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Physically backing away from a girl, slowly, while happily chatting her up is an unholy mindfuck that pays pickup dividends later. Pretty girls expect men/betas to be eager to get near them. Signaling that you aren’t eager for nearness cues girls that you aren’t like the typical beta male desperate for female intimacy, which in turn prompts girls to seek your validation.
Of course, you have to establish nearness at some point, but physical intimacy is far more powerful an effect on women when it’s wrested from you, or when it takes its sweet time announcing its presence.
This may sound like it contradicts the established Game principle of kino and rapid physical escalation during a seduction, but the details of execution matter. Your Physical Retreat (PR) is tactical in nature, and operates in concert with kino escalation. Example: You chat up a girl, unassumingly place a light touch on her forearm, remove your hand, stand up, continue talking but in a more animated matter as you begin moving slowly, almost imperceptibly, your whole body away from the girl. Then, reach for something behind her, say your drink on the bar, and exploit that gap-closing motion to reintroduce your physical proximity.
Repeat a few times as her attraction builds, and she’s ready to be swept into a comforting, deeper conversation in a quiet spot.
This is seduction psy ops that hits the female id square in the sternum. She can’t get a bead on you… do you like her, don’t like her, what’s your deal? why does she feel this weird impulse to seek your approval all of a sudden?… and when a girl can’t figure you out, all she wants to do is…. figure you out. Driven by her compulsion to pigeonhole your rank in the sexual market relative to hers, she is apt to play right into your frame, and you will have all the hand. Hand is critical to seducing women. Without jerkboy hand, you are just another chafed hand on the fap ledger of incel life.
A reader adds,
Brutal! Another mindfuck is to look at a spot just next to his (her) ear & watch as he tries to lean into your gaze.
Yes, that is another unholy mindfuck. Works on sociopaths and queen bees too (they never expect it because their narcissism levels are off the charts). So much of seduction – the sexual and the social kinds – is the art of structuring a dominance-submission hierarchy that raises one’s value and does so (it has to be said) at the expense of lowering the other’s value. That is the nature of goal-oriented communication (which is all communication, when you think about it).
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I should mention the importance of incongruence to the PR tactic. You aren’t physically retreating from the girl in a state of bewilderment or butthurtness; you are backing off with a smile on your face and a happy upbeat tune to your words. This disjunction between body language and facial/verbal expression is what sets the female id aflame. There are contexts within the seduction process when a little incongruence adds rather than subtracts from a girl’s perception of your mate value.
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http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-35237173
1000 Muslims takes over public square in Germany on new years eve. Fire fireworks into crowd, rape women. Authorities suppress story for days. Lol @ merkel.
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Also, never completely turning to face her initially. Easy to pull off if you’re both standing at the bar. She will assume you aren’t directly hitting on her and let her guard down since most guys face her instead of just turning their head sideways and talking to her like she’s your secretary
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Definitely concur. I used this move on a target recently. As I stood slightly back from the bar and side on to her, she began to move towards me. Very effective.
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It works anywhere a woman is giving you eyes.
This is a timely piece, CH. I have recently started getting serious fuck-me eyes from a cute cashier at a local supermarket. She remembers me after only seeing me twice. I have noticed that she seems to do this to any cute guy who comes through the store, and she’ll greet them even if they aren’t in her line.
She’s apparently got an entire harem of orbiters going. She’s irresistible….green eyes, long dark hair, 20 year old fit body, and a very out of place soft southern drawl.
After my third time seeing her last night (and not really acknowledging her sex-gaze seeing her little operation) I was driving home wondering how to game an uber-tart like this. You can’t engage her, that’s how she puts you in orbit. Can’t completely ignore her, although that’s probably a slightly better strategy.
But this is gold, CH. Next time I see her I will acknowledge I do know her for a half second before starting at anything or anyone just behind her. Preferably a less attractive co-worker.
I think I need to invent a reason to go to the store tonight.
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I don’t understand. Why can’t you engage her? She probably does flirt with every dude she finds attractive, but how many of them approach and try to get her number?
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What I mean is you can’t engage her on quasi-sexualized terms. Those are the terms she is setting.
With a typical woman, she will engage you casually and challenge you to make it sexual. Few men have the balls.
An uber-tart flips the script and makes things quasi-sexual from the get-go. Her friendzone is a level up from the usual. Instead of her orbiters shying away from sexaulized talk, they are trapped in a web of it. Intoxicated by the flirtations and fuck-me-eyes of a cutie who is just toying with them.
You have to flip the script again and engage just enough to show her you aren’t a block of lead but then ghost her attempts at mental strip-teasing and act like the HB4 cashier behind her is worth all your attention. That’s an effective strategy to out-flank the uber-tart and one I intend to try with this one.
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That makes more sense now. What you’re describing works well in a social circle where you have to differentiate yourself from a bunch of thirsty chumps, all too eager to spend every moment they can with the girl. I just don’t know if the same dynamics apply at the grocery store, since you only see her when you shop, and only for a few minutes each time.
I still think going for the number close is the best way to break away from the pack. If you get that far, the hot-cold-hot-cold-hot routine will probably work well, especially since she’s a cock-teasing attention whore.
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One of my favorite mindfuck techniques is to make wholesome things sound dirty and make dirty things sound wholesome.
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That’s classical upper-crust high-brow White Chr!stian Game. This idea that everything should be explicitly & grotesquely vulgar [e.g. Adam Sandler or J00zney making hundreds of millions of dollars by inserting f@rt jokes into “children’s” movies] is all part of the Eskimo sewer which is polluting Western Civilization.
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Yeah the technique lends itself to a more conservative personality. Subtly treading the line between wholesomeness and sexuality turns women on 10x faster than any outright vulgarity could.
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Agreed. Subtext is fun and when you get the gal to play along, BON!
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This is an interesting technique for attraction via increasing distance.
Anyone want to comment on when might be the best time to employ it?
Would this be like the “I gotta go soon but… (insert routine here)” Would increasing distance be like bouncing on your heels to indicate you may leave?
One thing I have done is with girls who are behind counters like at the dry cleaners, I tell a story of my latest trip abroad and in the process I kind of act it out. Of course this moves me further away from the counter. A few times this one girl will lean on the counter as if trying to get closer to me while I tell my tale. Then if I go close to her she doesn’t seem to back off the counter – it kind of has this instant intimacy vibe. I flirt a bit more and then leave with my shirts… but this post makes me think.
Beta boy destroyer deluxe – Observe beta boy leaning on the counter hitting on your favorite counter girl. You roll in say hi flirt and the start a story 10 feet away but down across the other end of the counter. Girl will probably engage with you and drop convo with thirsty beta. Then if the beta does not leave but trys to move down the counter you take up beta boy’s counter perch in just. the. same. pose. You can even ask her if she plays online games in a nerdy voice just like beta boy for a laugh. I bet you get number and tingles at hyperspeed. After all going though hyper space isn’t like dusting crops beta-boy!
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> “when might be the best time to employ it” ——— It’s all part and parcel of Hard-to-Get aka C*nt-Tease Game. Throwing unexpected Radio Silence at her is of the same genre of techniques – as soon as you sense that she thinks she’s getting her tentacles into you, you arrange to disappear. But the danger, of course, is that another Playah will move in during your absence. Nothing ventured, nothing gained…
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Another mini-example – Korben Dallas teasing Leeloo with his cabby’s license [“You can call me when you learn English!”]:
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Confirmed: Lawyercunt Megyn Kelly WAS on her period during the first GOPe debate.
“The morning of the debate, while doing debate prep, she got violently ill…She did the debate with a blanket over her legs and a bucket to throw up in by her side.”
From January’s Vanity Fag magazine.
http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2015/12/megyn-kelly-fox-news-cover-story?mbid=social_facebook
Can’t Stump the Trump. “Bleeding out of her eyes” for sure.
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Just goes to show how adept Trump is at evalutating people, especially women.
This next debate will be fun. Shit, even his speeches will highlight this and I’m sure he’ll spin it fine: So Megyn Kelly (boos), no, no, she was ill, she wasn’t well, so, Megyn, I’m hoping you’re fine on [debate day], looking forward to it (applause)
Hearing his last speech, he’s doing great subterfuge with regards to his “thousand of muslims” celebrating when media said he lied and it was only “hundreds.” At his last speech, he was saying he’s leading polls at 40%, 35, “and it’s only 15 people.”
He’s hella lowballing the number and saying, even with that, I’m still on top.
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Ted “Cuba” Cruz has hired a team of PhDs from Oxford & Cambridge to run psychological analyses of GOP Evangelical voters. Whereas The Donald is doing it all on instinct & experience. The Donald versus a team of Oxford & Cambridge PhDs – one lone man athwart History, dishing out spur-of-the-moment improvised Negs, versus a warehouse of supercomputer neural networks, fed the very best in behavioral programming genetic algorithms. LOL’ed.
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Analog > Digital.
Give me a vacuum tube amplifier any day of the week.
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Cappy, your comment got me thinking some more:
At the last debate (or possibly the speech night before the debate), Trump admitted that he had never been part of the political process, that he’s never done something like this before, at this far a stage, at this level, etc.
That’s great humility and not phony or a canned answer. Part of his frankness is admitting his experiences, and while others that hate him decry such frankness as being rude, I cannot think of any candidate/politician that would say such a thing, that would admit that essentially this is their first rodeo and their learning as they go along.
So when at the one CNN debate he said “humble” to describe himself in one word, the guy wasn’t bullshitting. He’s admitted where he’s lacking, that being the experience of running for the biggest office in the planet and it doesn’t bother him. He’s having fun. He’s being honest and even if it is all one big salesjob, which that’s part of the job, so be it. History has shown people have sold out for less.
Viva Trump!
(Now let’s see if any opposing campaign will pick up on that and use it. Cause it could backfire on them.)
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Mendo
What you call Trump’s “having fun” has already led the Somali terrorist group Al-Shabaab to use video of his words to recruit more motherfuckers to extreme Islam.
Trump’s response? “I have to say what I have to say.” Total fucking non-comment. Circular reasoning. Like Bush saying, “My strength is my strength.”
A Trump presidency (which thankfully won’t happen) would accelerate this recruitment process — and seriously endanger our access to the Middle Eastern oil that our society currently relies upon for its existence.
Keep patting yourself on the back for playing checkers. Meanwhile, the rest of us will continue the three-dimensional MMOG tournament that is real-life geopolitics.
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Right – because TRUMP declaring Allah the Most High would stop these fuckers in their tracks.
Where you dropped as an infant?
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Strap’s you just don’t have the balls TRUMP has…
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and this ME Oil canard… first if we ain’t got it in Alaska or Texas or the Gulf (doubtful) we can go OVER THERE and TAKE whatever the fuck we want… Faggot Within….
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@ The Straw
In what world do you live? Waging war in the Middle East is nearly IMPOSSIBLE to achieve politically. For fuck’s sake, were you alive in 2003? Cheney had to co-opt the fucking CIA just to sell that pile of shit called the Iraq War to the American public.
Go pound sand. Punch holes in walls. Shout at the sky. Leave international relations to people who have studied how the world works.
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You are an idiot… Politically? Politically? The fuck? War is military… We’ve been there TWICE, on our way to a third time, we dominate. We should have just partitioned out the oil fields the first time, in Iraq, Kuwait and SA… the fuck they gonna do about it? But you are a faggot and would deny the right of conquest… Have you heard? To the victors the spoils…? there’s realtalk and realpolitik in one…
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Assuming the Russians can fire any of their nukes… a livable scenario is we take over the oilfields and jointly administer the reserves with the Ruskies… paying enough in tax to the whoremongering Arab tribalists so they can continue fucking around in Chelsea and NYC and whatever they get up to…
Take oil off the table and the ME is a backwater…
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“That’s great humility and not phony or a canned answer. Part of his frankness is admitting his experiences, and while others that hate him decry such frankness as being rude, I cannot think of any candidate/politician that would say such a thing, that would admit that essentially this is their first rodeo and their learning as they go along.”
Mendo – this is just apex alpha being apex alpha… the tell is whatever an apex alpha says or does, everyone finds a way to go along with it… whether it is blinf following or circumspect “that guy… hmmmm. he is something” they ALL follow and LIKE him for it!
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> “blind following or circumspect… they ALL follow and LIKE him for it” ——— Jesus H Christ, Sentient, I just posted almost exactly the same thought way down below here, regarding the cabbages & grocery store Produce Aisle Game. This is getting weird, man.
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Dildo Within wrote:
“What you call Trump’s ‘having fun’ has already led the Somali terrorist group Al-Shabaab to use video of his words to recruit more motherfuckers to extreme Islam.”
If that’s all it takes to turn “ordinary” Muslims into “extreme” ones, then that only proves the point that “racist bigots” have been making about those people and that religion. We don’t want such fragile egos within our borders, genius.
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I guess Libya, Syria, Yemen and maybe a few more don’t count.
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Shills like Strapon used to make wonder why they persist, given their utter ineffectiveness at agitprop. Strapon has not persuaded, has not misled, and has not humiliated a single individual in all her time posting here.
A thought had crossed my mind, are they here to bait us into crimespeak in some kind of a long term sting op?
But then I thought, nah. One, even if that’s the case, we don’t care.
And two, I realized that in my bewilderment at her tire-spinning, I’m projecting my high intelligence onto that lesser vessel. Dunning-Kruger effect. Dumb people and lesser mid-wits fail to understand the speed and depth of an intelligent mind, and they actually do think that their pedestrian talking points are doing damage.
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Well, there’s that…
… but I think we’ve all sussed by now that Strapon is the girl who used to cut herself, because feeling ANYTHING, even pain, is preferable to the ennui of her daily existence.
Strapon keeps coming back with nuthin’ because she enjoys the attention and the pain.
For some broads, the spanking is what gets them off, whether or not sex follows.
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she enjoys the attention and the pain
Yeah, that’s an important addendum. I did in fact start typing it but then got lazy and stopped.
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To read that Vanity Fair article, you’d think she mopped the floor with The Donald.
Notice too how they lay on the sexual paste a bit think in describing the body and garb of this neo-Valkyrie of feminism. lzozlzozlzozlzolzolzolzolozlol
All vanity and little to no fair.
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Just clicked the link and when the video started playing: egads is that woman old. And I like thin women, but she’s anorexic in that photoshoot. She’s got a snooty nose and not one of privilege, but rather one born of shame.
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VF seems to have taken the role of emitting a cloud of ink to confuse posterity about what really happened. In a couple of years, it can be sneaked into wikipedia and otherwise used to reconstruct painful events. It’s about as accurate as taking your history lessons from movies or TV.
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@TSW “What you call Trump’s “having fun” has already led the Somali terrorist group Al-Shabaab to use video of his words to recruit more motherfuckers to extreme Islam.”
Why are you falling into their frame?
What’s your next piece of advice: Supplicate to your woman because ‘happy wife = happy life’? lolz.
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Vanity Fair. I call it “The Big Book of Jews”.
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Sounds like an invasion of the flu (blanket to keep her warm, gut symptoms) not of the Red Army, but that doesn’t change Trump’s astute evaluation of her state. Maybe she had both.
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Interesting body language in the picture of Kelly and her conventionally handsome husband. The experts here will need no prompting at all to spot the tells.
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Second husband Sean, she is divorced from Mr. Right#1…
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I can’t stand this woman. She wilts my boner
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off-topic mindfuck of what 50 years can do to a nation
it’s about the la sierra fitness program of jfk in 1962. i knew about it but i was still blown away at the decline
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w0t the he1l r u talkin 4bout m8?
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This reminds me of some of my “anti-game game” strategies I’ve written about on the Roosh Forum.
The one that really works is deliberately not going for a number close: Establish a connection and some intimacy and then abruptly say “OK, nice taking to you” and walk away.
More often than not, the woman will find an excuse to keep in touch, like offering you her business card — with her number written on it. When it goes this way, she’s more invested than if she has to comply with an order to fork over a phone number. Or, the woman will track you down in whatever venue you’re in and re-establish a connection. Same psychological effect as if she’s offered you her number.
I have found, however, that if you never call a number that a woman proffers, you end up with one angry and curt female the next time you bump into them. Women don’t take well to total indifference — which is a shame, because I’m pretty good at that, actually.
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Nothing but nothing drives a woman crazy by being tempted with something that she thinks she can’t have. It’s a dangerous gambit, but if you win, the reward is supreme.
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Or she thinks she can have it and it’s taken away…
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Fact: If you attempt SNL game and are unable to close (whatever the reason) … she will most likely force her number into your hand all the same, unprompted…
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turn them down for sex sometimes and see what happens. It’s actually frequently more fun than sex to watch total apoplexy and a psychological meltdown.
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This is really easy if you have a larger personal space.
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Sorry, all of these increasingly complicated strategies designed to JUST have sex with Eskimo-poisoned cunts seems to be putting the cart before the horse: in the world we are faced with– woefully entitled women seem to have endless barriers to have sex EVEN WITH “qualified” men– so maybe I’m giving up to easily and surrendering to the Eskimos, but at this point, it seems to be more trouble than it’s worth… pursuing sex with women, that is. I’m older, but still a 7.5 for my age; in shape, fairly good-looking, and like I said, it seems to be more trouble than it’s worth. Convince me otherwise.
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“you got some good chops playa… I’m liking you. Preach!” – ER
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So much incomprehension and excuse-making in one paragraph. It’s never been easy to obtain and retain quality women; that’s what being the expendable sex to the hypergamous sex is all about. Even in the days when you could drag them off by the hair and they liked it, being evidence they could not be taken easily, you had to be a superior warrior or hunter to do it in front of the competition. And there’s no such thing as ‘7.5 for my age.’ Age is part of SMV, nature’s supreme human measurement, as surely as any other ingredient. Age can only be compensated (there’s that challenge thing again) not erased. You’re either a 7.5 or you’re not.
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Another I do is when talking to a girl up close, I get a shit test I pause…smile…then cup her face with my hand like the grapefruit scene but not as rough. It’s a way of caressing her face with my hand in a rough but playful way…..
The surprise, the rush they get brings them right to life….it’s like a kitten with a ball of string…their eyes immediately light up:
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@ Walawala
I unsuccessfully tried to post the following re your recent FR about the great date being followed by flakey behavior. If I can get it posted it now I hope you find it relevant.
Chinese girls are really always on the lookout for the main chance, betawise, and have a very high opinion of their own holes. They are also absolutely shameless about playing the “my prerogative to change my mind” card.
The girl’s request to see your place reminded me of a similar kind of thing I experienced in Hong Kong. I lived there for a while and throughout that time, both when m*rried and when not, I always wore a w*dding ring. As we all know, a w*dding ring is great for sorting out those who are willing to just play from those who aren’t.
Because I was “m*rried”, I needn’t go on dates or walk these whores in malls or bring them home and even had an excuse to always pound them out in low-class hourly hotels, which was great because I am a cheap bastard.
Well, I can’t remember why, but on one occasion I brought one of these trollops back to my apartment, which was small but was in a desirable part of town and had a nice view of Victoria Harbour. As soon as she walked in she said the first thing a Chinese will always say in this situation: “Do you rent this or own it?” I made the mistake of admitting that I owned it.
The transformation was immediate. Her body stiffened. Her mouth developed a weird smile. And the sex that followed was lousy. Now, that was strange because this women was as I say both a genuinely competent harlot and a safely “taken” woman. She was m*rried to a doctor who was working in Taiwan while she stayed in her job in Hong Kong – mostly looking for white cock I suppose. I had banged her five or six times at that point and the more I cock-choked her and threw her around the more she liked it. But on this occasion, the usual enthusiasm seemed to be lacking.
I didn’t see her again for a number of weeks, no biggie, then we arranged to meet after work at our usual place by a particular subway exit in the dingy area where I usually did this kind of thing. This area had plenty of small hotels of the type where you have to go up a narrow flight of stairs and the receptionist is some one-eyed chinaman in a dirty singlet.
On this night however, the trollop baulked. She pointed across the road. She wanted to go into the brass-railed, carpeted place over there. Hmm. I didn’t like it. Making a mental note that this one was finished, I agreed to get a room across the road.
I thereupon took this bitch upstairs and spent the next two hours twisting her around like Gumbie. Still not quite up to her usual standard, but better than last time. Then we left the hotel.
At this point, I would usually beg off that I had to get home. Or maybe I would deign to have a bite; at most a bowl of won ton and a glass of jasmine tea. But on this night the bitch plants herself in front of a genuine type of restaurant – a place with big menus – and demands that I take her in. Nah. I’m going home. She pulled a lot of faces and stamped a foot but I just shrugged and headed for the subway. Next I saw her was when she called me out of the blue about 12 months later, but that is a different story.
Analysis? She was happy enough being fucked out on the cheap when she thought I was a man of no resources. But when she saw I had a valuable asset she suddenly figured she was entitled to some kind of a share of it. Other interpretations are also possible, but I go with this one.
So with your recent young lady, it seems she wasn’t into you – that happens – but she still wanted to see what kind of real estate you had. Chinese bitches be shameless.
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Success! So Greg Elliot was right. WordPress does reject “m*arriage”.
Sensible, I suppose.
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Gumbie and friend
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FI mating strategy – alpha fux beta bux… they are all like this… Good story all the same…
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Good story. One of my plates is a petite Persian girl I’ve only banged twice, but it was literally vagina-on-delivery; she came over to my place in the middle of the afternoon and walked around examining everything like the Queen of England. I sat in my chair, chin in hand, watching her (think the totally bored Gene Wilder in Charlie and the Chocolate Factory) before pulling her into the bedroom and getting it over with.
Now she’s decided to test the waters for betaness — she’s been texting me photos of diamond necklaces that she thinks she may have left at my place.
Really? Seriously?
I swear, these fucked-up gold-diggers will chew up any moron who doesn’t know how game is run. I’m not wealthy, but if I were, I’d probably lie about it, or keep away from investing in physical assets that can be seen by prying eyes.
Re: the plate. NEXT.
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Heh – and a clearer example of Lover/Provider would be hard to find. Even when she’s already classified you as alpha, she can still be looking for BB.
It’s one of the biggest reasons I stopped sugar daddy dating sites a few months ago. Even though I’d long since learnt how to filter out the outright gold diggers, and I never paid cash and I made that very clear, I realized that by definition (because of how we met), I was automatically locked into the Provider mode in their heads.
This was true even if I didn’t pay cash, because then they just wanted a meal ticket to be taken to nice bars, shows, restaurants and the like and they would delay sex for the same reason. A *best case* scenario would be a girl who wanted an actual boyfriend..a rich one to take care of her.
Sure there were a few exceptions – a couple of memorable toilet BJs when I managed to overwhelm a gold digger’s frame and turn her on enough, one woman in an open marriage who met guys to bang on a bunch of different websites and sugar daddy dating was only one of those sites, etc (plus there were several more girls I banged, but I always got the sense I was still in Provider-land with those girls and they were just giving me a sample of the goods..that wasn’t as good as the ones I actually turned on)
But on the whole, it was a case of being locked into Provider-Town and struggling to climb out of it. Plus the overall quality of sugar daddy dating itself has declined – all these online services have a quality curve. Tinder, etc too. They start off great but then get worse. In 2013/14 there were still plenty of girls on sugar sites who basically had a thing for successful older guys and weren’t looking for much more than that. In 2015..not so much. Much more of the hardcore gold diggers.
I don’t regret – I slept with a lot of women, learnt a lot about first dates, escalation and the like and boosted my confidence. But by 2015 my time was done. No more Provider lockdown for me.
Maybe I’ll even start wearing a fake wedding ring..I think I remember Sentient posting that 80-90% of women didn’t care in his experience but there’s a small hardcore group who get totally put off by it and won’t do anything with you even when they are attracted..
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Great story. Seems as soon as she knew you were more permanent with your own place she wanted to upgrade to gf or mistress status. But it’s not that unusual. There is a point where many of these girls get turned off for whatever reason…owning your own flat suddenly made the whole fantasy real. She’s now resisting….happened a few times with a variety of triggers…
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Vag Dom: “Chinese bitches be shameless.” Thanks for the laugh. I needed it today. (And it brings back fond and not so fond memories of life in Atlantic City years ago…)
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@Vagina dominator
great story…and just shows how ingrained beta bux shit testing is in girls’ hindbrains…you merely pinged her beta bux circuit (by displaying potential provider resources) and she HAD to shit test…it’s wired in…lol…
“The transformation was immediate. Her body stiffened. Her mouth developed a weird smile. And the sex that followed was lousy.” and “Still not quite up to her usual standard, but better than last time.”
and therein lies the difference between authentic alpha sex and ‘make a beta do what i want’ sex…it can still be good, and if you haven’t had that authentic sex, it might even seem great, but once you get the real thing, it’s kind of lame…lol…and you can NOT get the real thing without game…ask me how i know…lol…
“Next I saw her was when she called me out of the blue about 12 months later, but that is a different story.”
if her contacting you involved sex, it’s just part of the same story…it just took her that long for her hindbrain to get out of ‘chase me’ beta bux shit testing mode…lol
good luck!
@ Culum
“But on the whole, it was a case of being locked into Provider-Town and struggling to climb out of it. ”
= GREAT practice opportunities…lol…
“Maybe I’ll even start wearing a fake wedding ring..I think I remember Sentient posting that 80-90% of women didn’t care in his experience but there’s a small hardcore group who get totally put off by it and won’t do anything with you even when they are attracted..”
it’s 100% actually…lol…(good genetics are wherever girls find them…and once their hindbrain has buy-in, their hamster will twist itself into knots to be your friend and make it ok…lol) that ‘hardcore’ group just shit tests harder bc if you’re married = potential beta tell…and that shit test looks like: ‘i could/would NEVER get with a MARRIED man…’ or ‘you’re sleazy’…etc…it’s always some form of ‘i’m a good girl…’ (where have you heard that before?…lol) or an attempt at shaming in line with the FI…
good luck!
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@Vagina dominator Culum
in the stack with firefox…wordpress hates me…lol…
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Inwardly VD, I’ve always held your blunt handle against you, but that was a very nice post. It’s funny how the artless have so much difficulty understanding how someone like you or Sentient, even if you were making up stories, MUST anyway possess the matching experience, insight and skill. Otherwise you couldn’t write this.
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Then why are you an anti-slav bigot?
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“CHINESE GIRLS HAVE CASH REGISTERS FOR SOULS!” BTW, if you’re conversing with a g00k chick, casually work that statement into the conversation, and see how she reacts. I’ve found that it can be a real ice-breaker, if you fit it in just right. SHE: “blah blah blah…” YOU: “Yeah, that’s true, but you know what they say…” SHE: “What?” YOU: “That all y’all Chinese chicks have cash registers for souls…”
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I don’t ever get this, honestly. Not sure why as I have obvious markers of wealth, like an AP and a Rolex etc., and I wear prada shoes.
The women usually think I am a playboy, and my vibe is really more like yeah we are gonna have a good time and we get to go here because of me but I ain’t keepin you, ho.
I never spend that much money on hoez. I have a player friend whose rule is dinner is for gfs…like actual gfs.
However, what has happened, is prior to the meet and whatnot, I have noticed a tendency for women to filter just fucks and potential bfs. They will do totally different things with each, send nudes, meet for casual sex, etc. They get pissed if you try to jump out of your bucket from a pure fuck to a serious and vice versa.
If you have enough going for you to be superficially interesting during the txt/talk phase, they don’t want to put out because they believe they’ll lose you. ONS-itis situation or something.
In the old days that everyone here yearns for, good girls would make you wait and marry to get it. Be careful what you ask for.
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I’ve read that a wedding ring serves as automatic pre-selection for the woman. They figure someone must put up with him and for my money, the gal is thinking why it’s not them and will do her best to try to sneak her way in.
Almost like “how dare he choose someone else when he doesn’t know me. I’ll show him.”
I have considered wearing one just to wear when going out and see what comes of it. Maybe even to a place I’ve been before sans ring and show up with ring and see if any of the girls ask about it. Especially a few places where I’ve made acquaintances.
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“. . .art of structuring a dominance-submission hierarchy that raises one’s value and does so (it has to be said) at the expense of lowering the other’s value. That is the nature of goal-oriented communication (which is all communication, when you think about it).”
‘When I use a word,’ Humpty Dumpty said, in rather a scornful tone, ‘it means just what I choose it to mean — neither more nor less.’
‘The question is,’ said Alice, ‘whether you can make words mean so many different things.’
‘The question is,’ said Humpty Dumpty, ‘which is to be master — that’s all.’
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Question. what should I do when I struggle to hear what the female is saying without looking too eager to listen and moving is not an option at the time?
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DAY GAME. Get out of the clubs and the discos with the speakers blaring away at 120dB. Only pure facial-expressions [stare-downs] and Kino-closings [grabbing her by the hand/tricep/small-of-her-back] work in those environment. Anything verbal needs to be done in Real Life, not in Night Life.
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Point to your ear, motion her to come to you and talk into your ear. You are naturally looking away while she does this, and she is close so slip your arm around her. Nod once in a while. Scan the room. Turn away in mid sentence and attend to your drink then motion her back… when you ar ein the zone it’s like playing a violin…
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So imagine what she FEEELZ in this setup… she now came over to you, at your command, SHE is straining to be heard by you, you are semi indifferent to her (she is chasing) AND you are providing strong familiar confident boyfriend posture kino at the same time… LOL She is half fucked already at this point because emotion (i.e. feeling) is the only truth to a woman…
Feelz are REALZZZZZZ!
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She is also close close close… so throw in some laser eye from 6 inches.. and when you see her swallow and lick her lip and her pupils dilate, move the other arm around her waist and go for the kiss… if she demurs, pull out from the lips and rub your cheek on her cheek and your lips (no tongue) graze her neck and ear and then PUSH her away, while you attend to your drink again and continue to scan the room…
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Beautiful stuff. Exactly how it is done.
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I would say that, with a girl you can’t hear, it depends on where you are in the stages of things. If there’s no spark yet, you are probably best not even listening, being bored, not looking at her, thinking about something else-when she inevitably complains, or you’ve had as much of that as you can handle, you have to be prepared to change the energy and take charge-switch locations, initiate a game, or anything that can allow you to get that sexual tension going. If there’s already sexual tension, there’s no need to listen or hear what she’s saying, the body language is more important. Eye contact, body angles, the absent-minded “IOI” cues, and start intruding on the physical personal space bubble, and initiate kino. In this situation, if the sexual tension is there, you can easily kiss close, because you can ignore the conversation (minimal uhuh and nodding) and concentrate on the physical cues.
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ot: MERRY EX-MAS: Man infuriates ex-partners by putting them all into a group chat
tl;dr ends up hooking up with one. heh.
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Simply brilliant.
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What about intimacy in a relationship? What’s the rule of thumb for her/you initiating non-sexual intimacy?
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Never do it… seriously it’s pointless. You trollin’?
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I think I can confirm this concept in the field. I spotted an exceptionally hot girl at the grocery struggling over which cabbage to pick. I stepped next to her and sharply said, “No… nope, not that one, nope..uh uh, nah… she looked over at me with a wide smile, whereupon I picked up my basket, smirked with a sly smile and walked away. What did she do next? She started following me around!! ..standing next to me expecting me to strike up convo. I was terrified and (and married) so I pretended I didn’t notice her. This stuff is highly explosive, handle with care.
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Yep. Are you paying attention Putin? This might even get you laid.
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> “She started following me around!!… This stuff is highly explosive, handle with care.” ——— THIS!!!!! Women are irresistibly attracted to strong Masculine ZFG funny/clever/insightful/daring men. And not just sexually, but in Real [non-sexual, even post-menopausal] Life. People [and especially women] will watch whatever you’re doing, and then start abstractly [and often physically] start clinging to you & copying whichever example you happen to be setting.
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And when this behavior – from either women, or from Betas & Gammas – starts to disgust you, try to remind yourself that imitation is the sincerest form of flattery. Of course, when you’re a Tradcon, your conscience kicks in, and slowly you realize that you are becoming an Alpha Sh!tlord, which comes with extraordinarily serious responsibilities for securing any possible future for the White race & Western Civ.
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PRO-TIP: Never call out women or Betas & Gammas on their imitation of you. As Rush Limbaugh says, let them believe that they thought of it all themselves [and there’s a similar Patton quote somewhere to the same effect].
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[…] Source: Heartiste […]
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This post has a special worth. CH explains here why incongruence is a powerful tool, not only using that tactic but any other.
“She can’t get a bead on you… do you like her, don’t like her, what’s your deal? why does she feel this weird impulse to seek your approval all of a sudden?”
In the past I’ve problems understanding that kind of game. But CH is on the point here.
Incongruence ops are about display a question on the field whose answer is yours. About a question that sets a frame, your frame.
CH has brought gold for us, now go to extrapolate it to all possible grounds.
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Most valuable lessons of 2015 – the power of the roll off/take away (of which this post is a variant) and ignoring any “friend” overtures… Lots of stuff to mine here… the subtext to all is YOUR attention matters… the rest is just cat string theory acted out in innumerable ways… The key is to have the resolute confidence that you ARE the prize, and the patience to allow the game to unfold and develop, being 3 moves ahead at all times… Beautiful when it all comes together.
At it’s core game is psychological dominance… TRUMP of course knows this and is giving a master class…
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OMG, Sentient, I just wrote almost exactly the same thing you wrote. LOL’ed. Great minds think alike, my Man…
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A master class indeed.
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well game is truth Cap… we all get there if we can take our blinders off…
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PdL, these sorts of advanced theoretical topics are applied so much better in the real world once you can internalize and master and live a true Inner Frame of ZFG. With these techniques [confusion, misdirection, disappearing] you’re gambling that she’ll be lured in by the bait which you’re laying for her. But she might not – she might get swept off her feet by another Playah who grabbed her in your absence – but then ZFG, and on to the next target.
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And when you first get into Advanced Game [or any Game at all], it really helps your Inner Frame to keep reminding yourself that you are the prize, not she. YOU ARE THE PRIZE. And if she foolishly chooses the wrong Playah, then that mistake is on her, and she’ll have to live with it for the rest of her life. YOU ARE THE PRIZE.
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“Unholy Mindfucks” is a great name for a right-wing band.
Which, if you played it’s music for the Faggot Within, he would cry.
Faggot Within rape!
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@ The Spirit Within
Don’t worry about the Arabs not selling their oil. Selling oil is all they’ve got. They give that up they’ll go back to living in tents and riding camels. As for President Trump, a strong man with strong opinions is usually respected in Arabic culture — even if he is an enemy.
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Especially if he is… A RIVER TO HIS PEOPLE!
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You’re probably right, heartsy, but I’m concerned this would put too many people in the mind, where they least need to be, myself included.
Doc love fwiw, says never touch a woman, let her do the touching.. Until it happens of course. I don’t know if that’s better, but its certainly interesting advice, flying in the face of mainstream (can we call it that) PUA advice. It’s certainly something many women have never experienced before, and if plied by one who has masculine energy and confidice, she has to be wondering. I dunno. I’m not an expert, but I know in the moment, that’s where you want to be, in the moment, not in the mind
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This is what America used to be like https://youtu.be/zsXCs41DkWs
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“So basically, go the full asshole? Isn’t that uncalibrated?”
@Wala – answer here that thread is getting old…
Not sure what you mean by asshole, I’m talking about sexualizing the conversation, you can do that in a calibrated and flirty way. but the key is to make sure you do it to break her perception of you as LJBF, so all her interactions from here forward with you have a sexual theme that you are setting, such that she knows you aren’t having any of that LJBF stuff… and her continued response post sexualizing is further putting you in alpha fux category, unwinding the LJBF and calling out the bullshit.
Enjoy the game..
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@Sentient…Good stuff. Met a cute 20’s flight attendant I gamed at my party. She was keen to meet up and after meeting her it was clear why. The girl is absolutely starved for real male company….a man. She showed up on time–rare in this city. She was dressed up…mid-afternoon and before work. She smelled great. I sat across from her lounging on the couch. Then I pulled out my phone to show some videos…moved over to her side. She leaned in…I leaned back. The rest of the two hours was DHV, sexual spikes: Questions Game; ever had a foreign lover? Her: I haven’t “dated” for 3 years—too busy, traveling etc etc. I paused. Looked into her eyes. I could see that micro-twitching indicating she was turned on. I was serious. I teased her. She asked me questions. I leaned in to kiss her on both cheeks–it was a hugely public venue in front of my work.
But the tension was all there. Later I texted to confirm our next meet up….more banter…I amped up the sexualizing…sent her a photo of a paddle, said if she didn’t behave she’d get spanked. She countered saying it looked like a spatula for cooking… “cook those buns”…whatever, it’s all nonsense but it serves to move the interaction forward. She’s all fired up about meeting up and “challenging” me with more Questions….
Logistics suck at this point because our timetables don’t match for me to bring her back just yet. But the long game is meet, amp up, disappear for a few weeks, then third meet is at my place….attraction, comfort, roll-off, reappear.
On the other one, haven’t replied yet…will send her a food photo of my own—a mussel that looks like shaved pussy…see how that turns into banter.
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@wala
+1 on Sentient’s advice…
that main point is that the sexualizing comes from YOU…not from her…if it is from her then SHE is leading, not you…read Rational Male’s mental point of origin post for more details/background concept…another way to view this is that you are still in her frame…and you need to get her into your frame…
‘go the full asshole’ is probably what it will feel like, but it’s more about getting the right mindset…when you FEEL like a walking hard-on = perfect frame…lol…and at this point, ANY non-sexualized interaction with her will just spin the guard dog situ up more…
and along with that…from the other post…
“@HABD great post. I think I’ll start by sending food photos that look sexual…when she protests I’ll start to move this into incepting the idea it’s her that has the sexual intent….when she protests….I’ll suggest her coming over,”
no…that’s trying to pretend that she has sexualized your interaction… YOU have to ACTUALLY lead her by owning the sexualizing of the interaction…it’s a fine point, but it’s really important…being embarrassed about your sexual needs/wants = beta…own it = alpha…that frame should tell you everything you need to do…
“On the other two numbers: one doesn’t live in my city and was visiting so we’ll see. The second is always working but wanted to find a time…anytime….and then plan to meet up. With that keenness I figured I should strike while the iron is hot and set up the Day 1 as casual for the Day 2 at my place. We’ll see how that plays out. It’s worked before.”
no…SNL…(push for that…or cut off your c@ck…lol)
tough love bro…get your head straightened out…bc you seem to be back-sliding into beta/FI land (we all do this – mine was last spring…alpha fatigue sets in and you just want to go find a nice blue pill blanket to cuddle up under…)…either that or that last girl was REALLY hot…lol…and seriously, at least review YaReally’s pLTR posts…i think they would help you get your perspective back…
the Day 1/Day 2 concept of dating is an advanced beginner/barely intermediate model (at best)…it’s main purpose was/is to get men who would normally take 6 to 8 dates to MAYBE get a make-out…to have some structure on actually getting to sex. and 2 dates is sufficiently fast enough to at least ping a girl’s hindbrain alpha fux circuit (bc it’s so fast… but only as compared to normal beta bux dating…) BUT (and you knew that was coming…lol) to REALLY ping those alpha fux tingles = 2 hours meet to bang (it used to be 7 hours, but FI’s open hypergamy is working its magic on society)…bc her hindbrain gets a ‘sexy son’ in 9 months…
good luck!
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habd. Good post. Will update if anything interesting comes out of this… I got the idea and the blind spots you point out
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Multikulti Cologne http://www.welt.de/politik/deutschland/article150611629/Sexualdelikte-in-sehr-massiver-Form.html getting
Tldr: Gang rapes, looting, shooting fireworks at crowd, the future of germany
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[…] if Trump wins, the attempts to back track will be quick and mind-fuckingly (thanks, Heartiste) […]
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http://freedompowerandwealth.com
Increasing you own power is much easier than most people think – probably because they have never had a clue about how human hierarchies work.
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I should preface my comment that I haven’t practiced game much for some time,though I’ve still checked in here to read up. I’ve read yareally’s comments on lasering, but it seems some of my best interactions occurred when I tuned out and paid less attention to the target at times. For instance, almost immediately after approaching a group, as my friend would have one or more of lthe girls engaged,I would deliberately turn my back on them and look across the bar or turn to the side as if I found them uninteresting. It seemed to have the effect of raising my smv, as if I was more important than them, and they wanted to raise to my level and get my attention. Once engaged I would then laser them.
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You never want to appear needy [or butthurt] to a woman. After mastering a perfect ZFG Internal Frame, it ought to start showing on your face and in your body language. And once it shows externally, her hamster & her hindbrain can sense that YOU HAVE OPTIONS [even if you don’t, and it’s all a calculated mirage on your part]. Then sensing your options, her hamster & her hindbrain want to jump into cat-fight mode and slay all of her competition for you, or at least to work her v@g up the ladder to the coveted position of #1 Plate…
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BTW, that’s one reason that “Hangover Game” is so very awesome – because when you’ve got a hangover, you really truly are in pure ZFG mode – all social conventions and manners and politeness and hesitation and nervousness and anxiety have been temporarily removed from your existence while your liver is working overtime to filter all of that poison out of you and start healing your body again.
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prescription opiate game is better :p
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MSM reporting on Muslim hordes in Germany: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-35231046
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“The justice minister warned against linking the crimes to the issue of migrants and refugees.”
Yet of the few arrested, all had asylum-seeking status papers… go figure.
Note that this wasn’t merely Cologne either… reports of the same in Hamburg, Stuttgart, and who knows how many minor incidents in other towns.
But the “justice” minister “warned against” any bad thoughts. 😡
Somebody needs to take said “justice” minister’s daughters out to the train stations (no pun intended, but ya got one anyway) during upcoming carnival.
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The train stations were shut down in every major city here on New Year’s. No details were given other than terror incidents were feared. Now we know why.
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Well, alrighty then! Here’s your opportunity, before carnival is in full bloom, to do your civic duty, as per Ms. Reker, and go out and ‘splain to them yutes what the Germans consider appropriate celebration, in two easy steps:
1) No sexual frankness
2) Refer to 1)
I have a dream… of a few dozen or more motivated old men with canes that just happen to twist apart and become swords or spears of a kind… standing around the train stations during these, our celebratory times, minding their own business… but for subtly escorting groups of young Whites to their destinations.
That’s MY idea of Guardian Angels. 😉
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O/T but Kirkpatrick has a good post up on VDare, detailing how even a Black columnist at Slate gets a bit of it on Oregon and the Bundy’s. The implicit message is that you can push today’s Whites around quite a bit, but when they finally push back, it’s not with feral, disorganized polar bear thwacks. http://www.vdare.com/posts/stopped-clock-alert-even-liberal-black-columnist-jamelle-bouie-admits-oregonunderattack-isnt-true
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LOL. Agnostic’s parody lyrics sung to the tune of “Ironic” by Alanis Morissette. Pretty brilluant:
http://akinokure.blogspot.com/2016/01/iconic-trump-based-parody-of-ironic.html?m=1
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That’s beautiful and this line rocks: It’s like ten-thousand Jews, when all you need is a white
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Great lyrics. Maybe last verse should have been
Well Gov has a funny way of selling out on youuu
But Gov has a funny, funny way
Of selling you out
Rubbing you out
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CH,
This is insane – German media refuses to publish sexual assualts in one night b/c the hundreds of attackers “appeared to have a North African or Arabic background”
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/06/world/europe/coordinated-attacks-on-women-in-cologne-were-unprecedented-germany-says.html
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Money quotes:
Heh, heh… they’ll “explain” how to behave to the sandstorm.
Madame Reker, sexual “assault” does not constitute “frankness”.
(((SHAKIN’ MAH HAID))):mad:
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But it is progress that the NYT feels compelled to suggest, however tepidly, the cowardliness of German media. IMO, the NYT would not have done so a year ago. This is part of the Overton shift, courtesy of Trump, the European Invasion, and us, the Racial Right.
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A nice little piece from the NY Times: http://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/06/world/europe/coordinated-attacks-on-women-in-cologne-were-unprecedented-germany-says.html
BERLIN — German authorities said on Tuesday that coordinated attacks in which young women were sexually harassed and robbed by hundreds of young men on New Year’s Eve in the western city of Cologne were unprecedented in scale and nature.
The assault, which went largely unreported for days, set off a national outcry after the Cologne police described the attackers as young men “who appeared to have a North African or Arabic” background, based on testimony from victims and witnesses. More than 90 people have filed legal complaints, the police said on Tuesday.
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This is really the fresh New Republic cover–
https://newrepublic.com/article/124391/yes-she-can
Is there truly at present no legitimate source for “news”? Someone could really make a killing here
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He be one of them thar pundits.
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your writings are hateful and misogynistic, besides promoting threat towards and overt and implicit mistreatment of women. Guys don’t need to resort to manipulative tactics and puerile behaviourial patterns in order to attract the opposite sex. Just be honest with yourself and the object of your attraction and you should be fine. but encouraging head games is worrisome and reveals deep-seated insecurities when dealing with women.
[CH: loving women, flaws and all, is the farthest thing from insecurity. as for head games, men wouldn’t do them if women didn’t want them.]
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Good grief, Heartiste.
I dared click the Mike Ma Vine cringe video on your Twitter.
Saw about 4 minutes of it.
Stopped the video at that point to go buy a 5600ft spool of rope and an industrial oven.
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Marriage?
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M*rriage.
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Assad’s wife is pretty hot
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Disappointed that no mention has been made on CH about the disgusting events in Cologne on New Years Eve.
[CH: what more is there to say? if rotherham wasn’t enough to open eyes, nothing will.]
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The Spirit Within:
“What you call Trump’s “having fun” has already led the Somali terrorist group Al-Shabaab to use video of his words to recruit more motherfuckers to extreme Islam.
Trump’s response? “I have to say what I have to say.” Total fucking non-comment. Circular reasoning. Like Bush saying, “My strength is my strength.”
A Trump presidency (which thankfully won’t happen) would accelerate this recruitment process — and seriously endanger our access to the Middle Eastern oil that our society currently relies upon for its existence.”
Reminded me of an excerpt from a column by David Cole (http://takimag.com/article/donald_trump_carnage_recruiter_david_cole/print#ixzz3wQl7cLEZ):
“Here’s the new talking point, repeated again and again by newsmakers over the past two weeks: Donald Trump is the top recruiter for ISIS. The gist is, Trump’s “total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the United States” comment is “making” Muslims join ISIS. Trump’s suggestion of a blanket ban is enough to make Muslims say, “To hell with my life, my family, my job…I’m going to join ISIS, because Donald Trump made a sweeping, indiscriminate generalization devoid of nuance.”
So much for the “Muslims are as afraid of ISIS as we are” talking point. Apparently, all it takes to get Muslims to sign up for a life of terrorism is one speech. I mean, joining ISIS is no small commitment; it’s not like changing your vote come Election Day, or registering for a different party. The political and media elites really want us to believe that all it takes to get Muslims to devote their lives to ISIS is a speech by Donald Trump.
The notion that average Muslims teeter so precariously on the brink of “going jihad” that one speech by a businessman-politician could cause them to chuck their normal lives and throw in with a bunch of murderous sadists reflects, at its core, a truth—one that the apologists have for years been trying to avoid: “Ordinary” Muslims become radicalized far more readily and with greater frequency than the rest of us. Again and again we hear of Muslim terrorists who “only recently” embraced jihad, often with such speed that friends and family members barely had time to notice. In a previous piece, I likened the ease with which Muslims can become radicalized to the ease with which the elderly can get pneumonia. It doesn’t mean that only the elderly get pneumonia, or that all elderly people get pneumonia; it just means that they are more likely to get it.”
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Yeah, agreed. But imagine if Trump were to become the Face of America, broadcast around the world, beneath the American flag and above the presidential seal. Imagine the millions of ignorant Muslims for whom a photo is worth a thousand words. Our relationship with the Muslim world, both through official channels and informally, would be horribly effected, and you’d undoubtedly see more Muslim people moving to form anti-Western groups.
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Those anti-Western Muslim groups wouldn’t exist if we didn’t fund and arm them to help overthrow governments who won’t play ball. Under a Trump admin, anti-Western terrorists will be sitting in the sand, not driving around in Humvees with shiny new weapons.
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Strapon, being a woman, comes off as an appeasement-minded coward when impersonating a man.
She doesn’t understand that gestures of submission embolden opportunistic aggressors like Arabs, and that demonstrations of integrity (what in pop lingo is known as “drawing boundaries”) pacify them.
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