Via Shiv Maester chris, a study that puts hard numbers to women’s sexual (and thus romantic) worth.
This gives us data showing that late teens to early twenties women are twice the value of a 30 year old women, and the 30 year old woman is twice the value of a 40 year old woman.
Women who leave settling down till they have finished college and started a career/paid off college debts are screwing themselves over when it comes to capitalising on their attractiveness to secure a high value long term mate.
By examining what men are willing to pay for sex, Professor Sohn provides a new window onto this issue of fertility and attraction. Men do not have unrestrained choice in whom they marry or date, but they do get to choose whether or not to pay a prostitute for sex, and the amount they are willing to pay reveals something about what they most prefer. Economists call this “revealed preferences,” assuming that the amount we are willing to pay for any commodity gives a good index of how much we value it.
That is some stone cold id-vivisecting truth right there. Am I a sadist for pressing this news above the fold? Sure. But I am also a giver. A humanitarian, even, whose message, if heeded, will save the love lives of many, many post-America wayward women.
A 40-year-old woman is worth (sexually) half of a 30-year-old woman, who is worth half of a 20-year-old vixen. These incontestable facts about the nature of the sexual market matter, and matter in big ways, to women’s romantic fortunes.
PS Despite the age-related radical decrease in prostitute’s earnings, it is funny to note that a 40-year-old actual whore still makes more than an established 40-year-old corporate whore. Even bad sex is more valuable to men than a paper pushing HR schoolmarm.
PeePeeEss Big swinging stones to the first shivlord who sports a tee with that hourly earnings graphic above on it, and swaggers into daylight to hit on girls while wearing it.
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Tl;dr
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Don’t dismiss so cavalierly… he invariably makes a good point.
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jeez who would say
40 years old whore earns less than 20 years old whore???
This is some groundbreaking study I am tellin’ you
Thank you very very much Professor Sohn I could have died in ignorance thinking that the whore personality count for something’
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Period rape!
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Gustav Klimt, The Three Ages of Woman
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It would have been interesting to extend the graph out to where the lines intersect.
Assuming they ever do.
Hmmm……it takes a corporate woman to reach age 54 before she becomes as valuable as a 54 year old whore……
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“From birth to age eighteen a girl needs good parents. From eighteen to thirty-five she needs good looks. From thirty-five to fifty-five she needs a good personality. From fifty-five on she needs cash.”
― Sophie Tucker
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That old fag hag did let slip a few choice morsels of truth-bombs; naturally, it was before audiences consisting of gay men, who, in their bitchy cliques, are perhaps the biggest truth-purveyors this side of Heartiste (but theirs are always couched in sarcastic sing-song, natch).
Here’s another one from Ms. Tucker:
On noble poverty:
“Honey, I’ve tried rich, and I’ve tried poor, Trust me, honey, rich is better.”
Sophie Tucker rape!
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The 35-55 age group is failing that one real hard.
At no time are they bitchier and more combative.
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yeah, used to be that women knew they had to be sweet and nurturing their whole lives. especially as they aged. a good personality was a way to ensure a good life even as they got older.
men slow down too. we are less driven to go out and seek out new strange every week as we get older because we are motivated by more than just our dicks.
so many of us are more than happy to stay faithful to a woman if we can come home to a good meal and a cheerful loving girl who wants to fool around sometimes because she still likes us. that is more than enough to keep many of us happy.
sad that many men will never know what that’s like.
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@88
This comment should be the lead article in every magazine in the country targeting women….
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88’s pretty wise when he isn’t being a wise-ass
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[…] The Hard Sexual Market Value Of Women, By Age […]
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gottabee a way to hang in every HR office…
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OT — some advice s’il vous plaît.
My roommate’s a 26 year old beta with potential. Tall, handsome but out of shape (beer), goodnatured but too good, a carpenter and formerly a lumberjack. Kind of a computer nerd too. He’s fucked three women — one while drunk, one that cheated on him, and one in her 30s. Kid’s in bad shape with women.
So I was thinking I’d bring him out and show him how it’s done. What are some good posts from the archives to brush up on beginner’s routines, or can anyone tell me here? I’m so used to my own approach I’m not sure what to have him do. I was thinking just start with getting used to rejection à la Mystery but women are so crummy these days I don’t think that shit works anymore. Seems like it’s all text game.
He’s kinda psyched about this so I don’t want to let him down.
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reading over that, doesn’t sound like he has much potential in today’s marketplace, does it?
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Nah, he should be fine.
Have him read all the Chicks Dig Jerks and Beta of the Month etc. stories in the archives.
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not a reader. i guess i’ll be wasting my time, but he’s agreed to pay for all my drinks.
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> “not a reader.” ——— Read them to him. Over dinner or watching sports or whatevah.
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Fuck that. Show some agency or you don’t deserve to get laid. NO?
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Do you want to help the guy or not?
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If by ‘tall’ you mean at least 6’2, he SHOULD not have any problems whatsoever.
I’m guessing his mommy sabotaged him into a NiceGuyGentleman, thereby gelding his natural born attractiveness (6’2+) to women.
Tell him he’s got 2-4 years of shelf life left before he’s gonna have to have some serious moolah or become at least a well-known dj, or find himself tossed onto the dating dung heap.
Take him to bars, night clubs and have him approach women.
LOTS of women. Cute ones, duh.
10 or more rejections for every 1 ‘yes’ is normal, nights of 20, 30 or more rejections without a ‘yes’ also not unusual at all.
Anything better than 1-10 is absolutely stellar.
The fact that he’s got a beer gut isn’t helpful, but 6’2 ought to override it, it usually overrides pretty much everything.
Maybe even ‘computer nerd’, as long as he’s not too bad in that regard.
Do NOT take him to volleyball tournaments where the 6’4 guys are mocked with screams of “SHAWTY, Go Home!”
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That’s all obvious, but thanks for coming a little nearer the mark. Shows how far this blog has shifted from game, lol.
I’ll have him approach 10, as 20 is unrealistic for our podunk area. But yeah he’s 6’4″ with the manners of a 9 year old. Already fuckin regret agreeing to this.
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> “the manners of a 9 year old” ——— Then teach him “You smell like my Grandma” Game. Consult “The Young Alpha Male,” October 6, 2014, by CH.
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UH
http://yareallyarchive.com/2016/2/#comment-rationalmale-140381
See resources mentioned here
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6’4 with the manners of a 9-year old actually sounds really good, all a dude like that ought to have to do is leave the house and he’ll get laid like nobody’s business.
How exactly is he failing ?
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Sentient-
Perfect, YaReally is exactly what I needed. Thanks.
wolfie-
By manners of a 9 year old I mean slovenly, won’t pick up after himself, cook a solid meal, etc. But I guess none of it matters as far as getting laid with 4’s. (He’s only had 2-3’s).
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> “won’t… cook a solid meal” ——— You mean he only eats junk food?
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yea. last night: canned beans with hot dogs wrapped in flour tortillas, from the microwave.
i know this kind of fare isn’t off the menu for most proles, but goddamn, i actually feel bad for these theoretical women i’ll be trying to hook him up with.
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You should be commended for coming to the “rescue” of your friend. Game can be learned, but considering his in-born tendencies, the learning curve will be shallow. You can take him only so far. It’s his nature to be this way. Best wishes.
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Thanks man. I’ll report what happens.
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The slight increase in the prostitute’s earnings at the beginning is interesting. Very young/inexperienced prostitutes getting taken advantage of and not capitalizing on their full potential?
[CH: probably. it could also reflect fact that maximally fertile women are a little older than late teens.]
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They learn the game better. At first they’re all nervous and disgusted, and put minimal effort into it. Then after a few of them they get inured to the men on top of them and start getting into the money, which makes them put in the effort to look better and work harder.
It’s exactly the same as porn stars: their first few movies have them jittery and not made up well and “let’s just get this over with” written all over their faces. After a few rounds, they either quit or become glammed out.
Flesh trade rape!
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yeah, part of it is likely due to quality of lays you get from very young ones too.
fun to fantasize about them because they are hot. but in reality, most of them are like dead fish in the sack and the majority are not even orgasmic for another few years.
we didn’t mind banging our teen girlfriend’s when we were teens ourselves because we didn’t know what we were doing either.
that changes as you get more experience. if a girl is nothing more than a nice set of tits and ass, she’s not going to get repeat customers. men will go to other girls who know what they are doing and are enthusiastic because they are enjoying it too.
then there are the ones who instead of being cold fish, go in the other direction and try to fake sexual excitement and experience doing what they’ve learned by watching porn. that’s just as bad.
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“are enthusiastic because they are enjoying it too.”
correction: are enthusiastic because they get better at pretending they are enjoying it too.
it’s a job for these girls. don’t kid yourself into thinking they love it as much as they claim to.
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Yeah, the young ones don’t orgasm regularly. Women can take years to find a sweet spot that works for them.
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88-
great comment.
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@midnight toker:
exactly. I hate when guys are all red pill on chicks, but then swerve and say, “but I know how to make them cum” or “they actually really cum when guys do X.”
It’s like when guys believe that rappers are really hard gangbangers and such. You just have to realize it’s a work.
As the old saying goes:
Q: How do you make a woman cum?
A: Who cares?
Mad men them rape!
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@midnight toker
point taken. i’m clear that it’s a job for them. should have said…
because they act like they are enjoying it too.
that is a big part of the fun when you’re with any girl. always feels better when they are into it and into you.
i’ve never paid for it myself but imagine that men would want them to at least act like they don’t hate it when shelling out the big bucks.
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WF, either you give your woman her 0rgasms, or else YaReally will sneak around behind your back and do it for you. Your choice.
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@Captin Obvious:
If you ever believe a woman when she says she’s having an orgasm, you might as well believe her when she says she’s “never done something like this before” or “only had X number of partners.”
Be alpha, take what you need, and she’ll be happy, because that’s what she wants.
Don’t be a fool rape!
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WF, the 0rgasms which she surrenders to your mighty shiv of sh!tlordery bind her soul to you. They complete her. They make her whole. Without her 0’s, she isn’t fully a woman. Which – if she hasn’t been getting her 0’s – means that when YaReally comes around, whispering in her ear, she might just pay attention to him. SATISFY YOUR WOMAN, OR BE PREPARED TO SUFFER THE CONSEQUENCES.
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@Captain Obvious
lol. take the red pill son. wake up, mein child, to ALL the deceits of woman.
Get woke rape!
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I’m with CO on this one.
There are other ways to keep a girl ‘with you’ mentally but giving her orgasms is by far the easiest.
A woman’s orgasms are more powerful and more rare than a man’s so they live long in the memory.
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@Popcorn and Lazy:
lol. One question” how would you know if she came?
Answer: you wouldn’t.
You’re projecting your own male desire for sexual pleasure onto females. Classic mistake. Women are not the blond skank from Sex and the City. You’re the equivalent of a woman thinking men are looking for successful,career-minded women.
Stop projecting rape!
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Well, there are certainly physical signs and reactions that put the tell on a woman’s orgasm.
I doubt they can fake the muscle(?) spasms that occur within the vagina… and no, I’m not talking about Kegels.
And then there’s the super-nova rosy blush they get, predominantly on the upper chest.
And the sounds of course…if you’re attuned to your gal, you can pretty much sense the difference between her putting on the dog and the guttural grunts and moans of true bliss.
That said, there are indeed some women that cum easily, and some that seem to require more work than a healthy body should, if they cum at all.
I think it’s related to that same phenomenon that, if a gal REALLY likes you right from the start (“chemistry”, as it were), then you can pretty much do or say what you wish, be it alpha, beta, or whatever… and she’ll still be smitten.
That’s my experience… your mileage may vary.
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Jesus H Christ: How the he11 can you NOT know that your woman just 0rgasmed? WTF is wrong with you nerds? Just the thought of making l0ve with your woman and NOT concentrating all of your mental physical and emotional/spiritual faculties on inducing 0rgasms in her is mind-boggling. And you wonder why these poor lonely l0ve-starved beeyotches turn to the vibrating d!ldos in their bedside drawers…
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@Greg Eliot:
doubt they can fake the muscle(?) spasms that occur within the vagina… and no, ….And then there’s the super-nova rosy blush they get, predominantly on the upper chest…..And the sounds of course…if you’re attuned to your gal, you can pretty much sense the difference between her putting on the dog and the guttural grunts and moans of true bliss.
lol. all fakeable.If you buy their act, you’re being a mark. Don’t be a mark.
Do women cum? of course they do. But they do about10X more faking it than actual cumming, and you, as a man, will never know the difference.. In fact, Heartiste I believe once showed a study where it was shown that women fake orgasms more with alphas while have more orgasms with betas–but they’d still rather sleep with alphas.
It’s not about orgasms with women. We know this because despite all the feminist dogma, women still don’t masturbate nearly as much as men, and many don’t at all. Why? Because it’s not about the orgasm to women.
@Captain Obvious:
How the he11 can you NOT know that your woman just 0rgasmed?
lmao. oh, now we know this dude believes everything his woman says. “Honey, I’ve never done that before!”
Just the thought of making l0ve with your woman and NOT concentrating all of your mental physical and emotional/spiritual faculties on inducing 0rgasms in her is mind-boggling.
rofl. note the beta tells: he concentrates all his effort on making her cum. He puts his own pleasure beneath hers. All for an “orgasm” that is 90% of the time not real.
You’re being had, son. Take the red pill. Selfish male lovers get return visits. Selfless male lovers get forgotten.
And you wonder why these poor lonely l0ve-starved beeyotches turn to the vibrating d!ldos in their bedside drawers…
You really do believe everything you see on TV and in the movies, don’t you?
She’s manipulating you rape!
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moderation rape!
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@ WF
The signs vary slightly from woman to woman, but when your girl’s legs start spasming uncontrollably and she puts her own hand over her mouth so her sleeping cohabitants don’t hear her scream and she can’t speak a coherent sentence for the following 5 minutes… how can you NOT know she has orgasmed.
If you think a woman’s fake orgasms are the same as her real ones, you have never seen a real one.
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Hey, pussy’s pussy, man, fuck that. I don’t mind a “non-participant” so much, it means she’s more concerned about my sexual satisfaction than her own, and that’s great because so am I.
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You meet a great Girl who is good in the sack and you meet a great Girl who is good in the sack and can cook and has good values. Its like that with orgasms for them.
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Whorefinder:
“You’re projecting your own male desire for sexual pleasure onto females. Classic mistake. Women are not the blond skank from Sex and the City. You’re the equivalent of a woman thinking men are looking for successful,career-minded women.”
Bullseye. Guys are capable of engaging in the flawed outlook of projection too. Very well put, WF,
It’s NOT about the O’s for a woman. They’ll generally take a man they perceive as alpha who doesn’t make them come over a man they perceive as beta that does make them come every time.
Doing a woman for yourself, and not making the act about pleasing her, is part of Red Pill 101; just one more fact of life that I didn’t get when I was a young man.
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I would expect a cost to being too close to the jail bait divide for most men, reducing price as the risk increases. Plus the youngest prostitues might take a while to go from looking like a runaway stray to a professional pay for play.
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If she chases you after you f’ed her, u made her cum.
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no, if she chases you after you f’ed her, she perceives you as alpha enough.
women don’t pursue orgasms. Stop projecting male desires onto females.
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Good point WF, I just thought I made some cum…
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There is also another intriguing thing. At older age the free fall stop, the fall keeps on but slowly.
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There’s a mistruth floating around the web saying that a thigh gap (re: slender) indicates a looser vagina due to a wider pelvis. No thigh gap (re: fatties) indicates a tighter vagina due to the pelvis not being as wide. This is laughable. A wider pelvis indicates a woman is more suited for child birth, and has no bearing on the size or elasticity of the vagina (basic anatomy, anyone?). They’ll tell themselves anything to keep up the Doritos binges, huh?
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Which fat-grrll-empowerment site are you hanging out on?
Get away from the land whales rape!
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Mothers vs daughters. I have a middle-aged neighbor, not in bad shape, not bad for her age. But when she’s with her daughter, its striking. Women are getting what they deserve…
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3-way.
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There is an attractive 30yo in my office. Definitely would bang until I saw this ravishing 16-18yo girl at the pool this weekend. Can’t stop thinking about pool girl, even when 30yo is standing in front of asking how my weekend was.
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Why not both of them?
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that reminds me of a story:
I was at the pub last weekend. it was pretty quiet and this formerly hot older broad starts talking me, probably late 50s. missing a couple teeth, but nice face and body for her age.
I let her run her mouth for awhile, hoping to find out if she had a hot daughter she could hook me up with. as luck would have it, after a few minutes of chatting she asks me, “hey, you ever heard of a sportsman’s double?”
I said “no. tell me”.
She says, “well, it’s a mother-daughter threesome. are you interested?”
So I said, “Hell yeah!” Lucky day.
So after another drink we go back to her place, a shitty apartment a few blocks away. She opens to door and we go inside, and then yells up the stairs, “Hey Ma, you awake?!?”
Sportsman’s Double.
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.. sadly it works only in movies ..
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and ghettos…
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I’d always choose steak (18yo) over high-grade hamburger(30yo).
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Check her birth certificate…
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As a woke labor/employment attny, it’s funny to watch the prostitution career trajectory play out for jobs that are based on a person’s likeability, like brand promoters and marketing/sales in fields that cater to industries filled with mostly men, like oil and gas, engineering, etc. In these positions, the most effective females are big tittied blonde bombshells, and the best males are just charming, hardworking bros working their way up the corp. ladder. The over-40 yr old ladies get confused when the younger male upstart gets the promotion, even though she has been doing this job forever, though perhaps, not as effectively the past few years…but then, just like an old divorcee, they figure out they can seek cash and prizes with a discrimination claim.
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How do you translate “woke” from hebrew/yiddish into English?
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I’m kind of into MILF’s in their 30’s.
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If she´s still pretty milfy.
Sure.
Around 35 is pretty much the exact point they loose their shit from premenopausal panic-induced horniness.
NOT getting them knocked up is the challenge here.
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Yup 35 is the full extinction burst… heading to cray cray town at 40 unless kept under tight wrap.
ANY 35 YO woman on business travel is DTF…
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1+ on the traveling 30-sthg being dtf. find that shit at the hotel bar, you approach on principle.
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If you look at backpage ads, this is evident. Who paid some professor to research this???
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90% of women over 40 are not worth fucking. And that’s a charitable estimate.
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You can have it all ladies!
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A child molester and rape hoaxer talking to a rape denialist and murderer.
Why is this conversation not happening in prison?
The world is upside down rape!
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Don’t look at that .gif too long……….. “When you gaze long into the abyss, the abyss also gazes into you.”
Beyond Good & Evil rape!
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Last time I went groceries shopping I saw two Chechens idly strolling about, checking out the nice houses on the other side of the street.
I´m in the abyss gazing the fuck OUT.
Isis Blitzkrieg rape..
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Check spam plz.
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It’s earnings over the piece that count though.
Pros are only working when they’re on their backs (buns-up, whatever). Those cubicle cunts are more like public-sector leeches, 40 years of paid-every-month-for-doing-fuck-all, and hang your hat on a pension. Whereas the honest hoors are in the same boat as agency/contract workers, without the tax breaks.
Hope they have a decent tracker fund or offshore for the cash.
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Racialized people
lolzzzzzzzz
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FR…friend on seeking arrangement.
Average looking no game. On it for 1 month in 2013….got 2 leads. Now he gets 2 leads a day so whoring is now becoming mainstream.
Skim white girls are the gold carrot ranging between 5k and 10k a month.
Next come slim Asians and hispanics between 1k and 3k.
Blacks are negotiable lol.
The market never lies.
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The next economic bubble burst ought to knock those down to something more reasonable.
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It’s also a fun exercise to go on Backpage or wherever and look at the cost by race of the prostitute.
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Many black whores attempt (at first) to charge above white girl rates, in a vain attempt to use reverse psychology or “flip the script.” Some even go so far as to claim that they (the whore) are “queens” and “princesses” who are “classy” and “high end.”
It never works out lol. Nobody every buys it, and they ending up dropping their prices.
Bonus: most black whores do a worse job than non-blacks. The review sites are littered with negative reviews about how black prostitutes are slovenly, unkempt dead fish, and how the pictures never match up (usually they’re 30lbs+ IRL).
Many smarter black escorts then try to claim they aren’t black—-either “mixed” or “Latina” or “South Asian” or “Caribbean” or “Brazilian” or “French-Hatian.” Anything than admit they’re slaves.
“Mixed” is my favorite one. “Mixed with what, honey? Mud?”
3/5ths rape!
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That last line? That’s shiv rape right there.
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Stop imposing your white privleged views of beauty on women of color! You’ve already brainwashed their men into believing, “da huwhyte womenz is betta, now dey can’t find dem a gud man cuz all dem rich niggaz only wantz a whit womenz!”
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Also the Backpage pros many will not take black males.
Racists!
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Chicks now a days would just say, ” cool, I’ll make more money as I get older”.
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Hans on August 15, 2016 at 7:50 pm
Chechens are crazy muthaphukas. Alexander Solzynitsyn wrote about their crazee shite. Wild stuff. They used to beat the living tar out of each other to stay tough. And the shite they did in Chechnya. Wild. They let the Russians take the train station and then captured them. Their parents showed up to pay them to release their kids.
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Yeah. I know they´re pretty much the merc upper echelon.
The SS of IS.
The usual Ork snackbar-trash is just cannon fodder.
My peripheral vision was in overdrive, I can assure you.
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https://nkilsdonkgervais.wordpress.com/2016/08/10/research-finds-that-the-state-is-entirely-funded-by-male-taxpayers/
Under a Hillary Administration I’m guessing so many men will finally be driven to just say “fuck it” that we’ll see undreamed-of deficit monetization and the long-awaited dollar collapse, especially as the latest tech/housing/government bond/fuck knows what else bubbles start detonating.
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Jewish Fear and Loathing of Donald Trump
http://www.vdare.com/articles/jewish-fear-and-loathing-of-donald-trump-5-would-trumps-defeat-be-blamed-on-jews
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From (((Tablet)))
The Weimar Republic is often seen as merely a prelude to the Third Reich. But that reads back into the past Germany’s later history. The Republic certainly suffered numerous crises and had a fragile character. Amid the chaos, Germans experienced the most democratic order they had ever known; a vibrant, thriving culture; and social improvements like public housing and public health clinics, which often dispensed sex and birth control advice. Many spheres of life largely closed off to Jews, like the universities, opened up; women obtained greater educational and professional opportunities.
Weimar, in short, represented a great moment of democratic reform, cultural efflorescence, and sexual experimentation. It was everything that conservatives, traditional and radical, hated. The choice words they used in common for the Republic marked another step on the road of their accommodation
http://www.tabletmag.com/jewish-news-and-politics/207665/weimar-germany-and-donald-trump
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lolzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
Luegenpresse
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Just to make sure you did not miss this
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Amid the chaos, Germans experienced the most democratic order they had ever known; a vibrant, thriving culture; and social improvements like public housing and public health clinics, which often dispensed sex and birth control advice
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These are (((people))) with exceptionally high IQ as they advertise (((themselves)))
But just continue we as always encourage (((you))) to writing such more of this brilliant self-indictments
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*to write more of these brilliant self-indictments*
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Das ist des Deutschen Vaterland,
Wo Eide schwört der Druck der Hand,
Wo Treue hell vom Auge blitzt
Und Liebe warm im Herzen sitzt.
Das soll es sein! Das soll es sein!
Das, wackrer Deutscher, nenne dein!
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This one’s way better.
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In Weimar Germany, just like in Weimerica today, (((they))) were happier than pigs in shit. “What’s the problem fellas? This is just fucking dandy!” (((they))) say.
In that “cultural efflorescence” of (((theirs))) the only one worth a damn was non-jew Brecht by the way.
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An 18 year old makes 4 times the amount that a 40 year old makes. And if you took them both to dinner, the 40 year old would expect you to spend 4 times as much on the bill.
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Even at the far edge of the left part of the curve… no comparison.
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edit: right part!
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tfr?
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Young Cindy could stop a clock. Now her daughter looks just like her.
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The young picture of Crawford shows what real men mean by ‘curves.’ The contrast with her older pic shows the impossibility of hourglass maintenance – it’s not just the dress and photo that have angulated her, it’s age.
Hourglasses with upward class drive become bananas or boys-with-boobs; hourglasses who lack it, fill out.
“A garland briefer than a girl’s.”
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http://www.ebaumsworld.com/videos/how-the-world-map-looks-wildly-different/85105592/
Westerners have less land than they think they do. The Mercator projection could be misrepresenting and affecting the perceptions of Westerners of just how much room they have to share with foreign third world immigrants.
Africa already has more land than the USA, Europe and Australia combined, yet we need to share what little land we have in our nations with them?
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Yea, I always run into this false perception when talking population pressure with normies. “We have so much land!” … uninhabitable BLM land used for mining, military, etc. No matter how many times I encounter this, I’ll never get over the shock at how dense people are about it.
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ugh .. Ebaum is a cancersite, don´t go there.
I believe this is the vid it shows?
Yeah people, especially here, simply haven´t got a clue how truly enormous Africa really is.
And how badly these retarded Dindus and Orks are fucking up every damn day to starve in there or sink into abject poverty. Yet we have to allow these failures to flood in here to rape and suck us dry.
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That steep rise in earnings for non-prostitutes , between ages 18-25 – now, whatever might that be attributable to? I guess those high SMV (relatively speaking) career girls get *much* better at their jobs in those first eight years or so.
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Prostitution exacerbates the truth in your words. The effects of 20 years on the game does not render a woman pleasurable to my eyes. Know what I’m saying? There’s more than aging going on there.
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It’s your hindbrain sensing the onset of menopause in her.
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I take that back – reread it – you’re talking about the effect that The Darkness in her heart induces in her physical countenance. Same thing as the 1000 C0ck Stare. The immorality takes its toll.
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Looks like confirmation that the SMV peak for women is age 22.
[CH: yup. From the Chateau tomes: https://heartiste.wordpress.com/dating-market-value-test-for-women/
1. How old are you?
15 to 16 years old: +5 points
17 to 20 years old: +10 points
21 to 25 years old: +8 points
26 to 29 years old: +3 point
30 to 33 years old: 0 points
33 to 36 years old: -1 point
37 to 40 years old: -5 points
41 to 45 years old: -8 points
46 to 49 years old: -10 points
over 49: you’ve hit the wall. waysa?]
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13-14 years old: +100 points
PEDO BEAR RAPE
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This shows the huge correlation between female fertility and female sexual attractivness in the eyes of men. Its all set up by nature.
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I couldn’t find the link, but a few months ago I saw a graph charting the price of ISIS sex slaves by age. For the cost of one 20 year old, you could get three or four 40 year olds.
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I think women would be alarmed if they knew how much more attracted men are to 20 year olds than 30 year olds. 40 year olds might as well be a different species.
[CH: women know deep DEEP down that they are toast by age 40. this is why older single women slip into hysteria and anxiety so easily; they GET on some subconscious level that their time to reap quality men is all but up. but they suppress that wisdom under a tarp of feelgood platitudes because the alternative would be soul-killing.]
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Plus if they admit it, they lose all chance of tricking/coercing/persecuting a valuable man into going for them.
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eat, pray, deny.
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Haha. CH is exactly right.
For Western women, everything genuinely shitty and terrifying for them is magically transformed into something that “totally rocks” when they get to be 35+.
Huffpo et al. are great purveyors of these constant comforting lies. Hence, you’ll read almost daily, e.g. X Reasons Why …Being Single at 40, … a Single Mom at 40, …Childless at 40, …Divorced at 40, etc. etc. … TOTALLY ROCKS!!!!
Lolzzzz
Silly bitches.
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Heartiste, you have one of the most unique “voices” of any writer I’ve ever met — I remember someone wondering on the Internet if you were still you, to which I reply “hah! try imitating that!”
But in reply to your article ….
THE VALUE OF EMOTIONS IN MEN CHOOSING MATES
It is easy to knock women by saying their whole value is wrapped up in their looks. Heartiste does this (and I can accept him doing it, because I believe he is a practicing player) but so do a bunch of dudes being cool.
But the fact is, for most men, emotional connectivity to a woman matters a lot. That is why men use elaborate language to dismiss women, calling them “broads” in the Twenties, “bitches and hoes” in the Nineties and so on … But, frankly, men are hungering for an emotional connection, and let down their guard to let a woman in.
I admire Heartiste’s independence from a woman’s clutches, but it is impractical for the majority of (weak-willed) men to pretend not to be affected by a woman’s emotional button-pushing. As a little boy, he was conditioned by his mother to need almost maternal-like support from his future relationships, and because he is not strong, he falls prey to that programming.
But for Heartiste to pretend otherwise, that all men think and feel like him, is disingenuous.
[CH: i never said emotional connection doesn’t matter for men. that’s just silly. i probably did write at one point that emotional connection matters less for men than for women, especially where short-term flings are concerned.]
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” it is impractical for the majority of (weak-willed) men to pretend not to be affected ”
that sounds like the height of practicality to me. are you new? banking on your affection with a being who calculates social advantage before emotional fulfillment is a losing strategy. see the entire history of love poetry for proof.
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“…for most men, emotional connectivity to a woman matters a lot…”
yes IF we like what we see.
If we are not attracted to the woman, it does not matter if we have the best emotional connection in the world, if she is our spiritual twin our soul mate or whatever.
If when we look at her face we don’t feel like kissing her and when we look at her body we are not turned on, we don’t care what is in her heart and mind.
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Canadian Friend has it right… without the feel of that chemistry created by looks, all of the admiration in the world for her heart and mind isn’t going to raise the Jolly Roger.
Let me just qualify that by saying that said “looks” which leads to chemistry varies from man to man… some guys dig the glamour dolls, others the girl-next-door types.
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“data showing that late teens to early twenties women are twice the value of a 30 year old women, and the 30 year old woman is twice the value of a 40 year old woman.”
Shiv Maester got this slightly wrong. Just look at the graph. The value drops a little more than half between 22 and 40, not by 75%, roughly in line with fertility. The real reality blow would be to continue the graph down to zero between 40 and 50.
However, the study paints an overly optimistic picture of the mate market for older women for two reasons. First, it measures the value of a single sexual encounter and therefore it makes sense that it tracks closely with point fertility — the probability that a woman will become pregnant at some point in time. However, for a man looking for a bride, the sexual value is the sum of all future years of fertility which would make a 20 years old woman worth 50x as much a 40 year old.
Second, one would expect this study to overstate the value of old prostitutes because presumably only the most attractive stay at it till the age of 40 skewing the wrinkled tail. A more accurate study would be longitudinal, tracking the pay percentile of prostitutes as they age.
[CH: good clarification. I actually wrote about this in a post a while back…something about “residual reproductive value”.]
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[CH: good clarification. I actually wrote about this in a post a while back…something about “residual reproductive value”.]
Yes, exactly — residual reproductive value. Just to clarify, the 50x was hyperbole. Actually doing the math, a 20 year old woman has about 10x the residual reproductive value of a 40 year old.
An equivalent term would be “residual lifetime sexual market value” reflecting that men are still biologically driven to care about this metric even if their goal isn’t to have 17 children. Nature’s hook for getting men to reproduce is a desire for sex, not for children in the abstract. All else equal, a 20 yo woman is 2x as desirable as her 40 yo counterpart for a one-nighter but 10x more desirable as a wife.
BTW, CH, you’re really doing the Lord’s work by putting this undiluted reality on display. A lot of your advice is geared to men, especially young men but I think it’s even more important that caring fathers direct their DAUGHTERS to read CH. It used to be that mothers and grandmothers taught their daughters the way of the world, but this cancerous feminist ideology is so pervasive that fathers need to take this role on themselves lest their daughters end up like the tragic life wreckage that we see littered all around the cock-carousel.
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#haglivesmatter
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I disagree with 30yo women being half the value of 20yo vixen.
I would say 10-25%
The bias is : Women past 30, while staying in such occupation, are mostly “freelancers” or in the streets.
The million shiv question is : Would you hit 4 different sagging, used, depressed 30year olds or rather one fresh tight cheerful 20yo girl?
Decrease in SMV with age is brutally exponential
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The news is even worse than it appears for older women.
One should remember that price is a function of supply as well as demand. Since – I’m guessing here – the supply of young whores far exceeds that of older whores (things like motherhood, sobering up, dying, getting their shit together, etc. will take a proportion of younger whores out of the pool), this means that the *demand* for young whores is even more exaggerated than the price graph indicates.
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My first thought was Angie Dickerson in Police Woman. When the show premiered she was in her 40s. She was hotter than the younger babes. It seemed that every other episode, she was a decoy prostitute. She looked good enough to pull it off.If the 40 yos look like Angie Dickerson, I could understand how they could make good money at that age.
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