A cursory examination of the evidence, pro and con, has convinced me that global warming is happening, and that humans are partly responsible. But not nearly as responsible as shitlib alarmists like AlGore would have us believe. I don’t mean to get into the thickets of global warming science in this post (accommodation probably would be the more sensible response to GW than wholesale abandonment of fossil fuels), but the topic does pivot my thoughts to The Trumpening, and his heart&mind capture of the White working class.
I have a fondness for the hillbillies of Appalachia. Yeah, they’re poor and fat and wary of outsiders and have their vices and dysfunctions, but they’re generally good-hearted folk, and in the battle for my limited sympathies a run-down White ethnic enclave will have far more of my support than ghetto dindus or Punjab in Bombay. I’m secure enough in my masculinity to keep my loyalties close to home instead of leap-frogging all over the world.
Many “blood and soil” West Virginians work in the coal business. Their livelihoods are threatened by environmental activism. That is a fact no bloviating advocate of wind and solar power can wave away. WV voters have responded to Trump as if he was a savior come to help them in a country that is rapidly disavowing them. The reality, such as it is, of global warming, and of Trump’s popularity with the White working class means he has a rhetorical tightrope to navigate.
If AGW is real and potentially catastrophic, what message should Trump give to West Virginian coal miners? I see four possible angles Trump could take:
- Promise to return their coal mining jobs.
This would work to Trump’s benefit (as well as the benefit of WVians), and it probably won’t hurt Trump much in the general election except among the most zealous anti-AGWers. But it would mean choosing the welfare of coal miners over concerns for the long-term consequences of global warming.
- Tell them coal is a dying industry and they had better find other lines of work.
This is essentially the “screw off” option, and it’s exactly what TheCunt told them to do. It may be “true”, but only because shitlibs have arranged the political landscape to make it true. I don’t recommend this message.
- Offer government largesse to ease their transition away from employment in the coal industry.
Not very “””conservative”””, and won’t play well with the “muh Constitution” cuckwads, but it would be the sympathetic solution that avoids callously throwing the White working class under the bus. And of course there’s the risk that the government aid will be misused, as poor people are wont to do with social welfare. Plus, welfare, however well-intentioned, tends to dispirit Whites receiving it.
- Promise big infrastructure projects in alternative energy sources that will employ WVians.
Nuclear power plants come to mind, as do wind turbine farms and electric car manufacturing plants. Throw in highway construction and you’ve made a lot of former coal miners employable. Yes, this will cost taxpayer money, but the argument here is that a shared commitment to the welfare of Americans and the ease of their suffering takes precedence over “principled” tax cuts. And we might even enjoy the knock-on effects of a reduction in opioid deaths and obesity among our less privileged White brethren.
mad gay post, yo.
West Va is going S. America anyway. I drove through the hollar and consuela was there.
So, trumpening message may trump kissing coal ass.
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> “A cursory examination of the evidence, pro and con, has convinced me that global warming is happening”
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Yeh the whole CH supports Trump for Pres thing…
So CH just revealed they’re on the AGW bandwagon. They should be good alt rights and research “degrowth movement.” And read some David Horowitz, even though he’s a Jew.
Oh and apparently if you take the Constitutional conservative view on the coal miner’s job situation, you’re a cucwad idiot of sorts. So CH, aside from already supporting Trump, verifies even more so that they’re not Constitutional conservatives and apparently can’t tell the difference between them the GOPe and Trump – nor how much Trump is basically not much different from progressives in mentality and methods. He just has different goals. Everyone wants a king or savior. Nothing new.
The problem is that the leftists have messed around and such has caused problems. CH’s solution? Mess around and in one suggestion admit that might cause problems – but then still suggest we mess around. Ooook.
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This is the first CH post I’ve read in which the conclusions drawn from the data have nothing in common with observable reality.
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Also, seriously, no one likes turning Hillary’s “Her” into “Herpes” as a goof on da cunt?
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Not sure if this is referring to “coal miners” as white guys who go after black girls or blue collar workers.
Game is game though
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I think “oil driller” is more common.
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>white guys who go after black girls
Nope, that’s called ‘oil drilling’ and it’s just as disgusting as coalburning.
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Global warming is bollocks. It’s a massive tax-and-control con. In the 70s they were talking about a new ice age. There hasn’t been warming since the 1990s, a point the great Mark Steyn has made often.
Even if there were some tiny changes caused by humans, who cares? The Chinese and Indians are going to continue churning out pollution. What do you want us to do, live in caves off love and rainbow fairies?
Pretty cucked post here, CH. Support the miners.
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1) The worst polluter by far is China. If people are concerned about carbon dioxide, they should stop encouraging free trade with China with all its coal-guzzling power plants and factories.
2) There is no evidence that global warming is caused by carbon dioxide. There is evidence that global warming causes rising carbon dioxide levels — ice core data shows CO2 lagging, not leading, temperature trends — but CO2 itself is a very wimpy greenhouse gas. Mars has about three times the CO2 that Earth does and is a frozen desert.
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Our fellow yellows burn all the coal US sells them.
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1) The USA has produced a lot more CO² than China.
2) Tha CO² causes warming is basic physics (since 1857). Heat seaking missile technology had to discount CO² heat radiation just to get it to work. CO² is wimpy compared to water vapour, but it is enough to gradually move the energy balance, and incidentally, to amplify the effect through more water vapour. Ice core data show CO² lagging because ice ages are caused by (orbital) Malankovitch cycles, but these cycles are in turn amplified by CO² forcing.
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…and yet it remains that there’s been no warming since the 1990’s. Despite, as people like you would claim, an “alarming” increase in CO2 which is causing warming.
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There has been no warming since the nineties ??
The ten hottest years ever recorded have all occurred since 2000. 2014 was a record year, followed by 2015, even more of a record year. So far 2016 has spiked the three largest anomalies above the trending upward line ever.
So no, it does not remain true that there has been no warming. Quite the opposite. You may have your own opinions, but you are not entitled to your own facts.
All major temperature records in Japan, USA, and Europe show the same trend. Even the Berkely earth project setup to disprove global warming reached the same conclusion.
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http://static.berkeleyearth.org/pdf/berkeley-earth-announcement-jul-29-12.pdf
i had no dog in this hunt, but this thread’s discussion piqued my interest, since both sides seemed, to my layman’s ears, to know what they were talking about.
So I took a quick gander at the Berkeley Cliff Notes. They conclude that “most” of the warming can be attributed to CO2 produced by human endeavors:
Now, whether this is cause for alarm or not, at least to the point of how the Left would have us believe (and pay for), I cannot fathom.
But this Berkeley study seems to be about as objective as one could hope, to my untrained eyes.
I’d be interested in hearing more… although not interested enough to do extensive research on my own.
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First reply got et by mod, but I just wanted to say that the Berkeley study seems about as objective as one might hope for, at least to this layman’s eye.
Their conclusions is that “most” of the warming that has occurred over the past 250 years can be attributed to human greenhouse gas emissions, or rather, it’s the explanation that seems to make the most sense.
Now, as far as how much warming has occurred, it seems negligible (.9 C over the past 50 years), and whether it’s the cause for concern that the Left makes it out to be, I cannot discern… and since it’s not my field, I doubt I’ll spend much time doing all the research myself.
I only looked it up because both sides on this thread seemed to know what they were talking about, and hence it became a matter of curiosity.
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In the 70s they were talking about a new ice age.
Yes they were:
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It is an often repeated myth that most climate experts were predicting an ice age in the seventies. In fact there are lots of videos which show scientists warning about warming already in the fifties (Bell Labs), etc.
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“It is an often repeated myth that most climate experts were predicting an ice age in the seventies. In fact there are lots of videos which show scientists warning about warming already in the fifties (Bell Labs), etc.”
…which in no way addresses the fact that in the SEVENTIES climate scientists were shilling for global cooling.
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whether the warming is measurably true or not, there IS measurably more CO2 in the atmosphere than before.
theoretically it’s possible that more CO2 will eventually cause the atmosphere to trap more heat, but there’s no way to know how the earth will respond.. plant life may go bananas from the extra CO2 and create more oxygen as a response. oceans may absorb it. there’s no fn way to predict how such a complex system will react.
regardless, it’s a moot point. humans would have to cut their total consumption of fossil fuels by 50% or more just to maintain current levels. erm…that will never happen.
oil is, however, a finite resource, so it’s a good idea to not been through it all in the next fifty years. conservation is a legitimate effort, with measurable benefits. speculative science is not.
either way, there’s no legitimate political currency in global warming per se. none. Trump should say as much, and carry on.
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Oil is only finite if you buy onto biogenesis (aka dinosaur oil)….a Russian school of thought is the abiogenenic creation of oil. Which makes sense if you google “space.com and oil”
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It’s also a moot point `cuz the Earth frequently gets warmer than it is all by itself – done it before we were doing any of this CO2 stuff. So even if we did completely shut off all “greenhouse” gas emissions, we’d likely *still* have global warming. Better to prepare for the inevitable, IMO.
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Discussing “conservation” inside a society who is built on perpetual exponential growth is silly. You’re just juggling WHEN it collapses. Never fear, however, nature will take care of the problem…quite efficiently.
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All of these issues have been studied. There are thousands of people who have delved into this stuff, and you think you can discredit it in 5 seconds. The fact that warming is now inevitable simply means that we can still choose between far-reaching adaption or total annihilation.
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The fact that “warming is now inevitable” is discredited by the recent total lack of warming.
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Exactly correct – I always point that out to the younger kids that they tried the same thing in the 70’s about the impending Ice Age – now it’s Global-Warming – and since that has been discredited – they talk about Climate Change. Well, the climate has been changing for 4.5 billion years without humans and will continue to do so. It’s all a sham by the ruling class to tax people to death. The more that die – the better – of course they will have newspapers say how it was with the best of intentions…
Want to talk renewable energy – look at Liquid Fluoride Thorium Reactors – they burn down to inert material, and there is enough for practically limitless energy. Well, using out explosive growth of energy use, enough for the next 100+ thousand years. More than long enough to work out the bugs on Fusion reactors. That is true renewable energy that we have already had – it makes 3x as much as it “burns”… And we had them working from the mid-60’s till early 70’s at Oak-Ridge when Carter shut them down. I always thought he would go down in history as the worst President – never figured on Obama-idiot…. At the moment China is developing them using our plans – and improving on them.
Anyway… All of the crap they spout about “renewable” energy is a pipe-dream. The only thing that works must be able to produce power 24/7/365 – and that leaves fossil fuels till we get someone with a brain in office… Not the pansies in there now…
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Yeah let’s not profile, Jews.
Realtalk: if you see three niggers like this in a mall, they have a gun.
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http://miami.cbslocal.com/2016/05/10/police-release-picture-of-alleged-merrick-park-robber/
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[…] How Should Trump Help The Coal Miners Of West Virginia? […]
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My mom’s dad was a West VA coal miner.
Keep wailing, Jews. https://www.yahoo.com/news/jon-stewart-trump-man-baby-131631856.html
lolzozozoz
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Cucked post, CH. Global warming is bullshit. See mark steyn. China and India are churning out coal anyway. Support the miners.
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Who stole heartiste’s account?
Global warming is a farce. Climategate and the many scandals afterwards showing that crooked scientists have doctored temperature records and models in order to enrich themselves with gov grants and tenure.
Plus, one thing that the press refuses to mention is that coal is getting hammered by low natural gas prices. Otherwise they would have to say nice things about fracking. Sadly, even without bogus environmental legislation, w va coal miners are in trouble.
I really hope that this is some kind of joke
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Climategate has been shown over and over to be a couple of phrases taken out of context and does not prove any kind of doctoring. All the data is out in public view, including any adjustments to the data and why. The raw data does not show a different trend than does the adjusted data. Dig a little deeper.
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All of the data is out in the public view. All of the conclusions, drawn from the data by warmists, has been discredited. Repeatedly. For over a decade.
The only people who still think that the Earth is warming, nevermind WHY it’s warming, after years of no-warming, are those who are invested in this nonsense religiously.
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Discredited by journalists and idealogues and think tanks funded by oil companies. Not discredited by scientists that know what they are talking about, publish in scientific journals, and argue about mistakes and differences. Otherwise you may as well say that science is actually wrong about how far Jupiter is from the earth because you can sometimes see it in the night sky, and everybody knows you can’t see a million miles.
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How would YOU know about the data? The AGW crowd has refused to release their data. There are over 25,000 true scientists who disagree with the AGW TEORY!
Do you even know that AGW is just a computer modeled THEORY and not a demonstrable fact? And as a predictive tool when applied to known historic data can’t even be shown to “predict” what is already recorded as historical fact?
AGW is politically-based hogwash!!!
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Sorry, did you just claim that the “journalists and idealogues and think tanks” are all on the side opposed to the theory of manmade accelerated global warming?
SCIENTISTS are still debating the theory. The politicians, the journalists, the “idealogues and think tanks” are all universally in support of global warming.
If I’m following your argument, then everyone who disagrees with you is discredited (and probably being paid by Big Oil!).
SCIENTISTS have not reached a consensus on global warming, and it would be irrelevant whether they did or did not. SCIENCE doesn’t care about consensus. Only the politicians and the journalists (and the idealogues and the think tanks) care about the “consensus”, which they all agree on. The SCIENTISTS are still conducting research and debating things, like why the Arctic hasn’t melted away like the models predicted, or why the Antarctic has more ice than its supposed to, or (and this one’s kinda important) whether CO2 levels and warming taking us all the way back up to where the world was during Roman times would be a bad thing at all.
Your consensus means nothing. SCIENCE requires debate.
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Taking firm positions on divisive issues like this one are as likely to lose Trump as many votes as gains him. He should just stick to his core issues (gun control, immigration, protectionism, killing obamacare and common core) and be evasive on regional issues. almost every problem would be improved, if not fixed, if we had a real country again with a well-paid, motivated work force.
He might even do well to say as much: “Hey, this is a very important issue. Right now we need to focus on the bigger picture of securing our borders so that ALL of us can be more prosperous and rebuild EVERY region of the country. All of these problems stem from the elites bleeding this country by sending jobs overseas and leaving our borders wide open. Let’s make America Great Again”,… etc.
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excuse me, not “gun control”, gun rights
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Agreed.
It’s probably true that coal’s time has come and gone – it does nothing to improve the atmosphere and leaves nasty scars on the land, regardless of whether or not it contributes to global warming – but Trump should definitely NOT do what all other political candidates in history have always done and promise absolutely everyone a different moon.
Stick to the core issues – GET RID OF POLITICAL CORRECTNESS !!!!!!! – and the rest will fix itself.
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…A cursory examination of the evidence, pro and con, has convinced me that global warming is happening, and that humans are partly responsible…
Did CH bring on a new contributor? Outside of the posts in the past that advocated anal, aka ‘fag’ sex between men and women, this is the gayest thing I’ve ever read here.
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Yeah it’s as if Strapon in Goldberg hacked the account.
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CH,
The global warming pause and the huge increase in atmospheric CO2 content from Chinese coal fired power plants put lie to the theory of human caused global warming.
Be that as it may — in terms of agreement with that AGW premise or not — the real issue with coal fired plants is they cannot compete economically with natural gas fired electrical plants due to reasons of heat to electrical energy efficiency and disposal of solid coal ash wastes in EPA approved ways.
A coal fired power plants is 35% efficient in turning coal heat to electricity and leaves a lot of nasty solid wastes to be disposed of. (For example — There is no way the EPA will let train cars of sulfur and heavy metals laden coal ash cross California’s Central Valley simply due to the wind born ash clouds trains gnerate.)
Natural gas powered combined cycle gas turbine power plant gets between 50% and 60% efficiency in turning heat to electricity with no solid waste products.
To save coal as a viable energy source, the real answer is to push Magnetohydrodynamic (MHD) generator technology through the Department of Energy.
See:
JOURNAL OF PROPULSION AND POWER Vol. 20, No. 3, May–June 2004
Advanced Coal Power Cycle with a Stand-Alone Magnetohydrodynamic Generator
arc.aiaa.org/doi/pdf/10.2514/1.3330
MHD generators of all sorts have the potential to reach 50% – 60% efficiency. The higher efficiency is due to recycling the energy from the hot plasma gas to standard steam turbines. After the plasma gas passes through the MHD generator, it is still hot enough to boil water to drive steam turbines that produce additional power.
Coal with high sulfur content that is burned at plasma temperatures can be used in the MHD without polluting the atmosphere. As electrical separation of plasma elements can deliver pure elements for later resale.
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CH,
Trump sales line for the above —
We are developing MHD technology to sell MHD generators and coal to China.
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Good analysis, but I have one objection. You have failed to account for the very large cost differential between coal as a fuel (cheaper) and natural gas as a fuel (more expensive). Further, that disparity will increase as right now natural gas is at a 15-year low in wholesale costs, but that WILL not remain the case as more and more is used to drive electric generation.
Production is going down because of costs being through the floor, demand is increasing due to power plants utilizing gas for generation, and we are never going to see gas prices this low again.
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“…A cursory examination of the evidence, pro and con, has convinced me that global warming is happening, and that humans are partly responsible…”
I’m surprised that CH says that …
From what I have read, and I have read hundreds of documents on the topic along the years
– there is no abnormal warming, the planet has always had radical changes of temperatures, there was even a mini ice age a few centuries ago…at some time in the past there were palm trees in the south pole because the earth rotated at a different angle then, thus the pole received more sunlight and more heat than it does today.
– the temperature began climbing before humans began doing activities that could influence temperature or climate ( the temperature began climbing a little over 100 years ago )
– human activity is such a small factor it is pretty negligible
– many so called global warming experts have been caught red handed lying about the temperature rise. Fraud in this field is common, has anyone heard of Climategate? those people in charge of the IPCC were caught sending each other emails where they warned each other to ” hide any decline in temperature!!!” and discussed regularly how to doctor the numbers to have everyone believe the planet has a fever….they are not the only ones, new evidence of doctoring and cheating is found every month.
– The simple fact the left has embraced global warming is in itself reason to doubt…the left uses the fear of global warming to make the USA weaker, to slow down capitalism, to make developing nations stronger by making us send our money to them while we reduce our economic output and pay penalties. Global warming is not only used by anti-white liberals ( and colored) to make the USA weak and redirect money, but it is used as an anti-white weapon. Only white nations are forced to pay for their sin of being productive, while developing nations – where people are not white – get a pass.
I could go on all day
Obama said he would destroy the coal industry in the USA ( he did not use the word destroy of course ) and he did, yet the planet uses more coal every year. China builds new coal burning plants to produce electricity pretty much every month or every week ( can’t remember, I read so many things in a day )
Obama is an anti-USA , anti-Capitalism, anti-white a** hole, he used the fear of global warming as a justification to destroy the coal industry.
The whole global warming thing is a gigantic fraud, the biggest fraud in human history since it involves making the West pay trillions of dollars for its “sins”.
One last thing Co2 is not killing the planet ( nor warming it) Co2 is plant food, the more co2 we produce the faster plants, tress grow and the fuller they grow, and as we know trees help cool down the planet
thus,
more co2 = more trees
more trees = more cooling effect
more cooling effect = less global warming
Also it was confirmed about a week ago that there is now more vegetation/trees on the planet than there was before…
I’m telling you, this whole global warming thing is the biggest fraud in human history.
I have links to everything, but I would have to post dozens if not hundreds of links.
[CH: i shouldn’t have used the word “convinced”. “leaning” would have been more accurate gauge of my opinion of AGW claims.]
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Nicely done.
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Thank you, Sir.
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“were caught sending each other emails where they warned each other to ” hide any decline in temperature!!”
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The tree ring proxy data (Brifa data) didn’t conform to the hockey stick.
Interesting that the data that disagreed with their consensus happened to be data that can’t be fudged.
They couldn’t just lie because any science peer can cut down some old growth timber and replicate the Briffa results. (Whereas a peer CAN’T get in a time machine and go to a certain time and place and compare the temperature with what someone has down in a journal as ‘real temp’ data.)
So instead they had to cook the numbers a bit and that’s what Mike’s ‘nature trick’ was all about.
But since Climategate, this has been exposed so they now have to come up with another explanation for why the Briffa data trends down instead of up.
The answer is so called ‘global dimming’.
The idea that OTHER kinds of polution have been cutting off enough sunlight (since the 60’s) as to reduce photosynthesis to levels that make tree rings grow slow in spite of rising temperature.
Thus ‘mimicking’ the effect of increased cooling.
In other words human activity is causing global warming and here’s hockey stick to prove it.
BUT if any data doesn’t agree with the hockey stick it’s the fault of……
…..wait for it…..
…….it’s ALSO the fault of human activity!
Yeah, right.
That’s NOT how real scientists roll.
But we all know a group of folks who roll exactly like that don’t we?
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The overwhelming import of the global warming/climate change debate is not scientific but political. “Science” is dwarfed, trivialized and manipulated by the transnational socialist elites desire for world government and redistribution of resources, directed by themselves. All other considerations pale in comparison to this imminent threat to freedom and sovereignty.
That said, there are pollution issues associated with fossil fuels that are much more serious than climate change. Witness the smog in LA or Beijing. Hundreds of thousands of people, maybe millions worldwide, sicken and die every year because of carbon-based particulates.
Ultimately, we DO want to transition away from fossil fuels. However, it must be done in a way that increases the energy supply rather than restricts it. The best way to accomplish this is through nuclear power, supplemented by hydro electric and geo-thermal. This of, course, is anathema to the Left, which wants to restrict access to energy as a means of social control.
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Do a little more homework. When the south pole had palms there were no human beings. Some of the hothouses in the past due to natural events were “natually” accompanied by the extinction of 95% of all living species. To you fail to look into a homicide because lots of people die due to natural causes?
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I’m glad to see that many people are well aware of the scam that global warming is, and some of you explain it well, you are articulated.
as for webej…well…you still have a lot to learn…
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Coal is a competitive energy source if we abandon this global warming hysteria.
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I grew up in Appalachia. NE Pa. Coal mining (and of course coke, steel, etc.) made NE Pa. one of the most prosperous places on earth for a spell. Don’t believe me, go look at the courthouses in Scranton and especially Wilkes Barre. Also, great hunting, fishing and lots of fine ass farm girls out in those country hills. (Well, years ago, anyway. times have changed.) When I went away to college, the Philly and NY guys were highly enamored with the 5 or 6 babes from my HS that were not even the best ones. Thin, pretty girls with tight bodies, long hair and genuine smiles. I miss that place. I miss those days.
http://www.wikiwand.com/en/Luzerne_County,_Pennsylvania
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I know that area well and have been to WB and Scranton numerous times. It is sad to see what happened to it.
There’s one town in that area that was overrun by illegal Dominicans and now it’s teeming with drugs and crime.
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Yes, it’s been a depressed area for a long time, but it’s incredibly sad what decades of corruption and bad policy will do, in addition to the basic economic factors and just changes in the type and number of jobs. I was in Scranton in 2014 and I don’t want to go back.
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“If AGW is real and potentially catastrophic, what message should Trump give to West Virginian coal miners?”
I doubt I am the only one who stopped reading at this point. I hope you didn’t have anything interesting to say after that sentence.
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Did a double take and thought “What fag has heartiste let into his account?”
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Coal certainly pollutes, and pollution lowers quality of life per se, even before it approaches a level that may or may not influence climate.
The difficulty of determining for certain whether human activity causes or contributes to what ever it may or may not be causing or contributing to is that it does not seem to be a testable hypothesis. Geological changes take place at geological rates, which are far too slow for any generation or few generations of humans to identify as a trend. Those convinced that global warming is both taking place and caused by humans say that we cannot take a chance and have to do something now. However, I think the best thing we can do is seek to limit pollution for quality of life reasons, rather than a certainty that in doing so we are reversing what we may or may not have done, even if it is reversible.
It’s worth considering that we have different seasons because the earth orbits around the sun while spinning on an angled axis. The solar system itself also orbits around other galactic bodies at an angled axis, while those galactic bodies themselves orbit larger galactic bodies at angled axes. In other words, global warming may just be a change of a galactic season that is too slow to perceive.
My two cents worth: perhaps Mr. Trump’s message should be to put coal miners back to work while investing in pollution-reducing technology. The government has subsidized and promoted the solar industry; it can do the same with clean coal. Perhaps a tariff on imported products produced in pollution-spewing factories might be a start.
In any event, I think TheCunt is going to have her ass handed to her in the primary today…
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I wonder if this’ll make it through the filter. (Virtually nothing else has lately.)
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“Yeah, they’re poor and fat and wary of outsiders and have their vices and dysfunctions, but they’re generally good-hearted folk”
Send them Over Here. These are my people, right down to the 16″ seam (and I’m not talking cankle-girth). If the Wretched of the Earth reckon they fancy the freezing peat-moors and gloomy ice-rimed coasts of my country are for the taking .. well, fair go. Yeh you won hands down guys, melanic master race, allawackbar and all that .. bye.
At least we know one end of a boat from the other, and aren’t afraid of the dark. We can swap.
I bagsy Kenya, Morocco and the Golan Heights for our lot, as we like to keep our hand in at the fighting game, the Welsh can have South Africa, or Argentina. The refugees/evictees can have the limitless riches of our homelands, and the English for neighbours.
Or stay and fight. Which is where the Palachians and Ginians come in. If we could get the Boers in on the team as well, and prevent well-meaning fools constantly disarming us, I reckon we could inflict intense peace and productivity on Africa and the Middle East within a few generations.
Mainly because the immigridiots would be too busy claiming dole and Eurosubsidies, and casting peats and netting herring for the Winter, back on the Magic Dirt. Brrrr.
C’mon guys, it’s a race between us and the Chinee. Even Putin is offering like a football pitch’s worth of Far Siberia to all-comers, for 5 years, if they’ll sit tight against the Celestial Hordes.
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‘Tis a blessed plot, innit ?
We shall freeze them on the beaches….
Of all the reasons people from Syria, Iraq, Nigeria or Somalia might have to want to live in Sweden, Denmark, Germany or the UK, the lovely weather certainly isn’t one of them.
Wonder how many of them have developed S.A.D. by now or offed themselves after not seeing the sun for 3 solid months.
Morocco could be very nice – at least the coastal areas – without all the Moroccans. Camels are somewhat cranky, but ok if you don’t beat them all the time like they do.
And contrary to the existing local population, we could probably come up with ways to combat all those nasty diseases that make sub-Saharan Africa such a hellhole.
I would LOVE being Tarzan! Seriously.
Especially if Jane looks like she does in the old Hal Foster comic strips.
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Not a big fan of hillbillies, but they’re better than the SWPLs, yuppies, soccer moms, and assorted characters of urban/suburban America.
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Hillbillies haven’t had good leadership since the War. Back in ’63. 1863.
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The liberal New World Order — which is part oligarchical billionaire, part
progressive thinker, and part media apparatus — would probably frown upon
any rescue attempt of West Virginia, simply because “stupid white people”
have been image-slurred into insignificance, and to lend a helping hand now
would undercut the dominant meta-image.
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But you see, we are changing things. Things are changing. Dig? There will be no more slander of good white people here in our white nation.
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Milankovitch cycles
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My only contention with fossil industries is that the resources are finite, and they will be gone or out of reach long before a climate-related armageddon wipes us out.
Imagine that oil could well be worth 1000$/bl in today’s money in 20 or 50 years (even with the low price circus going on). I’m long on solar and electric cars, but I’m not sure if it’s out of clarity or despair.
I tend to lean towards the dark-enlightened wisdom of the commentariat, agw is libtard horseshit.
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They aren’t as finite as you’d believe. Significant evidence exists that most of it is actually from non-biological sources way deeper in the Earth than we can get to.
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Heartiste, great question. Trump’s energy policy is severely lacking.
There is a relatively simple solution to the W.V. situation. Clean, abundant, American natural gas. Fuck the middle east; make America great again.
-The whole state of W.V. sits right on top of the Marcellus shale formation.
-Extraction technologies are beyond mature (i.e., hydraulic fracturing or horizontal drilling). No debate there (except in Matt Damon’s echochamber).
-Provides W.V.’ians a situation to receive substantial American wealth in return for the production of American energy. Nothing more “national security” than that.
In south central Alaska, they tap into the coal beds for ultra-pure methane. The Dakotas, Wyoming, Colorado, Pennsylvania, also harness their own underground resources.
Trump could run his entire campaign on this idea. Clean American energy, by Americans, for Americans. W.V. could be a shining example for the new American society.
Those are a couple starting points. Get in touch for more.
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Trump could be the savior of Alaska, and perhaps the west coast of the US if he can help Walker with his LNG Pipeline, currently stalled.
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aufeis, absolutely.
The state is going to have to deal with their recession first, and have their own house in order, before the shovels appear. B.C., Washington, and Oregon are also establishing import/export terminals for the vast arctic LNG resources coming online in the next few decades. Plus the polar route is being conquered by modern vessel design.
Up in AK, the man camps are going to run 10,000+ strong. It’ll be the biggest public works project in current times. 800-odd miles of 48 inch pipe. Savior as a descriptor for Trump is almost an understatement.
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the left is about one thing; stealing from the productive. and agw is an excuse to steal more. they don’t give 2 shits about the future or they wouldn’t be tax enslaving the yet unborn with catastrophic debt for today’s consumption. fuck their premises. I also don’t give a shit if the planet is one degree
warmermore comfortable in the future. besides, if anyone was actually serious about it, it would be the unproductive that need to go. looking at you trigglypuff.LikeLiked by 3 people
“It is very difficult to make a man understand something when his salary depends on not understanding it.” GW is real, AGW is real but it’s effect overstated.
Environmentalism is an issue that needs to be recaptured by the right.
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You bet its real. I mean, when I woke up this morning it was 54º and already it’s 60º!!!!
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Speaking of Trump helping folks, Trump’s “Snake Lyrics” are helping the Brexit campaign.
The reaction from the EU snake oil salesmen is all you could hope for WRT drawing attention to the ad.
See:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3583408/Leave-EU-Brexit-campaign-slammed-sharing-ugly-xenophobic-video-using-Donald-Trump-speech-violent-images-make-disgusting-warning-migrants.html
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I think global warming is also happening. I don’t care about bear or anything. There is no way in which millions of gases that are turning our atmosphere into a Venusian one aren’t warming the Earth while cutting the forests. This matters, NOT, this would matter if whites were the only people on Earth but when factories close in USA and Europe the pollution doesn’t disappear is transferred to china along with the removed jobs and all kinds of trade rape privileges for the Chinoes.
Chinoes haven’t a economy policy in the way we have… Their economy is a tool for their nationalistic aspirations, fuck trade balances is their form of mercantilism.
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Apologize for the firsts sentences. Terrible structure and lack of words .
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As long as China pumps as much poison into the atmosphere as they do now and every Indian wants a car, any environmental efforts by the west are a drop in the bucket.
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Yes, maybe the global warming hippies think that there are some sky borders keeping the gases in Chiba lolz
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CHINA FUCK GOOGLE PROOFREAD. What the fuck is Chiba?? Lolozlzol
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There are not a lot of good options for coal miners. Even removing Global Warming from the equation, it’s a dying industry. I think the only real hail Mary pass that Trump has to throw to them is a promise to fund and research clean coal. So far, the research done hasn’t really lead to affordable alternatives to use coal, but who knows, it’s worth researching.
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CH is an energy source.
Really got you guys going with this one.
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I recommend more than a cursory examination, CH. The (heart signs) SCIENCE just doesn’t add up.
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Don’t we have a fucking giant-ass wall that needs to be built? Offer transportation and housing for West Virginians to help Make America White Again!
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Option 1 all the way. Promise the coal miners more work and deliver on that promise.
Save the White race and Western Civilization first; deal with climate change (if at all) after that.
Saving the Earth so that a bunch of third worlder ingrates can wreck it in their own way is cuckish on a planetary scale.
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The problem is we don’t need highways or power plants in WV. We could build our next generation fighter plane there though, whatever that plane ends up being after Trump scraps the F35. All sorts of manufacturing could go there after the tariffs go up.
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Perfect ending to a great television series:
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Yes there is global warming, then global cooling. It goes in cycles which of course become more imbalanced over time, because earth will not be around forever and who knows how long the universe will be around?? But for me, this isn’t my problem because none of us will be around to see the end, if natural processes continue.
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I’d take a look at German technology that used coal for more than just burning.
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“If AGW is real and potentially catastrophic, what message should Trump give to West Virginian coal miners? ”
If the moon is made of green cheese, what sort of mousetraps do we need in space? Your lead-in is simply silly, so any answer which addresses it will simply be silly.
The thorium in coal has more energy than the hydrocarbons. Liquid metal thorium reactors could turn that thorium into electricity, and their waste heat is about right to drive the Fischer-Tropf process to make the coal into diesel – after we have removed thenthorium to fuel the reactor.
We still need the coal, we still need the miners, but we get nearly free electricity and cheap clean diesel. We get energy independence with 1960’s era technology, we get to shut off the money spigot to the jihadis, and we get less polution, to boot! That’s what Trump should tell the miners, and eco-nazi fantasies don’t change the message.
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Haha, mistimed April fools? Shark jumping?
Sad if this post in earnest.
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‘Dear God Honey, first they invite us to the Chateau for a vegetarian dinner, and now we see the Prius parked out front, let’s go.’
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CH – I think there’s another option you failed to consider, what I would call “a natural death” option. Coal is suddenly in trouble because Osama ordered the near immediate shutdown of coal fired power plants. If you simply drag out those regulations over another say 20 years then the plants will eventually hit end of serviceable life, they go away, and better options will likely be available. A reasonable transition time would give the market, and WVA economy, time to adapt. But instead we’re shuttering valuable assets prematurely and putting WVA out of business almost overnight with no Plan B. Fact is that China and India are the worst offenders and soon it won’t matter what we do anyway.
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Global Whorming is a hoax.
You have an unstable computer model you can make it unstable to anything your heart desires. ANYTHING!
GW is a hoax, and I’ve seen nothing since I graduated with a college Physics degree decades ago to change my mind.
Trust this striver beta on this one. GW is hoax.
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AGW is fake. But even if it were, then China and India will be pumping even more and more CO2. So let the miners mine, it makes no difference.
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trust this morbidly obese beta physicist on this one.
GW Is hoax.
Unstable model can be made unstable to ANYTHING.
This guys do not know what they speak of; their claim they do exposes them as liars.
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Look up “John Martin” and his iron experiments. CO2 can be reduced in the atmosphere on the cheap but fat bastard Al Bore wants to control the energy sector instead of actually solving the apparent problem.
Natural gas and nuclear reactors are the way to go.
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Oh vey, can’t you InternetNazi’s spot a Jewish Conspiracy when you see one? What’s the point of sending oven pics if you STILL fall prey to us? The beauty of modern anti-Semitism is that hopefully you should be REALLY critical when you see any anti-White globalist scheme with a bunch of leftist secular Jews behind it. AGW has Jew Scheme all over it, Stupid Goy. Total. Complete. BS. Will someone please break out the merchant happy hand gifs?
Obviously CO2 does change the re-radiation IR spectrum of the Earth (it technically is absorbing heat), but there are so many variables in climate that to conclude a causative relationship is hopelessly beyond the capabilities of modern science. There could be particulate matter, weather, solar trends, hidden feedbacks, etc. For all we know, the Earth is COOLING due to particulates or weak solar cycles or shifting atmospheric patterns.
This is why mechanical engineers, like Bill Nye, are suckers for AGW (they think in terms of simplistic systems, not the weirdness of climate science where cosmic rays could be even playing a role).
And Cooling would be really, really bad for humanity. So, adding a degree or two, worst case, is no biggie. The lack of warming in the temperature data is really SCARY because it suggests that there are hidden cooling factors at work. Any guess what’s COOLING the Earth?
The agenda of globalists with this scam is so plain and obvious that any self-respecting TwitterNazi should see right through it. By attacking the White heartland of Appalachia, the AGW EVIL scheme has made its intention very clear. If you are unsure of the scientific data, ask yourself “If psychotic Leftists are behind it, how could it be true?”
Watch the lack of empathy and gleeful sadism in the minion of Satan’s eyes
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If we change the question into one without the distraction of the truthiness of AGW, the answer gets slightly easier. I mean, a lot of blue collar jobs have been disappeared by macro-economic forces which are not controversial, much less mysterious. For example, Toyoto learns how to make high value small cars –> redundancy in old dumb factories in the American midwest. So, what would we, or DT, have offered the losers in that scenario?
It is the same question, except for the murk of climate change controversey.
In 19th century America, many laws and customs gave employment advantages to adult men with families to support – over anyone without families to support.
I said that the answer is “slightly” easier. I know too many good people my age who got caught in an undertow not of their own making. I know how much luck has been my friend is these matters. The one thing I am sure of, never show dis-respect to good people.
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“In 19th century America, many laws and customs gave employment advantages to adult men with families to support – over anyone without families to support.”
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Quite possibly the factual origins of the pay gap myth that has long since sprouted wings and can’t be shot down.
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Macroeconomic (((forces)))
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I never understand the alt-right knee jerk rejection of climate change. CH, you’re right.
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The entire universe is run by invisible pink unicorns.
Don’t kneejerk reject that just because I don’t provide any evidence.
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Cuz it ain’t so knee jerk.
The truth is out there for anyone with a little common sense who’s patient enough to sacrifice even just a few hours of his precious life researching the problem.
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Trump doesn’t actually care about any prole White individual. He’s just making a show of pretending to care in order to get their votes. I’d rather respect somebody who is honest about not giving a f*** about prole Whites than someone who uses prole Whites then throws them away.
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And you know this how, Jackie Robinson? Be thou cuck or negro?
Trump employees seem to invariably speak highly of him, so maybe he does care.
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The next girl who tells Hartiste she’s pregnant will get him to put on a ring. He’ll believe her since, after all, she is looking pretty fat, and his cursory look at the facts must make him support the SJW framing.
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so (you) don’t understand the bogus science of GWH or the anti-white policy of GWH.
my own beef long before redpill and altright was with people who obviously don’t know their science (where are the predictions made in 1995/2000/2005 about the climate in 2010/2015/2020?).
The alt-right view brings up the genocide-side of the GWH into light, tho. Why does that bother you, schlomo?
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Texas. By God, Texas. For a few days in December, 2015 wind power made above 40% of the entire electrical power generation needed for the entire, very massive, Texas power grid.
This was put together without a trace of stone-aged-weather-worship- and knowledge.
Fact:::: Wind power is exploding. Solar power will very soon be exploding… Fracted gas is already in place to conquer the world.
Texas.
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The problem is that the coal mining jobs have mostly shut down due to automation and mountain top removal. They just don’t need many miners anymore.
Also, the mercury emissions regulations have cut down mining a lot. There is no doubt that mercury is a bad thing and poisons fish.
Don’t give up on environmentalism. Clean air and land is necessary to the European way of life. If you think about it for a second its obvious that population control is needed for a clean en
There is lots of infrastructure we need. This is country is way behind on roads, bridges, water infrastructure, etc. I am sure there are ways to do that that helps my fellow scotch irish. If they did’t have illegal labor competition they would dominate those jobs. Really, once you you get rid of the 11+ million illegals there is going to huge demand for those guys everywhere. The rest of us are going to have to pay more for house redos and other construction. But it’ll be worth it.
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Fact: The State of Texas went to extreme lengths to retain full control of its power grid. OK, Fine: In the USA, there is the eastern grid, the western grid, and the TEXAS grid.
That explains …. a lot of things.
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Actually, NY has its own grid as well. So does California, and those are both the worst shitholes in the country politically.
There are a lot more than just eastern and western… the grid is divided into RTOs and ISOs. Here, check this out:
http://www.eia.gov/todayinenergy/detail.cfm?id=790
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M O Mystery
Not to go too far into wonkery, but there is a crucial distinction. Texas has been careful over the years to maintain regulatory independence regarding its power grid. No federal regulations apply here because power transmission does not cross any state lines (at least beyond the relevant thresholds for triggering federal intervention).
When the legislature here decided to act, it was all sorted out in a matter of weeks. 7 billion USDs was voted to building out the grid, an agency was created with plenipotentiary powers to control power generation, and a deregulated free market for selling the power generated was created. All of this happened without the requirement to negotiate – or beg – or even explain these evolutions to other states or the Federal Government.
In Texas, there is a deep memory of harm that can be done by the cluelessness of Washington.
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I’m certainly not trying to call you out, but you are referring to ERCOT, the Electricity Reliability Council of Texas. ERCOT is an ISO that is confined to one state, exactly like New York ISO (NYISO). In all states, deregulation is a state-level law that each state can determine individually.
The grid operators are defined geographically and are ALL under the guidance of FERC, the Federal Energy Regulatory Commission. Some of them are single-state, some are multi-state, some are Independent System Operators (ISO) like ERCOT, and some are Regional Transmission Operators (RTOs) like PJM Interconnection.
My point is that federal regulations apply to both ERCOT and NYISO and any other independent grid operators as their oversight is by FERC. Texas is very independent, but they are still a US State. Power crossing state lines doesn’t really have much to do with it.
http://www.ferc.gov/market-oversight/mkt-electric/spp.asp
The Southwest Power Pool cuts through North Texas & New Mexico as well as OK and the states north of it. That part of Texas’s grid is multi-state.
Again, not trying to be a dickwad or anything, I just do this for a living.
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This is confusing to me. I live in Texas and have heard for years that ERCOT has been able to avoid Federal regulations. Indeed, that has been presented as the main reason that there are minimal connections with other states. I mean, when Texas needs extra electrons, we go to the trouble of getting them from Mexico – and not from other US states. Which would make no sense if we were already caught in the web of toxic federal regulations.
Developing wind energy in Texas was never controversial. No one was ever against it. Because the system makes sure that all stake-holders get paid.
Say, you own a 50,000 acre ranch in the middle of nowhere. Some folks come along and offer you 5-10 USDs a year for each turbine that they want to erect on top of a mesa out of sight (and out of sound) from your house.
Duh – uh.
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Electric cars are coal powered cars. Liberals should love coal.
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Don’t you love that? Electric cars, recharged by a grid powered by coal, natural gas and oil. The transmission line-losses of “fossil” generated electricity used to recharge an electric car render that car 1/3-1/2 less efficient (depending on the fossil fuel) than a gasoline-powered car that gets 30MPG. That’s a Department of Energy-generated stat from an article in a Subaru trade journal that explores whether electric cars should be sold anywhere that isn’t served by nuclear or solar power. Subaru has an ax to grind, not selling electric cars obviously, but I believe the stat. What’s the point of charging an electric car on carbon?
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The disgusting pollutants don’t follow the car around, to be breathed in by nearby pedestrians, if the car “outsources” its pollution to the plant that generates the electricity used to run it.
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Does your soda pop can fizz more when it is cold or when it is warm? The ocean holds more co2 when it is cold … Like your soda pop.
The world started warming in the late 1800s long before man could have an influence.
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If global warming was real the sjws wouldn’t want the unlimited immigrants in an advanced civilization creating more co2 than they would be at home in their 3rd world countries/ qed
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The problem with going green isn’t so much that people couldn’t comfortably live like that (e.g. solar/wind powered homes w battery backup and electric car in garage hooked up to charger, and etc.).
It’s that INDUSTRY’s energy needs (and by extension the economy’s) far outstrip the individual.
There’s simply no way that renewables could satisfy the energy needs of industry.
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So gay.
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Burn the coal. Or better yet, do NOT burn the coal, turn it into plastics and asphalt and fertilizers, just like we do oil. Or, sell it to India and China to replace their shitty, sulfur-ridden coal. The entire argument is nutty. If green develops, fine. But we aren’t giving up the modern, fossil-fuel powered and nourished world. It isn’t fossil-fuel anyway, it’s abiotic petroleum and carbon. No one put dinosaurs 25,000 feet below the surface of the earth for Chrissakes.
Fracking and coal are our way out of our deficits, energy problems and the Middle East. Use it. At least the service workers in this shitty economy can afford gasoline for their cars AND cheaper food.
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The technically correct and also politically best answer is to make West Virginia the focus of a massive liquid fuel thorium reactor (LFTR) nuclear power program.
+ LFTRs physically cannot have a runaway meltdown (dump the hot liquid into a puddle to cool and the reaction stops), so the enviro whackjobs only have their religious objections to rely on and Trump can make hay out of exposing and mocking them.
+ Coal is in some ways just rich thorium ore. Thorium is already a radioactive waste byproduct of coal, so no retraining is needed for the existing WV workers, demand for their product just goes WAY up.
+ Instead of burning the coal and playing to the AGW fear, you divert a small percentage of the LFTR nuclear power to run the Fischer-Tropsch process and make the coal into gasoline & diesel. Easy to do enough of this to completely eliminate oil imports. Trump will piss off Islamics, abandon NATO & cut the military spending? If we don’t need oil, all those become positives, not negatives.
+Fischer-Tropsch was invented in Germany & sustained the Nazi war machine. It works. But it allows Trump to savagely mock opponents of this plan while agreeing & amplifying the Trump is Hitler meme. “Yes, my plan depends on using Nazi invented technology. Just like you do when you drive interstate highways. Ever hear of the autobahn?”
+The NIMBY factor for constructing nuclear power is probably lower in WV than anywhere else, especially if it’ll keep the coal industry going too.
TLDR: a massive program to build LFTR nuclear plants and Fischer-Tropsch coal to diesel converters in WV saves the coal miners, creates a lot of construction and power jobs, eliminates US oil dependence, pays for itself a hundred fold in military savings, and truly would make America great again for about 4 generations until the coal & thorium ran low. This isn’t just Trump’s ticket to the White House, it’s his ticket onto Mount Rushmore.
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You said it better than I did. This is good for the nation, and good for the coal miners.
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I could make a lot of scientific arguments against Global Warmism, but the most likely to persuade are the ad hominem. If Global Warming is happening, why are the Global Warmists continually committing Climate Fraud by changing the historical data colder and modern data warmer, and erasing long lived ice, as is demonstrably happening, shown by blink comparators between what they published a few years ago, and now? (And why should you believe any of their data once you see this?)
https://stevengoddard.wordpress.com/2015/09/17/noaa-massively-ramps-up-their-temperature-fraud-ahead-of-paris/
https://stevengoddard.wordpress.com/2016/04/23/nsidc-busted/?fb_action_ids=10207586425031055&fb_action_types=og.shares
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Why do you continually moderate my posts? They are always on topic and well reasoned. Testing (to see if it goes through without any link.)
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Lets try with one link.
I could make a lot of scientific arguments against Global Warmism, but the most likely to persuade are the ad hominem. If Global Warming is happening, why are the Global Warmists continually committing Climate Fraud by changing the historical data colder and modern data warmer, and erasing long lived ice, as is demonstrably happening, shown by blink comparators between what they published a few years ago, and now? (And why should you believe any of their data once you see this?)
https://stevengoddard.wordpress.com/2015/09/17/noaa-massively-ramps-up-their-temperature-fraud-ahead-of-paris/
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Because they publish all the raw data (which never changes), and they exhaustively explain the methodology that goes into (improvements to) adjusting that data to get a better record of temperature, since not all historical data is accurate. Perhaps you can broach a discussion with all these scientists and point out what they are doing wrong in your opinion. Note that in your “evidence” some years were slightly warmer, others were slightly cooler. The raw data shows the same trend and is in aggregate not significantly different. The trend steepens mostly because 2015 and 2016 years were exceptionally warm.
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Here’s the other. https://stevengoddard.wordpress.com/2016/04/23/nsidc-busted/?fb_action_ids=10207586425031055&fb_action_types=og.shares
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Regardless of all that, we still need carbon fuels. Argue the warming/cooling/cause all you want, but the fact remains, we need the carbon. I happen to believe the Earth is a big old carbon-production and recycling facility, it adjusts. Face it, one fart from a volcano produces more sulfur and CO2 than the entire production by man, industrial age onward.
The kooks are just anti-progress with a political agenda, they give two shits about the environment or THEY would be living little instead of large.
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one fart …
This is factually not true, a much repeated myth.
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****Not very “””conservative”””, and won’t play well with the “muh Constitution” cuckwads, but it would be the sympathetic solution that avoids callously throwing the White working class under the bus. And of course there’s the risk that the government aid will be misused, as poor people are wont to do with social welfare. Plus, welfare, however well-intentioned, tends to dispirit Whites receiving it.****
Ugh I despise these “Muh Constitution” types. I was collecting unemployment insurance twenty years ago and taking training courses — something proactive in order to be able to land a job eventually. But some cuckwad was telling me that I wasn’t pulling myself up by my bootstraps and the government shouldn’t help people at all. Why is it immoral for whites to get some government assistance while the cucks remain largely silent about the amount of affirmative action and welfare that the dindus receive? The cucks demand self reliance of poor white males who are expected to make it in this world with a millstone around their necks.
Whenever I had to take advantage of collecting unemployment benefits or even welfare, I always took advantage of the downtime to focus and improve myself. I’ve known people who had to collect welfare (I lived in a gold mining town which was devastated economically in the 1980s and 1990s when gold prices collapsed) and these same people today are the hardest working people that I know.
Trump has already moved to the center on economics — giving signals he would raise taxes on the wealthy and being in favor of raising the minimum wage. The cucks are absolutely freaking out over this. This is giving him wiggle room to maintain his harder conservative stance over immigration. This is a very good tactic — it’s classic Sailer Strategy.
As for AGW, I think it is largely bullshit. But that doesn’t mean that we shouldn’t move away from coal if there are cleaner alternatives. The crash in natural gas prices has also been responsible for move away from coal anyway
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None of your solutions is particularly viable:
–Return of the coal-mining jobs would cost money, increasing the already ridiculous welfare (500 B$ globally) being spent on fossil fuels (not including costs for health, environmental degradation, and ultimately human extinction. It would also lead to more coal production, lowering the price even further, thereby making other coal operations less viable economically.
–Retraining them for (better) jobs in renewable energy would in most cases entail moving, and leaving West Virginia and their community. This is also not an attractive option.
–The other two options are politically unattractive.
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Teach the hillbilly kids to play soccer. I reckon they’d be ace at it. Particularly if they avoided wearing shoes for the first few years. Big money to be made, out in the World. So far, all you turn out is good goalies. Which is basically horizontal basketball.
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“If AGW is real and potentially catastrophic, what message …..
It ain’t. It’s purely BS brought on by the statist, anti-capitalist Cathedral.
Trump’s posture should come from the frame of holding onto the premise that anthropogenic climate change is bullshit. And stick with it unwaveringly.
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CH, please get a grip on yourself. I have advanced quantitative degrees and Michael “Horse Hockey Stick” Mann is in my circle, a degree or two removed.
Listen to me: they. are. lying. you are listening to beta orbiters trying to White Knight the whole world. Don’t validate them, GAME THEM. THERE IS NO GLOBAL WARMING. THERE IS NO CLIMATE CHANGE. THERE ARE MILLIONS UPON MILLIONS OF GRANT DOLLARS FREE TO THE BEST AND BRIGHTEST WHITE KNIGHT PHDS.
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Re: Trump vs. Sanders
I have educated my daughter to regard Sanders as a white hating jew. A Sanders win is not a main concern.
p.s. cuckservatives in my circle are still smarting over trump… oh well, they’ll survive.
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We need fucking trains. I live in rural Connecticut and there are already cargo trains going through my area to Boston and Providence. But no passenger trains, WTF?
If we had cheap passenger rail, rural whites could commute to Boston for tech jobs and mechanical jobs/union jobs and bring that money back to their communities, instead of H1-B visas and welfare sucking immigrant “cheap” labor.
Hell, if we had a rail to Boston I’d start an IT school in a church basement and get my IT bros to teach it via Skype on a large projection screen. I could have shitlord IT bros living in Russia or California teaching my computer school in a church basement. We would charge way less than the “Horizons” schools, and get way more done in less time.
But we are stranded without rail, so the Hajis get the computer jobs in Boston and American white swamp yankees get jobs at fucking Walmart or driving a forklift at a warehouse in terrible conditions.
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we DO need trains.
I have a suspicion that a certain (((group))) deliberately filibusters attempts to improve our rail system specifically because of how handy they will be when the time comes to “clean things up” a bit.
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Yeah, a truly national rail system would be something.
And Trump will have it running on time! 😉
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I hear you about the trains. But be careful. Trains allow blacks to move around. And taxpayers pay fo’ dey tiggets, dawg. Unnastan?
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True, but…
If it hastens the ol’ “feets doan fail me now” routine, what’s not to like?
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I work in the energy sector that deals directly with commercial and industrial power & natural gas sales.
Moving completely away from coal to natural gas WILL impact costs, will cost jobs, and will remove the competitive advantage of one of the USA’s most abundant natural resources. Costs for power (and natural gas, since now it’s being used as fuel to drive turbines to produce electricity) will go up likely permanently until a suitable fuel-based alternative is put in place.
This is going to hurt business’s bottom line (and cause gov’t taxes to increase) in a very tangible way. I’ll give you an example.
Let’s say a 200,000 square foot factory uses about 10 million kWh of electricity a year (a fair assumption). The cost per kWh for electricity to be produced stands at about $0.10 total delivered cost, so that factory is spending $1 million per year in electricity cost. Let’s say “clean” technologies produce the power. The difference is about $0.01 per kWh, or $100,000 per year in additional cost to that factory. That’s either going to get passed through to the end-user (higher product costs) that purchases their product, or to the workers in the form of fewer hours, less compensation, layoffs, etc.
Let’s say a small city uses a total of 20 million kWh. Now it has taken on an additional $200,000 in expense per year, which will now be billed back to the residents in some fashion.
Plus, the residents themselves are now facing an additional $100 per year in electricity costs.
Everybody loses. Clean coal with a progressive pollution is a far better alternative to natural gas from a cost standpoint. All these regulations are doing are driving costs, one way or another, back to the end user.
It’s basically a tax.
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The West is the strongest force in the world. Won;t global warming just fuck over the third world and cause them to die off, not us? And if it does affect our (European, American, Australian) resources or environment, we can just take what is left over that is still good. That’s the benefit of being powerful.
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West Virginia may be the best hope for America. It’s white and doesn’t have the wealth to support welfare or the Agricultural labor demand to Mexicanize. And its citizenry will oppose a similar transformation.
I’m excluding the West Virginia panhandle here: that’s transforming into a DC exurb. It could even become a wealthy exurb due to scenery and DC government $$ excess.
A generation ago, Iceland, Ireland and Norway were the West Virginias of Europe. Their trashy populations kept the banker’s attentions elsewhere and didn’t attract the migrants. Today, all three countries have comfortably high GDP.
West Virginia ranks near the top of places where children improve their economic situation compared to their parents. So, the raw talent is there: it just leaves to go elsewhere. But that talent is running out of places to escape to as the rest of America declines.
Natural resources wise, there’s no reason that American coal & steel and related industries should be out of business. That’s entirely government driven (including trade deals) and it’s the short term solution. The long term solution involves keeping talented West Virginians in West Virginia (and not because the rest of America falls apart).
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Call me when the climate gets as warm as the Eemian Interglacial. Only then should we start thinking about human contribution to climate change.
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conservative economics pundit, former Reagan economics advisor David (((Stockman))) is pro-Trump. (he even called out the “diversity pimps” the other day!). his articles on the macro state of US economy are pretty spot on.
if one believes the news everyone except a few backwards hillbillies are against Trump. but if realists like Stockman are leaning his way you can assume there are many, many others like him out there.
http://davidstockmanscontracorner.com/trumps-right-paying-back-the-national-debt-with-discounts-is-already-public-policy/
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global warming is a threat to national security!!!
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Global warming only looks like a liberal conspiracy because it is an excuse to do what The Left wants to do anyway. Those who see Global Warming as a grand plan to bring about a one-world government are likely in less denial of the FACT of human-caused climate change than The Left.
See: http://www.alternet.org/story/153230/to_conservatives,_climate_change_is_trojan_horse_to_abolish_capitalism
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this makes me wonder…
…..where gasbuttox has been.
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Nuclear power plant technicians are skilled labor. They must pass an exam that includes balancing chemical equations, basic physics (gravity, levers, pulleys ) , algebra, geometry and a bit of trig. Plus it takes fewer workers than coal production. The problem is West Virginia needs to diversify its economy. While a nuclear plant will bring good paying jobs, it isn’t enough.
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The point of the LMTR is that the thorium is in the coal. The nuke plants need the coal mines to provide the fuel – and the coal gets turned into cheap, clean diesel. Coal miners can’t be retrained to be nukeplant operators? That’s OK; we still need them in the mines.
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There is nothing more globalist than the global warming scam. Disappointing, CH. Consult with Steve Goddard.
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So what if we make nagger and aztec equatorial lands hotter? The land where humans dwell is on the cold side; a few degrees warmer means little. If “climate change” causes tens of millions(or more) of subhumans to die off, sounds like a big win to me. Humans, by definition, alter their environment to better suit themselves. It’s one of the qualifiers that separates us from animals. If these naggers and aztacs can’t, then by definition, they’re not “human.”
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Very proud of the comment section for calling out-of-touch elite CH on his shit. A populist uprising!
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Last point on GWH. Agriculture. Crops are finicky endeavours and plants don’t do bumper crops in suboptimal climates . Has there been a shift North of th Chinese rice-wheat border (from south of Yangtze to north). Are we eating Florida bananas, Georgia Oranges, and Virginia Peaches?
Is Sweden celebrating its potatoe bumper-crop?
No? Why not after 20 years of runaway worming?
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CH, just a point on the “big infrastructure projects” idea….
Big Liberal Labor successfully made labor, not materials or machinery, the most expensive part of any infrastructure project for several decades.
Back in the day, building a giant Widget in WV would indeed employ thousands of West Virginians.
Today, the Giant Whatsit Project will be designed by engineers in Chicago, built by a contractor based in Denver and owned by Skanska, with highly skilled labor from the last big Whatsit project in Vancouver, and whiz-bang high tech equipment built in Manitowoc, Wisconsin (if we’re lucky) and more likely Germany or Japan.
Building infrastructure DOES provide value to Americans, but the “we’ll build a big THING(tm) here and give you all jobs!!!” is just a myth.
Also, all aspects of AGW are a fabricated myth perpetuated by highly educated lemmings who forgot that confirmation bias is a thing. I’m an actual scientist…..take my word for it.
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I’m an old (well 31) hillbilly from Fayetteville, WV. I got a geology degree from WVU and decided to go into petroleum instead of coal because I saw the writing on the wall. A lot of Washington, DC trash is starting to sprawl into WV because of the much lower cost of living. So sadly, the most likely outcome is that WV becomes a bedroom community for DC trash, as transport links (eventually the hyperloop) get installed. We used to have a good chemical industry around here, making ammo for the DoD, but that all moved off elsewhere. It’s pretty common to have chemical plants next to coal mines. There is plenty of great human capital in the state, but we all leave. Kinda shows you why places like India and Mexico stay shit holes, since all the smart hard chargers GTFO.
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Global warming is being pushed, here in the West, in an effort to destroy the middle class, take away our independence , destroy our mobility and force us out of the rural confines into urban areas. At that point the teeming masses will be forced to embrace diversity and dependence on the Total State whether they want to or not. Its no coincidence that the USFWS (Fed guv.) – using $ paid to .gov for royalties for offshore drilling – is on an unprecedented buying spree of vast sections of private land while at the same time the global warming hysteria is reaching a fevered pitch. Its a pincer approach taking place and the average joe and jane on the street is unaware. Its happening right under the masses noses and they can’t even see it. Those of us who live and work in resource extraction industries in rural Amerikka are sure aware – but outside of us minorities – most are oblivious.
The global warming meme is an intregal part of Agenda 21. Elite scum like Soros love it because it moves us ever closer to world governance while simultaneously enabling that rotten piece of shit to pick up while sectors of the commodities industries for pennies on the dollar ( google who has been on a coal industry buying spree this last year)
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There are clear examples in this country where efficiency/environmental measures are nothing than a makework scheme which actually lead to more pollution. It’s now the law for me to carry a flu gas analyser, which by law needs calibrating every year, in order to keep on doing my job. This is nothing but a tax on my income to pay for an industry in producing and maintaining flu gas analysers. Their practical application in a domestic setting is near useless.
On another note, and seen as I’m talking about work, I’ve heard that white collar jobs make people more suitable to game and that way of thinking. Apparently people who are builders or explorers, for example, are more drawn to similar personality types and people who work in sales etc are more drawn to their opposites. Manly work seems to be an outlet for masculinity meaning the hypermasculinity in sex is lowered. Where men aren’t manly they become hyper-manly(the gay community being another good example)
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I do believe I’m amongst a culture here where business is seen as more masculine than craft. A negotiator would be considered more manly than a builder. Brand Trump is more manly than Apple’s engineering. Marketing is more manly than creation and so on and so on..
The traditional manliness is eroded and been replaced by a kind of yuppy laddishness where words rule over action.
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Promotion is more important than creation…
In the final analysis game really isn’t a masculine reaction to women having the run of the place, game is how to make women happy in a world where women have the run of the place. And some men get to experience the trickle down effects of women’s happiness whilst the situation across manhood as a whole deteriorates .
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Confidence is all well and good but we must spare a thought for merit and ability. The lack of game isn’t a problem for young men and I don’t think many streetwise youngsters would be surprised by anything in game. Many millennials are very astute about women as the shitlord sons of single mums they are.
But that’s all they’re astute about. Many men my age know their way around a woman but couldn’t find their own arse with both hands. Game is the only skill they’ve got and civilisation cannot stand upon this foundation.
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