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Female Hypergamy Is Real

February 17, 2016 by CH

This article has a really interesting graphic showing how men and women pair up based on their occupations. Perhaps unwittingly, the data prove the existence and intractable reality of female hypergamy — the tendency of women to date up, or to want to date up, to men who are higher than themselves in social, economic, or occupational status. (I’d include “personality-based” status, as well. Women LOVE LOVE LOVE clever, funny, charismatic men.)

When it comes to falling in love, it’s not just fate that brings people together—sometimes it’s their jobs. We scanned data from the U.S. Census Bureau’s 2014 American Community Survey—which covers 3.5 million households—to find out how people are pairing up. Some of the matches seemed practical (the most common marriage is between grade-school teachers), and others had us questioning Cupid’s aim (why do female dancers have a thing for male welders?). High-earning women (doctors, lawyers) tend to pair up with their economic equals, while middle- and lower-tier women often marry up. In other words, female CEOs tend to marry other CEOs; male CEOs are OK marrying their secretaries.

A lot of traditionally-minded alt-righters with arthritic White Knight reflexes are just gonna have to come to terms with the fact of female hypergamy, and how this ancient biomechanical rhythm shapes the sexual market even to this day, when abortion, the Pill, and anonymous urban living are de rigueur adjuncts of courtship.

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Some readers would demur that hypergamy isn’t sex-specific, pointing out that men also strive to find the best possible lover they can get.

My rebuttal is two-part: One, men don’t date up based on social, economic, or occupational status. Men, if and when they are able to date up, do so based almost entirely on women’s looks. We’ve all seen or experienced how men trade up when they’ve come into a financial or social status windfall — younger, hotter, tighter women, as the GBFM would put it. So male hypergamy — what is more precisely termed “physiogamy” — is different in kind from female hypergamy.

Second, male physiogamy is also different in degree from female hypergamy. Women are biologically compelled to aim for a man higher in SMV from themselves, and this compulsion is strong enough that many women will accept long bouts of solitude before settling for a man at their own SMV level (usually at the moment when The Wall first looms on the horizon). When men aim higher, they a. don’t aim quite as high as women aim and b. won’t opt out of the sexual or marital market (like women will often do), if they don’t get everything they want in a lover.

Men invest less psychological energy than do women to the goal of maximizing mate quality, and this is perfectly reasonable from an evo psych view, considering that women have a limited number of eggs and are effectively knocked out of mate competition for nine months plus many years after. Women can’t afford a “mistake” like men can afford it.

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In before some alt-righter broken record claims posts like this one are the equivalent of an MRA whine to reorient the world according to the entitlement complexes of the Eliot Rogers of the world.

The reality is just the opposite: This post is a clarion call to see the world FOR WHAT IT IS, to not live by pretty lies, and to leverage the ugly truths — in this case the ugly truth of female hypergamy — to one’s personal benefit. And, I will argue, individual men demanding the best of women for themselves will redound to the benefit of the whole of society. (Likewise, women demanding the best of men.)

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  1. on February 17, 2016 at 3:10 pm Anonymous

    In other words, female CEOs tend to marry other CEOs; female secretaries are OK with marrying their male CEOs.

    Fixed it for you, Bloomberg.

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    • on February 18, 2016 at 6:37 am Ponce du Lion

      Those fucking nazis!!! Someone has to teach them not only hypergamy but everything about women. White womyn are as guilty of the current situation of our countries as the tribe is. Obsessed with jw and obviate the personal liability that each european has here, specially womyns. Nazis calling a guy misogynist,quite ironic.

      View post on imgur.com

      The alt right is a bunch of feminists!

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      • on February 18, 2016 at 7:18 am Ponce du Lion

        Because the great grandfather of mine was German I will translate for all you what the nazi sais:

        Aristotle, Galileo, and Newton don’t build civilizations as well as the always mentality skilled middle class white men. Women do it. As a White Supremacist I am that because I really admire the civilization that white women have made. You dishonor your
        matriarchal line being an antifeminitist(feminitis feminitism feminitist).

        Just like religion is terrible.
        Patriarchy is a monolithic society, has to be diversified (tax funded compulsory massive cuck)

        We the naziPOZ strictly believe that are some niggers who are very worthy so we have to monkrel(a hybrid word of monkey + mongrel) up, open the gates for everyone. As exceptions worth to destroy Wester Civilization. Except Roosh who strongly desires to be a white nationalist but he is a rapist. And kikes, even Baron-Cohen and Steven Goldberg, who are refuting scientifically the myth of the rationally capable women and have established the patriarchy as the only way. Gas them.
        Long life to Mary Sue.
        Hail women who advocates our invasion.
        Some women are geniiiiiiussses 🙂

        End of the translation

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      • on February 18, 2016 at 7:22 am Captain Obvious

        PdL, I feel like the dude’s heart is in the right place – no womynzez means no bunz in ovenzez means no progeny means extinction – but the dude is definitely emoting with his insula rather than thinking with his amygdala. Yes, there are some chicks who can see right through the lies of the Eskimo propaganda, but other chicks simply cannot, and instead they get seduced and intoxicated and corrupted and destroyed by the Narrative.

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      • on February 18, 2016 at 9:03 am Ponce du Lion

        Yeah, the only role on women in civilization is give birth men who build civilization.
        Until we have artificial ovens. Then survival and extinction is no longer a female decision.

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    • on February 18, 2016 at 7:47 pm Anonymous

      Not tom mention this:

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  2. on February 17, 2016 at 3:11 pm Female Hypergamy Is Real | Neoreactive

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    • on February 17, 2016 at 6:32 pm Non sequitur

      I’m a carpenter dating a dancer. She was a physics major, I can still dance circles around her mentally. Set her up with a high paying receptionist job and working towards her getting a high paying design job. I fuck her like a caveman and make her mind spin circles. I’ve a caveman compared to her education and I’m Socrates in a duel of the mind. A man is a rare commodity these days, and all my mates have enjoyed it.

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      • on February 18, 2016 at 6:29 am Captain Obvious

        (WHYTE BUNZ)* <- (WHYTE OVEN)*

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      • on February 18, 2016 at 6:32 am Captain Obvious

        Tell her that that’s the cohomological emergence of your ch!ldren from her w0mb.

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  3. on February 17, 2016 at 3:17 pm mendo

    Civil engineers and heating, air condition, refrigeration stand out the most. Direct shot across the board on that.

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    • on February 17, 2016 at 3:37 pm mendo

      *mod test*. . .divorce, divorce. . .*/mod test*

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    • on February 17, 2016 at 4:32 pm Captain Obvious

      > “High-earning women (doctors, lawyers) tend to pair up with their economic equals” ——— I have long suspected that that’s at the heart of lesb!anism amongst STEM chicks – chicks simply will not settle down with a dude who has an IQ less than they, and STEM chicks tend to be rather homely, so they tend not to attract a lot of male attention, ergo STEM chicks often end up munching the carpet with one another.

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      • on February 17, 2016 at 4:39 pm Captain Obvious

        > “why do female dancers have a thing for male welders?)” ——— Not gonna snark too much here, because welders tend to have pretty dadgum high IQs [as do certified electricians, and most plumbers]. I’d guess that welders are fairly powerful dudes, and they work with their hands in the physical world, and dancers are hyper-narcissists, who work with their legs in the physical world, so the dancers probably wouldn’t be all that keen on discussing the finer points of Voltaire or Sartre on a first date…

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      • on February 17, 2016 at 5:45 pm Andrew Alpha

        I have been with a handful dancers. I also know how to weld.

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      • on February 17, 2016 at 5:44 pm Andrew Alpha

        Sad, sad world for them

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      • on February 17, 2016 at 5:57 pm Captain Obvious

        Would you agree that dancers tend to live very much in the physical world and the here and now? That they aren’t so much into abstractions [“I wonder how much money this Beta Bux CPA will earn after a decade at a Big Four firm?”] so much as they are into reality [“OMG he’s got broad shoulders and a square chin and that torch is burning at 2000F!”]…

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      • on February 17, 2016 at 9:19 pm trav777

        I fucked a STEM chick the other night…was a chem eng. She was in some startup type weird insurance company, I cannot remember.

        She had pretty big tits, banged her first date in the back seat of my car

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      • on February 17, 2016 at 9:40 pm Exurban

        With you, but it’s not the IQ it’s the dollars.

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      • on February 18, 2016 at 7:12 am Captain Obvious

        > “STEM chick… pretty big tits…” ——— Sigh. Welp, let’s give it the old college try.

        CROISSANT BLANC DEDANS FOUR BLANC!!!

        WEIß BRÖTCHEN HINEIN WEIßE BACKOFEN!!!

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  4. on February 17, 2016 at 3:19 pm whorefinder

    So you’re saying the Faggot Within is shooting for a single garbage man?

    Faggot within rape!

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    • on February 17, 2016 at 3:47 pm Philomathean

      A Haitian dishwasher

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      • on February 17, 2016 at 4:13 pm PA

        Strapon got into a catfight with Boehner’s daughter?

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      • on February 17, 2016 at 5:33 pm Philomathean

        Lol!

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    • on February 17, 2016 at 4:09 pm sixbullets

      When the minimum wage pops up to $15 an hour and he makes double, will his girl quality double as well?

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      • on February 18, 2016 at 12:55 pm whorefinder

        Like McDonald’s, he’ll just switch to robots.

        …from his left hand.

        Faggot Within rape!

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  5. on February 17, 2016 at 3:22 pm Adapter

    FIRST!

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  6. on February 17, 2016 at 3:26 pm bishca

    Hmm… Female welders partner with… Female wastewater treatment plant operators. So of the miniscule number of female welders sampled they’re all dykes, shocker

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  7. on February 17, 2016 at 3:27 pm Female Hypergamy Is Real – Manosphere.com

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  8. on February 17, 2016 at 3:28 pm Balmung

    There’s an engineer at the office who is tall, athletic, and a former Marine dating another engineer who is a short, plain, Asian waifu. One feels pity and contempt for a man who can’t maximize their potential with women. Jeb springs to mind.

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    • on February 17, 2016 at 3:35 pm Wrong Side of History

      I see so many guys underachieving.

      A lot of them are more introverted in nature and not suited for an r-selected society that rewards brash peacocking.

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      • on February 17, 2016 at 4:01 pm dave1941

        I’m an underachiever because I wanted to marry and have children. In a traditional society, pretty young women are down for that, but in our Gomorrah those girls will divorce you for cash and prizes if you don’t maintain tight game 24/7. So I married a plain-jane with no social skills and we have four kids so far.

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    • on February 17, 2016 at 6:15 pm Olay Dave

      Jeb needed a feminine mother. Instead he got a tough George Washington look alike!

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      • on February 17, 2016 at 6:22 pm Captain Obvious

        Ouch. LOL’ed.

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      • on February 17, 2016 at 7:33 pm Lucius Somesuch

        Sadly, George Washington didn’t have any sons either

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      • on February 17, 2016 at 9:17 pm mmaier2112

        Fuck the Bushes. Murderous, backstabbing seditious fucks. I hope they all burn in Hell.

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      • on February 17, 2016 at 11:49 pm Carlos Danger

        Barbara was a real beauty as a young woman. It’s hard to believe but true.

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    • on February 17, 2016 at 9:22 pm trav777

      maybe she makes him laugh?

      I mean, dude, I been with straight up 10s, but there’s one chick that actually makes me laugh, her personality is a click and it actually somewhat transcends physical attraction, she’s a short little viet girl. Only one who really ever “got” me in the sense that if I told her my really darkest secrets, she wouldn’t go running out into the night. She’s nowhere near the best looking but at the end of the day, what are you gonna be with other than a fading asset anyway? NOBODY is going to look good forever. How many years is the 10 gonna last at 10? Maybe…10?

      And wtf good is a bombshell who flakes and divorcerapes you anyway?

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      • on February 18, 2016 at 7:27 am Captain Obvious

        I kinda liked the sound of the STEM chick with the big t!ts, but maybe the g00kette could be your mistress on the side?

        OFF-WHITE BUNZ -> YELLOW OVEN ?!?!?

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      • on February 18, 2016 at 7:28 am Captain Obvious

        Off-White bunz are better than no bunz at all.

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      • on February 18, 2016 at 7:37 am Greg Eliot

        Off-white bunz just wind up self-identifying with the nonwhite side… and therefore do not secure a future for White children…

        In fact, as yet another adversary, they make any future for said White children even less secure.

        Better no buns.

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    • on February 18, 2016 at 5:24 pm redpillyogi (@redpillyogi)

      true, but the problem is there are way more 8 SMV males vs. 8 SMV females. simple math and you can see it’s not necessarily the guys fault, just born at a bad time in history when women are encouraged to get disgustingly obese.

      [CH: that… is probably not true. according to smv theory there is more male variance and more female conformity in mate value. nature experiments with males because it doesn’t take many men to impregnate a whole population of women. now, where i’d agree is the idea that obesity has carved away a lot of female smv and brought the normal functioning of the sexual market to a crossroads.]

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  9. on February 17, 2016 at 3:33 pm Will

    @ch

    I’m in grad school. I have the same classes every day (like a job pretty much, more than 40hrs/wk). I had sex with a girl in my class, and we’ve been steadily hooking up about once a week for maybe 2.5 months now–we don’t text much cause isually busy studying and I hate texting and don’t initiate long text dialogues. We see each other every day in class. We are very busy with it honestly, so it’s hard to hang out tons. I have not shown very much beta side, and she has asked “who I’ve hooked up with?” “Are you having sex with other girls I bet you are” etc etc… Which I just game around and avoid usually.

    I’m mid twenties. How do I play this? How do I know she has emotion for me? A part of me wants to get more relationshipy and develop emotions/connection cause I like the girl and catch myself getting emotions for her, but a part of me thinks it’s not worth it cause if shit hits the fan then that would suck so so so much to still be stuck seeing her everyday for the next 2 yrs or whatever. It’s not like she’s smoking hot but it feels like a risk for me because it’s in my professional circle type thing. How would you handle this and can you offer any sort of advice?

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    • on February 17, 2016 at 3:46 pm Carlos Danger

      Say only pretty ones and those who do… whatever it is she won’t do. Women want to think they have lots of competition because it flatters them to think they have become the one.

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    • on February 17, 2016 at 3:57 pm Some Guy

      How do I know she has emotion for me?

      You know she has emotion for you because she’s sleeping with you. Women never really want to be in a FWB relationship with men just like men never really want to be in a strictly platonic relationships with a woman. Both men and women will sometimes use those relationships as a possible segue into a real relationship but they never really want to be in them.

      Newsflash for men: any woman who’s fucking you wants to be in a serious relationship with you.

      Newsflash for women: Any man who’s hanging around with you and spending time with you all the time wants to fuck you.

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      • on February 17, 2016 at 4:02 pm Will

        I mean…this makes sense.

        @ch is this accurate is there more to it? Can you chime in at all

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      • on February 17, 2016 at 4:05 pm Will

        When people say stuff like “Say only pretty ones and those who do… whatever it is she won’t do. Women want to think they have lots of competition because it flatters them to think they have become the one.”

        This is what confuses me. Obviously the girl could be like cooking and shit every night for me….but honestly I’m not that needn’t of a guy so I’m not gonna artificially make it seem like there’s other competition…like I’m pretty sure she understands that I can get other girls.

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      • on February 17, 2016 at 4:16 pm quixotic

        Very well said Will and very true

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      • on February 17, 2016 at 4:20 pm quixotic

        *kudos were meant for Some Guy not Will lol

        @Will, what Carlos meant is tell her “I only date girls who do anal” or “I only date girls that do threesomes” something sexual that will make her strive and compare herself to other girls you have dated before (i.e. you are man with EXPECTATIONS who is used to having them met so she better act right)

        its expected she can cook for you bro

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      • on February 17, 2016 at 4:22 pm everybodyhatesscott

        Newsflash for men: any woman who’s fucking you wants to be in a serious relationship with you.

        I don’t think this is true. Now it’s probably some selection bias but I’ve known plenty of examples where people were banging and the guy wanted more and the chick bailed at the first sign of ‘more.’ I guess you could argue wanting more is beta (never ask for exclusivity first) and a tell and that’s what scares the chick away (probably a little true) but that doesn’t mean they automatically want a relationship.

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      • on February 17, 2016 at 5:47 pm Andrew Alpha

        And neither side understands it without external help

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      • on February 17, 2016 at 9:35 pm Barry

        Hookers sleep with men…not much emotions there.

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    • on February 17, 2016 at 4:44 pm Sentient

      “t’s not like she’s smoking hot…

      Med School Will – and here is your answer in your own words ^^^. Also stop validation seeking, stop the neediness. Enjoy her, and keep an open dance card bucko. If you want, enjoy her chasing you as you continue to deflect her attempts to curtail your sexual proclivities…

      Not worth settling into a mono relationship with this girl.

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      • on February 17, 2016 at 5:12 pm Will

        Sentient that’s not the answer. She’s hot but she’s not the hottest girl I’ve been with is what I’m saying

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      • on February 17, 2016 at 6:41 pm Sentient

        Will come on now, your words as originally written – the best indication of your state of mind – are “It’s not like she’s smoking hot” – so to be clear, she is not smoking hot… LOL but they are then followed by “but it feels like a risk for me “…. well duh… of course it does.

        Stop validation seeking. what kind of doctor do you intend to be? You need to trust your gut man, and don’t change your diagnosis absent any new facts…

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    • on February 17, 2016 at 4:45 pm Captain Obvious

      > “How do I know she has emotion for me?” ——— Order her to get off of the ab0rtifacients [BCPs, IUDs, subdural implants, etc]. Don’t ask her. Order her. Then you’ll find out real fast what she thinks of you. [PS: I’m assuming that you’ve pre-screened her as being Pro-L!fe.]

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      • on February 17, 2016 at 5:06 pm everybodyhatesscott

        My friend was dating a slut who had a preggo scare and the first thing the 27 year old chick said was ‘abortion’

        I’m pretty pro-life in general but I can sorta understand why a dumb 16 year old wouldn’t want a kid, at twenty fucking seven abortion should not be an option. I’ll get off my high horse now.

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      • on February 17, 2016 at 5:08 pm Captain Obvious

        A while back, I had a terrible “A” scare with a female academic [but then her period started again], and I swore after that that I would never again dip it in a Leftist SJW pro-Death ch!ck. Pro-L!fe is just too important to me.

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      • on February 17, 2016 at 5:10 pm Captain Obvious

        Also, not to get all GE/MattKing-ish, but when the lightbulb goes off in your head, and you finally understand why G0d endowed us with sexuality in the first place, then all you wanna do is make babeez.

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      • on February 17, 2016 at 5:26 pm everybodyhatesscott

        A while back, I had a terrible “A” scare with a female academic [but then her period started again], and I swore after that that I would never again dip it in a Leftist SJW pro-Death ch!ck. Pro-L!fe is just too important to me.

        I dated a girl who made an abortion joke who was a leftist SJW pro-death, and yeah, never again. The current gal and I talked about what we’d do if she gets preggos and abortion is off the table.

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      • on February 17, 2016 at 5:48 pm Andrew Alpha

        Why would you date that type of chick? I mean I almost dated a few of the types. I mean they were hot, but there was a reason I ALMOST dated them.

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      • on February 17, 2016 at 6:03 pm Captain Obvious

        It was really weird – some close friends told me, “Hey, you gotta meet this girl,” and so we all went out bar-hopping, and what with me being Prince Charming, the two of us were banging before dawn the next morning. Got to know her a little over the following couple of weeks [before her period finally started again], and my G0d was she a hateful evil SJW w!tch when she was sober. But a total doll when she was drunk, however.

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      • on February 17, 2016 at 7:56 pm Sentient

        “at twenty fucking seven abortion should not be an option.”

        He… i knew these two sisters in college. back then abortion really never was on my mind, just a lot of news… hysteria etc. Programming and all.

        One night we were hanging out and it came out that they both had had multiple abortions… these were wealthy, blonde white girls, in college… using abortion as birth control.

        Made me change all my views on the subject.

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      • on February 18, 2016 at 7:46 am Captain Obvious

        Sentient, there was a chick like that in grad school – her family was very famous within their business, and she has since f*cked her way to a prominent Ivy League professorette position in charge of the most famous professional publication in her discipline. Back in the day, her BFF told me that she was having multiple abortions every year, and she was always marching in the Pro-Death demonstrations down in D.C. Now she’s single and post-Wall with zero chillunz and multiple face-lifts [judging from the stock photo on her website].

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    • on February 17, 2016 at 5:05 pm plumpjack

      @will
      bro, sounds like you’re doing just fine.. don’t feel like you need to “play” it a certain way or start ratcheting on something that’s not broken. sit back, chill, and get outta your head. you’ve got a good setup. mid-20s you don’t need a serious relationship to distract you anyway. you could easily have dozens of these before you are ready to settle down

      there’s nothing bad about having sex (as long as you don’t stick your dick in crazy) so nothing bad will happen as long as don’t treat her like shit by getting caught lying, giving her false expectations, dumping her randomly or going full retard beta on her. if it gets weird at all then pull back a bit (just a bit) smoothly, poker-faced and without blame. always start with a feather, not a hammer

      it would be a good idea to mix up your routine, though, and skip a week from seeing her now and then. if she’s pinging you for commitment then it’s a sign that you’re providing a tantalizing amount of domestic bliss. keep her on her toes a little more by introducing a bit a unavailability

      otherwise, continue to be nice to her. innoculate yourself from an infection of oneitis by keeping two in the hopper. stay aloof. shag her good n’ hard. be sure to pull out and cum on her stomach

      and ferchrissakes have some fun

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      • on February 17, 2016 at 5:11 pm Will

        That’s the thing though man…I wouldn’t mind developing more of an LTR, you know with more emotional connection. I feel like I always get caught in this same limbo (it’s happened with like 4 girls now in the last 3 years)

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      • on February 17, 2016 at 5:30 pm uh

        Lol – relationships don’t survive med school.

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      • on February 17, 2016 at 5:37 pm plumpjack

        ah…I’m not worried about you will. you’re getting your dick wet, so it’s only a matter of time before you meet a girl who feels the same way you do

        listen, man, relationships are a YUUUGE distraction. unless it’s for having kids. (hat tip to cap). and I’m saying this having had many good and bad ones. they’re easy to get into and hard to get out of. so count your blessings that it’s eluding you. all that you get out of a relationship that dramatically cramps your freedom and doesn’t subsequently produce children is a steady lay. and ask any master player whether it’s a sensible trade-off to make when you can have several ladies at once and still get laid regularly and he’ll tell you no

        here’s one more thing to keep in mind, will. every time I found myself pining for a r-e-l-a-t-i-o-n-s-h-i-p it usually meant that I was in a state of exhaustion and needing emotional support. as soon as i got some rest and started hitting the gym again the craving passed. so don’t make the mistake of thinking you should settle in with a girl just because your bed feels empty right now and your overworked. you’re head ain’t right. get your head right first before you start thinking about partnership with a so-so girl. otherwise you’ll be stuck in something long term that doesn’t really serve you

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      • on February 17, 2016 at 6:36 pm Sentient

        it’s all neediness and validation seeking… Unless you are willing to have kids and start paying for them right now, no need to ponder any relationship.

        work on your inner game WIll.

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      • on February 17, 2016 at 6:54 pm Vagina dominator

        @Sentient

        You speak wisdom. But don’t you see that Will feels that she feels so he feels that she might feel or otherwise he might feeeeel and then she’d feel…

        Will, it’s a trap young man, and you are walking right into it.

        Wake up! Look away from the Gorgon. Resist the hamster hypnosis. Have some self-respect. It’s your life, Will, not hers. Do what you want and her feelz can go to hell.

        If you do what she wants it’s guaranteed that six months from now you will wake up boxed in, ball-less, and wondering how it all happened.

        Now get out there and play like a man!

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      • on February 17, 2016 at 7:12 pm Sentient

        Vag – no I see it… I hope will does…

        Will her posing these questions to you are pure shit tests… she wants you to commit to her… and she is pushing the issue. what do you get from this? Nothing. She will be happy for a few weeks then resent it. because she wants the guy who wont give in to her.

        A sign for you to consider her as (OPEN)LTR material will be like this – she says “I know you are out with other girls, I just enjoy the time we share when we are together” or some such… Not shit tests and def not ultimatums (which are coming). She will be coming over unsolicited and making you dinners, helping you out, following your needs and schedule… Nothing else.

        But the biggest thing you can take away from all this is – IT”S NOT ABOUT YOU. It is never about YOU. She does not even know YOU. How can she? A few months of weekly interactions? LOL

        Doesn’t matter though because she is following her programming, select guy, lock down guy. Fit guy into whatever vision she is feeling at the moment. She is a cloud of emotion and chemicals… ever stare at a cloud will? It is always changing. as is she. Once she get’s what she thinks she wants it will change… so don’t fall for it.

        You don’t need a woman to validate yourself. if you want to see her see her, if not don’t. But don’t play the part of some 8th grade beta boy regardless…

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      • on February 17, 2016 at 7:15 pm Will

        lets get this straight I *want* to be in a LTR with her…

        I guess I got what I asked for and it seems a general consesus is to play it cool and keep going with the flow. And I agree they are a huge distraction but she’s in my class so it’s not like it would be as bad.

        And I get that I’m being somewhat needy. It’s more curious as To how to do this whole developing more connection when I *want* to. And jeez man, what’s wrong with desiring a little emotional support here and there even if I am being “neeeeedy” you can have emotional support in non pussy/beta positions

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      • on February 17, 2016 at 7:19 pm Will

        Sentient I totally agree and get it.

        Believe she said “if your sleeping with other girls I want you to use condoms” or something like that

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      • on February 17, 2016 at 7:48 pm Sentient

        “You can have emotional support in non pussy/beta positions”

        No you can’t Will. That the thing. Emotional support AND $2.75 will get you on the subway… It’s all on you in this life. Her emotional support is worthless, even if she were to give it.

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      • on February 17, 2016 at 7:53 pm Will

        Sentient I’m not talking about going home and crying on her shoulder about how hard work was or something…

        In non beta form. For example dating a *happy* girl, a girl who’s always smiling and happy around you. When you’re feeling down call her up and her smile and happiness will cheer you up.

        That kind of thing

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      • on February 17, 2016 at 8:00 pm Sentient

        Will –

        “For example dating a *happy* girl, a girl who’s always smiling and happy around you. When you’re feeling down call her up and her smile and happiness will cheer you up.”

        Yeah that’s nice… ever watch Mad Men? There was a line in that that resonated with me… Roger Sterling, who had all the best lines and reminded me of myself, said in one episode, having landed a new but small account and the team was questioning him, puzzled by it, he said “ahhh… there is no business like new business”

        and it is exactly the same with girls… you want a bright happy bubbly girl…? dollars to donuts you are always better off with a NEW one!

        Have fun!

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      • on February 17, 2016 at 8:07 pm Sentient

        well that line’s not here, but good all the same… LOL

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      • on February 17, 2016 at 8:51 pm plumpjack

        “You can have emotional support in non pussy/beta positions”

        go ahead, will…dive in. go ahead and find that perfect female who you can fuck every day, and you can listen to each other’s problems and offer each other support. you can order a milkshake and drink it with two straws, gazing longingly into each others’ eyes. you can share your childhood memories and be amazed at how much you have in common. you can finish each others’ sentences like you’ve known each other for many past lives….

        go for it, will. dive all the way in, and keep diving. keep diving. down, down, down. until you find the bottom. what you’ll probably find is that what you thought was an infinitely deep pool of spiritual, loving bliss was actually just a kiddie pool, a LEAKING kiddie pool that has to be filled constantly…by YOU

        cynical?… maybe….i’d love to be proven wrong. so go ahead and dive in anyway and hopefully it works out differently for you than it has for all the men who have lived and died and been fooled by the blue pill myth before you. but bring a life jacket anyways bro. you might need it

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      • on February 17, 2016 at 9:02 pm Will

        I mean I’ve been hurt before so this all makes sense. Can’t tell if some of you are just bitter and jaded though.

        Like i feel like once you understand red pill you can have a healthy relationship. You will know not to slide down the beta back burner. And to me, wanting to be in an LTR with a girl isn’t sliding down the back burner

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      • on February 17, 2016 at 9:13 pm Will

        Also, what do I say if she asks again “are you sleeping with other girls” or however she words it?

        She’ll eventually make me start wearing condoms when I hook up with her which is not what I want to do

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      • on February 17, 2016 at 9:29 pm plumpjack

        @will “Also, what do I say if she asks again “are you sleeping with other girls” or however she words it?”

        your letting her lead. disrupt the constant communication and go dark for for a few days. she won’t feel entitled to such information if she senses that you’re not hooked. in fact, you can keep a girl in this state indefinitely. any time your gut tells you she’s getting close locking you down then she’s too comfortable and you need to withdraw your attention

        “Can’t tell if some of you are just bitter and jaded though.”

        Lol. a better way to describe it is “awake”

        that’s it will.. your session had ended

        pj

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      • on February 17, 2016 at 9:35 pm trav777

        Will

        You wanna be alpha?

        Then tell all these spergs to STFU and do what YOU WANT TO DO.

        If you wanna wife this chick up…do it.

        If you wanna FWB her, do it.

        Do what YOU WANT. ACT. This is the alpha way. If you fuck up and she screws you over, you will learn. Alphas fall off horses and get back on.

        This forum is populated by people who barely live…talk about needing approval and shit. The vast lot of you are so all-consumed with appearing more than you are, just STFU already.

        TBH, I have learnt more about what is and is not alpha from reading the comments on this board than you can possibly imagine.

        If YOU want a relationship with her, then do what YOU want. Fuck all this bullshit advice from people who aren’t you, don’t have your values, and care about shit I couldn’t honestly give a fuck about. Don’t live your life according to the fucking rules of wanna-be players and PUAs.

        That said, it is tactically risky to engage in a relationship with someone in your professional circle. On the other hand, I’ve met a great many of these people who went the distance.

        And I’m sure that those guys, when asked about their life’s regrets, were not “gee, I wish I had run more stacks and frames and IOIs and Kinos” and the rest of this artificial bullshit.

        If the relationship isn’t what you want in a year or two, leave it. Shrug, why make this harder than it has to be?

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      • on February 17, 2016 at 9:40 pm Will

        How is that letting her lead? I’m having sex with her, she’s asks if I’m hooking up with other girls (in which I avoid the question which she takes as a yes) and then asks me to wear condoms because she doesn’t want an std…..

        Man I see this girl in class every day. But yeah I could go dark and ignore her. She would just end up texting me “hey what are you doing” or something when we have a free Non study weekend

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      • on February 17, 2016 at 9:42 pm Will

        Wear them when I have sex with *her*

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      • on February 18, 2016 at 1:41 am streetsweeper

        @trav777
        “The vast lot of you are so all-consumed with appearing more than you are, just STFU already”

        BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

        Try-hard trav… Who’s consumed with appearing more than they are? your try-hard, blow-hard posts reek of short-man’s syndrome. learn some manners you little squirt

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      • on February 18, 2016 at 4:40 am Vagina dominator

        @ Trav

        And I’m sure that those guys, when asked about their life’s regrets, were not “gee, I wish I had run more stacks and frames and IOIs and Kinos” and the rest of this artificial bullshit.

        I am sure we all remember this in the media from a few years ago.

        http://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2012/feb/01/top-five-regrets-of-the-dying

        # 1 was said to be…”I wish I’d had the courage to live a life true to myself, not the life others expected of me.”

        Hard to say where this leaves us in this debate, but I do know that no bros ever manipulated me and wasted my time and money remotely like the hos – bless their selfish, superficial and completely self-absorbed hearts.

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      • on February 18, 2016 at 7:02 am Greg Eliot

        what you’ll probably find is that what you thought was an infinitely deep pool of spiritual, loving bliss was actually just a kiddie pool, a LEAKING kiddie pool that has to be filled constantly…by YOU.

        Well, it’s at least as big as an above ground, when you find “the right woman”…

        … but all the rest of what you say is all-too-true… more’s the pity.

        Well-said. COTW.

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      • on February 18, 2016 at 9:04 am uh

        Why is every other comment by Trav about how the rest of us are beneath him?

        He’s always like, raahhh you guys are such try-hards talking about the women you’ve fucked, but lemme tell you about all the fly poon I’VE fucked …

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    • on February 18, 2016 at 4:13 am walawala

      I just had this shit test from a girl who texted: “How often do you have sex with other girls?”

      Me: “As often as I can”

      There’s a variety of ways I respond to this:

      “Behave….”

      “Sex sex sex…why is it always about sex with you??”

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  10. on February 17, 2016 at 3:36 pm mendo

    Got an unemployed buddy married to a doctor. She’s surrounded by alpha docs all day as her field is usually only filled with women.

    I’m waiting for the phone call/text when he says they’re getting divorced.

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    • on February 18, 2016 at 2:17 am Lazy Hero

      Hope your buddy divorce rapes the shit out of her. BTW, I’ve known and worked with some Docs, most are not alpha.

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      • on February 18, 2016 at 5:48 am Mean Mr. Mustard

        The same goes for academia.
        Very few academics are Alpha.

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      • on February 18, 2016 at 7:26 am Sentient

        The only docs that come across as naturally alpha uniformly are the surgeons… the rest are situational alpha at best, but needy validation seeking credentialist materialistic betas most of the time.

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      • on February 18, 2016 at 7:40 am Greg Eliot

        That’s because surgeons have to actually know what they’re doing, since their fuck-ups are readily apparent.

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      • on February 18, 2016 at 8:16 am Sentient

        They also believe they are the best and most skillful… all mutually reinforcing loops.

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      • on February 18, 2016 at 9:00 am mendo

        He won’t. He likes being the “nice guy” in all that shit, so if/should that ever happen, he’ll just do whatever makes her happy.

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  11. on February 17, 2016 at 3:41 pm Philomathean

    CH,

    Per your Twatter, I have a new invention.

    The male expression of Hypergamy is:

    Aesthetogamy.

    *
    *
    *
    It was born here.

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    • on February 17, 2016 at 5:30 pm uh

      Hypogamy would be fine.

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      • on February 17, 2016 at 5:45 pm Philomathean

        Naw. Look up the prefix hypo.

        Aesthetogamy derives from the word “aesthete”, or, lover of beauty. Methinks it captures perfectly the healthy man’s sexual instinct.

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      • on February 18, 2016 at 8:58 am uh

        I don’t need to look it up. Super/sub are cognates of hyper/hypo. Hence, hypogamy, dating “under” (younger, smaller, prob less money), would be the logical opposite of hypergamy, dating “over”(older, taller, more money).

        By the way, in Greek, aisthetikos means “sensible, pertaining to the senses” — and there being nothing not pertaining the senses, it’s useless in referring to “gamy”.

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      • on February 18, 2016 at 1:07 pm Philomathean

        You’re playing semantic gymnastics. “Hypo” implies underperformance. A man, ugly or handsome, who dates attractive women is not underperforming.

        I’d argue omega males suffer hypogamy.

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    • on February 17, 2016 at 8:22 pm Kaminsky

      How about ‘gamgamy’? Legs are the most important over time.

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  12. on February 17, 2016 at 3:45 pm Libertardian

    http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/02/17/islamic-rape-of-europe-polish-news-magazines-shockingly-frank-cover/

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  13. on February 17, 2016 at 3:48 pm Laguna Beach Fogey

    Physiogamy, bonergamy…it’s all the same.

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    • on February 17, 2016 at 4:40 pm quixotic

      Great job? I don’t give a shit. Socially conscious? Fuck you! Go home and play with your cats. You wanna find a man today – be physically attractive! You think this is abuse? You think this is abuse, you cock carousal rider? You can’t take this, how can you take the abuse you get in the dating market? You don’t like it, leave. I can go out there tonight with the materials you’ve got and move toward finding a quality man. Tonight! Can you? Can YOU? Go and do likewise. Get mad you bitches, get mad. You want to know what it takes to get commitment? It takes a tight body, a healthy diet, and feminine energy to get real commitment. Go and do likewise ladies. High value men are out there. You work on your body, he’s yours. You don’t, I got no sympathy for you.

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      • on February 17, 2016 at 6:55 pm Kaminsky

        Quixotic,

        Amazing.

        Here’s mine from a Few Good Men, substituting Col. Jessup with a woman who works out.

        Girl, we live in a world that has squat racks, and those squat racks have to be used by women with asses. Who’s gonna do it? You? You, Lieutenant Weinberg? I have a greater ass than you can possibly fathom. You weep for having a fat ass, and you curse your sofa. You have that luxury. You have the luxury of not knowing what I know — that your ass, while tragic, probably won’t create boners; and my ass, while tight and incomprehensible to you, makes boners.

        You don’t want the truth because deep down in places you don’t talk about at parties, you want me in that squat rack — you need me in that squat rack.

        We use words like “thong,” “high heels,” “femininity.” We use these words as the backbone of a life spent creating boners. You use them as a punch line.

        I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a woman who rises and sleeps under the blanket of the very boners that I provide and then questions the manner in which I provide them.
        I would rather that you just said “thank you” and went on your way. Otherwise, I suggest you pick up a barbell and squat. Either way, I don’t give a DAMN what you think your fat ass is entitled to!

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      • on February 18, 2016 at 9:02 am mendo

        quixotic and kaminsky FTW!

        You guys rock. We should have a running of taking charged film dialog and turning into this.

        Up next: Full Metal Jacket!

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    • on February 17, 2016 at 5:48 pm Andrew Alpha

      Thank you

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  14. on February 17, 2016 at 3:52 pm Wrong Side of History

    OT:

    Is Madonna-Whore the male equivalent of alpha fux/beta bux?

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  15. on February 17, 2016 at 3:54 pm Red Eleven

    Stephan Molyneux confirmed Heartiste reader:

    SM: “Diversity plus Proximity plus The State equals Civil War”

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  16. on February 17, 2016 at 4:12 pm quixotic

    “Second, male physiogamy is also different in degree from female hypergamy. Women are biologically compelled to aim for a man higher in SMV from themselves, and this compulsion is strong enough that many women will accept long bouts of solitude before settling for a man at their own SMV level

    So true! Two of my plates told me they went through long bouts of self-imposed exile from dating because they couldn’t find that “better” man CH talks about. Quality girls can and do go through long stints of abstinence, rather than just fuck some guy that doesn’t trigger their hypergamy. Its amazing because when guys get thirsty, we just go dumpster diving. Women have a pretty strong aversion to dumpster diving. The guy has to be jacked, rich, or have SOMETHING she can use to rationalize the decision to have sex. Note this only applies to girls who know that a women’s notch count matters to high-value men.

    The 31 yo went 7 months without dating before we met. Recently I told her to find someone else as she wants a boyfriend. She admitted she listened to me and dated a few guys but none stack up to me 🙂

    The 24 yo went SIX YEARS. She she went out with about 80 guys on first dates/beta orbiter “lets just hang out” meetups with men that were interested in her during that period. Claims she fucked none of these guys, just enjoyed the free food/drinks/entertainment and then nexted them. Many of them still send “hi how are you” texts hoping she replies “im good, come over and fuck me.” lmao Her notch count is very low for her age, mainly because she values herself. She could be lying to me but either way i don’t care

    Dating younger girls makes you see how truly fucked up the dating market is right now. She knows tons of young guys that look like models and go through girls like kleenex. She knows older rich guys that take girls on trips as a normal course of action. Her friends that are hot and slutty literally have a different dick for each day of the week, they take pics of all their fuckboi’s dicks and and make collages to share on their girl group chat yeeeeesh disgusting. She knows tons of beta orbiters who are always trying to give her money and jobs or bringing her unsolicited food or presents. Last week she told me she ordered a pizza and the white knight behind the counter proudly put a free sandwich in her order. She laughed at him, “what kind of guy thinks this works?” Dating a younger girl has helped kill the last remnants of blue pill programing in me lol Chivalry is dead, long live the skittles guy

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    • on February 17, 2016 at 4:18 pm mendo

      Great intel. I laugh at myself, seeing my former beta having done likewise of what you mentioned those poor bastards doing.

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      • on February 17, 2016 at 4:50 pm quixotic

        I know the feeling brother. Makes you ashamed of your old self but proud of your new self for waking up, some guys never do…

        Unplug from the blue pill, live and learn. Like Rollo says, don’t wish it were easier, wish you were better

        Luckily CH and other truth-talking men are here to help us correct our mistakes and give their hard-earned experience as guidance

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      • on February 17, 2016 at 6:09 pm Captain Obvious

        The thing is that I actually ENJOY taking a chick out to a nice restaurant and eating some tasty food and sipping on a bottle of wine and just TALKING with her. F*ck skittles – that’s n!gger food. Show me da Filet Mignon, very rare, and two wine glasses & a bottle of red wine, and get outta the way…

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    • on February 17, 2016 at 4:31 pm Wrong Side of History

      Man

      I never did anything lame like give girls free shit. My tingle killing habits were complimenting their looks and apologizing for interrupting whatever boring/empty-headed thing they were about to say.

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    • on February 17, 2016 at 5:52 pm Andrew Alpha

      “Dating a younger girl has helped kill the last remnants of blue pill programming in me lol chivalry is dead, long live the skittles guy.

      I laughed when I read this cause of the perfect concoction of humor and truth to this.

      All I got to say is, “same”

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    • on February 17, 2016 at 6:32 pm Unacknowledged_Legislator

      ” Its amazing because when guys get thirsty, we just go dumpster diving.” To a degree, but um, yep..

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    • on February 17, 2016 at 9:40 pm trav777

      I just fucked a girl who went 8 years abstinent. These hoez be crazy.

      Yea girls be on the free shit trip these days.

      As an older wealthier go on trip guy…I feel i must interject. You’re paying for a companion who you can fuck at a rate far cheaper than a real whore. So many girls misinterpret things. They usually think they’re really fuckin special because I travel to some odd ass place to see them or else take them somewhere…nah bitch I just got money to burn and wanna go somewhere with someone on my terms.

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      • on February 18, 2016 at 8:04 am streetsweeper

        @trav777
        “talk about needing approval and shit. The vast lot of you are so all-consumed with appearing more than you are, just STFU already”

        BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!

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  17. on February 17, 2016 at 4:59 pm parallelplace

    Reblogged this on parallelplace.

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  18. on February 17, 2016 at 5:02 pm Balmung

    OT:

    Jeb!’s Twitter feed is comedy gold! My favorite was “Hey @realDonaldTrump — The people of South Carolina are sick and tired of people tearing down George W. Bush.” Like W has some massive personality cult that people will reflexively defend! ROFL he’s been a non-person for 7 years.

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    • on February 17, 2016 at 5:14 pm WillBest

      Apparently GWB has an 80% approval rating among SC GOP primary voters. He is also generally favored among the GOP generally in the 55-60% range.

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      • on February 17, 2016 at 5:58 pm Balmung

        True, burnt have to wonder how much that is due to comparisons to O. I’ll even admit W’s cocky but halfwits smirk is preferable to O’s fag face.

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      • on February 17, 2016 at 7:30 pm wolfie65

        Many of these polls seem very …biased…..
        I can’t recall ever having had the impression that any of the Bushes were ‘revered’ in any way.
        George sr. rode into the White House on Reagan’s coat tails – and promptly screwed up and up and up, resulting in enough pissed off GOP voters to usher in 8 years of Clinton.
        George jr. just barely lawyered his way past The Man Who Invented The Internet And Stopped Global Warming by a hanging chad or two and proceeded to stick his nose into the barely controlled beehive known as the Middle East.
        Jebedidabediah is just pathetic.
        All of them are useless stuffed suit apparatchiks, precisely the type of careerist insider politician scum everyone is sick of way beyond any measure.
        If ‘GOP primary voters’ means what I think it means (neo-cons, party-above-all tunnel visionaries and bible thumpers lite), well, no wonder.
        Most normal people would be just as happy if they never heard the names Bush or Clinton ever again in their lives.

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      • on February 17, 2016 at 7:40 pm The Straw

        Re GHWB – “enough pissed off GOP voters to usher in 8 years of Clinton.”

        Not true Wolfie… It was the GOP Jewish vote, which went to Perot in protest of GHWB’s refusal to allow Israeli air strikes in response to the SCUDS in DW I.

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  19. on February 17, 2016 at 5:18 pm Marc Bahn

    This is an unprecedented political season. Women can be discussed any time.

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    • on February 17, 2016 at 6:26 pm Captain Obvious

      LOL’ed. All we do is opine about the Trumpening. This thread is like a respite. A friggin vacation from 24×7 Eskimo Watch duty.

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      • on February 18, 2016 at 4:50 am Vagina dominator

        Who are you and what have you done with CO?

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    • on February 17, 2016 at 9:10 pm rpg

      We missed a golden opportunity to let Israel bomb Iraq in 1991. Then the Arabs could have all gone crispy with Israel together. GWB was an idiot.

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  20. on February 17, 2016 at 5:34 pm sestamibi

    why do female dancers have a thing for male welders?

    Maybe because they saw this:

    http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0085549/?ref_=nv_sr_6

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    • on February 17, 2016 at 6:18 pm Captain Obvious

      I knew it was gonna be flashdance before I even clicked on it.

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      • on February 17, 2016 at 6:19 pm Captain Obvious

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      • on February 17, 2016 at 8:01 pm sestamibi

        LOL! Hey, at least you’re old enough to remember it.

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  21. on February 17, 2016 at 5:39 pm Ryan S.

    Don’t worry about the Alt-Right tradcons so much. They make great points about other topics, but half of them are die-hard religious funds who view all sex outside marriage as sinful. They’re never going to appreciate or understand unpleasant truths about the dating market

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  22. on February 17, 2016 at 5:54 pm Andrew Alpha

    Ok, nursing related and teaching related girls are the girls most guys in my areas of work usually marry.

    Although I cringed a bit when I realized they included same sex marriages too.

    Ok.

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  23. on February 17, 2016 at 6:58 pm Kaminsky

    Men…judged by money. 95% lay down their lives and sacrifice free time for money

    Women…judged by the shape of their ass… .002% even know the difference between a low bar and high bar squat.

    POOLSIDE OVERSEAS.

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  24. on February 17, 2016 at 7:44 pm wolfie65

    All of this was common knowledge for thousands of years and has only been fucked up since about, oh….well, dang….it’s those 60’s again, ain’t that a bitch.
    The seeds may have been sown earlier (Jane Austen, anyone?), but the noxious weed didn’t actually sprout until they fertilized it with some burning bras, ‘free’ love and lots & lots & LOTS MORE pot.
    Every woman still knows all of this today, but by golly, they will go to the mat kicking and screaming, denyingdenyingdenying it all the way to the grave.
    It’s the guys they really did a brain poisoning number on, way too many of them seem to feel compelled to pretend to like her for her brains in order to get anywhere.

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    • on February 17, 2016 at 8:24 pm Wrong Side of History

      Nothing new under the sun.

      Sophistry/shitlibbery comes and goes.

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    • on February 17, 2016 at 9:19 pm Arbiter

      Wolfie sounds lonely. Maybe his neocon-loyal lies about history put women off. Tell us again how the evil Hitler wanted to invade Europe, Wolfie. Amusing though that such a leftist “useful idiot” will curse women, contrary to feminism – but I guess it’s about whatever belief that benefits you personally.

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    • on February 18, 2016 at 6:59 am Edward Waverley

      No, Jane Austen was thoroughly Red Pill, have you read her? Hypergamy is not concealed there, but revealed. Betas are appropriately and relentlessly mocked, Alphas revered. Uppity social climbing is condemned, in both its female and male forms. There is no trace anywhere of blindness to the SMV, no hint of sexual equalism. Men are men in the novels, and women women.

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    • on February 18, 2016 at 7:23 am Greg Eliot

      WTF? Three comments eaten? Hey, CH, how about giving us a hint as to what words WordPress is flagging?

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      • on February 18, 2016 at 7:26 am Greg Eliot

        WordPress test

        sex, romance, novel

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      • on February 18, 2016 at 7:28 am Greg Eliot

        All I’d been trying to say is the novel in question is merely a romance novel, but without sex.

        So what if Pride & Prejudice admits women like to m-a-r-r-y up? In all other aspects, it’s as Cathedral as can be.

        This is literature?

        And will the mods fucking fix WordPress so that it doesn’t kill posts for saying m-a-r-r-y? 😡

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  25. on February 17, 2016 at 7:51 pm Flip

    I know a few very cute early 20s girls with low paying jobs like vet tech or dog groomer. They are eagerly sought after by men and could no doubt marry a rich lawyer or doctor if they wanted even though they have no career to speak of. They wouldn’t marry a guy that made as little as them and there’s no way a guy with such low earning power could get a comparable mate.

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    • on February 21, 2016 at 8:18 pm KBird

      Those girls won’t marry a doctor or lawyer, but they can and do marry financially well-off men who have high prole skilled blue collar jobs. Aviation mechanics, welders, electricians, etc.

      If White Americans all practiced the CEO-secretary mating strategy, we’d soon have all the same problems as the East Asians. It’s better for Western Civilization long term if White Americans marry people in their own social class and IQ bracket because the system produces more creative geniuses. Granted, it also produces more idiots, but Western Civilization was always carried on the backs of the many creative geniuses.

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  26. on February 17, 2016 at 7:55 pm Female Hypergamy Is Real | Reaction Times

    […] Source: Heartiste […]

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  27. on February 17, 2016 at 8:57 pm ShitlordStation

    In my MBA program there are a couple of girls who are engaged to less educated guys who will be making significantly less money than their girl once the girl graduates. If these marriages actually happen my prediction is: disaster. Unless the guys have serious game. Have met one of the guys, not much game that I can see. I would bet money on divorce unless the girl gets bun in oven fast and decides to abandon the rat race.

    [CH: i know a few happy couple where the woman makes significantly more than the man. you’re right, they can work if the guy has compensating attributes. in the cases i know of, the relatively lower income men are 1. funny 2. imperturbably ZFG or 3. socially connected.]

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  28. on February 17, 2016 at 9:17 pm Arbiter

    Women like to marry men with a higher income? Oh, my! Except that’s not the definition of “hypergamy” invented in the manosphere.

    It started like this: Men were accused of being polygamous, wanting to sleep with different women. The right response to this would be to explain the evolutionary basis for this, and to explain that men also are monogamous, in particular in harsh climates where children don’t survive without both parents.

    But this would require knowledge of evolutionary psychology. Instead some clever mind came up with a “No, you!” response: Well, maybe men are polygamous, but women are … hypergamous! Take that!

    “Hypergamy” is a claim that women move from man to man, always seeking someone with more money. Always scheming and only pretending to love a guy. When you are out for a walk with your girlfriend she is looking over her shoulder at every man who passes by, seeking to calculate his interest and financial level.

    This is followed by statements like, “Women can’t feel love, only men can feel love” and “Women can’t feel loyalty because they have no honor.” And of course, “Women only care about their children, the man is just a money bank. Alimony!”

    Bitter and lonely statements. Justifying the speaker’s inability to get a girlfriend.

    This is “proven” by the numbers showing women in the U.S. initiating the majority of divorces. Excluding details such as the entire rest of the world. And the fact that when a couple is not married, so that there is no alimony involved, it is men who initiate most breakups – by far. This means that if it was men who got paid for getting a divorce, the U.S. divorce rate would be even higher. Of course you get more of the behavior that is paid. But we mustn’t get facts get in the way when justifying an MGTOW writer’s loneliness.

    But now, saying that “hypergamy” is proven by women wanting a man who is a provider? That is just an example of how the definition of this word morphs over and over again in order to find its footing.

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    • on February 17, 2016 at 11:22 pm Carlos Danger

      How many women love you? I have a woman who loves me and is loyal. She is very beautiful too, but love requires maturity and most women are incapable of it because our society infantalizes them. These are the kinds of comments that give you away as a shill.

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  29. on February 17, 2016 at 9:23 pm cortesar

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    • on February 18, 2016 at 2:30 am White Power

      Nice one

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      • on February 18, 2016 at 9:23 am Some Guy

        I saw one exactly like that years ago where the guy riding the white man was Bill Clinton. I think it was on Tom Mezger’s site. He had a lot of good cartoons up. This one is a re-do of that one. Still, it’s a good one.

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  30. on February 17, 2016 at 9:47 pm White Power

    Have an account with an online sex hookup site where the women are all naked and pretty much wanting to fuq right away. They are agressive and hot most of them. Nothing like okcupid or match. Anyway, how it relates to this is that a healthy portion of these women are married to wealthy men whom are out of town a lot or are not satisfactory in the sack. Doesn’t seem to matter much what the guy does for his bread, white women have been whorified to the point of seeking only there own satisfaction.

    This does not seem natural to me that a wife and a mother would abandon her family values for some sleaze on the side. Maybe this theory of Hypergamy, thought up by a blogger, has some teeth to it.

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    • on February 18, 2016 at 4:52 am Vagina dominator

      That site sounds interesting, academically speaking, I mean. If you’d share the address I might be able to conduct a study to settle the matter in re the mothers V whores issue.

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      • on February 18, 2016 at 2:15 pm White Power

        Not trying to sell the site but localmilfselfies

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    • on February 18, 2016 at 8:13 am Sentient

      Just Alpha Fux / Beta Bux on display…

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  31. on February 17, 2016 at 9:48 pm Anonymous

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  32. on February 17, 2016 at 9:58 pm Prof. Woland

    It seems that registered nurses and administrative assistants are the basic staple or stand by. Also, I did not see unemployed or welfare mom which probably make up the floor or bottom 25%.

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  33. on February 17, 2016 at 10:05 pm J.T. Malloy

    This hypergamy also applies to girls who try to date up in looks too. I remember when you could fuck an average looking girl who was glad anyone was interested in her. Now, it seems like they spend all their time holding out for a hot guy who is having a bad night and winds up wanting to fuck anything.

    The dating climate really sucks these days and it’s taking a toll on men everywhere.

    When you’re a good looking guy with decent game and you’re still not able to find a good-looking women to fuck or be your girlfriend, something is really wrong with the world.

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    • on February 17, 2016 at 11:16 pm Carlos Danger

      That 30% overweight premium raises their SMV substantially. Then you have at least 30% of the young men who are not fit to even live, much less breed.

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  34. on February 17, 2016 at 10:07 pm Anonymous

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  35. on February 17, 2016 at 10:10 pm Corvo

    Ann Coulter has a good article about Trump up at vdare.com

    http://www.vdare.com/articles/trump-is-winning-because-hes-willing-to-protect-america-unlike-the-bush-family

    “Trump is the first presidential candidate in 50 years who might conceivably: (1) deport illegal aliens, (2) build a wall, (3) block Muslim immigration, (4) flout political correctness, (5) bring manufacturing home, and (6) end the GOP’s neurotic compulsion to start wars in some godforsaken part of the world.

    Even if you think Trump is a libertine, shallow narcissist, you know he will do what no other Republican will: Go to Washington, kick ass, mock political correctness, build a wall, deport illegals, bring manufacturing home, and end the GOP’s peculiar fixation with remaking the Muslim world.

    This is our last chance. It’s similar to the “point of no return” global warming alarmists keep talking about, except our data isn’t fake.

    At our current rate of immigration/transformation, if we don’t break the donor fever grip now, we never will. This kind of correction isn’t just a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity, it’s a once-in-a-millennium opportunity.”

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    • on February 18, 2016 at 6:25 am Coldwarvet

      Read that and agree – there were several others on Drudge from the likes of Thomas Sowell and that f-tard Limbaugh all throwing the Donald under the bus for this or that imagined fault. Interesting to see the establishment shills turning toward Cruz now that the Obomination has given Trump the kiss of death. Coulter is about all that’s left, pretty sad.

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      • on February 18, 2016 at 7:12 am Greg Eliot

        I’ve maintained all along that Rush is “allowed opposition”… and Sowell? Well, what did you expect? The “good” negroes can make all the right noises they want, but at the end of the day, they’re The Other.

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  36. on February 17, 2016 at 10:53 pm Carlos Danger

    http://www.veteranstoday.com/2016/02/17/scalia-sleeps-with-the-fishes/

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  37. on February 17, 2016 at 10:57 pm Carlos Danger

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-02-17/ban-cash-coming-soon

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  38. on February 17, 2016 at 11:14 pm Carlos Danger

    Vagina Dominator can you recomend a bag for working out. I’m looking at some of the better bags that go for about $250 US on Amazon. Everlast is the likely candidate. Which brands do you recommend?

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    • on February 18, 2016 at 5:06 am Vagina dominator

      I had a 50 kg leather Steeden that I flogged the life out of for about 15 years. When I left oz I gave it to one of my brothers. No tape on it or anything. The seams didn’t split. It hung nicely from its metal attachments, which were strong.

      Apart from the fact that clearly I am a weakling, that was good value because it cost me about $100 back in the early 80s.

      This Chinese piece of vinyl and cloth shit I’ve got now you won’t believe. It was cheap I suppose, about $50 in modern play money, but what is the point, I destroyed it in a few days, seams, cloth, even the metal attachments bent and opened. The bottom of the back hangs down like a prolapse and I had to re-sew it. Maybe I am a superman now.

      So, scratch Chinese shit. I don’t think you necessarily have to get a leather bag though a good leather bag is sweet and has bounce. It doesn’t just hang there. On the other hand, if money is an issue, vinyl is fine to hit, except it scuffs your knuckles if you’re barehand. I would ask the guys at the local gym where they got theirs and if they like it.

      I am certain an Everlast bag would be top grade. And they’d guarantee it.

      Importantly, don’t get a bag that is too light for you and swings all over the place.

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      • on February 18, 2016 at 6:01 am Hugo Stiglitz

        I spent a lot of time on a heavy bag. Always wrap hands, always use at least 16 oz gloves. Rarely – if ever – hit the bag with more than 30 % of your force.

        Learn proper form a professional. If you’re hitting it correctly, it will pop up ward slightly instead of swaying. When it sways, you are “pushing” your punches.

        With as correctly thrown punch, you are stopping the strike after contact, instead of following it through.

        Use a boxing timer (3:1 min.) on your phone. Hang a clothesline, wall to wall. It should be at half ear level. Watch youtube to see how to properly utilize for dodging techniques.

        Kangaroo, and speed bags are also excellent.

        The idea is to not overuse the heavy bag

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      • on February 18, 2016 at 6:20 am carlos danger

        Thanks. I think I’ll go with the Everlast then as the price is decent and it looks well built. they are vinyl mostly. The one leather bag I saw had a massive steel frame and was about 180 cm long and was designed for kicking as well as punching.

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      • on February 18, 2016 at 1:36 pm CarpeOro

        Google makiwara board. You can make one yourself for less than many of the bags.

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  39. on February 17, 2016 at 11:42 pm Carlos Danger

    Fuck this gay mod. ROK is far better this way.

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  40. on February 18, 2016 at 5:31 am Trimegistus

    Why it’s better to get mad than to be all bitter and snarky:

    http://www.overcomingbias.com/2016/02/scared-sad-angry-bitter.html

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  41. on February 18, 2016 at 6:20 am CBR600RR_Rider

    Great way for American men to shoot high is to visit eastern or central (Poland 🙂 ) europe for a few weeks 🙂 Trust me on this one 😉

    Hot wife and 2 kids rape!

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    • on February 18, 2016 at 7:51 am carlos danger

      Yep. My w*fe looks like those idealized women with children some people post. The average there is so high, most women have no idea how beautiful they really are.

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  42. on February 18, 2016 at 10:56 am Passer by

    So basically gender equality leads to more income inequality, as wealthy men will often go for poor women, but wealthy women will not go for poor men.

    Thats quite interesting: Gender equality leads to income inequality.

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  43. on February 18, 2016 at 7:09 pm Cody Allen

    “Women LOVE LOVE LOVE clever, funny, charismatic men”

    Blacks?

    [CH: on rare occasions.]

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  44. on February 18, 2016 at 7:34 pm J1J2

    Male hypergamy, though real, is a secondary reproductive strategy, and often very secondary (see: Yoko, Linda). Unfortunately (for themselves) women have a great deal of difficulty grasping this. They can’t handle the truth.

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  45. on February 18, 2016 at 8:12 pm uatu

    I have to disagree with CH on his assertion: “One, men don’t date up based on social, economic, or occupational status. Men, if and when they are able to date up, do so based almost entirely on women’s looks. ”

    This has been refuted three times in wider social circle where high value men (definitely would be considered high value by the CH community) in their late 20’s/early 30’s ended up with women no where near as physically attractive as the track record of their prior long/short term gf’s but were more ‘elitely educated who had families with large wealth and political influence’. It was the logical choice if you want to maximize your ability to launch into positions of power & influence.

    [CH: i refute your three refutations with 100 refutations i have observed of men trading up to younger, prettier women.]

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    • on February 18, 2016 at 8:30 pm uatu

      I don’t disagree that it is more common for men to trade up to younger/prettier women, but there is a certainly a subsection of ‘high value’ men who think long-game and define their legacy in terms of power and influence and select a mating strategy that they feel will maximize this. I see it in the older millennial (late 20/early 30) set. Granted they women they have ended up with are fit (so no fatties), but these women have been a far cry from the track record of women these certain men have fucked.

      But yes, most men don’t care because they’re dream of legacy is a hot wife with lots of children vs. dreaming of becoming senator or potus.

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  46. on February 25, 2016 at 10:56 am Driver

    The hard truth that many women don’t want to hear: these women CEOs (usually 40 and up) are invisible to men at that point in their lives. Most have hit The Wall, they no longer have the advantage of having healthy kids, they are usually no longer feminine, etc, etc.. Think of your average woman as a CEO…who wants to bang her? Now, think of your average secretary or executive assistant… who wants to bang her?

    Women screwed up a lot of things that they had going for them because they were bored with their end of the bargain (being women). They wanted to go to college and have a career first (and come back to kids later on). Fast forward a couple of decades. They all have that short haircut, they all wear female pants suits and they are all bitchy as hell.

    So, they want to be men now and many of them are single, miserable and lonely because men don’t want them. Feminism has fucked women over and they should be mad…but not at men.

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