A reader alerted the CH audience to an excellent write-up by a seduction forum member, The Thin Man, titled “Woman’s 3 Fantasy Archetypes“. The archetypes the author describes specifically refer to “fantasy sexual scenarios”, but they sound similar to the femme fatale personality archetypes discussed here at the Chateau.
By understanding women’s archetypical sexual fantasies, and by identifying which fantasy animates a particular woman, a man can tailor his seduction sales pitch to better match a woman’s deepest desires.
Archetype 1) Pretty Pretty Princess- In the PPP scenario the woman’s desire is to be transformed by her sexual connection to a powerful man. The most common and foundational version of this sexual scenario is the Cinderella Fairy Tail. Cinderella is a scullery maid whose inner secret class and beauty are revealed through a super natural Fairy God Mother make over and a romantic evening with a good looking, rich and powerful man… Kissing and magic shoe shopping transform her into a princess.
The transformative archetype is why the part of Pretty Woman where Richard Gere buys the dresses for Julia Roberts, is so sexy to women… She is transformed from a prostitute, with a secret heart of gold, into an elegant socialite, who is so exquisitely sensitive that she cries at Italian operas! […]
The PPP is most attracted to highly self-developed men, because she literally wants to lose herself in your world. If she is whisked away on your horse, motorcycle, pirate ship, or limo… She must put herself in your hands, change her cloths hair and manners to match your world… This mean what happens next is up to you, she is rendered open and compliant. Because the Pretty Princes is aroused by the emotional rush of the giving over her self-transformation to a man, she is the most vulnerable of the three archetypes…The Princes does not risk her body, she risks her identity.
The PPP female fantasy archetype is held by women who most desire extreme sexual/personality polarity in their relatonships. They want to feel 100% woman with a man, and to achieve this they will execute a few feints in the opposite direction to test your fortitude to stay in the hunt and bend her to your will. Leading, giving directions, making demands, creating scenarios, emphasizing sex differences, and role playing are all effective seduction and romance techniques on the PPP girl.
The Amazonian Alpha and The Gold-digger are the two types of women most susceptible to cultivating PPP fantasies. These two female archetypes, each strong in their very non-feminist, but exceedingly feminine ways, are the women who crave a man stronger than them with whom they can finally feel 100% the woman they want to be.
Archetype 2 Over Come with Passion- The 3 sexist words in the English language to an OCP are… It Just Happened… Passion women have a lot to say and unlike the girly purr of a Pretty Princes, it tends to be pretty declarative, “We just could not help ourselves and tore each other’s cloths off… We were like animals…I could not help it… I never do anything like this…We were in public… Other people might have seen… We are practically strangers… Oh god this is so fucking HOT…”
Passion woman require the strongest masculine frame from you because their sexual scenario is about letting go of their inhibitions, they are aroused by transgression and risk. She is a little frightened by the intensity of her own desire and what she might do to satisfy it. She needs to trust you with that. This is why the OCP seduction is all about passing shit tests and trading barbed comments. Each time she tests your frame and it stands up, it increases the sexual tension. She needs a man that can handle her emotion/passion who is strong and trustworthy enough for her to be able to let go of her controlled social veneer and let her true animalistic passion out.
The OCP fantasy girl is likely an Eternal Ingenue. This type is charming, psychologically manipulative, often quite pretty, and occasionally slutty (while expertly concealing her sluttiness to less experienced men). The Thin Man is right about this girl: She is a master of the shit test and beta bait, and won’t relent qualifying you, which will usually trip up betas. The Eternal Ingenue is always seeking the “perfect romance”, and this is why she exhibits a predilection for fantasies involving passionate escalation that fills her with hope her search for the ideal lover could be over.
If you balk at grabbing girls and violently kissing them at unauthorized moments, then you will fail with the OCP ingenue.
Archetype 3 Submission Fantasy- Many woman have a variety of submissive fantasy scenarios, but whether they are imagining bondage, rape, coercion, discipline, being a pet animal, or spanked like a naughty school girl, all submissive fantasy has one thing in common. She is not in charge… And so does not have to be responsible for the sex act… I am not a dirty like that, he made me do it… I was tied up…and uh… I loved it.
Submission women have found a loop hole that removes their ASD. How can I be being slutty if I was handcuffed to the bed… For many woman their innate sexual resistance is at war with their desire. Their sub conscious fixes the problem with scenarios where their volition in the sex act is somehow compromised. This is the key to Submission woman… They are not fundamentally about the spankings or the handcuffs or the rough sex… although it is likely they will enjoy some or all of these things; Submission Women fundamentally crave being told what to do. The way to tease out submission fantasy is to tell her to do something and see how she reacts. I usualy start with, “ Sit here… and let me look at you,” said with a strong contained sexual state and a closed mouth smile.
Ah, the submission fantasy. All women have submission fantasies, to a lesser or greater degree, but some women craft their identity around them. The candidate archetype most likely to have submission fantasies is the Waif/Neurotic.
The Waif Neurotic is dangerous because she is emotionally manipulative through use of her vulnerability and commitment avoidance. A vulnerable, pretty girl playing hard to get is kryptonite to naive men. She is a master at the art of the push-pull, capable of driving men insane with her opacity and her mixed messages. For this reason, game tactics that “flip the script” work quite well on her.
The Waif-Neurotic often has submission fantasies because she craves what she hardly every experiences: a cocky, aloof man who won’t fall for her shit and who won’t beg her for signs of reciprocal romance. All she knows is that men dance to her tune, and she would kill for a challenge once in a while. In the act of submitting to a ZFG man she finds release from her romantic ennui, and for the first time in her life falls in love… with no psy ops strings attached.
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Agent X adds,
An interesting follow-up would be the proclivities of these archetypes to cheating….and how to keep her faithful in a relationship. Number 2, in particular, seems like a thrill junkie that is eventually going to end up in bed with the mailman unless that addiction to “ooooh..what am I even doing??” isn’t satisfied by some kind of risky/public sex life.
Number 1 would seem to be safe as long as Prince Even More Charming didn’t come along, but I suppose that’s basic hypergamy. However, since her fantasy involves transformation and some kind of “story”, it would seem she’d be far less likely to slink into the bar broom closet with Chad on a business trip.
Number 3 seems to be the least naturally inclined to cheating. A basic level of frame would seem to keep her happily in her place submitting to her man.
Overall, Number 2 seems to be the one least likely to remain faithful long term. If your game involves relatively young divorcees or naughty housewives, it would seem your playbook is simplified a bit. I-Don’t-Know-What-We’re-Doing Game.
Yes, #2 — the OCP (Overcome by Passion) woman — is the greatest infidelity risk.
Here’s a serviceable CH Maxim (that would be less salient for men with game):
Maxim #31: The faster a woman falls into bed, the faster she’ll fall into another bed.
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http://www.dailystormer.com/white-women-standing-up-for-their-people-and-their-men/
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http://www.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/meast/10/24/israel.women.trafficking/
Over the past decade, about 10,000 women have been trafficked into Israel in what Keidar calls “modern slavery.”
The women are locked, beaten, raped, starved and forced to receive 15-30 men a day 365 days a year, according to the attorney.
About three years ago, Israeli police greatly reduced women trafficking by pouring resources into the problem. Security forces have also helped by stepping up patrols on the Israeli-Egyptian border as a result of al Qaeda presence in the Sinai.
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Is there any place to find anti-World War White videos, memes, and PSA’s that don’t have to include an anti-Semite jab?
Regardless of where you stand on that, it would be waaay easier to make this go mainstream if we could just stop at the “there’s a war on white people” info without going straight to “AND ITS BECAUSE OF THE JOOOOOOS” stuff?
If we’re going to tease white pride out of the “Neo-Nazi” public filing cabinet, we need to find a better way to spread the word without putting a Star of David over every picture of an elite who had a Jewish half cousin.
We’re just doing the Establishment’s work for them. I was actually excited about having something to broadcast to he sleepy masses until they cut to the DAS JUDEN frames….
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Totally agree. Jewish conspiracy theories are stupid and baseless and off-putting, especially to Christians who still compose the majority of white people.
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its not that the JQ is baseless (its not), its that anti-jew stuff lets people outgroup you too quickly when they might otherwise be receptive to your message.
finger before you fuck.
[CH: yes, the best attack is one that sneaks up on the enemy. lull them into a false sense of ease before hitting them with the hammer of thor.
it’s like insults. they work a lot better when you insult your foe at the end of a discussion (or berating) rather than at the beginning.]
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That would be pretty pointless. It’s still going to to be marginalized as racist regardless. And refusing to name the Jew in all this would be like a public health campaign against food poisoning that studiously avoids inspecting restaurant kitchens for cleanliness.
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Brother…. Ok, sure…why not. Lets just go Full Retard on the general public. It just works so well.
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Look, I get that there are some Jews that actually care about the nations they live in and are stand up Americans eg Pamela Geller, Mark Levin, et al., but they’re clearly outnumbered by their co-religious brethren who are hell-bent on destroying the societies and nations they live in. Hell, I even hear these same stand-up American Jews Jews ask in utter frustration, “But why are the Jews so God damned liberal?”
It’s well past time we have a conversation about the overwhelming majority of Jews who seriously undermine the societies they live in by pushing these really poisonous ideologies, policies, and cultural practices. Or do you think that Mark Zuckerberg and Barbara Spectre pushing open immigration, amnesty, and multi-culturalism is a good thing? One can go here listing a disproportionate number of Jews pushing utterly descructive ideologies. It’s time we have a conversation about that.
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WRT the post, two the variations of the ‘Pretty Pretty Princess’ female fantasies are this obsession with being the ‘Princess Bride’ and ‘Ice Skating Princess’. Both feed into women’s narcissism by creating the fantasy that they are the total and complete center of attention. The only time I’ve seen a majority of women actually care what goes on beyond the borders of their nations is when Prince-WillsNKate got married. The entire premise of the British(& other royal families) Throne is about satisfying women’s princess fantasies. It also seems that the only sport women truly care about is women’s Ice Skating at the Winter Olympics. Other women’s sports at the Winter Olympics don’t garner any attention by women except for women’s Ice Skating. The only things these have in common is the narcissism that feeds into women’s fantasies.
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The easy Pyrrhic victory is worse than nothing. Saul Alinsky said don’t mince words and say what you really want. Eskimos don’t mince words about being chosen and destined to rule: Devarim 15:6, 28:12–3.
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Yes, American Renaissance.
http://www.amren.com/
They are very scientifical and neither religious/Christian, nor esoterical (Odin/Paganism), nor about Hitler and Jews.
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It’s difficult to take you seriously, because it’s so easy to find pro-White stuff that mostly stays away from the JQ – Amren has already been mentioned to you, VDare is another, Gavin McInnes and many commentators on Unz.com like Fred Reed and Derbyshire are others. Even Takimag is pretty much pro-White at heart.
The thing is, one would have to be rather dull to read much on these sites and not wise up to the JQ fast. For starters, there are only two degrees of separation between Takimag and Kevin MacDonald – half the major writers from all these sites attend one another’s meetings occasionally, and tend to write for many different sites, both JQ sites and ‘J-neutral’ sites.
Then too, even Takimag, which is not even explicitly pro-White, features one of the tribe, David Cole, writing very good Holocaust revisionism material.
Then three, you can’t read people like Gavin and Derb very long without realizing how cucked they are precisely because they won’t name the Who.
So what’s your, heh, game here,pal?
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The “Jew Question” is utterly retarded.
Lets assume that the banking/Old Power/Old Money Elite (we generally agree on who they are) really are banding together solely because they are part Jewish. What the fuck difference would it make? It doesn’t change who it is, what their agenda is, and who we need to stop. It also has nothing to do with 99.99999999% of everyone else with Jewish heritage in the world. It doesn’t mean Dr. Rosen down at your local dentist is involved.
Its a totally fucking stupid distraction. Most of the Elite have connections to Elite British families. We going to lose our shit over “the Brits” and demonize anyone with English ancestry?
Its utterly dumbfuck nonsense. The Elite are who they are because of power and money. They come from the same families that have wielded it for centuries and just wizened up on how to wield it.
Keep your stupid Anti-Semitic bullshit out of the much bigger, much more verifiable, much more immediate issue of waking up White civilization to its summary execution.
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You don’t need an official conspiracy when mutual interests converge.
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lol at “Jewish conspiracy theories.” How many confessions do you need from Jews themselves who have worked to transform (to put it neutrally) our society or written about their domination of it? Barbara Lerner Spectre, Joel Stein, Ben Stein, Neal Gabler, Michael Medved, Stephen Steinlight, Nathan Abrams, David Brooks, Ron Unz.
That guy must be pulling our leg. Also just forget about the scholarly writings of E. Michael Jones and Kevin MacDonald. So baseless. Move along, there’s nothing to see here.
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jews are probably on average as leftist as most minority groups. they view themselves as minorities which is logical given that they were restricted in freedom in the past. most minorities, and non minority leftists, resent europeans. it’s simple human stupidity. there is nothing unique about jews, they aren’t as clever as people think. that you find jews mixing leftist ideas with their religion is a symptom of the times. jews wind up at the top because they aren’t completely without talent and they tend to be aggressive in their own self promotion. the left would exist with or without them.
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As a Christian, I will never be part of an anti-Jewish movement. I worship Jesus, a Jew. I venerate the Bible, written almost entirely by Jews.
We can celebrate and defend our white history, heritage, culture and blood without endorsing phony conspiracy theories.
It’s worth criticizing leftist Jews for their destructive idiocy, as we do with leftist whites. It’s not worth pretending there’s muh global centralized international Joo conspiracy.
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http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2015/09/03/rowan-county-ky-court-clerk-marriage-licenses-gays/71635794/
ASHLAND, Ky. — Five of six deputies in the office of a Kentucky county clerk taken into custody Thursday for her refusal to issue marriage licenses after the Supreme Court allowed gays to wed say they will process the paperwork starting Friday.
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[CH: sickening. here we are, 2015 USA, and principled religious objectors are being tossed into jail over refusing to sanction faggotry.]
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I don’t say ‘it’ is happening, but something definitely is happening.
We waited a long time for someone like Trump to take zero shit on illegal immigration and political correctness. We waited a long time to attract decent numbers of masculine young men to White Nationalism. And we have waited a very long time indeed for three attractive white women to stand up like this and make a professional video that stirs us up and names the Who.
14,000 views already on its first day, just by the official J-Tube count, and that’s with their bullshit ‘may be inappropriate for some viewers, sign in to confirm your age.’ Think they’d do that if every White in the video was Black and vice versa?
Thanks Lana and your sisters-in-arms.
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That is, thanks Lana, Megan and Sinead.
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awesome but even one of these women has a nose ring hole.
not sure if these women are just actors or who produced this, but it’s great.
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An interesting follow-up would be the proclivities of these archetypes to cheating….and how to keep her faithful in a relationship. Number 2, in particular, seems like a thrill junkie that is eventually going to end up in bed with the mailman unless that addiction to “ooooh..what am I even doing??” isn’t satisfied by some kind of risky/public sex life.
Number 1 would seem to be safe as long as Prince Even More Charming didn’t come along, but I suppose that’s basic hypergamy. However, since her fantasy involves transformation and some kind of “story”, it would seem she’d be far less likely to slink into the bar broom closet with Chad on a business trip.
Number 3 seems to be the least naturally inclined to cheating. A basic level of frame would seem to keep her happily in her place submitting to her man.
Overall, Number 2 seems to be the one least likely to remain faithful long term. If your game involves relatively young divorcees or naughty housewives, it would seem your playbook is simplified a bit. I-Don’t-Know-What-We’re-Doing Game.
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every cheating married woman i’ve been with has been #2. the #3 i’ve seen with swingers. #2 is, i think, the one that’s the most common cheater. #3 is sometimes at least honest
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@ AgentX
-Agreed on the need to keep the thrills rolling along.
Current gf is a type 2 OCP. Loooooves role playing and the public and risky stuff…a duck into a city alley for a quickie fantasy make out/ molestation…having a shag at night in a public park, or in a field under the stars, but not far from the road with the occasional car passing by…”I can’t believe I’m doing this!”…”I’ve never been this bad before!”. Yeah, whatever, honey.
My keeping her looking forward to the next adventure definitely scratches her itch. I see a Mile High Club candidate in her. Hmmm…now there’s a scenario to plant in her mind…
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God in Heaven, I hate to be so relentlessly negative and pessimistic, but all of this is going to have to be re-thought in light of the great emerging Black Swan event of our lifetimes: Womynz’s complete and utter ADDICTION to the iPhag and ScrotialMedia and Ph@gtime video-conferencing with their you-go-grrllll bffs-du-jour.
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DeNiro, as Sam Rothstein, tried to romance an addict in “Casino”, but that didn’t end so well. It never ends well with addicts. And now ALL of our womynz are ADDICTED:
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There’s a girl at work I’m trying to bang–don’t much care for this job–and I always give her shit for being on her phone.
I think it’s having an effect.
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Now imagine going out on a date with her, and you’re sitting at an outdoor café, sipping on some nice cool California chardonnay, as the sun sets over the Pacific – you ought to be having the time of your life – but she’s getting all fidgety and nervous and anxious because she hasn’t checked her iPhag in almost ten minutes. And then her breathing starts to accelerate and her forehead starts to sweat and she starts to get short and terse and angry with you. LIKE THE ADDICT THAT SHE IS. And then she has to excuse herself and go to the ladies’ room, to check her d@mned iPhag. Mother of Your Children material, anyone?!?!?
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“Mother of Your Children material, anyone?!?!?”
nope.
but she’ll just give the kids smartphones, tablets and television so they can stay entertained and out of her hair while she does whatever she wants. she won’t feel an ounce of guilt over it either.
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Oh, no doubt. At any rate, I think she has a kid in tow, but I might have misheard.
Still, that body!
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Grab the thing, switch it to silent/vibrate, stick it up her fud and call her repeatedly.
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Those of us who are against this need to break with a widespread practice of associating such people with those who steadfastly reject the idea of culture and cities per se. “Mass society” is the crux of it – the ubiquitous gadgets follow in its wake.
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‘“Mass society” is the crux of it – the ubiquitous gadgets follow in its wake.’ ——— I don’t mean to be argumentative, but the iPhag and PhagTime [videoconferencing/televideo over IP] are game changers. A BLACK SWAN EVENT. [AN “UNKNOWN UNKOWN”.] Women simply cannot put down the iPhag. They’ll drive right through red lights while they’re TXTing and PhagTiming, or sit there in the recliners with the d@mned things glued to their faces as their children are drowning in the swimming pool.
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@ Capt. Obvious: I agree. Woman are natural attention whores and more social than men. As such, the iPhags, Assbook, etc. are stimulating to them like a 100 crack hits over the course of a day. They simply cannot put the darn things down. We all see them. Even at the gym, checking their messages and texting in between sets. Like monkeys. I cannot see these women being mothers, let alone good ones. Their minds are completely elsewhere most of the time.
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The worst part about it may be that it’s not even an ‘event’ in any real sense. It’s an actual religion, hidden in plain sight. It seriously makes me nauseous to think about it. They’ll probably introduce a new Black Swan Mini without a hint of irony about it. Disgusting.
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It is an addiction, you actually get a little blip of dopamine when you go to check your email, text, device etc. Stimulus / response feeedback loop.
Give her a big shot of dopamine another way…
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[…] Women’s Three Fantasy Archetypes […]
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i’ve experienced the vast majority as 2 (married women live here), a touch of 3
i want 1, but not amazonian, just a feminine woman that wants to be feminine
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yeah, i think a lot of us want the feminine girls but fall into the same cinderella story thinking that women do. we think we can take a tomboy or a girl who doesn’t really want to be that feminine and change her into a delicate little princess. odds are we can’t.
our best bet is just finding a girl who is already feminine and enjoying the fun in that instead of always looking for the makeover story.
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What say you, white man?
[CH: blatantly off-topic trollery snipped.
nice try troof, but yer high yella act isn’t gonna get much traction here.]
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http://blog.okcupid.com/index.php/your-race-affects-whether-people-write-you-back/
Watch what women do, not what they say.
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Dataclysm is a hell of an interesting read.
Fun fact: In number of words, Twitter users write the equivalent of all the world’s literature every two years.
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Never has so much communicated so little.
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“Men don’t write black women back”
I wonder if that statistic is corrected for obesity. Most black women on Okcupid frankly are monsters. I’m sure the slim pretty black girls get plenty of responses.
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Its important to note that all women manifest all three of these archetypes.. one may take priority, but a girl who is an extreme version of any of these is fairly rare. sprinkling in a bit of the antidote for each venom the best medicine.
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These are all variations on the same theme…However, having experienced all of them, the Waif/Ingenue is the most dangerous.
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Also the most satisfying.
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CH, how many women do you think fall neatly into one of these classifications?
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OT:
Regarding this whole “oh noes! a picture of a dead Syrian kid! Open Europe up to more Muslims!” media-driven frenzy …
… last time I checked, Syria shares a border with Israel. I’m sure Israel will open its borders to take in hordes of Syrians, right?
Right?
[CH: respond to anti-White propaganda with pro-White COPROP. dead kid? Hit back at them with a hundred photos of raped 12 year old girls from rotherham. agree and motherfucking amplify these race scabs.]
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No, but, uh, what’s the point you’re making there? Israel is non-crazy. Are we supposed to be angry at them for being non-crazy? It’s not like Israel is being hypocritical – ask any Israeli what he thinks of Europe taking Syrians and he’ll tell you straight-up that it’s idiotic and they shouldn’t do it.
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Can’t wait for the wails of despair as Mutti Merkel’s panzer divisions to rock up on the Golan Heights, if the bleeding-heart-of-Europe decides to sort out the mess once and for all (as an ongoing side-bar to their Ukraine strategy). They already had the railheads built, right through Anatolia, to help the Ottomans kill my g-g-grandad. Wagons roll!
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Point out who is to blame:
1. The parents, for not staying in a safe nation (Turkey), but instead choosing to benefit shop at the risk of their child(ren)’s life.
2. Turkey, for turning a blind eye and allowing these ships to set out for Greece. What is Turkey doing to stop this? (crickets) What pressure is Germany and the EU putting on Turkey? (crickets)
3. All Islamic nations for not stopping the cause of this exodus, or providing a place for them to stay.
4. Liberal/progressives/socialists in Europe, like Merkel, Hollande, Cameron, etc., who give benefits to illegal invaders that exceed the benefits and quality of living of the indigenous white citizens. These bankster-puppet leaders need to be placed in prison.
5. The fathers/men, for not staying in their own nations and fighting for one side or the other. If ISIS is the problem (which it is), then fight for Assad.
6. Obama, for pretending ISIS is not a problem, and refusing to let American troops in the Middle East to engage them in battle. Obama is a radical Muslim, and this is all part of his plan.
White Europeans are NOT to blame for this.
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Saved your comment for future use.
CH, could a rhetorical argument guide be produced to counter the “poor drowned boy” argument (that somehow forgets why the kid was on boat, or if the kid actually was thrown overboard by some peaceful poor refugees etc)?
We need some sort of guide to further the discussion without losing jobs or complete shut down of social life.
right now it is all about “poor drowned boy”
no one questions all the raped girls, beaten and murdered local europeans, and the ideology that is murdering its way through the middle east.
Accusing europeans of murder of the boat people is like accusing the emergency medic for being the murderer of the gun shot victim.
But the current atmosphere does not allow for this discussion without willing to sit on the Democles’ sword.
If someone would make a usable guide, that would be God send.
Btw, next book in my list is SJWs always lie, by Vox Day.
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The PPP archetype is a drag. They’ve usually watched too many romcoms and contribute nothing to the relationship.
Lately, I’ve been screening women by telling them the truth — that I like to dominate. Then I watch their eyes for the tell. Submissive or bust.
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@ Lackof ConfidenceWithin
“Lately, I’ve been screening women by telling them the truth — that I like to dominate.”
Yeh, I bet when you choke that chicken, you really get over on it.
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lazy troll
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Dominate dem curling toes!
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Stop it, you’re making his pussy hurt
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the prostate dominator
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i’ve observed some patterns myself; recurring types of women. one is a decadent, beautiful socialite type who is a thrill seeker and immune to consequences, she goes for ch’s ‘jerkboy’. another is a social climbing career woman that goes for credentialed high achieving men. a final one, the one i am puzzled by is the festive artsy type, usually with a hippy style, a seemingly large network of men that ‘know’ her somehow, likes to party, and she seems to like thin, artsy guys that could be members of a band or something. she often attends music festivals. i don’t know what it is she finds attractive in men. i’ve come across a couple of these women before. not all women fit into one of these types, they were just observations i had and could mean nothing.
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Curious as to how old each of these women are.
That third chica sounds a tad too friendly to every guy she meets.
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the ages vary but the third types have been 19-23.
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Martin – match the girls to the DPA attributes…
Dynamic – Alpha jerkboy
Passionate – indy artist
Authentic – credentialed achiever…
Ne plus ultra = dynamic + passionate + authentic
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where may i ask did you get this from? is it your invention?
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Yes. I’ve written a lot of posts on this. Just search if you want to see more descriptions and examples.
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Yes. Search for my comments on this topic
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just a musing, i spent most of this summer with some extremely attractive young women less than half my age. and i’ve heard this about sex as well, that viagra is a drug not for old men, but for having sex with old women. and that’s true
but i think young women have more than just physical beauty to attract. they are sweet, they laugh genuinely still. they aren’t weighted down with baggage
anyway long story short, i was responsible for them so nothing could happen. but i realized that in the same way sex with younger women makes you feel like a younger man physically, extended time with younger women makes you feel spiritually young again, it revives all the fascination and exhilaration of when you were young
there is no reason to settle for tired bitter women, at any age. unless you want to live a tired bitter (and viagre-filled) life
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as an offshoot to this, I am repeatedly astonished by how early the female peak is, and how ephemeral it is. Take your typical bangable 23 year old, yeah, pretty nice. Then view younger pictures of her or see her younger sister. You’re tumescence tells the tale: she was undeniably hotter in high school.
[CH: the truth that never fades. yup, most women peak in late adolescence. early 20s for some. and a tiny minority manage to hang on at peak beauty until mid-20s.]
Instead of just one big wall, there seem to be several “mini-walls” in an occidental girl’s life. the first wall occurs after her prime high school years with the freshman fifteen or early party years.. It sounds odd to say there’s a wall at 18, but with the introduction of alcohol and absence of mom’s home cooked veggies, a girl loses that clear coat that really made her candy paint shine. She can never reattain it.
Then is a more gentle slope downward but by 23-24 there is another hastening of decline. Its effects are subtle, changes on entire body and face, but definite. If you date a 24 year old girl you may see a picture of her at 19 or 20 and say, fuck I want to date THAT girl. You can’t even put your finger on why. The biology is sneaky.
A commonly overlooked but obvious mini-wall happens consistently when a girl is 27-28. This wall is all about the eyes. Her limbal ring fades, making her face less striking. The skin surrounding the eyes darkens and loses firmness. If she’s genetically predisposed to bags under the eyes, they start to emerge. Some small blood vessels on the eyelids become visible through the skin. Her collagen is less resilient. She notices and starts thinking about marriage simultaneously. Funny that.
The wall of the thirties is more variable depending on pregnancies and lifestyle, but there’s usually a big one near 35 that corresponds to the steepest negative slope of the fertility curve. Then of course, there is an immutable electrified brick built-by-Trump wall with barbed wire on top that is also known as menopause and doubles as a superpower of invisibility to men.
All in all there are many bricks in The Wall, and unless a girl chooses a well-reputed contractor before construction, she will find that nobody wants to pay the bill.
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You got it. Something I’ve often wanted to note before here. Breasts in particular, nice C’s, have a very short timespan of perfection. For those hourglass beauties, it’s only a year or two between the time their hips and asses have properly filled and the time a little sag appears topside. They’ll have enjoyable bounty for years, but the optimum ripeness is very brief indeed.
I notice there’s no bestselling mag for girl fashion called ‘eighteen’ or ‘nineteen.’
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Also, the younger that they have children the less wreaking of havoc on their bodies that childbearing will have.
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Alcohol’s the biggie in my book.
Several years ago, I left my job, but went out with a former co-worker for one last, half-hearted attempt in her pants. (Very pre-red pill days for me.) She showed me a picture of her license and the photo was of her back in high school.
WOW! What a difference. I mean, hardly anyone looks good in those photos, but the contrast was alarming. Obviously prettier due to youth, but she wasn’t as bloated from all the booze she had up to that point. Great ass, though.
You can always see the girls that booze too much because they’re bloated. It’s not so much fat, it’s bloatation–to invent a phrase.
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Indeed Burke.. Youth is the wellspring of youth. a great Red Pill Truth in the old movie The Philadelphia Story (1940):
Seth Lord (Tracy’s Father): What most wives fail to realize is that
their husbands’ philandering… has nothing whatever to do with them.
Tracy Lord (Seth’s Daughter): Oh? Then what has it to do with?
SL: A reluctance to grow old, I think. I suppose the best mainstay a man
can have as he gets along in years… is a daughter.
TL: The right kind of daughter. How sweet.
SL: No, I’m talking seriously about something I’ve thought over thoroughly.
I’ve had to. A devoted young girl gives a man the illusion… that youth is still his.
TL: – Very important, I suppose.
SL: – Oh, very, very. Because, without her, he might be inclined to go in search of his youth. That’s just as important to him as it is to any woman.
But with a girl of his own, full of warmth for him… full of foolish, unquestioning, uncritical affection…
TL: – None of which I’ve got.
SL: – None.
The whole scene is great.
http://www.springfieldspringfield.co.uk/movie_script.php?movie=philadelphia-story-the
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Off topic, but relating to the Ancient Romans/Greeks post a few days back.
Check out these current day beauties from Italy:
http://italianthro.blogspot.com/search/label/Italian%20Beauty
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Monica Bellucci, in her prime, was wandering around somewhere in the mystical nether region between an HB9.95 and the hypothetical HB10. Even after her prime, when she was making the Matrix sequels, she was still a solid HB9.95.
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Yeh. Monica Bellucci. Lactating.
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Very timely. Ive been seeing a Ukrainian girl and our first night together I fucked the shit out of her for hours(and at one point her beta orbiter was watching through the door)…but I was so drunk I didnt remember it. its amazing how this fucks with her. Best night of her life and I cant even remember it. Non stop shit testing and biting criticism. Your archetype 2 captures her perfectly. She claims saintliness and a sneak peak on her facebook and a while before she was fucking a married man. She only treats me well when Im leaving her. I remember her saying…Im drunk you can do anything you want! Never met a girl who wanted to be dominated and degraded so much. The worse I did the bigger her smile the next day. Not a long term prospect methinks.
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Worth sharing.
The Rational Male’s excellent post on Female Solipsism.
http://therationalmale.com/2015/09/02/solipsism-i/#comments
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How do you find out which fantasy archetype is a woman’s favorite, I wonder?
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@Noble – it’s not a question of which one is her favourite, so much as which one best describes her. As said frequently, all women have aspects of all three archetypes (and probably more), but one trait is usually dominant.
As for how to find out – they’ll tell you themselves – you just need to watch for the signs and learn what they mean. It’s like noticing IOIs – initially you have to memorize lists and keep conscious track..after a while you know when a girl is into you and when she isn’t. This is the next step on that same spectrum.
For eg, I had a FR in the comments here a few weeks ago about a 19 year old I banged but the sex was crappy. One reason (which I’ve just realized) is that she was an OCP type and I hadn’t dealt with her in the best way (I did well enough to get the bang – just not enough to make a really memorable experience). But she tried to tell me – she was talking a lot about dominance and she kept refusing to do stuff with the obvious intention of wanting me to physically make her do it, etc..
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Listen to what they are saying – usually projection…
A PPP is looking for affirmation of her looks or status, so will compliment fish more, or self deprecate.
OCP – Like CH says, shit testing, push/pull, looking for dominance, looking for a reason for it to “just happen”… will often throw out she is bored with BF/Husband, unhappy in work, searching… Will respond to strong frame with eventual DDB eyes and supplication.
The third I’ve only really come across in already sexual scenarios – will like to be on her stomach, put arms over face, blindfold etc.
as I mentioned on the other thread – I usually find women are a blend of the three and will change over the course of the seduction… Like start with some PPP chat, then go into OCP to “make it happen” and then be submissive once it does happen.
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Alright. Thanks you.
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This is worth a post itself because its imagery and ideas are so rich in Blue Pill saturation and insights into beta-dom, white knighting and how pedestalization looks from a beta standpoint.
It’s a series of works by a Korean female illustrator Puung. She writes:
“Love is something that everybody can relate to. And Love comes in ways that we can easily overlook in our daily lives. So, I try to find the meaning of love in our daily lives and make it into artwork,”
http://www.idealistrevolution.org/korean-artist-beautifully-illustrates-what-real-love-looks-like/
Each of these illustrations has some beta depiction of love….do women really want a guy smothering them while they chop tomatoes?
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I’m pretty sure the skinny faggot’s toes are curling in that drawing of him sitting under a tree eating cookies and drinking milk.
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Wala – well the visuals are totally, totally gay… but the scenarios – these are common female fantasies… the difference is the guy. It’s got to be the right guy and from the right alpha frame and the right frequency… less is more, keep the mystery… Have CONTRAST between your solid confident alpha frame and the occasional full beta blast…. Keep her emotions going ^_^_^ and her off balance…
For example, a smitten woman will love when her guy comes over and grabs her waist and rubs his cock on her ass and nuzzles her neck briefly while she is chopping tomatoes – especially if he rolls off, slaps her ass and tells her to hurry up – he’s hungry – while walking away chomping on a bit of tomato.
Granted the braiding the hair one is off limits in all circumstances however- LOL
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I would add the word “your” to Maxim #31 – The faster a woman falls into YOUR bed, the faster she’ll fall into another bed.
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What is interesting about this list is that you should compare it to popular culture that normal people (i.e., before millenials) enjoyed. And then go to Cracked or other far more left wing and more femmy-nazi website “deconstructing” that pop culture.
Every female fantasy (which I was always to bigoted to realize these stories were because I was watching them as a male) is now being criticized as “ugh, nice gender roles, I can’t even” so when Cinderella gets her PPP fix or whatever, the femininst is so tingled-out in blaming men (we must’ve missed a fourth female fantasy for ugly chicks) that the men & women are acting according to the female fantasy achetypes that she (or the loser male feminist) goes on a rampage.
So, while the femmys congratulate frozen, as an example, for having the heroine “not need a man” or whatever, you know, it’s probably not a “grrl power” anthem but feeding a different chick fantasy because all the basic bishes love that movie. I forget the plot of it but I imagine its power is based on:
sisterhood
singing
rejecting a bad suitor
anyway…
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There’s a common thread in the description of each archetype – They want to be swept off their feet – and promptly bedded.
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Maxim #31: The faster a woman falls into bed, the faster she’ll fall into another bed.
It’s sad that there are people in this day and age who actually have to be told this. Even sadder that some will probably not believe it.
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