and noticed they were expiring Sept 2015. (Stupid little store..probably hasnt had a guy come in and buy a box of condoms since the Reagan era).
    She didnt care about that either, and i ended up using two of them with her..good times..smily face..
    Today i returned to that store to buy something and as i came up to the counter there was 2 older married women there, then this good looking chick about 30 (who was actually the manager of the place) shows up nearby.
    So I comment just loud enough so she can hear too, “Yeah so i bought a box of condoms here last week or so, and the box says they expire this month/year.” The words .box of condoms’ immediately got her attention.
    The two both look at her and she says to me “Just bring them back and we will exchange them for you.”
    I tell her i have already used two of them. Now i see her mind trying to figure out store policy for this, and one of the married ladies says, “Hmm, a sticky situation..” The two married ladies giggle.
    (Fuckin old cougar thinking of my cum dripping all over her fingers)
    The manager chick finally says she will take the remainder back and exchange them. And i look at her directly and say “Ok great. I didnt want to make anyone pregnant.” She gives me a IOI look before i leave.

    So now i am looking forward to seeing that women soon, making sure she will be the one i deal with. And i was thinking of using one line that i really liked that someone thought up.. the one where you rip off a piece of the box and ask her to write her number on it. Any advise on the approach that day?
    For fun i asked the chick i had here if a guy ever did that to her would she like it? And she said she would probably chuck the paper in his face. But you know — not what they say…

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  54. on September 2, 2015 at 10:30 am Ferryman

    I find myself rewatching this whenever I’m at the risk of being ljbf’ed by a girl I fancy.

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  55. on September 2, 2015 at 10:37 am The Burninator

    CH, word of warning, it looks like somebody is doing a massive DDoS attack on ROK, intentionally. I’ve heard rumors that Roosh tweeted that he was getting threats to shut down the site, two days ago, and now today it’s been down for hours (with DDoS checking popping up the few times it tried to re-ignite). Don’t know if it’s confined to just his site, or the manosphere in general. Just letting you know.

    [CH: one reason not to move to self-hosting is to avoid DDoS attacks like this latest one against ROK. i figure a large hosting service like wordpress is less vulnerable to DDos, but I’m not sure.]

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  56. on September 2, 2015 at 12:32 pm Noel

    The more I’m reading of alternative stories to one’s scars…i think the keep it short, sweet, and vague works best [some version of CH’s & walawala’s & a “I’d rather not go into it” reply…]…long stories, unless done mystery-style with ups & downs and lots of narrative interest, seem to drain all erotic desire.

    [CH: yes, this is true for a lot of aspects of seduction. shorter is almost always sweeter. save the long DHV stories for a second date (or the fourth hour after meeting.]

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  57. on September 2, 2015 at 2:17 pm Shirdal

    Her: “I have a boyfriend”.
    Me: (with a smirk) “Congratulations”

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  58. on September 2, 2015 at 4:14 pm c_Reasoner

    Off topic, or How Betas Are Funny (In All the Wrong Ways):
    http://www.theonion.com/article/area-mans-intelligence-probably-just-too-intimidat-33916

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  59. on September 3, 2015 at 1:39 am Nicole

    On the butt stuff, yes it is usually a test to see if you’re up for bottoming and related male sub activities. Unless you want to share, don’t go there, even if you like it. Your primary female partner should never know that you have any sub tendencies. This is what hoes and sidechicks are for.

    It will ruin your main relationship.

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  60. on September 7, 2015 at 8:01 pm zaqan

    “(For many reasons, including this one, texting has been a dating market boon for men.)”

    So is the to imply the proprietors stick strictly to texting and rarely or never call for a date? The topic is heavily debated on RVF, and I think Ive gotten better results from calling.

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  61. on September 7, 2015 at 8:21 pm zaqan

    For the scar, I suggest the classic “Its complicated” or “Its a long story…” and then change subject.

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