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‘Zero Fucks Given’ Is An Inherently Attractive Male Trait To Women

June 17, 2016 by CH

In a CH post about older men’s advantages in the sexual market, frequent sex difference and Game denialist wolfie65 avers,

There are VERY few things in this world that actually do get better with age.
High quality wine (if you like that sort of thing), high quality cheese (to a point), things made very well from high quality wood, like musical instruments or furniture.
People are not one of those things.

Generally true, past a certain age. But that threshold age from youthful to old is different for men and women. Most men aesthetically peak around 29-30 and stay there well into their late 30s. For women, their physical peak happens somewhere between the late teens and early 20s, and doesn’t stay there long.

Men who lift weights and don’t bloat up can look quite dashing to the majority of women well past their 30s. Women who lift and stay slender will keep their sexual worth longer as well, but not nearly as long as in-shape men keep theirs. So the adage that one should strike while the iron is hot is more germane to a woman’s romantic fortunes.

If men over 30 have any advantages in the dating market, they are:
1) MONEY – Very few younger men have any money worth bragging about and da wimminz do LOVELOVELOVE da moolah, all polls to the contrary.

Sure, women love da moolah, but it takes a LOT of moolah to activate a woman’s love programming. Merely being in the top quintile of SES won’t cut it. The entrance fee for unlimited access to poonworld rides is seven figures in the expensive shitlib cities. Given that most men boffing cute girls have nowhere near seven figures, it stands to reason that, although money may be a powerful attractant once accumulated over a very high amount, it’s a rather weak attractant below that number. Other, more important, factors contribute to a man’s success with women.

2) Social status – Very few younger men (athletes, rock stars) have the kind of ss women are looking for, their mostest favoritest sport being social climbing.

Younger men who aren’t musicians or athletes can accrue social status through sheer force of personality. If you make yourself the life of the party, women will notice. And, always worth reminding recalcitrant readers, BOLDNESS is itself a sign of a man’s social status. If you approach girls uncompromisingly, they will adorn you with a higher status than you would otherwise have had if you stayed in your little corner staring at them lustily.

The ZFG part is more something that benefits you, the guy, internally, as it makes failure easier to deal with.

ZFG does more, far more, than simply make courtship failure easier for a man to deal with, (specifically which in Game terminology is called “outcome independence”). Zero Fucks Given is an ATTITUDE, expressed manifold ways through a man’s words, behavior, and body language, that women have FINELY TUNED VAJDAR for recognizing, because it is in women’s DARWINIAN INTERESTS to hook up with and fall hard for men whose attitude suggests they could TAKE OR LEAVE those women. This kind of man is desirable BECAUSE he acts like he’s desirable. And desirable men have OPTIONS, which they show by never bending over backwards to appease or impress any one woman.

It’s not something she’s going to pick up on at da club, not even with her magical powers of ‘female intuition’ ESP………

Yes, she is. This is the gripe of someone who hasn’t been in a heated sex market arena in a long time. No ESP required. Women have a sense originating at the nexus of their hindbrains and tingling pussies for which men are high value, just like men have a sense originating at the nexus of their hindbrains and boners for which women are high value. Men react instinctively to the sight of a beautiful, height-weight proportionate young woman. Women react equally instinctively to the company of a masculine, devilishly charming, self-confident, ZFG man.

The sexual market is the prime market exactly because its machinations are governed by instinct instead of by considered forethought. It’s hard to undermine human instinct, though our Equalist Overlords are doing their level best to do just that.

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  1. on June 17, 2016 at 3:34 pm Captain Obvious

    “pick up on at da club………” ——— You can’t “talk” in a club, because no one can hear anything over the speakers blaring away at 120 dB. So your options are what? 1) Staring game. 2) Kino game, to include the hand-in-the-small-of-the-back [bonus points if you can maneuver her loins around to your loins]. 3) Almost grotesque rudeness – to demonstrate ZFG or maybe more at demonstrating outright Dark Triad.

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    • on June 17, 2016 at 3:40 pm Captain Obvious

      All the clever repartee which verbally-oriented PUAs obsess about is simply useless in the modern “club” scene. And arguably it’s becoming useless in most restaurants – I was told that restaurants now jack up the volume on their sound systems to make the noise so loud that the dining experience becomes intolerable for their customers, which convinces the customers to pay their bills and leave, thereby opening up the table to yet more customers and increasing turnover. Anyway, in these deafening environments, your Game will have to amount to your facial expressions & your body language & your kino.

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      • on June 17, 2016 at 3:45 pm Captain Obvious

        So then the question becomes: How does Marcel Marceau convince the ladies in the audience of his ZFG Dark Triad bona fides?

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      • on June 17, 2016 at 3:58 pm Captain Obvious

        Somehow Marceau has to figure out how to add a little Max Schreck or Klaus Kinski to his routine. But it can’t be “creepy”. A sense of danger, but not of creepiness…

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      • on June 17, 2016 at 4:32 pm Captain Obvious

        In terms of “Dangerous but NOT Creepy”, for NYC-area chicks, you’re talking Pacino in “The Godfather”, whereas for flyover-country chicks, it would be more at Sheen in “Badlands”.

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      • on June 18, 2016 at 8:04 am Tam the Bam

        That’s why they’re all sat opposite each other across the table, texting furiously. Eye contact not welcome, either.

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      • on June 18, 2016 at 8:52 am Captain Obvious

        Okay, now that’s an interesting theory. Txt-ing the beeyotch over on the other side of the disco because it’s too loud to talk to her? But how do you get her number in the first place? For that to work, some sort of a furious raging sociological phone-number hierarchy* would have to be spawned within the local milieu of club-go-ing.

        *To include ladder climbing, kicking the base out of the ladder, “false” ladders placed at the wrong window, refusal of the ladder merchant to sell you the ladder in the first place, loaning out broken ladders which are destined to fail, etc etc etc…

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      • on June 18, 2016 at 8:58 am Captain Obvious

        And then maybe within a large disco, you’d have a bunch of discontiguous phone number hierarchies – the rich kidz, the nerds, the jocks, the artsy-craftsies, the goths, etc etc etc? Like that infamous network of f0rnications at “Jefferson High School”?

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      • on June 18, 2016 at 9:08 am Captain Obvious

        > “Eye contact not welcome, either.” ——— But this just kills any hope for classical Game. No eye contact wipes out “Staring Game” and “Body Language Game”, and any sort of goofing around & teasing Game. No eye contact is the Death of meatspace and wetworld [and bunz in the ol’ oven]. Plus if she’s sitting in a booth while txting, then you can’t even get close enough for “Kino Game”. I feel for you dudes who are trying to get laid within an anti-human milieu like that. Y’all oughta try Day Game.

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    • on June 17, 2016 at 4:09 pm vfm#7634

      One thing that helps in noisy venues is to keep in mind that it doesn’t matter what words are spoken.

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      • on June 17, 2016 at 4:35 pm Captain Obvious

        Well ZFG solves that problem – who the F*ck Cares what the beeyotch has to say – right? But if you’re a verbally-oriented serpents-forked-tongue semantics-driven PUA, then you’ve gotta switch gears to something utterly non-verbal in these 120dB environments. Working hard to improve your facial expressions & your body language and whatnot.

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    • on June 18, 2016 at 9:44 am trav777

      I been in da club a zillion times. Used to make out with different chicks every week.

      Look…jfc, do the people who say this crap ever like actually GET any women?

      You ask them…they’ll tell you “i got wet by looking at you.”

      women can TELL…they can read and sense the posture, the movement, all of those things that men don’t notice, women do. They know who is who pretty much all the time.

      If there’s one man holding court and garnering the respect of other men in a group, she will think the one man is sexy if asked. Posture is important, the way you “carry yourself,” your “swagger.”

      Spergs do not see these things nor notice them, boop beep boop does not compute. Emotional analog women do. Not a logic function.

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      • on June 18, 2016 at 9:50 pm streetsweeper

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      • on June 19, 2016 at 7:52 pm Vagina dominator

        I’ve now reached a point in the way I watch tv shows or movies that I have massively down-rated what characters are saying while increasing the amount of conscious attention I give to actors’ carriage, posture, physical energy, etc.

        I have found that these physical attributes tell almost everything you need to know about the ideology and power/dominance relations of the show, which of course is the real, intended message.

        Subconsciously, we all pick up on and absorb these messages because we know that words can be lies but the body reveals the truth.

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    • on June 18, 2016 at 1:37 pm Haven M.

      I dunno about you, but “pick up on at da club” is more about using table bottle service to get the fuck away from the riff raff and have hsotesses bring chicks to you.

      Roosh and co made the point that otherwise its a douche off with a ratio of 100-1 boys to girl.

      or you can watch the pua con jobs sarge through the crowd.

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      • on June 18, 2016 at 3:32 pm Captain Obvious

        > “have hsotesses bring chicks to you” ——— Okay, expound on that idea.

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      • on June 18, 2016 at 7:01 pm Haven M.

        It’s dropping $3K a night and have some blow game.

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  2. on June 17, 2016 at 3:55 pm Mahdi

    Charisma can be viewed as a particular combination of strength and warmth. Women can’t really pull it off because they’re expected to be warm/caring, and any effort to display strength will disproportionately reduce their warmth.

    In men, warmth without strength = beta. The ideal combination is one of high strength, with flashes of unexpected warmth. Oscillating one’s warmth randomly – without ever going all-out except for the briefest glimpse – while maintaining one’s strength maximizes female responsiveness.

    One example from way before I fully understood the finer aspects of game – I was in another city, hanging out with a couple of buddies at a sidewalk table outside a coffee shop, tossing out random questions to the attractive college girls walking by (“Hey, do you think there will ever be peace in the Middle East?” “Excuse me, do you think women’s hats will ever make a comeback?” The more random, the better – and EVERY PAIR OR GROUP OF ATTRACTIVE WOMEN laughed and lingered and engaged with us), when one particularly beautiful 19-year-old who sat down with us asked, as we were joking around, what kind of guy I was. I flicked the switch to dead serious, looked her deeply in the eyes, and said “my honor and integrity is everything to me. I will never sell out. I will never let down someone I love.” I paused for a moment, still staring into her eyes, then turned to one of my buddies and made a joke. Out of the corner of my eye I saw continuing to stare at me; her face flushed and her breathing increased to the point she was almost panting.

    This girl literally transferred to a college across the country so she could be near me.

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    • on June 17, 2016 at 4:00 pm Captain Obvious

      > “This girl literally transferred to a college across the country so she could be near me.” ——— ???

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      • on June 17, 2016 at 4:11 pm Mahdi

        Heh – she was half Filipina; gorgeous, wild in bed, intelligent, deferential, but not what I was looking for long-term.

        Don’t worry, though – I did even better after her.

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      • on June 17, 2016 at 4:39 pm Captain Obvious

        Dude, you must have completely broken that little g00kette’s heart.

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      • on June 17, 2016 at 5:13 pm Mahdi

        You know what, CO? I’m pretty sure I did. I’m not proud of that.

        I got better at leaving women a little bit better than they were when I found them after that.

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      • on June 17, 2016 at 7:15 pm Parachutist

        You forgot to put a Jew star on that belly, CO. We all know about your Sneetches fetish, enough hinting around it.

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      • on June 18, 2016 at 8:42 am Captain Obvious

        Dude! Somebody in the JIDF is breaking the Sabbath!!! Yitzhak Yosef & David Lau are gonna be very, very disappointed in you. PS: Say hello to Tamir Pardo for us!!!

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    • on June 17, 2016 at 4:12 pm Hackett To Bits

      https://www.google.com/search?q=bun+in+oven&prmd=isvn&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjT94rsibDNAhVGOSYKHZm-C2MQ_AUICCgB&biw=320&bih=460#imgrc=QNiKhC404mQHDM%3A

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    • on June 17, 2016 at 5:10 pm oink

      I appreciate the heads up.

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    • on June 22, 2016 at 4:26 pm Man With No Name

      “This girl literally transferred to a college across the country so she could be near me.”

      Sure pal, sure. Your post reads exactly from the bs postings one would read in the 1990s on fastseduction.com – or a Ross Jeffries newsletter.

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  3. on June 17, 2016 at 4:13 pm rugby11

    “Younger men who aren’t musicians or athletes can accrue social status through sheer force of personality. If you make yourself the life of the party, women will notice. And, always worth reminding recalcitrant readers, BOLDNESS is itself a sign of a man’s social status. If you approach girls uncompromisingly, they will adorn you with a higher status than you would otherwise have had if you stayed in your little corner staring at them lustily.

    The ZFG part is more something that benefits you, the guy, internally, as it makes failure easier to deal with.”

    Very true

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    • on June 18, 2016 at 11:06 am Benjamin

      Not to mention, you can obtain social status within a community. Social status isn’t synonymous with ‘world famous’.
      You can be the ‘leader’ of a group of friends, can become a specialist in something that other people look up to, or just be well-known among people you know as a guy who gets a lot of girls.

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  4. on June 17, 2016 at 4:58 pm Radagast

    Wolfie a few years ago I used to ride around in a fucking white minivan with no money and no social status in a college town where I was considered old. When girls would make fun of the minivan I’d smile and say shit like “I got this to keep stalkers away but apparently it doesn’t work” or “I drive this to compensate for my tiny dick.” That van was a fucking advantage after that, never slowed me down in the field. There were plenty of other good looking guys around, much richer guys around, much more popular guys around. I was swimming in HB8’s and 9’s. The only clear advantage I had was a charming personality, height, and most importantly a ZFG vibe.

    Young women will make excuses for all of the other shit you’re talking about just to be with you if you are simply alpha in demeanor.

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    • on June 17, 2016 at 5:26 pm mendo

      Minivan game cannot be beat. Besides, easier to bones chicks with all that extra cargo room.

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      • on June 18, 2016 at 12:36 pm Corvo

        [img]http://i.imgur.com/WdAsVXM.jpg[/img]

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      • on June 18, 2016 at 12:37 pm Corvo

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    • on June 17, 2016 at 8:11 pm uh

      Height he says.

      Had the white minivan in a small city here. Lived behind a coffee shop that catered to high school & college girls from the next city. Worked prettty well after installing the blue Christmas lights.

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  5. on June 17, 2016 at 6:13 pm whorefinder

    No fucks given or zero fucks given?

    Aspiring rape artists need to know!

    Choice of words rape!

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  6. on June 17, 2016 at 6:44 pm Barnabas

    Money may not buy love but it can buy a nice car and motorcycle, clothes, travel, and interesting hobbies. Its possible to be a rich schlub but money makes people more interesting.

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    • on June 18, 2016 at 11:14 am Benjamin

      You look at a guy with a nice BMW and think he’s interesting? Money doesn’t make people more interesting any more than their cool Instagram pictures do. It’s a charade.

      Money provides opportunity. What you do with that opportunity is what makes you interesting.

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  7. on June 17, 2016 at 6:53 pm Joseph Coces

    Based on my own experience, I disagree with your assessment concerning women’s ability to evaluate a man’s worth based on ZFG.
    I’m a very, very much ZFG kind of guy. Yet, I don’t feel any sort of attraction budding up in women before a few minutes of conversation at best when I approach them.

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    • on June 18, 2016 at 11:30 am Benjamin

      Maybe you don’t openly show it and it takes a few minutes or more for women to figure out you are ZFG. Maybe you aren’t as ZFG as you think. Maybe your particular attitude comes off as arrogant instead. Also, no one particular trait is 100% guaranteed to attract every girl to every guy.

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    • on June 18, 2016 at 12:55 pm Captain Obvious

      > “I don’t feel any sort of attraction budding up in women” ——— JC, women are notoriously horrible at sensing your true worth. You have to lay clues for them – clues which the Hamster can pick up on. Some chicks are so clueless that you have to go totally down-market & ribald & vulgar & even obscene on them. [Which is a pretty good filter for the chicks you do NOT want to get involved with – if they’re incapable of picking up on any subtleties whatsoever.] Way up above here, I’m talking about “Staring Game” & “Body Language Game” for these kinds of situations.

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      • on June 18, 2016 at 1:01 pm Captain Obvious

        > “before a few minutes of conversation at best” ———- But those few minutes of conversation are precisely your “DHV” – that’s where you shine. So either work on your non-verbals [like that “Al Pacino Stare” from The Godfather], or else just be yourself and maneuver your way into situations where you can make the best use of your strengths [which apparently are your conversational skills]. http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=DHV

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  8. on June 17, 2016 at 6:54 pm Ripp

    “although money may be a powerful attractant once accumulated over a very high amount,”

    Money is not a key success factor in game. Here in SoCal there are endless amounts of men with 7+ figures and tons of time…but they couldnt charm a fat blue hair no matter the price. And the social status they think they have with bottle service and over priced watches can be one upped in seconds by a charming cad.

    That being said, money helps, but there are differenet echelons. And these days its better to hide your wealth.

    1) there is too much of a supply of acceptable looking ‘money game’ suitors that have no personality. Women find it boring.

    2) plenty of women make enough to have their own place, car and stupid clothes. excess money or money talk is boring.

    3) if you have 7+ figures it works against you. the subject will either hold out sex to ensnare you into LTR resources or will become a quick hooker for hire. there is plenty of forum talk about this. rich guys in LA who have to hire $5k a night escorts just so they can feel human.

    Personality. Attitude. Charisma. Trumps all.

    And getting old for men is awesome. Lift, cook at home, cut cable, read, do hobbies and shit, and give anyone who drains your life a -fuck you’ and dont look back.

    There is lne guy however who has billions, and game. Our next Presdient, Donald Trumpenfurher

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    • on June 17, 2016 at 6:59 pm Ripp

      *correction to item #3: “flaunting” and exhibiting your million $ wealth as your game angle, works against you. Women hear men money talk so often…

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      • on June 18, 2016 at 10:58 am The Rebbe

        Women, who are now our cutthroat job market competitors, are jealous of men with $$, but that’s too redpill for even the most RealTalk to handle. Talking about ur $$ just makes your HR manager date insecure, angry, and want to be your hooker/goldigger (not your loving idealistic wife).

        The exception are traditional women and, surprisingly, teenage girls, who aren’t in the job market or yet jaded by 7-fig men soliciting them. You’ll ping their Prince Charming fantasy. Notable that Jerry Seinfeld, at his peak, dated a 16-year old. Predictably, they broke up when her yenta careerist/screwaround fantasies materialized and she left him to chase http://www.shoshanna.com/shop/about-shoshanna.

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  9. on June 17, 2016 at 7:13 pm Barnabas

    What you are really talking about when you say “flaunting” your money is try-hardness and demonstrating insecurity. Its the opposite of ZFG. You could turn any positive into a negative that way.

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  10. on June 17, 2016 at 7:40 pm Corvo

    File under: Making America Great Again!

    Dropping by with a quick note to share the news that today my fourth child (third son) was born.

    I remember the morning last fall; I was reading CH and sipping coffee when my wife tip-toed up to tell me that I had another bun in the over.

    Life is good.

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    • on June 17, 2016 at 8:48 pm Vagina dominator

      Congratulations. Kids are great.

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    • on June 17, 2016 at 8:51 pm Captain Obvious

      “O Lord, Save Thy People”

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      • on June 19, 2016 at 3:38 am carlos danger

        Was watching Swan Lake yesterday.

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    • on June 17, 2016 at 9:27 pm plumpjack

      right on corvo. congrats!

      thought of you when i saw this story:

      http://www.breitbart.com/california/2016/06/17/donald-trump-supporter-pulls-gun-sign-vandals/

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      • on June 18, 2016 at 8:15 am itsme

        my vote for ‘shitlord of the week’.

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    • on June 17, 2016 at 9:35 pm jOHN MOSBY

      Glad to hear it, Corvo .
      Hope mother and child are doing dine and may God bless.

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    • on June 18, 2016 at 5:41 am oink

      good.
      i need suitors for my daughters

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    • on June 19, 2016 at 3:38 am carlos danger

      Congratulations! Justin weeps.

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  11. on June 17, 2016 at 10:35 pm Rum

    Living for several decades without experiencing any real need to worry about money ((can)) incubate good game qualities for some older guys — IF — it eventually manifests as ZFG. Or you just could learn to manifest ZFG.

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  12. on June 17, 2016 at 10:42 pm uh

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    A post shared by Kimmy (@liquid_universe) on Apr 23, 2016 at 5:28pm PDT

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    • on June 18, 2016 at 5:41 am Hackett To Bits

      Nooooo! My eyes, I’m blind!

      …Ok, whew, I recovered. We need something to counteract that.
      Here’s what a truly happy, fulfilled woman looks like:

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      • on June 18, 2016 at 8:28 am Captain Obvious

        “favim.com” ——— Registered out of Russia, with a P.O. box in Tortola, British Virgin Islands, and a cell phone number out of the Ukraine. I think we can all guess the sociological profile of the (((owners))) of that website.

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      • on June 19, 2016 at 3:36 am carlos danger

        Pregnancy and breast feeding release hormones that literally make women feel euphoric all the time. Pregnant women are seldom stressed if Basic needs are taken care of.

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    • on June 18, 2016 at 5:43 am oink

      what a waste.

      and chances are her mother is not a cold blooded murderer, either

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      • on June 18, 2016 at 5:46 am oink

        the log face, the wide forehead. breastfeeding a half-dozen kids would slim her down perfectly.

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      • on June 18, 2016 at 5:48 am oink

        top
        waste of great potential

        bottom
        doing more with less

        also: the “what’s your excuse” azn mom

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    • on June 18, 2016 at 7:59 am itsme

      that’s just sad. i bet if she lost all that blubber, she’d be at least a 7.

      in the meantime, man the harpoons.

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    • on June 18, 2016 at 3:57 pm mmaier2112

      Damn… if she dropped half her body weight, she’d probably be gorgeous.

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  13. on June 18, 2016 at 1:03 am jackronin

    Here to attest the Ch maxim ZFG does work “in da club”.

    It has worked for me on numerous occasions and I’m an ugly bastard with no money and nothing to offer a ho…..except an arrogant attitude that TAKES what he wants.

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    • on June 21, 2016 at 9:59 am Subway Masturbator

      Provocative!– What does “take what you want ” look like in action? I’m ready for tips.

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      • on June 21, 2016 at 2:59 pm jackronin

        Well for me it was grabbing random girls by the throat and play choking them, Making out with girls in front of their boyfriends. Grabbing girls out of groups and taking them to the dance floor, fingering, making out, more throat grabbing.

        One time I pulled this girls hair and said I’d rip every hair outta her head if she got smart with me. This girl fucking giggles.

        Throwing girls(or guys) out for random reasons just because I could.

        I was working at the time btw.

        I don’t recommend or encourage this behavior any more. In my other comment below I explain what allowed me to behave this way and I don’t want anyone to get the fuck beat of them or worse because of me.

        I’m older with nothing more to prove to myself regarding that so I don’t behave in such an over the top manner any more.

        As I’ve aged I’ve become more calm, resolute and sturdy than when I was younger.

        But then again having a funny story to tell my friends was always a huge motivation when it came to women.

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  14. on June 18, 2016 at 7:16 am wolfie65

    No matter how many times someone tries to tell me online that the sky is black and the grass is red, I can very plainly see for myself that in real life, they are not.
    If you want to tell each other fairy tales about how you game enables you to pick up 20-year old swimsuit models despite the fact that you’re 5’4, 62, ba1d, hunchbacked and drive a Hyundai, go right ahead.
    I don’t deny that what you call game (social skills, charm, whatever) has some value, but I think this blog seriously overstates and exaggerates its’ effects.
    Which is not in the spirit of the RealTalk we should be – and often are -engaging in.

    [CH: wolfie you are shitting up your comment with strawmen and false premises. check yourself.]

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    • on June 18, 2016 at 8:38 am Third Party

      Who’s talking about swimsuit models? You’re setting fire to a strawman.

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    • on June 18, 2016 at 9:27 am theasdgamer

      ZFG is only helpful if you are sexually engaging…you sexualize in some way.

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    • on June 18, 2016 at 9:29 am theasdgamer

      YaReally has posted tons of infield vids showing “fairy tales”. I guess you discount them because they aren’t your experience, lol.

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      • on June 20, 2016 at 8:27 am wolfie65

        NotReally ought to help out Mexico by getting his buddies together and posting a video that proves Mexico beat Chile and are now in the Copa America quarter finals.
        (Actual real life result : Mexico 0 Chile 7)

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      • on June 20, 2016 at 9:13 am theasdgamer

        Lessee…I should believe you just because…YaReally posts vids with other people in them from RSD…YaReally confirms my experience and my experience doesn’t confirm you…gosh, that’s such a hard choice, lol

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    • on June 18, 2016 at 11:21 am Benjamin

      Nobody is telling you these things; you are creating a straw man.
      But, if you don’t think improving charm and social skills can have a profound effect on your ability to pick up women, I don’t know what to tell you that you’ll listen to.
      Either you already see great success with women naturally and have never had to think about it, or you do poorly, and to protect your ego you tell yourself it has nothing to do with you and you simply are doing all you can with the cards you were dealt. I’d bet on the latter.

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    • on June 18, 2016 at 2:05 pm Full-Fledged Fiasco

      Serious question:

      Why are you here?

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    • on June 18, 2016 at 4:20 pm Hi, I'm a total faggot!

      Super top-notch commenter!!

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    • on June 20, 2016 at 9:20 am theasdgamer

      Girls ask me if I know people at the joint where I go if they are new…if they’d just observe, they’d see me talking to people…maybe shit-testing me, idk, don’t care…

      Poor old Wolfie is color blind, lol.

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    • on June 20, 2016 at 9:42 am theasdgamer

      If you have detriments such as you’re fat and decrepit (use a wheelchair) your game (social skills, convo, etc.) has to compensate or else you won’t get laid.

      Wolfie, are you really saying that game cannot compensate for detriments? Social skills can compensate for detriments, right?! And lack of social skills (confidence/charm/convo skills) can seriously cripple what ought to be advantages, including a handsome face/being buff/being tall?!

      I’m old and bald and a hottie checked with me after one dance to tell me that she was leaving (it was about 1 a.m.) and was probably hinting at a hookup. I flirted with her while we danced…not grinding, which isn’t really engaging, but putting her hand on my chest and leading with it…she tried to take it away twice and I just kept putting it back and she finally left it there and smiled…I looked down her top and she smiled…I’m sure I did some other shit, too, that I don’t remember. So this young hottie obviously found me disgusting because I’m old and bald and just stopped to check with me while she was leaving because Game can’t compensate for deficiencies. Of course, if you’re old, it helps to be able to move like you’re young. And my face isn’t 20 miles of bad road, I’ll grant you that. But there were lots of young, handsome men at this joint and this hottie chose them…oh, wait, she chose this old, bald fart. My looks were inferior to 50% of the men at this bar and it was a salsa joint and I’m not Hispanic, which is a detriment at a salsa joint.

      Girls don’t think like men. Men think heavily about looks and girls just don’t. Girls even tell men that being fat doesn’t matter so much. But men (who don’t understand girls) think that girls care about looks because they think that girls think like men. Girls care about looks for five seconds until a man shows status and superior social skills. Ringo Starr, Henry Kissinger, etc. don’t have looks and got laid plenty. Starr and Kissinger had status. Game shows status based on social skills.

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  15. on June 18, 2016 at 7:17 am Kate

    “Honey, could you please not swear while we’re at this children’s dance recital?”

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    • on June 18, 2016 at 9:29 am theasdgamer

      Hell no!

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    • on June 20, 2016 at 9:16 am theasdgamer

      I’ll try not to get drunk and go dance on the stage with the kids.

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  16. on June 18, 2016 at 8:27 am martin

    I disagree about how important money is to women. I have found that they definitely are more eager for men who make even slightly more than others. This sort of ties in with the social status point however. A lawyer still has a prestigious quality to his job. It is a field inundated with sjw’s at the moment, most of whom go to work for charities that actively seek to destroy ‘white male privilege’ which likely shrinks the economy and therefore does not justify the reasoning behind letting them become lawyers or get barred to be barristers in the first place but i digress. social status and income are mostly correlated, the most popular man at a party i think is sort of a myth. a lot of men and women meet each other outside of parties anyways.

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    • on June 18, 2016 at 11:59 am Captain Obvious

      > “how important money is to women” ——— Martin, money is an extraordinarily good means by which to separate the WH0RES from the chicks who actually have something to offer you. There will always be wh0res who will ditch you if something even slightly more wealthy comes waltzing into her life. Wh0res are only good for an@l. You want to be depositing your seed in the birth canal of a chick who is NOT a wh0re.

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      • on June 18, 2016 at 12:27 pm martin

        that is a good point. if a bit of money is enough to get her, then almost certainly someone else with a bit more of money can get her also.

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      • on June 18, 2016 at 12:41 pm Captain Obvious

        You wanna be dropping your seed in chicks you can TRUST. Not chicks whose L0ve is FOR SALE.

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    • on June 19, 2016 at 3:34 am carlos danger

      My wife can hold on to a twenty for three weeks and never think of spending it. Her love of Money is more for peace of mind.

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  17. on June 18, 2016 at 8:57 am Anonymous

    They still don’t get it.

    http://edition.cnn.com

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  18. on June 18, 2016 at 9:05 am Publius

    The idea that white people, who are an astronomically outnumbered minority on this planet, exist and have a right to exist, is not extreme, you evil faggot.

    We cannot accept all 6.8 billion brown people into Europe!!!! End white guilt, you faggots!! Refugees NOT welcome.

    http://www.cnn.com/2016/06/16/opinions/jo-cox-mp-attack-hellyer/index.html
    26 years. It’s happening. Still they don’t get it.

    YOU HAVE ATTACKED US FOR 100 YEARS, traitors.

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    • on June 18, 2016 at 4:40 pm Tam the Bam

      Relax. Without Dr Witey around to mmanufacture and give them free vitamin supplements, they’ll get sick and die of heart failure (or rickets, or S.A.D. suicide, or ..) unless they get real wite, real quick.
      20 year old paper, but still relevant.
      http://qjmed.oxfordjournals.org/content/qjmed/89/8/579.full.pdf
      Also require central heating pretty much year-round (or else microbial lung disease, and cold, cold, wet weather tips congested arterial systems critical unless you thin the blood, with vodka I guess). Shit, where’s all dem cracker plumbers gone ..?
      Europe is White for a reason. It’s not some sort of cosmic malfunction..

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    • on June 19, 2016 at 3:32 am carlos danger

      How many in Britain secretly cheer her killer?

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  19. on June 18, 2016 at 10:17 am itsjx

    Reblogged this on XWorkx.

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  20. on June 18, 2016 at 11:10 am Prof. Woland

    After you have left your parents house, it is harder to be ZFG if you don’t have money. Money gives you power, control, and freedom. It determines where and who you work for, how much of your time you can devote to other causes, and the amount of resources you can spend on enjoying yourself and not living in a shit hole. Having money is always better than not having it and anyone who tells you otherwise is pulling your leg.

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    • on June 18, 2016 at 11:27 am theasdgamer

      Prof, you can be ZFG as a pauper if you feel entitled to other people’s stuff.

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    • on June 19, 2016 at 6:48 pm jackronin

      Agreed but one can be ZFG without a lot of money.

      Anecdotally I have achieved this through training myself to beat other humans up for years and years. Competing professionally in mixed martial arts for about 5 yrs.

      When you know that you can kill 99% of the population with your bare hands it does make you feel superior.

      Don’t mistake that attitude for recklessness or instigating fights. Those kind of people end up dead in a ditch somewhere.

      I’ll not devalue the importance of money but just offer this as an addendum to your comment.

      I’ve never made much money and I live on the fringes of society as a minimalist. I’m intensely happier than many many people with lots of money and shit they don’t need.

      I correctly view women as beneath me and it shows when I talk to them.

      Seeing that I love a GREAT ass and waist to hip ratio, when I behold such a rabbit I must go in for the kill.

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  21. on June 18, 2016 at 12:30 pm Eat drink and be merry

    Any guy who can dance can pick up a woman younger than he is.

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    • on June 20, 2016 at 11:54 am theasdgamer

      Eat, dance, drink, and be merry

      He can if he has average social skills.

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  22. on June 18, 2016 at 1:14 pm Captain Obvious

    I Can’t Stop Bashing My Husband to Other Moms, and I’m Sorry ||| By (((Amy Klein))) ||| http://nymag.com/betamale/2016/06/i-cant-stop-bashing-my-husband-to-other-moms-and-im-sorry.html

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    • on June 18, 2016 at 8:25 pm Vagina dominator

      And these hubbies no doubt put the bitch’s food on the table. But it’s a great truth of life, people who won’t stand up for themselves get abused.

      In fact, I’d say that most people who get bashed are in some way even cooperating with the abuse, as can be seen in the following very instructive video.

      http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-12-03/police-release-security-vision-violent-attack-southport-mall/6999306

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      • on June 18, 2016 at 8:34 pm Vagina dominator

        Anyone who is interested in street fighting should study the above video very closely. The key terms are distance, line (i.e., angle of attack), and especially, aggression (the will to take opportunities).

        As you will see, the losers could have been the winners at many points in the incident. Even when it was potentially two on one, the loser could have easily won, as the bad guys made many mistakes. Check it out. Show it to a pal – two heads are better than one – and think about what the two sides did wrong at different times.

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      • on June 19, 2016 at 6:53 pm Belle Igerent

        This is an appropriate chance to ask you for your open slap hassan chop email, VD. These threads and posts move so fast, I can’t remember which ones you posted it on before. As a tie in to survival, do you really think the bank crash you predicted will cause trucks to cease delivery to shops? That would be a hark back to days long gone, such as the ’emergency’, where food was rationed during ww2. I’m thinking that it certainly wouldn’t be any harm to stock a room with tinned/jarred food, but I’ve been hearing about the ‘mother of all crashes’ for years.

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  23. on June 18, 2016 at 1:33 pm Haven M.

    this story about a dweeb who became a bro who lifts, does mma is also a heartwarming story about divorce and how the system looks out for dads. Just in time for fathers day.

    http://anabolicminds.com/articles/40-year-old-overweight-dad-becomes-shredded-mma-fighter-painful-divorce-22638/

    /sarc/

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  24. on June 18, 2016 at 2:41 pm DavidS

    I am nearly 40 and my last two girlfriends (over the last few years) have been 18 and 19 respectively. I work out, eat right, have taken steps to keep my hair, and focus on staying young in other ways (including low iron, etc). I also keep a young mental attitude, for example preferring today’s music over oldies. Nothing is worse than a loser older guy…

    However, an older guy who takes great care of himself + game = a hot commodity among younger women, who are largely unfulfilled in a sea of fat manboob video game addicts.

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    • on June 18, 2016 at 8:37 pm Vagina dominator

      Key decade coming up for you. Paleo, D3, quality sleep, and resistance training. You’ll be amazed when you have a better body and health than you did in your twenties.

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  25. on June 18, 2016 at 3:19 pm Dude

    Good God! Still with the “game doesn’t work” crap? First, “game” is not about picking up women. It’s applying evopsych to all aspects of life. It’s about applying the lessons of life that your great grandfather taught your grandfather. If you think it’s going to get you laid every time you go out to “da club,” you’re missing the point. If you think the point is merely to get laid, then, you’ve really missed the point.

    As for “da club,” are you shitting me? What year is this? Who actually thinks that’s the place to meet women? I’m not advocating going full Krauser, but for f’s sake, get out of clubs, bars, etc. if you want to meet women. How many times do you children need to be told this? Would somebody please link yareally’s archives for these clowns?

    For those of you who say ZFG has not been working for you, have you been sexualizing things? If you want it to be sexual, i.e., biochemical, then make it so. You’re the guy! It’s your job. (Life’s unfair? Jeesus, snowflake, welcome to the rodeo!) If you really think putting in effort makes you a dancing monkey, then join some MGTOW group, and let your seed fall upon the ground for all of eternity. You’ve been given the tools for God’s sake. Use them.

    Lastly, to repeat the obvious, go out and make mistakes Get shut down. Have normies mock your failure. They’re only doing so because they don’t have a pair. They truly have no idea what is possible; if you are actually concerned about something as trivial as outcomes, neither will you.

    Peace, love, and soul, my n****s!

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    • on June 18, 2016 at 9:39 pm Vagina dominator

      “Peace, love, and soul, my n****s!”

      Whigger talk? Do you know where you are? Have you lost your way from some cuck site?

      88 and out.

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      • on June 18, 2016 at 10:06 pm Rum

        Candy says… I have some votka.. cum over

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      • on June 19, 2016 at 2:04 pm Dude

        Ha! I was f***ing with you, homos! Lighten up, my cracka!

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  26. on June 19, 2016 at 7:42 pm Vagina dominator

    @ Belle Igerent

    1. If you email me at openhand01@mail.com then I will email you what I have written on the open hand hitting topic

    2. “do you really think the bank crash you predicted will cause trucks to cease delivery to shops?”

    Yes, if the banks go down, credit goes down and – because we have a credit-based society – everything else follows. Why would companies deliver if they aren’t going to get paid? How will they access their accounts? Why would insolvent banks disperse funds to depositors or customers, who don’t even have any standing as creditors? Who would deposit money with an insolvent bank? How would daily interbank settlement occur between insolvent banks? Credit cards would not work. Nor debit cards. And who would sell gas to a company that works for nothing? And so on.

    It is true that you have been hearing about the mother of all crashes since 2008. If you want to know why, and why the odds are so high that the next one could be uncontrollably huge, search for:

    Trade-Off. Financial System Supply-Chain Cross-Contagion: a study in global systemic collapse. There’s a pdf.

    But don’t read it right before bedtime. It may disturb your sleep.

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    • on June 21, 2016 at 10:20 am Subway Masturbator

      In the early 2000’s there was supposedly an “electricity shortage” in California. I correctly called bullshit.

      Did some generation or major powerline get destroyed? Did Sears or Best Buy suddenly sell four million air conditioners in a single day?

      OF course not, not in this case. This was manufactured by some slimeballs. And some computer flipping switches is not going to override all the trucks, farms, ships, and grocery store workers doing what they do every day.

      And the masters of the universe that run everything DON”T WANT chaos to happen. The kids are at Harvard, the yacht is at Martha’s Vineyard, and the smoking hot Vassar GFE is at the second apartment in Manhattan.

      I’m older than most of you, that’s the logic I used to keep myself from worrying about the Nuclear Crisis ( there never was a nuclear was between Russia and USA) and I was right. And this is even less likely .

      That doesn’t mean it’s not smart to store up a years worth of beans or whatever. But people have been money selling fear and doom since 1000, when many thought the world would end. It didn’t.

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