Given the recent news of a discovery suggesting that Neanderthals may have been more advanced than previously thought, it’s time to revisit the possibility that Neanderthals were out-competed by proto-Sapien Cro-Magnons because the former were missing some valuable, survival trait other than intellectual horsepower.
We humans may have evolved to have tighter Game. Reader Feta explains:
I don’t know if this study has been discussed here before, but take a look if it has not:
“The Neanderthal correlation”
“No, I found that Neanderthals lacked genes linked to successful socialization and management skills. They could count perfectly well, but they couldn’t deal with groups. Socialization genes came from Sapiens”
Does this imply that alphas are the advanced “monkey” in the classic evolution pic? Betas/gammas usually are not bad with logic, but don’t fair well when it comes to “Sapiens characteristics” (i.e.,socialization)? If this is what the study says, then Game is an attempt to jump a great distance ahead in the evolutionary process.
Yes, that’s implied. When Neanderthals and Sapiens simultaneously occupied the same territories, it was the socially awkward beta nerdo Neanderthals who, despite their numeracy and great strength, succumbed to the Sapiens who had the tight Game (i.e., social skills) to form cooperative militias that could take out Neanderthals, monopolize their megafauna prey, and… wait for it… even bed Neanderthal women!
Game, far from being solely the primitive manipulations of sex-obsessed cads, was the next step in human evolution! Game can save species on the brink of extinction.
I like the coda to that article linked by Feta:
“You’re trying to tell me …” I said, but my mental censor blocked the idea.
“That human mathematical intelligence came from Neanderthals? That’s what the data say. The Cro-Magnons had the social skills. But that isn’t all.”
I stared at her. I couldn’t tell that to the research council.
As usual, she couldn’t read the warning look on my face. “The hybridization was successful in the Stone Age, but the environment has changed. I found that modern culture selects for socialization but against the Neanderthal traits for mathematics and intelligence,” she said, and looked down. “I don’t know how you’ll survive when our genes are gone.”
It’s possible then that Neanderthals picked up some beneficial “Game genes” from interbreeding with Cro-Magnons, but the intervention was too little too late to save them from the race annihilation we currently can see happening in Sweden, Britain, Germany and swaths of America.
Theory: too much sexual or cultural selection for Game genes will corrode the modern civilization that fewer Game genes helped create. When social savvy genes crowd out math and high impulse control genes… welp there go your highways, sewage treatment plants, and circuit boards.

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Neanderthals built mystery underground CIRCLES 175,000 years ago https://www.newscientist.com/article/2090183-neanderthals-built-mystery-underground-circles-175000-years-ago/
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> “I don’t know how you’ll survive when our genes are gone.” ——— I still can’t get over this story about the chick who wandered off the Appalachian Trail and couldn’t find her way back. Wandered around for two weeks trying to find a CELL PHONE SIGNAL: http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3434255/posts
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BTW, that chick who wandered off the Appalachian Trail friggin starved to death. In terms of chicks being social creatures who are utterly a-mathematical [at least when it comes to the visual-spatials], I was listening to the State Dept IG’s report about H!tlery Rotten Cl!tless’s Blackberries, and it struck me that the filthy psychopathic beeyotch already had a hopeless Blackberry Addiction before they even invented iPhag addiction.

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If we don’t get another 1859 Solar Event, to wipe out all this tech, then iPhag addiction [& its inevitable technological successors] could spell doom for the hyper-social personality type, since that personality can’t pull itself out of the addiction, and likely won’t have the time or the patience or the inclination to push out any live births. By contrast, the Amish must be rather Spergtardian [given their dogged devotion to Luddism], and their womynzes certainly don’t suffer from iPhag addiction.

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Is it possible, by studying the DNA, to find out if it was male neanderthal with female sapien, female neanderthal with male sapien, or a combination of the two? I ask this because, frankly, I wouldn’t be doing with a neanderthal woman.
This is intended to be a serious question, by the way.
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Our Y chromosome DNA is all sapiens.
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Neanderthals might not have looked the way museum artists portray them as looking.
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Squrrl
Not really. The blog “West Hunter” deals with these issues pretty well.
When enough generations have passed since the last hybidization event, any dis-advantageous trait tends to disappear from the genome.
Besides, the group that is totally extinct is pure cro magnons in the ancestoral lands of the Neanderthal. There is no one alive today who is native to Europe without some N. genetics.
And of course, there is zero N. genes in SS Africa.
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Do the Aboriginals of Australia have any Neanderthal DNA? How about the ‘tards in the marshes & swamps of Bangladesh?
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IIRC there were 2 separate interbreeding events between early humans and neanderthals. First upon leaving Africa (so this includes the Aboriginals of Australia as well as Asians and Europeans) and then again in Europe. So Europeans have the most N, then Asians and Australians, and like Rum said, Sub-Saharan Africans have none.
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My bad. Just read this on wikipedia (Neanderthal article):
“2016 research indicated that modern humans had three distinct interbreeding events with Neanderthals: the first encounter involved the ancestors of all non-African modern humans probably soon after leaving Africa; the second after the ancestral Melanesian group had branched off (and subsequently had a unique breeding event with Denisovans); and the third involving the ancestors of East Asians only.”
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we don’t know how much DNA we share with other hominid species/subspecies. with the present fossil evidence it’s believed that there were at least four living simultaneously, if not more. heilderbergensis, denisovans, neanderthalis, homo sapiens, floresiensis, at minimum.
we won’t know what the specific cocktail mixture is of the different races until we have DNA samples from these other species.
right now all we have to compare is sapiens and Neanderthal, but it’s most likely there are several others.
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Neanderthals have left neither intact Y-chromosomal lineages, nor intact mitochondrial DNA lineages. It’s not clear exactly what happened, only that no unbroken line of Neanderthals persists to the present.
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Says here your shit is fucked up and you talk like a fag.
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BRAWNDO- THE THIRST MUTILATOR!
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Interesting story, but the author lists it as “Science Fiction and Fantasy”.
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Forewarned is forearmed.
Let’s roll.
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I dunno about the whole bedding neanderthal chicks thing…..they look more appropriate for skinny betacuckfags. I’ll take a cute little cro-magnon babe myself.
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Competition is the very essence of the beginning of life. When a man ejaculates into the woman, the race is on for the strongest of sperm to make it into her egg and fertilize it.
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Sperm Wars…great book.
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“Game”, whether that be humor, verbal skills, or social dominance including climbing to the top the the dominance hierarchy is really just a proxy for intelligence. If the only thing that mattered from an evolutionary standpoint was physical prowess we would all be tall, good looking, young, and healthy. But if you are not, then you better have a backup plan.
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I wonder if, given a previous study saying we are still 4% neanderthal (I don’t know if this has been disproven) if that could have something to do with autism?
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This is holding up really well. The whole N. genome has been mapped. A lot more will probably become clear as the years go by. The 4% figure seems to be the high end. FWIW, the frozen corpse found in the Alps ~ 7,000 years old was 7%. That is fascinating on many levels. 7% is a lot.
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I’m very, very thal according to 23andme.
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I figured a lot out as soon as confirmation of the admixture came in. A lot of people had many of the same thoughts. Especially the ones (cough) who were born with red hair, blue eyes, and who instantly fell in love with Jaqui McShea of Pentangle.
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There was no bedding of Neanderthal women by sapien males, it was all rape. Sapiens in its purest form comes closest to modern africans. Yes more social but still dumb as a bag of flaming turd.
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The superbug that doctors have been dreading just reached the U.S. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/to-your-health/wp/2016/05/26/the-superbug-that-doctors-have-been-dreading-just-reached-the-u-s/
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It came from G00kland. The G00ks were narking up their swine on the only remaining antibiotic which could kill the bacteria, and so of course the G00kish swines’ bacteria developed resistance to the antibiotic.
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Game and high extroversion/socialization as you talk about comes froma third hominid. Neanderthal is the high IQ introvert. Sapiens the retarded extrovert and Melonheads the high IQ extrovert.
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Check out “Once I had a sweetheart” by Pentangle on youtube.
It is proof that Neanderthals made excellent music. At least back in the 60s.
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Full Question:
I am honestly confused as to what exactly are you asking of men who are known beta males to do? Obviously including myself in this distinction.
Everybody that isn’t drowning in libtard propaganda knows that high spatial and deontological reasoning is basically inversely correlated with social skills. But then why do you promote this sort of obligation for bona-fide beta males (estrogenic faces, relatively hairless, thin with little muscle, nasally voice, etc) to try and be “faux-alphas” when, in reality, women categorize you appropriately as a try-hard wanna be?
I think this is a pretty interesting and cool blog, but it just seems like in one post you’ll say “Look at this effeminate betaboy face” and other genetic determinants of male reproductive value, and then flip the script and tell these men to “man up” and promise them some sort of turnaround by adopting alpha traits?
Cliff Notes:
Why do you insist genetic determinism accounts for so much of beta male behavior, but then hold them personally responsible for their beta behavior?
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Nick
Go out into the woods with a gun and start killing animals. If the shot is not clean, and the thing is only wounded, and crying for its life… cut its throat while keeping your boot heel on its head.
Repeat.
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I don’t know what you’re getting at. Anyone got a real answer?
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The Neanderthals were a tribe of psychopaths. It’s why they lived so long and never accomplished much of anything. mtDNA for female Neanderthals doesn’t exist, that I know of, meaning the only way the Neanderthals bred with Sapiens is through raping Sap. Women. No one can stand to be around psychopaths for long they’re such evil shits. It’s why the Sapiens kicked their Neanderthal asses and pushed them out. The surviving remanent with the highest percentage of Neanderthal genes are the Jews. That’s why they hate all the Sapiens so much. They’re a different species. It’s also why they’re so psychopathic.
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That’s why they are good at math (they’re banksters, accountants, etc.), and act like parasites, destroying communities/countries from inside.
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When I signed up for the DNA testing, I had already figured out that I was very high N. And I was right.
Neanderthal pride!
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Of course, the Y chromosome from N. males does not exist in modern humans either.
Neither of us understand what that means.
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Neanderthals and Denisovans fascinate me! I had my own DNA tested by the National Geographic Society as part of their Geno 2.0 project, because they’re the only such project that will tell you not only how much of your DNA is Neanderthal, but also how much of it is Denisovan. I just had to know! My results show that I am 2.2% Neanderthal and 3.4 % Denisovan. The average percentage of each of these among project participants so far is 2.1% (and there are currently over 740,000 participants). This means that 5.6% of me is non-homo-sapien, or just slightly less than one great-great-grandparent. I like that!
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I just realized that left myself open to derisive comments accusing me of being an “Otherkin” weirdo. Um, well, at least these other hominids were our close relatives and were still capable of breeding with us, and they were probably on the same intellectual level as we are. I do have an IQ around 151 or 152, and I have been unusually physically strong during my entire adult life.
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CH, all Western cultures have between 1 and 3% Neanderthal genes. Note, Africans have no Neanderthal genes. Food for thought.
Also re “wait for it… even bed Neanderthal women!”. I have to politely disagree and say that it was more likely an ancient version of mudsharking. Women invite….and those well hung, twice Sapian size Neanderthals must have been a little tempting, ha.
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If you review the bonobo studies, as posted in Nature magazine, you will see that Africans are closely related to bonobo monkeys, not Europeans. This is why their DNA does not match ours. They are probably the results of some ancient genetic experimentation.
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I am at least 4% Neanderthal. My notch count is well passed my ability to remember.
What are you on about?
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Rum, I was tested using 23andme and came out in the 99 percentile with 3.3% according to them. This is supposedly quite normal for people with pure Celtic blood.
Neanderthals mixing with Homo heildelburgenis is what ended up creating Homo Sapiens so having a decent percent of caveman in you is a good thing.
Notch count, yes. I lost count by the time i was 20, just sayin.
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All of this is just more evolutionist b.s. Jack Cuozzo actually managed to get his hands on the Neanderthal skeletons, such as exist, and xray them. He also discovered that museums routinely show them with jaws dislocated to make them look ape like.
His conclusion after thorough examination and xrays – they are simple ordinary people who were hundreds of years old. Many parts of the body continue to grow in adulthood, and after hundreds of years can look a bit grotesque.
Buried Alive: The Startling Truth About Neanderthal Man by Jack Cuozzo
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Serious question: were the homo sapiens who interbred with Neanderthals alphas or betas? Neanderthals were not the most attractive. Did the alphas swap up all the Homosapien females, leaving the betas to get it on with the hairy troll women? There could be an evolutionary background impulse behind fatty fucking.
https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn26435-thoroughly-modern-humans-interbred-with-neanderthals/erious question: were the homo sapiens who interbred with Neanderthals
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Neanderthals had light skin and hair and blue and green eyes so rather than ugly if anything they were often a marked improvement on the sheboons the invading sapiens were used to. Some things never change.
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Muh genetic memory.
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Modern neanderthal-influenced phenotypes can learn Game better because they’re smarter and more adaptive, but they have to be taught. Homo sapiens sapiens are what we’d call “naturals” at irrational confidence; it is literally their only skill in life. In an atomized world with no long-term relationships between friends or family, it is the only skill that matters.
What anthropologists call “cro magnon” is the mixture of the original brutish cro magnon stock with neanderthals, which produced a hyperverbal race of geniuses who innovated like crazy but was strongly dysgenic due to the reasons given in the OP. Neanderthal genes have been dwindling ever since in favor of African genes, and with them the average cranial sizes have been shrinking.
Archaic intelligence is difficult to estimate, but I’ve personally constructed the following heuristic:
Brain size ~ nonverbal IQ
Group size ~ verbal IQ
Combined IQ ~ nonverbal IQ * verbal IQ
So we have:
Cro magnon/neanderthal mix (largest hominid brain, large group size) ~ high verbal * high nonverbal = Race of geniuses
Early cro magnon or modern homo sapiens sapiens (small brain, large group size) ~ high verbal * low nonverbal = Race of confidence men
Early neanderthal (huge brains, small group sizes) ~ low verbal * high nonverbal = Race of autistic savants
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My understanding is that Neanderthal men interbred with Homo Sapien women, not the other way around. Theres also skeletal evidence that the Neanderthals were cannibalized in the end, presumably by the hybrids they bore. Its somewhat similar to the shocking but sadly all too common stories of mixed-race children murdering their white mothers and white fathers.
Also, contrary to whats said in the comments here, its not Europeans who have the highest amount of Neanderthal DNA, at 3%. That would be our dear friends, The Eskimos, who have 4%. You might even wonder if the cause for their perpetual hostility towards us is because they dont even identify as the same species as us.
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