ZFG (zero fucks given, otherwise known as aloofness & indifference, or outcome independence) is a fundamental principle of seduction that will rarely fail a man adhering to it. But there are those times during a courtship, infrequent but pregnant with suspenseful uncertainty, when a man would do well to give a girl a small token of his attainability, which is expressed with a fleeting affair with sincerity. In other words, you need to occasionally swap your shitlord for your lovelord. Reader Mr. Meaner demonstrates,
OT game post, but sort of related.
Text convo I had with a chick recently.
Her: You’ve made me so horny today. Can’t wait to see you again.
Her: Can I ask you a question?
Me: Yes, it is a full 8 inches.
Her: Lol. Are you sleeping with anybody else atm?
Me: Only your sister
Her: So no?
Me: Haha, why would you ask me that? You sound like my wife. Except my wife is on vacation at the moment.
Her: Haha. What are you doing this weekend?
Run of the mill shit test, but notice how you have to shift the frame slightly when she persists beyond the smart-ass flirty responses. CH has touched on this before. One or two smart-ass responses is good game, but being a total shitlord with zero sincerity is too transparent. The “Why would you ask me that?” is a solid reframe in this situation.
Note this: A chick who’s horny and can barely control herself around you will shit test you to find any excuse to lose those out-of-control tingles. They’re scary for her, because they’re real, and so few real-life guys give them to her. Don’t give her the easy excuse she needs to extinguish them by answering her concerns like a sperg.
I give this Text Game an A+. Perfect execution. Lots of great teasing, taunting, negging, and amused mastery. No beta apologetics or defensiveness or sappy romanticism. The moment of sincerity — not too direct, but just a glancing blow delivering a glimpse of “realness” — comes when Meaner says “why would you ask me that?”, followed by a quick cocky jab of humor, taken all together providing the right amount genuine response to the girl’s yearning desire to know whether he was sleeping with any other women, (in turn lowering her anti-slut defense shields).
This is how it’s done. A lot of jerkboy game seasoned with a sprinkle of vulnerability game. Tat for tit. All play and a little work make Jack a sexy boy.
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Congratulations, who’s the lucky mom?
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The child looks Mulatto..
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Nice set of teeth Captain. Don’t leave it too late or he’ll chew his way out.
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That baby is in a strong ZFG posture. Lol.
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Does he have his arms resting behind his head? Haha
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Cool! this is what I aim, until I am 30 years old lol, I am 23 at the moment.
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Judging from the dates on the ultrasound image, I suspect CO is merely giving a subtle reminder for MOAR WHYTE BUNZ IN OVENS!!!
😉
But if I’m wrong about that, congrats man.
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the date is not set properly on the US machine. in the right corner… there was nothing dot com in 1984 🙂
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Note that “why would you ask me that” DOESN’T ACTUALLY CONVEY ANY INFORMATION. So it’s not an answer, and it’s actually not “sincere” – it’s a Rorschach test; it lets her read into it whatever she wants.
In short, very well-played indeed.
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Good insight.
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@Mahdi, your reasoning is exactly right; however, the two wife parts convey two specific narrative elements that she utilizes how she wants: (1) my wife=#1 and maybe only sex partner atm, and (2) wife on vacation=naughty adventure sex with alpha in demand who can maintain a wife. Bitches always construe maximum value for themselves and leave the bills of impossibilities for betas (and all of Western society in however many decades) to pay. This chick gets to “be the one” that tames this exciting alpha, to have the best of both worlds, and when she wants “more”, time to dump the lunatic.
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Yeah, somehow, I know it’s weird, but changing the frame doesn’t convey info.
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Brilliant text game. This guy should write a blog, it’s one of those few exchanges that really make you sit back and want to clap. If his IRL game is as good this guy must be a slayer.
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Slut
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Me: let’s meet for drinks, tomorrow, after work
Her: sure, but I’ve had the flu, hopefully not serious by tomorrow
Me: just try your best not to kiss me
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careful here. it’s a good line, but my read of this situation is that either you’re fine with hanging out with her and not banging (friend-zone move), or that you’re fine with potentially contracting influenza (lack of options move, aside from genuinely risking your health).
i’d have texted back the wide-eyed ‘yikes’ emoji here and passed tbh.
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It’s a girl I’m gaming. We met up once for coffee and she was keen to meet again around our busy work schedules. I’m assuming attraction in the line not “friend zone”…yikes is good if we were banging…its a good neg. “try not to kiss me” works to plant the idea that I assume she’s attracted and I’m disqualifying myself. this girl is 23 hb8 and quite bubbly and fun. Her subtext is I have a cold but still keen to meet…
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Heh.
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http://www.wherewhitepeoplemeet.com/
Hope for zombieshane with white buns and ovens
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3 words that apply to PUAs and America alike: Trump & Dump.
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One of the greatest examples of text game you will ever find. A god damn masterpiece.
I believe a commenter on the other thread suggested making the wife line shorter. I disagree. Just like you shouldn’t be formulaic in the content of your responses (i.e. not 100% jerkboy), neither should the length of your texts become predictably short. Season your zfg persona with a few subtle variations that suggest a deeper character than what she is allowed to see of you. At the same time, don’t fucking overdo it! So many guys fuck this kind of stuff up one way or another. 99 out of 100 dudes reading this site would imply “Yes, I’m fucking a lot of other girls” in that convo. It takes a text game genius to have the foresight to leave it completely open and let her hamster do the rest. This is rarified air we’re breathing.
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Off topic:
Hailey accuses Trump of being “angry” and tells the people to ignore him. Trump agrees and amplifies…
http://www.breitbart.com/2016-presidential-race/2016/01/13/trump-3/
His response is basically, “You’re damn right I’m angry. I’m angry about how this country is being run. And so are the American people. Anger is good. Anger is what this country needs.”
I know it started out as a joke, but I’m really starting to believe that either Trump, or one of his aides is a Chateau lurker.
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The ‘establishment’ GOP signed its death warrant– if it wasn’t finished already– by putting up that bindi sludge to attack Trump. It’s all over, cucks.
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Agreed
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[…] Source: Heartiste […]
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Police arrest Senegalese man, 25, in connection with death of American artist murdered in Florence after it emerges she took part in ‘kinky sex game’ before being strangled – no surprise here. Must be true, its in the Daily Mail
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The New York Post is carrying the story as well. I note that her “boyfriend” opened the door for police to find her body. A 35-year old bar hopping in nightclubs that even the police consider dangerous and with a taste for dark meat–what could possibly go wrong?
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Actually at this point I don’t even care anymore about these losses of un-life. Darwin and shit.
Seeing that kind of skank in action for 20 years really bumped up the dark triad factor in me tho. Fwiw
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Check out the poon Orson Welles was pulling at the beginning and end of this movie. Notice the restaurant scene where the girl next to him can’t keep her eyes off of him.
Great stuff in this great film on human nature…
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White hero Jared Taylor is doing pro-Trump robocalls in Iowa. Cuckservative/faggot who from his thumbnail portrait appears to be about 12 years old is offended and calls him a “White Supremacist” (which label is fictional but actually sounds pretty cool when you think about it) over and over. Clear majority of commenters DGAF.
http://dailycaller.com/2016/01/13/white-supremacist-robocall-heartily-urges-iowa-voters-to-support-trump/
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Best txt game I’ve seen since fkn Nam’ Well played.
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It ain’t deep game tho as he was banging her already. Him maintaining the hand is only a part. Would be good if our lord CH does a post ok generating attraction from naught. Like this
At the bar to a random babe –
Me: you look familiar
Her: yeah
Me: yeah you look like someone I despise and hate but still bang tho
Her: haha. What do you do?
Me: I kill people
Her: (to be cont.)
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ye i was thinking the same, is easier to keep frame when youv already banged her. Be nice to see more solid text game to create that first bang
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[snip]
Her: haha. What do you do?
Me: I have a job helping the muslim virgins waiting up in heaven.
Her: What? Helping muslim virgins in heaven? How do you do that?
Me: I work as a military contractor and get paid me to kill every jihadi I see. For every one I kill, 72 virgins get their cherry popped.
Her: So you shoot people for a living AND help virgins get laid. Hahaha.
Me: It’s not like I’m just helping the girls, the guys don’t mind cause they’re really tired of fucking goats and they’ve got 72 virgins waiting for them… and you’re a woman so you know what it’s like to be horny…
Her: And you just like to help.
Me: Honey, I get paid to whack the jihadi’s, they go to heaven where they never have to fuck a goat again and the girls up there finally get laid. Win-Win-Win.
Her: So, how many have you killed?
Me: You mean the ones I’ve shot, or the others?
Her: Others??!!!
Me: Sometimes we blow them up, but my favorite is an aluminum baseball bat if I can sneak up on them.
Her: You sneak up on them?
Me: It’s not like in the movies. Usually I hide in their goat pen and wait. When they’re balls-deep in their favorite goat it’s easy.
Her: OMG!
Me: I know! It really pisses me off to see goats get abused like that so I try to clock them before they bust a nut.
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Good thread if just for shits and giggles. If gaming her, suggestion is not to dive too deep into the roll play gambit.
She responded well to “you’re a woman so you know what it’s like to be horny”
“Her: And you just like to help.”
From there, ditch the gambit and escalate sexual frames to personalize the thoughts between you and her, and close for a meet.
You: “yes and i’ll help you work on a few things” [vague, cool and sexual but not overt thirsty horny]
her: “oh really/lol/omg/haha”
You: “listen gotta go let’s meet later this week txt later”
[good roll off, if she responds positive you can most likely close for a meet at next contact, and by being vague ‘txt later’ you’re either saying you’ll txt later, maybe, or telling her to txt later]
Of course I don’t know the situation and I’m assuming it’s a prospect you haven’t banged yet…
Just sone suggestions…
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Thread winner. LMFAO
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Quite verbose mate. You will lose the chick with that many words. Btw. I banged that chick in the conversation. I just can’t be bothered to write down the entire conversation hence TBC
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El Chapo caught because he turns beta: http://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/14/world/americas/el-chapo-enticed-by-star-power-of-mexican-tv-actress-not-sean-penn.html
He calls Ms. del Castillo “the kindest and smartest woman in the world,” whom he “greatly admires,” adopting a formal tone despite the casual format of messaging.
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Her: You’ve made me so horny today. Can’t wait to see you again.
Let’s be honest though. That’s a running start.
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Good txt thread example. But not ‘great’.
With txt and phone game the context of the situation needs to be put on the table to make this a valuable learning lesson.
Here the dude has obviously banged the girl and did her right given the content of the thread.
Now if you meet a new prospect and it’s a good cold approach exchange and you flirt and pull her #, but not make out or no sexual activity has occured, you can’t open with that kind of line the next day or hours later via txt. That’d kill the entire process.
And that is my point here in regards to txt game. The real heavy lifting, skill and experience needed to take a rather cold prospect and generate attraction, desire and move the ball along occurs before you bang her.
After you’ve banged her, txt game is still needed however you’ve got points on the board and it’s more of a maintenance-attraction game and you’re in the pole position.
so yeah, good C/F txt response and ZFG thread, but it’s like kicking a field goal after already scoring a touch down and using the field goal formation as your best highlight of your game, not the touchdown drive.
A more interesting post would be the preceding text thread showing from when he met her to the time he nailed her, not after.
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Well, CO – you were right to harp on the Ted Cruz / G0ldm4n S@chs issue:
Ted Cruz Didn’t Disclose Loan From Goldman Sachs for His First Senate Campaign
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/14/us/politics/ted-cruz-wall-street-loan-senate-bid-2012.html?_r=0
Coming out now, this close to the Iowa caucus … I think this seals it for Trump.
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https://www.facebook.com/AshleyAnnOlsen
The facebook-page of a woman killed by a refugee just some days ago. And she had a white boyfriend
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ass to mouth? no.
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OT But, the best neg I have ever found is to tell a woman she has eyelashes like a camel. Every single one I have found has no idea how to respond to it. It’s almost a compliment, because camels have long full eyelashes, but they are stupid, disgusting animals.
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I dont know how to initiate a text chat with a woman while maintaining alpha.
Texting is a pretty beta behavior unless you have some strong rapport (like already fucking the girl) built.
IMO ive always had the best success when i get a girl on the phone, any amount of texting ive ever done has always hurt me. No exceptions
[CH: face time and ear time are far preferable to text time (for reasons you stated and which have also been stated in older CH posts), but we live in a different world. ignoring text game is just handicapping yourself.]
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How about more examples of text game outside of this tired context. Post more snippets of bad game (what not to do) and/or good text game before you’ve given her the dick. No more cherry picking the best scenarios and show us the real shit.
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Interesting little bit that happened this weekend.
I have a girl at work that’s been a bit flirty lately, She’s a subordinate 7 that’s 15 years my junior. I got her number Friday before she left early for a doctor appt. Texted her Sat. and asked how the doc appt. went, ended up having a boring exchange of no substance, me having sent the last text.
Kicked myself all Sat night, as I should know better by now. Sun morning, I was feeling like I had thoroughly trashed my chances, but I decided to try and redeem myself. Had the following exchange;
Me: “What do you have going today?”
Her: “Re arranging my room”
Me: “Why?”
Her: “So I can block the vent and keep the smoke from the other residents out. Doc says I have serious sinus infection. Gave me some meds.”
-at this point, my beta self was going to suggest some home remedy shit and hope you get better, blah, blah, blah, but CH whispered in my ear and said, “NO, NO, NO! ESCALATE!, BE AN ASSHOLE AND ESCALATE!- So my next line was,
Me: “You need yogurt” (had heard the girls joking about this reference)
Her: “LMAO, give me a week”
Me: “Waiting impatiently”
Her: “LOL”
This is where I left it. This was my epiphany, I know how it would have gone with the beta shit I started to say, and I will reap the results of pushing it.
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