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I read a story once in which Jack Nicholson, Warren Beatty, Robert Redford, and Clint Eastwood were all at a party. The producer Robert Evans reported that ALL of the women there gravitated to just one of the four. I have quizzed women on which of the four they think it was, and most of them get the answer right: [REDACTED]
I know the answer. Maybe readers can guess which alpha commanded all the female attention.
Hint: Don’t think like a man. Think like a woman. What kind of man do women love more than men admire? The word starts with a J.
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And the one man of the four alphas who got all the gina tingles is….

The readers guessed right. Their Chateau training is paying off.
Many commenters quote stories and do personality assessments that reveal why Jack was so alluring to women.
jack nicholson has a dynamic personality that along with ZFG includes a good sense of humor and some real acting ability. he seems like he would be a blast to hang out with and he also seems have some depth and wisdom.
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I vote Jack– cinematically, he’s played the most psychos and truly dangerous men. Kubrick wanted him for Napoleon. Supposedly a huge jerk in real life too.
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A sexy woman walked up to Nicholson at a party and asked him “Do you want to dance?” Jack looked her up and down and said “Wrong verb” [ed: try hearing this in your head with jack’s voice. pussy parting perfection.]
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If thought like a man it would be Redford, the most pretty boy of all four. But the jerkiest is Nicholson, so I vote for him.
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Eastwood’s strong, silent type would win in a stern age of purpose. The answer has to be Jack Nicholson, he’s the coolest.
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So for me, it came down to Nicholson versus Eastwood. The other three are almost exactly the same age, but Eastwood is several years older, so I was going to give it to Clint based on that plus his simple physical masculinity – voice, height, attitude – when I read the clue and realized I was thinking like a man: Eastwood is more conventionally alpha than Nicholson, but women go for the jerk.
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Beatty: try-hard alpha
Eastwood: leader of men
Redford: borderline beta
Nicholson: Joker smile.
The Joker it is.***
Thinking like a man, I would have thought Eastwood. However both Jack and Warren were known as real lady’s men. As per the hint, I’ll say Jack. But his appeal eludes me. I guess it was his “bad boy” image.
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A shitlib, a cuckservative, a shabbos goy and a crazy man walk into a bar . . .
. . . and the women choose wisely.
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Faggy ‘looks are everything’ types would say Robert Redford. [ed: yup. they’ll never learn.]
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Why would Jack Nicholson get all the actual action, but Redford would get the most verbal praise if women saw pictures of all four? [ed: to ask is to answer.]
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One final point, as I stated in previous post, who gets raped in prison of the four? Redford is wearing lipstick and has his shirt tied off showing his tummy. Beatty is more reluctant but after being promised protection by who he thinks can protect him joins in to stay alive. Clint and Jack you have to kill to fuck, just that simple.
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Redford is the guy that would get the most love based on looks alone. If women saw photos of these four guys, they’d pick Redford. Yet in a real-life situation they’d fuck Nicholson over Redford.
I’ve noticed this is in real life as well. There is a tremendous disparity between the men that women say they find attractive, and the ones they actually have a strong desire to fuck. Pretty-boy vs alpha. Comments / further explanation? [ed: check the CH archives. there are more than a few posts on this very topic.]
Good insight and powers of inference from the readers. Well done. Here is an article about Jack’s legendary ladykiller skills.
According to biographer Marc Eliot, the pair [nicholson and streep] weren’t discussing the script. He claims the trailer would rock around with such energy that it seemed to be balanced on thin springs — ‘four overworked Slinkys’, as one alleged witness put it […]
Even before he was famous, the parties that Jack Nicholson would throw — the sex, drinks and drugs — were well-known in Sixties Tinseltown. At what was dubbed the ‘wildest house in Hollywood’, Nicholson presided over ‘round-the-clock partying, drinks, drugs, sex . . . and beautiful, hot, willing girls who loved to get just as high as the boys and have a good time,’ […]
Having divested himself of his wife and daughter, after the former grew tired of his womanising and divorced him, the eternal bachelor moved into a mansion next door to Marlon Brando and down Mulholland Drive from Warren Beatty. (The road was dubbed Bad Boy Drive in their honour).
Though Beatty was a legendary skirt-chaser, Hollywood insiders say Nicholson left him standing when it came to success with women. Indeed, the pair would play childish tit-for-tat games in trying to steal girlfriends off each other. […]
Naturally, Nicholson exploited the sexual opportunities stardom gave him. Making his debut as a director in the 1971 film drama Drive, He Said, Nicholson decided that in-depth research was needed to find the perfect girl for the brief non-sexual nudity in the film.
Stoned on cannabis, he auditioned more than 100 attractive young actresses in his Hollywood office, making each disrobe in front of him and then subjecting them to a ‘near-medical examination’. […]
Nicholson reputedly slept with 2,000 women (he modestly insists he never counted), but the one that lasted the longest — 17 years amazingly — was Anjelica Huston.
She was 14 years his junior and admitted he fulfilled a paternal need in her. ‘Jack is very definitely a real man, one who gets your blood going,’ she told Eliot.
It was just as well he did, as she had to put up with a lot of cheating. […]
Age difference never bothered Nicholson. He was the other side of 50 when he began an affair with 19-year-old British actress Karen Mayo-Chandler. Stripping off for Playboy later, she told the magazine Nicholson was a ‘naughty little boy’ and ‘guaranteed non-stop sex machine into fun and games, like spankings, handcuffs, whips and Polaroid pictures’.
Jerkboy Jack is a patron saint of Le Chateau.

What they do… Not what they say.
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1964. Clint Eastwood skateboarding in Rome.

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Real Life Clint Eastwood > Fake Hugh Jackman Wolverine
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Different world Cappy.
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Thought it was Eastwood then saw the hint below. Look how low Sundance is.
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He did quite a bit of work with them woppish guidos.
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Indeed he did. Clint’s westerns he did in Italy were known as Spaghetti Westerns and most of them were filmed in Italia!
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The spaghetti westerns were filmed, for the most part, in Spain, although the director, Sergio Leone, was Italian. The cast was a mix of American and Italian actors. Much of Spain is a high desert that resembles the American Southwest.
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[…] Four Alphas Enter A Bar… […]
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OT:
I would like to get some readers here thinking seriously of meeting up in Germany in February-May 2016 to investigate the mass rape firsthand, and possibly to take part in street actions against the Afro-Arab invaders.
Anyone interested?
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Is something being planned on a wide scale over there, and they’re looking for a bit of brotherly support from across the pond?
Or is this a renegade effort on your own accord? (Didn’t ask anyone’s permission, just thought it up and did it… what balls.)
I can find an excuse to visit relatives up near Bremen, but I’m not looking to step off the plane, only to be escorted to the next outgoing flight back home. 😉
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I just want to wing it and see what happens and have some adventure.
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If I had the scratch I’d be up for it. We’ll see how this year plays out.
Never been to Germany, always love a great reason to visit a new country.
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I admit, I’m intrigued…
I’d like to see how the authorities handle the initial carnival proceedings, as well as investigate a few more things on this end, as far as shuffling priorities and such.
If they’re just going to crack down on White men while dozens, if not hundreds, of shitskins band together and hold sway on the streets, then further consideration of another endeavor might be in order.
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Wouldn’t get my hopes up. A lot more has to happen. If you think you got it bad in the U.S. come to Germany and see how liberal left-wing hippie media is turning around the situation and blaming a general rape culture of men, comparing the assaults to singular incidents at the annual Oktoberfest, denying the fact that the majority of the assailants were asylum-seekers (coming from safe countries who have no legal reason to be here in the first place).
Give it a couple of more days and it’s back to normal. No borders, everbody welcome and whoever dares to advice against it must be some racist nazi bastard.
Regards from Nuremberg.
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We’ll deal with it once we’re there.
Attitude needs improvement, tbh.
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What about marching through Munich during Oktoberfest? If I get in a German street fight, I want to be wearing lederhosen with my Bane mask. And then guzzle from huge steins afterwards, with busty blondes in dirndls.
Pitch it right and you’ll raise an army.
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How about Ryu?
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Angry Germans confront die Polizei:
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Goodness. If you are not doing it for the ‘training’, you don’t have a single sound reason in theory, much less an adequate reason in fact. The sound reasons for not doing as you propose are overwhelming. The disease is the solution. It will kill or make vulnerable the more pressing issue, or ‘they’ actually win. History is pretty clear that corruption can’t achieve a sustainable advantage and a winning end state, but virtue is likewise and never holds on for the false virtue of being nice or tolerant but really its the naturally true virtue of milking the generations before and after if it pays. Might makes right. Nature sucks that way. Religion will not stop change, btw. Play the changes, bent them, and for khreests sake don’t directly oppose the stupidity of the masses. You GAF. Probable the next Western civilization will come from whites who were or pretended to be muzzies or whose parents were or pretended. You are trying to play the natural masculine game but this is the natural feminine game of deception and intrigues and opportunism. This is decline and bottom will require elbow room enough for men to openly act like men and win. A ways to go yet. Adapt. Overcome.
tl;dr -> http://captaincapitalism.blogspot.com/2016/01/western-women-dont-deserve-protection.html
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@Kate Minter
LOL Ryu, Street Fighter. Takes me back to skipping school and hanging out at the arcade. Good times.
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@Laguna
I will be in East Germany in mid-March and plan on attending PEGIDA rallies and doing some personal detective work regarding the ongoing migrant crisis.
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Googling, i get more results for “clint eastwood jerk” and “robert redford jerk” than “jack nicholson jerk” and “warren beatty jerk”. Cant tell between clint eastwood and robert redford, though.
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‘The word starts with a J.’
Jerk, Jackass, Jack Nicholson.
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Chicks dig jerks. Thus I went with Jack.
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Jack is the only one that strikes me as having zfg style and attitude
Redford seems like a sentimental beta, the type that postmenopausal women swoon for. he’s far too self conscious and preening to have real pull with hotties. for a fling sure, but not as a real skill. he has that try-hard, carefully-created, “I’m a Hollywood pretty boy” persona. Beatty too. Eastwood has a little of that too, though maybe a little tougher.
Jack seems to have that balls-to-the-wall, “I’m gonna take a dump on Hollywood” attitude
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Yup. Jack.
Warren Beatty is alpha, but not all that edgy.
Clint Eastwood is certainly ZFG and does his own thing, but doesn’t have nearly as much of Jack’s psychopathic, sexual air.
Robert Redford strikes me as one of those prettyboys who gets girls based on looks but acts beta once they actually get into a relationship.
All in all, the voting results align with my impression: the Jack > Eastwood = Beatty > Redford.
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Joker
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exactly. z-fn-g
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I was going to say Clint, but I don’t know how much of a jerk he is in real life compared to his most famous roles, i.e., The Man With No Name, Dirty Harry. So it’s got to be Jack.
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For jerk quotient on Clint, one must go to Sanda Locke.
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Yeah, I always thought it weird that Clint went for that mousey little Locke… and I also always thought her phoniness and bitchiness were palpable, even when she was trying to play sweet in the roles he tossed her way.
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> “phoniness and bitchiness” ——— Crazy in the head == CRAZY IN BED. Maybe Clint is a BPD widower?
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Wasn’t Eastwood married to some mischling Phillipina-looking gal early in his career? Or am I thinking of someone else?
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Definitely Jerk Nicholson. However, Clint Eastwood can come off as a jerk in much of his filmography (and women often have a child’s grasp of reality) Warren Beatty is a dick-copter (catnip) and I don’t know about Robert Redford. Equal parts Nicholson speaking his mind without any regard for others and wishful thinking, I go with as good as it gets.
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OT game post, but sort of related.
Text convo I had with a chick recently.
Her: You’ve made me so horny today. Can’t wait to see you again.
Her: Can I ask you a question?
Me: Yes, it is a full 8 inches.
Her: Lol. Are you sleeping with anybody else atm?
Me: Only your sister
Her: So no?
Me: Haha, why would you ask me that? You sound like my wife. Except my wife is on vacation at the moment.
Her: Haha. What are you doing this weekend?
Run of the mill shit test, but notice how you have to shift the frame slightly when she persists beyond the smart-ass flirty responses. CH has touched on this before. One or two smart-ass responses is good game, but being a total shitlord with zero sincerity is too transparent. The “Why would you ask me that?” is a solid reframe in this situation.
Note this: A chick who’s horny and can barely control herself around you will shit test you to find any excuse to lose those out-of-control tingles. They’re scary for her, because they’re real, and so few real-life guys give them to her. Don’t give her the easy excuse she needs to extinguish them by answering her concerns like a sperg.
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Well done.
Your best move was not to respond to ‘me so horny. . .
This is nitpicking but the “Haha, why would you ask me . . .” is a bit weak.
“a gentleman never tells” would build comfort and still be obtuse.
Never answer their questions directly
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“A gentlemen never tells” isn’t nearly as effective because it’s too much like a yes.
A f-buddy needs just enough hamster pellets to rationalize that you’re not banging 35 other chicks.
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Naw, “why would you ask me that?” is perfect when followed by “You sound like my WIFE.
Nothing says more about the true nature of women than the fact that a band on the left hand gets more to land.
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“A gentleman never tells” is too rom-com. I can imagine Hugh Grant saying it. Full marks Mr Meaner, but I’d switch your long text for this:
My wife, but she’s away 😦 Nobody fucks like her.
Give her a challenge she can’t resist.
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Nice. Agree and amplify is a terrific salve for slut guilt. The best part is that she still has no idea if you’re banging anyone else.
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Well done. I just had a similar one with hb7 25 year old I was banging who’s been sending me nude selfies for the last 4 months while traveling . She’s back. I text her to meet up:
Me: rest up let’s meet 8pm locstion
Her: fuck you like giving orders
Me: I’m a man you’re a woman
Her: fuck don’t forget I’m a feminist
Me: I send her a pop art cartoon from 30’s of dapper guy in suit spanking a hot young girl with the caption “that Otta knock some sense into you”
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MM, if she wants you this bad, then why not reward her with WHYTE BUNZ -> WHYTE OVEN?!? The Good Lord only gives her just a precious few years of fertility before she becomes an old shrivelled-up prune of a hag; let her have some kidz sired by your uber-awesome Alpha Sh!tlord seed.
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I’m going to use the “sound like my wife” line RIGHT NOW on a 20 yr old who is asking me if we’re exclusive. She continually is tryin to wife me up
Let u know how she responds.
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Well done Meaner… well done.
Side Note – if you are working text game and getting a girl to send pics and you get into “now you send one of you” shit tests try this. send back a pic of your two fingers like they are legs walking on a table and your thumb sticking out from your “crotch” like a giant cock… LOL
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better yet send her this and tell her it’s you in 3rd grade, which explains your attraction for each other:

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nothing says ZFG like showing that you don’t take yourself too seriously
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Looks like Pajama Boy circa preschool.
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LOL but prob not since eskimos’ Achilles’ heel is their pride of their “high intelligence”
btw this works as zfg only if you’re not likely to be mistaken as actually retarded, and you’re main problem is being too intimidating to women, rather than not being taken seriously by them
contrast is king kinda thing
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The wife joke should be shorter.
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well fucking done Meaner, top notch. agree with the shift in frame; there has to be some slight amount of accessibility or you’ll come off as try-hard.
the other takeaway here is that you want her genuinely wondering whether you’re banging other chicks. if you’re going to err, err on the side of confirming. i’m sure most betas would respond truthfully with a ‘nah’ or the like. a step above that is to imply that you are without directly saying it, which Otsuka suggests. but the master move is to neg her without giving anything away, as Meaner does perfectly here. let her hamster run fucking wild while she regrets bringing it up in the first place.
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Redford is the guy that would get the most love based on looks alone. If women saw photos of these four guys, they’d pick Redford. Yet in a real-life situation they’d fuck Nicholson over Redford.
I’ve noticed this is in real life aswell. There is a tremendous disparity between the men that women say they find attractive, and the ones they actually have a strong desire to fuck. Pretty-boy vs alpha. Comments / further explanation?
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True
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gotta be Jack…he can deliver an artful neg like no one’s business.
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Redford?
Blonde guys rarely are alpha.
We’re like friendly dogs with floppy ears vs. those swarthy pointy eared wolves.
Gentlemen may prefer blondes….
But according to women: “Tall, dark and handsome for the win….”
And I’m saying this as a pretty fair colored blonde guy… no matter my unique recessive charms.
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the rarity of blond alphas is probably somewhat related to aging, I’d think. Naturally blond men getting to peak alphadom in late twenties may have already had their hair darken somewhat, to a dark sandy blond/light brown, ala Trump in his peak fucking years (he dyes it now).
Blonde hair on women is the opposite, a youth indicator, though I’d disagree with labgeek evo biologists who claim that is the only reason men like it.
[CH: the evo bio theory for blondeness that sounds most right to me is that it evolved in women under conditions favoring male sexual market choice, as the equivalent of bright plumage that allowed the women who had that color hair to stand out more from drabber women.]
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CH, agreed, with the important caveat that its not just male sexual choice, but also environmental conditions that punished promiscuity, that evolved White female beauty. Given unfettered alpha male choice, evolution doesn’t favor female beauty, less savory women can always find a harem to join and pop out an ugly kid (see: ghettos, Africa). But when men are forced to focus their gametes on one woman, and there is a shortage of men, only the most beautiful women will have children. Dangerous hunting conditions which gave a mass die off of men and a high need for male parental investment is what produced Novel hair and eye colors, white skin, and slim figured women.
How to increase female beauty (in genetic quality, not just fat shaming) should be a niche manosphere topic, but its very low time preference and the conclusions will be unpleasant: a lot of men would have to die, and biological conditions would have to enforce monogamy. Seeing as how those conditions are unlikely to click into place again, the focus should be on conserving and reproducing the beauty we have, but any efforts to do that have been a failure thus far. It is, in my opinion, the greatest tragedy out of the many tragedies that cultural marxism has wrought, and a reason that disgust for miscegnation is justified.
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perfectly plausible that blonde hair/hair blue eyes is the result of selective breeding.
it’s assumed that humans have always had free will regarding who to mate with, and that all children are reared to adulthood unless some illness or tragedy claims them.
but I can imagine that some tribal warlord with fair features and a bunch of wives would have no trouble culling his offspring to favor those with his features. or an entire tribe doing same to favor the king, etc.
also inbreeding was not always taboo, pairing off equally fair-haired cousins or siblings in ancient times would not necessarily have been considered bad policy
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Lithuania 3000 BC would be your ground zero if you’re looking for evidence of tribal warlord culling non-blond children, as that seems to be where blond hair spread from.
I think the sexual selection hypothesis is most encompassing explanation, and it definitely would concur that parents would provision more to fairer children, not just because they looked like them, but because they were more evolutionarily valuable.
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In the seventies, women’s first choice (leastwise on their lips) was always Robert Redford… followed by Warren Beatty. Clint was still doing B grade stuff and Nicholson was The Actor without really being a sex symbol… most women found Carnal Knowledge a bit off-putting, and his other roles were just over-the-top kinda guys.
So, in their respective primes, guys like Redford handled his weight, even though none of the above, outside of Clint, were considered tall.
Other “short” alphas with blonde hair: McQueen, of course… Alan Ladd, Richard Widmark.
And like the other poster said, blonde hair on guys and most gals usually disappears in their twenties and turns light brownish… unless they get an awful lot of sun… back in the day, every summer mine own would regain its golden hue.
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But as an historian, you have to admit that the only films from that era which stand the test of time are the “B grade stuff” from Eastwood. Q: When was the last time you saw “Heaven Can Wait” or “B.C. & the S.D. Kid?” A: Thirty years ago? Q: When was the last time you saw Josey Wales? A: Uhh, yesterday? No, wait, this morning?
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Standing the test of time and getting innumerable showings on the hundreds of cable channels that have to “fill the card” are two different things.
That said, yes, even those B movies bear rewatching. Hell, I even liked Bronco Billy.
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If you want to see a lighter side of Clint watch the Every Which Way But… films. Amusing.
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“But as an historian, you have to admit that the only films from that era which stand the test of time are the “B grade stuff” from Eastwood. . . .”
Well, I might go even further and say that Clint’s directorial greatness was in movies like TOJW, Pale Rider, the David Lynchean “Sudden Impact”, and so on. And in the supoosed drought between his first wave of Oscar bait (Bird to A Perfect World) and the second (Mystic River to—?) he made some more good genre pictures. I wouldn’t say all the Oscar-bait isn’t up to snuff, but I will say that Unforgiven and Mystic River have major problems, Million Dollar Baby the obvious ones (dubious moral, GrrlPwrer, and also a lot of Creative Writing class sub-Raymond Carver too-neatness), etc.
Now, I haven’t seen Heaven Can Wait in 25 years– but I DID dream about it a couple of months ago, funnily enough. I want to see it again, if only for the final scene with Julie Christie which somehow managed to haunt my subconscious (tho it may be nothing).
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Never much did care for Million Dollar Baby. Interesting you brought up Carver. I enjoy his work. Granted, this was after having seen the film, and I don’t recall it well.
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Alexander the Great was blond and Julius Caesar was a redhead. I was blond until my 20s and was an alpha football player. Jus’ sayin’
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I was blond until my 20s and was an alpha football player. Jus’ sayin’
“same here bro…” – DJT
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Same here: Blond Beast.
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I guessed Beatty. His and Jack’s jerkboy charisma is beyond question, so it could be either.
Its funny that the babes would gravitate to only one of the men. Shows that pussy always gravitates to the apex, no matter what.
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I’m thinking the story is a bit apocryphal… still, a topic of wry cocktail chatter is seldom unappreciated.
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Hey Teddy Bro-sevelt, I read in playboy many moons ago that the guy who the writer saw pull the most sweet tail was Dennis Rodman.
He wrote, I’ve seen Troy Aikman at Honky Tonks, Mickey Rourke in coke hazed LA model hang-outs. But no one got more attention than weirdo, purple haired show-off Rodman.
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BS… Disagree completely… Saw the fag nizzer at a night club in Miami 15 yrs ago, height of his whatever… He had a table with lots women… Knew a girl who worked at the nightclub, she told me he paid them all to be there… Now that his money is gone where are the women, when do you hear about him… Nicholson could be living in a cardboard box pushing 80 which he is and still pull more.
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I used to know some of the crowd that partied at Rodman’s house in Newport Beach late ’90s-early ’00s. Cool parties, and that’s what they were there for. By all accounts a weird dude.
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Nicholson’s living in a cardboard box?
Damn!
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Well, Broseiden, king of the Brocean… if you read it in Playboy, it must be true!
Let me guess… was the writer of an Arctic bent?
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i guessed jack but unlike most of the other commenters, it wasn’t only because he seems like an asshole. too easy to simplify it like that but there’s a lot more to it.
jack nicholson has a dynamic personality that along with ZFG includes a good sense of humor and some real acting ability. he seems like he would be a blast to hang out with and he also seems have some depth and wisdom.
girls want a lot more than just asshole. if jack didn’t have all those other things going for him and he was just your average asshole with no personality, he wouldn’t be man in the room getting all the attention.
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It’s Beatty. Carly Simon even wrote a song about him. About him being a self-centered jerk. The only thing that keeps me from falling in line behind him is that he is and was a major libtard. No man with true brass balls can be a liberal.
Nicholson didn’t really move into alphadom until a decade later.
Redford was a pretty boy, as was Clint Eastwood.
Eastwood fails at that point in his life because he couldn’t see himself worthy of more than the low quality Sandra Locke.
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Well, to be fair, Redford had some meaty roles in the seventies (e.g. Jeremiah Johnson, Gatsby, Bob Woodward, etc.) and even won Best Director in 1980, so he was obviously more than just a pretty face.
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Woman worshiped Redford in the seventies. The Sting & Butch Cassidy made him the the pretty boy and the rugged sidekick. But chick flick The Way We Were with the fug Babs Streisand made woman swoon. If that party was in the seventies woman would have flew to Redford like moths to a lamp.
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An easkimo, a greaser, and a spook all enter a bar.
The bartender says: ” Get the fuck outa here.
What does a tortoise and a pedofill have in common?
They both want to get there before the haire
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Watch, “The Departed”, 3 or 4 times and you will have your answer.
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I thought that flick a bit overrated… Nicholson was just creepy, though we were supposed to admire is alphaness… it was all too try-hard.
I will give DiCaprio credit, though… it was the first film of his that he played a CONVINCING tough guy, rather than a pretty boy trying to live up to a role.
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That film had the trademark Scorsese soundtrack, with nice nod to Sail On Sailor (not Steve.) But you’re right about Jacko. He went over the top and the film as a whole wasn’t cohesive.
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The asian original version “Infernal Affairs” is way better, if you can stand watching non-white fiction. The Departed is low class and all around shit when you compare the two.
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It’s easy to just cut-n-paste some songs and call it a soundtrack. I used to be a big admirer of Scorcese, but as time goes on, I find his work not aging well… what passed for “edge” in its time is starting to feel a bit try-hard, even puerile. And he always seems to throw in some PC neener-neener easter eggs somewhere in the script.
For actual soundtracks, I’ll take the old school Enio Morricone or Elmer Bernstein or John Williams.
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You’re talking about scores now, GE. Yeah, by the time The Departed came out it was more of the same. I feel he got it right, just the right dose in both Goodfellas and Casino.
Bernstein had some serious range. From The Magnificent Seven to To Kill A Mockingbird and to round it out with Ghostbusters, of films that stand out.
For a sec, I almost confused him with Bernard Herrmann.
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DiCaprio’s reading of that part was as fine as I’ve seen. He was utterly convincing in that role
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Greg wrote: “It’s easy to just cut-n-paste some songs and call it a soundtrack. I used to be a big admirer of Scorcese, but as time goes on, I find his work not aging well… what passed for “edge” in its time is starting to feel a bit try-hard, even puerile.”
I think “Gimme Shelter”s up to at least four movies now. And think of how he uses, say, Bach in a gangster picture. Siskel & Ebert and company horribly overrated Scorsese. I’ve never understood the supposed Catholic/Calvinist guilt theme in his Paul Schrader collabs, which constitute the core of his canon (Taxi Driver, Raging Bull). His technique is powerful, but a lot of it comes down to kinetic Cuisinart editing, impressive but at bottom largely a maniacal exercise in slice’n’dice. De Palma, Coppola, Bertolucci absolutely made greater films. At this point, Scorsese has worked his muse to death; now, his reputation will forever have the endless stream of desperate Oscar-bait of the past twenty-five years to answer for.
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If I didn’t know any of the actors in that movie, I would say Mr. French comes out on top.
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she fell funny…
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This article makes me think it’s Jack:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2479298/How-married-Meryl-Streep-fell-Jack-Nicholson-Stunning-claim-new-biography.html
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I vote Jack– cinematically, he’s played the most psychos and truly dangerous men. Kubrick wanted him for Napoleon. Supposedly a huge jerk in real life too. But Beatty’s 7000 notch count is presumably highest.
Redford is supposedly considered a dumb drip. But he, Beatty, and Eastwood have won four best director Oscars between them. Of course, they could hardly give Redford one for his acting . . . .
Note: Robert Evans, Hollywood’s most notorious cokehead, is a noted fabulist. I wouldn’t guarantee that any anecdote of his– and they’re all frightfully entertaining– isn’t some kind of score-settling or self-aggrandizement.
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I figured Clint, because he talks the least in his movies.
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A sexy woman walked up to Nicholson at a party and asked him “Do you want to dance?” Jack looked her up and down and said “Wrong verb”
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great line
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[…] Source: Heartiste […]
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Warren Beatty (pre selection)
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If thought like a man it would be Redford, the most pretty boy of all four. But the jerkiest is Nicholson, so I vote for him.
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Eastwood’s strong, silent type would win in a stern age of purpose. The answer has to be Jack Nicholson, he’s the coolest.
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HABD – replying here to your post on the WhatsApp chat thread – Let’s her and her fight.
I have pored over the WhatsApp chat and haven’t made much progress on the questions – at least not with any level of confidence (and I’m not even sure how you could deduce some of this from the chat alone).
I’m just confused basically – I wonder if staring at the exchange more will reveal more subtleties:
1) rank the girls on their hb status
[Again, based on what you’ve said mainly: 1. Gemma 2. Bella 3. Steph and Lisa (unknown – maybe the highest if she had the confidence to exit the chat immediately). But then again if Steph beat Bella to get Tom, then wouldn’t that suggest she was higher than Bella? OTOH, he was clearly in some relationship with Bella and sampled Steph on the side – and then later went to Steph for a relationship so the element of competition is obvious..]
2) would Steph have left the chat group if Bella was still there?
[Since you’ve asked this, I assume the answer is no, but why? It’s Gemma and Bella who are mainly competing..not Steph who appears to be secondary? But then again, it’s almost as if Gemma is above it all and just likes Tom and doesn’t care what he’s done in the past. And Bella is trying to raise her value by putting down Steph, although she doesn’t target Gemma directly. And Steph is responding to Bella’s challenge -]
3) why isn’t Tom seeing Steph anymore?…
[No idea but I assume it was fairly serious between them – she knows his mother and is in touch with her. Maybe he didn’t want to settle down since it looks like she did? She says she was worried about him when they were still in a relationship – maybe because he still slept around and she couldn’t lock him down?]
4) or Bella?…
[Well, it seems clear he left Bella for Steph – but is there more to it than that?]
5) what rolodex play did Steph use after her concern troll attempt failed?…
[After the rolodex play, Bella leaves, and then Steph gives Tom the finger and leaves – not sure how to describe that, It’s just storming off in the hope that he’ll chase her right? Plus of course, Steph’s competition target has always been Bella and Bella’s gone, so..]
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Redford always had something a little soft about him and he’s very blond which, all else equal, is feminine, so I put him at the bottom of the list, as does the vote. Beatty has been considerably less visible than the other three in his career over the last two or three decades, suggesting some problem with his drive compared to the others.
So for me, it came down to Nicholson versus Eastwood. The other three are almost exactly the same age, but Eastwood is several years older, so I was going to give it to Clint based on that plus his simple physical masculinity – voice, height, attitude – when I read the clue and realized I was thinking like a man: Eastwood is more conventionally alpha than Nicholson, but women go for the jerk.
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You made it too easy with the hint. Otherwise I would have guessed Clint, because he’s the most ZFG of them (Jack is a close second but Clint never clowns). As an actor, Jack is the best of the four by a lot, but as a director, Clint destroys Warren and Redford. Jack appeals the most to women who just want to get laid but I’ll bet Clint pulled innumerable hb10 starlets who also wanted to be in his movies (not saying they were being mercenary either, the director persona triggers the attraction so they would have told themselves they wanted him personally).
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Beatty: try-hard alpha
Eastwood: leader of men
Redford: borderline beta
Nicholson: Joker smile.
The Joker it is.
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Surely, that should have read: Four ACTORS enter a Bar. As women always gravitate to the biggest and nastiest beast in the jungle no matter the opposition only one male can at any one time be The Alpha. In this instance that had to be Nicholson.
Robert “the kid stays in the picture” Evans in a really believable performance as a young bullfighter steals Ava Gardner from Tyrone Power in The Sun also Rises; now that was truly Alpha.
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That was an awesome documentary, btw. Evans nailed it.
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OT but good:
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thanks for posting. very apropos
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Quite puzzled as to why Redford won’t get more votes. From the 4 guys he is the only one who has the smooth, classy ‘Bierce Brosnan in James Bond that women say they are attracted to’ kind of vibe. I think that all the women whom Ive ever asked which James Bond they prefer have told me P.B.
Must be a case of don’t listen to them, look at what they are doing.
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If this were 40 years ago, Redford and Beatty would be the poon-slayers… Redford would pick up all the tree-bark eatin’ yoga babes.
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Why?
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Because they were both at the top of their game in looks and career at the time…
Jack was going strong, acting-wise, but Redford and Beatty were the “sex symbols” of the seventies… and whenever a name came up of boffable leading man, you always heard the name ‘Redford’ from the ladies.
Hell, even Scorcese in Alice Doesn’t Live Here Anymore had Ellen Burstyn gushing over Robert Redford with her friend. (Redford wasn’t in the movie, the girls were just chatting among themselves about who made them wet).
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Ahh,ok I was thinking you refer to something like “mate patterns of women have changed over time”
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Beatty, his jerk game was notorious.
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Was this party in the 1960’s/70’s or at an assisted living facility?
[CH: old hollywood actors pull more hot young tail than most men a third their age. don’t you know it’s different for women?]
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WHOA! Beyond The Valley Of The D(r)olls… thread is over.
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@Greg Eliot
Indeed. Was so obvious, yet came out of left field. (I’ll leave the sex and natural jokes to the resta yas)
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Jack Nicholson chosen by physiognomy.
Not sure if even seen anyone else than Clint Eastwood on the film.
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Thinking like a man, I would have thought Eastwood. However both Jack and Warren were known as real lady’s men. As per the hint, I’ll say Jack. But his appeal eludes me. I guess it was his “bad boy” image
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A shitlib, a cuckservative, a shabbos goy and a crazy man walk into a bar . . .
. . . and the women choose wisely.
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Out of curiosity, what’s Nicholson’s meat world action truly like?
I’ve heard stories that he would show the sex scene outtakes with Jessica Lange from the remake of Postman Always Rings Twice on his yacht and yuck it up with his buddies… not something a true lady-killer would do, in my mind… and I don’t recall hearing Ann-Margret glowing over their romping, on- or off-stage, from Carnal Knowledge.
His main squeeze was Angelica Huston for many years, and quite frankly, she’s not all that.
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Nicholson not giving her any children was a frigging criminal sin. Unless maybe he shoots blanks? My guess is that her Dad made Prizzi’s Honor in one last desperate attempt to get Nicholson to give him some grandchildren.
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There’s a story that after a bad LSD experience in the 60s Nicholson suffered for years from some kind of OCD compulsion that he was gay. I mean, like he went around mentally nattering to himself, “I’m not gay! I’m not gay! I’m not gay!” or something like that.
I’ve also heard he like to put coke on his dick when he was fucking, but apart from Anjelica I can’t even think of any amour he’s supposed to have had.
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(NB: Not that I DOUBTED he had them!)
For what it’s worth, I rocked my impression of Jack’s “The Witches of Eastwick” monologues in high school a LOT
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Heh, heh… I used to crack up get-togethers with his spiel from Cuckoo’s Nest, trying to get the votes to watch the World Series.
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I recall Sean Penn telling a story of being out at a club with Nicholson, and a woman came up and asked if Jack wanted to dance. Jack responded “Wrong verb.”
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This whole argument would be upended if Don Knotts had been at the party.
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Keep it fair, keep it fair.
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No, the other men could stand on their looks or pre-conceived/projected persona alone; whereas, old Don would need time to work the crowd and win them over with his personality (making them forget that he is Barney Fife).
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Not much of a moviegoer, but The Witches of Eastwick was a real eye-opener in my early Red Pill enlightenment. Thus I chose Nicholson before I saw the hint. “What kind of man do women love more than men admire?” Precisely.
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Jack Nicholson would be my bet. His ZFG attitude attracts women like bees to honey. Assuming we’re talking about the group when each of them was in their prime, he’d have been my choice.
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The answer is so obviously Beatty it isn’t even funny. After all, he’s a legendary Lothario. The girls would probably flock to him on that reason alone.
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All of the commentators saying Nicholson aren’t following CH’s hint:
“Think like a man. Think like a woman. What kind of man do women love more than men admire”
Men admire Nicholson and Eastwood but find Beatty a bit repellent.
It’s Beatty.
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LOL at Clint Eastwood being 2nd place even when people where told specifically to think like a chick.
Eastwood, Stallone, Schwarzenegger appeal to men not to women.
Guys like Steve McQueen appeal to both men and women. Men due to being the ultimate hardass and women because he’s ticks all the dark triad checkpoints. He’s a rebel hero where as Eastwood is a good guy first and foremost.
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Funny…Arnold told tales of women coming to the gym specifically to get GB’d by him and the other hulks. Women are not a monolith
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It’s Beatty. Pre-selection. Plus, remember Courtney Love telling Neil Strauss about Warren Beatty in The Game?
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It’s definitely Warren Beatty. There are stories of his former dates complaining he would blow his nose then hand them the used tissues, and another of him calling some A-list actress and cajoling her into coming over to his LA mansion, only to find he was in Paris when she got there.
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j for jerk
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I take j to mean jew, and therefore Beatty. He has that jewish overconfidence that women like, and that men do not. Men want to beat him down off his alpha perch.
Clint Eastwood has the best classical looks. Jack has the true big-balls personality. Re Redford, i agree with the characterizations from his blond hair and easy-going appeal to yoga women. He is the odd man out, somehow.
He is in a good movie Downhill Racer where he shows quiet confidence and command and slays the girl and wins the race. The last scene of that movie is great, an up-and-comer Nordic is on pace to beat his time but crashes.
Apparently Redford is an athlete. Clint would be too. I would not bet that Beatty or Jack is. They are more in their heads.
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j for jerk
way off
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Come on dude. You are not new here.
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Faggy ‘looks are everything’ types would say Robert Redford.
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I think I realise now why they ban “hate” speech.
Half the electorate, women, cannot be persuaded by reason, they can only be persuaded by emotion.
Thats why media showed pictures of dead children instead of raping arab adults to represent the refugees coming in.
Now, the emotion that would be needed to be generated to convince women would be negative emotions about this people (fear, anger, hatred), and they have conveniently banned that as “hate” speech.
So they have effectively setup a system where you can only legally persuade in one direction. Never in the opposite direction. And that one direction is the direction they want, more immigration, more rapefugees, more White genocide.
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The Bolsheviks banned “disagreement” speech too.
Coming to a Western country soon…
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how many times do I have to cite “Trofim Lysenko” before people figure out they didn’t just ban disagreement, they banned reality?
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I voted Jack. Is ‘J’ for Joker? I could see him with a cocky grin on his face making a circle of ladies around him laugh, all while dishing out negs one by one, each girl eagerly waiting for her turn to come around. Abundance mentality and humor seems like a winning combo
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Why would Jack Nicholson get all the actual action, but Redford would get the most verbal praise if women saw pictures of all four?
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Because you are thinking like a man. No matter how much we as men like to think that women have the same mental process as men, they don’t. The tingle trumps all, including looks. So now imagine all 4 of these guys have a burlap sack over their head at the party. Which one do you think is the most alpha now? Jack by a country mile cuz he has waaay more charisma and ZFG attitude even with covered faces. Redford is a male ideal of boy next store, Beatty the “ladies man” and Eastwood “stiff upper lip stoicism” ..but Jack is the freakin Joker. Which one do you think is going to get the party turned up? Who is most likely to get the girls doing shots of tequila? Women “say” they want to settle down with a Redford, but at a party, since women live in the moment and later backwards rationalize, they would want Jack more than the rest. Interesting stuff.
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No doubts winner was Jack. Interesting bit about Redford though, in line with your comment. Read a story about a director who was trying to get some emotion out of Redford early in his career in a scene and was telling him to act like he “just struck out with a girl” and Redford was utterly puzzled by what he meant. He had zero frame of reference. Never happened.
But we know why here, because women were basically throwing themselves at him. He was the chosen not the chooser and of all the candidates here also still the one who did amd would ping majority of women’s he’s hot list. Wolfie Nicholson was never in the running for any sexiest man alive list. If the world was 2 dimensional Redford would rule but it’s not.
Charisma uber alles…
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Which of the four would you want to be right now?
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Steven (((Chapman))).
http://thosewhocansee.blogspot.com/2012/10/five-year-plan-in-four-years.html#more
Every. Fucking. Time.
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J for jerk.
Nicholson.
Do you people pay attention?
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http://thosewhocansee.blogspot.com/2015/07/reacting-to-spree-killings-progressively.html
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OT: Cappy, old Lawrence Philips found dead in his cell.
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Mitchum, still the gold standard of ZFG bad boys
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Another dont judge a book by its cover situation… And AWALT reminder.
Walking through the bar district 6pm and as i cross the street i come face to face with a young blue eyed blonde. Every inch the perfect 7.5. Wavy long hair 5 ft 7 130 lbs. Ample chest peeking out from under her half zipped north face fleece. Turned out in freshman girl winter uniform skin tight jean and calf length flat boot get up, you know the look. Every starbucks and mall is full of them.
So im liking this and catch a hint of ioi on her face so i stop and say hey. She brightens right up and im starting to think great easy work here! Big smile from her. She says how about we have some fun…
Boom. My heart sinks inside. I smile and lower my shakin haid in a mocking way say nooooo. Youre not one of those girls are you and lean back and smirk at her. She says yeah i am and giggles. Asks me if i have a room.
So i try some game on her and see if she will go off duty. She says 200. I say let me think. Ok 225. Shes confused. 225 she asks. I say yeah thats as low as i will go and ask her if she has the money on her. Now she punches my arm and says no for her and is lolling…
Try some more banter with her but its clear she isnt going to go free… So im amused and just start talking with her. 19 drove in from 3 hours away. Straght up hooking. I ask where her pimp is and she tries to say she doesnt have one. Blah blah… Renting airbnb with her bf for the week trying to make some money. Smart beautiful young girl.
Kind of all american look you see manning the drink table at church pot lucks or in Dairy Queen commercials… In 8 years she will settle down with some beta and he will have no idea about her past.
As i walked away i realized she was literally leaning against a lamp post. Lol.
Next night out with some work friends, mixed group. I see her standing on the street as we pass by i say hey taylor whats up and we fist bump each other… Keep walking past. The women amd guys in our group are like wtf! I shrug, yeah i know her…
Lol. So game masters what are the best hooker game methods – in situ? A big challenge it seems.
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Wild story. You think it might have been a sting operation, trying to bait you for an arrest?
Yeah, the freshman outfit is North Face jacket, either tight jeans or yoga pants and uggs. Cannot forget those fugly shoes.
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Nope not a sting. After i was just bsing with her, no longer trying, she was like i need to make some money and no one will come over if you are here. so she moved half a block down…
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tough one but interesting man!
Its a hard, hard road. For an all-American looking girl to be hooking like that, she has to be seriously damaged. From my experience dating strippers (which are pretty much hookers mentally lol), you have three options:
1. Cruelty. Straight up. This one is mostly to work and result in you dating her for free. If her pimp is her boyfriend, he is GOD in her world. I I mean shit, he has her mind-fucked so well that she is hooking! That is real power. You basically have to beat “God” lol. Every girl i have seen like the one you describe LIKES to be treated like shit, verbally abused, super rough demeaning sex, put down her looks and make her feel like she is worthless. As fucked up as that is, its your best shot. If you go this route prepare for guilt unless you are a straight up psycho with a stone heart. It sucks that her dad/uncle/neighbor damaged her as a child but now she will forever only respond to the old familiar cruelty.
2. Be rich and have status. Prepare for her not to respect you. You are just being used until she finds a better deal, unless you also provide #1.
3. Be amazingly handsome/fit. Sometimes they get tired of fucking ugly, fat old guys and just want someone their own age who would be their ideal type if they weren’t so damaged. It wont last but enjoy the freebie
Everyone else stay away lol she will destroy your life and sees you only as that pussy beta provider who she will eventually have to settle with once her looks fade. and she will resent you for it. And that poor bastard will end up here at the Chateau in 2 years looking for advice on his recent painful divorce once she starts banging the stone faced gardner…
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Honey i told you i’ve never done that before. Im not some slut. Lol
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whores can be very useful. they are the gate keepers of the secret society.
have a plate who is a call girl. guys pay her a ton for sex. she’s super choosy and only fks guys she’s attracted to
i pegged her from the beginning, and just played the ‘friend’ card. (not an ORBITER!) i (acted like I) respected her profession and treated her like any other professional. i never pressured her for sex or even mentioned it, just gradually earned her trust. this differentiated me from her johns
one day I did her a favor, fixed something at her house. after she took me into her bedroom and took off her clothes and let me do what I wanted with her. it was implied that as long as I didn’t get attached, then it was a service that she was willing to provide and receive. she needed sex too, but only from someone who she could ‘trust’ in a weird, whore-y pathological way. and her friends too
the arrangement continues to this day. well, up until a few months ago. she got knocked up intentionally by some wealthy dude, then had a miscarriage at 3 months followed by a partial birth abortion which took place in a restroom at her job. so now she’s not in the mood and I’m pissed because one of my more reliable sources of high quality free sex has dried up 😦
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Plumps.. Lost in mod. So this was kinda social circle? How did you meet?
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a bit verbose but on-point:
http://bristollair.com/2008/inner-game/nature-reality/secret-soci
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http://bristollair.com/2008/inner-game/nature-reality/secret-society/
full link sorry
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mod seems to be full throttle suddenly so hope this gets through
only tip is try to differentiate yourself from her tricks. don’t judge her for her profession (whores’ ASD is code red), don’t see her as a sex object (I know I know… stay with me), and try to be her friend. sort of the gay bff bait-and-switch. very similar to gaming any hot girl but with navy seals level zfg. your indifference to her sex product has to be impeccable.
whores in general are the most desperate for a guy they can trust, not trustworthy like a boyfriend but in the way that Froto can be trusted with the ring. other than that they’re just like every other girl
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one of the most useful CH posts of all times:https://heartiste.wordpress.com/2013/03/01/how-to-keep-a-stripper-enamored-of-you/
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keep trying to post relevant CH posts but the links don’t make it through mod. you can find them by searching “secrets” and “how to keep a stripper enamored with you” and CH
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sentient, didn’t understand your question before. yeah meet her though friends. picking one up on the street would be magnitudes more difficult, but not impossible. good luck dude
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Danke Plump. Check back I have an escort story in mod.
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A story about escorts and a LOTR reference. God bless this site!
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@plumpjack
“the arrangement continues to this day. well, up until a few months ago. she got knocked up intentionally by some wealthy dude, then had a miscarriage at 3 months followed by a partial birth abortion which took place in a restroom at her job. so now she’s not in the mood and I’m pissed because one of my more reliable sources of high quality free sex has dried up :(”
sorry to hear about this (for both reasons…)…but the ‘sperg in me is strong…lol…so, i just wanted to point out that her ‘not being in the mood’ is a shit test…and you being pissed is a fail…(bc you now ‘care’ = attached = not trusted source anymore)
when there is a ‘event’ in any relationship a girl has, girls need to ‘retest/reaffirm’ their status…and that includes as against the men in their lives…so, if you get sucked into the drama = beta…if you get ‘attached’ = fail (bc you need to have ZFG wrt her profession…) and the bigger the event, the more they have to test to get confirmation.
this also opens up an interesting idea, and that is that it should be just as easy to go from a beta orbiter in a ‘relationship’ to an alpha stud…given the ‘event’ is sufficiently big enough to shake things up…you would just have to hold frame as alpha stud congruently enough and solidly enough…and then it’s real…lol…and you can ratchet up that alpha stud cred by inducing minor ‘events’ on your own schedule…lol…
so, if you want this girl back, you will probably have to ‘start over’…just think about it like a day 2 (on a meta level…). you don’t start off making out (which is where day 1 left off), you have to re-seduce her…
i might not be getting something (although i think i know what you are saying happened), but i want to point out that a miscarriage and a partial birth abortion generally don’t go together…since abortion is outside-induced…
good luck!
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habd: basically girl is an alpha female so she when decides one day that she doesn’t feel like it then there’s no arguing. then when she wants it again it’s on. these types of girls maintain an iron-fisted control over their pussies. it hasn’t stopped me from gaming her, it’s just that I got so used to it being free and easy. have to let it breathe for a month or so and then try to saddle her up again
we had sex several times while she was preggo, and I hit her up for sex barely a week after miscarriage. that should give you an idea of the mercenary character of this particular arrangement
and the partial birth abortion was drug-induced following miscarriage. I didn’t even know it was possible at 3 months but apparently there were some complications
probably TMI but since you asked 🙂
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hand: just reread your comment post coffee and found some good penetrating tips in there. pun intended. much obliged -pj
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*habd*
autocorrects as ‘hand’ lol sorry
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@plumpjack
one thing you might want to factor in, is that any time a girl’s repro circuit is engaged, her hindbrain is in play…after all that’s its basic reason for being…
so, bc you had sex before and during the pregnancy (and right after)…regardless of the mercenary nature of your arrangement (or HER mercenary goals wrt rich guy…), she failed to go to full term = no baby = trauma = her hindbrain is going WTF!!!…
her hindbrain is going to potentially be associating that failure with YOU…so, that’s going to add in a layer of difficulty… especially, if you are her ‘non-john’ safe haven/alpha stud…her hindbrain is not going to pin this failure on the ‘beta provider’ bc he’s not genetically relevant (at least to her hindbrain)…her hindbrain will seek to pin it on your ‘bad genetics’…with all that implies/her hamster can spin…remember the prime directive…her body(hindbrain) is going to be wondering if it can risk another egg/baby cycle on you…
good luck!
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plumpjack
in the stack
you know, i used to joke about the nsa having a filter on here, but since i did the analysis on how to beat islam with social media and it still hasn’t popped out, i’m not sure anymore…
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@plumpjack
nsa filters extra grabby lately, so i’ll try again but shorter…
basic point = since you were sexing her up before, during and after the miscarriage, her hindbrain will likely try to pin that result on YOUR bad genetics…
good luck!
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habd: very interesting thought…. hope to see your longer comment, here or in another post
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Hooker game is very simple: there is no game. You are the game, and she is the hunter. Good luck if you like a challenge though.
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Common situation where I am. It’s obvious and they are clear its business. What I did online once was when I got the “I’m a newbie escort”. I replied with “hey so am I! “. After some banter I said ” I’m up for meeting but I will not ever pay for anything.”
She replied with “cool it might be nice to just be real for a change”. I left it . She texted a few sad icons. I only replied with “I’m free Tuesday” and didn’t take beta bait. It didn’t go anywhere.
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Yeah that’s what I m thinking like if they are on the clock can you turn one? Be like chatting a barista and she drops her apron and walks out Sith you mid shift…. anyone ever get an in situ freebie?
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@Sentient
interesting situ…push those game boundaries!…THAT’S how we get better…lol
need more intel…see quixotic’s analysis (especially 1 bc 2 is basically beta provider game…and it would be cheaper to just pay up front…lol…so i don’t think that is what you are asking, and 3 is outside of control and depends on her ‘fantasy’ of the moment of being a ‘normal’ girl)…
but if you WERE going to play, you need to find out how damaged she is…and in what ways…it’s stripper game on steroids (which is normal game on steroids…lol)…see plumpjack’s link…
the intel matters bc in order to turn her and get a ‘freebie’, you have to convincing her hindbrain that you are a bigger alpha stud/better genetics than she already has (with her ‘god’ = pimp or ‘bf’ (likely a gang or biker dude…especially if she’s on the street (street focused money) instead of ‘escort service’ where she could make WAY more money than 200 a pop…lol…and it’s safer…))
…and that the only way she can get those genetics is if she gives you a freebie bc you won’t pay…and this would likely only happen during ovulation bc of that urgency for ALPHA seed…lol…(so a short time window)…that is if you are talking about a SNL on the hooker…lol…
it’s do-able (see plumpjack’s story) but that takes time…and doesn’t seem to be your goal…lol…
to do a SNL, you would probably have to use ‘pimp hand’…lol…(or most likely whorefinder’s favorite idea…lol) and that’s not going to work in public…or on a one-off situ…bc she will just see it as an attack (by an outsider), as opposed to better genetics…
OR you could just follow her around talking to her and interfere with her trade enough to have her give it up for free for the opportunity to have you leave her alone, so she could get a paying customer…lol…and ‘not willing to ‘inconvenience’ a girl’ = beta…lol…
good luck!
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Sentient – lol, I love these “vignette” posts – so much happens in these interactions even when not much seems to happen.
I think you did the best you could have in the circs, but as far as stripper game goes (not quite escort game), I took a stab at it in Spring 2014 – if you search YaReally’s Archive for my name, you’ll find some of my earliest posts here about me trying stripper game and YaReally’s tips.
It’s interesting because my skills and subcomms were a lot worse then than they are now, and I was STILL able to get genuine IOIs from several strippers and nearly got numbers from a couple (if I hadn’t been cock blocked by friends both times). Maybe I should go back to it now lol.
But yes – basically the idea is as everyone above has said – you want to differentiate from her customers and not buy dances and sexualize confidently (in some advanced situs you can buy dances and still pull because you are taking the frame of judging her dancing etc, but it’s hard to do).
Also re pimps/escorts – you have read that famous book about pimping right? The memoir by that pimp guy? I’m sure it’s been mentioned here before – I’ve read it but the name slips me now. Worth reading to get a feel for the mentality here.
YaReally breakdown
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Oh and HABD/Sentient – YaReally is still posting on the Rational Male comments. Definitely check out the latest post in the last day or two – he’s just posted an absolutely masterful breakdown of the subcomms in an interaction on Keys to the VIP.
It’s like HABD’s text game breakdown on the other thread but with video.
I watched the interaction and then read his analysis and literally had to go back and watch the interaction at 3 second intervals reading the corresponding paragraph he’d written.
It’s basically some good looking male stripper dude who gets approached by a hot girl and ends up pulling her to the bathroom within a few minutes by saying the most inane nonsense. Most people would see that and think “yeah, good looking guys..they just have to walk up and say hello”, but he just breaks down all the subcomms the guy is projecting and the shit tests (including nonverbals) he passes and explains how it is the subcomms and mental attitude and voice tonality that do the trick, and not his looks (except for the initial IOI/approach by the girl).
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Iceberg Slim
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It’s not Beatty. Check out that Madonna movie from the early 90’s. She’s backstage after a show, Beatty walks in, what follows is an embarrassing display of beta
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He was banging her when the made Dick Tracy. He’s the one that told her to go sans bra in her Vogue video. (Nah, I don’t know but might as well start a rumor.)
Speaking of said video. . ..
Ah, the 90s. No internet and horny adolescents like me had to wait for that video to see some tittie. HAHA!
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“Ah, the 90s. No internet and horny adolescents like me had to wait for that video to see some tittie. HAHA!”
yep.
and it may seem like we missed out by not getting as much exposure to nudity, porn, etc. back then but look at how messed up young people are today. they are exposed to things when they are too young to know how to handle it but think they are as mature as full grown adults.
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In case you don’t see it on the ‘women are xenophilic’ post,
63% of women in Germany now say the number of asylum seekers is too high compared to 61% of men.
https://yougov.co.uk/news/2016/01/12/germans-attitudes-immigration-harden-following-col/
[CH: i’m not too surprised by this turn of opinion. recent events have been very…. clarifying. you should send this link and this post to satoshi kanazawa and ask him how this squares with his evo bio theory for female xenophilia.]
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to be fair it started out the other way around so this doesn’t falsify the ‘natural xenophilia’ theory (although the gap was, lets face it, small) but following the attacks on women, more women than men now think there are too many asylum seekers. A 12% hike for the women is pretty big.
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Looking again at the data, even back in November, more men (22%) than women (19%) declared that Germany would welcome more asylum seekers.
The men have stayed at 22% following the attacks, with the women have gone down to 14%. Less xenophilic in both cases.
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I think Kanazawa’s theory still has sense. His point is about women in reproductive age. And the poll isn’t matched by age. To his theory I also add that women with children independently of their age are more xenophobic, for obvious evolutionary reasons. Match for that and then we’ll see
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I bet the rise of women who said that was rather explosive and started right around the point actual men in Germany organized and started marching and patrols.
Women love foreign invaders, until their own men start fighting back.
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Robert Redford plays an alpha male in the horse whisperer. I think he really games the woman in that film (naturally I assume) and she falls for him in a big way and wants to leave her beta male husband. He seems honest and benevolent at the same time so when I saw it I thought he was like a positive alpha male character. The game principles in the film seem uncanny though. Would be interesting if you could tell me if I’m onto something here or full of shit.
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OK, each man at 45 years old. Steve McQueen vs. Paul Newman vs. Jerky Boy Jack. Who fairs the best in a room full of young poon?
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Always always always the most fun will win in the moment. Feelz are realz and girls just wanna have fun.
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How many posts about jerks have I read on this site?
“What kind of man do women love more than men admire?”
I think it’s finally starting to sink in.
[CH: how many times did the bible say jesus was the son of man?]
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Before I read the clues, I was certain it was Jack. From Witches of Eastwick to As Good as it Gets, the guy is chick bait and virtually the standard definition of Alpha in the Manosphere. But then there’s the clue, J. And the “think like a women” which I take to mean “feel like a woman and engage hamsters to rationalize those feelings – the stronger the feelings, the mightier the hamster.”
Eastwood and Redford are right out in my book for reasons discussed above. That leaves Ned or Jack. And Ned just doesn’t seem to me to have the fame that Jack does. So despite game theory (not our game theory, the other kind) saying Ned, I’m still going with Nicholson.
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Ned gets more hillbilly action.
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Haha!
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From that dailymail.co.uk link
Jack drops a laser-guided Neg on Jennifer Lawrence:
“You look like a old girlfriend.”
Jack is Da Man.
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Culum
Couple of recent things you might try out…
Sitting in hotel lounge killing half hour before a dinner meeting. I see a very attractive 40s woman very slim very femine pretty face and expensive clothes walking by me. She gives me a quarter look and glances quickly at the chair next to me. I see this in a microsecond and say, you can sit there its not taken. She sits. There are plenty of other chairs and places to sit all around. When you have that split second act and see what happens.
We chat. Im waiting for a client so im just chill not gaming her hard. So basic convo. But based on the little ioi and compliance i through in some long stares and forced silences. So i see her amping up attraction licking her lips a lot. Chasing the conversation.
She rushed to airport lots of travel hassles and long flight. Just happy to be here and have a drink. She is on vacation solo. Husband and kid at home… Lol. She isnt staying in this hotel either. So what does this tell you? So i start just naturally amping up game more. NLP stuff like “it feels really really good to just relax and let go right?” and lasering. Shes like oh yes and settling back in her chair. Keeps holding my gaze. Gaze back into her eyes and just dont say anything for 15 or 20 seconds. Watch what happens… In your mind you can actually speak the words you want and the meaning will be made clear in your subcomms. Like just think i know and you know we want to fuck here… And hold her gaze.
We chat somemore, basic stuff where to go eat drink see etc… But the subcom is getting deeper… She tells me her name is joan. O shake her hand and hold it… Looking into her eyes joan thats a nice name…(wait a few beats) rhymes with moan… Smile and sit back
Bam. Tinglezingle… She giggles oh ho ho ho and gives me i know your bad look. We go back to basic convo. I need to split soon. She takes out her pen amd pad and is writing down my recos… I get a text time to leave amd tell her i need to go. I tell her while she has her pen out right down her number and if she is still out at 11 id call her. 11 being code for fucking.
She grabs her face and says oh no. You wont believe this i left my phone in my car when i was racing to make the flight… I shrug ok. She takes my arm and say really i would love to give it to you. I say goodbye joan and shake her hand. Thought about a quick kiss but client was lurking. Given her age i made no other logistical plans with her, not worth it. Just said well maybe we will run into each other again.
50 50 whether she was telling the truth. Sometimes these older women just like a good tingle and get scared if youre not pushing them hard.
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Man, some of the things you’ve mentioned I’ve done in the past, but too much of a pussy to push through. Granted, well before studying the crimson arts. Stuck in old beta, brainwashed mindset.
One that stands out: a few buddies and I were at a bar for another’s b-day. I spot a nice looking gal, I’ll go 8 and her chubby friend, though she had some nice ta-tas…not all fat. Nice looking gal sees me and after a few glances my way I finally decide to go over. (Mind you, up to this point I was the usual schlub that would just keep looking and never go over.) I start chatting them up. Also, my confidence was sky-high due to other endeavors, but not grounded into the person I am as it is today.
Girl is attractive, wearing a nice, body-hugging dress that goes down to her ankles. I’m sure we’ve all seen they type. Her fat friend is all tatted up on one arm, wearing a shirt and jeans. Pretty face, but that fat was a hindrance. (Hindenbergence? HAHA)
I’ve got a gift of gab, mainly because I love the sound of my voice and I love words; love being a witty gent. Now, I’m still stuck in beta brainwash mode. I’m talking and talking, hoping one buddy would come by and add some levity, but I’m still going at it. She’s enjoying it, not back away or anything.
As I talk, she drops the boyfriend line. Failed that one miserably; taking myself out of it, but still hanging out to “be a nice guy.” And, she was pretty to look at and I was never all that good at approaching so I’m milking it for all it is worth.
I mention that I moved out to CA at such and such year. Both girls stare at each other with a knowing look, along the lines of “did we hear that right?” That being the year I mentioned. And in unison, they said they were nine at the time. My not-yet-inebriated brain deduces that now, these girls are 21.
“Too young,” my brain tells me. (If I only knew. . .)
Yadda yadda yadda, the girl has to go home, she’s got a curfew, so they leave. I don’t even bother for a number. Fellas came over and first, were proud of me and second asked what had happened. I filled them in, saying she had a bf (which another guy’s gal said “So?”) and they asked about fatty and I told them she was single. They said go after Fatty. No thanks.
The problem is I always wait for what I call: the invite. So stupid. Gotta be like CH always says and bustamove. I just don’t go out as often and try to avoid bars and the like. But, I have been meaning to try my hand at hotel lobby game as you continually bring up. Just got to find a good hotel near where I live.
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Mendo… Youve got good chops man. Go forth and do.
Do twilight game… Happy hour is great as well… Find a few good spots. Fuck some Chilis and such can be great… And hotel lobby after 9pm… Any single there you need to game. And just go from beta polite to crazy sexual by degrees… The contrast is a killer.
BTW Another NLP type line i used on this woman was (it was getting dark) was “i love this time of day. Its the best time isnt it? (Nod head) the way the light is shifting and the sun slides away and the lights in the room come up (point around and nod)… And all of a sudden its dark out and you have the whole night out before you with so much possibily? Right? (Nod) its so romantic”
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Mendo- rereading this…. you live in LA right? Shut half my hotel stories are LA. Check out the front bar at bev Wilshire get there at 8 and watch the squads of escorts roll through at 9 for a laugh. Then chat up that 29 yo lawyer from NYC drinking a white wine…
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Yeah, I’m in LA. Beverly Wilshire, eh? Good stuff. Used to work at a bank in BH, am familiar with the area. Well, not sure how much has changed in 12 years.
I’m so ripe all I need is a setting. If I see that 29 year old NYC chick, I’ll go all in. Tell her white wine is so inferior they shouldn’t even serve it. I like reds. Shit, I guess that’s a good way to get it all started.
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@mendo
“Nice looking gal sees me and after a few glances my way I finally decide to go over. (Mind you, up to this point I was the usual schlub that would just keep looking and never go over.) I start chatting them up. ”
great job!…props on taking action…we all start here…lol…
and good self-analysis…just keep working the program, you will definitely get better…
good luck!
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Lots of good game but, frankly, you had that one at “you can sit there, it’s not taken”. Everything that you spelled out, including her age, look, reaction, reason (or no reason) for being there, traveling along, etc., said that one was ripe for picking. If you did not have to leave, you could have placed your extra hotel key under her glass and she would have been there 10 minutes later. Well, you left her tingling for the next fellow that walked in. His job just got a whole easier after that.
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Extra key game. That is killer. I’ve been in the habit of just getting one because for some reason when I have two I lose them.
Under the glass very slick.
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Good stuff Sentient..do you find you are getting consistently better in spotting those micro-IOIs like glancing at the chair beside you? At least quickly enough to take action?
The other thing I’ve noticed is you’re building more verbal innuendo into your game recently (NLP stuff as you call it) – I’m getting better at taking things sexual, but some of that innuendo and wordplay about moaning etc..that’s a good angle to take things with laser eye..
PS – I have some work downtime coming up so should be some Field Reports from me in late January..I’ve finished watching PIMP so let’s see how it goes.
PPS – Props to the extra key game. Another variant of making her chase. Like how I tell girls online to text me..
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Culum –
Yeah I’m at a good place to nail IOI stuff in real time. The key to that was first recognizing the MACRO ioi if you will, i.e. women need sperm. So if they are OUT they are seeking sperm to some degree… So that already puts you in an abundance mindset, i.e. you’re here so you are DTF, question is will it be me? Live that frame and everything becomes easier… entitlement, negs, push, sexualizing early, ZFG and strong hands on boyfriend posture kino. The next key then is calibration, which is timing, managing that. so not like just grabbing her and sticking a tongue down her throat in 10 seconds, but letting the interaction unfold.
I’m best when I can run a quick verbal game, but have to watch I don’t overwhelm a girl who doesn’t have a dry sarcastic humor or is a little slow on following threads. So lounges are great, you have to be more direct in loud bars.
But def sexualize your convo early… like as soon as you can with some quip. You change the entire interaction instantly. You might still fail but you wont end up with her trying to sell you real estate or such LOL…
Another night – long story – but met two late 30’s girls and a dude and we bounced to another bar. Was with my client so not gaming (he’s also married) to start but just be funny… So it was more social energy how many kids you have etc. Told them I had 5, they were like wow. I have my hands on each of their shoulder chatting to them. I say yeah super fertile… you’re probably both pregnant now. One girl was like Oh you saying you have a big dick… I said nah, really just powerful sperm… my dick is tiny… like a baby carrot…. It’s cool though… I carry a tweezer with me.
So later when my client split I end up making out with one of them, she’s like so you have a baby carrot dick huh… was funny. Didn’t pull because I got thrown out of the bar shortly after (funny story – stupid bitch bartender) and they pulled back with the other dude… LOL
Anyhow try this move I got from sedfast… just be real close when talking/flirting and rest your forehead on her forehead and just look into her eyes…. say nothing… don’t go for the kiss. just wait and after a bit (10-20 seconds) she will dissolve and close her eyes and open her mouth…
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mod!
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I’m good at the sexual wordplay but only if I know the lady well. Trying to work on ramping up the delay so I’m in-the-moment.
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Mod? You there Mod? It’s me…
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still in mod now…
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Culum – post released…!
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The (((elite))) is really flailing now.
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/13/opinion/why-putin-loves-trump.html?action=click&pgtype=Homepage&version=Moth-Visible&moduleDetail=inside-nyt-region-4&module=inside-nyt-region®ion=inside-nyt-region&WT.nav=inside-nyt-region
lolzozozoz. We on the *right* make decisions based on *emotion*?!?
The libtarded anti-reality bubble is made of 4150 steel, apparently.
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“Rather, Mr. Putin’s puzzling enthusiasm for Mr. Trump is rooted in the fact that they both live in a soap-opera world run by emotions rather than interests”
Nationalism is a biological interest. I don’t even imagine in which way a nation would have benefits from open borders(and markets) and diversity moreover when is proven that white men is the only need to boost economy and science.
They only soap opera here is the fucking white countries politics. Feminism is a ideology indistinguishable from a soap opera, victimism, status whoring…
Left is like women. They insist on the implicit worth of each human being and refuse beauty and intelligence as factors that modify that worth. Of course this is reason and Newton and Darwin are emotions. Do you know how works the thing nowadays.
This people need a punishment.
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I’m happy to acknowledge and salute Nicholson’s prowess in seduction, but I wouldn’t trade it for his upbringing. This is a man raised by his grandparents thinking his mother was his sister, which gives a great deal of poignancy to the scene in Chinatown with Faye Dunaway when you know the backstory (a scene, incidentally directed by Roman Polanski). There is something to be said for staid, middle-class, monogamous (on the part of the woman) nobility. Jack, for all his swagger and wealth, possesses none of that. Say what you want, ZFG jerkboy wannabes, I’m happy that I know who my mother and father are.
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Good point.
I didn’t see Fifty Shades of Twat, but just imagine what Jack could’ve done in that lead role, if he were forty years younger. Those laser eyes.
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No, not those eyes.
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There’s really only one lasting measure for men: children. Yeah, I hear you: “What a cuck!” Except not, ’cause children.
Jack Nicholson: 4
Warren Beatty: 4
Robert Redford: 4
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Clint Eastwood: 7, by <<>> women.
Clint slew more baby-mommas than the other guys sired babies.
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*5 women
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Clint has 7 children? Never knew that. Glad he passed on those good genes. His son (or one of his sons) is in an interesting movie that I saw a few days ago, called Diablo. A Western movie with a bit of a demented twist. I thought it was good.
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David Robert Jones .. otherwise known as David Bowie – has recently become an ascended master over space, time, and all flesh. Or just a buried slough of worm-food.
“He took it all too far, but boy could he play guitar.”
Indeed. There are people who are alive today who honestly believe that something really important peaked in the 1980s.
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@ Rum
He was a singular genius, ZFG in his own way.
Hard to pick a best song, but “Suffragette City” always springs to mind.
“Hey man, well she’s a total blam-blam
She said she had to squeeze it but she… then she…
Oh don’t lean on me man
Cause you can’t afford the ticket
I’m back on Suffragette City…”
That’s Rock n’ Roll.
Bowie, R.I.P.
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R.I.P David Bowie, but the greatest song of all time is still Blind in Texas…
An El Paso hellhole, I couldn’t get higher
White lightning moonshine tastes like fire
I drank for free, till I couldn’t see
I fell on the floor, what I said is…
You know the chorus boozehounds…
Now that’s Rock ‘n’ Roll.
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Four Alphas Enter A Bar…
…look around and all go: “Phew. Thank fuck for that. McQueen isn’t here”
[img]http://media-cache-ec0.pinimg.com/736x/73/21/d5/7321d5cc7ceed5a88460d810f6f4fb2d.jpg[/img]
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This is a party of very hot starlets. Hot models and actresses (histrionics) are often oddly contemptuous of handsome men. So, the issue isn’t so much Jack’s appeal, but the repulsive effect of the three impossibly handsome men. I think some histrionics get jealous of vain beautiful men, in the same way that dating a girl in the same field as you will just result in competition. They’d rather be arm candy for a moderately attractive Jew with chutzpah.
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Sentient, HABD et al
Quick question. Over on Rational Male some guy commented recently about how (aged 54) he saw a pair of early 20s girls in the line at the coffee shop. One fat, one hot. He said hello to the cute one who responded but the fat one immediately asked him “How old are you?” (presumably in a shit-testing way but he doesn’t say). He said “54. How heavy are you?”
The hot girl giggled at that but unsurprisingly things went downhill (no details of convo) and ended with the fat girl following him out to the car park telling him he’s a creepy old man and he shouldn’t be hitting on young girls etc.
Am I right in thinking that (a) he should have opened both of them instead of the hot one and DHVed a bit and neutralized the fat girl first; and (b) Once he got the shit test, although his line was a great zinger, it was basically falling into her frame and came across butthurt and he’d have been better off with something like “Too old for you” or “One meelion years old” laughing? I mean it still may not have worked (once the cockblock decided she was against him), but he’d have had a better shot..
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Culum – MM right? Open everyone but ignore the target, then neg the target…!
Getting into a brawl with a fat girl isn’t going to work out. A&A would be a better route at that point or more ambiguous “it’s not the years it’s the miles you know”…
It’s fun to pop off a ZFG line like that once in a while but you need to expect to get blown out.
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@Culum
“Quick question.”
long answer…lol
” Over on Rational Male some guy commented recently about how (aged 54) he saw a pair of early 20s girls in the line at the coffee shop. One fat, one hot. He said hello to the cute one who responded but the fat one immediately asked him “How old are you?” (presumably in a shit-testing way but he doesn’t say). He said “54. How heavy are you?””
he is reacting to fatty’s frame bc he answered her directly and logically…bc of this, his question is butthurt…also, his question is logical and direct = beta…he lost the bang with hotty right here…lol
fatty’s question might be a shit test (and on one level it is) but more likely fatty said this in a shaming way = straight up FI…bc she knew she couldn’t compete with hotty. i’ve noticed that this is getting to be almost a pavlovian response by fat girls…or older…or ugly…or feminists (probably could have just said that first…lol)…[hit on hotty ==> get attempt at shaming thrown at you by nearby ‘fatty’…(and sometimes it almost seems like the hotty is just waiting for that to happen…lol)] it doesn’t seem like a shit test, although i guess technically it is…but it’s mostly just trying to put betas back into their proper place in the FI world view.
and this points out a BIG advantage to the playah (and why CH’s predictions seem to be accurately playing out in society re alpha cads getting MORE plays/EASIER lays…) which is that as the FI is ACTIVELY oppressing beta males to push them back into place, it makes the man who resists that attempt (whether he understands (red pill gamer) or not (natural)) MORE attractive to all girls, not just hottys…it’s just a big filter…lol…and why those meet to bang times are down to a couple hours…bc girls have to jump on those opportunities (pun intended)…lol…
“The hot girl giggled at that but unsurprisingly things went downhill (no details of convo) and ended with the fat girl following him out to the car park telling him he’s a creepy old man and he shouldn’t be hitting on young girls etc.”
see…shaming… although the subcomms tell me he was beta/reactive…
but if his subcomms were solid, he could have pulled that hotty…lol…although, fatty’s behavior ALSO is fatty’s hindbrain ‘going all in’ on an opportunity to interact with potential alpha stud…i mean really, how many opportunities does a fat girl really have to interact with someone bold enough to cold approach a hotty?…lol…AND also have that man be throwing off beta cues (reactive frame, logical responses, etc)…fatty’s hindbrain saw an opportunity and was trying to convert…lol…
“Am I right in thinking that (a) he should have opened both of them instead of the hot one and DHVed a bit and neutralized the fat girl first;”
depends on the situ…but that’s the standard way to deal with c@ckblocks…also, that’s standard MM for a reason…bc approaching hotty first elevates her value…blah, blah…but i’ve noticed that if your subcomms are solid (unapologetic alpha stud), that doesn’t seem to matter…the bigger issue is dealing with the resultant ASD…lol…which resolving c@ckblocks first is doing for you…but if her hindbrain’s cost/benefit analysis is positive, it won’t matter…and her hamster will spin it for you…lol
” and (b) Once he got the shit test, although his line was a great zinger, it was basically falling into her frame”
that’s exactly what it was…and he was in reactive mode at that point = beta…and i can tell that he didn’t control the interaction (mostly by a & a) bc fatty wasn’t defused/disarmed/disqualified (by him being too alpha – girls have ‘leagues’ too…lol)…
” and came across butthurt and he’d have been better off with something like “Too old for you” or “One meelion years old” laughing? I mean it still may not have worked (once the cockblock decided she was against him), but he’d have had a better shot..”
‘too old for you’ = beta (logical, direct reaction)…the next one is a & a = alpha…
when i get an age question, i usually go with “sixty nine…”, (engaging target (pause until you get an eye lock with her), even if you are ‘ignoring her’ and haven’t spoken to her yet…lol) then smirk and laser eyes with intent until it registers and she ‘blushes’…lol…this both sexualizes the interaction and declares your intent (with subcomms = plausible deniability = chicknip) and is A & A and is in YOUR frame…so, it’s all good…lol…
good luck!
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This article is an amazing insight into Jack and Anjelica Huston’s relationship: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2827707/Marry-kidding-Anjelica-Huston-heartache-affair-Jack-Nicholson-cried-three-days-Nicholson-laughed-idea-marrying-her.html
The summary at the top of the page sums it up perfectly:
‘Marry you? Are you kidding?’: Anjelica Huston reveals how she cried for three days after Jack Nicholson laughed at the idea of marrying her
Houston dated Nicholson off-and-on from 1973 to 1989
Says she was constantly let down by the philanderer
Cried for three days after Nicholson laughed at the idea of marriage
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I have noticed that among F1 drivers that lower ranked drivers have hotter gfs than the guys winning races. My question is: shouldn’t female hypergamy suggest that the best drivers have the hottest gfs?
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I don’t disagree. But if I had a choice, I would rather be Clint, then RR, then WB and last of all Jack.
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