What to say to a girl who has, unbeknownst or not, co-opted a favorite PUA line for her own amusement? A reader explains:
To CH & readers,
quick tactics question —
what if a girl pulls the Heartistian “don’t flatter yourself” riposte on you? How do you reply?
That happened to me, and not being swift of tongue I said nothing but walked away.
Thoughts?
Thanks.
Before you can know the right words, you have to be in the right frame of mind. That frame is: “My dance card is always bursting with poon flavor, so whatever any one girl says to me hardly jogs me from my glowing self-conception.”
Once this inner game is established, the “right” reply to a sassy girl will come more naturally and punctually.
VESSEL OF MALE MATE VALUE DETERMINATION: “Don’t flatter yourself.”
FILLER OF VESSELS OF MALE MATE VALUE DETERMINATION: “It’s hard not to.”
The words WILL come easier if you believe, really believe, you are Beelzebub’s gift to bush. I’ve no issue with those who advocate learning outer game before tackling inner game in order to get a taste of the in-field possibilities, but ultimately the coolest outer game must originate from the source pool of unshakeable inner game. Game neophytes often complain about being tongue-tied in the moment of truth, but that is less a reflection of their paucity of wit that it is of their weakness of mind. A strong mental self-appraisal will open the floodgates to a river of sexy ripostes.
“It ain’t flattery if it’s true, baby.”
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Old school variation: “It ain’t braggin’ if ya can make it happen.”
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SOUL-LESS: “It ain’t flattery.”
SOUL-FUL: “F*ck you, you filthy stinking wh0re.”
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Maybe the happy medium between indifference and rage would be humor. But it’s gotta be straight-faced, and you have to appear completely clueless [and innocent] about it. SHE: “Don’t flatter yourself.” YOU: “Huh?” SHE: “I said don’t flatter yourself, jack@ss.” YOU: “When did I flatter myself?” [Here you have to try as hard as possible not to break out laughing, which might be impossible.]
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But then the question arises as to whether you should waste your best material & your best moods on these snarky up-talking s1ut-c*nt w!tches. I kinda feel like you really ought to save your best stuff for the best chicks, because they’ve earned it. And it would be horrible if a chick, whom you cared about, came to discover that you had previously used the exact same lines & routines on a s1ut-c*nt of her acquaintance.
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Black Version: It aint trickin if ya got it
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“Don’T flatter yourself”
Pause… Eye Contact… Knowing Grin…
Now We Both Know That’s Impossible
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Damn. That’s a good one!
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My visceral instinctive gut reaction is to agree with the original poster and just walk away. I don’t know whether any of us have the reservoirs of energy necessary to save every filthy stinking c*nt whose heart & mind & soul have been lost to the Frankfurt School. Remember: You are The Prize. Not she. YOU. ARE. THE. PRIZE.
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The more I think about it, the more I feel like the road forks at the intersection of Anger versus Emotionless Insouciant Indifference. If you’re YaReally, and you’re trapped in a Spergtardian infinite feedback loop of insisting upon dipping it in every single chick whom you open on, then you can have a library of “clever” yet soul-less algorithms to deal with these situations. But in Real Life, never forget that nothing gets a chick wet quite like having a furious knock-down drag-out fight with her man, immediately followed by having her brains f*cked right out of her ears by him [NB: pay special attention to her Cl!t during the resolution of this maelstrom]. The single most powerful tool in your entire arsenal is ANGER, but then you have to pause and listen to your Amygdala, which keeps asking you whether the shrew is even worth wasting all the precious psychological calories required for the taming.
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OT but:
“Billionaire George Soros cut his firm’s investments in U.S. stocks by more than a third in the first quarter and bought a $264 million stake in the world’s biggest bullion producer Barrick Gold Corp.”
http://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/billionaire-soros-cuts-us-stocks-by-37percent-buys-gold-producer/ar-BBt7FZN?Ocid=ansmsnmoney11
–May be old news but it just popped up on the bing news trawl. But I believe we’ve been warned to look for the moment (((investors))) make their move to seize the real wealth . . .
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saw that. so now that (((they))) have bled the economy out by putting the next six generations in debt, they’ll convert the spoils into hard assets.
why was it so easy to pull this off?
in any case, I’m not too worried. once they’ve done the hard work of digging the gold out of the ground we can take it back.
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Soros is very heavily invested in grain silos and calorie-producing cropland. Whereas Buffett is very heavily invested in the train companies which move bulk goods to market. These nihilists know d@mn well that it’s all smoke and mirrors, and that at the end of the day, you have to own something real, not something fake. Of course, they’re also the ones spewing the smoke grenades all over the battlefield, in order to confuse the Enemy [which would be the American Middle Class].
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Why is the butthurt your first instinct? You should mentally begin where your post ended. As the prize. As such, the correct answer, is …
(confidently) “No worries” (or, chuckling) “please. That’s your job”
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Captain Obvious, you sure do talk a lot. And you’re parroting too much. I like Heartiste a lot, but I don’t agree with everything he says down to the newspaper microdot. For example, he’s very much into holding back and leaning away, whereas I agree with a blogger named xsplat who touts the value of love.
In my experience, occasional massive injections of apparent love, and deep passion, are like a direct cortisone hit of cocaine to the female brainstem. If you can throw your arms around her and swing her around with a look of joy on your face, when really you’re thinking about solidifying your hold on her.
I also disagree with the formulation of “You Are The Prize.” I would frame it in terms of desirability of male versus female and superiority of essence of one over the other and who can survive best in this world. To say, “you are the prize” puts too much of a burden on neophyte seducers. It is better for each male to realize his own sexuality, which is appreciated by the under-sex, and to understand his bargaining position versus hers — all objective criteria which don’t lean heavily on empty platitudes like “You Are The Prize.” Anyway, this is very complex and I don’t have space to go into it. It’s funny, I wanted to say C. Obvious yapped too much, and I here I am, full-blasting at a gossip girl’s level. Motherfucker. *amused* Talk on Captain. Talk on.
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SG, I go back and forth in my mind on this shizzle. The problem is that in real life, I really am The Prize. So when some dumb stinking uptalking snarky horse-faced carousel-riding c*nt [with fast-leathering skin from too much partying] starts giving me sh!t, I just don’t have the patience to even fake the d@mned humor anymore. I’m sick of this sh!t. And a lot of it depends on my mood. Which seems to get worse the more I have to deal with consequences of all this Frankfurt School nihilism.
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easily neutralized with a casual-yet-withering observation of one of her likely numerous flaws. in fact, you should be so focused on her seemingly infinite flaws that you’re waiting for her to say or do something pleasant to offset all the imperfection assaulting your eyes.
don’t know this particular girl’s vulnerabilities, but “wow your voice sounds a lot like my brother’s. he’s a cop” or, “what’s it like to have such large hands?”
anything that subtly brings her attractiveness into question is fair game.
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> “a casual-yet-withering observation of one of her likely numerous flaws” ——— I’m not disagreeing that that will work – it will work. But at what cost? If that’s your response, then she’s succeeded in dragging you down to her level of catty passive-aggressive venomous-ness, which has got to take a toll on your Inner Frame and your Ownership of yourself. So, again: “At what cost?”
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women, especially young ones, have a way of shaping up when confronted with a real deal alpha. if no one’s ever challenged her sexual superiority before, then she’s had no reason to drop the catty behavior.
some pruning of bad behavior is to be expected. obviously other considerations such as her looks or your other options affect how much pruning one should be willing undertake.
and in any case, no one’s talking about spending more than a meal’s worth of calories training a girl. efficiency is the player’s most senior advisor.
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PJ, replied out of order below here.
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“You sound like my brother. He’s a cop,” would be slightly better.
Negs shouldn’t carry even a whiff of butthurt, just gentle mocking, or amused indifference.
Girls who wisecrack might be teases/attention whores or complete sluts.
But if you can crack their frame a bit – and with women, wisecracks are chiefly a defense mechanism for soft hearted or wary girls – they will fall passionately in love, or at least in lust.
“At last,” they think. “A man who can match me, who isn’t a weakling like all the others.”
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> ““You sound like my brother. He’s a cop.” ——— Or “You sound like my Mom.” Or “You sound like my Grandma.” [cousin neg of epic “You smell like my Grandma” little Sh!tlord previously profiled chez Le Chateau].
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“You smell like my grandma!” == The Young Alpha Male, October 6, 2014, by CH
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PJ, so many different thoughts here. In the process of breaking and remolding and remaking a filthy stinking wh0re, are you not simply polishing up & shining a turd? Is not the ultimate purpose of Game Theory to allow you to chose from a broader spectrum of higher quality p00ntang? NEVER NEVER NEVER allow yourself to forget the innate visceral instinctive gut reaction which you got when you first met the chick – your initial impression was almost certainly the correct judgement of her nature [and everything that came afterwards was just an ego-salving rationalization for the fundamental mistake of having gotten involved with her in the first place]. Never stop looking for true Natural Chemistry in your mate – it’s out there somewhere, just waiting for you.
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“NEVER allow yourself to forget the innate visceral instinctive gut reaction which you got when you first met the chick”
scripture.
Cap, it wasn’t until I had the experience of getting dirty, lying, deceitful stinking whores eating out of my arse that I was learned to appreciate the sweet, untainted, loving ethereal beauties that I now consider good partner material, and to listen to the gut reaction you speak of.
it’s important (for many guys) to tinker with the whole spectrum of womenz in order to zero in on what you really want, and be certain in your bones that you’re not missing out on something.
no stone left unturned==>no regrets.
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So much of this is simple Conservation of Energy. If you set out to defeat every snarky up-talking horse-faced bulldozer-assed 125-notch-count Sarah-Jessica-Parker/Lena-Dunham wannabee, then will you not eventually die the death of a thousand cuts? That was the epic mistake which Der Fuhrer made – ultimately he decided to attack EVERYONE. But if, instead, he had chosen his wars more carefully, and fought only those battles which were absolutely necessary to fight, then he might have carved out a Homeland [both physical & cultural] for the German people which could have persisted for a millennium or more.
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another way of looking at this is that one has to be a master of both gender equality vis-a-vis the sexually liberated woman AND a master of sexual dimorphism vis-a-vis the chaste, submissive woman in order to truly be able to choose between the two.
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The old classics work great in these situations too. “You kiss your mother with that mouth?”
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Back in my internet dating days, I saw a profile that read, “You must have a man’s hands, no little boys with tiny wrists.”
I opened with: “how big are your wrists?”
Her: “lol. they are small.”
Which led into a conversation about her having to prove it by texting a picture, and getting her number a little later. Point is, I think your neg has pretty wide application and I’m stealing it.
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[…] Subverting Sassy Sluts […]
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The evolution of Game:
1950: “You’re nice, I like you”
1970: “You wanna do it?”
1985: (Oakleys on) “Y’all get in my Jeep, party in O.C.!!”
1998: “I’m socially liberal and fiscally conservative”
2007: “nice nails, are they real?”
2015: (fuck this gay planet… heads it’s gun in my mouth, tails it’s hi-rep / hi-weight sets)
2016: “what? Hitler? Yeah baby, MAGA!”
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2017: you: “no swastika tattoo? “coexist”? get lost you sellout shill cunt!”
her: “but wait! I’m planning to get one!”
you: “too late. bye.”
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2020
Her: I can’t believe I could get tickets for The Battle of Eurabia Victory Parade. Emperor Trump is going to be there and everything!
You: I got 2 right here babe, lets go!
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PA, that’s a pretty good synopsis of our half-century [century?] long slide into the sewer of R-Selected orientalistic nihilism. Now we know what the Sh!tlords felt like during Weimar.
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Roman Republic, c. 510 BC., Lucretia: “The King has raped me! You must kill him as I now kill myself, for I am no whore!”
Roman Republic, c. 450 BC., Verginius: “You have ruled that I must turn my daughter over to you to become your sex-slave, but I would rather see her dead” (stabs daughter through heart)!
Roman Republic, c. 186 BC., Consul Postumius: “The women of the City have run a large-scale sex-cult in secret for years, debauching themselves and luring boys to join. Today, men are members of the Bacchanalian Cult as well and are more likely to sleep with each other than with the women. We condemn them all!” (orders the execution of all members).
Roman Empire, c. 220 AD., Emperor Elagabalus: “I’m no longer satisfied with the sexing; Doctor’s, I want you to give me a vagina by cutting me.”
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God, I hate waiting through moderation.
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May 2016: “Fuck you! I’ll take my cat to the prom!”
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-3593502/The-purrfect-prom-date-Teen-couldn-t-date-high-school-dance-takes-family-CAT-instead-gets-pretty-pink-dress-match-bow-tie.html
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That cracked me up. Notice the way his cat was looking up at him? I’m hoping that kid was just trolling everyone. But these days you never know.
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Her: “Don’t flatter yourself”
You: “Someone has to set a good example”
I get a lot of these types of lines.
I also get girls I’m gaming using my texting patterns:
“k”
“…”
“oh…”
“behave”
And others.
When I get these I usually say “Be original”…That moves it back to my frame.
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WW, serious question: Does anything ever come of this gibberish? What’s the mean, median, and standard deviation of the notch counts of these chicks? Thirty years from now, when they’re all post-menopausal, what will their cumulative Total Fertility Rate prove to have been [in retrospect]? Personally, all I see is a vast seething teeming ocean of nihilistic purposelessness & meaninglessness & emptiness.
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Nietzsche did go crazy in the end.
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“we’ll see how you play your cards” is great all purpose line. Doesn’t even have to make sense… Just flips the script and puts you in discerning mode and her in chase mode.
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@Sentient/CO Doesn’t have to make sense. I’ve had text chats with girls that aren’t even real words…just ones I’ve made up: “Blah…myeh….myuh huh” Wah???
It’s not the words, it’s the timing, the tone, the context.
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No – my point is: Okay, you’ve figured out the algorithm. You can get a large percentage of them – 75% to 90%, or more – to hop right into bed with you. Congratulations. Now what? When does little sh!tlord WalaWala Jr get to push his head out of the b!rth canal? Because Game is just a TOOL – a tool which can be used for Good, or for Ev!l. And I just don’t seen any purposefulness in your posts lately.
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@Chaplain Obvious… thanks.
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Personally, I’m rooting for little sh!tlord Walawala Jr to push his head out of the birth canal & start screaming bloody murder & make your life a pure unadulterated living he11. LOL’ed. And then he’ll need some younger brothers & sisters so that he isn’t lonely…
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“Slow your rolls! I was just asking where the restroom was, since you work here and all.”
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You could always throw out a couple of bars of this classic…
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According to Spoogle+, that video does not exist. I’m not just sure, I’m Spoogle Positive!
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“Don’t flatter yourself.”
“Patience, luv… I’ll get around to you shortly.”
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I like this one and the use of “luv” to gnaw at her ever so gently. The primer.
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Certainly not! I leave that to others. Like you.
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This is an interesting comment, and one that Feynman apparently took instinctively, except he didn’t get it quite right. In Surely You Must Be Joking,
RPF is given advice to never buy a girl a drink until she has agreed to sleep with you and means it. But rather than just take it as game advice, he internalizes it into deep method acting in which he resents women for trying to cheat him out of a drink without putting out. It works for him, 2 lays for 2 applications, but he resents resenting women, so only does it twice.
I’d always found it interesting that Feynman instinctively went all method acting like that. I also find it interesting that CH has a major improvement in what the mindset should be.
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Whenever I’ve read Feynman [either the technical stuff, or the shizzle for the lay audience – no pun intended], I’ve always come away with the impression that there’s no there there.
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Any scientist that meets with media lionization… especially these days… should, ipso facto, be taken with at least a little grain o’ salt.
I like to refer to it as the DeGrasse Parallax.
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@Greg Eliot
Indeed.
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1. Broad: “Don’t flatter yourself”
You: “I can’t help it! *preen*”
2. Broad: “Don’t flatter yourself”
You: “So a blowjob’s out of the question then…what about a handy? [makes jerk off motion]”
3. Broad: “Don’t flatter yourself”
You: “I don’t take orders from anyone. What’s your name?”
Or if you MUST walk away, give her the flippant “Bye Felicia!” with flamboyant hand gestures like our African-American brethren and a smirk on your face. Other girls around will be attracted to your witty ZFG backturn and the one that said no is a distant visage behind you. Get her in the rear view so you can view some other rears.
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And he finally uses the word beelzebub. Lord of the Flies and ShitLord are literal translations of Beelzebub. The first seducer in the garden.
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My go to response?
Say it with me, fellas….
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Consensual love-making?
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Flatter RAPE
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Totally off topic, but I simply have to share it:
4 engines, each with 250hp, and a theoretical max height of 10,000 feet. THIS is the kind of genius and Shitlordian spirit that enabled Europeans to conquer the world.
Still, had European civilization never existed, I’m sure somebody in Africa would have designed and built an equivalent craft anyway….. sometime in the next 20,000 years or so*
*Is that being too generous?
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> “sometime in the next 20,000 years or so* *Is that being too generous?” ——— I’d add at least another zero. http://www.livescience.com/44988-humans-dispersed-earlier-than-thought.html
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When’s the next slot Lake Victoria’s likely to become a glacier?
+200,000 on that.
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Why bother, when the easiest way to rise above lesser men is to wack them with a stick and steal their mongongo nuts? Simple cushy environment, simple lives. Simple methods, simple minds can get by, at least.
Without some sort of selective pressure/motivation, nothing will ever change down there. Why should it? That would be Oppressive &c.
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Someone that bitchy generally isn’t even worth it anymore. These days I like fighting fire with nukes just for the lulz, and my go-to for something like that is…
“hahaha, you were DEFINITELY raised by a single mom”, stare for about two seconds and then walk away.
Whether true or not (and you have pretty good odds that it’s true), it will shiv the chick so hard that she’ll either flip her shit, or even better, begin to validate herself to you. Either way it’s a win-win, but this move is not for cucks with balls the size of bb-gun pellets.
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Jason773, I’m going to come on here as Jason772 and Jason774 and post lots of random shit just to confuse the fuck of readers.
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Serious question.
Here’s an English teenage girl on the cusp of womanhood. — wholesome, beautiful, and talented (skip to her impersonations if you don’t have time).
And here she is just a couple of years later — an avowed feminist railing against the “patriarchy,” defending deviants, and preaching “equality.” There’s already a glimpse of cat-ladyship in the future.
When I saw the first video years ago, I immediately wondered what that kind of exposure would do to her. In particular, I thought tasteless comments like “damn you’re gorgeous,” or “merry [sic] me” would either creep her out or stoke her ego, both of which are no good. Yet they’re inevitable, this being the internet and she being a pretty, charismatic girl. And now we have the reaction.
It’s as if the modern world conspired to corrupt young people, especially girls. They now have easy avenues to showcase their dramatic flair and satisfy their craving for attention, but the attention they get is impersonal and often creepy (the kind enjoyed only by hussies). Good girls are then told to blame the “patriarchy” for the creeps when in fact the creeps only exist because there’s no patriarchy to set good examples for modern men, who themselves are caught up in the evils of modernity, too.
How do you save modern young girls? It’s not just Game. Applied charisma, sure, but if you need a hard-edged, nuclear game to get through to a woman, then she’s already lost.
Sometimes I feel like a Christian missionary, trying to save souls from damnation.
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> “How do you save modern young girls?” ——— That’s exactly the question which I’m asking above here. Maybe you can save a few here & there, but you can’t save ALL of them. You’ve gotta conserve your energy for the salvageable ones, and get the he11 outta the way of the doomed.
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> “Sometimes I feel like a Christian missionary, trying to save souls from damnation.” ——— That’s exactly the sort of motivation which brought me to the manosphere. First it was to try to help Betas in manning up & growing a pair & deserving to have a woman of their own. But now increaslingly I find myself wondering whether we can save any of these females whose hearts & minds & souls have been destroyed by the Frankfurt School. Probably only if we adopt a zero-tolerance-policy zero-f*cks-given Shitlordery of the Culture.
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Cappy, this correlates to, or rather, is an example of not tossing your pearls to the swine.
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If anyone deserves to be saved, this girl does — solid middle-class, artistic, and thoughtful. In terms of overall qualities, she’s easily in the top decile among her peers. Who wouldn’t want to have her as a daughter, even after the feminist video? External forces crammed feminist shibboleths down her pretty little head, and she’ll need external forces to uncram them.
Softheadedness is fundamentally a female trait. Women absorb myths, especially prevailing ones, more readily than men. It’s not necessarily a defect. In the olden days, this means women were more religious than men, which is a good thing for women to be (by the way, this girl actually believes in God). Unfortunately, today religion has given way to the Leftist orthodoxy.
To write off a girl like this would be a mistake. On whom would you rather concentrate your energy? Twerking American teens?
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Well, can you make contact with her, in a non-creepy way? If you want to “save” her, then you gotta open the lines of communication… Otherwise, be like The Donald, and get to work making yourself into the man who could someday save her equivalents, in 2035, or 2050…
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Great thread.
She’s still a pretty girl in the 2nd video, but there is that something about her look which doesn’t speak age, but–what? Cynicism? Leftist intolerance? Alchohol? BJs? Just a hint of varnish, like it could all blow away and revea
l her fresh and luminous; or else it could metastasize into blowziness.
Maybe it’s just the lighting. She’s terribly naïve about “feminism”, so in that sense she’s probably not been exposed to Irigaray and all that shit yet. But I’m not listening to it all.
(NB: I just consulted Wikipedia on a lark, and it tells me Irigaray took two Masters degrees first and later two PhDs. How telling . . . ]
How to save her? lolz Well, I’m returning to the manuscript of my “college novel” so perhaps I should take that into consideration.
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How do you save modern young girls?
You don’t. They’re gone.
Time to move on.
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If you lay a finger on my daughter I will blow your brains out.
This is your last warning.
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Many are lost, only a few are saved.
You can’t fix crazy.
Next.
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Move on to what? Robots? Poolside ZFG attitude is fine for PUAs, but I thought this blog is more than that. Certainly, our host is.
You can’t have a civilization without women. And this, in particular, is the kind of woman you want in your civilization.
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COTW right thar… maybe even COTM.
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She strikes me as a Muslim convert and jihadi bride in the making.
Stay tuned.
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How defeatist of you.
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“How do you save modern young girls?”
I had a longish reply eaten by the mod. C’est la vie.
I’ll simply add that, in response to your question, I think Whorefinder has a prescription . . .
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a brush with mortality does tend to solve a multitude of behavioral problems.
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The difference between the two photos is a pump and dump.
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Let’s begin with an extremely important point.
Women are like sponges, they soak up the elements of the environment they are in (culture), and incorporate them into their personalities.
Define the perceptual environment, define the woman.
Change the perceptual environment, change the woman.
I cannot state the value of understanding this principle enough, because it manifests itself in female behavior over and over again:
-Women who are friends with divorcees becoming far more likely to divorce.
-Women getting easily brainwashed by the cultmarx apparatus and going from sweet, cute, country girl, to 300 lb bluehaired, genderfluid, harpy in 4 friggin’ years flat.
-Women from non-feminist countries losing their minds once they spend enough time in the anglosphere
-The reverse happening when anglosphere women are brought outside it, isolated, and start to change under the pressure to conform to traditional roles.
-Their eager response to a guy posing as a celebrity using only a herd of fake groupies
-The fact that they start to automatically synchronize monthly cycles with each other!
I’m telling you, herd behavior is literally baked into XX DNA!! With this in mind, the persuasion technique of ****social proof**** has an outsized effect on them.
Our (((Eskimo))) friends understand this and have been using it to their advantage for decades. The modus operandi has always been to win hearts and minds by creating the appearance of consensus (whatever consensus they desire to create) through propaganda and media trickery.
Our counter-attack to this then must be twofold:
1. Short circuit the various mechanisms of their consensus-faking machine
and
2. Creating and publicizing a counter-consensus
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She’s got that “Englishwoman face” thing, creases from the nose, and the ends of the mouth. Same as you get on heavy smokers, but apparently inherent, in them.
Turns into nasty jowls, especially under the influence of a pint of Chardonnay a day (par for the course).
It’s one of the ways one can spot the abos; welsh, scots, irish. They don’t have it, and they have more stylish eyebrows. All very odd, and I have no explanation. If you spot a workingclass “English” girl without the incipient churchill bulldog face-folds, odds-on she’s of deep (I mean deep, like bronze age or something) insular heritage. And vice-versa.
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Never noticed it before but good observation. She reminds me of Haley Mills. Still, if she stays away from the Chardonnay, she’ll age well too. I’d be more worried about her spiritual health if involved with her. She needs some reinforcement of the positive lessons she learned in the home.
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Wonder if she’s got hot pink hair and piercings yet ?
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Hi-IQ gorgeous women (often Jewish) deliver thermonuclear sh-t tests loaded with wit and sadism. They size you up in a cruel fashion and deliver the shiv. To “save” one of these ladies you need to shatter her will Petrucio-style and then she will bear you extraordinary ubermensch to lead the re-conquest of Constantinople.
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Sell your yentas elsewhere… we’re all stocked up here.
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You left out the smell, Rebbe.
Definite deal killer to anyone with a human soul.
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the girls you’re all talking about in this post remind me of that skank jennifer lawrence. she’s everyone’s hero right now for saying she wanted to tell trump to f@#k off. classy girl. here’s a visual
http://giphy.com/gifs/2aTw9iKLJ3Fcs/tile
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[…] Source: Heartiste […]
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***** Field report + game test *****
Saturday night, Ponce was drunking with friends and female friends of my friends were coming and going from our side.
A girl* came and look at me and said: I like you… for a friend.
I was annoyed and took a moment to reply. I said her: You come here and look at me. There are many people here you can look at and your friend isn’t here(I asked previously). Do you know something?? You like me.
Then I give her my back and after a while I realized that she was at my side and I was grabbing her waist.
17 yo
The test/question is What to do when a girl says the “for a friend”? And what is, a shit test?? Irreverent female ego?
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> “17 yo: I like you… for a friend.” ——— “That’ll do, at least until your 18th birthday.”
In all seriousness, though, what do you want from this chick? You don’t have to dip it in every chick. At least not immediately. Plus, if you’re “friends” with her for long enough, then eventually you WILL dip it in her. Guaran-d@mn-teed.
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Spain age of consent is 16. A couple of years ago was 14 or 13. I’m 20 she wasn’t a friend, she was a acquaintance of someone
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PdL, you’re 20? I had you pegged at more like 60. LOL’ed. You’re doing just fine.
PS: Seriously, ask yourself what you want from this chick. Given Spain’s extinction-level fertility rates, six or eight Whyte bunz in her oven would be a nice start.
PPS: If we here in the USA were to tap a 17yo, then we’d be looking at about 20 years in prison.
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Is really necessary have in moderation a (another) comment of such laconic size?
P.S. Llozlzlol 60??? Such angry speech I have?
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“Then I give her my back and after a while I realized that she was at my side and I was grabbing her waist.”
17 yo.
Introduce her to your little friend, up close and personal like.
Hell , you say it'[s legit over there, You aint but 20 you seff.
Pounce, young Ponce.
Make Espana great agin !
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Only 89% of España population are Spanish. Most of aliens are not white. Are moor southamerican african and chinese. Like every place under the ZOG we are going to be a caliphate if this doesn’t stop. Most men here are cucks, antifa cucks and all sorts of traitors and wealth “envy” redistributers socialist. My friend this is maybe the end. I’m seeking now for a new home. A white nation to make great, but if The Trump doesn’t win, and ZOGs and cucks hold on power… better be optimistic
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P.S. Only 30 years ago the population was 99’9% white and Spanish.
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I take “Don’t flatter yourself” to mean “I think you’re hot”.
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O/T. How do you deal with an Old Cunt who hates you for no (known) reason? In this case it’s a neighbor but I’ve had it with Co-workers in the past too.
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same way you deal with cancer. if you can’t remove it completely you at least try to keep it from spreading. this means you don’t feed it by reacting. but don’t ignore it either.
kindness at least helps you keep an eye on your enemies. but too much kindness and they’ll think you’re an ally and will put you against your other neighbors. be unpredictable and nimble and keep her guessing.
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Maybe change your thinking to everybody loves Scott. It’s amazing what a little positive visualization can do for a man’s soul.
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Find out when her birthday was (check the coffin plate in the crypt) and leave a hash brownie on her desk (with some lilies) explaining how much you have always valued her wisdom and assistance. Then run away, wearing garlic.
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She wants some ,scott. How old is old to you ?
Give us a bit more detail.
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She’s my old cunt neighbor. Has to be mid 60’s or so. But I had a mid 40’s woman at my last corporate Job who loathed me with a passion. I’d never talked to either woman prior (I mostly keep to myself) to their hating me. The current cunt neighbor calls the city to report me for ‘violations’ that are petty at best and not occurring or violations at worst. The last one would call HR on me. I quit the job because it sucked anyways (hindsight I would have made some lives miserable and got fired instead) but I’m not moving.
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“Violations” hey? Scott, that’s called a Freudian slip or something.
Grit your teeth, it’s grab-a-granny night. And bring some lube, she’s post-menopausal.
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Thanks, Heartiste, for answering and publishing my question (somehow I came off as anonymous in my original posting, weird)! You’re correct about getting the right mindset. I clearly wasn’t because I was “rattled” (bad).
Anyway, this was that co-worker I kept rambling on about in previous posts and whom everyone including you said to drop because she had too much hand. The positive thing of the ultimate failure of this whole thing is that she’s leaving, but even then I hadn’t the right mindset, as later on she blew me out of the water with this:
she: so I’m leaving in two weeks.
me: shame, really, just when we were starting to get along.
she: did we, really? I don’t know….
me: you’re probably right. Then get the hell out.
she smiles. “aww. that’s the sweetest thing you’ve ever said.”
I said nothing, and she then walked away from my cubicle.
i thought i was being over the top but looking back I see that it was the wrong reaction. an overreaction. anyway, today’s her last day. good riddance.
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Probably unrelated, but interesting theory.. CH might formulate it better..
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/women-are-more-likely-to-have-sex-with-other-women-because-of-evolution-scientist-claims-a7033946.html
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Lol Evolution again!! Polygyny!! Darwin!! Old XIX ideas proved to be wrong by Lysenkoism and Frankfurt School!!!
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Kanazawa was a honorific white because of Japan. But now he is sanctificated as a Truth and Beauty paladin
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Wow that’s K’inich Janaab’ Pakal the Lord of Palenque, reborn. A bit fatter.
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(Beelzebub’s gift to bush) lol
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I’ve never had a female say anything remotely like “Don’t flatter yourself.” A more typical response, for me, would be open-eyed interest, or uncontrollable giggles of delight.
I think there’s something wrong with your presentation. The biggest factor that you’re dealing with is your face. Look at your head in the mirror and practice coming up to the mirror, as if the mirror were a living breathing female. Putting yourself in the girl’s shoes, what do you see?
Your eyes are the heart of you, followed by the set of your mouth, followed by the angle of your face, how it’s pointing. Now you can be determined, or you can be light and casual, or you can be curious and exploratory … but you should be something. You can’t just be blank and hopeful. Forget that shit.
Bad faces include fear, worry, hesitancy, uncertainty, confusion about what you’re doing there, and the ever-popular “stab in the dark” face, where you’re just lunging toward an unknown conclusion. What the positive faces all have in common — from determined to casual — is that there’s an intelligent PURPOSE behind them. You are manifesting your personality, your essence. Remember that you are uniquely you. While not everyone may like you, you should have enough conviction in yourself to project your true self (your “soul” if you will, although I don’ t believe in the religious aspect of it) to the world.
I think the man who got the “don’t flatter yourself” has to honestly appraise himself whether he’s an interesting individual. All the ZFG & confidence & ballsiness in the world won’t help you if you’re basically repulsive in who you are. Can you make friends with males? Can you be entertaining with males? Do you burn like a candle in your presence, whether virtually — on the computer — or live, in real life? If you aren’t sure, the answer is probably “no.” Because girls will like what males appreciate (to some extent), if you can’t win with men in ordinary social intercourse, you can count on failing with the inferior gender, krees.
Lastly, consider your motivations for going after the female. Do you truly WANT her or are you picking one out of the crowd, like a loser in the last closing minutes of a club when he’s desperate for a lay? Take a page from the female book and be choosy with girls. Unless you’re a consummate actor — like I, Sorcerygod am — your level of sincere interest in a girl will shine through your attempted-aloof exterior. And if presented in the right way, sincere interest is good. (I will not debate the question of aloof versus non-aloof; I will say that in a relationship you should definitely have a take-or-leave-it mentality, and be prepared to ditch a cunt at any short notice, and convey that in your vibes, but that’s different from showing interest on first notice.)
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Her: Don’t flatter yourself.
You: That’s what my lonely spinster aunt says.
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Just saw a very pretty preteen blonde chatting, with -that- sparkle in her eyes, some negro boys.
My blood pressure shot up for the moment – but came back down because the flip side of girls falling for the miscegenation ((shtick)) is more whytebois as potential mates for my daughters.
OTOH my sons will have to go East of Hajnal, it appears.
P.S.
LBF glad you heard me, boi.
u break it – u own it.
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My daughter is many years away from all this, and she’ll be raised properly to hopefully avoid all of this on her own, but I swear to god if I catch wind of a dindu trying to game her I will give him a talk that will make Tony Soprano’s little chat he had with Meadow’s nog look like gushing admiration. He will come away knowing the truth — that I’m enough of a crazy fucker to do it, too.
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I have sons, no daughters and yet I am aware that there are men who have daughters and that some of those daughters become mudsharks. What I don’t know, is how do they not just explode or alternately off themselves. Tragedies of all kinds happen, such as drunk driving deaths. But most tragedies don’t rub themselves in your face forever after that and they don’t humiliate you ever day. It must be hell, with disowning such a daughter being the only legal reaction I can think of that doesn’t just destroy your soul.
[CH: i can’t imagine that horror either. i suppose cucks become cucks because abject supplication to emotionally rationalizing their lineage’s annihilation and daughters’ degradation are the only responses that don’t immediately snuff out their will to live. or: it’s an inverse sour grapes. “those rotten grapes are right in my face, so I may as well eat them and pretend I love the taste”]
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while she’s still young show her a picture of Jesse Washington. tell her, “this is the natural order of things. this is human nature. the police are not gods and ultimately they cannot protect you. only your own family and your own people can protect you.
“if you betray your people by sharing your love with outsiders, they will reject you. the outsiders will also reject you, because you you’re not one of them. you will be totally alone. nobody will want you. ever.
“you will have no safety. no protection. no friends. no love. you will be right up there next to Jesse Washington.”
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Make the daughters watch a week’s worth of the Bill Cunningham show.
If they still want the dindu after that, they’re beyond hope.
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Regular trips to Walmart and doing some pointing and ridiculing will probably be enough.
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Being old and crazy can be a good thing.
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The way to keep your daughters safe is to start AMOGing blacks before she is dating age. Ridicule them, show her the data on IQ differences, how they abandon their families, don’t work, etc. The narrative is we feel sorry for their low value as humans, not for any kind of unfair treatment.
They are NOT the cool kids. They are sad.
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‘You say something about flatulence? Wondered what that smell was.’
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Her: Don’t flatter yourself…
You while looking at her from head to toe: With what…then turn and walk away.
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Smirk.
Say “too late.”
Walk away.
[CH: good one! even without the walking away part.]
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More than likely the gal is NOT in the prime pussy paradox range, but a low (walls a coming) 8, but more like a 7 high 6. A ZFG inner-frame is de rigueur and SOP for the emerging jerkboy. The stumbling is akin to a very deceptive pitch (by a pro nonetheless) that leaves you frozen. Didn’t take into consideration the cold approach might get you blown out. Maybe when meeting this epiphany-phase sassy (read: pain in the ass) slut is to run reverse con game.
Her: “don’t flatter yourself”
You: “Yea, maybe your right. This really pretty lady I had sex with not too long ago keeps calling me after I explained to her that I wanted something more than a physical relationship. (insert longer calibrated con set-up).
Risk\reward\trade-offs.
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Nope. Won’t work. Sorry bra.
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Sumbitch, thats funny, and yet so true. Wimmen.
Thanks, cortesar.
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I first heard that joke in a WC Fields movie. It still cracks me up.
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My response : ” You – flatter me. Cmon on. (..said with a smirk )
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This has been used by girls since I was young. Dude bros….we owned it long before you 😉
Aldo, the only comeback is comeback the next day.
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Sanders up in KY by just over 1,000 votes at 95% reporting. Bwahaha
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“Don’t flatter yourself.” – My instinct is to laugh. Just like this morning when I saw the lead story on Google News about how surprising it is that the press is all for Clinton, LOL. I kid you not. And it wasn’t an anti-Bernie piece. Shit like this is literally laugh out loud funny. Then I’d walk away – I don’t have time for this sorry ass witch. She’s probably ultra-selfish in bed as well.
Hmm witch. “Whatsamatta? Run out of Eye of Newt again?”
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And that assumes she said it meanly. If she was teasing, this is a whole different ballgame. If she were smiling, her eyes were lit up and she had IOIs. . . then what would you say folks? Certainly the witch factor disappears. Instead, we’re playing and I like to play. “You’re right – that’s your job.”
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Her:Don’t flatter yourself
You:Whatever you say wormhands
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On a lighter note, just DON´T SASS or else..
(go to 1:30 if the timejump thingy doesn´t work out)
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Breitbart:
‘Kelly asked Trump about tweets that referred to her as a “bimbo.”
Trump said that’s “not the most horrible thing … over your life Megyn, you’ve been called a lot worse wouldn’t you say?”’
Someday a generation of boys will thank God they grew up under this guy’s Administration.
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The government is stepping up the propaganda too, doubling down on stupid. This will not end well. Catholic prophecy fulfilled before your very eyes.
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Yep!
I actually saw a “multiculti” ad the other day.
Sponsored by some shady “Gutmenschen”-group I´ve never heard of.
Marking it as a sign we´re winning.
The Eskimos & traitor minions feel so panicy, they´re running retarded propaganda ads now.
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I think Heiko Maas’ had a come to Jesus Moment in Zwickau and has been hiring the rent a Mobs. I predict the SPD will drop to historic lows and the CDU will drop to high 20s while AfD will hit over 30%. This will backfire beautifully.
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For ze Germans here (ab der 3.Minute geht’s los)
I always revel in the stony socialist Gutmenschen faces on hearing the song.
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i’m now convinced that Michelle Obama is a man. maybe you guys already knew this. I just now realized it, and it explains so much:
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Joan Rivers would not have been murdered if it weren’t true.
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damn. I can’t believe it took me so long. it explains the whole f’n tranny doctrine they’re trying to enforce.
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How did her being a (()) help?
Like it helped bronstein Mandelstamm iagoda and yakir.
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It didn’t. She just spoke too much and they killed her in such a way so as to send that message.
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That’s probably just an oversized tampon slipping around…
… and Joan Rivers, well… 81 years old, full of plastic and God knows what else, going under the knife yet again… meh. She wasn’t the first, nor the last, to make snarky remarks about FLOTUS’s gender.
Let’s not go crazy here, fellas.
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http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-05-17/tale-two-beautiful-women
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funny, as soon as i read the intro paragraph of this post, i envisioned a scenario in my head where a girl would say this to me and my guttural reply to her dull shiv was “it’s hard not to.” funny to see that reply in the post as well
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Hello, I’m having a problem with a girl(23. An 8.5 on a good day)I’ve started seeing a few months ago. She’s asked to move in and I’ve said no, but now she’s got this flatmate(girl)who’s a bit of a wreckhead. And when I say a bit I mean a lot of one. Now I’m concerned she may go off the rails because she’s impressionable around other girls. How do I deal with this? I like the girl a lot and she treats me like a king yet I really don’t want her to fuck her life up.
Anyway, at the moment I’m not saying much and keeping a distance when I’m not there. All I’ve said to her is that if she fucks up, I’ll fuck off, and she said to have faith. I want her to miss me so that she wants to spend her time with me going drinking, or bowling or to a market or wherever instead of putting drugs up her nose.(I’ll dabble in drugs now and then and I want girl to have taken fewer drugs than I have). As I say she seems very keen and it isn’t usual for me to care. She makes me really happy like only a couple of other women have done before, I’m in my late 20s and kids are something I may want soon. Could i be doing more here? My mates tell me that I’ve already won and need to relax, am I being paranoid?
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Let her move in and enjoy your time together. Hypergamy can work against men too.
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I can’t live with her yet and to be honest I’m glad of the reason why. It’s a bit too soon for me. She has asked if I’d move in 6 months(when her flatmate moves out)and maybe I will do if we keep things as good as they are now. 6 months is an epoch in relationship terms, however.
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BUN -> OVEN or else move on.
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PS: If you do put a bun in her oven, then you need to grow up fast. No more wimpy equivocating waffling indecisive pu$$y-a$$ed bull$hit out of you. She needs you to be the Sh!tlord of the Domicile. And she will also need her 0rgasms. Her 0rgasms complete her, they make her fully a woman. Concentrate on massaging her cl!t “just right.” And make sure that she gets a least three hard rounds of wrenching exhausting body-quaking multiple 0rgasms every week [e.g. Monday, Wednesday, and Friday, or similar].
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Concentrate on massaging her clit just right?
When I was a boy I used to think that playing with a woman’s clit would be a delicate, sensitive matter requiring a lot of time and attention and it wasn’t until I was older that I realised just how much like massaging a stain out of a carpet it is.
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Furthermore, do NOT move in with her UNLESS you’ve got BUN -> OVEN. Living together with no progeny is the height of purposeless meaningless n!hilism. Either man up & own this chick, or else move on. Personally, I vote for Making England Great Again.
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> “delicate, sensitive matter… massaging a stain out of a carpet…” ——— It varies dramatically from woman to woman. Some want just the very lightest of feathery touches, others need the industrial strength grinding. Similarly with e.g. a “3-per-week” schedule of hard f*ckings. Some women need days afterwards to recover – they literally walk bowlegged, because they’re in so much pain. But others are ready to go the next day.
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That’s why I say, “just right”. Possibly the most important aspect of owning her [and certainly the most important for the drudgery of daily life] is making her cum & cum & cum for you on a regular basis. And NEVER get all passive-aggressive & withhold the $exing with her. Stand your ground during the knock-down drag-out fights, and then f*ck her brains out of her ears afterwards.
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I’d wait and see if we could handle living together and then see about kids.
Even ideologically speaking I don’t see a need for lots of white babies. The white babies there are need to be as much as possible high quality babies from the good homes of responsible parents. I’m not a backer of mass-producing low gene, shit family, baby whites. Let’s just keep the brown people out.
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Hey, I tell you what is a good one for an angry girlfriend, captain: Lock her in the bathroom for a little fume. Time it just right she’ll be all over you like a rash, time it wrong and your eyes are forfeit. Either way it’s exciting.
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The white babies there are need to be as much as possible high quality babies from the good homes of responsible parents
Wrong-headed thinking. Whites need a social pyramid. For every k-selected White smartie we need ten White tow truck drivers and hotel cleaner girls. The enemy knows that, which is why they first target our working classes. In Western Europe, through direct demographic warfare. In Eastern Europe, by luring them out to fucking UK and Ireland.
The European gene pool is wide and deep enough to sustain this pyramid. What kills us is becoming a brain without a body.
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I have to disagree. I fear that the body alone is becoming almost useless to the economy – unless its prostitution – and we need to be selective or run the risk of being overwhelmed by the ever-increasing share of people unfit to do anything in the modern world. 40% of the country is a human surplus and it’s only going to get larger.
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They know that they can’t kill us through decapitation, which is why you see smart/educated Whites being sort of left-alone by PC; it’s the working class that is under attack. They know that if they cut off the head, our “body” will grow a new one. But if they hit the body, the head will wither away.
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“I’d wait and see if we could handle living together and then see about kids. Even ideologically speaking I don’t see a need for lots of white babies.” ——— Oh fer Chri$t’s sake, don’t start in on the n!hilism now. The question of whether you can “handle living together” will depend on: A) Your absolute Alpha Sh!lordery Reign-of-Terror in the domicile [to include making her cum & cum & cum for you on a regular basis], B) Whether she can clean up her act and quit doing the drugs, and C) Whether there is even a REASON for you to be living together in the first place, and the only valid reason for living together is PROGENY!!!!!.
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@PA Don’t let the politically correct take credit for that. They call themselves progressives and yet technical progress doesn’t much come from them and if you notice most engineers who vote for the left still aren’t fucking idiots. If you had to choose anybody from the left to work with you’d choose their engineers.
Anybody using their body for a living(or their brain if it’s not clever, clever work)is under massive pressure from technology and this is a thing apart from political correctness. And I don’t see the left as attacking the white working class so much as failing to defend them. The left is there to defend the weak and the poor only the white left is setting the interests of every other races weak and poor before its own.
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The left is there to destroy the White Race, destroy its culture [Western Civilization], and destroy its religion [the Shkotzim worship of the filthy b@stard traitor, Je#us of Nazareth].
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The nose candy is a problem though.
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But this is the “can we save them in the UK?” thread.
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Reading back through his description, it does feel like she is right on the precipice of being lost to the Whyte Race, as far as “mother-of-your-whyte-babeez-material” is concerned. Tough call. But personally, I’m tired of losing these chicks. On the other hand, substance addiction is an immediate disqualifier. He needs to flesh that out and know for certain what he’s dealing with – to include some heart-to-heart come-to-je$us discussions with her about substance abuse and whether she can clean up her act, once and for all.
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She’s alright at the moment, buddy, and I’ve said to her as much as I can say without her actually doing anything that wrong..
Drugs and mad living aren’t a problem and yet they could become one thanks to the new arrival. And it feels like I’m competing with the new arrival(who I actually quite like despite of her many, many faults)over Amelia’s soul. My protective instinct is burning white hot.
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UKIP, it sounds like you’re emotionally involved in this thing. Which is fine. But understand that you will win in the long run IF AND ONLY IF you grow up, grit your teeth, suck it up, and go implacable White Alpha Sh!tlord on these chicks. They don’t need nice, they don’t need affable, they don’t need friendly, they need rock-solid firm & erect White Alpha Sh!tlord.
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Haven´t read through this whole thread, because quite frankly I didn´t see the need after I noticed your “6 month is an epoch” remark.
Which was you(r subconscious) basically answering the question.
If you cannot comfortably see ahead more than 6 month with that chick, then she´s not the mother of your children, just a (very) accommodating cum-bucket.
Simple as that.
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“Nobody better to flatter” with amused mastery grin ™
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“…the least inbred Pakistani in England is more inbred than the typical European.”
you notice that the peeps importing these criminals are the first to accuse you of being inbred
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“Don’t flatter yourself!”
“I don’t have to. My women do it for me.”
Said with a grin and whatever “open body language” posture suits you best.
Laugh when she gapes in open-mouthed surprise.
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