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The Impossibility Of Open Borders

June 14, 2016 by CH

It’s been said by others, but it’s worth reiterating here. Open borders are an impossibility. If you remove one border, two more, smaller, borders will be created in its place. It’s like the titular creatures from Gremlins. Spill water on one, and five more mogwai spawn.

The logic is inescapable. A big border protects a lot of smaller entities within the territory it rings. Abolish the big border, and small borders will organically arise to protect the smaller entities that were once protected as a whole behind one big umbrella border. Abolish the small replacement borders, and still smaller borders will be formed to protect the integrity of the multiplying units of partitioned entities and territories.

For real life examples of this phenomenon in action, see any gated community, school with metal detectors, or bulletproof glass-enclosed 7-Eleven check-out counter. If you remove the national border, the citizens will respond to their unwelcome vulnerability by erecting borders around that to which they can still control entry.

Open borders libertardians like Cheap Chalupas either are too stupid to understand this or, more likely, are too disingenuous to bother understanding. Perhaps for them, ensconced in the swaddle of their own leafy, 95% White, high trust suburban borders, the recursively multiplying, mitotically dividing, expanding universe of atomized borders and supporting Surveillance State machinery necessary in a Diversitopia are a feature instead of a bug. If that’s how they think, then here’s to hoping their cushioned principles are put to the test the best possible way: with swift and unremitting exposure to the reality of the borderless world they champion.

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  1. on June 14, 2016 at 12:56 pm whorefinder

    A country that does not enforce its borders is a country not long for this world.
    -Whorefinder the Magnificent

    Look at history rape!

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    • on June 14, 2016 at 1:41 pm Captain Obvious

      It really is tautological: Nation if and only if Borders.

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  2. on June 14, 2016 at 12:59 pm The Impossibility Of Open Borders | The Alt-Right View

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  3. on June 14, 2016 at 1:02 pm Roman Sitwell

    A chick with open borders is a personal slut, a nation with open borders is the worlds slut. The result in both cases, is an infected puss-filled bag of useless garbage.

    Diagnosis: Assured self destruction.

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    • on June 14, 2016 at 1:27 pm Canadian Friend

      No one respects a woman who opens her legs to just anyone, no respects a nation that opens its border for just anyone.

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    • on June 14, 2016 at 3:12 pm vfm#7634

      “I don’t care to belong to any club that will have me as a member.” –(((Groucho)))

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  4. on June 14, 2016 at 1:05 pm Captain Obvious

    > “It’s like the titular creatures from Gremlins. Spill water on one, and five more mogwai spawn.” ——— All by design, little padawan novitiate. All by design.

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    • on June 14, 2016 at 1:16 pm Captain Obvious

      > “with swift and unremitting exposure to the reality of the borderless world they champion” ——— Both Caesars Augustus & Tiberius were huge on banishment. According to legend, both Julia the Elder and Julia the Younger were banished [for licentiousness & f0rnications & adulteries] and starved to death.

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  5. on June 14, 2016 at 1:09 pm Canadian Friend

    Minutes ago I was at Google finance to take a look at the stock market, and in the main news, the main headlines what did I see?

    Obama denouncing NOT the muslims who murder innocent people No, Obama is denouncing Trump.

    because Trump wants less muslims around. and that is the real crime here.

    Muslims murdering innocents? that is not a problem,

    not liking muslims, not wanted millions of them in your nation? that is a HUGE problem.

    Liberals are dangerously insane, they must be stopped.

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    • on June 14, 2016 at 1:22 pm Captain Obvious

      The Eskimos have a saying about show bidness, “There’s no such thing as bad publicity.” If Li’l Barry Soebarkah Dunham makes the mistake of lashing out in anger, then he’s simply playing into The Master’s hand.

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      • on June 14, 2016 at 1:31 pm Canadian Friend

        Obama says Trump’s mindset is dangerous

        Obama did not say muslim’s mindset is dangerous.

        up is down, night is day

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      • on June 14, 2016 at 1:38 pm Canadian Friend

        Google finance just changed it to,

        “Trump says Obama puts enemies ahead of allies”

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      • on June 14, 2016 at 1:39 pm Captain Obvious

        The Master tempted him with a fight, and Li’l Barry Soebarkah Dunham foolishly took on the challenge. The Master was schooled in the real world; Li’l Barry Soebarkah was schooled in the Gramscian Cocoon of Anti-Reality. Real -versus- Anti-Real. Wanna place your bets, gentlemen?

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      • on June 14, 2016 at 2:38 pm Captain Obvious

        This morning I was talking with someone [whose opinion I respect], and we both agreed that there was a strong probability that Hillary Rotten Cl!tless’s people had already prepared the hard tack starboard, with the “Islamism” angle, after the San Bernardino massacre, and that they were simply waiting for another Mohammedean atrocity before they sent her to the podium to read the prepared remarks WHICH SHE HAD ALREADY BEEN REHEARSING. Otherwise you’d have to believe that they flash-polled a representative sample of the USA public, made the decision to abandon Obama, wrote a speech attacking “Islamism”, and gave it to her sufficiently far in advance for her to polish her delivery of it, all within the span of about 24 hours.

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      • on June 14, 2016 at 6:34 pm Barry

        (((Steven Hoffenberg))) behind Trumps super package a Ponzi…scheming sob

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    • on June 14, 2016 at 1:48 pm Unacknowledged_Legislator

      They have an aversion to reality. In fact, they reject reality.

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    • on June 14, 2016 at 1:56 pm Canadian Friend

      In France, a muslim has murdered the police chief and his wife while screaming Allahu Akbar

      QUICK!!! we must stop Trump from entering France!! Trump is DANGEROUS!!!

      http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/679557/Paris-hostage-situation-officer-killed-stabbing-wife-son

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      • on June 14, 2016 at 3:01 pm MZ

        Did you catch this at the bottom of that article:

        “Sorry, we are unable to accept comments about this article at the moment. However, you will find some great articles which you can comment on right now in our Comment section.”

        Hmm, not allowed to talk about it I guess.

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      • on June 15, 2016 at 3:10 am Libertardian

        MZ: Standard procedure, and like everything else the media does, idiotic. They’d be wiser to let people vent. Instead, people find other places – like this – to discuss not only the shitfest we’re in but – as they’ve now observed – the media’s complicity in it.

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  6. on June 14, 2016 at 1:17 pm Ryan C.

    Not completely correct. The most productive citizens have the ability to move. Moving is expensive, it means losing your social capital, and expending some financial capital. Mexico is a failed state. Traditionally this meant making it into a territory or sending in the marines to restore order (the Banana Republic doctrine).

    And to be fair, the start of the modern FBI came from interstate highway robbers.

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  7. on June 14, 2016 at 1:18 pm Haven M.

    they evil. like most evil people they think they good for serving an evil master.

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    • on June 14, 2016 at 1:37 pm Captain Obvious

      This is a strange, strange psychological weakness which the Eskimo Psychiatrists spotted in the traitors of the White Race.

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  8. on June 14, 2016 at 1:37 pm Derzu Uzala

    Free market capitalism is corrosive of social order. Whenever you consider the price of labor and land as above any other societal consideration, you and your society are doomed. It is simple, if greed only guides companies then borders are obstacles to profits.

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    • on June 14, 2016 at 2:03 pm Unacknowledged_Legislator

      No, multinationals (special interest) leveraging captured poltico’s worked out a bunch of deals that stifle competition, distort markets and capital formation. We refer to it as crony-capitalism (Fascism) , corporatism and the ensuing artifact(s) of globalism. As someone once remarked on ZH: what was once a dog eat dog world has now become a rat eat rat world.

      And I worked on the border fence (DHS) Program. Not sure where our $5B (billion) went…sure didn’t do anything. Trump is right on this one: its completely dysfunctional: immigration policy.

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  9. on June 14, 2016 at 1:47 pm Derzu Uzala

    Whenever you consider to import goods and services from abroad and above any other consideration, you open your borders to a much more subversive process: you are allowing foreign labor and skill to slowly replace yours. Not seen immigrants in your homeland is not enough.

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  10. on June 14, 2016 at 1:50 pm Ironpusher

    I saw some new polls today claiming Trump’s support with white males is at 58%. 58%!!! Unfuckingbelievable!!!! The other 42% should be thrown in an oven. 1 in 3 registered beaners are voting for Trump after he called them murderers, rapists, and promised to deport their cousins because they know he is their only chance of living in a prosperous white nation.

    Apparantly half of the white “men” in this country couldn’t vote in support of their own self interest if someone put a gun their head and told them to check the Trump box.

    UNBELIEVABLE!!!!

    [CH: i have a hard time believing that poll number. defies credulity and prior polls showing much stronger white man support.]

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    • on June 14, 2016 at 2:26 pm vfm#7634

      Are you sure they didn’t count beaners as whites in those “polls”?

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      • on June 14, 2016 at 2:31 pm oink

        well, obviously. common guys, this goes without saying.

        I remember how DT was no way going to get 1260 delegates.

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    • on June 14, 2016 at 3:03 pm Ironpusher

      @vfm

      It’s possible, I got it from politico. They’ve went into full Clinton propaganda mode since she cinched up the nomination.

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    • on June 14, 2016 at 3:36 pm Coldwarvet

      I believe this. Almost all of my male relatives would never consider voting for Trump. Most of my male acquaintances feel the same way. The stupid is strong with these people. This is what you get with decades of brainwashing by the cathedral, coupled with the complete paralysis of rational thought brought on by the forces of P.C. and the penalty of excommunication from polite society for deviating one millimeter from what the official narrative on every controversial subject. People are effen’ sheep, plain and simple.

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      • on June 14, 2016 at 4:35 pm Captain Obvious

        Sounds like you need to start Evangelizing them with Truth Speak, Preacher Man. It’s now or never…

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    • on June 14, 2016 at 6:37 pm Amasius

      Remember that America never would have gotten in this situation in the first place if we weren’t profoundly fucked-up. If we’re going to get back on track, we need a drastic change of mindset– a White man’s Great Awakening.

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  11. on June 14, 2016 at 2:00 pm TLM

    O’s last FU to the white man is destroying those economic borders that have kept the shitskins from invading the gated and more affluent suburbs. A New Urbanism development close to me which integrates a mix of residential and commercial functions into the same development, just like core city neighborhoods did when they were built a century or more ago, is about to get its first Section 8 free shit army occupants this Fall. This place sprang up a few years ago, full of beautiful homes, boutiques, wine bars, etc except it’s in the middle of suburbia. Place is overpriced with none or very few of the smaller homes going for less than 500k (That’s a lot for my area). This place is SWPL heaven. Our liberal mayor coordinated with O’s ‘affordable housing’ initiative to establish a flea beach-head smack in the middle of this development. The white owners are just thrilled!!!

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    • on June 14, 2016 at 2:12 pm Some Guy

      O’s last FU to the white man is destroying those economic borders that have kept the shitskins from invading the gated and more affluent suburbs

      ‘Bout damn time. Let’s hope Westchester and Marin counties are the very first to get hit. They’ve been voting to ram this shit down the throats of working class whites for years.

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      • on June 14, 2016 at 2:45 pm Captain Obvious

        Sooner or later, the non-Eskimo White Sh!tlib Traitors will have to reconcile the underlying contradiction in their pseudo-Religion of sub-human worship: If muds & nogs & mystery meats are such wonderful people, then why are you living [and schooling your chillunzes] in a mono-racial SWPL Whiteopia? Why don’t you go down to Beantown or Bananatown or Shitistantown and commune with the vibrants?

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      • on June 16, 2016 at 12:07 am Moses

        Oh God yes, put Section 8 in Marin and the Marina. Love to see shitlibs grappling with the consequences of their virtue signaling.

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      • on June 16, 2016 at 12:18 am Moses

        Sooner or later, the non-Eskimo White Sh!tlib Traitors will have to reconcile the underlying contradiction in their pseudo-Religion of sub-human worship: If muds & nogs & mystery meats are such wonderful people, then why are you living [and schooling your chillunzes] in a mono-racial SWPL Whiteopia?

        Was driving near downtown Dallas with my dad and sister who lives in an ultrawhite and wealthy area of Washington State. Lots of “Bail Bond” places around. Sister remarked on it, Dad said “Yes well there are a lot of Mexicans around here.”

        My SJW sister jumped down his throat. His comment revealed how he really thinks but he immediately backpedaled like cucks do. I said “Yeah dad you like diversity so much you live in an all white area.” That shut him up but I still think he didn’t get it.

        But still, the event showed me the chokehold that lefties have on acceptable public discourse. We avoid talking politics, but I just know my pops will vote for Hillary for 2 reasons: 1) he’s a senior and wants them gubment goodies to keep on coming, and 2) he buys the leftie frame and fears being called a “racist.”

        I’m concerned Hillary’s new “racist Donald” attack line will fool enough whites like my dad to vote against their group interests that Donald may be in trouble.

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      • on June 16, 2016 at 7:02 am Captain Obvious

        M, you have got to Evangelize your Dad in Truth Speak. Do not let him pass out of this world with his soul still subservient to The Darkness. Preach a Gospel of Light to him.

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      • on June 16, 2016 at 7:03 am Captain Obvious

        Also, see if you can’t set your SJW sister up with a White Alpha Sh!tlord who can smack some Common Sense into her.

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  12. on June 14, 2016 at 3:47 pm Ripp

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    • on June 14, 2016 at 5:54 pm Ironpusher

      That sure is a beautiful wall ya got there!

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      • on June 15, 2016 at 6:50 am oink

        !

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    • on June 15, 2016 at 6:23 am oink

      should say 2020.

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    • on June 15, 2016 at 6:23 am oink

      assume the sale rape

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  13. on June 14, 2016 at 4:13 pm Song For the Deaf

    You can’t have unlimited immigration and a welfare state.

    -Milton Friedman

    Giving them welfare and healthcare is the problem. It incentivizes their crossing. They place a massive burden on public services that they pay no taxes for, to the tune of $40 billion per year. Then they turn around and send $20 billion worth of remittances to family in Mexico. Illegal immigrant remittances are the second largest source of cash in the Mexican economy, after oil.

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    • on June 15, 2016 at 7:06 am jackmcg

      I can’t believe I used to buy this libertarian jew bullshit. Non-whites are the problem, not a well-meaning social safety net.

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      • on June 15, 2016 at 6:08 pm Song For the Deaf

        Libertarianism has nothing to do with it. The well-meaning social safety net is a prophylactic against their assimilating. It allows them to live here on their own terms without having to adopt American behavioral norms to succeed.

        Immigrants 100 years ago didn’t have a state-sponsored safety net. They had to rely on mutual aid societies and churches, and they had to assimilate to American mores or perish. Or move back to the old country – little known fact about 19th-20th century immigration is that almost as many immigrants went back to Europe after failing here. The welfare state means none of them have to go back after failing here. And their anchor-baby-cum-politicians are treating the welfare state as if they had a right to it.

        You can’t have unlimited immigration and a welfare state. It’s a recipe for disaster it’s been tried.

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      • on June 16, 2016 at 9:26 am jackmcg

        You can’t have unlimited immigration, period. A safety net is fine but immigrants should be banned from making use of it for a decade or two… problem solved.

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  14. on June 14, 2016 at 4:19 pm Song For the Deaf

    We should (and hopefully the Donald will) demand Mexico pay for the services we provide their citizens. Cheap labor ain’t cheap: after accounting for the free welfare, health care, public schooling and prisons, none of which they contribute taxes to, they wind up costing the American taxpayer $40 billion per year.

    Then they turn around and send $20 billion in remittances back to family in Mexico. We should be seizing that money to pay for their upkeep. Illegal immigration is nothing but a massive wealth redistribution scheme on Mexico’s part and they’re laughing at us for falling for it.

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  15. on June 14, 2016 at 5:05 pm Southern Man

    I’ve got ten acres of unimproved land that I’m slowly but surely improving. Got a barn up, finally got electricity…no well yet, though. And do you know what I want out there more than anything? A fence. Eight feet high, wrought iron, spiky and hard to climb, all around that property. If you gave me a choice between that fence and a house out there, I’d take the fence.

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    • on June 15, 2016 at 10:03 am Kobe Beef

      Go with a minefield..

      But keep on, Southern Man, keep on. Yours are the hands of God.

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  16. on June 14, 2016 at 5:30 pm Sorcerygod

    The liberal is banking on a gradualized taming of the more savage impulses of the nonwhite immigrants.

    I should be upfront here: I like savagery and barbarism. If I had my way, I’d have an all-white society with all the arts & letters and techno-toys of civilization, but all the barbarism and cruelty of an undeveloped society.

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    • on June 14, 2016 at 5:55 pm Corvo

      View post on imgur.com

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  17. on June 14, 2016 at 6:03 pm Reb

    This gives me get another idea. And it is way too far out there to ever see implementation but…. Trump is indeed a genius negotiator. What if he could convince some of the more liberal parts of the country that they can let whomever in they want, but the surrounding areas could pit up as much security, build actual walls, have the strictest immigration policies etc imaginable?? And build the wall, that is given.

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    • on June 14, 2016 at 6:28 pm Song For the Deaf

      Or:

      -Take a national poll to gauge popular support/opposition to immigration, with the caveat that zip codes with the highest percentage of votes in favor of it should have to allow immigrant housing in their neighborhoods.

      -Require all those who support immigration to pay higher taxes to subsidize the strain it places on public resources. No more liberal virtue signaling via being charitable with other people’s money.

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  18. on June 14, 2016 at 6:36 pm tanabear

    For those that believe in open borders, does this mean that white Americans can move to Mexico and live off the Mexican taxpayers they same way Mexicans do to Americans?

    When a politician says that they support migrant rights does this include the rights of white Americans to move unobstructed to a Latin American country and receive welfare?

    I haven’t heard this possibility addressed by “open border” advocates.

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    • on June 14, 2016 at 6:52 pm Song For the Deaf

      Mexico’s rulers are perfectly aware that their society has rendered Mexico an undesirable place for Americans to live and that’s how they want it. Because Mexico’s a beautiful country with a lot of natural resources and the last thing they want is wealthy white people moving in.

      It’s not just fear of American dollars taking over – their society is racist to the core and far more virulently so than America is. The illegals we get from them are mostly the Indians at the bottom of Mexico’s racial hierarchy. Which is why Donald was right when he said they weren’t sending us their best people – Mexico’s rulers were all up in arms about that comment, calling him a racist, but those racists themselves used to laugh at us for taking in their Indians before he made those comments.

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      • on June 14, 2016 at 10:20 pm Reb

        But we have nukes.

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      • on June 14, 2016 at 11:16 pm Exurban

        Oh yeah. Even token Latino NPR mascots will admit that if they’re in the mood.

        Ruben Navarette – Mexican Elites Secretly Agree With Donald Trump

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  19. on June 14, 2016 at 6:37 pm Song For the Deaf

    Truth is, we don’t need to build a wall, we just need to enforce the laws we already have. But we don’t do that because anchor babies in this country grow up to become fifth columnist politicians who turn their local areas into sanctuary cities (Buenos Dias, Antonio Villaraigosa!) with free public services for illegals. They’re even trying to give illegals the right to vote in local elections now.

    Make no mistake, Mexican-American politicians are a fifth column. They’re absolutely trying to colonize the southwest, per popular Mexican belief that it belongs to Mexico (60% of Mexicans believe this).

    The first thing Donald needs to do is put an end to anchor babies. There’s no excuse for them anymore, not when all our immigration comes from a contiguous country as opposed to from across the Atlantic. And white people need to wake up to the concerted effort being made to revert California to their third world homeland.

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  20. on June 14, 2016 at 6:45 pm Song For the Deaf

    The liberal’s own welfare policies are the single biggest impediment to these peasants’ assimilation. That and the Mexican government, which understands that assimilation to the US means less attachment to the Old Country and less cash in remittances. They’re actively working to prevent illegals from assimilating, including putting education curricula in California schools designed to breed a nationalistic attitude vis-a-vis the Old Country, which has never done anything for them, and resentment towards America/whites, which have given them everything they have.

    If Americans knew how the Mexican government was manipulating all of this, there’d be a war.

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    • on June 14, 2016 at 10:23 pm Reb

      That is a good point. What has Mexico done for Mexicans??

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  21. on June 14, 2016 at 10:22 pm cortesar

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ck8Ta3QWEAAI1BW.jpg:large

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